#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
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Ok. so what if I glamoured the item first and then dyed it?
lol a guy got mad that i walked into a npc interaction zone the enemy deengaged from me and attacked him
Does anyone know the Trust exp rate now? Is it similar to ShB launch or?
It'll be colored but if you cast the glamour again on a new item the dye won't exist
and i ignored him, who told him to attack it anyway xD
Just from looking at the level 81 dungeon exp, 3 runs to level up the trusts per level
So there is no way to preserve the dye basiclly.
Not too shabby i guess. Thanks
And i'm dooooooooone
When does 6.1 come out anyways...? Next year when?
I assume dungeon is best for levellin other classes from 80 to 81
What a road
What's the best way to get the new tomestones right now? 90 dungeon spam since probably nobody's doing hunt trains in EW?
Unfortunately
Hey 90 dungeon slaps
Not unfortunate for me. I'm a WHM so my queues are instant and I can earn some bonus gil from in-need while I'm at it.
Yeah but hunts are way faster and more lucrative
On my server only tank is in need lmao it’s why I played through as DRK
I dont think hunts are ""ready"" yet
I am having to level up my DRG now seperately and I’m using that to farm level 83 dungeon for glam
What is this
Trying to explain dye/glam systems
The plus colour is the colour it’s been dyed to.
The little circle in the top right shows it’s dyeable. If it doesn’t have a circle you cannot dye it.
!faq dyeicons
Sharlayan night theme is restful..... so many theme in EW are like this

This is really hard to draw out
There is a chart already
I'm trying ;-;
and more faq commands like glamour and glamourdressor
has anyone tried sb trials alone as a lvl 90 560ilvl?>
As @hollow ice said. There's commands for it. !faq dyeicons, glamour, glamourdresser
Better explaination than shitty drawings
EW isnt in NG+ yet right
Nope
||Just thinking about how Emet showed up to save us in the Seat of Sacrifice because he remembered our time together on Elpis and it all makes sense
||
I am now sure of it ||the scions will return in 6.1, but not as Scions, but as your friends, Yoshi-P actually said that 6.0 also serves as a foothold of the 6.1+ story, so they are connected in some way!||
Not until post-patch afaik
ew fucking sucks arr is still best xpac
sinja1234
||i mean the scions are still officially disbanded||
@haughty forum
Post game ||all scions can be found at the respective locations they mentioned. Its p cute||
I mean it does have Gaius in more cutscenes than EW so you’re correct
||just secretly they're still friends||
Because EW literally had him in ZERO CUTSCENES 
But... EW has maxima
@haughty forum x2 cuz bro
The best boy.

Okay and he is a cutie but Gaius is my true love and they baited me by having him around for literally one moment ||when you go to Garlemald || and he tells you to not be cold 
||graha better hang out with us on whatever quest we start in 6.1||
OMG THIS IS BEST DUNGEON EVER
|| G’raha needs to fucking propose to us already it’s so obvious he loves us it’s sooo adorable I love it ||
||I GET TO PARTY WITH EMET-SELCH, VENAT. Hythlodaeus as the cheerleader!||
Okay. people i need this for a bingo spot... ||does a scion join the forum|| post MSQ?
I said|| they return as friends from 6.1+ onward right? Maybe in a smaller role, but i have no doubt they return. Players were with them for 10 long years, they are too important to make them low-key NPC's also they do tell you, if you meed their help again, you can call on them.||
No, and... || they’re not actually “disbanding” the scions they’re just not calling themselves that anymore and they’re focusing more on their own things but still totally working together ||
||you KNOW i had him come to my room in that one cutscene. Also when he's CRYING when he thinks we died SJHFGDJSGDJHSGD||
Also, || The Zenos duel and the Endwalker theme that plays.....
You can finally just fight without any doubts, just for fun, you and Zenos are not that different after all on that. He deserved that rematch and it was an epic concusion for Endwalker!||
so i know ||venat is pld, dancer, and whm, but what about emet? what jobs each is he?||
Yeah right like we could || call on Cid to build a fucking spaceship and literally no one asked him for help even though he’s the best engineer they’ve ever seen and he even comments on it after finding out like WHY DIDNT YOU INVITE HIM AND HAVE HIM@MORE INVOLVED ||
|| I’m sure he’s only BLM||
he's all rounder though
Really????
yeah
Dammit. My bingo sheet is done then...
it clearly shows all 3 roles.
What about ||Hythlodaeus?||
I’ve never done trusts before so I don’t know anything about that so I don’t know how you’d select their classes
||cheerleader. literally||
I have never seen this
He's ||Bard|| only
their class are selected by role, their job are preassigned, it's just changed on which role you give them
||Well, he is too busy with his damn job! That is for sure and you know, sometimes you don't think and just press onward, like the fight against Zenos, an epic fight to the death for fun.||
|| I guess he’d probably be healer in the even you play as DPS ||
nah, either ||emet-selch or venat will be healer||
|| Yes I meant Emet Selch as healer ||
||one dps is locked to hythlodeus, if you play a dps, you can have venat as pld, emet as a handsome whatever healer he is cuz idk what job he is as tank or healer||
and honestly I'M SO DISAPPOINTED I CANT FIND OUT YET CUZ I DON'T HAVE A DPS AT 87
I don’t think he can be a tank really?
he has a blue slot so yes he can go as one
there was a char in SHB that could go as two role but not the last
Since it would automatically be || venat|| there is no combination to make him tank
||Do you guys the Scion characters return in 6.1 in a different role?||
We don’t know
you can just remove her and put the other one first?
||I think we will see one but not all of them||
Then select him as your tank and play healer
But the 6.0 story is a foothold to the new story in 6.1, i think there will be a connection somehow.
wtb ||hades instead of emet-selch's boring staff that resemble yshtola's staff||
The only way it works is if you can shove him into a role
fateborn, i want ||hermes staff bc im a whm and i hope to god its a dungeon drop||
If you’re able to force the character to be a certain class you’d be able to see what job
FUCK. I FOUND A TYPO
that seems fine, fateborn
HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME SENIX, TO HIM?!
What’s the typo..?
Aye is a real word
yeah I dont see a typo
However, AYAYAYAYAY is not a real word and is instead a jojo reference
||what is the planet called, isnt it hydaelyn?||
wait, maybe it isn't i thought it should be alright
no thats correct what he said
then i remember they like to speak old
Alright bother?
Lmfao
||Eithyris or something like that||
man the new veraero looks really cool. The new verthunder...does not
A right bother is not even “old”
verthunder 3 looks rlly good, you dont know what youre saying
That’s such a common phrase lmao are you American?
fateborn outed as not having watched winnie the pooh
Hey don’t pull that, I’m American and I know
you think i'd remember shits from before i was 10?
the old one was a lightning bolt, the new one is like some points of light that each deliver a tiny shock. It's not a bad spell effect but it doesn't look right for the main big lightning spell for a class
its fairly common in america too
I’m surprised he hasn’t heard it before enough to assume it’s a mistake.
verthunder 1 was super underwhelming, anything was an improvment
it was one of the best looking spells wtf
||There is a single reason why the Scions of the Seventh Dawn were formed, averting calamities, but because the root cause is taken away (Meteion a.k.a. The Endsinger) there is no need for them anymore, we know all that Louisoix Leveilleur is very proud looking from the heavens, his duty finally fulfilled by his grandchilderen and their close friend.....||
But i think the old scions will return in another role in the later story. But it is possible the scions will be retired, there was a interview with the VA, link below:
Is the online store still undergoing maintenance?
I’m very disappointed by the way that for the tomestone gear || that the DRG armour is not Kain’s ||
theres plenty more tomestone sets to be added
verthunder 3 is better, youre just not used to it
Did you not see the live letter
I hope they do add it in later because the theme of the rest is || FFIV characters ||
just give it a bit and you'll warm up to it
I'm not used to veraero 3 either and it looks straight up cooler than veraero 1
they knocked it out of the park with verthunder 1 though
I don’t know if the future ones will follow the same theme is all
|| uri just explained his plan. what was his resoning? FUCK i need acces to dialogues ||
|| what was this answer suddenly that made him realize killing himself would set things right in this scenario with the ea ||
Depression?
do you EVER have anything relevant to contribute dude?
We had this convo earlier haha
Let me in
90 spoilers || its interesting to think his thirst for a fight, zenos ending up saving itall ||
But that’s literally why though......
verthunder 1 was the most basic lightning spell, i dont see how you like it more than verthunder 3
you don't like zapping thing?
it looks like a lightning spell
|| how? i understand he said which of us seeks oblivion most. i get it, but why in this case? what led him to bring this up? ||
He tells you
the tornado of veraero 3 looks cooler than veraero 1 because a big tornado is a better wind flavored spell than just a ball.
Verthunder went backwards, it used to be a real lightning bolt and now it's just a ball
Okay so if you notice there’s a theme in the whole thing and || Hydaelyn explains it all beforehand after you defeat her. ||
verthunder 3 has ball lightning and multiple lightning bolts, it looks even more like a lightning spell
I’m so tired so it’s a lot for me to type but just rewatch that cutscene after that trial and you’ll understand
you should commit sleep then if ur tired
the only vids ive been able to find are ones where people s kip the entire cutscene
TLDR is || the scions are mirroring the ones they’re speaking to but instead of becoming like them they carried on ||
im crying
You can rewatch the cutscenes in the inn
Inn room man it lets you rewatch cutscenes
||the root of urianger's desire to seek oblivion is that he wants to repent in a sense for "betraying" the scions in post heavensward and also almost w the loporitts||

thank you!!!!!!
it was just gonna be about the post HW stuff ramos
@humble heron i saw nothing 
anyway, second trial trusts are incompetent and wiped me twice, went to redo it and accidentally joined a duty finder, left it after apologizing
now im stuck waiting 30 minutes 
you need to trust that the trusts suck
wow they're a dick to me. they could teleport to evade attacks. wow so mean MEAN
I didn't even get to dodge it lmao
damn
Their brains work different
I guess my trusts are using up all the computing power cuz mine are great
you're assuming they have brains
i was staring at the arena trying to figure out the mechanic while giggling at their snarks then the betrayal happened
the trial npcs in the second trial did better than actual players though
nah tho, this is the first time i've actually had a bad experience with trusts
|| so basically when we dont know how to move forward, someone needs to commit die and it will work ||
cleared it first time with trust in msq, did it later and people wiped like 5 times
you can have trusts for 2nd trial? wow
AMAZING
No that’s not correct at all
|| Their emotions of overcoming the exact same emotions that those they spoke to is what powers the change in the world || it’s explained several times lol...
|| why does that entail their death lmao ||
i hope these trusts become avatars cuz i dont wanna lose em
|| i would spoiler that || thats a really stupid thing to say
You know.....
||If Emet-Selch and Hythlodaeus had not their memories erased, Zodiark was never summoned, because they knew the real reason behind the Final days and all the calamities that followed, but their memories were erased and because you and Venat weren't targetted, you 2 kept your memories, so the real reason why Hydaelyn chose you as her champion was because she already had met you back in Elpis and knew you will chase down Meteion if you could get the chance to. She knew all along and never told anyone until you the WoL stood before her.||
||because their souls get unmade as metion says ||
|| why does unamaking them require unmaking ourselves? because only an emotion equally strong can negate or undue the other emotion? ||
Where u find this?
quest log
Oh my goooooddd did you not read the quest????
||from my understanding as its metions realm, she harbours any negative emotion, in this case mainly despair, so my guess is when the scions share those emotions with the inhabitants she unmakes the souls of those and become part of the world she has created as to relieve them from their pain, ||
||The real reason why they choose it is because you can press onward the world where it happens is a world where emotions forge a path ahead, you can only "start when you see the end", the ultimate power of Azem is only invoked when the 3 other powers that Azem holds via the powers that Hydealyn gave you are activated, Friendship, Courage and Knowledge. With their sacrifices those 3 powers are invoked triggering the only thing Meteion is weak aganst, Joy and Happiness and when that happened, she herself asks you to end it all, hence the names of the final 2 MSQ duties, The Dead Ends (Dungeon) and The Final Day (Trial).||
Always remember, when you encounter a dead end, always try to forge a another path ahead and press onward.
is this true?
Partly yes.
||The reason why the paths are created is because the negative emotions were countered with positive ones, causing Meteion to unmake them due to that.||
i think is because they have now a diferent view/emotion related to that dedpair, so it nulls it allowing you to advance
Positive emotions counter negative ones, so if ||Meteion|| encounters positive ones, she triggers the unmaking of both emotions, recreating the path that was blocked by the negative emotions.
i mean sure i can just take that at face value but it doesnt really explain why that occurs. || how does met suddenly gain power over them? she tried to annihilate them but was prevented bc of thancred which is why we can explore now. so why do positive emotions give her power? and how does unmaking translate to making a path? ||
Welp, looks like it's time to give up on FFXIV for a while. Can't even get through a queue before it crashes out again. So much for preordering.
Did you read or skip the quests???
Is it possible to finish EdW before full release?
A lot of people already finished it.
My guide only goes up to 88
go into queue, find something else to do while on your comp. every single time you hear the window refresh sound, CHECK BACK to see if it crashed, that way you can relaunch asap. i was able to get from 5k queue in 1.5 hours without ever losing my spot in line by doing that
Why do you need a guide?
yes its tedious but it will ensure you get in without losig your spot
To know how many quests i have left
Its not so much a guide its the game console wiki msq list
I’m basically done with the retread of zone 1
If I wasn’t in bed I’d login and tell you how many quests you have left
And im 87 ||Doing the dungeon soon||
||Azem's power that he/she got from Hydaelyn can only awaken if the 3 powers of Azem are activated, Courage, Knowledge and Friendship, when those 3 powers are awakened at the end of the road by the sacrifices made, Azem (The WoL) was able to use the ancient recreation magic, so the scions were remade again when Emet-Selch suggested it. Meteion saw all the flowers she saw from the past and that triggered her positive emotion and that was the real reason why she asks you to end it all as a true friend of her, she realised she simply forgot her positive ones after meeting you in the past.|| "To start you must see the end", nothing holds more true then the sad story of ||Meteion||.....
And that’s lvl 88
lmao i got kicked in a cutscene
Though it’s not really easy to judge how long it would take with queue times and cutscenes and all that stuff but I finished it in a few days not even really no lifting it so
i'm absolutely hating this new system; it's faulty and inaccurate, not kicking the people who are actually inactive yet kicking those who are actively doing quests and cutscenes
im so unlucky this dungeon run, i didn't get a loot worth a damn xd
It feels long because of the amount of long cutscenes and a few other things but it’s actually a really short expansion imo
||what level do you go to the moon? (no spoilers pls)||
||83/84||
Orchestration Roll for this version when
||https://youtu.be/QSR3UvOu4CE||
Level 87 Quest: Worthy of His Back
Voices included.
I did contemplate failing this and redoing it, nevertheless ultimately decided against it.
its longer than shadowbringers, its still quite a long expansion
ty
im...not even done the msq
the ||moon || soundtrack is mega chill
Okay then read the quests and dialogue and stuff and it’ll make sense to you when you read it....?
They really spell it out as much as possible for people tbh
I like the || Burrow place whatever it’s called the ambient music and battle music but I’m very biased lol ||
its like amh araeng
I've just been chilling to the Raz-at-Han day theme.
What lvl are you at
90
I really like the baldesion annex themes
So you’re close to the end then
You don't need to read it ofc, but yeah i feel you. 
im in the last part i just dont understand how that explanation even helps. it didnt asnswer the question, let alone was that much even needed. i even specified where i was at rofl
Is the online store still under Maintenance?
I don’t know how much plainer they could explain it to you.
like some people just say keep playing itll be explained later, meaning i didnt miss something
No everything you need to know to understand has already been explained in story already.
but then ppl like dreamy just need to say the entire thing for no reason rofl
If you don’t understand it then I guess it’s just something you won’t understand
then why would you read it tho
i got a bit of the way through. also eyes just glance over words you cant help but pick up
this is why i no-lifed the msq
yeah i shooudlve done that
and theres someone talking to themselves here replying to my every comment who dont seem to even understand my question LMFAAO
when do i get the relic gea
Level 89
damn that's a long way away
lmfao
walking toward my cool reaper cape and waist holes
I havent started EW yet but question, does EW take place on the moon?
Some of it, yes.
Is it mainly eorzea or new zone?
It's almost entirely new zones.
6 new zones for you to explore.
Pog
As is usual for a new expansion.
We don’t even go back to eorzea for story stuff iirc
Yeah we do. A couple of times.
we do
Well we don’t stay for a long time
We do, the Role Quests take place in Old Area's this time.
And the EW story actually has a MSQ where you are sent back to the First.
^
now just make a full on portal so Ryne and her wife can come have tea with the in-laws
what
But that is only because you need an answer that is long lost.
The secret behind the first final days.
Role quests aren’t msq, the first isn’t eorzea. But yeah it’s mostly the new places
You go to a location in Eorzea you’ve been to before
the tv civilization nice
VERY briefly and it disappointed me to no end because of the character that was there and only there
What choice?
alphi
whoever you like more
Whoever you want to talk to.
it's a dating choice :^p
Mommytola then
ali
I picked ||Alisaie because she seemed like the one most likely to come talk after the encounter with her dad.||
i wish i did graha tbh
That's what NG+ is for 😄
heh just gotta wait
is it not in journey?
Mommytola's back is still as good as ever
are you wearing a tuxedo cuz you wrere expecting her?
ah i see u chose her as well 
It's my only glam sadly
MSQ question how do u get there ||https://i.imgur.com/NVtGzM6.png||
cave to the left of the pin
what an annoying map
^ got me to it 😔
d@hollow icewhat pin ? my location?
the literal pin next to the quest marker
why is estinien hunky
Bc hes himbo
rethinking my life
Lvl 88 spoilers
huh return of the ||Shoebill following us||
theres another place you find him too lol its funny
oh wow ||venat summoned hydaelyn all on her own, no help or any other worshipers. she's OP.||
The lvl 89 dungeon is so good
did they actually use ||black blood for venat wounded. not even red.||
||cape westwind ex rides again||
Is the artifact gear people are talking about the stuff tataru gives you
Yes, ika
Ok cool thanks
Memba all those ||dead people|| that hate/don’t hate you?
The artifact weapons usually don’t come out until later patches right
okay. ||venat looked like a fucking guro villain mastermind butcher in this one. mommy im scared||
Relics don’t come until later
Hello fello warriors of darknesss
Spoilers for zone 5 ||i hope the bozja equivalent for EW has us harnessing dynamis to use lost actions or similar||
Harkon to me
Im a warrior of ambient light scuse you
How do you mark something as a spoiler on mobile?
You can surround it with || on each side
|||| put something in between those lines
|| the Elpis testing facilities would be a perfect spot for the next deep dungeon ||
Wow that’s incredibly low
but how can we ||explain coming back?||
Ting geting bether wht queue
Idk we already can
I mean we are going back for ||pandaemonium||
And im in primal
Aetherytes work weird, stop thinking
||Like you get to fight all the discarded experiments deemed too dangerous or oddly specific ||
hello
ew
I'm looking into your soul
Kill it whit fire
it looks like someone photoshopped a guy's face into game
That looks like the science dude from weylt
||fandaniel be like||
I just want to talk about the critically acclaimed FFXIV with a free trial that includes the award winning expansion Heavensward up to level 60
So just wondering ||if the outfit in a styled hero is always the same no matter the choices||
|| ||
you means the msq on ||moon?|| if so yes
Asking here instead of #questions-and-help even though I'm not sure if it really belongs here but, any idea where to get the fae wings ?
At first I assumed they were from the GS, but it seems I was wrong
pencil icon while selecting the image in edit
@tranquil palm on mobile tap the image
Oh thats nice
Most likely answer is that they're a reward that you can buy from one of the R3 Shared FATE vendors.
I know the Devil Wings are a hunt reward you can buy.
EndWalker: ||Everyone is here||
||endwalker makes me sad||
next expansio0n: start running
there arent any unique craftable gear yet right?
ye nth
oh wait but there is one thing for glam
thats the treasure glam?
I mean unique craftable
oh god do the floodgates open tomorrow?
It's prolly the only one w dat glam
THROW WIDE THE GATES! most if not all people that will play are playing
The floodgates were already opened
Is there gonna be a patch, or nah? Also at what time is the official release
release doesnt change anything really
Official release sometime tomorrow but patch is already implemented
When is that sometime? I want my mount :D
Anyone with a vested interest in the game already preordered for early access tho lol
There was 0 point to not, it’s “free”
Yeah there's not gonna be many new players if any
fair
when do you all think servers will start to stabilize and queues start to go down?
2 weeks probably
also registration code comes out tomorrow?
Yeah
thanks
If you really wanna play, get up early. I logged on at 9am central time on saturday and my queue time was about a minute
I have some collectable rocks, I have gone to the Collectable Appraiser in Radz-at-Han but he said I need to be referred there ?
Im not at this so Im not sure what im missing
think they unlock from Sharlayan, could be wrong tho
I dont see any bluequests anywhere
MSQ needs to be done. House of Splendour needs to be unlocked
That could mean you need access to the city via msq
I've completed the MSQ
is it just me, or does DRK have worse mob mitigation compared to the other tanks
ehe
you have the blackest night
:l
DRK doesn't deserve to get shit on and still have issues while every other tank gets buffed and fixed just because "lul blackest night"
I like my blackest night
I do too
TBN is very good. But us having TBN doesn't mean we deserve to get shit on
also i just did tower of zot and damn
TBN is completely outclassed in this expansion
All of the other major tank cds are better than it now
Not that TBN is bad
that too. the other tanks basically have a TBN anyways
But the others are so much better
also tower of zot is fun as fuck.
those boss fights are easy, but super fast and make it rlly nice to try and react
look forward to 83, 85, and 87 then
I both love and hate that the last fight is them spamming delta attack
Where do I u nlock the script exchange?
in ||radz i believe.||
I dont see the quest there
that's where the scrips exchange are but idk if the quest unlock is there. did you finish msq?
Yeah
dunno then i dont' craft
Here we go again
Hey - uh. There are maps gatherers can still get every day rn right?
in SHB and below yes
oh no EW maps yet?
Nope, the content for them don't exist yet, or are in work. they're usually released with patches.
ah, oops lmao
Where can we get lvl 90 gear from?
dungeons.
zammit. 89 gear too?
no, there's two extra dungeons as far as i'm aware
I wanted to gear up a bit more before the final trial
Ive found one where is the other one?
i believe one is in old shay, the other is...................................... radz?
Maybe you need to do the role quests to unlock them there?
most definitely not
There arent any blue quests in radz besides the role quests
try other villages or such idk
I take back what I said about the stealth missions, who ever made “Sage Council” should be crucified
i'm sorry what?
we did this before in shb tho
we did?
5.3 ||where we picked which of the role quest guys visited us||
Oh!
OOOOH
double lines
double each
||I could listen to venat for hours. Also I was way more invested in the past than whatever is going on in the present|| zone 5 spoiler
Jokes on you I only had one option
I had all of them on the first go
yes. ||mommy is best!!||
Yeah that scared me too, they were acting pretty weird as well
I don’t know about you, but Y’shtola seemed normal. She was worried about us, seeing what happened with the lvl 83 trial
where can you get the ||new tomestone gear?||
Nomura needs to play this expansion pack. It would help him when writing an saga finale. 😛
For me ||estinien|| was acting weird
i'd rather get an expansion to end all expansions just to one up this like how this one one upped shb
Btw is it just me or did endwalker seem quite short? I didn't finish I yet (lvl 88) but I flew through it while watching all the cutscenes
nah endwalker was longer than shb
damn ||zenos is giving a motivational speech about self worth||
||I felt the same way, tbh||
Ic
POV: you just got out of work and want to relax to some ff14
where can you buy ||bicolor gemstone vouchers||?
ALSO I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD ||VRTRA'S|| VA IS THE SAME VAS AS FUCKING GOSETSU
ramifications of elder primals death
||when Zodiark died, the rules he weaved to keep a star alive were undone. so should not the sundering be undone too with hydaelyn passing?||
||does a vase fix itself when the hammer breaks?||
as for why the first works ||hes sundered but hes still the source of the rules, so even shattered he still keeps the rules up, until we beat him of course||
If ||killing hydalean unsundered everything||, don’t you think the ||Ascians|| would’ve started with that
good analogy||
i have the idea that hydalyns power is like a buff that created the reflections, and weakning the source aspect or characteristics. well since they said that calling the shards reflections is not wrong
so by removing the caster, the speel would fall apart, since the spell zodiark cast to keep the world alive (weaving the rules anew) was undone too||
since hydalyn defetea eikon that contains the power of half population, i think the remaining 3 were not betting wining the figth
nah ||what zodiark did is rewrite and maintain the rules of the world like a endlessly running program basically, while hydalyn quite literally just split a mofo into 14 (technically the planet)||
Upon maxing out ALL other zones shared fate ranks they can be purchased for 100 bicolor gemstones in sharlayan iirc
damn that's unfortunate
So... basically... no@next sedge
1k cap is disappointing, not sure what to spend them on
when and where do we unlock role quests?
85 ||after radz incident||
||gotcha, I'm actually doing that now. just finished the dungeon||
the radz dungeon? it's way later than that, when you can attune to the aetheryte.
|| Tataru was a pretty difficult final boss ||
||i agree they really didn't need to make it a 10 phase fight||
lmao
the ||Ophiotarous leather|| from ||Elphis|| sells well. ||Dyanmis Crystals|| are needed as well.
the game doesn't specifically mention role quests being required to advance 6.0 msq, does it?
I'm guessing they unlock AF gear?
Role quests:
- are not mandatory
- do not unlock AF gear
- only unlock the ability to dye it
they only unlock the dyeable version of the Artifact Gear
LMAO this cutscene xDXDXD
Oh, so they only give additional exp and lore then..?
AF gear is unlocked via doing MSQ as it has been for ShB
you also just get to dye it upon completion of role quests, no second dyeable version is given so it's more convenient
Well for SHB you had to do the role quests for msq
and I clarified you did not need to for EW
Am I able to replay the last duty? ||I want to punch zenos in the face again||
in a few months when 6.1 comes out and 6.0 gets added to NG+
Okay cool, thanks
||https://i.gyazo.com/72ffed72b7609bdef4c18aca9ec356e6.mp4 came out all brave and all with diginity then when alisaie ask with surprise that he's not cold, and he exposed immediately.||
who knew that the ||moon|| was closer than the far east is to half of eorzea
Tataru’s coinmancy once again saves the day 
spoiler tataru buys out the final boss and crisis is averted
you didn't show far east price
Bro, I didn’t make it to that trial yet, spoilers
Bro this Endwalker piano piece makes me so damn sad
What accent is Erenville supposed to have? I can’t tell
i bet australian cuz y'know
the ||bunny boy? icelandic male||
Flow is such a nice song, but it kinda makes me sad when I listen to it
is one of the lyrics about Yshtola getting stuck in the lifestream again
I swear yshtola's cat tree is the life stream
lol that should be a thing
Yeah, the || toad expert || . His accent baffled me
||all viera have icelandic accents, generally||
Lets play guess the class by the armor. EW edition
summoner
bard
You would think, but its actually DNC Aiming gear. I don't understand the gear looks anymore.
88 spoiler || Fuck Fourchenault, seriously. Treats his kids like shit, disowns them. When they pull off the impossible task that means he doesn’t have to do anything anymore, suddenly they’re family again. ||
they added smn horn to fucking aiming?
isn't that just Shadowless Caster gear
i was close with bard. is the headpiece available for all aiming?
OH that's the arena armor reused for 86
right. forgot about the stupid horn for aiming there
It pales in comparison to even the smallest SMN dong
YO ||WAS THAT A FUCKING GARLEAN IN THE FORUM SEAT?||
Do we know yet if there’s gonna be a Bozja/Eureka-esque area in a future patch
woohoo!
Ooh that’s nice
the sharlayans spend forever preaching about how violence is never acceptable and they should never get involved in war
they created the only healer class that heals more as it deals damage
lmao tails poke out of the cape on the artifact armor
really makes you think
wheres that from?
so is stardew vally mode coming at 6.1?
Ok so we're getting the first raid on the 21st right? Or is that pushed back?>
I thought someone mentioned it in here, maybe the grapevine is lying to me
wheres the tomestone vendor after doing msq
Radz at Han
Probably rad at hanzhna whaterver it is spelled
It's always in the second main town
HW: Not in Foundation but in Idyllshire
SB: Not in Kugane but in that place full of sand
ShB: Not in the crystarium but in eulmore
EW: Not in Sharlayan but in gadgetzan
Endwalker MSQ question
|| is the "Endwalker" quest the last for this patch? ||
||Yes, although technically there's another one after||
Gotcha, thanks for the answer
why is everyone making fists this expansion? was i just not paying attention before?
making fists?
like shots where they zoom into a characters hand and we watch them make a fist
because they angy
and zooming in a characters face is already creepy enough this expac
end of the world makes people angrier than normal 
just finished endwalker. Quick question:|| who was that ascian at the very end? Elidibus or Azem?||
might be onto something t here
|| Judging by the attire and voice probably Elidibus ||
||im pretty sure it’s elidibus as he did say he saw us there||
||I thought the voice was him but wasn't totally sure||
What’s the one after
|| Also the Azem of that time is whatever gender your character is, I'm playing a female yet the voice/appearance was that of a male so ||
ah yeah good point didnt consider that
||i wonder what azem looks like if you play hrothgar||
|| probably Hyur-ish like everyone else ||
Lvl 88 spoiler ||when urianger meets the parents of some girl who died, I couldn't remember who the life of me who she was. Can anyone give me a refresher?||
Oh one more thing: ||did we kill Zenos or what? Scene just kinda ended||
||the girl who gave you a way to kill ascians in ARR||
Moenbryda
The one where you talk to all your friends and shit
🤷♂️
||tall girl. gets killed by the ascian who no one recalls the name of||
I remember her name 🤔
Nabriales
Ah thx
She was Urianger's love intrest
moenbryda
That he made a doll of
And created the methods to trap ascians in white auracite
It was killing me trying to remember who it was, it's been so long since I've heard of her
oh so she was??!! That makes sense.
That we shouldn’t wonder about too much
No I know moenbryda. I was referring to the ascian
Nabriales
Oh okay I thought that was under the same quest
Childhood friend and love intrest, yes.
So her death REALLY fucked him up.
yup
And he never really got time to mourn or come to terms with it
AWWWWWWWWWWWW.....awwwwwww.....poor Urianger and yeah i know ||im remembering the scene on the moon. Like bruhhhhhhh.||
dude.....I feel so bad for him.
might have been, I dont' remember
Urianger is fine now 😌
Not to mention Urianger is constantly thrust into being the ||double triple mctwist agent||
Urianger has had it rough.
urianger has thancred now
Meanwhile WoL alone now 🤔
I feel like role quests hint at the future too, but ive only done the melee one
I did the Ishgard/Caster one
I mean for now but like... we still has G'raha jumping at the bit to go on an adventure/honeymoon.
Tbh all the scions were like if we need them they'd come back, tho i doubt it 🤔
maybe like hey dungeon nearby where they currently are, they are here for the ride
for future dungeons
Well they still got the linkshells
At the least we're prolly guaranteed to see the twins again
Probably
wouldnt doubt it
Is ||Tower of Babil supposed to be a play on Tower of Babel||
Yeah, it pretty clearly is
||are you asking game wise or biblical ||
|| Zenos mentions using it to reach the gods to consume them ||
||Which was going to be zodiark, until danny did it first||
It’s basically the story of how humans speak many languages. Basically humans according to the bible originally spoke one language and planed to build a tower tall enough to reach heaven and god, so this naturally pissed God off so he struck the tower down and made humans speak many different languages so they couldn’t communicate and rebuild the tower
I wasn’t gonna go that spoiler heavy, lol
Tower of Babel is a mythological tower that was being built to reach all way into heaven, it took centuries to thousands of years to be built and changed craftsman between ruling nations due to wars and conquer of times.
Okay i see thanks
it's used few times in novels and mangas
It “has all the world’s knowledge” iirc
Paul McCartney by 'Wonderful Christmastime' but all the lyrics are THE MOON IS RIGHT
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OMG you guys sage is fucking amazing!!
I thought sage was sage, not fucking amazing 
sage is fucking who?
Very inappropriate, why would sage be fucking anyone?
Buncha nerds
Is there an inn in old sharlayan?
Baldesion annex
Yea, at the baldesion annex
Hi what is the use for Litturgy of the Bell
awesome thanks!
just think of it as an aoe regen is one way to look at it
ok but it has short activation time 15 s
and there is condition that people get damage right? so I have to precast it just before mechanic
Yep, it can be used for stacks as well imo
ok
Why does ||Argos ||look like that one dog in the weird japanese commercial
Funny commercial for some japanese chips
does anyone have any idea where to grab the magic dps role quest "Only Justice, Only Vengeance"? had to leave cause i was underleveled and i have no idea where to go back to pick it up
ok i think there is a big plot whole here... ||IF hydalin was working with the forum or could easily speak to us through the Aitlascope then why go through the whole ordeal with minfelia?||
Are there patch notes to be read somewhere?
not the exact location but if you look into the journal entry for the previous one at the bottom youll get a general feel the location as well as who you need to talk to
at some point ||Hydalin should have been like, oh if communication gets weird or whatever tell the forum to hand u the phone||
lodestone as always
Also if I'm asking, have they changed the Astrologian? I can't use Diurnal or Nocturnal sects anymore. (I'm kind of new to the gamee)
yeah astro got switched to be a more raw healer like white mage cuz sage is a new shield healer like scholar
astro no shield healer anymore from what i understoof
So no sects anymore?
oh tyty the journal said who to talk to to get back into the instance, was losing my mind LOL. thans!
yeah they turned shield astro into sage
neutral sect still gives temporary shields if i understood
.. That blows
No sects.
Sage does what Astro used to, then?
i mean your star is gigantic now
My what now
the bomb thing
the stars you place on ground
the star covers the whole arena it's glorious
im just lvl 46 lol, what bombs
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/443994
heres the job changes and no sage does its own thing its just now we have 2 raw focused healers and 2 shield healers
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instead of astro being both a raw and shield healer
well if u dont know the before you wont be impressed lol
astro is still mostly about buffing sage alters his skills do to different things
sage is have a heal budy and dps to heal and you have mini dark knight gimmick
It didn't provide passive anything before so it becoming a raidwide heal and damage makes sense
as opposed to being the size of the asylum bubble
so what's the trial mounts this time?
i dont like the whm final skill.. feels too situational
so meow?
ahh, the couerl mounts
Heeeey you back!
I was busy not getting spoiled and had to dip
How was EW?
Did you get a bingo?
I just finished it yesterday, so here I am
so we had horse to dragon horse, bird to phoenix, dog to ... uhhhwotsit, dragon to mechadragon, cat to... uhhhwotsitmeow
I know someone pinged be 3 days ago in a spoiler thead to tell me I was right about something. And I know I was about a few things
Man, Hydaelyn and Zodiark ended up looking nothing like those cave paintings
are the role quests in enw required in the same way they were in shb
Alot of my predictions were right... but in all the wrong ways..
yes but phys dps are split
I know right?
Like that story went ALL over the place.
They are not required this time. I actually skipped them because I wanted to save the EXP
oh that kind of required LUL
and don't forget there's a no spoilers tags needed thread in lore-spoilers
ty, skip time
The job quests start at 85 though which... kinda stinks for powerleveling
its fine my wars at 89 ill alrd waste enough exp just via msq 
just so you know, if anyone wants a fucking sick scythe glamour...
the scaeven scythe and the trial scythe are both fucking sick as hell
just saying
problem is SCAEVEN SCYTHE ISN'T IN RHAGAR REACH SO WHERE THE FUCK AM I FINDING IT
I was vastly overleveled for the majority of the MSQ
kugane)?
?
it is though
no srsly i checked the guy there, it wasn't there
And the PLD changes
scaeven nouliths, too
all weapons but not scythe.
Oh god. Those PLD changes make me so goooooooooood.
PLD is now the comfort tank
|| a certain someone has yet to divulge her plans. what will your journey take you? ||
|| oh im gonna kill hydaelen and zodiark a ffew more times then try to run some dungeons for more gear. you know how it is ||
Well, I need coffee now and then I will go back to leveling RPR. I want to see its job quests more
damn. look at those waves
HOW FUCKING DARE YOU GAME, HOW DARE YOU SAY THIS WOMAN IS DOING BETTER THAN ME
YOU KNOW NOTHING GAME.
spoilers 
yes she is though.
Anyone in midgardsormr also in infinite login q
is the sage quest fairly long
shit the lv88 white WAR wep might make me pick up the job 
is it hot
No. It's not on fire.
but it's white, how is that possible
It's an oversized pizza cutter
which one, unlocks are as short as they always are
and each levels quests vary in length
It’s not oversized it’s just for ascian pizza
Anyone else feel it was kinda inappropriate for 89 Trial || Hydaelyn to use the Flood of Light as an attack
||
omg
||urianger finally get the closure.||
i'm a mess now. i need tissues and shower. i feel dirty. dammit this story
it hurts even more when ||the team admitted they regret killing off moen cuz they thought she could have more potential later. but this was great too.||
anyone know if there are any mounts for the ex trials? what are they? google didnt show shit
cat apparently
i FUKING KNEW IT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA IM SO HAPPY
not so fast, they use lynx models

They’re literally called lynxes
but they are cats
I’m not sure how many more people can die
laughed hard when i saw that
has anyone found where the pixie wings come from yet? I see 1 one the marketboard already
killing fairies obviously. go back to First and start a genocide
Finally finished Endwalker and damn that was a good story expansion. Kinda crazy how good it is considering it's a MMO, a game genre that generally has mediocre story.
did you miss HW, SHB or what
But it’s a final fantasy
HW and SHB were also good but Endwalker is honestly at a whole new level
Though they've been building up to this expansion for what, 8 years?
longer actually.
Endwalker ties so much together that its kinda difficult to rank it by itself
they didn't start with ARR, they built it off the original.
the original was... 2002? idr
wtf theres no ex for the last trial?
SPOILER
saying last trial is a spoiler?
saying there's no ex is a spoiler
thats not spoiler lol
its a question. i dont know the answer
that fight was rough im ok with that for now
no its not
it's the same way every xpac with the last trial
and thats not a spoiler regardless
Do you mean pre-ARR? If so then that was released 2010
But really all 3 trials were so much fun.
ahhh ok thank you. do you kn=oow if the ex mounts for the first two are obtainable rn?
ah yeah 2010, 11 years to peak the story yeah
It’s always been the first 2 trials that get EXs in X.0
ya
i s that to me?
last trial will get ex fight in .1 patch prob
Please tell me in || Hydaelyn EX the waves move fast 🤣||
yes
ty
do we get white ascian gear or not dammit
ive been playing for hours and i still dont have itttt D:
do you...want me to tell you where and when?
what level D:< thats all i want
i should be wearing it on the mooooooooooooooooooon D:
level doesnt matter, kinda
I forgot what level range it's at but zone 5 spoilers ||Is there an orchestrion for the version of Flow that plays when you fight a certain someone in a solo duty?||
ah uhm... you may want to continue then cuz you're not getting it for a good while
;-; dammit SE
ehhhh thats a stretch fate
don't worry you'll love it there
|| you get it after youre completely done with the moon in the first quest or 2 of the next area || @gaunt star
I figured out the moon's uhhh.. i cant rememebr the word benefactors??
oh then in like ten minutes then
you are lv 84. and quest is 83 ||it'll be 3 levels ahead, because it's zone 5.||
now i forgot
im 86. slightly overleveled
ah, well the relevant lvl is msq
||i remember when I got the ascian robes, I immediately saw everyone around me glam to them instantly. was a nice little moment to see how into the story everyone was||
89 || are we using Hydaelyn’s corpse for rocket fuel?
||
yes
damnit what was the word they used....
Dude there’s always no final trial EX on release
Collaborators
i dont think it was that
it is that 
I mean. It was, but ok
IS IT? THATS WHAT THEY SAID IN GAME?
Benefactors, they say benefactors
Fandaniel was a lot less of a mess than I was expecting
||oh you'll see.||
||yes actually you get it when you finish the story
||
||Isn't that just the regular version of Flow though?||
I haven't actually listened to it yet lol
Ugh. Damn. I’m should be getting to last zone shortly here and now everything crashes
neither have I lol but I remember someone saying that
if it makes you feel better, I got a DC right after the final dungeon
oh my god that would break my heart
I had to get up and take a walk to cool off lmao
||Hello, at Old Sharlayan Studium, how do i access the scrip exchange person?||
I will not error 2002 you
Like rationally I know there’s nothing to be done about it and it’s unreasonable to be mad about it, but this is so frustrating
You can be mad
its not at all unreasonable to be upset about it
Not being able to play sucks if you wanna play
its normal. its called being human. dont ruin your life over it but who says you cant feel out your emotions
Well. Yeah. Time to break out the switch and stare at a queue window, woo
so..... was it collaborators?
Does it matter, they mean the same thing
yes
||cid sounds different|| level 88 spoilers
||When you first get to Radz-at-Han||
||zenos beating up a lalafell im not sure if i should be mad or proud|| lv 90 spoiler
That scene was so cool
90 spoiler ||its my favourite scene purely because I'm a lalafell scholar suddenly throwing fists with zenos||
SAME, i was confused
best way to approach it IMHO
||Same, sage Lala throwing hands at Zenos here||
Congrats on making it to the end, freddy
Why is this ||soldier duty|| so annoying
i woke up at 1:30 am to play the game, what has my life become
||stealth is a vital part of metal gear online||
Also thats probably my favorite duty in the game tbqh
It makes you appreciate being a walking badass dont it
But its stakes
wheres my stealth mmo where the goal is to never meet another player
Its consequence, even. You have to really give a shit about what you are doing and why you are doing it
theres plenty of those
can i skip credits btw
Who the heck decided that having NPC follow you but you can't mount or teleport is a good idea?
a shitty gameplay designer
I mean the teleport thing makes some sense but not being able to mount is bleh
I thought they learned their lesson from /beckon leves in ARR
oh fuck those
ah yes weve removed the need to /beckon now!
@marsh osprey and ye skip credits is fine
Theres 2 sets of credits though i would watch rhe 2nd
im in the cutscene credits now
||You get to see what its like not being the main character for a bit
||
IM ON THE LAST GOD DAMN QUEST LET ME IN
At least let NPC have their own Mount like in the stresstest trailer

||Soldier duty|| is alright imo, it's just a much longer roleplay
Also speaking of things: ||where the fuck was that big omega in the benchmark trailer||
savage raids maybe
@sonic atlas ill pray for u
||I dunno I loved the leadup to it. Getting fuckin' scooped like that as the WoL, when that happens to other people who'd be nutso enough to take us?! was great.||
or its a unsed asset they took for the trailer, who knows
click this if ur done msq || I SWEAR TO GOD IF GRAHA DOESNT COME BACK IM GONNA DIE INSIDE||
I mean you already know the answer to that
||It didn't really make a whole lot of sense to me. if zenos wanted to stoke your rage he could have just as easily kidnapped a scion instead of you and that probably would have been more effective. also never really explains why fandaniel is so willing to go along with it and just be comically evil for seemingly little reason||
||Seems that it's one of the world boss fates like Odin and Archaeotania||
he doesnt?
Sorry, not gold star
level 87+ msq spoiler question: ||is meteion some deep lore thing or was it just like "it was her all along. you didn't know because i just made it up" kind of thing?||
Hes ||fine||
||Yeah that does raise the question that if an Ascian could do that at any point theres really no reason we should be alive
||
DO U PROMISE?
Yes
||yeah, love to death the msq as I did that part broke immersion a little bit for me, just didn't seem to make much sense||
||the omegasimp will be fine||
||the ancients literally did not know what caused the end of days. The whole elpis arc is to explain it||
Good image
oh my god
||To be fair though if the Ascians actually acted like they were 12k years old (even Fandaniel there is like what, a couple thousand being Amon?) with all the experiences and knowledge about humans thereof there also wouldnt be a game lol so I guess I just rolled with it||
This is a FATE boss, it's already documented a bit.
||the highs of endwalker are so astronomically high that minor stuff like this doesn't really bother me in the end||
Yeah also it probably would have made more sense if we didnt blow through 30+ hours of content in like 3 days
i mean I dutifully read and watched everything
Sure, but its definitely not how its meant to be consumed
i'm just a nerd and had a lot of free time this weekend
considering they release raids just 2 weeks after and actual endgame 4 weeks after where you need all crafters and gatherers and mayhaps more than one job
its meant to be consumed quickly
i actually prefer to do it this way since I feel like earlier stuff remains fresher in my brain at the end
||if I had a nickel for every time birds were associated with genocide, I'd have two nickels which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice||
||third time´s the charm||
but yeah this MSQ was quite long and while I am finished I don't think the dev team meant for it to be done in like 3 to 4 days. I played in pretty long bursts but prolly not the norm.
the game is designed for you to take your time
||if i had a nickel for every time alisaie interacted with a young human girl who then proceeded to die in a horrible way, id have two nickels which isn't a lot, but its weird that it happened twice||
@late aurora ?
Yeah you can more or less go at whatever pace ya want
and now we have 3 ex trials to prog on top of leveling everything o.o
2 right now
when we get the third
later
6.1
I've never messed with an ex trial unless I could run it unsynced but since everyone is gonna be running around like headless chicken guess i can give it a shot
Mark spoilers smh
now's the best time to start. in my experience raiding when content is new is always better since everyone is learning with you
OOPS YEAH
We forgive you but next time
thank god my brain didnt mention ||endsinger or hydaelyn||
such devastation, this was not my intention
They have a fate pun for such devastation in ew
such hydration hopefully
Also i know in my heart of hearts that the cape westwind meme influenced ||the return of rhitalyn in dungeon 5||
ooooh
||Yeah I immediately laughed ||
||I had no idea who the hell that was. Asked people I was running with and they drew a blank too||
||that's exactly what i thought lmao. square finally did him justice (ish)||
Also ||Aitiascope|| music so good
did they ||rework the original cape westwind though||
Not yet but i think i heard something about it
Kinda funny that Fandaniel|| somehow ended up with 3 boss fights||
maybe they will do that at a later ew patch
what were they?
He’s the real rival character
||Crystal tower, EW Trial 1 and EW dungeon 5.||
ooooh now i get it
Where. Are. My. Robes. >:C
||EW dungeon 4|| counts as well
if ya wanna be technical tho ||you could count Dungeon 4 as well||
Soon, ning
to be honest I am still kinda fuzzy on how the ascian cycle works exactly
nice.
must be a reaper main
oh yeah idk if i noticed but were there even any hunter-scholar npcs in the areas?
Is it? You mean the screaming about SCH was actually unwarranted? 
cuz i wanna know hints whatnot for S ranks hunts
I mean i just press glare 3 and its fine @marsh osprey occasionally i hit the notification bell
Notification bell
I'm dead.
||so tank role quest get you to have a dating out with senna. hot hot hot||
I needed a few seconds to understand then laughed
gonna make a shitty macro that says "subscribe and hit that bell, gamers"
i dont get it
Lmao and it works because cd is so high that the clip doesnt matter
Theres a whm skill that summons a bell
mmm taco bell mage
srsly?
It was warranted but doesnt mean scholar cant heal or migate with barely any gcds
I have yet to do my role quest. really hyped now thank you
Whm is just really awful with the nonexistent amount of ogcds
Ah
don't forget to bring gifts.
Yes
Thank you, SCH type person and yes that does actually sound terrible
I dont WHM too much
Hey at least we can weave whenever the goddamn hell we want now
Too much...at all.
Sorry if this is off-topic, but anyone have an idea for when the 6.0 album comes out?
Years out, likely
are there dummies at radz at han?
Ah okay thanks for the answer
i don't believe i've seen one, but i have a hunch it's by airship landing for whatever reason...
nope. turns out its in burning field in thav
On a sidenote i wonder if they started banning the always online people
because theyre evading queues
But are they actually doing something
i am
Tbf they cant do much i think
well yeah but they can find people who are actually not doing something
Thats manual work, i think gms have better stuff to do
ya
A lot of homeoffice people staying online and just occassionally moving to stay online until they are offwork 
Just realized there's been so many custom animations this expac. Even we got some
I like to imagine it's Soken in a mo cap suit

Why does urianger look so fucking weird in the menu cinematic lmao
wdym
I'll get to it, hold on
also how is ||meteion so strong? like how does her despair affect etheirys from all the way at the edge of the universe?||
||she has multiple other sisters carrying that same despair.||
||shes a hive mind and shes using a power source that makes up more than 60% of the universe||
||she is one, and she is many. you get it?||
Moon's not haunted. ||the sun is. loads shotgun||
89 Trial || For one of her attacks, Hydaelyn has a voice line of “near, far..” . Is Hydaelyn Celine Dion
||