how long until maintenance, does anyone know?
#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
jade relic
chilly bluff
One hour and thirteen minutes
jade relic
for 8 hours?
chilly bluff
Nah, five hours.
jade relic
ah, thats not too bad then. can play a bit after
stone grail
Any idea of the co tent of 6.05
humble heron
@stone grail savage, crafted gear, capped tomestones and capped tomestone gear, map dungeon
open verge
just finished my normal modes haha
opaque hemlock
please for the love of god do something about DRK š
humble heron
Or only raid
Just for raids. I dont think we get a new dungeon until 6.2 if shb is anything to go by
open verge
6.1
every major patch there is a new dungeon
but there is only gonna be 1 dungeon every patch
humble heron
Oh, really?
open verge
yep
gaunt star
Map.dungeon is technically a new dungeon
open verge
not at all lol
gaunt star
It's got corridors.and trash.and a boss at the end
open verge
yea but you will never see it because you will always get kicked out first floor š
gaunt star
That's why I always say it's harder to clear than ultimate xd
I'm also wondering if they sneak the crafted susano weapons we still missing
I'm kinda curious what the savage mount will be though
open verge
boss 3
gaunt star
Emeth selch mount maybe xd
gaunt star
I wonder if they make p4s have a phase where boss transforms into a giant bat
open verge
i wonder if he gets another theme
livid veldt
tryna get ||the final day|| done right before maintenance but idk if my queue will manage lmfao
tranquil igloo
I'm kinda curious what the savage mount will be though
my bets on phoinix tbh, though hippokampos would be interesting
manic flower
maybe a bat from 4
dim sigil
Wasnt savage mount alreadly revealed
keen osprey
why was the min/btn quest so good
Haha, this part especially killed me
open verge
Got me too :
haughty crater
where the notes
can someone DM me the notes
can someone call my phone when the notes are posted
can someone inject the patch notes into my spine
stone grail
So will the new crafted gear be better than the 580
half phoenix
No?
Just alternative stats
like for example raid chest could be crit sps/sks, while crafted could be dh det
maybe techincally better before over overmelding
stone grail
But crafted can be pentamelded
chilly bluff
The difference is minor. Weekly tome and savage gear will be better in the end anyway.
jade relic
will there be new gear for crafters and gatherers as well? Ill be sad if so, I just spent like 3 days overmelding my shit
chilly bluff
Not for a while. 6.1 if I remember correctly? Mostly left hand stuff and tools.
tidal mauve
haughty crater
So will the new crafted gear be better than the 580
my math has a full pentamelded set at around 5% dps more than a full 580 set
Its all estimated tho, cant say for sure since we dont know what the gear "exactly" is
stone grail
mmmm
haughty crater
Obviously the biggest gain will be from filling your 570 slots with 580 for the immediate mainstat boost
jade relic
stone grail
if i only understood japanese
haughty crater
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/674bcc0a4da4caba1ded710a7...
nice
stone grail
by the way any idea in how much time maint endds?
proper zealot
Anyway, what's the level of strength of Derplander among Final Fantasy protagonists?
There's been a discussion about this in a group chat and said that Derplander is only weaker than Lightning from XIII||Derplander's level of strength is being able to roll another 7 people for a gang fight||
||It could be more than 7, might even be 23||
||Might even be 47||
||Anything with a health bar shall die, is it?||
||Might even be 55||
haughty crater
by the way any idea in how much time maint endds?
4.5hr(?) and square is usually on time in my experience
sometimes early
stone grail
master recipes sounds interesting
proper zealot
I still find it hilarious that we ||rode Zenos with a summoning circle on top of them while chasing a flying head into space||
stone grail
4.5hr(?) and square is usually on time in my experience
could be worst could be like wow when there was a weekly maintance
haughty crater
" (Two or more of the same job is not permitted) " wow rude
late aurora
The finishes on dancer are now weapon skills
Other than more saber dance, what exactly does that mean for me
winged granite
where is the patch note im dying
dusk heron
Am i the only one not able to access the patch notes? š
livid veldt
I still find it hilarious that we ||rode Zenos with a summoning circle on top of...
||i was aware zenos was going to show up but the way he did was. Glorious||
tidal mauve
oh wait I forgot that wasn't possible
so it's literally just so you can finish your pb after killing pulls
still feel like summon baha and searing light should just be combined
but at least now you don't straight up lose dps from not having deathflare when you hit 80
proper zealot
||i was aware zenos was going to show up but the way he did was. Glorious||
||"Ah, yes, let me just take a bite out of Hydaelyn, fly to the edge of the universe at lightspeed, punch a hole through dimensions, let the WoL ride me with a summoning circle on my head, and fight them to the death afterwards even though it's unfair to me"||
haughty crater
As far as raw information, there doesnt appear to be much we didnt already know?
What are these?
late aurora
Pages from the Savages
tidal mauve
tomestone gear upgrade items
livid veldt
||*"Ah, yes, let me just take a bite out of Hydaelyn, fly to the edge of the uni...
||zenos is so damn extra. love him||
haughty crater
tomestone gear upgrade items
how does the gear upgrade system work, and can I buy a weapon with astronomy?
late aurora
But to augment, you need Savage stuff
tidal mauve
the astronomy weapon needs 1000 tomestones and 7 of the item you get from p4n
inland dawn
wasn't that reduced to 500?
tidal mauve
probably not
haughty crater
the astronomy weapon needs 1000 tomestones and 7 of the item you get from p4n
so the weapon is the exception
Does that mean we can freely grab astronomy gear without stressing until 4 more weeks?
tidal mauve
oh it's a line at the bottom of the thing
inland dawn
oh I found it
Furthermore, with the introduction of Allagan tomestones of astronomy, the number of tomestones required for weapons exchange has been reduced from 1,000 to 500.
inland dawn
does anyone know if you can kill asphodelos multiple times for the blade or is it limited to 2 a week?
haughty crater
but for augments you need both astronomy and the boss 2/3 drops?
tidal mauve
yes
chilly bluff
Blade tokens are 1 per week
haughty crater
does anyone know if you can kill asphodelos multiple times for the blade or is i...
its 1 a week, I guess you get 1 from savage too? (not sure)
inland dawn
oh, I was confused cause I had 2 blades but I thought I only ran that once
haughty crater
Hmm we're on week 2 and week 3 (week 1 of savage) is starting today
sand breach
Am i the only one not able to access the patch notes? š
saved it as pdf
haughty crater
inland dawn
aw damn, treasure maps will go up in price quick+
haughty crater
How are these arranged? is it 1 for chest/legs, 1 for hands/gloves/hat, and 1 for all accessory?
haughty crater
aw damn, treasure maps will go up in price quick+
We already knew they were coming so hopefully its not too crazy
dim sigil
Thats why you build up a bunch beforehand
mint sail
ooh
Astronomy gear is the stuff that the radiant host wears
At least for fending/maiming
ruby minnow
OK I don't understand the Ninja change
tidal mauve
think it means you don't drop raiju and kamaitachi
inland dawn
lol if you replay the savage raid it will only spawn 1 coffer or none at all depending on how many are replaying
tidal mauve
maybe they'll make the melee and gap closer different buttons now
chilly bluff
Kamaitachi is fixed. Raiju now lets you choose if you want to use the gap closer or just burn on melee.
chilly bluff
maybe they'll make the melee and gap closer different buttons now
It is. The second part doesn't gap close anymore and functions as a normal melee button, which can also be assigned to your hotbar separately.
ruby minnow
oh ok
tidal mauve
nah they're just making up the difference in dps from baha phase and phoenix phase
gaunt star
āEven moreā? We need more than that lol
hasty drum
mint sail
An issue wherein the number of tomestones needed to purchase items from Mowen's merchant in the Crystarium (X:10.1 Y:11.8) was incorrect.
gaunt star
Drg got buffed for like 5% overall i guess lol
next quarry
Still nice
haughty crater
Drg got buffed for like 5% overall i guess lol
thats just straight wrong, using recent parse data its a 1% buff?
reaper and sage not nerfed is interesting
more interesting are the dancer and ninja changes
idk those classes well enough to know what kind of impact they will have
earnest tangle
dnc change is literally a buff for reaper's arcane circle since they used it during our steps, so now they'll get the full 8 person doing weaponskills from it
Thats about it
gaunt star
thats just straight wrong, using recent parse data its a 1% buff?
I can see one guy in forum will be like āa buff is a buff, i take itā lol
late gulch
gaunt star
Drg miniscule buff, smn got buff but could use more, dnc and rpr is now best bud, rpr slight nerf
untold gull
can you even consider the nerf when it kinda got an indirect buff through dnc?
gaunt star
If there is dnc yeah, but if notā¦. Eeeh iam sure it still no biggy for them
haughty crater
1% buff/nerf is just virtue signaling, no real impact
gaunt star
Brd got nothing, i can hear brd forum is screaming right now
rose arch
second phase of a4s gets new music mayhaps??
tropic frigate
Maps may have music but i dunno
wind bough
Drg buff is p big
1% is a lot when the top and bottom dps jobs are only 10% apart in rdps
mystic mountain
looking at what expansion it affects, likely not from a4s
wind bough
second phase of a4s gets new music mayhaps??
Lolwut
I think they meant P4S
Asphodelos
rose arch
yeah i did
wind bough
Thatās why we donāt do that 
mystic mountain
wind bough
A4S = Alexander
rose arch
i goofed
dim sigil
I swear to Christ if maps have stormblood music again
floral sigil
I can never remember but do we also get new crafted gear this patch in addition to the capped tomes? Or is it just the capped tomes tonight?
chilly bluff
Crafted combat gear, yes.
floral sigil
Cool!
drowsy bane
New mounts
Does that mean thereās more than the P4S one 
floral sigil
Also new Gold Saucer stuff, could be a new mount there!
keen veldt
prisma temple
its always in the next gear cycle
stone grail
its always in the next gear cycle
u mean today maintance or 6.1?
prisma temple
next savage cycle
stone grail
oh so we almost at desyn
mmm the loot from normal and savage is diferent as in weekly cap?
or i cna just clean normal or savage
ea week
prisma temple
i mean the current gear can only be desynthed in the next raid cycle as in P5S - P8S
stone grail
whats P5S ?
potent marsh
Samurai didnāt get a potency adjustments
prisma temple
releasing today
potent marsh
stone grail
what means p1s p4s?
chilly bluff
Baffled as to why their dot and Midare had their range doubled though. Not that I'm complaining. Just saying it's an odd change.
warped hull
Baffled as to why their dot and Midare had their range doubled though. Not that ...
Probably to make it less painful when boss moves and your cast gets canceled
stone grail
oh so one week?
potent marsh
Baffled as to why their dot and Midare had their range doubled though. Not that ...
Itāll feel nice not to feel 1 step away from immediate death
warped hull
Maybe it means boss will be moving a lot this tier
stone grail
also do they drop mounts or something worth farming around the week or just clean once a week and it looses purpose?
gaunt star
true whale
any idea why the preview pictures for armors and the like are always this fucking tiny lol
I'd LOVE to see what they look like but I'm myopic as is
true whale
I couldn't tell tbh
I don't recall ever seeing radiant host armor
I do kind of enjoy the new crafted armor
I assume the one in the preview is just one of the few added
since they said new recipeS
mint sail
tbh I only see it in the fending/maiming gear
mint sail
since they said new recipeS
new crafted mount
astral trout
Sniper Fae
torpid orchid
second phase of a4s gets new music mayhaps??
nah
haughty crater
r u a master
flint heron
PLD not getting mentioned in patch notes
Reaper only gets a small healing nerf
this is fine
wet crown
this isn't even the nerf RPRs should have gotten
lilac island
They didnt touch warrior too
onyx yacht
for good reason
modern trellis
i like sch fey union change tbh 15y was way too short esp if you had fairy heeling
warm egret
sniff sniff, data mines where, line of coke snorting
trim lichen
yea but the tome gear is sick
lilac island
I just dont want DRK to be at the bottom of my tank tier list 
trim lichen
drk is highest dps this patch if nothing else
rotund wolf
Can't believe this. How could they ruin my class right before savage. It's been fun but without that healing potency I simply don't think Reaper will be the same again. See ya dudes, going back to NIN
wind bough
The fact you posted this in multiple channels makes the bait more obvious man
tight topaz
No datamine for this patch, to see the new mount etc?
tight topaz
thnk u, didnt see the ch lol
cloud python
So with new tome gear coming out, is there still a point to running the current ex trials?
trim lichen
mounts
prisma temple
yes, if you want gear for savage raiding
if you dont have them yet
you wont get tome gear all at once
accessories and weapon are normal raid ilvl tier
gaunt star
huh so war isn't even touch at all .... welp more free 90 dungeon clear for me
slate ridge
Oh god, I can smell some salt from drk
sour cradle
how else would they make salted earth
left rivet
The fact the devs didnt do anything to nerf reaper other than its healing ability gives me 0 faith in their ability to balance new classes
boreal fjord
Oh god, I can smell some salt from drk
What, you thought we used pocket sand for our Salted Earth or something?
open verge
The fact the devs didnt do anything to nerf reaper other than its healing abilit...
They basically never nerf classes especially before raid tiers
Keep the reaper nerf copium til 6.1
left rivet
like... this is ||HYD|| extreme
WHY is Reaper ahead of SAM?
Did Sam get party utility this expansion now?
gaunt star
and monk got buffed too
gaunt star
tanks are fine right now
boreal fjord
Monk is ahead of samurai
Breaking News: Fist stronger than Katana.
Whilst Samurai studied the blade, Monks learned how to cast FIST
open verge
You love to see weeb nerds lose
Monks and Dragoons getting buffs while samurai and ninja are crying
tidal mauve
tfw monk now collects stickers
foggy coyote
MNK should always be ahead of SAM
open verge
Literal perfect balance
open verge
MNK should always be ahead of SAM
Based as duck
tidal mauve
not so different
gaunt star
the real losers are mch
open verge
Idk how much I believe in the selfish ranged physical
left rivet
MNK should always be ahead of SAM
Why? it gives raid utility.
open verge
Is it behind in ADPS?
gaunt star
samurai might be behind dragoon with the buffs too xd
open verge
No way it will
tidal mauve
lol black mage
gaunt star
dw im sure they'll make every other job op in 6.1 to adress balance.
foggy coyote
Why? it gives raid utility.
So do MNK and RPR... And?
open verge
Thatās his point
tidal mauve
I mean based on raid utility or lack thereof sam and blm should be top of that list
open verge
Arcane circle and brother do he strong buffs
tidal mauve
though really it's the start of the expansion and more people will log reaper than sam as a result
also because paradox meme
PARADOX STILL LIVES BABY WOOOO
sour cradle
does summoner have a really huge raid buff catalogue? surprised to see a caster below 2 ranged jobs
wind bough
Summoner has one raidbuff
foggy coyote
Okay, my friends and I were all really confused for a second
wind bough
It's just undertuned at the moment
foggy coyote
We were like what raid utility does SAM have
wind bough
just received a buff though
open verge
Woah drg and NIN below rdm tf
We only had 2 fights weāll see how numbers changes this patch and with savage
gaunt star
oh ow that dnc tho
foggy coyote
i mean, that's where it's supposed to be
gaunt star
well I mean I like playing dnc do that doesn't do much for me but I do like more dmg
foggy coyote
like that's DNC's whole point, lol
hazy vigil
doesn't dnc exist to just mega buff someone else?
gaunt star
idk chief I think they should be closer to brd at least
foggy coyote
doesn't dnc exist to just mega buff someone else?
basically
that's kind of always been DNC's role, tbh
in this game and its other incarnations
left rivet
So do MNK and RPR... And?
SAM doesnt?
thats the point
SAM is supposed to be a PURE dps
it should be ontop of the melee chain xD
foggy coyote
i misread what you said. at the time, i thought you were saying it had raid utility.
left rivet
thats its whole design philosophy
foggy coyote
i mean, it's still number 3 in that ranking, i personally don't see what the big deal is
left rivet
AAAND disappointing... the crafted gear is MORE RESKINS
Just what the entire XIV community wanted
more reskins
boreal fjord
I can't remember but I think I remember reading people claiming that MCH was below BRD.
And that SMN was below RDM.
That still true with these patch changes or...?
left rivet
And the worst part it, they didnt even mix up role items
so the magic dps pvp top, is the magic dps crafted top
how cool /sarcasm
brisk quail
AAAND disappointing... the crafted gear is MORE RESKINS
I don't mind. I'm using it for ilvl not style
I got a whole set for style already madeup
junior island
Do we know what the new gold saucer items are?
dim sigil
Pole
junior island
Ty!
dim sigil
Stripper pole housing item
terse mortar
i see
clever fog
Oo
fierce wing
where dance pole
rain onyx
gold saucer
gaunt star
Is the pole the only new thing in gold saucer?
lean ore
ye
gaunt star
I mean I love it but damn
tidal mauve
lol
simple fiber
well, dang, you need to meld some crap for master recipes eh?
granite nimbus
That's usually how they work.
simple fiber
I'll figure it out I guess, plus food will put me over
granite nimbus
Holy shit, Cunning VII materia are going for 37k gil on Gilgamesh right now.
gaunt star
So, after seeing the teaser from YoshiP, what do you guys think will be the next arc?
Heard some people mention the new world and stuff
granite nimbus
Meracydia would be another good place to visit.
Check on Tiamat and explore an entirely different continent.
Get to learn more about the Allagans from their war crimes there against the Meracydian horde.
open verge
wonder where azdaja is chillin at
wonder what his personality is
probably less chill then the other dragons and more like niddy tbh
gaunt star
Now the question is whether any of that will actually be Arc worthy
tropic frigate
There is a good bit to cover over .1 through 6.5
simple fiber
I wouldn't be against using Corvos and finishing the Gabranth story.
gaunt star
Wait, Gabranth is in ff14? 
gaunt star
Damn, didn't expect him to pop in ff14
healers die to repeat mechanics
simple fiber
I'm gonna guess 14 Gabranth is a very different character
lean ore
isnt the guy from zadnor called gabranth? forgot
simple fiber
I haven't played 12 or tactics
gaunt star
I only know him from dissidia
stiff charm
DONT BELIEVE ONDORES LIES
brisk quail
isnt the guy from zadnor called gabranth? forgot
Yes
brisk quail
And he's totally alive and faked his own death. And his right hand man is rounding up the remaining vestiges of his army in an attempt to supress information about his plans dead
granite nimbus
Materia is hilariously expensive right now.
simple fiber
to be expected
granite nimbus
People are shelling out 34k gil per Cunning VII materia.
So I've basically made a million gil just by leveling crafters.
(Only have one more to go!)
simple fiber
need that better chance to HQ those weapons!
interesting, on my server at least the DNC weapon is the most expensive haha
many others are down to 600k already
rare forum
Anyone got the new gear looks?
simple fiber
which one
rare forum
The new 90 one
simple fiber
crafted is the higher ilvl stormblood pvp gear
but black with blue/gold accents
the tomestone gear is called radiant and looks like the radiant guard in Thavnair
rare forum
Didn't they add the new astronomy tomstones or something like that
Want to know how the gear brought with that looks
simple fiber
I'm sure you can find it on youtube or google for a picture of it, it's kinda scaly
real badger
What melds should I use for paladin
humble heron
U can find on the balance
placid imp
Does excitatron need any particular party size?
tropic frigate
Nah just enough to survive so i guess for most people either 3 or 4 if you have a good healer
2 is pretty slow
next quarry
I remember when I was on the 5th floor in shb maps and our healer had to go afk
placid imp
Oh rad. My wife and I play healer/tank, so we could conveivably manage right?
lean ore
doesnt sound very Exciting6000
simple fiber
I'm feeling evil that I have no issues undercutting crafted stuff in this game
fierce wing
Some crafted stuff are already 73k gil in JP
lean ore
I'm feeling evil that I have no issues undercutting crafted stuff in this game
a guy put on sale for 50 mil the crafted reaper scythe
1 hour later he was forced to put it the lowest
prime niche
I've been seeing 200-400k on my world for stuff I checked with the occasional item being 900k lol
so it's all over the place still
fierce wing
prime niche
and it's not the only expense either since they're "worse" than raid gear but you can overmeld them
so there's also that expense...
lean ore
i still dunno if i should replace my moonward ring with the crafted one since i have no plans on doing EX1
fierce wing
Nah just chill for the new tomestone one
prime niche
nah, crafted has worse base stats
fierce wing
Or even normal raid one
prime niche
I'd only consider it once the prices drop more, both the item and materia lol
lean ore
so ill just buy the 390 one i guess
fierce wing
Only the super trihard/lazy to cap tomestone will buy the crafted stuff
prime niche
or if you want to drop straight into savage and need the ilevel boost
lean ore
im not touching savage
whenever i watch these streams like day 1 n such im like "aww nawh no"
fierce wing
same. the glam sucks for the normal, i dont really need it dyed
prime niche
i wanted a crafter at 90 so I could get on the gravy train but the materials for leveling are super inflated on my world :/
lean ore
the scythe sucks tho
wether u can dye it or not doesnt change the fact as far as appearance goes
prime niche
need to see if leves will get me there
fierce wing
Nah, there's no barrier to entry for gravy train this time.
lean ore
i got CUL to 90 early in the expansion
fierce wing
There was one on EW release, that barrier was called play time.
lean ore
should craft some of the new foods i guess
prime niche
well the other train is materia aka hunt/fate spamming for clusters lol
fierce wing
Oh ye pumpkin new crit food.
prime niche
since X materia is crazy at the moment
fierce wing
ehhh kinda low
simple fiber
trying to get a weapon sold over 1 million but I doubt it'll happen haha
having fun undercutting regardless
lean ore
weapons are all under 1mil on ragnarok xd
specially scythes, apparently ppl crafted too many of em worry
lean ore
WAR/DRK were the most expensive early here xDD
fierce wing
Im already forced to drop my weapon prices to 190k ea lol
lean ore
kekw
fierce wing
welp i already did the maths to know where my bottom line is
simple fiber
interesting, someone undercut the DRK weapon by 50%
fierce wing
An absolute madlad
prime niche
inb4 someone buys and relists
fierce wing
Sounds like bitcoin
prime niche
tbh I'd do the same thing if someone undercuts by 50%
buy it, relist closer to what the market is, free money gained
fierce wing
I'd just craft my own and undercut the one that's undercutting by 50% by 10gil
prime niche
even with the taxes eating the profits you're still up lol
fierce wing
Because you know one w that kind of price wont sell
prime niche
MB in general has been kinda nuts with world visits being super difficult
fierce wing
World visiting w all these queues is a no man
prime niche
so all the markets tend to rely on whatever the local economy is and becomes wildly unbalanced lol
i.e, some material is 200 gil one place but 2k in another
fierce wing
My local economy is tiny
prime niche
I'm on Faerie which is one of the largest ones on Aether iirc
everything's inflated and it sucks for me leveling lmao
fierce wing
At least my highest queue was only 900 ppl
and right now i can relog for a 15man queue
prime niche
If I log in before everyone gets out of work (myself included, lol) the queue's fine, but it spikes to 2k+ during peak
fierce wing
My queue spike disappears after patch day/ ew release
it goes back to double digit queues so fast
It's like the only reason why there's a queue, is because everyone that got kicked out is trying to relog
not that people coming back for savage raids
Feels like that anyway, people prolly doing savage
simple fiber
nah, even on my realm one 50% undercutter is joined by 4 others way too fast
fierce wing
i dont get how undercutters have time
I need more time to craft stuff than to undercut
simple fiber
I only made two things cause I'm not pressed about it
fierce wing
Im trying to keep 1 of everything on sale
but it feels like my ship has too many holes
and im too slow
btw anyone run the map dungeon yet?
how was it
wet crown
a treasure
fierce wing
Was it full of happiness
restive dock
how hard are the new raids?
fierce wing
wow
alot are stuck at the 3rd one
according to what i see on twitch
coz they're racing for world first there
fierce wing
i mean they're doing it blind right?
shell merlin
how hard are the new raids?
First 2 cleared easily
sand tiger
alot are stuck at the 3rd one
From what Iāve seen there is some dps check going on that those racing run into, not yet having the respective crafted gear for a solid chance to make it.
sand tiger
just a matter of time until the crafters catch on and this part of p3s gets solved.
cloud roost
pentamelds probably not mandatory
fierce wing
If you wait 1 week i guess
cloud roost
the check can probably be cleared if the fight is optimised
fierce wing
Owh.
cloud roost
remember that they're only a couple hours into the fight
sand tiger
apparently pentamelds do improve the chances considerably. But idk if they are the breaking point.
fierce wing
Mgiht just wait 1 week for that new tomestone gear xd
prime niche
if you get crafted gear you're doing it to pentameld tbh
or I guess because you can't yet have an entire raid set
fierce wing
Yeah, no raid set so u just buy ur way into a savage raid xd
But the crafted set w/o penta is definitely worst than the raid/trial 580 right?
prime niche
According to patch notes 1 is 570, 2 is 575, 3-4 is 580 for ilevel
and yes
because worse base stats
fierce wing
Are they worse than moonward?
prime niche
from what I could tell yeah
they're technically a lower rarity so their base stats are slightly worse
fierce wing
guess I'll have to farm the other ex trials more so i dont use crafted
prime niche
but you can't pentameld moonward so the difference is made up especially if you're targeting specific stats
fierce wing
for my alt jobs i mean
prime niche
yeah for alts not doing savage or something moonward is enough at least for right now
but ofc savage is every little bit of an edge helps since it's basically min ilevel progression lol
fierce wing
so what songs are "on Blade's Edge" and "Finality" ?
They're the only new orchestrions i see
gold boi blessed be
cloud roost
The crafted gear, when HQ, is on par for base stats with ilvl 580 gear from the raids/extreme trials, FYI
NQ is definitely worse
fierce wing
i can pick a gold boi up for 1mil gil weee
fierce wing
oh yeah i didnt check how good the new tomestone gear is
simple fiber
yes, second stormblood set
mild hornet
crafted gear is a reskin of a stormblood pvp set
timber otter
ah gotcha
next quarry
The first crafted gear of an expac is the same model of a previous set
Like ShB facet gear
burnt timber
Does anyone know if there is a resource or website that lists all the dungeon notes/narration for EW? Mostly looking for the stuff within ||The Dead Ends||
simple fiber
chakrams sold at 780k, I'll take it
tardy hare
Does anyone know if there is a resource or website that lists all the dungeon no...
someone normally compiles stuff like that as time goes on but I haven't seen anyone put together a google doc for it yet, best bet would be to trust the dungeon since the npcs give you all the time in the world, that's what I did
blazing edge
How do I get royal lunatender
next quarry
Map dungeons iirc
next quarry
!minion royal lunatender
lusty shadowBOT
Minion Data Powered by https://ffxivcollect.com/
next quarry
Ya get to the last floor
blazing edge
Is it RNG within RNG
lilac abyss
What's the ilvl for the new map dungeon?
simple fiber
or drop the gil
lethal nebula
how are crafted worse than i570
are you looking at HQ?
i570
hq crafted
main stat at same ilvl is always the same
assuming HQ
regardless of gear background colour
jade relic
which profession crafts the bard armour?
golden grotto
is there a high end raids channel to ask questions?
humble heron
P3s lookin nearly solved
Cant wait for p4s to be absolute bollocks
Oh seems some people are on p4s but only just
slate ridge
i feel like im the only one who's tired of the many haurchefant references post hw
like how ||when vtra tells you about how your adventures drag people and you remember those who died (haurchefant is among them) and how his spirit can give you a buff in aitiascope|| many people still get upset but im like "oh no another haurchefant reference"
prime niche
Is there really that many though? A couple references for an important character seems appropriate to me
I know not everyone liked him, but still
open verge
i feel like im the only one who's tired of the many haurchefant references post ...
I too am tired of it
Iām tired of all those
Every time they give you a dialogue choice and itās a quote of other characters itās just uhhh
So over done now
somber storm
Deliveries
granite nimbus
You get like, 1800 per delivery though.
So that's close to 3,150 deliveries in one week.
somber storm
And gear
gaunt star
What's the meld setup for paladins right now?
rain onyx
What's the meld setup for paladins right now?
!faq pldbis
lusty shadowBOT
haughty crater
How much is left after fourfold
what is it? dart board, four, hotcold, dart and fin?
four is the only hard part cause you need raid coordination
open verge
Fourfold yea
Clear video makes it look like every just stands in a marker tbh
Does it matter which market your in as long as purple out red in for fourfold?
granite nimbus
What's the max rank of Companion?
You need Thavnairian Onions to raise the level cap.
Unfortunately, onion demand spiked with EW's release.
timid hull
Aaaaaaaaaaa
granite nimbus
So they're like, 480k to 550k gil each.
timid hull
Oh that's not too bad
granite nimbus
They used to be 150k at the end of ShB.
timid hull
I don't have an estate
humble heron
You can use fc housing for it i believe
dim sigil
i feel like im the only one who's tired of the many haurchefant references post ...
I think he's handled really well in the game itself people just have exhaustion of him because of things out of the game aka the fanbase
humble heron
Im sure a fc would be happy to help do onions for you if you procured the seeds
dim sigil
I would be careful about that s word I got Auto banned once because of it
granite nimbus
S word?
humble heron
I assume he means relating to gardening
dim sigil
I think because it related to some other person who was constantly coming on here and posting some shit it was on the automatic anti word list
humble heron
Ill keep that in mind, lol
timid hull
Imagine not just deleting messages instead of muting someone for 1-hour
I typed a President's name and got muted for 1 hour. No warning
cloud roost
i replaced the q with a g accidentally when typing !faq and got 1 houred lol
humble heron
If you got complaints #discord-modmail exists but this isnt the place for all that jazz
timid hull
i replaced the q with a g accidentally when typing !faq and got 1 houred lol
Ima be real with you fam.
q is very far from g so if your muscle memory went to g then...
humble heron
This channel is for talking about thancred
cloud roost
Ima be real with you fam.
q is very far from g so if your muscle memory went to...
it's because it was followed by something like gear
and i was very tired
i genuinely don't type that word all too often
(might say it irl a bit more often though š¬š§ )
((it's a slang word for cigarette))
timid hull
humble heron
Well, here isnt the uk
open verge
i would be lying if i said it wasnt common where i live either šŗšø
timid hull
cloud roost
<a:popcorn:651874927686713363>
i mean if you're gonna start trying to accuse me of being a bigot naturally i'm gonna have something to say
open verge
just chill bruh
timid hull
i mean if you're gonna start trying to accuse me of being a bigot naturally i'm ...
I'm not, I'm just watching the trainwreck
open verge
who did maps today
open verge
anyone get lucky
humble heron
I didnt
cloud roost
humble heron
Anyway i think estinien and vrtra should get married
open verge
i think estinen should become a dragon therapist
humble heron
Also he should open a french cafe
dim sigil
anyone get lucky
I got to watch everybody else be lucky while I was not
open verge
hey the passive gil you get is always nice
i got 0 drops but i did get 400k
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
maps are always fun but im dissapointed its the exact same thing since like HW
dim sigil
Maybe more mini games that can randomly pop up other than high and low
The mobs seem to be really under tune but I don't remember day 1 Maps mobs dying this fast
But like I'm not complaining either
open verge
theres gotta be more gambling games they can steal
viral dew
humble heron
Right but heres what would happen
They would make the best prizes be at 21
And everyone and their mother would hit at anything less
viral dew
This is Thancred.
humble heron
This is Thancred.
open verge
how does blackjack work again
humble heron
You start with 2 cards
open verge
you want to hit closest to 21 right
viral dew
You lose if you go over
random rock
open verge
YEP LOL
viral dew
Rappy Slots are great
open verge
i wonder what game square enix rips and stuffs into ff14
we are already getting payload and harvest moon this expansion
humble heron
I think they stole a lot from the final fantasy franchise without asking
Except cup noodle
open verge
ohhh right
they never announced the big gold saucer content
must be far down the line
granite nimbus
I mainly played Mesetan Shooter for arcade stuff in PSO2.
cloud roost
ye
open verge
Any link? Couldnāt find on sub
coarse meadow
14 hours and 52 min
cloud roost
Any link? Couldnāt find on sub
open verge
Whatās the mount btw
next quarry
phoinix
open verge
I knew it
coarse meadow
Whew thatās cool
open verge
Predicted that
glossy hemlock
Who ended up getting worldās first clear for P4S?
next quarry
only saw an off comment about the music
cloud roost
Who ended up getting worldās first clear for P4S?
TPS
cloud roost
i can tell you they're called TPS
wind bough
It's the static Sfia is part of
boreal drum
so I take it all of this new new tomestone gear is bis?
wind bough
BiS is a mix of augmented tomestone and savage drops as always
boreal drum
I want to join a FC for Savage content. I'd feel more comfortable with talking in a voice chat opposed to having it explained in text
wind bough
FCs for savage content arenāt really a thing
Savage is done in statics, groups of eight people who meet up x times a week to raid
You can search recruitment discords and try to find a newbie-friendly static.
There are links to such discords in #resources , find the right one for your datacentre
fierce wing
So what do they get for being world first
late trail
bragging rights
fierce wing
So what can you do with reddit karma
minor wren
Bragging rights
wind bough
they get to laugh at people who said drk is bad for prog
viscid monolith
Again
hasty isle
So is there any reason to do the non savage version of the raid now that savage is out?
Im kinda new to endgame raids like this
simple fiber
Normal is there for more casual players
slate ridge
are sch and drk the saltiest jobs? i feel like there's still a lot of salt over the fact drk has no changes and that means yoshi p and se dont care about the job
slate ridge
im actually happy fey union's radius was expanded
simple fiber
Drk has some core kit problems
wind bough
So is there any reason to do the non savage version of the raid now that savage ...
It gives i480 gear which is still relevant for prog gear and for alt jobs
simple fiber
DNC and pld really want potency buffs
hasty isle
Ah yeah I suppose so
wind bough
DRK's major problems atm: lack of self-sustain, and blood weapon jank
It has the highest dps among tanks though, so.
hasty isle
I saw that the savage version drops armor upgrades?
wind bough
Yes, tomestone gear augmentation items come from savage
however that's still all weekly caps
tomestones are capped and savage drops are capped.
So you can't get them for all your jobs for quite some time
hasty isle
so best gear rn is the new tomestone gear upgraded with the savage itmes?
wind bough
BiS is a mixture of augmented tomestone gear and savage drop gear.
This is always the case.
Both are i600 sets but have different substat spreads
so you mix and match them to get your BiS build
simple fiber
The Savage weapon is 5 ilvl ahead regardless
wind bough
Yeah savage weapon is i605 and is BiS except in very rare cases
simple fiber
Relic stages are usually a patch behind the raids?
hasty isle
is BiS just max lvl gear?
simple fiber
So say p8s drops 635 a 635 relic would be in 6.3?
Stats can beat ilvl but generally ilvl wins I think
Unless it's a really atrocious stat for your job
wind bough
Relic stages are usually a patch behind the raids?
yes
wind bough
is BiS just max lvl gear?
BiS is a specific mix-and-matched set made up of pieces from the two sets of highest-ilvl gear that exist.
simple fiber
Ah cool, so savage raiders get a patch with the bis weapon before all us plebs get shiny relics
humble heron
There are still people who got a killing by selling preorders
still kiln
This was literally never going to be a gold rush. Mats were super fucking plentiful and 2* is really never that difficult.
wind bough
who reads these sites lmao
still kiln
no clue
but yeah anybody with functional braincells wasn't expecting 2* to be massively difficult.
not like even high melds are massively expensive either. Not like you're making a escutcheon or something.
simple fiber
I'm hoping the 6.1 crafting gear isn't hard to make
wraith oak
I was always confused from people trying to have something like 100mil gil. There's nothing to spend that much on
wraith oak
I have 1.5mil and just been playing the game just fine
quasi owl
Wait you guys have money
simple fiber
100m is a ton to most people
still kiln
all more money does is let you spend more money to make even more money
wraith oak
Not really. My money is basically just teleport currency
dim sigil
Food, mateira and pots will eat that up
simple fiber
I have 17m and I'm feeling a bit above average haha
still kiln
you pretty quickly hit a point where all more gil does is make you more gil
granite nimbus
Gil is... only really useful for getting stuff without grinding.
I'm sitting on 20 million myself.
quasi owl
all more money does is let you spend more money to make even more money
Teach me your ways o great one
granite nimbus
Primarily from materia sales and leve grinding before the EW nerf.
wraith oak
Gil is... only really useful for getting stuff without grinding.
Lol. Like you didn't have to grind to get the gil in the first place
granite nimbus
Lol. Like you didn't have to grind to get the gil in the first place
Yesn't?
It's either grind for gil or grind stuff like Extremes.
quasi owl
I've yet to do the extremes still trying to level all the classes
wind bough
I have 30mil and Iād consider that not very wealthy
wraith oak
But that's why I'm confused. How is having 30 mil monopoly money mean you're rich or not?
quasi owl
I think I'm getting flexed on
granite nimbus
Nah.
There's those people in the billionaires club.
Who have multiple billions of gil.
quasi owl
Well I mean
granite nimbus
But don't really... do anything with it?
quasi owl
At that point your just having money to have money
pulsar current
fun
granite nimbus
Just buy some glamour.
pulsar current
number big
still kiln
glam ain't thjat expensive
and yeah past a fairly low point
it's all just an exercise in number go up
quasi owl
At that point you would have Ben able to buy the whole market
dim sigil
It's nice to see numbers go up and it's fun in a way because it represents money even if there's nothing to spend it on
wraith oak
These type of people have the same sociopathic tendencies that real life billionaires have where having the money IS the goal.
still kiln
things just aren't particularly expensive in xiv
there's just not a rema/crafting shield type money pit in xiv
biggest money pit i can think of offhand is like if you want all the eureka toys and even that really isn't that much
simple fiber
they add the gil sink mounts
still kiln
ok those are what 75m total?
add that to the like 25m cassie earring+blitzring+magicite costs add in a couple of expensive mounts/minions and you're probably still not even at 200m
oh i guess you have the 2 gemstone voucher things which cost like 50m each so yeah you can hit maybe mid 200m or so but past that there's just almost nothing to spend money on and that really is a fairly attainable number especially if you're been around a while
gaunt star
https://external-preview.redd.it/F2UCOSpx712_710dyztGuCnXmbjqWtkmmhuf9akiE9Y.png...
buy NFTs
late aurora
Banned
gaunt star
jk donāt itās a scam
still kiln
add in a mansion and decorating it i guess for another quantity but still it's really not absurd to reach a point where you just don't have much to spend your money on beyond some fairly low baseline expenses especially considering not every player is going to want all of the shit i just mentioned
gaunt star
honestly tho of you have that much money in game log off and go for a walk
still kiln
and make more money while you're doing that sure
money making doesn't have to be a particularly active thing a lot of it is just market trends and having enough capital to capitalize on them
slate ridge
how do you get the tier x materia?
simple fiber
which one?
slate ridge
savage might maybe?
also do you have to do a rank hunts for nut farming or any hunts
simple fiber
easiest is to spend those atheno crystals you get from levelling and alliance raid roulettes
you can get more from hunts
slate ridge
any hunts in shb and ew?
simple fiber
I actually don't know if ShB marks give the new ones
haughty crater
how do you get the tier x materia?
extract from lvl 90 gear (rare chance), drop from dungeon chests, trade for clusters from adventurer-in-need roulette
simple fiber
absolute fastest way is EW hunt trains and s ranks
untold gull
https://external-preview.redd.it/F2UCOSpx712_710dyztGuCnXmbjqWtkmmhuf9akiE9Y.png...
wait, how
keen osprey
Any idea when does 6.1 drop?
chilly bluff
April-ish?
keen osprey
Alright, thanks
prime niche
fierce wing
just wondering how long i can play other games for :x
acoustic zinc
in 6.05 patches there was a mention of "new elite Marks" arnt these hunts? and if so why would they add more?
fierce wing
Maybe more cool SS ranks ones
acoustic zinc
but i thought all the zones bar pre-shb had SS ranks?
acoustic zinc
ohh i did not realise that. interesting.
fierce wing
previously only had these 4 right?
acoustic zinc
ty for answering my question ā¤ļø
fierce wing
if im not wrong
then they added 2 more
idk about the A ranks tho
coz i only went for S ranks
sage atlas
oh hey i got the finality roll from the excitatron, probably not worth much-
WHAT THE FUCK
fierce wing
Yeah it's new.
New stuff always worth alot, until it gets sorted by frequency of drop i guess
rip phonograph
Im so sad
i have to do DR:MS for the tomestones
pastel venture
cloth of happiness goes for like 600k in my server
fierce wing
its already 200k in mine
gaunt star
Honestly, how difficult is savage 2nd compared to savage 1st? I'm still stuck with the 2nd color blocks in savage 1st floor
prisma temple
the larger jump in difficulty usually is between 2 and 3
gaunt star
I've been practicing 1 for around 6 hours now, and does it take more time to practice 2? I just want to get an overall picture of how much time it takes
weary rampart
anyone got the drop for p4n picture?
prisma temple
anyone got the drop for p4n picture?
weary rampart
ok ty
olive spruce
vital timber
how are pugs coming along for P1S?
weary rampart
wait p3s require u|| to die 4 time as dps (aka got hit by the atk 4 times )??||
wet crown
obv not
river hound
how do ppl even know they are the world first to clear savage/ultimates.
weary rampart
how do ppl even know they are the world first to clear savage/ultimates.
the dev team has a way to track
river hound
how do the players themselves know though...i'm curious, liek the devs congrats them or something?
river hound
lol.
blazing edge
Wow there's like a 2 hour difference between the first two
hazy vigil
oh hey i got the finality roll from the excitatron, probably not worth much-
WH...
These people never heard of youtube?
pulsar yacht
mount from p4s is nice 
(another team cleared and healer got mount so was shown off on stream)
simple fiber
I'm living for the crafter salt even as a casual omni crafter myself
open verge
mount from p4s is nice <:sofieLost:902667501358444544>
Itās boss 3 right
pulsar yacht
yeah
hidden jacinth
who uses Simple Tweaks here? I don't see the difference with the Camera Legacy stuff, with or without it, feels the same to me, really annoying that both mouse buttons holding are just rotating my character after the camera, it's broken now or what?
trail lagoon
P12s?
late aurora
Doesnāt exist yet
stiff charm
and wont for like a year
versed pebble
Finally. I finished MSQ and can enter here 
fierce wing
Man i feel abit mentally tired doing savage progs
People making mistakes at parts where you've cleared w them before mentally drains me.
I should just watch catgirls dance in limsa
primal basalt
get a static
fierce wing
it is same group of ppl
lean skiff
What's the best way to get X battle materia?
wet crown
roulettes
lean skiff
Right, the clusters?
wet crown
adventurer in need bonus
lean skiff
Are there any other ways?
wet crown
you can also buy 'em
lean skiff
Alright, thanks š
granite nimbus
Phew, farmed 420 Underground Spring Water and 420 Sweet Assylum for an FC mate.
She's trying to make bank on the market board.
delicate goblet
Iām a solo player and this is my first time looking at treasure maps. Is there a good way to lfg for these things?
My map says I should have 8 players when I dig for the treasure.
humble heron
@delicate goblet you can party finder it
Or invoke the forbidden magic and join a fc / make friends
delicate goblet
Hahah considering the joining a free company route. Looking for an active one on Adamantoise
humble heron
!faq communityfinder
lusty shadowBOT
humble heron
Youll find a fc there
delicate goblet
Done, just sent an app to TYFP. Thanks for the tip!
spiral mica
autumn sandal
I'm curious how they even know the name unless they just used the external site the Twitch broadcast was using
cuz groups don't really go in with a name or the same fc
cyan girder
for cloth of happiness, what materials are needed to make the boots etc?
slender siren
Msq 83 ||bruh this looks more badass as Rpr||
deft burrow
Ya
open verge
Msq 83 ||bruh this looks more badass as Rpr||
||makes me think next expansion reapers get a new avatar||
stiff charm
i think ||we have definitely not seen the last of that avatar||
||either it comes back in a void expansion or as a villain for 6.x||
dim sigil
Avatar glam?
stiff charm
||no way they give us that sick of a design and just ????? its dead lol||
golden palm
hey, remember when ||Zenos being a RPR was meant to be relevant?||
||yeah me too||
lean ore
copium
open verge
I ||thought Zenos having the final day dream was supposed to mean something but I guess not lol||
||zenos is a Greek name so maybe there is still ancient fuk shit there idk||
lean ore
I ||thought Zenos having the final day dream was supposed to mean something but ...
|| the fact even hythlo couldnt recognize his soul too xD ||
open verge
He couldnāt?