retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[strange wing]

Okay but||, why do you want all your friends to die? ||

[trail yarrow]

i mean you could call it that. but i would say fusing with a primal that not even ultima can deal with kinda makes him sorta OP?

[chilly bluff]

||He gave himself the Echo, basically. We're shown way back in 2.2 with the Sahagin priest that soul transfer is a function of the Echo. Zenos was fully intending to die then and there. But then he woke up in some random body. He didn't do it on purpose. It just kind of happeend. Then he decided to roll with it.||

[naive kelp]

I don't I want there to be high stakes and there just wasn't any througb out the majority of the story

[sand tiger]

zero stakes. and the stakes that dared not being zero were burned immediatly so that the power of friendship could prevail.

[trail yarrow]

i actually wished that ||WoL-Zenos|| hurt some of our friends really bad. would make it better imo. like take one or two out of commission

[naive kelp]

Yep we get a whole lot of dialogue about hope

I think the theme of this expansion is hope I'm not sure though might have flew over my head

[strange wing]

Personally I don't find anything wrong with that. If the story was 90% dread and death then I probably wouldn't enjoy it as much

[sand tiger]

please. hinder me from going on a rant about the absolute hilarity that are the irrelevant monologues that happen during the cutscenes.

[trail yarrow]

nah, feel free. although, #rants seems to be more suitable for that

[unborn lake]

I liked the story 🙂

[copper delta]

I mean, it's kinda fallacious to think people need to die, especially main characters, for the story to have stakes, but i do agree that from start to finish the stakes were zero, haha

[naive kelp]

Bruh at the end where ||everyone started sacrificing themselves so we could move on each delivering their own monologue hahaha I cried of laughter man||

[strange wing]

Although they did kick themselves a bit when ||Y'shtola is like "DON'T WORRY YOU CAN REZ US IN LIKE 5 MINUTES" in all caps. That did ruin things a bit in Ultima Thule.||

But not every story is perfect, and this story is far from perfect. But still enjoyed it.

[sand tiger]

they don't need to die. but a sense of danger helps convey how perilious the situation is and that you actually are accomplishing something nobody else could've done.

[trail yarrow]

i didn't meant die. but maybe injure one or two bad enough to actually make it kinda worth it? like, that was one of the hardest one i have ever done and it didn't make it worth it to me

[lunar hound]

||I feel like there was a version of that story where they didn't foreshadow their return that heavily and their test audience just could not handle it <.<||

[sand tiger]

I mean, it's a trope. And I can appreciate it for that. But sometimes, I am... I dunno... I have a hard time not thinking that somebody on the writing team lacked any sense of self-awareness.

[strange wing]

||It's one set of scenes that I would have preferred a more darker tone.||

[trail yarrow]

like.. all that urgency and anxiousness about your friends and the camp being hurt aaaaaaannnddd nothing

[sand tiger]

the whole point of the expansion is that there cannot be light if there is no darkness to contrast it. the story has no darkness.

[strange wing]

Story has plenty tho

[lunar hound]

||Oh I agree, but the more I think about it the likelier I find the "we couldn't handle that much darkness" theory viable||

[trail yarrow]

like.... threw a sword and defeated ||WoL-Zenos|| by pulling a roman reigns 😄

[sand tiger]

no. it doesn't. because we already know the darkness that is shown will be overcome.

[strange wing]

||Thavnir, Garlemald, Ultima Thule are all pretty daark||

[naive kelp]

They are?

[strange wing]

||We see no less than three suicides in Garlemald||

[sand tiger]

Garlemald, in my opinion, was the best part of the expansion.

[naive kelp]

I agree

[trail yarrow]

Wait... I remember poop leader. thats it. i dont remember anyone else

[naive kelp]

I loved the music that played in gsrlemald and the atmosphere just enhanced it

[strange wing]

||Did you forget when Someone's kid turned into a Blasphemy and was immediately squished to death by a huge monster in Thavnair? Or that entire scene where Mansa is running through the jungle holding the baby.||

[sand tiger]

because the suffering we get shown is so relateable. but we know it would be overcome, as this suffering, this "darkness" is just a symptom. we are not actually struggling with it. ||not even the twins are, being very quick to overcome the trauma that is seeing young people rather killing themselves than trusting a supposed enemy with best intentions in mind||

[strange wing]

I really love when the dumb Imperial theme made a comeback on the radio

[naive kelp]

It was still a generic maybe we're the bad guy trope but It was a nice change from constantly being hailed as the warrior of light

[sand tiger]

it's these weird discrepancies between our own emotional reactions and the reactions the characters show that point at how pacing is an issue.

[naive kelp]

I can't remember thavnair and the scene where Manda was running with the baby I mean I had no attachment to that character whatsoever so I didn't really care ngl

[strange wing]

Which is why I go back to the whole "FF story only works if you are emotionally invested".

[naive kelp]

Call me evil I kinda laughed when the woman got yeeted

[trail yarrow]

i actually did. i am sorry but that was hilarious.

[sand tiger]

I'd go even further and say, that FF works with certain motives and themes that hit entirely differently if you are not acquainted with japanese culture.

[strange wing]

Hmm, probably yea.

[naive kelp]

Yea it was haha

[trail yarrow]

woah. this is the first dungeon i got where i got instant as sage

[strange wing]

I do not trust Sage healers anymore

[trail yarrow]

that hurts. why

[sand tiger]

tbf, being shield mitigation healers, they play differently and demand the group to be aware of how they work.

[charred minnow]

Endwalker's theming hit me on a personal level for personal reasons, so I kinda struggle to view it objectively, but I concede it has problems

[strange wing]

Just a bunch of bad roulettes. I am pretty much forced to play a Paladin if I wanna have a good time.

[sand tiger]

I can see that. some themes definitly can hit super hard.

[naive kelp]

Yea that's fine not trying to take that away from you but from an objective standpoint it does have alot of problems

[charred minnow]

Yeahh

[strange wing]

If you suffer from Existential Dread that last act can really fuck you up.

ESPECIALLY the dungeon.

[sand tiger]

but it's more the tone of the worldbuilding than the actual narrative that screws with your head.

Garlemald on the other hand.... I cannot imagine anybody not struggling with some of those themes touched upon in the narrative.

[charred minnow]

Garlemald was rough, yeahh

[sand tiger]

yet again. on an emotional level.

the actual narrative, while delightfully concise in Garlemald wasn't anything to write home about.

[naive kelp]

I think that's just a recurring theme at this point

[sand tiger]

true, apologies.

[naive kelp]

Doesn't help when the quests are a chore to play through too

But I guess that's subjective

[strange wing]

||Vibe checking the scientists was pretty bad.||

[fluid basalt]

omg 12 hours later and this boss fate still hasn't spawned wtf

[strange wing]

But then ||you get the scene with Urianger and Moen's parents, and there is a good chance you cry so hard you forget about that quest. Probably. I know I did.||

[sand tiger]

I totally didn't. I was furious at Urianger for not facing this.

[naive kelp]

Bruh I was so pissed off I spent 20 mins looking for the last guy

[sand tiger]

tbf, I was mostly furious about this fake "old english" nonsense they have him drawl. But I don't want to get into that

[naive kelp]

Can you elaborate I'm interested

[strange wing]

I love how no one, not a single soul, speaks like he does in Sharlyan

He's just a huge nerd.

[fluid basalt]

liars like words

[naive kelp]

Oh the way urianger speaks? God half the time I'm trying to understand what he's trying to say it's so cryptic

[sand tiger]

very, VERY short: those idiomes and figures of speach they have urianger and sometimes Y'shtola apply to suggest a rather stilted kind of "old english" is nonsense. nobody ever talked like that. people who apply such a lyrical approach to language in their colloquial conversation with pathological notority like Urianger does hint at the need to either visit a logopedist or a therapist.

[worn forge]

He does it because he admittedly believes it makes him cooler, this is the same dude that Yugioh posed after trying out his fresh set of AST cards; he’s a dweeb and that’s just part of his character

[sand tiger]

even dweebs tend to fall out of character when in distress.

[strange wing]

When you've been Larping for decades you just become the Larp

[lone fiber]

my wol desperately wants to understand urianger, she really does

[sand tiger]

pretty much. hardcore larping until the very end.

I so, SO wished for Y'shtola to be suddenly fed up and addressing Uri with "me thinketh thee shalt visit a logopedist, you posing fuck".
"fuck" is entirely appropriate.

[naive kelp]

Yea well I mean yshtola is yshtola and will never develop unless its developing into being yshtola

[sand tiger]

"Y'shtola. Y'shtola never changes"

[naive kelp]

Lmfao

I swear she's the same person since arr

[fluid basalt]

that's because she is

[sand tiger]

I love me a consistent catgirl.

[naive kelp]

Actually

She gets a new outfit here and there, character development on point pack it up lads

[lone fiber]

she doesnt need to change shes perfect

[fluid basalt]

hope she finds a way to go back to the First. ShB areas feel so cut off from EW

[lone fiber]

how can you improve upon perfection? you cant

[strange wing]

The most interesting thing about Y'shtola this expansions is how badly she wants to go back to ||Runar||

[sand tiger]

you may not like how peak catgirl performance look like but this is what you get

[charred minnow]

Do the aetheryte that makes you sick thing but between worlds

[hollow wraith]

I have a question.
During ||The Dark Inside|| trial I have encountered a bug with the ||astral flow mechanic, in which the arrows which indicate direction are the opposite of what they should be||
I swear to god I am not making this up

[naive kelp]

I still can't believe they really screwed arenvald over, first with the expansion and now him not even showing up

[hollow wraith]

has anyone else encountered this

[fluid basalt]

arenvald ||is in the healer role quest. he's quite a major character there||

[hollow wraith]

it was after a couple wipes

[naive kelp]

I think that's actually just how it is, it's actually how I was trying to learn how to do the mechanics

[naive kelp]

Ahhhh poor guy delegated to side content and healer side content at that

[sand tiger]

I like the sidecontent more than the grandiose shite.

[hollow wraith]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one

[strange wing]

Hanging out with THE BOYS in the melee DPS rolequests was fun

[charred minnow]

Physical ranged was fun

[strange wing]

Geomancer confirmed

[naive kelp]

Yea it's a bit of a weird mechanic to get used to and tbh I'm still not even used to it, my smooth brain can't handle it

[fluid basalt]

that's what happens ||when you're not a Scion/Ancient|| sigh

[hollow wraith]

if you're struggling with the mechanic, I would suggest just following the mob, and eventually it will click

[naive kelp]

Maybe it's all about the scions/ascian we made along the way

[naive kelp]

Yea doing the ex fight I just follow the others

[wind bough]

The arrows indicate ||which way the AoEs will travel||

[copper delta]

Last trial spoiler: ||YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME. FUCKING ZENOS AGAIN HOLY SHIT. I AM BOTH AMAZED AND BAFFLED BY THIS LUNATIC. AND THEY DARE MAKE HIM OUR SAVIOR IN OUR TIME OF NEED? FUUUUUU. This is beyond good and bad writing, this is transcendance. ||

[wind bough]

It’s poggers is what it is

[fluid basalt]

the afterthought personified

[narrow ember]

That character gets you, they know what you are beyond title and pretenses. I think that's kinda cool about them

[strange wing]

BEST BOY

[granite nimbus]

||Zenos is a static, one-dimensional pure evil villain... which makes him stand out among all the other nuanced villains in the story.||

||His self-confidence is unshakable, his goals shallow and petty, he can barely be reasoned with. He's nothing but destruction incarnate willing to burn the world down if it gets him the thrill he's looking for.||

[fluid basalt]

||if he were written better, people won't hate on stormblood as much.||

[granite nimbus]

||And yet, he's not really a petty sadist either and genuinely believes he has a connection with the WoL. He's able to cut past pretenses, titles, and lofty aspirations, while digging to the core of what makes the WoL: an adventurer.||

[narrow ember]

I hate stormblood cuz Ala Mhigo was an afterthought

[granite nimbus]

||In that final duel, he's speaking as much to the player as he is to his fated rival.||

[trail yarrow]

how is trust on lv89 trial?

[granite nimbus]

||Pure evil villains have a place in fiction and Zenos manages to be an entertaining one amidst the sea of grey that FFXIV operates on.||

[narrow ember]

It's practically a free clear

[granite nimbus]

||Pretty good imo, but expect Estinien to floor tank a lot.||

[trail yarrow]

i wonder how ill do as a sage 😄

i hope it doesnt take forever like in shb

[short edge]

Very fun fight! Played through all of EW as sage

[trail yarrow]

oops.. i wiped with the trust 😄

[elder marsh]

is it generally agreed that EW beats shb by a lot?

[jolly sierra]

It's really divisive

[tropic frigate]

There seems to be a bit of a mix i have recognized but currently i dont know the real total

[jolly sierra]

Endwalker is super hit or miss. Massive fuckin hit with me and the people who I know who were invested in characters

[fluid basalt]

there's no beating because you need to play through all the expansions to get the most out of EW

[elder marsh]

didnt cry during shb but cried during EW

[jolly sierra]

But I also know a lot of people who just didn't care

[dim sigil]

I said this probably like a million times but I am legally required to bring it up every time going through and Walker I could tell this is going to be a controversial expansion

[jolly sierra]

Yeah same here

I had a friend who just didn't care that tiamat was finally freed which is

[elder marsh]

half of EW was...StB levels, and the rest was like...fucking god tier

[dim sigil]

It's just the pattern
HWwas universally loved
SB was controversial
ShB was universally loved
and now we're at EW

[jolly sierra]

Yeah but no one's claiming SB was a masterpiece. It was just good

Endwalker on the other hand

Unless you're counting 3.5x story then maybe

But really we all know 3.5x is just 4.-1

[elder marsh]

technically EW isnt even over yet. still got 6.1-6.3

[jolly sierra]

Wait numbers
4.5x
5.-1

Yeah but I'm just counting x.0 story

4.0 wasn't a literary masterpiece by any means, but it was pretty good

[narrow ember]

||shb was more character driven, while ew was very interpersonal||

[elder marsh]

i think the ||lopporits|| kinda watered down the enjoyment of the game for me

[fluid basalt]

4.0 loses major points because of zenos

[jolly sierra]

|| but somehow 6.0 gains major points because of zenos ||

[hollow sapphire]

Endwalker > Shadowbringers. No, Endwalker is not perfect, but neither was Shadowbringers. Both are great expansions though.

[granite nimbus]

Don't really get the Zenos hate. He's not nuanced and doesn't try to be, so comparing him to Yotsuyu or Emet is like apples to oranges.

[amber canopy]

Thats an interesting opinion. Let me present a counterpoint:

[jolly sierra]

His motives aren't #relatable

[amber canopy]

!faq juicy

[lusty shadow]

Juicy

[dim sigil]

He's supposed to be a meta character kind of I can understand why people might not like him for that

But the strive for better fights better gear all that stuff he is us but if we didn't have social skills or morals

[amber canopy]

To each their own, I found him to be refreshingly different and honest. Need that kind of character to balance out all the goodie boys and girls the game has

[jade relic]

the thing I dont understand was || People saying that his final question made no sense, that we only fight to protect people or whatever. If that were true then why did the WoL make every fight in the eden raid much harder than it actually was, if not for the thrill? ||

[jolly sierra]

I don't like the "zenos is a meta character" argument. Dude just wants to fight and I can respect that

[jolly sierra]

/s

[dim sigil]

It's not even an argument really it's like saying the sky is blue

[granite nimbus]

||Or literally every cutscene where the Warrior smirks while facing a strong opponent. Or when they get asked if they want to jump on a ghost airship full of voidsent and more or less go, "Sign me up!"||

[jade relic]

iirc theres one early game dungeon that we go into - noone asks us to go in there. we get told that everyone that goes in dies, and we just take it on ourselves to go in and check it out

[jolly sierra]

Sorry, no. while it's clear that he definitely reflects a portion of the fanbase, it's an interpretation of his character

[granite nimbus]

Cutter's Cry, yep.

[narrow ember]

Oh If we're talking about which expansion is better, music wise, EW got ShB beat

[jolly sierra]

Unless it was confirmed by a loremaster at sqex then sure I'm wrong

[granite nimbus]

I prefer the whole "Zenos is a mirror to the WoL" interpretation, but I can see how he speaks to the cutscene-skipping player too.

[trail yarrow]

woah three trust wipes. at least i know the mechanics now 😄

[granite nimbus]

You'll get it! Don't worry!

[trail yarrow]

that was really fun. gonna try it with df

[neon wing]

Shb boss music is unbeatable though

[glossy hemlock]

Nothing beats G’raha’s rave tower

[sudden spruce]

Daily reminder that we still dont have ||flow band version||

[tulip geyser]

Now that the fervor has cooled, I enjoyed EW a lot in places, and theres beautiful and terrifying moments that sucked me in, though theres stuff really I Did Not Like too I admit.
||Zenos busting through to the last boss like the godsdamned kool-aid man just about made me cackle in a rather somber few seconds.||

[sudden spruce]

^same but it is what it is

Shb seems more pop rock? Is that what genre is??? Meanwhile ew doing ballads and opera

[granite nimbus]

Really? I liked Triumph more.

DUN DUN DUUUUN DUNDUNDUN DUNDUNDUN!

[sudden spruce]

Nothing beats ||flow for me tho i love it||

[trail yarrow]

Innocence was good

But i like husky and alex's cover more

[granite nimbus]

To be honest, Titania's theme was my favorite boss theme of ShB.

[trail yarrow]

i have a love and hate relationship with that one.

[tulip geyser]

||Aitiascope|| won me for favorite dungeon theme for EW

[sudden spruce]

Its a no for me

[tulip geyser]

For bosses, kinda a toss up, I like them all

[sudden spruce]

I hated hearing tittyex while farming

[trail yarrow]

there are days when i love it and there are days when i absolutely loathe it 😄

[granite nimbus]

It's one of the best songs in the game in terms of matching the feel of the character to the flow of the fight.

[sudden spruce]

I like how the final trial boss mixes every iconic story song

[glossy hemlock]

Emerald weapon has the best theme

[trail yarrow]

not familiar withg that one

[sudden spruce]

The guitar rift for emerald? Banger

[granite nimbus]

It starts with Ultima by The Primals before ||getting a hard rock remix of the Empire's theme after Rex hits Oversoul to turn into a copy of Gaius.||

[glossy hemlock]

https://youtu.be/sKswcDG9cA4

[trail yarrow]

ehich part of the game is that

[granite nimbus]

Sorrow of Werlyt storyline, the trial series for ShB.

[sudden spruce]

Ew gets extra points for building on the musical cues from past expac, hearing tempest again

[glossy hemlock]

Hearing and love you shall find again was also rough every time

[sudden spruce]

Yeah, honestly just the musical cues is enough to make me teary

[glossy hemlock]

The only part I actually cried was.... That scene...

[sudden spruce]

I had and love you shall find playing on my apartment before i got ||flow roll|| now i have those 2 on repeat

[next quarry]

cleared EX2

[glossy hemlock]

When || Urianger met up with Moenbryda’s parents ||

[glossy hemlock]

I just want the ||Garlemald || area Orchestrions because they’re sooo relaxing

[sudden spruce]

Didnt cry, but mainly bc i braced myself for it already

[sudden spruce]

Lofi music to ||garle||mald at

[glossy hemlock]

I could not brace myself I was so shook and honestly in all of EW I really started to think of || Urianger as my || favourite scion.

[tulip geyser]

||Urianger was especially bae this expac.
Emotes on point, and one of the few...only? times you get to talk alone with him and see how he really feels.||

[glossy hemlock]

|| he’s just so sweet and I wanna hold his hand and be his best friend and reassure him ||

[sudden spruce]

One must ask oneself. Did I finish endwalker, ||or did endwalker finish me||?

[wind bough]

||Drunk Urianger tho||

[glossy hemlock]

Yes!! I loved that scene it was so cute especially since afterwards you can see they’re still talking and stuff

[glossy hemlock]

I kinda wanted to || “explore the bottom of the bottle” with Urianger tbh Y’shtola made it sound like a bad thing smh ||

[sudden spruce]

I do love how ||urianger lowkey memes yshtola||

[granite nimbus]

Wonder how many bottles it'll take to get the WoL plastered and what kind of drunk they are.

[tulip geyser]

||Scions not even getting wasted together, what kinda friends are these||

[sand breach]

||do the shards contain other planets? ||

[sudden spruce]

The last time we drank in public

[trail yarrow]

the shards are the other planets is my understanding

[sudden spruce]

If you know then you know

[granite nimbus]

But yeah, the WoL has numerous reasons to be wary of any drink that isn't prepared in front of them.

[trail yarrow]

One did happen in front of him

[sand breach]

that doesnt feel right

[sudden spruce]

It is tho

[granite nimbus]

It's basically a trauma button for them.

[jade relic]

ok this slayed me lmao

[trail yarrow]

it is.

[tulip geyser]

||Didnt we accept a drink this go around tho? When you were asked if you wanted water or tea or something else? (I took tea cause <3)||

[sudden spruce]

Because one whole||planet got split into shards ||

[granite nimbus]

I mean, heck, in ShB, the Warrior hesitates when pouring water for themselves.

[sand breach]

||not the universe? what about the other planets that meteion visits||

[trail yarrow]

the main world was sundered into 13 shards and the source

[sudden spruce]

Cant blame wol imagine||getting yoinked out of party bc you got framed||

[granite nimbus]

And getting drugged right before peace talks and rendering them powerless to stop the ensuing chaos.

[sand breach]

that means that the other planets arent in the shards then no?

[trail yarrow]

those are other stars (planets). separate from where she came from

[sudden spruce]

||eitherys is the original planet inhabited by the amaurotians that got split into 14, there are othe rplanets out there aka the ones meteion and her sisters went to||

[sand breach]

||the shards are only of eitherys then||

[sudden spruce]

Yep

[trail yarrow]

although, i find it weird that they refer to the planet as 'star' cause what do they call the sun

[sand breach]

then that means that this is answered no

[sudden spruce]

The sun

[trail yarrow]

its a weird conundrum. here's my understanding.

when Hydaelyn sundered Eitherys, she divided it into 14 parts: thirteen shards and the source. but never was it mentioned that she also divided the universe. so where exactly are the other shards? you can't really call it parallel worlds because they seem to be in the same universe based on how it was told in the story.

but at the same time, you cannot just travel to the shards without the crystal tower, or rather, it required the exarch to call you using the crystal tower. but you can apparently go to the ||edge of the universe|| .

its weird.

mind you, i still havent finished EW. i just finished lv89 trial so maybe there will be a something relevant to that in the remaining msq

[sudden spruce]

Yeah i wonder how far apart are the shards from each other? Like is it a tangible distance?? Theres also the fact that other shards operate on a different time so its possible some are on a different plane??

[sand breach]

i still think its in different planes

[trail yarrow]

yeah. its a weird plot hole..

cause if you can go to the edge, what makes it impossible to go to the shards?

[trail yarrow]

but the game specifically mentioned just the planet was sundered and the life inside it. or at least that's what i remember.

[sand breach]

maybe its like a 4d cube; crystal tower can turn it several degrees by pure aethyric might

[sudden spruce]

And since ||ryne can also sense the doom from the edge|| idk if its channeled from ||the source or if the edge also exists for the first||

[trail yarrow]

yeah, that's another one

[sand breach]

and in that way we can extend the analogy to a cube being shattered into 6 faces or something that can lay flat on a 2 plane

i hope the raid series explains a bit more then

[trail yarrow]

also, if its on different universes, how would the connection established during the calamity happen? i do not think the fire from a shard can travel between universes

[sudden spruce]

So uh given how we saw how ||azems crystal operate this expac, is it safe to assume that the hades we summoned during wol fight is actually hades and not some backup fail safe copy||?

[sand breach]

also this is part of 5.3 but how exactly is the emet shade there conjured (Seat of Sacrifice)?

[wind bough]

The shards are the planet in alternate dimensions. As far as we understand it, this phenomenon is localised to Etheirys.

[sand breach]

i was thinking about how ||emet would remember as he dies and does that change anything context wise|| lvl87 spoilers

[wind bough]

So they’re small pocket dimensions overlapped with Etheirys which just contain a planet + moon

[wind bough]

Alphinaud:
You said that an ancient came to your aid. But how is that possible?
Y'shtola:
A gift from Emet-Selch. He knew of Elidibus's plight. Foreseeing his own death, he made provisions to bring Elidibus's suffering to an end, lest his friend be left to continue the struggle alone.
Or so I wildly speculate. It is unlikely we will ever know the truth.

[sand breach]

ah

[wind bough]

I.e. it’s a spell woven into the Azem stone

[mental tangle]

Hey i know this guy

[trail yarrow]

that makes sense i suppose. but those stars in the sky in the first reflection. iguess it could be in similar context as Labyrinthos?

[wind bough]

Don’t worry too much about it

It should be noted that the night sky on the First is identical to that of the Source

[inner halo]

ummmmm

[wind bough]

As for how light travels from the stars to the First across a dimensional barrier, ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[inner halo]

I'll leave the WHM in her hands

[wind bough]

Just an absolute idiot

[trail yarrow]

uhhh what dungeon is that

[inner halo]

uhh dammit i forgot the name, its around lv43ish dungeon where its all snowy

[trail yarrow]

i mean. it just kinda breaks the lore to me 😄

[wind bough]

Stone Vigil

[sand breach]

steonevigil

[inner halo]

ahh stonevigil

[trail yarrow]

huh

is cure 1 even usable at that dungeon? i think i stopped using cure 1 before that

[inner halo]

hold on i got another screenshot

[tulip geyser]

The good old Stone Vigil slap

[glossy hemlock]

Please just get rid of cure 1 please god

[trail yarrow]

yeah. i dont really think cure 1 should be used at that point. or maybe that's just me
😄

[tulip geyser]

I wish it turned into II (with various equivs across the healers) at a certain point. Gimme a button space.

[glossy hemlock]

Right

[trail yarrow]

you can use the arrow

[tulip geyser]

But syncs

[inner halo]

Cure I is really useless in mid-game, but using this as a last resort if you burnout of mp for rezzing people

[trail yarrow]

i made two hotbar 1

one for synced under a specific dungeon level and one main

[inner halo]

I dunno about making Cure Mastery, because Cure II with cheap 400 MP would be too broken?

[trail yarrow]

if you are rezzing so much somehting is wrong, imo

the only time i rezzed so much was with lb3

[inner halo]

It's just DPS and tank failing at every mechanics

[trail yarrow]

i mean.. that's a personal problem of theirs 😄

i just do my best cause people failing the mechanics over and over again seem to be mad when you give them tips

[inner halo]

Just don’t stack with another stack marker, done

[tulip geyser]

I havent played in a couple days because work is killing me but there has been quite a bit of rezzing in ||The Mothercrystal,|| definitely

[trail yarrow]

wait... does the ||will to live|| apply on df?
or is that trust exclusive

[inner halo]

However, 75% of new players don’t read the chat (they don’t own their keyboard usbs on their ps4/Ps5, so they wouldn’t bother communicate with anyone)

[tulip geyser]

Pretty sure thats a trust thing

[trail yarrow]

ah. this is the second time i have done trust since ShB so not too sure.

[tulip geyser]

Got clipped like a dumbass when learning stuff so thats how I found out

[trail yarrow]

i can see why people will rez a lot on lv89 trial. shit's crazy. even i wiped 3x with trust lol

[gaunt star]

[sand breach]

lvl87 stuff ||to clarify, goth meteion is the cause for the final days both times?||

[tulip geyser]

||Its mostly the fact that if someone makes a mistake before something else goes off they're just going to die unless you have bene or ED and fast fingers as you yourself are getting safe||

||Still not as scary as Zodiark stack||

[trail yarrow]

it kinda sad that sage dont have bene-like skill. i got used to having that as my escape

[trail yarrow]

oh yeah. no, that one was the worst one. we wiped so many times, its not even funny

[sand breach]

after sch and excog not proccing b/c the tank was 51% hp and needed 60% hp ive gotten used to not having it

[tulip geyser]

You have your "good luck Im behind 7 proxies" shields, thats almost one, lol

[gaunt star]

Panhaima is a life saver

[trail yarrow]

those two super shields are nice, ngl. saved my ass so many times

it helped me get through ||Zodiark's|| trial lol

[sudden spruce]

I dont enjoy ||zodiark stack on ast when my cohealer dies right before stack and my 2 ogcds regen are on cd||

[glossy hemlock]

Lmao

[main umbra]

Healer adjust

And pray ur melee dps use bloodbath

[sudden spruce]

I hate having to spam helios just to prevent death, i literally havent touched ot until this trial...its on the far edge of my hotbar unbound

[glossy hemlock]

You know they already used it because they greeted and stood in like two AOE

[sudden spruce]

And at that point i dont have macrocosmos yet

[tulip geyser]

||Yeah if you had micro at that point it wouldnt be so bad but like
Stack seems to be very specifically after a couple things to punish for people bein' dead||

[main umbra]

Wait how does he even die before the mechanic

[slender siren]

Wait what!?!

Actually this is no surprise since it’s Sony

[glossy hemlock]

Lmao

[main umbra]

Ff7 fan in shambles when they realize that ff7 strongest part was nostalga

[jade relic]

CBU3 is the only good dev unit in square enix, change my mind

[sudden spruce]

I adjust by using aspected/star for most things, gonna save my 2 ogcd regens for stack even if it hurts to not use it when available

[tulip geyser]

Yeah I just hold stuff now until I know my partner is basically fine.
||And also me because my brain goes full dial up modem at sneks||

[slender siren]

Nier automata was horrible on Pc so it’s no surprise Sony fucked up the port again

[sudden spruce]

Just having 2 dps out of the stack, i can notice how much more damage tick it is. I hope people understand that you HAVE to stack for this one unlike old content

[tulip geyser]

^^^
||Whereas for Mothercrystal I can and have quite easily done that alone with like eh, quite a few dead
Zodi? Nope||

[glossy hemlock]

Can’t get over it tbh it’s really not the best ff game IMO but it’s the first one most people played so

[inner halo]

I’ll recommend FF: SoP on PC

[mellow spade]

So which shadowbringers weapons have crafted counterparts or is it just hades?

[pulsar current]

just hades

[mellow spade]

Damn

[pulsar current]

byakko came out in 4.2 and it JUST got a crafted weapon in 5.5

so it takes a bit of time lol

[mellow spade]

Yeah that's fair

i just want cool new weapons haha.

[pulsar current]

me too

no glowy for reaper feelsbadman

[sand breach]

i wish msq duties would let you rearrange the hotbar they give you

it really feels terrible because mynormal hobar is upside down

[sand breach]

did u read the article LOL its literally a joke

[gaunt star]

So, this pre-Endwalker meme that I had became that much more accurate so far. Though, the first two portions of the role of Zodiark and Hydalean should be switched.

[slender siren]

Do you have it?

[eager field]

Love the story of EW damn

[patent estuary]

Is there a finale quest in EW for doing all 5 role quests like in ShB?

[pulsar current]

not yet, but soon

[sand breach]

its by pcgamer

https://www.pcgamer.com/final-fantasy-7-remakes-pc-port-is-a-major-disappointment/

other than reiterating a tweet it doesnt say much other than pad the word count

[trail yarrow]

with the article aside, i am not surprised, tbh.

[slender siren]

So it’s bad?

[vital timber]

Doesn't look like it but the options to customize the settings is so limited that not everyone will have a smooth experience

[slender siren]

[tidal mauve]

yeah motion blur can't be turned off

[gusty quiver]

Then its bad

[tidal mauve]

i should be fine since i got a 1080ti

[slender siren]

Maybe we’re gonna fight Cecil next

[tidal mauve]

which it was optimized for i think

[trail yarrow]

oh man. the song on that fight was a blast

[tropic frigate]

This may have been asked in the past but does the game feel more responsive to anyone else? Because it felt a whole lot more in ew

Like i use to complain i couldnt play mch due to my ping but its suddenly fully playable now

I never changed internet or anything and usually you expect launches to be laggy

[waxen karma]

The Bozja story was effectively concluded via the lore text that drops from Bozja zones. I forget the specific ones it is detailed in, but it gets updated after finishing the Bozja questline to include the conclusion of that story. When asked about it, Yasumi Matsuno, the scenario writer for the questline confirms that the questline and story is finished. There are hints that there was more planned, but Matsuno said, “Unfortunately, that plan has disappeared.”

[dawn plume]

oof i didnt know that

with how it was set up i thought it would continue into endwalker
man thats sad

thx for answering

i mean i can kinda understand why mechanical wise
forcing people to do sb allaince raid into all of bozja and zadnor just to do current endwalker content
is probably a really harsh tradeoff

[waxen karma]

Like I said the other day, I hope whatever exploratory content EW sees does not meet with the same complications that ended the Bozja story in this presumably premature way

[dawn plume]

and without it being some kind of major content it would probably not have the resources

[waxen karma]

Looking it up, the conclusion is written in the Noah van Gabranth's codex entry

[dawn plume]

yeah it says atleast lyon is still alive
and may appear in the future

he was the best charakter anyway so fine by me lul

[waxen karma]

Which led many to believe that that was the plan, but as said by Matsuno, "Unfortunately, that plan has dissappeared."

[dawn plume]

i mean id say the plan disappearing was before they released the additional entries

and the entries are basically what was planned
with keeping a potential lyon return for the future open

if it may seem fit potentially going forward into arc 2

but thats just guessing

[dawn plume]

lol thats harsh

[waxen karma]

Another arc or continuation of the story just won't happen

"The conclusion of the Save the Queen: Blades of Gunnhildr plot in Final Fantasy XIV will not appear in-game, as the writer will not return to continue writing for it. According to Matsuno on Twitter, the plot is complete due to the liberation of the Bozja."

[dawn plume]

oof sounds really like some bad blood developed

[waxen karma]

I doubt anyone really knows what happened, and anyone that does likely cannot explain in detail either. A mystery

[gaunt star]

Okay. Just give the Star to the Lopis-rabbits. They're adorable and deserve EVERYTHING.

"My name is Puddingway." Goddamnit. Just stole my heart.

[grand olive]

Hii, is there a way to get back the job gear if i discard it? These sets are filling my inventory and I don't want them anymore lol but I might want them for glamour in future :D!

[gaunt star]

Pretty sure you can get them back from the Calamity Salvager in any of the three main cities.

[grand olive]

Okie, thanks :D! I will check

[gaunt star]

No problemo, Fam.

[grand olive]

Mm I don't see it there, unless I'm blind xD!

[jolly sierra]

Can't you rebuy it from the original npc

[gaunt star]

It's not in the job gear option? Hm... I might be misremembering or maybe it changed. Try #questions-and-help . Someone more knowledgeable is bound to help.

[grand olive]

Oh maybe you can rebuy it from the original npc but I can't because I haven't discarded any yet?

[jolly sierra]

Iirc the text that """prevents""" you from rebuying it just says owned

[trail yarrow]

bro, what is this horror film i am watching. shit's scarier than the conjuring 😄

[jolly sierra]

So I assume so

[grand olive]

Mm okie :D! Thanks that might be it lol

[jolly sierra]

See if gerolt on the first lets you rebuy them? Should be the same system

[marsh stag]

I'm at level 87 quest ||so wait is Hermes Fandaniel? Like the Fandiel who partnered with Zenos?||

[slate ridge]

i just realized it now but ||i think the names of the loporrits are a reference to the name of the hummingway race they're based on||

[grand olive]

Yeah I can rebuy it from there, so you're probably right, thank you :D!

[jolly sierra]

[mint sail]

||Hermes was the Fandaniel at the time of their Final Days||

[marsh stag]

But is he ||THAT Fandinel||

[vital timber]

||No, he is not the same Fandaniel. But he inherited some of what was left of the previous Fandaniel that led him to initiate the Final Days. ||

[marsh stag]

...what?

[gaunt star]

In the new anti-tower (spoilery just in case) ||which person helps us who swings an axe? in german it says it is someone who saw the wol as a "mentor" but I cannot figure it out who it could be, my wildest guess would be the husband of edda ?
Also which characters next to haurchefant and ysaile are appearance? My memories don't serve me well||

[half phoenix]

||Moenbryda||

[gaunt star]

||wait she swings an axe and also saw us as a mentor? when did I overslept THAT or do you mean she will come next to axe swinger?||

[half phoenix]

||Papalymo is the staff, Haurchefant is the shield, Shiva blocking curtain call is Ysayle, and Minfilia.... does nothing?||

||I believe we were her senior in terms of adventuring and combat||

[gaunt star]

||Minfilia like everytime totally on point||

[vital timber]

||The Fandaniel we know today is one of the Sundered. Amon is one such fragment. ||

[gaunt star]

Okay, next question because I was really confused by that, dungeon 89:
||The amon we fight sounds like hermes, but it is amon right? because they talk after defeat like hermes not like amon I am so confused||

[vital timber]

||Think of Amon as like a reincarnation of Hermes. ||

[gaunt star]

||Really? It sounded from Hades more like "yeah you are creative how about you get the soul of hermes||

[sudden spruce]

||we're basically like amon right? A sundered shard||

[gaunt star]

||It might be better to think of it this way: Everyone who is sundered isn't exactly the same across all the shards. In fact, most of them, (from what I can tell) represent aspects of the whole that once existed in the first, unsundered world. And the fragments can exist/live at different times and different ways.||

||It'd be like if someone took your love for a particular type of music and made it into a person.||

||That is not to say that part of you would act in the same way as the whole of you would. Perhaps you like death metal, so that sundered part of you might try to spread sorrow/rage/darkness, even if your whole self would be like "nah, fam. Just keep that in music."||

[gaunt star]

ooooh, okay thank you so much!

[gaunt star]

No problemo!

[trail yarrow]

this place... this place is dark... i did not think this game can be as dark as this. very heavy...

[gaunt star]

Perhaps! I don't really think it's that dark, personally. ||I rather enjoy investigations on the question of identity.||

[trail yarrow]

mmhmm... i was just surprised. i think this is the darkest the game has been. very interesting

[gaunt star]

Aaaaah!

[astral bison]

omg i just finished the endwalker storyline, and my only question is that how a story can be sooooo damn good? It is a masterpiece.

[gaunt star]

Thats not how it works lol

[gleaming bough]

hmmm why does the mini omega star at the ark so intently

then again..... it does resemble || omega tech||

[waxen karma]

I'm not sure I understand what you mean?

[gleaming bough]

ok

when you are about to go to the final zone on the ark, miniature/toy omega is there

the text state the toy omega is staring at the ark intently

oh yeah alpha is there too

ill assume mini omega and alpha wont be there if you did not complete the omega raids.....

[waxen karma]

It was implied that Omega somehow still exists inside the toy Omega so that Omega can learn in their and Alpha's travels and whatnot.

Omega and Alpha have been featured in a lot of cutscenes as background characters since O12 released. Why they are there in that moment though dunno, maybe they're traveling with the Ironworks now

Maybe it was intentional though considering what you learn in the final zone

[inner halo]

E

They're not my friends nor fc mates btw

[hoary dagger]

||Maybe Omega originated from the omicrons? And he senses their presence in the Ultima Thule. Even in the Omicron themed expert dungeon, there’s a proto omega boss||

[gaunt star]

at the end of 89 dungeon ||why did they add yotsugis brother? what does it add to the story aside he is a zenos simp who would drown in his bathwater?||

[half phoenix]

||Just him being spiteful about Fandaniel using his body||

[glossy hemlock]

There was no reason lol

They just decided to do it

[weary rampart]

||like Rakarrak said, he is not happy someone using his body ||

[fluid basalt]

dammit after 20 hours.... this boss fate finally spawned

[half phoenix]

3-4 days is average

[inner halo]

I understand new healers dont want to dps but...they can't do that for long

Especially no more using cure I

[half phoenix]

???

What about Cure 1?

[inner halo]

Would you like to use Cure I in lv90 content when Tank's hp is at 25%?

[half phoenix]

The phrasing just made it sound like it didn’t exist XD

[glossy hemlock]

Lmao

[thorny flax]

||I'm so sad that FFXIV-1 is over... finally we get hangout scenes with the scions and then they made them irrelevant for the future content||

[gleaming bough]

Well we have ||stars and shards || to explore

as zenos have said himself || we are adventurers||

[thorny flax]

I hope we can spend more time with already established characters. Ishikawa did an amazing job in Endwalker and Shadowbringers in terms of showing relationships between the characters

[steady ingot]

wow, i don't think you can solo the 1st boss of The Lost City of Adampor anymore

[wet crown]

I'd rather have a new main cast for 7.0.

[steady ingot]

1 spit will kill even the tank ......

[thorny flax]

I really liked the idea of the escort quests in terms of allowing us to spend more time with certain characters but they need to appear in a smaller number and with more dialogue and cutscenes

[wet crown]

With a bit more diversity than an Elezen overload and everyone having white hair

[gleaming bough]

ishikawa is perfect for the last 2 expac

but im not sure if she is good for the next expac, assuming its going to be an adventure style || on another stars or shard || i presume

[thorny flax]

I hope the next expansion is more about world building and overall lore, because Oda is really good at this kind of stuff

||especially when it might be about dragons again after what Emet and Estinien teased||

||Heavensward is Oda's baby so he deserves to write the msq of the "sequel"||

[brave cargo]

||It's gonna still be on etheriys. Emet literally gave us a list of things to explore on it||

[inner halo]

after finish EW

[thorny flax]

xD

[inner halo]

thats your next objective

[jolly sierra]

:( I wish

[inner halo]

She still won’t stop feeding you anymore quests

[thorny flax]

||Did you guys realize the parallels between Emet, Venat and Azem btw? I love that Emet became an adventurer himself after Amaurot died||

||until he founded garlemald||

||it's actually insane because he did the entire job of the former government alone in the new world||

[jolly sierra]

|| to be fair he already had how many years of experience running a city ||

[thorny flax]

it's still so insane that even after Shadowbringers ||is over this character is still in our heads and Endwalker made him even better||

[indigo shale]

its interesting that hes so well liked considering he is just pure evil

[thorny flax]

yeah I remember him getting a lot of shit in the first month after shadowbringers

[jolly sierra]

I'm just in awe about how endwalker took || so many shitty anime tropes and made them good||

[thorny flax]

until people realized how well written he is

[indigo shale]

like hes well written dont get me wrong, but how can you like someone like him

[jolly sierra]

I can only really think of 2 tbf but

|| people coming back after they die and tsundere||

[thorny flax]

people like him because he's well written. I think no one likes him bc of his actions

Personally I like him because he's well written and a sassy bitch

[indigo shale]

personally i treat those two things as one and the same, though it does eventually cross a line where the actions of a character makes them unlikeable despite how well written they are

and emet is the first villain in any game i can think of where that line has been crossed

[thorny flax]

||Emet definitely got what he deserved. He was even a piece of shit right before he returned back to the planet after the cutscene before the final dungeon||

[weary rampart]

wew , entered wrong EX but somehow manage to die only twice and cleared it

[thorny flax]

||his superiority complex is partly what was responsible for amaurots downfall||

[indigo shale]

||he was still a piece of shit after he returned to the star, even in elpis i didnt get the vibe he was a good person, if hythlodaeus werent around to keep him in check i could see hades becoming like jack the ripper||

[slender siren]

tbh the mechanic is poorly explained when it’s your first time

[weary rampart]

i messed up at wave 2 and the beyblade

[thorny flax]

the new ex weapons are so sick btw

I hope we get glow versions of them

[glossy hemlock]

I mean sorrow of Werlyt was just a bunch of mech anime mashed up

And I thoroughly enjoyed it despite disliking anime

[vocal bear]

||Omg... We still LOTS to discover about the Source! SO MUCH!!! Look at the red circle I drew out to point out where our play-area lies compared to the rest of Hydaelin.||

[fluid basalt]

ilsabard ||reduced to just two zones||... smh

[glossy hemlock]

Tragic

[indigo shale]

||theyll probably add more, bozja, ivalice, werlyt, terncliff and such are ilsabard||

[vocal bear]

||Ivalice is likely at that bottom continent below the three known continents.||

[fluid basalt]

the big island is meracydia?

[indigo shale]

i mean fran points it out on the map in the raids, its definitely not in meracydia

actually nvm its in the east, not ilsabard

[inner halo]

there, thats how i design bunny boys

isnt he handsome

[vital timber]

I'll admit... viera with beards is rare

[wet crown]

Reminds me too much of Akshan

[vital timber]

Here is what I got. What do you think?

[fierce wing]

The special fates feel like world bosses from WoW, its really fun

Everyone camping the specific spot where the boss will spawn, and the instance will state several hundred players

[indigo shale]

its not fun at all

having 400+ players sitting in one spot for 30+ hours who cant do anything else in case they miss it is not fun, its bad game design

[fierce wing]

I just enjoy seeing ppl doing the other fates

which get scalled up to match the players so tehre's a lot of mobs

[thorny flax]

classic wow andies would flame you for this statement xD

bc they love painful shit like this

[pulsar current]

i mean i just had some homies in my fc call it and i grabbed two kills

[indigo shale]

like if someone asks what you did in FFXIV for the past 2 days, saying "i sat on one sqaure for 30 hours waiting for something that didnt spawn" doesnt sell the game well

[inner halo]

Hot

[thorny flax]

during vanilla wow people exchanged phone numbers to call you at 3 am in the morning when the boss spawned. This shit was hilarious

[indigo shale]

and all it does is spawn world wars, for get the rejoining, shiva and zodiark v odin was more devestating

[thorny flax]

so do the new lootboxes you can buy for company seals include the omega 12 s mount?

because it says "mounts and minions introduced in stormblood"

[fierce wing]

dark pegasuss and some other mount

[indigo shale]

i doubt it would include a savage mount

[fierce wing]

1% chance i heard, then minions are 99%

[glossy hemlock]

I already have the black Pegasus lol

That’s the only mount it gives?

[inner halo]

I hate ||Zodiark’s star meteor and battlefield rotation mechanics||

[weary rampart]

33 ex1 totem and counting

[glossy hemlock]

Oof

[weary rampart]

But that was fun

especially the ||bbq line + snake + aoe ||

[inner halo]

We got wiped on normal 3-4 times

[weary rampart]

1st imagine from left to right where the snake are . then u rotate them to new side

they usually appear either on 1 / 3 and 2 / 4

[inner halo]

That’s why I start drawing AoE maps on my paper

[weary rampart]

well that works too

[naive fern]

I wanted to ask something about the mount that costs the bicolor gem vauchers: so 1st I have to do 66 Fates in each EW zone, and only THEN can i start buying the gem vauchers? is this correct?

6x66 = 396 FATEs, and then 50'000 gems (500 vauchers) / 14 (gems per FATE) = 3571 FATEs? Am I thinking about this correctly?

[fluid basalt]

what mount requires that insane amount of grinding

[naive fern]

https://ffxivcollect.com/mounts/273

[fluid basalt]

oh no

[fierce wing]

also the wings

[naive fern]

probably a thing to work on throughout the whole expansion (at least in their plan/theory) BUT what i can't understand is why lock the vaucher sales to only after ~400 fates are done... such a massive waste

[fierce wing]

Demonics wings cost the same as a wivre

[fluid basalt]

hopefully the relic weapons will involve some level of Fate farming

those wings should've been a mount smh

[indigo shale]

probably not, people hated bozja for that, that you could do relic steps with fates and or raids

[fierce wing]

welp nvm i gave up, didnt feel like waiting for it considering i can get the stuff over the whole expansion

Social aspect of waiting feels really good tho

[fluid basalt]

why would people hate more alternatives

look at how dead eureka weapons are compared to zetas/luxes

[fierce wing]

I think it's because they are a measure of an individual's achievement. Providing an alternative path undermines their previous efforts

[urban phoenix]

i see skillissues 😄

[urban phoenix]

excuse me thats is not true at all

people where glad they werent forced into a mind killing farm into a less shittier eureka

also doing it with fates and raids is several time faster than doing it in bozja

[indigo shale]

i saw a lot of complaints against the fact that the relic grind werent just limited for bozja

[wind bough]

tag spoils in here.

[urban phoenix]

so they where just pissed that more people had the weapon and they lost a digital "my wiener is longer than your wiener". i lay my hand in the fire, that bozja wouldnt not have seen like 50% of its playerbase if the relics where bozja only. people hated it in eureka and they would hate it in bozja.

[fierce wing]

ye. i mean if u made ultimate weapons avaliable by trading poetics for it or some other alternative wont people who spent time doing prog be pissed

[indigo shale]

once the next foray comes out anyway people will just go and say that bozja was perfect and they shouldnt have changed it

[urban phoenix]

that is an entirely different thing. ultima weapon skins are for prestige

[fierce wing]

So are relic weapons

[urban phoenix]

nope not at all

the relics where always a doable dumb grind everbody could do.

[indigo shale]

yeah, both aare a grind in different ways

one just grind makes you an asshole and one just makes you bored

[urban phoenix]

while the ultima weapons require skill and dedication.

[fierce wing]

Sounds like your bias

[urban phoenix]

the relic weapon just needs a doc who helps you stay sane

and giving players a reliable alternative which lessens that grind to human levels so you dont need therapy...is a good thing.

[fierce wing]

Feels like you're undermining the time people spent farming relic weapons while idolizing those who cleared ultimates, despite both requiring time and dedication to obtain.

[pulsar current]

carries kinda ruin the "needing to be good" to clear an ulti

"i played 300$ for this shiny weapon that someone else got for me"

tho tbf idolizing anything these days is an exercise in frustration

[thorny flax]

It's extremely frustrating currently. In 3/14 groups for the lvl 83 ex I had at least 1 paypal legend. It's really bad now due to the influx of new players, because we will see more of these players

Square Enix should permaban them and not just taking away the glamour and achievement

they are way too nice regarding this topic

[indigo shale]

eh permabanning doesnt solve anything

[urban phoenix]

i dont? i dont have an ultimate weapon myself and i dont idolize anybody. you just dont make a friend with me asking to take away the relic weapon from the more casual crowd who doesnt want to spend weeks grinding the same fate over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over for 1-2 drops at a 10% chance and you need a whopping 80 of it.

ffxiv is not your korean grinder mmo

[fierce wing]

You'll have to spend weeks progging the ultimate. Time spent is time spent.

[indigo shale]

instead of grinding the same fate over and over, they are farming the same fight over and over its no different

[urban phoenix]

but for ultimates you need skill

you dont need skill to be in a zone standing in a fate spamming your aoe

[fierce wing]

Red chocobo

[urban phoenix]

you only need time and netflix...and a therapy afterwards

[indigo shale]

idk if youve seen ultimate players, but they arent skilled enough to aoe mobs

[fierce wing]

Also what skill, you're just progging.

[urban phoenix]

i seen my fair share of "legend" players who died in the most obivious attack

[indigo shale]

but either way, having a ulimate weapon is no more prestigious than a relic weapon, both require time and dedication

[urban phoenix]

it doesnt matter. bozja was a way bigger sucess than eureka and i have no doubt that we will get a similar path this time too

[fluid basalt]

legend is the new mentor

[urban phoenix]

or else they will have a shitstorm of hate and whining why the majority of their playerbase is locked out from a weapon "just because"

[thorny flax]

I love that Zadnor is still a leveling option. It's something I can farm while I have downtimes during home office.

[fierce wing]

Both relic weapons and ultimate weapons are literally achievements from an individual's time and dedication. Your definition of skill is just them doing the content long enough that they know the mechanic

[urban phoenix]

your wrong in a sense....

[thorny flax]

compared to dungeon farming which I can't do in case I have to suddenly start to work again

[urban phoenix]

ultimate needs you to learn and function as a unit, with other players you need to build up chemistry and all that

i never needed that when i grinded my relic in bozja....run to fate. do fate...rinse repeat.

[fierce wing]

U can already pug savages. idk if ppl tried ultimates

[urban phoenix]

mindless. dumb....frustating.

[fluid basalt]

sounds like ultimate then

[fierce wing]

Seems to me your bad experience w eureka/bozja has led you to bash relic weapons for an alternative method that is easier to obtain for yourself.
While your ultimate experience is non-existent so you view it highly than compared to relic weapons.

my opinion is that, both glowy weapons are just time sinks.

[indigo shale]

lets divert our hate to our new enemy of time sinks, 4000+ fates for one mount

[fierce wing]

u need to do it twice

[indigo shale]

no not that mount the other one

[fierce wing]

demonic wings costs the same amount as that mount.

and u want both don't you?

[indigo shale]

if im farming 50k gems for something ontop of the 400 or so shared fates i already need im only going to do it once and thats for the mount

id rather go to limsa lominsa that do that twice

[fierce wing]

i mean the alternative is, i rather have them decrease the cooldown of the big bosses like indomiatable, chi and the frog suit one

because those fates give 96 gemstones

but its still 500ish of those speical fates so thats kinda ehhhh

[urban phoenix]

i was totally fine with the bozja setup. its you who wants that awful eureka experience back. or worse....the arr experience for relics

if they do another bozja i fully fine with that.

[tidal rover]

I completed ffxiv Endwalker, what a ride it has been, started in 2013, so good. This is beyond words, I really loved it and one of the best high fantasy stories ever told in videogames

also one of the best FF stories to ever exist, this blows FF7 and FFVI out of the water

[indigo shale]

i mean its not hard to beat ff7 out of the water tbf

[tidal rover]

Endwalker was really and true ending I have witnessed in a videogame, no cliffhanger bullshit, everything cleaned up well

[indigo shale]

well there are still some unanswered stuff like ||what is midgardsomr guarding, what is the heart of sabik, what is zenos avatar, what did emet and elidibus do to him as a child, how did he recognise amon||

[tidal rover]

the writing in this game is very good, like within 18 quests they made ||meteion a compelling antagonist and we started caring||

[pulsar current]

she b a b y

[urban phoenix]

the heart of sabik is destroyed so that doesnt matter. did go boom with the ultima weapon

[indigo shale]

it does matter beacuse koji fox promised we will find out more about it

[tidal rover]

man like how crisp and conscient he dialogues and stuff should be so that within 1-2 hr of story you make a compelling antagonist

[urban phoenix]

really? when?

[tidal rover]

yeah it was in 2.0

[indigo shale]

fanfest 2018 interview

[urban phoenix]

so more timey whimey shenigans then Xd

because in the present the heart did go boom with the ultima weapon

[indigo shale]

so its just always been one of these things left on the backburner that gets brought up but never dismissed

well it is presumed to be black auracite, but we dont know what that means anyway, maybe sabik is something we'll see in panda

im just hoping panda answers a lot of stuff about lahabrea

like there must be some freaky shit there, coming from the man who designed zodiark

[urban phoenix]

i do hope we can set a "seen and done" point behind the whole ascian ancients thing though

[tidal rover]

aren't we going to new world?

or Merecyda next? as Emet selc mentioned all possible future expacs

[indigo shale]

we dont know where we are going next expansion, theres plenty of ideas though

[rain onyx]

We have 0 indication of where we’re going next.

I’m hoping for Meracydia in 7.0

[urban phoenix]

nah. that continent is enough for a whole expansion so why burn it in one patch. that would be a disservice

[tidal rover]

but Emet did mention so many cool expacs

[urban phoenix]

yeah lotta places we have to check upon

[indigo shale]

and there is still plenty of stuff in ilsabard and the east we havent done even before meracydia and the new world

[tidal rover]

ilsabard is where?

[indigo shale]

just depends what we will need to go to said places for

the middle continent between aldenard and othard

[mint sail]

where garlemald is

[tidal rover]

aah ok, i hope we get Garlean playable race

[indigo shale]

we wont it would be impossible firstly it would make no sense in arr, secondly they cant manipulate aether

so wouldnt be able to use any jobs, or presumably utilise the echo and blessing

[tidal rover]

maybe from next expac onw ard they should allow people to start from that expac

[urban phoenix]

we wont get any more races

[tidal rover]

instead of continuing, and current players can continue

[urban phoenix]

they already officially announced that after viera and hrothgar.

[tidal rover]

new players can skip the ARR module if they wish

and start playing next expac without having any string attached or MSQW pulling the down

[urban phoenix]

the only reason we get male bunny boi and female hroth is because fans did go enrage since they promised no genderlocked races back in arr (since 1.0 had genderlocked races)

and viera and hroth where genderlocked so they fix that but no new races

[indigo shale]

and the only that was genderlocked in the first place is because people were complaining that they wanted viera instead of hrothgar so compromises were made

[thorny sleet]

probably not they can't sell msq skips if they let you start with 7.0

[indigo shale]

they can still sell skips, skip to the end of 7.0 there we go easy

[urban phoenix]

well who doesnt wants a sexy bunny girl Xd

[tidal rover]

the moon arc with moon buns was not so great, it went for so long

felt like those trash part in HW with moogles

[indigo shale]

it was great, its good to have things like that for a moment of calm

if its all go then the parts that are meant to actually be the go lose impact

[urban phoenix]

i found the bunnys fun. ||until they start trying to screw me over.....then i wanted to roast em.....||

[tidal rover]

they should have rmeoved those wearing clothing, tasting carrots, walk inside forest and all, it was just too long

[mint sail]

Clothing is funny, carrots less so

[indigo shale]

i mean its good to have all the exposition for that in one place

[tidal rover]

anyways it was dope, I really enoyed the game and finally good to see a closing in the story arc. I love games that have a definitive ending instead of constant loopholes to extend the grind

[urban phoenix]

yeah. i guess we will have some clean ups and then latest with 6.3 the new expansion starts rolling

[tidal rover]

I hope for more grounded approach, just getting tired of this grand scale cosmic adventure, something like tamtara croft or the light house type story

[pulsar current]

i think the devs said 6.1-6.5 is buildup

endwalker is kinda done with its big story

[urban phoenix]

yeah i know but you can buildup and cleanup at the same time

[indigo shale]

well we will still have clean up

[tidal rover]

Haukke manor type simple stories will be nice

[indigo shale]

like the big story is done, but there is still the aftermath of you know all that happened

[urban phoenix]

yeah you wanna just leave that big spaceship lying around just like that

yeah, people are still wounded still traumatized still scared

then we have the garleans we have to dethrone and depower

[indigo shale]

technically this whole game has been a clean up due to them damn allagans, always cleaning up the mess they made

[urban phoenix]

getting the last conscripts home to their families

[indigo shale]

they are already dethroned and depowered, as soon as 5.0 ended that happened

[urban phoenix]

there are still 2 legions out there

[indigo shale]

doesnt mean theyll be a threat, if they werent in garlemald, most likely they already defected

[hallow dome]

is this the place where i can talk freely about the story?

[indigo shale]

kind of EW spoilers have to be spoiler tagged, but everything else is free game

[hallow dome]

** S P O I L E R S A H E A D **

Can the place where you fight ||Zenos|| on the || Edge of the Universe|| be revisited for screenshots?

[urban phoenix]

no

[hallow dome]

[urban phoenix]

but you can roll the cutscenes again with the book

[hallow dome]

i know of this possibility but in there wouldn't be the emotes of my choice

sad but thank you anyway for the answer ❤️

[indigo shale]

when NG+ comes around though, you can to your hearts content

[hallow dome]

so there is a Possibility in future patches?

[indigo shale]

yeah, as ng+ allows you to play through the story again, from different chapters, which also includes one time instances

[hallow dome]

AWWW YISSS

thanx ❤️

[urban phoenix]

i really hate the deads ends

for a dungeon its so overloaded

[fluid basalt]

overloaded with what?

[copper delta]

Why do I see so many people talk about ||Chi||? Did I miss something or am I not far enough yet? (Just finished the MSQ)

[thorny sleet]

it's 1 of 2 endwalker super fate bosses

[granite nimbus]

It's a Super FATE boss that drops the tokens for the Level Checker mount.

[slender siren]

Damn I forgot how good Alexander raid looked

[tidal rover]

I love this artwork, bring so much memory

with hopeful dynamis theme

[copper delta]

You guys aren't ready for my hot take:
The moon fucking sucks. I hate getting anywhere in this place

[granite nimbus]

Pretty sure everyone hates getting around the moon on foot, but it's beautiful once you get flight.

[tidal rover]

infact majority of zones are just generic and sucks on foot

they are also extremely huge without any reason with so much space that is empty

[indigo shale]

yeah there arent really any good zones to go round on foot, in any expansion

[thorny flax]

5% wipe on the first trial on extreme PepeHands A very cool boss and more fun to prog than Titania (and also harder imo) but the star mechanic is very misleading the first time

[wild crane]

Trust the safety dorito

[thorny flax]

I was surprised that this boss has no real tank mechanics at all except for the tank swap

I expected adds or something similar. Even titania had more tank mechanics

the akh morn mechanic is also very cool for healer but I wish it would happen more often

[next quarry]

EX2 has more tank mechs

kinda

[thorny flax]

the aoe + dot is also very cool for healer. they just need to let this happen more often and healer have finally more things to heal

so far I would rate it "better than Innocence + titania/10)

[crystal arrow]

both exes are braindead for tanks

first one has a tank swap, second has adds but you just need to stick to the tank who knows the fight for it

we dragged an ot who was blind thru ex 2

[thorny flax]

the only hard part of the first ex is imo really just the stars and later when the platform changes with the fire thingy

the enrage timer is insanely forgiving

we had over 6 deaths and almost killed it in this try

[tidal rover]

the final fight with ||Zenos was the most anime stuff I have seen and loved it and the music in the background||

[sand shore]

At this point ||Zenos is basically the Vegeta to your WoL being Goku||

[zealous abyss]

They need to put an Extreme of that

[weary rampart]

the EXs are to train returner on how to handle mechanics and their new class skill changes. I seen a lot melee doesnt use feint on bosses even though it provide a lot of mitigation

[copper delta]

Where do I trade in the new tomestones for 570?

[weary rampart]

Radz at han

[copper delta]

would've been too simple to put them in Sharlayan haha

[weary rampart]

gotta put it at the cities ppl rarely visit

anyone know where to get newest master recipes? if it exist

[tidal rover]

man I am still thinking about that ending, it was amazing, a great closure and the antagonist was perfect. I really liked how she uses dynamis and causes these issues

the english voice actor did a fantastic job on her voice

[mint sail]

Every expac has what I call the hub city and the endgame city

Like in ShB, Crystarium is the hub city and Eulmore is the endgame city, both serve similar purposes to Sharlayan and Radz respectively

[gaunt star]

Just making sure I'm not going crazy, but... the the green 536 armor seems slightly worse stat-wise than the Aug Crypt?

Just making sure I'm reading these statts right. Especially since the game tries to recommend weaker stuff to me, it seems.

Or maybe I was just going crazy last night. Nevermind.

Never mind*

[mint notch]

Man I just finished the ||Hydaelyn raid,|| i'm kinda worried about the future of the game. ||Hydaelyn and Zodiark are dead, I assume we're making peace with the Garleans and I assume we're going to kill Zenos and talk-no-jutsu Meteion.|| Unless we're going to try to unsunder the universe or something in 7.x or some baddy gets pulled out of bumfuck all, I can't imagine how the story would continue without any of those forces present.

[indigo shale]

we havent achieved world peace

their are still plenty of people who want power

[mint notch]

[tidal rover]

Zenos is dead

[indigo shale]

and weve barely done anything on the source

we havent even fully explored one continent, that being aldenard, nvm ilsabard, the far east, meracydia and the new world

[mint notch]

It just doesn't seem like it could compare in scale to anything that happened in the last 2 expacs

[indigo shale]

well it doesnt need to and it shouldnt

like nothing can really compare to a 12,000+ year long timescale of what happened

[tidal rover]

man I think EW final boss is one of the most unique bosses I have ever seen, befire this one was the man of mirrors from witcher 3

[mint notch]

I'm concerned how it will feel going from ||hopping between worlds, fighting gods and travelling the universe|| to whatever could come next.

[indigo shale]

itll be the same as going from ARR - HW - SB

like people can still summon primals upon to them selves

[mint notch]

It'll be like going from Shadowbringers and Endwalker to ARR

[indigo shale]

and thats not bad, if the game is all go then it starts devaluing previous happennings as the impact lessens

[hollow wraith]

always worried about spectacle creep

[mint notch]

Yeah, that

[hollow wraith]

I have faith that the writers can circumvent it with good storytelling

[mint notch]

I hope so

It would suck if it just ends up feeling like the story, the setting, stakes and all that was going straight up all the way from ARR to EW, only to fall off a cliff afterwards.

[indigo shale]

if we keep trying to compare next expansions to previous ones then SE will never be able to meet false expectations

like the whole saga ended, no one should expect grand spectacle straight away, anyone that is wants SE to fail

[cloud swan]

gameplay wise, the 2nd boss in ||The Dead Ends|| has the snapshot at VFX start and not at end of cast which is kinda tilting

didn realize until my Expert roulette today

[split forum]

Is 83 EX easier or harder than 89?

[crystal arrow]

easier, imo, but it's very subjective

[neon wing]

Noticeably easier

[thorny flax]

the lvl 83 ex has imo only 2 difficult mechanics. the other parts are easy

the lvl 83 ex is actually so easy that the only thing you need to do is choosing one single person that everyone follows

[neon wing]

Individual responsibility is way higher in ex89

[thorny flax]

I did the boss with a random group and we got to 5% HP after 1 hour

and then we disbanded PepeHands

[neon wing]

||ALGEDON DEEZ NUTS||

[thorny flax]

this shit is actually the mechanic that wiped us at 5% because everyone looked at the % of the boss

xD

[neon wing]

Classic

[urban phoenix]

imma buy birb from mb

i dont care anymore....i hate this dungeon so much

[cloud swan]

anything to buy with Aphorism besides the 570 gear?

[proper saffron]

no

[cloud swan]

how about in 6.01?

[proper saffron]

dont know

we dont have any information about it i believe

[cloud swan]

Oh, ok. thank you anyway

[gaunt star]

I really hope that we get a expan ||where we go to another planet tho this option isn't going to be too popular since it's all sci fi and all||

[barren karma]

I'd like a patch tho where we're just...bored....or just relaxing....perhaps going back to jobber normal quests. Something simple and relaxing before the next big bad.

[next quarry]

Go back to Costa del sol and prepare a feast

[zealous abyss]

Can they top EW & ShB? I can’t go back aar2 to fight another lame primal/monster

[hollow ice]

they dont really need to top EW and SHB, if you are familiar with older multi disc games then it would be like how we just completed a 5 disc series and are starting a new one in the same timeline with whatevers next

[indigo shale]

also how could the next expansion top 2 that were closing off a 10 year saga anyway, a beginning is never exciting as the end

[proper saffron]

I want to ||see the other continents Emet told us||

[indigo shale]

like ffxiv will most likely never get anything on the scale of the HvZ arc again, because in universe that was like 12k years in the making, and required very exceptional circumstances

[thorny flax]

the XIV community needs to be really careful now with how they treat expansions. Otherwise we will get "expansion tribalism" and this kind of view is stupid.

[indigo shale]

expansion tribalism already happens anyway

[thorny flax]

We need to accept that there will be a new arc now which takes time to build up

personally I treat the expansions as "discs" and everything after 6.0 is now a new game for me

I hope they take some of the already existing stuff now and use it to slightly move over to the new stuff

people should still see the characters they currently like and new characters should be slowly introduced so people have enough time to get attached to them

for example like they did it with the shadowbringers cast

[indigo shale]

well we still had the scions there aswell to ferry us to these new characters

[thorny flax]

yep I think that's how they should do it. Still keep the scions and slowly introduce the characters you want to keep for the next arc

[gaunt star]

well they mange to no screw up their dimension hopping story that is 5.0 so I at least have a bit of hope tho that being say it's going to be new lead writers and all so have to see

oh and time traveling as well

[indigo shale]

well aside from the original timeline still being fucked and abandoned by us, yeah not much went wrong with dimension hopping

[thorny flax]

new writers should write the new characters and Ishikawa should continue writing the old ones until people are attached enough to the new characters. If the new writers that have never worked with the old characters are writing the old ones they might risk to ruin already established characters

which is what happened to WoW

[indigo shale]

i mean they do that every expansion anyway

HW and SB and then ShB had different writers who decide the directions of the characters and it didnt go wrong,no characters have been ruined yet

[thorny flax]

I hope we get a dragon expansion. I love all the scenes in this game that have dragons. Vrtra is so cool I absolutely love him

[indigo shale]

thats heavensward

[gaunt star]

it be funny if the new expan arc is one new landmass, one of the other shard, and another planet

[indigo shale]

we arent shard travelling any time soon, or to another planet none of that we can just do

[thorny flax]

I know that travelling to another shard might not immediately happen, but it would be a good way to help the new writers

because they have way more freedom in an entirely new world

[indigo shale]

like one both shard hops required immense power from the CT (for the 13th and first)

[cloud swan]

The game doesnt need to become bigger in scope, they just need to keep tackling the very good philosophical points in the way that they do

||Fermi paradox, big cold, etc||

The way they tie them into emotional character development, etc

||If you're known as THE CHAMPION, then you could pretty much just continue the path of the seat of Azem, jumping into Volcanoes and such and learning new cultures||

[dense oriole]

oh god, my character is stuck at another server

LMAO been 2 hours still can't transfer back and then my computer restarted, now have to requeue 😢

[gaunt star]

well wherever they want to go the galaxy the limit at this point

tho 7.0 most likely going be a safe choice

[indigo shale]

i feel itll be like another 5 or so expansions before we even really attempt to leave the star again as their is still a million things to do on the source

[gaunt star]

I see you a man of let just explore the planet first before anything else

[safe grotto]

perhaps visiting the worlds that the primals hang out in.. when not summoned if thats even a thing

[indigo shale]

what

[gaunt star]

primals hang out ?

[indigo shale]

primals dont hang out anywhere when they arent summoned, and they are a source only thing pretty much as i doubt the ascians taught other shards how to do it

[trail yarrow]

Woah. I wasn't expecting the topic of ||The Big Freeze|| to appear on this game. That's pretty cool

And for some weird reason, my I started tearing up during that conversation 😄

[flint heron]

when will we get the next content? in 3 days?

[trail yarrow]

i think so? 21st, i believe

[indigo shale]

yeah 6.01 releases 20th/21st i believe

[hollow wraith]

I can't believe the end of Endwalker is ||Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance||

[flint heron]

neat#

[trail yarrow]

wait. is the quest name for the lv90 quest ||Vi-----Lost|| really messed up or is it just me?

[late aurora]

Greek

[fluid basalt]

game got glitchy

[trail yarrow]

i mean, i saw some greek characters. so it should have been all greek characters, then?

[late aurora]

But then you couldn’t read it

[hollow wraith]

||victory is lost||?????????

[trail yarrow]

yes

[fluid basalt]

||vitamin is lost||

[trail yarrow]

its messed up on my end. it would have been fine if its in greek but uhhh... there are lots of empty spaces

[hollow ice]

should look like ||Vic┨οry ̈ ̈ ̈╳, │̆││ε Lost||

tho honestly I think it might be a cheeky nod towards ||the fate you have to complete for the mount||

[inner halo]

How the hell did you type that ||forbidden chant language||

[hollow ice]

I went to the wiki and copy pasted it XD

[late aurora]

For all I know it could be, ||Victory chi, all is lost||

[inner halo]

Oh

[hollow ice]

Im with you on the first part ||the 3 sets of .. throw me off, Im thinking they might be morse code in which case "is" is possible but then theres a leftover dot||

unless

[hollow ice]

||victory is e chi(ved), and im trying to figure this part out||

[inner halo]

While I was waiting on queue…

[cinder spindle]

||EX2 trial is fun||

[gusty quiver]

||Why was there an arm in in the tower of babil's core? Y'shtola mentions this and nothing becomes of it||

[indigo shale]

how far in are you

[gusty quiver]

Im finished

[wind bough]

||Part of Varis’s corpse||

[indigo shale]

||ok, since it was channeled through varis, most likely parts of anima/varis body||

[gusty quiver]

Wait how do we know this?

[wind bough]

Which part

[gusty quiver]

That's it's ||parts of varis's corpse||, does someone say that?

[wind bough]

It’s a straightforward deduction

[indigo shale]

||the funny man explains how anima was channelled through varis corpse, and he explains how the towers are extensions of anima itself ||

[wind bough]

||Anima was summoned via Varis’s corpse, and the towers are extensions of Anima||

[sand shore]

it's implied by Y'Shtola seeing ||a body part in the core of Tower of Zot||

[wind bough]

That is what the original question was about

[gusty quiver]

The funny man being ||damn daniel||?

[sand shore]

when you're introduced to ||Anima in the body swap scene iirc||

[indigo shale]

||yeah funny man = fandaniel ||

[lean ore]

|| i dont get why the chick at garlemald is mad at us from praetorium 😔 we just skipped most of the garleans anyway, they cant all have died by the dozens ||

[indigo shale]

||well the place did also explode completely, which would most likely have been blamed on us by the higher ups rather than the crazy man and war criminal||

[sand shore]

except the part where Ultima blows literally everything up

[lean ore]

blame nero

[indigo shale]

thats not his fault its lahabreas he caused the explosion by using the heart of sabik

[lean ore]

true but laheebread is dead

[indigo shale]

gaius is still alive blame him, the ultima project was his idea, and then the bread helped him

[lean ore]

the bread jebaited him

[indigo shale]

well not to much, gaius is just an idiot, thinking a walking nuke that absorbs primals wouldnt be a problem

[sand shore]

it wasnt his intention

[indigo shale]

i find that line funny, because he says its unintentional, but only because it blew up his castrum, if that was limsa lominsa he would have been happy and delighted in the power of ultima

[humble heron]

I dunno; gaius seems like he does give a shit about human life at least a little

[sand shore]

possibly, but in Gaius' mind he is meant to subjugate and conquer, not eradicate

which is why he was against black rose

[tulip rover]

so I finished the MSQ last night. Today I see that I'm glowing. I have no idea from what. I've changed minions, jobs, gear, title, it's still here. Has been here for hours. I have no buff on me to explain it. Anyone know what's going on?

[indigo shale]

if he gave a shit, he wouldnt use ultima weapon, even without lahabreas assisitance, a primal absorbing superweapon isnt something you use just for conquest and subjucation, he can do that normally with his army formations like with werlyt and ala mhigo

[wind bough]

Screenshot?

[tulip rover]

Gaius has a history have not even moving on a land until he thinks he has a plan to take it with the least amount of lives lost on BOTH sides. Ultima weapon (keep in mind he didn't know about the spell until Lahabrea used it) would have been a weapon of great power and terror, one that would have had people giving up with little to no resistance. And five years ago there was an attempt at Eorza that failed. He needed something more than the normal to take Eorza with minimal losses.

[wind bough]

[humble heron]

You've ascended to super saiyan god super saiyan

[wind bough]

Changing job or zone do anything?

[tulip rover]

nope

I've had it everywhere I've gone. And when my wife looks at me in her game she doesn't see it.

[dawn plume]

are the 2 new beast tribes in the game already ?

and were do you buy the new tomestone gear

[cinder spindle]

Radz at han

[lean ore]

will be added at a later patch

[dawn plume]

thx

[thorny flax]

all my ex trial runs fail because of dps players. They die, get 2-3 vul stacks or can't play their job at all

[trail yarrow]

any duncecap of shame?

[dawn briar]

guides are saying to eat 2 vul's for parses 😄

[mental tangle]

Ok i just got kick of the game for no reason is there a maintenace

[hollow ice]

its also that dps tend to have the hardest jobs when they have to consider both upkeep/rotation and mechanics moreso than the other roles
but well they get there eventually...hopefully ||maybe||

[hearty ravine]

Man pld need some fixing,that number is from ex1

[hollow ice]

idk might be a player skill issue

[hearty ravine]

Yea the new blade combo while looks awesome asf i think is underwhelming damage wise

[thorny flax]

I think the blade combo is what will get buffed

it seems to do less damage than the other tanks and the community is asking to make the combo stronger. so it's a win win

[bronze brook]

I have seen a few people complain that Jesse cox guesses plot points before they happen but that simply means the story is structured solidly .

Characters act true true to themselves and do not suddenly change because of plot convenience .

[dawn briar]

nope rando dc 😛

[dawn briar]

tbf the ark conclusion was pretty obvious what the main points were gonna be

[indigo shale]

also hes played every final fantasy game and many other rpg games, so hes bound to pick up on structure and predict future events anyway, and hes still got plenty of predictions wrong either way, but some he guesses very correctly

[dawn briar]

Followed a general Jrpg format ;D

[pastel chasm]

wait what could this be? I thought there were only 2 extreme trials in EW and I already have those unlocked

[indigo shale]

maybe an ultimate?

[jolly sierra]

Yeah maybe ultimate

[humble heron]

The hardest content of all: making friends

[pastel chasm]

people can just party finder ultimates?

[humble heron]

Yeah

You can party finder everything!

[pastel chasm]

I thought you needed to get a static to attempt it

[indigo shale]

yeah people do, its a way of forming a permanent static sometimes, if people dont join a discord server to look, or maybe they hate themselves enough to pug an ultimate

[jolly sierra]

Nah pug ultimate has gotten pretty popular

[humble heron]

Statics make it easier but it is possible to prog it with random people if everybody knows whats foing on

[jolly sierra]

Strats are pretty standardized by this point

[pastel chasm]

i mean i'm not surpised it's possible, I'm surprised people actually do it

[jolly sierra]

Might also just be reclears, instead of prog

[pastel chasm]

I see. thank you

[dawn briar]

Some people actually prefer pf for ultimates it has many upsides if you learn fast your not limited by how fast your static learns so if you can quickly pick up multiple phases you can push for your clear.

Or if you got past a pretty hard step and you are pretty sure you can walk it home off a video and a couple of tries people don't usually mind

Pf often uses the simple strats to which you may prefer over w/e your static decides to go with

[fierce wing]

Game please can i have a gold for once pls

omg yes

[chrome sun]

Hey guys, the show overlay option in ACT is no longer there does anyone know why?

[wide idol]

o my god there's people gposing at the ||suicide flag room||

[dim sigil]

|| There is a awful hilarious picture somebody gposed posted using the nice shot sitcker ||

[next quarry]

what the fuck

[quaint root]

Chi spawn is so painful

[mental tangle]

Lol i dont know wi y run into and asshl of a healer on this game i know that its anoying some times new player die on dungeons but to be and asshl just for that then why are you playing healer go and play dps if u wana do dmg

[river hound]

where is that?. Nvm ignore that, sorry . i just rmb...

[inner halo]

Chi Spawn is extremely random?

[viscid monolith]

If Chi is like the other world bosses its spawn is on 36 hour timer

Or was it 24 hours

[trail yarrow]

where?

[midnight agate]

hey have they shown the upcoming raid gear or no?

[river hound]

||Garlemald train, where Quintus shot himself||

[trail yarrow]

ah

man. what is with lv90 trial. this thing's crazy

[cinder spindle]

||ngl i thought hydaelyn fight happened cuz WOL had a rebellious phase||

@midnight agate they already showed it iirc it was in the last liveletter or something

[quick owl]

So wait...

Thancred can't used aetheryte under normal circumstances...

But he was able to use that experimental one-way teleport because it was made with people like him in mind.

[desert raven]

sounds like a logan paul moment

[trail yarrow]

yes