retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[fierce wing]

||Literally only 2 dungeons and Duty Roulettes.||

[iron rune]

dont see it anywhere.. hm

[fierce wing]

||Is your MSQ finished?||

[iron rune]

||nope, im about to do the final day trial||

[woeful dagger]

Then that is why

[fierce wing]

||Gotta finish to unlock.||

[iron rune]

ohh okay my bad

[fierce wing]

ok level 88 CRP, i'll go see how much xp a levequest gives.

[languid wadi]

So ummm....when do the role quests unlock? I'm level 86, and just did the third dungeon and nada

n ot looking for major spoilers

[fierce wing]

||1.4mil - 2.2mil xp, about 10-20% of needed xp to level||

[crisp meteor]

[fierce wing]

||Soon, when u unlock Hans aetheryte, around there||

[languid wadi]

thanks /quickly leaves channel

[gentle steeple]

UNTIL LEVEL 100 LIMIT COMES

[cedar portal]

I heard yesterday that the HUD trick still works to prevent AFK?

[high swan]

[ancient linden]

God this storybis cutscene heavy in length and girth

[frail meteor]

Yes 4117 queue here. Dont any of these nerds go to church and need JESUS?! Gonna start rubber banding my controller So I stay logged in

My queue went UP from 4117 to 4118 wtfff

[pearl crow]

||has anyone done a frosty reception yet? i found thancreds part kinda hard but idk if that’s just me||

[shell sand]

||not at all. Abuse the stealth. You don’t need to fight them all too||

[pearl crow]

||i didn’t know how to get to the control panel with all the enemies there, is there something i’m missing on how to use it?||

[shell sand]

||one ability for stealth and other to use it while invisible to knock them out. Theres also a bomb to stun dogs||

[pearl crow]

|| when i interacted with something my stealth went away and i got uncovered so i thought maybe stealth killing them was good but the slashers are around||

[tawdry jewel]

Anyone know where to get this ? i cant access Gamstone Trader

[shell sand]

||position yourself in an angle that they wont spot you. Its not hard all you need to do is plant explosives, go invisble go to the one guarding the next entrance, knock it out and go again||

[shell sand]

||its all about timing too||

[static niche]

did we actually

[river iris]

And we're having one of the best MSQ quests, yeah right

[wind bough]

Tag spoilers.

jesus

[static niche]

what? but isn't this channel literally spoiler?

[wind bough]

Story discussion is allowed but tag spoilers.

That should be a no-brainer.

People are at different points.

[odd cloak]

am i in heaven

only 1,999 queue

[pearl crow]

||i gave it another try and only got detected by one this time!! thanks for the advice :)||

[marsh osprey]

am i playing ||ffxiv: kingdom hearts colab now or what||

[quaint urchin]

had a 3000 players queue

got error at 15 players left, now im in a 13000 players queue,gotta appreciate the servers

[vast shuttle]

has anyone gotten the ex trial mounts yet?

[iron rune]

what is there to do once msq is completed? farm up tomestones?

[marsh osprey]

ex trials

and hunting gear i think

[iron rune]

whats an ex trial?

[shell sand]

||good job! Glad I could help :)||

[marsh osprey]

extreme trials, more difficult versions of the normal ones

in 2 weeks we get normal raids

[iron rune]

how do u access them? sorry for all the questions

[marsh osprey]

in 4 weeks theres savage raids

idk where to unlock havent finished ew msq yet

[iron rune]

oh okay

[grave raft]

||the last quest of level 85 msq||

[crisp meteor]

🖕

[grave raft]

||finish the msq and talk to the wandering minstrel in sharlayan||

||you need ilevel 560, so probably get your AF gear and farm up some tomes so you can buy some better accessories||

[iron rune]

sounds good

[humble heron]

Well i wrapped about 45 minutes ago. Very good stuff from yoship and the whole team

[marsh osprey]

im at lv 86 quests and did 3 dungeon, how long will it take still?

[loud violet]

where do i find lvl 90 gear?

[obsidian smelt]

|| gotta ask again, but where do we get the new at gear in endwalker? I don’t want to complete the story until I have it.||

[loud violet]

||all gear up to 89 is basically spoon fed to you, but im still looking for 90 gear myself||

[shrewd crystal]

Tome gear is lvl 90

[static niche]

fuck this solo duty is cruel ||those damn dungeon crawling rpg theme||

[obsidian smelt]

|| I ment artifact gear||

[cyan pawn]

Woah.... ||Zodiark|| fight felt like a mastered recreation of shinryu- Whoever created that fight deserves a medal.

[shrewd crystal]

Old Sharlayan

[humble heron]

Youve got quite a few hours left

[iron rune]

where would i find the hunting gear?

[obsidian smelt]

|| thanks! Do I need to be lvl 90 right?||

[marsh osprey]

fuck

[shrewd crystal]

||Lvl 89 to wear, but need to be 90 to unlock dyes due to having to complete the job quest line||

[quaint urchin]

He meant you are gonna hunt gear

[sonic atlas]

the glorious red sky.

[iron rune]

... damn im dumb

[quaint urchin]

xD

[obsidian smelt]

|| role quests? Or the standard job quest?||

[sonic atlas]

omfg

[iron rune]

just click top

[shrewd crystal]

||Role quests, healer/tank/melee dps/mage/range dps ones :^)||

[obsidian smelt]

|| got it! 🙂 ||

[marsh osprey]

i cant stop laughing

[humble heron]

||the gang bullies emet-selch||

[undone zodiac]

When do gemstone traders get more items in stock?

[fierce wing]

when u clear 6 and 60 FATEs in the area

[robust crescent]

that ||anima boss fight was insane||

||so far EW is 2/2 for amazing end bosses in dungeons||

[undone zodiac]

Do all gemstone traders have different or the same stock?

[fierce wing]

6 Fates is the riding map for mount speed so SDS Fenrirs can become inferior. 60 is for the area specific items like minions, triad cards, furniture etc

[errant perch]

???? wont even let me into the queue

[crisp meteor]

i finally got into game

almost took 2 hours

[late aurora]

Free trial?

[errant perch]

nope

[woeful dagger]

that means you dc'd and your character is still not logged out in-game.

[errant perch]

never got in. maybe my sub ran out

it says my sub will renew on the 23rd

[fierce wing]

You're EU?

[errant perch]

us

[spice quarry]

does anybody know where in Radz-at-Han is the new tomestone vendor is?

[errant perch]

I keep getting this message. no idea whats happening

[fierce wing]

||West Bazaar||

[spice quarry]

weird, I only have icons for shops in the right lane, but not the left

[fierce wing]

MSQ done?

[spice quarry]

still have some quests left

[fierce wing]

Yeah.

[spice quarry]

am at|| Roads paved Sacrifice|| atm, any idea how much I have left?

[fierce wing]

||8 more quests||

[spice quarry]

nice, ty

[fierce wing]

||Which is 1 dungeon + 1 raid away as well||

[spice quarry]

ooh, sweet

thanks a lot

[humble frigate]

We are desperately trying to get through the ||Zodiarc Fight|| and our dancer uses LB3 when half our team is dead. Pain

[amber quarry]

sad version of answers plays

[inner swan]

Bump

[inner ice]

ohno

[gaunt star]

so far playing EW, not done with it, but I think its going to be my favorite along with SHB. I am not sure which one I like more. Not fully judging it but giving my impression. Really enjoying the story.

[robust crescent]

||gotta love when you're doing your msq and a level 90 enemy one shots you from across the map||

[raven canopy]

Interm of quality of the quest design i think endwalker is better

By quite a significant margin. I havent finish it yet but there are more variety to the quest

[vital brook]

how does this kid has green horns?

[split forum]

This game having the audacity to give me multiple choices, like I won’t always choose to spend time with Graha

[split forum]

[late aurora]

Keep playing

[lament marten]

Is summoner hard to relearn..I saw my hotbar and got a lil overwhelmed

[iron rune]

[fierce wing]

Use party finder

[woeful dagger]

spoiler: ||oh man just wait til you see Urianger later in the story||

[fierce wing]

My server's dead

[woeful dagger]

can you speak Japanese

[undone iris]

is there a special line if you're a healer during the cutscene where ||you're diving groups to go to the tower and you ask if alisae and alphi are in the correct group?||

[fierce wing]

いいえ

[patent sky]

in terms of lore I think shadowbringers is better so far. Quest progression endwalker is better, doesn't feel rushed and we get to know chars better

[woeful dagger]

No. But (Garlemald spoilers) ||you do get a special exchange if you have WHM at 70+ during the Contingent meetup to invade Garlemald scene||

[undone iris]

what's the dialogue like?

[woeful dagger]

||Person just says "an experienced White Mage like you should have no problem with the injured as well|| or some such

[split forum]

Dude, || the terminus beasts are fucking freaky ||

[late aurora]

Doesn’t even need to be 70+

[woeful dagger]

oh idk the level, i just have it at 70 so figured this much

[undone iris]

is it something like Krile's during Zeno's introduction in stormblood? Like "don't just stand there, aren't you a healer?!" kinda flavor text?

[woeful dagger]

basically

[ember forum]

😭 😭 I don't think it's gonna pop anytime soon

[fierce wing]

Isn't it because most people are sleeping already

[late aurora]

You have to actually be using a healer for that line to trigger

[ember forum]

Fast healer queues has spoiled me

[fierce wing]

This is the era of fast tank queues

[ember forum]

I'm sure it would pop instantly if I were to switch to tank

[fierce wing]

Healer queues are fast if you're doing the level 80+ dungeons/trials

[ember forum]

there are level 81 dungeons?

[late aurora]

Of course there are

[ember forum]

I thought someone told me all of that will be available in 6.1 and nothing in 6.0

[late aurora]

It’s a new expansion, they aren’t going to not have content

[ember forum]

so we did get new dungeons and trials available with this patch?

[fierce wing]

||If you really want to know, the answer is yes.||

[ember forum]

I see

[fierce wing]

||The level 90 dungeons have bangers BGM. Smilton is the best.||

[faint dagger]

Can someone who's seen one DM me what the EX trial mounts are this time around? Without spoilers, if possible

[high swan]

Doge

[late aurora]

False, ||cats||

[high swan]

[faint dagger]

Anyone got a picture?

[sinful idol]

so I dunno where to exactly ask 6.0 lore spoiler questions, but I have problems with a quest

can I ask it here?

[fierce wing]

ye

[late aurora]

There’s the 6.0 spoiler thread in #archived-lore-spoilers

[gaunt star]

MSQ spoiler ||when Meteoion start naming all the planets they visited with dead civilizations, damn..||

[inner ice]

holy fuck this mission is cool

[eager field]

man i love the moon stuff

hearing the FF4 battle theme brings back so much nostalgia

[gaunt star]

the moon area is great

[late aurora]

Bun bois unite

[humble heron]

Moon cool

[marsh osprey]

endwalker? more like moviewalker

[static niche]

so to think ||zodiark is a victim too, begging to save the world once more.||

[inner ice]

[static niche]

you just arrived there?

[inner ice]

yes

[woeful dagger]

hope your tear ducts are dry

[weary monolith]

I plan to get a mix of ||zodiark|| and tomes for accessory

[eager field]

||currently at the namingway quests. I literally died laughing so bad seeing the scions clothing, thancred with the leopard print LMAO||

im dead

[stiff pond]

Me too please

[robust crescent]

this first trial is uhh, yeah.

[marsh osprey]

it is... i daresay rather crazy

yet 10 hours later i havent seen the next trial

[gaunt star]

the story of the endwalker ||is honestly pretty unexpected in the direction it went, which is not bad at all but very different than I expected things to turn out so far besides the final day stuff||

[ruby marsh]

Any moons haunted references???

[late aurora]

Just keep playing

[ruby marsh]

im in 5.5

[gaunt star]

becareful for spoilers here/

[late aurora]

Then do the EW msq lol

[ruby marsh]

Yeah i only look here to ask if theres one

[wary mantle]

where is the new tomestone vendor at?

[eager field]

i can only say that it's probably going to be fun for you, doesn't feel like a normal trial at all! i hope you enjoy it

[marsh osprey]

83 was quiet the ride

[eager field]

the garlemald stuff broke me tbh

[marsh osprey]

whens the next dungeon/trial, am on 87 questing

[eager field]

you're close if you're on 87 quest

[marsh osprey]

pog, im content starved

[eager field]

1 on 87-88 / 1 on 90

[weary monolith]

Any siren healer wanna abuse que times, these dps ques are HORRENDOUS, I just wanna get my tome gear man

[hexed mango]

What is the 2002 error and why am I getting it so much today?

I can't seem to play at all today

[hardy wind]

||HOLY SHIT WE ACTAULLY GET TO GO TO THE UNSUNDERED WORLD|| massive msq spoilers about the 5th zone

[dire zephyr]

where is the new tombstone vendors?

[mild gazelle]

its right north of the Radz-at-han aetheryte
left hallway

[dire zephyr]

k thanks

[fierce wing]

gotta finish MSQ first.

[gaunt star]

First dungeon down

[mild gazelle]

Also just found a single absolutely tiny platform floating in the void with absolutely nothing around it in the final zone that for some reason has collision for walking

Surprised cause ive never seen random debris have walking collision like this

[dire zephyr]

i just did, in credits thus was asking

[gaunt star]

https://tenor.com/view/league-of-legends-meme-gaming-gif-21071016

[late aurora]

Banned

[gaunt star]

r u homophobic ?

[hardy wind]

Not the place for that.

[gaunt star]

they do be just kissing tho

[mild gazelle]

Anyone know if the ||Final Day|| trial has the possibility for Orchestrion drop or do we gotta wait for 6.1 for the extreme to get it

[robust crescent]

||I had to solo heal one of the zodiark stacks as a sage, this has confirmed for me that Panhaima is BROKEN||

[late aurora]

And what does that have to with #retired-patch-6-3-discussion? Oh wait, it doesn’t

[eager field]

wtf

[strange beacon]

87 spoilers ||can someone explain to me the significance of venat walking the same way as we were against emet selch people are saying that she's been taking the hits for us but how would that make sense, are me and venat linked||

[mild gazelle]

I think its ||her being hurt and having to bear all the pain and torment the people of Elthyris go through, for their sake, or her being hurt for all the suffering her work to save her world hurting her, and her still carrying on regardless||

[static niche]

ofc

[mild gazelle]

It could be what you said but that could just be done as a like, narrative parallel sort of thing

[woeful dagger]

||Because we were tempered by her since the beginning. She had to make us do specific things so we got to the point of time traveling back to Elpis to learn about Hermes and Dynamis to stop Meteion. That is why her giving us the flower and saying "you are free" was so significant, because it was her, as a primal, actually releasing us which no other primal has done to their subjects up to this point.||

[gentle turtle]

||Why did each of the scions sacrifice themselves to meteion? i didnt understand the plan there?||

[woeful dagger]

@olive spruce ||No, they are just showing you the true face of each Convocation member. That is why we also see Emet's "true face" as well (his hair style), and Hyth as well. It is also where we confirm Venat = Hydaelyn (even though it was clearly very implied).||

@olive spruce ||Hermes/Fandaniel was wearing the body of Asahi so we had no idea what his "original" Amaurotine form looked like, so they just let us know, basically.||

[olive spruce]

thanks

[strange beacon]

i thought shb was peak fiction yet here we are

[hollow temple]

MSQ 85 spoilers ||so, it’s just the despair that turns people into beasts during the final days nothing else? || just to be clear because I’m a little confused, or will this all eventually be explained further?

[olive spruce]

||it will be explained||

[woeful dagger]

||It is all explained later, but Midhana (the elephant alchemist lady) has the correct theory.||

[hollow temple]

Agreed

[hollow temple]

Thank you 😊

[olive spruce]

I wonder what people who followed the entirety of the story since 2.0 feels like about this one

it seems rather... outworld-ish compared to the other ones

[hollow temple]

Starting to wish I followed 2.0 story now or new game + it beforehand.

[olive spruce]

I don't mind, but I would love to know opinion of ppl more passionate about lore

[steady valve]

endwalker without context

[olive spruce]

us both

[marsh osprey]

if you want a nice ffxiv desktop background, heres one for you, ill spoiler it but its not a spoiler, just a starry sky

[woeful dagger]

||The fact that it was revealed we are in a causal loop time paradox deflates basically everything we've done up to this point as it means everything was pre-determined and nothing we did actually matted as it was all planned out by a higher power (two technically if you consider Alexander). People like Moenbryda and Palp dying was essentially meaningless as the time loop dictatced we would always get to this point.||

[olive spruce]

I'm at ||level 87 dungeon|| should I read your comment?

[hollow temple]

Sorta 85 spoiler ||the music in Radz-At-Han during the final days is SO GOOD. ||

[woeful dagger]

||You'll learn everything I just said in that dungeon.||

[olive spruce]

okay, I'll come back to it after it then

[woeful dagger]

||It's the same music as the dungeon, it bops.||

[hollow temple]

||It makes me want to go for a run or something and I hate running ||

[woeful dagger]

kinda just makes me wanna groove.

88 MSQ spoiler ||However the music during the second half of Labyrinthos is beyond horrible music choice and gives me a headache||

[faint dagger]

on the last boss of dungeon 1, how do you do the mech with the massive donut aoe alongside aoes on every player?

[woeful dagger]

||The other stuff goes off first, then you spread out.||

[faint dagger]

common sense made me think that but it seems WAY too fast for that

[static niche]

WTF ||hydaelyn is the moon?!||

[woeful dagger]

||No, Hydaelyn made the Moon.||

[ember forum]

I love being named Alisaie

who's the real alisaie tho

[steep sorrel]

||Erenville|| is my husband

[gusty quiver]

The server had a pride flag as it's header for a solid month before endwalker and this guy out here

[vivid notch]

EW 86: 86 ||WAIT WHAT THIS IS THE BIGGEST REVELATION I'VE EVER SEEN, EMET-SELCH GOT NORTED???????||

[hardy wind]

I want an ||ambystoma||. They are perfect and I need one!

[inner ice]

when do i unlock radz-at-han aetheryte?

[hardy wind]

86

[granite nimbus]

What the heck, all of the Thavnairian alchemists just conked out in front of their own lab.

And woke up when someone brings dragon scales to them.

I thought they were dead!

[late aurora]

They just needed the sauce

[granite nimbus]

Oh, poor Estinien. His cool guy image is falling apart by the second.

First he gets swindled by greedy merchants into paying ten times a fair price, second he gets groped by alchemists who want to draw his blood.

[rose arch]

I’m lovin it tbh

[hushed hill]

Anyone else feeling like bosses and new content is getting melted super fast?

[rose arch]

I feel like I’m in the minority of loving this story though lol

||but I will say it’s a lil slow until you get to zodiark||

[gleaming bough]

Was anyone of the scion pissed on that revelation?

I guess thats why we are having new story past 6.0 as we broke the time loop?

[woeful dagger]

Unsure if anyone was mad personally. But that is just my personal opinions.

[late aurora]

I mean have you played FF1

[torn wyvern]

how do you solve error 2002

[gleaming bough]

If everything is predetermined, then the other source where WoL died still exist

[gaunt star]

MSQ spoiler (After 4th dungeon) ||Fuck Hermes/Fandaniel, even before the first calamity, he was a huge asshole. lol||

[rose arch]

||zeros out here gaslight gatekeep girlbossing everyone after literally destroying garlemald||

[gaunt star]

really? I have seen plenty that like the story, so far

at least most people I speak to

[hardy wind]

I was iffy about it till the moon, since then its been lit

[gaunt star]

yeah, it gets good at the moon mostly

imo, I like it better than shb, but only by a little bit for one reason, but they are both on the same level so far. Mostly only for one reason that I am not gonig to say right now.

[rose arch]

Definitely agree. And it gets even better once you get to ||elpis||

[hardy wind]

im just really glad we get to hang out with ||Emet-Selch again||

[gaunt star]

From what I have mostly seen, most people seem to enjoy the story, and most agree it gets really good at the moond...and most also seem to dislike the garlean part, lmao

[rose arch]

Yeah the garlean part was soooo slow

[gaunt star]

yeah, and the people there are so annoying

like its a slow part and its really hard to feel bad for them imo.

[rose arch]

||the moon with the bunnies was a lil slow too but it wasn’t too long so I’m not complaining||

[woeful dagger]

Oh it gets even slower

[gaunt star]

||When you get to the moon, the story really starts to pick up and with the final days and epis and it is just great.||

[rose arch]

Personally I like stories on a grand scale so EW may be topping ShB for me and I’m only at the single player duty after ||the dungeon with hermes|| so I have a feeling it’s going to get even better

[rose arch]

||elpis|| is my favorite area in ffxiv as a whole and the characters in it are so wonderful. That cutscene with ||venat|| at the end of it was amazing

I’m so glad they didn’t spoil the area in any PR or trailers

[dire zephyr]

trailers did a really good job hinting everything but not spoiling

[gaunt star]

oh, that's really good to hear. I didnt watch any trailers cause I was afraid they would do that

[rose arch]

||i Love that the fight in the CG trailer with wol, Ali and Alphi was actually wol Ali and graha||

[gaunt star]

hey, do we know whose voice is talking at the beginnings of the endwalker msq please ?

[undone zodiac]

oh my god this is so fucking good. They actually make a cameo in here this is so good

It all comes together

[eternal sail]

ono

[undone zodiac]

Emet-Selch, literally his voice lol

[eternal sail]

been at 1 for like 5 minutes

[gaunt star]

thats what I thought, but can't remember his voice, thanks 🙂

I dont remember the story well lol, he's friendly right ?

[eternal sail]

NO GOD PLEASE NO

AIGHT IM BURNIN SHIT DOWN

[late aurora]

Just log back in, it’ll be fine

[tight topaz]

which ilvl is good enough for me to replace my relic weapon? ive done 3 dungeons now, and none of the drops seemed good enough fo me to change my equipment,

[eternal sail]

error 4004

[vital brook]

Bro with how many matangas are in that Tower of Zot i am wondering how are there even some left free

[gaunt star]

relics are skin, you get way better weapons and much easier by other ways

[fierce wing]

the moment the stats are outclassed

[tight topaz]

the last dungeon armor difference was like 2 points, is that good enough for me to change?

[late aurora]

Which would be...86-87?

[fierce wing]

Nah, look for stats. also if u have materia weigh those in as well

[woeful dagger]

If you are a tank it is because of the added defense.

[tight topaz]

also id like to know to use the 539 weapon box on my main or my alt jobs, idk if ilvl 539 will outclass the 535 relic

[eternal sail]

and now its just fucking crashing :/

[woeful dagger]

539 has more damage so is better for melee, but realistically you can keep it for alt jobs since the difference is
and at 89 we get AF gear

[fierce wing]

U can keep for alt. since ur weapon's pretty good imo

[tight topaz]

what does AF mean?

[woeful dagger]

ArtiFact

[tight topaz]

oh

[potent veldt]

I though level 90 would be artifact gear

[fierce wing]

Your real big ilevel jump is when you get the artifact stuff, if all your gear is 530 from Shb, you can actually leave it and just use it till u get 560

[woeful dagger]

It's at 89 and it scales to 90.

[tight topaz]

ok then, thanks n.n

yeah im BiS from shb

[fierce wing]

Because I think it goes from like 542 to 560

[woeful dagger]

Only difference is being a tank, as sitting in 530 makes you very, very squishy when doing the last couple dungeons. If you don't have a healer used to it, might be an issue. So I always recommend tanks take defensive upgrades from the 86 gear.

[tight topaz]

i see

[fierce wing]

You can just live off Dungeon loot as u wean off the ShB gear imo

[forest hatch]

why is the boss music in endwalker such a banger

[woeful dagger]

imagine getting left side from dungeons. i legit only get accessories lmao

[fierce wing]

If you get loot for your class, great. Otherwise carry on till Artifact.

[woeful dagger]

every expansion same shit. no weps, no left side. only accs.

the entire right side dropped for me from 1 dungeon this expansion. so far i got a SINGLE left side piece (helm).

[potent veldt]

When my friends & I started the game, we made a point to keep getting as good gear as we could so we'd be better equipped for the dungeons

Even if it meant getting the lower base gear offered.

[fierce wing]

But then you'd have to run the same dungeon over and over till you're completely geared enough for the next dungeon

[woeful dagger]

the glam tho

[fierce wing]

are ugly they're reused skins

[hardy wind]

86 spoilers ||Anyone else getting bad vibes from Meteion||

[woeful dagger]

||If only you knew||

[static niche]

what the fuck is msq 84 lmfao

[cinder spindle]

YOW WHAT THE FUCK, IF U PLAY IN JP FANDANIEL IS VOICED BY KIRITO FROM SAO

[hollow sapphire]

Just did the first trial. Goddamn that was quite intense, but a very fun fight anyways

[golden palm]

[cinder spindle]

damn that is a great choice

[static niche]

yeah 83 was fucking great

[hardy wind]

||You''ve doomed us all. Why would you kill Zodiark?||

[static niche]

lookin forward to extremebut we all know we won't be getting ultimate ver for a long time

HADES ULTIMATE WHEN
speaking of which are we getting thordan

[robust crescent]

that feeling when a guy name drops a dungeon boss and I get yelled at for saying so far EW has been a great love story to both FFX and FFIV....

[static niche]

RED, PINK, GREEN, AND BROWN

[robust crescent]

some peoples brains just don't work I guess

[static niche]

well yea but consider this...
||jenova music on moon, jenova confirmed||

[gaunt star]

MSQ Spoiler ||Holy shit....Both Emet-Selch and Venat are top tier characters.||

[static niche]

||emet is always top tier, what are you talking bout||

[robust crescent]

but also consider this...
||FF4 town theme on the space ship, FF4 remastered confirmed||

[gaunt star]

||yeah, true. I am just listing the two top tier characters of the ascians, tho||

[undone zodiac]

As a DRG main this kinda hit me in the feels. It feels like yesterday I started those job quests

[gaunt star]

||Zenos got so depressed, he left the story, so far, lmao||

[robust crescent]

||ye this is my favorite expansion, got in a battle on the ship and i'm now sold||

[mild gazelle]

Did the first EX and wow I expected this to be good and I was still blown away

[robust crescent]

||very fashionable, golden saucer approves.||

[dull rover]

anyone knows if there was an NPC added for Triple Triad Memoria card?

[mild gazelle]

Like if this is what we're getting from just the base game EX fights, i am beyond excited to see what the final boss EX and Pandemonium is going to be like

[robust crescent]

even better than the last, no doubt.

[cedar willow]

no context spoiler (if you know, you know) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgNI_haDmAA

[fierce wing]

rip the way of cooking

[versed storm]

6.0 in a nutshell

[robust crescent]

yes, and I love it.

[rose arch]

Not even mad about that

[inner ice]

my heart

[marsh osprey]

holy shit 67 dungeon and the cutscenes

[mental tangle]

Is this never gona end

[plucky palm]

||Amano art looks so good in XIV graphics||

[mental tangle]

Not suprised hidelyn was alwais the evild one

[olive spruce]

for real? ppl aren't enjoying it?

[light willow]

I'm think I'm gonna wait until new years to finish endwalker. I'm on the moon, lvl 83, good stopping point.

too many people trying to log in

[mental tangle]

Im 86

[light willow]

Cool

[mental tangle]

Do ur dailies

They give u like 1m +

[light willow]

i will, on new years lol

[mental tangle]

Im getong tired of this

[versed storm]

cute

[inner ice]

well

[light willow]

exactly why I'll jump back on new years. Let everyone else get it out their system

[inner ice]

that took a turn i was not expecting

[mental tangle]

I dont tinkg im gona be able to play tomorow only have 3 hour afther i retur from mi job

2:30 hours of queue

I know theres a lot of people but squere shuld adrees the mather long ago

And buy new servers

[gaunt star]

Didnt square said they fixed the servers when aether was congested and they stopped allowing characters made? 😕

[versed storm]

didn't SE get new server for NA?

[woeful dagger]

haha good meme

[mental tangle]

The problem is that te capaciti of memori for the servers is to low for like 100m people on nort america

[frigid light]

as an omnicrafter, what's the best thing to craft rn to sell? assuming i can log in

[woeful dagger]

DoH/L gear

[gaunt star]

Idk I thought they said they were preparing for release? 😢

[boreal palm]

Do you guys think EW topped ShB?

[woeful dagger]

if it's available. idk if it is

[mental tangle]

Yes

[mental tangle]

Yes

[frigid light]

hmm okay, i assume the real money comes in once people are looking for the exarchic equivalent of EW

[gaunt star]

So exited!

[frigid light]

not even bothering to try to log in now, but hopefully by the time i can, crafters will still be in a good spot to make $

[mental tangle]

Hmm hard one

Augmented criptlurker gear is a ting

But only 3 dungeons till now

[jolly pond]

I guess this goes here. Can anyone tell me what the level 90 artifact gear is called? Like how 80 was Weathered and Idealized.

[mental tangle]

Zodiack figt was kinda sus

[frosty jolt]

|| is there a day and night cycle in the last area||

[lean ore]

90/ LMFAO

[frosty jolt]

they dont have prefixes, all of them are uniquely named

[jolly pond]

Do you happen to know what the Paladin set is called? Trying to look up info haha.

[frosty jolt]

i know the shield is called the hero's shield

[late aurora]

Sword is lightbringer iirc, because Cecil

[frosty jolt]

is there a day night cycle tho?

[sour merlin]

Happy and sparkling

[steel cedar]

is there anyone here that's finished EW and a lot of side storylines that I can ask some questions?

[rose arch]

Yes so far for me. I’m at 88 tho.

[woeful dagger]

sup

[robust crescent]

i've seen enough references to other FF games for a life time

[late aurora]

Dang I got 906ed

[steel cedar]

so im basically trying to find out which side storylines are relevant plotwise

[next quarry]

the role quests are

[steel cedar]

specifically job quests, especially drk. also sorrow of werlyt, the bozjan southern front, and the nier raids

definitely planning on the role quests and eden raids

[late aurora]

Job quests are job quests, they don’t really affect the plot

[split forum]

I just saw the lunatender queen, she’s pretty

[olive spruce]

u r at MSQ 88 or just lvl 88?

[distant imp]

How/when do you unlock the collectable appraiser in Endwalker?

[robust crescent]

level 84 spoilers

[split forum]

I think I saw one in Thavnair

Idk, there’s a house of splendors rep there at least

[visual python]

question, when, and how, do you unlock the role quests?

[lean ore]

lvl 85 quest

[visual python]

copy

[blazing forum]

is there like some way to get to some of the aether currents on the moon im missing

[lean ore]

you will know when you unlocked them /sip

[blazing forum]

theres just certain like chasms that i cant find a way over

[gaunt star]

What are the 2 dungeon required to unlock Expert Roulette?

[lean ore]

you gotta zoom in the map and look for entry points

i couldnt find one near the loporrit place, until i did that xd

[blazing forum]

i cant find a way over to that place

[late aurora]

From the north

There’s a bridge you didn’t discover

[lean ore]

^

[blazing forum]

huh, ill have a look. thanks

[blissful bolt]

Right there

[rose arch]

Both

[split forum]

Oh hey, that’s where role quests were hiding

[modest palm]

Well shite.

It's not crashing, at least.

[vital brook]

i cant read this shit

[versed storm]

"welcome to the studium"

[prisma vine]

welcome to the studium right

[obsidian smelt]

|| do you have to complete endwalker to get the artifact gear?||

[gaunt star]

anyone died so far?

aside from ourselves trying to get pass queue

[compact wedge]

define "so far"

[next quarry]

i died in trial 1

[vital brook]

NGL Sharlayan feels like the most alive city yet

[gaunt star]

patch 6.0

cause im guessing if not now then maybe post-ew uwu

[compact wedge]

||fandaniel/zodiark, venat/hydaelyn and zenos die, none of the scions||

[gaunt star]

oh those ones I kinda expected

I was hoping for one of the scions to die
oh well

[strange beacon]

i want the ost to (89 spoilers) ||hydaelyns death scene|| so bad if anyone gets it pls send

[clear jasper]

Does anyone else feel like today has been the worst in terms of queue to get into the game? Maybe it's just cuz I tried getting in later than usual but jesus, I've gotten my spot reset like three times now and I've been at it for like four hours on and off

[stiff pond]

Where do u go for the quest to dye the AF gear at 90

[stiff pond]

It took me 6hours and 9 error codes to get In

[next quarry]

its the role quests

[stiff pond]

Danke

[vital brook]

poggers

[feral pike]

I've been seeing posts saying the MSQ story is slow before the 1st trial. I'm lvl 83 rn and haven't seen the first trial yet but I want to say that can't be further from the truth. I'm already mind blown by the story.

[mental tangle]

Wow error 2002 is going wild today

[ebon vortex]

probably a subjective thing really

just like how all you see on reddit/twitter are people with 5-9k queues, while JP servers are at 300-1k queues at peak hours

[mental tangle]

hardcore raider bro only the strongest will survive

By the. Way i saw a lot of sprouds erly on this morning like hundreds on bozja an msq

[pallid fox]

I just finished the MSQ

It was absolutely a ride.

[robust crescent]

I have to actually be a shot caller in the freaking ||zodiark trial||

[mental tangle]

Did u notice its msq kinda harder now

[pseudo umbra]

Are there seriously no images of the EX trial mounts yet?

[pallid fox]

In the last trial, 100%

[robust crescent]

||I'm still unsure how you can tell which meteor location is safe and which is not in that crap... lol
I have one rotation that works half the time, the other half ||

[mental tangle]

That sht was hard bro an its was normal trial the extreme of that sht gona get nerf

[late aurora]

Have you tried FF14 collect

[wary perch]

Why they change fandaniel engllish voice actor?

[late aurora]

They didn’t?

[robust crescent]

if i'm having to lead people as if i'm shot calling my static, you know the trials getting up there.

[wary perch]

The voice sound different

[mental tangle]

Didnt noticed

[wary perch]

Not the same tone as what i heard in shb

[mental tangle]

Bro sages heals are so low

[wary perch]

Probably sound direction change

[vernal sorrel]

I finished MSQ and all the role quests, anyone have any idea why my Artifact armor isn't scaling to 90?

[mental tangle]

I dont wana tank now

[robust crescent]

SGE has really bad proactive heals but from my experience has incredible preemptive shields

[split forum]

|| Hades looks like xehanort ||

[mental tangle]

Escolar > sage

[robust crescent]

just wrong tbh, pet bad.

[mental tangle]

U still die cuz they do more damange that heals

[split pier]

I made a reddit post about some issues, have these been noted/reported you think? https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/r9tfy0/continuity_issue_in_early_access_also_text/

[robust crescent]

as someone who is currently 86 with sage (doesn't have the full picture) but has mained healer since STB release in EX/SVG content, I can say without a shadow of a doubt, unironically, that sage got skill issue'd.

[pseudo umbra]

oh

i am clown of the highest order
i meant more fullsized images

[gaunt star]

i hate obligatory stealth missions

i hate them so much UGH

[mental tangle]

U mean he neds some twiks

[mental hound]

bruh why are all the dudes in this game so hot

[mental tangle]

But reaper is kinda cool

[pale sand]

I don't hate them, but I dislike their frequency in a game that's so questionably suited for it

[mental tangle]

Its like a dRK

[hollow temple]

86 MSQ ||So the Ancients were basically far superior beings?!||

[mental tangle]

The name final fantasy

[mental tangle]

Also taller like 9ft

[safe solar]

and all liked wearing dark robes (mostly)

[mental tangle]

Im gona go for a white reaper

Is just that theres to mtch black

[safe solar]

I'm going grape colored reaper(I'm serious) 😛

[mental tangle]

So we are going to a new star ha thats cool

[pallid fox]

Mines wearing base-colored Scaevan gear, so it's metallic red

[mental tangle]

Wo whats gona hapend whit limsa

Is 1.0 all over again

[robust crescent]

plus I think Sage has probably the strongest 120 CD healer button in the game now tbh

this move feels situationally insane when it comes to min-maxing

[pallid fox]

I don't really understand how to play SGE

[mental tangle]

Thats barrier not heals

[robust crescent]

i'm still trying to figure out how to balance adderst and diosis lol

it feels like it is extremely nice to have them on hand for when you can't slide cast, since sage doesn't have an instant cast button like SCH does

[pallid fox]

They do though

[robust crescent]

didn't know we became #healer-lounge though

[mental tangle]

I wana play monk and sumoner to

Palading is so boring

[hollow temple]

86 MSQ ||I really want Meteion to be as pure as she comes across, please someone tell me if she’s sketchy or not… my heart can’t take the paaaain anymore.|| 😭🤣

[hardy wind]

End game spoilers ||she sketch af||

[mental tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[hollow temple]

😩 I need the twelves blessing to get me through this story

[mental tangle]

Im in xD

[pallid fox]

||She's too good for this world. Too pure.||

[static niche]

||I have a hunch that it works off only one POV, the boss's but that need more checking||

[hollow temple]

||But she’s not evil though? Like is she gonna turn on me and try to murder me? ||

[static niche]

[pallid fox]

||Do you really want to know, or do you just think you want to know?||

[hollow temple]

Well now I don’t know 😭

[strange beacon]

its best if you dont know

[pallid fox]

||I'll tell you if you really want to know, but make sure that's what you actually want.||

[hardy wind]

you dont want to know

[hollow temple]

||How much longer till I find out the truth? ||

[pallid fox]

||The end of the zone||

[strange beacon]

just a handful of quests tbh

[hollow temple]

Then I shall wait

[vital brook]

this is a crossover episode

[hardy wind]

Throw some squapes in there and you've got a partyt

[static niche]

||poor vrtra. losing brother, then sister, then another brother, and now his people. i can't imagine what hes feeling||

||oh god i hope he doesn't lose himself either||

[vital brook]

This expac really feels like it's jumping

[tardy ingot]

To the moon and back

[vital brook]

I got so much progress in only 2 levels worth of MSQ

[humble heron]

It certainly is ambitious

[static niche]

that's why it's so good

||oh you expected zenos zodiark final, BUT IT WAS AME DIO||

[slender python]

Does Sage get a good aoe? If so, what level?

[late aurora]

Define good aoe

[static niche]

i imagine free win aoe :V

[brisk sapphire]

Never have I ever been so frustrated as a tank

In the second trial, there's red stack mechanic, meaning both tanks must stack.
The off-tank REFUSED to stack, he'd literally run away, even after clearly explaining it in chat

[static niche]

O_e

[brisk sapphire]

It's a 80k chunker, I had 63k, I only through them all by healer over shielding and proper cooldown management, but jfc, I have never been so angry while tanking

[hollow temple]

Wait a second ||if this is the final days and the “end” what could possibly be in the upcoming patches story wise?|| Speculations anyone that’s finished? 🤔

[late aurora]

Play the game

[compact wedge]

||a certain character teases some future stuff near the end||

[hollow temple]

Im sorry 😭 my adhd makes me hella impatient and needing to know everything at once 😭

[turbid basalt]

uhm, it's really not the "end" end, more just closure of the arc

[static niche]

omg im so nervous to see this boss for 85

[shrewd cypress]

hey guys im at level 89 msq and i just wanna ask why is ||y'shtola coming with us to a place devoid of aether to fight an enemy with no aether||

[brisk sapphire]

||Token catgirl||

[chilly bluff]

This is new...

[static niche]

lol

[hushed lodge]

damn|| hythlodaeus|| is pretty.

[humble frigate]

So far 100% of people who have marked themselves in the ||Zodiark fight|| have no idea how the mechanics work

[static niche]

oh thank god ||vrtra is okay||

[obsidian osprey]

are you serious?

oh god and we're both primal? Dude wth.

[split forum]

|| oh god, meteion is giving me a feeling of dread ||

[granite nimbus]

Is the armor worn by the Radiant Host in Thavnair obtainable? What about the outfit worn by the Sutrap?

[pallid fox]

Last one, obviously

[brisk sapphire]

CAPE

[coarse meadow]

|| picked Ghra tia when you get to choose who to talk to before bed "Of course thats not the only thing you have to share"
oh they knew what they were doing||

[split flax]

Guess I'm not playing tonight. Sat in line for 4 hours.

[static niche]

they always do

[coarse meadow]

now i gotta go back and pick all of them lol

[gentle steeple]

i just got booted out the game lel

came back to a 4.9k que

[carmine pendant]

I don't care who wins EW, but I hope Sharlayan somehow loses.

[static niche]

TMW a npc says ||ah yes these red eyes, you're with scions|| and I'm like ||but I don't have red eyes, then i forgot g'raha is accompanying me to this quest||

[placid matrix]

||https://tenor.com/view/twitter-pistola-bird-twitter-glitch-twitter-bird-gif-20139509||

[static niche]

oh wow that's sad ||the market guy we meet all way at start, at 80 became the last boss in 85 :(||

[north topaz]

does anyone know where that fawn minion is from? its called "Flag"

[dull lake]

When do role quest ever start?

[wind bough]

level 85

[dull lake]

oh so i'm close

i just did the 3rd dungeon

[pallid girder]

2 more levels for me.
How does one obtain the AF gear in this expansion? Same as ShB?

[vital brook]

Why cant you fuckers just fucking stop being so prideful

[wind bough]

please tag spoilers

[vital brook]

Oh i have to? my bad

[pallid girder]

From another FF game:
||A man's past is his pride.||
To which I say
||No, my pride is shaping the future.||

[static niche]

where do you start role quest

[gaunt star]

is the ending sad?

[wind bough]

Level 85 in ||Radz||

[static niche]

ok

[bleak ravine]

Thancred, don't just throw the word "orgy" out there...

[gaunt star]

Wow er I think I know what triggers it but still

Anyway I just want to know do they treat us any better or do they stay the same ?

[hardy wind]

An orgy with Thancred. mmmmmmm yes please

[spice plank]

is it possible to level 2 jobs through msq or is there not enough exp

[prisma vine]

the ||au ra guy?||

not really enough, it barely scrapes by w/ one job from the news post?

[spice plank]

dang

[pallid girder]

From a friend's experience, they needed to do another roulette or two for their main class during the msq having been red locked, as they temporarily swapped to another class to gain exp

Not a terribly huge problem but appreciate yoship being upfront with it

[hardy wind]

Just level your DPS through MSQ then instant queue your tanks/heals

[spice plank]

instant queue heals? lmao

[gaunt star]

Oh so you can’t just raide the MSQ to lvl 90 ?

[pallid girder]

that's what i do, i leveling my SAM first.

[stable island]

You guys....

Maybe i am crazy, but is this a nice link between this 2 duties?

Heaven: ||The Aitiascope ||
Hell: ||The Palace of the Dead||

Both have dead NPC's in them.

[pallid girder]

Also note that you CAN still level 81-90 in Bozja/Zadnor for your alt classes, but it will take longer, of course.

[hardy wind]

Not now, but later when people realize that sage requires actual skill healing and they realize they hate healing

[stable island]

Yeah, it gives you the level 79 exp there.

[stable island]

Yeah, healing is a job within a job especially during the 3 EW trials.
(Not really a spoiler all Expansions had 3 in the main story.)

[static niche]

fuck that was brutal. EW is peak grade brutality

[gaunt star]

Well here a more er less trigger happy version ||does Garlemald locals treat you any better the further into the zone MSQ you go ?||

[static niche]

||no||

[hollow wraith]

sage is so cool man

[gaunt star]

Sad

[hardy wind]

||Its the worst zone of the expansion, but power through, the last zones are AMAZING||

[hollow wraith]

they gave a healer laser guns

[wanton cloak]

ive had this name since ffxiv 1.0, wtf

[stable island]

Heaven and hell.....
|| The Aitiascope as Heaven and the PotD as hell||

[hardy wind]

You evil fucker. You planned it all along

[stable island]

Dynamis dice?

[wanton cloak]

man. just hearing it ingame just gave me and friends a huge wtf

[stable island]

Well it was foreshadowed in ShB actually, but still a surprise yes

[wanton cloak]

what was?

[gaunt star]

I bear that in mind but still disappointed to hear that the enemy capital isn’t that good

[late aurora]

They didn’t say that

[wanton cloak]

sorry im still at that part with unknow whos

[late aurora]

They just said it’s the worst zone, in their opinion

[hollow wraith]

which is the coolest looking one

[fierce wing]

||The fucking moon||

[stable island]

It is even worse, there is a solo duty most players will hate.

[late aurora]

I don’t know about you. But Zone 5 is quite the spectacle

[static niche]

FUCK THAT SOLO DUTY

[hardy wind]

I thought that was the highlight of the zone

[wind bough]

That duty was rad

[static niche]

it is and that's exactly why it's so annoying LMFAO

[wind bough]

skill issue

[late aurora]

Difficult but like that’s the point

[gaunt star]

||You talking about the MGS style gameplay ?||

[fierce wing]

||I only lost 2 lives because thorns hit for 234k||

[static niche]

i ||beat it first try but yeah it was hard||

[late aurora]

1st try, skill issue

[wind bough]

1st try ez

[hardy wind]

Wait people throught it was hard? I didnt struggle at all

[fierce wing]

Wait what are we talking about

[static niche]

the ||body snatch rpg?||

[wind bough]

Near end of third zone spoilers ||the duty where you're in the imperial body||

[late aurora]

Our After Dinner workout

[fierce wing]

||Oh, i tot y'all talking bout the finale||

[static niche]

[fierce wing]

||wasn't the part where u crawled on the ground great tho||

[hardy wind]

welp, 14/15 currents in the 5th zone. Must be getting close to the last zone

[static niche]

it was yes

[gaunt star]

Well I’m not looking forward to er that solo duty

[echo orbit]

||freaky friday rpg was best part of garlemald, fun little quest, I pity people who tried to brute force it||

[fierce wing]

||I spent so long being sneaky that enemies i beat respawned.||

[echo orbit]

||i only attacked the one enemy that was forced, 100% snuck around everything else||

[hybrid yarrow]

||Erenville has my heart ||

[late aurora]

I legit couldn’t tell if ||their backs were turned at points|| but whatever I made it

[static niche]

did you ||manage to save the sole imperial? cuz apparently he can survive if no attention was caught||

||i never got that cuz i used his ride and after all that he died cuz lol||

[fierce wing]

||I never looked back after clearing the way||

[static niche]

shame

[fierce wing]

I mean im not full sneaky anyways

[lusty hazel]

Why the heck does this expansion feel like I'm playing Xenoblade 1/2. Everything about it is eerily similar.

[brisk sapphire]

Because it's xenosaga 2.0

[stable island]

The official forum is filled with complaints about that one.

[ruby loom]

yeah ||they should definitely keep him relevant. dude was really cool||

[fierce wing]

THINK YOU CAN TAKE ME? DON'T FORGET ME

[brisk sapphire]

I mean Xenosaga's plot is that some singing monolith in space is turning people crazy, isn't it?

[ruby loom]

why though? cause people can't do it without constantly getting caught or what?

[wind bough]

The official forums are filled with headass complaints about everything

[fierce wing]

I mean they managed to make MNK ez to play

I liked playing the least popular class

[late aurora]

“Ironic that you’re on a forum but you can’t read” /s

[brisk sapphire]

I need someone to spoil me something, careful it's level 89+ ||Is Thancred dead? I am going to bed but I am at the part of the story where Meteion unmakes him.||

[stable island]

No, because it has 3 things players don't like.

No auto-heal, role-playing as different character and stealth in a game that is supposed an mmo.

I did clear it on my own, but on very easy.

[ruby loom]

you sure if so click ||no he's not ded but you know this and that. hope you'll look forward to it||

[echo orbit]

wait there's a difficulty setting??

[fierce wing]

||The way the stuff there works is like if you wish u were dead, meteion makes it happen. So you can wish you were dead so that you friends could live. Thanchad did that.||

[stable island]

I agree on that one.

[late aurora]

So like the earlier solo instance minus the auto heal

[brisk sapphire]

||I figured, especially since nobody makes a big deal out of it, I am assuming we're gonna be using the power venat gave us to "give form to things without forms"||

[ruby loom]

by the way, pay attention ||to the music as the zone progresses||

[stable island]

Thanks for the tip in advance, i am near that zone, just picked up my AF5 gear.

[humble heron]

Stealth is a vital part of metal gear online final fantasy 14

[rain onyx]

After failing a solo instance duty, you get the option to give yourself bonus echo

+50% for easy, +100% for Very Easy

[ruby loom]

yeah, also I recommend screenshotting. A LOT. I'm generally not someone who keeps screenshots but for EW I've collected a whopping 531 of them

[stable island]

||The one you are role playing at is a weakling, so low HP and no-auto heal is a pain||

[rain onyx]

Or somewhere along those numbers

[fierce wing]

||Won't lie, but honestly spoiling that part diminishes alot of the actions your friends did as you prog through that area. ||

[brisk sapphire]

I still can't believe that pudding||way dies||

[ruby loom]

||I mean, the thing is there's a dungeon at the end, as there always has been with other expacs there was no way they wouldn't come back in any form||

[humble heron]

Relating to the above convo w snipps and matchstick ||there was absolutely 0 chance thancred, a major character, was just going to die offscreen. It was a clear indicator of what would happen from that very second, in my mind||

[echo orbit]

||wouldn't have believed it even if it wasn't spoiled anyways||

[ruby loom]

yeah. ||funnily enough, it still gave me wet eyes as I progressed through the zone, despite knowing there was no way any of them was truly dead, especially after meteion mentioned their souls were still there. the solemn and melancholic atmosphere of the zone certainly helps with that||

[limber apex]

|| clarification needed: meteions sisters found the stars bereft of hope and life because alll attempts to eliminate misery resulted in loss of will to llive, and what about that made her think that our star should be destroyed? whats a confluence? and what was hermes' plan to make things "fair"? and what was the "trick" they pulled at the end? ffs i fucked up ||

[ruby loom]

||what about that made her think that our star should be destroyed? ||
||she just wants all life to end, even rebirth, because she learned through the ruined worlds that all was meaningless suffering in the end for them and concluded it must be that way for everything||

[glad maple]

I’m so torn idk if I wanna play threw expansion as a. Black mage or mink😩

[twin horizon]

black mage

sextuple cast baby

[limber apex]

|| how doees that make any sense? our star and theirs didnt do the same thing ||

[glad maple]

Lol

[woeful dagger]

||Sorta, she is following Hermes' request, not really doing something of her own volition.||

[ruby loom]

||and what was the "trick" they pulled at the end?||
||They prayed with their emotions dedicated to the WoL. Since the entire domain was basically concentrated dynamis, their wishes became manifest and stronger than meteion, thus helping the WoL defeat her.||

[limber apex]

|| whihc request? all he asked was to find the meaning of life for others and she found despair so she became consumed by it ||

[vital brook]

I am now in ||Garlemald and talking to these NPCs||

[rare sinew]

Thats what they shud be thinking

[woeful dagger]

||Hermes said that once she found her answer, he would share and spread her answer to all of Etheirys. So now that she had her answer, she is sharing it (that the meaning of life is to die) with Etheirys||

[twin horizon]

||id drop a moon too if i was the only race that couldnt cast fireball tbh||

[hardy wind]

All they wanted to do was conquer us and put us in their empire. How dare we resist.

[vital brook]

Not much that, but more like... these people are so very dumb and refuse to ||be helped||

[limber apex]

|| defet WHO? I JUST FINISHED THE HERMES FIGHT ||

[limber apex]

wow

[ruby loom]

@woeful dagger

||Hermes asked her to scout the great expanse to find the answer to what the meaning of life is. Meteions sisters found only misery in other stars and thus concluded that all life was destined to end that way. Connecting each other to their hiveminds then overloaded all of them with negativity which is why she wanted to end life on eitherys as well in order to quicken the "inevitabilty" of the end of the universe and life itself||

[limber apex]

that makes sense || so basiaclly he said even though thats fucked up im gonna keep my promise anbd follow through ||

[woeful dagger]

||Basically. If he gave her a more direct and pointed request instead of leaving it so open-ended, and didn't explain to her that his ultimate goal was to share her experiences with Etheirys, she likely would leave us alone lol||

[limber apex]

thats sof ucking dumb omg || HOW ARE YOU GONNA CONCLUDE THAT WHEN OUR WAY OF LIFE AND GOALS ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WHAT A STUPID BEING ||

[ruby loom]

sorry, but you should have maybe prefaced that. >!I assumed you finished the MSQ entirely.!<

[limber apex]

sure i shouldve prefaced but my context was pretty clear of where i was damn. all good not too ig a deal. kinda figured that would happen anyways

[ruby loom]

that's the point. ||Hermes told her he didn't teach her how to walk, only to fly. Teaching her to walk would mean learning about life itself (outside of Elpis), which for all intents and purposes is just a big laboratory. The Meteions that left the star never really knew anything other than perceived emotions from others. The Meteions got burned by meeting the ruined worlds and the hivemind then influenced each other completely overloaded themselves||

[hardy wind]

Escort quests are the worst part of the expansion

[limber apex]

|| so what about the other parts? hermes said something like im going to make this fair by making us all fforget so that if man deserves to live he will or something. huh? where is our chance in staying alive? ||

|| also what was this "trick" he did that allowed us to escape with our memories or someting ||

[woeful dagger]

||Venat, Hyth, and Emet broke us out so that we might save the future we came from||

[ruby loom]

||we simply left the zone Kairos erased the memories of people in before it could finish it, which is why only emet, hythlodaeus and hermes lost their memories||

[rose arch]

does anyone know how to get the relic gear? Is it lvl 90?

[limber apex]

|| yues but he somehow tricked hermes and i didnt quite understand how "when i saw those two chase after nothing i knew we were already safe or something?" ||

[static niche]

wow that's sad. ||she still dies in the end||

[ruby loom]

lvl 89 before you get to the final zone

[rose arch]

Oh sweet, do you get it via msq?

I'm all caught up on roll quests besides the lvl 90 one

[ruby loom]

yes. 560 ilvl

[woeful dagger]

||All Ancients can detect Aether, he knew that us and Hyth were going after nothing and not the Confluence so when Hermes attacked us that gave him an opening to break open the Confluence so Venat could get us out||

[rare sinew]

89 trial ||i legit cant read the mechanics||

[rare sinew]

Trust emet to be giga brain

[woeful dagger]

||Red = In. Green = Out. Blue = Cardinal Directions (You should be NW/NE/SW/SE). ||

[zealous sentinel]

||is Alphinaud the first time our ally is shown to have actually acquired a soul crystal?||

[limber apex]

hehehe okay ty also whats a confluence

[rare sinew]

Thanks bud. ||good thing they had autores x3||

[limber apex]

LAST QUESTION LOL || how was this keiros memory lapse thing to make things fair? ||

[marsh osprey]

WAIT trials with trusts??? WHAT

[frosty jolt]

theres a post on the forum about people wanting a story skip for endwalker

[ruby loom]

||since they all knew about the future (thanks to wol) hermes wanted to erase it instead of taking advantage of the knowledge||

[zealous sentinel]

EXCUSE ME WHAT?

[woeful dagger]

||Hermes wanted Meteion to be unabated in her quest, that Mankind should be tested freely to see if it worth saving from Meteion without the knowledge she exists. Essentially he is saying we need to find a reason to exist for Meteion to not kill us, and we "failed" that test.||

[steep pulsar]

||so that they could not make preparations in advance||

[marsh osprey]

NO JOKE

[hollow ice]

I forsee many people getting buyers remorse from the skips

[compact wedge]

there's lots of people with terrible opinions on the forum

[limber apex]

|| but then theyre just gonna die anyways cause of met. like where comes our chance to prove were worth keeping ? ||

[steep pulsar]

yeah but i suggest not doing the trails with trust. there was literally nothing to do in the 2nd trial when i used trust so nvr agn

[late aurora]

You can’t do trials with trusts

[marsh osprey]

im getting no queue on trial so i will do trusts for the lore

[humble heron]

welllllll

[steep pulsar]

2nd trial onwards you can

[late aurora]

Wacky

[marsh osprey]

yes you can

[zealous sentinel]

I only did first dungeon do far

[humble heron]

iirc you cant use trusts for the 3rd trial

[woeful dagger]

89 Trial spoiler ||What the hell is a Lithomancer that Urianger becomes for just that Trial lmao||

[marsh osprey]

2nd is lore trial so thats why

[late aurora]

||For obvious reasons||

[ruby loom]

||malefic spam bot I reckon||

[fierce wing]

||So basically a snakeoil salesman||

[zealous sentinel]

I need to do trust because I want NPC lore dialogue

[woeful dagger]

||He can also tank as it||

[steep pulsar]

||if im not wrong it was meant for met to "test" their will to live on, which was why hermes also stayed behind to fight instead of going with met||

[ruby loom]

wait what

[woeful dagger]

||I meant what abilities does it even use? Is his tank form Titan-Egi?||

[rare sinew]

DONT FOLLOW URIANGER. FUCKER DOESNT DO MECHS

[humble heron]

he's blazing his own path

[woeful dagger]

||Yes he's an All-Arounder meaning he can do all 3||

[late aurora]

So one could say he’s lying

[hollow ice]

Urainger: "Thou dost needs adjust to mine artistry or perish within the inferno of malcontent."

[rare sinew]

I got baited so many times by trusts

[humble heron]

also can i just say that dungeon 4 has great ||trusts||

[zealous sentinel]

Weird that Y'shtola can't switch between white and black mage

[rare sinew]

Motherfuckers running from my stack up

[limber apex]

to those who have finished || is the ;last area you finish off it in labyrinthos? ||

[frosty jolt]

final quest spoilers||argos is a mount you can get||

[fierce wing]

||the answer is no||

[steep pulsar]

||nope it is not||

[limber apex]

tyvm

i mean the second time around ofc, not first btw

[humble heron]

yes and even then its not the last area

[late aurora]

Still no?

[limber apex]

tyvm

[rose arch]

||being warned that the aetherial sea will have us seeing memories of the departed, time to cry||

[late aurora]

You’ll know when you’re in the final zone

[humble heron]

a guy comes out with a big sign that says "welcome to the final zone"
note: this is a joke

[limber apex]

are you sure about that?

[late aurora]

“Hey I’ve gotten all the Aether currents but then why is there a 6th box?” (Shit happens) “yeah that’s more like it”

[limber apex]

note: this too was a joke

[humble heron]

spoiler for areas 5 and 6: || this really tests the limits of what the fuck aetherytes can do, huh. ||

[marsh osprey]

fucking alisae had a stackmarker and then jumped off the platform

[gaunt star]

yknow considering how strong

[rare sinew]

THATS CALLED ROLEPLAYING THE RDM

[gaunt star]

elephants are irl i bet the elephant people are really good with labour intensive jobs

[rare sinew]

Lvl 85 zone ||i'm surprised they dont acknowledge you as Azem's soul after the reveal||

[marsh osprey]

some programmer had a chuckle when making that interaction

[gaunt star]

so far thats all ive been thinking about but also its 3 am so maybe i shouldnt be considering the irl work force enhancemeent with elephants

also no i dont remember the name of the race because its like 9 letters long i just read Ark and stopped reading

[rare sinew]

Also, no slight reveal of ||Azem||

[marsh osprey]

||Hydaelyn do be kinda hot tbh||

[gaunt star]

i just want to do the first dungeon so i can go to SLEEP

[compact wedge]

||i think emet does right at the end, when you and venat escape||

[rare sinew]

I was too busy clappin at gigabrain chad then
Must have missed it

[frosty jolt]

stop

[gaunt star]

i hate going through an area and seeing somewhere cool
cause theres always that small part of my brain
(theres an aether current there)
and then theres not

[humble heron]

I mean its true and you cant deny it @frosty jolt

[hazy moon]

does the sharlayan city theme remind anyone else of soulcalibur?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIvyEZ5oWTY especially halfway into this, during the vocal phase

[rare sinew]

Question on Fandanhiel ||So Amon never really rejoins with Hermes, yes? So he never really remembers how he fucied up majorly||

[marsh osprey]

labyrinthos theme in some parts reminds me of a certain steins gate theme

[humble heron]

||amon does indeed recieve the memories of hermes||

[rare sinew]

Im at 89. So maybe not yet? ||he seems to remember parts of it at the dungeon, but then im not sure. Also, fuck Asahi||

[humble heron]

||i suspect being sundered and also being in the spirit realm could tend to mess with ones memories so he probably never had the full picture to begin with. And yes fuck that motherfucker||

[glad maple]

|| omg we finally meet hydaelyn!!😱 she’s pretty ||

[hollow ice]

bruh ||she showed up at the end of shb XD||

[rare sinew]

89 trial ||i kept calling her Venat.||

[glad maple]

|| gurl she did not show her face at the end of sb, this the first time I ever seen her face ||

[hollow ice]

||shb not sb and yes she did like near the very very end||

cant remember if it was the post credit scene or not

[rare sinew]

Died because i gap closed as SMN. Is this how melee feel?

[glad maple]

I don’t know why I don’t remember this

[hollow ice]

it was very brief admittedly

[vital brook]

Damn... this guy really chose ||death||

[glad maple]

Girl you scaring me now, I’m a mage healer main that’s gonna try melee main this expansion lol

[hollow ice]

this implies that you can now gap close into death as healer as well cuz sage

[humble heron]

Well healers have heals so they can unfuck themselves

[hollow ice]

soon all classes will have the mobility to smack themselves into fire

[glad maple]

|| she got the mask taht the ancient had || nice touch

Imma let one of you decide, monk, black mage or ninja to play threw this expansion since I can’t pick

[hollow ice]

reaper/monk

[glad maple]

Reaper shares gear with monk?

[hollow ice]

no

[glad maple]

Oh:/

[hollow ice]

reaper shares gear with dragoon

[glad maple]

I don’t like dragon to many buffs

Monk does kinda have a lot of buffs too

[hollow ice]

they have like 1 buff
maybe 2 if your feeling spicy

[unreal delta]

why do I HAVE to ride the hamsa..ffs

[humble heron]

Youll enjoy your cinematic dodo experience like it or not @unreal delta

[glad maple]

Maybe I should play as black mage, I just have to worry about myself lol

[unreal delta]

ITS NOT EVEN CINEMATIC. I CONTROL IT NOW SO ITS NOT CINEMATIC

[hollow ice]

not with that attitude

[humble heron]

Not riding it would be rude

[mortal barn]

does I need spoiler tag for random NPC dialogue?

[static niche]

ah that explains the role quests for ew now

[hollow ice]

ifi t sounds important enough

[mortal barn]

https://i.imgur.com/9YX1mbu.png server is not the only thing that get congestion :3

[humble heron]

The queue is spreading

[rare sinew]

89 dungeon ||surprised we didnt see Emet and co in the aetherial sea||

[static niche]

called it

[rare sinew]

When i ride it with my miqo skirt, the whole world knows im wearing white

[humble heron]

||hes far too tsundere to show up||

[mortal barn]

wow people play fast.

[rare sinew]

Considerin he prob used to listen to emo music.. i bet

||the brooding really made DRK the best choice||

[humble heron]

||he probably invented emo music||

Also the story is great and all but who cares about that when you can be listening to the absolute banger of a soundtrack

[woeful dagger]

90 MSQ spoiler: ||ngl, SE got unlucky calling an entire race of beings Omicron||

[rare sinew]

Imagine, if ||Venat was as nuts as she is, as her successor, we were bonkers. Also, isn't it already implied that Azem looks like us? Wished they showed us a brief glimpse of part of Azem's face||

Like, hair, or smile or smthng

[humble heron]

||i could have sworn they did, actually, but it might have just been hythlodaeus, in the cutscene where danny phantom does the thing and becomes zoddy arch||

[rare sinew]

Thats in ShB. As a shadow

I want, like ||current ancient's face, but a miqo face on it||

Imagine if fucking ||hothgar|| what do they say instead?

[humble heron]

Oh actually uh

[rare sinew]

Oh ||Azem, u a furry now?||

[humble heron]

Hmmm

[indigo shale]

||nah if azem looked like us emet and hythlo would have recognised us straight away, which they didnt||

[rare sinew]

||they said we look like them but have animal features|| as miqo

[woeful dagger]

||There's more than 1 Azem||

[rare sinew]

We are the current Azem

[indigo shale]

||i know, but current azem when we go to elpis the one in question, the one that we are alluded to sharing a soul||

[woeful dagger]

||The Azem we are is the one that got Sundered. The one that stepped down from the Convocation and refused both in assisting summoning Zodiark and assisting summoning Hydaelyn. The one in Elpis is Venat.||

[indigo shale]

||venat being azem previously has no effect on it||

[humble heron]

Post-credits cutscene spoiler for endwalker: ||we might actually see what azem looks like||

[rare sinew]

||Do they ever explain why we never helped either side?||

Just a yes or no pls

[woeful dagger]

||They explain it by inference.||

[indigo shale]

||they are 2 different azems, we do not have venats soul, we have the soul of azem at the time we go to elpis, whoever that may be||

[compact wedge]

||i dunno about azem, but we'll definitely see eli and laha||

[humble heron]

||i suspect the guy talking about pandemonium is azem only because of the same outfit as venat, but i could be wrong||

[indigo shale]

||its elidibus||

[compact wedge]

||he sounds like elidibus, and in the CT elidibus vaguely remembers meeting you in elpis which we haven't so far||

[rare sinew]

Only those 2 are allowed that color

[humble heron]

||ah ok thanks the clothing being different threw me off||

[indigo shale]

||only other white robed ancient, plus that unmistakeable voice||

[woeful dagger]

||It's because Elidibus is Zodiark who is intrinsically linked to all the Ancients and so regained Emet's and Hyth's memories in that moment.||

[indigo shale]

||or, more likely, we travel back to elpis to deal with panda||

[frosty jolt]

where is the lvl 88 caster quest, i cant find it anywhere

[split forum]

87 || can venat please chill tf out ||

[glad maple]

Why do I not see a lot of bunny boys? I thought eveyone was gonna be oneXD

[compact wedge]

they got dc'ed after fantasiaing

[split forum]

Nah, I’m here, but on a different DC

[humble heron]

Zone 5 spoiler ||i cannot believe venat just called us the fuck out and just took the fact that we fucking time traveled in stride||

[split forum]

Bunboi’d up

[glad maple]

Took me a day to Fantasia I could not edit my character had to wait until 3 am for server to calm down

[split forum]

lol, refer to my spoiler comment above for when you have to || spar with her ||

[marsh osprey]

i kinda like how easy it is to get job gear, no stupid questing

[humble heron]

Also the ilvl 545 gear at least for healers slaps

[split forum]

Except for all the MSQ up to it

[marsh osprey]

it does?

[marsh osprey]

they make up for the questing with feature lenght cutscenes twice per msq quest

[humble heron]

Yeah its very slim and form fitting with a sick cape in the back. I could do without the hat, though

[split forum]

I swear to god || if I can’t get Argos as a mount, I’m setting servers on fire ||

[marsh osprey]

i like this healer top from some ew dungeon

[humble heron]

||if you like i can answer that question one way or the other||

[gaunt star]

take bets
reaper and sage

[indigo shale]

i hope they continue the style of questing presented in EW, with the rp instances and such, makes it feel like its the first time we are actually doing anything outside of dungeons/trials

[split forum]

|| it’s a raid drop isn’t it? ||

[humble heron]

||you get it via story so no bamboozle||

[marsh osprey]

the amount of cutscenes can be annoying though, i felt like i was watching a movie

[humble heron]

I mean you are watching a movie

[indigo shale]

and its the best god damn movie to ever exist at that

[strange beacon]

the whole ||hermes amon thing|| was confusing

[marsh osprey]

more like im watching the entire netflix catalogue

[vital brook]

car

[marsh osprey]

cant finish msq today

[scarlet egret]

For people who finished the story,

[humble heron]

||amon is a fragment of hermes in the same way we are a fragment of azem||

[scarlet egret]

ah shit too long ._.

[compact wedge]

i loved the way they executed ||the zenos fight, it's as climactic as it should be but he doesn't take the spotlight of the final trial which many people were fearing||

[indigo shale]

||people were still complaining abou the trial because zenos was still their in a form though||

[rare sinew]

Do I need to do role quests for gear or anything? Or just flavour? Does it affect MSQ

[strange beacon]

OH I SEE ||so that's why he's the sundered fandaniel. hermes was never fandaniel but amon was smth like that?||

[marsh osprey]

nothing, you you reach a certain 89 quest and then you can buy all job gear for free

[compact wedge]

that's just dumb tbh

[rare sinew]

Nice. Thanks

[split forum]

|| Hermes is def gonna cause the apocalypse, ugh. Poor birb girl || 88

[indigo shale]

||also personally id say the zenos section was better than the final trial|| 90 spoilers btw dont click

[scarlet egret]

for people who finished the story

[compact wedge]

||hermes took the seat of fandaniel and got sundered by venat, one of those shards was amon||

[humble heron]

||hermes was fandaniel, fandaniel is a title more than it is a name. Hermes had the title of Fandaniel at the point the world was sundered||

[strange beacon]

i was under the impression that ||hermes wasn't fandaniel due to him really not wanting to take up the seat originally but i guess in the end he did||

[humble heron]

How could you not be convinced when ||the smooth, sultry emet selch wants you to do it||

[compact wedge]

it's like how|| ___ took the seat of azem and got sundered, with two of their shards being (your name) and ardbert||

[indigo shale]

||probably wouldnt have taken the seat, but due to the memory wiping he had no memory of us interferering, so all went as it did originally as though we never showed up||

[marsh osprey]

this channel looks like military papers about forbidden experiments

[scarlet egret]

For people who finished the story, ||Do you think Midgardsommer knew about Meteion?He probably did flee from the Omicrons, but failing to find another star, he ran into Meteion's clone all around those stars and the only place left is Etheryis since it had Zodiark to stall the Final Days. Which is why he said, "it was the last bastion of hope". He also made a pact with Veant, since she is the only person who knew about Meteion to keep quiet about Meteion and allow him to stay, so it doesn't interfere with any chances of the WoL going back to the past. Just a thought.eft is Etheryis since it had Zodiark to stall the Final Days. ||

[strange beacon]

i would imagine so

[humble heron]

Thats a good question

[scarlet egret]

@_@ me trying to find a way mark spoiler on discord, so bit messsy lol

[indigo shale]

also i wonder what the trial series will be, we still have yet to find out

[past hornet]

i remember during one of the fan fest, Joshi said the story will concludes with 6.0, is that still the case? we don't have to wait for later patches?

[compact wedge]

pretty much

[humble heron]

There will be more things in 6.1 onwards but itll be an entirely new arc

[indigo shale]

yeah endwalker ends at 6.0, doesnt mean more isnt to come, but all main story stuff pertaining to the end days is wrapped up

[compact wedge]

i don't recall any unfinished plot hooks atm