retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[lean ore]

also he was a cynic yes yes

[open verge]

Watched the cutscene ye he doesn’t

||could be Zenos is a ancient that wasn’t approached by emet to take back his role?||

Idk I’m trying to see why they did nothing with that plot point it’s gotta lead to something

[prime niche]

How the heck do I get to this aether current? @_@

[humble heron]

@prime niche go up right

Theres a bridge across

[prime niche]

ah...

I swear some of these zones make it as difficult as possible lol

[jade relic]

Man the new aiming tomestone gear looks so damn baller. I’ll be grinding for weeks for it

[plucky palm]

||Should this become a new race?||

||Meteions>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Male vieras||

[open verge]

[hollow ice]

we already have that ||its called the ixal||||get it cuz garuda||

[late aurora]

Kweh

[coarse meadow]

I wanted that to be a new race so badly

But then, you know, endwalker happened lol

[crystal arrow]

fem hrothgar probably gonna be the last "race"

[lean ore]

as it should.
rather we get major updates on the character creator and such afterwards

[crystal arrow]

we could get more tribes within existing races so

[lean ore]

thats fine /shrug

expanding the tribes wouldnt be bad

[hushed oar]

hd model updates hype

[simple fiber]

all master recipes learned, but it'll be just to make stuff on my own haha

nothing is selling anymore

[humble heron]

Eventually the market will stabilize a bit, i think

[simple fiber]

I'm not overly concerned. I like Omni crafting to be self sufficient rather than profit

[quick owl]

I feel like 80% of Garlemald's problems would be solved if instead of that old depressing tune, their radios played this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azdwsXLmrHE

[haughty crater]

they are later in the zone, its a weird zone

[keen osprey]

Technically there are still ||Ascians around yeah? Since we've only dealt with Zodiark, the unsundered, a couple of sundered. But there should've been plenty of their minions that are alive yeah?||

[humble heron]

Yes, but ||at this point no other ascians would be left that can really pose a threat to us. We were whooping lower level ascians from level 15, they mean nothing to us anymore||

[keen osprey]

I mean what will happen to them? We aren't going to just leave them to ||wallow in misery for all eternity?||

[humble heron]

At this point ||every remaining ascian is sundered and its very likely none remain that have memories of any of the convocation. Ascian is more of a religion than a genetic race anyway, so the remaining followers might just fuck off||

[keen osprey]

?? Didn't they ||give up their bodies so they can do that teleport thing? Also, they're immortal too yeah?||

[reef yacht]

||I think gaius already took care of most of the remaining ascians that could pose somewhat of a threat||

[wind bough]

||They should all have memories. And we have not been ganking red mask Ascians since level 15.||

||Gaius has two red masks on his belt, whatever that means.||

||There are 4-5 red-masked Ascians remaining unaccounted for.||

||Raised to convocation seats and given memories, but not unsundered like the big three. Equal to Fandaniel, or Mitron, Loghrif, Nabriales, Igeyorhm||

[humble heron]

Ah ok cool

[wind bough]

||The low level mooks we fight really early on are the black masks. They're just jobbers who spread chaos. Unknown whether they really know anything.||

||We kill a bunch en masse in the 60 SMN quest lol||

[humble heron]

||yeah, queuingway was talking about the minions specifically and that made me think of the jobbers||

[open verge]

After doing savage I can’t disagree with Zenos and the thrill of the hunt enough

No Zenos there is no thrill of battle wiping to the same in trap party after trap party🙂

[glossy hemlock]

Lmfao

[simple fiber]

what's the best way to get ice clusters in EW?

[granite nimbus]

Uh... well, there's ephemeral nodes where you can farm them directly at certain times in certain places after you get the corresponding folklore tomes.

[simple fiber]

I haven't found an ephemeral that's ice, hmmm

[granite nimbus]

@simple fiber https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Ice_Cluster

[simple fiber]

ah, so nothing in the current expansion

[granite nimbus]

Yeah.

Aetherial Reduction from farming certain ephemeral nodes also works.

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Lover's_Laurel

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Bog_Sage

Like this.

Higher collectability = more clusters.

[simple fiber]

I knew that, I just didn't know if any EW gave ice, and they don't

[sage atlas]

ngl the monstrorium gunblade actually looks kind of sick

[brazen trout]

the new treasure map is so cool :O you fly between platforms with these

[prime niche]

those are also the wings that drop

[brazen trout]

wait really?

[open verge]

Yes

[prime niche]

yeah, they're gold wings (archangel wings)

used to sell for a lot on the MB but the price crashed pretty quickly, lol

[late willow]

Oh ofc they're an accessories and not a mount

[prime niche]

I wish we got wings as a mount to fly around with

but something something spaghetti code

[dim sigil]

They got the animation for them flying and everything

[prime niche]

yeah, fixed angles and all that though, but I'd have no clue

[brazen trout]

i want the nier pod as mounts too

[prime niche]

we have the magitek death claw, why not pod?!

[late aurora]

Yoko didn’t pay enough

[glossy hemlock]

Get paid enough more likely

[severe field]

hoenstly

garlemald might be my favorite location in endwalker

[peak canyon]

Some parts remind me of Fallout 3

[open verge]

Garlemald is easily mg least favorite zone

[tidal mauve]

reminds me of my hometown neighborhood

[open verge]

But my favorite zone story

[tidal mauve]

almost 1:1 recreation

[keen osprey]

i'm upset they called Estinien a mercenary when they questioned his occupation.

You'd think they'd at least call him a free-lancer

[mint sail]

place the pun on the floor

[late aurora]

Freelancers have many skills

Estenien can’t even wash himself or not get scammed

[timber lichen]

do we know if names like "elpis" and "entelechy" are used in the jp dialogue or is the english localization team just a genius at picking words

[keen osprey]

They do. They're using the greek-inspired names fully.
Elpis = エルピス (E-ru-pi-su)
Entelechy = エンテレケイア (En-te-re-ke-i-a)

Here, ||Meteion|| says ||both Elpis and Entelechy|| in Japanese
https://youtu.be/4ZqSMdEJEkU?t=7250

[slate ridge]

I’m a bit confused on astrodyne for ast. Back then you fish for different seals for divination, but now what should you fish seals for? All three buffs?

[viral dew]

Finally made it...

on my alt.

[mystic tapir]

Spoilers ahead.

I haven't seen it even once, so i was wondering is ||Endsinger|| part of duty roulette?

[keen osprey]

||Trials||
I ran into it 4 times thus far

[prisma temple]

yes i think ive gotten it

[keen osprey]

They're more frequent at EW's launch, but it's slowed down since

[mystic tapir]

How are healers in Endwalker? I've heard people say white mage is in a bad spot (again).

I've also noticed a lot Sage's and Scholar's struggling with double pulls in dungeons and i've yet to see a single astrologian in any of the Endwalker dungeons.

[prisma temple]

whm is having issues with MP

sage and scholars are perfectly fine in dungeons

its more of people not knowing how to use them than them not being viable

most sage and scholars need to be much more liberal in their use of mitigation in dungeons as they do not have as many emergency or powerful heals as a whm

if you go into a dungeon as a sage and scholar and only spam your basic heal and shield you are going to have a bad time.

[stiff charm]

whm mp is fine stop spamming medica 2

[mystic tapir]

What about astrologian? Have i just not seen them or are there problems with it?

[untold gull]

i don't get why whm have issues with mp

[pulsar current]

all in savage prog rn lmao

[pulsar current]

compared to SHB whm, its a lot tougher to recover

meanwhile ast and sge have tons of ways of getting more MP

[obtuse trout]

Tbh

I do not think it has any mp issues

Just use thin air on raises and u already are saving a lot of mp

[placid sail]

WHM has so many heals that don't take MP

you have to liberally use Tetra, Afflatus, Assize, Bene, Thin Air and whatever that shield is called

[vernal haven]

Whm mathematical will require a bit more piety in speedkills compared to the rest but in prog where you use lillies and thin air is notable mana reduction it's good

Ultimately it's not as big a deal as people make it out to be but it isn't completely wrong either

[marsh osprey]

Its just annoying

It wasnt an issue before

Now it is

Whm wants to gcd heal even less because of it

[vernal haven]

My cohealer is still super eager to Res and I'm like no please this is the one way I can make thin air look good

[marsh osprey]

If you arent raising then thin air is pretty much useless

[vernal haven]

Thin air removes mana cost spikes but it's still gonna be rough once prog is over

[blazing edge]

Also Scholar probably has worse MP economy than WHM

[marsh osprey]

Nah

[vernal haven]

The maths has been done and nope

[marsh osprey]

New aetherflow kicks ass

Straight mp refund, no questions asked

I never ran out of mp on scholar before

Now im basically always full

[vernal haven]

Pretty much everyone can 0 piety outside of prog but whm needs some

[marsh osprey]

Sage can literally run 0 piety in prog

Its insane

Everything is free

[vernal haven]

Not the biggest deal but honestly at this point whm needs a mana tool that isn't thin air, both versions fucking blow

[marsh osprey]

Actually

Sage literally gets MP back from healing

So the more you heal the more mp you have

To heal even more

[vernal haven]

Yeah but

GCD

[marsh osprey]

I mean the answer to any question is kerachole

Tankbuster?

Kerachole

Raidwide? Kerachole

Party is low hp after a mechanic?

Kerachole

[gaunt star]

Hey guys I just realised this but did the scions ever find out we are ||Azem||? I don't think it was ever mentioned in their presence

[open verge]

Ye

Probably told them offscreen

[gaunt star]

Do they actually mention it? Or you're guessing?

[late aurora]

Does it really matter that much

[wet crown]

||"We" are not Azem. The WoL is 9/14 of Azem and their own person.||
The others know.

[late aurora]

||We’re us, not who we used to be - seto||

[gaunt star]

Technically we are considering we are a majority of him, even before the last calamity

Or well, before joining with Ardbert

[wet crown]

Sure, why not.

[pastel venture]

||Are you really Azem when you have no memory and been reborn several times though?||

[gaunt star]

Well, judging by what ascians believe yeah

All that's missing are memories

[late aurora]

Which they force on you

[gaunt star]

Ah well that's a different thing Altogether

[pastel venture]

||Idk, i think its up to player interpretation. You can be Azem if you want to rp as one, or not if you don't want to||

[wet crown]

Yeah, you're right
Why wouldn't we take that at face value
The tempered and their philosophical view on this must be correct

[late aurora]

You’re literally a different guy with different experiences

[gaunt star]

Varies how you look at it

Tho we aren't fully him until we fully merge so that's likely never to happen

[late aurora]

And we likely wouldn’t be even in that situation

[pastel venture]

||Again it boils down to a philosophical question of what makes you "you" so to speak. There is no clear answer, make your own||

[halcyon violet]

Well based on Fandaniel ||he does not consider himself Hermes even with his memories||

[open verge]

Ye

|| I think gaia is the same aswell||

[somber storm]

||Like we can acknowledge that we were the last Azem but we are still us||

[open verge]

Yea

||Everyone in the world is technically a sundered version of some other person but they are still them||

[open verge]

If zenos ||won would he kill himself again?||

[late aurora]

||He’d probably just die from exhaustion ||

[open verge]

True

||in his base form he’ll still have no way back from anywhere ||

||that’s why I don’t understand the avatar theories even if he gets consumed by the avatar would it do any dangerous voidsent stuff?||

||feel like it would just roam around ultima Thule doing nothing ||

[lone fiber]

well i yhink if we’re azem or not is up to player choice. think the devs made that intentionally vague on purpose.

in any case, we do have the echo

and that means we are a reborn ascian, but if that factors in our personality or not or if we’re really azem is up in the air

[late aurora]

No

[open verge]

Not an ascian

[granite nimbus]

I mean, it's not even vague that we're Azem's reincarnation at this point.

But we were never an Ascian.

[late aurora]

We’re a piece of what once was, there’s really isn’t any up in the air bits

[granite nimbus]

The Ascians are the worshippers of Zodiark who seek to restore him and return the world to how it was.

[open verge]

I do wonder

[granite nimbus]

The race of people who lived in Amaurot has only ever been referred to as the "ancients" or the "amaurotines".

[open verge]

Would azem have became an ascian ||if venat didn’t step in?||

[lone fiber]

ok

but you know what i meant

so theres no confusion here

[granite nimbus]

Considering that they balked at the idea of just letting a volcanic eruption happen when they could intervene, probably not?

[open verge]

Oh that’s true

[granite nimbus]

Since Azem explicitly refused to side with both the Zodiark and Hydaelyn camps.

[open verge]

All for some fkn grapes iirc

Emet selch is good with words tho

[granite nimbus]

Well, Emet's narration implies that the grapes are just an excuse and that they're doing it because they feel it's right.

[late aurora]

Being a foodie is etched in our soul

[granite nimbus]

Azem is apparently such a renegade that they've been censured repeatedly.

But they're also so weird that the grape excuse is wholly plausible and the rest of the Convocation buy it completely.

[open verge]

Yea I completely forgot azem was a pain in emet’s ass

||both of them||

[granite nimbus]

Like, Emet isn't even surprised that Azem is doing this. He just facepalms and furrows his brow.

Hythlo certainly doesn't help by enabling Azem's antics.

And Elidibus looks up to Azem enough to go behind the rest of the Convocation's back to help them.

[placid sail]

Azem seems to be considered as a bit of a necessary evil (or necessary good depending on how you look at it) by the rest of the Convocation, I guess?

someone who defies the normal norms and standards of the Convocation, but without whom the world would be worse off?

[open verge]

Good person that’s so unpredictable they’re a hassle to deal with

That’s how I interpret them

[granite nimbus]

Well, yes and no. The seat of Azem has been around for a while, but from what we can tell the final Azem is just weird by the ancients' standards.

[placid sail]

chaotic good

just like dark knights

[granite nimbus]

They're so incomprehensibly reckless and silly that ||the researchers at Elpis more or less shrug at 95% of your behavior by just calling yourself Azem's familiar.||

||Venat, their mentor, certainly encouraged them rather than trying to dissuade them, given that her response to learning about the volcano debacle is excitement and eagerness to know more rather than admonishing their recklessness and disregard for the Convocation's ruling.||

[placid sail]

||Azem: So you know how Lahabrea has been working on that "Ifrita" concept, right?
Venat: Go on.||

[obtuse trout]

[dull jolt]

Ngl but I missed the old lvl 90 NIN ability setup. Having the two lightning attacks in one action button felt more fun

[gaunt star]

i wonder now that we are done with hydaelyn/zodiark the next stories will be visiting the other reflections or learning more about the 12

[late aurora]

You do know what the alliance raid is about right?

[gaunt star]

I'm actually curious is that bunny outfit the race outfit?

Thought the skimpy outfit was npc only

[chilly bluff]

Yeah it’s their starting set

Males start with this

[open verge]

Yea but it was jank

Is ninja the new monk

Ninja jank?!

Is ninja jank a thing!?

[gaunt star]

Oh damn, it reminds me a lot of playboy

Meanwhile here I am as a highlander with a shit starter set

[gaunt star]

no

what is it

[chilly bluff]

The Twelve

[gaunt star]

lol

that answers that then

then i hope the next expansion we can visit more reflections

it was pretty heavily implied at the end of ew with what a few characters said

[untold gull]

'few'

One character lined it out for us

[gaunt star]

indeed

i really just wanna see graha reuinite with lyna

[lean ore]

thats probably not happening any time soon

[gaunt star]

ik

[lean ore]

rather see other reflections tbh

[gaunt star]

there’s no way they would let us go to the other reflections without letting us go to the first with the scions

assuming the scions can come to the other reflections

[lean ore]

Yshtola might be a plot point down the line, since shes researching that now

[gaunt star]

seems very likely

with the amount for foreshadowing in this game

[lean ore]

https://tenor.com/view/smirk-anime-anime-girl-smirk-zenith-evil-smirk-funny-smile-gif-20308316

[untold gull]

I mean, chances are master matoya wins her claim to antitower

Either they use that somehow or we do the crystal tower thing again

[gaunt star]

i hope not with the crystal tower

as much as i love ff3

it’s overused in ff14

[gaunt star]

is this the upcoming alliance raid?

[chilly bluff]

Yeah starts in 6.1 in late-March/early-April

[gaunt star]

oh shit im hype for more ||elpis|| themed content

i wonder what they will show next live letter for whats next

[chilly bluff]

6.1 preview part 1, most likely. General content overview

[gaunt star]

i meant where the story is leading

[chilly bluff]

Part 2 has trailer and details and normally comes a week or two before the patch hits

Oh lol

No idea but kind of excited to see

[gaunt star]

they said next live letter will show wheres its going

[gaunt star]

i really like how in tune with the game and the community the devs are

coming from destiny 2 and WoW it’s a whole different dev cycle

[lean ore]

Destiny 2s devs are more communicative than WoWs tbh

but they also dont like to listen until the damage is already done

[gaunt star]

destiny 2 devs are killing their own game

and they are not communicative at all

their community managers sit and complain about politics on twitter and then comment on one minor issue of the hundreds of issues

[lean ore]

well only they can kill their own game, since other games couldnt xd

they use their personal accounts so of course

what a surprise

[gaunt star]

only reason d2 isn’t dead is because all the casual dads

[feral mantle]

TBH Myths of the Realm could be really interesting given the potential Azem connection

[lean ore]

who knows, we will kill them all anyway

[gaunt star]

msq is just the WoL on a bloodthirst

[lean ore]

4 bosses per alliance raid, 3 24man raids

[gaunt star]

was reading up nero’s lore last nights and he was the “ only one” of the imperial big dogs that survived an encounter with the WoL 💀

[feral mantle]

I mean.

Gaius

[gaunt star]

hence the quotation marks

[lean ore]

nero chickened out tho

[feral mantle]

Though I'll admit Nero is one of the few actual Mooks rather than leaders that we don't just kill

[late aurora]

Is Zenos not an imperial big dog?

[lean ore]

he died

[gaunt star]

senos wasn’t part of gaius legion

[feral mantle]

We killed him

[lean ore]

also that

[feral mantle]

He just came back

[gaunt star]

i don’t remember what it’s called

the eorzea imperial dudes

[late aurora]

“Survived an encounter”

[lean ore]

he killed himself we didnt kill him the first time xd

[feral mantle]

XIVth legion

[gaunt star]

ty

[late aurora]

Zenos kicked our butt twice

[gaunt star]

surprised gaius is nowhere to be found in endwalker

[feral mantle]

I mean yeah but eventually he died we didn't

[gaunt star]

wonder if he will be around post msq

[feral mantle]

And then he came back with an obession for fighting us again

[lean ore]

gaius is early in endwalker

then a mention near the end

[feral mantle]

Depends if we focus much on the redevelopment of Garlemald

If so I can see him helping out the twins

[gaunt star]

can we talk about how zenos just casually became a paracausal being with zero explanation

[lean ore]

he didnt join us in the garlemald attack cause hes accused of killing varis

[gaunt star]

oh yeah

forgor

[lean ore]

he wanted to tho

[gaunt star]

i’d think he’d atleast be in sharlayan

[open verge]

He is ||but he’s declared traitor later on the expansion||

[gaunt star]

but no

[feral mantle]

He'll probably help in the repairs now that things are going on

[lean ore]

hes leading werlyt soo

but yeah at this point the garleans may know zenos killed varis

[feral mantle]

Sidenote

Does anyone else think having 2 anima's in the game is a hit odd

[late aurora]

No

[lean ore]

which was the first? 🤔

[late aurora]

There’s actually 3

[feral mantle]

The sentient soul in our HW relics is also named anima

[lean ore]

oh well

[late aurora]

1.0 anima (mechanic), HW anima, EW

[gaunt star]

couldn’t it technically be the same anima

[feral mantle]

No

[lean ore]

no

[gaunt star]

oh

[lean ore]

EW Anima is Varis

[feral mantle]

Because Varis wasn't dead when we made our weapon

[gaunt star]

this too

[feral mantle]

also our weapon isn't a primal

[late aurora]

!minion Wind-up anima

[lusty shadow]

Wind-up Anima

In old Garlean, the word “anima” means “soul,” though some philosophers have come to use it to refer to the hidden feminine side of men. Whether this explains why Anima's lower head appears feminine is debatable, but one thing is certain: no shins are safe from this mammet's fists of fury.

Obtained From

The Tower of Babil (Dungeon)

Minion Type

※ Movement: Obedient
※ Type: Poppet

Verminion

※ Cost: 15 | HP: 390
※ Attack: 55 | Speed: 1
※ Defense: 50

Oblivion (Cost: 30)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 30 and knocks back all enemies within range.

Minion Data Powered by https://ffxivcollect.com/

[lean ore]

resonance in stormblood

plus he was experimented on when he was a child apparently

[gaunt star]

is it because of his artificial echo?

[late aurora]

There’s some joke made about this part

[lean ore]

he was seeing dreams of Amaurot being final dayed since he was a kid

[feral mantle]

Yes, He uses it the same way the Ascians use body hopping

[late aurora]

Summon your wind-up Anima minion. Warning: cannot be used to teleport or upgrade weapons

[gaunt star]

i wonder if he gained the ability to swap bodies due to being possessed by the ascian while having the fake echo? or is that fandaniel allag tech

[lean ore]

thats something even the WoL could do tbh

[gaunt star]

as we did 😛

against our will

[lean ore]

we didnt, fandaniel used someone elses resesarch

research*

[gaunt star]

allag right?

or was it scientist dude from stormblood

[lean ore]

i think so? Aulus developed soul extraction

we beat him in ala mhigo dungeon

[gaunt star]

if only we knew of this in the first....

[lean ore]

also thats explained all in the msq

fandaniel says he took over his research

[gaunt star]

i remember fandaniel talking about taking the research but not who

[lean ore]

Aulus aka the second boss in Ala Mhigo

he uses soul extraction in the fight too

[late aurora]

“The soul rebels?!”

[lean ore]

i kinda farmed the dungeon recently, and its still such a dumb mechanic xD

[unreal delta]

||i love how the blessing of light has been this big massive thing for so long, we meet venat, "Oh it's just a warding spell against soul corruption"||

[unreal delta]

he swaps bodies before he dies though. Shinryu. thats just the power of his resonance

[gaunt star]

i mean, there are tons of people who dont have the blessing and are stronger

[open verge]

||Is that for tempering?||

[hollow ice]

yeah ||its the thing keeping us from being tempered||

[astral lodge]

Hello, does it affect how many chests appear in a savage raid if a person has cleared a fight? Or only if they got loot?

[hollow ice]

no

[late aurora]

Clears

You have the one chance for loot with Savages

[astral lodge]

Got it, thank you

[granite nimbus]

I mean, yeah. What are the Sharlayans gonna do? Force her to come back to the motherland? Teleport back over to deliver the missive to her in person? It's not like they're ever going to use the Antitower again.

[stiff pewter]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/S7tzKQ5QomEjCfOxBbv43jNT87X2hZA4M7_ztVidQE0/https/i.imgflip.com/60a57k.jpg

[glossy hemlock]

Arguably he’s part of the reason Varis is so fucked up lol

[open verge]

He also had a hand in making Zenos so fucked up

[glossy hemlock]

Did he?

I thought he died soon after Zenos was born or smth

[stiff pewter]

Most of the things fucked up with Garlemald were in some way Emet's deliberate doing

[glossy hemlock]

[indigo shale]

yeah emet selch couldnt even look after his own family, leading to varis being fucked up which resulted in zenos being fucked up (as well as the experimentations on zenos from emet and elidibus)

[indigo shale]

also zenos was 26 by the time emet as solus "died"

[glossy hemlock]

Ohh wild

[glossy hemlock]

I mean I think at first he was fine until his favourite son died then he was just like “oh right death exists I hate everything”

[indigo shale]

he werent fine, he still had built the empire to collapse regardless

its just that varis and zenos probably would have turned out a bit different but same end result anyway

[open verge]

^

[humble heron]

Im down for that

[glossy hemlock]

Adds prog is a trap it’s basically just fresh prog

[slate ridge]

||TIL kokkol dankkol is another ff4 reference because there was a dwarf named kokkol who helped cid make his sword but needs adamantite, and kokkol dankkol helps fourchenalt and the scions make the aetherburner for the ship but needs adamantite||

[slate ridge]

||TIL not only is thancred and yshtola's prayer pose during the final boss a reference to the arr trailer, but graha's pose is based on papalymo's||

[open verge]

Yep I noticed as soon as ||thancred did his didn’t know about papylymo||

[humble heron]

Final trial spoilers (also a shitpost) ||https://youtu.be/KeEmoIO-Iok||

[inner halo]

https://streamable.com/dyvz6e

When player pink aoe radius stacks with the stack marker...

[untold gull]

dat screenshot sound tho

[rustic halo]

L87 MSQ ||unlocked ktisis hyperborean. do I really have to do this thing as a trust? i don't trust trusts ever since i tried holminster with them, and yet both my NA and JP FC people says i ought to do it anyway||

[pastel venture]

||I mean, it's ur choice. Though I do want to mention the trusts are better than what they were at shadowbringers||

[rustic halo]

||good enough to w2w and sustain it if i'm dpsing, or w2w and use mitigations if i'm healing, or clean out w2w pulls if i'm tanking?||

i remember ||alisaie (or yshtola in avatar mode) not AOEing and i was like..."really? you're being beaten out by new DPS?"||

[pastel venture]

||I only played dps and they didn't w2w, so can't rly speak on that front. But at least the tank used proper mitigations and never wiped||

[wind bough]

Trusts don’t AoE. You can force them to w2w but it’s a bit janky to make them do it

But once they actually aggro the whole pack they’re usually fine

[dawn plume]

Theres nothing forcing you

You can do it normally

[sudden spruce]

Whats the title of the song that plays during ||ew credit cutscene with the ascians walking towards us||?

O wait nvm i forgot it depends

[pastel venture]

wait wat rly

wdym it depends?

[blazing edge]

it just personally feels cooler to do it with trusts

[sullen sky]

||having used trusts for ShB & EW, no, they have not improved.||

I'd rather have 3 skippers that don't know their button presses

[granite nimbus]

Really? I think Trusts work fine.

They're not the fastest, but they dodge mechanics pretty well.

||It's kind of funny seeing Hythlodaeus and Emet not even bother to run out of AOEs. They just teleport.||

[wet crown]

sometimes I'd rather do a dungeon with trusts than wait ~15 minutes in duty finder

[river hound]

wait really? in my run they just run out. only time they teleport is against the boss that hide under the snow

[sullen sky]

yes, they constantly die & are way too hardcoded (e.g. for stack markers they go to one specific point on the map, regardless of circumstances or anything else.
but #rants is like "no the trust running into aoes, dying & wiping the party cuz there's no healer alive is a player skill issue"

[granite nimbus]

I've never had a trust party member die.

Except in ||the Hydaelyn trial at Level 89||.

Unless you're playing healer, I guess.

[sullen sky]

on my run they all died to ||lightwaves|| so I had to solo the last 10%

not sure if I should spoiler but watch uri's lack of self-preservation lmao

[granite nimbus]

Ah. I didn't really use trusts in ShB.

I was mainly talking about EW.

[sullen sky]

same stuff happens in EW dungeons

they didn't adjust the ai at all

[next quarry]

I rarely use trust

Was thinking about leveling jobs and getting them up to 90 for the achievements

[sullen sky]

the achievo is the only thing keeping me at it QwQ

[blazing edge]

wow that's never happened to me in any of my trust runs

ive used trusts first time running through dungeons from ShB to EW

[rapid berry]

^ same

man i finished EW last night

[prime niche]

Do you need therapy like the rest of us?

<.<

[strange wing]

Yea, it takes a good week for EW feelings to subside

[rapid berry]

brooooo ong

[prime niche]

I torture myself by watching reaction videos and it still hits lol

[rapid berry]

||i cant hear close the distance without thinking of graha's sacrifice and then i just started bawling all over again||

[strange wing]

Yea, the final boss is reaction bait. I always look for it

[rapid berry]

FR THO

[prime niche]

||Yup, and it always plays in Ultima Thule now...I call it a feels trip whenever I go there||

[rapid berry]

was still crying hours after it ended

[rapid berry]

NOOOOO

||I KNEW AS SOON AS ESTINIEN POOFED WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN||

||and then when i got there i was like telling myself this is where graha goes but man he started his speech i got all teary and then WHEN THE CRYSTALIZATION HAPPENS I just bawled and had to pause||

[strange wing]

||Yea, I couldn't go into Ultima Thule without getting emotional for about a week.||

[rapid berry]

I still gotta finish mapping out the place too

[strange wing]

||Although like, the scions sacrificing themselves felt a bit lamer when Y'shtola was screaming DON'T WORRY YOU GOT THE ROCK POWER TO BRING US BACK IT'LL BE FINE.||

[humble heron]

I cried like the sad sack I am but i can go back just fine

[rapid berry]

yeahhhh ||I didn't cry too much for her but urianger.. man||

[strange wing]

||Y'shtola is the least developed scion, and it's weird. Since I met her in La Norcea she hasn't changed at all.||

[rapid berry]

I actually played so much yesterday I dreamt of ||the summoning circle when emet and hythlodaeus brought back the scions||

[strange wing]

||I'm not sure if it's bad writing, but it was a bit weird when Hydaelyn was talking about everyone's character growths and just sorta skipped Y'shtola. ||

[rapid berry]

ikr

[humble heron]

Also there are too many hot people this expac

[prime niche]

"Oh her? She can see aether and is cat waifu."

[strange wing]

"Uuuh, she's also a scientist I guess?"

[rapid berry]

||i went to sharlayan to find graha after everyone dispersed, i gotta find where the others are||

that final fight tho

[blazing edge]

||"guys you got a cat, nice"||
||"anyway graha, you're cool :)"||

[rapid berry]

||i kept fucking up my rotation on endsinger fight because i was crying so much|| lmaooo and then ||the zenos fight was a really nice end, ngl i cried for him a little bit||

has anyone checked if corianne says anything different once you finish EW?

was that her name?

wait miounne i was way off

[humble heron]

Actual mommy

[blazing edge]

yea all of the "newbie" reps from the three city states have something different to say i think

[crystal arrow]

temulun and cirina have things to say too

[barren terrace]

FU EW, now im ugly crying,..Tales of loss and fire and faith

[rapid berry]

you too?

we all need therapy

[barren terrace]

i havnt finished it yet, but the song just started paling now ive realise whats happening

playing*

||I turned game off when thancred dissapeard almost unistalled now Graha is gone||

[rapid berry]

oh man

for me it ||was when estinien went that i knew exactly what was gonna happen||

[rapid berry]

keep going though i promise it gets better

[barren terrace]

🤯😩 I dardent.

[rapid berry]

trust me it's gonna hurt a little bit more but it gets better

my cries of sorrow soon turned to cries of relief

[barren terrace]

Dinner time now, feelswalker!

[blazing edge]

five wipes in p2n im suffering

[fierce wing]

suffering

The true face of a lalafell

A creature of pure evil.

[next quarry]

Then the 1k dps dnc wins the mount

The face of pure anger

[blazing edge]

i really want to see that BLM's rotation

[brazen trout]

id want to say ice mage but they used a fire 4

[blazing edge]

mhm

i parsed blue

oh i see what the blm did wrong

didnt cast any despairs, T3 and enough Fire IVs

[wet crown]

[whole drum]

is there no follow up quest after completing all role quests just like from ShB?

[humble heron]

@whole drum not yet

But eventually

Iirc its 6.1 when that gets added

[whole drum]

OH right! i completely forgot they add things gradually through patches, thanks!

[humble heron]

Np

[barren terrace]

Man i could have the login screen music playing forever endwalker.

[wet crown]

is it confirmed to be 6.1?

was it 5.1 for ShB, too? I only remember the inn scene in 5.2

[stiff charm]

they said 6.x but ill check

[granite nimbus]

There is a follow up quest for the Studium Deliveries though.

[gusty quiver]

Double deaths tbh

-1million% damage for 90 seconds

And then some

[stiff charm]

(i have no idea when they added the followup it isnt mentioned in any patch notes ???)

oh shadow walk with me was added in 5.0

and the one after + void quests was 5.4

[dark olive]

wait, why is this channel marked as nsfw

sorry i'm new here lol

[stiff charm]

discord doesnt have a spoiler marking function for channels

[dark olive]

OH

LOL

big brain marking it as nfsw proxy for spoilers

[fluid basalt]

EW is nsfw

all these tears

[gusty quiver]

Ffxiv at work hahaha

"Why do you keep mashimg your E key so many times?"

"Havent you ever heard of Fire 4?"

[rapid berry]

more like nsfl?

[barren terrace]

im done totally broke! that lone walk with the music and Mofos hit is with Ardburt quote at the start. did me in!

[rapid berry]

keep goingggg you're almost at the happy cry

[barren terrace]

im in the waking sands 😛

they had to bring emet back for one last sass 😄

[rapid berry]

yesss

you got to the happy cry then :D

[barren terrace]

yea, i just need to get hold of the bloody music polayed on the solo walk and have it on repeat now

got it! Thank me later;)

[indigo shale]

yeah unfortunately

[barren terrace]

Aaah you want the one with the voices

[indigo shale]

its a horrible theme for a zone

[barren terrace]

I think is brilliant. Personally

[glossy hemlock]

I like the music when you get there

The current song is annoying

[dim sigil]

sorry i dont speak wrong

[indigo shale]

its a good song but not for a zone

[rich lark]

maybe if they took out the voices

[wind bough]

Tag spoilers in here

[hot idol]

any one got dc'd ???

[rapid berry]

oh my god thankyou

also guys

if you've finished EW, go talk to mother miounne :)

[vital topaz]

Wow this looks good

[dim sigil]

This is thancred

[short edge]

Yeh I use the behemoth set on my DRG. Such a good looking set!

[wind bough]

it's an ancient pvp gear recolour

[potent raft]

whoever made p3s tb a tether can suck it

[slate ridge]

||so when you meet hythlodaeus and emet, his comment when emet gives you aether is different depending on the race. i think for hyur, miqo, viera and au ra, hythlo says you got the size to match, roe you're too big, and lalas are too small. what about hrothgar and elezen?||

||does hythlo say elezens are too big? does he say that for male au ras?||

[wet escarp]

ne where i can find a active company? (edited)

[vernal haven]

In the bin

[simple fiber]

It's not a waste to equip crafted gear you make if you actually play the role right? 😄

Just some anxiety about the fact it's worth a couple million what I have on haha

[brazen trout]

[astral raven]

labyrinthos aether currents design is so bad

[astral raven]

for a nation prized themselves on wisdom the sharlayan sure are a bunch of stupid pricks

[fierce wing]

poggers

[brazen trout]

woaaah

what did you get?

[fierce wing]

Nothing :c

but royal luna and cloth dropped

[brazen trout]

thats the rainbow lunatender minion right?

[fierce wing]

no the gold one

[brazen trout]

ooh okay

[fierce wing]

i dont think there's a rainbow one yet

only exist as a A rank hunt mark

[barren terrace]

☺️

[fierce wing]

Noooooooo

i lowrolled

[rustic halo]

i am feeling the exhaustion of doing the EW MSQ

[wet crown]

then take a break

[rapid berry]

now i can sob quietly without loading the game

[eager field]

Lmao

[weary rampart]

p3s require ||2 melee 2 range or is it possible to mix them up?||

[untold gull]

dat bird meme is so accurate in more ways than one

[thin granite]

Fun fact: in the lv 89 dungeon, the name of the spell ||Haurchefant's memory|| casts to give you the buff is "Together Forever."

... i can't ... man, that's just too sweet

[fierce wing]

but that buff only lasts for like 30s

Also, run that dungeon as trust with ||estenien||

[thin granite]

Thancred has a lot to say, too!

Especially later on..

[fierce wing]

Nearly made me tear up. And I haven't cried in 9 years.

And I still continue that streak.

[thin granite]

Endwalker's got a way with waterworks, feel no shame if or when the day comes to put that counter back to zero. :D

[fierce wing]

Almost broke that streak during Endgame, and now Endwalker

[thin granite]

take care now, matchstick seller from across the rift.

[inland ermine]

Nah, I cried at the end of Endgame, he was my fav

[reef yacht]

no, you can mix them up easily
for dps comps it's generally 1 melee, 1 caster, 1 phys ranged and 1 more of ANY

[rustic halo]

i started EW one week late behind most of the people in my FCs and i took so many breaks after almost every duty - especially the absolutely disastrous runs i had of the L83 trial. most people in my FCs are already doing pandemonium (and even has cleared savages), yet here i am limping through the story

i'm already shit at so many things in this game, on top of being left behind on all those...i just want to get all this over with

[bronze brook]

rhaya's log : it has been over 50 runs of these EX fights and despite our efforts have neither seen hide nor hair of these fabled " mounts " while i know they exist , the crew is getting increasingly frustrated and grow more and more convinced we are chasing a lie . at this rate , i fear it is only a matter of time before they mutiny .
captain out .

[ornate oar]

only 50

https://tenor.com/view/goodfellas-wiseguys-funny-guy-gangster-hilarious-gif-19855283

[weary rampart]

good to know since im only good at caster

[blazing edge]

dead

[gaunt star]

[rough geyser]

MY TURN!

[thin granite]

He sleep

[obtuse trout]

He sleepy

[rare forum]

Me when i die

[red talon]

Question about the "Secret in the Box" sidequest: ||Do I need to do/have done other side quests to be able to interact with whoever has each of the keys?||

[calm rock]

No

[barren terrace]

Is it just me that keeps playing the solo walk over and over in my head, even after finishing EW lastnight I’ve been replaying it all day! Can’t sleep. I need therapy!🤣

[barren terrace]

I had it on repeat In the car. Such a good tune

[rapid berry]

BRO SAME

i literally will just go and walk the paths tbh

[barren terrace]

I want to reply the whole thing again. Maybe I’ll make a new toon just for that walk 🤣

[rapid berry]

EW newgame plus when

[rain onyx]

6.1 probably

So like March

[golden lion]

Where are the special FATEs in Endwalker? The ones that give the turn-in items

[open verge]

@rain onyx can we expect a feb ll?

[gaunt star]

There will most likely be a LL in Feb ye

[next quarry]

Area 6 and Thav

||Chi in Ultima Thule and Daiva in Thav||

[golden lion]

Thanks!

[fierce wing]

Man im burnt out

[open verge]

unsub amigo

[fierce wing]

From savage prog

i just wanna sit in limsa and watch cat girls dance

[humble heron]

Then do thay

[open verge]

yep same thing happened to me

[humble heron]

Reject statics

[open verge]

no im just pvping

pf was giving me anger issues and literal headaches i had to stop

[magic forge]

Is phy ranged job quest as good as Healer? just wanna ask ebfore i do it

[wind bough]

It’s good

I find healer the best

[gaunt star]

None of the role quests outside of healer make me feel like they needed me to be that job

The caster dps one didnt feel like they needed a caster

[granite nimbus]

Tank one kinda made sense.

Given that ||Gleipnir has a lethal poison that could kill you with a scratch, thus heavy armor makes sense.||

[next quarry]

Melee one mentioned your role once

[granite nimbus]

It was more fun than the tank one though.

[next quarry]

I enjoyed it

[gaunt star]

||Maiming would also work since they have some heavy armor||

They mention your role but it feels like any job could've done them

[granite nimbus]

One thing that does irk me is how generic the dialogue is.

I kind of expected to be greeted as a Serpent Captain.

Given that Gridania is my home state and all.

But nope, same dialogue for everyone.

[gaunt star]

Right

They call you commander in the melee one atleast

Once I think

[granite nimbus]

Well, that has less to do with your GC rank and more to do with how, ||you're volunteered to be the acting commander of the Company of Heroes in the absence of the OG commander.||

[gaunt star]

Give me commander rank

[fierce wing]

Give me Nanamo rank

I shall lead uldalalala to greater heights

All we need to do is have the people of uldah sell Classical Gear

and the numerous WoLs will make us rich

At that point both the royalist and syndicate will bow to me

[simple fiber]

I don't think I've been referred by my GC rank since Stormblood?

And that might have only been cause I'm Flames and Raubahn was sorta prevalent

[astral raven]

i thought we were going to garlemald to ||bring the fight to the telophoroi|| but for some reason it changes to ||help hapless garleans|| instead?

what

[gaunt star]

Just keep playing you'll see

[astral raven]

also i dont see how the garleans ||see themselves as victims||???

like what

[gaunt star]

The power of propaganda

[astral raven]

i live in a communist country

i know how propaganda works

nobody care what the american did 80 years ago

the garleans have been living in prosperity for almost 100 years

almost nobody that "suffered" is alive

in the current storyline

they have been expanding and subjucating other nations for almost half a century

[tropic frigate]

There were a lot of cutscenes before ew of fights going about in garlemald

[astral raven]

how do you have a victim mentality when your country is the strongest and largest empire in the world

what

[indigo shale]

because of emet selch

[astral raven]

reclaim ur homeland

yes

and they did

50 years ago

and then have been expanding ever since

[indigo shale]

emet as solus has basically been drilling into the garleans that the magic users are preparing a massive invasion and genocide against the garlean race, aswell as summoning gods to use against them

[tropic frigate]

I dont really remember but ||did cutscenes before ew show garleans fighting amongst themselves?||

[gaunt star]

Imagine how paranoid we would be if there was a race that was a walking nuclear bomb

Everyone else can use magic but them

[astral raven]

why is that not included in the msq

[simple fiber]

it was?

[gaunt star]

It was lol

[simple fiber]

Garleans tell you multiple times they were pushed to Garlemald because they didn't have any magic to defend themselves

It was just 100 years ago Solus "discovered" how to use Ceruleum and started off their industrial revolution

[astral raven]

theres no such cutscene

[simple fiber]

It was definitely a dialog somewhere in MSQ stuff. May not have been directly a cutscene, but you get told that

[astral raven]

you get told

the garlean cant use magic

they were driven out 800 years ago

[gaunt star]

You dont get a whole ass cutscene telling you all about it but you get a lot of small dialogues thoughout the msq from arr to shb

[astral raven]

i read through all of them

every single one

character dialogues outside of msq

you get told solus is afraid of the primals power

and make that the reason for garleans conquest

[simple fiber]

At worst it was Return to Ivalice that really discussed it, but given that was required for Bozja I don't fully treat it as obscure.

[astral raven]

thats not msq is it

[gaunt star]

And what about it, you just said you read dialogues outside of msq

[indigo shale]

well that makes no difference though

[gaunt star]

[astral raven]

cuz you said it was

lmao

[gaunt star]

Man go to sleep

[simple fiber]

I'm pretty sure MSQ convered it, Ivalice went into further depth

[astral raven]

sure, you cant even logic properly

[simple fiber]

Since Ivalice was the first time we really worked with a Garlean that wasn't Cid

[astral raven]

im assured you, msq doesnt cover it

we know the basic history of garleans

they cant use magic

was driven out of their homeland 800 years ago

emperor solus personal history

thats it

[simple fiber]

And those two aren't enough for you to understand WHY Garleans would be scared of magic?

[astral raven]

i didnt say i dont understand that

im saying why they have a victim mentality

well now i know i have to do ivalice to understand

[simple fiber]

Cause up until 100 years ago they lived in a frozen hell constantly being picked at the edges by other people.

[astral raven]

so ill go do that

[simple fiber]

Many Garleans grew up hearing stories from their grandparents probably

[indigo shale]

yeah even the mercenaries they hired betrayed them

like up until ascian intervention the garleans never had it good

[simple fiber]

Like context clues exist.

[astral raven]

i know that

80-100 years ago

solus made it better

but thats the thing

it was

100 years ago

[indigo shale]

fear and propaganda campaigns as relatively that werent long ago for the garleans

[simple fiber]

You realize how short 100 years is? Even the youngest adults likely heard many a tale from their grandparents

[indigo shale]

good for you

but this isnt real life, unless your country had ascians and tempering, summoning of "gods"

[astral raven]

yes and the primals/garleans empire isnt euphemism for nuclear weapons and the conquering empires japan had to deal with in ww2

exactly

isnt real life

anyway, thanks for answering my question

ill go do avalice after im done with ew msq i guess

[simple fiber]

I'm just a little confused that anyone could find something as recent as 100 years ago being a part of a nations psyche unusual. Heck, the USA is still dealing with drama from 150 years ago.

[untold gull]

may not be the best source, but wiki says it's roughly 60 years ago

[astral raven]

damn EW cutscene are so long

i like it

feels like im watching a really long movie

also to answer that question the nature of the drama is different now than it was 150 years ago was it

back then it was "slavery is bad or not"
now its "you cant use the n word"

[simple fiber]

Not really, lots of the same root causes, resentment and such.

[astral raven]

but i agree the underlying problem remains the same

such as it has been for thousands of years

[zealous sentinel]

ugh, trust exp gain in EW is so bad

[simple fiber]

They'll probably buff it later on like they did in ShB

[indigo shale]

wasnt it already buffed

[tropic frigate]

I thought so too

[indigo shale]

its like 3-4 runs per level gain

its really not bad

[simple fiber]

They buffed exp players get, but not trusts yet

[indigo shale]

yeah but its still 3-4 runs per trust level gain

[dim sigil]

imagine leveling trusts

cringe

[indigo shale]

if they buff it itll be worse

[simple fiber]

It's how ShB started and eventually got buffed to 1 run per level

[indigo shale]

eh only for the first 2 dungeons

in shb

then itd be about 2-3 per level

[simple fiber]

Not at the end at least

And it's absolutely a level per dungeon now.

[indigo shale]

nah

i know this because ive spent the past 2 days levelling trusts from Shb and it took more than 1 run on almost all dungeons

[simple fiber]

In ShB? Did you only do holminster?

[indigo shale]

i went along as the trusts levelled up, so started from the switch till i could do don mheg then the next, etc

[simple fiber]

Something is off there then cause from 75-80 my trusts dinged once per dungeon. After getting brought to 0 did it take two for the first level but after that it was one dungeon the rest of the way

[indigo shale]

idk, trust exp is weird

[simple fiber]

Or you were grinding a dungeon well below their level

[wind bough]

spoiler tag all of that

[vital topaz]

Oh ok

[indigo shale]

by just hit, how far are you in

[wind bough]

untagged spoils only go in #916247709462200390

[vital topaz]

Am I seeing things or is there a reason why the text is like this?

[vital topaz]

I was not aware, thank you

[reef yacht]

they do some wacky stuff with the quest names later this expac, dont worry about it

[vital topaz]

But I'm in the final area

[reef yacht]

yeah?

[vital topaz]

Are you telling me that ||Ultima Thule ||is wacky?

[reef yacht]

yes

[vital topaz]

It kinda looks boring rn

||just an empty waste||

[river hound]

bgm is boring too

[vital topaz]

I'd say more....depressing

[pulsar current]

its almost as if theres a reason

[vital topaz]

wait a minute

I hear instruments that I wasnt hearing before

[pulsar current]

:))))))

[chilly bluff]

Keep going

[vital topaz]

I'd love to, but its 2:15 AM

[astral raven]

i hate these follow missions so much

who thought this was a good idea

[blazing edge]

i did

i implemented them

[astral raven]

oh boy

this mission in map 3

good idea

but its so bad

i hope they never do it again

EW story so far is good but the quests and duty are so bad

[indigo shale]

||in from the cold?||

[astral raven]

yes

[indigo shale]

so it achieved what it set out to do

[astral raven]

its a cool idea

but that was the single worst duty ive seen in game

[indigo shale]

nah, its the perfect solo duty, it achieves what it is meant to

[astral raven]

yes, it achieved what it set out to do, getting patched immediately after release

[indigo shale]

only the easier difficulties of it got patched

[astral raven]

but it did get patch

[indigo shale]

yeah so

[wind bough]

It’s a cool duty

[astral raven]

it is

cool idea

shit gameplay

[indigo shale]

its the second best solo duty in the game, after the bozja incident

nah the gameplay is fine, if they change it to much then they ruin the whole duty

[astral raven]

if it was fine they wouldnt have to patch it

its one of those

like the bismarch fight

cool idea

shit implementation

[indigo shale]

the implementation is fine, SE cant help if players are bad

like youll never see the changes to the solo duty unless you fail it

[astral raven]

problem is its not even hard
just tedious

[indigo shale]

yes thats what it sets out to do

[tropic frigate]

If its patched only for lower difficulties doesnt that mean technically fine by normal difficulty?

[indigo shale]

||in from the cold is meant to be this annoying tedious thing arranged by zenos and fandaniel||

[tropic frigate]

Lower is probably for people who have trouble playing the game

[astral raven]

im still doing it so im not gonna click on that

[tropic frigate]

Which i guess is why it was made easier

[astral raven]

just finished the scenario section

i still have the cutscene to go through

[wind bough]

I found the gameplay pretty fun

Very happy with that duty

Glad they implemented the nerf like they did

I.e. not changing the default difficulty version

[tropic frigate]

Gameplay isnt very gameplay to me

[astral raven]

yeah more options is good

[tropic frigate]

Its more like its being story

Than gameplay

1 button

[astral raven]

giving player choice is important

[tropic frigate]

A cd

[wind bough]

Yeah it really made me feel the situation

[tropic frigate]

A heal like most solo instances

As npcs

[indigo shale]

||we probably wont get anymore solo instances like that unfortunately anyway, as i doubt we'll be getting body swapped again any time soon||

[astral raven]

im really liking the character developments in EW so far

the story telling in game is probably the best out of any rpg ive played

[lean ore]

in from cold was the second best solo duty

[astral raven]

but the quests in EW is just annoying

[lean ore]

|| unless we body swap ourselves :v ||

[astral raven]

im literally falling asleep while doing them

[lean ore]

ok sleep

[indigo shale]

eh the quests in EW are no different really to all the others

[astral raven]

remind me of ARR quests

[indigo shale]

run here, talk to this person, run here kill this, run here fetch this, now with an occasional follow mission to add something new to the questing experience for once

[tropic frigate]

If follow quests was more voiced

And actual much bigger plot developements i might had liked it

But its kinda resulting in the same get to the end type thing except you have a chance to fail

[astral raven]

ngl doing quests in EW makes me just want to skip everything run to the inn once in a while to enjoy the story without all the tedious steps in between

[indigo shale]

youll miss like 50% of the dialogue doing that

[astral raven]

i know

theres a lot of dialogues from npc when you are done with a quest

you can talk to them

i always do that

its the only reason im not skipping everything and just watch it in an inn

[lean ore]

https://tenor.com/view/soken-fan-fest-lahee-otamatone-hum-gif-21581907

[indigo shale]

the thing is skipping everything doesnt change a single thing

because the "tedius" stuff you still have to do

[astral raven]

yeah but i can do them all at once and then enjoy the story all at once

if that makes sense

[indigo shale]

no

that sounds like the worst way to enjoy the ffxiv story

itll be super disjointed and non sensical

[astral raven]

did you try it
i havent done it so idk how that would be like

but im really tempted to

cuz the story in EW is so good

[trim linden]

Acedia: be warned, not every quest is in the Inn. Some, NOT ALL

[astral raven]

and these quests are just hammering my enjoyment

[indigo shale]

its the same questing pretty much as shb and sb

just every so often a new quest type

which by that point there has been 3 quests that arent generic

[rustic halo]

...how close am i to the end of endwalker if i'm at the L89 dungeon now?

because honestly, by this point i'm filled with dread and fear every time i click through the msq. i'm scared of the many, many possible ways things can - and most likely will - go wrong during the duties, and i've had my fill of people screaming at me during the L83 trial

[tropic frigate]

O damn

They actually are thinking of dropping the npc pursuing

Based

Or they just mean the aether current one

Either way im glad they know

[wind bough]

If running duties first time with other players makes you anxious I recommend taking trusts

But you are getting to the end

[dawn plume]

wait what thats sad those are great

were did they say that ?

[tropic frigate]

In the radio stream i believe happening rn which is getting translated

[open verge]

Please do

[tropic frigate]

Likely its the aether current one

Rather than conpletely

[open verge]

The Garlemald?

That one was a pain in the ass

[tropic frigate]

But they've acknowledged they overdid it in general

[open verge]

Still a win

[tropic frigate]

Yes

[open verge]

That one actually sucks I failed it like 3 times

It’s mad long and unclear where the game wants you to hide at

[tropic frigate]

I mainly just hate it cuz it adds nothing interesting

Its like an overextended waste of walking to quest a to point b

[indigo shale]

its just a better version of waiting at a destination 5 times mission

[tropic frigate]

With them totally not noticing that ur hiding

And then they have the same floaty text

[pulsar current]

that but you have a 50% to fail every wait

[indigo shale]

you only fail if you dont hide behind the very big object

[open verge]

||・ハイデリン討滅戦のフェイス対応はバトル班
The themes for each segment in Endwalker is thus - Beginning of Endwalker reflects the theme of ARR, Thavnir segment reflects Heavensward, Garlemald reflects Stormblood, while Elpis reflects Shadowbringers.||

[tropic frigate]

Its bad in general cuz it ruins the flow if u fail

[open verge]

This makes so much sense

Omg I can totally see it now

[tropic frigate]

Aint mean jack shit a break from the regular questing

[open verge]

That’s fuckingbawesome bro I love endwalker

[tropic frigate]

Cuz it just becomes worse if the npc notices you

[indigo shale]

maybe they could just change it so instead of failing the mission if you get spotted a mob spawns that you have to kill before it advances on, so no running back to the beginning

[tropic frigate]

I was thinking something like that for things like garlean segments and stuff

Thancred in a way almost

With his instance

Was kinda a good way it could be

[indigo shale]

then it essentially just becomes a different style of those "wait at destination" quests

[open verge]

Does this mean more monk buffs

Haha jk probably ninja buffs

Yoshi p admitting they got the samurai changes mixed up but they couldn’t make it in time for potency changes is dope

Good communication

From the way they talk about 6.08 it seems to be pretty chunky

[sullen sky]

I hope they also look at stuff pre 90.
BLM having to deal w/ rng proccing fire & thunder at 50, and even w/ 4 fire procs in a row not even reaching RPR dps that just does 1-2-3 will definitely paint the wrong image for new people for the classes later.

"it gets better later" is the worst argument for keeping things trash early on

[wet crown]

why play a class, when you can play a job

[sullen sky]

ye but if the class doesn't feel good you won't even get to the job

[astral raven]

good to know

[rustic halo]

MSQ L89 massive spoilers
||"I am Infinity. The Supreme Being. The embodiment of law and order...Praise my name! Witness, bathed in the glory of my countenance! Praise my name!"||

[river hound]

anyone good at remembering and recognising voices? ||Endwalker MSQ last part where you walk up to the end, i only manage to recognise Haurchefant and the Eorzean leaders. who else was talking?||

[cloud roost]

||https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/rdd7cm/spoilers_60_voices_from_the_past/||

[river hound]

thaks

[open verge]

The msq took so much resources it’s the reason why their is a lack of “battle content music”

Guessing this can be seen in pandemonium

Music choices in the msq were 👌

[cloud roost]

hopefully it gets better for 6.2!

was indeed quite disappointed by p1-p3 music

[open verge]

I was disappointed in all of them

P1-3 because it’s all the same and P4S because theirs no new song after the phase transition

[rustic halo]

...well

i have little else to say.

wiped 4 times to L89 MSQ ||hydaelyn|| and voted abandoned on the start of the 5th attempt

i don't deserve to play indeed

i'm an imbecile

[cloud roost]

well, you didn't wipe, your party wiped

[rustic halo]

can't even do one damned thing right, and yet everyone around me in my FCs and LSs are all already farming extremes and even clearing pandemonium savages

maybe what those people said when i first had to abandon my first L83 ||zodiark|| attempt was right, i should uninstall

[humble heron]

@rustic halo cheer up! Its not a responsibility or a requirement for you to do difficult content

You should just play the game and have fun

And tell anyone who says otherwise to shove off

[rustic halo]

i'm...just lost. i don't know what i should do now

[fluid basalt]

i just don't bother with anything beyond MSQ. the gear grind never ends

[humble heron]

You could just use trusts for the trial

[lean ore]

yeah do it with trusts and follow Y'shtola since she can predict aetheric moves

[granite nimbus]

But... ||Hydaelyn is like, the polar opposite of YMMV. She believes in humanity and does not want to control them. The whole reason for the Sundering is said belief that the sundered people would be able to achieve what the ancients hiding behind Zodiark could not.||

[rustic halo]

||when i posted i made a tongue-in-cheek quotation from YHVH (of the shin megami tensei series), since they're both the primary god of their respective worlds. it was nothing serious||

[granite nimbus]

Sorry, didn't mean to sound offended. I was just really confused and didn't realize you were being facetious.

[hollow ice]

yeah ||she doesnt strike me as the bald floating heads type||

[gaunt star]

I'm curious why she didn't go to the ||Current Azem at the time considering how daring he/she always was with saving ppl. I do get that the Ancients were a bit brittle judging by how fast they were willing to sacrifice half of their ppl to restore peace but who knows if Meteion's song probably would reach anywhere they went with the moon. And in the end she relied on Azem's main soul shard to end the song||

Not that ||Azem would be a guaranteed victory either way I bet||

[fringe grotto]

|| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeEmoIO-Iok ||

[wet crown]

an unmarked spoiler

[brazen trout]

poggers

[humble heron]

Plz mark ur spoilers