retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[drowsy belfry]

We're gonna go to the 8th Timeline for an Expansion and fight a leveilleur

His twins died, didn't stop him from having more kids tho

[gaunt star]

The people of Sharlayan DO atleast know what the fuck an Ascian is, right?

[distant sonnet]

God I really hope we don't time travel.

[bold condor]

Yes, of course.

[drowsy belfry]

God me neither

[heady shadow]

we did it in 11 so we'll be finnneee

[distant sonnet]

I know Time Travel happens but it happens to other people, thats fine.

[stiff charm]

if we do, it should only be to gather knowledge and NOT to change anything about the past

[signal vault]

Eorzean got fucked up by Empire, time reserved it and solved it. They either don't know about how timeline could be fucked with or something they know is even bigger than how G'raha could change time

[heady shadow]

even the simple act of breaking grass changes time with time travel lol

[distant sonnet]

I see you out here Iroha

You stop dicking with time.

[drowsy belfry]

Yoshi saying "Yeah we COULD do Time Travel in the future" killed me inside

Please, no more timelines

[heady shadow]

also maybe instead of a timne travel we'll relive memories.

like what they did in Seven deadly sins with king and diana

[signal vault]

Time travel in ff14 is easy to understand tho because of magic

[distant sonnet]

Fuckin Iroha is still here she never went home.
Waiting.
Looming.

[heady shadow]

where?

[kindred rampart]

unseen by us players

[brisk quail]

Do you...

Want some...

Time travel?

• Iroha in 6.1

[distant sonnet]

Dunno. At the end of the event she stayed in Eorzea though.

[heady shadow]

ah

[stiff charm]

do you know.. time travel?

[kindred rampart]

she was expecting to go home once she was done recalling memories but nope
WELCOME TO EORZEA

[signal vault]

Who Iroha

[heady shadow]

also by this logic you wouldnt mind of the 8th calamity emet selch showed up would ye?

[brisk quail]

Time traveling bitch from FFXI

She does timey wimey bullshit. And also summons pheonix I guess

[distant sonnet]

Iroha is basically "What if Trunks was waifu" from FF11

[heady shadow]

Now you need a Zamasu

[kindred rampart]

she's alternate Tenzens daughter and is the FF11's protags student in a future/doomed timeline

[heady shadow]

which ends up being Fandaniel xD

[signal vault]

But there's only 1 Emet. Only G'raha travel back in time tho

[brisk quail]

Basically...

Iroha and time travel bad

NO TIME TRAVEL. STOP. IROHA NO. PUT IT AWAY

[heady shadow]

if trunks and cell have told us anything...... time travel sucks

[brisk quail]

PUT BACK THE TRAVEL BACK IN TIME JUICE

[signal vault]

[gaunt star]

How old's Iroha again?

[signal vault]

Doraemon taught me about time travel. They have time police for that

[distant sonnet]

She went back in time, changed the future, went forward in time.. and ended up in FF14 instead.

[signal vault]

If anything, snake and time travel bad

[heady shadow]

doesnt mshe drag the player through time in ff11?

[kindred rampart]

14 years old

[brisk quail]

Kept you waiting huh?

[heady shadow]

isnt that what those weird things around are for? the time travel stuff?

they look like those weird voidsent things that eat you?

[distant sonnet]

The Atomos?

[heady shadow]

ye

i think thats what someone told me when i first saw one

[dim sigil]

Isnt that the 11 armor we got

[kindred rampart]

https://twitter.com/Gameodactyl/status/749029971566309376

Patrick Gann (@Gameodactyl)

Tenzen, Kagero, baby Iroha [FFXI]

Twitter · Jul 2, 2016, 12:00 AM

[heady shadow]

shame the only ff11 like thing we got was eureka

that I know of

[kindred rampart]

a lot of enemy models were brought in before eureka

[heady shadow]

I get enemy models but I mean content

[kindred rampart]

we had https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc4geDJdqOE

[heady shadow]

now we are gonna be in mostly FF4 and some FFx stuff

the only other event i did was the one with iroha. i never did the shantatto event and i dont even remember if they did it again after SB launched

if they did i either didnt know or i was staying out of ff14 for a break

[kindred rampart]

we'll probably get more eventually

[signal vault]

I want more events

[heady shadow]

I will say though I have her low res staff xD

[signal vault]

Paegantry alone is not enough

[kindred rampart]

likely when FFXI has its 20th anniversary

[heady shadow]

thats another year right?

[kindred rampart]

yeah next year

[heady shadow]

feel old

[heady shadow]

i tried playing ff11 but to me im not too good at mmos in general, so like not having freidns around to save me from mobs that chase you across the map...yeah

last I knew i was going to bastok to finish this quest to get the rouge mithra from windurts

or thief i mean

[signal vault]

I know like 3 ff games

The one with cloud, squall, yuna, ff15 and this

[pulsar current]

you could literally say you know fifteen ff games, count from 1 to 15 lol

[dim sigil]

16 now

[opal harness]

is ff11 even that active?

Im almost half tempted to play some of it while i wait for endwalker

[swift rune]

finally got the basch armor in zadnor

so happy

[heady shadow]

ff11 still breathes

[kindred rampart]

now you can go to Limsa dressed ||in Vaan glamour|| shouting to everyone who you are!
https://youtu.be/vSyfGm6wXgs

[bold condor]

inb4 this is how Gabranth returns

Shaves his beard, wears Vaan glamour like "Hi, I'm Sky Captain Vaan from Dalmasca!"

"Don't believe Lyon's lies!"

[kindred rampart]

full circle with Basch originally being the main protag to Vaan taking it for more appeal

[bold condor]

inb4 this somehow ends with fucking Gabranth marrying Ashe.

[next quarry]

I wonder what kind of content the next thingy is gonna be

[kindred rampart]

unless he too has a son no one knows about that also looks exactly like him @bold condor

[bold condor]

Ashe doesn't have a daughter.

[stiff charm]

i could see it being an open-field content with more loot and no relic, with the relic being attached to a deep dungeon or other content this time

maybe a more arr/hw style relic

[bold condor]

She's just Ashe, but she time jumped or something idk too long didn't play.

[heady shadow]

i havent done the story yet

[stiff charm]

deep dungeon relic would actually be pretty sick though, maybe having it also increases your power in the deep dungeon like how the aetherpool system used to

[kindred rampart]

I just wonder how they'll continue with Ivalice content down the line when a lot of it is "history" now lol

[heady shadow]

they probably dont intend on continuing it.
maybe if there was a expansion going there at bes5t they would give reference to those who finished bozja

[kindred rampart]

also kinda bummed they hyped up Gabranth and it ended up being "Nah. . .I think I'm dying lol!" offscreen "I'm dead lol. . .||maybe. . .lol||"

[torpid yoke]

Never again

[oak pike]

wasnt ARR n HW relic like rng shit

[stiff charm]

with. less rng
im not a sadist

[viscid monolith]

She was frozen for 30 years to fake her death

[heady shadow]

................ I came up with a idea

[bold condor]

Captain Ashemerica.

It's a shame, she had a date with her brother and now she'll never make it.

[kindred rampart]

https://twitter.com/IncorrectFFQTS/status/1401562869376892931?s=20

Incorrect Final Fantasy Quotes (@IncorrectFFQTS)

https://t.co/h3Sn5W9W2S

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[heady shadow]

what if ||Fourchenault and Alphinaud had already communicated that the telephori were watching sharlayan and needed something to make them think sharlayan was in their grasp. All they need is Alisaie's reaction to it. would explain why G'raha for instance wondered about his 'performance' . and alphinaud is known to keep his sister in the dark just like their dad keep people in the dark.||

[bold condor]

Don't @ me for this shit.

[heady shadow]

whoops meant this for a differnt discord i did the same thing in

[severe brook]

consider the following: Fourchenault is just being an ass

[bold condor]

Possible, if unlikely.

[heady shadow]

I mean so are more then half the people we helped in the past sooo

[bold condor]

I was responding to Blitz.

[heady shadow]

the dont @ me for this shit was directed at me though?

and I was responding to blitz too.

[steel glade]

all i know is in 6.0 i need a static because i absolutely hate pf

[pine epoch]

Tactics Ogre, Ogre Battle and stuff
LUCT, MotBQ
in the Ogre series there are things like the Holy Blade Brynhildr. (Gunnhildr blade Save the Queen) the final boss of STQ is Diablos like Ogre Battle March of the Black Queen. Which the last quest name is March of the Bloody Queen.
The holy blade Brynhildr is used to sunder any seal, and vanquish armies of evil.
Albeleo and Lyon are characters in The ogre series
Pagaga's lore connects to Tactics Ogre too, Neimrahava, Gnapp and Vochstein all connect to that game

[languid breach]

Alphinaud's not Urianger to 5D chess quadruple-cross everyone. Also, were the telophoroi even watching the exchange between the twins and their dad?

[heady shadow]

no but he doesnt need to be to deceive anyone.
and for that have no clue.

[languid breach]

I think anything like this would be highly out of character for him.

[bold condor]

The Telophoroi ain't exactly that smart or stealthy, either.

Fandaniel could do it, but they'd usually show that in the scene.

[heady shadow]

Alphinaud has hidden stuff from people before.
or does the Coils raid series not count as hiding anything

[bold condor]

It doesn't because everyone in the room was involved in hiding the secret.

Alphinaud hadn't even seen his dad for almost a year when the scene with Fourchenault went down.

[heady shadow]

now this time it would just be one or two people.
the only point is to elicit a response from alisaie.

you dont need to see someone to write letters.

[bold condor]

You know the saying "you can't logic someone out of a belief they didn't logic themselves into?"

[heady shadow]

I mean just say that its a shitty idea lol

Im used to it when I got attacked for saying ardbert and Emet were gonna follow us around most of shb and got told i was a fucking idiot

[bold condor]

You @'d me because you wanted some kind of argument. I'm really not interested, though I think my opinion on the idea is clear. And, yeah, I predicted some things about Shadowbringers right, too, but I'm not about to use that as a way to try and support my arguments by slipping it into conversations that have nothing to do with it.

[crystal arrow]

still remember when people called me stupid when i said sharlayan would be the main city because it was supposedly “too far away” from garlemald

[bold condor]

Oh same.

[severe brook]

i only thought it wouldn't be Sharlayan because I thought Landis would be cool
sharlayan was my second choice

[crystal arrow]

and that there was “no narrative reason” to go to sharlayan

[heady shadow]

I @ you in a mistake because i bought this idea up in another channel with someone else and didnt pay attention

[clever flume]

i mean...at the time there was no narrative reason

[viscid monolith]

I don't get how that logic even tracks. Half of Stomblood was across the planet. Distance isn't a factor us.

[clever flume]

now we have a reason

[viscid monolith]

Plus you know. The moon is far away.

[severe brook]

tempest was also far away

[crystal arrow]

that’s... my point, the rate of sharlayan references just felt high and ham-fisted this expac compared to others.

[severe brook]

i felt they were setting up sharlayan for 7.0, like how in hindsight Dancer was helping to set up Thavnair

[heady shadow]

I was gonna bring this up to you too but since apparently I already @ ed you i saw your response and decided oh okay may as well remedy my mistake here

[crystal arrow]

Nah they introduced too many basic things about sharlayan to worldbuild for it to have been in 7.0 tbh

like the archon bread, the conversation w/ alisaie about her thesis, krile going to sharlayan, etc

[severe brook]

well yeah, and in hindsight finding out about how Sharlayan was intended to be available all the way back in 1.0 when first designed means it makes sense to have it be available earlier rather than later

[crystal arrow]

they did a lot of kinda subtle stuff like that in sb to tease shb too, like the burn and that whole escapade about draining aether in the steppe

[viscid monolith]

Blitz this doesn't count as early anymore

[severe brook]

i said earlier, not early
relativity and all that

[viscid monolith]

We all knew we were going to Sharlayan eventually and I have no idea why people were so convinced it couldn't be next expansion. It's been 8 years.

[crystal arrow]

people really wanted this to be the ilsabard expansion when it’s very much the moon expansion

it just didn’t make sense for them to make up an entirely new main city when we have one just... sitting there

(crystarium being the exception bc different dimension)

[severe brook]

Abdella is also just sitting there

[dim sigil]

At least we finally get to go to the capital I didn't expect it to be in ruins when we did go there

[crystal arrow]

ah yes, a city barely established in the in-game lore

[severe brook]

it'd be a chance to establish it more
though i have accepted my loss
just shows you should always go with your first answer

now i can wholeheartedly say that Meracydia will be 7.0!

[crystal arrow]

I still think that’s accurate

[regal lantern]

I am often baffled whenever people say things like “there’s no narrative reason for this to happen” because the writers can make anything happen. In 4.X we were settling matters with Garlemald and instead of that, we got thrown into a whole other world for a whole expansion and Garlemald just conveniently had a civil war and couldn’t cause too much drama in Eorzea. I recall i said we’d not go to Sharlayan because I felt that place would hold too much info about everything and getting access there means we’ll have good connections to a place that has most of the answers so I expected that to be reserved for the final endgame expansion. I expected Meracydia for 6.0 slightly ngl. But plot convenience is and always will be a thing. In 7.0 we can suddenly drop everything and have a whole expansion greater Hingashi! But Meracydia sounds cool too

[crystal arrow]

it won’t be hingashi

[regal lantern]

I’d be damned if it is, I’m just saying, in things like this, the unexpected and obviously expected should both be expected. Cause remember even a few days before 6.0 Announcement people were like “we just averted a calamity! There’s no way 6.0 will be another disaster cause then what’s the point of 5.0?” And then 6.0 is basically just that? Oh you averted a rejoining, to save some lives? How about you get Final Days 2.0 and fight for every lives?

[heady shadow]

technically there is a difference between a calamity and the end of the world.
this just happens with time travel

[regal lantern]

Oh and I recall I strongly Was hoping for Dalmasca to be the next expansion but Thavnair is close enough, we get similar if not more hotter version of that aesthetics

The argument presented by many were “we just averted a calamity to keep our friends and Eorzea safe! There’s no way a similar thing will happen again! Whatever Fandaniel is doing, won’t be another calamity like shit!” But final day 2.0 is like calamity on a planetary level whereas the 8th Rejoining was very similar in nature, if I recall in the Alt Timeline, Othard was affected by Black Rose too! Sure the nature of the calamity is different but it’s a massive disaster that people strongly said wouldn’t happen cause it defeats the purpose of ShB! Yet here we are

[crystal arrow]

We're probably getting Dalmasca in EW, but in relic content.

[regal lantern]

Yeah Matsuno seems excited to return

[dim sigil]

Dalmasca getting an expansion feelz werid cuz ff12

[twin zinc]

Imagine 7.0 onwards is just more shard world traveling

[languid breach]

I'm half expecting a sort of world reset with 7.0. Like, there's a successful Rejoining, or some fuckery happens with Hydaelin and somehow??? the sundering gets undone

basically something entirely reworks the world.

[turbid aspen]

YEAHHHHH WOOOOOO SHARD RESTORATION

[sour perch]

CATACLYSM 2

[chilly bluff]

Having difficulty finding that interview where Yoshida mentioned the next arc, at work currently, but I know it’s out there somewhere.

[languid breach]

All we know is that 6.0 will have no post-expansion in the sense that everything will wrap up in 6.0 and there'll be no loose plot threads to clean up

[chilly bluff]

Also he more recently said that time travel is theoretically still on the table so shits about to get weird.

[languid breach]

imagine creating an entire alternate timeline, and we can hop between the timelines (to be able to do old sidequests, job unlocks etc)

although that kinda sorta happened-ish in 5.0 with shard hopping

[chilly bluff]

Oh wait wrong channel 😅

[dim sigil]

I would much rather let us relax and have no actual threats immediately after 6.0

Let us actually enjoy our victory

Make all the story about adventuring for fun

[open verge]

Same

But I think 6.1 will be like recovering from all the crazy shit patch

[dim sigil]

Especially do not end it with a teaser about a new bad guy

[open verge]

Don’t see us being too relaxed with all the Setup for endwalker so far

I just want 6.0 in a major world changing way and 6.1 onwards is working with that

[languid breach]

Yoshi said in 6.1 "the hero goes on a new adventure". Sounds kind of lighthearted for me

I'm expecting some 4.1-esque "miscellaneous adventure"

[dim sigil]

Yes I want that all the way up until like .5

[gaunt star]

i just hope it acknowledges the events of 2.0-6.0

[languid breach]

WoL really deserves a break

[gaunt star]

WoL needs therapy not just a break

[dim sigil]

Wol is gonna retire in lav beds with Kaite

[languid breach]

whomstdve

[gaunt star]

Whose Kaite?

[stiff charm]

we already did drk quests

[stiff charm]

with kaine?

yoko taro collab 2

[bold condor]

If I had to choose the 7.0-7.3 plot I'd probably actually make it Matsuno and Ishikawa-written and base it in Ivalice-inspired zones.

[gaunt star]

hey fam the entire Source relies on u to save it, no pressure btw

[stiff charm]

7.0 politics expansion. dealing with the varying factions in newly independent garlean colonies

half the cutscenes are very intensely choreographed and sound effect laden meetings

[regal lantern]

YES LET Kazutoyo Maehiro RETURN WITH NOBUO UEMATSU ON MUSIC

[stiff charm]

nah this is sokens game, let uematsu rest

[regal lantern]

Soken doesn’t have to go if Nobuo comes

They can work together

[gaunt star]

meracydia - forums/reddit 2023

[languid breach]

oh god please no. As a player, I eat that shit up, I love hearing everyone talk and all, but my character would die like two hours into the first meeting.

[regal lantern]

Like both Answers and Dragonsong were amazing songs and guess who wrote them

[stiff charm]

my char is somewhat a self insert so he would just try to [REDACTED DUE TO POLITICAL CONTROVERSY]

[regal lantern]

It can be political in the sense of HW, that was fun

[stiff charm]

hw is the most bare bones politics possible lol i mean actual politics

[languid breach]

one thing I really want though is social encounters. Like when we convinced Chai-Nuzz to restore the lift or whatever. When you have to pick your dialogue options carefully and work towards convincing your opponent. The Chai-Nuzz one was the only one I've seen so far, but I really liked it

[stiff charm]

yes that one was so cute

[gaunt star]

7.0 garlemald restoration

rebuild the palace

[stiff charm]

as long as we can /zenossit im all for it

[gaunt star]

the fuck is Zenossit?

the way he was sitting on his throne i guess

[stiff charm]

^

please yoshi p

[gaunt star]

the /asleep emote

they could do one better tho

add it as a /cpose option no emotes n shit

[languid breach]

Garlemald housing district, when the Alliance appropriates all their land

[stiff charm]

/cpose rework. all job /cposes are no longer gender locked and add like idk a few new ones to most categories (especially sitting, m miqo sitting is ass)

[gaunt star]

thats still the alliance being nice, when we could just leave them suffering

[languid breach]

imagine Ishgard casually annexing Garlemald and forcing all of them to convert to the worship of Halone

[gaunt star]

they should worship cid

[languid breach]

According to Nero in Prae, they already do and he's incredibly salty over it

[regal lantern]

People wanna patch things with Garlemald so bad forget that they’re gonna be the recurring enemy in the game for a very long time cause there’s always going to be garlean NPCs in Eorzea

I doubt Garleans will ever be allied with Eorzea till the very end of the game, even then it’s unlikely

[languid breach]

"they just didn't get the memo and refuse to listen to the Alliance explaining the situation to them"

[regal lantern]

I mean, garleans can come and help them return? There’s that guy in La Noscea too! And those in Azys Lla

Oh and Garleans in the beast tribe quests

[languid breach]

If we get a Cata-like world rework, it would be the perfect opportunity to remove those Garlean enemies ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[crystal arrow]

They’d never do that.

[gaunt star]

https://tenor.com/view/ina-inanis-ninomae-ninomae-inanis-wink-gif-18669450

cant wait for 6.0 msq roulette

[crystal arrow]

Not only would that kinda ruin everything before it, but the ffxiv devs being fans of wow oughta know that cata was... really not super popular.

[gaunt star]

they will just do things instanced as usual

totally ignoring the fact the towers exist regardless

Which make sense, given how the game's more story-based than WoW.

Towers only appear after 5.4, or whatever, right?

[stiff charm]

yeah

[gaunt star]

ah they do?

[regal lantern]

Towers are basically only visible after 5.4 and I’m pretty sure they’ll disappear after 6.0

[gaunt star]

obviously xd

Let me ask this FC whose atleast a third nowhere near ShB in terms of MSQ if they can see the towers...

what are the odds everyone forgets whose the WoL after 6.0?

[languid breach]

That would be a plot twist and a half

[crystal arrow]

No, they cannot see the towers.

[gaunt star]

they keep teasing the scions will be left behind after 6.0 so

[regal lantern]

I’m literally replaying ffxiv on two chars one in HW and one in ARR, there are no towers. Like the towers were made by Fandaniel after the events of Zenos, Zenos doesn’t even know us in 2.0-3.5

[gaunt star]

hes still waiting for his besto friendo

https://tenor.com/view/zenos-ureshiiiiii-gif-20599153

[regal lantern]

Likely Scions will disband. Y’shtola and Twins will stay along with G’raha

[gaunt star]

probably at Sharlayan i guess

[regal lantern]

No as trust

[gaunt star]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/588549521198546957/836992847869509682/ezgif-1-14ed0dab72f7.gif

[dim sigil]

I wouldn't mind some sort of excuse for us to have a new cast for 14-2

[regal lantern]

Y’shtola and twins are the 3 most popular characters in ffxiv with Y’shtola being the ffxiv mascot and twins serving as the shonen young prodigy characters who are incredibly famous in Asia. These three will never leave. G’raha joined us in 5.3 doing all that hassle showing how much he wanna be with WoL and do adventures, so he ain’t going either (he’s the only trust with AOE and all 3 roles)

[gaunt star]

ah idc about trusts, since they can totally use the time bubble thing for that content

[languid breach]

The core Scions isn't even like, an organization anymore, just a bunch of friends who keep being involved in world events

[regal lantern]

No that’s not what I meant, these characters will remain as close Part of us in msq and remain as trusts so they won’t be side characters

[gaunt star]

maybe

zenos new companion lets go

[regal lantern]

You only feel that way if you think of the main scion cast. Scions are much larger than the people who hangs with us in msq

[languid breach]

that's why I appended it to "core scions".

[regal lantern]

But Scions were there to defend Eorzea, if that purpose is gone, Scions will disband. Perhaps a new organisation will form.

[gaunt star]

or none

well theres the Grand Company of Eorzea

[regal lantern]

I wish but there’s no escaping Y’shtola and the Twins

[gaunt star]

tho more like an alliance than org, they could handle things fine, specially if primal summoning ceases

[livid oracle]

[gaunt star]

[regal lantern]

The twins will never grow old especially for the whole young prodigy chars being famous in Asia

[languid breach]

I still think it's extremely unlikely the core scions (Urianger, Thancred, Y'shtola, the twins and the WoL, maybe add Tataru) will disband. Maybe on an organization level, but they'll remain together as friends and world-savers

[gaunt star]

shtola will totally stay at sharlayan

she will totally want to look into travelling between shards

[languid breach]

Urianger may die, but that's mostly wishful thinking on my part

[gaunt star]

is it bad if i dont want any of the scions to die?

[regal lantern]

I will say, Thancred is very likely to retire after 6.0 and so is Urianger (to join his friend). Y’shtola will always be with us because she’s our game mascot she will never be gone

[languid breach]

nah I just got a massive hate boner for Urianger.

[regal lantern]

Does he make you feel dumb?

Or is it his exceptional lying skills that pisses you more?

[languid breach]

No, he tricked me twice and I'm incredibly petty and (out of character) have a large god complex.

[regal lantern]

Ahh

[gaunt star]

u kinda got to blame graha for the 2nd time

[languid breach]

I know I'm being entirely unreasonable and he deserves none of the hate. I also know that I'll hold a grudge against him until the heavens fall, until my last breath

[gaunt star]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/742643125981413447/843213021648257084/FINAL_FANTASY_XIV_Shtola.gif

[regal lantern]

In the current Scions I only liked Thancred during 5.0-5.3 but since 5.4 he’s lost his charm. The only scion I truly love is and always will be Minfilia

[gaunt star]

minfilia was underrated

[languid breach]

Minfilia was cute and I really love her genuinely NG charm, but making her a noncombatant kinda shafted her into the mission command role.

[gaunt star]

she was doing almost everything but that, she was fine tbh

she didnt need to be a combatant

[regal lantern]

I have a lot of controversial views on ffxiv that gets me a lot of hate but learning one of the biggest lore monger of the game shares my views, I no longer feel like a weirdo! So yeah, I love Minfilia, I think Hydaelyn/Venat (if, however flawed) is genuinely good and the game is no longer what it started out to be. 2.0 still felt like it was the game we started playing but with 5.0 things although are amazing, are not what I wanted from this game.

[stiff charm]

to find more hroth men to toy with of course

[gaunt star]

ayo ill kill runar myself

[regal lantern]

Runar to this day creeps me out

[gaunt star]

tbh as its been said in shb, Hydaelyn was summoned to keep zodiark in check but also let people live free, so i do think shes good, i dont think she tempered anyone whatsoever or that shes a 'parasite'

also people compare Z and H with the common primals and for several reasons this doesnt make sense

[regal lantern]

Runar gives me a strong “nice guy” vibe

[gaunt star]

Remember the start of Shb when people said Runar was abusive

runar needs to sit at his village and stay away from shtola or ill become the WoD in the literal sense

[stiff charm]

yes he seems like a genuinely good guy

[regal lantern]

You’re unfamiliar with the “nice guy” trope?

[gaunt star]

sounds like emerald isnt familar

[stiff charm]

i am familiar

i disagree that he is like that at all. hes just actually sweet

i think people dont like him because they are overly "protective" of y'shtola and feel some kind of entitlement to her, being the player and all. but thats just me

[regal lantern]

If you confuse nice guys and good guys then...

[stiff charm]

i dont.

[gaunt star]

Runar is clearly a manipulative sociopath who emotionally extorts yshtola and then proceeds to physically manhandle her in the msq

[languid breach]

That's a hot take if I've ever seen one

[crystal arrow]

I believe that’s sarcasm

[languid breach]

I don't really remember what he did tho, I really just couldn't care lmao

[gaunt star]

After she revived he swung her in his arms, which is the mistreatment of a disabled (blind) cat girl

[tropic frigate]

He seems to be potrayed as just a normal guy to me with nothing else to it

[languid breach]

Apologies. I'm not great at reading tone over internet, I rely tone tags

[gaunt star]

Never I assume what I say is serious I ain’t no Sherlock homes

[stiff charm]

he is clearly a commentary on systemic ableism within the nights blessed. emet was right

[languid breach]

I mean, if we want to point fingers at systemic ableism, Fanow built their entire city on top of various stairs and thin rope bridges

[stiff charm]

bunnies are just built different i guess

[cosmic herald]

I do not condone sarcasm

[iron scaffold]

That's real shit take on the only guy that achieve getting attention from Y'sthola

[cosmic herald]

Sorry but I ensure you that I will convince anyone that it's not joke and will turn against you

[bold condor]

So remember how we brought up the altitude of the new zone vs. Azys Lla?

[gaunt star]

[bold condor]

So the Dezul Qualan is notable for reaching 5000 yalms. This is, incidentally, the exact height of Seiryu's Wall in the Burn.

That's a little under 3 miles high, for the record. So airships don't get super high altitudes in lore.

[gaunt star]

so how we get there

[bold condor]

The troposphere, where you kind of begin to see the curve of the world, is 18666 2/3 yards high IRL.

So I'm guessing that the new zone is much, much higher up than Azys Lla. Though bear in mind fantasy writers don't really have good senses of scale in most cases.

But if it's analogous, then that zone is at least about three to four times the height that our highest known airships currently reach.

I'm going to guess Allag could make them go higher than that, since they had starships.

[sour perch]

which zone exactly

[gaunt star]

they didnt reveal the name

[sour perch]

OH right it was the sea of clouds looking area

[gaunt star]

yea

[kindred rampart]

I hope the Sage teacher is a call back to Tellah in some way with shades

[iron scaffold]

You Spoony Bard!!! - Tellah

[brisk quail]

Imagine dying to cast meteor

Weak. Cast ultima next time

[distant sonnet]

You know. New floating island zone is super high and has ancient ruins.
Amaurot dungeon also had super high flying islands.
Wonder if we got the fancy abridged version in dungeon so we could watch, and the islands are that high place wherein they summmoned Zods.

[dim sigil]

There was flyijg islands in amarout

[gaunt star]

uhh, where? Aside from outside of the planet.

[sour perch]

space

that is what they were talking about, doesn't make any sense for the beasts to destroy stuff in space if it weren't populated by the ancients

[indigo shale]

where we fight therion and the lead up to it?, because that just feels like a very specific set piece created by emet-selch to show the destruction of the star, rather than being anything that actually existed

[sour perch]

that is also valid
i want to believe the ancients had space stuff though

[indigo shale]

the islands feel to random and are very specifically built like arenas for them to have actually existed during ancient times

[dim sigil]

I mean we see they have stuff on the moon

[indigo shale]

and also very zodiark crystal-esque in design as compared to everything else ancient

[dim sigil]

They've been that far

[indigo shale]

well that stuff may be ascian built rather than ancient built

as the moon never existed before the sundering iirc

[sour perch]

zodiark was sealed in the moon apparently, but unsure if it was the moon existing beforehand or not

[stiff charm]

the moon probably was not a thing pre-sundering

[severe brook]

i felt those structures might have actually been manifestations of the Termination themselves, like they were the matter that turned into/broke apart into the meteors falling over time

also, there is something else interesting i noticed
so we saw that the Lunars' target was the Confluence of Aether in Carteneau, right?
which appeared as a mass of red-violet aether
well, what did it look like a small version of?

in which case, if that is what that big warped mass over the final stretch of the Amaurot dungeon actually was, then no wonder things got as twisted as they did

[indigo shale]

possibly, but either way they arent ancient in design

[severe brook]

yeah, they definitely look unhewn

of course, if they're manifestations from the Final Days, they technically are still Ancient in make if not design

[indigo shale]

yeah semantics and all that, as ancient is a blanket term, so more specifically they arent amouritian in architecture

[signal vault]

if 6.0 is the end of Ascian arc then 7.0 we will go to Midgardsorm land

[indigo shale]

we dont know if we even can even make it to the moon safely, nvm dragonstar, which we have no idea of where it is or how to locate it, + the planet is essentially completely dead due to omega so their would be nothing to go their for might as well just go back to the empty on the first pre eden for the same effect

[stiff charm]

dragonstar would be sick

[chilly bluff]

Middy is from a different planet, yeah. Astrologians can see where the Dragonstar is but we don't know how long it will take for us to get there. Omega barely made the trip.

[signal vault]

We just need G'raha tower magick

[indigo shale]

that wont change anything as hes not their, + hes not well integrated with the CT on the source/in this timeline, which wont be on dragonstar in the first place to allow him to summon us, and we dont how long it would take to get their anyway

[signal vault]

No way they just left it there

[indigo shale]

its a near impossibility of us finding a way their and we dont know if it the planet has an atmosphere than can support non dragons

[stiff charm]

just aetherial manipulation

[signal vault]

They gonna use for plot in the future. The power of the CT is vast. And now that G'raha got his youngerself back to learn even more

No way they just leave it untouch in 7.0 or 6.0

[indigo shale]

it took graha like 100 years or more to get to the power he was, and he still missed like 6 times

[signal vault]

Because he had less help

Remember how fast they created a way to go back with the help of Nu Mor

[indigo shale]

hes the only one that can control/access the CT, we cant help him one bit with that

[signal vault]

doesn't mean we can't help him study it.

[indigo shale]

and hes not one with the tower at this point

which is the main part

[signal vault]

He still has the memory from The first

Like no way it's not going to be used again

[indigo shale]

that means nothing when hes not directly drawing from the tower, which as we know is a process that slowly kills him depending on how much he draws from it, and such a feat going that far would be instant death

[signal vault]

The CT is a massive plot tool

[chilly bluff]

Yoshida did mention that the crystal tower can allow time travel forward and back. We just, you know, have to put one foot forward.

[indigo shale]

yeah but that was only possible due to the ironworks reverse engineering alexander and omega to create the tycoon

[chilly bluff]

Jokes aside, for him to invoke time travel directly like that means some crazy shit is potentially in store for the future but for now we got a whole planet to explore.

[indigo shale]

without the tycoon i dont think its possible, that was the whole purpose of it, to transport the CT across time and space to the first, in the hopes of averting the 8th umbral calamity of which is now destroyed by us

[signal vault]

If not the Dragon I have no idea what else could they explore.

[indigo shale]

we have 2 other continents on hydaelyn to explore

[signal vault]

Viking land or Koshu perhap

[chilly bluff]

Ilsabard, Corvos, Landis, Meracydia, the New World, other continents that we might not know about.

[indigo shale]

the new world and meracydia

[signal vault]

Are they ending Garlean arc too

Or just Asian arc

[indigo shale]

well the HvZ arc we dont know if it will be the end of the ascians completely

[stiff charm]

FORWARD AND BACK AND THEN FORWARD AND BACK A-

[stiff charm]

the garlean empire is gone dude

[indigo shale]

not quite yet, its till thier doing stuff

[signal vault]

Ah I forgot Juicy boy fucked it

[stiff charm]

no it literally has been gone since like, 5.4
its just mind slaves now. the entire empire is in shambles

[signal vault]

After 6.0 garlean is the new Ala Mhigo

Having refugees everywhere

[stiff charm]

the entire capital is gone. the rest of the empire is either dead or tempered or trying to escape

[indigo shale]

still a civil war going on, valens ( well not anymore) and gabranth still doing stuff, the empire still exists

[stiff charm]

the civil war ended as soon as the big tower went up. everyone involved is dead or tempered now

gabranth is separate from the empire, so are the other legions doing their own thing

[signal vault]

Btw how strong is fucking Midgarsorm at his peak ?

I just watched Pun helped sarah and 2 more for coil

[stiff charm]

strong enough to take down the most, or one of the most powerful garlean aircraft we have seen at least

but thats like, probably not even his peak

[signal vault]

Then I remember Bahamut being so fucking strong he needed 12 gods to chain him

[stiff charm]

the twelve arent real it was just aether

[indigo shale]

the empire still exists, we dont know if the civil war has ended, we dont know what other legions outside of gabranths are doing, be it for or against the empire

[signal vault]

And Louisoir invoked the everyone aether to superman punch him and still failed

[stiff charm]

big spell made stronger by calling on the idea of the twelve. mini primal summoning without the summoning

[signal vault]

So how strong is peak Midgarsorm consider he can travel from Dragonstar to the Source

[stiff charm]

bahamut was also incubating and being gorged on aether for like. several thousand years

primal bahamut is like if a lunar tower was just allowed to sit around doing its thing for 5k years or whatever

probably the strongest enemy we have faced so far
wait no, hades

[signal vault]

I dont want more primal shit after 6.0 dude

Im tired with the dumb beast tribe

[stiff charm]

a whole ass unsundered at full power is way scarier than even a big primal

[stiff charm]

ok, then integrate them into eorzean society

[signal vault]

We're seeing that

5.55 we have already found a cure and most of them are helping us

[stiff charm]

i would like to see primal summoning gone because it harms people

[indigo shale]

ah once the threat is dealt with and the uniting force gone, the grand company of eorzea will fall apart and the infighting will begin again

[signal vault]

No more primal. Haedalyn and Zodiark are primal. I think they just want primal things to gone in 6.0 or most of it

I like how fourlords, hades, titania, wol are summoned more

[stiff charm]

im still predicting venat turns into world tree using excess aether. ends primal summoning

[stiff charm]

hades is not a primal. titania isnt either.
neither were the four lords

[signal vault]

Like powerful being that aren't primal

[stiff charm]

wol was a primal though

[signal vault]

Exactly my point, I like powerful people that aren't primal

[stiff charm]

yeah

[signal vault]

WoL is more like he invoked aether of other dumb WoLs

[indigo shale]

They weren't dumb

[stiff charm]

that is. what primal summoning is. its just aether used to invoke an idea

"mankinds first hero, and his final hope", in this case

elidibus just pulled a shiva/thordan/gunnhildr

[signal vault]

Okay, but i still hate them

[indigo shale]

Why they do exactly what we do fight the enemy

[signal vault]

I want more stuff like fourlords

[stiff charm]

elidibus summoned them from other worlds and told them that we were the enemy. thats all

[signal vault]

Warring triad was also primal right ?

[stiff charm]

yes

[chilly bluff]

All three were, yeah.

[stiff charm]

thought you said four lords lol sorry

[signal vault]

Maybe primal is okay, but no more beast tribe primal bs omg

I do not like the snake beast tribe

[stiff charm]

well i would think not, they summon primals due to their conditions, not because they are beast tribes lol

[signal vault]

Altho lakshami music is good

[stiff charm]

we will likely get a tribe summoning in endwalker, and another in meracydia and another in new world and another in ilsabard etc etc

[signal vault]

Do something like the first and stop summoning the damn primal

I dont want another titan

Imma kick the shit out of kobold if they keep summoning the 5th titan to fight

[turbid aspen]

I feel like thatd make them summon more

[signal vault]

I will go to the end of the earth and rebuild the Garlic empire

[stiff charm]

they wont summon him unless they are tempered or threatened to the point of doing so. thats how.. people work

[signal vault]

Please no more titan

Or navithan or ifrit

I forgot tsukuyomi was also a primal

[stiff charm]

yeah another shiva situation

[signal vault]

You mean Louisoir situation

He did it first

[stiff charm]

hmm as far as we know yeah

[signal vault]

Man dying wish was to saved Eorzea and bame

He primal

I didn't remember exactly how Bahamut was also primal

[stiff charm]

the meracydian dragons were stuffed into dalamud and forced by an allagan mechanism to pray for him, kept alive barely on life support for thousands of years

so the bahamut we fought was not the real bahamut, but a primal

[signal vault]

No, the part when Bahamut enthralled Louisor

I forget how Bahamut enslaved Louisoir

[stiff charm]

tempering

[signal vault]

But didnt he fight bahamut by flying straight through

I need to watch that one again

[stiff charm]

why wouldnt he be able to be tempered lol

[signal vault]

No I dont remember how his ass survived Loiusoir punch

Then enslaved him later on

[stiff charm]

he just. survived it

[signal vault]

Oh. So primal bahamut was a creation of the broods caged in Dalamud. Then what about original Bahamut

[stiff charm]

was a kid of middy

!faq firstbrood

[lusty shadow]

The 7 children of Midgardsomr making the First Brood.

[signal vault]

I know that, but what happened to him to go from bahamut to primal bahamut

[stiff charm]

bahamut is long dead

[signal vault]

Ye, how did he die

[stiff charm]

allagans got him, i assume
pieces of original bahamuts corpse are in dalamud i think

[signal vault]

I forgot the detail how he died and how Ascian used Tiamat to get him up

[stiff charm]

get him up? no. bahamut is dead.

[signal vault]

Made him a primal

[stiff charm]

no, thats not how it works

[signal vault]

Like the part that Tiamat told us I forgot

[stiff charm]

primals are made of aether used to summon an idea, nothing else

[signal vault]

But something related Tiamat and Bahamut

I forgot that part

[stiff charm]

they are siblings

[signal vault]

I know, but Ascian used her

To do something related to Bahamut that she felt guilty

[stiff charm]

the allagan empire chained her up and forced her to pray to bahamut

[signal vault]

Ye, Tiamat got Bahamut Primal ass up and running

I had to find youtube video for that. Then the Ascian showed allagan how to feed him more prayers from the broods

[stiff charm]

yeah, the ascians (mostly hades) are responsible for both allag and garlemald

[signal vault]

Some how they didnt care about the far east

And be like, meh

[stiff charm]

the garlean empire kinda uh. ate othard for lunch though

[signal vault]

True, it took Alphinaud months to get to Kugane

Then came back so fast

[stiff charm]

yeah traveling is weird

[signal vault]

Feels weird

[stiff charm]

sb as a whole.. fucks with the timeline a little in not good ways

[signal vault]

Like I bet Garlic could travel to Ali Mhigo and wipe their ass long before Alphinaud could come back

But they didn't

So we're stuck here with dumb Lyse and Alame Mhigo

[indigo shale]

What's wrong with lyse and ala mhigo

[pulsar yacht]

not much other than lyse is shelved after 4.1 msq to reinforce the impression she exists to get the player to do all the shit the lazy npcs wont do in a million years

and that ala mhigo exists as a set piece (unless you were into the liberation theme)

[rough kestrel]

She appears at the table to remind us that she exists

And to look pretty, but that's about it

[somber storm]

Lyse and Hien

[rough kestrel]

To be fair to Lyse, Hien is not much better

Even though I think Doma had cooler moments

[pulsar yacht]

I think he's a little better only by virtue of the othard part of 4.x msq was better written so easier to get attached to the characters

[rough kestrel]

Ishikawa could probably make Lyse really cool, it wouldn't take much

[indigo shale]

Eh I guess because I like stormblood the most out of all expansions I don't see it the same was others, and on ishikawa just wait till zenos and fandaniel are given the very sad backstories to make players feel bad for them

We can't have villains be evil for the sake of being evil, always has to be a sad backstory accompanied with it

[rough kestrel]

I've always liked Zenos, he's very consistent in the way he operates.

And you can see the throughline in how he was raised, and how it lead to him being the type of person he is

I think the end of SB gave us reason to pity Zenos

[indigo shale]

Either way I'm not gonna keep my expectations up done that with enough games to never expect competence regardless of prior work

[tropic frigate]

I feel like zenos was meant to fight us in which even elidibus shows how we're just two strong beings ripping everything a new one

Like i dont like him but its really personal taste

[indigo shale]

i like zenos, in fact hes my favourite villain in the game, but i dont want him to be given the ascian treatment, just let him be this psychotic bastard that wants to fight us to the worlds end, doesnt need much more than that

[dawn basin]

:O

It's Lyon the beast master who fled the Dlariada back to Gabranth after Menenius died

(GAAAAAASP)

He must have gone back to Dalmasca so if we find Dalmasca we find him and if we find HIM

We find GABRANTH...

Oh yeah. It's all coming together

[cosmic herald]

anything but crit autos

[quasi jewel]

Okay, I've got a serious sore point about 5.55. Cause like.. what the hell am I, the warrior of bloody light, doing standing idly by while that poor man sits in a wooden wheelchair? Sod that, Lemme get in touch with Cid and make a Magitek flying wheelchair with rocket launchers and laser beams

[gaunt star]

[somber storm]

[tropic frigate]

Hes gonna pilot one of the weapons pog

Does it even need feet

[quasi jewel]

I think it has pedals 🙂

[half phoenix]

So... ignoring the obvious mount, anything else in 5.5 or 5.55 that had no known sources and still aren’t obtainable?

[spiral wagon]

cid is helping out in zadnor and stuff. probably doesnt know

[indigo shale]

Should have stole Aulus after clearing the ala mhigo dungeon, I wonder if the very underutilised power of punching someone's soul out of their body is part of it also

[rain onyx]

the "Resshi" glamour set

[balmy mesa]

[half phoenix]

Ah, well that’ll probably be going on the market tomorrow night

[rough kestrel]

@half phoenix ? What?

[carmine basin]

There's an upcoming maintenance on mogstation, and that usually means new stuff are coming

[rough kestrel]

I assumed it's going to be the moonfire faire glam

Or whatever you call it

[carmine basin]

Resshi is not moonfire faire reward btw, that's the polar bear mount. Confirmed it with the datamined quests on garland

Not on vendor either

[rough kestrel]

Ah then maybe so, damn I'm gonna have to buy it

I already planned a glam for it, so I have to get it

[somber storm]

the price we pay for fashion

[carmine basin]

That looks nicer than sam af haha

I'm just waiting for august sale to get alphy hair maybe

[rough kestrel]

I just realized

The entire glam is mogstation Except for the weapon

Fuga Hakama and Lord's Clogs

[distant sonnet]

Okay but you know what was a cool touch?

[rough kestrel]

Hm?

[distant sonnet]

When Arenvald is in his wheelchair, hes also back in his same shirt he started the game in. And I like that.

[rough kestrel]

And in the same sitting position

[distant sonnet]

Well, yeah. Thats just highlander sit. 😛

But still! Full circle.

[open verge]

What is their obsession with far eastern mogstation items

[rough kestrel]

Atleast this one is Japanese, I'm happy with that

[open verge]

Jesus Christ base mogstation items off a different area for one please

[distant sonnet]

So the mogstation items are generally made for the Korean and Chinese versions of the game.

We then get them afterwards as Mog station stuff.

They're made by an entirely different crew for an entirely different market but then they're like "Yeah sure take em."

[rough kestrel]

The korean stuff we got looked stupid as fuck

[open verge]

They still can make an outfit based on another area for Korea and China 😔

[rough kestrel]

This actually looks like it was made by the JP team

[distant sonnet]

Yes but the JP/EN crew isn't the ones making the items usually, so the Kr crew is making the same shit that sells in every other mmo over there instead. 😛

[open verge]

I’m so sick of having all these far eastern mogstation items like pls make it based on a different zone

[distant sonnet]

Exceptions are like.. the schoolgirl outfit, amusingly.

[rough kestrel]

I just want more FF character glams

[distant sonnet]

And Edda.

Yeah, me too. But not on the Mog Station because thats whack.

[open verge]

I just want moar ala mhigan clothes

[rough kestrel]

Why not a Seifer or a Rinoa, or a quistis glam, or [insert side character people remember in other FFs]

[open verge]

Ala mhigan gown and the tome gear isn’t enough

[rough kestrel]

Ala Mhigo was 2017, we're done with that trash, thankfully

[distant sonnet]

I wanted Seed dress uniforms in a bad way. But alas.

[rough kestrel]

The only glams I want even less than eastern glams that look like they're in a F2P game, are Ala Mhigan glams

[rough kestrel]

Yes, please

[distant sonnet]

And like, I dunno.

Ideal glamour. Give them to me.

[somber storm]

Waiting for the day we get FF7 glams

[rough kestrel]

I still can't believe we never got an FF7R collab with soldier glams

[distant sonnet]

Unfortunately.. capes kinda look like crap in this game, so vincents outfit would look like crap.

[rough kestrel]

I wouldn't mind the regular school uniform too

[distant sonnet]

I mean sure, those are fine. But the dress uniform is 🔥

[open verge]

Is oracle set out?

[somber storm]

We need to be hotdog man

[distant sonnet]

The only oracle set you need~

[somber storm]

[open verge]

I like the yellow one more

[distant sonnet]

I mean fair.

[distant sonnet]

I also crave this bottom outfit. For reasons.

[open verge]

Dancer af5

[rough kestrel]

I can already see 60 Catboys in Limsa wearing it

[distant sonnet]

Catboys? Oh Virtus. The catboy extinction project is already well underway.

[somber storm]

It's all rabbit now

[distant sonnet]

Bunnoys.

[somber storm]

Rabbit season

[gaunt star]

catboy extinct project when bunny bois will be less than catbois

[cosmic herald]

seeing that melee rdm rotation in paglth'an makes me superbolide myself

yeah i'm not posting that

[signal vault]

rabbit is horny

please cease thy horniness

[fallen girder]

[distant sonnet]

[balmy mesa]

honk horny jail

[gaunt star]

https://tenor.com/view/soken-fan-fest-lahee-otamatone-hum-gif-21581907

[drowsy belfry]

16/17

UNO MAS

[sour perch]

nice walmart employee manual

[gaunt star]

Another af4 gear enjoyer i see

[carmine basin]

What are you gonna do after this Hedge

We're in content draught period

[gaunt star]

There's other relics smile

This content drought is gonna hit me like a truck once im done progging tea and finished the relics

[carmine basin]

Good bye

[gaunt star]

Well i guess tier will unlock by then

[snow plaza]

Ayo

[versed hill]

first

[lyric crater]

SNIPED

[tired wind]

fourth

[snow plaza]

LOL

[versed hill]

madge

[sour perch]

[versed hill]

NOOO

[pulsar current]

we're back bby

[snow plaza]

first + didnt ask + ratiod + stay maad

[mystic sinew]

SPOILER TAGS ARE ENFORCED IN THIS CHANNEL

[lyric crater]

||ok thanks for the advice :)||

[gaunt star]

First

[snow plaza]

||Cant wait to walk all over zodidaddy uwu||

[mental spear]

I've got my wall of snacks, my PTO, my Mimosa ingredients, my entire FC that couldn't get time off. L e t ' s g o

[flint heron]

||(great enforcement so far) lol||

[prisma vine]

wheeze, i got my kid asleep and going to school at 7am, i got my coffee, my pto, my kitchen adjacent to my pc

[gaunt star]

Sounds great

[uneven agate]

Do I need to relog into the launcher for it to update the play button to be ready?

[gaunt star]

I'm not sure

[uneven agate]

im scared lol

[next quarry]

just press the meteor icon in the top

then press home, then you can play once servers are up

[sonic atlas]

ENDWALKER TIME BABY

[uneven agate]

why are people insisting there's only one new female viera hair on reddit lol. They clearly said and showed multiple

[wind onyx]

DRK mains

[lunar oar]

DRK mains :

[strange wing]

Warrior mains

[wind onyx]

= buffs they didn't need lol

[strange wing]

I still have no idea if I should play PLD or WAR first.

[lunar oar]

Not even a question, pld wins

[short edge]

Cuz Reddit

[wind onyx]

PLD for lore, WAR for speeding

[strange wing]

Confetti 4 vs Cooler plunge

[lunar oar]

Going to play PLD first and i was SAM in shb

[peak locust]

reaper life <

[strange wing]

My classes are gonna be PLD, SMN/SCH, SAM, and MCH

[wind onyx]

DPS levelers gonna be waiting to clear MSQ for 20 years

[strange wing]

I'm sure there is a theme there if I try hard enough

[peak locust]

i have a tank slave ready to help me thru dps queue.

[wind onyx]

hope you guys like the golden saucer

[lunar oar]

i dont think so

[shell sand]

Oh yeah. That’s the life I’m choosing

[peak locust]

my name is rwby' rose, i have to play reaper.

[mental spear]

Queues are generally really pleasant for DPS when you do the immediate rush - all the sage and reaper spammers won't be an issue until later today. SHB I had insta-queues on almost everything as DRG

[strange wing]

I wonder what I should use Challenge log + book XP for a tank job or DPS job

[peak locust]

also 71-80 ill just be in bojza so meh.

[graceful vigil]

first thing i thought of when i saw reaper was can't wait for rwby rose glamor

[wind onyx]

in that case what DPS do you want to clear fastest?

[lunar oar]

ew Bozja

[peak locust]

i have this until i find something more specific to ruby. https://gyazo.com/fa59c905ce84ef3f1cd8f0a1e013fd1c

[wind onyx]

Summoners looking pretty hot for leveling as a DPS as per usual

[strange wing]

Yeaaa

[graceful vigil]

looks good but hopeing for a better one 🙂

[shell sand]

Yes, but its the fastest :(

[wind onyx]

wonder how much love BRD is going to have now

[lunar oar]

Worst content ever, hope they won't do a similiar thing in EW

[peak locust]

they did in SB, they did in ShadowB they will in EW probably.

[lunar oar]

Eureka was great.

[peak locust]

eureka was okay, i didn't mind it.

[graceful vigil]

barley have touched eurka cause i don't like it bozja though im like 23 only did it for relic

[desert basin]

Please let Zodiark be hot daddy, Please let Zodiark be hot daddy, Please let Zodiark be hot daddy

[soft glacier]

Bozja is my favorite for reals

[mental spear]

As someone who got the Emblazoned title I honestly didn't mind it. Had loads of fun with friends in both Eureka and Bozja, though Bozja felt like they had the fangs removed from it

[uneven agate]

4 minutes....

[lunar oar]

Do it, Bozja is the most annoying thing ever

[uneven condor]

Bozja felt like a refined eureka

[desert basin]

Bozja story is really cool though, its annoying only because its a good farming zone

[graceful vigil]

i plan to evenly just always go ill start "tomorrow" prob is tomorrow never comes for me

[lunar oar]

It was a step back to me not forward, Eureka had more depth, although some parts were frustrating

[thin granite]

I am so excited, my heart is thumping

[mental spear]

I'm hoping the Island Sanctuary is like Harvest Moon combined with all of my minions and the Ishgard Restoration. I hate myself, please square enix

[strange wing]

Oh that reminds me. I never beat Dal. That better not bite me in the ass.

[thin granite]

the final days are upon us

[spiral wagon]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[uneven agate]

MY LAUNCHER FROZE NOOOOOO

[spiral wagon]

IT DIED
GOTTA RESTARTT

[signal cliff]

managed to get to the title screen and it crashed

[mental spear]

Lobby Server killed me twice at menu plz stop Yoshi plz

[uneven agate]

I Restarted it and it still wont load anything fuuuuuck

[next quarry]

ezpz

[uneven agate]

nononono my launcher. it wont load

[meager pulsar]

EY S A M E

[mild parrot]

rip launcher

[signal cliff]

launcher died 😄

[uneven agate]

now its stuck at "checking final fantasy" im gonna cry

[next quarry]

network error in queue

[sick island]

Lmaooo fuck launcher is frozen

[mild parrot]

ooh i got to login

just hold on it'll get there

[main umbra]

got say auto login was kinda op here

[frank pier]

95 in queue

[heady terrace]

Im at 1027, popular servers sigh..

[frank pier]

in boiz

[thin granite]

i'm so excited i can't even type my password ruight

[signal cliff]

launcher juste crashed on me

[mental spear]

Another menu error. Let me innnn, LET ME INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

[thin granite]

Every Step we take

[uneven agate]

its still stuck checking final fantasy...do I leave it and wait or reload??

[sonic atlas]

MY ASS IS READY

[cold jungle]

#JustSMNThings

[thin granite]

oh, oh lord the screen

[graceful vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-tears-emotional-tantrum-cony-gif-13009332

[near plinth]

its at 186 now

[neon vector]

MY LAUNCHER IS FROZEN NO

[keen hazel]

lets gooooo

[reef thicket]

Has anyone used an illusion filter before the update ? Mine is gone ...

[sick island]

Finally launcher didn't fucking crash, now time to start queuing hell

[main umbra]

MAY WE HAVE A FAT F for the catboy population.

[graceful vigil]

im in launcher hell.. game crashed twice first 5006 error then a 2002

can't even connect to lobby

[uneven agate]

finally. im at 2,063 queue. this is gonna take a while huh

[heady terrace]

U guys think the servers are burning right now?

[neon vector]

i have to abandon my cat boy for now to make and play as a new bunny boy.. pls forgive me, my dear A'vixa Tia

[uneven agate]

all of their physical servers are gonna explode lol

[sick island]

The servers are wishing for death and mercy from the twelve rn

[dense isle]

oO ????

[main umbra]

if it was english i could help F

[uneven agate]

i have to log in at gridania. i made a terrible mistake,

[heady terrace]

I cant speak German

[reef thicket]

Lance en admin ?

[keen hazel]

ill ask my fiance he speaks french

[dense isle]

i can speak english don't worry ^^

[plain sierra]

Someone get me that title screen as a wallpaper, STAT

[cyan pawn]

still at launcher T-T

[reef thicket]

So, anyone ? I used my illution filter before the update and now it is gone 😦

[north silo]

Wtf it didn’t let me fantasia even tho I popped it before maintenance started

[dense isle]

but i can't login to game =/

[signal cliff]

got passed the launcher and to the title screen againn !

[reef thicket]

Same !

[keen hazel]

i had to go in and out of data center connection a few times for character info to load

[signal cliff]

and the lobby failed 😄

[neon vector]

same lmao

[mental spear]

Currently at lobby error 8. aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[north silo]

Oh yeah it’s just loaded and said I can edit but it’s still making me queue

[reef thicket]

We will get another one, I guess ?

[frank pier]

works okay on ps

[plain sierra]

GUYS, I'm Mew.

[keen hazel]

you still have the fantasia dw, it just cant access it when its under heavy load / character info unavailable

[sick island]

Time to start over from square one, launcher crashed right as button turned green

[keen hazel]

at what cost

[reef thicket]

Oh, so I just have to connect and disconnect ? Or just wait ?

[lean ore]

wait

[keen hazel]

ive been hitting the little x in the bottom and changing data centers and then going back

[reef thicket]

While being in game, or in the lobby ?

[quartz arrow]

Holy butts ya'll

[keen hazel]

your launcher hasnt updated

[lean ore]

you can fanta only from lobby soo lobby i guess

[sand breach]

my char model didnt even load LOL

[keen hazel]

!faq patchfix

[lusty shadow]

Endwalker Patch Fix

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/r7moey/unable_to_perform_version_check_fix/

[uneven agate]

from 2000 to 1600 in 3 minutes.

[rare sinew]

FUCK. ETA 2 HOURS DL

[lean ore]

if u disconnect now u may not be able to log in xd

[stiff pond]

When will the store come on

[quartz arrow]

Idk

[uneven agate]

I wonder if Yoshi is excited but also horrified

[reef thicket]

It worked ! Thank you so much !

[sand breach]

10 minutes and 800 up in queue

[stiff nymph]

Wasn't the download live beforehand?

[sand breach]

way better than i expected LOL

[north silo]

So like does it make you queue to edit cause my char data is loaded and it says I can edit but it’s still making me queue

[uneven agate]

im so glad i dont need to fantasia tonight

[keen hazel]

right click and hit edit character

[keen hazel]

queue isnt necessary for editing

[signal cliff]

Ragnarok btw

[graceful vigil]

so how to get into lobby cant do it

[keen hazel]

gilgamesh moment

[signal cliff]

just try until it works. Took me three tries

[graceful vigil]

im on like my 5th so unlucky right now

[keen hazel]

nvm 2002

[quasi ether]

Log In Savege

[rustic halo]

I'M IN

where do i exchange my allegories and relvelations?

[foggy coyote]

Is anyone else getting error 2002

[north silo]

My bunny boy looks like such a bottom.l.l

[slender siren]

Poor guy

[gaunt star]

I am

Login queue full from what I understand

[still sparrow]

boooo

[thin granite]

I WILL LOG IN TONIGHT, NO MATTER HOW LONG IT TAKES

[still sparrow]

ditto

[limber scaffold]

How is Bard in EW now ?

[civic axle]

ROFL

[dense isle]

still can't login and reddit solution doesn't work

[thin granite]

They overhauled the servers for this very moment, LETS PUT EM THROUGH THEIR PACES

[cold jungle]

dear lord my MIN hotbars were gutted

[lilac breach]

have you tried MAX hotbars

[cold jungle]

thanks that fixed it

[lilac breach]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-falcon-anime-yo-salute-whats-up-gif-6103455

[vapid bloom]

[paper turret]

what's the "reddit solution"?

[thin granite]

There's the Stubborn solution for us cool kids;

Just keep on gettin' into queue, no matter how long it takes.

[keen hazel]

les gooo

[signal cliff]

aaaaaaaand it crashed

[keen hazel]

launcher update issue or launcher lag issue?

[sage robin]

I don't mind the 2k+ queue, but it'd be nice if it didn't crash half-way through.

[mental night]

https://i.imgur.com/lYvJRiC.png

[gleaming bough]

man keep getting 2002

[gaunt star]

is dc travel 6.1+ or is it just not in the world travel menu

[mental night]

2002 error means too many people getting on at the same time

moment of silence for the people who thought they were going to use their Fantasias tonight lmao

[gleaming bough]

man such a hyped launch

[gaunt star]

Wish me luck, lads

[gleaming bough]

i don even have this issue in SHB

[quartz arrow]

I keep getting 2002
I'm getting so sad

[limber scaffold]

Do we know what they do with Precision stat and the HQ gather skills

[azure condor]

the tidal waves of WoW Refugees flooding into essentially their first expansion, may be a tiny bit of a contributing factor 😛

[uneven agate]

So...loooks like default there's only 1 new hair style, and 2b hair with the cosmetic item

[uneven agate]

is the lightning hair only through real cash then? 😦

[mental night]

2002 just means too many people getting on right now. expect to play later in the day cause queues for all servers are like 2000+

[vivid wave]

I will cry

[azure condor]

yup, that's a common screen right now

[compact dagger]

How do I beat Launcher (Ultimate)

[limber scaffold]

can u guys chill too ?

[quartz arrow]

I'm crying rn help me

[still sparrow]

yep... me too

[limber scaffold]

try to cry quiet

[wind onyx]

and that's why I'm watching streams instead of playing

[lilac breach]

It saved my queue spot after logging back in from that 2002 in queue

[livid oracle]

that censor login bar tho

[quartz arrow]

Lol

[lilac breach]

👀

[sick island]

And so it begins: Queue Ultimate

[uneven agate]

where the fuck are the rest of the viera hairs

[still sparrow]

its still crashing for me

im going to check back in a hour or so

[azure condor]

in an hour, the MSQ would be done, all levels maxed, and then there's no point anymore

[still sparrow]

?

[azure condor]

I joke

[still sparrow]

its a FF game EW is like 60+ hours lol

[cloud roost]

they now increase your chance to get a buff that gives you more yield

[lilac breach]

Yea shadowbringers took me like 4 days of nolifing

but I also actually enjoy the story

[mental night]

I am only 500 in queue now HAHA like an invite to Eulmore

[still sparrow]

me too 🙂 hope the same for EW

[azure condor]

Yes I know, I was joking

[thin granite]

STAY DETERMINED

[limber scaffold]

well so prices from normal mats, will increase i guess?

[cloud roost]

who knows

[azure condor]

not that bad, only 3481 players in queue......

EYE TWITCH

[barren pewter]

no new BLU mage spells in the patch notes? boo...

[uneven agate]

so theres only one new default hair. the rest you have to purchase from golden saucer or mogstore....

[sturdy estuary]

why is my g'raha floating

[acoustic zinc]

usualy Blu is on odd numbered patches. so 6.1 is probably to be expected

[neon wing]

how do I target tataru

she is hidden somewhere in that pile

[thin granite]

Hit X!

that will make all playernames vanish and leave only NPCs

[neon wing]

oh thanks

[thin granite]

Gotchu homie! Also, you can hold ctrl when on the map and it will make aetherytes pop up on top

[livid oracle]

why aren't you floating?

[lusty hazel]

sorry I crashed the servers with my big censored

[vital merlin]

How's lag

[lusty hazel]

has anyone managed to get in? are the servers slowing down on the congestion?

[uneven agate]

yeah im playing

altho im disappointed because of the viera hair bullshit

[cold jungle]

just did Titan Ex unsynced 80, they DEFINITELY overbuffed us

[rain onyx]

:0?

[cold jungle]

every ability was basically oneshotting his phases

[rain onyx]

I should go in as BLU and see how high I hit

With final sting

I think I did around 500-750k depending on crit

[wind onyx]

Different VA for Hydy

[cold jungle]

also dear god SMN bahamut burst is insane, double akh morn with deathflare just destroys everything

[chrome bay]

after an hour of solid 2002 im finally in queue....

[azure condor]

hehe assuming once you get in, you don't get hit with a crash, forcing you out 😛

[gaunt star]

Man...there's only 1 new GS item?

[cold jungle]

also the health is around the same as it was before in those old instances, it put me at 115k health, which is what about i had yesterday

28k outside

[tame mortar]

Does anyone know how many of the new hairstyles viera get? I don't wanna risk logging out to fantasia if we only get the ones shown at LL

[silk summit]

oof, this part is pain

[north silo]

Not a fan of any of the male viera hairs

[tame mortar]

I meant the female viera

[exotic thistle]

LOGIN EXTREEEEEEEEEMMMEEE

[azure condor]

forgot, there's gonna be an invasion of bunny boys....

[north silo]

Exactly fuck male cats

[fluid basalt]

gladly

[gaunt star]

When and where?

[keen panther]

Trying to but the game won’t let me

[pallid girder]

online store back up!

[tulip shell]

yeah

[rich wave]

LMAO

[pallid girder]

Job Boosts are now up to lv 80, still 25 USD

[graceful vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-patiently-beetlejuice-numbers-now-serving-gif-14805864

[rich wave]

Everything’s breaking

[exotic thistle]

In all honesty, I'm not surprised the most profitable Final Fantasy of all time with que times to log in on a regular day is this difficult to login to during a new expansion

[rich wave]

I’m so surprised people end up taking off for this. When their PTO is spent logging in. Every and I mean EVERY expansion launch has been like this

[cold jungle]

the difference between heroic echo and normal echo is funny

[fluid basalt]

not surprised doesn't mean not frustrated sigh

[exotic thistle]

Login extreme is normal?

[azure condor]

oooh I hope that buff happens in Eureka and Bozja

[exotic thistle]

I thought it was raubhan extreme and pippin savage

[rich wave]

Yes. It’s always like this lol

That’s why there’s instanced areas

[exotic thistle]

ok. I'll just watch the trailer again before I crash the game

[rich wave]

You better get comfy. Watch some anime while ur in queue or take your butt to bed. Atleast it’ll be better waiting around if you’re not sleepy

Un ironically and not exaggerating rn. It’s most likely gonna be like this for the next 2 weeks

[exotic thistle]

WOOOT

LOGIN EXTREEEEMME

Guys I always wanted to form a static. Want to help me prog through this?

[foggy coyote]

I've waited at least 40 mins to log in, got to 600 out of 5000 in queue, and then I get the error message

[rich wave]

You in? Oh lol

[exotic thistle]

Nope

[lusty hazel]

Getting a feeling we are getting a launch thats not quite a Stormblood but somewhere between Stormblood and Shadowbringers.

[rich wave]

Go sleep y’all. Not even trying to put anyone down.

[azure condor]

ouchies, sorry to hear it. Sadly its gonna be like that for a bit.

[lusty hazel]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/ee1a8b4d6efc18a16e151d7c2effc1c7cd957696

[foggy coyote]

sigh

[exotic thistle]

2002 was 19 years ago. Now I'm starting at it while reloading the client.

and I use a one time password 😛

[lusty hazel]

Interesting it would appear they are already onto the congestion issues. That was fast.

[rich wave]

Oh god it’s already happening

[exotic thistle]

I want to call this launch day endwaiter

[iron birch]

Some can even say it was expected

[rich wave]

They didn’t do log in maintenance until a while during storm blood launch. Idet it was the same day

Ah well I’m gonna turn over and go to sleep now

My only advice to everyone is if you get in immediately go to a random instance number that’s lowest populated and stay the FUCK away from the hub cities.

[lusty hazel]

You know, with the chip shortages, I just don't think there was anything else that they could do other than alternatives. I don't blame them at all. They never foresaw a shortage, or this high player population. It will pass. I know they are fighting with everything they have to get more datacenters and worlds in the game. Hopefully that will happen soon.

[exotic thistle]

wait.... what about mor dona?

[rich wave]

And to prevent yourself from being auto logged out and if you need to afk, just open up the HUD editing menu

[rich wave]

That might be ok.

[lusty hazel]

NOBODY knows if that still works. They mentioned that they upgraded the auto log out. Also its not very nice while the servers are having issues. Log out so other people can.

[thin granite]

https://twitter.com/fittingxivsongs/status/1466706979792080903?s=20

images with fitting ffxiv music (@fittingxivsongs)

https://t.co/8WrolH9PuA

▶ Play video

Twitter · Dec 3, 2021, 9:52 AM

[sand breach]

graha is uh in a tree

[lusty hazel]

oh

[rich wave]

Yea I’m not sure either but I thought I’d throw it out there. If you have to step away for a second it’s it an issue. But to afk for 5 hours then I mean lol

[thin granite]

his canon hobby!

[exotic thistle]

I would find it funny if when it large cities, they log you out due to "inactivity" Like bro if anything I'm too active 😛

[real badger]

Finally

[lusty hazel]

Just log out and dont be rude to other people trying to play. If we all take turns we all get in better.

[gloomy gull]

loving the new expansion

error 2002

[cold jungle]

just tried to solo zurvan EX as level 80 SMN, almost did it on first try, going to be a piece of piss with either a bit of practice or level 90

[exotic thistle]

ready for data center savage?

[lusty hazel]

Final Fantasy: Error 2002 a space whale odyssey

[exotic thistle]

wait... 2002 is perfect now

[magic forge]

is it me or the monsters have become squishier and.. deadlier?

[exotic thistle]

I feel kind of bad for square at this moment. Still endwalker is giving me a blast already

[neon wing]

lmao

[golden palm]

EdgeBee

[exotic thistle]

damn. that's enough to make a lallafel feel small...-er

[potent vessel]

anyone having this issue? able to log website, but not game

[graceful vigil]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/ee1a8b4d6efc18a16e151d7c2effc1c7cd957696