#retired-patch-6-3-discussion

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carmine basin
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Cruise Chaser, unlike the Raptor, is unique/untradeable so

wispy talon
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My feeling is that they're trying to encourage alphinaud and alisaie

tight marlin
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Lunar primals mute af

wispy talon
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If they truly know what's going to happen and are being very secretive about it

prime zinc
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So relic weapon drops are they just random which you get from raids?

rain onyx
carmine basin
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If it's unique, it's usually a reward or mogstation

prime zinc
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nice

odd yoke
twin zinc
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šŸ˜‚

placid sail
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so does anyone know where to get cruise chaser yet

clever flume
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newp

placid sail
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i s2g if it's the seasonal reward for the feast

odd yoke
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Someone buy my hair on light kthx meowuwu

simple valve
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does anyone know where the new armor shop is ?

bold condor
torpid yoke
gloomy shale
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last relic step easy? haven't checked the patch out yet

placid sail
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then I hope those 100 wintraders will be happy with it

odd yoke
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Easy Yes, just long

torpid yoke
odd yoke
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With the amount of items you need for the non repeatable step

candid pewter
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No light gathering this time?

odd yoke
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Nope

gloomy shale
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oh the pin right haha

maiden lodge
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Dude WARMECH is in Bozja

torpid yoke
subtle pasture
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Alright, just finished the Dalriada...

odd yoke
grave elm
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the 5.55 solo instance was the best one they've done imo that was really good

odd yoke
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Ikr, I was giddy

torpid yoke
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I hope they use the figures in EW

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They can even use it for big map and show the scions in different areas

crystal arrow
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that transition was so fucking cool

torpid yoke
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Just change wols pose to weapon pose though

odd yoke
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I think playing as alisiase was the best out of the selection

torpid yoke
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SQenx please

stiff charm
stiff charm
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an ogcd to compliment moulinet perhaps

torpid yoke
stiff charm
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slash-spin-slash-spin-slash-spin owocarby

tight marlin
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Estinien went fucking crazy in 5.55 instance tho

stiff charm
drowsy belfry
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I'd actually like Alisaie's AoE melee as an upgrade for us

tight marlin
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"Oh no ifrit summoned 10 infernal nails"

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Estinien: HOW ABOUT 10 CLONES AND 10 STARDIVERS COMBOED INTO A DARKDRAGON DIVE

odd yoke
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He definitely moved up to Sss tier

tight marlin
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Estinien: we got a primal problem? MORE STARDIVER

stiff charm
torpid yoke
tight marlin
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Estinien: BY THE POWER OF NIDHOGG IN ME, I STARDIVER U TO DEATH

drowsy belfry
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I mean either way RDM could do with a BIT MORE AoE, maybe a Verwater as an AoE finisher

bold condor
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Really glad I wasn't a DRG just then because I'd be looking for a longer lance to overcompensate.

stiff charm
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verflood owocarby

torpid yoke
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Yet

stiff charm
tight marlin
carmine basin
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Ngl I thought Alisaie have to build gauge too so I didn't use the melee combo until later. I should've read tooltip or try pressing the button haha

bold condor
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XD

subtle pasture
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...does Save the Queen have multiple endings

stiff charm
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no, different routes to same ending (according to yoshi p. im only rank 20 so idk)

tight marlin
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Stardiver can now be used 3 times in life of the dragon
Dragonfire Dive becomes DarkDragon Dive

drowsy belfry
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TBH Alisaie kinda fuckin stronk, she can just pull out a Verflare whenever she want

subtle pasture
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A'ight good, the somberness was putting me in "did I get the bad route," -- right, he did confirm that

drowsy belfry
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We can't even do that

tight marlin
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U know
Its kinda funny how when u control alisaie, graha was a PLD
But when u control graha he was a BLM

grave elm
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maybe we should just let alisaie take out zenos for us

torpid yoke
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These hoes the scions have aoe attacks. SO WHY DON'T YALL AOE AS TRUSTS

stiff charm
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"wol is so cool i want to be like them" has better moves than us wearycarby

torpid yoke
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Ya hoes >:/

hollow berry
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does anyone know a link where I can see all the new relic models?

carmine basin
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I was too focused on DPSing to notice what skills they use MiqoteDepressed

swift kraken
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wow i cant believe they made roleplaying cool

swift kraken
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didnt think theyd manage

hollow berry
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oh thank you

tight marlin
chrome sundial
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"....I beg your pardon?" Was hilarious

swift kraken
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remembering stormblood roleplaying with like 2 skills. 3 on a good day

torpid yoke
drowsy belfry
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I'd also love that little WoL statue

tight marlin
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Literally the meeting
Sahagin: SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Everyone: wat
Sahagin: o rite thats our war cry sorry about that

torpid yoke
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Same hedge

nocturne void
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pepega notes

carmine basin
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It was cool to see G'raha switch jobs/main weapon when they're about to cure the tempered tho. I want healing skills as caster too sadcarby

swift kraken
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graha tia the white/black mage

gaunt star
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graha flexing every role

tight marlin
viral dew
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just got through 5.55 myself...

swift kraken
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its still so surreal seeing him fighting with the scions i think im still not over 5.3

carmine basin
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I never notice if his stance is still BLM if he's healer as trust or it's the same as BLM

torpid yoke
viral dew
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this is what it feels like now

dim sigil
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MOOOOOOON

chrome sundial
nocturne void
subtle pasture
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Oh god, the end of StQ stinger

drowsy belfry
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Oh did you do the dungeon Glass?

tight marlin
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I do like that moment where Merwylb was like "u know blowing it the fuck up works"
The sahagin got salty
And the gobbo was like "chill its just an idea she would have done it ages ago"

viral dew
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i should go start playing the Day 1 theme on BRD

carmine basin
swift kraken
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i actually laughed so hard when they just showed the moon. like in my head i was just yelling "holy shit is that an endwalker reference???"

dim sigil
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Its weord and random like in world for everyoneto suddenly stare up at the moon but was a cool scene

torpid yoke
subtle pasture
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||the disease that took Basch, was hereditary?||

swift kraken
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me looking at my shadow and being like holy shit is that a final fantasy fourteen shadowbringers reference

subtle pasture
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and a more minor note but confirmation this twink is Sicinius

carmine basin
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I thought the moon scene is a bit weird since they're all in the middle of like recovering after the battle, surely someone else would need help and they don't have time to stare? haha

nocturne void
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bozja fun

unreal wadi
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Wow

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Fourchenault's a bitch

subtle pasture
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(bc ofc StQ ends with a Meanwhile in Valnain)

tight marlin
gaunt star
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I’m just waiting for the bozja cutscenes to be put on YouTube

torpid yoke
chrome sundial
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||Grand Company of Eorzea!||

drowsy belfry
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"Your motherfucking life ends in 6 months motherfucker"

  • Warrior of Light looking at the Moon
nocturne void
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meanwhile back at the ranch

mild gazelle
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Anyone know what Raids drop Compact Springs/Beyond the Rift/Lurid Memories?

torpid yoke
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Too bad I'm at work atm

stiff charm
subtle pasture
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Also also, since Gabranth is in fact not dealt with, I get the inkling it's setting up Dalmasca for 7.0

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I can dream

stiff charm
carmine basin
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It was also a bit jarring that the beast tribes took time to tell the Scions "hey we didn't wholly win but you guys did great" like I think they would care more about taking care of their brethren first before thanking others. And the way everyone stop to stare... It's just a bit odd timing to have that scene

tight marlin
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U know what would have been great
"WoL what should we name this new alliance of ours"
"The Crystal Braves!"
Alphinaud: >has an aneurysm and a stroke and a panic attack and fucking dies on the spot

subtle pasture
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Maybe, I'm just also in the Four Fiends camp for that

nocturne void
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Remember that time you committed war crimes Alphinaud

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hahahaha

crimson pollen
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It wasnt even given explanation teh Fran part - and they briefly mention her again 1 patch ago - so its not like they forgot. We dont know who she is protecting or what exactly is up there

drowsy belfry
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Also can we just appreciate that the devs are sneakily trying to see how far they can push skybox bullshit in Zadnor for 6.0

severe brook
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Four Archfiends for either MSQ or Trial Series

carmine basin
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I'm so glad for Alphinaud tho he went a long way sadcarby I almost cried with him when I picked the name (I forgot the significance of it)

drowsy belfry
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Casually having airships bomb you seems like something that'll happen

torpid yoke
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Fckn 4th legion continually bombing us

stiff charm
severe brook
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A part of me is almost still predicting Cagnazzo!Fourchenault as part of the IV homepage

dim sigil
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I don't think you even have to be in a fate to have bombing because I've seen that just randomly happen

gaunt star
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Wait you don’t deal with Gabranth???

stiff charm
merry osprey
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Yea it’s random outside fates

torpid yoke
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I don't think that will be the case at all honestly blitz XD

tight marlin
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Here's the thing
If the four archfiends are the trials
Scarmiligone or whatever the fuck his name is gonna be a Dungeon boss

fringe adder
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I'm having issue with Venat casually popping up like the biggest lightbulb in the area and the Wol being the only person to see her. Is this some tempering stuff going on.

torpid yoke
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But your anima theory could hold weight

tight marlin
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Remember Genbu anyone

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He got shafted for the trial fight owocarby

carmine basin
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Hope Forchenault and Ameliance lets me adopt the twins

stiff charm
severe brook
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Gabranth is never in Bozja, he’s been in Dalmasca the whole time

faint dagger
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god trying to get into dalriada is gonna be the death of me

gaunt star
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Mikopog

maiden lodge
stiff charm
drowsy belfry
carmine basin
kind lark
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We're tempered towards the moon.

crimson pollen
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I guess Matsuno will announce next ffxiv collab at a later opportunity - history is totally on the open still

torpid yoke
subtle pasture
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from Cid's Field Records, nothin' really new, but

fringe adder
subtle pasture
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what do you mean he survived the initial blast

maiden lodge
stiff charm
gaunt star
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we arent tempered tf

faint dagger
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bro my man should've been atoms

drowsy belfry
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W-wait INITIAL?

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Dude's built different

crimson pollen
subtle pasture
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The Citadel was glassed and Midas died after to his injuries tf

dim sigil
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Yeah

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He used drks immunity skill

wet mountain
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How does one spawn Does one Dalriada?

maiden lodge
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It's an echo thing.

drowsy belfry
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Canon WoL quotes

subtle pasture
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Okay Fran's notes is a fucking doozy how do I begin on this one

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So the Ashe situation, completely solved, in her fuckin' notes, because of course it is

prisma vine
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???

severe brook
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Datalogs bro!

drowsy belfry
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OmG iS mIkOtO HyThLoDaEuS

torpid yoke
carmine basin
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No Hedge, it's Forchenault

drowsy belfry
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ShE uSeS tHe ShUsH eMoTe

wet mountain
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Is it easy Dalriada?

subtle pasture
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oh can't spoiler block that code text,

drowsy belfry
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Aya you fucking genius

wet mountain
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Hard like CLL ??

subtle pasture
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also yes it's a bloody novel bc of course it is

drowsy belfry
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CLL
Hard

gaunt star
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pick one haha

drowsy belfry
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Hah that's funny

carmine basin
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You can use ||> text here I think??

subtle pasture
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||tl;dr it's the actual princess she was put in stasis for 30 years and Rasler made Fran and her company stage her death||

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I s2g Matsuno

crimson pollen
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Ashe is alive then?

carmine basin
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That's.... wearycarby

crimson pollen
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TOLD YOU they were gonna bring up some silly thing and make Ashe alive.

subtle pasture
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I know, but that's just, so confusedcatto2

odd yoke
torpid yoke
glad niche
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Does getting the new armour seem like much of a grind? What do we have to do for it?

gaunt cradle
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Im assuming run the new dungeon

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I think theres one? I saw platinum coins letting you buy the early to rise hairstyle

topaz river
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ā€œI don’t like like Cid, I just respect himā€

next quarry
subtle pasture
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....Okay the final notes is Noah's and these, make no sense.

torpid yoke
gaunt cradle
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4th make belias is a bag of dicks

gritty pawn
subtle pasture
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Like listen, I'm the one who pours over these essays and adores whatever weird detail Matsuno can squeeze in

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the Zadnor ones are giving me a headache.

torpid yoke
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It trivialize everything but divebombs

maiden lodge
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What is Oboro's entry.

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What IS this fever dream

wet mountain
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Soo is spawning Dalriada same as cll

spice vessel
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Has anyone found out how to get the Deinonychus yet?

torpid yoke
gaunt star
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I’m sending Bozja: electric boogaloo in 6.0

wet mountain
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How have so many cleared it already then

subtle pasture
gaunt cradle
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im surprised I saw so many cerberus mounts

subtle pasture
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Lyon's second note and Noah's are, just.... what

torpid yoke
gaunt cradle
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I thought no one would bother with delubrum savage

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also notes aren't unqiue to duels right?

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I know some at least drop in random ass critical engagements

subtle pasture
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Shouldn't be, yeah. Lyon's 2nd note probably also drops from one of the beasts in the Dalriada

nocturne void
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There'll be more DR savage now that you can skill up better

half phoenix
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So as usual, with people not killing mechs, critical aren't spawning, so which raids drop the critical event tokens?

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A/O/E8-12?

torpid yoke
subtle pasture
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Okay, if y'all thought the Ashe bit in Fran's notes were a doozy,

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||Lyon II and Noah's both say Lyon assassinate/d Noah 6 months after the events at Zadnor conclude/d??||

gaunt cradle
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tbh I kinda forget all about ashe in ff14

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wasn't in southern front it was all fran is hiding her or something

subtle pasture
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the fuck

gaunt star
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???

drowsy belfry
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WHAT

crimson pollen
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Ashe is alive, bois. She be sittin that Eorzean table soon

acoustic hornet
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how many relic drops does a dalriada give?

subtle pasture
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Idk man, I have the inkling these notes won't hold up in a year or two

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they're hella wild reads now, though

gaunt cradle
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do you have all the notes in game or are you reading them from somewhere cuz it seems really weird if the notes would be a complete mess like your saying

half phoenix
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I dont need clusters though

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I need criticals

subtle pasture
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The final quest rewards a handful, I don't have Lyon's 2nd note though, but it does corroborate Noah's notes ||about Lyon assassinating him in the dead of night like ???||

drowsy belfry
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You spawn CEs by farming Clusters

half phoenix
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I'm aware

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That wasn't what I was asking though. I was asking WHICH RAIDS drop the critical event tokens

gaunt cradle
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make group > people kill robots > ce's spawn

subtle pasture
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Mind you, these are notes "set" "6 months" after what happens at Zadnor, concernedkeiko

maiden lodge
# half phoenix I'm aware

Welp, if you need CEs and you're waiting and have nothing to do, and you don't have the new lost actions, cluster farming

torpid yoke
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.....sounds like a lot of fckerry happens at the end of zadnor?

half phoenix
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Can you answer the question???

odd yoke
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I answered you

gaunt cradle
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I thought zanador was supposed to be the end of the resistance bullshittery

half phoenix
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No you didn't. That wasn't my question

odd yoke
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I posted an image

gaunt cradle
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I guess someone said random shit and I just assumed it was correct

odd yoke
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It says what raids drop what

half phoenix
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JUST GIVE A NUMBER THEN INSTEAD OF POSTING AN IMAGE THAT COULD BE DISABLED

subtle pasture
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The Bozjan revolution, yes. My best guess is Matsuno had a lot of ideas of where to take Bozja and some ended up these field notes?

drowsy belfry
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Christ man calm down it's a game

torpid yoke
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JUST READ THE FCKN IMAGE

torpid yoke
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XD

odd yoke
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Copy link

half phoenix
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And pins don't answer it either

carmine basin
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Does anyone know what this is referring to? I did it last night and didn't notice anything different personally, and the jump scare is still there

crimson pollen
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oh fuck - they be saying Gabranth pulled a ruse: "And yet still, there are those who believe that Noah van Gabranth did not perish that day in Castrum Valnaini—that the corpse, mutilated beyond identification, belonged to another. Meanwhile, Lyon and the other former officers of the IVth—war criminals, all of them—remain at large, and the provisional government approved the repatriation of the vast majority of the IVth's rank-and-file soldiers as free citizens, electing not to try them for their crimes on the battlefield."

maiden lodge
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Your question was answered, so good day sir

half phoenix
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I know which raids drop from because i have the quest, i want to know WHICH FIGHTS drop them

odd yoke
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Read the image

drowsy belfry
odd yoke
drowsy belfry
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Lots of flashing images, can't blame em

viscid monolith
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MY BOY OBORO CLEANING UP

carmine basin
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I thought it was less flashy but wasn't sure yeah

torpid yoke
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They're gonna retcon some of this I bet

viscid monolith
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Retcon some of what

maiden lodge
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Glad to see Indigo Stars still showing an appearance

forest magnet
torpid yoke
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These notes

crimson pollen
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'So it is that the people of Dalmasca still live in fear of the ā€œghost of Gabranthā€ā€”further details regarding which will be filed in a future report. "

torpid yoke
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Ya know. If they are true

subtle pasture
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I don't think retcon so much as these notes, like, simply must be false already

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too fuckin' wild,

torpid yoke
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Well maybe not retcon but like. Say that the info was wrong

crimson pollen
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How, this thing is in GamerEscape files itself D:

maiden lodge
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It is not unknown for matsuno to give false info now and correct info later.

torpid yoke
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Also got spoiled that lyon survives. Damb

viscid monolith
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The far easterners have strange magicks

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The Warrior and Dragoon have flower effects

glad niche
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Do we know how to get the bike mount?

sullen bone
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whats the name of the new hairstyle ?

torpid yoke
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Can I get my fckn beast master please Yoshida. You keep taunting me with them

gaunt cradle
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get all the notes I think to get the bozja bike if thats what your talking about

carmine basin
sullen bone
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thanks

subtle pasture
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Like first off these notes have next to nothing related to the ending cutscenes, so yeah. --Well, other than Lyon being apprehensive with Noah now, but we got treads of that when he reacted to Noah abandoning Misija

torpid yoke
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blink

gaunt star
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Anyone got a link to the ending of zadnor yet?

glad niche
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How easy is it to gather all the notes? (I'm lazy as hell)

subtle pasture
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as when I say "these notes" it is largely the Lyon II and Noah, but most the new Zadnor npc notes range from biographical, to, fuckin',

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that lalafell BST's note is all about the ala mhigan dude that adopted her and she doesn't come up til the 2nd to last paragraph

median torrent
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Does anyone have screens of the notes anywhere?

drowsy belfry
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Kinda sad tho

crimson pollen
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They need to have more story to this - right now the notes just explain Ashe alive, Gabranth faked death and Lyon on the open

subtle pasture
torpid yoke
subtle pasture
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Yeah, all about the Vochsteins, but it doesn't actually come to her til the end of it

torpid yoke
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Also uh. Now that lyon survived zadnor....he can be the beast master trainer :D

subtle pasture
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-I have no idea why Hien has notes he didn't even show up after pointing us towards Gangos in the very beginning

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tl;dr Zadnor notes are, interesting, and I'll take a bit to digest them another time

stiff charm
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wait if theyre set 6 months after zadnor events, that + 4 months in stormblood means we might get a confirmation of arr-ew being 1 year in total owocarby owocarby owocarby

carmine basin
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I thought so too haha

subtle pasture
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It's how the BSF and DR notes seemed like documents WoL would or could actually have access to and then,

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literally right after the Battle of Zadnor Plateau concludes,

crimson pollen
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In the end, seems all the same to me (apart from Ashe asspull) - but rest remains the current status quo - Gabranth pulled a ruse to apparently fake his death, remnants of the IVth scattered running away.

subtle pasture
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"hey here's a journal from 6 months from now"

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Also, note confusion aside, Zadnor story was p bomb and I enjoyed it,

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10/10, best relic story

carmine basin
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Still hoping Forchenault's "I'm disowning you" was either said in rage or with the intention to rouse the twins into going to Sharlayan... He seemed like the typical awkward japanese dad who loves his kids but awkward in showing affection sadcarby

stiff charm
weary adder
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is Deinonychus really just mia

carmine basin
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Is that re: Cid and Mikoto?

stiff charm
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yes

torpid yoke
stiff charm
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theyre probably building toward "its been 1 year since the beginning of the 7th astral era"

gaunt star
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damn mikoto will die b4 confessing

stiff charm
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shhhh im only rank 20 cryy

gaunt star
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same

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but u already know of her vision then xD

stiff charm
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vivsmug uh huh

crimson pollen
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Mikoto already shoot her shot - but she chose an horrible time and misfired. it's over now

stiff charm
gaunt star
carmine basin
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Also her rival is Nero and she's not going to win because unlike Nero she can't build stuff with Cid

stiff charm
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implying cid wouldnt date both of them at the same time

gaunt star
crimson pollen
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Yeah, the most wronged hero of the game. Bitches dont even acknowledge ShB wodlnt even exist if my boi didnt save G'raha ass. They don't even make a small mention of him. Such disrespect.

gaunt star
gloomy shale
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Is there a rough estimate on how long the last relic step takes?

chrome sundial
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Ohhhh fuck that ||name drop|| in the 2nd MSQ

chilly bluff
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"It bears mentioning that Fabineau is no relation of Sartauvoir, who shares the same surname─one commonly used in Mannatheihwo." haha

torpid yoke
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Rommy

bold condor
torpid yoke
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Did you do it again

bold condor
torpid yoke
carmine basin
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Is that a hint to the lv 90 skill?!?!?! /s

torpid yoke
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Again. Wol should get cool special to them attacks

wheat agate
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why didnt they make this an emote

torpid yoke
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I say bring in cross job actions >:/

cosmic herald
gaunt cradle
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oh so the raptor is from the final dungeon chest

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so I have zero chance of getting it great

stiff charm
bold condor
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Fourchenault, I believe.

stiff charm
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oh yeah

gaunt cradle
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I wanna know what theme the Al-iklil mount plays I hope its the queens theme if it is then i'll actually put major effort into gathering those notes

gaunt star
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whats so surprising about a name we ve known for years MONKERS

prisma vine
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what's the al-iklil, the bike?

gaunt cradle
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yeah

stiff charm
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best we can do is borderless, please look forward to it

torpid yoke
stiff charm
gaunt star
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no

bold condor
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Nope. Ameliance is a new name.

torpid yoke
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Didn't think so

bold condor
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She probably named them both, you know.

gaunt star
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we should go to their house and burn it up

torpid yoke
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Amalice is anima. Bad dad traded her for sharlayan being spared /s

carmine basin
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No please we already have too many dead/missing wives

gaunt star
chrome sundial
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I'm curious to see what events lead to him to take a selfish turn against the world like we saw in the endwalker trailer when Y's was grilling him

crimson pollen
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4chenault is playing Itachi chess. Wait and see.

chrome sundial
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Oh well I suppose there's my answer lol

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He's got a good voice

mighty light
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Pretty sure his reasoning isn't going to be selfish
Doubt it's going to be good, but.

carmine basin
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I want him to lecture me the importance of not intervening in war

crimson pollen
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Gonna be like that

mighty light
echo orbit
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for a nation of scholars they sure are dumb

carmine basin
#

Isn't it more he made the war worse

bold condor
#

Did he? I only remember him saying Louisoix's reaction was to go to war.

carmine basin
#

Fanning the flames of war or something

bold condor
#

Which is the rational response to a foe who won't be talked down or persuaded, mind.

maiden lodge
crimson pollen
#

Matoya gonna leave her cave at last to beat them some sense. Wait and see.

mighty light
chrome sundial
#

WHAT THE HELLL

#

Jesus he just fucking...holy moly

mighty light
#

Yeppppp

subtle pasture
#

Reads the Dabog II notes

#

Sets down Bozjan field records
goes into a corner
sits

mint axle
#

On the first set of adds in Dalriada, top and bottom can't see each other's yells since they're in different rooms, so they're foced to use shout

maiden lodge
#

Hang on I need someone geographically inclined

#

How close is Zadnor to Moraby Drydocks, because these muthafuckas be trying to build this ship HARD.

subtle pasture
#

||Sicinius made multiple Dabogs... by extracting his memories... then modifying other hrothgar prisoners to resemble him...||

severe brook
#

Someone’s got a bit of an obsession

crimson pollen
#

f me..... twitter trying to give a dark spin on mother. Goddamn... leave her alone 😢

open verge
#

Someone @ me what level for dalriada

severe brook
gaunt star
open verge
#

What level does it end

subtle pasture
gaunt star
#

whenever u can run DR if i remember

open verge
#

Dalriada is zadnor amigo

gaunt star
#

oh

odd yoke
gaunt star
#

isnt it rank 25 for that? thonk

severe brook
#

That was a horrifying explanation for ||a seemingly respawning enemy||

torpid yoke
prime zinc
#

Did not expect that ending to the zadnor questline

gaunt star
#

did mikoto die? thonk

torpid yoke
#

flees

gaunt star
prime zinc
#

||no ...||

gaunt star
silk cape
#

shit yall gonna make me go play it now when I still got work to do

cosmic herald
#

||Now I've seen a post epilogue cutscene of that glowing figure and I heard her seiyuu before||

silk cape
#

only done MSQ so far but at least on that space i'm legit

subtle pasture
#

Oh boo, Radovan doesn't have any new dialogue after Zadnor.

tired folio
#

Does anyone know where to get all that artwork during the credits?

slate tangle
#

do we know how many memories the new bozja dungeon gives forthe last step?

prime zinc
#

4th step is not the last one right

silk cape
#

One thing I'm certain of re: Fourchenault ||the Sharlayans are 100% certain they know how the world is going to end, which is why they won't interfere in any wars that take place, because they know that none of those wars will be the one that destroys the world. But they've also been assured that if they do anything that jeopardizes the end they've foreseen coming to pass, the alternative is far FAR worse.||
To draw a comparison with Avengers Infinity War/Endgame ||it's Dr. Strange intentionally giving Thanos the Time Stone because he found the one scenario where doing so resulted in Thanos being defeated... and he knew that if Tony knew he would be forced to sacrifice himself, he'd try to find a way out of it, and none of THOSE scenarios would succeed.||

gaunt star
acoustic hornet
#

can anyone confirm if hoh is 100% drop for raw emotions?

gaunt cradle
#

mini gunnhildir might displace mini tifa as my minion of choice

carmine basin
#

Gunhildr is hot

thorny flax
#

||"The moon will enter Earth’s shadow and turn a blood red color during a total lunar eclipse on May 26." ||no fucking way

carmine basin
#

LOL

thorny flax
#

There's no way they planned this

next quarry
#

LMAO

thorny flax
#

It's also known as super blood moon

kindred rampart
prime zinc
#

Is there a list of which normal raids are the shortest?

gaunt star
#

no

cosmic herald
#

lunar eclipse comes a day after patch day. coincidence?

raw kiln
#

war
war never changes

faint dagger
# gaunt star spoil it in spoiler tags for me ty

did you not get a reply?

||we fight menenius's allagan weapon. menenius dies. Save the Queen breaks its own confinement to remind Misija of the Queen's duty to Bozja, and frees her. she manifests the Queen again, and alongside the primal Queen, charges the Queenmobile into the Weapon as it attempts to destroy Zadnor. misija basically dies and has bajsaljen mercy kill her||

gaunt star
faint dagger
faint dagger
#

no i'm not joking that's just how it went

gaunt star
crimson pollen
#

ITs funny how she says "we be meeting again by Dalmasca, soon" more Matsuno inc, bby

cosmic herald
#

oh right ||The moon turned orange during the MSQ||

subtle pasture
faint dagger
#

Also re: end of Zadnor questline - is Gabranth implying he's dying? I don't get any of the context from previous games, btw

gaunt star
#

grab the moonnn

pine epoch
#

Why does Famfrit Skirmish play the FF12 Zodiac Age Boss theme. while Belias, Shemhazai, and Hashmal CEs play the regular CE battle music.

faint dagger
#

i'd say cause haha ridorana but that would apply to belias and hashmal

subtle pasture
faint dagger
#

that seems likely. thank you

chilly bluff
#

Which, yeah, if I remember correctly, Noah is around the same age that Basch was when he died. Or close to it at least

faint dagger
#

also does anyone have a rip of the last boss of dalriada's music cause i need that again rq

lunar hound
#

wait, when was the decision for Anogg vs Konogg for the end of the Dark Apocalypse quests?

chilly bluff
#

Just after Factory

#

Way back in part 1

lunar hound
#

I don't remember which one I picked...

chilly bluff
#

It'll be in your journal. "Heads (I Win)" is Konogg I believe and "Tails (You Lose)" is Anogg.

lunar hound
#

...anyone have the two endings on YT yet?

torpid yoke
#

As in we see it was forced

lunar hound
#

apparently I got ending E...don't know if that's the case for both endings

maiden lodge
#

Inb4 'Don't worry it actually gets good after you go through it through new game+ twice, and 18 weeks of letters'

#

'And by good, do you mean, it's worth it?' 'No.'

wheat agate
#

you just dont understand his vision

viscid monolith
#

That Belias CE was a fucking massacre

#

Bodies everywhere. I miss that sight.

maiden lodge
#

Some of these CEs are murder, it's great

viscid monolith
#

Btw how are they recreating Lucavii?

maiden lodge
#

Lucavi are primal-like things made by using auracites so, probably using auracites

torpid yoke
#

Ultima auricite left behind maybe?

viscid monolith
#

Are the Lucavii not tailored to the holder of the Auracite?

knotty flicker
#

Is the new sidetail hairstyle available through Bozja?

maiden lodge
#

Actual red mage villain let's go

somber storm
#

Only available from bozja

knotty flicker
#

Gotcha thank you!

faint dagger
#

I’m honestly somewhat let down it’s been 12 hours and still i’ve met nobody who knows to not be a coward against that rdm skirmish in the top zone

grave raft
#

lovro?

viscid monolith
#

Wow the IVth really went full evil kinda quick

faint dagger
#

the 4th really encapsulate ā€˜ends justify means’ in bozja

torpid yoke
#

I mean that's not so surprising considering the 4th allows sicinius

proud magnet
#

||SE wanted to promote 5.55 so bad the damn moon is orange tonight||

viscid monolith
#

Is tonight the blood moon?

kindred rampart
maiden lodge
#

oh yeah, primal stuff drops in lockboxes

forest magnet
pine epoch
#

Also Sartuvoir didn't die in BSF

torpid yoke
pine epoch
#

dalriada 1st boss

severe brook
#

Yeah he apparently survived the Southern Front

#

Also on the subject of how they’re getting more Lucavi in Zadnor ||the guy who became Cuchulainn had a sliver of Auracite that he’d been using to transform his followers.||

heady shadow
#

tfw its gonna be a blood moon and like i thought it was gonna be raining the entire time

crystal arrow
chilly bluff
#

Oh shit it's panini

crystal arrow
#

ahhh that's pazuzu

somber storm
#

Panana

chilly bluff
#

In Zadnor? edgeypaissa

gaunt star
#

Skoll is there too

#

And the skills are ripped from eureka too i think

severe brook
#

On a side note, I think the confluences from the Carteneau instance might also be telling us what that big nebula-like mass over the planet that we saw in the Amaurot dungeon was.

slate ridge
#

Apparently alphinaud has to make another crystal braves esque group again?

maiden lodge
#

What... is Garlean Synthetic Fabric for...

carmine basin
#

Damn I can't believe the lunar eclipse is there to promote EW /s

viscid monolith
#

Increases Action Pouch space

proud magnet
#

Moons speaking critically acclaimed mmorpg

pine epoch
#

Spoilers for Noah van gabranth field note Post Zadnor story spoiler ||Apparently, he is killed by Lyon in a EXTREMELY brutal way. And sets castrum valnain on fire. and the corpse of supposed Gabranth is to mutilated to tell the identity of. But also in post story cutscene Sinicus arrives with another artifact for Gabranth, and the Gabranth family has a hereditary illness. Soooooo.... Leaving the doors open for the story to continue but not in the way we think since technically Dalmasca is also freed by proxy?||

tight marlin
slate ridge
#

Like a small grand company of sort?

somber storm
#

The Grand Company of Eorzea

slate ridge
#

maybe like a small group?

tight marlin
#

nothing of the sort at all

slate ridge
#

its been a while since i remember crystal braves

pine epoch
tight marlin
kindred rampart
#

so Bozja isn't quite conclusive?

pine epoch
#

Return to Ivalice, Save the Queen, ???

chilly bluff
#

...oh god what if this is how we get Fortress?

kindred rampart
#

unless more Ivalice based content is gonna be a part of endwalkers relic quests again

crimson pollen
gaunt star
#

Hello ! how many items required for the new relic quests specifically in "A fond memory", "Spare parts" and "Tell me a story." Thanks in advance.

kindred rampart
#

if we got a region I imagine they would have teased it during fanfest

tight marlin
kindred rampart
#

wasn't it implied ||he's like family to them?||

severe brook
#

My personal guess is ||Noah had Lyon fake his death so that he can calculate the impact of his approaching death due to illness, instead of it sneaking up on him. This way he’ll get a chance to ensure Dalmasca follows his ideals too, and even if he dies for real his plan won’t suddenly collapse because everyone already thinks he’s dead.||

gaunt cradle
#

ok posted in the wrong channel

crimson pollen
#

The notes pretty much give it away as a ruse - they say ppl are really suspicious of it, as well

gaunt cradle
#

but yeah 4th make belias is turbo cancer

#

I dunno what dev thought three bombs that turn like 6 times for a massive cone aoe was a good idea

#

but fuck them shits aids

maiden lodge
kindred rampart
#

@severe brook ||so planned martyrdom without actually dying?|| galaxybrain

maiden lodge
#

It turns 90 degrees 6 times, that's a 360 turn and a 180 turn in total.

severe brook
#

It’s also really weird for how some of the field notes are set a decent ways ahead in the future.

gaunt cradle
rain onyx
#

All part of the learning process!

maiden lodge
pine epoch
kindred rampart
#

anyone starting off relatively low in the new Bozja region see any decent increases for getting rank ups?

rain onyx
#

I noticed it after the 2nd death to it and it still messed me up when other things were happening

severe brook
slate ridge
#

i feel like persuading sharlayan will be like ishgard again where you try to gain trust

rain onyx
slate ridge
#

especially because fourchenaault disowned his kids i think

maiden lodge
severe brook
turbid bough
#

So a theory I just had about who 'the dreamer' is:
If it's not Varis being used to temper people to Garlemald as a whole, and Zenos didn't start to refer to himself in the third person, we have one other case of someone being associated with dreaming in a major way.

"My slumbering brethren, dream now of a dark tomorrow"

The Amuarites that Hades invokes to boost his power and make himself bigger from phase 1 to phase 2 of the fight. So the spirit of an Ancient remembering the Final Days could potentially be the dreamer.

crimson pollen
#

Fran pretty much sets it up in the end with "we might be meeting again, soon"

slate ridge
#

I imagine one of the first thing you have to do in endwalker is persuade sharlayan

pine epoch
#

when I am done with watching videos and memes I'll talk about this more in depth

heady shadow
#

if anything him disowning his kids makes it easier for us to move and for him to do whatever secret p,lans hes doing without telling people, as the twins so put it.

steel swan
#

guys, what's the mount in Zadnor?

kindred rampart
#

something tells me Sharlayans big secret will be more commonly known than Ishgards by the end
"Great now the entire world will know we're assholes!"

slate ridge
#

Which I know sucks for the twins

carmine basin
#

The 2 seater bike you get from collecting all reports thingy

alpine hollow
steel swan
#

raptor? hmm

dusk slate
#

i didn't realize we needed to do 180 raids for the resistance weapon grind until i got 30 axles and saw i couldn't turn the quest in

#

feelsbad

kindred rampart
#

no animations yet for obvious reasons

slate ridge
carmine basin
#

@bold condor Zenos scythe above

somber storm
#

Now that I see it properly it now, it definitely won't be diamond scythe

heady shadow
dusk slate
#

now everyone can just call them "Alphinaud" and "Alisae"....oh wait

bold condor
#

it's sexy

crimson pollen
#

I wonder what Yoshida meant by Zenos only becoming a reaper in second half of EW? Isnt he already a reaper now?

carmine basin
#

How tf does the bullet thingy work tho (idk what it's called)

severe brook
#

It’s such a mess I love it

tough fern
#

||Fourch: I am NOT your dad||

bold condor
#

Didn't he say second half of the MSQ? As in the 5.5 MSQ?

somber storm
#

Well we haven't seen Zenos' Avatar yet

heady shadow
#

Otherwise there is no reason for him to show up at all when he could have let another Envoy do the same thing for him.

tough fern
#

But Dad-

dusk slate
wheat agate
#

okay i need to get this off my chest god damn
||they really need to give lyse and hien some love like really bad. we're literally at lyse's capital and she doesnt say or do anything and hien hasnt been relevant in years. grand company of EORZEA and he couldnt even make a statement about him being from othard or something sly/snarky? where the hell is yugiri? where are the turtle beast tribes at the event? why does square enix hate the asian expansion so much jesus christ|| i miss gosetsu

tough fern
#

I Am NOT your dad

carmine basin
#

Me: I'm the dad now

turbid bough
crimson pollen
grave elm
#

Tali be my dad

slate ridge
#

ā€œI have no son. This isn’t my houseā€

carmine basin
#

I'm adopting the twins

oak pike
#

man there are no tanks in zandor

tough fern
#

Dad straight up saying I disown my kids

#

Lol this is great

kindred rampart
slate ridge
#

Fourchenalt must’ve heard his kids are involved and upon realizing they side with eorzea, dis owned them

dusk slate
#

||"you remind me of my father. I hate my father!"||

tight marlin
#

sounding like a proper garlean uwucarby

wheat agate
#

im your daddy now come here son

kindred rampart
slate ridge
#

I guess he came to tell the forum’s message and maybe the fact that the twins side with eorzea a message of disownment

tough fern
#

Fourch returning to his wife: Honey I disowned our kids and told them they can die

#

mom:

half phoenix
#

Just wait, we arrive and there’s boxes infront of the Levelieur mansion

kindred rampart
carmine basin
#

I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND THAT CAJ

tough fern
#

I like how Graha is just like yeah......this is nothing new

#

Lol

crystal arrow
#

wasn't there something about estinien's last name not being wyrmblood somewhere? maybe that has something to do with this haha

wary perch
#

I think of the Hong Kong scene in Batman the dark knight when I heard the father is in grindania and I knew what he going to said

carmine basin
#

My exact sentiment honestly

kindred rampart
tough fern
#

Due to all the paperwork and arrangements that must be done it will take Krile approximately 6 months to secure our entry into Sharlayan

weary rampart
#

30 times e12 vivsmug

carmine basin
weary rampart
#

even i will lose my memory faster

chilly bluff
crystal arrow
tough fern
#

@.@?

heady shadow
kindred rampart
slate ridge
#

what if there's a hidden reason why alphy and ali got disowned

tulip geyser
#

I think elfdad is playing the gigabrain game.

dusk slate
#

don't forget about her hints of what to do pre expansion drop if you want to understand some things in endwalker

maiden lodge
#

Orrrr... Fourchenault is really doubling down on the attitude he had that caused the kids to leave in the first place, and sincerely means that he'd wished they'd mellowed out in their travels and wanted to return home.

turbid bough
#

I'm thinking the Dragons not being from the main star is going to play some sort of factor.

crystal arrow
tough fern
#

And now for ShB's finale and sendoff

next quarry
#

I wanna

crimson pollen
#

Mommy's mask

next quarry
#

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa give me this fucking hair

slate ridge
#

Who knows what’s going on inside daddy leveillur

carmine basin
#

Desire sensor aza

slate ridge
#

But for now, people are busy signing adoption papers

carmine basin
kindred rampart
# turbid bough I'm thinking the Dragons not being from the main star is going to play some sort...

https://www.pcgamer.com/final-fantasy-14s-naoki-yoshida-teases-whats-to-come-after-endwalker/?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_medium=social

"With the 10 year-plus history, we were able to tie up a lot of loose ends and with the climax there will be more questions that are answered and people will understand the reasoning behind a lot of things that have been present throughout the story," Yoshida told me. "With that being said, there are areas within planet Hydaelyn where we haven't explored yet. There are continents that have yet to be discovered, areas that have yet to be explored. There's possibilities there. And with the story of Shadowbringers, we learned that the Crystal Tower acts as a portal not just to the distant Realms, including The First and those that have been divided by the Sundered, but it can also allow us to travel in time as well so we can go back to the past and future as well. So there's still a lot of possibilities left."

pcgamer

Yoshida also strongly recommends players replay the main story quests again to prep for Endwalker's big finale.

gloomy shale
#

lol

chrome sundial
#

Arenvald :(((

slate ridge
#

And arnevald is retired

kindred rampart
#

they're likely gonna play a massive role with helping to take down the towers with the possibility of traveling to dragonstar wide open down the line

crimson pollen
#

Arenvald is gonna go all Professor X on us. He'll play the psych games.

chrome sundial
#

Do we think the starting areas are gonna get some kinda big makeover? Ala WoW’sCataclysm

heady shadow
#

people want to adopt the twins so much they dont care that dad disowned them since thats what they been waiting for this whole time mwhahahahahahhahaha

drowsy belfry
#

@subtle pasture so || Fran just showed up on a flying bike and saved Mikoto || bad bitch alert

crystal arrow
#

yoshi-p is a big fan of wow, and cata was widely hated by players because of the changes to the world

carmine basin
#

I just realized why the bozja bike seem so familiar. Same bike as ff12 lol. I couldn't put my finger on it before

dusk slate
#

time travel is lazy story telling. i hope that's not the route they go

crystal arrow
#

there's absolutely zero reason for it anyways since there's still two continents and a shitton of other places we haven't even seen

crystal arrow
gloomy shale
#

time travel is 7.0?

crystal arrow
#

If we go time travel give me a fucking war of the magi expac, thanks.

gloomy shale
#

Time mage confirmed 7.0?

heady shadow
#

iirc ffxi players liked the time travel.....

carmine basin
#

We're gonna travel back in time to 1.0.

You want FFXIV Classic? You will get your wish.

crimson pollen
#

damn, theres already mommy fanart around. MOTHER CHURCH IS OPEN

unreal hound
#

so the death before the dawn were some unnamed foot soldiers angery

chrome sundial
#

Also take your pick
Who’s gonna bite the bullet in 6.0

gloomy shale
#

everyone

rancid turtle
#

Did we ever get an answer to what happened to the ending of eden. The whole crystarium carnival that Ryne and Gaia invite you to, walk to and then vanish never to be seen again

forest magnet
#

I'm gonna wait for the "art" to show up.

severe brook
forest magnet
#

So never.

rancid turtle
#

It's so jarring I honestly thought I missed a quest back on 5.4 launch.

carmine basin
#

Maaaaybe 5.58...?

rancid turtle
#

I guess they are saving it for uniting gaia/ryne with the ragtag 13th team

crystal arrow
rancid turtle
#

Scions of the First or whatever

forest magnet
#

lmao rip

severe brook
#

The C Team

tough fern
#

So Alphy definitely becoming Sage just so he can heal Arenvald

#

No other reason

forest magnet
#

You know I thought Fourchenault would come give Alphinaud his Nouliths.
Instead he disowns him.
Wow.

rancid turtle
#

Is there any cute fordola looking after wheelchair arenvald fanart yet?

somber storm
#

Also becoming Sage to one up his dad

tough fern
#

Fordola still keeping up the Tsun act

heady shadow
dusk slate
#

i'm becoming sage to one up my gaming experience

tough fern
#

She'll crack eventually

crimson pollen
#

I wonder if Fandaniel gonna show up just to assassinate the whole forum - it'd be neat

rancid turtle
#

I half expect the twins to do ff4 twins, nearly kill themselves/stone or whatever, then Fourchenault does what the sage does in ff4 and kills himself trying to avenge/save them.

severe brook
#

While it seems Anima is more likely to be connected to Garlemald, my old theory was that she’d be a Sharlayan Primal made to govern Labyrinthos only for Fandaniel to show up and temper the Forum right as they summoned her

forest magnet
#

Eh, even though the expansion utilizes FF4 elements I don't expect it'll use the same story beats. That would be...cheap.

severe brook
#

Or that Fourchenault would do the corruption himself if he’d been possessed

severe brook
tulip geyser
#

Sharlayan is way more concerned about dipping than doing anything like that it seems.
I mean jeez, at least Amaurot was like, doing research and didnt pretend that stuff wasnt on fire.

forest magnet
#

They at least had Azem.

rancid turtle
#

@severe brook I actually didnt think of that, thats a good point

forest magnet
#

But why would Fourchenault literally come all that way just to say "no" and to disown his kids.

#

That seems not worth the effort when he could just leave them on read.

severe brook
#

Granted it seems implied that Sharlayan is doing research too. Also, you say this like the Twins/the Scions as a whole aren’t the Azem analogue for Sharlayan.

crimson pollen
#

Only Azem was concerned for the overall world, tho, taking opinions and meeting outsiders. Amaurotians themselves thought oblivious to strangers.

tulip geyser
carmine basin
#

I think he's trying to agitate the twins/scions on purpose so they'd come

rancid turtle
#

@forest magnet what even was azem doing during final days when amaurot was busy sacrificing themselves for gods. thats the story I wanna know

sudden herald
#

Can you get the new relics without the glows for glam purposes?

forest magnet
tulip geyser
#

But yeah that was way too much effort to be like "lol no"

gaunt star
gaunt star
crimson pollen
cobalt pendant
#

so, i'm missing two field notes, meryall and mesenius 2, any idea where?

forest magnet
#

Venat/Hydaelyn's appearance at the end seemed more pointless than anything, like we know how big the stakes are here we don't need Hydaelyn telling us that...

austere bear
#

So is venat going on adventures with us or gonna be ghostly like Ardbert?

somber storm
#

yes

dim sigil
#

I mean when is the last time we heard from her

crimson pollen
dim sigil
#

And now she's showing up physically

rancid turtle
#

@crimson pollen ngl I still dont trust Hydaelyn or Venat. all primals must go. like why would azem willingly do that to the planet.

forest magnet
#

"Darkness comes, and with it, the end."
"Wow Hydaelyn that really tells me a lot thanks."

gaunt star
#

Heavensward was the last time IIRC

knotty flicker
#

Means she knows that shit will hit the fan soon xD

austere bear
#

well i would like to hear her perspective about the Final Days

carmine basin
#

As in showing up physically to help us

knotty flicker
#

But people will tolerate Venat cause she cute or something like that

forest magnet
#

I mean look at Emet Selch

austere bear
#

We heard Emet Selch's tale. I wonder did she agreed to the summoning of Zordiak to stop it

forest magnet
#

It's not like they had any choice at that point.

tulip geyser
#

The Venat name has a bit of baggage for me to jump on the "O boi, Mom" train just yet.
XII Venat ultimately wanted to help but that didnt stop her from being hella manipulative.
At least with the Ascian tag along you always knew to be cautious.

carmine basin
#

She's not set up as a villain like Emet-Selch tho, that'd be Damndaniel and Zenos

chrome sundial
#

What class is Alisae? This feels so great to play

crimson pollen
#

She made an indirect warning you should suspect something bigger is coming other than just towers doing stuff - theres more to it than meets the eye

gaunt star
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Fannydan*

knotty flicker
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Dumbdaniel

turbid bough
chrome sundial
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Whatttttt

forest magnet
chrome sundial
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Shit..i might have to pick up red mag- oh

echo orbit
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why do they always do this weird vague shit, if the world's that important be straight damn it@

carmine basin
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Inb4 ppl gonna ask for the combo buttons that Scions have to be implemented to the actual jobs deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp

chrome sundial
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Is it possible to stack actions for combos like they do in these role plays?

knotty flicker
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RDM is cool except when the healers get mad at you for verraising xD

austere bear
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They trying to suck the aether out of the planet right? no aether no life

echo orbit
rancid turtle
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I wont believe Venat is a good person even to the last second. I cant trust anyone whose response to a hungry manipulative god is to make another one.

knotty flicker
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Alisaie would rather die than go with Estinien

chrome sundial
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Darn it!

echo orbit
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a verraising rdm = more glares for whm

gaunt star
#

MORE GLARE

tough fern
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This battle has checkpoints

knotty flicker
tough fern
forest magnet
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Like fuckin tell me something I don't know Hydaelyn it's gonna be 6 long ass months.

carmine basin
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Please look forward to it

maiden lodge
knotty flicker
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I'm like "I'm just trying to help!"

austere bear
#

dumb theory time?

echo orbit
tulip geyser
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I will always hug a RDM that actually helps

carmine basin
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I personally think they don't have to reveal anything beside setting up for the expansion

crimson pollen
carmine basin
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Lest the fandom spins whatever is shown to something totally different and get disappointed when they found out what it actually means in 6.0

austere bear
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Venat made the blueprint on how to create Zordiak which is why she knew how to counter it with the few dissidants she has - dumb theory

knotty flicker
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Imagine if Gra'ha told us who he was at the beginning

gaunt star
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If shit is hitting fan and I have a RDM helping me rez, that RDM gets my com (and bfs if we are partied) and a hug

forest magnet
tough fern
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Good thing I get checkpoints because i'll eff this up somehow

forest magnet
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She wasn't the architect either that was Lahabread

austere bear
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true it was dumb. but she should have some personal connection with one of them atleast

carmine basin
#

Mogfan are you misremembering the Anamnesis Anyder scene? That building had nothing to do with Convocation, that was Akadaemia Anyder

tulip geyser
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Can I skip to fall?
I hate summer anyway.

knotty flicker
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I'm sure Venat favors us cause we knew each other in the past

forest magnet
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SE at least give me the battle figurines.

carmine basin
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Venat as far as we know have no connection to Convocation

austere bear
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maybe elidibus was her kid. idk explains why he hates hydaelyn so much

turbid bough
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So a random thought I had while rewatching the trailer for the hundreth time:
What if Emet-Selch with is penchant for nation building helped make Sharlyan in some way? (Or any other Ascian I suppose.)

They have knowledge that by all rights should be lost to history, seem confident about the Final Days, and know where Hydalen is.

Reason I say Emet in particular is because he narrates the Endwalker trailer so I suspect his influence will be felt in some way, but also because he says that he genuinely tried to live with sundered beings but was disappointed each and every time. I can see him making a city where 'everyone is equal and has a voice, in the pursuit of knowledge' and being disgusted and disappointed yet again when it fails to live up to his impossible standards of being Amaurot.

gaunt star
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Oh also, I’m probably late to this, but I did it hours ago, but...

HOLY FUCK I ADORED HOW PRINCESS RAVANA LOOKED šŸ˜šŸ˜

austere bear
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Sharlyan was WoL created because he built a boat

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it was a nice boat

grave elm
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boat

knotty flicker
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Reminds me of the old Eden theories xD

gaunt star
crimson pollen
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One thing is for sure, Azem didnt really stay on the fence till the end. Not like everything was happening and happened and Azem was like away all the time - planet was sundered and Azem afk, certainly not. At some point Azem had a say either way.

knotty flicker
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When Garuda was gonna be a jet plane.

And the Knights of the Twelve would appear mixed with King Moogle Mog

austere bear
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I beleive the WoL at the time was close friend who turned into an Ascian

tough fern
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Oh this theme

forest magnet
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It's pretty stupid that the Ascians would found a nation that ended up producing people that would kill their bretheren in unprecedented numbers.

tough fern
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Getting The First flashbacks

next quarry
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finally

tough fern
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Saving Ryne

gaunt star
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There’s a reason I call Ravana, Princess Ravana....

tough fern
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Saving the Crystarium

echo orbit
austere bear
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Azem always wanted to rally everyone to save everyone though. which is what were always doing

grave elm
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Ravana cute

turbid bough
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Yeah it took someone from Sharlyan to find out how to actually kill an Ascian. The first Ascian death was like right during ARR.

austere bear
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half the scions are from there too

gaunt star
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All of them no?

forest magnet
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all of them except us and tataru

gaunt star
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The big ones anyway

austere bear
#

also disowning the twins means they are free from sharlyan politics?

grave elm
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All the scions with white hair are from there

tulip geyser
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I'd love if an Ascian never actually got a chance to bother Sharlyan (cause they have defenses or such) and this is just plain old human jerkery going on.

forest magnet
gaunt star
forest magnet
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G'raha Tia has red hair ahem

austere bear
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They were still under their father's supervision. only now they are truly free

turbid bough
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Pretty sure all of them but Minfillia, Tataru and us from the original group?
Thancred, Y'shtola, Papalymo, and Yda?

G'raha is also from there.

arctic siren
#

Do level 70 dungeons drop the relic item every time/100% :X ? For the last step

forest magnet
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Not really no. They operated under no supervision actually.

severe brook
forest magnet
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Krile didn't even let him know his kids were about to fucking die.

carmine basin
grave elm
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Graha dyed his hair obvi

austere bear
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tbf she didn't tell their mom either

gaunt star
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I’m choosing to ignore the pic, because #VieraLimitations and MAJOR jealousy ;3;

crimson pollen
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Still no thank you words for Nero to save Graha ass

austere bear
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Nero is just Tsundere

slate ridge
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"rejoice in the glory of combat"

carmine basin
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Mom is gonna hear about dad disowning the kids and come running with their new clothes

turbid bough
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I fucking love Nero, but how did he escape from the Void to show up to get Omega?

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Did they ever explain that?

carmine basin
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"how dare he say that! your dad is stupid. i'm gonna take u guys to mcdonalds"

forest magnet
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Uh Cid rescued him.

austere bear
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yea and he was in the infirmatory the whole time

gaunt cradle
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ok so like did I miss something did it ever explain why oboro and tsubme are there other than through the notes and skirmishes?

crimson pollen
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Yeah, no Graha, no ShB, no First saved if it wasnt by the hero Nero saving Graha in the Void

turbid bough
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Oh it's legitimately been over a year since I did those quests and forgot about that

austere bear
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in the world of darkness? cid saved his ass

turbid bough
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Cool, thank you

austere bear
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watch it in the inn. It has nero's best tsundere moment

knotty flicker
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I bet dad never tells their mom what he did and instead cuts off all communication with them

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Then acts like the twins forgot about them or something

severe brook
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Fourchenault just goes back to Sharlayan and tells outrageous lies to cover what he’s done

austere bear
#

also whats the pieces on the table transition? is there more than what we know?

severe brook
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ā€œWhere are the kids?ā€
ā€œThey...died. Tragically and suddenly. Already buried.ā€

heady shadow
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i feel like I already seen this type of plotline before so...... im not too worried

austere bear
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though i think we get approved to go to Sharylan because of him

knotty flicker
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I hope mom kicks his ass when she finds out

forest magnet
knotty flicker
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Oh well if he approves it then nvm lol

#

I want a mini figure of my character

austere bear
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me too

knotty flicker
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Like in the cutscene lol

crimson pollen
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4chenault be playin Elon Musk BitCoin chess. We just know it.

austere bear
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maybe he had to be very brutal infront of a political leader to have a witness

knotty flicker
#

The pose for the figure worked for my character definitely as well xD

tough fern
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Oh sweet heavens not Odin

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Nooooooo

tulip geyser
#

The Odin part was probably my favorite.

wary perch
#

Who summoned Odin though

tough fern
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And I have to heal?? I've never healed in my life xD

wary perch
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Dude just roam around grindania

tulip geyser
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But then I am AST so I was comfortable I guess

severe brook
tight marlin
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U know the funny thing about the Odin fight
Urianger did damage with his cards
U DO DAMAGE WITH THE CARDS

crimson pollen
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Its obvious they're saving the best for last: Lunar King Moggle Mog

austere bear
#

but Fandaniel is literally just hovering there

severe brook
#

Magic Papercuts can be deadly

maiden lodge
dusk slate
#

i might just marathon this resistance weapon tbh

olive swan
#

Has anyone watched Jericho? If so... i really want a moment with Fourchenault that is like Mayor Green's moment with Gray Anderson....

turbid bough
#

I really liked that the healer part has an enrage

grave elm
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i want to hover with fandaniel

tulip geyser
#

Fandaniel was very chill with this whole big thing failing. Almost as if it would have been cool if it worked, but he doesnt care if it doesnt, he just wants an excuse so Zenos doesnt cut his head off early.

turbid bough
#

So they force people to dps with a healer, because we all know that's an issue with some people

wary perch
#

Barely made it with Odin lol

knotty flicker
#

I stumbled on the Break part lol.

"I can't find Break!"

turbid bough
polar mortar
#

Fandaniel is clearly Sin guys. yoshisrsly

austere bear
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that anima scream though

tulip geyser
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I think hes certainly more clever than he's let on. Hes subtly pushing Zenos a little further and further to do things.

austere bear
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FFX + FFIV = FFXIV

maiden lodge
grave elm
crimson pollen
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Zenos is really going full hypeman for this rematch with the WoL, tho.

turbid bough
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Oh yeah, I think Zenos works really well as a 'dragon' to someone else when it comes to story telling.

Zenos can't really push a plot himself in my opinion, but with someone like Fandaniel manipulating him (even if Zenos admits he knows what Fandaniel is doing) is interesting.

dim sigil
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Zenos just wants a good time and following fandan will help with that

austere bear
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well Fandaniel needs muscle and what better person than with the 2nd strongest person in the game

grave elm
olive swan
#

If Zenos is The Dragon... who is our Lancer? or is it really that obvious...

tough fern
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I almost lost @.@

turbid bough
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Yeah I really REALLY want Zenos to get curbstombed this expansion.
Like Zodiark eats him or something.

carmine basin
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Which fight Tali

tough fern
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Odin

knotty flicker
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Knowing Zenos he'll merge with Zodiark lol

severe brook
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It’s really that obvious, given Estinien is based on one of the most well-known Lancers in gaming

austere bear
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He has all that darkness

crimson pollen
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Yeah, Zenos even had the dark aura for some seconds in him this time - he going full nuts

austere bear
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But he doesn't ride along the moon with us. in the trailer atleast

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Having space adventures to meet Zordiak with Venat

knotty flicker
#

Estinien is better than Kain for me personally

turbid bough
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Yeah Zenos wants to merge with Zodiark but I want Zodiark to take Zenos over instead of the other way around.

Zodiark is the primal of Salvation after all, while Zenos wants a fight. Shinryu didn't really have something like 'Salvation' as its driving force.

knotty flicker
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Maybe cause he isn't after Rosa obsessively like Kain was xD

severe brook
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Yeah that part helps a lot

stiff charm
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estinien is tsundere for krile 100%

austere bear
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hey they both wants cecil's dick

crimson pollen
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Eureka showed Krile just needs the superior Ejika Tsunjika - he shoulda join Scions and show how it is done

cosmic herald
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sprites drop fragments

austere bear
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I see they want to summon Zordiak with the final days with the people in the source yearn for salvation

knotty flicker
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Also Estinien was against us outside of his control. Kain did it like twice all by himself lol

maiden lodge
turbid bough
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Or better yet, Fandaniel says he is aiming Zenos towards Zodiark but instead aims Zenos to Hydalen so we have to use Zodiark as the stars Salvation one more time.

cosmic herald
#

anyone got a spot for where sprites spawn during weather

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need to know where they spawn and what rank they are

olive swan
crimson pollen
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Let's not think Zenos is 15 IQ, tho. At some point he might grow outside Fandango's limit (at least we know Fandango himself, at least in this form, is not making it to the end of the expac)

knotty flicker
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We're the Cecil to Estinien's Kain.

dusk slate
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only 140 more 8 man raids. then i can do 15 alliance raids

knotty flicker
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Especially with the PLD emphasis

austere bear
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but yea i hope Venat isn't a ghost and has an actual form. It would be nice way of humanizing her.

paper dagger
#

... So, just finished the Nier questline and... well it's as confusing as any of the Nier games.

knotty flicker
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And the fact that the previous main job was DRK lol

austere bear
#

yep nier announcement in e3 maybe?

dusk slate
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||that person who people are saying is Venat sure sounds like Hydaelyn||

olive swan
tulip geyser
austere bear
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tbf we don't even know Zordiak's voice. but is should share Elidibus

olive swan
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like.... if fandango did anything to jeopardize Zenos lovedeathmatch.... i'm sure he'd get immediately merc'd.

austere bear
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well yea that's his whole reason he went with the plan in the first place

maiden lodge
olive swan
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i mean yeah... but he would like to have everything else burn first.

maiden lodge
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Yeah, but I mean, it's less a setback to him. That's the whole point

kindred rampart
austere bear
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yea he wants to destroy the world first before getting killed.

severe brook
#

their dynamic as villains is fun because both are well aware the other person can and will turn on them in an instant but they benefit each other for the moment so they keep playing this balancing act

austere bear
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cue guiles theme

velvet osprey
#

anyone 25 tryna do dalriada?

knotty flicker
#

Zenos only cares about his best friend

kindred rampart
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I'm really expecting a scenario where fanny danny seriously tries to kill us and zenos helps us

crimson pollen
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It's crazy how the devs treat Zenos so poetically. They made him lay in a "bed" of roses in the end of Stormblood. They really have faith this guy, lol

kindred rampart
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he's an anime supervillain

carmine basin
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He's the Sephiroth of XIV

tough fern
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4 battles down...one more to go...maybe;

severe brook
#

i feel like Fandaniel is smart enough to know that if he gets in Zenos' way he's dying immediately

kindred rampart
severe brook
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which yes, that is his backup plan
but he's got everything else going on first

knotty flicker
#

I mean he's fine with dying anyways lol

maiden lodge
severe brook
#

sephiroth has a character sometimes

carmine basin
#

They both have pretty hair uwucarby

severe brook
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(this sometimes is a charitable interpretation of him in FF7 and Crisis Core)

soft maple
knotty flicker
#

They're both obsessed with the mc

tough fern
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Alphy's Sage arc really being kickstarted by a desire to heal all the things

kindred rampart
dim sigil
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To heal and protect

tough fern
#

It is so weird to see these beast tribes non-tempered now

#

Not used to it-

kindred rampart
carmine basin
#

U didn't do beast tribes Tali?

tough fern
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Some not all

carmine basin
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Since there we deal with ppl who aren't tempered

tough fern
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I know there are branches of each tribe that aren't tempered

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But it's weird seeing the leaders no longer that way

soft maple
#

I have to say...I didn't like the twins much myself.

But I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to doomslayer fourchenault's ass

severe brook
#

Sephiroth's not actually too obsessed with Cloud at first in FF7

austere bear
#

didnt mewlewb kill the sahagin priest

severe brook
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whereas Zenos basically starts being obsessed from the moment we meet

crimson pollen
#

I kinda wish Sezul and my boi Tataramu showed up to the meeting on their airship 😢

tough fern