#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
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i think ex1 is just as bad as inno and tit
true
I was fine with it until I heard that people get motion sickness from it
that's a freaking no go
the stars are the worst part of the fight because the visual feedback is very misleading
stars arent much of an issue
because my job can cheese the mechanic 
wonder where we go next
Only if we knew. Game's dead
No new raid hint either. Smh

is there a way for the last area to be in gold state in dead ends explorer mode
nop
||I'm still hoping there's a Greg relic set. Where we fight shit to make a sword legendary with him and he tries to steal it from us||
Is there any word as to when cross-data-server travel will be enabled?
6.1
is there a place to put spoiler memes
Here, just mark as spoiler
thanks! is there an expected timeline for that? just want to know if I have to transfer my character to play with my friend
Huh, my mind just randomly popped out saying: Probably mentor and NN feature shouldn’t exist 
I dont find the NN useful though. I was automatically invited into NN back from Day 1 and no one ever answer my question 
whats best way to lvl BTN this expansion?
Levemetes, LV80-90 Gatherer Story Quest, Turn in Collectables for scripts (yes it comes along with EXP)
DAAAAMN
pvp roulette gives a shit ton of exp
that was half my level
wow fandance 4 animation is so stupid
pog
So warrior and paladin are sub healer now
i just finished 25% zod by myself cause party wiped 4 times
yes, war gud
need holmgang with stacker tho
So warrior are
Dps
Tank
Healer
well a really bad dps still, its about 30% less damage than dps
but otherwise very angery tank and now partially a paladin as well
redemption 
Butt butt butt the CrIt
they saw that half the warriors switched to dark knight and yeah, they solved that problem now
u missing zenos with a majoras mask on it
Lol
but im stealing that meme
Post 83 Dungeon be like
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I just noticed... why is ||Meteion's|| size scaled to us?
Is it really? 
Probably of her own volition
yey, I got lucky and rolled 97 lol
A lonx
Oh
so on ||Elpis||, when we were ||scaled to the size of the ancients||, that should've been our baseline height
||Hermès or maybe her lack of aether?||
but when back in our own ||timeline, somehow the height comparison between us and meteion remains the same||
I mean we already know ||she can manipulate her physical appearance and aether|| and essentially is a god being in ||ultima thule||
The reality definitely being it’s just easier to develop that way
||She has only ever demonstrated changing to the form of a bird, and even then, it's also not scaled||
||sure, but shes also able to instant transmission better than goku so i would be willing to accept shes got quite a few tricks up her sleeve||
||Emet and Hythlo being scaled down makes sense, because we were using our magic to give form to them, and in our mind, that's the height we're accustomed to for them||
I mean if ||we kept the size scaling we'd be dwarfing every npc in the game post elpis||
But ||Meteion has no reason to adjust her height depending on who she interacts with||, and i think is basically a minor inconsistency that was overlooked
I don’t think it was overlooked
It was definitely just a gameplay decision 
Like yes in the story your right
||The size scaling we had on Elpis being only on Elpis i can accept. The size scaling problem is only with Meteion who by right should've been way bigger because she's scaled to the ancients, and not the sundered people||
||Big Lala||.
lol
lmao
when is ishgard housing dropping?
6.1 iirc
For the people that have done them.. are the extremes for this trial to hard to start out on? Literally haven’t done any type of extreme content before synced and want some of dem ex2 weapons
I find ex2 easier if you have a group that knows what they're doing but both are fine
Good to know
Sitting at Absolute Horizon and cheering on the people showing up there for the first time. 😌
random thought about height inconsistencies ||zenos is essentially 2/3rds the height of an ancient, isn't he||
What inconsistencies
height inconsistency topic
Complaining that a being made of ||pure emotion energy bullshit should be a diffrent size but completely forgets the fact she's made of bullshit energy and can change her form at will||
I'm pretty sure if ||she showed up to any civilization while not 'at their scale' shit goes down alot differently than it did||
Like with the ||Namazu facing down a 20ft birb person asking them what makes life worth living. To a fucking fish. Yeah that'll go down well and not cause a mass panic||
Can we replay the || final instance cutscene? The one where you fist fight zenos ||
||My brother said we can't and I'm still at the credits so i cant check.. I really wanna screenshot that scene||
I mean... I was listening to a podcast or something like 90% of the times that I did that so...
Not yet
New game+
I see, thank you!
You know what I just remembered
||why did they play big fat tacos during the meteoin fight||
It was very off-putting like I was back fighting a weapon or something
||because the phase 1 theme is an amalgamation of every final boss theme thus far; ultima weapon, king thordan, shinryu, and hades||
||did they play that theme in the previous final bosses? I guess I just connect it to ultima, ruby, emerald, diamond||
||it was because of ultima weapon yes||
||Can't blame you for it, it is pretty much an arrangement of the previous final bosses from ARR up to ShB, it started from Worm's Tail because Zenos then Ultima in the start of the fight. When it transitions to Revenge of the Horde and Invincible you're in the thick of the fight so it's not as noticeable. Add to that the fame (infamy?) of Big Fat Tacos, so it's pretty much the most noticeable of the tracks used.||
I've completed 6.0
I'm aimless and know not what to do with my life.
Guess I'll become a blasphemy
If you mean that scene, cutscene 5 or 6 of that quest. If you mean the actual fight, no, not yet
|| just the cutscene, speecifically when you start trading punchees with him ||
thank you very much!
Why is bloodwhetting so good

why not
Fair feedback
I cant believe Cid just went and took full credit of the ||ship the Sharlayans built||
you mean ||the ship he built|| 
||Not wearing the sophist robes dyed white, failure of a glam||
So trying to think on what more to do
I have the Raid, Shared FATEs, Crafting and full 90's left i believe.
I done all quests, i finished all Role Quests, and Trusts full 90 too
Got the full Boss FATE Tokens too, all the Hunt items...
Am i forgetting anything Endwalker Specific they added?
I guess you could farm for the 90 dungeon minions
Well, i am right now wondering on the "One Time" Activities, so to say
One time clear, or super short
Minions and Mounts and such are in the bucket list of "Things to do oncei am full 90"
Then i think youve got it all figured out
sounds narcissistic i think
Ngl, I need ||zenos enshroud mode and its outfit for reaper||
Namely ||the enshroud mode||
||rewatched all the Zenos endwalker cutscenes this guy is 100% a tragic villian||
I just feel bad for the guy
||never having enjoyment and the one time you find it you realize you’ll never feel that good again so you die||
||and then being forcibly reborn you just look for a way to get that feeling again||
sauce of interview?
I see Zeno meme back again since stormblood
i misspoke
it's not an interview
oh
it's a message
Since shadowbringer release 2 race with opportunities gender why does end walker not release the same 2 race fill back the 2 other gender that was missing?
because that was something they decided later in development
vs femviera and maleroth
which were greenlit from the get go
they wanted Hrothgar but fans demanded Viera
plus apparently they had plenty of issues with bunbois
so they compromised
and because people were mad we didn't get male Viera...
they shifted their work around, added extra work for female Viera hairstyles, etc etc
in 6.1, we'll get new hair styles for male Hrothgar and in a later patch we'll get femhroth
tbh, it's very likely a new MSQ NPC will be one as well
I really hope one of our new companion is a fan service type waifu. This game is full of fan service male NPCs but there's not nearly enough female characters that does the part. Y'shtola has been waifu for a long time alone and she isn't really exactly the fan service type. I'd really like someone like Cid from FFXV on the team for once
I mean, i can understand that sentiment. Between thancred, urianger, and graha theres a lot of different male archetypes
Okay but like, why do the female characters need to be "fanservice"
I'll happily take a Femroe in fullplate however. More roe representation in general
I just want moenbryda back
The msq needs more hrothgar
I can’t count a single important Hrothgar In Endwalker
I don’t think a single Hrothgar was voiced as well 
Do any of you guys remember the 1.0 companion that was super horny
Pretty sure it was a miqote
It’s the miqote
Not to worry, though, she’ll be gentle—assuming that’s what you like.
story is bangin
at lvl 88 quests rn
this is way better than any of the other expansions
I wonder how they’ll handle 6.1 and beyond
New arc but I still have so many questions grrr
GUYS QUESTION
Does the song thats plays ||in the first cutscene of this video have a name? https://youtu.be/ySqsYUPoa9U||
I know there's a scene missing, these were all the ones in the cutscene book. Timestamps to come!
Dude that was the cutscene right before a12 unlocked, how didn’t you...
||"Imagination (piano arrangement)"||
Thanks so much man
New year in Limsa lominsa .
So much Degeneracy going on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-MyuNY8z8Y&ab_channel=private400
that's thancred
Thanchad
thats thancred

Modifications
But that specific scene is likely just photo editing
Tancredi, Thancred's illegitimate son
Thancred nft
This is Thancred
No guys, We are Thancred
woo, when tank goes "Good job" after a massive pull when you're healing
it was close
last big pull in Tower of Zot
cause I cna't seem to see the pandemonium quest giver @chilly bluff
I'm already done with ew

Should be right in front of the Annex in Sharlayan. Check journal? Do you have a quest called "Crystal From Beyond"?
Reposted for correct channel:
What a way to end the new year, I finally beat ZFex for the first time.
Now for the second ex trial
@chilly bluff Ohh shit yeah I already have it hahaha i guess that's why
thanks a lot man
has any1 seen a snippet of pandy savage ilvl req for p1s?
prolly 570 but we dont know 100% til patch notes
im capped on tomes and holding my pandy normal tokens til BiS is released lol
hopefully we can desynth moon gear next week and not wait til 6.1 ><
I finished EW tonight and it was so good. 😭 I can't wait to replay with my friends and for the next expansion... I know that's overly eager, there's lots to do in the mean time - but I'm still excited! This is the first time I've been totally caught up since I started playing a few years ago.
the payoff after 10 years of ffxiv.... so good
It'll prob be another 1.5 years before another expansion, though we do have quite a few options for what we do next
Though we'd prob need something to depower us in a sense since most stuff would prob feel basic by comparison now lol
no
we are still just a really strong fighter
90% of the insane shit we ahve pulled off is because of external help
We've beaten up ||zodiark, hydaelyn, and the endsinger|| so what would even compare in strength
But tbh we do have a lot of options atm
Everything from meracydia, all the other areas mentioned, and even other shards
i know of 2 areas we might be going to in 6.1 but if they are still standing.....
theyll probably be snippet zones, not the full thing
We're at least learning of the twelve with the alliance raids, but entire new zones prob won't happen for a while
closest things to zones we will get are hubs like the one in pandaemonium, stuff like terncliff and the like
and exploratory areas like bozja if we get another one of those
im sure the alliance raid and trial series will get at least one hub each
im still praying for four fiends
||we got 5 ascians unaccounted for still, and one of them could be dead||
||so that would be 4||
||pashtarot, halmarut, altima, and deudalaphon are still unaccounted for and likely alive||
||emmerololth is a bit iffy as its implied she(?) was raised after being killed kicking the isle of val into the lifestream but that could be an inconsistency||
imagine ||emmer requiring completion of Eureka and BA||
||perhaps for ex
||
Etymology
"Pashtarot" refers to the Scion of Light "Pashtarot, Knight-Star" referred to in the profile of Zeromus from Final Fantasy XII. thats an interesting funfact....
if we ever go back to ivalice, they might bring him up there
every convocation seat except azem (and altima, sort of) refers to a scion of light from xii
it doesnt mean much
Listen, if we can exist as some super OP god slaying nodding hot shot, there’s no reason to not expect more super OP god slaying nodding hot shots
Imagine if we go to New Worlds and they’re like “oh you beat Hydaelyn and Zodiark? Pity, we saw them as mere tools. Yeah Ascians tried their shit here too but we told them, they can do whatever, and we will survive regardless and kick their ass”
This could explain why they didn’t intervene in the end of days
Cause it posed them no danger lmao
forgive me but this would be really fucking dumb
Tbh I wonder... While yeah we ||killed zodiark in the source, what happened to the other fragments? Do they just disappear now or are they still able to remake another half strength zodiark||
i assume ||they just kinda dispersed, since the source was killed||
||same reason ascians never wanted to blow up the source as it would probably blow up the shards too||
we need someone to ||devise a way to stitch together a frankenzodiark from the surviving fragments||
what if we didnt do that
gotta tie that loose end somehow
14 Kars on Mars
how about ||"hey we killed the source so the shards died too"||
I figured that ||Anima basically gave the explanation of how Zodiark would be handled as well.||
The main part gone, the rest will be rendered useless. In the fight you can see parts of his body missing
Part of his limbs, torso, etc
Just like how if the source died, the reflections would die too
Tbh I really wanna see what mount we will get once we collect all the extreme mounts for EW
Since it's always the final reward mount that's the coolest
There were ||some severed arms and his waist.... not really anything they can do by themselves||
Eh
Kamuy of the Nine Tails would beg to differ on that
Also I doubt anything would top Landerwaffe
can we have smaller mount as a reward. maybe winged shoes since this is the ||hermes expac after all||
Damn someone actually had a cool idea for next arc
What if ||the 13th Shard of Azem got corrupted by the Darkness and became the ruler of the Void?||
Imagine fighting ||yourself but empowered and corrupted by the Darkness||
Um.... 1. Not how darkness works. 2. Did you not see the new years post?
What post? 
Also,it was something about rhe ||13th shard being flooded by darkness or something, that was the point ||
The annual New Years lodestone post, almost always has a poem that alludes to the upcoming story
Link?
Check #lodestone-news-na
The last line says “Unfettered from our trying past”
All but confirming Azem and the ancients don’t matter anymore
Doesn't necessarily mean ||azem can't be our evil twin BBEG affected by darkness on his shard||
It more implies no more ||ascians/ancients and any relevant plot points||
As for Darkness, it’s not evil, it itself can’t corrupt, it’s activity, those who are exposed to excessive amounts of darkness aether get starved of aether and constantly seek more
Like how light aether isn’t good
That's... pretty much concept wise the same thing 🤔
No.
You’re saying it’d basically turn a just soul into Diabolos
Someone who actively seeks destruction
Voidsents are literally just looking for food most of the time. Reaper Avatars feed on our aether and/or soul
Corruption means various things
Also the part with destruction v eating, the voidsent did literally the same thing but different reason
In terms of FATE, which area should I choose to level up from 80->81?
Thavnair or Labyrinthos
Thanks
Or just bozja
Unless you don't have it
Also the darkness in the void naturally corrupts people
Everyone saying how bloodwetting is best thing warrior got yet nascent flash healed pretty good too in shadowbringers
bloodwhetting is nascent flash with more mitigation
which in reality nascent flash is just a newer version of old bloodbath
I started in shb whats blood bath?
a lvl 12 trait 🤔
in arr:
Bloodbath (lvl 8): Converts 25% of your damage into healing
and at level 20 it got an upgrade to have a duration to 30 seconds
!action bloodbath
still screwed
might, do not get your hopes up, but there is a chance that it opens up on tuesday with the new patch
(EW MSQ zone 5 spoiler)
what do you call a bard that lives in ||the past, unsundered world?||
||elpis presley||

Savage out?
@glad maple tuesday
Oh ok ty
Anything else coming out along w the savage patch?
Oh and capped tomestones, duh
any idea when they're opening up the Land Sales for the new plots?
I'm sure if someone actually knew then I wouldn't have a chance anyway lol
the soonest we can say any land will be available at this time will be 6.1 when empyreum releases
no one has any idea when auto demo will be turned back on
(and the former is assuming empyreum releases in 6.1 as planned)
Tomestones, Excitatron 3000, job balance patch, new crafted gear, savage raid
How will maps work lore wise in eplis tho
maps have lore?
Can't wait for both the mommies to meet 
Duila chai needs to join
I wish
Why'd nobody tell my that you can claim the lvl 89 armor unlimted amounts of times, put all my three battlecraft retainers in them now 
Sure, actually getting the maps in Ultima Thule is fine, digging stuff up in Elpis is what breaks your immersion haha
I SMELL MILF OVERLOAD
imagine.... || if you visited the national funeral in the phys range jobquest as a reaper
||
Oh man, Ameliance would love Dulia Chai.
Alphinaud's mom and second mom.
i think
the range phys job quest teased the new job we get with 7.0
gosetsu uses it
oooorrr he might be just a doman whm....
yes he became a wandering monk but returns in the job quest
oh but it could be a new job. they call his staff a cane....so maybe hes not a doman whm but something new
taoist / daoist came to mind when i saw what he used in battle
or Ascet....he calls his healing arts "ascetian arts"
isn't ascetism just hermits?
But you could send the void sent to check up on them!
eh im happy about the ending as it was
so far
i cried over every job quest once again
really the sobwalker....
i've only done healer but i loved every bit of it
because it's just another one of those loose threads they tied up 
@urban phoenix id be surprised if they added another healer in 7.0
hrm true...next would be a tank...
meteion is my waifu




hermes finna beat yo ass
I click on the wrong fucking channel and this is what I see
Could be worse
We all would beat his ass tbh
We never should've stopped the final days
based as fuk
||Endsinger|| did nothing wrong.
Mfw my wife hops on PS4 with auto login on my profile and I get booted out of PS5. 😭
Back in queue now with 1.7k
am i the only who doesnt care bout the tank job quest
the gridanians have so many bad points i dont really can come up with concern for em
I liked the tank job quest more than the melee DPS one
Can’t say I have much sympathy for any of the city states except like the ala mhigan refugees tbh
yeah none of the 3 city states + ishgard are that great, each having their own unique problems,
have you been to ishgard
with the open racism and the "oh well some imaginary being said so so you better die if they say so" bs
meanwhile the leaders are....just incompetent really
the elementals arent imaginary, they can wipe out everyone should they so please
they ushered in the 6th umbral calamity, you dont want to anger them
we both know thats not true and the ascians did that
so far the elementals are just the kind of story made up to scare the common folks...like the bogey man. did they even ever do something oô
something tangible? cant remember
the elementals flooded eorzea bringing in the 6th umbral calamity because they had enough of the war of the magi
again thats what the people in the source believe
and their is nothing to really suggest the ascians influenced this war
but we as the player know its the work of the ascians who joined another shard with the source
well tell the writers of the game and encylopedia eorzea that they are wrong about the war of the magi and the elementals
its called making up a story while the rest isnt planned yet.....
i want you see making up background stories for a world as huge as ffxiv without any plotholes
whilst true the ascians prepped another shard for the rejoining, they did this based on what was happening in the source the incoming war that was causing the aether to go all whack
but it doesnt take away the fact the elementals caused the calamity due to the war of the magi
just because you dont like gridania doesnt mean you can ignore the entirety of the lore in game
eh i still have the impression it was made up with arr to prop plotholes
which in turn got bigger later on because it couldnt align with the overall story
funny thing is
they were present in 1.0 aswell, reinforcing the laws of the shroud and even took on forms as level 90+ creatures that were guarding certain places
you never hear of em again outside off arr
and also appear in the conjurer questline
oh really?
i never played whm so
but its still all arr stuff
kinda a shame they didnt have the means or time? to spin that plot line further
but who knows
maybe they clean it up next?
well they did withdraw a bit after the 7th umbral calamity as it did have an effect on them, but how much we dont know, and its not worth genocide to find out
oi cmon elliot its not like the elementals exist in irl....that sounds kinda weird now
i mean, if we are to anger them, and they kill everyone in the shroud it wouldnt look good no matter what anyone thinks of gridania
and greenwrath is not the way you'd want to go out
its also why gelmorra was built underground the duskwights didnt want to deal with that shit iirc
and even without ascian influencing calamities and rejoinings could still be a possibility
well its just aether going whack on the source and another shard at the same time
but aether doesnt go whack just like that
some hard labour is needed to make it go whack
causing the aether of the shard to join with the aether on the source to stabilise it so to speak
im pretty sure in the war of the magi that the ascians didnt have to do shit on the source for that, but they did take advantage and prepped a shard whilst that was going on, but i will have to brush up my understanding on that war to confirm or not, as the elementals were the tipping point for the source to be ready
the war broke out for "unclear reasons" now that could be a number of reasons, maybe ascians did something, maybe it was just a myriad of other problems with one thing to tip it over the edge, but either way a lot of shit went down, like the plague being created that transformed the nymians into tonberries and diablos being sealed away
i probably flatline totally like i did on the first 2
fair enough
i dont think mhach suddenly did as wacky shit as it did with 0 ascian involvement
5 am here
water spells arent naturally weaker or anything, they just chose not to use them
im pretty sure that may have been coerced
fun fact water i seen as one of the weakest if not the weakest element in many games....mostly useful for healing
maybe, maybe not, its just not to clear what the causes and the tipping point was
and im like "bruh....60% of the human body are made of water...what are you talking about?"
anyway imma sleep
happy hunting
What about the fact that it happened
Of course the Ascians had a hand in it 
It caused a Calamity
That means ||the Ascians had to carefully line up a water-heavy shard to coincide with the tipping point||
I mean, it wasn't just the elementals.
It was the Black and White Mages going ham against each other that tipped the aetherial balance toward water.
Mhach also has all the hallmarks of an Ascian-handled civilization.
i mean ||panda|| looks to be basically mhach, so
Astonishing advancements in technology and magics, imperialistic tendencies, a thirst for power and the desire to use it...
It's basically Allag or Garlemald but with more Lalas and more magic over alien tech.
i'm gonna guess fandaniel had a part to play in mhach
I just find the image of Emet building Mhach as a Lalafell hilarious.
It probably didn't happen since Mhach also had Hyur and Elezen.
But it's still a funny thought.
yeah but i mean i dont think the ascians had much a hand in getting the war started on the source, ofc they had to prep the other shard for it to work, they were just taking advantage of what was already happening
Probably safe to assume that if the potential for a huge war existed, the Ascians got involved.
Allagans
Ancients
Ascians
Aether
The 4 A’s of FFXIV
Anime
Ascians
Ascias
Ascis
Ascs
Ass
!faq juicy
feel like the 89 dungeon should be put under expert and level 90 dungeons later
It's one im not going to mind into getting lot over shadowbringers .9 dungeon
dammit cleve, i'm a godslayer, not a fishmonger
finally finished EW, gonna listen to ||Close in the Distance and cry ||ok bye
|| I did that after
||

whats the best way to level up from 83-90 aside from fate farming and roulletes/WT?
I see people leveling in zadnor a lot with jobs past 80
I'm finishing up jobs to get to 80. Then going to do dungeons. Since new dungeons are pretty cool. And they give lots of XP
not possible to run 81+ dungeons in trust avatar mode?
@late willow this is you
holy shit ma dude.. i did that and listen to ||flow||
The best part is how the song references every expansion in the lyrics
||flow is gonna be the lullaby ill sing to my kids
||
||It's hard as hell to sing though. So many high notes...||
its has very opera flair to it lol
||im just gonna sing it within my range as best I can||
||And moped about it for most of the expac
||
||endwalker is just the existential crisis of being brought back to life||
||moral of the story if you die don’t come back to life||
Sicard was a stand out character this expac he’s tight
Limsa role quest really shows they don't have enough side characters to feature...
I liked the Limsa side quest
Lyse ||in endwalker is based I love her||
||she even gives a nice speech in the ilsabard contingent cutscene that’s character development 😤||
Does she?
Yea
||it’s the one where she talks about how garleans were humans just like the rest of them and every started clapping I was so proud of her 😭||
||it’s before you make it to Garlemald in the lochs||
Funny what not being in a spotlight of an expac gets you
the Ilsabard contingent was great overall
i like how the ||secondary reps from each country got their airtime, instead of the usual leaders||
Yea it was a great decision
I said it before but Garlemald was the best individual zone story they ever did
I'm half tempted to watch the cutscene again and see if it doesn't reflect on all the quest progression
I know for certain that the one cutscene in Sharlayan is effected by quest progression for sure
But realistically you could just look in the book and see if it has a quest progression icon next to it— if it doesn’t then you know it wouldn’t change
And that's what I fear
???
Look I don't want the pain of seeing all the characters that I met through all the jobs not be there/greet the wol for the first time
You mean || right before you go to Garlemald? ||
I just want NG+ so I can do the stuff directly after that cutscene || in the palace with everyone || again
Ye
I think they patched that to make it significantly more forgiving tho
man i really dislike the tank jobquest
we had this conversation about 14 hours ago , about you not liking gridania
nah nother reason now tbh
It’s pretty cool
Ngl
My only problem with it so far is
||kan e senna going nah bro trust me like 5 times when people have genuine concern||
so far id say the worst is the phys ranged
I liked the melee one so I’ll probably like all of em
reaaaally?
I should finish up tank then do physical ranged
i really liked the phys ranged one
what i dont like about the tank one is
they dont learn anything
they dont reflect
they are just like "oh lets use a even greater supernatural power to bruteforce our will"
i still have to do the healer and melee one
im workin on that now Xd
I just finished realm reborn! Cannot wait to start the next expansion 😄
I liked the tank and caster and healing one, I think by them showing cutscenes on ala mhigo and ishgard that they intended those to be the most important ones
The tank one in gridania from what it seems like is addition to kanna and gridania lore rather than focusing on the final days itself tbh, but the tank is fine imo(also the fact that paladin was the class they wanted everyone to play which is also a bit weird considering the role quest didnt have as much impact as the magic/healer roles), i have not tried phys and melee but judging from what im hearing, I hope its not that bad
It does feel like the caster and healer quests were more focused on the Final Days, than the rest. Where they were simply something occuring in the background.
This is the spoiler channel for the most current expansion so I would suggest not hanging out here until you finish shadowbringers
I have yet to even start the tank quests but personally, I'd rank them as healer > caster > melee > ranged
They're all good for different reasons though. Don't get me wrong.
Gotcha, ill do em and see whats up, and tank is good imo
Oops thought I posted this in beginners chat 😅 thankyou!
I didn’t like the melee job quest at all lol..
At the beginning it was okay and then it just wasn’t enjoyable to me
Tank one was fairly good though
Yeah so when she stops being as involved it’s like “oh okay hi guys whatever”
I'm just in awe every time she's involved in a quest because I know she'll just do something extremely cool.
Lmao she’s just a badass tbh
You guys ever have a job you like mechanically, but hate the spell effects or sounds?
Nope
not so much hate but whm's afflatus misery is underwhelming af
Sage's kit feels good to use, at least so far in dungeons, but the spell sounds are not my favorite hah
if you aint max level yet, the sounds do all change
so you might like the higher level sounds
(or you may hate them, alas)
Only sound I actually hate is chaotic spring
Chaotic spring sounds ridiculously stupid
The 2nd extreme (the one with weapon) looks hard, but what is the difficulty of it? Is it manageable to clear within a few practice parties?
I dunno how to answer this honestly. If you play well, you'll clear with ease.
It's harder than the first extreme, but it's still relatively easy to clear with some practice
Everything below ultimate is designed to give you time to learn how mechanics are resolved. From there it's up to you to figure out how to do them without dying. It's not hard, it's a learning process.
I'm at 85, dps spell effects are at their cap. They aren't as annoying as the first two ranks thankfully. The heals sound weird to me too.
But sage spells just irk me a bit. It's the same with drk's weird lightsaber sounds.
It's the thing that bugs me about the job but the kit is nice and fluid with ogcds I like.
what the CHRIST did EW do to blm
Fixed it
enochian maybe but what the hell did they do to freeze
I don't know I haven't leveled blackmage yet but I I heard some annoying parts are gone
You use freeze to get umbral hearts for flare
It's worse than ShB but better than HW and SB
shb was perfection
pew pew pew pew
literally the only thing it wouldve needed is that enochian trait
also anything is better than sb tbh
“blm is yoshidas baby surely they wont remove anything”
now you use 2 whole fire 2s in the aoe rotation
Hey, at least you can use flare when synced low
Do we ||still have the blessing of light with mommy gone now?||
I mean it did for papalymo
He also had to like constantly keep that up though right
||it's a traveler's ward really - something venat created before hydaelyn is a thing so i doubt it would just disappear||
Yeah, he probably did
When the hell will the ||azem crystal be written out||
||Never, we'll wear it||
||the WoL trips and falls and clutches the azem crystal summoning 7 of the universes most powerful heroes||
|| pandemonium does show the memories of the crystal can fade out so I’m not that worried||
||tbf that was a crystal that's been in aetherial sea for so long||
Oh that’s true
they probably would keep it mostly as a plot point ||after emet just told us to do our job so we'd probably go back to asking help from our adventurer friends and have azem's crystal as a back up for major fights we needed friends right away||
||Azem crystal is just a permanent party||
So... i've always wondered... what happens to the people summoned by Azem's crystal?
Do we send them back where they came from? Or do they walk back after we're done using them?
Imagining teleporting across great distances, or across reflections, to fight the ||Endsinger at the edge of the universe||... and you're stuck there now... oops
the funny thing about the final zone is that i tried hard as i could to sprint the whole way through because of muh immersion, but i couldnt do that and soak it in, so i had to do it in two parts... to say nothing about the absurdity of ||leaving most of the scions in bleeding limbo and the Twins staring at the crystal bridge as i fucked off to do dailies and handle stuff back on eorzea|| there's also the fact of just jumping to and fro with ||Ragnarok|| just sitting there...
and then lo and behold ||this Jammingway fellow just waves that thing with Ragnarok|| off, but only after the fact lmao
Azem's crystal is a job crystal, and you are actually just an Ancient version of SMN
But like, who is ||Azem||
me :)
I finsihed EW, and I dont remember meeting them
just that ||Venat's old role was Azem||
but why does everyone think you are ||azem's familiar||
||and your the part of the sundered azem||
||sundered azem?||
|| you know what sundering is ?||
||So we are a shard of Azem?||
||we are part of azem thats why our aether looks like azem and why the ancients assumed your his familiar||
its like how ||amon was a sundered fandaniel||
||But Venat stepped down, and there was a new Azem... that's where I get confused. Even when we first arrive, emet selch and hythlodaeus think you're Azems familiar, but theyre like "Oh Azem isn't here" and they say Venat was the old Azem||
yes there is ||another azem we havent met there||
||you know that azem is just a title ?||
||like how emet selch is just a title and his real name is hades||
||Wonder if the other Azem is the weird person you see in a short clip at the end, but that seemed like a man and they refer to Azem as a woman, so idk||
Oh okay
||that person had elidbus voiceactor fyi||
||Azem's gender is whatever your character's gender is||
||and you can find out about them in the raid series right now||
Ah okay, I still have to do that
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PANDÆMONIUM
simply incredible. i was wondering about a Restaurant at the End of the Universe reference the first time i got to that place but now postgame they're clearly gonna actually build the damn thing over the next patches.
Probably gonna be a beast tribe
I'm giving an EX a go and I just wanna say fuck these meteors I swear it must be ping dependant lol I hit sprint and everything
just bring a scholar 4head
Which fight is meteors?
||On Azem. The question is if they mean Venat or the current Azem. Because surely we would have some kind of spiritual similarity with Venat given our connection, or do they mean current Azem? That would mean that Venat chose us, or Azem as a worthy champion, even if we were just a sliver of their soul, or 9/14ths if thats right. Which would make us similar to Fandaniel or Amon in a way.||
||Unless Im missing something and am being dumb which is most the time||
the latter
||Like Venat retired, so when they call it an Azem crystal, and keep referring to Azem, it just confused me. Because actual Azem is someone we never met. Venat is just post-Azem, as it were. I know it is the title, not the person, so why is Venat still connected to Azem if she is retired? It just isn't as clear or maybe I wasnt paying attention. The multiple names for the people confused me a lot. And then theres different races. Theres the ancients, the ascians, and modern people. I guess I needed an ELI5 somewhere in the story, if its really not that confusing to others. ||
||well, i mean, she was current azem's mentor||
||So is it implying the power is in the role of Azem, and once you've attained that role, you're forever tied to it||
||Ascians aren't a race btw, they're moreso a death cult group than anything else. They can pick up lackeys as any sundered individual||
you mean with the crystal?
||well there is the Azem crystal, and then everyone kept saying you were Azem's familiar, because your aether looked like hers.||
|| How could our aether/soul/whatever be Azem's if we were made by Venat, who is no longer Azem||
||with the crystal, it refers to Venat's successor. so every time it's referred, it's normally talking about that. also, we just told everyone we are because that's the best way to explain our circumstance without having people ask questions on why we're awfully like azem||
we weren't made
||what, we werent made by venat||
||we are just a reincarnation of whoever azem was at the time of the sundering||
|| we are the sundered soul of the sitting azem, we have the blessing of hydaelyn (venat) ||
||Venat just gives us the Blessing of Light, we weren't made by anyone besides being born||
||and whenever she refers to all of us as her children, it's more of hydaelyn acting like everyone's mom because she's the reason we exist like that||
||okay, we werent made by them, but they still act like we were in Elpis||
||because at the very start, we were told to tell everyone we're Azem's familiar. it's outlandish enough that people would believe it if it's Azem||
||we were pretending to be current azems familiar, venat has nothing to do with that||
|| and since hythae and emet can see peoples souls, and we are the sundered azem, they think we are a familiar ||
||if anything Venat outed us
||
|| our aether was thin enough comparatively to the ancients so that we could just be considered a familiar ||
hmm, it seems like people recognized ||us as Azem's familiar before being introduced, but maybe im wrong||
||no we dont, as that would made no sense as no other race exsited really back then||
||We feel similar to Azem, and Azem apparently does whack things like having a very sapient and incredibly capable familiar||
cough volcano story cough
Wonder if we will ever meet Azem
no reason to
why not, if theyre so important ||and we made from their sundered soul or whatever||
they havent already so we never will
azem is not important anymore
the HvZ arc is done
azem means nothing
|| Elidibus specifically told us to not do anything that would alter history ||
|| so when emet recognized our soul as azem's we just took the role of his familiar ||
||Azem means nothing, but the Azem crystal is literally part of what saves everyone||
||now like the 2 people who cared we were azem are dead, their is no reason to meet azem, plus from what hyth says no one really knows where he is atm so its about a 0% chance of meeting||
||i still think there's some way unsundered Azem would know about us. With the raid and all...||
i should do the raid
me too lol
im just too lazy to grind out the stuff to get to the ilvl requirement
you should do the raid
because it puts into question all this about meeting Azem 
also, more pretty eyes 
whats the ilvl requirement
565
Oh, doesn't seem too bad
only reason i remembered is because one time i got stuck at 564
of poetics or others?
High ilvl rings you can only get with tomes or EXs rn
I been grinding for tomes forever
No the tomes you get from using a max lvl character on synced content
synced content?
So lvl 90s on roulettes
you don't have to
Should probably do them, what's your job?
not unless you want to dye your job gear
Wait are we talking role quests or job quests lol
i have the tank one and the ranged dps one unlocked
role quest
Yea you don't need to do them then
yeah, you don't have to
They're just there for story and AF gear dye
oh, then how do I do the lvl 90 roulettes
Beat the MSQ for Expert Roulette
You need to do the extra dungeons
Blue quests in Sharlayan iirc
ohh
okay!
good, because I dont wanna do role quests lol
I will probably do them to unlock the dye thing
but ugh
Inb4 future content needs you to do them all for the super secret special questline
Dang
Caster and Healer were the best role quests for ShB though
Missed best girl Giott
oh
idk why, I just didnt care, maybe it was a good story, but it was uninteresting to me
healer on EW is good too. ties up that plot thread nicely 
giott story is really nice
ShB role quest was mostly uncovering the story of Ardbert's companions
I was just like, wanting to get on with MSQ
and they were stopping me
so I did them saltily
lol
What's the fastest way to reach 100% on DoH spiritbond? I'm level 90 and I want to earn some gil but I don't know which process is the best
ya know, one thing i hope they update is the night skybox
because pretty sure they can afford to do so now
I like to think my twitter is funny sometimes https://twitter.com/zmcadler/status/1477863994299846656?s=20
@native delta needed more thancred but a good start
Also guitar riffs
can you find fourchenault after the msq?
||He’s near the Aporia aetheryte in Labyrinthos.||
thx
But I hear youuuu
i wept like....
3 days straight because of that song
Our journey, now a memory fading from sight
But I Seeeeee youuuuuuuuuuu
Don't worry I bring happy times.
T H E G R E A T C A T A C L Y S M F A I T H F U L L Y R E C R E A T E D
Is 11 good
old
Well whatever it is I bought it so it's going to be fun I hope baby
it's from a different era of MMORPGs
before the evil of wow took over
So weird question, do we know what we're getting next maintenance tomorrow ? Savage raids ?
I've heard people say stuff about keeping maps for after this maint so I guess there's somethign there ?
shame
no follow up after the job quests
They where all good besides the tank one....devs must have been out of steam
or maybe, you'll simply have to wait
the full resolution of the ShB role quests didn't happen until 5.2 and the follow-up void quests
6.05 adds the weekly capped tomestones, new gear that you can buy with them, the savage raids, crafting recipes for the new highest ilvl of crafted gear, and a new treasure map dungeon
savage raids, ilvl 580 crafted gear, and portals appear for the lvl 90 maps. LOTS of gil to be made from them.
basically the real end-game progression starts tomorrow
its only 5 hours long thankfully
So crafted 580 tomorrow
Why do The current ex trails then
I started both of them yesterday for the first time and cleared the first one. Cba doing the second one if I can just craft a weapon
glamses
They don't even glow
Because they’re both super easy trials and u can gear up like 4 classes in 30 minutes
Okay
I hope crafted is going to be unique
Is crafted not as good as trial 2 ex wep? But equal when penta'd?
they've been around for a month, have different substats from the crafted, and dont cost any gil
we dont know yet
Its a lot more effort to me to go through penta meld
it'll depend on what gear gets what substats
some crafted may be better than the ex with no melds
some may be worse even when pentamelded
Easy trials, better substats possibly
Because cool weapon
You have technically 3 sets of accessories to choose from with substats
And 2 weapons
3 if you choose to wait 6 more weeks
tell that to Crystal PF, ive only done 4 clears with about 45 runs
When you get to like 5% but people die stupid
Like most people not spreading into light party Stacks after the 8th man stack
Greed is real at low boss hp%
what , which EX ? cant be EX 1 rite
I still don’t understand what greed is
15 of those runs were yeah lol
Taking damage and disregarding shit you should do in order to do more damage yourself. That and taking risks like "that wont kill me probably" or tunnel visioning
aka High risk high return .
“Sure I might get hit by the bad, but my damage”
Essentially going for big dps at the risk of failing a mechanic
Do you guys think that || Gaius || will rejoin the main plot at any point going forward? Disappointed to not see the character in Endwalker
probably, at least he was there for a little bit and explained why he wasnt in the garlemald part
suprised he didnt show up in any of the role quests
isnt he helping that one country he once ruled and that was ruined by that other guy?
why dig up old bones if they tried to finish it with 6.0
werlyt? that werent ruined by anyone else but gaius
valens if thats who im thinking you are talking about hasnt touched werlyt
eh wasnt gaius known for having a merciful hand?
no
he didnt force peeps to fight for garlemald
and let people rise ranks on ability not background
he did, anyone that was non garlean was forced to fight, look at all the ala mhigo conscripts
that was there under his rule
that was under zenos
no
yes
zenos was there barely a year, gaius was there for 20 years
its said not only once that he didnt force the ala mhigans who didnt want to fight
they had a shitty life for sure
but he didnt force em into the frontline
if they werent forced to fight they wouldnt be called conscripts
you can conscript people for more than just battle
gaius wasnt ever merciful, the only legatus that came close to that was garbranth, and thats cause he fucked off to create his own nation
also having people rise ranks due to ability was not anything only gaius did, both gabranth and zenos had high ranking non garleans, with both of those 2 having way more non garlean officers than gaius



Ty I’m saving this
Zenos de Boomer

I also have this version, but as it's towards the end of the MSQ I haven't used it, lol
great scene tho 
I dont remeber it looking like this
time of the day isn't fixed for the meal scene
except no clears and about 14 atempts
It looked like this because of all my tears
heh
it really do be that way
shes sipping a cup of nin tears

Lmfao
||Just make sure to talk to Urianger for silly drunk Urianger.||
Is there a WHM staff like the ||Hermes staff?||
||The caduceus staff would be perfect for my Doctor glamour||
Not from what I can see
does anyone know what the title of the song at phase 1 at trial 3? the medley one
I don't think we know, yet. Unless I'm wrong?
We don’t have an orchestrion roll for it, so...
Biggest Fattest Tacos
Yeah we’ll probably get it in 6.1 when the ex comes out
Any patch notes Yet?
Nope
Have to wait for the maintenance to start in 6 hours
And then usually the patch notes go up within the first hour or two of maintenance
not too sure on pld buff (if any tank drk would get it) but expect rpr nerf if not here than in .1
i heard the ew msq is underwhelming compared to shb. is it as least better than sb?
Rpr needs a buff pret bad
all up to your own personal experience. art do be like that
I loved it personally
endwalker is my favorite part of my favorite game ever but of course that doesnt have to be the same for you
And I'd personally put it above ShB but as emerald said it all comes down to personal preference
So if u in the end enjoyed ShB more that's 100% valid
shb is probably """better""", whatever that means, but endwalker resonated with me more on a personal level
i can relate to the themes of shb a lot less than i can ew
I'm with you
Plus I hated the purple trees of lakeland
Everything about EW was great bar Loloporis
Okay fair
I enjoyed pretty much all of Shadowbringers, but although Endwalker was also good, it had some very skippable parts.
EW > SHB but thats mostly because I still have the other expansions fresh in my mind
I'm debating whether to farm white scrips for folklore tomes or purple scrips for materia.
How much will each master recipe cost? I want to know how much scripts I need to save
800 each, I think?
That then.
i think the general consensus was bank white scrips assuming they could cost as much as 2000
White scrips? Not purple?
White Scrips.
yeah, precedent says it will be white scrips
again, nothing can be said for certain, they could do anything, but it should be white scrips if they do the same as before
there should be more stuff to buy tomorrow with purple scrips anyway
Time to buy materia I guess....
so they wont go to waste
Farming white scrips from cero.... I wasted hours gathering and crafting collectables thinking i'd need purple scrips
look at material costs for old collectibles
if you can find something that's easy to craft at level 80 or below, you can spam craft it with Trained Eye
So they will add new stuff to buy with purple scrips as well?
Yes.
Hopefully it will be worth my hours wasted.... Should have asked first
don't worry, there will be materials you need to buy with your purple scrips for the new master recipes
so the purples you've spent time getting will be useful
Does anyone have a link to the updated patch/event timeline?
it's just that you will indeed have to get white scrips instead for the recipe books
Hopefully it will be like that
Historically food / pots use purple mats afair
when deez patch notes go up?
Is there any news regarding cross dc travel?
it'll happen soon(tm)
Sometime during maintenance
Pupperfilla
omg lol
I actually think they might give warrior slight potency buffs
bloodwhetting now benes everyone for 25s
I mean I get our healing is strong but our dps is only a fraction of the power we had in heavenward.we aren't fully back to the glory days yet





