#retired-patch-6-3-discussion

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rare sinew
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If they ||touched a hair on the scions, legit would have stopped||

steep kiln
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and accidentally messed up recovery when i hit enter

grave raft
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wooooooh ||I could attune to the radz-at-han aetheryte now||

rare sinew
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Dat fucking smirk tho

simple plover
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I kept opening the menu with one of my shortcuts

steep kiln
simple plover
stable island
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I keep getting confused on a certain mechanic in the L83 trial with the stars, i simply don't understand how to interpet it.

rare sinew
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Fuck em. ||smug pricks, look who's dead||

steep kiln
coarse holly
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I meant more as in I often see people talk about the prime time to sell stuff is when a new patch comes out and I was wondering in terms of how fast does stuff drop off before it the market stabilizes and you can no longer make insane amounts selling the new gear/materials.

steep kiln
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legit the only reason my wol is helping out now is bc of alphi and alisaie

rare sinew
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Also, for a brief second, ||Zenos was a pink hair catgirl in a miniskirt||

steep kiln
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thats rhe part im on lol

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im just too. mad after the 1st shitshow to try that instance again

teal robin
steep kiln
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so im gonna sleep bc ive been up almost a full day

rare sinew
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The moment ||the commander wanted to hold them hostage, i was like, awww shit. I'm not being nice anymore. Murder time||

steep kiln
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SO SORRY MAXIMA BUT SOME HEADASS COMMANDER ||THOUGHT TO USE MY KIDS AS LEVERAGE!!!!!||

grave raft
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oh so role quests start ||at 85||

rare sinew
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||FANNY BOY DIDNT DO IT WELL. I'M HERE TO FINISH THE JOB||

steep kiln
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||quintus killed himself im here to have him resurrected so i can KILL HIM MYSELF||

rare sinew
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Fucking smug ass bitches. Trying to call me ||savage. Gonna beat their dumb ass. I like how still in deep shit, they still think they can orser/be smug with us||

simple plover
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if you talk to one of the guys at the garlemald station after you enter - he was at the praetorium. Talks about you just mowing down dozens of people with ease like they were nothing to you. I was like... "Goddamn right. ilvl sync is a bitch, huh? Wanna see me do it again?"

rare sinew
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||Hurrrr Garlean rule is perfect||

digital fractal
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Do Trust use aoe spells yet?

viscid umbra
steep kiln
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also quite frankly ||having every pureblood garlean you encounter there be an UTTER piece of shit will not build sympathy lmfao. coerthas had haurchefant and francel garlemald has uhhhh aether current npcs||

grave raft
simple plover
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"You claim to like peace, yet you refuse to allow us to subjugate you and have a peaceful empire with us ruling over you. Curious" - Turning Point, Garlemald

rare sinew
indigo shale
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you people would make awful warriors of light

steep kiln
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im sorry i dont empathy for people who consistently insult me and ||hold my kids hostage and refuse my help anyways||

rare sinew
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Ok, lads, 84 trial, who ||was the white hair guy? I thought it was Emet initially but im bad with recognising the voice||

simple plover
rare sinew
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In the trial, i liked hpw ||we were like, awww shit, lemme get my pocket party out||

steep kiln
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coerthas started off irritating bc all the shitty elves, but we also have francel and haurch to humanize ishgard

grave raft
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||traveling back to the first? pog||

steep kiln
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garlemald is just “but theyve suffered!” while they continue to not do anything ti aid their suffering and then ||hold my kids hostage||

rare sinew
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I hate that we still have ||emememmemelin|| but I must say, 80-ing everything before this expac was worth for the story

viscid umbra
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man, doesn't matter how many times i hear Answers, it brings me close to tears every time

rare sinew
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It was like ||Awwww shit look what the cat dragged in||

simple plover
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problem is we already have the nice garleans on the team - Lucia, Gaius, Maximus. All that's left are the shitty ones with an ego

steep kiln
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yes i can see them suffering. i am trying to help. they are rejecting it. they are attempting to kill my friends

indigo shale
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did you just call gaius nice

steep kiln
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hes better than quintus

indigo shale
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well not really

simple plover
rare sinew
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Gaius is best garlean dad. Which isn't saying much tbh

steep kiln
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it says a lot that the only genuinely nice pb garlics ive seen are like. aether current npcs

simple plover
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oh and Cid/Nero are garleans too

steep kiln
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i know and cid would be sad if i burnt his country to the ground

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nero would probably laugh tho

rare sinew
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||not seen cid and nero around till 84... they honeymooning or smthn?||

simple plover
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he'll show up on an airship in the nick of time again probably

rare sinew
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Also, moon ||doesnt have moon gravity|| 0/10. Ruined

simple plover
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he's just hiding out of sight, waiting for a dramatic moment

steep kiln
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ok so when can i go the fuckin moon anyways. im so tired of garlemald all the people here suck

rare sinew
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So yeah, ||who is the white hair guy in the 84 trial||?

ruby loom
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okay that freaking level 83 trial reveal just blew my mind ngl. I have no idea where this story is going and I love it

simple plover
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@steep kiln it all happens pretty quickly and out of nowhere

rare sinew
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At 84, but it legit feels like I've done an expac's worth already

steep kiln
ruby loom
simple plover
rare sinew
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Yea. It's kinda nuts.

ruby loom
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I'm elated as fuck

simple plover
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incidentally, the guy who decided that NPC followers should run "slightly" slower than mount speed needs to be thrown in prison

steep kiln
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i just dont try with mounts

simple plover
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especially with how fast they stop following after 3 metres

rare sinew
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The inconsistent walk speed annoys me and that using the local aetheryte network breaks following

indigo shale
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either way, its the expected result of people ruled under a shitty reigime for many centuries, and then recently 2 emperors dying within a year of each other, civil wars, conquered nations being liberated, multiple ascians doing shit, still better than the first though

steep kiln
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why are there so many of those goddamn quests anyways

ruby loom
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NIN problems who are always faster than the NPC's regular walk speed

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new tech = new toy that needs to be played with probably

rare sinew
steep kiln
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bro ive had like 6 and im 83

ruby loom
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yeah especially when you get to talk with the NPCs about optional stuff it's really nice

rare sinew
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It's fun. Walking around with the nerds

steep kiln
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theres just so many…

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i liked estiniens but also, its estinien

teal robin
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I like having the cat boy follow me KEKW

rare sinew
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The jazzy music is so good

steep kiln
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i love that hes bad with money. thats adorable. i wanna kiss him.

simple plover
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krile is a literal pikachu cosplayer and I just feel like im playing pokemon

ruby loom
rare sinew
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Both scared of tataru

steep kiln
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like no WONDER they get along

rare sinew
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Also. ||immediately glammed the coat she gave||

simple plover
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oh hey, emergency maintenance on firmanent/doman enclave

ruby loom
simple plover
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what do they even have in common?

steep kiln
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“you ever pay full price for an ancient inherited jatana” “no but i did once pay 200$ for a hairtie”

rare sinew
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Tbh, Tataru is final boss

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Also, ||Zenos is fuck boi|| gonna kick his ass

steep kiln
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same

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once i get…to play again. for now i sleep.

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thx for lettinf me rant about how much garlemald blows

rare sinew
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Good thing i took weekend and two more days off

simple plover
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48 minutes waiting for the first trial

rare sinew
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Really? Did ya try PF?

simple plover
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duty finder

rare sinew
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I've seen some PFs of it

steep kiln
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nah i gotta do some errands today. and i DO need money, so. only reserved today/friday for expac drop

simple plover
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I can see a PF with no healers thats been open for 40 minutes

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dead game Sadge - back to WoW i guess

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wait nvm queue popped - alive game

rare sinew
north silo
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Endwalker should just be called Zenos has a piss fit

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Cause that is essentially what it boils down to

gaunt star
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Does anyone know the mounts we get from extremes?

ruby loom
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okay, it's funny how (post first trial) ||basically everything that happened was emet-selch's fault because he laid the foundations for the allagan empire and thus xande and amon||

slender siren
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We’re riding home still

real badger
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It's not moving

compact wedge
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||he's kinda the game's overarching antagonist in a way, since garlemald and thus 1.0, ARR and SB, allag and hence CT, all of shadowbringers and endwalker are his fault||

north silo
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I feel like they could’ve done something to all the zones to give it that end of the world feeling

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Going from thanalan which looks normal into Thavnir is like wat

ruby loom
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thavnair looks so good

indigo shale
north silo
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Ikr but I feel like they could’ve added some ruins in all the zones…. Have the sky on fire, SOMETHING so that the end of the world vibe is consistent

ruby loom
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god the amaurot theme and its variations are so freaking beautiful

brisk sapphire
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jfc thsi expansion is brutal

midnight nymph
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arr relic paladin in ew hits different

brisk sapphire
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||Grab mother by the head break her neck and throw her in a lake with her still clutching her infant babe||

blazing edge
compact wedge
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best boi

hazy apex
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||Alisae has a unique line LB2 in trusts||

gaunt star
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Tonberry Refugee Camp

hollow wraith
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it snows in sharlayan

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!!!!!

shell merlin
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wowerz

simple plover
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moon|| lalafell bunnies ||kill me

plain plover
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am i completely unable to use fantasia with this up?

stark vine
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After 2 hours of waiting and finally reaching single digit queue this comes up...

desert basin
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Does Dancer got animation update?

iron rune
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anybody get stuck on "Helping Hands"? i really dont know what to do i need help :(

simple plover
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is that the one with the cave?

iron rune
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i think so

simple plover
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pretty sure the cave was right by the npc - north side of the quest marker

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where that fate is

willow zodiac
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Is there a new tank job that I'm not aware?

iron rune
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idk how to get there though, im stuck on this side of the map.. it says to speak to argos but i cant him him anywhere

simple plover
dense flower
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ah yes

willow zodiac
compact wedge
north silo
simple plover
iron rune
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@simple ploveryoure a legend

north silo
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Are we all enjoying queuewalker

simple plover
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whats a queue? is that what people do when they dont login at midnight because of night shift?

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(actually, the first trial had a 50 minute queue - but the login queue was basically 0 at least)

mental tangle
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0 queue today nice

surreal scroll
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Weird because all of my dailies queue took less than a sec as a tank

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and 30 mins as a healer

mental tangle
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Queue is kimda fast here and im on blm

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The sage souns like ur playin starfox on n64

brisk sapphire
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That first trial is a good mechanics check

north silo
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||how do you work out how far zodiark is gonna rotate the slab during astral flow||

steep pulsar
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||it rotates by 90 degrees so the closer you stand to the mid, the less you move. you can try to imagine splitting the slab into 4 quadrants and imagine your quadrant moving back by 1 ||

tardy moon
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anyone knows how to get AF gears? i completed msq but i didnt receive

blazing edge
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she likes her glam like the rest of us

sour merlin
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When you realise all the cinematics are in 1080p 😂

slender siren
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The tower of zot armor looks like Cecil

north silo
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Now…. why is ||zodiark|| so sexy

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he’s definitely giving zaddy top vibes

plain plover
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do i just need to keep logging out and back in until it works?

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eyy it worked now

neon wing
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come one everyone, do your MSQ

simple tapir
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2004 queve sry

sour merlin
silver smelt
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Is there an endwalker quest list anywhere

obsidian osprey
neon wing
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is it big or not moving?
or both, perhaps

steep pulsar
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might wanna spoiler the image as well

versed hill
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its spoilered

steep pulsar
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oh wtf it unspoiled itsefl for me nvm then

bitter drift
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what queue time on phoenix atm?

versed hill
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nvm i picked the third since its vague

gusty quiver
versed hill
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nvm it doesnt even matter in the end lol choices in this game

versed hill
north silo
lone pendant
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has anyone else had to grind exp? i just hit the level 85 quests but im only level 84, i havent switched off my main job

hardy wind
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Ok, so sage is amazing. I'm 100% maining sage now. Friendship with WHM over, Sage is new bestie

north silo
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Sage will never bore you like spamming glare did

hardy wind
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Everything is instant cast, and you have a gap closer. It's so damn mobile.

tardy moon
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anyone knows where to get artifact gear lvl 90?

gaunt star
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what about SCH? haha

hearty ravine
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||i have to say EW story isnt that good so far especially compared to shb but holy shit the dungeon is far better than shb||

north silo
lyric rivet
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46 people in queue and an almost immediate login. What a strange feeling.

hardy wind
iron birch
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Out of curiosity, which point did people reach in msq (just say the lvl to avoid spoilers)?

hardy wind
indigo shale
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||idk how far you are in but fandaniel is a million times more interesting than emet ever was||

gaunt star
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okay, one thing I dont understand about the story ||is how come now, the main alliance suddenly wants to save the Empire||

Am I missing something?

compact wedge
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endwalker gets a lot better after the first trial in my experience

gaunt star
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you know what else is better in EW?

if you gift me Endwalker uwu

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I already knew it wasnt going to be as good as Shb. That was being too hopeful. But its fine enough so far..well, honestly kind of dont make sense one part.

indigo shale
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hmm, from my impressions so far ShB isnt even a 1/10th as good as EW

gaunt star
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really? hmm, I am not really going to judge it now. But I am enjoying it.

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||but why we do care about buddying up with the empire after we killed a bunch of their soldiers? I get they are in a very bad condition, but its kind of weird.|| story spoiler.

subtle pasture
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Some of the arcs are very drawn out but in turn they give amazing exp,

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but story really picks up around the 2nd dungeon

dire flume
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Hello, because of a hardware issue yesterday I got yeetted out of ||radz-at-han||during the quest ||where you have to talk around the city with Estinien (The Jewels of Thavnair)||. Any idea how can I get there again since I don´t have the aetherithe unlocked?

hardy wind
gaunt star
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I am going to be honest about shadow bringers. I didnt care too much for
its story until around the end when it started focusing on Emet (and I think its kind of the same for a lot of people.) Dont get me wrong, the story in shadow bringer before was really interesting, but at the end...

subtle pasture
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||The Empire's more than its military and there's civilians who are the victims of the Telophoroi, if all else, the fact they're now Tempered||

gaunt star
indigo shale
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speaking of ||fandaniel being amon dispels the emet being amon theory aswell||

compact wedge
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||i like what they did with fandaniel, him being amon and merging with zodiark to effectively suicide him||

hearty ravine
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As long as it is better than stormblood it is enough for me honestly. I dont expect EW to be as good as shb either

indigo shale
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well atm unless anyone has completed EW (without skipping it all) its hard to compare it to ShB completely anyway

compact wedge
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^

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i'm interested in seeing people's thoughts on EW once a week or so has passed

gaunt star
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people really disliked stromblood, I see.

indigo shale
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i like stormblood

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but a lot of people didnt like the characters in it or the pacing

compact wedge
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stormblood had high highs and low lows

hardy wind
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IF someone who has finished EW just answer me one question. Do we finish the story arc from 2.0 in 6.0 or are we waiting for patches? Does the new story line start at the end of 6.0?

compact wedge
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looks finished besides pandaemonium kinda

hearty ravine
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It isnt bad but it is just unfortunate to be in the middle of 2 all time great expansions so thats why the opinion of it is hardly positive by comparison

indigo shale
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actually the way people speak about stormblood makes me think not many people actually played it and just go off what other people say

next quarry
compact wedge
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there's a bit of setup for the future near the end

gaunt star
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I really enjoy stormblood. But I cant judge t he story as much like in shadowbringers.

next quarry
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im at the second dungeon, i like it a bit more than ShB

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but 5.3 made shb for me, so idk if it will hold up that long lol

hearty ravine
indigo shale
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oh yeah 5.3 id say is what made ShB, 5.0 was eh but the post patches were what sold it

gaunt star
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I remember at the end of shadowbringers, I was about to be disappointed with the story until I realize there was one more region to explore. lol

tall tulip
next quarry
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yeah!

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really nice

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i saw my drg twirl her lance a bit before taking it out fully

rare sinew
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I was using relic, so it just looked like i opened a disco

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A DISCO BOOK OF WHOOPASS

gaunt star
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the worst part of FFXIV will always be ARR. 😛

compact wedge
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yea pretty much

indigo shale
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arr is great

hardy wind
gaunt star
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oh, no I didnt play 1.0. I wasnt aroundn for that

next quarry
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ARR isnt the best but its good worldbuilding

compact wedge
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ARR is pretty fucking terrible

indigo shale
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nah, if arr was so bad we wouldnt have endwalker

gaunt star
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1.0 was so bad, you cant even play it anymore.

compact wedge
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but it's better than 1.0 lol

shrewd bobcat
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stats squish are a bit strange

compact wedge
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you get used to it quickly

gaunt star
rare sinew
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I'm not shit at my job. It's just stat squish uwucarby

shrewd bobcat
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get killed by level 60 SMH mob quest

hardy wind
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Potency squish was a bit weird. Sad going from 1500 potency to 1080

indigo shale
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still, considering people say arr is bad (eventhough its not), its still better than anyother rpg released the past decade

rare sinew
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I've not seen anyone post a queue screenshot at 69 or 420

gaunt star
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Any way to fix error code 2002

strange wing
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Epic Echo is pretty wild

hardy wind
rare sinew
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Pray to the server gods

gaunt star
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thinking about it, I really like all expansions. My least favorite would probably be Heavensward and it not that far compared to others. Heavensward is still pretty good. I just like stormblood better cause it was my first time catching up and seeing patches release.

strange wing
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And it stacks with regular echo. Speedrunner gonna do some weird stuff

rare sinew
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Hilariously enough, i felt SB was the weakest. Art and design were top notch. The story was lacking imo

compact wedge
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EW once it gets going is IMO the best .0 patch

leaden carbon
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I did a PF of all PLDs to clear the 1st trial

rare sinew
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Tbh, EW gets goin p fucking early on

leaden carbon
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We got tired of waiting for healers

tall tulip
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Looking at the new draw animation with different weapons, it looks like glows only show up when you transition to the original battle stances, so for MNK you do that nice set-up and then your weapons just ignite into flame. Pretty intimidating

strange wing
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Holy Sheltron is kinda OP

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We healer now. Which is good cause Sage healers are a bit of a meme

gaunt star
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I am only judging SB and HW in gameplay, cause that was before I paid much attention to the story. I started paying more attention in ShB and now EW.

gaunt star
compact wedge
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SB did have excellent gameplay

rare sinew
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SB was fun gameplay wise. Literally fell asleep during some of the ala mhigo stuff. Or yanxia stuff

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Steppe, Ruby sea, Kugane, fun

compact wedge
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i liked pretty much all of doma, ala mhigo was awful

rare sinew
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Ngl, the accents in ala mhigo were better than raz al gul land

mint notch
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Bro the level 80 quest coffer gear is better than my Exarchic setboi

rare sinew
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One thing I gotta say tho, every expac seems to involve us the char, more and more.

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Like, we're doing more than murder hobo-ing

rare sinew
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||when the moon gear is a skallic recolor|| coxWat

gaunt star
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If you not augmented you exarchic gear then oopsie cause exarchic gear can be augmented to Ilvl 520

keen holly
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I'm having an issue with texture rendering in the new patch. Like weapons and clothes (especially in cutscenes) look super low res, but all my graphics settings are at standard or high.

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Is this common or specific to my game being dumb?

gaunt star
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Someone once post a bad graphics photo of grape

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Probably rendering problem besides some weird bug ||like how graha tia fly||

lone mural
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Meh just went to Garlemald... the citizens there are worst than stormblood. Why are saving them again?

brisk sapphire
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Am I the only one that enjoys speaking what our character is saying?
"Tell us what happened?!"
||So yeah we went to the moon and met some big amarot dude and we fought Zodiark then he killed himself, sorry about that, and then we met lalafel-bunny hybrids who ended up attacking us, and honestly it was very satisfying to beat the crap outta them, and then we went back to the planet 'cause we kinda fucked shit up.||

hearty ravine
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||who the hell thinks it is a good idea that you cant teleport directly to radz at han smh||

cedar portal
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I really appreciate the changes to PLD, especially the way that Requiescat works as stacks now, and that both Holy spells (single and aoe) are only 1000mp to cast. So much easier to get 4 shots of holy * off and a confiteor while still weaving other stuff as they come up AND have MP leftover for a shot or two of Clemency when we're a bit under...

hearty ravine
brisk sapphire
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So you can do Requiescat -> Combo to goring blade -> start casting spells

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Same for royal authority now being 30 seconds, you can do other shit meanwhile

brisk sapphire
indigo shale
cedar portal
brisk sapphire
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Jsut wait until you get holy sheltron and holy spirit heals you

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You basically don't need a healer anymore for dungeons, and for trials you can go without healing for a while

fierce bough
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Hi guys does anyone know where is Artoirel? After I complete the level 86 quest "No Forgiveness, No Deliverance" (a ranged magical dps) specific quest, I cant proceed cause I cant find Artoirel for the next quest - "Only Justice, Only Vengeance"

hearty ravine
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||my god the indian accent is so thick in radz at han||

lean ore
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damn the queue for the trial is killing me

cedar portal
brisk sapphire
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If you manage to clear it with less than 2 wipes I will be impressed

lean ore
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even if theres wipes idc lmao 5 min im the only one in Q xD

cedar portal
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I'll be the first to admit as a longtime PLD main, that while this is really lovely, PLD is firghteningly overpowered now...

brisk sapphire
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I mean in stormblood we already were kinda op

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But this is just ridiculous, I heal for about 10% of my health per holy spirit, 24% of my health per holy sheltron

cedar portal
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I didn't get to enjoy that much. I hated the SB story, so quit the game for a time half way through

brisk sapphire
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On top of holy sheltron giving us 15% damage reduction on top of block

cedar portal
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Yeah. We are invincible.

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Part of me is slightly concerned though...why did Square give us all this power? It's like walking along in an FP Shooter and finding a room full of health and powerups, a save point, and hearing the music change...

brisk sapphire
vernal nacelle
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I'm finding BRD really nice now.

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I didn't even know they upgraded frontal cone AoE.

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Wow. Balmung is zero queue currently. It'll get back up again soon though I'm sure.

hardy wind
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Midgardsomir is a queue <100

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just had to relog and got right back in

cedar portal
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Faerie is <100 queue.

hardy wind
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You can just change realm from the charactern select screen to world transfer and play on a realm with no queue

vernal nacelle
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Yeah I finally used my Fantasia this morning.

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Couldn't do it yesterday because that would mean logging out, lol.

hardy wind
vernal nacelle
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@hardy wind Oh no, not that kind of Fantasia, lol. I have been bunny before, but always fembunny.

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I'm Miqo'te and changed face. I like fembun, it's just I like their yuuuuuuuuge mane hairstyles and PLD shields clip SO bad through them. Also my character's been Miqo'te since 1.0 so it feels weird when she's anything else.

gaunt star
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Does EW come with any new level 1 glams? I checked mb but didnt see anything new yet. Im at level 84 stiry quests

hardy wind
warm glen
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Hyur rule the eorzea!

vernal nacelle
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@hardy wind I just wish they hadn't stopped adding ear holes to hats for Miqo'te. Now your ears just magically disappear inside hats instead.

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Also, the use of that ||radio music in Garlemald is suuuuuper good.||

rich lark
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I like how you're acknowledged as a white mage/healer this patch... I don't think I've seen that since a brief mention in SB

bitter drift
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WHY ISNT MY QUEUE SAVING MY POSITION WHEN IT DISCONNECTS ME?!

gentle steeple
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this sucks

vernal nacelle
#

||So a radio shields from tempering as well as the talisman that we spent an entire zone and army of experts coming up with? Seems like an asspull, but okay.||

spring moon
#

anyone lv90 yet?

hardy wind
boreal palm
#

From what I’ve seen this is the longest x.0 patch besides 2.0

cedar portal
#

I'm dying over here... (This is flavor text from talking to a random NPC most won't even notice...)

#

Nothing like Square making fun of themselves.

rare sinew
#

level 84 MSQ meme

gaunt star
#

I want Krile hairstyle without the hood, Please

vivid notch
#

biggest queue I got up to now
72 people

gaunt star
#

Krile is a cutie pie and need to be protected

vernal nacelle
#

||Garlemald story is just sooooo good so far.||

cedar willow
#

ah, trial wait times, my favorite

#

at least new shelltron is actually dope

gaunt star
#

I haven't started the game yet, and I need some help with which DPS I should choose to do MSQ. Just like 5x, does SAM give the top dps?

hollow ice
twin horizon
#

what new hair work with viera?

gaunt star
#

Is SAM rotation difficult compared to 5x? If so, I might choose to level it by roulette to practice rotation and do MSQ with simple jobs like RDM

hollow ice
#

oh the lack of a period completely confused me

gaunt star
#

Sorry, I meant 5.x. I'm confident with the rotation at that time, so I'm wondering about the rotation now

#

Wait, I didn't know that the job guides are new now. Thanks!

vivid notch
#

man these garlemald quests are pissing me off

#

Endwalker might be the worst expac, tbh, and I wish I was exaggerating for comedy. It'll need to be stellar to recover from this bullshit

gaunt star
#

made it to second dungeon

short edge
gaunt star
#

I cant judge too much, but I am having a good time. I am going to guess Duck is not liking it cause of cutscenes

short edge
#

Ahh. To much or something?

gaunt star
#

Garlemald do have a lot of long cutscenes

hollow ice
#

I see this as an absolute win

vivid notch
frosty jolt
#

there is only one lalafell forum member

short edge
#

Same haha, but we all got different taste

vivid notch
#

the cutscenes are fine, the problem is the garlemald apologia

gaunt star
#

I like it but I am just starting the zone now

vivid notch
#

I'm legitimately angry with the game lmao

gaunt star
#

Why, if you angry then you dont have to play it

#

It’s a love hate relationship

gaunt star
#

Haven't reached Garlemald yet, but wasn't a massive chunk of ShB's endgame basically just Ascian apologia?

untold gale
#

even if stormblood had a lot of issues with the story in general and pacing in particular, it atleast attempted nuance when it came to the heavier topics like colonialism and imperialism (the post-msq patches aside, where it failed with that spectaculary). ive just reached garlemald so it might be a bit early to say still, but it really feels imo like Endwalker is lacking that nuance

gaunt star
#

Blizzard need to give a blank check to her for her writing stuff for them

#

glad i am not the only one that find it a bit weird

hollow ice
gaunt star
#

but besides that, I am loving it so far

gaunt star
modest citrus
#

Imo the Ascians and the Amaurotians and the Ancients are 3 very different groups of people

terse condor
#

So... What's the deal with removing HQ gathering items?

gaunt star
#

I dunno, I'm kinda tired of the whole Sympathetic Villain trope in general. It's getting really annoying that it crops up in literally everything these days.

fathom barn
#

does someone know the name of the theme for first trial?

mint sail
#

I remember poking around the orchestrion, I remember "Your Answer" being one trial's theme but I forgot the other

hollow ice
terse condor
#

make sense, thanks

inner ice
#

can the npcs that accompany you swim

hollow ice
#

59th in line for day 2

gaunt star
hollow ice
gaunt star
#

Ouch.

hollow ice
#

#1 in que!

warm glen
#

since hours i only have sages in my party =)) how sick

gaunt star
#

Sorry for the noob question but if I don’t have the ex pack will the changes of jobs still be in effect?

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So even if I don’t have endwalker will the abilities still adjust.

winter hamlet
#

Wait is fandaniel amon?

gaunt star
#

Ty.

gaunt star
winter hamlet
#

Hahahha

gaunt star
#

I really thought ||Anima was going to be a trial||

#

I love all of the music on 6.0, Soken is a genius

#

I am guessing the trails are at the end or maybe only 1.

cinder spindle
gaunt star
#

I am ||on the moon ||

#

I was epxecting to go there a lot later.

#

hoping I am close to a trial

rare sinew
#

Eh hem

#

84 spoilers ||Puddingway|| actually lolled

stiff pond
#

Where do y get reap from?

next quarry
#

uldah

#

steps of nald, near the entrance to the avenue exchange

coarse holly
#

Just realized GC's now sell crates of a random HW or SB minion/mount for 20k seals hmm

split forum
#

Lyse and her contingent of menacing lalas

silver vector
#

when do I get my cool pre-order mount

split forum
#

At proper launch, I believe?

silver vector
#

wow I cant flex on none early access people? Sadge

hollow ice
#

yeah mount is collectors edition not preorder so it comes on proper release

silver vector
#

damn

vernal nacelle
#

@vivid notch What? Garlemald is the best zone so far for me. I'm in it now. Nearing the end I think.

split forum
#

Is ruhn e senna’s haircut a custom one or something?

torn fiber
#

anyone know how to get the tiny troll minion?

warm glen
#

thats weird. it was in ShB aoe tb, now normal tb. and im always running outta my party=))

split forum
#

Tataru made us a coat yaycarby

regal lantern
#

Anyone finished the game or close to it yet? I can’t log in so I’d ask, any major NPC death yet? Is Zenos still doing what he usually does?

rose arch
split forum
#

Somebody was to the 89 quest already last night

warm glen
#

no clue i couldnt play yesterday, so i woke up at 6am and started to play... till now...

shrewd crystal
#

What would you define as major

split forum
regal lantern
boreal palm
#

Even in here I would spoiler mark major spoilers

autumn zinc
#

anyone knows where to get your new AF gear?

shrewd crystal
#

||As of msq lvl 89, one that I can recall but it's a char that you expect to be killed sooner or later.. || MSQ spoilers

autumn zinc
#

ah okay
thanks fam

shrewd crystal
#

@regal lantern

cedar spire
#

does anyone know if we're getting new DoL/DoH manuals for extra xp?

split forum
#

Thancred’s ilsabard outfit looks like Skyrim armor

mint sail
#

It's a Bozja set, isn't it

golden bridge
#

4dd's 2 heals 1 tank available to do last MSQ Trial "The Final Day"?

#

Been W8ing 40 min 😢

hollow ice
#

yer not gonna fair much better here

lyric crater
#

It’s second day of MSQ, very few people got there, let alone at the 2nd last area

golden bridge
#

True :/

vivid notch
#

EW 82 ||the worst part I think is the game taking your agency away like, you don't even get to complain or say how bullshit this is, you just have to go along because reasons.||

lyric crater
#

Actually u double people ever started MSQ with the ammount of time you need to level sage/reaper and start the first dungeon

digital summit
#

so he can levitate now?

gaunt star
#

Heh, the only time that happened with me was with Alphinaud during the toad quest.

mint sail
stone grail
digital summit
#

hes goin to the moon by foot!

stone grail
#

i tried it and i dont see a diference tbh so not sure if its worth buying it

mint sail
#

this joek makes more sense after the lv81 dungeon btw

opaque shuttle
#

(question regarding story of the first trial of EW) ||who's the human-form ancient with a white haired ponytail that encourages us before we fight Zodiark? hythlodaeus?||

stone grail
#

idk if i needed to config something

digital summit
#

i just started EW so im out b4 i get spoiled!

#

have a good day everyone!

lyric crater
#

The right thing would be to spoil anything related to MSQ considering the linked message but no one is doing that

regal lantern
vivid notch
#

I mean I was already expecting them to get worse from the trailers and stuff, but I had hope that there'd be critical thinking in the story writing. Nope, there isn't.

gaunt star
#

@regal lantern So who you think is a better writer for this series if Ishiwara isnt good

gaunt star
#

Maybe you can pay him to do it

#

I like her and I actually met her before I was stationed in Japan. She is one of the best

regal lantern
#

Ishikawa isn’t bad, but her ideas aren’t diverse. The issue with that is, there’s only so much you can do before you start going in circles. And to break free, you start making unnecessarily complicated stories

vivid notch
#

also fucking imperialist

regal lantern
vivid notch
#

I was willing to give the benefit of the doubt in Shadowbringers but with the Garlemald quests it's very obvious

gaunt star
#

We got couple of 0/10 here

vivid notch
#

I was hoping for more than "not all garleans actually", but that's clearly expecting too much. Alas.

regal lantern
gaunt star
#

😋

versed hill
#

Anyone know how to get af5? Is it role quests or something?

lyric crater
#

Isn’t it MSQ 89 kou

versed hill
#

Is it, I'm not there and I want af5 for 90 so :p

gaunt star
#

To me, as a someone who loves stories, She is very good writer and I support her

glacial turret
#

Wtf whos the ||white haired man in 83 trial||

versed hill
#

just making sure

lyric crater
#

I think it’s 89 and it’s given by who you think it is

gaunt star
#

@versed hill Nobody is attacking you or anything like that and if you feel that way, then I am sorry about it

versed hill
#

? modCheck

gaunt star
#

I was talking to Rinhou

versed hill
lyric crater
#

Kousuke is now part of drama smh

regal lantern
#

Be respectful please

gaunt star
#

@regal lantern Oh well, but I am sorry and i leave it

hollow ice
#

imagine getting mad someone said you gave a story a 0/10

gaunt star
#

For the first trial in the expansion, ||does the shooting star mechanic (where he goes invulnerable and flies) have the north located at each pattern’s respective side? Or is it always where the boss is when you start the fight?||

kindred urchin
#

Question about garlemald, if they have roads, are they fit for the regalia, and if it is, can I have a street race on them

lyric crater
#

I don’t really care about others opinions on the story because I’ve enjoying them but all I have to say if you start shit because of differing opinions about a video game opinion touch grass

inner ice
#

final fantasy wait once more

vivid notch
#

with the way this is going now I'm just waiting for the ||"fighting for independence is actually just as bad if not worse than being an imperialist warring nation actually"||

inner ice
#

sharlayan music is a damn vibe

rare sinew
#

you know you love the chars when ||you keep replaying the night scene over who comes to see you||

modest citrus
#

For the gatherer/crafter stuff, is there anything I should do in preparation to leveling them up from 80 to 90?

lusty hazel
#

I just saw a scene that really damaged my mental health. When you deal with Garlmald, any of you that have mental health issues with depression that might lead to suicidal thoughts, please be warned. I'm not gonna spoil it, but just be safe and make sure you take breaks in Garlmald if your health is poor. Safe journeys. 🧡

vernal nacelle
#

@inner ice I like the daytime music in Labyrinthos most myself probably so far. Along with ||the radio music in Garlemald.||

gaunt star
#

just made it to the first trial...I was not expecting THAT to be the first trial

hardy wind
#

@onyx sundial Since You can't post images in ffxiv discussion

vernal nacelle
#

I think my issue with EW so far is like... ||they're trying to have too many payoffs. Like the big emotional moments, the cutscenes with deep character conversations/revelations/etc... they're super important, but they're coming hard and fast this expansion and it's dulling the special-ness of them.||

onyx sundial
#

Yuck

#

Oh well

#

Thats why also why the gcds are a bit more stronger

hardy wind
#

its over a GCD to cast them since you have to cast Eukrasia first

crisp depot
#

garleans || would rather freeze to death than accept help, fuck em ||

robust crescent
#

you better carry them

inner ice
#

lmfao

gaunt star
#

I am not sure how to feel about the garlean plot, but honestly, it is such a huge trope (a trope that Japan love to death) so, should not be surprised. Its not completely bad, just a bit hard to feel sympathic, at least until ||you meet Jullius||

lyric crater
#

||its jullus||

vivid notch
gaunt star
#

||why?||

vivid notch
#

there were two sympathetic characters in the garlean plot ||and the game killed them|| haha

vivid notch
crisp depot
#

|| the one imperial soldier from the XIV legion hates me for killing her friends at the praetorium. || i'll fuckin do it again

vivid notch
#

^

vernal nacelle
#

Oh NOOOOOO I'm on a date with ||Zenos this time! ||

gaunt star
#

||its hard to feel sympathetic when you kill tons of Garlean solders in leveling :P||

vernal nacelle
#

@vivid notch Oh are you not finished with Garlemald yet?

crisp depot
#

|| i did, in fact do it again, over and over. got some cool mounts out of it lmao ||

vivid notch
vivid notch
gaunt star
vivid notch
#

the game trying to make me feel empathy for them is never going to work and just going to make me angry at the game

gaunt star
#

same

#

idk why wrtiers love putting these kinds of messages in media. I even seen some western shows that do this like the walking dead, lmao with this same kind of "forgiveness" bullshit.

vivid notch
#

yeah, it's really uncritical writing

indigo shale
#

because pure revenge never solves anything

crisp depot
#

|| i feel bad for the civilians caught in a shit situation but the leaders aren't helping them at all ||

silver lintel
#

Brd is looking like best ranged atm right?

vivid notch
#

there's two versions, the first is "yeah we have these characters we think are cool and want the audience to like them, so let's ignore everything they've done and just gloss over it"

gaunt star
#

||it really pains me to see alphinaud and alisaie try so hard to help them and only get treated like trash. 😔 ||

vivid notch
#

the second is "actually there are heroes and villains on both sides and it's war that is bad actually, everyone has its reasons and the conflict that arises from these differences is the bad part and we should strive for a peaceful world because war is universally bad" which can also be used to give the villains some depth. This is the one I think Endwalker is going for, and it can work sometimes. But it needs to be well written

#

This wasn't well done.

frosty jolt
#

||THAT GUY GOT ATE||

gaunt star
indigo shale
#

its better well done than shadowbringers

inner ice
#

how long does the msq remain split for?

vivid notch
#

||for it to be well done there would need to be a counterpoint, someone who isn't a strawman letting the garleans know how trash they are or at least questioning their views. There are perfect characters for this, Lyse is the main example, but also anyone from Bozja, or Dalmasca or hell maybe even some of the Eorzeans. Instead what we get is the "we'll do everything and anything we can to help no matter what" twins, which does not work||

indigo shale
#

the garleans are being treated how i expected them to be, assholes to the bitter end, which makes sense based on all that has happened

vivid notch
vernal nacelle
#

@vivid notch How is it any different than Shadowbringers making us feel empathy for Emet Selch who has murdered literal entire worlds?

gaunt star
#

I mean, I am not going to argue with that. Shadowbringer kind of did the same thing. soo....

#

But at the same time, one major difference

#

Characters wasnt really bending over for them like the garleans, I guess. No main characters went out of their way to forgive them, I guess.

vivid notch
vernal nacelle
#

Well I mean multifaceted villains like that are far more interesting than generic RAWR I AM EVIL villains like Zenos. So it's little shock they're trying to do more with Garlemald this expansion too.

#

Zenos is such a snoozefest because he IS just evil.

vivid notch
#

also, there's a very important difference, I think (but your mileage may vary in this one): this is done so you get more on the Garleans' side. Emet was still a villain, what was done was give him a motivation and a tragic backstory, but he never stopped being the worst. In fact he is the final boss of Shadowbringers. What this is doing is to reduce the "villain quocient" of the garleans

indigo shale
#

zenos is the best villain in the game

vivid notch
indigo shale
#

they dont try to make him sympathetic, (and hopefully they dont)

gaunt star
#

I am going to be honest. I am happy the villains are more evil and less sympathic in endwalker.

vernal nacelle
#

I couldn't possibly be more bored every time Zenos is on screen.

crisp depot
#

|| the logical conclusion of being a reasonable garlean is either defecting or getting killed ||

vivid notch
#

I love him. He doesn't lie to you, he doesn't have the tragic bullshit or anything. He's a villain and he's an obstacle

vernal nacelle
#

Whereas Emet's screentime was the best parts of ShB.

indigo shale
#

emet was the worst part of shb

gaunt star
#

it feels ncie to just have villains that are fully evil and just do evil shit to screw with you

vernal nacelle
#

It's just so shallow though.

#

@indigo shale Wow, I have never heard anyone say that before, haha. He's the best part, imo.

indigo shale
#

but i dont feel theyve tried to make the us sympathetic for the garleans at all, all theyve done is show the garleans as assholes but the GC of E not giving up hope that they can change things

gaunt star
#

sympathetic villains are great, but they shouldnt be overdone, imo. Shb was the perfect time for that and did it in very good way.

#

and Emet is one of my favorites

hollow ice
#

didnt they already start reducing the villain quotient of the garleans from like post arr
first we have nero defect, kind of like a nibble of hope of a maybe they arent all bad tho hes still an asshole
then we find that there are political parties opposed to the warmongering in sb
and shb we get more defectors, and some other stuff I cant remember off the top of my head

slender siren
#

World firsts sadcatthumbsup

indigo shale
#

the problem with the garleans was emet selch

#

its his doing that they are the way they are and to a lesser extent, elidibus, zenos and fandaniel

lyric crater
#

||I think they’re just showing how the way that garlean was built and functioned made them keep the spirit of being assholes, feeling superior, even when the world is ending or their nation is decaying, causes of being taught that, and people are afraid of the new and unknown, so it’s a new concept||

gaunt star
#

||Hmm, I suppose so.||

hollow ice
#

hmmm yknow Im starting to think that this might be an issue of people who have the story fresh in their minds from going through it liking it more vs people who did it a while back feeling its out of left field but id have to know how long ago people finished SHB and all the other expacs XD

indigo shale
#

he's the one that set up garleans and garlemald to be like this, under a restrictive reigime that makes everyone an enemy out to kill them, which is why the twins and GC of E want to help, as the garleans are a victim of circumstance

lyric crater
#

||don’t forget that garlemald was built on hate, fear and the complex of war to survive by reclaiming land, this is WHO they are, they can’t deny it easily and will not trust people that they have fought as enemies so easily, this is reflected in real world issues with dictatorship nations and their people being ignorant and having superiority problems over other nations ||

gaunt star
crisp depot
#

|| it's kinda sad in a way to see the garleans clinging to their notions of superiority even as garlemald stands in ruins around them. like berlin in 1945 ||

lyric crater
#

With that said the msq is still right about one thing ||the civilians are victims of the real purpose of garlemald stated by emet, they’re just fuel to the war and victims since, even if it’s not abruptly known to the WoL and the scions, they’re victims of their system and of their true purpose under the flag||

indigo shale
#

all things considered, it was quite a shit year for garlemald, 2 dead emperors, ascians everywhere, civil wars, successful liberations, splinter factions, almost total destruction, mass tempering, so its quite easy to see why they dont want help from us, regardless of the end days approaching

lyric crater
#

This is why I enjoy garlemald a lot, it actually throws stuff that could and very well has happened in the real world towards some uh
Wars

indigo shale
#

i find it quite odd that people get the idea that the game wants us to sympathise with garleans, when i havent seen a single thing hint towards that

vivid notch
hollow ice
#

it could also be that they are sympathizing with the garleans but are catching themselves and then backpeddeling which is making them frustrated

indigo shale
#

if anything the only garleans its tried to get us to like is gaius and nero

vivid notch
#

for much less of what he's done we threw Fordola in forever jail

crisp depot
#

maybe the game wants us to sympathize with garleans, maybe not. anyway i don't sympathize with them lmao

lyric crater
#

||they’re just people in the system used to stoke conflicts and fire, people that carry orders willingly like zenos and high ranking soldier like Nael are the actual people that you shouldn’t forgive and forget, but the lower common soldiers and survivors of the civil war, because they’re just, well, victims|| with that said I enjoyed garlemald a lot and shalayan too

hollow ice
vivid notch
lyric crater
#

Ok

vivid notch
#

those are the ones that defected. The civilians sure, whatever, but the soldiers? kill them all

indigo shale
#

wow

hollow ice
indigo shale
#

and also the soldiers that are their by choice are so due to mass propaganda, its the higher ups that are the problem not the soldiers

barren karma
#

I had a feeing we were gonna go good on the Empire before the end of the story arc...that way well.....Garlean reconstruction anyone? hehe

lyric crater
#

Garlemald has some fucked up shit because of the very way it was conceived and created and also it’s downfall, but every beginning has an end, and the end can be transformed into a new beginning

barren karma
#

Also housing!

indigo shale
#

also genocide is not an answer to genocide

inner ice
#

are the grapes crystals with a grape texture baked on

spiral notch
#

Any one got images of ||Manusya Armor||?

mint notch
#

Fuck me i'm so stupid, I clicked onto Twitch and the first thing I see in the FFXIV category is Xenos staring down ||hydaelyn|| as a boss fight.itachi_facepalm

lyric crater
#

Yes

mint notch
#

I should have known better than to click the FFXIV category

barren karma
#

I mean even Reaper is a bit of hint of ||"garleans good now'|| in the story. I knew this was coming.

hollow ice
indigo shale
#

they have not shown "garleans good now" once in EW

hollow ice
#

welcome to the internet

mint notch
#

take a look around

hollow ice
#

also what are you doing in whats basically the endwalker spoiler channel

mint notch
#

I never learn from my mistakes

vivid notch
indigo shale
#

i think people are going into the garlemald section of the game with prenotions of what they think will happen then ignore anything that does actually happen

vivid notch
#

less guilty than the one who ordered but still guilty

ebon vortex
#

indoctrination is a pretty powerful mechanic

vivid notch
#

if we get Garlemald Reconstruction before Ala Mhigan Reconstruction now that would be fucked up

#

expected, but fucked up

lyric crater
indigo shale
#

well atm garlemald is a little more fucked up, as in not habitable so it would require more atetntion to rebuild

blazing edge
#

My god, the quest item tooltips are great

sick flame
#

The thing is if you want to break a cycle, complete amnesties for soldiers are required, at best higher ups are the only ones who are executed

woven bear
#

On a different topic, what’s the consensus on the fastest way to level alts from 80-90.

indigo shale
#

like killing the garleans will do is cause more problems, and just prove their misguided thoughts

sick flame
#

I am talking about garlemald ;)

blazing edge
#

what the fuck are you guys talking about

ebon vortex
#

is bozja not giving good exp past 79/80?

woven bear
#

Haven’t tested, but I would imagine it does after 80

lyric crater
#

Mate people are literally talking about garlemald and that’s all garlemald is all about, if you have a problem with it throw a modmail

ebon vortex
#

we likely won't get this expansion's version till 6.2 so its probably roulettes/dungeon spam

woven bear
#

Dies*

#

Had a feeling that would be the case. Trusts take way too long right now too so that’s out

magic forge
lyric crater
#

There’s been something akin to Bozja in the files already for level 90 stuff

ebon vortex
#

trusts are only better if your queue + runtime is faster

hollow ice
#

the final fight in tower zot was a lot more effort than I was ready for after all that questing

sick flame
#

how would you even deduce that calzone?

lyric crater
#

Same file location ?

sick flame
#

and so the cycle continues

inner ice
#

wow that's a good detail

lyric crater
#

It’s literally under the same file tree as Bozja was found

sick flame
#

ah, thats cool

inner ice
#

krile even after the cutscene is still looking towards the flowers

sick flame
#

so a bozja type area and deep dungeon content would be nice

ebon vortex
#

at this point just level your main jobs via roulette/dungeons until we get endwalker bozja

hollow ice
#

moon bozja wen final boss lunar bahamut but its the other one

ebon vortex
#

no point rushing all 90s

magic forge
#

It’s still 3rd day of the patch guys KEK

sick flame
#

no point rushing, except story cause spoilers

#

"rushing"

summer orbit
#

They need to upgrade the bloody servers

ebon vortex
#

yea you can rush that i guess, more of a psa for alt jobs

sick flame
#

played 18h yesterday

inner ice
#

lmfao'

sick flame
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🐸

lyric crater
vivid notch
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I feel he left out a very important word there: ||CONSCRIPTED||

real venture
lyric crater
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People say “they should upgrade the servers” go on give them the hardware, literally no one has the hardware for upgrades atm

woven bear
vernal nacelle
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@hollow ice Don't forget about Gaius, he was in the mix there too.

magic forge
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We’re in a pandemic. Could be at least a bit considerate

hollow ice
woven bear
real venture
inner ice
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can i get the coat that that one lady is wearing in the toad cutscene?

lyric crater
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Also before anyone says you can find like a rtx 3060, server upgrades needs more than 1 or even 100 of pieces to warrant the budget and the money spent on it

woven bear
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Whelp, just got in! Cya everyone

vernal nacelle
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Jeez, that whole ||"escape from Garlemald to warn your friends while RPing as a trash mob" event after your date with Zenos is definitely the most intense thing so far.||

barren karma
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I kinda wish after Endwalker they'd make Garleans playable....but I suppose that wont happen. 😦

lyric crater
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Don’t worry lamer it gets worse

real venture
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man, less then being in queue, its the fact that the number is just not dropping

ebon vortex
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playable garleans would kinda conflict with the whole pre EW story i guess

indigo shale
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it wouldnt make sense from from an arr start, and would also would mean we likely wouldnt have the echo or blessing of light, or be able to use any job

real venture
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the other day, at least it dropped at a steady rate

ebon vortex
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oh yea the aether thing too

lyric crater
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Servers are stable now compared to first day/hours, that’s why the queue is dropping slowly

barren karma
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@median star ||I know but I mean....perhaps....a wizard did it? hehe ;)||

indigo shale
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plus being hot off the foot of the calamity i doubt we would be trusted much

ebon vortex
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garlean exclusive magitek-based job maybe

indigo shale
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itd be like ultra-nightmare in doom, you arent going to have a good time

barren karma
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FF14 hardcore Garlean WOL playthrough!

vernal nacelle
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I'll be happy when I'm finished with Garlemald so I can get out of this winter coat glamour. xD

indigo shale
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assuming we'd still have soul of azem though, hydaelyn would probably pull some bs to make being garlean not inhibit aether manipulation

lyric crater
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Garleans could use some jobs in the game but it’s not viable considering 2.0/4.0 the garleans were the problem + they’re just hyurs with a fancy dot

ebon vortex
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if they separate 7.0 story with a "reset" then maybe garlean playthrough would be possible

inner ice
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|| fUcking emet ||

indigo shale
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ehhh, the problem with that is the fanbase, as it appears some dont think garleans are capable of change

cedar portal
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Has anyone found any wings other than the Diabolos wings from the Nut exchange?

lyric crater
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Also they already said hrothgar and viera are the last races added for the foreseeable future

ebon vortex
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well they would also need to fix the aether thing somehow if they wanna add garleans

indigo shale
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im suprised at this rate people like ishgard due to their problems (though granted not quite the same)

boreal palm
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Femhrothgar is coming right?

lyric crater
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Yeah

ebon vortex
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tbf you hardly see players as elezen

neon wing
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that's one way to put it

cedar portal
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No wings? ANywhere?

boreal palm
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Oh god could you imagine a playable race with wings

cinder spindle
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EW final boss

boreal palm
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Real

ebon vortex
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there's this one from gold saucer

cedar portal
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Any kind. The notes said wings were added as a fashion acessory, but I've only found the one kind.

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Ah, GS? Alright

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wow...literally 4...

silent forge
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demon wings from hunt trader in ew

vernal nacelle
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Okay so I think I'm nearing the end of Garlemald and why is ||Lyse suddenly in her skimpy Ala Mhigan outfit again? Poor girl freezin' her tits off.||

gray cobalt
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The source for the pixie wings is apparently undiscovered

ebon vortex
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some of the summoner chest piece from ARR/HW have mini wings

cedar portal
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Yeah, I've got Diabolos Wings already

vernal nacelle
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Do we know where the Thavnarian hair bow is from?

gray cobalt
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The Fallen Angel wings are apparently from bicolor gemstones, but I can’t tell you which vendor

cedar portal
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Probably the unified one.

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After all zones are maxed out

gray cobalt
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I suspect that may be the case, but it might not be

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The Deepshadow Barding, for instance, is just a Lakeland vendor. If both sets of wings are from gemstones, one might be regional and the other city based

cedar portal
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That's true..but that price is really high for bcgs

gray cobalt
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I doubt many people have success completed the 360 fates yet

plucky palm
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Thf is coming...

gray cobalt
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But 60 fates is easier

vernal nacelle
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OMFG, and of course as soon as I say that in this channel, the next dialogue ||gives my WoL two different ways to comment on why Lyse is dressed that way. ||

gaunt star
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extremes are out?

cedar portal
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lol TL

gaunt star
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or still not there yet

plucky palm
silent forge
gaunt star
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i mean endwalker extremes eh

vernal nacelle
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Also, ||Magnai and Sadu just need to get a room already.||

plucky palm
gaunt star
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oh i see tyvm then where u can unlock them tho

vernal nacelle
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@silent forge Oh was there commentary in the Stormblood story about Lyse being hot (NOT THAT KIND OF HOT, YOU WANKERS) in fights?

plucky palm
blazing edge
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||I dislike the amount of death flags being sent to me and the twins. I'm at Garlemald||

gaunt star
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damn then i need to find them myself

indigo shale
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death flags dont exist dw

vernal nacelle
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Awww damnit, everyone else is ||back in their normal clothes for this place and I'm still in my winter gear, QQ!||

plucky palm
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I'm 90% sure thf will come to the game on 6.4 or 7.0

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For real

summer orbit
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Players in queue 4792

vivid notch
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ah yes the thing I love most about JRPGs, the "stand around and do nothing while bad shit happens"

real venture
vivid notch
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||he was right there you just needed to cut his arm off to get the button thing||

summer orbit
blazing edge
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THE MUSIC IS SO GOOD

summer orbit
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Its infuriating.

plucky palm
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||Having the original snes version of the ffiv battle theme on the moon made me happy||

lyric crater
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While I am considerate of their position due to how Covid is affecting server parts shortage

Fuck these queues.

sonic atlas
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IT IS !!!!!!!!!!!!!

blazing edge
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||but i think he likes to be edged for battle||

lyric crater
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||last thing I want is a vegeta/Bills/Broly moment||

blazing edge
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gaol* uwucarby

slate ridge
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i feel like even the ffxiv wiki also shows some spoilers

rose arch
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||that part where you choose who comes to your room at night, IT WAS SO HARD TO CHOOSE~||

slate ridge
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the side articles shows ||amon, who is who fandaniel really was before emet selch found him and the one you fight in the crystal towers is a clone||

lyric crater
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The FFXIV wiki is meant to be where you find information, so of course spoilers are there

sonic atlas
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it didnt cover the photo.....

blazing edge
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wow Garlemald ||sure is a place full of sunshine and rainbows huh. That suicide was haunting||

lyric crater
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But the idiots over at that wiki really need to get their shit straight and put stuff like that buried deep on the wiki, not have Emet appear as Solus when you type up Solus on google

blazing edge
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like holy shit lol

blazing edge
lyric crater
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They don’t, but they literally put Emet selch, also known as Solus first,m

stable sable
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Declan1202

stable sable
lyric crater
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Did you just paste your password

stable sable
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absolutely not

frosty jolt
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||THERE IS SO MUCH DEATH||

gleaming gazelle
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i hate hate hate the escort and sneak quests :(

barren karma
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I get the very distinct feeling this is ||'cleaning the slate'|| before the next big adventure.

vivid notch
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I love you ||Sadu||

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(83 spoilers btw)

solemn crater
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Does anyone know where you can buy 560 accessories for tomes? town and npc? @__@;;

hollow ice
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||Emmanelains sick dance moves is all thats keeping this war together|| 81-82 spoils

silver vector
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so assuming aether teleportation is a testing method. These just means StB makes no sense on how people were able to travel in mere minutes between the FAR east and Eorzea?

brisk sapphire
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I can't even use teh short queue function yoshi p told us about

hollow ice
errant perch
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dw shes not there for long

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think its like 2 cutscenes or something

neon wing
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Where are the last 2 aether current quests in thavnair?

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I got the MSQ aether current quest but only have 2 completed

hollow ice
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if theres no more blues on your map they prolly just unlock later down the msq line

neon wing
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or do they appear after

shrewd crystal
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They appear lvl85/86

hollow ice
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they have a few callouts to different jobs you leveled if you talk to people after that cutscene its nice

neon wing
left lynx
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Does the game keep on crashing/freezing for anyone else in the 1st cutscene with Fandaniel in the Tower of Zot?

neon wing
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aha, the quests appeared

robust crescent
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||krile gets headache.
me : "Champions from beyond the rift, HEED MY CALL"|| kek

shrewd crystal
left lynx
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Great game is stuck on a single frozen frame

crisp depot
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|| in from the cold stealth duty is actually terrible ||

tight shadow
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Any Healers?

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First trial of EW and theres no healers

ebon vortex
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healer mains busy lvling sage probably

sonic atlas
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HOLY FUCK

tight shadow
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This is so sad!

sonic atlas
vernal nacelle
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@sonic atlas What level are those spoilers from?

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Also umm... I just finished the 2nd dungeon and WOW, Square has really upped their dungeon game. That was fantastic. The bosses, visuals, etc.

hasty drum
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the background theme for the baldesion annex samples a previous FF song, does anyone know what that song is? It's driving me crazy trying to remember

vernal nacelle
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I mean I know bosses are always harder at the beginning of an expac, but still.

woeful dagger
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Dungeon 2 was really easy I thought lol

shrewd crystal
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It was pretty cool tho

woeful dagger
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Only have had one wipe so far, that was in|| Dungeon 3 ||.

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Oh and || Trial 1 ||

sonic atlas
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currently on the quest after doing first trial :p dont click if not there yet

marsh osprey
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graha eating borgar brings me endless joy

vernal nacelle
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@woeful dagger Maybe it's not the difficulty exactly, we had 1 wipe on the 2nd boss. It's just the bosses have so much more going on mechanically on top of having a LOT more HP it feels like.

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Also I want to reiterate how much fun BRD is now, especially on trash packs.

woeful dagger
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Guess it depends on your party members and if they were already in full 530/535 or not.

vernal nacelle
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Oh well I was definitely not in full 530/535, lol.

marsh osprey
vernal nacelle
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To switch gears to something lore-wise... how is it that ||Fandaniel/Zenos can release Zodiark if all the worlds haven't been rejoined? Isn't he not even whole until then? Or are they content just with an 8/14 rejoined Zodiark?||

tight shadow
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Im waiting for the healers for the first trial

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Mega drought on primal

woeful dagger
shrewd crystal
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I faced tank drought in second trial.

woeful dagger
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I also did 6 FATEs in every zone for Riding Map, as well as all Aether Current quests. So I didn't just b-line through the MSQ.

marsh osprey
woeful dagger
fallow breach
frosty jolt
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how many role quests are there?

woeful dagger
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especially when its MSQ-tied, probably

woeful dagger
naive fern
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you guys don't use trusts? 🤔

woeful dagger
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Trusts take about as long as waiting in a queue would lol

tight shadow
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trusts are fine for me cause I like the lore even tho they take longer

shrewd crystal
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I prefer the silence and company of 3 other strangers who only type “o/“ :^)

frosty jolt
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why queue with cpus when you can show off your mediocre skills to random strangers

woeful dagger
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i'll probably go back and re-do them all with Trusts to see the interactions

tight shadow
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Theyre especially useful with the healer draught

wind bough
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If your queue is over 15 min trusts are def faster

sonic atlas
naive fern
fallow breach
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queued over 3 hours to get kicked out at number 1 restingfoxface

sonic atlas
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i just get on early when queue is 30

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friends are tryna get in right now and its like 3k :)

robust crescent
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have we've seen these flowers before? They're familiar

frosty jolt
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you can grow them in your house

real venture
sonic atlas
woeful dagger
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i logged on around 5:15am and queue was like 14

robust crescent
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as someone who got on cactuar at 8:40 and queue was 50

tight shadow
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I logged in at 12 PM CST to a 1200 person queue but it was fast enough like 20 min

sonic atlas
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queue yesterday at fricking 2am when you could first long on was absolutely ridiculous

woeful dagger
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was only about 300 for me at launch

tight shadow
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800 at launch for me

woeful dagger
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actually was 800, but when i was at 300-500 a ton of people got 2002 and i didn't and the game let me in

sonic atlas
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2000 for me cause i crashed :)

tight shadow
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managed to slip in. My friend had like 3k or something

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Nice, I didnt get 2002 that entire time i waited so whew

sonic atlas
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i think launch queue went buy so quick cause people just went to bed instead of waiting

woeful dagger
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lot of people didn't get off for work

sonic atlas
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i did :D

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but i had school so :(

next quarry
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I should not have logged off lmao

sonic atlas
robust crescent
next quarry
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nah

robust crescent
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I tried every method to bypass, none seem to work.

next quarry
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i havent had an error all of yesterday or the 8 hours ive played today

sonic atlas
next quarry
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yeah

robust crescent
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thought u meant staying on while asleep

plush cosmos
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only time i've been able to login was at 2am this morning

next quarry
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oh lol, early monring queues are really low anyway

plush cosmos
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i can't even get to the character select screen now

shrewd crystal
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It’s been an easy time as an OCE player :> <50 q

torn fiber
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anyone here finished the sidequest Secret in the box? I have done entry 1 and 3 but cant figure out 2

late fable
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Over 2 hours in queue trying to get into the final trial

real venture
sonic atlas
late fable
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Played at start of early access, played most of yesterday, played all morning today, I did take a few breaks/sleep/eat obviously

sonic atlas
late fable
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Oh yeah, this expansion has been amazing, really just wanting to finish this trial so I can start doing alt jobs

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And the job gear is 10/10, not only in design but the way they have it set up to obtain it, really really nice

harsh nimbus
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help does anuone know where this aether current would even be

real venture
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This 81/82 area... don't try to make me happy before ripping out my heart

shrewd crystal
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@harsh nimbus under, there’s a hole

late fable
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Only logical answer is under you

harsh nimbus
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ty :)

shrewd crystal
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To your SE

summer orbit
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I started at 5700 got down to 1067 and then Error 2002

robust crescent
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I don't like this one bit

summer orbit
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And now I cant get past the start menu when I login

sudden scroll
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That moment when you queue up for the first trial and it's 29 minute long wait time

real venture
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When can I attune to that one new zone around 82?

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How do I do spoiler text?

weary yoke
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use || around your words...

next quarry
frosty jolt
weary yoke
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spoiler example ||like this||

real venture
next quarry
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story progression

real venture
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ok, thanks!

next quarry
real venture
next quarry
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yes lmao

vernal nacelle
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||So the moon IS, in fact, haunted! Moon's haunted.||

mortal solar
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lunatender blossom? anyone know how to craft or find

late fable
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Probably killing the lunatender enemies

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You can use context clues to figure out where a lunatender would be

weary yoke
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wait, what? we're expected to think? and not just blindly follow guides? gasp

late fable
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they're on the moon @mortal solar

mortal solar
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damn yall need some sleep

next quarry
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everyone does, do it during queue

woeful dagger
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how can i touch grass if i live on the moon

mortal solar
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queue ? never heard of it

late fable
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I slept 10 hours last night and I'm still in queue for the last trial 🤷‍♂️

next quarry
mortal solar
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cant hear yall on the moon sry

vernal nacelle
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@mortal solar Why do we need sleep? xD

toxic zealot
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I dunno if this is common knowledge or who needs to see this, but this stupid sexy map might be what you need:

late fable
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1 more dps for final trial of the expansion scaryspriggan

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I've been in queue for hours, please tatarucry

real venture
shrewd crystal
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I cannot unsee the curves

toxic zealot
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Please enjoy.

late fable
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I'm fine with wiping, just means it'll be fun

next quarry
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fuck now im caught up in the 2002 spiral

shrewd crystal
viscid monolith
next quarry
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i feel like these errors are telling me to just go play somethign else

barren karma
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So this is all making me wonder....what comes after Endwalker.....what could they do next.

hollow ice
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well find out starting from 6.x I believe

slender siren
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6.1 is a new story

woeful dagger
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WoW crossover event where we ||pilot the moon to Azeroth||

hollow ice
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azeroth is just another shard

slender siren
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|| I reached Garlemald ||

next quarry
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thats when everything gets wild

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have fun

woeful dagger
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new dommy mommy?

slender siren
woeful dagger
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by wild they mean wildly ||depressing||

next quarry
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yes

slender siren
vagrant meadow
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Is it me or does the beginning of this expansion feel really slow? The amount of escorting and follow the leader quests really slow things down imo.

woeful dagger
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first half of every expansion is very slow

slender siren
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Shadowbringers was the same way

blazing ridge
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um not sure if this the right place to ask just got to the ||radio part in garlemald|| and wanted to know if theres a roll for it

woeful dagger
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then the last few levels are really fast

slender siren
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The double msqs at the start

blazing ridge
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May i know the name and how i obtain it :X like msq or fates n such

woeful dagger
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oh by roll i thought you meant "role" as in is it story-important. sorry, i have no idea if you can obtain it

blazing ridge
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Ahh ic haha i meant orchestrion roll, Ty tho!

woeful dagger
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ohhh that. yeah no clue sorry my homie.

dull lake
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Can someone tell me what does it say here? welcome to the ???

woeful dagger
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Classroom

limber apex
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n can anyone remind me of the colors of the emotions for the flower/

dull lake
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i can tell the first letter is an H

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hpdream?