retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[fringe adder]

Wait, whose crystal is that again?

[wheat night]

Someday

[haughty crater]

Item Level Requirement Average item level 565 or above

[wheat night]

The 89 gear already gets you pretty close

[sand tiger]

so I could do two raids back to back (humour me here) without a lockout as long as I don't win a roll?

[keen osprey]

In the case of Tank and mDPS role quest, idk why they need our role specifically? Maybe a Tank to ||protect all the healers in Gridania||, and a mDPS ||to shoot down a flying dragon?||

[haughty crater]

@rose arch

[wheat night]

Err 90 tome

[vital timber]

My favorite by far is actually the Caster role quests ||because it tied up one final loose end related to the Holy See and how Aymeric resolved the matter||

[weary yoke]

yes

[sand tiger]

that's fair.

[humble heron]

I dont think we know for sure, but it might well be ||elidibus||

[rose arch]

i cry, im only 560

[keen osprey]

Just do some expert roulettes daily and buy tome gear

[weary yoke]

tomestone gear is 570. do a few trains or expert roulettes

[wheat night]

Isn't the story about the other baddie

[keen osprey]

while doing those expert roulettes, u can also grab any accessories u're missing

[fringe adder]

Maybe Elidibus crystal becoming a plug and play plot device to time travel whenever

[rose arch]

trains?

[haughty crater]

@rose arch tomestone for sure, the EX trials are a bit hard

[floral idol]

you can run the raids as much as you want

[wheat night]

Hunt trains

[weary yoke]

hunt trains, killing A-ranks

[obsidian pagoda]

Seems to be Lahabread's

[keen osprey]

by now most people already got their i560 accessories, so spamming those roulettes u're likely to greed even accessories u don't need

[floral idol]

there's no cap to many times you can enter the raids

[fringe adder]

oof

[rose arch]

i was about to clear||hyd|| ex but my internet pooped and the queue was 5k lol

[haughty crater]

im 575 which I think is the cap unless theres a way to get a second ring

[sand tiger]

I mean for the item progression. but sure, you can.

[wheat night]

575 is cap iirc

[vital timber]

I do not know why Ishgard needed a Caster specifically for it's role quest. But with Gridania and|| the Tank quests, it's understandable in the end: you were meant to protect Kan-E-Senna as she communes with the tree for the power needed to quell the elementals and to vanquish the blasphemy. ||

[haughty crater]

I saw a dungeon party listed as 576 but I cant tell if he was PLD or just memeing

[floral idol]

It's 4 circles, so 4 tokens total a week

That you can earn

[obsidian pagoda]

Either his or Emmerololth. The lighting kinda makes it look different

[humble heron]

I mean they said it would involve lahabreadbasket so its prob his then

[vital timber]

That is a possibility

We have no seen all the members of the Convocation

[haughty crater]

edgewalker

[vital timber]

I think we are missing 1 or 2 or them.

[wheat night]

Wonder what we'll be fighting

[floral idol]

If it's like previous raid tiers, then circle 1 is accessories/feet/hands? and most likely final 4th circle is armor token.

[wheat night]

They listed the exchange

[tribal summit]

mfw I found a typo in the patch notes

[weary yoke]

"Upon completing Asphodelos: The Fourth Circle, players can also earn an unsung blade of Asphodelos once per week"

right there in the patch notes...

[haughty crater]

those are the spooky chips, WoL has a bunch of them iirc. Or did he give them away at some point

[vital timber]

I never played FF2 so I have no reference to go on.

[floral idol]

Uh yeah, but I'm talking about rolling on the Body token.

[vital timber]

All I know is that Pandaemonium is the domain of the Emperor in that game

[floral idol]

So what I'm saying here is

[weary yoke]

roll on the tokens you want. pass on the tokens you don't want

[floral idol]

Floors 1-3 will drop those unsung rings->chausses

[wheat night]

Little point in speculating

[fringe adder]

What is the ilvl supposed to be of the gear?

[floral idol]

have you done previous raid tiers???

lmao

[fringe adder]

580?

[weary yoke]

580 probably

[haughty crater]

580 for normal, all armor pieces and a ring upgraded in-line with EX trials!

[humble heron]

I wish i could get a guaranteed 570 ring from 90 dungeons

[fringe adder]

Oh so even accesories?

[gaunt star]

Did they fix the servers situation in any way with the new patch? don't see anything about it

[wheat night]

They did last week

[haughty crater]

no only a ring

[humble heron]

They are fixing 2002

[wheat night]

They fixed 2002

[weary yoke]

they didn't magic servers out of thin air with the patch. but they did (hopefully) fix 2002s

[haughty crater]

(the second ring)

[wheat night]

I haven't had it at all since their fix

[deep marsh]

I haven't got a 2002 since last week so they seemed to fix it, or i'm just lucky

[weary yoke]

I got one last week

[wheat night]

They have a breakdown of the details on lodestone

[fringe adder]

I've gotten plenty of 90006 during cutscenes

[haughty crater]

EX1 is the source of 580 accessories

[fringe adder]

I hope they fixed that

[fringe adder]

Yeah I farmed EX1 for accessories, EX2 almost a clear

[hoary cobalt]

The meme is dead ||An issue wherein the polygon count of grapes in Labyrinthos were reduced in excess to alleviate system memory usage in the area.||

[haughty crater]

EX2 was a lot easier imo

[humble heron]

Rip grapes

[wheat night]

That was so 20 minutes ago

[hoary cobalt]

I just got back :/

[fringe adder]

It's fine for me up to ||chakrams|| without issues

[haughty crater]

Just need to rotate on time and remember theres an ability after

good time to sprint imo

[wheat night]

The 87 ex fight dropped my weapon first clear in my coffer

That was the one clear I did

Based

[humble heron]

But what if i dont believe in the concept of circles

[haughty crater]

I passed on the coffer my first kill cause I did so badly I thought I didnt deserve it

But I got it on my second one

[deep marsh]

if you do badly 10 times you can get one anyways

[vital timber]

I still have yet to do that Trial.

Too focused on the 1st one for the mount. XD

[wheat night]

87 is a better trial than 83 tbh

[wind bough]

An issue wherein the polygon count of grapes in Labyrinthos were reduced in excess to alleviate system memory usage in the area.

• They have been adjusted to be comparable to those found at the Crystarium.

[haughty crater]

Nahh I got it down eventually just gotta remember that the fight tries to trick you since crystallize is used in multiple ways

[humble heron]

Oh i guess i dont need to worry about savage tokens, huh, because i get back home on the 31st and by that point ill just wait for capped tomestone/crafted

[wheat night]

Inb4 labryinthos crashing due to system memory

[haughty crater]

I need to learn about EX1's line mechanic still even though I have a full set of accessories

[humble heron]

Thatll mean i dont have to grind to 565

[haughty crater]

I suck at the lines

[wheat night]

The lines are ez

[deep marsh]

@haughty crater https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/rfnxtu/i_made_a_guide_for_a_certain_ex_trial_mechanic_to/

[haughty crater]

my brain just cant understand how they relate spatially

[wheat night]

The lines mean that there's only two possible solutions

[humble heron]

I wonder if you can reaper teleport through the lines

[wheat night]

Probably not

[humble heron]

Fun to think about

[haughty crater]

even that image hurts my head

[vital timber]

Beet soup has been changed as well

[sand tiger]

every time I read "RPR" and "fun to think about" in the same sentence I get ptsd of new RPR melee players who just stand in AOEs as if they were tanks about to invul.

[haughty crater]

When im doing the fight I always think of "safe spots" and each mechanic cuts off a section of "safe spots"

But the lines they just dont fit into the puzzle 😦

[wheat night]

Yes, that is the mechanic

That the safe spots aren't as safe as they normally would be

His diagonal attack does the same thing

[sand tiger]

"think with turntables"

[wheat night]

Essentially what this means is that you stand on the far side of where the line will be, or you stand on the other side of the line before it moves

It just depends on if you're dealing with snakes or something else

[haughty crater]

waffle irons and turn tables

[weary yoke]

it's amazing how people either breeze through the 90-degree-turn or can't do it at all

there's no inbetween

[sand tiger]

"all of turns tables to my will"

[wheat night]

It's just geometry and spatial reasoning

[haughty crater]

The line is the only one I cant recognize without stopping my rotation

[wheat night]

The snakes thing too is easy once you know the pattern

[sand tiger]

tbf, that pic above would be a lot more understandable as a sequential gif

[haughty crater]

Like what if it spins the other direction??

[vital timber]

Okay, looks like the character naming service is back

[weary yoke]

then do the 90-degree turn the other way

[sand tiger]

yes

[wheat night]

If it's on 1 and 3 on the left side, then if it rotates counterclockwise, it will be on columns 2 and 4. But if it spins clockwise, it will be in columns 1 and 3

[sand tiger]

finally.

[vital timber]

or rather, will be back when the patch comes. 🙂

[haughty crater]

But if it spins the other way then your safe spots are reversed

[sand tiger]

now my badass highlander isn't called "Furpaw Sweetsnuggles" any longer.

[wheat night]

Right

[vital timber]

former-hrothgar, eh?

[sand tiger]

yes.

[wheat night]

That's why it's tricky, because you need to react on the fly to where the sneks will be

[vital timber]

same.

then I went viera

[sand tiger]

He had a good life. But I had to put him down.

[vital timber]

I was thinking of keeping the name for my viera. Have him "adopt" the name of his mentor as a way to keep his legacy alive.

[wheat night]

But this is actually not that much harder in the second phase, since there will be glyphs or other mechanics that only have two possible solutions

[gleaming bough]

Bruh

[wheat night]

Which make it much easier to learn

[weary yoke]

the mechanic that threw me off in that trial was the starfall. it was resolving backward from how I was envisioning it

[sand tiger]

fuck no. the sweetsnuggles line must die out. they commited countless atrocities.

[vital timber]

Either that or I change the surname to something fitting.

[haughty crater]

That was a very unique quest but im not sure if I liked it

[wheat night]

I saw it described as a mirror and I got it

[vital timber]

Not for a viera, but for an adventurer fit for Limsa Lominsa

[haughty crater]

I breezed through it personally but I was veryyyy cheesy with what I aggro'd and didnt

[weary yoke]

once I realized that the whiteboard was falling onto the platform I figured out the safe spots

[wheat night]

But that can be a tricky mechanic too because if you don't pick the correct location for the second step, you'll get an instant kill meteor because you can't run two tiles

Nevermind the three lasers part

That was a fun one

[haughty crater]

The spin did that to me, I thought it would go the other way for my first 10 pulls

waffle irons and turn tables

[wheat night]

Just appoint a danger dorito

[haughty crater]

I get the V shape thing for the fire, that makes sense

I get the laser beams of death, those arent fun

I even get the spinny spin spin

So why do I suck at lines

[sand tiger]

bro. lines are hard.

[wheat night]

The snake lines?

[fringe adder]

They couldn't handle Bozja jump in popularity

[haughty crater]

Yeah exactly

[wheat night]

I just explained it

[sand tiger]

I mean, it made Bozja unplayable for its intended purpose.

[next quarry]

and the exp from dungeons were just bad, better to just do fates or bozja

[deep marsh]

If they couldn't handle it they would of nerfed the xp above 80, this change is for people who prefer to dng grind instead of fates

[next quarry]

well at least at 87+ dungeons were better

[fringe adder]

I did roulettes after 87

It became unbearable to keep doing Bozja after 87

[jade relic]

I think this change is for people going through msq for the first time, so they can do the whole story just off msq

[fringe adder]

You look familiar

[jade relic]

No side quests or aether current hunting needed

[peak spoke]

so reading these notes, am I to understand for normal raids we get a coffer and thus cannot control what type of token we loot and thus what gear we target or do I have it wrong?

[weary yoke]

you roll on the coffer you want

[wheat night]

MSQ was very bipolar on their exp

[peak spoke]

oh so the coffers will show the type of gear?

[sand tiger]

with the "levelers" clogging up the instances, it became quite hard to find randoms to do castrum grind. or grind clusters.

[wheat night]

I had to do a few side quests at one point but another I was way ahead

[weary yoke]

say a ring and a helm token drop, but you already have the helm, pass on the helm, roll on the ring

[jade relic]

Yes

Little symbol on it

[deep marsh]

Castrum can be done with 8 people, you don't need an entire zone there to do it

[peak spoke]

ok thanks that makes sense based on the way they described it I thought that there was just one coffer type

[next quarry]

when they say treasure coffers they mean the chest you open at the end of the instance

[sand tiger]

I know that. but levelers were queueing up for it, having no clue what they were doing.

[fringe adder]

What would crafted gear be then like, also 580?

[weary yoke]

crafted gear isn't coming tonight

that's 6.0.5?

[next quarry]

yes

[haughty crater]

I was like 3 levels ahead for the entire EW expansion

[jade relic]

When it comes it will probably be 580, but there will prob be 600 gear by then

[haughty crater]

without doing any side stuff

[next quarry]

yes savage releases at the same time

[wheat night]

I fell behind at 87 by like 500k xp, which was weird

[fringe adder]

but isn't 600 gear reserved for savage?

[peak spoke]

speaking of crafted gear, as someone who is all in on crafting since this expansion, any specific prep recommended beyond having all DoH 570?

[weary yoke]

the only side stuff I did on MSQ was the aether currents/6 shared fates for ground mount speed. no issues at all finishing at time and on-level

[jade relic]

I believe so, is savage 6.05 or 6.1?

[weary yoke]

savage is 605

[queen eagle]

Female Hrothgar coming in a few months, after hroth hair is added

[sand tiger]

that's some thicc copium you are having there, mate. mind sharing some?

[queen eagle]

[sand tiger]

[grim lagoon]

inb4 they look like femroes with fur

[unreal gale]

God, I'd hope not.

[haughty crater]

penta?

[peak spoke]

Non-penta and penta yeah this is my first time getting into crafting since 6.0 and I think I've done what I can until there is more, I've heard how expensive and RNG it is but I'm willing to invest

[half phoenix]

Currently isn’t full 570 noncombat just scrip gear?

[haughty crater]

idk if its needed or not but you said you're all in

[peak spoke]

I use a combination of 570 and HQ....whatever the crafted one is, 560? from what I read you can do either or - stats are slightly higher with HQ one and materia

[haughty crater]

my botanist isnt using purple scrip gear, melded gear is better iirc

it wasnt even expensive

[orchid nimbus]

It needs to be penta-melded to be better

[haughty crater]

Nah it depends on the individual piece

[half phoenix]

Yes but they asked for i570

[orchid nimbus]

Oh?

[peak spoke]

oh I assumed pentamelding was something you could only do later but maybe it just doesn't make sense to do later and I can start trying to work on that now?

[haughty crater]

Ya like weapons and chest have good stats baseline so they are slightly less influenced by melds or something?

[orchid nimbus]

Ha yes I know about weapons. didn't know about chest

[haughty crater]

Or "the loss from not pentamelding that specific piece is not as great"

[haughty crater]

im not sure. I heard you can throw trash materia in the later slots to do it for cheaper, to get higher spiritbond rate

[tranquil igloo]

well... looks like i'm gonna have to farm some dungeons for a while to get enough tomestones to do the raids lol

[haughty crater]

I would be setting my sights on crafting HQ versions of whatever the new Savage combat gear is if I was a maxed crafter right now

6.05 1/4

[tidal mauve]

the grapes were a bug

[haughty crater]

they did surgery on a grape

[tidal mauve]

what do you mean the grapes weren't supposed to look like that

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/875705833974009876/922719823631384637/FHGoiXHWUAQQIbE.png

[haughty crater]

expert roulette and others seem to give a bunch! I heard hunts are good

ok doing some research here -
relic weapons were in 2.0
anima in 3.15
eureka in 4.25
resistance in 5.25

So unlikely we get them soon!

[tranquil igloo]

yeh whatever the endwalker relic weapons are, we will prob not see them until 6.25

[wind bough]

Crafted gear doesn’t need to be pentamelded to be better

Only lightly melded

[marsh osprey]

I feel scammed

[fiery dawn]

[lethal phoenix]

I really didn't expect Endwalker to cement FFXIV as probably my favorite game of all time and definitely my favorite FF

[rare mesa]

by carrot eating midgets

[gleaming bough]

Bruh i did not even grind

[rain onyx]

just wanted to say CONGRATULATIONS on clearing In from the Cold! (It was harder in 6.0) I'm so glad you (In from the Cold was harder in 6.0) finished the MSQ (In from the Cold was harder in 6.0) and earned a title to flex on the peasants (it was cooler in 6.0) and glamour (that was more rare in 6.0)! I'm so proud (that it was more difficult in 6.0) that you cleared the trio of being unable to heal, having to sneak around, and pressing three buttons (but they were more fun in last year in 6.0) and can use the experience to better yourself as a player (bitch).

[orchid nimbus]

Yeah didn't even do one side-quest and no roulette

[deep marsh]

I didn't even know ppl had issues with it that it needed a change

[gleaming bough]

Just get some msq quest and im already lvl 90

[dry remnant]

people are just bad

:^)

[deep marsh]

Prob one of the cooler quests though

[wild wraith]

hey is there a new patch today?

[orchid nimbus]

I had issue with the fact that it was a bad duty gameplay-wise but it wasn't difficult. (And it was a GREAT duty outside of gameplay, the crap they make you eat is worth it and relevant to the plot)

[late aurora]

No, we just got patch notes about nothing important

[haughty crater]

for me, it was shadowbringer

[haughty crater]

4hrs eta

[wind bough]

Note the normal version of the duty wasn’t changed

They just made the easy and very easy modes easier

[lethal phoenix]

Shadowbringers was great but Endwalker is what completed it for me

[haughty crater]

real warriors of light would never turn down the difficulty of the ||final fight|| 😎

[gleaming bough]

Their queen is already a roe

[orchid nimbus]

It was a tad too easy on normal, and way too long above that

[fluid basalt]

you can turn down the difficulty?

below normal?

[orchid nimbus]

Yeah if you die

[vital timber]

some duties, you can.

[haughty crater]

im not sure, you have to fail to find out

[fluid basalt]

i thought if you lose the trial... you get to redo

[vital timber]

oh, that's different

[wind bough]

Solo quest duties

[vital timber]

we referring to solo duties

[haughty crater]

Shadowmans I'd give a 9/10, just overall great pacing interesting environments huge innovations and finally departed from how "standard" every other expansion has been.
Endwalker so far is a 8/10, some great fights and a lot of polish but it starts off pretty slow. Final zone is fantastic and all the bosses are great

[warm glen]

is pandaemonium now live?

[fluid basalt]

after this maintenance

[haughty crater]

4hrs

[gleaming bough]

The notion that they cant even clear easy and very easy mode is horrifying

[fluid basalt]

trials get very easy mode wow

[haughty crater]

Not trials, MSQ solo instances

[warm glen]

this will be similar to bozja shit, right?

[haughty crater]

its a raid idk what you are asking

[deep marsh]

bozja had a raid too, but no it's just a raid

[wind bough]

Nothing at all similar to Bozja is coming in this patch

[warm glen]

like u have first to gather new traits and actions...

[haughty crater]

No

[wind bough]

No

[haughty crater]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/bba3f0b1f5c8d2708d7a126957ad76fb30c4eb71

[wind bough]

It’s the new 8man raid series

Like Omega and Eden

[warm glen]

oh

ok

[haughty crater]

heres what we know, they probably would've announced if it was something more intricate

[wind bough]

It’s the new normal raid

We know exactly how it goes

[warm glen]

so new alexander, omega, eden?=))

[wind bough]

Yes

Pandaemonium floors 1–4

The first tier

[warm glen]

sounds promised

[haughty crater]

I dont, this is my first expansion since 2.0

How do they usually unlock? Can we do all 4 circles immediately?

[wind bough]

You do the storyline to go through the four in order

[weary yoke]

you'll have to complete them in sequence but they're all available as soon as the patch opens

[marsh osprey]

The certain duty was just really annoying and some players dont like dealing with it

[wind bough]

Then you can do them for your weekly locked gear tokens every week

[marsh osprey]

Hence the change to easy and very easy

[haughty crater]

and then savage is unlocked early january, which is the same fights just harder

[wind bough]

Well

That’s underselling it

[warm glen]

i dont know if it right to ask there, but has any1 glowing job icons? need for my parser

[wind bough]

Savage is a different beast

[haughty crater]

Does savage get new mechs?

[marsh osprey]

More like its the fights with severe difficulty

[vital timber]

Yes

[wind bough]

And the fourth savage floor will have a new boss

[wind bough]

Yes it’s basically all new mechs

[unreal gale]

Same aesthetic, but arguably different fights.

[vital timber]

Some get mechanics that are exclusive to the mode itself

[wind bough]

The normal raids are just a very basic taster

[weary yoke]

borrowing a wow term, it's like going from normal to mythic

[gleaming bough]

The new 8 man raid is coming this patch right?

[vital timber]

For example, Kefka can transform to his god form in his 2nd phase.

[marsh osprey]

Savage is the original fight design and normal version is a heavily watered down one with very easy mechs

[wind bough]

The fourth floor of each savage tier has a whole new boss form that is essentially a separate boss

[vital timber]

pretty much

[warm glen]

are gear parts now upgradable in 24ppl raids?

[wind bough]

While the form you fought in normal mode just becomes the door boss

[late aurora]

We don’t have EW alliance raids yet

[vital timber]

Not yet

[haughty crater]

its an 8man raid not a 24man raid

[weary yoke]

the 24-player raid doesn't come with this patch. that's later

[vital timber]

Yeah, give or take a month or two after release

[wind bough]

24man doesn’t come until 6.1 so March April ish

[warm glen]

so? ok didnt knew

[unreal gale]

Fingers crossed for decent alliance lore. Nier dwarves were terrible. :')

[weary yoke]

all we get today is the first 4 floors of the 8-player raid normal mode

[marsh osprey]

Guys though we are getting a new savage fight today

[vital timber]

It's all good. Welcome to FFXIV. 😄

[marsh osprey]

Queue: Savage

[vital timber]

Ah yes.... Queue Ultimate

[haughty crater]

4 floors?

[vital timber]

The true enemy

[haughty crater]

Isnt that like 12 bosses?

[warm glen]

i want new nier automata raid ffs!

[vital timber]

technically it's more like 4 raids

[fluid basalt]

just 4 bosses

[weary yoke]

no. P1N-P4N

4 bosses

[vital timber]

each raid is just a single boss fight

[warm glen]

installing nier automata

[fluid basalt]

pin pan?

[haughty crater]

Oh thats weird

[weary yoke]

just like raids have gone in past expansions

[vital timber]

basically think of Trials but the mechanics are slightly more convoluted and diverse.

[weary yoke]

5.0.1 was E1N-E4N

[vital timber]

while Savage ones are that and much more.

[late aurora]

Pande 1 normal to pande 4 normal

[vital timber]

And as the months go on, we will get new tiers of Pandemonium raids

[marsh osprey]

I hope normal versions have enrages this time around

[haughty crater]

So 4 bosses and we gotta beat each one to unlock the next so any party you see at boss 2 has cleared boss 1

I like this design

[vital timber]

Nah, I hope not

[warm glen]

sounds like PIN and PUK for ur phone +))

[vital timber]

That's what EX Trials are for

To get potential raiders accustomed to harder endgame content

[marsh osprey]

They even put in enrages for normal trials in shb

[vital timber]

Did they?

[tropic frigate]

Some normal modes already have enrages and they are super easy

[marsh osprey]

Ruby wep part 1 has a hard enrage

[late aurora]

(Casts Ultima but harder)

[haughty crater]

as long as its not a tight enrage I think its correct to have one for easy mode content

[vital timber]

I must have missed that bit

[weary yoke]

as long as the party isn't constantly dead, beating the enrage isn't hard

[tropic frigate]

I think alex normal has one too

[deep marsh]

@Zews nier raid music ❤️

[marsh osprey]

Some eden normal raids have enrages

Iirc

[vital timber]

Which Eden raids have enrages on normal?

[eternal pulsar]

Enrages in normal modes were always intermission where you gotta bonk some adds or do something else

[vital timber]

I know they had some in the middle of the raid like with E1N

[marsh osprey]

E8n has one

[late aurora]

8

[vital timber]

But do all of them have an Enrage at the end?

[eternal pulsar]

See: Suzaku, O11, Seiryu

[vital timber]

Ah yes, I remember

[haughty crater]

But nobody knows anything about any of the new bosses and mechs?

[warm glen]

finaly i can kill hydaelyn now with pugs. i had always crap parties, that couldnt reach dps for killing her. perphaps seen enrage around 30 times...

[haughty crater]

THAT SOUNDS LIKE SO MUCH FUN

[vital timber]

Nobody knows.

[eternal pulsar]

They usually don't have end enrages

[weary yoke]

nope breadfast, there's no public preview

[tropic frigate]

Nah some dont have an enrage

[marsh osprey]

Every raid with addphase has midfight enrage

[late aurora]

Spoilers

[vital timber]

We got a snippet of what Pandemonium looks like and the weapons we can get from them, but that's about it

[marsh osprey]

Bruh

[haughty crater]

Good!! I always like learning a fight without a guide when possible

[warm glen]

i dont think there is still one that didnt finish msq yet

[late aurora]

Dude

[marsh osprey]

Theres lots

[haughty crater]

I think EX1 even with a guide is going to be rough haha

[eternal pulsar]

Lol

[vital timber]

Or if they do, they do not wanna go here.

[frozen shoal]

So I just want to clarify smthn, BiS heading into savage raiding is all 580 gear so essentially you only need need left side + 1 ring if you farmed ex trials right?

[hollow ice]

there are many, after all not everyone actually could get in all the time

[late aurora]

There’s always someone that hasn’t done msq

[eternal pulsar]

Technically prog bis is crafted gear

[vital timber]

I still haven't done my 2nd EX because I was so eager to effing get the mount

16 runs in and still no mount in sight

[exotic spade]

Regardless, it's just good practice to add spoiler tags

[marsh osprey]

We put hard msq spoiler tags in here

[vital timber]

I have only seen the mat and the orchestrion roll

[marsh osprey]

Some people just wanna discuss 6.0

[warm glen]

we have 90 in primetime=)) thx god i started on right world 6 years ago=))

[marsh osprey]

And not get the entire story spoiled on a silver platter

[frozen shoal]

Crafted for everything without pentameld is BiS until you farm savage gear right?

[warm glen]

it pays out now

[haughty crater]

day 1 savage gear is supposedly pentamelded crafted gear. But the 580 dropped from bosses and normal raid should be fine for most players...?

[eternal pulsar]

With pentameld

[hollow ice]

if you want to do free range talk about spoilers just go to #916247709462200390

[late aurora]

Even #archived-lore-spoilers wants the new stuff tagged

[marsh osprey]

You preferably need pentamelded gear to make dps checks in savage week1 while not knowing mechanics perfectly yet

[vital timber]

Oh dear

I just got an ad on a YT video advertising FFXIV boosting services

[marsh osprey]

Every meld could be a kill on a 0.1%enrage

[haughty crater]

??? That doesnt make any sense, its literally the SPOILERS channel lol

[marsh osprey]

No

This is 6.0 discussion

[haughty crater]

If u didnt beat endwalker and are browsing the lore-spoilers channel you deserve to read what you clicked on

[hollow ice]

yes but this is the spoiler tag enforced channel

[vital timber]

135 dollars just to play from ARR to EW..... WUT? D

[eternal pulsar]

6.0 is anything from level 80 to 90, not just 90

[hollow ice]

you can talk spoilers as long as its tagged

[marsh osprey]

All talk is allowed in here but actual spoiler mustbe tagged

[haughty crater]

That makes sense, ur kinda asking for trouble coming to a new patch channel tho, like how are you gonna avoid panda moanyum

[undone hearth]

So, I keep seeing people directing to... somewhere, like this, but for me it just says #deleted-channel

[hollow ice]

oh I already beat the whole msq

on like day 4

[deep marsh]

The spoilers channel is the channel that says "Lore-spoilers" this is "6.0 discussion"

[late aurora]

Because people spoil tag

[marsh osprey]

Why is this even a discussion, this channel has rules

They are to be followed

[hollow ice]

also here (its also in the pins)

[frozen shoal]

Is crafted gear even worth it if I am not looking to complete the entire tier in the first week or 2? How much of a difference is full 580 set vs pentamelded crafted set?

[eternal pulsar]

People like to argue about the silliest stuff

[warm glen]

exactly my opininon! as i watched story, i didnt even start discord.

[eternal pulsar]

Not really worth it

[hollow ice]

well thats interesting

[marsh osprey]

A mix of crafted and normal raid gear is usually optimal

[haughty crater]

someone threatened to spoil me in DMs and I just closed discord and social media for the next 2 days lol

[late aurora]

Isn’t crafted gear coming with Savage, not normal

[frozen shoal]

Ye

[eternal pulsar]

Yes

[marsh osprey]

Usually you look at normal raid gear with good stats and get those

[undone hearth]

Yeah. I don’t really know why it does that, but it’s always just been “#deleted-channel”

[marsh osprey]

As you can get up to 6 pieces in 2 weeks

[late aurora]

It’s a thread in lore spoilers

[eternal pulsar]

If you're not gonna reach fight 3-4 in the first 4 weeks then just go with regular gear imo

[marsh osprey]

Or only 4 pieces for 2nd or 3rd raid tier

If you not gonna reach 3-4 in some weeks you have partial 590 tome gear already

[hollow ice]

maybe its cuz you never visited #archived-lore-spoilers

[eternal pulsar]

Exactly

[undone hearth]

I have, but even there it shows that;

[late aurora]

You don’t have threads

Update discord

[hollow ice]

oh dang you're running on old discord rip

[undone hearth]

That might explain it

[marsh osprey]

Also

[frozen shoal]

So 580 from normal raid drops/ex trials or 580 crafted gear pentmelded and if you wait a bit then 580+ with tomestones?

[marsh osprey]

Pandaemonium gear looks fantastic

[marsh osprey]

Yes

[frozen shoal]

I think the tank one will look great for female characters but let's see

[marsh osprey]

Mind you the accessories from ex1 are garbage

[frozen shoal]

Okay I got it now

[marsh osprey]

No need to pentameld

[frozen shoal]

I have a few of my crafters ready to go so might as well just craft myself raid gear

[marsh osprey]

If you arent doing week1

Or week2

[eternal pulsar]

Crafted is really for the hardcore speed raiders

[marsh osprey]

Ah

Crafted is ez gear

[frozen shoal]

If I can get the first boss down and start 2nd in the first week then imma be a happy man

[haughty crater]

what do we know about the new tomestones? Is it only from the raid?

[scarlet oyster]

Are there any datamined stuff for 6.01? :p

[marsh osprey]

You wanna raid today? Buy crafted

You have time?

[late aurora]

We have patch notes

[eternal pulsar]

It'll work as always, you get it from lv90 content

[marsh osprey]

Farm some normal gear

[scarlet oyster]

;-; was hoping to see the bosses

[frozen shoal]

Exarchic, neo ishgard were the crafted gear from previous 2 tiers right? Is that the general price level for new crafted gear or is it gonna be insane like 250k per piece

[haughty crater]

I dont know what "as always" is. So that means duty finder, trials, ex trials, raid...?

[marsh osprey]

Its gonna be a million per piece

[eternal pulsar]

Anything at 90 will gives tomes

[late aurora]

Dude we have like 3 hours, until the game’s up

[frozen shoal]

Anywhere you get the current aphorism poetics from is what I am assuming

[eternal pulsar]

250k is cheap crafted

Weeks after release

[marsh osprey]

And in 2 weeks gear pieces will be 100-200k

[eternal pulsar]

Crafted on release is expensive

[marsh osprey]

Day1 its expensive

[undone hearth]

Generally it’s going to be high at first, then drop down as more people have access to mats to make it

[frozen shoal]

Damn, I gotta really be on top of things then eh

[keen osprey]

So like... you're saying it's extremely profitable to sell crafted gear?

[eternal pulsar]

Yes

[keen osprey]

Sweeeet...

[weary yoke]

crafters can make money hand over fist if they have the mats

[eternal pulsar]

But you'll need to invest to profit

[weary yoke]

looks at the ~20M he made last week

[keen osprey]

Wdym?

[late aurora]

Because lazy people want catch up gear

[eternal pulsar]

Overmeld your crafter gear

[late aurora]

And they will pay for it

[haughty crater]

"Allagan tomestones of astronomy, which are scheduled to be released two weeks after patch 6.01."
AKA on savage release

[keen osprey]

Ah...

[eternal pulsar]

And gatherer too to speed it up

If it was that easy, it wouldn't be expensive

[marsh osprey]

Its not even being lazy

[keen osprey]

We're not overmelding yet yeah? Or we're overmelding now to craft gear to overmeld later?

[frozen shoal]

For the mats what type of nodes will you need to farm, legendary and unspoiled?

[marsh osprey]

Crafted is the to go standard to clear the raids

[gaunt star]

they're adding crafted gear on this patch?

[eternal pulsar]

We're overmelding on 6.05 release

No

6.05

[haughty crater]

megameld before savage release

[keen osprey]

Ah, so it's fine to not overmeld the current white lv 90 gear?

[haughty crater]

Get your mats early if you dont want to eat price hike

[marsh osprey]

You cant meld white gear

[eternal pulsar]

You can overmeld rings, legs and feet

[keen osprey]

Oh...

[eternal pulsar]

Crafter gear

[wind bough]

No new crafting gear or recipes are coming in this patch

[marsh osprey]

White gear will not be enough to craft shit also

You need 560

Which is btw

[keen osprey]

So what? We need the purple scrips gear?

[marsh osprey]

Dirt cheap

[gaunt star]

so raid crafted gear is coming with 6.05?

[wind bough]

White gear usually refers to craftable gear…

[eternal pulsar]

No, you need the i560 crafter gear

[frozen shoal]

Crafted AR gear i think

[wind bough]

I.e. not blue or green

[eternal pulsar]

Yes

[marsh osprey]

My brain was on blue gear

Instead of white

[haughty crater]

scrip gear is casual gear I believe

[marsh osprey]

[keen osprey]

I mean... isn't that what i meant when i said white gear?

[frozen shoal]

Which mats would that be? Isn't it all speculation until 6.05 drops?

[marsh osprey]

I need more coffee

[keen osprey]

the lv 90 white crafted gear yeah?

[wind bough]

Scrip gear is poverty gear yes

BiS is always crafted gear with melds

[eternal pulsar]

Yes

[marsh osprey]

Some 6.0 mats but most mats will be from new nodes

[keen osprey]

Already crafted those lol

[marsh osprey]

That are available with 6.05 only

[eternal pulsar]

The mats for 6.05 gear is already available

[gaunt star]

there's no lv 90 crafted gear yet? at least in the crafter it only reaches lvl 89 stuff

[eternal pulsar]

From books

[keen osprey]

Any clue which ones?

[haughty crater]

speculation, overmeld materia since several will break... probably the hard-to-get materials instead of just the common ones...

[eternal pulsar]

Buy the folklore books and check gathering logs

[marsh osprey]

I should start gathering

[keen osprey]

Nvm

[eternal pulsar]

They have no usage ATM, it's the mats for 6.05 gear

[keen osprey]

i misread Crafted as Crafter

there's lv 90 Crafter gear, but no lv 90 Crafted gear yet

[eternal pulsar]

Was the same back in 5.0

[frozen shoal]

Do crafters on day 1 just buy mats or they gather it themselves? I imagine mats will be crazy expensive that you don't make much profit if you buy them but idk

[marsh osprey]

Nice

[haughty crater]

If you have experience with previous patch cycles you might have better insight as to what exactly a post-patch crafted set will look like

[marsh osprey]

That went over my head

[eternal pulsar]

Both

[blazing edge]

wanted to play a different game waiting for maint, almost launched ffxiv by instinct.........

[marsh osprey]

I buy aethersands usually

Because fuck gathering those

[eternal pulsar]

Mood

[tulip geyser]

Been there, rolled eyes at self for that

[blazing edge]

lmao

[marsh osprey]

Whats 1-2 million for aethersands when i dont have to gather them then

[haughty crater]

God gamers are probably 90 all craft+gather so they can afford to farm or stockpile whatever they like...
Your average player probably has 1 maxed if that?

[marsh osprey]

Peace of mind

[eternal pulsar]

Peace of mind

[gaunt star]

yea, i got my crafter gear ready, i need to start gathering some materials

[marsh osprey]

Great minds think alike

[gaunt star]

when is 6.05 dropping? end of January?

[eternal pulsar]

4th Jan

[gaunt star]

that's so quick lmao

[keen osprey]

6.05 isn't dropping for awhile though, so it's find to take your time to gather your mats

[orchid nimbus]

I made Millions selling those.... But I lost so much in the process

[blazing edge]

Savage is 4th of Jan right?

[eternal pulsar]

2 weeks from now

[marsh osprey]

My condolences

[haughty crater]

aethersand is fun to farm

4 hour in-game window where you just go nuts

[gaunt star]

do people sell the crafter gear alone or are raiders expecting it to be pentamelded in MB?

[frozen shoal]

I have both my gatherers at 90 and 3 crafters at 90 all with BiS with the latter overmleded but haven't gotten any folklore books yet so idk how to gather mats yet really

[marsh osprey]

They are stressfull to farm, i dont like being stressed by rng and a hard time limit while gathering

[eternal pulsar]

Both

[gaunt star]

is there a guide on what to pentameld each job gear?

[marsh osprey]

Not yet

[gaunt star]

like how teamcraft has for gathering/Crafting

[eternal pulsar]

Maxing out crafters is easy, most people I know have them done by now

[orchid nimbus]

Yes, fucking up because you forgot to take a cordial before clicking on a node is BRUTAL

[haughty crater]

I leveled botanist 1-90 a few days ago and then spent a day farming mats and getting all the folklore. Its pretty easy, actually the folklore materials seem very underpriced right now

[eternal pulsar]

Pentameld day 1 is just following meld priorities

[marsh osprey]

Theres the general just meld crit> direct hit>determination

[eternal pulsar]

Nobody is gonna release matched out gear that fast

[keen osprey]

is there some info on what 6.0 mats to gather before 6.05?

[marsh osprey]

And sks/sps depending on your wanted gcd

[eternal pulsar]

It's actually crit > det> dh atm

[eternal pulsar]

Everything to be safe

[gaunt star]

so i should read on what stats are necessary

[orchid nimbus]

Gather thing from the folklore book

[marsh osprey]

Yeah kinda weird

[shrewd bobcat]

did they fix sound problem in 6.01?

[keen osprey]

I have no idea what is that

[frozen shoal]

And will aethersand be from these folklore nodes or smthn else?

[marsh osprey]

They should just remove det or direct hit

[eternal pulsar]

Check balance for your job's meld priority

[eternal pulsar]

Something else iirc

[wheat willow]

is there anywhere we can see info on the substats for the gears etc

[gaunt star]

How much do people buy the new crafted gear set for

at the start

[eternal pulsar]

Basically master craft books for gatherers

[wheat willow]

1.2million

iirc

[eternal pulsar]

Couple millions for the whole set

[keen osprey]

Ah... Where do i get those?

[marsh osprey]

Ive been offered 50 million for one crafted gear set with pentamelds

[orchid nimbus]

You can exchange scrip for folklore books that unlock new gathering node. Those node are pretty much all valuable at some point

[haughty crater]

nah aethersand is normal 90 gathering, with a 4-hour window to farm (you can get about 50 per cycle if you're lucky/good, maybe more for pentamelded goombas)
The folklore stuff is 2-hour 1-node 1-shot

[eternal pulsar]

Scrip vendor in Radz

[gaunt star]

but that's pentamelded right?

[keen osprey]

Thanks

[wheat willow]

gear set with pentamelds depends on the crafter

[marsh osprey]

No

[eternal pulsar]

Lol no

[gaunt star]

no?

LOL

[marsh osprey]

Pentamelded set is expensive

[wheat willow]

whole set without pentamelds usually 3-4million

[eternal pulsar]

Stock up on materia if you wanna pentameld

[keen osprey]

Hmm... need to set aside time to farm purple scrips

[frozen shoal]

So just unspoiled nodes then?

[marsh osprey]

Upwards of 10 million gil for pentameld set

[wheat willow]

^

[gaunt star]

interesting

[marsh osprey]

As i said ive been offered 50 million

[haughty crater]

yep folklore is unspoiled and aether is ephemeral

[marsh osprey]

For a penta set within 2.5 hours of crafted release

[frozen shoal]

How quickly do prices die down? I won't be home till later afternoon so don't wanna be surprised if the price is half of that

[eternal pulsar]

Kekw

[gaunt star]

gotta be fast

[eternal pulsar]

Price drop fast first week

[wheat willow]

prices die down around.........a week later

[eternal pulsar]

You're selling to the hardcore peeps that most likely took time off to raid

[marsh osprey]

Prices die down on day2

And reach acceptable levels on day3

[gaunt star]

do people buy like crazy on 1.2 mill? or is there a limit?

[orchid nimbus]

But it's still worth your time honnestly... well kind of

[wheat willow]

well usually hardcore statics have crafters+gatherers hired to do the entire set

for the static

[eternal pulsar]

True

[gaunt star]

this is the first time i'm at the top tier crafting gear set , ima stock up good for this.

[marsh osprey]

Its only top tier with pentameld

[frozen shoal]

But raid gear will still be really profitable for a few weeks tho?

[marsh osprey]

Appropriate pentamelds

But im not pentamelding until we have macros

[gaunt star]

yea my shit is pentamelded

[eternal pulsar]

It's eh income. Not bad, not good

[wheat willow]

nowadays its first 1-3 weeks only but afterwards people try to undercut

[eternal pulsar]

Depends on your server too

[wheat willow]

just to sell

[orchid nimbus]

It will be profitable forever, just less so

[eternal pulsar]

Just do map dungeon that comes out same day

[gaunt star]

i think my server has some Raid people ready to buy my crafted gear c:

[marsh osprey]

Eventually the time investment isnt worth it

[eternal pulsar]

Profitable for longer

[wheat willow]

you need to remember there're other people also crafting like you

[frozen shoal]

So crafters pentmelding are doing it mostly for the week 1 crafts and not much for later on?

[marsh osprey]

Map dungeon is indefinitely profitable

You need pentamelded crafted gear to craft

[orchid nimbus]

never touched the map, how do you farm that ?

[marsh osprey]

Theres catchip gear after

But its not as good as pentameld craft

[eternal pulsar]

Hit Lv90 nodes once every 18 hours for a map

[gaunt star]

based on how many people i see with pentameld on my server, i'm guessing the competition is fierce

[eternal pulsar]

Get a group, do the map, hope for portal to spawn, hope for loot to drop, hope to get loot, sell loot

[marsh osprey]

Crafted crafter gear with overmelds is always the BiS

[wheat willow]

^

[marsh osprey]

Also it allows to you use balance macro

For ez crafting

[wheat willow]

and u can just afk craft

[orchid nimbus]

Ha yes, I got those for previous, I had to put one in each inventory, didn't think about selling them

[gaunt star]

you guys think a duo / trio party should be enough for the new maps?

[haughty crater]

Does new crafter gear come with 6.05?

[eternal pulsar]

You want 4-5

[haughty crater]

One of my maps suggests 8-man

[marsh osprey]

You need 4 people minimum

You have shit gear rn

Map dungeon will be somewhat punishing

[gaunt star]

ugh.. i don't wanna take randoms, just friends.

[wheat willow]

dont think so, new recipes will be coming out for DOW/DOM for savage

[eternal pulsar]

You can do with 2 but it's slow af, 4-5 is appropriate speed without splitting the loot too much

[wheat willow]

but new crafter gear is out in 6.0

[eternal pulsar]

6.1 and 6.3

[wheat willow]

so i dont think they'll release again in 6.05

6.1 yeah

[marsh osprey]

Ye 6.1

[haughty crater]

Oh so 560(?) megamelded is the best for a long time?

[eternal pulsar]

6.1 is just left side, 6.3 is whole set

[haughty crater]

Thats pretty cool

[eternal pulsar]

Current accessories will last you for a year

[marsh osprey]

Mind you you need fat pentameld 560 to craft the crafter gear from 6.1

It will be a difficult craft

[wheat willow]

start stocking up

[marsh osprey]

There will be catchup gear eventually

[haughty crater]

what are the odds of the last meld in a penta? You only lose the 1 you're trying to put in right?

[marsh osprey]

5%

[orchid nimbus]

You're going to cry a lot

[marsh osprey]

Worst case

Or some shit

What was the minimum again

[wheat willow]

you need to have at least around 100-200 for the last meld

if you're unlucky, 250

[haughty crater]

5%?

[orchid nimbus]

Could be ONE also but lol

[wheat willow]

yeah

[marsh osprey]

I think it was even lower

For some melds

[gaunt star]

I can vouch for that

I cried a lot there

[frozen shoal]

What crafter materia do I need to stock up on in prep for 6.05? I am following the safety net on balance discord so should I save CP 10 or CP 9 or control etc?

[wheat willow]

i have used 100-200 while pentamelding the last slot for a hardcore static before

[haughty crater]

5% is 1/20 not that bad

[marsh osprey]

My aesthete gear was worth 30 million gil

Btw

[gaunt star]

Sometimes that 1/20 goes to hell

[marsh osprey]

But well it lasted

For

1,5 years

Or so

[orchid nimbus]

And that's 1.5 year of easy income

[haughty crater]

but you only lose the one you're trying to put in right? it doesnt like reset your entire gear?

[wheat willow]

no it doesnt

[gaunt star]

Do you guys advertise gear crafting and pentamelding so statics take notice?

[orchid nimbus]

No, oh my god the horror, don't give them idea

[wheat willow]

you can do so actually

[gaunt star]

You just lose the materia

[haughty crater]

Thats how it worked in some other games ive played, it was brutal, we had to have stacks of gear since they would always eventually break

[wheat willow]

people already doing so back in 6.0 when endwalker releases and also before

[gaunt star]

I should advertise, ima stock up good

[haughty crater]

Personally im probably not overmelding cause I dont like crafting type stuff haha

scrip gear should be fine for me I think 😄

[orchid nimbus]

That's also a good way of finding a static if you're good at the secondary jobs

[marsh osprey]

If you never want to craft the cafted gear

Then scrip is fine

[gaunt star]

Secondary jobs?

[orchid nimbus]

Yes DoW and DoM

[haughty crater]

Or even just waiting til the juicy stuff drops in price. My gatherer set was cheap, its melded but not overmelded and I can farm everything that exists right now reasonably well

[marsh osprey]

Gear is very cheap

Cuz

[gaunt star]

I haven’t practiced much of boss fights, went straight for crafting lol

[marsh osprey]

You could make it with food and aesthete gear

Also due to ishgard we have a fuckton of crafters

[orchid nimbus]

As you should

[haughty crater]

Ishgard is nuts yo

[marsh osprey]

I paid 8 million in ishgard after selling scrip items to get all m crafters to 80

[frozen shoal]

Now I kinda don't want to overmeld for crafters gear since its seeming like the ROI is only good for a few days

[marsh osprey]

Absolutely nuts

[haughty crater]

ouch

[marsh osprey]

I didnt have to farm a single thing

8 million was so cheap

[gaunt star]

I finished pentamelding everything like a day ago lol, was organizing on what to prioritize next for upcoming patches

[marsh osprey]

To not waste dozens of hours farming diadem shit

[haughty crater]

diadem isnt bad either

turbo boosted my gathering

[marsh osprey]

It wasnt worth farming the mats for crafter leveling in there

I even bought my expert crafting mats, ALL of them

But that was the worst week of my life in ffxiv

[haughty crater]

ya crafting kinda sus

but they made it a lot better from how it used to be

[late aurora]

Alisaie in the 87 dungeon is a treasure
||https://youtu.be/pAYF54s2Hqo||

[marsh osprey]

Just sitting in ishgard and manually crafting the hardest reciepes known to man

[haughty crater]

Only thing I dont like is how you need to regear every so often and the gear isnt cheap

[marsh osprey]

For a week straight

Well they do have to offer some grindy/hardcore content

To please the players

Not everything can be super casual

[gaunt star]

So 6.05 will add the new master books where the crafted sets will be right?

Along with the things you can get from treasure Dungeons

[haughty crater]

if I wanna level my other crafters at some point its in my best interest to keep 3 or 4 level brackets worth of crafting gearsets in my bank instead of having to spend 500k+ each time I decide to level one

seems kind of annoying

[marsh osprey]

Not that crafters/gatherers are difficult or anything, but they do are a time investment that i consider relatively hardcore

[haughty crater]

Ishgard has been pretty fast im at lvl 78? in 1-2 days without knowing what im doing really

[orchid nimbus]

Yeah I always level crafter in bulk for that reason

[marsh osprey]

I did all crafters from 1-80 in a week

In ishgard

[haughty crater]

I mean I have retainer space, just annoying to sit on multiple gearsets

[marsh osprey]

One by one

[haughty crater]

Level sync but for crafters 😎

[marsh osprey]

Leveling all crafters at once is not exactly the most time efficient thing

[orchid nimbus]

If you gather your own stuff it kind of is

Because what's needed for scrip / leves of a level bracket is contained in the same zone

[marsh osprey]

Not even then

[haughty crater]

wait a secondddddddd

do you lose your materials when you fail to craft something?

[orchid nimbus]

Yup

But you can trial runs for free

And you should use guaranteed rotations (at least guaranteed completion)

[haughty crater]

so even someone that isnt maxed could get lucky and make the new gear

[orchid nimbus]

Ho yes making the new gear is easy, making the new gear HQ is not

And nobody want the NQ

[marsh osprey]

If you have some gil then crafter leveling can be really nice

You just need one crafter at max level to get scrips

For ez gear

But you need to buy gear in the first place to sufficiently save time

As scrip gear is pretty shit in ishgard

First crafter should always be bsm though

Makes many many tools

[haughty crater]

I spent like 500k to get my crafting gear for multiple lvl brackets but won a big 500k+ prize in kupo of fortune

[marsh osprey]

Saving you tons of money if you buy a few cheap mats

[haughty crater]

so we take those

[marsh osprey]

Gsm and carpenter are 2nd as they mostly make the rest of tools and mostly all accessories

[somber trout]

What's exactly coming after this maintenance

[marsh osprey]

Normal 8 man raids

4 of them

[haughty crater]

pandaemonium raid unlock, including 4(?) bosses

[marsh osprey]

Hopefully with a cool story attached

[somber trout]

I see

[haughty crater]

the quest chain is definitely related to it

[marsh osprey]

The quest chain is the unlock quest

[haughty crater]

kingdom hearts crossover

final boss is mickey mouse

[south flare]

what if they pull a binding coil and give us 5 instead of 4 that would be epic

but alas not bound to happen

[marsh osprey]

When i got to ||elpis|| that was my first thought

Is this kingdom hearts crossover now?

[south flare]

where's sora when you need him

[marsh osprey]

Here

[haughty crater]

shoes too big to fit in the portal

[marsh osprey]

From 5th december

I was like

[south flare]

lmao fax

[marsh osprey]

Wat

[south flare]

xehanort be like

gunbreaker?

[marsh osprey]

Arguably endwalker is the only kingdom hearts crossover we will ever get

[tight topaz]

So i just read the patch notes, and didnt see anything in regards to the housing area, did they delay it?

[south flare]

prolly 6.1

tbh

[marsh osprey]

I dont think players would be too pleased about mr mouse being actually involved with ffxiv

[minor wren]

This patch is for the raid

[south flare]

good

im more excited for the raid music than i am anything else

[haughty crater]

WHEN YOU WALK AWAY

[south flare]

what

[marsh osprey]

Oh yes

I cant wait for music

I hope its some pandaemonium remixes

The old music was really cool

[south flare]

wait tbh i have no idea what pandaemonium is

[haughty crater]

As long as its not whatever that track that plays forever in the final zone is

[south flare]

i didnt realize this was not a new thing

[marsh osprey]

Its from ff2 and ff9

[south flare]

ohhh

[marsh osprey]

ff9 calls pandaemonium ||the castle frozen in time||

That fits well into ||elpis|| dont you think

[calm umbra]

Can we post the songs or no?

[frozen shoal]

I just wanna see the mount from P4S

[south flare]

oh 100% it fits

[marsh osprey]

Datamined music or ff2/ff9 music?

The latter is fine

[south flare]

if its the old music sure

[calm umbra]

the datamined raid ones - oh lol I'll just wait then

[marsh osprey]

Dont

Thats a permaban

[south flare]

oh yeah

[calm umbra]

I mean I'll wait for everyone to do it then tomorrow and just not

[marsh osprey]

Music is HUGE nono even for datamining

[calm umbra]

I figured this was more spoilery channel

[marsh osprey]

In here

[haughty crater]

imagine robbing me of the beautiful experience of stepping into raid and hearing a new track

😭

[calm umbra]

oh ok

[south flare]

isnt the maintenance done in 3 hours?

[marsh osprey]

Yea

[steel tusk]

just a question, did Yoshi-P mention that he explicitly asked for a rework to add bones/polygons to the loporrits or am I hallucinating that

[calm umbra]

idk someone sent me them but I'll just hold it in!

[south flare]

would there be a big queue at that time you think?

[marsh osprey]

Doesnt matter to me i have to work

[calm umbra]

playable small buns confirmed

[frozen shoal]

I wonder if the game gets back up in hour since thats when weekly reset is

[steel tusk]

in that distant memory he called them "too stiff" but for the life of me I can't find where it is

[steel tusk]

probably not? even if it's sizeable it should be emptying quickly

[haughty crater]

"Treasure coffers that appear upon completing Pandæmonium: Asphodelos will not yield gear, but instead yield tokens that can be traded for gear of your choosing. You can only receive one token per circle of Pandæmonium: Asphodelos each week. In the event you are awarded a token from the loot list, you relinquish your right to vie for all remaining tokens regardless of whether you selected Need or Greed."

[steel tusk]

since the servers are starting from pop 0

[haughty crater]

But some of the items need multiple tokens so... how does that work?

[calm umbra]

I kind of hope they don't make them playable because then the whole game will just be 100% loporits, but then again we could have a game of 100% loporits so it wouldn't be all bad

[steel tusk]

I think Mr. Happy had a guide up for that

[haughty crater]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNSIs2j3NeM

the video in question

[steel tusk]

ah yes sorry

[haughty crater]

They say you had to clear a boss 7 weeks in a row to get your weapon??

Isnt that a bit silly

[south flare]

yeah uh what

[late aurora]

You do each fight once a week

[fluid basalt]

it's the same thing every patch cycle... nothing new

[proud parrot]

Furthermore, with the introduction of Allagan tomestones of astronomy, the number of tomestones required for weapons exchange has been reduced from 1,000 to 500. <-- which weapons are they talking bout here?

[fluid basalt]

which weapons require 1000 right now?

[proud parrot]

none

[haughty crater]

was the aphorism weapon really 1000?

[proud parrot]

so is it the new ones, would that mean we dont have to get the 7 parts?

[late aurora]

We arent getting astronomy yet either

That’s Savage

[fluid basalt]

you sure?

[haughty crater]

yes its in the patch notes

2 weeks before astronomy unlocks

[proud parrot]

so they will only be 500 instead, means we can get more parts instead of saving 2½ weeks

[haughty crater]

I dont understand the 7 weapon parts thing though or the token drops really. The bosses dont drop real loot at all?

[ember steeple]

the tokens are the loot

[fluid basalt]

on top of the equipment tokens

you use the tokens to buy equipment in Radz

[proud parrot]

each boss drops 8 parts and some parts need 2 or 4, so you technically have to get a chest piece on all boss fights to get a chest armor on the first week

[haughty crater]

well like the EX trials dropped both gear and "sorry you missed your gear drop" pity tokens

[late aurora]

That’s how ShB raids work

So that’s how EW raids work

[ember steeple]

ex trials and raids are different as raids have weekly lockouts

ex trials do not have any

[proud parrot]

you are not guaranteed the parts apart from the sword token you get on the last boss

[haughty crater]

I mean I could kill every boss 50 times each or something to guarantee it but doesnt that seem silly

[ember steeple]

you'd have to be incredibly unlucky, you get a pile of different drops to roll on per floor (4 I believe)

[proud parrot]

8

was it not 8 parts in eden?

[late aurora]

It was 8

[ember steeple]

8 then, and everyone else is subject to weekly lockouts too

[haughty crater]

its just weird that you would kill a boss and nobody in your group gets anything they can equip

🤔

[late aurora]

Do you not like content?

[ember steeple]

you just need to do all the floors to get something

[haughty crater]

Im sure the fights are going to be really fun 😄

But I think they could use a better designed system thats more intuitive

🙂

[fluid basalt]

ffxiv loves its tokens

[ember steeple]

you will get something, 8 drops, 8 players, everyone will get at least something if they decide to roll

[fluid basalt]

so many tokens

heh 8 drops... but everyone ignores accessories

luckily no more belts

[haughty crater]

Yeah I dont want 6 types of tokens in my bags and a weapon token telling me I MUST raid this boss every week xD

[orchid nimbus]

Yeah it's weird at first but there is a good reason for it.

[ember steeple]

yeah accessory tokens are a 1:1 thing

[fluid basalt]

can't wait to see players waiting around not rolling for tokens for as long as possible

[ember steeple]

6 types of tokens are a lot better than holding onto a ton of gear coffers I assure you

[late aurora]

!faq edenloot

[lusty shadow]

Eden raids normal mode drop table

[late aurora]

Look at that

[proud parrot]

another think remember this is normal mode

thing*

[fluid basalt]

most people will be aiming for chest and legs pieces

[late aurora]

And look both have 2 drops on floors 3 & 4, crazy how that works out

[haughty crater]

is 1 chest worth hat+boots ??? ahhhhhhh quick open the heckin excel sheet

[ember steeple]

yeah

chest and legs have more stats than either of those

[haughty crater]

But they are combined

[late aurora]

Dude just look up the eden vendor

[frozen shoal]

So if you want the chest piece you just need on chest loot pieces only and run the normal raids as many times until you get 4 total for the week?

[late aurora]

This has been a thing for like a year

[ember steeple]

the tokens don't disappear at the week so, you can just grab what you can first time and pick up the rest next reset

[orchid nimbus]

I usually go Chest(or leg) + accessory on the first weeks

[haughty crater]

its just bad design

[late aurora]

To you

[haughty crater]

but thats ok

[orchid nimbus]

It's not perfect but it works well overall

[frozen shoal]

I think any lockout system is dumb but thats just me, guess it is what it is

[fluid basalt]

tryhards will run the same raids as many times as possible to get chest/legs tokens

[ember steeple]

it's a way to have the normal raids always be full with people looking to do it first time, get a specific piece or roulettes

[late aurora]

It’s not like it’s permanent

[frozen shoal]

You are pretty much guaranteed to get a chest or leg the first week if you try for it yeah?