retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[hardy wind]

So, how long till we see ||zenos again. And do you think he will still have a fight boner for us? ||

[marsh osprey]

Also war has no dot

[wet summit]

||probably a few patches or next expansion, and yes he probably still will||

[mellow nymph]

Hey yall

[gaunt star]

I love how using Azem name in ||Elpis || is a free get out of jail card like no one question you at all

[lunar hound]

||honestly I hope he stays dead||

[wet summit]

||I mean you gotta hand it to the dude, he traveled to the end of the universe and saved our ass just to fight us to the death after||

[mellow nymph]

Can i ask some gameplay questions?

[bleak comet]

||Ima be honest. The cutscene that plays after Ktisis Hyperboreia- Half of it was incredibly fucking stupid. Im not even gonna hold back on it lol||

[coarse meadow]

yeahhhh thats the real bitch of the mount lol

[hardy wind]

||He didn't die though, just kinda layed there talking||

[lunar hound]

||prtetty sure we heard him take his last breath||

[next quarry]

Go ahead

[mellow nymph]

So i have 2

[wet summit]

||I don't think zenos is dead, but idk how the fuck he'll get back to our planet without a ship or turning back into shinryu||

[urban phoenix]

well im pretty sure hes dead. at the end of the world, no ressources no food. and no aether to transform into a dragon either

[marsh osprey]

||zenos cant leave because my lala broke his kneecaps||

[carmine basin]

||journal plainly state he died||

[urban phoenix]

would be a pretty big plotarmor if he survives there

[mellow nymph]

1 - How NIN doing on the overall (in spite of me playing i feel my whole rotation is out of whack now, level 84 currently)

[cosmic zodiac]

Quest Log implies || he's dead ||

[wet summit]

i mean yeah
||we saw him die/his body which is kinda a dead givaway that he didn't survive||

[iron birch]

but what if

[urban phoenix]

many nins complain atm....

[mellow nymph]

2 - is it just me or there is less room for error now? We seems to die really fast now due to stat squish

[urban phoenix]

eh as long yoship gives me a reasonable explanation....i wouldnt mind

[marsh osprey]

We have shit ilevel in new content

[next quarry]

Stuff just hits harder

[mellow nymph]

Sadge, i really liked it in 5.5, maybe it was nerfed cause its too good?

[urban phoenix]

dunno about balance stuff. i dont play nin because i get cramps in the fingers from the mudra

[marsh osprey]

Also all healers except whm got insane healing abilities to heal a lot of damage

[wet summit]

||I mean we all said emet was obviously dead and yet they brought him back TWICE for the msq in endwalker||

[mellow nymph]

No probs, im mostly trying to get an overall idea

[urban phoenix]

not twice...once

[marsh osprey]

||we can pretty much summon souls at our side||

[indigo shale]

||he was dead still it was just his soul from the aetherial sea||

[mellow nymph]

Oh noes, poor WHM, what about Lilybell then?

[marsh osprey]

180sec cd, its soooo garbage

[wet summit]

||we could've revived him, he just didn't want to be revived so he fucked off||

[marsh osprey]

Ast earthly star is straight better than whm as a job, literally compare what whm has to it

[mellow nymph]

Oh yeah now that i see 180 secs is real bad for current metagame where 90 secs should be the far you can take in my opinion, specially when all else is 60 secs too

[cosmic zodiac]

[marsh osprey]

If lilybell would be weaker and 60 seconds, then it would be really good

[vague forum]

wait... position in queue 2.7k.
Do I.... have a chance to to get back into the game?

[wet summit]

you do, give it an hour

[mellow nymph]

Damn im sad for WHM Mains (like Spofie)

[marsh osprey]

But as of now i see no reason to play whm when ast exists

[mellow nymph]

Macrocosmos is that good then?

[vague forum]

I'm not whm main, but are whm really lacking in burst heals?

[neon wing]

an hour?
I am trying to get through 1500 queue for 1.5 hours, still not done

[wet summit]

sage has kinda killed my motivation to play other healers due to how fun it is

[marsh osprey]

Whm only has burst heal and no good ogcds

[vague forum]

I was under the impression that they got really good burst heals.... in their gcd

[indigo shale]

i hope sage players know they can heal, i dont think anything has been more tense than being on 1 hp for 20 seconds for the 83 trial when raidwide happens

[wet summit]

imean i can forgive sage players for being shit

its a very complex job and there's a lot to juggle, people haven't had much practice yet

[mellow nymph]

SGE is in a weird spot for me, its fun but it definitely cant save someone from a real big oh shit moment in my opinion.

[vague forum]

So yeah, they're not bad for the job. They just aren't as fluid with regards to dps + healing

[marsh osprey]

Medica 2 is not a good heal when ast needs little to no gcd heals and neither do the other jobs. And if other jobs have to gcd they get really good value out of it like for example asts horoscope

[mellow nymph]

I heard Scholar is like OP as all fuck.

[wet summit]

lol

[mellow nymph]

Not even memeing, its just what i heard and that is why im asking.

[marsh osprey]

Scholar got decent fixes but its very clunky compared to sage

[indigo shale]

i have yet to see anyone not play sage yet in any duty

[vague forum]

I wanna try sage out

[neon wing]

every msq dungeon was sage + reaper

[indigo shale]

suprisingly not many reapers

[vague forum]

But chances are, my main heal will (once again) be whm

[quick raptor]

yeah i was a reaper in the first trial and all the other dpses were other jobs

[mellow nymph]

I mean even i who had SCH as a Main Healer is surprised at how fun SGE, even more than RPR

[marsh osprey]

Sage has 3 ogcd aoe heals and they can all be pressed immediately, also a 600 potency aoe gcd heal that can be buffed to 900 potency and does damage too

[wet summit]

i will finally use my free fantasia after like 4 years
the arc is over i feel justified doing it now

[vague forum]

what to?

[wet summit]

au ra to femroe

[indigo shale]

feels like a lot more dancers this expansion

[vague forum]

giga based

[coarse meadow]

coming from a tank, how is reaper? fun or is it just like you gotta be god to be good at him lol

[marsh osprey]

Also if sage single target shields he gets dps gcds to make up for it

[mellow nymph]

No kidding im like seeing one every group of players i find in the open

[neon wing]

I used 3 fansatia so far, 1 of them I could've saved but I had no idea what aesthetician can do

[vague forum]

From the bit I played rpr, really easy to get into

[next quarry]

Reaper at 80+ is super fun and engaging, from 70-80 it can be boring

[vague forum]

Now the question is, what is the disparity between really good reapers and reapers who are doing aight.

[mellow nymph]

I gotta level my RPR... But levelling is Boring XD

[wet summit]

the aesthetician being able to change limbal rings disturbs me

[next quarry]

lmao

[marsh osprey]

They are just using permanent magic contact lenses

[mellow nymph]

Those who actually remember to use enhanced Gibbet/gallows

[indigo shale]

ah its fine slap on a movie or something and bang your head against bozja for a couple of hours

[next quarry]

People who remember gibbet/gallows have positionals

[mellow nymph]

Also this

[wet summit]

i kinda hate the reaper positionals

[vague forum]

Sheesh, that's such a low bar

[next quarry]

They're easy

[mellow nymph]

Oh yeah i was gonna talk about this, i want to try new Monk, what you guys think about it?

[vague forum]

rpr positionals are honestly easy as fuck. I had more trouble with drg positionals

[mortal barn]

I look at the EW trust panel, seeing Einstein replacing Ryne, and think that they won't add new trust member. 7 members of Trust seem very ideal to fill 8-man if SE will ever bother 🤔

[next quarry]

Reaper is a simple job

[wet summit]

also is starbird a guaranteed dungeon drop or is it random
I got it my first run and most of my friends did too

[marsh osprey]

Random

[vague forum]

Having to move from flank to rear and rear to flank within one ogcd triggers me

[next quarry]

Starbird?

[mellow nymph]

I mean it fits the usual 8 Men RPG Party

[pallid fox]

It's random from the last story dungeon.

[wet summit]

oh wow, got lucky then

[vague forum]

having to do it constantly, triggers me more

[next quarry]

Trails into reverie with their 51 optional party members

[hollow ice]

I finally looked at my scholar bar for this expansion and dang is it chonky rn

[marsh osprey]

I got hippo minion and anima

[vague forum]

oh.... nvm, queue is stuck at 2.5k I'll definitely get 2002'd before I get back in

[mellow nymph]

Is it as chonky as a DRK bar tough? XD

[wet summit]

i need a new mouse

one of my buttons is so worn out that macros on my third hotbar are breaking

[hazy apex]

I'm gonna really try and get the relic done for this expac

[indigo shale]

where get anima minion? is it from the dungeon or elsewhere

[marsh osprey]

I hope they listened to the relic feedback from shb, people were not happy

[mellow nymph]

Im thinking of going back to RDM for the rest of this expac

[vague forum]

I'm fine with relic being a grind

[wet summit]

Feel like fantasias should allow you to change name too but eh, I don't follow canon naming conventions anyway

don't feel like making my femroe name a randomly generated series of letters

[indigo shale]

ShB relic was by far the best relic grind

[vague forum]

what I really hate is how it was tied to an optional alliance raid where you have to wait for like 30+ minutes to even get in

[mellow nymph]

You gonna change out of Femroe?

[hollow ice]

its not actually sch has more abilities

[marsh osprey]

Shb was by far the worst looking relics

[vague forum]

during prime time.....

[wet summit]

changing to a femroe
not changing my au ra name over it

[indigo shale]

idk i quite like my dnc ShB relic

[vague forum]

please SE, make return to ivalice a mandatory alliance raid

[mellow nymph]

Yeah my SCH hotbar really full right now too

[next quarry]

I...skipped those cutscenes

[mellow nymph]

I see reminds me when i changed my Fem roe to Femiqo

[wet summit]

||where the actual fuck was gaia during the entire msq||

[next quarry]

||With ryne doing the festival||

[vague forum]

I remember that time between finishing 5.55 last month and getting to EW where I switch from viera to femroe to fem aura to hyur to fem miqo and now male viera

[indigo shale]

||we only had a brief foray to the first, its not like everyone was ready to expect us to say hi||

[hollow ice]

||banished to raid hell from which only one being Alpha is powerful enough to escape||

[mellow nymph]

Hum im gonna begin levelling RDM today then, sadly i have no glamour for it so ill just use the level 70 AF then ill switch to level 90 AF later

[wet summit]

i have exclusively used rdm in eureka and bozja

[next quarry]

||I wish omega came with us to UT||

[wet summit]

the sigma dreamscape

[indigo shale]

||im sure omega would love to see a recreation of his planet with his people all ruined||

[next quarry]

That's exactly why I wish he came

[mint sail]

I have reached the final zone

[mellow nymph]

I dont even care if people say RDM is kinda Braindead or auto mode, i think it just fits my do all nature

[mint sail]

how long more until the very definitely final end

[hollow ice]

||technically midgardsormr did XD||

[indigo shale]

||imagine omega giving into despair the horror it would create, especially after what the fuck it did in o12s||

[marsh osprey]

game force logged me out oh shit

[vague forum]

rip

[next quarry]

Freddy being benned

[vague forum]

oh wait.... nvm

[marsh osprey]

didnt do shit for like 2 hours, still had work to do, but prelogged in to avoid queue

maybe they patched something in

[vague forum]

oh damn, you're in light

well, chaos is still suffering so I can't imagine light doing any better

[marsh osprey]

[vague forum]

20 minutes now, went from 2.7k to 2.3k

If I don't make it past the 2002 wipe mechanic, you ain't making it either

[marsh osprey]

100% they patched more afk prevention measures in

[vague forum]

Well yeah, they keep working on anti afk measures

[marsh osprey]

sadly this wont fix anything

[vague forum]

To make sure that people don't stay when they're not playing

[marsh osprey]

people already cant play

[static niche]

Oh god now that i think about it
||with zenos gone for good. That could suggests a ultimate content for him proper||

[vague forum]

The frustrating thing is that the actual solution is not obtainable

They can't make new servers cuz the parts necessary are in extremely high demand (shortage)

[vague forum]

||Zenos ultimate where he goes from weeb samurai to shinryu to reaper sounds godly||

[indigo shale]

||yes, zenos, zenos but dragon, zenos but elidibus, zenos but random soldier, zenos with sword, zenos reaper, zenos but dragon again, zenos||

[static niche]

Exactly

[fluid basalt]

so.... did they play the "song of hope" version from the full trailer anywhere in the game? i can't seem to recall if there was a full version anywhere ingame

[marsh osprey]

all i can say to that square enix corporate bullshit probably didnt approve budgets before and now they cant get shit when they actually need it

[vague forum]

song of hope?

[fluid basalt]

the old sharlayan portion in the full trailer

[next quarry]

Not individually

[vague forum]

Oh

[marsh osprey]

its in ||final boss 2nd phase||

[next quarry]

It's part of the extended version of footfalls

[indigo shale]

well even with the budget they wouldnt be able to get it anyway

[vague forum]

Well it's not its full theme but..... ||endsinger phase 2 has it remixed with maker's ruin||

[fluid basalt]

footfalls exclusive huh

[vague forum]

covid fucked us so hard.... we can't buy new tech unless we overspend, we can't have new servers in our games, heck even some games developed in 2020 had to cut some corners

[lucid copper]

So are there beast tribe quests?

[next quarry]

Not yet

[vague forum]

a bit under 20 minutes and I'm still in the 2k

Guess that's all she wrote for me today, I'll continue my dungeon grinding tomorrow

[limber kite]

||anyone else love how in this expansion everyone treats us like a badass hero? I mean it's pretty much it is how suppose to be but finally most people realize you don't mess with a champion who defeated tons of primals||

[coarse meadow]

we could blow up their skulls just by looking at them at this point :^)

[vague forum]

I miss the days when we were nobody adventurers running errands for a couple a gil

[coarse meadow]

"pray return to the waking sands"

[vague forum]

But I do appreciate being this godlike entity with no equal in the world wide world, ||save for 1 guy||

[limber kite]

I prefer to be a badass, pretty much it feels like being an isekai protagonist

[next quarry]

||we were about to die ourselves after fighting Zenos||

[limber kite]

But if I'm honest i do wish the next expansion we just vanished or the apocalypse happens and we found ourselves lost where nobody knows anything of what happened like another continent that didn't have nothing to do with the ||civil war||

[limber kite]

||but we didn't||

[vague forum]

Imagine if we did die and everyone was forced to fantasia next xpac

[next quarry]

Lmao

Change eye color, done

[vague forum]

Or better yet, ||you die and start exploring the "underworld" with emet-selch and crew||

[indigo shale]

||its very convinient that the teleporter landed only in range of us also, imagine the scions reaction if a dead zenos teleported back on the ship, wondering how the fuck he got there||

[coarse meadow]

what does the atherial lens do i see that in like every crafting thing ever now

[mortal barn]

even tonberry doesn't have this number recently. Where are you?

[limber kite]

I mean I would get really upset and mad if we died, i have invested A LOT of time and gil with my waifu and costume sets (which i need more)

[next quarry]

I'm going to revoke your FFXIV privileges

[marsh osprey]

light at 4 pm

[indigo shale]

||if we werent pretty much dead after that fight we could have stole zenos scythe, it looks very cool||

[next quarry]

||Why is zenos' avatar so creepy||

[indigo shale]

||we dont know, yoshi-p bought a lot of attention to it before, specifically about the avatar, so maybe we find out in a flashback at some point||

[limber kite]

If i'm honest is not just the hype but reaper really feels so good to play as, i will main him for the rest of the game

[vocal bear]

||With Ryne nolonger with us, how does Thancred get his ammunition? Or does he not get ammunition anymore?||

[nocturne wharf]

||Shtola crafts them for him. Check the end of 5.3 cutscene (with Alisaie being hilariously bored)||

[hardy wind]

I played him for about an hour, and hated him. Feels really boring.

[hollow ice]

I think its interesting their 1,2,3 is basically their least used portion of their rotation

[limber kite]

It feels the opposite to me, i have all jobs to level 70+ and reaper is the one i've enjoyed the most

[limber kite]

This is what I love of reaper as well

[dull bough]

Morning o/. I have a super dumb DoL question--Do you need to be on-level to turn in collectables? (eg: 83 to turn in an 83 collectable)

[limber kite]

However I leveled up Sage to 75 and played it for some hours and to be honest I didn't like it, it felt underpowered to me

[hollow ice]

as a healer it felt really strong to me

gotta remember that you have TBN

[limber kite]

Yeah i know it isn't underpowered but it wasn't my thing, i love the CD and stacks mechanics but I prefer either WHM or SCH

I love but at the same time hate the stacks mechanic on healer, if you used them all you only have like 2 spells to heal and i know it's just to manage your time but i'm not up to that

[latent mural]

holy fuck updates are a gold mine for gathering

everything sells so damn good

[limber kite]

I hate the fact that i'm focusing on DoM/DoW rather than DoL since i want gil yo buy a house but is kinda pointless if you haven't completed most areas

[latent mural]

you'll get around to it eventually

[glossy hemlock]

Wait wtf who said earlier that Nero was the second hottest Garlean when MAXIMA exists????

[limber kite]

Hooefully it won't be too late since i really want a house haha

[limber kite]

Zeno is the hottest imo #nohomo

[glossy hemlock]

[limber kite]

Is there any news about a new 24 raid? For me it's the most enjoyable content

[next quarry]

No new news

[indigo shale]

we know its called myths of the realm, and likely about the 12, but nothing else

[red talon]

wat

[next quarry]

For the love of Hydaelyn, please tell us what's under fucking mor dhona

[latent mural]

below you

[tired crown]

There is a crater with a hole in it nearby.

[red talon]

AHH

[latent mural]

yea

[gaunt star]

Man getting the currents on the moon is hell "Oh it's on the other side of this ledge, I'll just jump down and get it wait no I cant because there's a small hole"

[latent mural]

id help if asked and if we were on the same datacenter

[gaunt star]

It's a pretty zone but I'll never understand why we can't just jump off the ledges

[latent mural]

hole

[gaunt star]

Stoopid hole

[latent mural]

beeg hole

[gaunt star]

Let us jump over the hole

[latent mural]

[tired crown]

Yeah, the way the locations are separated is a little frustrating. Can't get to that one on that side unless I run all the way around to that side, use a teleporter and then run all the way back around.

[latent mural]

that's exactly what happened to me

[gaunt star]

I've been flying randoms around to the currents so they dont have to experience the hell

[latent mural]

i wanna di that too lol

[grave bison]

I feel like that zone was designed with some kind of low gravity mechanic in mind that would let you jump across those chasms, or else moon dog was supposed to be a more fundamental way of moving around -it just feels really inconvenient until you unlock flying, like weirdly so

[latent mural]

nahh

[gaunt star]

Tbh a low gravity mechanic would be cool

Super jump

[mint sail]

Wouldn't work, I think

[tired crown]

Yeah, that would have been cool. Super jump across the chasms.

[marsh osprey]

whats all the gear options for 6.0 besides ex

[mint sail]

The game treats you as still "on the ground" in some fashion

Otherwise when a DRG elusive jumps off a ledge they would not immediately clip to the floor below

[grave bison]

that's it afaik - class gear + dungeon accessories -> tier 1 tomestone gear -> ex weapons and accessories

[unborn umbra]

|| hermes is literally an emotional fucking baby jfc also a fucking simp || lvl 88 msq (pls dont say anything beyond what ik)

[tired crown]

Slow fall Elusive Jumping to my death would have been hilariously funny.

[mint sail]

also may I post final area screenies

[grave bison]

it would have been really funny if they'd done a low gravity thing, and had estinien jump off the moon at some point and need to be rescued

[next quarry]

The humor in ew was great regardless now that you mention it

Hildi comes in 6.1 right

[grave bison]

did you do the moon bunny sidequest with the one that made ||carrot cards, like the ones urianger has ;_;||?

[tired crown]

||Completely agree. Reminded me of a toxic ex of mine. "I'm the only one that could ever be this sad."||

[next quarry]

I don't remember that but I need to

[short edge]

The official ffxiv posted this May 20th of this year

[unborn umbra]

💀

[short edge]

||so much foreshadowing||

[unborn umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/beating-up-beating-up-lilo-fight-beat-up-beat-down-gif-19482217

[mellow nymph]

So i gotta comment on a certain part on Quests lvl 84 chain and damn... XD

||the whole fashion and clothing part reminds me of how much we love Glamour and how a certain youtuber called the Fashionista would probably be very pissed XD||

[grave bison]

that guitar is a real thing they made and I need it but it's a japan-only limited edition and costs $4500 ;_;

[dire trench]

What kind of name is this, lol

[mellow nymph]

A Hellsguard Name.

[sharp bear]

avoiding spoilers, a question for folks who have finished EW: is there at any point some sort of explanations why The Twelve don't show up at all, since the ARR opening cinematic? :)

[late aurora]

Lavish them with crystals

[tired crown]

There aren't any explanations, but there is some foreshadowing that we will be learning about it in the future.

[sharp bear]

just as well :)

[grave bison]

it seems like it's going to come up soon

[hoary frost]

They will if you use crystals and summon them like primordials .

[sharp bear]

thanks :>

[mellow nymph]

||is this related to Myths of The Realm?||

[sharp bear]

been pestering my mind ever since :)

[next quarry]

Yes

[hoary frost]

More seriously though, Louisoix was the only one to know and manage to cast such a spell as a summoning of the twelve.

[mellow nymph]

I see now, man im hyped for that one

[paper copper]

Someone find where i can change my old craft token ?

[glossy hemlock]

Reventant’s Toll

[unborn ferry]

M'yes... I expected this reaction from him.

[mint sail]

What was your next /say tho

[unborn ferry]

Nothing quite as original.

[mint sail]

slightly more original than me, I just pulled the Star Wars quote

[carmine basin]

LMAO

[mint sail]

I'm leaving off on this and coming back tomorrow

gotta be fresh and ready for the finale

[mystic imp]

||If I'm understanding this correctly, do you mean to tell me Zenos had a hand in getting us out alive?||

[wet crown]

[hoary frost]

||Not necessarily, Meteion did say that we would get back to our ship if we wished for it. Maybe that's what it was.||

[humble heron]

It was ||JOHN CENA||

[neon wing]

||which quest is this? is this the last MSQ dialogue or some sidequest?||

[mystic imp]

||perhaps. Uriangers last line kind of makes it somewhat ambiguous: "thine ardent wish...or anothers fervent prayer" So either the WoL or some other third party.||

[mystic imp]

||It's the last MSQ dialogue in the Rising Stones||

[neon wing]

I think I glossed over his lines, shame on me

[shell sand]

Last trial, boss on 2% HP and the game disconnected. Good god! Someone please

[wild crane]

Oof

[neon wing]

queue (Savage)

[late aurora]

Just reconnect

[shell sand]

https://tenor.com/view/shootme-supergirl-gif-8909452

[hearty ravine]

Man the stat squish probably not gonna hold up long in the end. I see some level 90 tank with 70k+HP already and we still havent got our savage raid

[shell sand]

Oh wow GENIUS idea thank you!

[humble heron]

Youll probably still get completion, mshari

[late aurora]

Welcome

[wild crane]

Quickly relog if you can

[shell sand]

I really hope so. I just wanted to finish it with the group cause we learned it together :(

[craggy pawn]

i just wanna ask if anyone knows the music that plays after the part with the refined adamantine

[shell sand]

You can't "quickly relog" what world you living in where theres no queue? Please do invite me over

[neon wing]

wow had 2 stat squishes already

the second one was also accompanied by lvl and ilvl squish

[wild crane]

I assumed it wasn't peak time yet so I thought you would have a chance to reconnect

[shell sand]

I wish :( 1400 in queue though better than 5k

[wild crane]

Damn.

Everytime I come home from work, it's always between 1k~5k besides that one day on Early Access launch

[shell sand]

Same but I took 3 weeks off so I always log in at morning

40 in queue only

[neon wing]

yeah, if you plan to play after work in peak hours, you better employ some form of remote access in advance

[shell sand]

Is it even possible with this game?

[wild crane]

I plan to just sleep in once I get home and play when peak hours are over before work one of these days.

[neon wing]

you do remove access to your PC, and you can do whatever you want on it

clicking a few buttons to enter the queue shouldn't be a problem

and by the time you arrive home, it's ripe and ready to go

[shell sand]

Of course but what can I use? Because using the steam mobile app alone won't be enough

[neon wing]

I usually used teamviewer for these things

[shell sand]

Unless you use some kind of screen mirroring app

[shell sand]

Holy shit I forgot this exists

[neon wing]

there's probably a bunch of similar apps

[shell sand]

I use Parsec

[vague forum]

Now that I think about.... ||Zenos deadass just said "Our battle will be legendary"||

[hollow ice]

yup yup he did

[lean ore]

😔

[vague forum]

welcome to chaos

[lean ore]

to be fair at this time yday it was 6k so im not complaining, besides how slowly it logs me in xd

[vague forum]

I got 2002'd at 2.7k so stay on your toes

[lean ore]

see my name only had 7 error 2002s since early access xd

5 minites still 3214 tho /kms

[vague forum]

meanwhile I decided that maybe I should spend my time bear- seek- seek- lest-

[inner ice]

lmfao

[urban phoenix]

well it was matching to my au ra

dragons hear through their horns too so yeah. i wonder what they say when ur a hyur or roe thou 😄

[kind lark]

||Is that what Au ra get?||

[vague forum]

same thing with my viera

[humble heron]

They just say ur like a familiar but nothing extra

[urban phoenix]

kay

[short edge]

And viera

[inner ice]

i am a male viera

[urban phoenix]

then aura/miqo&viera/hroth is way cuter than the "normies"

[humble heron]

I take offense to that

[urban phoenix]

dully noted :;P

[vague forum]

tmw roes are considered normies :v

[urban phoenix]

just big hyurs

[inner ice]

all of the people in || the unsundered world have custom eyes right ||

[carmine basin]

||Au ra get scales of beasts iirc||

[urban phoenix]

yes well i think so

[rain badger]

End of MSQ spoiler:

||https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/rbmq9z/lv_86_story_already_love_this_character_cant_wait/|| this is why you don't post on social media til you finish the story lol

[gaunt star]

||that venat solo fight sure is great if only we can also switch jobs in the middle of a fight ||

[brisk quail]

Them: makes the post
Them 8 hours later: oh fuck

[humble heron]

You have to admit it is extremely on brand for ||him to be a asshat just because||

[urban phoenix]

@tight latch

[marsh osprey]

i hope when the game goes into its final days that we get a duty ||where you can switch between all jobs||

[hollow ice]

yooooo rpr spoiler ||the granpa reaper tried to merc emet||

[urban phoenix]

hu?

he tried to what?

[hollow ice]

so ||the grandfather of the reaper mentor who was also a reaper tried to assasinate emet||

[elder marsh]

holy fuck this blew ShB out of the waters

[urban phoenix]

ah yes.

[gaunt star]

that would be really cool ||a fight that require the player to switch jobs||tho I doubt that would happen since there will always be that one person that only stick to one job and that's it

[kind lark]

More than likely the game engine would die on the spot.

[humble heron]

I mean you can switch inside an instance already, the game engine can definitely handle it

[urban phoenix]

9 fates left!

then i have my scroll

[kind lark]

What instance?

[humble heron]

Bozja and eureka

As long as you arent in combat you can switch jobs willy nilly

[short edge]

Same with pvp. You can switch jobs when you get into the match in anything but rival wings I believe

[kind lark]

Ok so could the game handle us changing jobs in CE/fate/duty in the future?

[humble heron]

It can already handle it it just prevents you for likely balance reasons atm

Like so you cant get low as dps, switch to white mage and bene yourself, and then go back to dps

[kind lark]

ok

[humble heron]

||theres a reason you dont normally run trials with trusts is all i will say kek||

[short edge]

||yeah worked surprisingly well||

[wanton seal]

||You know I just realized... On the title card, the sphere that the moon is replaced with may very well be Ultima Thule||

[elder marsh]

||never did it cuz i thought it would take away the fun of learning a fight||

[astral trout]

I really love ending with ||Zenos, he reveals what was WoL's motivation all along and with him alone away from our responsibility as WoL we can selfishly endulge ourselves with fight||

[late aurora]

But he’s wrong

[urban phoenix]

not really. we are literally what ardbert described

adventurers helping people in need and the scope grew bigger and bigger

[hardy wind]

||I feel like zenos detracted from the ending. It felt forced and while it was the end of his arc it felt unneeded. Like everything that he did post SB could have been done without him. He really was the one thing I didn't like about EW||

[astral trout]

||He really didn't have a big role which I liked as he wasn't really a complex villain, I was glad that he wasn't the center of attention but his motivation/arc needed to be finished. I almost thought that he was forgotten at the end lol||

[hardy wind]

||That's what I was trying to say. His arc really could have been completed in SB when we beat him the first time without detracting from the story. Everything past that was unneeded.||

[elder marsh]

||i feel like zenos is kinda like...a mix of a villain and an anti-hero. i dunno im not sure||

[astral trout]

||He's the guy who doesn't care about the plot and just rushes content lol||

[somber forge]

||I feel like SE realized that zenos was pretty bland character but it was kinda to late to set him aside so instead they focused more on fandaniel and he was somewhere there in the background.||

[hardy wind]

I worry about how they are going to incorperate ||Meteion|| moving forward. I feel like ||She's always going to be a tie to the past and the ancients, despite that story having a satisfying ending. ||

[coarse meadow]

anyone know where/when Chi spawns?

[humble heron]

@hardy wind my guy ||i think shes never even going to come up again ever||

[hardy wind]

||So she just survives, flies away as a bird and just gets forgotten about? Someone literally capable of destroying all life in the universe? ||

[humble heron]

||she was only that strong when combined with her sisters||

[astral trout]

||I don't think her story is going to end, no story can truly and now and I'm fine with that||

||Yeah, I don't think she's going to turn villain again||

[rain badger]

end of msq spoiler ||so zenos isn't dead right||

wonder if ||he'll show up in 6,1||

[astral trout]

||I think he is finally dead lol||

[urban phoenix]

questlogs says hes pretty much ded

[hardy wind]

||Journal says he ded. ||

[rain badger]

Ah I don't read the journal, ||Cause the cut scene just had him laying there||

[hardy wind]

TBH though, I could see him coming back.

[urban phoenix]

well he is alone no food now way home....pretty much axed dont you think?

[rain badger]

didn't the ||Lorropitz in post msq say that the ragnarok is connected to ultima thule now||

[wanton seal]

||Meteion never really had intentions of destroying the world in the first place. She's pretty much just the victim of Hermes' flawed question, her sisters being sent across the universe and gathered negative emotions from trying to acquire a satisfactory answer. Don't think she'll be doing anything malicious anymore.||

[rain badger]

we're getting beast tribes in 6.1?

[urban phoenix]

yeah shes just a sad kid weve come to hug and cheer up

[rain badger]

idk if the ||the elephants or the bunnies are going to be the crafter beast tribe, I can see either of thetm being it||

[wanton seal]

On the other hand, there's certainly a load of plot points i'm looking forward to regarding ||Dynamis||

[rain badger]

I'm guessing that the ||omega weapon planet people are going to be gatherer beast tribe tho||

[gaunt star]

So ||Zenos did good thing|| or something?

[rain badger]

have you beaten msq yet?

[astral trout]

He literally didn't care, as if he did good thing or not ||NO||

[kind lark]

||They did Zenos and Fandaniel in EW well||

[urban phoenix]

i dont think we ||will see much more on the dynamis front. meteion sang a last song of joy and hope and returned to hermes. meanwhile we can only use a burst of dynamis on lb3 in a short moment. there is no living being left who can effectively manipulate dynamis. and i think its better that way. dynamis is a too universal power. balancing it is a nightmare....||

[rain badger]

tbh this expansion made me a graha / ||emet selch simp||

they were mid in shadowbringers imo

[hardy wind]

In ShB I was on the verge of shipping WoL and Thancred, now I 100% ship WoL and Graha.

[urban phoenix]

awwwwwwwwwwww look at him so cute

[gaunt star]

lol

[urban phoenix]

pet for gems 😄

[kind lark]

I need the ||starbird minion||

[gaunt star]

mini metty when?

[hollow ice]

ssshow do you unlock the ability to purchase him

havent really done fate stuff before so im not sure how the system works aside from do fate get gem

[humble heron]

Do many fate

Until vendor unlock new thing

[grave bison]

||not really - he gives you the option to play it as Goku if you want to, but you can also tell him he's full of shit||

[astral trout]

||Well, yeah as WoLs motivation is your own you have a choice but I really like the first option||

[grave bison]

ending - anyone else pick up on the ||Nosferatu Zodd reference with us riding Zenos in his beast form to kill a god||?

[fiery leaf]

I need to know

[fiery leaf]

|| With every society dying, why? Like I read it but— their final days happened because they gave up? I wanted some clarification.

Also— why didn’t the light calamity happen here when we defeated Zodiark? What made it so different?||

[urban phoenix]

do 60 fates in the zone to unlock rank 3 and get pet and orchestrion scroll

[humble heron]

||the why, as meteion tells it, is because societies tried to get rid of suffering and loss and therefore doomed themselves. zodiark was never going to cause a calamity as the only way calamities happen is via the rejoining, i think||

[fiery leaf]

||Oh yeah, Hermes plot. He set this in motion. By the way , I hate when Amon and Hermes talk.||

Also for other societies:
||watching them collapse was mad depressing. my question is, where do we go now? It feels …. Pointless.||

[late aurora]

We go to the end

[gaunt star]

Jesus fucking CHRIST ||DEV TEAM, CHILL OUT @ "Summoning as it was intended, one might say"||

[humble heron]

@fiery leaf are you done with ew msq?

[grave bison]

||I loved this whole theme so much - explorations of various ways societies can lose their way despite achieving "utopia" - dominate enemies in war, cure all disease and achieve immortality, abandon physical bodies and discover the ultimate truth of the universe, go overboard with industrialization and destroy their environment, fall into despair after losing a massive war...||

[humble heron]

Or ||realize your anime waifu isnt real and will never be||

[fiery leaf]

|| Yes, basically I just need to talk to the others ||

[main umbra]

||Anyone feel like the Big Fat Taco at the final trial kinda made it too funny of a song, I love rest of it being a mash up but ||

[late aurora]

No?

[humble heron]

@fiery leaf ||cool then. Meteion said she sang a song to restore life to the universe, so thats an option, but i think the more relevant places we will go is what emet mentioned before the last dungeon, like Meracydia or the other reflections||

[wheat agate]

god damn the flow song is just

[marsh osprey]

wheres the lv 90 dungeon unlock, the endgame ones not msq

[grave bison]

everything is in sharlayan

[fiery leaf]

|| Oh so everything is back, including the Dragon Star (that's what made me lose it) also -- the machine area, was that Omegas home? ||

[kind lark]

Sharlyan has them

[marsh osprey]

thanks

[gaunt star]

||FFXIV starship looks better than HALO's||

[humble heron]

||we dont know the extent of what the song will do, but i assume everything we saw on ultima thule is gone forever||

[unreal delta]

||ah fuck we're getting into time wimey spacey shit with elidibus||

[fiery leaf]

||And we saw Midgardsormrs star and Omegas, right||

[glossy hemlock]

Yep

[humble heron]

||"hey dude im gonna beat you up in the future and then have you sacrifice your soul for me to time travel and hang out with your friends and potentially set the end of your world in motion but do you wanna be friends lol"||

[gaunt star]

||wheres dadcred? ;-;||

[late aurora]

||everywhere||

[gaunt star]

||it be funny if we get a spin off game that goes full on phantasy star or star ocean||

||like the tech on the moon just made me go so we pso2 now huh||

[brisk quail]

Yes.

As far as we know... ||the dragonstar/omicron planet is dead dead/gone gone||

[unreal delta]

||HADES ONLY GOT HOTTER FUCK||

[brisk quail]

I wouldn't ||want them resurfacing anyways. This is a fitting end||

[unreal delta]

||FUCK IVE BEEN SEEN ABORT ABORT||

[humble heron]

Man i have a great joke that would get me banned so fast smh

[unreal delta]

||HE MADE ME TALL TOO?||

[humble heron]

Ruru just wait like 3 minutes

[unreal delta]

||NO||

[humble heron]

Ur mind will explode into millions of pieces

[unreal delta]

||IT HIM HYTHLO||

[humble heron]

Thanks hugh newtron

[unreal delta]

||I love how they have absolutely no concern of me wielding a sword and being in plate armor||

||DAMN SO THIS IS JUST A FUCKING ZONE? WE JUST GET TO BE HERE????????||

[humble heron]

||yep||

[dim sigil]

Yup

[unreal delta]

||so these are those islands in the sky yoshi told us of..not our sky islands but yknow||

[humble heron]

Yepyep

[vale gazelle]

Yes

[unreal delta]

sounds about right for every expac tbh

[humble heron]

I mean it is the season finale its gonna have a lot of lore, but i do agree the pacing suffers

[vale gazelle]

But I'm fine with the cutscenes and the slow parts, they need to take the time to do the end justice. And high points wouldn't be high points without the slow parts before and afterwards.

[humble heron]

They already did that in ||garlemald||

[livid oracle]

Please give us a ||Meteion|| minion. She needs to be this expansions ||Alpha||

[vale gazelle]

Wait, ||if mankind escaped to the moon, what protects the moon from Meteion's song of oblivion?||

[drifting spoke]

||i want a robot race||

[tidal mauve]

It's kinda the falling action part of the expansion

Everything has to come together and be in place for the conclusion

[vale gazelle]

Isn't the ||song of oblivion on a universal scale?||

[livid oracle]

||That's the thing. There IS nowhere to escape the song of oblivion. This was literally their only recourse, however I am a bit peeved nobody mentioned this. "And wheresoever we go, whose to say the song of oblivion won't reach us there?" Wasn't even brought up. At all. wtf||

I took note of my emergency endwalker supplies.... and my tissue box is nearly empty. Granted I'm a 1.0 player, but I am wholly satisfied.

My feels have been thoroughly hit.

[drifting spoke]

||if i was yoshi i would have killed some of the main cast, to prove that u m|ust go on even if u suffer, fairy tale ending||

[vale gazelle]

Btw, I never imagined they would take the plot to this scale before EndWalker, that ||we literally just save the universe.||

[humble heron]

||RAMMING SPEED||

||all the dynamis in the world wont help you when a goddamn moon is travelling towards you at high speeds||

[livid oracle]

This the ||MCU problem. You save the universe, so going back to saving a city isn't as... grand anymore. It might be like, amazing, but you're basically fighting minions who are entirely irrelevant... and yet plot dictates they 1up you for plots convenience||

[humble heron]

||at least this time we have a fresh start. And now that we no longer have the blessing of light it allows them to bring the power level back down||

[tidal mauve]

Apparently they already have the next couple expansions planned

I wouldn't mind it becoming small scale again

[livid oracle]

||Are you sure my blessing of light is gone? Pretty sure my wil power, as seen in the final fight, is greater than the blessing of light||

[humble heron]

We go beat up a pope again

[vale gazelle]

I thought even without the ||blessing||, the WoL is still ridiculously op.

[humble heron]

We should just do nothing but beat up evil popes

[livid oracle]

Wasn't the buff in the final fight called ||Power of Will|| or something, and it literally made you invulnerable against ||Zenos||

[vale gazelle]

||Emet mentioned the twlve, but i'm not even slightly concerned about them, how could they possibly pose as a threat against WoL.||

[fiery leaf]

Oh one more who’s || which world was the ea? I wasn’t sure who belonged there. I know the other two are confirmed but yeah. ||

[livid oracle]

p l o t

[humble heron]

||they could be hot, the biggest threat to us atm||

[late aurora]

Myths of the realm

[humble heron]

||we dont really know||

[tidal mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/devil-may-cry-wacky-woohoo-pizza-man-adventures-monster-monster-energy-drink-dante-gif-19435285

[livid oracle]

||How the hell did the Ea foretell universal death by entropy, and Meteion agreed with them... then at the end she was like "Nah it'll fine life will begin again lol||

[vale gazelle]

Science

[livid oracle]

[humble heron]

@livid oracle ||i assume its because she and her sisters went batshit insane, understandably, and it took a solid beating to come back to reality||

[livid oracle]

||They all agreed Entropy will happen, eventually. It will happen to us as well. One day, many millions of years from now, our universe will have expanded so much that everything will be frozen. There won't be any life||

[vale gazelle]

||Didn't Meteion used the Song of Hope to rejuvenate the universe, so maybe that's what changed the eventual doom?||

[dense jackal]

omg the urge to uncover all these spoilers is too strong

[livid oracle]

||The issue then becomes, WHY WOULD SAY NAH IT'LL BE FINE||

[humble heron]

Get out, sylvie

[dense jackal]

BYE

[vale gazelle]

Run!

[lean ore]

bruh a lvl 90 paladin complained he cant play after going through a lenghty msq

[livid oracle]

||MAGIC. That's how we do it!||

[gaunt star]

G'Raha recognized a ||pattern on the fortress||. Is it ||Garlean||?

[humble heron]

||its more of line of the main theme of understanding that you cant prevent all suffering so lets have fun until the universe dies||

[livid oracle]

is the zone boss for ||Omega Thule|| fate active? None of my hunt linkshells have alerted me to it, and I want the ||Level Checker mount||

[lean ore]

https://tenor.com/view/smirk-anime-anime-girl-smirk-zenith-evil-smirk-funny-smile-gif-20308316

[north fulcrum]

https://fxtwitter.com/mane_tank/status/1469005674487156739?s=21

[livid oracle]

So basically

[marsh osprey]

[lean ore]

think its a 48 hour cooldown, but since we had a maintenance idk if it was reset

[humble heron]

@livid oracle ur cute and naughry

[lean ore]

tho it could be 24 hours 🤔 regardless ppl abuse the fact we got instances so they get multiple chi bolts xd

Keiren likes jessie whose also cute and naughty makes sense

[livid oracle]

i mean look at my banner when you click my name

[unreal delta]

||birb girl :)||

[lean ore]

thats why i said it xd

[livid oracle]

This is the best character in the expansion. Right behind ||Meteion||. Fight me.

[tidal mauve]

||I did always think of it as civilizations who achieved perfection no longer had purpose and surrendered to nihilism which caused their own decay, the Ea were only so distraught because they knew they would be there to witness the most final end of all and even then be denied death||

[lean ore]

will he get his pudding in beast tribe quests? /sweat

[livid oracle]

I want the ||pudding zombie emote|| and the ||hum||

[lean ore]

pizza emote US exclusive for now and i wanna kms

[vale gazelle]

Where my girl ||Venat|| at?

[livid oracle]

She is behind the other 2. Might be tied or slightly ahead of ||Puddin'||

[hollow ice]

dont forget ||sleepingway||

[livid oracle]

[hollow ice]

|| ™️ ||

[vale gazelle]

Damn, never imagined I'd like ||Venat/Haydelym|| this much before endwalker, ||she's such a badass.||

[marsh osprey]

they sync sage duty to 525 holy shit, absolute madmen

[tidal mauve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5itRVKR23M

[remote ridge]

can i ask a question please ? do any of you know the 3rd extreme release date?

[late aurora]

No

[lunar hound]

fighting ||Amon|| in the Crystal Tower feels a bit different now

[lean ore]

6.1 most likely

[unreal delta]

i forgot. is it every even patch thats a story patch and every odd patch is a raid patch or is it the other way round?

[lunar hound]

every patch is a story patch

[unreal delta]

well ofc. but i rememeber someone mentioning that focus on raid stuff for odd patches and put more story effort into even patches?

[lunar hound]

alternates between alliance and normal raids

[tidal mauve]

||he never summoned his trademark kum kums||

[lunar hound]

no difference in story effort between patches (or at least no pattern of one)

[feral glacier]

anyone know where to get the orchestrion roll for ||the final fight with Zenos?||

[grave bison]

PUDDINGWAY #1

[bitter forum]

max IL now is 580 from ex trials right

[mortal barn]

||https://i.imgur.com/igkfuw8.png|| blowing petals away

[inner ice]

meteion is so pure

[mortal barn]

https://i.imgur.com/WGkAswE.png

Hamsa reminds me of Odin's goats. Ride it in daylight. Eat it in moonlight

[viscid monolith]

We can estimate it

The regular patch cycle is 14 weeks which is 3.5 months

Meaning 6.1 should be mid to late March

[real venture]

With item level sync duties, do you get synced up or no?

[viscid monolith]

Just synced down

[real venture]

figured, thanks

[brisk quail]

Well

That's not totally true. Some sync you up

Mainly Bozja/DD

[bold condor]

Seems that music from Endwalker that was uploaded is getting copyright struck off of YouTube by SE. Even stuff that had gameplay footage.

idk if they'll cool it on that later but the final boss themes, for example, got taken down

[twin horizon]

is there an imgur or something of the new crafted and dungeon gear? I wanna glam hunt

[boreal palm]

I cant wait to see the relic weapons

[gloomy lake]

Carbuncle has the possibility ||of achieving 3 digit level...||

[next quarry]

Already in 7.0

[wanton seal]

||...ohh.. pandaemonium is in elpis... yeah how would we be going back there again when we should be canonically unable to anymore...||

[next quarry]

||portal is still open||

[humble heron]

Ive been hearing they changed their policy on uploading ost so it might be permanent

[bold condor]

Oh man.

[wanton seal]

oh huh.. i apparently missed that detail..

[hollow ice]

||its also been established that weve been there before our first trip to the past too||

[bold condor]

||Mhm, Elidibus said that he saw us in Elpis, but since we never saw him on the first trip it'd stand to reason he saw us in the Pandaemonium events.||

[untold shell]

||or we just use Kairos again||

[next quarry]

If it were up to me I'd just destroy that entire building

[grave bison]

||they explain it, sort of :P unlock the post-msq dungeons||

edit: oh nevermind, thought you were talking about the other zone

[hollow wolf]

sheesh

[humble heron]

Sheeshed

[next quarry]

How's to get that

[humble heron]

You have to beat up a forum member

[glossy hemlock]

Studium deliveries?

[hollow wolf]

You can wear it temporarily for a sidequest

[glossy hemlock]

Ohhh

[shell sand]

EW done :')

[hollow wolf]

Fast Fashion - Lalafellin Student - The Studium

[glossy hemlock]

Sad they’ve got some sweet drip tbh

[hollow wolf]

i'm not sure if we get to keep it but its nice for now anyway

[glossy hemlock]

Would show as a reward during the quest accept screen

[brisk quail]

Man. Bard got some juice. Timed based procs are a godsend for the class

[livid oracle]

I bet if ||Meteion|| hugged you ||with those super fluffy wings|| it'd feel comfy

[brisk quail]

No more DoT procs

[hollow sapphire]

If you didn't use trust for the lvl 87 dungeon wtf is wrong with you

[brisk quail]

Agree

[livid oracle]

Shoulda used trusts for the ||Fight with Hydaelyn||

[stuck helm]

Agreed

[brisk quail]

It's super intresting they did ||Trial trusts||

[hollow wolf]

then nah u dont get it

[brisk quail]

I wouldn't of expected it

[primal basalt]

||trial trust||

||singular||

[hazy apex]

||AHHHHH the music it makes me cry once more||

[urban phoenix]

hey ruru

[hasty moon]

where do i get 560 accessory? i got the armor rn but only accessory missing 😮

[brisk quail]

Expert dungeons

[jolly sierra]

|| me too bruh, me too ||

[brisk quail]

Aka:

||Dead Ends||
||Smileton||
||Sigma dreamscape||

[next quarry]

||"eScape is so good we won't let you forget it"||

[storm anchor]

||The music in Radz-at-Han after beating 6.0 is so good||

[grave bison]

||Smileton is so fucking cool, I thought it would be annoying but I love it||

[brisk quail]

||chicken tender: reloaded||

[jolly sierra]

|| honestly yeah I prefer it far more to stigma||

[gaunt star]

||There's something awesome about an M. C. Escher dungeon||

[jolly sierra]

|| I do wish we could run on the walls though, that would've made the dungeon 10/10 for me||

[next quarry]

Would've given me a headache

[hasty moon]

@brisk quail||i get deads ends but why sigma ? and smileton?oO||

[covert ferry]

Hey where do I go to spend the EW tomes?

[next quarry]

Radz

Near aetheryte

[covert ferry]

Cheers

[real venture]

|| a rematch for the ages! || MSQ 89

[livid oracle]

God damnit the music for the final zone is using my feels as a punching bag and it refuses to relent while I wait for Chi to spawn

[hollow wolf]

this game is so unrealistic, they tell us the WOL is strong and casually kill false Gods for breakfast but i can't stop a lalafell taking the forum robes off me /s

[brisk quail]

Those are ||Post-MSQ dungeons dungeons that have 560 accessories in the lootpool||

And given those are the latest dungeons... that's the Expert Roulette

[hollow ice]

is there anywhere with a list of what the bicolor gemstone folk sell after maxed out

[static niche]

i just realized what could be a terrifying aspect for 89 trial ultimate concept...
||ALL primals as summons.||
||since considering her solo duty summon was basically her three jobs summon LB||

[urban phoenix]

i can send you a screen for the 6th area

[hollow ice]

Id appreciate it, im curious what they have

[urban phoenix]

minion of zone 6

[hollow ice]

hes perfect

[static niche]

kek make sense

[steel steeple]

tiny troll is from 89 lvl dungeon?

[hollow ice]

its from the fates

[urban phoenix]

and then uh orchestrion role for close in the distance

[steel steeple]

which one? 😮

[hollow ice]

er from the bicolor gemstone traders that use the gems you get from fates

[urban phoenix]

of course the mount speed and uuuh

[hollow ice]

how much is a minion usually

[steel steeple]

are you sure its from gemstone trader? coz i saw info that its from dungeon

[hollow ice]

oh tiny troll

[urban phoenix]

500 gems

[hollow ice]

I thought you meant the minion in the pic XD

[steel steeple]

nah, tiny troll xd

[real venture]

is duty findering extremes possible?

[late aurora]

Yes, but don’t

[static niche]

wtf. queue in 2k
then i get in. not even building up to lower queue

[late aurora]

No

[static niche]

nope. ||it's manifestation of despairs memories that Memeion carry with her. or rather that dwells in her nest||

[lean ore]

|| also the dragons there are Blasphemies ||

[quasi zodiac]

wtf is this shiiiit

[tulip geyser]

No fight left to fight

[urban phoenix]

ooooof thats reaaally mean now xD

[urban phoenix]

looks like they stopped queuing people. if the server is full its full. everbody else got the short end

[urban phoenix]

?

i dont understand what you want to tell me

[livid oracle]

Sharlayan cutscenes in a nutshell

[tranquil igloo]

its cause the servers fucked themselves and let in a bunch of the queue people at the same time (considering i'm seeing some reddit posts of people being at like 2400 in the queue and instantly getting in)

[livid oracle]

so many fucking people i cant even see the other side lol

[tranquil igloo]

so yeah, its literally just the world servers are overloaded and have way too many people over the cap lol

[urban phoenix]

many many woofers

[livid oracle]

at least the music isnt chugging and struggling like my draw distance for avatars lol

[undone zodiac]

Urianger has clean shaven legs confirmed

[vital brook]

How the heck can we activate the echo on ||blasphemies if they are basically empty and not aether anymore?||

[livid oracle]

||Are you sure it's echo and not strength of will?||

[vital brook]

I mean ||seeing memories||

[pastel venture]

||Could have been the priest i think?||

[ivory wolf]

Where do you get your lvl 90 artifact armor?

Or rather, through what method. MSQ? The role quests?

[humble heron]

Msq

[ivory wolf]

👌

[bronze brook]

Saddest Superbolide cast ever

||https://imgur.com/SK4c9Tm||

[jade relic]

Maybe the echo works on || dynamis ||

[glossy hemlock]

Same artist

[dim sigil]

|| It's kind of really funny to think hyd was probably just like hiding behind the crystal talking to us back then ||

[glossy hemlock]

|| she specifically said she had been reserving that power to manifest before them until the time came to test them. ||

[gusty quiver]

WHAT IS HAPPENING?!

||WHY ARE THERE MOON RABBITS||

[unreal delta]

||BNNUY||

[humble heron]

@gusty quiver the real viera

@unreal delta oh are you enjoying the ||robes|| from zone 5

[gusty quiver]

That's it Viera ||come from the moon||

[unreal delta]

Yes

[humble heron]

Good

[hollow ice]

cuz ||final fantasy iv exists||

[agile needle]

||Watch them become the next ascian level threat||

[forest hatch]

I just love Loporrits

[gusty quiver]

OHHHH it's IV thing

[astral trout]

Moon rabbits are a folk in Asia

[humble heron]

||puddingway ex||

[unreal delta]

Lvl 85-86 Spoilers

||Amielle shidding her pants rn||

[ruby loom]

my new muscle memory is gonna kill me

[olive spruce]

Do you guys feel the dungeons are harder to tank?

[urban phoenix]

didnt try out ew ones yet

[unreal delta]

as a tank: No
but ive only done a few

[ruby loom]

define harder? As long as your healer knows what they're doing and your DPS aren't using single target on pulls you can easily wall to wall pull up to at least the 87 dungeon and the level 90 dungeons aren't a problem either provided you got at least some up to date gear

[agile needle]

||The Minstrel’s Ballad: Livingway’s Rage||

[unreal delta]

||EXSCUSE ME EMET IS YOUNG??||

[olive spruce]

I did wall to walls on every one of them and everything went fine... But I feel like I took considerable more damage than before

[urban phoenix]

isnt he cute ❤️

[unreal delta]

he's so fucking hot

[olive spruce]

I might be undergeared tho

[urban phoenix]

yes he is xD

[agile needle]

||He’s already half xehanort||

[humble heron]

||ascians more like snaccians||

[ruby loom]

and ||our boy H-Bro?||

[forest hatch]

||that's just xehanort||

[unreal delta]

||Hythlo|| is adorable

[jade relic]

|| puddingway has to eat uriange cooking again ||

[unreal delta]

my only concern is their size. ||If emet hadn't spared some of his aether and increased our size i fear i may have gone insane||

||Sorry to be horny in general, but Size fetish intensifies||

[humble heron]

That just means extra thiccness

[humble heron]

||im sure the fanfic writers will help with that dw||

[urban phoenix]

hu...

[vale gazelle]

Is there a lot of fanfics for ff14?

[unreal delta]

[humble heron]

I mean there are millions of players, there has to be

[late aurora]

Even if there isn’t, be the change you want to see in the world

[urban phoenix]

when i visit doujinshi sides for uh scientific research there wher indeed some studies over ffxiv

[vale gazelle]

Imagine all the ||Emet and Hythlodyth fanfic there will be, why are the ancients all so hot.||

[forest hatch]

what the fuck is this monster's name

[unreal delta]

MAJOR lvl 86 msq spoilers

||SHE FUCKING KNOWS, ABORT ABORT WE'VE BEEN FOUND||

[urban phoenix]

üüüüüü

[humble heron]

Thats a freddie mercury

[unreal delta]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne73FoA8ovc

[forest hatch]

[urban phoenix]

ruru was my pic cute

[vale gazelle]

Is ||Azem the most powerful of the convocation? We only only 8/13 shards and we're already beating up everything.||

[tulip geyser]

|| 🍴 I'm ready, Ancient polycule pls 🍴 ||

[urban phoenix]

should fanta into a hyur for perfection Xd

[unreal delta]

it was uwu

[humble heron]

All races are good

Be what you want to be and don't let anyone tell you otherwise

[urban phoenix]

i mean for the screenshot

[dusky shoal]

love the choices lol

[urban phoenix]

i love my lizzer dearly

[humble heron]

Also yes that was a good pic

[urban phoenix]

i chose artisan thinking about the other type of artisan

i forgot crafters where also....artisans....

sadly you cannot blend out credits from that scene

[humble heron]

I assume dataminers will eventually be able to grab it

[unreal delta]

I chose adventurer since it made the most sense like. What else is my job

[urban phoenix]

i want this with text gone for desktop background T_T

[tulip geyser]

||We're not a god, we get blindsided, poisoned, nearly killed by light juice and gods know what else.
We're strong, sure, but not invincible.
Besides, probably whatever the first Azem did to get a whole seat named after them way long time ago was probably very Real Shit||

[humble heron]

Your job is to pat the catboys @unreal delta

[hollow ice]

crafter/gatherer or doh/dol aka artisan

[slate ridge]

seems ||ffxiv confirmed the popoto lalafell meme with https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Giant_Popoto||

[unreal delta]

I could go for "champion of eorzea" but like.
Our point when ||Visiting sharlayan was to lay low|| I couldnt very well just announce that

[slate ridge]

sadly its in the new area that i haven't yet arrived at ||(i was unfortunately spoiled on the name, its the floating islands one i think)||

[urban phoenix]

not that they knew anyway

[urban phoenix]

azem is a title not a name 🙂

[humble heron]

I mean it could also have been a name

[tulip geyser]

||For the very first Azem, that was their name.||

[urban phoenix]

i think rommy posted the cross reference to ff 12 here yesterdax

its a cross reference and hommage to ff 12 espers and scions of the light from another ff

[humble heron]

Also, you know whats funny? ||ive never played ff4, but i immediately recognized the battle music when i heard it on the moon||

[urban phoenix]

😄

[unreal delta]

i still think they should have had ||Emet keep us small||

[urban phoenix]

[unreal delta]

SHUT

[tulip geyser]

That probably would have been N i g h t m a r e to do cutscenes with for the devs

[urban phoenix]

😛 i mean i find gura cute so who am i to bonk XD

[unreal delta]

it would have. but it also would have been kinda cute ||hot||

[tulip geyser]

||Randomly, Im loving the slow infection of "-way" names in here ||

[humble heron]

That would make some of the later scenes interesting and now i need someone to cmtools it

[frozen shoal]

How much exp do role quests give in EW?

[humble heron]

About the same as msq for that level

[frozen shoal]

So about 400k per quest meaning 2 mil xp?

[humble heron]

Maybe a tad more but yes

[unreal delta]

lvl 87 msq spoilers

||Of course Answer's would be the music played in Venat's home...||

[humble heron]

I mean how could you not

[late aurora]

Just wait, it gets better

[humble heron]

I suspect ruru will be yelling in about, uh, maybe an hour or two?

[glossy hemlock]

definitely

[elder marsh]

Final trial identity spoilers:
||when do we get the endsinger ex trial?||

[glossy hemlock]

Next patch iirc

[elder marsh]

6.01?

[humble heron]

6.05 i think

[late aurora]

No that’s Savage, 6.1

[rich lark]

level 90 ||what happens if you say you don't want to fight zenos?||

[humble heron]

Time isnt real anyway so it doesnt matter

[late aurora]

Lol you think you have choices

[glossy hemlock]

You can’t not

[jade relic]

I chose the top option, and was rewarded with an excellent smug face

[rich lark]

I know I just want to know what the dialogue is since ||he seems to leave it open ended||

[elder marsh]

Damnit gotta wait around 4 months then

[unreal delta]

hey uh

||we just fucked with the timeline didnt we...||

[late aurora]

Ain’t the first time

[naive quest]

I was going nuts about it. Like I knew the song but from where?!? And then I found out and was like, Ohhhhh

[brisk quail]

No

[jade relic]

|| the other two options are "youve finally mustered the anger to kill me" or something like that ||

[unreal delta]

||But. We fucked with the past. if our changes here somehow cause a massive change, the future i return to will not be the future i went back in time to save||

[glossy hemlock]

Keep playing girl

[urban phoenix]

^keeep playin

[unreal delta]

o-okay

[jade relic]

Dont read until youve finished msq || but the changes we made were meant to happen, if we didnt go back noone would know what happpened and we wouldnt arrive at where we are now. its closed loop time travel ||

dont read that unless youve finished msq ^

[glossy hemlock]

Omfg lol

[brisk quail]

The proof is in the ||pudding Argos||
Don't read unless you beat MSQ

[humble heron]

You should preface that before you say the spoiler

[jade relic]

sorry, I didnt think of it until after i sent it

[humble heron]

Go edit the original then

[jade relic]

i mostly assume if youre in here youve finished msq

[humble heron]

A few people havent

[wet summit]

tbh you probably shouldn't click ANYTHING spoilered in here if you haven't finished msq

[humble heron]

Ye

[urban phoenix]

i wanna see holo live playin endwalker

[brisk quail]

You shouldn't even be in this server until you beat MSQ

[wet summit]

you shouldn't ___ until you beat MSQ

[humble heron]

You shouldn't even exist until you beat msq

[brisk quail]

I legit left the server for 3 days to beat MSQ then got on.

[jade relic]

I did msq, wanted to talk about it, then found this server lmao

[wet summit]

i got spoiled because i decided to look at how many quests i had left

[humble heron]

Thats the biggest culprit

[brisk quail]

Don't look up fight themes, don't look up quest names, don't join discords, don't open reddit, don't google search anything...

[jade relic]

i did that in shadowbringers and it spoiled me, so i held back this time

[wet summit]

i mean, in a way it sorta hyped me up
"oh this cool thing I vaguely know will happen is going to happen now I can't wait to get there and learn the context behind it"

[humble heron]

I got spoiled on the name of the final trial and that was it

[uncut mica]

I went in so blind, I didn't know Labyrinthos existed before I went there

I've seen later that it was spoken about in press shit

[humble heron]

Thats commitment

[wet summit]

kinda wish I intentionally went super slowly

[wet mountain]

I shouldve just went in blinded no trailer what's so ever or live letter but couldn't resist

[humble heron]

I mean the liveletters exist for a reason

They certainly didnt spoil anything of value with the marketing

[wet summit]

that's kinda why i like the trailers tbh
they have spoilers but you don't know the context

so you watch a trailer and then as you play you go

"OH HEY THIS IS A TRAILER MOMENT HELL YEAH"

same with hearing some of the trailer music

[uncut mica]

Going in I was basically like, moon's haunted, Fandaniel's being fucky, and YoshiP got the fucking drip

[jade relic]

i went back and watched the trailer, im surprised they made it so hype and didnt spoil almost anything at all. really well done

[urban phoenix]

yeah

alright time for bed. have fun on the moon^^

[wet summit]

gn

[wet mountain]

So do a lot of people hate , In from the Cold quest

[uncut mica]

Movie trailers: OK here's the movie in 60 seconds
Endwalker: we will throw in a quote from the last hour of gameplay and you will have no fucking idea until you hear it

[humble heron]

Its polarizing, oriana, but I personally love it

[wet mountain]

It's where you do a instance and need to find a battery and the machine if you don't remember

So much people hated it haha

[humble heron]

I embrace having different types of gameplay

[wet summit]

people thought in the cold sucked?
I fucking loved that quest, everything about it was amazing

one of my favorite moments in the entire expansion honestly

[jade relic]

i loved it also, really showed that the average soldier is nothing compared to any named character. I had the adrenaline going and everything it was great

[humble heron]

Yeah got me pumped up

[uncut mica]

It had a stupid design flaw to it, where I didn't for minutes realize ||you needed to pay your respects to the guy you killed||, I ended up suiciding so I could start it over because of that

[glossy hemlock]

LOL

[wet summit]

"its too hard"
yeah then... put it on easy

[wet mountain]

Haha

[uncut mica]

They also allocated a ridiculous amount of time for it, I think I had like 12 minutes on the clock when the final sequence started, the MGS4 part

[humble heron]

Yeah i cleared with 15 mins to spare

[wet summit]

only quests i agree sucked were the tailing missions

[jade relic]

|| seeing Zenos in my body was truly truly disturbing, it was a great sequence ||

[wet summit]

||first zenos takes us on a romantic dinner date, then he gets inside us, then we ride him. Then we fight each other. true romance||

[uncut mica]

||I hated when he met them in my body because he was so fucking obvious about it. Dude's just grinning like, hey I'm about to kill you.||

[wet mountain]

Haha

[jade relic]

what a terrible day to have eyes

[uncut mica]

If you're gonna borrow it, at least use it properly

[unreal delta]

not gonna lie

[wet summit]

zenos lays eggs during the shinryu fight in stormblood

just a reminder

[unreal delta]

||That sequence where we're in the garlean's body is actually really fun and REALLY puts it into perspective how powerful we are. It conveys fear and worry so well||

[uncut mica]

zenos fucked ur mum in stormblood

[glossy hemlock]

LOL

[wet summit]

||its a good way to take away our power without doing the typical jrpg bullshit||

[vague forum]

Wait

[unreal delta]

YEP!

[vague forum]

What’s this about in the cold sucking?

[static niche]

people not git gud basically

[glossy hemlock]

I just found part of it gross

[static niche]

git gud then weakling

[wet summit]

||am i the only one that thought the thancred gear solid quest was actually pretty fun||

[vague forum]

It was one of the best things I’ve seen an MMO do.
By giving you some perspective

[uncut mica]

I wouldn't moan about it even if I didn't like it, it's such a short moment

[humble heron]

I think it is supposed to a little like, shocking

[unreal delta]

People mad that they have to put SOME effort into MSQ

[static niche]

haha who got instant deleted

[unreal delta]

Into the cold is fun as fuck

[vague forum]

||On how much easier you have it as an eorzean, compared to these fragile garleans who can’t wield aether||

[humble heron]

Also i think nobody will compain about ||fandaniel in a butler outfit mmmmyes||

[vague forum]

Nope I’m right there with you

[jade relic]

it shows you why the average garlean soldier/citizen is terrified of and kinda hates you. compared to them youre unbelievably strong, and you finally get to see that

[uncut mica]

The thing I truly despise is ||people right at the end of MSQ going "omg zenos cringe"||

[unreal delta]

Horny for fandaniel? Banned. Removed. Kicked. Booted. Deleted.

[kind moss]

hey if you do the second trial ||with trusts as a healer, who changes||?

[wet summit]

end of msq spoilers:
||I really wish we had an option to take zenos's body with us, although I guess the game wanted to leave it ambiguous if he survived||

[static niche]

||GRAHA||

[vague forum]

||Tmw Zenos was inside us, was truly fascinating||

[jade relic]

I agree, || Zenos arriving is the most final fantasy thing ive ever seen in ff14 ||

[static niche]

||also so FF we rode the primal.||

[wet summit]

||yeah I enjoyed riding zenos||

[jade relic]

yep i loved it

[static niche]

that was the first time we ||actually rode a primal right? beside fighting them and saddling them to beat the shit out of em right?||

[vague forum]

||I’m used to seeing that degree of blind Zenos hate, so much so they don’t recognize the one moment he was done right (outside of stormblood)||
So it ain’t really that big a deal

[static niche]

i do wonder how ||zenos was able to transform into shinryu tho, considering he didn't even worship shinryu.||

[wet summit]

||zenos is a good character, but he doesn't work as a central antagonist||

[vague forum]

||I disagree, he worked well in stormblood||

[wet summit]

||that's why he worked so well for me in endwalker||

[static niche]

he worked as ||SB central antagonist. to prove that there's always someone on our level.||

i means ||he LITERALLY shit on us.||

[vague forum]

||But I understand why he wouldn’t work well as a central antagonist outside stormblood.||

[static niche]

well yeah

[wet summit]

I know we say this every expansion, but endwalker will literally be impossible to top

[static niche]

nice

[humble heron]

I can top endwalker in 1 sentence

[jade relic]

id be happy with a more subdued expansion next, just something light and easy

[vague forum]

||But just like Jetstream Sam, sometimes the not main antagonist can steal the entire game||

[humble heron]

Estinien becomes a professional chef and has chef hat and cooks food

[wet summit]

||how do you get better than a expansion with 10 years of buildup which ends with you going to the edge of the universe and fighting the personification of despair while she throws fucking planets at you||

[vague forum]

Give it 10 years

[jade relic]

1 whole expansion || working in tataru's factory ||

[static niche]

honestly, i can see them topping endwalker as whole, but there is no way they can ||top the final area, it's such a peak final map experience that i can;'t see how they can make a even more finalier map in later expansions||

[undone iris]

Finished the game, there's one thing I didn't quite understand 100%, can someone explain to me Fandaniel's timeline?

[hollow ice]

||we must colonize the blue mage lands!||

[wet summit]

the final area made me really want ||an expansion where we go explore different stars. Maybe a timeskip considering life is going to be able to form again in the universe now||

[static niche]

||all while zenos no sells the fucking shits she does.||

im go look at tvtrope. i wanna see what they added

[vague forum]

Look, Endwalker is the culmination of 10 whole ass years of final fantasy.
||That can’t be topped anytime soon, instead let the next story arc cook a bit under the over and once it reaches its climax you can compare that to EW||

[wet summit]

||like, expansion where we go exploring around a bunch of stars that send us distress signals with some overarching villain. Helping different alien worlds and species rebuild their society, that kinda thing||

[gaunt star]

I don't need story/lore details or anything, but are the ||EW beast tribes (and how many)|| unlockable yet?

[wet summit]

||could do a timeskip/time passes differently on other stars to explain how everything isn't dead rn||

[vague forum]

||I think we’re gonna do some eorzea exploration first; and then we’ll work on something else||

[static niche]

better idea.
||let us experience venat story||

[vague forum]

||My guess is we will explore the 13th||

[wet summit]

||maybe going back in time too?||

[vague forum]

||More like my hope is exploring the 13||

[jade relic]

|| Fandaniel is just a title, like a rank on the convocation. There were at least 2 people with the rank of fandaniel in this game, Hermes and Amon ||

[lucid scaffold]

looking like a cia document in here

[vague forum]

||Amon is a shard of Hermes.||

[humble heron]

No

[granite nimbus]

||Fandaniel began as Hermes, a nice guy who was the chief overseer of the research facility Elpis. In his role, he feels really bad about unmaking creations willy-nilly like the other ancients do. To figure out the meaning of life, he sends up the Meteia, special beings created specifically to react to and utilize dynamis/akasa, emotional energy separate from aether. After Meteia report that all other life in the universe is either dead or dying horribly while only wishing for the release of death, he sends the least Meteion that we talked to the edge of the universe to eventually test mankind's worthiness to live while wiping his, Emet-Selch's, and Hythlodaeus' memories of it to keep it "fair". Only we and Venat escape this.||

[uncut mica]

Blizzard: this patch is the end of an arc beginning from warcraft 3!
YoshiP: I just ended a decade-long line of storytelling. I also set up the next 10-15 years worth of content in under a minute, and will not deliberate on it

[astral trout]

[End Spoilers] ||We'll we ever learn what happened to Azem during the past end?||

[static niche]

||most likely we survived to the very end beating the shits out of Beasts with handful of other ancients until Venat sundered zodiark||

[wet summit]

||like, go back in time to help the bringer of light/undo the flood of darkness in the 13th. And explore a bunch of zone before and after it got destroyed. think there's a lot of potential for it to be really cool||

[jade relic]

|| yes but emet selch elevated him to the seat of fandaniel. Just as we are a shard of azem but not azem, so Amon is a shard of Hermes but isn’t Hermes ||

[granite nimbus]

||Fandaniel, oblivious to his actions with his memory wiped, attempted to help prevent the Final Days, but was sundered by Hydaelyn and eventually reincarnated into Amon, the chief scientist of the Allagan Empire. He ended up becoming super loyal to Xande and his belief that all life is meaningless before death resonated with him. So when Emet-Selch restored his memories of being Fandaniel/Hermes, Amon decided to work toward fulfilling Xande's will and end everything.||

[vague forum]

||The thing that people seem to confuse is that before the sundering the seats were just titles, but ever since the sundering bearers of the seats were shards of the last unsundered holder of said seat.||

[ruby loom]

||probably some more stories about them jumping into volcanoes to safe different kinds of fruits||

[astral trout]

||Did we try to avert the end? Were we on her side? Those would be a nice thing to explore||

[wet summit]

[5th zone spoilers] ||would love to see an alliance raid series that sees us exploring more of elpis/the unsundered world||

[granite nimbus]

@undone iris ||He waits until the end of ShB for Elidibus to die before putting his master plan in order to eventually possess Zodiark and threaten to have Zodiark kill everything to get the WoL and their pals to weaken Zodiark enough so Fandaniel can get Zodiark to kill itself to start the Final Days.||

[vague forum]

||There is a difference between succeeding the previous holder of the seat and reclaiming the seat and all the memories it holds.
Amon is basically 1/14th of Hermes. But before Hermes there were other Fandaniel||

[ruby loom]

dunno if you've kept up with live letters etc but they've already announced that one but it's about something else

[jade relic]

Fair

[wet summit]

oh i had no idea

[astral trout]

At zone 5 ||I expected to meet Azem and that would be very paradoxical and character model would be interesting||

[native sapphire]

holy shit lmao , when ||alisaie tried to spurt something to zenos and then he just heard her and walked away instantly, this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLz9xU6J88k should have played in the background as he walked away rofl||

[hollow ice]

hey ||you did meet azem XD||

[ruby loom]

yeah but no worries. it will be something even coolor going by the concept of it

[jade relic]

|| we are told we are a shard of azem, but do we ever learn the real name of the azem we are a shard of? That would be interesting to explore ||

[vague forum]

||That’s why Hythlodaeus calls us “new old friend”
We are basically his old friend, but sundered.||

[wet summit]

yeeee

[jade relic]

we meet the ||former azem, not the one we are a shard of ||

[hollow ice]

that was the joke

[vague forum]

||Little did we realize, that actually had so much effect on him he learned to compromise||

[vital brook]

FUCK

[jade relic]

oh yeah that one quest sucks

[vital brook]

10 sidequests, why?!

[vague forum]

||I guess Alisaie can take pride in the fact that she literally changed the most one-track-minded individual in FF14, Lahabrea notwithstanding||

[humble heron]

No swearing in my christian ff14 server

[hollow ice]

its one of the biggest expansions

youll get even more later dw