retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[weary smelt]

It's low key chill

[glossy hemlock]

I accidentally linked an area on the map in || Ultima Thune|| in Novice Network

But it was so late that I think no one was on or paying attention lmfao

[gaunt star]

||it makes sense for meteion to not be too known and not seen a lot. The whole cause of the calamity is not known at all and she was only a personal experiment from an ancient age that left hte planet. If she was more known and seen more, it would of made less sense as people would know the cuase of the calamity beforehand||

[indigo shale]

||and with hermes wiping the memories of all those present, bar us and venat ofc, meant it remained hidden||

[glossy hemlock]

Yeah a big part about the story is that they absolutely cannot know || about the final days like they made the mind erasing happen specifically for that ||

[kind lark]

Emet had a whole expac to himself but meteion had like half of one

[civic basin]

||Why wouldn't Venat explain what happened to the others?||

[indigo shale]

well length wise its about the same

[gaunt star]

||man i was so excited about the idea of going to space thinking that we would probably visit other planets in future expansions and meteion comes and tells us every planet is dead||

[indigo shale]

and if anything ||metion had 10 years of build up||

[glossy hemlock]

|| She had no way of knowing how to stop Meteion at that point and no one listened to her either and Emet Selch didn’t even believe it tbh.. Saying anything about it wouldn’t have changed anything ||

[kind lark]

10 years?

[indigo shale]

||the final days, calamities, talked about in every expansion all because of metion||

[civic basin]

I don't think that was 10 years of build up, that's like saying the jailer had 20 years of build up since WC3

[kind lark]

More like 2 years

[hushed lodge]

||meteion is more like zenos in that she's a concept taken to an extreme rather than a character in a sense. ||

[glossy hemlock]

That’s not true, || every planet she went to was dead or in turmoil, her whole thing she was doing was decimating planets with life on them, there are plenty of live planets that she hasn’t destroyed. ||

[gaunt star]

i feel like i had just witnessed a fever dream LMAO

||I the whole metetion as a villain. She may not have as much buildup as emet but it makes a lot sense and honestly, I dont think I seen anything else in FFXIV explore those kinds of themess, so I really like it.||

[unreal delta]

...
They clearly have no intention of speaking with you.

[static niche]

still can't get over how ||OP venat is, to unleash Hydaelyn on herself and only by herself.||

[gaunt star]

i have no idea where the story could go from here tbh

[glossy hemlock]

Solving more problems

[unreal delta]

meracydia is my guess

[indigo shale]

||well possibly powered by the splinter faction that existed still i doubt it was only her||

[gaunt star]

||dragoon level 80 quest said something about nidhogg protecting our planet from something, so they probably were planning meteion since shadowbringers||

[static niche]

||bring omega back and give it the form its wished for again||

[glossy hemlock]

Hopefully NOT TAILING MORE NPCS

[unreal delta]

do people rlly find it that bad?

[gaunt star]

i think that cutscene was more of a metaphor and not what actually happened

[unreal delta]

its...just follow the damn npc or the npc follows you...its not that difficult....

[static niche]

[indigo shale]

hopefully they do have more varied missions rather than doing the same thing we were doing in arr all the way till EW

[glossy hemlock]

Yes but the one in ||Garlemald|| was intentionally annoying

[indigo shale]

it served its purpose to prefection

[unreal delta]

with the girl in green?

[glossy hemlock]

No with the child

[unreal delta]

ah, seems i haven't gotten there yet

[gaunt star]

||I was honestly thinking we would be visitng other planets but now we know literally everyone else is dead, or is dying, lmao||

[unreal delta]

im still 82 msq

[glossy hemlock]

Again that’s not true

[simple axle]

tfw dungeon 5 doesn't drop left gear

[indigo shale]

||i doubt metion went to every single star in the known universe||

[hushed lodge]

||as bad as it sounds it was hype seeing all those other stars getting wiped out||

[glossy hemlock]

All I want is Werlyt restoration so I can hang out with Gaius

They baited me SO HARD by having || him hanging out in Ala Mhigo before you went to Garlemald ||

[indigo shale]

i think garlemald restoration is a potential plot thread, ||as alisae and alphi are going back to help jullus||

[gaunt star]

||hmm, yeah, true. ||

[simple axle]

||im hoping we visit other shards since momcat is gonna do research on it
or meracydia||

[glossy hemlock]

And it better involve || Gaius if they do ||

[jade relic]

|| only the ones meteion visited before giving in to despair ||

[gaunt star]

||also i think its implied that having seen so many worlds destroyed she accidentally influenced other worlds to eventually die with dynamis||

[indigo shale]

||its a shame nero werent voiced, guess some VA's were just unavailable so roles probably got shortened for some chars||

[gaunt star]

||next expansion could be us with omega trying to find survivors in different planets||

[jade relic]

|| maybe we can explore the 12, who they are and what they are ||

[indigo shale]

we are doing that this, has been teased since EW was first revealed

myths of the realm

[simple axle]

||it's gonna be the alliance raid||

[jade relic]

Is that confirmed?

[indigo shale]

yeah, since day one

[gaunt star]

yup

[jade relic]

Oh ok nice

[torn robin]

fuck me then

[unreal delta]

so. let me get one thing correct in the timeline of Locus Amoenus

Graha mentioned his people lived therebefore the frost set in which allowed the garleans to migrate there.

[indigo shale]

also ||erenville best npc in the expansion||

[unreal delta]

yes?

[mellow spade]

||Elpis gives me such great xenoblade 2 vibes it's awesome||

[kind lark]

||Elpis is the easily the best zone||

[gaunt star]

also where did ||arenvald and fordola go||? they were not in the expansion lmao

[glossy hemlock]

Apparently ||Arenvald|| is in a job quest but whoever posted it refused to say which job.

[kind lark]

Healer

[glossy hemlock]

Thancc

[gaunt star]

nice

[elder hill]

||i saw Hien and Yugiri in credits only ||

[unreal delta]

anyone wanna confirm my question?

[indigo shale]

||probably didnt heal his legs though||

[zealous hatch]

Do we have the new beast tribes yet or will that come later?

[glossy hemlock]

Later

[mellow spade]

what do we have to do post msq at the moment?

and when can we expect more things?

[zealous hatch]

2 extreme trials and i think 2 dungeons

[hushed lodge]

yeah. the extra 2 dungeons are quite imaginative for lack of a better term

[unreal delta]

Im just going to assume im correct

[indigo shale]

and soon the raids, trial series, and advernturing zone will be released

[kind lark]

Honestly the dungeons and trials are so good in EW

[indigo shale]

adventuring zone will probs be 6.35 as thats when bozja released aswell

[gaunt star]

||mera could b cool but rn im honestly at a loss||

[unreal delta]

so assuming im correct. The garleans invaded the homeland of miqo'te, enslaved them, and then claim that locus amoenus is "their" homeland.
Garleans lmao

[gaunt star]

||weird robo bitch is just so weird to me, idk why, not that i hate the expac or anything||

[hushed lodge]

||venat best space mom/teacher||

[zealous hatch]

when are are we getting island sanctuary or whatever it's called

[kind lark]

||Meteion?||

[hushed lodge]

||meteion?||

[zealous hatch]

||i really felt for Meteion. Poor thing just didn't want to make Hermes sad||

[tulip cove]

can anyone help? trying to farm sack of nuts from the new hunt boards. slayed the weekly elite but I didn't receive any sack of nuts, only gil

[indigo shale]

||i see hermes as the embodiment of the flaws with all of the ancients, seeing them selves as gods, treating death as though its a just a party invite||

[unreal delta]

okay am ignored, back to msq i go

[hushed lodge]

||Hermes makes my head hurt cause I have to consider all the stuff with Amon and Fandaniel as part of his characterization||

[frozen shoal]

How long is the last 4 quests going to take?

[zealous hatch]

the last quest alone is like 2 hours

[frozen shoal]

Dayum, guess I should eat dinner and continue

[gaunt star]

yeah

[zealous hatch]

||but weren't amon and fandaniel just a shard of hermes, like how we are a shard of azem?||

[gaunt star]

i just have a way with words ig! granted i have not fought ||Weird space bitch||

[indigo shale]

||well fandan is a seat, anyone can be that, amon was raised to that seat, the last person who was on that seat at the time of the sundering was hermes, so any fandaniel raised would have memories of hermes||

[urban phoenix]

does anybody know the title of the song at the end of msq before you fight that final boss?

[lean ore]

a

[stray pewter]

||I. feel....so violated and icky. My sanctity has been violated. SE DID US DIRTY Q_____Q||

[kind lark]

I wouldn't mess with ||weird space bitch|| if I were you

[glossy hemlock]

What..?

[gaunt star]

me neither tbh, but ||i know we're gonna have to eventually, wtf is up with all the blood eyes in this expac||

[stray pewter]

one of the msq quests left a bad taste in my mouth

[hushed lodge]

||I assume its the body hijacking||

[kind lark]

Which one?

[gaunt star]

That’s not exactly correct, ||Amon was the sundered soul of Hermes||

[zealous hatch]

||ya but like you can't consider what amon and fandaniel did as being Hermes' actions because that wasn't actually him||

[glossy hemlock]

Oh which one? I think I know what you’re talking about

[tawny gazelle]

You can't just raise anyone up, it was a shard

[kind lark]

||I was laughing, he was on a date with us, the devs knew what they were doing.||

[stray pewter]

In from the cold

[indigo shale]

you can, though it was preferred to have same soul

[zealous hatch]

||the whole body swapping quest was a swing and a miss imo, both story-wise and gameplay-wise||

[hushed lodge]

||Well true but as Amon goes on to state while they weren't the main reasons for his actions it still influenced him.||

[tawny gazelle]

Only if they're the sundered convo themselves

[indigo shale]

nope

[gaunt star]

||the ones who were raised to the seat post sundering was the sundered souls of those who held the seats right before the sundering||

[glossy hemlock]

Idk what that means just spoil what happens I’ve beat MSQ

[tawny gazelle]

lol

[indigo shale]

can be anyone, but the unsundered find it easier to imprint those memories on those who have the sundered soul

[kind lark]

Is cutting the cheese one of the dungeons?

[hushed lodge]

yeah

[lean ore]

|| thats the body hijacking msq ||

[astral lodge]

Regarding the scene after ||The Tower of Babil, a copypasta||

||Fandaniel: I've come to make an announcement: the Warrior of Light is a bitch ass motherfucker, they pissed on my fucking tower, thats right, they took their Warrior fucking quilly dick out, and he pissed on my fucking tower, thats right, he pissed on my fucking tower, and he said his dick was...THIS BIG, and I said thats disgusting. So I'm making a callout on my linkpearl: Warrior of Light, you've got a small dick, its the size of this tower except way smaller. And guess what, heres what my dong looks like, opens up tower Thats right baby, all point, no quills, no pillows, look at that it looks like two dongs and an even larger dong. He fucked my tower so guess what, I'm gonna fuck Etheirys. Thats right this is what you get, my super laser piss! fires laser Except I'm not gonna piss on Ethierys I'm gonna go higher, I'm PISSING ON THE MOON. HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT HYDAELYN, I PISSED ON THE MOON YOU IDIOT!!! You have until the final days until the piss Drrrrropllllets hit the fucking world, so get out of my fucking sight, before I piss on you too||

Only makes sense if you've seen that sonic realtime dub

[glossy hemlock]

Ahh yeah I also didn’t like that one it was pretty gross

[indigo shale]

iirc its mentioned somewhere post SB or ShB, possibly by emet or elidibus

[glossy hemlock]

LMFAO I LOVE THAT VIDEO

[jovial kernel]

||i forget how do u hide your message when sending

[lean ore]

|| at the start and end of the msg

[zealous hatch]

or just highlight thhe text and hit the eye button

[lean ore]

yup

[tawny gazelle]

Show me where because I don't think they ever said they can pluck Joe blow off the street and make em an ascian

[indigo shale]

as all it is, is body jacking, raising someone to the seat is no different to an ascian taking someone over

[stray pewter]

I just feel so violated now, that was not a quest I will ever want to live through again

[rain onyx]

You can highlight and right click your text to surround it with spoiler tag

Or if on mobile, highlight and double tap.

[stray pewter]

I tried that on my phone it doesn't work

I had to put the ||

[zealous hatch]

what i want to know is who in eorzea decided to jack up the prices of teleporting

[kind lark]

||I hated the radz-at-han cutscene ||

[gaunt star]

||hopefully we learn more about the Ea, they interest me||

[tawny gazelle]

Another reason to level blue mage for aetheryte tickets

[stray pewter]

OMG yes the max it should be is 999

[rain onyx]

Sharlayans

[jovial kernel]

||so did emet-selch kno about us while following us in sb or only when helping us with elidibus?||

[glossy hemlock]

Ew that one was so disgusting too the sound 🤮

[hushed lodge]

||So the whole reason hermes snapped after meteion went genocidal is because he couldn't possibly deal with the thought of her being thrown away as a broken toy pretty much?||

[rain onyx]

I mean, they ARE the people who people are paying back the debts to about the aetherytes

[late aurora]

World’s going to crap, time to up the gas prices

[zealous hatch]

||emet didn't rememmber us until after we killed him||

[hollow ice]

the second one

[jovial kernel]

thought so

[glossy hemlock]

He did not know he just saw a potential to use us to regain his past

[kind lark]

||My mouth was wide open when ahewan got eaten||

[glossy hemlock]

It was literally so awful I physically recoiled

[hushed lodge]

oh

[kind lark]

I closed my eyes, it tops the scene in shb

[glossy hemlock]

LMAO

[hushed lodge]

||I thought yall meant when the beast chucked the woman into the river killing her||

[jovial kernel]

||well he did know we went to the past with him atleast with elidibus because he had died before||

[urban phoenix]

does nobody know the song at the end? or did they not release the soundtrack list yet?

[glossy hemlock]

Okay the scene in SHB with Vauthry? Just reminds me of the LOTR tomato scene

[static niche]

tomato scene?

[zealous hatch]

that part was fucked ||when she gripped her child as it killed her||

[kind lark]

Him eating the spoon/fork?

[gaunt star]

||god, that whole part was so brutal. Thank you lord for dragons||

[hushed lodge]

which song?

[tawny gazelle]

Prob the one with the credits starting

[glossy hemlock]

https://youtu.be/INoP-IwzmRA

[jovial kernel]

i wonder where we will go in the post expansion updates

[urban phoenix]

the song playing|| when you summon emet-selch and hytlodaeus and then the scions. its the same song that plays when you walk up alone the last part of the stairs||

[zealous hatch]

i want stories where we get to go to ||the world from the last dungeon||

[kind lark]

Team up with ||omicrons||

[glossy hemlock]

Lmao no

[karmic jetty]

Hey I have a question

[static niche]

i am at endwalker quest now. time to end it all. good bye cruel world!

[zealous hatch]

i want the ||omicrons to be a beast tribe||

[glossy hemlock]

They were so lame imo

[urban phoenix]

this song is so beautiful. i cant even continue the msq because im afraid of losing it

[kind lark]

||Omicrons?||

[static niche]

i'd rather have omega tbh

[karmic jetty]

Is endwalker going to be free or do I have to pay?

[jovial kernel]

im thinking maybe we go to ||meracydia|| if not in a new expansion

[zealous hatch]

pay

[tawny gazelle]

I'd take an ea tribe but it won't happen lol

[glossy hemlock]

Yeah i really prefer the ||ea||

[static niche]

endwalker is new expansion so yes u pay

[gaunt star]

endwalker is $40.

[glossy hemlock]

Bro are you trolling lmao of course you have to buy it to play it

[glossy hemlock]

LMAO

[gaunt star]

that would be cool. I would love that. ||and the Ea||

[kind lark]

Very cool pic

[civic basin]

I like how they ||handwaved going back to ultima thule after the end of the MSQ. Storywise it doesn't make much sense, but it's such a pretty zone why waste it??||

[indigo shale]

||the omicrons were like a mix of the daleks and cybermen from doctor who, similar backstories||

[jovial kernel]

they were my least favorite personally out of all the things we encountered there

[indigo shale]

||same with final zone of ShB, its only their for gameplay||

[urban phoenix]

dammit its to big to upload xD

[kind lark]

||I liked the whole robot becoming selfware type thing||

[indigo shale]

||i think the omicrons were the best there, the most interesting as it sheds more light on those who created omega, the ea were nothing, and we knew a bit of the dragons already||

[zealous hatch]

||i like how the lead robot made everyone call him "Sir"||

[karmic jetty]

Another than that, Thanksgiving food was bussin 😩

[real venture]

|| wait, can I get Emets mount? ||

[gaunt star]

||yeah, I really like both the omicron and the dragons story there and how they are connected, of course.||

[kind lark]

Middy! noooo!

[jovial kernel]

||did anyone else think it was kinda weird to bring yshtola to a place supposedly void of ether ||

[indigo shale]

||yeah ShB collectors edition||

[glossy hemlock]

Yeah it’s SHB Collector’s Edition item

[civic basin]

||Oh yeah wouldn't she technically be completely blind there||

[real venture]

bleh, so not anymore

[indigo shale]

you can

[glossy hemlock]

No you can still buy it lmao

[kind lark]

||I thought middy would've showed up on zone 6||

[real venture]

oh interesting

[static niche]

can't ||he's snoring very loudly||

[indigo shale]

||i doubt he would know where we are, we only got their because hydaelyn put a tracker on metion||

[zealous hatch]

||i was honestly surprised none of the scions died in the end||

[hushed lodge]

||tbh yshtola was kinda just there this expansion||

[urban phoenix]

nearly done

[kind lark]

True

[glossy hemlock]

Yeah and.. || tbh it kinda made me way less invested in the whole area because I knew they’d come back. Made it really cheap ||

[jovial kernel]

||i mean shes basically just fanservice to me at this point||

[indigo shale]

||if they never came back though it would defeat the whole purpose and message of the zone||

[hushed lodge]

||I mean considering the whole FF4 feeling.. yeah.||

[zealous hatch]

||even more so considering that Alphihaud spent the whole expac throwing up death flags||

[indigo shale]

||death flags dont exist, people jsut make up that term because anytime a character speaks must mean they are going to die||

[glossy hemlock]

I’m so sad that the Twins || didn’t turn to stone smfh || 😤

[gaunt star]

||lol when is she not||

[indigo shale]

after SB yshtola was a non character, she should not have survive that attack

[gaunt star]

||this here. I already knew they were gone for good (and the characters made it obvious there was a way for them to come back) it was more about keeping hope and not giving in to despair instead of it just being shock vaule||

[kind lark]

||So how many times has y'shtola dodged death?||

[civic basin]

||Would it though? The whole theme they beat us over the head with is to find hope in darkness and despair, to find the strength to keep going when you feel everything is lost. I think to have brought them back like that sorta cheapens it||

[urban phoenix]

alright so

[glossy hemlock]

You mean SHB???? She was incredibly important in SHB

[urban phoenix]

whats the title of the following song

||https://youtu.be/MGjwL7CsY3w||

[glossy hemlock]

We don’t know yet girl

[indigo shale]

||it was hope and not giving in to the darkness that bought them back||

[gaunt star]

||I honestly dont see how anyone would be disappointed or surprise that nobody died during that part. It was obivous, imo||

[jovial kernel]

||im glad they didnt kill anyone just to do it but at the same time its weird for the whole original crew to still be alive. Its funny when they do death flashbacks for dramatic effect and they can only pull to like 3 people almost all in heavensward||

[civic basin]

No one was surprised

[zealous hatch]

||i was hoping they would all just be dead, as a way to clean the slate for future stories||

[indigo shale]

||hydaelyn made it so we could bring them back||

[gaunt star]

||that would be terrible||

[urban phoenix]

what do you mean you dont know oO

[indigo shale]

||well they did clean the slate, the scions no longer exist||

[late aurora]

Oh you’re funny

[urban phoenix]

like they didnt release the track list yet or

[glossy hemlock]

https://youtu.be/FXYUjJrGMjA here is a similar song

[jovial kernel]

its sucks how long na has to wait for ff music to be listed on spotify

[zealous hatch]

this game was a 10/10 ||the second emet smiled at us||

[glossy hemlock]

|| https://youtu.be/qu4zS1fS23M || Here this is the song

[jovial kernel]

sb just got listed a few months ago

[gaunt star]

||I am sure we will get tons of new characters in the future, tho||

[zealous hatch]

||although i feel like they just didn't know what to do with Zenos for most of the story||

[urban phoenix]

so thats the title

[hushed lodge]

||I mean all of them are more or less on a shelf now.Aside from the twins and maybe Yshtola/G'raha(fanservice reasons) I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see any of them again||

[indigo shale]

||well thats because the original plan got fucked because fandan took zodiark, zenos was meant to, and he just didnt know what to do after that||

[gaunt star]

I feel like I am the only one that like Zenos this expansion. lmao

[urban phoenix]

well at least i can listen to it even if i finished that quest.....

[hushed lodge]

Zenos was great.

[jovial kernel]

||they should have killed zenos in the tower just to throw us off with both anima and him being taken out so early||

[indigo shale]

zenos was great, my favourite villain

[glossy hemlock]

I guess???

[hushed lodge]

He may not be super in depth but he really got an amazing sendoff

[urban phoenix]

anyroad i can listen to it, thats enough for now

[gaunt star]

||Zenos dont give a fuck and just wants to fight you and have a good time and I love that.||

[zealous hatch]

i just wish we had gotten to see more of him

[jovial kernel]

my favorite villain is the warrior of light

[gaunt star]

same

[kind lark]

Ascian spotted

[civic basin]

||The only time I liked Zenos was when he slit his own throat, and when I got to punch him in the face||

[glossy hemlock]

He means Elidibus

[hushed lodge]

||I was surprised for how much of the story he just wasn't around for. ||

[indigo shale]

||tbf, we were always on the move more so than usual, not like he could track us easily||

[jovial kernel]

||meteion did nothing wrong||

[gaunt star]

||Zenos got depressed when the WOL got busy and went away to limsa to reflect for a while. That's all.||

[urban phoenix]

bawling my eyes out here

[zealous hatch]

||Zenos just shows up in Garlemald, kills a blasphemy, immediately gets bored, gets roasted by Alisae, then fucks back off for 10 more hours||

[indigo shale]

||i like how fandan betraying him, forces him to have to reflect, because the whole plan just got fucked||

[hushed lodge]

||yeah. the genocides are just a minor screwup||

[zealous hatch]

||but that final fight was pretty sick||

[gaunt star]

||smh, Zenos just wasnt having his day this expansion..not until the end at aleast||

[glossy hemlock]

||It really was VERY fun and satisfying ||

[indigo shale]

||i was expecting footfalls to be the final trial theme, it being zenos's theme was quite a surprise||

[zealous hatch]

||i'm not usually a fan of solo duties but that one was fucking fun||

[gaunt star]

||its the best solo duty, imo. My favorite||

[jovial kernel]

||did anyone else think the hydaelyn fight was boring with mechanics||

[late aurora]

No

[zealous hatch]

i thought that fight was fun

[gaunt star]

uhh, it was fine..minus all the dying I did.

[kind lark]

All of the trials were fun imo

[zealous hatch]

||i liked that you could use trust for it too, for story purposes||

the dungeons and trials are so good in this one

[indigo shale]

||people complaining anima wasnt a trial, but what we got in the trials were a thousand times better than what anima could have been||

[zealous hatch]

||when zodiark was the first trial was when i accepted that i had no clue what was gonna happen in the story||

[gaunt star]

||at first I was really surprised and kind of disappointed but seeing the trials we did get...are like way better, imo||

[indigo shale]

||but anima being not a trial set the stage for the expansion, that we had no clue what was going to happen|| ||from that point||

[frozen shoal]

Can you use trusts for the dungeon after completing msq or do I need to level them up?

[late aurora]

Have to level just like ShB

[zealous hatch]

can't you just use scenario mode?

[indigo shale]

||i was expecting zenodiark to be the final trial at first, but seems i was way off||

[zealous hatch]

same

||well zenos was technically the final boss so half right||

[indigo shale]

||my idea was, moon would be final zone, fandaniel frees zodiark, zenos kills fandan, takes over zodiark and we fight to the death, hydaelyn shields us from the fallout and dies in the process saving the world, never did i expect all that happened instead||

[zealous hatch]

||ya i figured combined Zodiark + Zenos was the final boss||

[civic basin]

It was a pretty simple one honestly. ||Probably had to be in order work trusts into it||

[fallen wing]

What's the name of the Garlemald radio soundtrack?

[pulsar heron]

Just got 90k’d during the post 87 dungeon series of cutscenes, waiting in queue to get back in now. ||What a revelation of twists. Was really wishing we were able to know more about Azem/the Convocation and received more than I ever asked for. I had resolved to not getting anymore Ancients lore despite them being one of my favorite parts of ShB. Pandaemonium with Lahabrea will be incredible given the implications that it’s in the Underworld and we’ll get to meet the cleansed souls.. maybe as NPCs.|| Very hyped to finish the final part of this expansion when my queue finally lets me back in 2 hours after I dc’d 🥲

[indigo shale]

||"Home beyond the horizon" i think||

[cosmic cargo]

Anyone know if the new gear drops from the dungeons have been datamined?

[inner halo]

White Mage x Reaper =

[hollow ice]

did someone say bravely default

[split forum]

That class didn’t do anything reaper-ish from my memory

[inner halo]

Only Holly has that

[hollow ice]

also yeah that the typical white mage wand

heck theres wands like it in the artifact gear

er canes

[inner halo]

The deep shadow one?

[split forum]

Welp, now I’ve gone and remembered Ringabel’s alt outfit

[jade phoenix]

finished last night

man that was fantastic, might be my favorite one, can't wait to see what the raids and patches bring

[hollow ice]

perfect also fits with the greek theme

[split forum]

Indeed

[jade phoenix]

which new gear?

[inner halo]

Aside of that, the numbers been crunched down, but does that mean the tanks are still able to pull more?

[hollow ice]

most traditional white mage wants have a shape like that like the zodiak white mage cane is a good example

[zealous hatch]

ya tanks still pull fine

[cosmic cargo]

Dungeon drops, like armor and weapons

[dusky shoal]

damm this new gear looks sick guys

[hollow ice]

about the same think of it basically like 2 = 1 now

[split forum]

I thought Hydaelyn had the weapons, not Zodiark?

[inner halo]

Feels like our numbers is weak, but the result are the same

[hollow ice]

when am I getting my ringabel outfit SE but actually I did create a good alternative ig with some of the new leveling gear

[jade phoenix]

list of sources of new gear models if that's what you mean: || level 53 dungeon, level 55 dungeon, level 57 dungeon, tomestones, one glamour outfit from a sharlayan sidequest, one glamour outfit from the main quest, and one outfit from rare fates||

[kind lark]

Cool green lalafell

[jade phoenix]

@cosmic cargo

[hollow wraith]

it is so cool the new healer makes scifi noises and has lasers

[split forum]

It’s a dedicated ERP gearset

[jade phoenix]

oh speaking of white mage outfits, i made a new whm glam made up mostly of new endwalker items (boots, chestpiece, staff, circlet)

being able to wear capes for once is neat

speaking of tome stuff, all the new tome weapons are fuckin sick

[mellow spade]

What's a good way to get 600k xp at level 86? I dont want to run another dungeon

[indigo shale]

shB dailies

[jade phoenix]

fates, you'll need the levels for the mount speed and bicolor gemstone collectibles

[static niche]

90 msq dungeon last boss is creepy

[mellow spade]

where's a good place to hammer out fates?

[jade phoenix]

i know which place is level appropriate for you but i'm not sure if you're that far in the story

[static niche]

all of areas? you need to do 7 fates each area to unlock mount speed

[mellow spade]

send me a dm if you dont want to put it here

[static niche]

also fucking rip msq dungeon didn't give me any tank accessory

[jade phoenix]

but even the lowest level fates are like 100-200k

[jade phoenix]

||level 85-86 would be the right half of thavnair iirc||

||mare lamentorum fates would also probably give you a good amount of xp for your level||

[mellow spade]

Thanks!

[static niche]

oh jesus that's ||lot of meteion sisters.||

[zealous hatch]

do you get mount speed automatically or do you buy it from someone?

[static niche]

||why did she become sephiroth face||

[gaunt star]

welp, guess I am going to go do some more stuff in the last zone. Oh, no, its not an excuse to listen to the music some more or anything like that, lmao

[static niche]

you buy it from gemstone trader

[zealous hatch]

does mount speed affect flight speed?

[static niche]

no i don't think so

[kind lark]

Flight speed is max speed

[zealous hatch]

i thought so, doesn't that make mount speed kind of pointless?

[static niche]

i means yes but no.

[kind lark]

Something to collect i guess.

[static niche]

you are still restricted when onfoot mount even if you have flight unlocked.

[zealous hatch]

i guess but why would you not fly if you have flight unlocked

[static niche]

because city

[gaunt star]

||where do I unlock the extra dungeons||

[lethal acorn]

Did they ever explain why emet is the tank instead of venat in the trust?

[kind lark]

sharalyan i think

[zealous hatch]

sharlayan

[late aurora]

Because ||she’s|| the only healer

[gaunt star]

ah, alright. thanks

[jade phoenix]

one objective advantage that endwalker has over shadowbringers: ||imagine all the wacky shit you're gonna be able to get from the last zone as a fisher lmao||

[static niche]

can anyone explain why ||meteion sisters became sephiroth?||

[kind lark]

wdym?

[static niche]

look at ||herface!||

[zealous hatch]

||they got depressed||

[jade phoenix]

this expansion is filled with visual references

[kind lark]

I thought it was saddened face

[static niche]

but it's not supposed to be reference to ff7 since we had that last expansion

[kind lark]

?

[jade phoenix]

|| for instance hydaelyn's face and the ornaments in her hair is very reminiscent of cecil harvey || <-second trial spoilers

[late aurora]

It doesn’t have to be a reference

[mellow spade]

What was the ff7 reference in shb i forget

[zealous hatch]

what's the ff7 reference

[static niche]

emet-selch walking into fire

[kind lark]

oh you mean the weapons?

[static niche]

and weapons yes

[jade phoenix]

i mean there were ff7 references in stormblood too

[zealous hatch]

i don't really remember but i'll take your word for it

[wicked sage]

45 hours later, I beat the game. So fucking good.

[jade phoenix]

like the first boss of ala mhigo being ripped from ff7

[gaunt star]

I am guessing we going to get a FF4 themed boss raid maybe

[kind lark]

weapons were a straight up reference, faces are more a gesture i think

[real venture]

|| did we just cause this all by showing Hermes we are sad?? ||

[static niche]

this scene

[jade phoenix]

if we spend two years in this expansion without a remix of "within the giant" "into the darkness" or the battle of the four fiends i will riot

[zealous hatch]

no i mean i don't remember ff7

[static niche]

oh, sephiroth walked into fire in a flashback

[jade phoenix]

jokes aside we've gotten enough ff4 pandering this expansion for a lifetime so i'm satisfied ||always open to more tho||

[lean ore]

meanwhile forums crying ||Anima|| was a dungeon boss

[kind lark]

Let them cry

[jade phoenix]

i LOVE how misleading the trailers for endwalker were lmao

[lean ore]

"it broke my heart" pls

[static niche]

spoiler

[zealous hatch]

honestly ||anima|| was kind of bait tho

[real venture]

I wish there were more trials, but it being there was fine

[jade phoenix]

not a real ff10 fan because they wouldnt have any heart left to break after x-2

[kind lark]

The trailer has a few bait stuff in it

[hollow ice]

they do use most of the voice lines from the trailer

[static niche]

so basically can i ask question.
||is the fucking trial with endsinger taking place with US ON ZENOS'S BACK?||

[jade phoenix]

||another huge bait was having a voiceover from someone talking about how much they love zodiark and miss their paradise while fandandiel was on screen raising his arms up and yelling||

[lean ore]

|| yes ||

[zealous hatch]

when ||y'shtola said the thing from the trailer i fist pumped||

[kind lark]

Yep

[hollow ice]

||hes carrying us||

[static niche]

so this means we can expect ||shinryu mount yes?||

[kind lark]

|||Where we when we faced zenos 1v1? was it a spaced meteion created?||

[lean ore]

nope

[static niche]

[lean ore]

https://tenor.com/view/ffxiv-ff14-zenos-yae-galvus-zenos-garlean-gif-22099107

[zealous hatch]

i think it was just ||the leftover space we fought meteion on||

[kind lark]

||The platform?||

[jade phoenix]

man i really love the new tome gear, its making me wanna level everything

[zealous hatch]

||nah just the area inside the dead sun||

[jade phoenix]

i'd hate the tome gear if i was still a cat person though, everything's got a cape

actually maybe the caster/healer set doesnt clip with cat people

[wicked sage]

Last fight spoiler ||I'm honestly kind of upset Zenos was the final fight.||

[next quarry]

im happy I can say stuff like this with context

[kind lark]

Just want to say that radz at hans feels better than eulmore as a second city

[zealous hatch]

i've long accepted that my tail is going to clip through shit

[static niche]

this is hilarious, the area we're fighting on is called the final day

[jade phoenix]

just wait until you hear its actual songs

though i think a part of one of its songs was released on a in-dev trailer a while back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bUgi2pcmHg

crazy to think this was released 7 months ago now

[zealous hatch]

what's crazy is that they made all this despite the pandemic

[wicked sage]

Didn't it get pushed back by the panini though?

[kind lark]

The ultimate got pushed back

[static niche]

AGAIN?

[jade phoenix]

no

[kind lark]

no

[static niche]

[jade phoenix]

it's still 6.1, speaking of 6.1 i'm really curious about that pvp battlepass system

i hope they go hard on it and put all the old unused wintrader mounts on there

[turbid helm]

[hushed lodge]

eh. not exactly. ||Hermes was already kinda fucked up beforehand from the way he viewed the system. Meteion was supposed to keep him in check more or less but when she fell into despair from her journey he kinda snapped as well.||

[hardy wind]

WHAT THE FUUUUUCK ||We just killed Hydaelyn ||89 trial spoilers.

[static niche]

no you didnt

[humble heron]

||i mean we did though||

[static niche]

no we didn't. ||she overdrafted her power afterward to give us powers we need.||

[humble heron]

Sure

[late aurora]

We literally did

And we eat her ||rock||

[zealous hatch]

you're kind of splitting hairs there

[humble heron]

We definitely ||contributed to her death even if we didn't deal the final blow||

[real venture]

So if you don't do the Role quests, you become under leveled :/

[zealous hatch]

||like ya sure we didn't chop her head off but she died after fighting us||

[late aurora]

No?

[real venture]

I have hit that point

[humble heron]

I was underleveled doing nothing but msq

[zealous hatch]

i didn't do any side stuff other than aether currents and i was always over level

[real venture]

I didn't hit level 87 by the time I hit that quest

[wicked sage]

I was overleveled the entire time with just MSQ and blue quests.

[jade phoenix]

oh speaking of role quests i actually loved the healer one ||and i got to make fordola smile||

[real venture]

ok, do atheres afterwards, which are side content to me

[late aurora]

The hell they are

Flight is necessary

[wicked sage]

I wish I would've done more aether currents while roaming, but I was so hellbent on just finishing MSQ

[jade phoenix]

if i didnt wait on my aether currents i would already have the elephant suit

[vital brook]

So @deep wave what seems to be the issue?

you cant right click the baby?

[deep wave]

||Warm Hearts, rekindled hopes|| is the name of the quest, and basically before the cutscene triggered where ||the beast threw the child and the baby into the pool|| i went into the water and did the deep dive. And now I cannot interact with the baby

[vital brook]

Interact ||with the mother first||

[vital brook]

well thats wack, have ya tried resetting the quest?

[deep wave]

How can I do that? There is no abandon option

[vital brook]

Open the quest journal, abandon, then accept it again

[jade phoenix]

||he's right there grab him he's drowning 😱||

[midnight agate]

man that baby got some iron lungs

[deep wave]

😦

[vital brook]

well that's fucked

[muted saffron]

You gotta interact with the mom first

[humble heron]

He did

[midnight agate]

you can contact a GM they might fix it for ya

[vital brook]

Yeah use the Support Desk thingy

[humble heron]

@deep wave have you tried teleporting out and back into the area?

[hardy wind]

I had to do 4 extra quests to hit 89 after doing all aether current quests

[deep wave]

Ill give that a shot, just incase that doesnt work how can I get a GM?

[vital brook]

The in game support desk

[midnight agate]

i think you use the support desk you should see it when you hit "ESC"

but i can't check right now because im in a 4k que

[deep wave]

Yeah but there is no like "im stuck" option just a bug report which they said they cant respond to individually

[humble heron]

I mean its better than not, but i think a relog would fix the issue if teleporting doesnt

[jade phoenix]

that's a rough quest to not be able to progress

[deep wave]

relog

[humble heron]

Its just that relogging isnt super viable rn

[jade phoenix]

i would actually go level my fisher rather than enter the queue in his position lmao

[humble heron]

Gaba, did the tp thing not work?

[midnight agate]

https://support.na.square-enix.com/faqarticle.php?id=5382&la=1&kid=66293

[deep wave]

Im trying right now, i didnt attune to the aetherite yet

[humble heron]

Ah ok go to the one near the area

[deep wave]

I will try this thanks! first the tp thing

[midnight agate]

if that doesn't work go to a busy town and shout in chat for a gm you might get lucky

[humble heron]

Gms can and will be invisible so its not as crazy as it sounds

[deep wave]

Yeah TP was no dice, gonna try and get a GM

[humble heron]

Well i hope u get it sorted out

[deep wave]

Thanks! For future reference DO NOT DIVE INTO THE WATER BEFORE RESCUING THE BABY

[dusty wing]

any other 90 reapers?!

[split forum]

Sheesh

[humble heron]

Im 90 whm

[hollow ice]

I met a level 90 reaper on the second day in the 4th area

[midnight agate]

im a level 90 reaper also

[dusty wing]

BIG

[wicked sage]

I've literally only seen one Reaper and one Sage this entire xpac so far.

[split forum]

How?

[hollow ice]

do like any duty roulette

[midnight agate]

go Bozja you see them everywhere

[split forum]

I’ve had nothing but reapers in my stuff

[humble heron]

If you beelined msq you might not see rhe new stuff

[split forum]

Not sages so much

[dry meadow]

||What's the deal with the level 89 gear? We just get to take it? What gives?||

[humble heron]

They did this for shb too

[split forum]

Pretty much

[hollow ice]

Ive seen quite a few sages in raids/trials kardia themselves rip

[wicked sage]

||Yes, it's free||

[split forum]

Area 6 || We’re all gonna die, aren’t we? ||

[hollow ice]

||not with our attitude||

[midnight agate]

have yall seen the prices on dyes in the market Jesus

[split forum]

|| this really feels like them killing off the cast to start anew with the next story arc ||

[deep wave]

Thanks everyone! We'll see what happens. Ill keep ppl posted

[split forum]

No haven’t looked. How bad is it?

[midnight agate]

the decent to good dyes going for 100k or more just for 1 pot

But im sure it will go down when cross world is back up

[static niche]

i like how ||endsinger starts throwing tanturm in phase 3 like exdeath neo did||Trial 90 spoiler

[split forum]

The || Ea || are cute. || shame about their world, lol ||

[static niche]

i'm even more impressed that ||zenos was able to just endure her entire rampage from 100-0 without so much a complaint||

[midnight agate]

they really need to fix how queing works

[hollow ice]

nothings really broken about it, in fact its very efficient

[cinder bronze]

anyone know if there were any changes to eureka with 6.0, particularly hydatos?

[midnight agate]

not when you get the lobby error ever few mins

[real venture]

Read the news articles, lots is being done about it

[humble heron]

It would be in patch notes

[midnight agate]

and i just got the error now im back at 4k

[late aurora]

Welcome to the club, we’ve accepted it

[cinder bronze]

they've made stealth changes in the past that weren't in patch notes

[real venture]

right, not all fixes have been rolled out, and you are being comped atleast 7 days of playing time

[gaunt star]

god fuck this
im so mad
what happened to glare 2

[quick raptor]

the music in this area is so grim but i have been in gpose for 30 minutes dragging npcs around and having the time of my life

[gaunt star]

im still upset

[real venture]

Its a translation thing I think

[brisk quail]

Glare 2 in other languages that don't use the number system (aka japan) 2 is -ga

[faint wing]

Japanese went from Holy to Holyga instead of Holyra

[gaunt star]

[faint wing]

Which in English would be Holy III

[brisk quail]

So doing... glare to glarega would mean AoE

Which it isn't...

So... glare 3

[faint wing]

You're confusing yourself Ynn

[brisk quail]

I am. Halp

[faint wing]

2 is -ra, not -ga

Fire, Fira, Firaga, Firaja

Holy, Holyra, Holyga, Holyja

[sick pier]

well kind of

the weird thing about Holy III and Glare III is that we obviously didn't get the II versions

but that's because the spell is just that much more powerful

[faint wing]

Blame the Japanese version, shrug

[sick pier]

that's because Holy II and Glare II, I assume, would have been under the scrutinization of being exclusively AoE attacks

since Fire 2 and Blizzard 2 kind of set that up

[late aurora]

Except that’s not how white mage works

[faint wing]

Noooot really

[static niche]

no why didn't they show ||a close up of our fist connecting his face!?||

[sick pier]

yeah, for healers the spells are supposed to work differently

[late aurora]

White mage had stone 2 and aero 2 both single target

[sick pier]

but hey I'm not the translators lol

[faint wing]

The -ra spells being AoE is somethibg only Black Mage really does

[sick pier]

I'm surprised they still haven't gotten rid of Cure

and just made Cure > Cure II into a trait that upgrades it

[faint wing]

Hell even in classic Final Fantasy games -ra spells were just one tier higher spells

Most FF games, any spell could be AoE

[sick pier]

I think koji was talking about the spells in a panel for heavensward

where he really wanted to use the suffixes

instead of II, III, IV, V etc

[versed storm]

Some of the books in gubal normal even lampshades the spell naming

[static niche]

so i finished MSQ.
watching credit now.

[faint viper]

is everyone having the same experience of waiting in 4/5k user queues that just randomly time out after 30ish minutes for u to have to reboot the game and start over all over again? what an absolute shit show of a release

[tropic frigate]

I just beat the game

[dusk slate]

I haven't errored out in an hour

[faint viper]

like seriously wtf is happening lmao

[static niche]

no error for me either

[faint viper]

this is the 5th time

[dusk slate]

A new expansion just released today

[silver rock]

Been playing for pretty much the whole evening/day and not a single TO on the european server

[faint viper]

ive been kicked out of the queue and had to start over and its been like this since pre-release on friday

[tropic frigate]

I did get error 2002s but repeatedly logging in seems to keep my spot so i always get in

[static niche]

[dusk slate]

Skill issue

[faint viper]

unplayable garbo expansion

[dusk slate]

https://tenor.com/view/oops-shocked-seriously-omg-tremors3-gif-22329296

[tropic frigate]

Almost in

(I beat the game ysterday btw)

[deep wave]

Finally get in and start enjoying and got locked out of progress because of an esoteric glitched quest

I wonder what the queue for a GM is, cant be more than the queue to get in

[humble heron]

i mean i gotta be honest i logged in at 9am on saturday and got no queue i think the problem is everyone is logging on during peak

[plush cosmos]

anyone else's queue not moving?

i've been at 2934 for about 45min

[humble heron]

i feel for people who dont have that luxury, though

[unreal delta]

So uh. I believe i just reached the end of garlemald's msq and im in the last big custscene

||AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA||

[humble heron]

in from the cold?

[late aurora]

Victory Screech

[unreal delta]

||I think so? Fandaniel did this thing and well....zenos..||

[humble heron]

YEP

[unreal delta]

||no. This is fear. Pure unfiltered fear||

[humble heron]

ruru i hope you enjoy playing ||metal gear solid||

[unreal delta]

I've been fine at the other stealth missions everyone's been bitching about so I guess ill do fine for...whatever's ahead

[late aurora]

You say that now

[unreal delta]

im so fucking scared man

[humble heron]

well, enjoy

[unreal delta]

I don't wanna continue the cutscene. i don't wanna see it.

[humble heron]

haha feelings

[unreal delta]

Okay. I just want a simple yes or no answer from someone who's finished MSQ

[humble heron]

yes sir/ma'am/poohba

[unreal delta]

no explanation or anything else. just a yes or no

||Does fandaniel fucking die||

[humble heron]

thats gonna be a ||yes indeed||

[unreal delta]

||THANK. FUCK.||

[hollow ice]

||yes,yes,yes||

[static niche]

❤️

[humble heron]

bunby

[unreal delta]

ITS FUCKING TIMED

[static niche]

what is

[humble heron]

||soldier duty||

[unreal delta]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[static niche]

ahh...

[humble heron]

for what its worth, ruru, i got lost a little bit and still managed to beat it with 15 minutes left so the timer isnt your biggest issue

[static niche]

same here

[late aurora]

I had 8 minutes at the end, and I got seen a couple times

[midnight fossil]

Good luck Ruru!

[buoyant escarp]

does anyone know how to get back to ||that zone where you fight zenos at the end||? i want to take more screenshots there lmao

[jade relic]

Looks like a child getting lectured lol

[midnight fossil]

I wish that I could pose my companions a little better in gpose. 😦

[humble heron]

||you could try taking the portal and walking across the bridge again and seeing where thatll take you||

[static niche]

so you're saying ||cute bad, tataru also bad?||

[buoyant escarp]

ohhh i'll try that, thanks!

[static niche]

before you ask, aenor's one of the new brave recruited back in ARR who has a very strong interest in the roe brothers also part of the braves.

[dusk slate]

i remember her LOL

[late aurora]

She’s stuck between a Rock and another rock

[dusk slate]

she wishes she was anyway

[static niche]

indeed, and she says she'll suffer withdrawal

[humble heron]

@unreal delta just checking on you to make sure you are doing a-ok

[split forum]

In a way, the Omicron are responsible for Haurchefaunt’s death. Screw the Omicron

[humble heron]

???????????????????????????????????????

[static niche]

? it was archbishop

with or without dragons involved, he was gonna do that anyway cuz he wants absolute order.

[indigo shale]

i mean if you look at it like that, then it was also our fault he died

[static niche]

?

[stiff charm]

no, she absolutely is

[vital brook]

Endwalker... except you gotta actually walk, with these damn NPCs

[dusk slate]

wait, i must have missed something

[stiff charm]

her sister laid next to all 3 of them while on a mission

[indigo shale]

well if you can blame the omicrons, you can blame us, because we lead up to all the events of the vault, by chasing thordan, that wouldnt have happened if we didnt go to ishgard likely

[static niche]

[frozen shoal]

For the 3rd trial: ||Do you need to tank LB3 during the first set of countdown?||

[static niche]

yes, we used it too early and everyone but me and two healers who had my bensions still survived with low hp

[frozen shoal]

Oh sweet, I just saw countdown and panicked

[jade phoenix]

healer role quest spoilers

[static niche]

i carried that day

[indigo shale]

basically its such a far out reason, that its just super vague and meaningless is what im getting at

[jade phoenix]

||fordola actually becoming my friend was satisfying||

[static niche]

even without us, haurchefant would've tried to stop thordan from whatever he was doing.

[indigo shale]

we dont know that

[static niche]

we do know that, we've seen his character.

[frozen shoal]

This may be the first time I actually try to get specific orchestration rolls, some of these tracks are soo fucking good towards the end

[jade phoenix]

nah without us haurchefant would still be stuck in that remote ishgardian outposts watching his sweaty soldiers exercise

[split forum]

Without the dragons and their effect on the history of Ishgard, we don’t even have a Thordan to base the primal off of

[indigo shale]

and if anything its not the omicrons that caused the dragons to go to war with ishgard

the dragons and the original thordan did that, the omicrons was over 12k years ago and nidhogg and such werent even born, so what happened on dragonstar has no effect on them

[unreal delta]

BARELY FUCKING MADE IT

[humble heron]

same, tbh

[unreal delta]

BUT I DID IT....... OH GOD NO NOT THE CUTSCENE

[humble heron]

that duty certainly gets your heart pumping

[static niche]

yes suffer

[unreal delta]

[static niche]

i wonder how 90 trial ex will look

i means it's not like they'd keep the 3rd phase there right?

[humble heron]

you also have to fight ||shinryu||

[unreal delta]

ONONONONONONONO

[indigo shale]

i dont think theyll put that in the ex

[humble heron]

||zenos is gonna be like "this shit isnt canon i can do what i want" and pulls out a gun||

[static niche]

anyway you understand what i means for the phase right?

[humble heron]

yeye

[static niche]

i means they did that with ||exdeath neo and that one wasn't really idealistic end to the fight||

||we don't know if zenos died tho.||

[late aurora]

||Shinryu|| does his active time event every now and then just to screw with you

[indigo shale]

||even if hes alive he aint getting out of there||

[vivid notch]

and it's done

[static niche]

||how did he get here again? :)||

[humble heron]

congrats on wrapping, duck magician girl

[late aurora]

Nommed on ||mom crystals||

[indigo shale]

|| most likely i think the voidsent he made the pact with will claim his soul so the resonant wont allow him to live||

[static niche]

||and said crystals was enough for the round trip, why can't zenos get back with what's left lmao||

nope cuz i don't ever know songs

[jade phoenix]

yeah it was awesome, the way it slowly evolved throughout the zone was cool too

i'm gonna miss the fragmented versions of the song tbh

[humble heron]

@buoyant escarpdid what i suggest end up working?

[buoyant escarp]

on my way to try it now. i'll let you know what happens

[humble heron]

cool cool

depending on how you interpret it ||ultima thule might not have even existed as like a place until thancred got yeeted and wished for the scions to survive, therefore willing it into existance||

[indigo shale]

||well possible, if metion didnt say it existed to always fuel dynamis, she kept the shades for eternal despair, it was there before thancred did anything||

||the only thing metion said thancred did was make the atmosphere liveable||

[violet maple]

Nooo, dammit

[humble heron]

sorry koji and me are friends on myspace and he told me its nothing but rocks

[static niche]

YOU DON'T WANT TO BE PELTED WITH ROCKS?

[hushed hill]

Do any other dps feel like they're constantly ripping agro from tanks now? Not sure if reaper dps is insanely high or tanks agro got nerfed or what but even after giving them what should be plenty of time in single and multi pulls I end up pulling agro a lot at some stages.

[static niche]

the tank sucks

[hushed hill]

Its not just a one off thing though I've had maybe one or two I havent had issues with out of like 20 runs, maybe a lot of ex players coming back I guess?

[static niche]

yes and no, the tanks sucks.

[violet maple]

What I'm curious about is did they mention ||dynamis|| before endwalker, the closest I can think of was lost city where they i could of sworn that someone there mentioned aether and emotion were linked

[static niche]

they need to git gud 🙂

[hushed hill]

||Yeah it feels like quite the deus ex machina so far and im not liking it ||

[violet maple]

Oh, and maybe during omega, where omega was confused about what drove you to surpass limits

[indigo shale]

||nah only venat and fandaniel would know about dynamis at any time, actually not even fandaniel, only venat, and then us when we went back as us 2 didnt get memory wiped||

[unreal delta]

me rn

[buoyant escarp]

@humble heron sadly it just leads to the dungeon

[hushed hill]

True

[humble heron]

then you might only be able to do it in ng+ whenever that happens

[static niche]

you couldn't revisit the final steps of faith afterward either so yeah, only when it happens

but you can exit the actual area before triggering the duty and come back

[buoyant escarp]

yeah someday ™️
thanks still!

[violet maple]

||Omega seems to be possible foreshadowing of dynamis' existence since that whole arc was about omega trying to find out what drives you||

[humble heron]

cars drive us

[static niche]

this is true

[indigo shale]

on a side note, ||i like how the expansion ends like most others, with elidibus monologuing ||

[frozen shoal]

That last solo instance was super fun, wish every solo instance was like that in terms of mechanics

[split forum]

Can we just romance Graha already? Mans is clearly herosexual

[wicked sage]

He's warrior of light sexual.

[gaunt star]

That moment at the very beginning where ||estinien makes that Oh shit face when he tries to make up his new profession made me lose my shit ||

[violet maple]

||and Midgardsomr did say that our planet was the last bastion of hope, I'm pretty certain during Heavensward, but at the time, we did not know what exactly he meant||

[prisma temple]

|| Estinien is literally a NEET. ||

[frozen shoal]

Thinking about it yeah lol

[gaunt star]

I know, but it was just so damn ||funny ||

[frozen shoal]

||The first time we see hien was at the end during credits lmao||

[gaunt star]

Wish I could read that... alas

Whole week doing ShB was worth it for what there is so far

[wicked sage]

||He shows up for role quests as well.||

[frozen shoal]

I feel gutted, ||was waiting on him to show up since he's one my favorite from SB||

[winter coral]

||i was actually not happy that graha didn't die in 5.3 and I thought it was weird and out of place for him and estinien to become scions but after seeing what they become in endwalker I see why they were added to the scions, they were great||

[frozen shoal]

Which one? I haven't done any role quests so far lol

[static niche]

i think they should change the name for 89 trial ex

[wicked sage]

||Physical ranged||

[static niche]

||From Hydaelyn's Call to Hydaelyn's Love cuz u know...||

[indigo shale]

so nothing new, all expansions are lots of walking till you can fly

[frozen shoal]

The worst follow mission was the one at radz at han since you can't use aetherytes, the others I liked for the immersion

[gaunt star]

As always xP
At least this ain't wow

[indigo shale]

||whats wrong with lyse||

[gaunt star]

Me wanting to click the black spoilers

[frozen shoal]

||Phlegma||

[gaunt star]

Haha

[indigo shale]

because most people ||who seem to not like that character, just ignored everything that happened in SB and make up shit that that character never did||

[gaunt star]

Tbh, I wish I could experience this expa with the lvl 90 war gloves and boots to replace my old shit... hate that I need Endwalker quest done for it 😭

[frozen shoal]

||Makes sense considering her relationship with the scions tho it was weird to see her on the Frontlines when no other leader was present||

[winter coral]

based and true

[jade phoenix]

role quests

[frozen shoal]

||Ye, that's physical ranged tho and I went tank so it was the first time I saw him. Does he have a prominent role or just like a short cameo?||

[vital brook]

OwO

[hardy wind]

Finally!

[wicked sage]

||He's the main guy for the quests||

[wicked sage]

Grats!

[frozen shoal]

||Sweet, thought it would be the delegate||

[jade phoenix]

||every role quest this time has important characters in it, healer starred raubahn, fordola and arenvald and even had a quest where you walked with raubahn around uldah||

[late aurora]

Tank quest is ||team gridania||

[indigo shale]

i should check out the role quests, i have yet to do that

[jade phoenix]

theyre good

[indigo shale]

end spoiler, ||for some reason i was expecting elidibus to be shown as a male viera in the post credit CS, just the way they framed it to not show his full face||

[vital brook]

i got called something nice

[wicked sage]

I sadly am too poor to get the pizza emote ;-;

It only last until the 9th too, right?

[humble heron]

15th

the 9th thing is for the free delivery

[wicked sage]

Oh, maybe I still can then.

[hardy wind]

the 9th is my aniversary. Think the wife will like pizza?

[humble heron]

also it starts on the 9th

[wicked sage]

I thought it already started?

[humble heron]

no

[violet maple]

Tfw if I want to go through 6.0 again I'll have to make a new character

[inner halo]

I got queue 4k:

[humble heron]

Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 4:30 p.m. to Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 8:59 p.m. (PST)

[violet maple]

No ng+ sadge

[hardy wind]

Has anyone tried out the new 3d spacial sound yet?

[humble heron]

my fc mates have and they liked it

[tiny wind]

finished it and it topped everything 🥲

[hardy wind]

omg starfall dance hits so hard

[wicked sage]

Right? It's like a mini LB

[obsidian lake]

From where do I buy moonward gear?

[hardy wind]

Thou dost buy thine moonward gear from tine friend Cihanti in Radz-at-Han

[winter coral]

the WHAT

👀

[obsidian lake]

Thx

[hot idol]

any one can provide me where i can find about the emergency maint patch notice on the SE site plz ?

[winter coral]

||I think I can imagine where it might be lol|| im totally gonna farm that though

[wicked sage]

Is there a new dancer rotation guide anywhere? I know for sure I'm not doing it right anymore.

[hot idol]

try the dummy and see how you can figure out the new skills

[winter coral]

the balance discord has pretty detailed guides already

i was surprised they had so much detail on reaper, like potion optimizations already n stuff

[wicked sage]

It's amazing how adding just 3 abilities changes the rotation completely (I think).

[hardy wind]

It just adds more to do during your Tstep/devilment window. Only 2 are GCD. One is oGCD

[wicked sage]

So it's still the same rotation then?

[hardy wind]

pretty much except now you never use windmill or bloodshower in single target

What is ||┣┨̈//̈ No┨ΦounΔ•••|| supposed to mean? Final zone spoilers

[next quarry]

||no sound||

i think

[humble heron]

you should tag spoilers

[late aurora]

||Greek letters|| are wacky aren’t they

[hollow ice]

||considering its a phi? maybe H something and then not found||

[deft locust]

||hope not found|| most likely

[frozen shoal]

||Oh damn, pandemonium is gonna be elidibus and lahabrea? Lahabrea is gonna be hit af isn't he||

[urban phoenix]

can someone send me to 6.0 eulmore?

[hollow ice]

|| ||

[graceful dune]

aw man, I accidentally spoiled myself a little about some of EW's content and turns out that|| Anima is just a dungeon boss and not a trial.||
I gotta say I'm really dissapointed.
like, seriously you ||made ANIMA just a Dungeon boss?!||

[humble heron]

i mean

all i will say is wait until you see some of the trials and you might understand more

[ruby loom]

trust me, you won't be disappointed in hindsight

[graceful dune]

ehhh, I'm not sure about that

[hardy wind]

the 3 trials are all huge trials. There is no disapointment

[ruby loom]

I was the same as you, but I'm serious that after experiencing them I wasn't anymore

[late aurora]

||Anima|| is plot important too

Unlike the ||magus sisters ||

[hollow ice]

tbf ||its just anima, hes neat but idk where this sudden emergence of people liking him came from||

[humble heron]

i mean people like ff10

[ruby loom]

yeah (entire 6.0 MSQ) ||it's funny how they jebaited us on pretty much everything we saw before release||

[late aurora]

Also ||anima|| is RAD

[wicked sage]

I'm glad they did though honestly.

[ruby loom]

me too

[late aurora]

Sucks you underground and does a punch fiesta

[vital brook]

She kinda looks like a doll

[humble heron]

i especially like the track in ||garlemald that plays on the radio||

[hardy wind]

the music for when ||venat becomes hydaelyn|| is the best track in the game. I want to know what it was so I can listen to it again.

[late aurora]

Oh man the ||radio||, never would I have thought

[wicked sage]

I loved the ||radio|| so much

[split forum]

Welp, got the quest named after the expansion, almost done

[indigo shale]

soken outdid himself this expansion

[wicked sage]

Favorite of the themes.

[ruby loom]

good luck and enjoy the rest of the ride

[wicked sage]

Enjoy the rest 🙂

[humble heron]

yeah i uh

[indigo shale]

hehe, i mad the mistake of non stop playing for 48 hours on EA launch

[humble heron]

dont regret going to bed before starting zone 6

[wicked sage]

I could've beaten it yesterday if I didn't have to go pick my girlfriend up from work at 3pm. I decided to just not get back on due to queue time.

[split forum]

There a are people with Argos mounts and Endwalker titles just hanging out here at the spot for the (I assume) last dungeon

[winter coral]

i had to take a day to just process after I beat it

[wicked sage]

Time spent playing:

1st day - 18 hours
2nd - 12
3rd - 12
4th - 3
today - 3

[humble heron]

i put on the spoiler glam and go shitpost in zone 5 entrance sometimes

[winter coral]

it is kinda funny how you can just ||put on your robes and ride argos and become a walking spoiler||

[humble heron]

zone 5 spoilers ||did you know the robes have physics and will move in a natural sense if you dance in them?||

[urban phoenix]

sorry but can someone please tell me where the hub this time is?

[hollow ice]

throw in a few minions and maybe even start challenging people with spoilery cards in your triple triad deck and you are spoiler man man of spoilers

[ruby loom]

||sharlayan and radz-at-han||

[split forum]

Zone 5 || can you put the hood up with /visor ? I’m a viera, so I can’t try. ||

[hollow ice]

||old sharlayan the normal hub, and radz at han for the tomestone stuff||

[late aurora]

No

[split forum]

Booooo

[spiral warren]

alright which trial has the most banger track

[indigo shale]

yes

[urban phoenix]

thanks

[ruby loom]

final one

[split forum]

89

[hardy wind]

||Where do you get argos?||

[spiral warren]

I need some wakeup music

[late aurora]

Visors only work with head gear

[compact wedge]

i like the 89 one

[indigo shale]

all the tracks are good, but i prefer the 83 music

[winter coral]

||last phase last trial gave me the goosiest bumps||

[wicked sage]

||Beat the game||

[humble heron]

im down for some more ||beef tacos|| so i like 90 trial, if you know, you know

[winter coral]

||hearing the WoL theme motif mixed with the main theme and the guitar was absolutely insane, truly gave me the power of friendship||

[late aurora]

I have a hankering for ||Wyrm tails|| myself

[errant perch]

||god that last zone legit made me despair hard. I wanted to ugly cry but my chest hurt too much to do so||

[hardy wind]

Does anyone know the name of the theme when ||Venat turns into hydaelyn|| or anywhere I could watch it on youtube or listen to the song?

[ruby loom]

||yeah, it's really hard to not get wet eyes at least||

[ruby loom]

gimme a sec I'll send you a link

[errant perch]

||man when graha got got...||

||up until they appeared again I was so worried that they were permanently gone. I legit got out of my chair and cheered when they all came back||

[indigo shale]

||them coming back was the most predictable part of the whole final zone, we had azems magic there was about a 0% chance they werent coming back imo ||

[errant perch]

||ya they even mentioned it multiple times. But given ffxiv, you would never know 100% that they would all come back in one piece||

[hushed lodge]

||not really a trial but the training session with Venat would be my vot||e

[ruby loom]

||that's true. However, all the death flag teasing and the heavy focus on the relationship with the scions definitely made their sacrifices hit home even though they weren't actually dead in the end||

[indigo shale]

||the fact that they focused on the relationship meant they had no chance on dying, death flags dont exist||

[hushed lodge]

||I mean Thancred just being gone kinda had me worried but after Urianger I was like yeah they'll be fine||

[solid steeple]

Do the final cutscenes last an hour I need to know

[amber river]

||I thought they might keep them dead a la infinity war and bring them back in patches. Would not have worked in the story they were telling. ||

[errant perch]

||with all the twists in the story. you never really knew what would happen next||

[ruby loom]

that's why I wrote teasing

[wicked sage]

Honestly, about an hour, yes.

[solid steeple]

SHIT

[jade relic]

|| I just realised that in the final trial when you lb3 she says “Dynamis? No matter”, sort of retroactively confirming that exceeding your limits is because of dynamis. Really cool detail ||

[solid steeple]

I just beat the final trial and am on the cutscene with ||Zenos||

[lone pendant]

||I kind of already knew the second i saw dynamis was the same color as the limit bar||

[errant perch]

||that zenos fight is crazy. That fistfight at the end...||

[solid steeple]

Do I have time??

[lone pendant]

||LIQUIIIIIID
SNAAAAAAKE||

[jade relic]

I believe so

[errant perch]

||that mocap was great||

[wicked sage]

||It took me about 2 hours total from the walking up the stairs before the first dungeon to after Zenos if that gives any indication||

[solid steeple]

Are you kidding me

Why couldn't wait till tomorrow for maintenance??????

[ruby loom]

I mean it's 5 am in central europe and noon in japan already

[maiden idol]

and here I was hoping Off Hand slot would be positioned under Main Hand in 6.0

[solid steeple]

I just got to the thing that says it's time to fight ||Zenos|| should I stop here?

[maiden idol]

given belts were removed

[solid steeple]

Will I log back in and into this area?

[ruby loom]

probably? not sure. I think so cause ||you need to be solo in there to start the duty||

[maiden idol]

and why is reaper a melee dps? should have been a ranged dps tbh

[hollow ice]

zone 6 literally has a ||conflict between suicide purists wanting bodies to die|| damn

[hollow ice]

do you scythe people from afar?

[maiden idol]

sigh

[solid steeple]

Can someone please answer me I need to know if I will load back into this area

[maiden idol]

akin to dancer, no?

[indigo shale]

usually you log back into where you were logged out, so i dont think itll be any different this time

[hollow ice]

no? how would you throw around a scythe like that

or rather why would you when its a scythe

[maiden idol]

so for any ranged dps, there must be projectile sort of attack?

[late aurora]

That’s what ranged means

Bow, gun, chakrams

[hollow ice]

thats the whole premise of range physical, its physical objects being used to attack from affar
arrows, bullets, and throwing chakrams

[hardy wind]

||Holy shit, they killed off all the scions. yoship is a madman||

[hollow ice]

||and hell do it again too maybe idk||

[errant perch]

||idk if my heart could take it again.||

[gaunt star]

end msq ||maybe for real this time kekw||

[hushed oar]

(very end spoiler) || i hope we get to see a happy blue birb again in the patches ||

[errant perch]

||I get why but man im sad that the scions are breaking up||

[hushed oar]

^ we will || still see them a bunch probably , but i do wonder who the new squad will be, guess itll be who we find out about the 12 with||

oh and || 100% they are guna atleast keep alphi and alisae with us ||

[unreal delta]

||The time has come...I will put an end to this||

[errant perch]

||man I dont want a new squad. Hope at least graha stays though considering the promise. Ill be happy with at least him||

[humble heron]

@unreal delta i know you are going to absolutely hate me, but i would personally recommend wanting until after maint for that bit

[unreal delta]

maint ends at 3 am for me........

[humble heron]

Yeh same lol

But i mean its a nice sequence and id personally rather wait and do it with all the time in the world even if that meant waiting till tomorrow but you can do whatever

[unreal delta]

ill see if i can convince my body to wake up in the morning and go to sleep early

also

||Diamonds strewn across a raven gown...||

[errant perch]

||its really hard not to make moonbase alpha references on the moon||

[hushed oar]

also at the end i feel like they || forgot to have arenvald show up ||

[hardy wind]

||omg, the walk up to meteion when all the spirits were talking. I knew the last one was gonna be emet, but was not prepared for the feels. I'm straight up crying right now.||

[gaunt star]

next expansion just you and g'raha traveling the world

[hushed oar]

i didnt quite remember every voice actor which was kind of annoying, kind of wish it had their names above the text

[mental spear]

I've heard from some that Bozja might actually be decent leveling even past 80 but haven't had the opportunity to jump in. Does it continue to scale?

[errant perch]

one can dream

[stiff charm]

||the last one was ardbert ||

[glad maple]

Wtffff || I did not expect to fight zodiark so soon!! ||

|| I thought he was gonna be story final boss but I’m in level 83 quest and I’m fighting him ||

[hardy wind]

oops lol

[errant perch]

||I also didnt quite remember all the voice actors. But the quotes sounded really familiar and still brought the feels||

[winter coral]

||i rly hope 6.1 is our long overdue adventure with graha||

[lapis trench]

What's the spawn trigger for the ||Omicron Recall: Killing Order|| fate in ||Ultima Thule|| (zone 6)?

[hushed oar]

good reward from that fate?

[steady estuary]

I never thought they could have outdone the ShB ending. But Endwalker was an amazing end to an 11 year journey.

[lapis trench]

||tv mount||

[tidal mauve]

did they make dungeon instances p2p or something

i was lagging every 3 seconds in a dungeon and then everything was fine when i got out

[hushed oar]

ye i think people will vote it down a little bit because its not going to have big streamer || crying reactions|| but the || moenbryda parents scenes murdered my soul ||

[tidal mauve]

what the fuck is a pst, when will they stop using annoying american timezones

[split forum]

Last dungeon spoilers || so if I’m reading these right, Meteion’s arrival basically incited the world’s end whenever she went somewhere. ||

[hearty ravine]

When is that?

[hardy wind]

gmt-8

[hushed oar]

@hearty ravine um like 88 when you are || doing the final prep for the engines and just walking around talking to the scientists and helping, her parents are scientists working on the ship ||

[split forum]

🇺🇸 Murica time best time 🇺🇲

[ruby loom]

||only afterwards. The last world in the dungeon, one of her sisters who visited it actually was defiant to the despair of the people there and kept on asking for a better answer, hoping to bring joy to hermes. But even she eventually lost all that hope. Ultimately connecting to the shared consciousness again is what triggered worlds where others were to die, as the collective despair of shitty worlds overloaded her||

[steady estuary]

The EU post gives EU times. If you are playing on NA server suck it up and learn NA timezones 🙂

[ruby loom]

or just google it

[hushed oar]

@hearty ravine https://gyazo.com/99745a0fc294f02fc77e33a2c4836d5a this part honestly get chocked up just checking my screenshot of it

[tidal mauve]

i will not use timezones from a barbarian country that gets people killed every year because they have to set their clocks one hour back and forth for no reason

[untold stratus]

Currently at a point in the story where is slowed down to the point I fell asleep

[winter prism]

||I hope we get to keep the ragnarok.||

[ruby loom]

post credits ||well, it is canonically used to go back to UT for the Stigmascape dungeon||

[hushed oar]

we || do, but i doubt we will use it really, just like our gundam ||

[untold stratus]

So yeah the point in the story I’m currently at is ||Elpis||

If I’m being honest it’s a ZZZ

[pine patrol]

||Elpis ||is loredump yeah. but it gets good at the end

[hushed oar]

thats where the game really got into the swing of it for me, the rest was good but from there on its only up

[hardy wind]

holy shit did ||emet just lore dump the next few expanions on us?|| end game spoiler

[split forum]

Last Trial spoiler || why is endsinger’s design familiar? I think there’s some mythological figure I can’t remember that’s a woman’s head on bird wings like her ||

[split forum]

Maybe

[ruby loom]

yup and it's absolutely amazing. gotta love the FFXIV team for that

[pine patrol]

the other slow and awful part after that is ||rabbit fetch quests in Sharlayan||