retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[split forum]

The moon absolutely is haunted tho

[gusty quiver]

He just looks weird

All the character have that uncanny valley thing going on in the cinematic

[hollow ice]

fully rendered face hair

[cedar portal]

Where's this code we early access people have to enter to keep playing tomorrow?

[split forum]

Wtf. I can’t find where my role quest went.

[gusty quiver]

ACT won't hook ffxiv reeeee

[fickle star]

Why is everyone spoilering everything isn't this the channel to discuss spoilers fot ew

[split forum]

Still spoilering for different sections of the game to be nice

[gusty quiver]

Because if you accidentally click on this channel it's nice to not OOPSIES SPOILED THE ENDING WITH TWO WORDS

[hollow ice]

appareantly this is the one where you need to tag it but theres a non tag necessary one in #916247709462200390

[cedar portal]

Because Moon's Haunted.

[gusty quiver]

Im not clicking that

[fickle star]

Oh I see

[late aurora]

Some person could just waltz in and see the trial boss names if we didn’t

[hollow ice]

I didnt want you to?

[fickle star]

Either way I just finished the msq and omg I was not ready for that finale

[gusty quiver]

chill

[hollow ice]

?????

[rancid isle]

What does the neutral sect in Astro's patchnotes mean? Just the normal Astro without any sect active?

[fickle star]

There's an NSFW warning on this channel people can't just accidentally see stuff

[civic basin]

Spoilers for 86 ||Does anyone know if we can get the remix of Flow when you spar with Venat on an orchestrion roll?||

[late aurora]

You say that

[tulip geyser]

Neutral Sect is an action that allows your healing to shield for a bit

[hollow ice]

neutral was a button that combined the effects of both sects together

[rancid isle]

Huh... Is it on by default now or is it a skill I need to activate? I tried looking for it on the skill tab but didn't find one.

[split forum]

Does anybody know where the 89 caster role quest starts? I cannot find it

[tulip geyser]

Yeah gotta press

[hollow ice]

its like your full power cooldown

[fickle star]

So for those who finished msq did ew top shb?

[civic basin]

It was good, but it did not top ShB for me

But it was very good, and I have thoroughly enjoyed myself

[rancid isle]

Where is it in Action&traits, then? I genuinely can't find it lol.

[split forum]

In the pause menu

[late aurora]

Same place you’ve been going, strategy room in Ishgard

[split forum]

Oh, I’ve been looking on the normal map for it

[fickle star]

I'm thoroughly satisfied with the expansion but I honestly can't say if it beat shb or not because of recency bias

[split forum]

I’m at 88 so far and I like ShB better

[rancid isle]

Ah?

[hollow ice]

im at 89 and I like this more

[next quarry]

I finished it and I like it more

[fickle star]

I will say SHB did feel like it was firing on all cylinders all the time but EW has s lot more build up and a huge pay off

It's really close and they're both really good

[humble heron]

Ew definitely has some pacing issues but it makes up for it by being batshit insane

[fickle star]

Oh mate EW is a roller coaster

[hollow ice]

for me shb felt like it had some really awkwardly slow spots in its story

[civic basin]

Yeah there were some pacing issues and I think ShB had a better antagonist

[next quarry]

The only time I felt like it was stagnant was level 85 quests

[fickle star]

SHB did have a better antagonist

Emet is hard to top

[split forum]

I think this is what it is for me, having Emet Selch around the whole time and involved felt better to me

[north fulcrum]

EW tackled better concepts (nihilism) than ShB did, imo, so I enjoyed it more

[next quarry]

||EW makes ShB's antagonist better so I like EW more in that regard||

[civic basin]

Yeah

[fickle star]

But EWs antagonist is a very different type of antagonist as well, it's very tragic

[steep pulsar]

laughs in pld face tanking everything

[fickle star]

Laughs in DRK mitigation

[civic basin]

||I also felt like Hermes was a little too much like an angsty teenager||

[cedar portal]

PLDs unite! Shield wall!

[next quarry]

I was playing dragoon and 1 aoe from him almost one shot me

[brisk quail]

laughs in too many free regens
laughs in 3 more instant ranged attacks
laughs in hallowed ground
laughs in free heals on magic burst

[fickle star]

Pretty sure he was young by ancient standards

[north silo]

||Anima is a whole 4 player trial||

[cedar portal]

PLD got so much boosting I'm afraid of the nerf bat in coming patches...

[steep pulsar]

same

[fickle star]

The scale of EW os just that big

[civic basin]

I'm gonna enjoy it while I can

[fickle star]

Muscle memory messes up my drk rotations a lot too

[coarse pond]

I can smell the powercreep in lore up to the roof

[civic basin]

Yeah I still gotta constantly remind myself not to override with goring

[fickle star]

I mean by the end of arr wol was a god killer you much more powercreep do you want

[civic basin]

And sometimes I'm even staring at the DoT icon on the boss, and I'll still override it because I'm dumb lol

[rigid sapphire]

Pro tip for the 5th zone..... || mute the music and play Corridors of Time on loop. it slaps in there ||

[static niche]

are you shtting me. 87 dungeon gave me two chokers for tank, that I ALREADY HAD

[rare sinew]

Azem ||so why DIDN'T we join either side's summoning||

[fickle star]

Because we're already there

[hollow ice]

Azem probably: ||"Summoning?!?!?||

[civic basin]

Maybe they'll explore that in the alliance raid?

[fickle star]

Can't summon what's not absent heh

[civic basin]

||I really wanted to them to explore more of who unsundered Azem was, and what they were like||

[viral herald]

what do you buy w the new tomes? hit 90 but not done w msq yet wondering if i should do like a couple daily roulettes as i go along w msq or just leave it til im done?

[civic basin]

There's tomestone gear at Radz

[fickle star]

Ohhh

[viral herald]

ahh cool colol ty

[fickle star]

Does it look nice?

[civic basin]

I like the tank gear, I do not like the caster sets lol

Tank gear is WoL armor I think

[fickle star]

Man EW made me like Utianger a LOT

[civic basin]

Caster sets might look nice on female characters, but on my male midlander it was horrifying

[fickle star]

Lool

[slate ridge]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GET8ax8uWXk is this the theme associated with villains in general? this played at one point when you encounter fourchenault in labyrinthos||

[jolly sierra]

i dont like the caster set tbh

[fickle star]

It's associated with tease situations

[civic basin]

Yup, I totally understand

[jolly sierra]

and i play a female character

[fickle star]

Tense

[static niche]

so i didn't get anything for tank from 87 beside the two chokers, all i got from it was a pity gift of an earring. FUCK THAT RNG

[fickle star]

Lool

[dusk slate]

i might need to replay the endwalker msq. i kind of rushed through it so i didn't get spoiled and got lost around the level 84+ msq

[fickle star]

I wonder what they'll do for the next plot line

[jolly sierra]

i didnt upgrade my right side until like 87

[static niche]

they already teased it at the end i heard

[fickle star]

I'm doing the wrap up end bits as we speak so I guess I'll see

[jolly sierra]

i didnt upgrade my left side until af gear

[fickle star]

I didn't upgrade any gear till like level 87 lol

End game gear is too strong

[tame ingot]

thank you very much!

[woeful dagger]

np

[rare sinew]

Is AF or tome gear better?

[neon wing]

I just abstained from any ff related media

Including this channel

[jolly sierra]

tome

[rare sinew]

Aite. Thanks

[hollow ice]

this expansions bosses (majors spoilers): ||Woops all Hermes||

[fickle star]

Looool

You're out of line but you're right

[neon wing]

After finishing 6.0 ||I have not the slightest idea what is the 6.1 story gonna be||

[fickle star]

Same, no clue

[hollow ice]

obviously ||hey you you're finally awake||

[fickle star]

Loool imagine

[neon wing]

Also, I did all the aether current quests and almost all role quests while levelling and still lacked a few hundred thousand xp for taking the lvl 89 quest

[fickle star]

I never lacked xp

Clearly you didn't eat your eggs

[neon wing]

But since I also fully explored all zones after getting flight, I got it finishing the current zone exploration

[fickle star]

I always go unlock flight after msq

[hollow ice]

I had to do a dungeon and trial roulette to get to 89

[rare sinew]

Single trust for me.

[fickle star]

Feels more natural than oh no impending doom time to find aether currents

[olive spruce]

shit

it's been a while since I haven't cried playing a game

[rare sinew]

I also did one or two fates otw. Like if i get caught up

[fickle star]

Did you guys not do any fates on the way to quests or eat food while questing or nothing?

[hollow ice]

I did some fates

[fickle star]

I was never walled off

[limber apex]

where do i get 560 accessories/

[neon wing]

One of my favorite parts was multiple people doing the same "summon some mobs and kill" objective, so everyone just spams AoE skills

[fickle star]

And I didn't do all the aether quests nor did I do the role quests

[neon wing]

Always found fates underwhelming, also I have no idea how to get the xp buff for them

[fickle star]

It's random by fate

[neon wing]

No I saw it on players

[fickle star]

That's for killing forlorn maiden

She shows up randomly in fates too.

[hollow ice]

||yshtola just hairflipped hydaelynn||89 spoils major

[fickle star]

And you may say underwhelming but clearly they make a difference if you were short on exp eh?

[hollow ice]

tbf in the end I didnt need it

[neon wing]

Well, most of the time following just the msq is fine

[errant mortar]

where do you grab lvl 90 af gear?

[fickle star]

What's af gear?

[errant mortar]

artifact

[neon wing]

Lvl 90 as fuck

[fickle star]

Oh you get it from msq

[limber apex]

where do i get ilvl 560 accessories?

[errant mortar]

tyty

[hollow ice]

you get the ability to dye it from role quests tho fyi

[fickle star]

Yup

[slender siren]

I’m almost there lvl 87 msq currently

[fickle star]

And you cab equip it at 89 but its nerfed till you're 90

[jolly sierra]

level 90 dungeons

[limber apex]

fuck so only one dungeon

[unreal delta]

did....fandaniel get a new....va?

[neon wing]

No

[jolly sierra]

||3 of them, unlock quests in old sharlayan iirc||

[unreal delta]

odd....in this scene where he's talking to zenos he sounds...completely different

[fickle star]

Dunno I play in JP and it's the same VA phenomenal work playing the character too

[limber apex]

youre right

[fickle star]

After seeing the teaser

I have no freaking clue what's coming. Is it killing CHAOS?

[glossy hemlock]

[north silo]

I’m queueing for the first trial and we have 4/4 DPS but 0 healers and 0 tanks 😔

[north fulcrum]

I enjoy that Estinien only smiles when shittalking somebody or killing things

[glossy hemlock]

That’ll happen because tanks are in high demand

[fickle star]

Estinien is based

[neon wing]

My queue for first trial was about 35 mins
(tank)

[glossy hemlock]

Yeah the first trial took me a while as tank too

[fickle star]

Villain monologues and everyone just stands there but Estinien knows not to wait and strikes first

[deft locust]

from my experience, healers are in higher demand than tanks rn

[fickle star]

Lol no

Definitely tanks higher demand cause of sage

[neon wing]

Nah, there are sages left and right

[glossy hemlock]

Tanks are far more needed

[fickle star]

Yup yup

[humble heron]

Nowadays that people got sage up to 80

But on release healers were more needed because lots of people were doing msq as paladin

[neon wing]

Why would you do that

[humble heron]

Because its the job for the expansion

[fickle star]

Yup

[civic basin]

That's one reason

[humble heron]

Also paladin got a whole lot of new shiny things

[civic basin]

But I've always been pld so I got lucky this expansion

[olive spruce]

^

[neon wing]

Nah, heart of corundum is the best ability in the game

[humble heron]

The enhanced tank abilities are nutty

[fickle star]

TBN wants a word

[neon wing]

I also love the new tankbuster telegraph, is it present in old dungeons as well?

[fickle star]

Probably not

[olive spruce]

TBN days are gone tbh

Bloodwhetting and Heart of Conundrum

[civic basin]

What new tankbuster telegraph

[olive spruce]

are completely insane abilities

[fickle star]

Lool TBN days will never be gone

[neon wing]

Red marker, looks similar to a stack marker

[civic basin]

Ohh that

[fickle star]

TBN is and always will be busted

[civic basin]

Yeah I've noticed they've been using it a lot more this expansion, but I've seen it plenty in normal raids and alliance raids

[olive spruce]

ah dawg

[olive spruce]

which ones? ._.'

I'm pretty sure it's a new marker

[round gust]

Anyone done the “carrots : it’s what’s for dinner “ aether current quest ? It’s not working for me

[civic basin]

The red circle marker around a tank?

[glossy hemlock]

The solo marker

[neon wing]

Did all current quests

[glossy hemlock]

What’s not working?

[olive spruce]

stack marker with 2 red orbs circling you, meaning it's supposed to be shared by 2 tanks

[round gust]

It’s telling me to do “say” “carrots of happiness “ in a sentence but doesn’t seem to do anything

[neon wing]

Two red orbs is a tank stack marker, but there is another red marker which is just a single target attack

[civic basin]

Does it look kinda like this?

[hollow ice]

are you saying it to the right person and in say chat

[glossy hemlock]

It’s carrot not carrotS

[round gust]

Ooooof that might be it , one sec lol

[fickle star]

That tank buster marker isn't new it just means that ot will aoe cleave around the tank

It was used in the Nier raids

[civic basin]

Oh, well I haven't seen the new one I guess

[round gust]

Yes that was it hahah , ty

[fickle star]

There isn't s new one. All tank busters this expac are circle aoes so they all have that marker.

[neon wing]

Is release today?

[hollow ice]

release is 10

[neon wing]

I thought it was 7

[hollow ice]

we get our release codes today tho to put in

[glossy hemlock]

It is

[neon wing]

Will queues become even deader

[fickle star]

I made bank desynthing the msq grey gear ngl

[hollow ice]

honestly nothing will really change

[civic basin]

I've heard that the queues don't really change much

[neon wing]

40 in the morning, 8500 in the evening

[vital brook]

Bruh just ONE MSQ quest...

[ancient panther]

(level 90 post MSQ dungeon) || bro I can't believe they remixed the Omega theme for another dungeon lmaooooo ||

[civic basin]

||Think they remixed Longfall too||

[rare sinew]

Why fix what aint broke

[ancient panther]

|| A Long Fall is the omega theme ||

|| just remixed for the twinning ||

[fickle star]

Twining 2.0 when

[rare sinew]

[civic basin]

||Oh it is lol||

[rare sinew]

Moon ||which carrot did you pick?||

[hollow ice]

||red but your forced to the same carrot anyways||

[olive spruce]

I'm pretty sure the quotes differ based on your choice

[olive spruce]

||mine said something about being tasty, while my friends said something about the meaning of life and 42||

[slender siren]

Why

Leave the twinning in shb

[rare sinew]

Mine said ||iron carrot. Indigestion||

[static niche]

i am entering 89 dungeon, fun time!

[olive spruce]

okay, now that I'm finished with the MSQ, I'd love to hear predictions from you guys...

[fickle star]

I want more BGM

[olive spruce]

||1. What will be of Meteios? She clearly got back with us...
2. What is up with Pandaemonium? Is it the beginning of the new act?
3. It's hinted that we know nothing about a South continent and we know nothing about the 12... Would this be the new arc?||

[ancient panther]

2. || Pandaemonium is the 8 man raid series for EW ||

[olive spruce]

||I know, but I meant lore-wise... Is it just a filler or is it a new start?||

[ancient panther]

and 3. || the Twelve is what the alliance raid series in EW will focus on ||

|| It's a raid series, it's going to be separate from but still relevant to the 6.1 6.2 etc MSQ ||

[gaunt star]

||god its shonen antics. i love shonen antics||

[fickle star]

Loool that scene was great

Shonen antics are the best

[gaunt star]

the music is killing me

its so jazzy

[olive spruce]

I know, I'm thinking in a macro level ||as the start of a new arc... how much of that will be relevant in like... 8 years when the new arc will be drawing closer to it's end? I wonder...||

[iron birch]

A question

Is the 2nd trial || the same if you do it with trust or other people||?

[ancient panther]

|| A good question, I don't think SE has said much (or anything) about what the next big arc will be. So hard to know in advance what will or won't be relevant ||

I think || Emet-Selch dropping hints about unexplored plot threads is all we get for now ||

[iron birch]

||Meracydia and Dalmasca are probably the few safe bets you'll get to see, cause I assume they have yet to decide, or want to start anew||

Also the ||new world I guess||

[olive spruce]

||yeah, that's what I'm thinking... him dropping those hints are pretty huge since Yoshi-P said they already have plans for the next 10 years... meaning they probably have a sketch of the lore in the upcoming arc...||

[iron birch]

Regardless

[olive spruce]

||I was with my friends over Discord call when I watched that and our reaction was "oh no" lmao||

[iron birch]

I feel bad for whoever is going to write next expac

[ancient panther]

Very hard act to follow.

[jolly sierra]

REALLY? im assuming this was announced?

[north silo]

Really just used all the time up in the first trial and still didn’t get a complete because people didn’t pass basic math to know ||how far a 90 degree rotation is||

[iron birch]

Yes

[ancient panther]

|| Yes, it's called Myths of the Realm ||

[jolly sierra]

|| IVE BEEN CRAVING THE TWELVE SHIT SINCE FOREVER ||

[late aurora]

Divorce (Savage)

[gaunt star]

Excited about ||menphina|| and ||nald’thal||

[hallow dome]

man this chat looks like a SCP Dokumentary

[gaunt star]

||[REDACTED]||

[drifting spoke]

i finally get why yoshi p created this game, such beauty and tragedy

[warm glen]

When will be ew released today?

[late aurora]

When they said it’d be

[north silo]

How many times are gonna ||see THAT 90 degree rotate mechanic|| in the upcoming trials I wonder

[gaunt star]

||none||

[bitter forum]

At least 1

[iron birch]

Also Ew and shb writer already said she'll step down for next expac

[jolly sierra]

honestly its a neat mechanic

[iron birch]

The motivation for that is to let other people shine, she'll stick around on the background

[jolly sierra]

im actually kinda okay with this. she's given us so much good shit when the stakes were high. im looking forward to a slightly less ||emotionally destroying|| storyline next expansion

[bitter forum]

Her duty is done, ||she returns to the star||

[late aurora]

||(Spins the circle arena)|| this baby can fit so many angles

[fickle star]

We don't want other people to shine we want more epic goodness

[ancient panther]

https://tenor.com/view/why-crying-emotional-tears-sobbing-gif-17306861

[bitter forum]

[jolly sierra]

beat me to it 😔 im actually tearing up LMAO

[iron birch]

Honestly, I want next expac to be a new start, it doesn't have to one up ew

[bitter forum]

I dont think they can

[iron birch]

Ew works cause it has... 4 expac before it

[drifting spoke]

i was like endwalker aint making me cry, now im tearing

[jolly sierra]

yeah the next time we'll get something as good as endwalker is gonna be like 8-10 years from now and im ok with that

i dont doubt the next expac stories will still be good

[fickle star]

Next exapac won't match ew. Ew is an epic finale next expac is a beginning. It has no chance to measure up

[iron birch]

What going trought ew felt like

[bitter forum]

Lets just hope it's a better start than 1.0 /s

[iron birch]

Yeah, my point it is that It doesn't have to

[fickle star]

The only way next expac tops ew is of they make it self contained

[ancient panther]

I'd be okay with a lessening of stakes. Ratchet things down a bit, smaller stories with new characters

[fickle star]

Which I'd be fine with tbh

[iron birch]

Yeah same

[ancient panther]

Give us time to recover from the literal apocalypse

[obsidian smelt]

|| predictions on what pandemonium will be?||

[iron birch]

A start of a new arc that can develop in something big/good

[fickle star]

Golbez

[north silo]

Well they are setting up new villains and the new overall arc in 6.x so I imagine 7.0 will basically be ARR 2.0

[ancient panther]

|| Kuja ||

[fickle star]

I think golbez because ew has a lot borrowed from ff4

[indigo shale]

||all 12 fights will just be lahabrea, each being bigger than the previous||

[ancient panther]

|| just sayin, FF9 has a dungeon literally called Pandamonium ||

[fickle star]

Maybe the first set of 4 will be the 4 fiends

[indigo shale]

also ff2

[iron birch]

So || does ff2 and type 0||

[fickle star]

Ooh they could totally do the emperor

[agile sundial]

I gotta say regarding Fandaniel that ||his motives are actually pretty decent despite being a doomer nihilist||

[indigo shale]

also with the esper for lahabrea in ff12 being mateus, i see ff2 approach rather than 9

[jolly sierra]

remind me what they are? i was falling asleep when i played that section so i kinda forgot

[fickle star]

Lahabrea never got his redemption arc and will forever be the weakest 14 villain lol

[agile sundial]

||So I guess he sees suffering as inevitable and eventually everythings fate is to die, so the only way for man to prove they are worthy of living is to overcome the end times?||

[brave onyx]

Next expac is ffxiv version 3

[indigo shale]

eh ascians never got redeemed, it was more for the ancients

[late aurora]

“We get it but you’re still a dick”

[fickle star]

I mean more in the sense that they all got fleshed out massively except laha lol

[indigo shale]

then why say redemption arc

[jolly sierra]

igeyorhm?

[late aurora]

Pandemonium

[fickle star]

I was joking? You might want to remove that stick mate

[bleak comet]

G’raha Tia is such a simp

[fickle star]

What

Graha is a beast is what he is

[jolly sierra]

i dont remember igeyorhm getting fleshed out much

[fickle star]

Imagine learning a forbidden spell to reach shelves too tall

[agile sundial]

||a common theme that came up in the dead worlds meteon discussed was that man was ultimately the arbiter of its own destruction. The final days kinda reflect this by turning men into monsters which reflect their inner selves. The only way to overcome it is for man to keep hope and work together so i can see why Fandaniel thought this to be a suitable test for mankind to prove life is worth living||

[late aurora]

She and laha were Elidibus’s Besties

[iron birch]

Lala feels like it got the short stick due to the fact he was unsundered

[fickle star]

I have no idea who that minor small fry is lol

[late aurora]

We’re gonna learn stuff in pandemonium

[indigo shale]

shes the reason the 13th is fucked

[fresh shadow]

13th?

[late aurora]

Void

[indigo shale]

world of darkness as its also known from the raid , the 13th shard

[fresh shadow]

ah

[late aurora]

She got a little excited to start a calamity, and fucked it up

[fresh shadow]

i nforgot about that. doh.

[fickle star]

EW had a lot of good undertones

[agile sundial]

im still working through level 88 and beyond but im already impressed

I get the feeling that Zenos is gonna fall flat again though. Cant say i care about him at all really

[fickle star]

You're not ready

[static niche]

ah jeez, another one to lick very deeply

||can we have a real scale figurine of hydaelyn?||

[late aurora]

No, don’t you dare

[fickle star]

No

[static niche]

[agile sundial]

Put down the hydaelyn figurine and the mason jar

[fickle star]

Needs to be double scale

[brave onyx]

Wut lmao

[late aurora]

You get a mother crystal, it’s twice as big as your house

[fickle star]

Ascians big so double scale

Time to log out, I need to process the finale

[agile sundial]

Btw level 87 quest was funny in a way, the way that ||hydaelyn was just like "my dog doesnt want to let you ride them? Its time for me to whoop your ass"||

[indigo shale]

since their are still 5/6 ascians unaccounted for im going to assume they never got raised again after dying or something

[fickle star]

Or never got found after being sundered

[late aurora]

“Congrats, you lived. That means you did better than most”

[indigo shale]

well being sundered wouldnt stopped them being raised

[fickle star]

Imagine being sundered. Couldn't be us

[agile sundial]

Btw can anyone remind me how hydaelyn got enough power to sunder the world

[indigo shale]

as the ascians used memory crystals created before the sundering to raise others upon the seat

[late aurora]

Counters

[fickle star]

You said they're unaccounted for that doesn't mean they didn't get raised. They could just not have been found

[indigo shale]

and we saw all all 12/13 Ascians in arr, namely 2.3

[fickle star]

How do you spoiler tag again?

[hollow ice]

||||

[static niche]

|| on both side

[fickle star]

Ty

||Elidibus at the end talking about pandemonium?||

[indigo shale]

yes

[fickle star]

Thought so

[agile sundial]

Anyway im hype to finish the story and get into the ex trials. How should i prepare myself for the normal raids if at all

[late aurora]

Have gear

[fickle star]

Just gear up

With tomes

[agile sundial]

Yes
From what

[fickle star]

Tomes from roulettes and 90 dngs

[agile sundial]

Are ex trials useful for gear at all

[fickle star]

I'll start cracking the dngs tomorrow if I can hopefully log in

I think accessories and weapon but tome gear better

[agile sundial]

So current bis is more or less all tome gear then i take it

[fickle star]

Pretty much

Might differ here and there

[agile sundial]

Easy enough i suppose

[fickle star]

Can't wait to start gearing up now I finished msq

[agile sundial]

Normal raids come out in 2 weeks right?

[fickle star]

Gonna use all my bicolor gems to make bank too

Dunno

[silent oriole]

is the lvl 90 gear section up2date on the wiki? aka, is there no equivalent to exarchic from ShB for EW yet?

[agile sundial]

Its on 12/21 so yeah 2 weeks

[late aurora]

6.0 just came out of course there isn’t

[silent oriole]

ok nice, ty

[fickle star]

I don't think there's crafted gear yet

Should come with raids

[silent oriole]

its my first expansion, started playing 2 months ago. idk about the usual gear progression 😄

[fickle star]

Right now it's artifact gear from msq then tome gear

That's the progression, in 2 weeks it's raid gear

[silent oriole]

aight gotcha

[jolly sierra]

post msq spoilers ||seeing the twins again at the garlemald station got me ||

[pallid girder]

good god another zone down. That's 2/6.

[late aurora]

Oh wait that’s right, happy current hunting

[coarse pond]

Current hunting new activity when waiting in DPS queue

[neon wing]

Why is msq gear called artifact gear

[coarse pond]

Wdym

[neon wing]

The class set

[fickle star]

Because it fulfils that role

The original class sets are af gear

From arr

[late aurora]

It’s a FF11 thing, so we just use it here as well

[coarse pond]

Lots of build up for the Endwalking part, but no foreshadowing what's next

[fickle star]

||Man I can't get over the 90 trial. The music for phase 2 is just so hype. The mechanics for phase one are really cool as well.||

[neon wing]

Well, ||Emet-Selch|| had a lot of good suggestions

[fickle star]

^

[coarse pond]

Well, none of those were the big thread

Idk if the story will feel the same without it

[rain badger]

Does end game hub have the shared fate thing like with eulmore

[coarse pond]

Or if they will pull something out of their ass

[neon wing]

Yeah and with post-credits

[rain badger]

Ie: get rank 3 in all zones to unlock a new gem stone trader?

[feral pike]

oh man I just got to ||zone 5|| and I kind of already have a theory of the rest of the MSQ...

[neon wing]

You can safely throw it away

[fickle star]

Zone 5 is very informative lore wise

But also what he said, you're not ready for what's to come.

[feral pike]

well I formed my theory after I saw ||meteion||

I'm so looking forward to being wrong

[coarse pond]

For me, after reaching area 5, I've basically had too theory for the entire story to the end

[neon wing]

I didn't theorize anything, I just rode the current

[feral pike]

the foreshadowing has been too great

[fickle star]

Same, EW was too crazy to make theories

[feral pike]

again, looking forward to being wrong

[coarse pond]

[fickle star]

Final scenes spoilers ||I wasn't ready for Zenos to come in like that||

[neon wing]

You might get it right in some details, but that's about it

[coarse pond]

Can't really comment on it anymore without spoiling much

Let's just say some parts were predictable due to foreshadowing but some were completely unexpected

[fickle star]

That's an understatement lol

[neon wing]

We're going to the moon btw

[fickle star]

Fly me to the moon

[feral pike]

ThEoRY ||tataru is zodiark's mother||

[lone pendant]

||that doesn't even make any sense zodiark doesnt have a mom||

[iron birch]

Sia fly to the moon starts playing

https://youtu.be/bgRKyuenqa0

[iron birch]

I uronically got the ||sharleyan ark to space part right||

[gaunt star]

made it to the last area. ||ngl, when first playing this expansion, I was not expecting existentialism.. ||

[fickle star]

No one was

[neon wing]

||that's the antagonist's premise though||

[static niche]

i cried to 89

[fickle star]

The last few hours play with the strings

[neon wing]

I wonder if ||all the omega stuff (like alpha + omega toy) is shown for people who didn't complete the raid series ||?

[coarse pond]

Heavy ening spoilers ||Hydaleyn fight was predictable, due to on how low level Trial Zodiarc was, and theme of balance. And because Hydaleyn was not our enemy the only motive to fight WoL was to test them. The moment you see Meteion you know where this is going. The only unpredictable part was the place. Motive was also predictable the second you found out she can use dynamis and can sense feelings of others||

[fickle star]

I wondered that too

[neon wing]

||even if it's predictable, I'm still gonna gorge on react content harder than Zenos on mothercrystal remnants ||

[coarse pond]

Ok that part was unexpected

And I loved it

[neon wing]

I loved ||his quote at the start of the last trial ||

[rigid sapphire]

(87 dungeon spoiler) || SO STOKED FOR THIS OMG ||

[slate ridge]

im stuck on a stealth quest

is there a way how to pass it?

[neon wing]

What do you exactly struggle with

[slate ridge]

the ||onoe in garlemald to unlock an aether current||

[feral pike]

ok this thread is killing me i'm deleting discord now bai

[neon wing]

👋

[coarse pond]

Again ending spoilers ||Too bad that the last Trial was with character that was just presented in the same expansion. Only saving grace was that the expansion itself was long enough to at least have some connection to it. Zenos fight wasn't as epic as Trial, but for me that was the last true boss of the expansion lorewise at least||

[neon wing]

||in another body? ||

[slate ridge]

no

[neon wing]

Then you lost me

[coarse pond]

skipped all aether currents

[slate ridge]

its ||children are our future||

[neon wing]

||chasing a boy? ||

[slate ridge]

yea

[indigo shale]

||well thats been every expansion where the last trial villain is mostly only introduced in the same expansion, zenos, thordan, emet for example||

[simple plover]

blue haired boy catches you out when he doubles back - just hang back on the right side and you wont get caught when he checks around

[neon wing]

||the tricky part is that he will sometimes run behind the object that you're hiding behind, you need to react and run to the other side ||

[hushed lodge]

||I liked evil genocidal bird girl melia. Wasn't super complex but felt she served her role well.||

[coarse pond]

||Thordan was foreshadowed in pre expansion patch, Emet was also foreshadowed before expansion||

[neon wing]

||so were the final days ||

[static niche]

well the concept of the villain was foreshadowed in SHB

remember emet-selch's attitude for that entire expansion?

[coarse pond]

Ending spoilers again ||But it's an act, it wasn't known then that's made by a person||

[static niche]

depression, suicidal, obsessive, negative

[slate ridge]

finally did it

||i hate that goddamn blue haired kid /angry||

[static niche]

hell the SB leading into SHB showed emet-selch exactly that but we just didn't see thru that, he literally died without doing anything just for kicks

[neon wing]

I disagree, he only had contempt for sundered life forms. Unsundered are unaffected by ||dynamis ||anyway

[compact wedge]

disappointed in SE for forcing people to use trusts in this dungeon tbh

[static niche]

you're not forced.

[neon wing]

You're not forced

[compact wedge]

you totally are

it's not even a choice

[static niche]

if you're a massive fan, yes. but you're not obliged to use trusts.

[indigo shale]

yeah you arent for any dungeon made to use trusts, its always a choice

[hushed lodge]

I just find it funny that the whole reason the final days ||occurs is because a dad forgot to install parental controls for his little girl's access to the internet.||

[static niche]

i on that particular dungeon will never go anything but that trust

[hushed lodge]

well yeah theres really no reason to pass up who they are offering there

[compact wedge]

exactly what i mean

[fickle star]

I always use trust for the first time anyway feels thematic

[astral lodge]

Who was prepared for the lore of ||aether being an ozone layer that doesn't keep greenhouse gases in, it keeps cosmic existential dread out? ||

[unkempt sequoia]

Anyone know the piano song that's played at times throughout the expansion? Most recently it played for me during the scene where you ||talk to Urianger on the moon.|| I don't think it's a new song to this expac, maybe it came out in Shadowbringers?

[static niche]

me too, it makes me feel like they're actually involved more than just background chitchat

[fickle star]

Exactly

[turbid helm]

whew finally finished

[static niche]

i want more avatars tho, give me ||venat, emet-selch, and hythlodeus avatars so I can drag them all with me to every dungeons and nerdgasm on their commentings||

[astral lodge]

I honestly felt so bad for ||Meteion, she did nothing wrong||

[jade relic]

finally finished the msq. all I can say is what a masterpiece

now im gonna listen to the old sharlayan music on loop for the rest of my life ok bye

[static niche]

any lickable parts?

[astral lodge]

Also the reason why your ||satellites should not be able to radiate nuclear level dread||

[astral lodge]

theres a quest at the last stand for that, maybe...

[steady valve]

why the hell is the area so freaking big

[static niche]

i didn't ask you tyvm, i asked the guy who finished just now :^C

[astral lodge]

||Fantasy NASA is no joke||

[steady valve]

and why are there jebait npcs ffs

[jade relic]

I dont recall any licking...

[static niche]

guess you're not a pervert. congratulation

[static niche]

because i exist to lick them

[cinder spindle]

Should i do role quests on my alternative class like for example, i leveled pld till 89 then do the role quest on another tank for xp?

[hushed lodge]

I mean she ||did cause multiple genocides, granted I don't think what led her to this is all her fault. ||

[static niche]

they give about 400k xp, so not too much of a worth

[jade relic]

I didnt do the role quests at all and still hit 90

[astral lodge]

Although ||Given what she saw, the game does seem to say that it was a flawed, but fair conclusion that she arrived at.||

[hushed lodge]

||Oh yeah it's def understandable given the glimpses of what she saw, I kinda wish she had more of a relationship with the WOL but overall I think she was an interesting enough antagonist.||

[iron birch]

They give 2.5 millions, so it's hardly any exp

[cinder spindle]

i see so it wouldn't really do anything to my alternate job's xp

[hushed lodge]

Fandaniel's plot confuses me.|| So like he's an ancient as Hermes then after his term is done on the council + the whole sundered nonsense he becomes Amon?||

[iron birch]

Yeah, it's mostly for the main job, I had to do 2 roulettes to be o par with msq

[astral lodge]

||Maybe if we had more time with her, or she was introduced before we found out that giving into despair cause people to turned into blasphemies, as soon as I found out she could read emotions I was like..."oh no"||

[late aurora]

Reincarnation is a thing

[hushed lodge]

||it didnt click for me until a smidge towards the end of the area. Granted she was pure in personality so red flag.||

[astral lodge]

||Yup, he's first made aware of his previous life as an ancient when Elidibus reveals it to him while Hermes lived as Amon||

[iron birch]

Just assume there are ||2 fandaniels, the og one from the past, and amon which is a shard and the guy from allegan||

[fickle star]

Imagine not being on par with msq by just eating egs and grabbing the odd fate along the way

[turbid helm]

so what did y'all think of the story

[fickle star]

Phenomenal

[jade relic]

best story I have had the pleasure of participating in

[astral lodge]

an occasional stretching of a plot thread here and there perhaps, but sooooooooo good

[hushed lodge]

||I get that i think . It's the point inbetween Hermes and Fandaniel that confuses me||

[turbid helm]

yeah it dragged in certain places, but the payoff was worth it

[indigo shale]

id go as far to say the best gaming experience of all time, i dont think their will be any game past or future to even be half as good as FFXIV

[iron birch]

Just assume there are ||2 fandaniels, the og one from the past, and amon which is a shard and the guy from allegan||

[jade relic]

100% agree

[coarse pond]

Felt awkward at times. Felt like theme of the game changed completely. Story as full package felt awesome

[iron birch]

I'd correct to best story, rather than best game but that's just me

[astral lodge]

I still don't know ||How there was so much left of the mothercrystal for Zenos to fly to the edge of the universe, when originally it took two whole dragon eyes to summon Shinryu|| Small things like that and ||Why didn't someone put a changelog on the memory erasing machine||

[neon wing]

||was it explained how amon got his hands on memories of Fandaniel? ||

[hushed lodge]

Overall I really loved it. Bit too fresh on my brain to say if I liked it more than the other expansions and I think there's def some padding in regards to the ||moon rabbits ||in general but still fun. The last 2 zones and dungeons with them are my fave in the overall game easy. Really strong finale

[coarse pond]

Again ending spoilers ||But the ending felt like we are about to go PSO2 kind of story from now on...||

[late aurora]

He got recruited by ||Emet||

[indigo shale]

||in the same cs we find out he is amon, emet is there and raises him to the seat||

[coarse pond]

||Or Star Trek||

[neon wing]

You compare ||two dragon eyes to the heart of a star ||

[astral lodge]

fair point

[neon wing]

||wdym? Convocation and the ancients were long gone when allagans lived, no? ||

[hushed lodge]

Wouldn't go as far as to say endwalker salvaged Zenos but I think he got the best sendoff he could have possibly gotten

[north silo]

nearly gave up on the first trial then i realised its not us rotating 90 degrees but the mechanics

[iron birch]

Unsundered use crystals to impart memories of the sundered on their shards and fill a seat

[astral lodge]

Can't wait for the next arc to revolve around ||an ff14 player who gets sucked into the game||

[turbid helm]

I honestly thought || asahi showing up at the end of the 79 dungeon || ruined the moment but that's just me

[indigo shale]

||elidi, laha and emet survived, the last 3 unsundered they have always been raising people since the sundering to the seats, even before the time of the allagans||

[iron birch]

Shb stuff

[neon wing]

Yeah I forgot that part

[jade relic]

I dont know why, but that || Metal Gear Solid style slug fest || actually brought tears to my eyes, it was such a great send off

[hushed lodge]

why?

[hushed lodge]

it's funny as hell if you're a lala

[jade relic]

I was a catgirl but I can imagine lol

[astral lodge]

I'm imagining that ||last fight with zenos|| as a lala and its funny as shit

||Zenos getting bodied by a child...again||

[coarse pond]

Story felt good but weird. Out of place at times

[hushed lodge]

I'm a bunny boy. i just saw a video of a lala in that scene. looks jank

[astral lodge]

Speaking of bunny bois, I liked ||Erenville||

[neon wing]

Imagine watching stormblood trailer after finishing endwalker

[hushed lodge]

Endwalker had to wrap up a decade worth of loose ends so while it def has its fair share of issues I do cut it some slack

[hushed lodge]

he freaked me out cause have the same hairstyle

[indigo shale]

wonder if we will find out about the heart of sabik in panda

[frozen shoal]

Question for 2nd trial: ||Can someone explain why we are fighting her? The reason is kinda contrived so just wanna know if I am understanding it poorly||

[coarse pond]

Boi that's probably a good prediction

[static niche]

||wanted to see if you're strong enough to face emotions rather than aether that you're used to.||

[neon wing]

||if mankind is ready, it wouldn't have need of her ||

[turbid helm]

|| testing us to make sure we can hold our own against a greater threat ||

[frozen shoal]

||Didn't we already prove this by defeating zodiark? Or was he intentionally throwing to activate the final days?||

[turbid aspen]

||he wasnt even fully formed either||

[indigo shale]

||we didnt fight zodiark really, it was fandaniel we thought, and fandaniel seemed to wanted us to win||

[late aurora]

||Zodiark was a win/win scenario for Fanny ||

[hushed lodge]

more or less hey|| if ya cant manage to beat space mom ya have no shot against genocide bird||

[neon wing]

||zodiark bronze V||

[uneven agate]

has anyone had a weird error show up after they close the game? Like a list of dc11 errors

[turbid helm]

|| anom wanted to die so that the final days would start, also zodiark wasn't nowhere near at his peak strength since he was only rejoined 7 times ||

[coarse pond]

First trial spoilers ||He was still sundered. His body was incomplete||

[woven remnant]

It's a|| test of strength and perseverance. She wants to see first hand how strong both phyiscally and mentally the whole group are. Which is also why this is the only trial with a trust for now, because she also wants to test the rest of the group. An assurance if you will since there is no turning back.||

[late aurora]

If we won, ||final days||. If we lost, ||final days||

[frozen shoal]

||Kinda wish we could have seen zodiark in his true form||

[woven remnant]

||Maybe on Extreme?||

[coarse pond]

Ultimate perhaps?

[turbid helm]

|| maybe extreme will cover that ||

[frozen shoal]

||We pretty much lost the moment he got free I guess||

[indigo shale]

itll be a while till we see an ultimate for EW, havent even got to SB ultimates yet

[frozen shoal]

This is why I shouldn't play at 4 am lol

[static niche]

imagine doing ||hydaelyn ex and trust is available||

[hushed lodge]

pretty much. kinda amazing how|| Fanny ||was handled in retrospect. Very simple but lots of layers

[jade relic]

oh wow i just teleported to the final zone for a blue quest and the music is getting me again

[woven remnant]

lmao

[static niche]

would be better than ||the fucking PF forever||

[neon wing]

Can't wait for ||6.5, where Zenos-shinryu will come back, fuse with zodiark remnants on the moon and fall on the planet, causing the 8th calamity ||

[lean ore]

https://tenor.com/view/ffxiv-alisae-gif-18112934

[coarse pond]

Bruh

[static niche]

https://tenor.com/view/alisae-ff14-gif-18078583

[indigo shale]

||i wonder if zenos is really dead, because is soul isnt bound, unless the voidesent he made the pact with claims his soul|| 90 spoilers

[turbid helm]

|| zenos' ending was fitting. hope he stays gone ||

[fickle star]

Lol Zenos the Sephiroth of 14

[jade relic]

id like to say wow they can really get some great emotes now that they have good grasp on the engine

[lean ore]

hes probably dead /sip

[hushed lodge]

Speaking of Alisae man I forgot how emotional she gets over the MC at points

[indigo shale]

||then again even if he was doomed to live, how the fuck do you get out of there||

[static niche]

it's not emotes, they're using custom rigs using bodysuits

[charred minnow]

Wow this MSQ

[turbid helm]

ali stans for WoL

[jade relic]

well wahtever it is its great

[jade relic]

ikr

[neon wing]

||if ff taught me anything, a person isn't dead if you haven't seen them dissipate into aether (and even then it's not guaranteed)||

[turbid helm]

also || the 90 dungeon world tree backdrop was fuckin' gorgeous ||

[pale star]

I swear to god, I hate doing missions that involves following somebody without being noticed

[indigo shale]

i hope they do more like that in the future

[jade relic]

theres only 2 or 3, not enough to actually annoy me thankfully

[late aurora]

Says you

[coarse pond]

||Something something, some unforeseen god at the edge of the edge, comes in and rescues him something something, he gets black mask, gets operated, asks about Leiah.. oh wait that's the wrong Universe||

[turbid helm]

one of my only complaints with the MSQ were some of the new quest design

[indigo shale]

first expansion where quests feel more meaningful then, run here, talk, run here, kill then talk for 4 expansions

[coarse pond]

Oh yeah go there with NPC

[neon wing]

My most favorite zone overall was ||Garlemald||

[fickle star]

Some quest designs were also really good though. ||Thancred infiltration||

[coarse pond]

Me: uses mount
NPCs legs: am I a joke to you?

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[turbid helm]

I felt like I was || a child stalker ||

[woven remnant]

That one solo instance in ||Garlemald ||filtered a lot of people it seems

[coarse pond]

Yeah

[static niche]

well they probably couldn't stand crawling

[indigo shale]

that solo instance is the best one in the game imo

[pale star]

I don’t mind the stealth kills but following without being noticed is just getting me annoyed bc I’m so bad at it

[coarse pond]

The QTE there got me

[hushed lodge]

||that whole dungeon was just a roller coaster. ||

[woven remnant]

It was a nice instance, i felt dread and hurry.

[coarse pond]

Fuck QTEs at the end of long solo instances

[static niche]

it almost got me but i ENDURED by grabbing hold of my mouse with both hands and FURIOUSLY MASHING the button

[neon wing]

Wtf is qte

[woven remnant]

quick time events

[coarse pond]

That if you fail YOU HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING AGAIN

[lean ore]

its when u gotta mash buttons to fill the red bar

[static niche]

quick time events, button mashing basically

[hushed lodge]

if you are referring to the|| body hijacking ||I hated it. The area you have to run around looks really samey.

[lean ore]

meteion race when

[static niche]

spoiler but only if they have adult form

[coarse pond]

It was good narratively but horrible in gameplay

[woven remnant]

Yes that one. I liked it however I probably wont like it if they added more. It's fine to be a one time thing

[lean ore]

ofc they do its the sephiroth form

[static niche]

i need NEED to lick those lovely legs you know.

[strange wing]

So angery. I was supposed to que for the first EW trial and ended up in MSQ roulette

[lean ore]

how did u do that

[strange wing]

I tried queing for it hours ago.

[coarse pond]

Such devastation

[neon wing]

Gameplay was a big part of making you (or I should say me) absolutely terrified

[woven remnant]

Such despair

[lean ore]

xd

[hushed lodge]

if i may ask why? I like the tone of the area a lot but visually I found it rather bland

[strange wing]

And forgot to uncheck it. The hyped died such a painful death

[static niche]

[woven remnant]

||Garlemald ||is fine and all but it gives me Pagos vibes so uh...

[neon wing]

The chore quests were good and of course exceptional duties

[coarse pond]

Zone 5 best, change my mind

[lean ore]

zone 5 was awesome

[static niche]

zone 5 is forever

[hushed lodge]

Zone 5 is my fave as well but I still think it lasts a wee bit too long. or maybe the pacing is just bad i dunno

[woven remnant]

I'll say what i said again to my friends in ShB , how can they ever top this expansion

[indigo shale]

we'll see in 10 years probqably when and if their is a major arc again

[coarse pond]

Expansion is technically not over yet

[lean ore]

pandaemonium is probably tied to the msq so yeah maybe xd

[static niche]

yeah expansion's not over till 6.3

[coarse pond]

Post expansion patches will decide imo if EW is even close to ShB

[jade relic]

honestly if we went back to just doing errands and chasing crows out of cornfields for the next expansion, i wouldnt even be mad

[lean ore]

nah, endwalker ended with 6.0 fam

[hushed lodge]

Kinda looking forward to smaller-scale stuff again. EW's grandoise approach was fun but wouldn't mind another dragonsong war

[neon wing]

Zone 5 is great in execution, I just don't like that it creates ||a permanent time travel zone||

[indigo shale]

well EW ends 6.0

[lean ore]

6.1 and beyond is the new arc start, yoship told us long ago

[indigo shale]

which is why it was longer than shb and anything before

[static niche]

well the one thing i hope the most for 6.1 and ahead is ||more interaction with our favorite ancients||

[hushed lodge]

that's why i like it lmao

[indigo shale]

well we have no reason to do that though

[static niche]

WE DO. IT'S FOR MARRYING THEM IN FUTURE DUH

[gaunt star]

I started screaming when ||zenos|| joined the fight, holy shit that was hype

[neon wing]

Such concepts are prone to flaws where logic starts breaking down

[strange wing]

I better leave before accidental spoilers but it FEELS like I'm about to beat EW

[neon wing]

Time will show, of course

[indigo shale]

well ||zone 5 is like recreated amaourot its only their for gameplay||

[turbid helm]

it basically creates a paradox but whatever

[coarse pond]

I have paradox at home, as BLM

[static niche]

i means it's assumed panda is related to that zone

[indigo shale]

nope, wrong reply

[indigo shale]

no, no paradox, its only their for gameplay, like final zone of ShB, which shouldnt exist now lore wise

[lean ore]

inb4 the zone emerges in the present

[hushed lodge]

I feel logic went out the window way before that point but fair enough

[neon wing]

Also, it seems like ||pandemonium will be in zone 5, which further enhances the problem ||

[coarse pond]

Yeah final zone of ShB was supposed to collapse shortly after our departure

Lorewise

[indigo shale]

||well depends, they could time bubble it to when we are there anyway||

[static niche]

plot twist. ||panda IS the MSQ for 6.1 to 6.3 and we're fucked on 24 man for these patches and it connects the past to present and allows the ancients to truly live?||

don't stab me

[lean ore]

i mean Eden had ties to the MSQ anyway so /shrug

[static niche]

no like it does that whole ARR 8 man dungeons.

[lean ore]

https://tenor.com/view/it-spooky-spooky-ikumi-nakamura-e3-e32019-gif-14310341

[chrome sundial]

Post trail spoiler. Level 84-85. Seriously, major spoiler
||The end of days are apon us. 😦 ANd it’s all my fault.. I tried to be the hero but domed us all. Who was that voice we heard as the vision came into our heads..was it us? SOmeone else..Damned if I know||

[hushed lodge]

Out of all the scions def feel like y'shtola got the least to do this go around

[lean ore]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/100463940835762176/907392355810824262/helltaker-yshtola-2-1.gif

[late aurora]

There’s a “did you do coils” coils flag during 89 msq

Wonder what the other dialogue is

[lean ore]

got the boi

[hushed lodge]

oh forgot bout that

[brazen marten]

what ilvl are max available now?

[lean ore]

they just sent out the expansion codes

[static niche]

oh they're here now? i should refresh my mogmail

[late aurora]

580 if you do Extremes

[brazen marten]

@late auroraand how do you get umbral totems?

[late aurora]

Re-read what I typed

[brazen marten]

oh you edited

[bleak comet]

||What kind of frail ass bones does Mehvan have if getting thrown into water is an instant death lmao||

[hushed lodge]

raditz level

[indigo shale]

||well getting thrown by the neck by a strong beast would kill anyone i think||

[bleak comet]

Also the baby should of been floating

[gaunt star]

MSQ Spoiler: lvl 90 minor||LAMO, when G'raha Tia asked if he would be mentioned in your epic. That middle choice. I picked top||

[lean ore]

|| or the terminus beast crashed her head ||

[chrome sundial]

||What have we done|| Same deal. Post first trial major spoilers

[blissful bolt]

What’s that

[lean ore]

digital collector mount

[chrome sundial]

Oh shit that's from the collectors edition

[blissful bolt]

Oh! I think I should have that

Idk when tho

[bleak comet]

Yeah I should also have that shit.

[lean ore]

death scythe too 👀

[fierce wing]

||580 for weapon and accessory, 570 for armor||

[bleak comet]

Do you gotta relog for them? Or is it just a waiting game for the mail

[lean ore]

you should receive an email that your "expansion code" has arrived, then you click the link in the email which leads u to said code

[blissful bolt]

I’m console

[lean ore]

oh idk then good luck

[bleak comet]

What about for steam? Do I get an email as well

[late aurora]

You already have the code

[lean ore]

[bleak comet]

this person just said "That is heartening to hear, indeed! The Final Days show no signs of abating"
Like.. Yeah? Isnt that the point of the final days? xD

[hushed lodge]

the point of the final days is to give a good excuse to cut out some characters who should appear otherwise.. ||tiamat|| what happened.

[lean ore]

tiamat went to meracydia we already knew that

[hushed lodge]

while the apocalypse is going on tho?

[late aurora]

Tiamat was worried about her kids, that’s done. She’s doing her thing now

[hushed lodge]

fair enough i guess

[lean ore]

someone had to protect her people

[indigo shale]

well they may not be aware of the final days completely though as well||, due to it starting off somewhere specifically rather than world spanning straightway||

[lean ore]

im sure Vrtra would have warned her

[indigo shale]

well it seems from what i gathered he only made contact ||in that one sharlayan scene where we are getting the materials||

[hushed lodge]

||maybe but the whole thavnair section is already chaotic enough i guess||

[lean ore]

regardless Fandaniel was using Meracydia dragons as fuel to summon Lunar Bahamut, Tiamat had every reason to stay there

[hushed lodge]

i forgot about the lunar variants entirely

[indigo shale]

makes sense, they were purely a distraction for fandan to get aether

[frozen shoal]

Trial 2 spoilers kinda? ||Why can't hydaelyn chase after meteoin with us or before when a part of her crystallized self acts as the heart of the planet in her stead?||

[late aurora]

||No more gods||, just men

[fierce wing]

almost done

[coarse pond]

QUADRIPLE FLARE QUADRIPLE FOUL HERE I COME

[gentle oasis]

I wonder how they're gonna continue the story..

[chrome sundial]

HOW DO YOU KEEP THE INVENTORY SPACE FOR ALL THAT

[coarse pond]

Idk, but no matter the story power creep they can make years and years of good encounters

[fierce wing]

Used to be full, now i've cleared 2 boxes. Since i dont craft stuff in the inbetween level anymore

[frozen shoal]

We realize we are a schizo and all this time we were going around the city like a madman pretending to be a warrior of light and then we get put into a mental asylum and 6.1 onwards is a prison escape game

[coarse pond]

Leves?

[gentle oasis]

[fierce wing]

If only leves were easy.

[gentle oasis]

thisa is just a end of the arc right? not end of story story for ffxiv

[coarse pond]

So how?

[lean ore]

yup

[fierce wing]

This is the only true easy leve I know

[coarse pond]

Bruh

[solemn helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yajquwpNaLA&t=12m30s

[lean ore]

if you wanna get an idea of where we could be going next || Just look at the places Emet told us to go before he perma-died||

[chrome sundial]

Yup! The next 2 YEARS starting with 6.1 are going to just be building to the next arc

[indigo shale]

if their is a major arc that is

they might just stay to smaller stories

[astral lodge]

||Hey you can't just post the final duty like that!||

[lean ore]

well they can do another major arc, tho idk if the stakes would be as high as endwalkers

[indigo shale]

well i doubt anything can be higher than that tbh, what the fuck would have to happen for that to be the case

[astral lodge]

Its hard to make the stakes high after ||Heading to the edge of the universe to save literally the entire universe||

[lean ore]

its a final fantasy game so any threat could pop and be like 'hurr durr me can destroy ur world "

[gentle oasis]

Can they top this though.. is the question

[indigo shale]

well seems like it would diminish EW if they just pull some random shit out

[gentle oasis]

^

[indigo shale]

continent destroying, perhaps but world ending i dont forsee,

[lean ore]

probably

[jade relic]

They have another 10 years to build to something. That’s the difference is that unlike ARR, now they have time

[lean ore]

tho if there was world ending the other shards would be threatend too

[gentle oasis]

^

[frozen shoal]

Hiw long will it take to finish msq from the 2nd trial onwards?

[astral lodge]

||Hermes:...Did I forget to turn the oven off?||

||Final Fantasy 14: Inferno||

[lean ore]

its still long Teh xD

[indigo shale]

||zodiark still exists on the remaining shards||

[gentle oasis]

I dont see how they can release something that can threaten the universe that wouldn't diminish EW

[frozen shoal]

More than 3 hrs?

[solemn helm]

There's plenty of unresolved stuff that would still be exciting.

Arenvald piloting the G-warrior
United Dravania and Ishgard with an army of dragon riders.
Estinien jumping to the moon.
Thancred meeting with grown up Ryne.
Yshtola being Master Matoya when the original passes.
Urianger fully becoming the Man on the Moon.
The Darkest Timeline

[lean ore]

easily more than 3

[gentle oasis]

long bud..

[frozen shoal]

Oh wow, guess Imma sleep now

[lean ore]

beast tribes release when 😔

[frozen shoal]

Don't forget magnai and sadu finally fucking

[static niche]

what. prove it

[solemn helm]

They were just mentioning it as an unresolved plot thread.

[frozen shoal]

Wait for 6.1

[static niche]

oh

[manic inlet]

Anyone know where I can get level 560 accessories?

[static niche]

89 ex

[pulsar current]

no thats 580

[static niche]

ah

[pulsar current]

560 from the first lvl 90 dungeon

[manic inlet]

Thank you ❤️

[frozen shoal]

Anyone else disappointed by how little new glam we got from levelling dungeons? There are soo many repeats

[manic inlet]

I'm just happy MNK got some sexy glam items for once

[frozen shoal]

From the 85 dungeon?

[hearty ravine]

Didnt se said they will increase the xp reward of sidequest? It isnt even half of msq xp reward smh. and in later levels it goes down to 1/3

[coarse pond]

Sadu is mine

We both love blowing stuff up

Also if you want something to fight against (ending spoilers) ||Remember that entire universe is still filled with Dynamis, something else might try to use it to bethe bigger threat. Maybe even someone from our star, maybe someone from the different star||

[indigo shale]

||i doubt anyone would be able to do that ||

[wet crown]

we have a story spoiler thread for this

[indigo shale]

spoilers are allowed here also

[late aurora]

In lore spoilers

[indigo shale]

its only lore spoilers itself we cant talk about EW, this channel and the threads are fine for it though

[coarse pond]

Bruh

[north silo]

Bruh is the WoL dumb ||they killed zodiark to stop the final days even tho zodiarks purpose was literally to stop the final days||

[indigo shale]

||welll we had no choice, fandan was controlling him, also we didnt kill him ||

[late aurora]

Do you really want Fanny ||running around with Zodi power?||

[indigo shale]

||fandan finished zodiark off, the watcher was just going to bind him again till fandan did his thing||

[strange wing]

Crystal is the worst DC of all time. Everyone here is terrible. Especially myself

[pliant dock]

Where can I turn tomestones of allegory to poetics?

[static niche]

mor dhona

[unkempt beacon]

||That Smile of your character when you accept him is so absolutly badass"||

[lean ore]

man the epic echo is disgusting xd

[zealous abyss]

Anyone tried E12s undersized?

[unborn umbra]

I call this: Walkingway

[lean ore]

nah its definitely Livingway

[north silo]

I can’t figure out how to get to the watcher ||post zodiark trial when the watcher fails to summon argus||

[half phoenix]

Epic Echo?

[half phoenix]

has no images

[lean ore]

wow

basically 300% more Damage, HP, heal potency

[half phoenix]

Ah

[viral herald]

Anyone know if the original wings of hope bla bla bla song has like, a normal full version?

[half phoenix]

Didn’t realize they called it “epic echo”

[viral herald]

currently at msq88 and haven’t seen it

[north silo]

Can someone tell me how I find the watcher after the trial cause I can’t get around this crater at all

[half phoenix]

Is it under a separate menu from the normal DF modifiers?

[lean ore]

was farming unsync garuda for WT and i saw it 🤔

[viral kernel]

Any fella that has level 89 dungeon armor pieces want to show me some?

Just dm me

[iron birch]

Takes a bit to upload music, especially since it has to go along gameplay to avoid a take down

[half phoenix]

Do we know the name of the song used after the final trial?

[stable island]

Follow the MSQ, there is a special one waiting for you somewhere that can carry you across.

The bridges there are also tiny, so diffiicult to find too.

[simple axle]

any idea where to get dungeon mini boss orchestrion
or does it not exist yet

[pallid girder]

So if there is a ||Horizontal Hyur|| is there a ||Vertical Hyur||

[distant elk]

i need the || moon bunnies || to be playable, and I need it NOW!

[lean ore]

replace lalas with loporits

[vital merlin]

Hey i got a SPECIFIC WONDER

Who here has the lvl 90 Paladin Job Armor?
The Wonder is:
Is the cape fully flowing... or is the bottom of it like, "stuck" to you?

[slender siren]

Don’t forget to put in the registration code

[simple plover]

as cool as it was, getting the second trial in trial roulette feels like getting Ramuh Extreme in mentor roulette. Don't think I'll ever run that roulette again anytime soon without a class that can res...

10 minute fight and then both healers die at the same time and there is nothing you can help them with other than "do mechanics better"

[steep pulsar]

"stuck" to you

[vital merlin]

One day. It'll all flow.
Thankyeh

[neon wing]

Are these numbers for all content?

[lean ore]

doubt it

[neon wing]

All old content, that is

[lean ore]

i didnt try it in HW n such, but probably yeah

[neon wing]

I actually don't like these arbitrary buffs. I'd prefer just leaving unsynced content harder. It's all in roulettes anyway. And coils should still be doable with the the new numbers.

[proper zealot]

[gaunt star]

Finished the story. Where can I get the best gear possible atm?

[lean ore]

radz a han, ex trials

[gaunt star]

ty

[proper zealot]

So, we have Waking Sands, Rising Stones, Falling Snow, and now Broken Glass

[lean ore]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/100463940835762176/907392355810824262/helltaker-yshtola-2-1.gif

[undone zodiac]

noice

[ruby loom]

great news everyone, you don't need to farm skalla anymore if you want the gear pieces 👍 at least for NIN

[proper zealot]

I'm not so sure about the existence of this Sprite

[shell merlin]

i finished MSQ

what an end holy cow.

[wet crown]

Best X.0 story, no doubt
But I have some grievances with the story though

[shell merlin]

@wet crown being what

[wet crown]

The two that stand out for me are - Zenos's avatar is completely glossed over and there's still some Ascians unaccounted for

[viscid monolith]

I don't like || Endsinger || Final Boss

[wet crown]

the design or overall?

design wise I'd say it's up there with Orphan for the oddest final bosses

[viscid monolith]

Overall. || My one wish was for the last boss to not be a giant monster introduced this expansion. It reminds me of Zeromus even though the buildup to Endsinger is much better. I didn't want the source of the sound to be a monster we solve by killing a thing. ||

[hollow wolf]

Also whatever tf emet did to zenos that was mentioned briefly in shadowbringers

[wet crown]

Ahh, I completely forgot about that

[hollow wolf]

Ig its story hooks but it feels strange...?

[wet crown]

Partially, I feel like this is because the story is basically 30% bigger than a regular one. They crammed in so much story

[hollow wolf]

Yea

Also ||WE NEVER GOT TO GO TO RYNES FESTIVAL ||

[wet crown]

if they actually made 2 full expansions, I'm sure the first would've ended after ||Zodiark's death, before the final days started||

[wet crown]

||They held it in before EW :')||

[viscid monolith]

Also || they're really pushing it with the time travel ||

[wet crown]

Let's be fair. ||It's a flawless loop and still very FF.||

I don't like it but I don't hate it.

[pine patrol]

i thought we would have a ||reset ||end....the power levels are now so insane. we beat ||hydalyn zodiark and a universe life destroyer||

[viscid monolith]

|| But now there's a time loop within a time loop ||

[wet crown]

...huh

[shell merlin]

actually youre not wrong, though the end for zenos is.. pretty good more anime than my liking

[pine patrol]

wonder what they can even put in the next expansion....

[viscid monolith]

|| Alexander's loop exists within Endwalker's loop ||

[shell merlin]

and some ascians existing still true, but zodiark is dead so idk. @wet crown maybe future patches?

[wet crown]

||Emet-Selch pretty much listed every possibility.||

[shell merlin]

true

[wet crown]

It better be the New World next

[pine patrol]

yeah but they don't really felt like threats anymore after what we went through

[wet crown]

No matter. It's about the journey itself

[viscid monolith]

Oh ya and || they didn't depower the WoL ||

[subtle pasture]

||Emet lists almost every office in a side dialogue and we STILL have zero mention of Deudalaphon ||

[wet crown]

I thought he did

[hollow wolf]

Nope

[shell merlin]

honestly expected zenos to just become the final boss

[pine patrol]

i guess we'll be like saitama

[boreal palm]

That’s the problem every game and series that has an “ending” has. Destiny 2 is about to go through the same issue when we defeat the long-running big bad that always seemed unbeatable. The ability to transition into a new threat is where a series really shines so I’m looking forward to seeing what SE has up their sleeves.

[shell merlin]

||zenos as a solo duty.. makes sense in some regards and was fun and felt more.. friendly than a literal saving world||

[viscid monolith]

They're gonna have a hard time justifying || a threat more powerful than Hydaelyn, Zodiark, and Endsinger ||

[wet crown]

I chose the first option and I do not feel ashamed. I also wanted to see my hroth with the snarky smile

[shell merlin]

i picked it to

[pine patrol]

one punch fantasy XIV

[shell merlin]

my guess|| is going to different stars..? ||

[viscid monolith]

|| I thought all life in the universe was dead? ||

[hollow wolf]

||[19:59]Emet-Selch: The former category includes Mitron, specialist in aquatic life; Loghrif, specialist in terrestrial life and husbandry...
[20:00] Emet-Selch: Halmarut, specialist in fungal and plant life; Emmerololth, specialist in medicine and healing...
[20:00]Emet-Selch: And Lahabrea, specialist in creation magicks, who has brought forth phantom beings of the highest complexity.
[20:00]Emet-Selch: As for the latter category, there is Altima, advocate of the arts; Igeyorhm, champion of enlightenment and rhetoric; Pashtarot, preserver of discipline and order...
[20:00]Emet-Selch: Emet-Selch, keeper of the aetherial realm─or “Underworld” in the vernacular; Fandaniel, pursuer of extant phenomena...
[20:00]Emet-Selch: And Azem, traveler of the world and counselor to the people.||

[shell merlin]

other stars of the source, like the first

not all stars in the source are ded

[viscid monolith]

You mean other shards?

[shell merlin]

im tired its 5am, so yes

[subtle pasture]

||He skips Elidibus— who we already know so w/e— but doesn’t list Deudalaphon or Nabriales||

[wet crown]

which means they're in a different category

[hollow wolf]

Honestly, I'm wondering if ||killing two elder primals and the Sound (+zenos)|| all in one expansion was too much

[viscid monolith]

Yes

[wet crown]

it was

[indigo shale]

i think it was fine, better than leaving on a 2 year cliff hanger

[pine patrol]

it wasnt if there was a ||reset ||end

[hollow wolf]

Considering in shadowbringers it was just 2 unsundered and some sineaters which didnt really hold that much value

[subtle pasture]

Yeah a little, ||but MAN what a finale it was||

[wet crown]

let's be real, it was
but I won't complain. Despite everything, this is my favourite expansion

[shell merlin]

also do we still have the echo? do we still have the blessing? can primals be summoned still? do we tap into emotions now? or will try? etc

[wet crown]

still there

[shell merlin]

i do agree, best expansion and despite all the questions it was good.

[wet crown]

btw, unsynching content gives the Epic Echo buff
300% to dmg dealt, healing received, bla bla bla

[indigo shale]

and still hopefully panda tells us more about the heart of sabik

[pine patrol]

i like endwalker more than shadowbringers

[wet crown]

EW > ShB > HW > SB > ARR

[viscid monolith]

Ya it basically just brings you to pre EW stats

[hollow wolf]

Felt. ||Zenos fistfight instance had to be my favourite. 2nd is bodysnatch and 3rd is venat fight||

[shell merlin]

ima say it, last trial was good idc if it was weird or just another monster

it was a fun fight and had some mechanics i didnt see as more casual player

any idea what zenos was gonna say at the end?

[hollow wolf]

||when she rewound the tank lb3 moment heeeelllll yeaaa||

||Seeing the little differences in everyone's prayer stance too||

[shell merlin]

||i only knew to lb3 cuz our GNb did lol, so any time i do it with first clears i get to LB3 as DRK||

[wet crown]

normal version of the fight only has one interesting mechanic that isn't explored more

[humble heron]

im sure EX is gonna have some fun bullshit to deal with

[shell merlin]

ill do EX later after aethercurrents and some side stuff

[wet crown]

but we can't have challenging final bosses, ofc

[jaunty crystal]

||To me, the killing of Endsinger was just a formality. We beat the final boss, we reached Meteion when we summoned the field of flowers in Ultima Thule.||

[wet crown]

Good point.

[shell merlin]

dont forget ||we see her bird at the end too||

[hollow wolf]

I think it was just left to be open ended. I didnt really understand the weight of the conversation or the hidden meaning

[shell merlin]

i honestly think he was asking himself those questions

[pine patrol]

||how could we kill zenos after he came and help us...||

[shell merlin]

but directed to us as well

[gaunt star]

It was a gift to him, the man wanted it more than anything. Might as well give him

[humble heron]

||i mean he came looking for a fight to the death, lol||