retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[vital timber]

||That's why Alphinaud initially had the whole Crystal Braves idea in mind. ||

[jolly sierra]

|| no thats not what i meant, i mean like gameplay wise. since we picked a gc all the way back at level 15, why cant we now "join" the gc of eorzea ||

[gleaming bough]

seeing the 2nd half of EW, never knew FF can make cosmic horror so damn terrifying

[vital timber]

||gameplay limitations, I suppose especially on the PvP side of things. ||

[jolly sierra]

|| OH YEAH IT WOULD BREAK PVP ||

|| wait, no, freelancer is a thing ||

[humble heron]

Well, you go into pvp as a freelancer

[unreal delta]

||pls no new maincast ||

[jolly sierra]

i mean its fine im not expecting a serious answer

[vital timber]

||At the end of the day, I think being part of something that massive would tie the WoL down. We are in our element going about doing whatever the hell we want. ||

[jolly sierra]

just kinda throwing out the idea

[humble heron]

||well, potentially new hot boys and girls to get fanart of. Also, i think new voice actors will breath new life into the game||

[unreal delta]

||bls no, alphi is my son ||

[humble heron]

||youll be able to visit him whenever u want and soon enough hes probably going to be on the Forum anyway||

[vital timber]

I like the part where the Loporritts go "mlem mlem mlem"

[jolly sierra]

i hope theres at least a ||dinner cutscene with the scions because i have infinite love in my heart for all of them ||

[hollow ice]

siri voice: "did you mean ||zenos, elidibus, titus slayer, lolorito as new main cast?"||

[vital timber]

How did you guys feel when fighting ||Zenos as a lalafell?||

[late aurora]

I did it in a chicken suit so I’d say pretty powerful

[next quarry]

Hey do you guys want ||summer graha||

[split forum]

Like in a swimsuit?

[next quarry]

An artist I like a lot made this wolfyinthecity

[indigo shale]

dont think you could make graha loook any less like graha

[jolly sierra]

i love him

[humble heron]

Thats Gacha Tia

[indigo shale]

like if rammbroes and cid werent in the image you wouldnt even know its from FF,

[next quarry]

True

Have another

[jade relic]

Love it

[next quarry]

One more

[dusky shoal]

me and my ||lunar dog making our way towards the battle field||

[bronze thistle]

Are there any level 90 job specific quests?

[humble heron]

No

[gusty quiver]

As a vet this fucking HURTS - L86

||Putting aggressive animals down is one of the hardest things I've ever had to do||

I am also very pleased that they got this distinction correct

[slate ridge]

||another unique dialogue if you did binding coils. if not, what does alisaie say?||

[humble heron]

She doesnt say anything, i think

[potent raft]

is it spoiler to say that cat boi and girl tail doesn't clip with the lvl 90 tome gear?

[slate ridge]

im actually surprised that ||a ruhn senna has more importance in the msq compared to kan e senna or his sister, which i forgot||

[prime basalt]

yknow what I love the most

[indigo shale]

||yeah it seems most alliance leaders were left out, i think its because they are all in the role quests||

[prime basalt]

||Fighting Zodiark in a fucking Trial Roulette. I DONT HAVE THE PATIENCE FOR THAT MAN||

msq 84 and first trial spoiler

||I go into them thinking id fight like, a arr boss, like that one thats memed to death, NOT GOD HIMSELF WHEN IM JUST WANTING TO GRIND MY STONES UP. Screw that man, I cant do that||

[gusty quiver]

That trail ain't that hard man

[prime basalt]

imo it is

[gusty quiver]

[prime basalt]

||In fact, all of EWs Trials are hard||

[indigo shale]

||its hard atm because no one has quite got the mechanics down, and most people that do will be doing the extreme so most likely youll be put with people who are all doing it the first time||

[prime basalt]

||Well. 3rd was Suprisingly Not hard. So much as a final boss that wasint hard XD||

[marsh osprey]

POV: your sleepless endwalker experience

[gusty quiver]

I think I only got hit once? my first time..

[prime basalt]

Me yesterday

[indigo shale]

||once people learn the fight itll be as easy as E12||

[prime basalt]

Thats great, Im not that good at the game

[marsh osprey]

Literally was me after my straight 24 hour ffxiv marathon

[prime basalt]

Im a casual, I dont raid, I dont do EX, Tho, I do wanna try the 2nd trial EX

[marsh osprey]

I recommend 2nd ex trial is way less chaotic than first one

[indigo shale]

2nd trial has the Weapons right?

[prime basalt]

AS for my past experance in EXs
WT ARR EXs unsyced and uh. ||SOS EX||

[marsh osprey]

Yeah it gives weapons

[prime basalt]

||2nd is low key FUN||

[indigo shale]

ill have to give it a look, havent done extremes on an expansion launch so no better time than now

[wind bough]

None of the trials are that hard

[marsh osprey]

First trial is instadeath everywhere

[prime basalt]

||I love that fight. Cant wait to do it on ex||

[wind bough]

I got hit by hardly any avoidable damage in any of them going blind

Skill issue uwu

[prime basalt]

1st just is so ridiculous

[marsh osprey]

To be fair i only ever pulled trial 1 ex once and cleared

[next quarry]

I'm stuck on enrage in both of them since pf sucks

[prime basalt]

Makes me wanna steer clear of it

[marsh osprey]

I legit spend 10 mins in total in ex trial 1 for a clear

[next quarry]

The 1st one is easier than the 2nd one

[prime basalt]

In the EX?

[marsh osprey]

Yes

[prime basalt]

I must really suck ass at this game then :/

[marsh osprey]

You can fully callout the trial

[next quarry]

Don't expect to do everything like Freddy does, but you can fully just follow someone who knows what to do and you're good

[marsh osprey]

Just lemming strat on one guy

[river hound]

I played follow the tank leader. Cleared on 2nd run.

[unreal delta]

man

[gusty quiver]

Man hardest savage I ever did was e4s I think

[next quarry]

I plan to clear Ex1 tomorrow and get accessories to actually clear ex2

[marsh osprey]

Yeah we got lucky we had really good dps so we cleared ex1 on 0.1% first run

[prime basalt]

I refuse to do any Savage Raid

[marsh osprey]

We had quiet a few deaths

[gusty quiver]

Why it's so fun learning how

[wind bough]

[prime basalt]

that is a red line. Fuck that. I dont wanna lose my sanatiy.

[river hound]

I ran ||Light mommy trial|| at least 30x....0 clears. Either not enuf dmg or we died too early

[wind bough]

Savage isn’t that bad lol

[next quarry]

Same

[wind bough]

Plus it’s usually comfy and chill

[gusty quiver]

It's not like ultimates or something

[prime basalt]

I do not wanna do them. Thats out my leauge

[next quarry]

I've spent like 8 hours now on EX2 trying to clear

[marsh osprey]

I did ex2 in like 3-4 pulls with some callouts, the stupid waves are t he hardest part really

[wind bough]

Ultimates are also totally doable

[wind bough]

You would likely be surprised

[prime basalt]

Plus. I only liked 2 raids, Alexander and Omega

[gusty quiver]

Savages are basically "Know where to stand"

[prime basalt]

Nor do I have a intrest in doing them. I only did ||SOS EX|| because At the time It was my fav boss in the game

[gusty quiver]

Your loss, moving on

[marsh osprey]

Extreme is know where to stand

[prime basalt]

Ill glady take that loss

[marsh osprey]

Savage is know where to stand and actually be able to play your job

[gusty quiver]

When you dont even know what you're missing lol

[wind bough]

You can just say you don’t feel confident doing savage, don’t have to be weird about it

[prime basalt]

I dont wanna know what I am

[hollow ice]

they arent that hard tho

its just a bit more effort

[prime basalt]

But peeople keep saying its not that hard, and i keep essiting on it

[marsh osprey]

You just need to be willing to learn

[next quarry]

It's not that hard once you're used to it

[indigo shale]

the hardest thing about extremes, is that players dont seem to be too welcoming to people who havent done them before

[wind bough]

You haven’t tried it so you’re not in a position to actually assert that

[hollow ice]

I go into them blind and come out victorious

[prime basalt]

Ive done a EX

[marsh osprey]

And please dont try savage in pf, gear up and find a static. Its much more wholesome

[wind bough]

Yes they are. That’s what learning parties are for.

Lots of people join to help teach.

[indigo shale]

on light, every goddamn learning party even expects you to know the fight already

[gusty quiver]

I cleared e4s multiple times in PF, it's not even that bad

[agile needle]

Question. Why do skywatchers know what the weather is gonna be on the moon, ||Elpis, and Ultima Thule||? What are those bastards hiding?

[prime basalt]

If the EW trails are "Not that hard" I wont last a second on Savange Raids. End of story

[wind bough]

Yes expect to watch a video unless it’s a blind party

[marsh osprey]

Theres guides out there for the exes so everybody expects you to watch them

[prime basalt]

Also. first ew trial just pisses me off alot of the time

[hollow ice]

or just look capable enough that noone thinks your blind

[wind bough]

What people don’t appreciate is players who fail to meet the conditions laid out in the party finder description

[hollow ice]

yeah the first ew trial is a bit annoying

[prime basalt]

Its Unfair half the time

[next quarry]

God please don't join clear parties if you've never even step foot in the fight

[hollow ice]

but the second one is p nice and easy to learn

[indigo shale]

well if people made proper PF descriptions it wouldnt be to bad, but i see most PF's with just one word descriptions

[wind bough]

That’s dishonesty and failing to meet expectations and pull the same weight as everyone rise.

[prime basalt]

2nd is acctualy fun

[next quarry]

Nah, people don't read half the time

[wind bough]

If it has duty completion tag it’s a clear

[prime basalt]

3rd is easy but *HOLY FUCK

[marsh osprey]

If it doesnt say blind, its not blind

[wind bough]

If it has practice tag it’s either learning or prog with video watching required

[prime basalt]

Or say learning Party. That works

[wind bough]

If it says blind it’s blind

[marsh osprey]

Thats rule number 1

[wind bough]

It’s only ever blind if it explicitly says so

Otherwise watch a video

[marsh osprey]

If its not content that released in the last 3-4 days, theres a guide

[prime basalt]

I... Felt it was better if someone expalind it to me. Video helped, but I really understood it when my party members explaind it. Idk if thats good or bad

[marsh osprey]

People learn differently

[wind bough]

Try text guides and diagrams

If it’s a learning party people may be willing to explain

If it’s a clear, not so much

[prime basalt]

Thats another thing

I feel presured ALOT. I felt so much presure when i was doing ||SOS EX||

[wind bough]

Voice communications help

[marsh osprey]

Lyon how do i see again when ||mommy is gonna cleave front and back||

[prime basalt]

I always felt when there was a wipe I did something wrong

[next quarry]

Stop pressuring yourself and enjoy learning, everyone makes mistakes

[wind bough]

You can get callouts to assist you if you’re new to endgame

[wind bough]

Haven’t done ex yet

[prime basalt]

Finding the party for that is the tricky part

[marsh osprey]

Oh no

[wind bough]

In normal the plus AoE is the uh blue icons

[marsh osprey]

Get in there lyon

[prime basalt]

I did WHM for EW

[marsh osprey]

They dumbed down healing even further

[wind bough]

I only finished MSQ yesterday

Been busy

[prime basalt]

Ive liked healer

[marsh osprey]

We actually get to heal but we also have a lot of tools to heal now

Except white mage, that job kinda died

[prime basalt]

Also. When Like, I was "Getting into" High end stuff"

My mind was BLOWN. B L O W N realizing how 1% is the factor between life and death in a boss

Still baffles me

[unreal delta]

if you wipe, congratulations, you're now better than you were before

[marsh osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-john-cena-ru-sure-about-dat-gif-14258954

[prime basalt]

Seems SO LITTLE but so much

[indigo shale]

i learn by doing not by seeing, i can read up on many guides and watch many videos but it makes no difference, ive been kicked from many a PF due to this even on learning parties before even attempting the fight, even for ARR extremes, so excuse me if i dont think PF's are welcoming

[prime basalt]

A guy I know is a walking library of everything High End, and its like hes talking Greek

[unreal delta]

also ive finally decided to join the -ways

as a drg player i will become

[prime basalt]

I feel that. Im the same way. Doing is bettering the seeing

[gaunt star]

2nd trial lvl 89: ||I CAN DO IT AS TRUST WTF THIS IS SO COOL||

[gusty quiver]

floortankway

[unreal delta]

:)

[gaunt star]

Finally reached a point of ||visitations... im glad I didn't watch Yshtola version on YT and instead waited to see it on my character... I feel love bloom tonight 🎶 ||

[unreal delta]

: )

[prime basalt]

Also, in that case, start a PF and say that.

[gaunt star]

i ||chose graha and my heart soared, had no idea that was coming up but i realized after the choice it was meant to decide who came to give you a goodnight kiss||

[prime basalt]

Or like, ask before the fight, tell them your better at doing then seeing imo

[gaunt star]

I really hope it's a precursor to ||favour system, or a taste of it haha||

[prime basalt]

||I picked Thancred. Hes my boy||

[marsh osprey]

I definitely hope well never get such a thing

||this story will stay linear for gameplay purposes with some text choices that affect npc reaction||

[gusty quiver]

[marsh osprey]

Some of these lines are just funny

[weary rampart]

Jocat would like a word with u

[leaden wind]

I will never get tired of how easy it is to get into an argument about this game for no reason.
People complained about old Summoner, people complain about new Summoner, complain about new and old astro, war, monk.

It's always lovely to see how people demand a high "skill ceiling" job, absolutely ignoring the fact that the real skill ceiling is knowing the positionals of a raid.

[calm umbra]

||I hope they turn down the effects on the last trial, some of the effects on the last part were just uniquely blinding.||

[weary rampart]

ilvl550 , 1st EX trial Enrage at 26% hp left

[leaden wind]

||Nah, that was just your summoners new titan summon||

[calm umbra]

I was going to RDM LB3 just to add to the chaos

[leaden wind]

Shit's an actual flashbang

I think the only class that can't cause permanent eye damage now is BLM

[gusty quiver]

[keen osprey]

Was Tiamat ever mentioned in EW?

[leaden wind]

I think once or twice

[gaunt star]

2nd trial: ||MY HEART IM DYING WTF||

[minor wren]

I totally need to get used to the new Summoner stuff.

[leaden wind]

As much as I like the new Summoner, it really is quite easy.
Bahamut, 3 Legos in any order till lvl 86, weave energy drain and fester whenever you have it, preferably in a burst window, phoenix, Legos, weave fester es r4 and the rest again, then repeat

[river hound]

I picked y'shtola then said why not and went to an inn and recorded all the visits.

[leaden wind]

I do wish it had a few more ogcd options or any sort of trade off mechanic for its summons

[river hound]

Why can't we hide other ppl's summons...titan's thicc ass blocked like half my screen when my party member casted him.
Edit: ok i realised i could change optiom to hide all but i have using hide limited effects so far and it!s good enuf. Only smn got prob||

[leaden wind]

Best part about it that smn has a flashbang on the level of RDM that has a way shorter cooldown

[minor wren]

I'm so used to having the egis around that it makes me rethink a lot of stuff.

[river hound]

Smn has 1?

[weary rampart]

Lalafell are truly evil

[cinder spindle]

||now that we know about dynames do Dark knight use them since iirc itw as mentioned they use emotions||

[minor wren]

||I think so.||

[slender siren]

Final msq ||can’t believe we almost died after zenos fight he really fucked us up||

[slender siren]

||you got orochimaru’d?||

[weary rampart]

[slender siren]

How is that a uwu moment

[weary rampart]

every moment is an uwu moment

[slender siren]

Not that

||he almost killed everyone there in your body||

[weary rampart]

but he is forced to walk with short legs

[slender siren]

|| ||

Ooooh you’re a lala

I can finally ask ||how did it feel being tall|| @weary rampart

[keen osprey]

||Wouldn't be surprised if alot of people use Dynamis without realizing it tbh.||
||The fact that Limit Breaks are explained as the use of Dynamis to surpass your usual limits, implies that there may be many cases where the residents of Etheris might use it without knowing it's nature dismissing them as their own determination or something||

[pallid girder]

||Almost being the key word. Also Graha should have shifted to PLD mode to guard from that intiial voidsent attack||

[weary rampart]

not my favourite

[keen osprey]

But introducing another mcguffin into the mix when we already have aether is going to be rather... problematic imo, so hopefully it's going to be something that's like extremely difficult to control/abuse

[weary rampart]

||why didnt they choose a shorter soldier ||

[slender siren]

||Did you not see how he was cleaving you with that scythe??||

||you should be dead tbh||

[keen osprey]

||Honestly everytime i watch people's reactions to the cutscenes, but they're a lalafell... i find it hard to take the cutscene seriously no matter how dramatic it is...||
||Case in point... the punch out with Zenos...||

[weary rampart]

ok the last trial 2nd phase music is supoose to be ||song of hope full version||

[slender siren]

I was a Yorha hyur @keen osprey

[cinder spindle]

||I wonder if the zenos vs you fight while in a pool stars is a gurenn lagann reference||

[keen osprey]

||I would've thought given it was a FF game, it would've referenced the FF7 final fight? The last duel||

[weary rampart]

benfit of being short ||ppl have to kneel down to speak with u ||

[keen osprey]

||Given in FF7 it wasn't a punch out but just a single LB use, but it still kinda is?||

[cinder spindle]

||has anyone clip of the fist fight while using a lalafell?||

[keen osprey]

Demerit of being short, ||certain blasphemies step on u when u cry out FATHEEEE... GRAAAAHHH||

[keen osprey]

I saw it, but forgot which youtube video it was

||It honestly looks like Zenos punches just slightly over their face||

[cinder spindle]

||imagine zenos being thirsty on you then beating the fuck out of your lalafell||

[keen osprey]

Found it: ||https://youtu.be/THtEDfILHT4||

[cinder spindle]

||So glorius||

[keen osprey]

||I don't even understand how the Lalafell managed to hit Zenos at all... It's not like Zenos knelt down pointing to his chin saying "hit me here"...||

[cinder spindle]

||zenos got punched on the balls||

[slender siren]

||it’s sad we won’t have anyone like Zenos to fight us||

[cinder spindle]

||nah im sure they will make another zenos in the future expacs just wait for it||

[keen osprey]

I'm sure they'll create more...

[cinder spindle]

||ngl that lalafell vs zenos had me bawling my eyes out in laughter||

[weary rampart]

whose to say he wont be back

[pallid girder]

||yol dance used appropiately||

[slender siren]

||what??! Bruh his corpse is literally at the edge of the universe||

[pallid girder]

||Also bringing back Zenos again would not be right. He's done. He's achieved his goal, got what he wanted, even if he lost||

[weary rampart]

||he died once , he can do it again ||

[keen osprey]

No context required

[cinder spindle]

||if this was blizzard that line would've turned into fruits||

[keen osprey]

Also no context required

[slender siren]

||but he was able to find a body||

[weary rampart]

They even had|| VA name in the credits for that 2 primal ||appearance

[keen osprey]

Yeah, it was surprising they had 2 VAs specifically for that scene

they could've kept the ||primals|| silent, but it added some character to them

Well, in the case of ||Lord of the Revel||, they used his old VA in StB

[slender siren]

||garuda and susano were always like that||

[keen osprey]

but what about ||Garuda||?
I don't recall her ever talking did she?

[weary rampart]

even the Way has their VA listed

[slender siren]

Someone hasn’t paid attention to ARR

[arctic pelican]

she had a few voiced lines in ARR

[slender siren]

[keen osprey]

Ooof... tbf... ARR was awhile ago...

when HW onwards blew my mind out of the water, ARR looks stale in comparison in my mind

[slender siren]

When sprouts ask me how to get the Nier gear

[weary rampart]

ARR is a rushed project ,so its understandable

[keen osprey]

Yeah, when so many glamours (unsurprisingly) so Nier gear, it's not that surprising

Is the Nier coffer tradable? From the Copied Factory raid?

If it was, i wouldn't be surprised if it was cheap on the MB

[weary rampart]

oh theres some optional dungeon

[slender siren]

No

[keen osprey]

Ah... Then yeah... they gotta grind their way to 80 then...

[slender siren]

And 2B hair is starting to hit 100,000

[keen osprey]

On the bright side, the coffer is a 100% drop and most people already got theirs, so they don't bother collecting it from final drops
shouldn't take more than 2-3 runs to get their own

[slender siren]

What coffer

[late aurora]

The 2B outfit

[keen osprey]

The Nier outfit coffer from Copied Factory, u answered me earlier

[slender siren]

No it’s not

Who said that

[keen osprey]

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/No.2_Type_B_Materiel_Storage_Crate

You're referring to this outfit yeah?

[slender siren]

Oooh you mean it being in the chest?

[late aurora]

That’s what coffers are yes

[keen osprey]

Well the outfits have plenty of chest Well yeah? What else could i mean?

[slender siren]

Ohh I thought you meant everyone can get it

[late aurora]

They can, It’s not gender locked

[slender siren]

Like the whole raid gets 2B outfit

[keen osprey]

I meant it's a 100% chance of 3 coffers being in the reward pool. I said specifically since the majority of players by now already have the full set, and will likely skip it, it's unlikely it would take more than 2-3 runs for any sprouts to get their own outfit

[late aurora]

You do know how unique loot works...right

[slender siren]

Yes

I need Gabriel mark iii

[cinder spindle]

||male roegadyn in maid outfit||

[vital timber]

I have been thinking about the story of Endwalker so far. The themes and storytelling they seem to go for reminds me a lot of Madoka Magica and Persona 3

And a touch of Gurren Lagann and Naruto

[urban phoenix]

i really should have slept

damn...i hope i survive till this evening

[keen osprey]

idk abt Madoka, but the ||Ea race|| seems to embody P3's theme of the "inevitability of death" to the utmost extreme to the point of subverting it, and basically desiring to ||die because they will all die anyways||

[urban phoenix]

where does that come from XD

[weary rampart]

when ur in ||laybrinthos trying to help the scholars ||

[indigo solstice]

there's also one that went like: this person is doing better than you and oof

[urban phoenix]

oooh when ||you wanna find scholars for the lopporits?||

[weary rampart]

ya

[vital timber]

I was thinking about Madoka if only because of the ||theme of people turning into monsters after they experience some extreme negative emotions bit. ||

[urban phoenix]

problem is its my mas birthday today

if i go to bed now imma sleep till midnight and she will set me on fire

well not literally but you know what i mean

[keen osprey]

I never watched Madoka, so i wouldn't know

[slate ridge]

Yeah I know both. Madoka Magica also have ||people turning into monsters due to high levels of despair||, and persona 3 is ||finding the answer to meaning and life||

[late aurora]

I need better accessories

[slate ridge]

Apparently when ||fourchenault hugs the twins, it paralleled louisoix doing the same animation during the coils||

[steep sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/pudding-puddingway-gif-24080616

[slate ridge]

Now I’m wondering if ||fandaniel successfully brought zodiark down, would he kill it to restart the final days?||

If the ascians successfully fuse the reflections into the source, that means ||zodiark will be whole but the final days don’t happen? Cause it says if zodiark dies, the final days will restart||

[fluid basalt]

it doesn't solve the original problem

[urban phoenix]

||if the ascians managed to release zodiark, all life as we know it would die because they would use those lifes to restore shit to their blissful ignorance. the finals days wouldnt happen because the barrier was up as long zodiark existed. but on the same time meteion kept growing stronger and stronger. so one day she would have been strong enough to get through zodiarks aethershield and do the final days||

[thorny flax]

The state of FFXIV Twitter and Reddit right now: People complaining about queues and which of the three 10/10 expansions is the 10.5/10 one

FeelsGoodMan

[urban phoenix]

man i really feel they guys who wanna play and cant but hey they give out free time right? and depending on how bad it rolls there will be more

[thorny flax]

yep they will give us even more free playtime

[fluid basalt]

after EW, i doubt it's a good idea to pick favs. any players must play through them all. I'd go through 1.0 story if i could

[light sail]

I wouldn't

[thorny flax]

technically you can finish endwalker in 2 weekends

just log in during the morning and play 10-12 hours each day

[light sail]

Technically you can finish Endwalkers in 2 days if you don't sleep or do anything else

[fluid basalt]

but those 2 days mostly spent on queues and not really playing

[light sail]

Just get on early morning one day, before ques pick up, and don't ever log back out and keep playing all the way through lol, and just pray you dont DC

[thorny flax]

Endwalker has the same problem as Shadowbringers btw. People again spreading misinformation because they didn't pay enough attention to the story.

I remember people shitting on Y'shtola for being "rude" to us in Rak'tika when she didn't know that it were us due to the change of our aether

[mortal barn]

Garlemald is based on Roman empire, but i feel their homeland pairs well with Vodka.

[limber pilot]

don't do this if you value your sanity

You won't get as much enjoyment and the story isn't gonna hit as hard if you're sleep deprived and neglecting yourself. Not to mention you'll probably play worse too. Can't properly enjoy a game if you're not taking care of yourself

[fluid basalt]

yeah too many people spedrun the game and skipped the story

or at least the finer details

[indigo solstice]

the best part is talking to npcs standing beside your quest objective, ive seen some really witty comebacks

[fluid basalt]

it's not as fun when people ride their huge ass mounts to cover those poor NPCs. wish there's a way to hide other players

[vital timber]

TFW|| I fought Zenos, it's more than I could ever hope for. ||

[indigo solstice]

oof, counting my blessings that the instances ive been in didnt really have many players covering up npcs with mounts

[urban phoenix]

use num0 targets the nearbiest npc press it again to interact with the npc

[indigo solstice]

yeah

but its still easier to talk to the npcs standing next to it if they arent covered

[urban phoenix]

true also more immersive

[indigo solstice]

it'll die down soon though, I hope

[half phoenix]

About 2 more weeks before the start of the 1 month subbers trickling off

And a good chunk will probably be gone until 7.0 hits

[gleaming bough]

wait wut???

is it me this look like caith sith from the void ark raid?

[slender siren]

That is cait sith

Damn it looks like they updated his model

[bleak ravine]

Weeee

[fluid basalt]

those sky pirates are finally relevant to the plot?

[jolly stirrup]

Has anyone seen matsya since the baby scene?

[lean ore]

freedom!

[urban phoenix]

i dont get what people find on that thing....

[lean ore]

collection i guess

[indigo shale]

its also unique, not many mounts do that

[lean ore]

^

[urban phoenix]

but its SO ugly

[indigo shale]

its the best looking mount so far in EW

[urban phoenix]

what? XD noooo no way....but i guess thats subjective

[vital timber]

You can make a Pixar logo out of it. XD

[late aurora]

Look ma, I’m on TeeVee!

[lean ore]

the walk animation is literally the lamp thing

[urban phoenix]

okay nice very nice

[urban phoenix]

"ma got the cam! ma im on the stream!" XDDD

[fringe tide]

I would like to say that REAPER is very COOL

[half phoenix]

No, it’s a call-back clip if you have the flag for clearing Void Ark series, if you don’t, it’s just some random no face Temple Knight in a manacutter instead

[subtle rampart]

glad to know im not the only one whos bummed about the mounts so far in EW

[half phoenix]

In the same cutscene Soroban is with Hancock, and if you didn’t clear the Four Lords, he says he was sent by the village to help out and was try to find a way to get to Eorzea in time, while if you do finish Four Lords, he says he stuck a deal with some traders and brought some ancient relics from Hell’s Lid

[pastel venture]

He actually brings tenzens katana, which is sick

[half phoenix]

Among other things

[subtle rampart]

that whole cutscene was lost on me as id forgotten about 90% of the charas

[half phoenix]

Eh only MSQ ones talk for the most part

[subtle rampart]

did fran show up at all?

[half phoenix]

No

[subtle rampart]

[half phoenix]

They mention the Bozja resistance and Fran’s group from Dalmasca though.... the something Tears

[indigo shale]

fran went to dalmasca after the dalriada, and teased a possiblr us meeting her there at some point

[lean ore]

they actually sent people from bozja and dalmasca

[subtle rampart]

oh ye

[lean ore]

but not the actual leaders n such

[half phoenix]

After SE clears out Dalmasca so Matsuno can continue his story how he wants it

[subtle rampart]

i should go and do DAL at some point

[lean ore]

good luck with that xd

[half phoenix]

Trying to think which big groups weren’t in that cutscene...

[subtle rampart]

Garleans

[indigo shale]

well we did pretty much clear out dalmasca

[subtle rampart]

tho they were mentioned

[indigo shale]

thats what we did in the alliance raids, we cleared out the garleans and some other mobs

[pastel venture]

Anyone from the first

[subtle rampart]

the first wasnt mentioned but that was obvious

[lean ore]

lmao not like they could come

[pastel venture]

Smh not invent rift travel just to help us

[subtle rampart]

imagine if 2B had shown up lmao

[pastel venture]

Id die

[indigo shale]

matsuno himself cleared out dalmasca so he has always had pretty much free reign on that sub area

[lean ore]

Maybe in 9.0 Y'Shtola manages to find a way 🤔

[subtle rampart]

i would of said 8.0

next expac will see us go south and the one after will be more shards id guess

[half phoenix]

We had the Ivalice and Four Lords with Soroban and Hancock (since they took the flying theater), Omega, Werlyt and Bozja with Cid, Nero, Biggs, Wedge, Alpha and OMG, Mhach with the Sky Pirate bit but they didn’t talk... was there any actual recon teams for Coils?

[subtle rampart]

would be fun to grab ryne and just hop shards with no real hold back

[indigo shale]

coils was just us urianger and alisae pretty much so everyone that was there was there

[half phoenix]

We’re not going shard hopping

[late aurora]

Yeah, they had to steal shit from 2nd coils

WoL has Turn 9 PTSD

[half phoenix]

I meant for the Coil story, I couldn’t remember

[subtle rampart]

i loved our reaction when that came up

[late aurora]

Alisaie and you were the recon

[subtle rampart]

like you really want me to go do this crap?

[half phoenix]

And we won’t be going shard hopping any time soon, we have no reason too

Not to mention ||Emet listed off a bunch of stuff on the Source we haven’t even touched on yet||

[subtle rampart]

well 6.1 at this point will likely be garlemald stuff

[half phoenix]

No?

They were name dropping Corvos WAY to much

[subtle rampart]

its where the twins went so itll probably one of the patches

[wind bough]

Corvos/Locus Amoenus must have gotten at least 10 namedrops

[subtle rampart]

true

[pastel venture]

Where is Corvos?

[half phoenix]

North of Thavnair

[wind bough]

Just over the sea north from Thavnair

South coast of Ilsabard

[half phoenix]

Just across the sea

[pastel venture]

Ohhh

[lean ore]

hhhO

[graceful oak]

hello, are retainers still cant level to 90?

[half phoenix]

But ||the twins are in Garlemald doing charity work, not really important. Urianger and Thancred are just chilling at the Ragnarok talking to Livingway, so either moon stuff or Ultima Thule stuff for them later. G’raha and Krile are waiting for/working on random commission they have coming in for the Students of Baldesion. Y’shtola is in Matoya’s Cave between bouts of looking for a book, and Estinien is lounging in Radz-at-han, waiting to be told what he was call to Thavnair for.||

[half phoenix]

They can’t outlevel you. If you’re not 90 on the class/job the retainer is, they can’t hit it either

[graceful oak]

ooh got it. thankss!!

[pulsar heron]

Had a question about the last quest of EW, ||in the Rising Stones, if you talk to Urianger after you have your MSQ dialogue, he mentions that no one knew why the teleporter appeared when it did after your fight with Zenos. It was either your own wish or the fervent prayer of another. Does that imply Zenos was the one who wished for you to go back to Ragnarok?||

[wind bough]

||or your comrades praying for your safe return||

[half phoenix]

No, ||besides wasn’t he 100% dead once it appeared?||

[pulsar heron]

Ok, thanks!

[wind bough]

||could be a dying wish.||

Deliberately left open-ended so go with what you like

[half phoenix]

Nah, doesn’t fit his character

[wind bough]

It could

||A gift to repay the one you gave to him||

[indigo shale]

||well the whole post fandan betraying was him coming to a revelation aswell||

[half phoenix]

I’m sticking with ||it was actually alisaie chucking it out the ship and hitting the button as “payback”||

[indigo shale]

||he even managed to score a deal with krile, the one he experimented on to copy her echo||

[lean ore]

only cause krile was worried probably

[wind bough]

||you speak to her about it afterwards||

[lean ore]

that and ||he could probably kill all of them there anyway ||

[half phoenix]

||basically a “you get back here so i can give you a piece of my mind”/“i didn’t say you could die yet, did I?” mentality||

[pulsar heron]

Yeah… I like that it’s open-ended. Btw, ||how did Venat retain her memories as Hydaelyn’s heart when Elidibus lost most of his when he became Zodiark’s?||

[half phoenix]

||Same way Ysayle kept her memories of being Shiva||

[indigo shale]

||well elidibus i think was to obsessed with his duty that he forgot its purpose, also i think in a short story its mentioned he never used his memory stone to refresh himself or anything like the others||

||like it took over 10k years for eli to start losing his memories it werent as soon as he became zodiark||

[half phoenix]

||Elidibus also ripped himself out of Zodiark, while Venat, seemingly is the only one in Hydaelyn||

[lean ore]

|| Venat is Hydaelyn tho, we even call her that before the trial 🤔 ||

[pulsar heron]

||The soul crystals were made by Emet-Selch for the convocation so it’s not like Venat had a soul crystal of her own. Might be the obsession as you mentioned. Will be interesting to see the original Elidibus’s personality in the Pandaemonium series||

[indigo shale]

||i wonder what his name will be, as its pre convocation elidibus, so hes not elidibus yet there||

[lean ore]

lmao whats these lines

[half phoenix]

||I mean like if she removed herself from Hydaelyn, Hydaelyn would cease to be, while Zodiark had countless souls making up his body||

[lean ore]

true

[indigo shale]

||i think its implied in 5.2 it was more than just venat, it was a whole splinter faction with venat going to be the heart||

[pulsar heron]

||Lol, maybe Zeus. Wonder what’s the significance of his white robe then, since only Venat had it and she was retired||

[indigo shale]

||white robe means impartial or emissary, so most likely he was just an advisor before the convocation||

[lean ore]

|| pretty sure they explain the Emmisarry and former members of the convocation wear white robes ||

also advisors like || Venat was ||

[half phoenix]

||Yet doesn’t the cutscene around Aitascape have just her summon Hydaelyn after summoning her sword against a handful of random ancients?||

[lean ore]

|| random ancients who wanted to sacrifice to zodiark as well ||

[indigo shale]

||post elpis CS you mean? she says in the same CS i screenshotted she can keep her form of venat when summoning hydae||

[half phoenix]

||Venat was a former member, and former members seem to be looked down upon, because they chose not to die, since Emet had some distain for Venat when talking about it.||

[half phoenix]

It was right before the ||scenes of her looking back through memories and being covered in more and more “blood”||

[indigo shale]

||well either way she says she can chose her form at will, so most likely she stayed as venat until she didnt want to, which was after she sundered the world or soon after at least||

[lean ore]

|| they may be but she was well respected from other people xD ||

[indigo shale]

||im gonna assume this unamed next to venat was who she made the watcher||

[slender siren]

You guys remember the Avere and Edda story right?

[lean ore]

yeah

[slender siren]

Msq 83||Zenos taking your body is a good representation|| of what if she succeeded

It’s almost scary thinking about it

[late aurora]

No? ||She wanted to make a new body for him|| using soul juice

[lean ore]

https://tenor.com/view/it-spooky-spooky-ikumi-nakamura-e3-e32019-gif-14310341

[slender siren]

Yes

[late aurora]

Hey I know that guy on the top

[slender siren]

What about Sage

[marsh osprey]

What about sage?

[slender siren]

The amount of times I’ve seen tanks die because the sages healing

[marsh osprey]

Then the sages suck

[late aurora]

Well here’s the thing about shielders

[marsh osprey]

I already got very decent at sage and have my dungeon rotation

[wooden dove]

Modesty edit

[north silo]

How 2 be good at sage

[marsh osprey]

Use your fucking migations

[north silo]

I only know how to spam Dosis

[marsh osprey]

They are literally free to use and you can have seamless 10% migation for a long ass time

[wooden dove]

Asking a lot

[marsh osprey]

Same for scholar really

Scholar does have more instant single target so you have to manage better on sage

But sage has free healing ressources that dont impact dps

and sage has no stupid bubble that the tank can run out of

Also properly dpsing makes kardia op as shit

[hearty ravine]

6 runs on ex2 and 0 weapons dropped smh

[wooden dove]

I'm excited to do that trial on EX. Just did the story one yesterday and I imagine its pretty fun

[marsh osprey]

Hmmh and sage potentially deals way more dps than scholar when i think about it

[north silo]

I only play dancer cause I get to throw a big bird at ||emotionally disturbed children||

[marsh osprey]

See above

[north silo]

Starfall dance as a level 90 skills isn’t that great when Fan Dance 4 literally has the same potency and the same role but on a much shorter cool down

And it’s a big bird

That caws

[ruby loom]

yo, did you guys see the thing about the crystal tower morse code saying ||It's all wrong||?

[gaunt star]

the what

[ruby loom]

https://youtu.be/ZkS1kd-mxxs?t=4588

morse code plays at the end

it says "It's all wrong", ||the same line Meteion said as she received her report from the shared consciousness||

the crystal tower was designed to receive the energy from the sun through dalamud originally, so it makes sense that it can also catch ||interstellar|| sounds

https://old.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/i254p8/crystal_tower_morse_code/?context=3 reddit post from shortly around5.3 released

[hearty ravine]

Imo 2 is easier than 1. 1 has so much bullshit

[ornate wharf]

the thing FFXIV does when they show your character name as the WoL in the post-expac credits is so nice...it got me weak in the knees when I first saw it, especially with the weight of Endwalker 😦

[wooden dove]

I was afraid of that. Not that I wanted to base my judgement on how the story trial went with randoms but it sure was painful to watch 4 dps be dead for 45 minutes

[magic forge]

i noticed SGE Dosis has 330 potency. greatest among healers

[iron birch]

what lack of ||pudding|| does to someone

[urban phoenix]

oh boi thats some serious underweight

[sudden spruce]

Someone call a doctor i cant stop crying ||every time i hear flow being played in houses||

[iron birch]

question for eu players, are queue still 2-3 k rn?

[lean ore]

that was a great part lol

[ruby loom]

"good reason" is also purely subjective. for zenos himself, his "good reason" was just to challenge the WoL and fight at the peaks of their powers

doesn't absolve him of his crimes and despicable behavior of course

[indigo shale]

hes more saying that, even if his motivation was a sob story, you'd still not fucking care or agree with him because of said outcome is bad and evil

[light sail]

Yeah, but many people look for villains that have some overarching plan, or good intentions that went awry, etc, they consider them "good villains" because supposedly they have more "depth". But when you have a "villain" that's actually acting on good intentions, or a sense of morality, that really makes them more of an antihero with bad methods, not a true villain.

Emet-Selch is a good example of that

[ruby loom]

people are too preoccupied with the thought of every villain needing to have a compelling or interesting story of why they end up as villains

[light sail]

^ Exactly. What makes Zenos such a great villain is because his only real intention is "Because I wanted to."

[lean ore]

i loved Zenos this expansion tbh

[ruby loom]

Zenos was pretty much raised to be a monster without compassion. his ridiculous strength is the only coincidence. Varis created a monster of his own making by showing his own son the cold shoulder and having his combat teachers almost murder him

[light sail]

He doesn't care about the world, or some idea of saving people, doesn't even bother trying to defend his actions or seeking sympathy. He just does what he does because he can.

[weary rampart]

surprisingly ,SCH is more favourable than sage in my recent runs

[ruby loom]

The WoL is the same as Zenos: a monster. The key difference is the bonds formed with the people
hence "mirror"

[indigo shale]

man if emet werent a omnicidal maniac whose actions will permanently scar the source for all eternity, maybe we could claim he was an anti hero with bad methods, but i say hes crossed the line into where he is pure evil

[lean ore]

when alisaie called zenos out she got a reaction outta him xd

[ruby loom]

he is not intended to be seen as a hero or anti hero

[lean ore]

funny how even he couldnt believe he would do all that stuff tho

[north silo]

So is ||Meteion actually intentionally a villain or is it just the emotions that have tainted her that makes her the villain and therefore the Endsinger||

[ruby loom]

the only thing zenos truly learned was to respect the wishes of the WoL, which is why he gives them the option to just leave later on. ||Naturally the narrative itself requires of you a final battle but there is an ever so slightly change of heart with zenos||

[light sail]

From what I could see the tragedy that they experienced through others emotions was too much for them to bear and they went insane.

[lean ore]

|| the things her sisters witnessed and learned etc drove her crazy ||

[ruby loom]

||if you pay attention to the dialogue inside the final dungeon (the books lying around) and what the endsinger tells about "only when we gave in we found salvation, everything just became too much and even though they almost all resisted the despair, they all just gave in eventually due to the weight of it||

[lean ore]

in general tho the largest fault lies with || Hermes ||

[light sail]

It makes sense, he wants a grand "final battle" with you, not a hunt. Meaning it would have to be agreed upon rather than him just attacking you.

[north silo]

So basically || you can argue Hermes is the villain (unintentionally) since he created them to feel and absorb those emotions||

[light sail]

Yeah, Hermes really did some dumb shit

[ruby loom]

||Hermes was just too naive and idealistic, sadly. He's just a tragic character||

[lean ore]

meanwhille people are mad zenos wasnt a trial

[indigo shale]

||its why you shouldnt ask ai with free will, flawed questions||

[light sail]

Definitely should have been tbh, with how much the battle with him was built up for so long now

[indigo shale]

||||they could pull a memoria misera ex as all that was the WoL wanting to fight harder| so why not with zenos|||

[north silo]

Gonna go ||ask Alexa what the meaning of life is and see if it tries to murder me hold on||

[lean ore]

|| it wouldnt fit for the 1v1 he wanted with THE WoL alone narratively ||

[glossy hemlock]

I like how they did it tbh

[indigo shale]

||all the Ex's are reimagining's anyway, so it woudnt change the original fights narrative||

[ruby loom]

ironically, ||he's also a hero in a sense, as his creation of meteion is also what made venat see the faults of her own people, thus "sundering them from temptation" of only looking back to the good times instead of looking forward and finding happiness through suffering||

[glossy hemlock]

It was incredibly satisfying to play imo and I’m just waiting for NG+ now to do it again lol

[light sail]

|| Yes, but she could have learned that without Hermes purposely letting Meteion go after finding out she wanted to destroy everything||

[sudden spruce]

Ng+ when

[lean ore]

i mean the canon stuff not the reimaginings xd

so just the msq basically

[ruby loom]

||without knowledge of the future no she didn't. if it weren't for emet, us and hythlo meeting her she'd have had no idea of what was wrong||

[indigo shale]

||basically time travel be a bitch and its a closed loop where when we returned the timelines converged so it would always happen, but not till that point||

[north silo]

So the real villain in this is ||unbridled despair/unchecked emotion|| so basically they’re advocating for therapists

[light sail]

And in any case I think the world not being destroyed is more important than learning a lesson lol, a lesson she might've eventually learned in time anyway.

[light sail]

Yeah, I really loved the big mental health theme throughout all of EW.

[ruby loom]

||ironically, us traveling there was already set in stone as elidibus remembered us (preview of the pandaemonium raid) without even having set foot into the occular's portal||

[indigo shale]

||thats when the timelines started to converge, as elidibus freaked out when he remembered us, we retroactively gave him new old memories||

[light sail]

||You can tell it already happened anyway, because of the time paradox of Argus remembering who you were on the moon and already liking you. It's because you had fought Vanat in the past.||

[ruby loom]

||but how do they converge when it happened before we even time travelled?||

[ruby loom]

||exactly. the timelines had already long since converged. for all intents and purposes it was always "destined" to be that way||

[indigo shale]

||well seems it was set in stone as soon as he mentioned he could do it, so all the events had happened in that selfsame instant when he confirmed we could go back, but they didnt happen before that||

[north silo]

||Zenos is a bit of an Anti-Hero by the end of EW||

[weary rampart]

the 1st trial EX dps check are too tight

[light sail]

||I believe even Hydaelyn giving you her blessing from the very beginning is only because she remembered you from the past, and in reality the ENTIRE game from the very beginning was just a Flashpoint style time paradox.||

[gaunt star]

What motivates Zenos is a feeling of emptiness/depression, he is unable to feel the same joy that everyone else has outside of one thing only one person can give him. He even says this pretty blatantly. His goal is simple, but the underlying reason for said goal is ultimately very human. ||He ends up meshing well with the themes of EW, especially in that he learns to at least work with someone else to achieve the spark he has been desperate to obtain.||

[north silo]

Yeah so he’s a bit of an Anti-hero by the end

[ruby loom]

they seriously are not. the dps checks are more than lenient enough

[north silo]

Kind of a good ending for him if he doesn’t somehow return

[light sail]

Eh, idk if I'd say just working with someone makes you an Anti-hero

The difference between a Hero, Anti-hero, and Villain is intentions + method.

[north silo]

He didn’t have to ||come and help||

He literally says he’d rather not but does anyway

[indigo shale]

||if he returns then the writers have mega explaining to do, as hes not on the star so he cant return to the aetherial sea, and his voidsent should consume his soul as thats what they do||

[light sail]

Heroes and Anti-heroes have the same intentions but different methods, and Villains have different intentions entirely, even if their methods match the others to serve their own goal.

[ruby loom]

yup. even though emet-selch helps you (example seat of sacrifice) he's still ultimately a villain acting out of self interest to get back to times lost

[light sail]

The fact that Zenos did what he did specifically to serve his own selfish goal, rather than for the sake of someone else, would still place him in Villain territory.

[gaunt star]

He's not an Anti-Hero by any means, he still wants what he wants. ||But he genuinely does consider his methods, and changes up how he would attain what he wants, coming to an understand with others and the focus of his goal. He even offers to let us leave if we so choose.||

[ruby loom]

anyone who watched dragon ball super: I know the story isn't complex, but anyone saying frieza became an anti-hero for working with the heros in the tournament of power would also be wrong. He's still a villain and the same applies to Zenos

[north silo]

I never said he IS an antihero I said he’s a BIT of one meaning he’s like one but not entirely

[light sail]

He isn't even like one. Anti-heroes kill people specifically with the purpose of saving others.

[thorny flax]

Zenos entire act was selfish just so he could enjoy his life. that's why he also calls us his mirror image because the WoL did always the opposite. It's really cool that Zenos is the one that welcomes us to do for the very first time what we really want and that isn't tied to our duty as WoL

[gaunt star]

||He still did it in the end without expectation that we would 100% for sure battle him. He allows us to leave if we wished. which is a far cry from how he would have handled it in the past.||

[indigo shale]

i would still like to know what emet and elidibus did to zenos at a young age, as clearly it prevented him from expressing/having emotions

[ruby loom]

gotta thank ||alisae for her words that made him ponder||

[light sail]

Intention is the primary difference between "Good" and "Bad" So essentially to categorize this: Heroes = Good intentions + Good methods, Anti-hero = Good intentions + mixed/sometimes bad methods, Villain = Bad intentions + Whatever methods achieves those intentions at the time.

[hollow sapphire]

I feel like the Reaper gauge bars in simple mode are way too separated. I wish they were coupled just like the red mage gauge bars

[lean ore]

[light sail]

He was referring to us, the player as the "hero", not himself

[thorny flax]

it's ironic that the guy with reaper as job is the one that wants to enjoy life the most btw

[lean ore]

i know fran.

[light sail]

Also, I love how they called us the "Light within the darkness" basically, then I walked out in full black Reaper glam with a huge bloody scythe

[weary rampart]

wiping 3 times in add phase and gotten to 26% HP for enrage in practice party

a lot ppl didnt know that they can dps during platform turn

[thorny flax]

I think that's because the first time they show it you are in a cutscene

[ruby loom]

that's on them. first time in 2nd trial extreme we wiped at over 20% consistently in the first practice party I joined because people were simply not properly keeping to the ABC principle

it's just an optimization issue

if you have people doing less than 5k dps at 90 then they're doing something wrong for the most time

[light sail]

If I'm leading parties for ex trials and stuff, I like to remove all ground markers after we've cleared it a few times.

[north silo]

Starfall Dance and Fan Dance 4 are hitting for like 48k each 😨

[weary rampart]

if u hate that 3 skill, does that mean u like Malefic ?

[marsh osprey]

||found hermes browsing reddit||

[gaunt star]

Ok ok ok ok ok ok ok, is there a way to replay the final battle of Endwalker. Not the trial, you know what I'm talking about.

[lean ore]

not yet

[blissful bolt]

Sadly not until new game +

[gaunt star]

Ghahciofhwjhdh, the wait is going to be painful

[blissful bolt]

I still want to replay the entire zone 5 arc

So I feel you

[gaunt star]

I'm glad I took a million screenshots of that moment, but if I knew that NG+ wasn't out yet I'd save an entire recording of it

Fuuuuuuuuuuuu

Now the question stands: What will arrive first? Endwalker 6.1 with NG+ or Discord for Playstation.

[amber quarry]

I think the writers over at Square need a hug.

[gaunt star]

I think ||whoever wrote Zenos needs a hug, that last "I..."|| made me saaaaaad.

[amber quarry]

Depression wiped out the universe! *probably with help

[indigo solstice]

they'll probably wait with new game+ so that people who finish msq make space for those who havent had the change yet

I assume so at least

[gaunt star]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-in-pain-ahh-ouch-it-hurts-in-pain-gif-16907628

[amber quarry]

Everyone wants to die and their only comfort is to bring everyone else with them. Lovely stuff Natsuka.

I'm only up to Lore Dump Island but I thought the name Meteion was just a touch on the nose

Names Meteion. Meteion Devastation.

[hearty ravine]

What does ||viator in zenos name means||?

[indigo shale]

||traveller||

[vernal nacelle]

I assume much like Shadowbringers you get access to EW's AF gear sometime early in the last zone?

[hearty ravine]

Ah

[indigo shale]

||garlemald uses it as title for exile/outcast, but its definition is literal traveller||

[grand olive]

Hii, does anyone know what melds would be most useful for the level 90 crafting set? Is cp or control more useful?

[glossy hemlock]

I don’t know if I’ve seen the Expert recipes for EE stuff yet so I couldn’t say

Usually you only need CP up to a certain amount for your macro so you don’t prioritize it

[grand olive]

Ah I see, I never really did endgame crafting before so I'm not sure how to go about it :D!

[glossy hemlock]

You’ll just have to figure out how much CP you will end up needing

[grand olive]

Mm so I guess I'll just slot whatever I can remove easily until the master recipes come out?

[glossy hemlock]

Yeah don’t bother pentamelding anything yet

[next quarry]

before it

[grand olive]

Okie thank you :D!

[next quarry]

you'll be guided to the af gear

[wooden dove]

I was pleasantly surprised by some of the AF sets this time

[indigo shale]

hmm just thinking about ||Chi, maybe they should utilise the CE system from Bozja so when the world boss fate spawns no one can pull immediately till timer runs down, that way a repeat of yesterday wont happen where Odin was getting invaded by the other worlds and then chat wars breaking out over pulling the boss||

[wooden dove]

As nice as that would be I'm not optimistic about the odds of that seeing as we've let hunts and other world bosses be the cluster fucks they currently are for so long.

[mellow nymph]

So second trial spoilers a bit: ||is it just me or is Hydaelin rather beautiful? (Trying to say this and not use any other weird words XD) she is really attractive.||

[wooden dove]

|| I think they did a great job capturing her like the amano art. Really otherworldly. I liked the design a lot- and the fight, too ||

[mellow nymph]

||i was surprised by how straightforward the fight was, it fits Venat too, also having the scions help us too for the first time in a trial was awesome, cant wait for Ex||

[wooden dove]

Same on all fronts. I'm still early in the final zone since I'm playing in 2-3 hour chunks after my daughter goes to bed haha

I'm really excited to do the EX

[unborn ferry]

I'm watching streamers during the ||final Zenos fight||, and... NONE OF THEM have noticed the opening mechanics ||are the same as Shinryu||, they all just look at ||Tidal Wave|| unsure of what to do, then at the ||AoEs|| on the other side and STILL can't do the math.

And this is really bothering me...

[lean ore]

tbf solo duties show how bad a lot of em are

[unborn ferry]

Very true...
But it's not even being "bad", its just a complete lack of... Awareness? Game memory?
I mean, sure, most of us last did Shinryu about 4 years ago, but still.

A friend of mine just labelled this issue as "Boomers", where they can't seem to do the most basic of 'advanced' thinking.
You know the type of player, the one who forgets they have a shield after the shield tutorial and has no idea how to survive a room full of projectiles.

But none of the people I've seen so far are actual boomers.

[lean ore]

yeah xd

[unborn ferry]

||With Zepla, she kept 'dying' to his MINE FOR THE TAKING|| and never, not one time during the entire fight, did she associate that voice line with its corresponding attack.
She also failed the ||A test of your reflexes||, which was pretty funny.

[wooden dove]

Almost like its not a good or reasonable assessment to label a whole generation of players with a 'skill issue' label lol

[unborn ferry]

Very true.
I'm not hatin' on these streams btw. Love 'em to bits.

I'm just genuinely shocked at how unaware they seem to be. Like... are THEY the odd ones out, or are we?
We might sit here and think "Damn, how did they not figure that out? It was so easy", but maybe we're just... better at the game?

But I don't think I'm that good. I only got Blues in E8-12S. If that. Mostly Greens.

[onyx sundial]

Zepla still cleared TEA at least

[unborn ferry]

This one tank who is standing in all the damage and gettin' away with it cus Tank Privilege has his HUD laid out in such a way as to not be able to see what the enemy is casting or his own buffs/debuffs.
||So he didn't even notice the Thunder/Fire casts, nor did he realize he had that 6 lives thing||

Yeah, we can all say she good.
Ain't no way you're getting carried through an Ultimate

[onyx sundial]

I guess some people just cant intuit mechanics as good as other people

[unborn ferry]

Yeah, I guess thats it.

[pallid fox]

I'm honestly always surprised when people don't pick up on certain mechanics that I find "obvious", but I struggle on mechanics that others seem to understand easily.

Like the first boss in the last story dungeon of EW. I picked up on how the mechanic worked almost immediately, but most other people I've seen doing it for the first time seem to struggle.

[north silo]

Is ||Meteion still alive? Is she that blue bird that flies off to the crystal tower?||

[onyx sundial]

Yes

[unborn ferry]

Tidal Wave is a pretty common Mechanic, though, right? And it leaves puddles on the floor. So when you see a Fire/Thunder spell being cast, shouldn't you make the connection instantly?

There is water on the floor, and he is casting a thunder spell. Probably shouldn't stand in the water.

Like, it goes beyond mechanical knowledge and enters the realm of common sense.

But I notice lots of people can't seem to get their head out of the "Its a video game" mode and won't bring real world common sense with them.

[pallid fox]

I see people screw that up all the time on actual Shinryuu

[unborn ferry]

"Well how was I meant to know I shouldn't stand in the water when there's a Thunder spell?"

[onyx sundial]

Stand in water to reduce fire damage

[pallid fox]

That particular mechanic showed up as far back as Syrcus Tower, even.

[unborn ferry]

A giant tidal wave coming from one side, AoEs on the opposite wall.
"Hmm... Nope, no idea what this mechanic does."

[ruby loom]

the buffs even say "lighting vulnerability up" or "fire vulnerability down"

[unborn ferry]

I'm noticing a lot of the ex-WoW streamers don't actually read their debuffs...

[pulsar current]

Yeah and casting fire attacks on ifirt works, this game wack

[unborn ferry]

Well, I mean, not just them.

[pallid fox]

You'd be surprised how many people simply tunnel when they're fighting and don't pay attention to flying text at all.

[wooden dove]

Yep. I'm able to intuit a great deal but sometimes there's just something about a certain boss or mechanic that just doesn't register in my brain until it kicks my ass a few times.

[unborn ferry]

To be fair, in 1.X it didn't. There actually WERE Elemental weaknesses and resistances.

[ruby loom]

I personally found this less of a problem and more so getting used to visual indicators of the boss model's animation. On the other hand I played this game casually until late SB. So tsukiyomi was the first wake up call for me

[lean ore]

blm heals ifrit pogg

[pallid fox]

Same, tbh. Usually once I've been hit by a mechanic I can understand it well enough to not repeat the mistake. Except for ||turning platform + serpents + behemoths/birds on Zodiark EX||

[unborn ferry]

The visual indicators 100% need to be updated for older content. A lot of the mechanics that would go on to use specific markers, like TBs and Stacks Markers, don't use their new markers and instead rely on you knowing beforehand what the attack does through trial and error

I'm so glad they finally have a marker specifically for a multihit stack AoE

[ruby loom]

I'm talking about stuff like Titania's "is it a donut aoe or move out of circle aoe" or the current 89 ex trial's crystallize ability

[pallid fox]

Yeah, there are a lot of markers that they've since changed in older content, like the lightning stack using the purple arrow indicator instead of the newer orange arrows on Five Headed Dragon in Crystal Tower

I do appreciate that they add new markers with every expansion to make things clearer - like the addition of the multihit stack marker for Akh Morn-type attacks and the double tank stack markers this expansion.

[unborn ferry]

Streamer said "Alright... I don't remember what this ability does. Maybe the reaper one?"

[ruby loom]

oof

[unborn ferry]

... Manually clicking the button itself with his mouse, I can't.

[ruby loom]

although to be fair unless you've actually done final coil or tanked shinryu or paid attention to nidhogg or lunar bahamut it's really hard to know what it does 🤔

[unborn ferry]

"It's not actually that common of an ability"

proceeds to list 10+ important story bosses that casts the ability

Nyeheheh~

[ruby loom]

I thought the 🤔 was enough of an indicator for my sarcasm 🤔

[indigo shale]

yeah if youve never seen a dragon before or played summoner in the game, its an easy ability to forget

[unborn ferry]

Ah, I'm autistic so unless you end it with /s I won't know its sarcasm.

[viscid monolith]

Well off the top of my head there are 2 story bosses that Ahk Morn

[unborn ferry]

I... legitimately cannot believe people actually need /s to tell sarcasm online. >_>

[viscid monolith]

But those were a while ago

[unborn ferry]

Everybody knows Summoner's kit.
Summon Ahk Morn.
Enkindle Ahk Morn.
Rouse Ahk Morn.
Ahk Morn.
Ruby Ahk Morn.
Topaz Ahk Morn.
Emerald Ahk Morn.

[hollow sapphire]

This is Thancred

[onyx sundial]

Everyone knows what ahk morn is at this point

[lean ore]

whats that

[viscid monolith]

The Get Fukt Circle

[lean ore]

https://tenor.com/view/smirk-anime-anime-girl-smirk-zenith-evil-smirk-funny-smile-gif-20308316

[marsh osprey]

anybody did endwalker gathering? whats the fastest way to level it up? excluding fisher

[unborn ferry]

So... ||I think Zenos might come back AGAIN.||

||His left arm. It didn't return to normal upon his detransformation.||

[wooden dove]

when it comes to who remembers what mechanics all I'll say is never underestimate someone's ability to be carried through any story content to 90 without learning a single thing

[indigo shale]

||hes in the middle of nowhere if his voidsent dont eat his soul he aint getting anywhere||

[lean ore]

Studium deliveries, collectables and leves

[wooden dove]

Had a dragoon in ||Zodiark|| that did not learn a single mechanic for 45 minutes.

[lean ore]

least i did those for my btn/mnr

[unborn ferry]

||His Avatar may be claiming his body. And strong emotions control Dynamis. I don't think its out of the question for his Voidsent to take over, tap into that burning passion for combat and use it to bring a new calamity to Etheirys||

[humble heron]

||hes at the edge of the universe and cant soulhop anywhere else. Hes super dead||

[marsh osprey]

time to buy beer then, can i do studium deliveries at lv 80 already?

[lean ore]

they are like job quests, every couple of levels but they give a lot of exp

[unborn ferry]

Just FATE grind, or grind Mt Gulg to Lv81.

[lean ore]

based on the quality of the stuff u turn in anyway

[marsh osprey]

ah wait i have to do aethercurrents first

healer queues so fast i only could get almost 2 areas done until lv 90

[lean ore]

xD

[wooden dove]

that pains me physically

[lean ore]

https://www.ffxiv-gathering.com/60.php i use this for collectables

[unborn ferry]

Anyone else upset that the Imperial Gunblade isn't an actual Garlean Gunblade, but a fuckin... Saw?

[wind bough]

Why would you be upset about getting a chainsaw

[unborn ferry]

I wanted an Imperial Gunblade.

[crystal arrow]

gnb gunblades are not the same as garlean gunblades so....

[lean ore]

^

[unborn ferry]

No, but the first Gunbreakers did use Garlean Gunblades, iirc.

[wind bough]

No they didn’t

[lean ore]

uhh no garleans made theirs based on gnb ones

[wind bough]

Gunbreaker predates Garlean gunblades by about five thousand years

[crystal arrow]

no, they did not.

[unborn ferry]

Ah, right.
I got the order wrong.

Still, it was the perfect opertunity for an Imperial Gunblade for the sake of Glamour.

[wind bough]

The starter craftable gunblade is pretty close

[quick widget]

Is it safe so skip the credits? Or will I miss a scene if I did so?

[crystal arrow]

you may miss a scene or two

[wind bough]

No it’s safe

[unborn ferry]

I don't think you do. Its safe. Just don't skip the scene that comes AFTER the credits

[wind bough]

Skipping takes you straight to ||the walking scene||

[hearty ravine]

Why is dungeon 5 10 times harder than 6 and 7 smh

[quick widget]

The walking scene is the first scene after the credits?

[wind bough]

Yes

[quick widget]

Took a nice screenshot

How many ex trials can I unlock now?

[lean ore]

2

[quick widget]

Shouldn’t it be 3?

[lean ore]

lvl 83 and 89 trials, lvl 90 trial 6.1 probs

[quick widget]

Oh

[lean ore]

least hades ex released in 5.1 xd

[crystal arrow]

the final x.0 ex trial is generally not available in x.0, yeah

[marsh osprey]

time for aether current grind

[unborn ferry]

I have SEVERAL questions in regards to that, and the implications...

Are there hunts that can only be found in Elpis?

Why can merchants trade you weapons that are a perfect replica of the ones obtained through defeating ||Hydaelyn||?

[marsh osprey]

||elpis|| is spoiler and yes

[unborn ferry]

Well, Elpis is just a location name. No real spoiler there. I spoiler tagged the only actual spoiler :v

[marsh osprey]

still a spoiler

[unborn ferry]

Uh... Okay...

[marsh osprey]

its a hidden location and not in the trailers or ad material

[unborn ferry]

Spoilers without context aren't spoilers, but alright?

[indigo shale]

but it sets an expectation

[unborn ferry]

None was set until someone said it was a spoiler.

[marsh osprey]

for the msq its A MASSIVE spoiler that ||elpis|| is a zone

[heady sorrel]

but did we know ||Elpis was the name of the Ancient Area|| before we actually get there in this expansion? was it ever mention before I don't remember

[dawn wave]

no

[indigo shale]

||it was never mentioned once, till elidibus mentioned it 5 seconds before sending us there||

[heady sorrel]

hmm then i'm not really sure if it would* be considered a spoiler then

[marsh osprey]

you can stand on this place labyrinthos

you walk on the entire fucking thing amazing

[short edge]

I really like the labyrinthos area.

[marsh osprey]

its nice, i do like ||elpis|| the most, its friggin beautiful

[cloud roost]

worst part about labyrinthos is you can't fly up to the "sun"

[short edge]

Oh definitely. Mind was blown when I found out we were going to ||the world unsundered|| but god I love all the areas this expansion.

[marsh osprey]

this is stuff i didnt want to hear

[cloud roost]

i'm sorry, little one

[marsh osprey]

now im dissapointed

[cloud roost]

how do you think i felt

[marsh osprey]

also fucking accompany and tailgating quest shouldnt be a thing

[livid condor]

msq discussion is allowed here? or rather just general story beats

[bleak ravine]

I can't be that mean to Raha...

[lean ore]

its allowed, just use spoiler tags

[livid condor]

oi ok
I just love/hate ||fandaniel lol. he shows up in genius points (i'm currently in garlemald and he popped up at the end before the tower of babil). He's such a great villain! Moreso than Zenos imo||

[gaunt star]

Just finished my MSQ and I thought ShB made me cry a lot. Hot dang.

[marsh osprey]

i swear to fucking god

fuck these shitty tailing mission

[livid condor]

lol those are indeed annoying

[marsh osprey]

literally there to waste your time

[turbid helm]

should've been more sneaky

[lean ore]

the only one i had trouble with was the garlean side quest tbh, but because of a fate xd

[leaden furnace]

that scene with estinien and the alchemist with just a bunch of slapped on sound effects i can't bro... what did i just watch

[next quarry]

welcome to endwalker

[livid condor]

|| I fucking hate "in from the cold" mission and this stupid god damn imperial soldier part ffs ||

[indigo shale]

||sounds like it achieved the desired effect||

[north silo]

When they said it was as long as 5.0-5.3 they meant the distance traveled via in game walking

[wet crown]

Immersive, isn't it?

[livid condor]

it was fun the first time, but the scaling even on easy mode is pretty meh and it just keeps on ganking me so it's more frustrating than fun.

[grim coral]

So does moving the camera and performing emotes help stave off the AFK boot timer?

[wet crown]

Sounds like someone's bad at stealth.

[indigo shale]

why do you want to do that, if you are going to be afk that long, log out and let someone else who wants to actually play, play

[north silo]

Exactly the queues are a nightmare as is and I get that you don’t wanna requeue, no one does, but you’re literally adding to the problem by trying to avoid being booted when AFK

[supple saffron]

Wait, I like ||Elidibus|| now?

Voice actor is god tier

[orchid dagger]

an alternative suggestion to speed up your queue time on work days without contributing to the problem would be to use a remote desktop client to queue up an hour or two before leaving work, so you'll be at least halfway through it by the time you get home. You have to suffer through the primetime queue to get a feel for how long your wait normally is though, so you don't have the problem of getting through it too soon, and then getting AFK kicked before you can get home, and have to start over. Queus for me are 2.5-3 hours, so remote queue 2 hours before i get off work, and then only have to wait 30 minutes or so after I get home to finaly play.

[indigo shale]

yeah elidibus va is very good, one of the best in the game imo

[cloud roost]

||both of his "final" scenes made me cry and i'm not ashamed to admit it||

[thorny flax]

I really liked Raha's performance this expansion

[indigo shale]

raha is also good, ||hythlodaeus was also very good||

[thorny flax]

the va is so good

[indigo shale]

the english VA is the best ive ever heard of any game before

like pretty much everyone post ARR knocks it out of the park

[orchid dagger]

the only loss on the VA switch was losing Gideon Emery as Urianger and Mary Elizabeth McGlynn as Hydaelyn.

[thorny flax]

It's so insane. I was extremely worried about Endwalker bc of Covid. But they freaking did it

they even made an almost perfect stat squish

[tidal mauve]

killing shinryu tails still says he takes 400k damage by the way

[orchid dagger]

i'd swear roulettes actually pay better rewards no. or maybe thats having the Tanking bonus back

[tidal mauve]

sqex runs on lies

[indigo shale]

probably, as a dps player i will never see roulette bonus rewards so i cant say

[thorny flax]

playing healer feels also so good this expansion compared to shb. the healers feel way more unique again

[orchid dagger]

DPS only sees rewards on Alliance Raids and Gulidhests

[viscid monolith]

And then you dc 30 minutes into your session

[indigo shale]

Are DC's common on NA?

[viscid monolith]

Left at the back of your queue with nothing but your hatred to keep you warm

[orchid dagger]

Sometimes. Its a risk. but the risk is the same whether at home or at work. so i just keep the remote client open so i can requeue quickly if there's a hiccup. t he only worry is if the queue glitches while in tranist from work to home.

[viscid monolith]

I dced two days in a row right in the middle of primetime

[orchid dagger]

Same.

[indigo shale]

European servers have worked a charm for me so far havent DC'd once

[viscid monolith]

It took me 4 hours and 3 2002s but I got back in

[thorny flax]

I really hope the can fix the queue. It's a shame that a 10/10 game gets ruined by this bs

[viscid monolith]

The worst part is having to babysit the queue

[orchid dagger]

i really want to do extreme trials while they're relevant, but i dont' know if i'm going to be able to reliably get in on time to find a learning party with enough playtime to actually... learn

[indigo shale]

unless stock comes back in for semi conductors magically, its not getting fixed soon unfortunately, but once msq only players are done itll die down a bit anyway

[thorny flax]

I love how the biggest complaints about Endwalker are currently the queue and if Endwalker is a 10.5/10 game or shadowbringers xD

because it means that the general opinion in the playerbase is that the game is very good

[orchid dagger]

||i've heard a few edgelords complain that they're upset none of hte scions died, or that its paced worse than Stormblood. But they seem to be a vocal minority. Everyone i know personally is raving about it. ||

[thorny flax]

||the only pacing fuck ups are labyrinthion 2 and maybe the other part of the moon||

[indigo shale]

||the pacing is odd, but like stormblood they are putting a lot of split areas across multiple continents in one expansion, rather than across 2 each so its understandable||

[orchid dagger]

||i feel like hte moon pacing was deliberate because they wanted a nice long breather before the emotional roller coaster crested that hill in the next zone, took off the speed governor, and went crazy.||

[indigo shale]

||ofc with EW they learnt a bit from SB on doing the split a bit better, but still||

[thorny flax]

shadowbringers had a few pacing issues as well but they weren't as big in terms of length

[void crescent]

Hi friends, a friend of mine saw the Female Omega gear linked in shout chat earlier, do we have any information on how to obtain that?

[tidal mauve]

pogstation

[thorny flax]

I think that's why people think the pacing is weird in some cases in Endwalker

[cloud roost]

||hey we heard you like the torn from the heavens remix so would you like to hear it for an hour as you run in a giant circle looking for npcs?||

[indigo shale]

||idk the whole of ahm areng and il mheg felt quite long ||

[pseudo quiver]

theres omega gear in rhalgrs but idk if thats it

[orchid dagger]

my pacing issues vanished when i stopped trying to do side quests. Once i limited myself to ones that unlocked aether currents and gear coffers, it became much less of a slog.

[pseudo quiver]

if you blame pacing on side quests, uhhhhhhh lmfao

[void crescent]

No, it was very clearly the costume set, but I can't understand how it was linked if it isn't already in game somewhere, since the mogstation doesn't have it yet.

[pseudo quiver]

what was it called?

[orchid dagger]

side quests really are this game's weakest point. most of the time, they're boring filler. there are a few gems hidden away, but typically not worth the trouble to find them. ESPECIALLY the "quest chain" ones, which just feel like padding stuffed with more padding, and cushioned by even more padding.

[indigo shale]

by side quests do you mean yellow quests or blue

[void crescent]

Female Omega Attire

[orchid dagger]

yellow

[indigo shale]

because if its yellow quests ofc it feels like boring filler they are meant to

[thorny flax]

my sage is 90 after the next main scenario roulette widepeepoHappy

[indigo shale]

they arent meant to be epic adventures, just general adventruing stuff showing the lives of the every day citizens and stuff

[thorny flax]

red mage next

[pseudo quiver]

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Female_Omega_Attire
interesting its not tradable, so probally future mog?

[orchid dagger]

same. I got PLD and SAM to 90. next is RDM, then WHM, then i have to finally pick a ranged physical class for the final role quest.

[void crescent]

How was it linked in game, though?

[pseudo quiver]

i mean its in the game files, and uh cough there some item broswers that exist cough

[void crescent]

Huh. I mean, I knew things like that existed, but linking something like that in public just seems way too reckless

Thanks for helping me ♥

[hollow sapphire]

What do you guys do to level your jobs to 90?

Aside from roulettes

[indigo shale]

from 80-90 dungeons, currently best way till we get the bozja equivalent for EW

[wet crown]

hunt marks and fates, too

[dusky shoal]

......

[tidal mauve]

doing trains in zadnor innit

went from 88 to 90 in little over 2 hours in zadnor

it is soul crushingly boring though

[mortal barn]

Garlemald is so gut-punching :shy:

[exotic thistle]

Sorry but I'd like to talk about particular story spoilers. Very important ones that are ||post moon and thavanir stuff||
||The going back in time thing is interesting, particularly since some of the events have opened up allot of questions.||

||Emet-Sech is a main one. Elidibus remembering having seen me implies that this would be a closed time loop of sorts, so then emet's decisions seem bazaar. He brought up the big ones like why make amaurot and invite his death, especially if he came to know of what would happen. One I'm thinking on while pondering it is why would he find amon and bring him back as fandaniel knowing full well that he would one day bring about zodiarks death and bring about the final days. I doesn't make logical sense. I'm really interested in where things go from here||

anyways that's just my own train of thought where I'm at right now

[tidal mauve]

Keep going

[exotic thistle]

I will. This stuff has got me hooked

[hollow ice]

||Elidibus also says that he only remembered seeing you after you auracited him|| this is info you already have

[exotic thistle]

hmm interesting

Well I'm going to keep going. Can't wait to get my answers

I've enjoyed guessing plot points or following story beats. Especially ||guessing fandaniel was amon the second he brought up allag before the echo kicked in|| and ||that the transformations into the blasphemy were due to negative emotions just from running the dungeon||

[slate ridge]

So the ast quests in sb involves using nocturnal sect. Now that the sects are gone, are there any differences in what you need to do?

[indigo shale]

||i took it as he only saw us after he started the loop, as we werent there till we were, when we auracited him he would never have got those memories because those events didnt happen yet, he only go those memories as soon as he said he could takes us there, same for 5.0 ending once elidibus took us to elpis emets final words took on a new meaning from what they originally were as new events are made, so what he said in 5.0 has no relation to what he will say in the loop now because the events of us going to elpis didnt happen till it did and the convergence of memories post elpis||

[lean ore]

naice

[mortal barn]

store outfit?

[indigo shale]

its not on best selling so i dont think so

[lean ore]

cant be on best selling if its not released yet tho

they wouldnt give these kinds of outfits free tho

[cloud roost]

||thing is, doesn't venat reference the convergence before you go to elpis? she mentions it on the ship to sharlayan, no?||

[autumn sandal]

I hope the raid music slaps

[mortal barn]

imagine Soken appears and slap you musically

[lean ore]

https://tenor.com/view/soken-fan-fest-lahee-otamatone-hum-gif-21581907

[mortal barn]

she was like "Really? Again?"

[autumn sandal]

Well for Pandemonium screenshot makes it look too ominous and gloomy

[lean ore]

[mortal barn]

inb4 just Lalabread's warehouse of rejected toys

[chrome sundial]

B U N

[exotic thistle]

oh yea question since people should know where I am recently ||is the fight with venat supposed to be so hard hitting or am I just undergeared. I still have lvl 80 gear on for the most part but a single blow could take 2/3rds of my health|| I finished it and really liked the challenge, but I'm just curious

[mortal barn]

the texture reminds me of a bunny-face cake I used to see

[humble heron]

||you should definitely have upgraded by that point. whats your ilvl?||

[exotic thistle]

I think 516 or so

[autumn sandal]

yeah seems like a lot of the store transmogs is if you etiher wanna look like something in game or some random weird shitposting type of attire

[humble heron]

yeah no thats not gonna cut the mustard

you have gotten coffers from the msq, open those and wear that

[exotic thistle]

lol. Well I did it as BLM so I guess I got quite the challenge

You're probably right. I've been avoiding them cause I like my Spell speed but maybe it's time I made the upgrade regardless

I do recommend trying it at that Ilvl though. Fun stuff

[humble heron]

i actually died almost immediately into the duty and just did it on very easy

[exotic thistle]

lol

[wise geode]

I just finished endwalker

[humble heron]

i personally had my fill of challenge with In From The Cold and was fine just cheesing when I needed to

[wise geode]

I need a hug 😭

[exotic thistle]

I did it on normal. Just had to learn the mechanics. Took about 4 tries

[humble heron]

@wise geode

[sullen sky]

Dumb edit I did (lv. 87 spoiler)

[minor wren]

Where are people getting those Omega attires?

[cloud roost]

completely random question/discussion about zone 6's music, ||what do y'all think that line after "Tales of loss and fire and faith" says? Everyone I've seen says different, and I personally hear "Every word on our heart impaled"||

[humble heron]

he was norted

[uncut mica]

Any of ya'll get that feeling super hard right now, where it's just now sinking in that you'll never be able to experience the MSQ for the first time, a second time?

[sullen sky]

amnesia is a thing

[uncut mica]

If only

[humble heron]

look i can help remove lots of memories with my memory stick™️ patent pending

[next quarry]

satho where do you get omega gear

[lean ore]

its in the game files, not available yet. most likely store

[next quarry]

ahhh

[uncut mica]

tfw that one female vocal part of footfalls will never be a full song

[thorny flax]

ending spoiler

this area is so amazing

[lean ore]

https://tenor.com/view/it-spooky-spooky-ikumi-nakamura-e3-e32019-gif-14310341

[sand yacht]

God damn ||Ra-la|| is bar none the creepiest thing I've seen so far. Well that and ||Meteion's story of a star governed by a god that killed its worshippers then committed suicide||

[exotic thistle]

||After enough time I can confidently say that emet-selch is a tsundere||

[sand yacht]

never gonna get tired of posting this

[exotic thistle]

||baka||

I'm at that exact moment lol

[humble heron]

||hes just such a sweet boy||

[exotic thistle]

||It's not like he cares for us or anything :P||

[bleak comet]

||is it just me, or does every scion seem pretty fucking emotionless at the fact Thancred sacrificed his fucking life? Lmao||

[hasty drum]

||that was how it felt to me too||

[exotic thistle]

aaand with that I think I'm going to go back to my story

[hasty drum]

oh no

[sand yacht]

[exotic thistle]

I thought that was about what were talking about lol

[granite nimbus]

||To me, it's more "We don't have time to grieve and we need to make sure Thancred's sacrifice wasn't in vain since there's a mad god of despair out to unmake us all."||

[sand yacht]

well I avoided this channel entirely until I was all done

[exotic thistle]

Yea I probably should from now on to lol. I just wanted to talk about stuff as I go

Ah well. No harm done. I've done worse to myself before and was kinda asking for it

[sand yacht]

Another tip: DO NOT mouse over parties in PF for now - you can get spoiled on the last zone

[exotic thistle]

Noted

[humble heron]

Also dont open your friends list

[exotic thistle]

I'll just assume that tidbit was a ||fakeout like ShB Y'shtola|| and call it a day

[vital brook]

https://www.fflogs.com/reports/tR79wKBpa8T1ygnX/#fight=last&type=damage-done I got it boys EX 1 trial spoiler

[exotic thistle]

Still those kind of scenes still hit me even when I know they are coming

well later

[vital brook]

didnt got shit from it tho, no gear or nothing 😔, just a damn totem

What do i do with this?

[sand yacht]

Nice, I'm still grinding aphorisms for my i560

[stiff pewter]

||Disowned, Exiled, Pariah||

[stiff pewter]

||He's not dead, he's in purgatory... but unless his soul is eventually destroyed I don't count him as permenantly Dealt with.

He's bound up in the part of the Universe Governed by Dynamis and still has Access to Void powers....

The fact we didn't finish him off the way we do Ascians hints at shenanigans for me.||

[mortal barn]

https://i.imgur.com/ZbwRC9k.png oh no Nero

[humble heron]

Should probably spoiler that @stiff pewter lol but i dont think hes coming back