#retired-patch-6-3-discussion

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static niche
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ahh
well yeah it've always been ea code and expansion code seperated

plush summit
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yeah because i wont be able to tp to ew areas at all

jade relic
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id try inputting the code, then checking just in case

static niche
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^

plush summit
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no i did, it wasnt letting me in any of them at all

static niche
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oof. well queue is 4k atm so have fun

plush summit
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enough time for me to eat food anyway lol

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lesson learned god damn LOL

jade relic
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one last thing to try is going to delivery moogle and doing a refresh

leaden wind
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do we already have beast tribes?

jade relic
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no

leaden wind
plush summit
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eh i already relogged so i'll just deal with it lol

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thanks for the help tho cuz that was a ride i didnt expect to go down

granite nimbus
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Are Loporrit and Matanga quests available yet?

leaden wind
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fairies it is then

static niche
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no
also... anyone wanna bet shoebill is some kinda of a clue to future content?

granite nimbus
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I was under the impression that the shoebill is just a meme.

static niche
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||given that it stalked us in SHB and on, and somehow found us in Elpis despite being told by meteion that she've never seen shoebill before and we know abstractly how old she is.||

jade relic
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level 90 unspoiled botany node in zone 6 so I get to go cry for a bit cool cool cool

glossy hemlock
main umbra
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im in pain. teleport one place another to mine/cut stuff for botanist

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can we just have a gathering zone T.T

glossy hemlock
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Diadem

main umbra
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i mean for EW loll

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like i have to go golden cocoon, then rarefield cotton, double-edge, then rarefield annite in sucession because of time

glossy hemlock
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You’re supposed to have to travel places to gather materials lol it keeps things balanced

main umbra
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it puts me in pain when i hear the final area business

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i came here to gather not to be sad ;/

ashen valley
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say i wanted to run duties for exp, what's the best duty for exp at level 80?

main umbra
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duties as in dungeons or roulletes?

ashen valley
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dungeons

main umbra
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at level 80 to 81 im assuming?

ashen valley
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yea

main umbra
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MT.Gulg if u want dungeons im pretty sure

ashen valley
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ok so i have been doing the right one

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Thanks!

main umbra
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its always the closest level that isnt a multiple of 10 (np)

next quarry
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saw the SS rank for the first time

gaunt star
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level 86 msq: ||oh my god? elpis, wtf, the trio, they're wonderful||

unreal delta
main umbra
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@gaunt star ||FFXIV is not an anime. Emet-Selch the tsundere... Allow me to introduce myself.||

unreal delta
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||Emet is such a tsun i love him||

errant perch
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||we all know best boi is graha||

granite nimbus
main umbra
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@granite nimbus ||I kinda wanna summon him in 6.0-6.5, so we can just annoy him||

granite nimbus
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Meanwhile, ||Emet is just thinking, "Why am I the only sane one here?"||

mental tangle
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Fkn healers you doom us all

main umbra
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I should make a reddit post with the meme picture, but...|| Emet is an all rounder in the trust...so.... "He attacks", "He protects", but most important he tsundere as heck.||

static niche
main umbra
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Stop. I refuse to acknowledge it

river hound
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||Zenos left alone in the void...dead? Last fight cutscene is like copied from Naruto vs Sasuke. yoshisrsly
Also...where the fuck the teleporter controller drop from? Massive plot armor||

jade relic
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|| Last fight cutscene is Metal Gear Solid 4 ||

vital brook
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hunts be like

static niche
main umbra
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as i live and breathe ACT. I thought act didnt work

late aurora
main umbra
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||"surely you mean Dynamis armor"||

static niche
late aurora
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||Zenos’s corpse doing a good for his bestie||

ornate oar
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yo are there any screens on how all the dungeon sets look like in endwalker 81-89?

river hound
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||next patch or so, we gonna have an 'Avengers (scions) Assemble moment to call all of them back. Bet||

ornate oar
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tryna find on reddit cant find shit

vital brook
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POST EW SPOILER: It looks like a tiddy

errant perch
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||I just want my graha adventure||

unreal delta
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||So...I just..uh...finished the 89 trial||

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||We Will find our own way, Venat...||

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||god for once i just want our wol to break down and cry...||

late aurora
lean ore
gaunt star
broken kettle
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||So Anima isn't a trial and is just a dungeon's final boss... I am so incredibly disappointed...|| lvl83 MSQ dungeon spoiler

open verge
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Can you get the thavnir guard gear?

open verge
wooden dove
ornate oar
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always when they show challenges or something they always ended up as trials

river hound
# glossy hemlock || Meteion ||

||She flew away before our fight. and Alisaie mentioned that Meteion reached the ship long before we did. did Met reaslly fly back? Hmmmmmmmm||

ornate oar
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no no guys

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||it was by the power of DETERMINATION||

glossy hemlock
glossy hemlock
# ornate oar ||it was by the power of DETERMINATION||

More like || “we don’t want to upset our player base and we aren’t creative enough to make new characters for you to hang out with/we don’t have the balls to kill anyone because it might make someone sad ||

granite nimbus
ornate oar
granite nimbus
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||It's not really plot armor if they explain it to you well in advance.||

ornate oar
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||like im not pissed that he aint dead but wtf was that launch trailer||

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legit biggest bait and switch that shit was

river hound
glossy hemlock
# ornate oar ||cmon they fucking BAITED US SO HARD WITH ALPHI HE HAD TO DIE||

|| the whole thing felt so cheap once I realized they we’re definitely all gonna come back. I thought for a MOMENT that at least Thancred was gonna be dead permanently and it would have been an amazing send off... But nah, once Estinien also yeeted himself I was like “ah... okay whatever, so everyone is gonna do this then?” ||

open verge
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Same

granite nimbus
errant perch
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||I was super worried right up until I saw all of them summoned because I thought something might go wrong||

ornate oar
glossy hemlock
ornate oar
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||when the trailer dropped fucking lots of us thought alphi was gonna get the axe||

ornate oar
# glossy hemlock If only

||i dont hate any of the scions it was just really weird playing the game and thinking so when the fuck does he die?||

granite nimbus
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I mean, the trailer was really good at hiding the actual plot points.

granite nimbus
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It sets up expectations only to twist them in clever ways.

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||Like the whole, "Zenos is the main bad guy" before the story examines just how shallow and tunnel visioned he is by sidelining him due to his overly narrow worldview.||

hollow ice
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I like ||that they used most of the voice lines from the trailer some how you expected and others differently||

ornate oar
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||but tbh i think all of us still expected everyone will survive in the final zone even from thancreds death, cause it would have been pretty wack if other scions goodbyes to him and thanks are only in text form||

ornate oar
hollow ice
minor wren
ornate oar
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with zodiark and hydaelyn being primals

frigid oasis
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Anyone know what Materai DRK use now?

scenic vigil
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hi, I was looking through my footage and saw a buff applied to my entire party during EX 2 called "Crest of Time Returned" - i'm pretty sure this is from a player's ability. There was a reaper in the party, was this theirs?

tropic frigate
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Reaper yes i think its just a regen

scenic vigil
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oh okay i think i found it, is it this Arcane Crest

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ah yeah it must be. the tooltip reads like its only on self but i see in the traits Enhanced Arcane Crest if that shield breaks it gives the one I quoted to the nearby party members a regen

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i heard they had something like this but i didnt know it's name so i didnt recognize the buff

lean ore
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yeah its an 100 potency cure

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which i always forget to use vierasip

split forum
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3800 queue meme

tropic frigate
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Gosh i wish i could avoid queues

trail yarrow
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hmmm.... ||i kinda wanna kill them in exchange for the removal of those collars|| 😄

gaunt star
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Man that speech ||uriange gave to the little bunny people hit me in the feels||

errant perch
trail yarrow
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nah. that act earned them their deaths. sadly, i won't be able to do it

granite nimbus
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Well, ||as they said, it'd only be an itch to the WoL after all they've survived. Holding someone they care about hostage is far more effective at restraining them than a teensy shock collar when we've taken lightning from Ramuh and Shinryu.||

trail yarrow
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i wonder if ||WoL can bring this place to ruins by himself...||

tulip geyser
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||Props to them for actually realizing WoL wouldnt give two shits about a collar on themselves||

trail yarrow
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i mean... if he survived all those primals 😄

granite nimbus
trail yarrow
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what can they do to him

hoary cobalt
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||For the zodiark trial, this is the first time I've done an extreme anything. Is it normally this hard?||

trail yarrow
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uhh, extreme is supposed to be hard. usually recommended to do an actual party, at least from my experience

ruby loom
hoary cobalt
ruby loom
# hoary cobalt Blind prog group, was a lot of fun, and watched the guide after we got to the ||...

||first group? yeah, extremes are pretty hard, all things considered. The good part is that you can learn core mechanics from the regular story version of the trial and as long as you remember those you can fairly easily piece them together for extremes. the fights are only really difficult while learning them and once you got your first kill while understanding them fully it becomes very easy to farm. provided the group doesn't consist of numskulls||

hoary cobalt
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||I feel like it is a geometry test||

pearl iron
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ShB question related to EW: ||wasn't hermes the ascian during eden's quests? and there's another one which i've forgotten the name||

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trying not to google/wiki to avoid spoilers

pearl iron
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i've just reached ||elpis||

hollow ice
ruby loom
pearl iron
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thank you

hoary cobalt
quick owl
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Yep... I could tell where Y'shtola's plan was going the second she mentioned that they couldn't just wander around in the open.

hollow ice
quick owl
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Only I thought it'd be a poroggo worker, not a plain old frog.

vital timber
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Question about the Loporitts, ||what is the name of the 8-bit like song they play when they go humming? ||

late aurora
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Hummingway’s theme

grand olive
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So I noticed they separated the purple scrip crafter gear to each individual crafter.. This sounds like a grind, is it worth doing it or just sticking to hq normal stuff would suffice until they release better gear?

vital timber
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Oh.... I forgot they are called Hummingways in FFIV

granite nimbus
grand olive
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Ah thank you :D! Do you know if it's going to be any time soon that they release better gear or is this the best gear for a few months?

granite nimbus
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I think there's going to be better gear in a month or so?

grand olive
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Mm okay thank you :D! I will just craft the level 90 generic stuff !

late aurora
granite nimbus
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Also, I just find it so hilarious that ||Zenos' fight boner got him to fly to our aid at several million or billions of times the speed of light.||

quick owl
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Erenville claims to be an expert on "toads" when they were very clearly frogs... mewpaissa

granite nimbus
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Well, the spell is "Toad".

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But yeah, it's really weird how the story conflates the two.

novel furnace
granite nimbus
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Oh good then.

trail yarrow
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||Julius, honey, I don't give a shit about your home. For following your owner's decision, you will all die."|| Is what I want to say 😄

gloomy lake
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The Lancer in this quest chain is a real MVP.

trail yarrow
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pfft... plan failed kek

quick raptor
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hey where do you get the ||starbird|| minion?

granite nimbus
glossy hemlock
unreal delta
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... ||Ultima Thule...||

foggy coyote
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Okay is this place safe for spoilers or no?

mental tangle
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Nop

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Ok i log in afther 4k queue and afther 5mins i got kick out of the server cuz of los conection to server

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And im back at 4k people

hollow ice
wanton cloak
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i feel like a smooth brain trying to rap my head around these sage ws...

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the names just sound like gibberish

hollow ice
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~~just ignore the names ez

feral pike
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EX trial question: ||do you need everything above ilvl 560 to clear the dps check?||

late aurora
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Just dps harder lol

feral pike
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was doing the stone sky sea for ||zodiark ex|| and couldn't pass the dps check for the life of me. I'm fairly sure my rotation is correct

hollow ice
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I only finished the second ex and we didnt really have an issue with the enrage timer

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and most of us were at 560

late aurora
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SSS is a bad measurement tool

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!faq sss

lusty shadowBOT
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Why Stone, Sky, Sea is a bad metric to measure DPS
  1. SSS does not account for a job’s RDPS contribution via skills like Battle Voice
  2. SSS is a 3 minute burst window where you adjust your rotation to fit in that period and does not reflect a realistic raid scenario
  3. Different jobs will be in peaks and troughs of their burst windows
  4. Different jobs have different SSS dps requirements
  5. SSS is not accurately tuned for the jobs they are supposed to represent in most cases
  6. 3 minutes is short enough to be able to be affected by lucky DH Crit bursts
  7. Certain jobs gain dps by having additional party members like Dancer/Monk
feral pike
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ah thanks!

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k i think i'm just gonna go in and prog then

split forum
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2 hours later and I get to log in haha

gusty quiver
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I AM POGGING THE FUCK OUT RN - L86

late aurora
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Best part, there’s physics. So emote away

gusty quiver
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If I get attacked in this I'm fucked lol

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Oh my god I LOVE this expansion so much

next quarry
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just glam it over

split forum
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Just glam it on, you don’t actually have to wear it 🤣

gusty quiver
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Wait I dont have to like other things?

next quarry
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it doesnt matter if you wear it or not

gusty quiver
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Neat I'm still rocking it for like an hour

split forum
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I need this Chi fate to hurry up and spawn. I want to live in a little tv

next quarry
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mood

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ive just given up on chi until it actually spawns

split forum
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I’m trying to get it now while people are still actively working to get it spawning

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Ugh. Welp, that’s another half hour wait

late aurora
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My servers in the cooldown period

gusty quiver
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Alright yoshi-P, you can stop reading my diary, okay?

vital brook
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Im here doing ARR content, 300% echo

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Holy shit

gusty quiver
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All I ever wanted was to see ||unicorn handlers care for them like I care for horses||

late aurora
short edge
trail yarrow
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i shouldn't be crying for ||garleans|| wtf
thanks for the correction

trail yarrow
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uhhh... food

split forum
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Where does the lil ea minion drop from?

gusty quiver
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Yeah I cried like a bitch

vital brook
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I felt bad that they would rather ||die|| than get help

short edge
trail yarrow
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not surprised. i wanted to off him just a few quests ago

split forum
gusty quiver
jade relic
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||theyve been told their whole lives that eorzeans are horrifying brutal people who can control terrifying magic, it makes sense||

trail yarrow
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if not for the scions, Eorzea as a whole would do the same thing

vital brook
late aurora
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Pop pop, ||now I drop||

jade relic
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the power of propaganda

trail yarrow
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just look at sharlayan. they're doing what they have been taught ages ago.

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same bullshit, different leaders, imo

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and just two expansions ago...

gusty quiver
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THIS IGRL HAS WINGS

desert mulch
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friendship ended with Shadowbringers, Endwalker is my new favorite expansion

gusty quiver
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WHEN CAN WE BE WING GIRL?

late aurora
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Mmm, should we tell em?

trail yarrow
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wiat, oh shit... wtf

late aurora
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I’m sorry Cereza, but...birds aren’t real

vital brook
# gusty quiver THIS IGRL HAS WINGS

That reminds me, THIS IS ONLY FOR THOSE THAT FINISHED ENDWALKER
||On wings of hope, you rise up through the night higher, oh higher||
||Carrying our song, cradled fast within your arms||
||That its chorus might ring for all||

trail yarrow
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wtf is this ||play date|| xD

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ugh fandaniel

trail yarrow
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its the song from the trailer

late aurora
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It’s also in the achievements

pseudo mountain
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i have 46 more quests left X__X

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also the whole conclusion of the 84-85 quest line really annoyed the shit out of me

late aurora
sinful ore
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are there any tracking sites for the cooldown timer on the new fate ||omicron recall|| for the new mount ||level checker||?

supple saffron
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so that cutscene where someone knocks on our door, is it different depending on which scion name you select?

granite nimbus
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Yep!

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Just like the ShB role quests and Echoes of the Past.

supple saffron
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Ah, that's awesome. Gonna have to look up the other ones, then. I went with G'raha and I loved it.

plain sierra
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I'm getting the distinct impression something went wrong with the game loading and playing voices because... there've been too many where I'm certain they're missing. After clearing ||The Tower of Babil|| should the following scenes be voiced?

coarse meadow
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there is a known glitch where voices/audio does indeed cut out

plain sierra
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Nyaaaaaah! What can I do (short of logging out and back in because.. no)

coarse meadow
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i only got it to stop when uh... well... i restarted the client

plain sierra
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urgh. This sucks.

coarse meadow
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now im sure there might be a fix now for it, but thats my solution but its a bad one lol

plain sierra
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:C

bitter forum
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lol, one of the DoL delivery quests takes you to kugane and the sightseeing options are the bridge or the top of the tower

timber lichen
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o my fuckign god i replayed the cutscene with ||meteion right before the zenos fight in the inn just to check something and its telling me i cant skip it now||

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get me out of here

lilac crest
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Since they downscaled values does that mean E12s is still not noob friendly

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Or did they also downscale e12s boss 8A41FADD58B94845872F3396C9B02424

gusty quiver
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Everything is downscaled

lilac crest
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Cause I remember for o12s during shb they just skipped hello world by doing goodbye world and jumping and just rezzing dead

magic forge
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Is ||Hydlo's|| hairstyle accessible for now?

mellow nymph
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Damnit... damnit man just completed the first ??? Area...

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||man this is really thought provoking in a way, with all the existentialism questioning and all, it really does make you ponder if we end up just naturally drifting to our own demise in a way||

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||also going on a dungeon with Venat, Emet-Selch and Hythlodaeus was awesome||

mellow nymph
fierce wing
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idk what to do now that im at the end. shld i play new game+ agn

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or do raid prep

fluid basalt
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hope we get to meet ||Ancient Gaia in panda||

unreal delta
gusty quiver
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I know but it cute

unreal delta
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also we just got male viera. yall are way too demanding with races sometimes lmao

gusty quiver
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I dont like male Viera academySweat

fierce wing
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Time to be a fishing god. that's the true end game

cold jungle
lavish junco
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the shield .......

hollow ice
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Ive noticed that shields are stacking this expac

pseudo mountain
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||I now understand the kingdom hearts comparison to the xiv story... and my fucking god why am i not surprised... cause kingdom hearts was a collab of disney/ff characters in a square enix typical story plot twist of "good vs evil" fast forward to xiv..... bravo fucking vo... take my upvote|| DO NOT CLICK THAT SPOILER TAG UNLESS YOU BEAT THE STORY, SPOILED IT FOR YOURSELF OR MADE IT TO SECOND LAST AREA

raven canopy
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i really need new game + so bad

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||that venat scene when he sundered the ancient is so good||

trail yarrow
vital timber
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Me want emote of loporitts dancing, complete with 8-bit tune. 🙂

north silo
pseudo mountain
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@north silo||You're looking for the name "Organization 13"||

marsh stag
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So am I at or near the halfway point? I just killed ||the Zodiark.||

late aurora
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Still got 7 msq levels, so no

frigid oasis
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How do you get the ||Meteion|| minion?

dense jackal
marsh stag
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Wow I'm hyped.

late aurora
frigid oasis
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thanks

fluid basalt
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it's nice to have 3 dungeons again for Expert roulette

midnight agate
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has anyone done Eden's verse Savage on the new patch yet?

tired folio
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|| where is urianger and thancred post game?||

north silo
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Why do I feel like at some point at either 8.0 or 9.0 we’ll visit ||another planet totally divorced from hydaelyn/Ethierys due to the fact that they’ve brought in this concept of other planets in the universe via Meteion||

humble heron
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Personally i hope we visit square enix headquarters

north silo
sonic atlas
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dog line.

mint sail
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And one guy crafting

stiff pewter
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||Zenos is literally the Immortal Snail Meme but he'll always be too weak to kill you||

late aurora
rare saddle
sudden spruce
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I usually dont like ||time travel but shb and ew has been great so far, altho my pea brain needs time to process connections||

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Anyways i have to ask ||did our going back in time actually ended up giving venat an idea on what to do ehem creating hydaelyn, so its like a complete time loop ?||

cold jungle
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pretty much

brisk quail
sudden spruce
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Oh boy i dont know how to feel about everything, i think i need a few days to process everything about ew paissaowo

dense jackal
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got to the final trial, just waiting on my friends now. yeah I also need some time, wow what a journey

sudden spruce
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Man i still remember the ||scene with venat walking through all bloody mirroring our walk towards emet||

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With that being said, is there any streamer/ytuber who's into lore. Ill probably need a refresher of everything, my brain goo now.

coarse meadow
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Hey I just realized when we ||had to go back to the first to talk with ryne|| did our choices in that cutscene matter?

late aurora
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We have the Rommy Docs

cold jungle
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none of the 'meet the npcs' choices matter

coarse meadow
cold jungle
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in fact, none of the dialogue choices in this game matter

jade relic
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Some old wow lore guys have been moving over, I’d imagine we will have lore deep dive videos coming before too long

coarse meadow
late aurora
cold jungle
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not gameplay-wise

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they might change a line or two but that's it

sudden spruce
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The scene where you get different cutscene is when ||scion knock at the door and you call out a name, that has several different cutscenes depending who you pick||

late aurora
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Firmament, doman enclave, Chai-nuzz

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That whodunnit Make It Rain quest

errant mortar
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anyone know where you get the wind-up ||grebuloff|| from

glossy hemlock
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I kinda wanna know now

late aurora
errant mortar
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yeah thats why i asked

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description makes me think retainer ventures

sudden spruce
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God my brain still ||cant wrap around the fact that everything that has happened since arr is due to us tumbling through time haha ||

cold jungle
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since before arr and 1.0, actually

sudden spruce
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Oh yeahh that as well

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Brain hurts againgarudamorning facepalm

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||we are the reason post arr quests exists||

late aurora
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Nah still the allagans fault

jolly sierra
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Always the allagans fault

sudden spruce
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Ok i too shall now blame the allags

vale lake
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anyone think 90 pally has a shot at new savage/extreme content that was pre-endwalker unsoloable w/ highest ilvl stuff available now?

gentle oasis
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How good is SMN this patch and is it worth playing it instead of BLM?

late aurora
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Do you enjoy playing BLM?

gentle oasis
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yeah i do

late aurora
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Then give SMN a test run, won’t hurt

gentle oasis
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but i feel like BLM is kinda eh this patch compared to others esp in ex trials

hollow ice
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stuffs still balanced but smn got a lot easier, almost feels more like a phys range but with a few cast time abilities

north silo
brisk quail
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I mean then again they got more triple casts

marsh stag
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How come ||the moon has gravity like Earth?||

brisk quail
late aurora
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Because it’s not || a moon||

brisk quail
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That too

marsh stag
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Oh yeah that makes sense both points

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6.0

gentle oasis
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are the rotationg uide for summoners out yet?

late aurora
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Sorry wrong Mega

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Just a 2 letter difference that’s crazy

hollow ice
gentle oasis
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ah okay ^^

tribal quiver
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Ah finished Endwalker TH_blob_meltsob_sensemote

north silo
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So Endwalker is just about ||Fighting Meteions depression|| ok

hollow ice
north silo
jade relic
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she was a little busy

late aurora
lean ore
half phoenix
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So, for MNK... what is the purpose of that movement speed weaponskill with a longer recast (spacing on the name)

stiff charm
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greed'

cold jungle
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before high movement i'm guessing

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like you know the boss is transitioning or using a big attack you have to run from

north silo
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Not Yoshi P copying the || Menos Grande in bleach with THAT monster||

marsh osprey
sand yacht
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mood

tulip geyser
sand yacht
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removed, I thought this was a spoiler channel

weary rampart
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ok enough tearing up, time to learn EX fight

steady valve
north silo
steady valve
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1st trial ex mount

north silo
#

Oh it’s probably that Lynx I thought it was a dragon for some reason

late aurora
#

We had dragons last expansion

cold jungle
#

masked rose agrees: this is the height of fashion

bronze brook
#

quick question without spoilers : are the EW raids already available ( the non savage one )

north silo
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No

bronze brook
#

so they will be released together with the savage ones ?

late aurora
#

No, Savage is 2 weeks afterwards

north silo
#

Pretty sure 4 normal raids are released some point between 6.0-6.1 or on 6.1 and savage for those 4 follows in 6.2

gaunt star
#

finishing the msq has left me with an indescribable sense of existential dread, awe, and emptiness what the fuck

lean ore
#

copium

bronze brook
#

If there is one thing i am sad about in 6.0 ||it is that while in the past we never got to meet us as Azem . ||( obviously this can still change )

boreal drum
#

turn 4 phase 4 is still my bane

indigo shale
north silo
#

How do I get to Labrnythos from the rostra

bronze brook
#

left hallway

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go down elevator

vernal dust
#

Does anyone have the before and after enfwalker meme?

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Also, does anyone have the expectations vs reality for endwalker meme?

north silo
#

Ah ty

jolly sierra
gaunt star
#

Right?? like seldom do I find an experience so,,,, impactful to me irl I just can't over how good this expan was

cold jungle
boreal drum
#

yeah, but that requires me having to level up my BLU some more lol

bronze brook
#

@indigo shale i would disagree ,

||We are our own person regardless of who Azem was before getting sundered . we would be essentially 2 different people if we met him . ( though we would both share our love for adventure and jumping into volcanoes and other craziness .) meeting him would not undo us being our own person ||

cold jungle
#

it was possible in shadowbringers for bursty classes to save burst for last phase and just nuke her to hell

boreal drum
#

I could give a shot tomorrow on my SMN. It's more bursty than it was in ShB. If that fails, then I'll see if I can grab some random SAM to help out

half phoenix
indigo shale
half phoenix
#

So odds are we’ll never see them, much less in scenes where there’s dialogue

mortal barn
#

is it possible to have rain in a year-round snowy place like Garlemald? 😮

half phoenix
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Yes? During the warmer months

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Garlemald does get an actual summer, like northern Canada, Alaska, Greenland and Russia

bronze brook
#

And Freezing rain is a thing .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freezing_rain

Freezing rain is rain maintained at temperatures below freezing by the ambient air mass that causes freezing on contact with surfaces. Unlike a mixture of rain and snow or ice pellets, freezing rain is made entirely of liquid droplets. The raindrops become supercooled while passing through a sub-freezing layer of air hundreds of meters above th...

mortal barn
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the more you know

indigo shale
#

FF has ruined me, i read that that as "ambient aether" not "ambient air mass"

glossy hemlock
#

LOL

pulsar current
dark glade
#

Is the Tower of Babil one of those dungeon people keep saying should be done with trusts ?

indigo shale
#

well its up to you, no dungeon has to be done with trusts

bronze brook
#

wait until you are in the store calculating how many tomestones a box of cereal costs :p

dark glade
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I think they meant RP wise or something, like you would fill more immersed doing so idk

bronze brook
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my personal opinion is that i do every dungeon the first time with trusts as it makes the most logical sense .

indigo shale
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i think their is only one dungeon in EW where ||RP wise it can only be done trust wise as no way other adventurers not us can get there and no we cant use azem stone to summon people there was unless the azem stone is blessed/powered up we can not use it on a whim. otherwise story wise its the same as we either go in with the trust and the rest follow behind or we bring a band of adventurers and every one still follows behind, so all in all its just personal preference||

mortal barn
tulip geyser
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Freezing rain sucks hard to be in

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However, the trees look pretty after

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...if they dont break and stuff

gleaming bough
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bruh

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i wonder if the humming dialogue choice is exclusive to viera

sudden spruce
#

God i really wanted to ||meet azem and i thought what if SE used our current wol's appearance and did a code to randomized certain parts like eye/hair color and maybe face marking but nah that would be awkward|| maybe next expac we'll meet them but prob hooded or smthng

gleaming bough
#

must be weird reading this when your WoL is a viera

light sail
light sail
#

for some reason

sudden spruce
#

Gotta offset seeing ||a kid that turned getting insta squashed||

tulip geyser
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Fifth area stuff: ||I love how everyone in Elpis loves Azems quirky "familiar" and just dismiss the weirdness as "Just Azem things."||

gleaming bough
tulip geyser
glossy hemlock
bleak ravine
glossy hemlock
bleak ravine
#

Interesting.

gleaming bough
#

that moment when everyone just stay silent...

bronze brook
#

If anyone is still looking for this shot as a background ( MAJOR EW END SPOILERS )

sudden spruce
#

Everyday, more and more people are becoming ways

tulip geyser
#

Yeah its probably my favorite art

glossy hemlock
#

It’s pretty cute

sudden spruce
#

Damn i just hovered over the weather in the minimap and ||it says apocalypse, like yeah no shit||

glossy hemlock
sudden spruce
#

Seeing ||hythlo waving emet goodbye and seeing emet just suffer after is the true apocalypse|| the pain sad

indigo shale
#

||hmm i wonder, since those souls sacrificed by zodiark wonder a bit around mare lamentorum, i wonder if emet told hyth about all the bad shit he did and how hes the worst person to ever exist, but i guess not since hyth doenst mention it and seems suprised we talk about the recreation of amourot||

sudden spruce
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Yeah, hes too far in tempered to remember visiting his best bro probably

nocturne wharf
#

5/6 FATE zones done

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Damn, that's a mouthful.

novel forum
#

post EW MSQ ^ pretty screenshot. damn nvidia replay mucking it up

cinder spindle
#

do tanks share gear now?

rain onyx
#

they always have

cinder spindle
#

i mean war used to have CRIT>DET>SKS Prio is that the case now or no?

pallid girder
rain onyx
#

!faq ewbalance

lusty shadowBOT
#
What does Endwalker job balance look like now?

We cannot meaningfully discuss or draw major conclusions about Endwalker job balance for a number of reasons:

  1. The current sample size of recorded runs is too small to eliminate RNG. Even in the data we do have, there is too much variance in player skill, rotations, party composition, and killtime to be able to make any conclusions.

  2. The currently available gear is too limited/inconsistent, and future gear’s mainstat/substat distribution may affect balance.

  3. Patch 6.05 will likely hold extensive job changes, just like 5.05 did (see: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/b6083dbda4e9497698b64163ffc8cee52472b81a)

  4. While basic rotations have been theorycrafted and simulated, optimal rotations are dependent on encounter and party makeup. Fight design, job synergies, and yet-to-be-discovered niche optimizations are all things that can influence job balance.

  5. Preliminary data is often misinterpreted and spread, causing more harm than good.

Job balance is better left for approximately 1 month after Savage release, since there are more recorded runs, better gearing options + BiS sets, and fight designs are known.

Any current definite claims about job balance are at worst clickbait or pure speculation, and at best educated guesstimates that are subject to change as available information changes.

cinder spindle
#

i see i see

rain onyx
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too early to say if Det being buffed will have an impact

novel forum
rain onyx
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since the current BiS isn't really a BiS

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As there's no options and you can only take highest ilvl

cinder spindle
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||does this mean BW and LD gonna be fixed *copium||

rain onyx
#

Living Dead? What's broken about it?

gleaming bough
#

man puddingway, sound so cute

mortal barn
#

I don't think Garlemald has wind sprite though? ALl I see are icy Celureum ones

tulip geyser
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I didnt even know there could be those

sudden spruce
#

Need help whats the ||name of the song that plays when we playfight venat, like that specific version where the lyrics are clear||

thorny flax
#

I can't remember the name but the soundtrack is on YouTube. Just search for the fight and you will find it. But I highly recommend to not open YouTube until you are done with the MSQ. Spoilers everywhere

jolly sierra
tulip geyser
#

Lift is correct

sudden spruce
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Thank you!

jolly sierra
#

dont scroll down bcaApprovingNod spoilers in comments

mortal barn
#

night song in Garlemald sounds like broken radio

sudden spruce
#

God so many bangers in ew, oh i am done with ew btw no worries.

Theres not a single song i didnt like, but || venats song ||is just another level fresh and chill

jolly sierra
#

pls spoiler that

sudden spruce
#

Oh god sorry

mortal barn
#

if you spoil, plz kindly put them word between ||

indigo shale
#

i wish ||ultima thule could go back to the broken music after spending 6 hours farming fates i have come to despise the final version of the music|| zone 6 spoiler

tulip geyser
#

||It would be nice to pick||

sudden spruce
#

Even the broken radio sound is good, ||lofi beats to garlemald at||

thorny flax
#

Endwalker ending spoiler: ||I can't believe that Zenos is now one of my favorite characters in this game. Not Emet-Selch level but I like him as much as the scions. All the scenes at the end were freaking perfection pogianger ||

indigo shale
sudden spruce
#

||Ew=existential wondering||

jolly sierra
sudden spruce
#

That too sad

thorny flax
sudden spruce
#

I thought ||shb was good, but ew was better at making me pure sad||

jolly sierra
#

Yeah for sure, || Ew hit so many emotional chords, hit me where it hurt most and really made me reflect on myself ||

sudden spruce
#

Ew be like ||how many tesleens can we fit in one thavnair scene||

thorny flax
#

||shb was insanely well written in terms of characters. EW was insanely well written in terms of philosophies. And both together created the ultimate FFXIV experience||

river hound
#

i've been playing FF since this afternoon for at least 6 hours, progged ||Hydaelyn EX|| like 20 times. joined my FC Prog group to the other EX trial...instantly game crash DirectX error. what the fuck

jolly sierra
#

But at the same time I can see why || Ew is much more hit or miss with people ||

indigo shale
#

||im glad they made the garleans behave how you would expect, they could have easily went the route of garleans accepting our help with no questions asked, being all nice and all as though they havent went through a century of mass propaganda from an ascian ||

ornate wharf
north silo
#

yOu WoNt EvEr HaVe To Do RoUlEtTeS dUrInG MSQ I’m litersllly doing roulettes to get to 89

thorny flax
#

||Zenos broke the 4th wall and I absolutely loved it. Especially if you are a tryhard in mmorpg's||

ornate wharf
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||I'd say Venat broke the 4th wall more than anything, that scene in Elpis when the camera focuses on her as she asks you "Has your journey been good?" feels as if the developer asks the player directly that and it's glorious, it hit me hard ||

jolly sierra
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Love this channel, it reminds me of all the little things that hit me really hard but I don't remember because I was very tired when I did msq

gleaming bough
#

oh shit

pulsar current
ornate wharf
tulip geyser
jolly sierra
#

But also yeah I finished it on day 3 of EA after playing for 19 hours straight

ornate wharf
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haha I didn't go THAT hard, but yeah...by the end it was hard to let go of my mouse and keyboard 😂

hearty ravine
#

How hard is ex trial 2 compared to 1?

regal lantern
thorny flax
#

Endwalker ending spoiler:

Cool stuff that I noticed while playing:

||The "answer" song from ARR refers to what happened in Elpis

During the big cutscene with Venat, Emet and Hythlodaeus are both chads and Emet acts like nothing is wrong even though it's right before him sacrificing his own life to merge with Zodiark together with the other unsundered

The answer in Hydaelyns fight is about the answer if your journey was great

during the final trial the scions are doing the 1.0 praying scene

probably 10k metaphoric and philosophic stuff in almost every scene with meteion

Meteion = reference to the og FFXIV WoL name "Meteor"||

north silo
#

Everyone seems surprised that an expansion ending the story that started with 1.0 makes several references to 1.0

thorny flax
#

||garlemald story is also heavily inspired by the soviet union which is interesting as well||

indigo shale
#

even 2.0 made many references to 1.0, HW referenced 1.0, im sure SB and ShB did too

indigo shale
ornate wharf
#

||I noticed a lot of biblical and philosophical themes all throughout the expansion, like the words Venat uses at the end of the Amaurot scene, being a direct link to how God threw Adam and Eve out of paradise in the Bible by "taking their wings away" and saying that "from now on man shall walk", I am not religious but that was an incredible moment, especially how Elpis felt from A to Z as if it was meant as a "garden of Eden" in itself||

north silo
#

Kinda sad it seems that SE ditched the whole “main scenario” raid thing after 2.0

indigo shale
weary temple
#

My new favorite song in the game. ❤️ ||https://youtu.be/RX94kGugTzw ||

So, I just finished the Endwalker expansion, and all I can say is I love this song--it captures the entire expansion's message.

Song: Close in the Distance
Original: #FINALFANTASYXIV Endwalker OST
Lyrics and Analysis from: Reddit u/Starlight_Sonet - https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/rckfws/close_in_the_distance_an_analysis/

Screenshots...

▶ Play video
indigo shale
#

||and so can alex, due to ShB, its just none of them had to wrap up something as big as dalamud before||

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this game needs an mp3 player like FF15, where you can just walk around in game to any orchestration roll

jolly sierra
#

Yeah good thing YouTube exists KEKW

gleaming bough
indigo shale
#

anything allagan is always important For msq, their would be no MSQ if it werent for allag

jolly sierra
#

Tbh I do wish they made all the normal raids required for msq

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Except bahamut I guess I'd understand if they kept that optional

gleaming bough
#

nah they just need to decrease bahamut difficulty

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or at least turn 9 difficultty

indigo shale
#

if we go to meracyidya there is bound to be an allagan dungeon, as we know they did some fucked up stuff there

gleaming bough
#

man , what new shit they are going for the next expac

sudden spruce
#

Beat the allags up

jolly sierra
#

Tbh I want them to explore something completely new

indigo shale
#

we'd have to leave the star for that, we cant escape allagans on our current star

thorny flax
#

I hope they move away from the cosmic stuff for the next 2 expansions

jolly sierra
#

I kinda want another x.0 story where we dont deal with the allagans at all

indigo shale
#

would have to be a new game or star completely, but then again we went to the first and 13th and there was still allagan stuff

jolly sierra
#

I love them but after || the part they "played" in the msq I'm a little burnt out on them ||

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OH YEAH THE 13TH

indigo shale
#

remember xande made a pact with the cloud of darkness

jolly sierra
#

Right ok if it's the 13th ignore everything I said

thorny flax
#

I'd actually love another isekai. I usually hate isekai's because they are overused nowadays but shadowbringers did a really great job in terms of world building

gaunt star
#

Why don't we go to literally every place emet mentioned when he was summoned?

indigo shale
#

well its more that we'd still be dealing with allagan repercussions some people may not like that

gaunt star
#

We've been to FFXIV Japan. FFXIV India. FFXIV Greece. It's time to go to FFXIV Australia. We will go to the southern continent

ornate wharf
indigo shale
#

everything we have dealt with in the game has mostly been allagan, so it may be wearing thin on people

jolly sierra
#

god yes please

thorny flax
#

good thing about the next story is that Ishikawa is gonna write almost all of it and she might have more influence now because she's working closer together with Oda compared to the past

indigo shale
#

nope, shes stepping from main writing main expansions

jolly sierra
#

actually i would love if 7.0 was ||graha|| and wol's big adventure

ornate wharf
#

yesss 😄

gaunt star
#

Yes

thorny flax
#

yes

indigo shale
#

its going to be different writers for all next expansions

jolly sierra
#

i will cry if it is

ornate wharf
#

there we go, we have a consensus

gaunt star
#

WoL's bizarre adventure

jolly sierra
#

i love ||graha|| so fucking much

ornate wharf
#

his voice actor is really good as well

thorny flax
#

Raha is objectively the best character in the entire game because he prefers wendy's over mcdonalds

gaunt star
#

G'raha eating a fucking burger

indigo shale
#

wouldnt that make him the worst character

wild crane
#

Borger

indigo shale
#

wendys would be an ascian if it was personified

gaunt star
#

I love Alisae but when she refused to eat the pickle I lost some small respect

thorny flax
#

the hangout scenes were so good btw

jolly sierra
#

honestly i love the scions all equally

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except yshtola she's a little bit higher

indigo shale
#

urianger best scion

jolly sierra
#

but i love all of them so so so so so much

tulip geyser
gaunt star
#

Do you think Urianger likes carrots?

thorny flax
#

oh another fun fact:
If you play the game in english and you are done with the msq check all your new titles

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and look at the descriptions

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they are lyrics

jolly sierra
#

do u have a screenshot? i cant log in rn

thorny flax
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can't login either. But it's bascially the "hydaelyn" part of footfalls

jolly sierra
#

gotcha bcaApprovingNod

indigo shale
#

ah shit got kicked out of the queue after 2 hours, and now instead of being 2k in place now im 6k

fluid basalt
#

but those lyrics... where's the full song?

#

success is suffering

thorny flax
#

if we are lucky we get more servers in spring

#

my company ordered hardware in june and we get it in march 2022

indigo shale
#

to play EW on EA i had to wake up at 3am to get a full day of playing msq, otherwise no way i was getting in

lean lintel
#

Didn't they get rid of a bunch of severs a couple years ago and merged

jolly sierra
lean lintel
#

I remember more servers at lunch

indigo shale
inner swan
fluid basalt
#

the one in the achievements

thorny flax
#

cryptomining is a huge problem as well

inner swan
#

Like sure we can get to ||ultima thule|| but where is streaming or YouTube for footfalls

fluid basalt
#

cryptomining affecting FFXIV queues?

jolly sierra
indigo shale
fluid basalt
#

need the full song... not this short part of footfalls

inner swan
#

Alphinaud was on trial in Ishgard for screenshotting NFTs

thorny flax
indigo shale
#

so it lead to semi conductors being in short of supply especially due to the pandemic as well, because silicon production slowed down and hasnt recovered much

inner swan
#

The scalpers fight back to become exactly what they exploit

#

I’m sure Square will be able to get their hands on server equipment probably before february

thorny flax
#

Imagine being a scalper and FFXIV fan and now you have to pay for your bs by having to wait in the queue haha

indigo shale
#

and companies like nvidia, amd and intel never helped as they didnt put caps on how many of 1 item people could buy despite not having enough stock

jolly sierra
#

yeah but tbh the next time they need this much server space is 7.0 so

lean lintel
#

Not like they can just buy more servers from serverville

inner swan
#

I think I read something saying that was one of the main goals (server stability and new servers maybe)? I Don’t speak Japanese so I wouldn’t go picking the translation out of an interview or wherever that info came from originally, my boyfriend mentioned it

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Regardless I’m excited for whatever they throw tbh Endwalker was just too good

fluid basalt
#

those companies wouldn't put a cap anyway, since more sales is better for them

inner swan
#

Moreso a resource issue but it’s just dependent company to company

fluid basalt
#

7.0 may not be as big since it's not the conclusion of a decade-long story... maybe

thorny flax
#

XIV community deserves an award btw (actually they got one haha ). Usually people go on metacritic and downvote the shit out of new games that have problems like new world. Meanwhile FFXIV has a 9/10 average user score on steam and metacritic because they rate the product and not the service that is tied to the product

jolly sierra
#

that really depends on 6.55

inner swan
#

It’d be the parallel of ARR I think or yeah dependent on 6.55

jolly sierra
#

well, 6.1-6.55. it'll def still be pretty big

indigo shale
thorny flax
#

yeah I realized this while writing it

lean lintel
#

Because we bitch but we understand

#

2002 errors piss me off but I know its just something I need to deal with

thorny flax
#

I got 2002ed right now but I got back into my queue place because I was fast enough and did the 5Head "2 clients" strat

jolly sierra
#

The what

indigo shale
#

open 2 clients, log in but cant slect char, if one errors you can queue on 2nd client straight away, no risk of losing queue place

thorny flax
#

open 2 clients and if you get 2002ed just swap immediately to the other one

lean lintel
#

Ohhh that's a game changer for me

jolly sierra
#

Can you log in twice on the same account wtf

indigo shale
#

ofc unless you dont realise you got errored like me and get pushed back 4k places

fluid basalt
#

probably not a good idea to attempt things that will jeopardize your queue

lean lintel
#

Well it won't because you just don't have to wait for it to crash and relaunch

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You have another one ready to go once you get 2002

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Make sense

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You are not "logging in" with the 2nd clients until the 1st one errors and crashes to desk top

jolly sierra
#

Oh I see

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I assume you mean the game itself though not the launcher

undone zodiac
#

What's the fastest way to farm the new tomestones?

lean lintel
#

Yeah two clients on the character select screen

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One fails you have another one ready to go

#

I'm gonna try that from now on

jolly sierra
north silo
#

I like how ||Livia and Rhiathyn make a return in Altiascopee||

indigo shale
jolly sierra
undone zodiac
jolly sierra
#

They're all about the same for me tbh

#

I just queue for the whichever one I like more at the time

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|| but it's normally smileton ||

undone zodiac
#

aye dope. When is the reset time for roulettes again?

magic forge
#

in about an hour and 2 mins

vital timber
#

Is it so wrong that I crave that Loporrits be playable?

undone zodiac
#

no, I want them to

magic forge
jolly sierra
vital timber
#

To me, they look less like rabbits and more like hamsters or chinchillas.

jolly sierra
#

So yeah an hour from now

granite nimbus
jolly sierra
brazen trout
#

tertium ||doesnt play the radio song anymore?|| D:

jolly sierra
#

|| she's on both my phone wallpapers ||

#

Yknow what I'll stop there I've already fulfilled my gushing over endwalker quota for today

indigo shale
#

wonder,|| will we see fourchenault in his non forum attire again, like what he wore when he came to eorzea||

quiet robin
#

One of my fc mates says thier magic dps role quest is gone? anyone else having the bug?

gaunt star
jolly sierra
main umbra
#

huh thats actually a steal money wise if that incldues accessories.

#

and ur lazy to level crafters.

bronze brook
#

i have said it before the expansion launched but now , after EW i feel even stronger about where 7.0 should go :

||After 6.0 having fought against complete despair and Nihilistic hopelessness and conquer it , 7.0 should go as the complete expression of that statement of hope :

A story of laughter , of almost whimsical and dare i say , comedic nature .

It does not need to go all happy go lucky but After EW , The world deserves a time of peace . ||

granite nimbus
#

So what you're saying is, ||we need an entire expansion devoted to Hildibrand, got it.||

bronze brook
#

Yes

mint notch
#

Does Bard feel better to play since Shadowbringers?

indigo shale
#

||fucking the dancing omicron side mission in ultima thule, such a comedic side mission for a sad area|| end zone spoiler

bronze brook
#

But seriously the game already has given us a good setup for it :

||The scions have disbanded and gone their separate ways leaving it now up to the companies and now that we no longer have Summoning problems ( for the most part)

for the first time , we , the WOL have no goal or objective to pursue , leaving us free to go do whatever we want . ||

slender siren
#

These threads man

bronze brook
#

I am getting old Gamefaqs vibes from that image

#

Back then it was Sephiroth vs L block .

indigo shale
#

speaking of the L block, wtf

#

L block is urianger confirmed

marsh osprey
next quarry
#

™️

bleak comet
#

||I just had my first group disband ever lol. In the hydaelyn fight lol||

distant elk
#

Ending spoiler: || It is "Flow" that plays after you defeat Meteion and she wants to be your friend, right? Anyone got a link to that version of it, rather than the "band" version which has a more rock sound to it || ?

north silo
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||RIP Hydaelyn 12,000 years ago- 2021|| 😔

quick widget
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Is there a page that has all the new unlockable stuff? Minions, mounts, hairstyles, etc

next quarry
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@quick widget

quick widget
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Thanks

next quarry
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OH THIS IS THE FUCKING WIVRE HOW IS THIS WORTH 4K FATES

north silo
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Ugly rhino mount omg

indigo shale
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probably looks better in game

brazen trout
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whats the bgm called that plays in tertium?

north silo
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Ugh I really want Porxie King but it’s Japan only

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😔

simple axle
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any idea if they're gonna make A TEST OF YOUR REFLEXES extreme
like memoria

next quarry
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nah

marsh osprey
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endwalker gave us a test of patience and dread

indigo shale
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could potentially, ||it seems a very cool fight that would be a shame to be only able to do once with all its mechanics, and if they do, better hope we can get his scythe from it||

marsh osprey
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next expansion will have test of passion and lust

next quarry
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dating simulator expansion

thorny flax
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Social Links in FFXIV pls

north silo
thorny flax
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I love how people simp for Zenos now lmao

next quarry
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They have been

indigo shale
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like memoria mis ex was just the WoL pining a hard fight, so they could do similar for other things

gusty quiver
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Zenos STILL boring villain

thorny flax
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he's not a villain he's my friend 🙂

north silo
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He’s my friend that does bad stuff and acts emo

thorny flax
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I love how I called that ||Zenos will turn into Vegeta 2.0||

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it fits his character perfectly

indigo shale
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cant believe the ||funny man made zenos have to contemplate stuff and reflect because he stole what he was going to do||

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it was completely out of order of what i was expecting

thorny flax
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||He's not dead btw. He will come back for sure. because of all these theories regarding his avatar||

indigo shale
thorny flax
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they purposely left out some explanations. Ishikawa isn't the writer that forgets things, when the entire expansion has almost no plot holes

north silo
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Hot

indigo shale
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ishikawa isnt writing more expansions after this, she said before in an interview that shes giving the reigns to other writers so who knows what we will get

thorny flax
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which is good. More writers at SE deserve to shine

indigo shale
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yeah, more chances for new villains and areas, different takes on everything

thorny flax
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I hope Ishikawa takes over Kingdom Hearts because I'm a diehard KH fan COPIUM

indigo shale
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||as good as EW was its layout was too similar to ShB, so i think it stood out less in that regard||

thorny flax
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or at least the ff mainline series

north silo
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Ff16 when

indigo shale
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i think shes co writing 16 with Kazutoyo Maehiro, from at least what i heard, but that might just be a rumour

thorny flax
# indigo shale ||as good as EW was its layout was too similar to ShB, so i think it stood out l...

||yeah I think they should no longer rely on the outlines of shadowbringers. Some people were already madge that Endwalker wasn't about characters and their personal issues and that it was more about a philosophy and abstract concepts like the meaning of life|| ||If SE continues to stick to the same concepts it will harm XIV overall because then people are used to only getting a certain thing and will be mad everytime SE tries something new||

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turning things into "traditions" is really bad.

indigo shale
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||like it went 2 areas, split off, main area with huge conflict propelling the story, even some story beats felt like carbon copies, very like the start off ShB||

thorny flax
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yep

north silo
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I mean it’s pretty obvious from ShB that the next expansion was gonna be something existential

indigo shale
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yeah but that has nothing to do with the layout

thorny flax
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I think the funniest thing for me was the final dungeon

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||"Hey if this is like shb the 3rd map of the dungeon will be something big and impressive"||

viscid monolith
indigo shale
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but none of them felt as glaring as in issue, something about how it was done in ShB and EW just felt weird to me at least

viscid monolith
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Did they? Stormblood and HW did it twice each.

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Or maybe HW did it once and SB did it twice

indigo shale
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idk, maybe its just recency bias of ShB, but it didnt feel like HW and SB was complete carbon copies of each other in execution of the start

scenic vigil
# thorny flax ||"Hey if this is like shb the 3rd map of the dungeon will be something big and ...

not to say that you guys aren't onto something in general here, but this specific point? ||should it not be big and impressive? basically the final map you're gonna roam around in and look around? (since usually after this is trial and a bunch of cutscenes) What else should it be if not big and impressive? should it be wimpy and underwhelming? should it be... i wanted to ask multiple "Should it be"s here but i cant even think of any. I think avoiding tradition for it's own sake so as to not pidgeonhole your own writing under consumers' expectations is valid and something they should consider, but I don't think it's applicable to everything so just trying to force something else in certain points just for the sake of changing leads to suggestions like this where the alternative isn't even clear ||

viscid monolith
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Oh they weren't copies. They both just do the "Go to a zone and explore half and come back later after the plot" thing.

marsh osprey
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god finally the grind is over

drowsy cosmos
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This storys some Habbo Hotel type gameplay fr

short edge
thorny flax
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I really like SGE in higher levels. the only thing that annoys me is the timer with the resource because I always FOMO

short edge
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SGE feels so easy lol, don’t know how to explain it.

blazing edge
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just got to 20% in first EW EX trial :D

short edge
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Noice man!

thorny flax
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the trials are so much harder this expansion

north silo
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Nah trial 2 is easy

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The first one tho….. hard af

indigo shale
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i think tthe trials felt harder because no one knows how to play the new jobs

viscid monolith
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What are people struggling with?

thorny flax
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from what I have seen it looked harder than innocence but funny how the 2nd trial is the easier one again like in shb haha

indigo shale
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like trial one was hard because the sage players wouldnt heal after the raid wide

viscid monolith
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I'm afraid to even go back in trial roulette. I don't feel like wiping 5 times on a normal mode.

static niche
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wait 89 ex is easier than 83?

viscid monolith
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I can't even pinpoint exactly what kills people. I just look up at the party list and both healers are dead.

indigo shale
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took 12-13 attempts for first trial normal across 3 different parties because of Sage, it took till we got a scholar and WHM to be able to do it

viscid monolith
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Just spam heals what are they even doing

static niche
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the first trial took me 2 wipes to clear on same party

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it was a bit complicated but easy is all i know

viscid monolith
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If nothing else, spamming heals will get you through every Ahk Morn. Of course if you use your CDs it'll be even easier.

static niche
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89 trial wiped me once on trust cuz i got both healers Killed LMAO

indigo shale
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like maybe i got really unlucky with parties, but barely any revives or heals would go out, nothing has ever been more tense than staying at 1 health for 10-15 seconds after the raidwide

viscid monolith
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Ya Eliot healers not healing isn't normal or good. Those were awful healers.

static niche
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i hope ||venat come back, i need more of her Sadge ||

indigo shale
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||nah she never coming back, we have no way of calling people from the aetherial sea on a whim, since we used up the remaining power of the azem crystal which i still hate btw, the azem crystal is the worst thing theyve done in this game, as soon it was introduced they removed any possibility of danger coming to the scions||

urban phoenix
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queue position 6k

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yeah im not playing today it seems

static niche
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you came too late :p sshoulda came 2 hours ago

orchid dagger
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I finished MSQ. collapses This has been the worst most emotional warrrior-of-light week of my life.

urban phoenix
static niche
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xd

urban phoenix
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we are here lets huddle and comfort 😄

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of often did you weep?

orchid dagger
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damn good expansion though. I think I still prefer Shadowbringers, on a personal level, but this was not the disappointment I'd been braced for it to be.

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more earlier on in the 6th zone. once i hit the last dungeon, it was just a mix of exhiliration, sadness, dread, and joy.

static niche
orchid dagger
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i was moved to tears several times, but not reducing to a sobbing weeping wreck like 5.3 did.

urban phoenix
orchid dagger
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i cried bunches before that, though.

indigo shale
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suprisingly garlemald bought me to emotion, i guess im more partial to more real life settings, also ||i guess elidibus in the ocular, made me a bit sad||

urban phoenix
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||there is this sidequest you get from a child helping her find a carbuncle puppet. she named it "moony" (moenbryda) who motivated her to explore the world when she grows bigger. she is still waiting for her to come back||

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this just brought me to tears right away

orchid dagger
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i should explain better, nothing about the last two hours made me a weeping wreck, but everything from the 5th dungeon was an emotional rollercoaster of biblical proporitions. Less a sprint of emotional outbursts, and more a long distance marathon that was a constant drain

orchid dagger
static niche
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i was actually worried in 85 dungeon ||cuz of the implication from vrtra and the last boss, glad to see i was wrong.||

urban phoenix
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yeah that one hurt really really bad. it took that sidequest out of a whime when i reached sharlayan. had to take a break like 15 minutes into the expansion....

orchid dagger
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i didn't think anything could top the moment when ||Estinien comes out of nowhere to save Matsuya and the child||. I was wrong.

orchid dagger
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||My simp showing up to give me a "what, why haven't you killed this boss yet?" pep talk. ||

static niche
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lol

urban phoenix
compact wedge
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||no one believes in you more than zenos||

orchid dagger
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Found this on reddit. Too true.

orchid dagger
urban phoenix
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zenos remins a bit of "never gonna give youu up" XD

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in a weird morbid way

orchid dagger
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Zenos is way better villain than people give him credit for. ||While part of me feels like that was a perfect end to his story, the fact that he's basically an Ascian now means that even if he did die there, that's a minor inconvenience, at best. ||

next quarry
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||Mom said its my turn with the WoL||

static niche
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agreed, which is why ||i think he'll come back somehow due to how dense the d...whatever it is called is there||

indigo shale
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||his voidsent will most likely eat his soul, he be dead dead||

gray orchid
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With the question ||Zenos poses to you at the end it made me realise that he's basically an analogy for the player, just wanting to fight bigger and stronger things, to meet his match. Aka savage and ultimates||

desert mulch
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Zenos be like ||Mom said it's my turn on the WoL||

desert mulch
orchid dagger
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||I agree. I feel like in 2 or 3 expansiosn time, he's going to show up in a Big Damn Heroes moment, high on the power of emotion, help us kill the big bad, and have a Round 3, this time as someone who's found their reason, at long last. Yes, Zenos is an analogy for the typical MMO endgame player. Chasing item levels, ever higher.||

indigo shale
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||like now he died, the pact will be broken, so the voidsent will do voidsent things||

static niche
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you know how lahabrea talks all this and that about hydaelyn in ARR? well after the revelation of EW make me feel a burning hatred for that meme

desert mulch
indigo shale
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well tbf at that point lahabrea was fucking insane, even elidibus is like wtf to lahabrea

desert mulch
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"Like a parasite, she must be burned out if the planet is to recover|

indigo shale
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||tbf he werent completely wrong though||

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||we did have to kill hydaelyn to be able to deafeat that what is plaguing the star||

gray orchid
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Kinda funny because I was just like "aw bugger off zenos" every time he turned up ||until that end fight which I actually enjoyed more than the trial before it, somehow that made it worth it, him being so annoying. Especially the face your lalafell makes when you pick option one to his question and his reaction to it||

desert mulch
orchid dagger
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||I wish i could find this post. Someone did a... kinda creepypasta, talking about how they had this friend who joined the game, their guild power leveled them, got them all the gear. and they mastered the game. the pvp. the ultimates. every fight, every piece of loot they wanted. They got. They were World First. Unbeatable. The game had no more challenge. No more joy. It was just a meaningless grind, full of people who at best, only held them back, if they had any effect on them at all. And then closed with "That's Zenos." Wish I could find itagain. ||

gray orchid
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I just want a single player spin off game now where you play as Azem in a time of peace or minor conflict during the ancient's era.

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Adventuring with Hythlodaeus and Emet

indigo shale
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i want a spin off game based in the allagan era, because the era just sounds insane with all that happened

desert mulch
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i like how they summed up as the allagans are apparently responsible for everything wrong in the world

indigo shale
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yeah well with emet selch having a hand in it, it was still a bit ascian lead

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but yeah as long as we are on the current star, everything can be tracked back to allagans pretty much

orchid dagger
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Emet didn't control it the way he did Garlemald. He just kinda spurred its creation.

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||that scene, during the end credits, where the Scions walk past the Ancient Scoobie Gang. That got a tear. ||

indigo shale
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he still had quite a hand, probably more an advisor role than direct lead since ||amon or xande didnt seem to give a shit he was standing around talking about raising amon to the seat of fandan||

static niche
orchid dagger
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||and venat going "Jinkies!" ||

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||Don't forget to give Hades an ascot. ||

weary rampart
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where the tome merchant for the new tomestone of aphorism

static niche
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raz

orchid dagger
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Raz-At-Han is the new Eulmore/Idyllshire

indigo shale
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yeah but not as good as either unfortunately, the layout is very inconvinient

next quarry
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you dont really need to go anywhere else in the city

indigo shale
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i like to run around endgame hubs, so for me at least im not a fan

orchid dagger
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i need to start gearing up and leveling atl jobs (and crafting) but damn the queues... not sure i want to sit in 2 hour queues after work just to do a bit of grinding.

viscid monolith
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Do important home activities while you wait

languid slate
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^it really do be like that tho

orchid dagger
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XIV is the best FF game I've played in ages. Though VII-Remake did come close. They have to finish it though, before I 'll give it a final ranking.

weary rampart
orchid dagger
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So... just had a thought. ||Both Elidibus (back at the tower) and Venat said their souls would cease to be after their last act(s). Yet we clearly see Elidibus in the final post-game cutscene. So apparently, he was wrong. And if he was wrong, she could have been too. ||

indigo shale
orchid dagger
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||Is it? I thought so at first, but he makes a comment like he's in an afterlife.||

indigo shale
orchid dagger
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||I don't remember him saying that at all. ||

static niche
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me either but it is what it is

humble heron
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||he did indeed say he met us ||

orchid dagger
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||i want to race/name change to a Loporitt named "NoFuckingWay". ||

orchid dagger
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||how the hell did you find that so fast?! Clearly i need to hit up NG+ sooner rather than later. ||

gaunt star
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i feel like the 89 trial is 10x harder than the 90 trial. i die so many times when i get it in queue

viscid monolith
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Elliot took screenshots

indigo shale
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no, i got it from someones stream

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i had already watched the persons streams, so i rememebered where it was

orchid dagger
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I'm planning on doing a complete recording of a 100% New Game Plus run of the entire game, then editing it into a kind of chronicle so i can have a record of XIV even should the servers die one day.

raven canopy
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can anyone here tell me what this means by ||emet||

orchid dagger
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Maybe.

raven canopy
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err how do you upload image in spoiler

orchid dagger
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there shoudl be a "Modify" option. use it, and then you can check it as a spoiler

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i just learned that about an hour ago myself

raven canopy
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||so when u summon back emet and hythlodeaus, emet talk about things we could explote then talk about azem's duty then he says this||

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||is he azem before venat???||

tawny gazelle
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He was there with them while they were doing it

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Different people

orchid dagger
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||Ah. THAT. he's implying he's gone and done many of the things he's teasing us with. As it to say "I did all these things. You aren't going to let me show up the great wanderer, Azem, are you?" At least that's how I took it. ||

indigo shale
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||i dont think he was azem, emet is the sort of guy to return to the star after his time on the convocation, he wouldnt retire and then join back||

orchid dagger
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either of their interpretations also works.

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It's kept vague for a reason.

raven canopy
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i see i see

tawny gazelle
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Or he did it later after everything happened to pay respects to his friend

orchid dagger
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That was how I took.

raven canopy
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||ah yes, it was pretty heavily implied that azem, emet and hythlodeaus are friends right||

tawny gazelle
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I remember seeing something about how they also adventured together

orchid dagger
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||He specifically mentions the civiliations on other shards, and there were no shards when Azem was around. ||

tawny gazelle
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True

raven canopy
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||yeah make sense, he probably just taunting us||

tawny gazelle
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Egging on moreso

raven canopy
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yeah something like a friendly taunt tho egging is more appropriate

orchid dagger
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||Yeah, i'd call it more teasing. It's also a 4th wall breaking way of the devs to tell us all the ideas they've got on the whiteboard for future expansions. To reassure us that just becuse this epic is over, doesn't mean the story (ie game) is. ||

raven canopy
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ah, man playing this expansion pack makes me want to replay the whole game again, it has been a very satisfying journey ever since i pick the game up in ARR

indigo shale
orchid dagger
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||The only part I objected to was the "breaking up" of the Scions. I mean, you're all going... to keep doing what you were doing. Just... back in the shadows. Until you're needed. In which case you'll quickly be outed as not being disbanded. So... there's no point to this gesture other than adding another thematic layer to the "end of an era" thing||

indigo shale
raven canopy
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||i think they do it so the nation in eorzea don't rely on them||

orchid dagger
indigo shale
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||the scions mission has been fulfilled completely they have no MO anymore||

tidal mauve
humble heron
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@orchid dagger you can download OBS, its pretty easy to use it as a recording software

raven canopy
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i also plan to stream it just so i have the archive easily accessible for myself

orchid dagger
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does it work better than one of the built in options from Windows or Nvidia?

raven canopy
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so no need to take space in my PC and i can easily delete the file after

orchid dagger
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but stream VODs get wiped after 2 months don' they?

indigo shale
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man 4 hour in queue and still only got to position 700

orchid dagger
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Yeah i don't think i'm goign to be playing much until next weekend....

raven canopy
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oh even the one on youtube?

orchid dagger
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oh i don't know about YT.

humble heron
orchid dagger
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Hmm, okay.

mint sail
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Final boss spoilers ||random hindsight: the gravitas Endsinger had to me was borked after I heard the "big fat tacos" in the bgm||

tulip geyser
raven canopy
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||why must it be the heart of sabik||

indigo shale
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||and now theyll also have garlean technology to aid the GC of E so theyll also be able to better themselves in other ways like central heating||

raven canopy
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yeah, ||they should walked their own path from now on||

mint sail
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||but I'm also a sucker for the Shinryu theme, so||

compact wedge
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||what the fuck even is the heart of sabik||

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||i get it's black auracite in other translations but what the fuck is a black auracite||

mint sail
indigo shale
compact wedge
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i hope so

humble heron
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Its where yoko taro came from

indigo shale
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koji did say we will find out what the heart of sabik is at some point, so panda is a better time than any

raven canopy
quasi ether
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|| I guess next expac will focus on exploration, adventure and the 12 gods. ||

indigo shale
raven canopy
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||well it seems to be that we are not the warrior of light anymore with hydelyn's final task completed and promise fulfilled, now as azem we should travel the world||

indigo shale
humble heron
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||we should stay home and be a family man||

mint sail
raven canopy
tidal mauve
scenic vigil
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Does anyone have a picture of what (spoiler: final zone rare fate, I think?) ||Chi|| actually looks like? ||I haven't seen it yet, and don't feel incentivized to seek the thing, but I'm wondering if it's that thing from the benchmark trailer that looked like an alternate form of Omega||

humble heron
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||it is, yes||

indigo shale
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||oooh exciting, currently waiting for the thing to spawn, have no idea how long it takes after the 2 fates||

next quarry
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iirc 2 hours after the p2

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if p1 respawns back to waiting

indigo shale
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fun

weary rampart
#

wait the apho tome dont have weekly limit?

orchid dagger
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they don't?

late aurora
#

Those limited tomes come later

weary rampart
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i dont see the limit indicator on my tome list

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namazuconcern no wonder ppl keep hunting for S rank

orchid dagger
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yeah really. i need to figure out gearing now.

hollow ice
fast mango
#

the music on the moon is so peaceful

orchid dagger
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huh that was easy

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except for the whole EX trial part. im sure that'll crush my nuts in a vice.

gaunt star
#

finishing the level 87 msq: ||so, i guess the song answers has had hidden meaning that only now makes sense. tears in the club, man||

orchid dagger
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||made all the more impressive by the fact that the song was written with no specific meaning in mind. they found a way to tie it in after the fact.||

raven canopy
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i really need the music for this expansion

mortal barn
hollow sapphire
#

So, how do I use Soulsow (Reaper ability)? Do I only use it before battle or is it feasible to use it mid fight?

north silo
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It’s just used during downtime

haughty crater
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Heyyy I finally finished the MSQ!

#

There are just the 2 dungeons and the 2 EX fights for now right?
Really hard to find a good source of info

humble heron
#

Yes

late aurora
#

Next week raids, 2 weeks after raid Savage

static niche
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tfw i'm so dehyped i'm rewatching sb->ew

robust crescent
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||had a guy who kept dying hydaelyn's dawn mechanic properly... every single time... without fail just stopped ressing him, i'm sorry to him but i'm not throwing everyone elses run for his enjoyment|| level ~89 spoilers?

static niche
#

wait

robust crescent
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I don't have the CDs on sage to keep him up every case of dawn, i'm sorry to him.

static niche
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kept not dying, and you won't res him? how does that even work

robust crescent
#

🙂

static niche
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better 😛

robust crescent
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would think it be common sense if you read the rest of it what I really meant, but if grand standing is fun be my guest

static niche
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||what's dawn again?||

robust crescent
#

green red blue

static niche
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that can't kill you tho, ||unless he has lot of vulns?||

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||or is this ex?||

robust crescent
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when I said every single one I meant he failed every single one

#

that wasn't hyperbolic, that was literal.

static niche
#

o_e

earnest sedge
robust crescent
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the other healer didn't even revive him anymore lmao

earnest sedge
#

Tome body

static niche
#

i want ex 2 weps
they looks SOOO nice

#

||wonder what aura it'll have next expansion.||

earnest sedge
#

If B
Current "BiS" its a mix of tome and ex1 righr side

static niche
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depending on what stats it provide yeah bis will vary for each job

earnest sedge
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Since DET is better than DH rn

static niche
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really? O_o

#

so it's now crit -> det -> dh?

ornate shale
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The Balance discord (for RPR) has is DET=DH>Crit, but also says you can do Crit>DH=DET, but you have to make a choice on one or the other. They also pointed out that Crit is generally weaker at the start of an expac, but testing still being done?

static niche
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well you need crit for monk no matter what so xd

blazing edge
#

i love broken xivanalysis

ornate shale
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Yeah. I haven't looked into stats for any other job yet. I focused on RPR haha.

static niche
#

monk is mass fun now

robust crescent
#

I still have no idea how to min-max sage

blazing edge
#

dont farm toxikon in single target

ornate shale
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My monk is still level 33 because i didn't give it a chance before. 😦

robust crescent