#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
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My feeling is that they're trying to encourage alphinaud and alisaie
Lunar primals mute af
If they truly know what's going to happen and are being very secretive about it
So relic weapon drops are they just random which you get from raids?
If it's unique, it's usually a reward or mogstation
nice
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so does anyone know where to get cruise chaser yet
newp
i s2g if it's the seasonal reward for the feast
Someone buy my hair on light kthx 
does anyone know where the new armor shop is ?
I'm hoping it is honestly XD
last relic step easy? haven't checked the patch out yet
then I hope those 100 wintraders will be happy with it
Easy Yes, just long
Easier than previous final steps
No light gathering this time?
Nope
oh the pin right haha
Dude WARMECH is in Bozja
That's not long at all. That's like 5 hours tops
Alright, just finished the Dalriada...
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/846382563818733569/846862393841680404/unknown.png maybe if a mod can pin this for reasons
the 5.55 solo instance was the best one they've done imo that was really good
Ikr, I was giddy
I hope they use the figures in EW
They can even use it for big map and show the scions in different areas
that transition was so fucking cool
Just change wols pose to weapon pose though
I think playing as alisiase was the best out of the selection
SQenx please
that new rdm move has gotta be an upgraded moulinet
its so sick
I APPLAUDED IT FOR BEING DIFFERENT
an ogcd to compliment moulinet perhaps
Nah just alisaies exclusive aoe attack
slash-spin-slash-spin-slash-spin 
Estinien went fucking crazy in 5.55 instance tho
i mean in endwalker. rdm aoe is kinda boring the way it is, id appreciate that move a lot
I'd actually like Alisaie's AoE melee as an upgrade for us
"Oh no ifrit summoned 10 infernal nails"
Estinien: HOW ABOUT 10 CLONES AND 10 STARDIVERS COMBOED INTO A DARKDRAGON DIVE
He definitely moved up to Sss tier
Estinien: we got a primal problem? MORE STARDIVER
it would be nice but i prefer my idea of it being an ogcd that you do with moulinet
makes it more active and turns rdm into discount machinist during aoe
Nah have them imbue the sword with water and attack 
Estinien: BY THE POWER OF NIDHOGG IN ME, I STARDIVER U TO DEATH
no thats pld
I mean either way RDM could do with a BIT MORE AoE, maybe a Verwater as an AoE finisher
Really glad I wasn't a DRG just then because I'd be looking for a longer lance to overcompensate.
verflood 
it can
trust me, mystic knight pld for endwalker soonā¢ļø
Just ask square to give us more stardivers
Ngl I thought Alisaie have to build gauge too so I didn't use the melee combo until later. I should've read tooltip or try pressing the button 
XD
...does Save the Queen have multiple endings
no, different routes to same ending (according to yoshi p. im only rank 20 so idk)
Stardiver can now be used 3 times in life of the dragon
Dragonfire Dive becomes DarkDragon Dive
TBH Alisaie kinda fuckin stronk, she can just pull out a Verflare whenever she want
A'ight good, the somberness was putting me in "did I get the bad route," -- right, he did confirm that
We can't even do that
U know
Its kinda funny how when u control alisaie, graha was a PLD
But when u control graha he was a BLM
maybe we should just let alisaie take out zenos for us
These hoes the scions have aoe attacks. SO WHY DON'T YALL AOE AS TRUSTS
"wol is so cool i want to be like them" has better moves than us 
Ya hoes >:/
does anyone know a link where I can see all the new relic models?
I was too focused on DPSing to notice what skills they use 
wow i cant believe they made roleplaying cool
It's on pinned
didnt think theyd manage
oh thank you
Trusts: spam single target
Instance: BY THE TWELVE, BY THE WORLD, BY HYDAELYN ITSELF, I SMITE THEE AND YOUR ARMIES
"....I beg your pardon?" Was hilarious
remembering stormblood roleplaying with like 2 skills. 3 on a good day
Player character limits. Please understand
I'd also love that little WoL statue
Literally the meeting
Sahagin: SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Everyone: wat
Sahagin: o rite thats our war cry sorry about that
Same hedge
Merlwyb wasnt surprised 
pepega notes
It was cool to see G'raha switch jobs/main weapon when they're about to cure the tempered tho. I want healing skills as caster too 
graha tia the white/black mage
graha flexing every role
"I've heard this like thousands of times I've grown to find it endearing"
just got through 5.55 myself...
its still so surreal seeing him fighting with the scions i think im still not over 5.3
I never notice if his stance is still BLM if he's healer as trust or it's the same as BLM
The white black paladin
this is what it feels like now
Music: Clock Town, First Day
Composer: Koji Kondo
Playlist: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=C675B851A38C9C2F
Platform: Nintendo 64
MOOOOOOON
Aymric's I beg your Pardon with your grace's eyes were widened with shock sent me into orbit
Play rdm then 
Oh god, the end of StQ stinger
Oh did you do the dungeon Glass?
I do like that moment where Merwylb was like "u know blowing it the fuck up works"
The sahagin got salty
And the gobbo was like "chill its just an idea she would have done it ages ago"
i should go start playing the Day 1 theme on BRD
But I want regen!!!
i actually laughed so hard when they just showed the moon. like in my head i was just yelling "holy shit is that an endwalker reference???"
Its weord and random like in world for everyoneto suddenly stare up at the moon but was a cool scene
Go to bozja then
||the disease that took Basch, was hereditary?||
me looking at my shadow and being like holy shit is that a final fantasy fourteen shadowbringers reference
and a more minor note but confirmation this twink is Sicinius
I thought the moon scene is a bit weird since they're all in the middle of like recovering after the battle, surely someone else would need help and they don't have time to stare? 
bozja fun
moon tempering 
(bc ofc StQ ends with a Meanwhile in Valnain)
Hey the moon was the brightest thing they saw and they've been looking at lunar primals and dark colored enemies for so long 
Iām just waiting for the bozja cutscenes to be put on YouTube
Looks like younger aulus
||Grand Company of Eorzea!||
"Your motherfucking life ends in 6 months motherfucker"
- Warrior of Light looking at the Moon
meanwhile back at the ranch
Anyone know what Raids drop Compact Springs/Beyond the Rift/Lurid Memories?
Too bad I'm at work atm
im gonna watch the ethys playthrough when its up even though im doing it myself rn 
Also also, since Gabranth is in fact not dealt with, I get the inkling it's setting up Dalmasca for 7.0
I can dream
trial series please look forward to it
It was also a bit jarring that the beast tribes took time to tell the Scions "hey we didn't wholly win but you guys did great" like I think they would care more about taking care of their brethren first before thanking others. And the way everyone stop to stare... It's just a bit odd timing to have that scene
U know what would have been great
"WoL what should we name this new alliance of ours"
"The Crystal Braves!"
Alphinaud: >has an aneurysm and a stroke and a panic attack and fucking dies on the spot
Nah. 6.0 trial series
Maybe, I'm just also in the Four Fiends camp for that
It wasnt even given explanation teh Fran part - and they briefly mention her again 1 patch ago - so its not like they forgot. We dont know who she is protecting or what exactly is up there
Also can we just appreciate that the devs are sneakily trying to see how far they can push skybox bullshit in Zadnor for 6.0
Four Archfiends for either MSQ or Trial Series
I'm so glad for Alphinaud tho he went a long way
I almost cried with him when I picked the name (I forgot the significance of it)
Casually having airships bomb you seems like something that'll happen
Fckn 4th legion continually bombing us
random terminus beasts dropping from the moon. please look forward to it
A part of me is almost still predicting Cagnazzo!Fourchenault as part of the IV homepage
I don't think you even have to be in a fate to have bombing because I've seen that just randomly happen
Wait you donāt deal with Gabranth???
yeah its random out in the world
Yea itās random outside fates
I don't think that will be the case at all honestly blitz XD
Here's the thing
If the four archfiends are the trials
Scarmiligone or whatever the fuck his name is gonna be a Dungeon boss
I'm having issue with Venat casually popping up like the biggest lightbulb in the area and the Wol being the only person to see her. Is this some tempering stuff going on.
But your anima theory could hold weight
Hope Forchenault and Ameliance lets me adopt the twins
probably hydae magic bullshit
Gabranth is never in Bozja, heās been in Dalmasca the whole time
god trying to get into dalriada is gonna be the death of me
Mikopog
You make it sound wierd like this isn't normal for Ascians to do that.
well, they cant exactly stop you
Not necessarily, they only make 3 trials because .3 is always an MSQ Trial. Cept now the story ends in 6.0 so there's no reason we can't have an actual 4 Trial raid series
It wasn't that bright and everyone didn't look behind, I find it believeable personally
We're tempered towards the moon.
I guess Matsuno will announce next ffxiv collab at a later opportunity - history is totally on the open still
Four lords had the disadvantage to having to give the .3 trial to msq while EW doesn't have that restriction
from Cid's Field Records, nothin' really new, but
There's not exactly proof that you're not tempered though
what do you mean he survived the initial blast
No I mean, ancients being invisible to everyone without the Echo is normal
hes just built different
we arent tempered tf
bro my man should've been atoms
Middy did this all the time during HW tbh
The Citadel was glassed and Midas died after to his injuries tf
How does one spawn Does one Dalriada?
It's an echo thing.
Canon WoL quotes
Okay Fran's notes is a fucking doozy how do I begin on this one
So the Ashe situation, completely solved, in her fuckin' notes, because of course it is
???
Datalogs bro!
OmG iS mIkOtO HyThLoDaEuS
Never question matsuno. He'll fck u up with datalogs
No Hedge, it's Forchenault
ShE uSeS tHe ShUsH eMoTe
Is it easy Dalriada?
oh can't spoiler block that code text,
Aya you fucking genius
Hard like CLL ??
also yes it's a bloody novel bc of course it is
CLL
Hard
pick one 
Hah that's funny
You can use ||> text here I think??
||tl;dr it's the actual princess she was put in stasis for 30 years and Rasler made Fran and her company stage her death||
I s2g Matsuno
Ashe is alive then?
That's.... 
TOLD YOU they were gonna bring up some silly thing and make Ashe alive.
I know, but that's just, so 
Mnk is probably not that good for duels, but I like the job. This was my 3rd attempt blind, managed to figure out everything on the 1st attempt somehow. Clean run, didn't really make any mistakes but I think the enrage was coming up so these guys probably have a real tough dps check unless you got a good build.
Also audio is muted cos i had som...
The most hard thing of cll is the people debuff
Does getting the new armour seem like much of a grind? What do we have to do for it?
Im assuming run the new dungeon
I think theres one? I saw platinum coins letting you buy the early to rise hairstyle
help
....Okay the final notes is Noah's and these, make no sense.
Use reflect next time
4th make belias is a bag of dicks
Yeah my instance wiped to him too
Like listen, I'm the one who pours over these essays and adores whatever weird detail Matsuno can squeeze in
the Zadnor ones are giving me a headache.
It trivialize everything but divebombs
Soo is spawning Dalriada same as cll
Has anyone found out how to get the Deinonychus yet?
Yes
Iām sending Bozja: electric boogaloo in 6.0
How have so many cleared it already then
https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Category:Field_Record
here, the new notes are in the pages on the bottom, but the quickhand version hasn't been updated yet.
im surprised I saw so many cerberus mounts
Lyon's second note and Noah's are, just.... what
What do you mean
I thought no one would bother with delubrum savage
also notes aren't unqiue to duels right?
I know some at least drop in random ass critical engagements
Shouldn't be, yeah. Lyon's 2nd note probably also drops from one of the beasts in the Dalriada
There'll be more DR savage now that you can skill up better
So as usual, with people not killing mechs, critical aren't spawning, so which raids drop the critical event tokens?
A/O/E8-12?
Just tell them to kill magitek mobs then 
Okay, if y'all thought the Ashe bit in Fran's notes were a doozy,
||Lyon II and Noah's both say Lyon assassinate/d Noah 6 months after the events at Zadnor conclude/d??||
tbh I kinda forget all about ashe in ff14
wasn't in southern front it was all fran is hiding her or something
the fuck
???
WHAT
Ashe is alive, bois. She be sittin that Eorzean table soon
how many relic drops does a dalriada give?
Idk man, I have the inkling these notes won't hold up in a year or two
they're hella wild reads now, though
do you have all the notes in game or are you reading them from somewhere cuz it seems really weird if the notes would be a complete mess like your saying
"/sh lfm cluster farm"
The final quest rewards a handful, I don't have Lyon's 2nd note though, but it does corroborate Noah's notes ||about Lyon assassinating him in the dead of night like ???||
You spawn CEs by farming Clusters
I'm aware
That wasn't what I was asking though. I was asking WHICH RAIDS drop the critical event tokens
make group > people kill robots > ce's spawn
Mind you, these are notes "set" "6 months" after what happens at Zadnor, 
Welp, if you need CEs and you're waiting and have nothing to do, and you don't have the new lost actions, cluster farming
the hell why
.....sounds like a lot of fckerry happens at the end of zadnor?
Can you answer the question???
I answered you
I thought zanador was supposed to be the end of the resistance bullshittery
No you didn't. That wasn't my question
Check pins
I posted an image
I guess someone said random shit and I just assumed it was correct
It says what raids drop what
JUST GIVE A NUMBER THEN INSTEAD OF POSTING AN IMAGE THAT COULD BE DISABLED
The Bozjan revolution, yes. My best guess is Matsuno had a lot of ideas of where to take Bozja and some ended up these field notes?
Christ man calm down it's a game
JUST READ THE FCKN IMAGE
XD
Copy link
And pins don't answer it either
Does anyone know what this is referring to? I did it last night and didn't notice anything different personally, and the jump scare is still there
oh fuck - they be saying Gabranth pulled a ruse: "And yet still, there are those who believe that Noah van Gabranth did not perish that day in Castrum Valnainiāthat the corpse, mutilated beyond identification, belonged to another. Meanwhile, Lyon and the other former officers of the IVthāwar criminals, all of themāremain at large, and the provisional government approved the repatriation of the vast majority of the IVth's rank-and-file soldiers as free citizens, electing not to try them for their crimes on the battlefield."
Your question was answered, so good day sir
I know which raids drop from because i have the quest, i want to know WHICH FIGHTS drop them
Good. Day. Sir.
Read the image
Probably some of the more heavier flashing effects from the 2nd half
Some attacks were triggering seisures
Lots of flashing images, can't blame em
MY BOY OBORO CLEANING UP
I thought it was less flashy but wasn't sure yeah
They're gonna retcon some of this I bet
Retcon some of what
Glad to see Indigo Stars still showing an appearance
Grid overlay during hacking sequences when you're in the system.
These notes
'So it is that the people of Dalmasca still live in fear of the āghost of Gabranthāāfurther details regarding which will be filed in a future report. "
Ya know. If they are true
I don't think retcon so much as these notes, like, simply must be false already
too fuckin' wild,
Well maybe not retcon but like. Say that the info was wrong
How, this thing is in GamerEscape files itself D:
It is not unknown for matsuno to give false info now and correct info later.
Also got spoiled that lyon survives. Damb
The far easterners have strange magicks
The Warrior and Dragoon have flower effects
Do we know how to get the bike mount?
whats the name of the new hairstyle ?

Can I get my fckn beast master please Yoshida. You keep taunting me with them
get all the notes I think to get the bozja bike if thats what your talking about
Modern aesthetics - both ways
thanks
Like first off these notes have next to nothing related to the ending cutscenes, so yeah. --Well, other than Lyon being apprehensive with Noah now, but we got treads of that when he reacted to Noah abandoning Misija
blink
Anyone got a link to the ending of zadnor yet?
How easy is it to gather all the notes? (I'm lazy as hell)
as when I say "these notes" it is largely the Lyon II and Noah, but most the new Zadnor npc notes range from biographical, to, fuckin',
that lalafell BST's note is all about the ala mhigan dude that adopted her and she doesn't come up til the 2nd to last paragraph
Does anyone have screens of the notes anywhere?
Kinda sad tho
They need to have more story to this - right now the notes just explain Ashe alive, Gabranth faked death and Lyon on the open
https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Category:Field_Record
You can read the Field Records here, though, the quick access on the top has yet to be updated for Zadnor notes... but they're listed on the bottom,
I thought it talked about her family
Yeah, all about the Vochsteins, but it doesn't actually come to her til the end of it
Also uh. Now that lyon survived zadnor....he can be the beast master trainer :D
-I have no idea why Hien has notes he didn't even show up after pointing us towards Gangos in the very beginning
tl;dr Zadnor notes are, interesting, and I'll take a bit to digest them another time
wait if theyre set 6 months after zadnor events, that + 4 months in stormblood means we might get a confirmation of arr-ew being 1 year in total

I thought so too 
It's how the BSF and DR notes seemed like documents WoL would or could actually have access to and then,
literally right after the Battle of Zadnor Plateau concludes,
In the end, seems all the same to me (apart from Ashe asspull) - but rest remains the current status quo - Gabranth pulled a ruse to apparently fake his death, remnants of the IVth scattered running away.
"hey here's a journal from 6 months from now"
Also, note confusion aside, Zadnor story was p bomb and I enjoyed it,
10/10, best relic story
Still hoping Forchenault's "I'm disowning you" was either said in rage or with the intention to rouse the twins into going to Sharlayan... He seemed like the typical awkward japanese dad who loves his kids but awkward in showing affection 

is Deinonychus really just mia
Is that re: Cid and Mikoto?
yes
The only thing outside the bubble
theyre probably building toward "its been 1 year since the beginning of the 7th astral era"
damn mikoto will die b4 confessing
shhhh im only rank 20 
uh huh
Mikoto already shoot her shot - but she chose an horrible time and misfired. it's over now
just got that

Also her rival is Nero and she's not going to win because unlike Nero she can't build stuff with Cid
implying cid wouldnt date both of them at the same time

Yeah, the most wronged hero of the game. Bitches dont even acknowledge ShB wodlnt even exist if my boi didnt save G'raha ass. They don't even make a small mention of him. Such disrespect.
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Is there a rough estimate on how long the last relic step takes?
Ohhhh fuck that ||name drop|| in the 2nd MSQ
"It bears mentioning that Fabineau is no relation of Sartauvoir, who shares the same surnameāone commonly used in Mannatheihwo." 
Rommy
Did you do it again
Do what? I just spoiler tagged something that didn't need a spoiler tag.
Should put drg next to ninja symbol 
Is that a hint to the lv 90 skill?!?!?! /s
Again. Wol should get cool special to them attacks
why didnt they make this an emote
I say bring in cross job actions >:/
Estinien Wyrmblood stops by to deliver a joke to Ser Aymeric in Final Fantasy XIV: Shadowbringers.
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oh so the raptor is from the final dungeon chest
so I have zero chance of getting it great
which one?
Fourchenault, I believe.
oh yeah
I wanna know what theme the Al-iklil mount plays I hope its the queens theme if it is then i'll actually put major effort into gathering those notes
whats so surprising about a name we ve known for years 
what's the al-iklil, the bike?
yeah
best we can do is borderless, please look forward to it
Have we always know their moms name?
no
no
Nope. Ameliance is a new name.
Didn't think so
She probably named them both, you know.
we should go to their house and burn it up
Amalice is anima. Bad dad traded her for sharlayan being spared /s
No please we already have too many dead/missing wives
With the lemons
I'm curious to see what events lead to him to take a selfish turn against the world like we saw in the endwalker trailer when Y's was grilling him
4chenault is playing Itachi chess. Wait and see.
Pretty sure his reasoning isn't going to be selfish
Doubt it's going to be good, but.
I want him to lecture me the importance of not intervening in war
Gonna be like that
He accused Louisoix of starting that war
for a nation of scholars they sure are dumb
Isn't it more he made the war worse
Did he? I only remember him saying Louisoix's reaction was to go to war.
Fanning the flames of war or something
Which is the rational response to a foe who won't be talked down or persuaded, mind.
Fourchenaut: "Maybe if you hadn't tried to stop wars those wars wouldn't have started!"
Also Fourchenaut: "I am very intelligent."
Also Fourchenaut: "You're not my kids, you war starting war stoppers."
Matoya gonna leave her cave at last to beat them some sense. Wait and see.
idk the Linkshell thing was pretty clearly like "lol he's very clearly not giving their real reasons for this"
Yeppppp
On the first set of adds in Dalriada, top and bottom can't see each other's yells since they're in different rooms, so they're foced to use shout
Hang on I need someone geographically inclined
How close is Zadnor to Moraby Drydocks, because these muthafuckas be trying to build this ship HARD.
||Sicinius made multiple Dabogs... by extracting his memories... then modifying other hrothgar prisoners to resemble him...||

Someoneās got a bit of an obsession
damn those are some dark shit
||where's the original then|| 
f me..... twitter trying to give a dark spin on mother. Goddamn... leave her alone š¢
Someone @ me what level for dalriada
Probably already ||killed in battle||
any, just finish southern front bozja story.
What level does it end
probably the zone 1 duel, if I had to guess.....
whenever u can run DR if i remember
Dalriada is zadnor amigo
oh
One of the zone 3 Skirmishes have you fight against an ||Army of Dabog||
isnt it rank 25 for that? 
That was a horrifying explanation for ||a seemingly respawning enemy||
You know that log might explain the bsf thing
Did not expect that ending to the zadnor questline
did mikoto die? 
flees
spoil it in spoiler tags for me ty
shit yall gonna make me go play it now when I still got work to do
||Now I've seen a post epilogue cutscene of that glowing figure and I heard her seiyuu before||
only done MSQ so far but at least on that space i'm legit
Oh boo, Radovan doesn't have any new dialogue after Zadnor.
Does anyone know where to get all that artwork during the credits?
do we know how many memories the new bozja dungeon gives forthe last step?
4th step is not the last one right
One thing I'm certain of re: Fourchenault ||the Sharlayans are 100% certain they know how the world is going to end, which is why they won't interfere in any wars that take place, because they know that none of those wars will be the one that destroys the world. But they've also been assured that if they do anything that jeopardizes the end they've foreseen coming to pass, the alternative is far FAR worse.||
To draw a comparison with Avengers Infinity War/Endgame ||it's Dr. Strange intentionally giving Thanos the Time Stone because he found the one scenario where doing so resulted in Thanos being defeated... and he knew that if Tony knew he would be forced to sacrifice himself, he'd try to find a way out of it, and none of THOSE scenarios would succeed.||

can anyone confirm if hoh is 100% drop for raw emotions?
mini gunnhildir might displace mini tifa as my minion of choice
Gunhildr is hot
||"The moon will enter Earthās shadow and turn a blood red color during a total lunar eclipse on May 26." ||no fucking way
LOL
There's no way they planned this
LMAO
It's also known as super blood moon
is she actually in game or is it just passing dialogue?
Is there a list of which normal raids are the shortest?
no
lunar eclipse comes a day after patch day. coincidence?
war
war never changes
did you not get a reply?
||we fight menenius's allagan weapon. menenius dies. Save the Queen breaks its own confinement to remind Misija of the Queen's duty to Bozja, and frees her. she manifests the Queen again, and alongside the primal Queen, charges the Queenmobile into the Weapon as it attempts to destroy Zadnor. misija basically dies and has bajsaljen mercy kill her||
oh my and || what about mikoto falling off the ship ||
||fran shows up on the francycle and catches her||
damn
no i'm not joking that's just how it went
thats not bad at all 
ITs funny how she says "we be meeting again by Dalmasca, soon" more Matsuno inc, bby
oh right ||The moon turned orange during the MSQ||
It's taken from one of the notes that's a quest reward from the end of Zadnor
Also re: end of Zadnor questline - is Gabranth implying he's dying? I don't get any of the context from previous games, btw
grab the moonnn
Why does Famfrit Skirmish play the FF12 Zodiac Age Boss theme. while Belias, Shemhazai, and Hashmal CEs play the regular CE battle music.
i'd say cause haha ridorana but that would apply to belias and hashmal
in FFX2 he dies
His father, Basch, succumbed to a deadly disease in the middle of the siege of Dalmasca- I take it the line implies the disease was hereditary/ he has the same illness
that seems likely. thank you
Which, yeah, if I remember correctly, Noah is around the same age that Basch was when he died. Or close to it at least
also does anyone have a rip of the last boss of dalriada's music cause i need that again rq
wait, when was the decision for Anogg vs Konogg for the end of the Dark Apocalypse quests?
I don't remember which one I picked...
It'll be in your journal. "Heads (I Win)" is Konogg I believe and "Tails (You Lose)" is Anogg.
...anyone have the two endings on YT yet?
More greusome transformation
As in we see it was forced
apparently I got ending E...don't know if that's the case for both endings
Inb4 'Don't worry it actually gets good after you go through it through new game+ twice, and 18 weeks of letters'
'And by good, do you mean, it's worth it?' 'No.'
you just dont understand his vision
Some of these CEs are murder, it's great
Btw how are they recreating Lucavii?
Lucavi are primal-like things made by using auracites so, probably using auracites
Ultima auricite left behind maybe?
Are the Lucavii not tailored to the holder of the Auracite?
Is the new sidetail hairstyle available through Bozja?
Actual red mage villain let's go
Only available from bozja
Gotcha thank you!
Iām honestly somewhat let down itās been 12 hours and still iāve met nobody who knows to not be a coward against that rdm skirmish in the top zone
lovro?
Wow the IVth really went full evil kinda quick
the 4th really encapsulate āends justify meansā in bozja
I mean that's not so surprising considering the 4th allows sicinius
||SE wanted to promote 5.55 so bad the damn moon is orange tonight||
Is tonight the blood moon?
imagine if they had the funds available for 1.0's end to chuck a dalamud at us

oh yeah, primal stuff drops in lockboxes
yes
Also Sartuvoir didn't die in BSF
We see him in zadnor?
dalriada 1st boss
Yeah he apparently survived the Southern Front
Also on the subject of how theyāre getting more Lucavi in Zadnor ||the guy who became Cuchulainn had a sliver of Auracite that heād been using to transform his followers.||
tfw its gonna be a blood moon and like i thought it was gonna be raining the entire time
the fuck is this thing https://i.imgur.com/LvVMXFg.png
Oh shit it's panini
ahhh that's pazuzu
Panana
In Zadnor? 
On a side note, I think the confluences from the Carteneau instance might also be telling us what that big nebula-like mass over the planet that we saw in the Amaurot dungeon was.
Apparently alphinaud has to make another crystal braves esque group again?
What... is Garlean Synthetic Fabric for...
Damn I can't believe the lunar eclipse is there to promote EW /s
Increases Action Pouch space
Moons speaking critically acclaimed mmorpg
Spoilers for Noah van gabranth field note Post Zadnor story spoiler ||Apparently, he is killed by Lyon in a EXTREMELY brutal way. And sets castrum valnain on fire. and the corpse of supposed Gabranth is to mutilated to tell the identity of. But also in post story cutscene Sinicus arrives with another artifact for Gabranth, and the Gabranth family has a hereditary illness. Soooooo.... Leaving the doors open for the story to continue but not in the way we think since technically Dalmasca is also freed by proxy?||
no. they're basically using alphinaud's previous experience with the crystal braves to chart forward future plans
wtf that sounds dumb
Like a small grand company of sort?
The Grand Company of Eorzea
maybe like a small group?
nothing of the sort at all
its been a while since i remember crystal braves
It does sound dumb, clearly it teases there will be a 3rd arc... But like... I have 0 guess.
it feels like the background stuff of a dnd plot or star wars content that u dont feature in movies
so Bozja isn't quite conclusive?
Return to Ivalice, Save the Queen, ???
...oh god what if this is how we get Fortress?
unless more Ivalice based content is gonna be a part of endwalkers relic quests again
Well, it was also revealed ||Ashe is indeed alive||
Hello ! how many items required for the new relic quests specifically in "A fond memory", "Spare parts" and "Tell me a story." Thanks in advance.
if we got a region I imagine they would have teased it during fanfest
also isnt ||Lyon loyal to Gabranth? or is it loyalty to Basch? or is he just a fucking asshole||
wasn't it implied ||he's like family to them?||
30 of each
My personal guess is ||Noah had Lyon fake his death so that he can calculate the impact of his approaching death due to illness, instead of it sneaking up on him. This way heāll get a chance to ensure Dalmasca follows his ideals too, and even if he dies for real his plan wonāt suddenly collapse because everyone already thinks heās dead.||
ok posted in the wrong channel
The notes pretty much give it away as a ruse - they say ppl are really suspicious of it, as well
but yeah 4th make belias is turbo cancer
I dunno what dev thought three bombs that turn like 6 times for a massive cone aoe was a good idea
but fuck them shits aids
The trick iss that they always cone the opposite direction from where they start.
@severe brook ||so planned martyrdom without actually dying?|| 
It turns 90 degrees 6 times, that's a 360 turn and a 180 turn in total.
Itās also really weird for how some of the field notes are set a decent ways ahead in the future.
you see this is why I know im not good enough for savages
All part of the learning process!
I only learned myself after I died a gazillion times
||My guess is, the next chapter of Ivalice related content will be the last. cause 3 quest lines is like for some reason a satisfying number. But if I had to guess, Gabranth with the help of sinicus might cheat death somehow. or Atleast entrust Lyon and Sinicus with his life goal.||
anyone starting off relatively low in the new Bozja region see any decent increases for getting rank ups?
I noticed it after the 2nd death to it and it still messed me up when other things were happening
Basically. ||Gabranth seems content that Bozja will be able to lead to a nation like he and his father dreamed of, so now he wants to ensure Dalmasca does as well.||
i feel like persuading sharlayan will be like ishgard again where you try to gain trust
Not sure for level 10, but it quite literally only took 3 skirmishes or so to go from 15 to 16
especially because fourchenaault disowned his kids i think
tbf ishgard was less 'gaining trust' and more 'purging the theocratic elements'
I actually saw ||Sicinius getting handed over to the Resistance by Lyon as a sign that neither he nor Gabranth actually trusted him anymore.||
tru
So a theory I just had about who 'the dreamer' is:
If it's not Varis being used to temper people to Garlemald as a whole, and Zenos didn't start to refer to himself in the third person, we have one other case of someone being associated with dreaming in a major way.
"My slumbering brethren, dream now of a dark tomorrow"
The Amuarites that Hades invokes to boost his power and make himself bigger from phase 1 to phase 2 of the fight. So the spirit of an Ancient remembering the Final Days could potentially be the dreamer.
Fran pretty much sets it up in the end with "we might be meeting again, soon"
I imagine one of the first thing you have to do in endwalker is persuade sharlayan
when I am done with watching videos and memes I'll talk about this more in depth
if anything him disowning his kids makes it easier for us to move and for him to do whatever secret p,lans hes doing without telling people, as the twins so put it.
guys, what's the mount in Zadnor?
something tells me Sharlayans big secret will be more commonly known than Ishgards by the end
"Great now the entire world will know we're assholes!"
Which I know sucks for the twins
The 2 seater bike you get from collecting all reports thingy
Raptor drops in a chest in Dalriada
raptor? hmm
i didn't realize we needed to do 180 raids for the resistance weapon grind until i got 30 axles and saw i couldn't turn the quest in
feelsbad
Oh dataminer got Zenos' scythe https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785792536819925023/846932494301265940/Screenshot_122242.mp4
no animations yet for obvious reasons
Easier to stop the telophoroi?
@bold condor Zenos scythe above
Now that I see it properly it now, it definitely won't be diamond scythe
easier to keep the forum off his back. and whatever else bs is going on
now everyone can just call them "Alphinaud" and "Alisae"....oh wait
it's sexy
I wonder what Yoshida meant by Zenos only becoming a reaper in second half of EW? Isnt he already a reaper now?
How tf does the bullet thingy work tho (idk what it's called)
Itās such a mess I love it
||Fourch: I am NOT your dad||
Didn't he say second half of the MSQ? As in the 5.5 MSQ?
Well we haven't seen Zenos' Avatar yet
Otherwise there is no reason for him to show up at all when he could have let another Envoy do the same thing for him.
But Dad-
maybe he gets an abomination in the second half
okay i need to get this off my chest god damn
||they really need to give lyse and hien some love like really bad. we're literally at lyse's capital and she doesnt say or do anything and hien hasnt been relevant in years. grand company of EORZEA and he couldnt even make a statement about him being from othard or something sly/snarky? where the hell is yugiri? where are the turtle beast tribes at the event? why does square enix hate the asian expansion so much jesus christ|| i miss gosetsu
I Am NOT your dad
Me: I'm the dad now
Well we saw him mass murdering Garleans, so I imagine he's going to kill people to take their aether to power the primal he tries to absorb.
I really REALLY want him to instead get absorbed by the Elder Primal he tries to take over.
I remember him saying second half of EW in fanfest - or at least how Koji put it
Tali be my dad
āI have no son. This isnāt my houseā
I'm adopting the twins
man there are no tanks in zandor
they take on a new middle and last name "of Light"
Fourchenalt mustāve heard his kids are involved and upon realizing they side with eorzea, dis owned them
||"you remind me of my father. I hate my father!"||
absolutely no mercy. was like "savages be gone"
sounding like a proper garlean 
im your daddy now come here son
WoL adopts them both
now Alphinaud has a big brother
I guess he came to tell the forumās message and maybe the fact that the twins side with eorzea a message of disownment
Fourch returning to his wife: Honey I disowned our kids and told them they can die
mom:

Just wait, we arrive and thereās boxes infront of the Levelieur mansion
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND THAT CAJ
wasn't there something about estinien's last name not being wyrmblood somewhere? maybe that has something to do with this 
I think of the Hong Kong scene in Batman the dark knight when I heard the father is in grindania and I knew what he going to said
My exact sentiment honestly
"ha ha nice performance there! how ||fourchanault|| I was about to figure it out!"
Due to all the paperwork and arrangements that must be done it will take Krile approximately 6 months to secure our entry into Sharlayan

30 times e12 
Silly tali, to them it's 15 mins later
even i will lose my memory faster
Ishikawa mentioned it during the lead up to Fan Fest
well then

@.@?
you always wanted realizim in ffxiv xD
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2OvctJVkAg2WgY.jpg:large
during this scene I pictured my WoL looking back at him like
https://i.imgur.com/TZLkXry.gif
what if there's a hidden reason why alphy and ali got disowned
I think elfdad is playing the gigabrain game.
don't forget about her hints of what to do pre expansion drop if you want to understand some things in endwalker
Orrrr... Fourchenault is really doubling down on the attitude he had that caused the kids to leave in the first place, and sincerely means that he'd wished they'd mellowed out in their travels and wanted to return home.
I'm thinking the Dragons not being from the main star is going to play some sort of factor.
nah don't think so, forchy just seems like an absolute dick all around
I wanna
Mommy's mask
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa give me this fucking hair
Who knows whatās going on inside daddy leveillur
Desire sensor aza
But for now, people are busy signing adoption papers
Posting this to compare with Venat's mask design https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/226353385706618880/819206173605232690/unknown.jpeg
"With the 10 year-plus history, we were able to tie up a lot of loose ends and with the climax there will be more questions that are answered and people will understand the reasoning behind a lot of things that have been present throughout the story," Yoshida told me. "With that being said, there are areas within planet Hydaelyn where we haven't explored yet. There are continents that have yet to be discovered, areas that have yet to be explored. There's possibilities there. And with the story of Shadowbringers, we learned that the Crystal Tower acts as a portal not just to the distant Realms, including The First and those that have been divided by the Sundered, but it can also allow us to travel in time as well so we can go back to the past and future as well. So there's still a lot of possibilities left."
lol
Arenvald :(((
And arnevald is retired
they're likely gonna play a massive role with helping to take down the towers with the possibility of traveling to dragonstar wide open down the line
Arenvald is gonna go all Professor X on us. He'll play the psych games.
Do we think the starting areas are gonna get some kinda big makeover? Ala WoWāsCataclysm
people want to adopt the twins so much they dont care that dad disowned them since thats what they been waiting for this whole time mwhahahahahahhahaha
@subtle pasture so || Fran just showed up on a flying bike and saved Mikoto || bad bitch alert
they'll never ever do that lol
yoshi-p is a big fan of wow, and cata was widely hated by players because of the changes to the world
I just realized why the bozja bike seem so familiar. Same bike as ff12 lol. I couldn't put my finger on it before
time travel is lazy story telling. i hope that's not the route they go
Oh was it really
there's absolutely zero reason for it anyways since there's still two continents and a shitton of other places we haven't even seen
time travel? lazy?
time travel is 7.0?
If we go time travel give me a fucking war of the magi expac, thanks.
Time mage confirmed 7.0?
iirc ffxi players liked the time travel.....
We're gonna travel back in time to 1.0.
You want FFXIV Classic? You will get your wish.
damn, theres already mommy fanart around. MOTHER CHURCH IS OPEN
so the death before the dawn were some unnamed foot soldiers 
Also take your pick
Whoās gonna bite the bullet in 6.0
everyone
Did we ever get an answer to what happened to the ending of eden. The whole crystarium carnival that Ryne and Gaia invite you to, walk to and then vanish never to be seen again
I'm gonna wait for the "art" to show up.
Well go to that festival when Beq Lugg and co are able to fix the Thirteenth
So never.
It's so jarring I honestly thought I missed a quest back on 5.4 launch.
Maaaaybe 5.58...?
I guess they are saving it for uniting gaia/ryne with the ragtag 13th team
eden quests are already in ng+ so probably not
Scions of the First or whatever
lmao rip
The C Team
You know I thought Fourchenault would come give Alphinaud his Nouliths.
Instead he disowns him.
Wow.
Is there any cute fordola looking after wheelchair arenvald fanart yet?
Also becoming Sage to one up his dad
Fordola still keeping up the Tsun act
inb4 the ones he gets are his dad's and his mom gives them to him
i'm becoming sage to one up my gaming experience
She'll crack eventually
I wonder if Fandaniel gonna show up just to assassinate the whole forum - it'd be neat
I half expect the twins to do ff4 twins, nearly kill themselves/stone or whatever, then Fourchenault does what the sage does in ff4 and kills himself trying to avenge/save them.
While it seems Anima is more likely to be connected to Garlemald, my old theory was that sheād be a Sharlayan Primal made to govern Labyrinthos only for Fandaniel to show up and temper the Forum right as they summoned her
Eh, even though the expansion utilizes FF4 elements I don't expect it'll use the same story beats. That would be...cheap.
Or that Fourchenault would do the corruption himself if heād been possessed
Personally I think heād be more likely to be the King of Baron analogue instead.
Sharlayan is way more concerned about dipping than doing anything like that it seems.
I mean jeez, at least Amaurot was like, doing research and didnt pretend that stuff wasnt on fire.
They at least had Azem.
@severe brook I actually didnt think of that, thats a good point
But why would Fourchenault literally come all that way just to say "no" and to disown his kids.
That seems not worth the effort when he could just leave them on read.
Granted it seems implied that Sharlayan is doing research too. Also, you say this like the Twins/the Scions as a whole arenāt the Azem analogue for Sharlayan.
Only Azem was concerned for the overall world, tho, taking opinions and meeting outsiders. Amaurotians themselves thought oblivious to strangers.
I think he's sneakily giving them some leeway, but most seem to think he's just a dick. Which he is, ofc, but that doesnt mean he doesnt wanna help
I think he's trying to agitate the twins/scions on purpose so they'd come
@forest magnet what even was azem doing during final days when amaurot was busy sacrificing themselves for gods. thats the story I wanna know
Can you get the new relics without the glows for glam purposes?
There are better ways to hint at wanting to help than literally disowning your kids
Yeah, which is why he's a dick.
But yeah that was way too much effort to be like "lol no"
i read this so wrong
So we know what to expect in 6.0
Exactly what me and the bf where saying!
We still more pieces to this puzzle, yeah. Even though Azem didn't initially side with anyone. Can't be mere coincidence he became Hydaelyn's champion. Either he discovered something or took some decision that eventually made him side with her before the Sundering itself, me guesses
so, i'm missing two field notes, meryall and mesenius 2, any idea where?
Venat/Hydaelyn's appearance at the end seemed more pointless than anything, like we know how big the stakes are here we don't need Hydaelyn telling us that...
So is venat going on adventures with us or gonna be ghostly like Ardbert?
yes
Is Carbuncle the Mac
I mean when is the last time we heard from her
Seems like that, yeah
And now she's showing up physically
@crimson pollen ngl I still dont trust Hydaelyn or Venat. all primals must go. like why would azem willingly do that to the planet.
"Darkness comes, and with it, the end."
"Wow Hydaelyn that really tells me a lot thanks."
Heavensward was the last time IIRC
Means she knows that shit will hit the fan soon xD
well i would like to hear her perspective about the Final Days
It's probably to hint she'd be similar to Elidibus
As in showing up physically to help us
But people will tolerate Venat cause she cute or something like that
I mean look at Emet Selch
We heard Emet Selch's tale. I wonder did she agreed to the summoning of Zordiak to stop it
It's not like they had any choice at that point.
The Venat name has a bit of baggage for me to jump on the "O boi, Mom" train just yet.
XII Venat ultimately wanted to help but that didnt stop her from being hella manipulative.
At least with the Ascian tag along you always knew to be cautious.
She's not set up as a villain like Emet-Selch tho, that'd be Damndaniel and Zenos
What class is Alisae? This feels so great to play
She made an indirect warning you should suspect something bigger is coming other than just towers doing stuff - theres more to it than meets the eye
Fannydan*
Dumbdaniel
red mage
Whatttttt
red mage with an action that RDM doesn't have.
Shit..i might have to pick up red mag- oh
why are these warnings never straightforward
why do they always do this weird vague shit, if the world's that important be straight damn it@
Inb4 ppl gonna ask for the combo buttons that Scions have to be implemented to the actual jobs 
Is it possible to stack actions for combos like they do in these role plays?
RDM is cool except when the healers get mad at you for verraising xD
They trying to suck the aether out of the planet right? no aether no life
which healer gets mad at that???
Yes....for pvp.
I wont believe Venat is a good person even to the last second. I cant trust anyone whose response to a hungry manipulative god is to make another one.
Alisaie would rather die than go with Estinien
Darn it!
a verraising rdm = more glares for whm
Because āholier than thou canāt interfere too muchā
MORE GLARE
This battle has checkpoints
I've had lots of healers telling me to know my place when I verraise lol

Like fuckin tell me something I don't know Hydaelyn it's gonna be 6 long ass months.
Please look forward to it
I mean a glare is worse than a verthundaero and delaying a melee combo buuuuuuuut
I'm like "I'm just trying to help!"
dumb theory time?
if you get any healers mad at you for raising and are serious about it you know they're a bad healer
I will always hug a RDM that actually helps
I personally think they don't have to reveal anything beside setting up for the expansion
unfortunately, thats just fiction in general 
Lest the fandom spins whatever is shown to something totally different and get disappointed when they found out what it actually means in 6.0
Venat made the blueprint on how to create Zordiak which is why she knew how to counter it with the few dissidants she has - dumb theory
Imagine if Gra'ha told us who he was at the beginning
If shit is hitting fan and I have a RDM helping me rez, that RDM gets my com (and bfs if we are partied) and a hug
she wasn't even on the convocation (as far as we know...)
Good thing I get checkpoints because i'll eff this up somehow
She wasn't the architect either that was 
true it was dumb. but she should have some personal connection with one of them atleast
Mogfan are you misremembering the Anamnesis Anyder scene? That building had nothing to do with Convocation, that was Akadaemia Anyder
Can I skip to fall?
I hate summer anyway.
I'm sure Venat favors us cause we knew each other in the past
SE at least give me the battle figurines.
Venat as far as we know have no connection to Convocation
maybe elidibus was her kid. idk explains why he hates hydaelyn so much
So a random thought I had while rewatching the trailer for the hundreth time:
What if Emet-Selch with is penchant for nation building helped make Sharlyan in some way? (Or any other Ascian I suppose.)
They have knowledge that by all rights should be lost to history, seem confident about the Final Days, and know where Hydalen is.
Reason I say Emet in particular is because he narrates the Endwalker trailer so I suspect his influence will be felt in some way, but also because he says that he genuinely tried to live with sundered beings but was disappointed each and every time. I can see him making a city where 'everyone is equal and has a voice, in the pursuit of knowledge' and being disgusted and disappointed yet again when it fails to live up to his impossible standards of being Amaurot.
Oh also, Iām probably late to this, but I did it hours ago, but...
HOLY FUCK I ADORED HOW PRINCESS RAVANA LOOKED šš
boat
Reminds me of the old Eden theories xD
Yuh I think Sharlayan had an ascian fiddle with them at some point to not intervene
One thing is for sure, Azem didnt really stay on the fence till the end. Not like everything was happening and happened and Azem was like away all the time - planet was sundered and Azem afk, certainly not. At some point Azem had a say either way.
When Garuda was gonna be a jet plane.
And the Knights of the Twelve would appear mixed with King Moogle Mog
I beleive the WoL at the time was close friend who turned into an Ascian
Oh this theme
It's pretty stupid that the Ascians would found a nation that ended up producing people that would kill their bretheren in unprecedented numbers.
Getting The First flashbacks
finally
Saving Ryne
Thereās a reason I call Ravana, Princess Ravana....
Saving the Crystarium
to be fair it's only recently that this started happening
Azem always wanted to rally everyone to save everyone though. which is what were always doing
Ravana cute
Yeah it took someone from Sharlyan to find out how to actually kill an Ascian. The first Ascian death was like right during ARR.
half the scions are from there too
All of them no?
all of them except us and tataru
The big ones anyway
also disowning the twins means they are free from sharlyan politics?
All the scions with white hair are from there
I'd love if an Ascian never actually got a chance to bother Sharlyan (cause they have defenses or such) and this is just plain old human jerkery going on.
they were free from it to begin with
God King Moggle Mog
I... I never fucking noticed that...
G'raha Tia has red hair ahem
They were still under their father's supervision. only now they are truly free
Pretty sure all of them but Minfillia, Tataru and us from the original group?
Thancred, Y'shtola, Papalymo, and Yda?
G'raha is also from there.
Do level 70 dungeons drop the relic item every time/100% :X ? For the last step
Not really no. They operated under no supervision actually.
Never forget Ifrit as Shivaās bike
Krile didn't even let him know his kids were about to fucking die.
GRATS!!! she cute
Graha dyed his hair obvi
tbf she didn't tell their mom either
Iām choosing to ignore the pic, because #VieraLimitations and MAJOR jealousy ;3;
Still no thank you words for Nero to save Graha ass
Nero is just Tsundere
"rejoice in the glory of combat"
Mom is gonna hear about dad disowning the kids and come running with their new clothes
I fucking love Nero, but how did he escape from the Void to show up to get Omega?
Did they ever explain that?
"how dare he say that! your dad is stupid. i'm gonna take u guys to mcdonalds"
Uh Cid rescued him.
yea and he was in the infirmatory the whole time
ok so like did I miss something did it ever explain why oboro and tsubme are there other than through the notes and skirmishes?
Yeah, no Graha, no ShB, no First saved if it wasnt by the hero Nero saving Graha in the Void
Oh it's legitimately been over a year since I did those quests and forgot about that
in the world of darkness? cid saved his ass
Cool, thank you
watch it in the inn. It has nero's best tsundere moment
I bet dad never tells their mom what he did and instead cuts off all communication with them
Then acts like the twins forgot about them or something
Fourchenault just goes back to Sharlayan and tells outrageous lies to cover what heās done
also whats the pieces on the table transition? is there more than what we know?
āWhere are the kids?ā
āThey...died. Tragically and suddenly. Already buried.ā
i feel like I already seen this type of plotline before so...... im not too worried
though i think we get approved to go to Sharylan because of him
I hope mom kicks his ass when she finds out
It's a cute transition thing. I wouldn't read too much into it.
me too
Like in the cutscene lol
4chenault be playin Elon Musk BitCoin chess. We just know it.
maybe he had to be very brutal infront of a political leader to have a witness
The pose for the figure worked for my character definitely as well xD
The Odin part was probably my favorite.
Who summoned Odin though
And I have to heal?? I've never healed in my life xD
Dude just roam around grindania
But then I am AST so I was comfortable I guess
Clearly another Ascian gone rogue is keeping an eye on the battle through the Echo and feeding info to Fandaniel
U know the funny thing about the Odin fight
Urianger did damage with his cards
U DO DAMAGE WITH THE CARDS
Its obvious they're saving the best for last: Lunar King Moggle Mog
but Fandaniel is literally just hovering there
Magic Papercuts can be deadly
Yeah, Lord of Crowns used to do that.
i might just marathon this resistance weapon tbh
Has anyone watched Jericho? If so... i really want a moment with Fourchenault that is like Mayor Green's moment with Gray Anderson....
I really liked that the healer part has an enrage
i want to hover with fandaniel
Fandaniel was very chill with this whole big thing failing. Almost as if it would have been cool if it worked, but he doesnt care if it doesnt, he just wants an excuse so Zenos doesnt cut his head off early.
So they force people to dps with a healer, because we all know that's an issue with some people
Barely made it with Odin lol
I stumbled on the Break part lol.
"I can't find Break!"
Is fandaniel secretly Xanatos?
He had the same feeling with Lunar Bahamut attacking us, he's planning something bigger than all of this. If any of these plans work? Neat! If not? Oh well, master plan is still going on.
Fandaniel is clearly Sin guys. 
that anima scream though
I think hes certainly more clever than he's let on. Hes subtly pushing Zenos a little further and further to do things.
FFX + FFIV = FFXIV
As Emet put it, he's immortal, free to plot and plan to his hearts content.
galaxy brain
Zenos is really going full hypeman for this rematch with the WoL, tho.
Oh yeah, I think Zenos works really well as a 'dragon' to someone else when it comes to story telling.
Zenos can't really push a plot himself in my opinion, but with someone like Fandaniel manipulating him (even if Zenos admits he knows what Fandaniel is doing) is interesting.
Zenos just wants a good time and following fandan will help with that
well Fandaniel needs muscle and what better person than with the 2nd strongest person in the game
would be funny if it's a short fight where we just kick his ass and move on
If Zenos is The Dragon... who is our Lancer? or is it really that obvious...
I almost lost @.@
Yeah I really REALLY want Zenos to get curbstombed this expansion.
Like Zodiark eats him or something.
Which fight Tali
Odin
Knowing Zenos he'll merge with Zodiark lol
Itās really that obvious, given Estinien is based on one of the most well-known Lancers in gaming
He has all that darkness
Yeah, Zenos even had the dark aura for some seconds in him this time - he going full nuts
But he doesn't ride along the moon with us. in the trailer atleast
Having space adventures to meet Zordiak with Venat
Estinien is better than Kain for me personally
Yeah Zenos wants to merge with Zodiark but I want Zodiark to take Zenos over instead of the other way around.
Zodiark is the primal of Salvation after all, while Zenos wants a fight. Shinryu didn't really have something like 'Salvation' as its driving force.
Maybe cause he isn't after Rosa obsessively like Kain was xD
Yeah that part helps a lot
estinien is tsundere for krile 100%
hey they both wants cecil's dick
Eureka showed Krile just needs the superior Ejika Tsunjika - he shoulda join Scions and show how it is done
sprites drop fragments
I see they want to summon Zordiak with the final days with the people in the source yearn for salvation
Also Estinien was against us outside of his control. Kain did it like twice all by himself lol
So does anything not magitek
Or better yet, Fandaniel says he is aiming Zenos towards Zodiark but instead aims Zenos to Hydalen so we have to use Zodiark as the stars Salvation one more time.
anyone got a spot for where sprites spawn during weather
need to know where they spawn and what rank they are
Yeah... i knew it... just it's so... on the nose.
Let's not think Zenos is 15 IQ, tho. At some point he might grow outside Fandango's limit (at least we know Fandango himself, at least in this form, is not making it to the end of the expac)
We're the Cecil to Estinien's Kain.
only 140 more 8 man raids. then i can do 15 alliance raids
Especially with the PLD emphasis
but yea i hope Venat isn't a ghost and has an actual form. It would be nice way of humanizing her.
... So, just finished the Nier questline and... well it's as confusing as any of the Nier games.
And the fact that the previous main job was DRK lol
yep nier announcement in e3 maybe?
||that person who people are saying is Venat sure sounds like Hydaelyn||
I think he is outside of fandango's limit already... it's just there isn't really a trope name for a big bad that acts like a dragon while they let their dragon pretend they are the big bad....
Oh yeah Zenos for sure knows he's being played, but he's willing to go along because Fancy Dan has been useful so far.
tbf we don't even know Zordiak's voice. but is should share Elidibus
like.... if fandango did anything to jeopardize Zenos lovedeathmatch.... i'm sure he'd get immediately merc'd.
well yea that's his whole reason he went with the plan in the first place
not that fandaniel isn't okay with this
i mean yeah... but he would like to have everything else burn first.
Yeah, but I mean, it's less a setback to him. That's the whole point
low effort shitpost for this patch
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/822289047530635266/846949818415841290/unknown.png
yea he wants to destroy the world first before getting killed.
their dynamic as villains is fun because both are well aware the other person can and will turn on them in an instant but they benefit each other for the moment so they keep playing this balancing act
cue guiles theme
anyone 25 tryna do dalriada?
Zenos only cares about his best friend
I'm really expecting a scenario where fanny danny seriously tries to kill us and zenos helps us
It's crazy how the devs treat Zenos so poetically. They made him lay in a "bed" of roses in the end of Stormblood. They really have faith this guy, lol
he's an anime supervillain
He's the Sephiroth of XIV
4 battles down...one more to go...maybe;
i feel like Fandaniel is smart enough to know that if he gets in Zenos' way he's dying immediately
not really, otherwise he would be popping up as hallucinations every 5 mins 
which yes, that is his backup plan
but he's got everything else going on first
I mean he's fine with dying anyways lol
No he has a character.
sephiroth has a character sometimes
They both have pretty hair 
(this sometimes is a charitable interpretation of him in FF7 and Crisis Core)
Not much of it
They're both obsessed with the mc
Alphy's Sage arc really being kickstarted by a desire to heal all the things
or kill all the things so he won't have to heal all the things first pew pew pew
To heal and protect
From episode 21 of After War Gundam X.
Update: Why the fuck did a vid this old get so many views several years after it premiered
U didn't do beast tribes Tali?
Some not all
Since there we deal with ppl who aren't tempered
I know there are branches of each tribe that aren't tempered
But it's weird seeing the leaders no longer that way
I have to say...I didn't like the twins much myself.
But I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to doomslayer fourchenault's ass
Sephiroth's not actually too obsessed with Cloud at first in FF7
didnt mewlewb kill the sahagin priest
whereas Zenos basically starts being obsessed from the moment we meet
I kinda wish Sezul and my boi Tataramu showed up to the meeting on their airship š¢
Nope. The sahagin priest in ARR is absorbed by Leviathan




