retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[sour perch]

do enough DPS

[crimson pollen]

Damn, what does Venat say to you by the lake? Do we marry? Does she say she loves you? Friendzone 4eva?

[unkempt spire]

@gaunt star do we need to really say it ?

[quick blade]

more dps

[neon dove]

@next vault By killing it

[balmy mesa]

can confirm this

[lunar oar]

They are

[steel swan]

Any weapon pic?

[ember steeple]

just have people do dps and don't be super undergeared doing it

[eternal sail]

@gaunt star im lying though

[stark perch]

Where are the dyeable versions of the af4 weapons

[stiff charm]

[merry osprey]

just kill it fast

[next vault]

Oh, seriously? That's crazy

[gray cobalt]

Go in with six dps

[drowsy belfry]

Edited

[vital timber]

The DRK relic looks pretty much like Tsukuyomi's odachi, but less feminine in it's design.

[restive mountain]

the imgur album with all the new relics is dead btw

[plain shard]

did the relics album just die

[drowsy belfry]

So that's like an afternoon of grinding before you're thrown back into DR haha

[wind bough]

Using capped tomestones on Zenith. Atma drop chances were low enough that people quit the game over it. Took weeks. Books made you kill a huge amount of mobs for which you had to compete with other players killing them in the same area. Materia was extremely expensive and you needed so many to put into the scroll, and you lost most of them to the low rng chances. Light farming was much longer than now. The Zodiac step that made you run dungeons for special drops...didn't have the drops guaranteed like they are now, it was another layer of RNG.

[gaunt star]

[placid sail]

wait what? 90 raids?

[rustic heath]

Bless ur soul

[quick blade]

What's fastest Alexander?

[sour perch]

it's because in pug e1n's your team will likely have people with bad DPS because they're new / scrubs
otherwise skipping fragor with a dedicated group will be easy

[balmy mauve]

yup the album dead

[coral thicket]

yea I can't view the album

[quick blade]

A1?

[plain shard]

f i'll imagine it

[cosmic herald]

DRK relic looks very funny with that glow ngl

[thick axle]

prolly A1 yea, if you just run with 6 dps

[wind bough]

I dig the DRK one

[pseudo monolith]

how do we obtain the new armor?

[quick blade]

I'd think faust slows it down but maybe I'm wrong

[grave raft]

so a1n/o1n/e1n is the wae for the grind?

[nimble lance]

people farm A4N on my DC for mogtomes so maybe that

[brisk silo]

what armour

[torpid yoke]

i like all the relics honestly. they look nice

[steel swan]

Any weapon pic?

[rain onyx]

I think DRK without glow is very pretty. The glow has my opinion mixed.

[neon dove]

@pseudo monolith By giving me a hug

[eternal sail]

Drk looks like. If i took tsuyu weapon. Dulled its glow. And slapped some rings on the blade

[solar epoch]

Is this the very last stage or was there 1 more small stage in another mini patch to finish up the relic?

[tame schooner]

e2n should be better, since you have the adds + intermission on Eden Prime.

[quick blade]

Oh boy people gonna BLU

[gray cobalt]

Don’t try to speedrun duties in df. Use of with six dps

[rapid venture]

@tame schooner easily skipped

[gray cobalt]

No adds

[gaunt star]

you can skip adds if your dps is good enough

[neon dove]

@tame schooner the point is to skip the adds

[floral idol]

i don't think (apart from the SAM) weps look bad, but that's it. they just "don't look bad." but they're also a FINAL RELIC STAGE.

[wary ravine]

You don't have that with enough dps

[next vault]

Not if you kill the boss fast enough

[tame schooner]

If you go with friends, ye.

[rustic heath]

So if these are non repeatable quests, does that mean your second relic ends at Timeworn Relic step? @drowsy belfry

[rapid venture]

or PF

[cinder spindle]

the relics looks like shit

[next vault]

I feel like A4N would be fastest, honestly.

[drowsy belfry]

WHOOPS read this wrong

[brisk silo]

oh

[cosmic herald]

the first step was essentially, level your crafters to craft and meld

[coral thicket]

cant view the relic weapon album

[mint axle]

Basic Instincts makes solo dungeons easy imo

[gaunt star]

I got e1n on my roulette today and we skipped adds, dps check is kinda lenient with everyone at 525+

[sharp scroll]

i actually prefer the eureka relics over these ones lmaooo

[rustic heath]

I HOPE SO T.T

[worthy cedar]

the imgur relic album got nuked anyone got a backup

[lunar oar]

If u think smn looks good idk what to say lol

[eternal sail]

Do not like penelos outfit.

[cinder spindle]

the only good ones are gunbreaker and DRK

[fast warren]

Not only capped tomestones, it took 3 weeks because the cap was 350 back then

[rustic heath]

Wait

[sharp scroll]

which one of these is healer

[soft gyro]

the relic weapons atleast look unique

[floral idol]

that means to say that i think the sam one is absolute dog poopoo

[rapid venture]

e1n in PF we killed it consistently in 2m

[nimble lance]

I agree with this, you start right infront of the boss and there's no add phase aside from a few people getting marked with the quarantine debuff

[rain onyx]

Lalafell

[wind bough]

the sam one is very underwhelming

[pseudo monolith]

i dunno, i just want to know if they needed the augmented laws order stuff mainly

[drowsy belfry]

So while for your first Relic upgrades you're required to do the 90 raid runs and stuff. When you work on extra weapons, you're only doing the Raw Emotion step

[sharp scroll]

thank god thank you

[upper stone]

I remember Larsa being basically a red mage but they gave his armor to healers???

[rapid venture]

Quarantine debuff D:

[fast warren]

There is an add phase, it's the entire start of the fight where you kill his legs while being able to do 5% damage to him total

[cosmic herald]

plus knowing nodes were very messy in arr and waiting for one takes an assload of time to spawn

[balmy mesa]

second relic will go timeworn -> raw emotion

[rain onyx]

Larsa was a potion god. /s

[fossil lava]

lit

[eternal sail]

@upper stone larsa was god of all potions

[unique wolf]

it's also for casters

[gray cobalt]

So it’s one step for subsequent relics?

[gilded stirrup]

I though Panelo outfit is the healer tho, sad

[restive mountain]

Are you going to be able to buy the golden gabriel with gold coins too?

[drowsy belfry]

Which tbh if the 70 dungeons are like 100% drop rates that's suuuuuper easy

[rustic heath]

So we only repeat the Dalriada step?

[pearl birch]

I bet the Penelo outfit is for dancers

[brave crater]

Larsa readies Hi-Potion

[sharp scroll]

his outfit is also caster just dyed

[cosmic herald]

expansion nodes don't have that, instead they can spawn in am/pm ET 12 hours of each other

[cyan wolf]

Shouldn't there be two repeatable quests

[drowsy belfry]

As far as I can see ye we only repeat the Dalriada step

[shadow solstice]

there was an Au Ra Bard wearing Penelo's outfit

[upper stone]

dyed to have all the personality drained from it 😐

[sand swift]

Link dead?

[rustic heath]

grunts UGHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[cyan wolf]

One for non glowy and one for glowy

[shadow solstice]

in the 5.55 preview

[sharp scroll]

i think...

[hollow folio]

Just search for mp4 in this channel if you want the relic models. :^) I deleted the album on purpose cause I'm not down for karma whores to repost my album just by that.

[coral thicket]

yea link is dead

[mint axle]

one step is skippable for 2nd onward relics

[lavish nexus]

the quest series implies there's a 5th step though?

[rustic heath]

Well. Its ok.

[mint axle]

the new 48 man for zadnor

[sick spear]

So there's no word on any other minions than just the Gunnhildr one?

[crimson pollen]

Some of them kinda look like Tsu weps yeah, especially because of the moon shape in many of them. Perhaps some were unused/non chosen versions back then and now reused due pandemics and to save time designing time

[rapid venture]

I need the 525 gear stats + materia slots 😦

[grave raft]

the new CLL in zadnor

[lavish nexus]

oh n/m, they roll up the 3 raid quests into a "turn it in quest" I guess?

[sturdy bobcat]

https://imgur.com/a/rBCv4T7

[thin bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785792536819925023/846652161747976252/Screenshot_12178.mp4
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785792536819925023/846652383038799913/Screenshot_12179.mp4
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785792536819925023/846652730516701224/Screenshot_12180.mp4
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785792536819925023/846652925501636638/Screenshot_12181.mp4
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785792536819925023/846653238870671360/Screenshot_12182.mp4
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785792536819925023/846653437167927316/Screenshot_12183.mp4
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785792536819925023/846653597147725853/Screenshot_12184.mp4
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785792536819925023/846651841295155210/Screenshot_12177.mp4
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785792536819925023/846653834139140107/Screenshot_12185.mp4
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785792536819925023/846654028078645248/Screenshot_12186.mp4
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785792536819925023/846654253007241256/Screenshot_12187.mp4
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785792536819925023/846654803500728350/Screenshot_12188.mp4
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785792536819925023/846655185429200896/Screenshot_12190.mp4
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785792536819925023/846655776802209832/Screenshot_12191.mp4
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785792536819925023/846655998369595392/Screenshot_12192.mp4
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785792536819925023/846656602454097966/Screenshot_12193.mp4
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785792536819925023/846657434398490664/Screenshot_12194.mp4
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/742955099759968280/834659754797301760/Screenshot_11902.mp4
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/742955099759968280/834659868970319912/Screenshot_11901.mp4

[devout musk]

why

[sharp scroll]

the past relic step is so much better which is what’s weird

[neon dove]

Can you donr

[cosmic herald]

it's been a while since i've known crafting/gathering of all things was tedious to level and the benefits of maxing them was low cost repairs and free melds

[fresh grail]

why

[clear mountain]

theres a pinned imgur link ;;

[next orbit]

why

[unkempt spire]

why

[humble ledge]

Where is the two seater bike from?

[eternal sail]

God i thought i had a stroke there

[unreal wadi]

Zadnor

[balmy mesa]

getting all the field notes

[drowsy belfry]

So something that does tickle my fancy, there's two separate replicas for the new steps

[gilded stirrup]

how about this link? https://imgur.com/gallery/r1AoLXF

[unreal wadi]

?!

[warm egret]

achievement for all field notes

[next vault]

Sorry, I was reposting for other people who asked. I don't know what karma is.

[stiff charm]

OH????? HOPE!!! HOPE

[vale wadi]

how do you get balthier¡s bike?

[wind bough]

what the

[drowsy belfry]

So I'm guessing if you don't like the glow, there'll be a non glowy version

[bright mango]

after our first relic, we go from item level 515 to 535? that seems wrong?

[rain onyx]

Maybe it’s like Physeos for Eureka?

[drowsy belfry]

Could be!

[half phoenix]

Yea, that’s normal, glowing and non-glowing

[balmy mesa]

515 -> 525 -> 535

[hollow folio]

Someone posted the album on the reddit ffxiv sub to get some karma. :^)

[wind bough]

but naming them main hand and off hand is

[rustic heath]

Are the non glowy ver dyable?????

[floral idol]

what glow? LMAO

[grave raft]

theres still 525 i think

[eternal sail]

Gross.

[gray cobalt]

Isn’t there always a glow and non glow?

[mint axle]

Final step of relic is alway bis over savage raid weapons for awhile

[sharp scroll]

they have glows?

[next vault]

Oh, they did? I see. Haha.. So rude!

[drowsy belfry]

Oh that's just textools being wonky.

[subtle pasture]

Matte Replicas are probably nonglow, yeah

[gray cobalt]

Nvm, animal final is all glows

[gaunt star]

its almost 5am and im staying up to find out WHERE TF CRUISE AT

[merry osprey]

coulda fooled me except pld

[kind lark]

Yeah but the images cant show it

[subtle pasture]

Love the Blade's X naming scheme,

[pine epoch]

do we have a spreadsheet of new items + minions

[eternal sail]

God i should long be asleep. But relics

[neon dove]

@gaunt star no cruise chaser

[half phoenix]

Cash shop.

[azure quail]

Who needs glow when your weapon is MADE OF CANDY

[sharp scroll]

oh okay, i figured it was just someone’s paintbrush that rubbed against the camera or something

[rapid venture]

no spreadsheet yet ;;

[torpid yoke]

No of course not. Idk why you would think they would glow

[balmy mesa]

& same applies to the gear, too

[gaunt star]

Nahhhhh u lying fam

[rustic heath]

Imma sleep I can do this all later

[bronze steppe]

did we figure out if there's a reward with the final yorha quest?

[silver osprey]

CC might be reward for feast season 20

[sour perch]

i still jut wanna know where the new hair is from

[half phoenix]

Probably won’t go on sale until August.

[dreamy burrow]

The bard ome fits the clown esthetic so well. Wtf is that brown +green+blue

[rustic heath]

Have fun folks

[gaunt star]

anyone found out how to actually get the relic?

[fresh grail]

Hair info and spreadsheet info plz ty ily

[stark vine]

Wasn't Zadnor supposed to keep us "busy" until Endwalker? Looks like ppl will be done within a few days and can unsub for half a year.

[pine epoch]

dont worry hes not

[latent stream]

Has the imgur link been changed?

[gaunt star]

yea it has kat

[next orbit]

Well... nothing is keeping you from subbing no?

[fast warren]

Feast always has two variants of the model, CC only has one

[drowsy belfry]

Also here's some fun once you finish the StQ story there's gonna be a celebration or something. There's separate text for before finishing Zadnor and after

[floral idol]

the brd one fits the brd aesthetic. sleeping outside.

[crimson pollen]

Damn, PLD so glowy looks like Mace Windy lightsaber

[sharp scroll]

Low key tho has anyone figured out the Yorha reward?

[neon dove]

This game sucks im unsubbing!!!

[jade pelican]

So is it only normals for the raid grind? If we do savage can we get bonus?

[balmy mesa]

if you're doing it at a casual rate it'll be doable to pad out all six months
I have lots to do still

[foggy coyote]

https://imgur.com/a/OdQwVwC

[cedar dagger]

Is drk weapon dragonslayer :^)

[gray cobalt]

There was supposed to be a festival after Eden, too

[azure quail]

I doubt they care too much if people unsub til expac. They know we'll all be back

[wispy portal]

Sorry just checking in. Where does the new dungeon glam drop btw?

[drowsy belfry]

I doubt it

[fast warren]

Because there is none. You get a title and that's it. Nothing to figure out.

[cosmic herald]

Doomposting cringe

[sharp scroll]

LOL REALLY?

[neon dove]

@cosmic herald is only joke no worry

[floral idol]

ye

[unreal wadi]

Ruined

[bronze steppe]

pain

[sour perch]

the title is pretty cool though fwiw

[rapid venture]

Yorha quest reward is the friends we made along the way 🙂

[sharp scroll]

welp it’s expected i suppose what a letdown

[bronze steppe]

what is it

[unreal wadi]

Yorha was a mistake at the end of the day

[half phoenix]

It was added 7 weeks ago with 5.5. And they never add items before their sources if its going to be obtained in game

[next vault]

Someone said Yorha reward was the Weight of the World Music, I thought

[sour perch]

"Witness to the Dark Apocalypse"

[foggy coyote]

doomposting

[fast warren]

an underwhelming finish to the worst 24man in this entire game

[unreal wadi]

[dusky jewel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZYBqDfz8fI

[balmy mesa]

oh my god already? \

[floral idol]

Yorha Quest Reward was googling what Nier was and getting hit with questioning my sexuality with Kaine.

[subtle pasture]

The raids were good tf?

[fleet pond]

Yoko Taro didn't even delivery sadness, just let us all down. so, just as was expected

[wind bough]

that dropped from Copied Factory...

[unkempt spire]

These new market board weapons look lit

[foggy coyote]

lmao that vid

[sour perch]

the raids were good the story was just

[vale elm]

do the new weapons have haste

[torpid yoke]

it's the best one IMO

[gaunt star]

what new marketboard weapons

[devout musk]

the raids look nice aesthetically, thats it

[mint axle]

Probably not

[gaunt star]

The new reward is the normal version of the song

[sour perch]

i personally liked it but i can see why people had issues with it

[unreal wadi]

No new marketboard weapons

[hollow folio]

Whoever did this is a god holy shit 😂

[next vault]

No, the actual music. Not the XIV reprisal

[wind bough]

oh boring

[devout musk]

raids are fking boring

[half phoenix]

I doubt the new weapons have haste.

[sharp scroll]

the final raid just seemed like the mechanics were “run to middle, now run to sides, rinse repeat”

[unreal wadi]

suffering

[vale elm]

plz i need 1.5 gcd on my sam

[subtle pasture]

you can choose the substats

[fast warren]

Orbonne and Weeping still the best 24mans

[half phoenix]

Time to farm glorified fates then

[gray cobalt]

Nier had nice fight design in some places, but many, many problems

[sour perch]

judging relative, everything that's outside of savage is that

[lusty herald]

Nier raid had the best fights and best glams. Shit story though

[dreamy bane]

I highly doubt it, SE want new people to be able to queue normal edens

[floral idol]

even if overrated i think all of the nier raids have some of the best glams imo.

[brazen eagle]

Anyone got the link to the glowy weps?

[half phoenix]

Pinned

[gray cobalt]

And a distinct lack of the Thunder God

[steel swan]

Guys, is that the final glow of relics?

[devout musk]

i mean the nier raids

[wind bough]

I liked the Red Girl black/white wall mechanics except for how thay make you lose uptime

[subtle pasture]

Ye, these are the final stage relics

[mint axle]

They prolly might do the first tier of eden normal because they still currently drop fanfest tomes

[balmy mesa]

they got rid of the jump scare

[azure quail]

Nier best glams?

[sharp scroll]

ofc not.... there’s totally another stage we’re just getting pranked

[sturdy bobcat]

Wait did they?

[dusky frigate]

Does anyone know if our substats are carrying over throughout the relic weapons up to i535?

[brave crater]

this is like half the mechanics in the game

[floral idol]

NO WAY THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT?

[subtle pasture]

y'all got no taste of somethin', these weapons are fine

[brave forge]

Wait did they get rid of the jumpscare?

[sharp sonnet]

Imma be real, the final summoner stage is even more underwhelming than the hydatos weapons smh

[zenith wagon]

Is Red Girl transition gone?

[steel swan]

So disapointed lol

[cosmic herald]

Is it worth grinding for relics if we have Savage weapon?

[gray cobalt]

I thought it was only the epilepsy raid wide?

[crimson pollen]

PLD relic = kinda Eye of Thundera sword

[floral idol]

THERE'S SOME PANSIES ON THIS GAME HOLY SHI.

[merry osprey]

am sad

[hexed pumice]

Furnishing list? owo

[gray cobalt]

That’s a weird thing to call epileptic people

[thorny nova]

The relic id gonna be better than e12s wep

[lunar oar]

Here chad taste master

[steel swan]

They are horrible lol

[rotund quest]

there was a jumpscare?

[surreal tartan]

Didn't someone have a seizure from the static effect I thought?

[vale elm]

PLD relic shield + TEA sword is a match m ade in heaven

[dusky frigate]

Depends on the substats on the raid weap

[ember steeple]

it's epilepsy since it's rapid screen flashing that happens often

[late trail]

yes

[green siren]

wait fr they got rid of the Red Girl face?? LOL

[wind bough]

They adjusted something for accessibility reasons, meaning probably epilepsy hazards

[torpid yoke]

are you really surprised

[foggy coyote]

What's the proof they removed it?

[cosmic herald]

There has to be ilvl stat difference

[ashen sluice]

they will have better substats but that's about it

[subtle pasture]

True, same remarks about Diamond Zeta weapons

[late trail]

people did experience seizures and felt ill

[ember steeple]

535 should also have better weapon damage

[rapid venture]

nah, only substats

[dry remnant]

raid is 535

[ashen sluice]

no wpn damage will be the same

[gray cobalt]

If they were removing things because they were scary, tam-Tara hm wouldn’t be in the game

[thorny nova]

Raid id 535

[late trail]

I know someone who has light sensitivity and needed to take an ice pack after running it

[crimson pollen]

Play PLD hroth and go "thunder, thunder thundercatttt hooooo" while using your new relic. It'll fit.

[unkempt spire]

Do you think that ilvl is true end game ?

[balmy mesa]

Honestly I don't know if they did remove that
but seriously think it had something to do that

[mint axle]

I think it's the one where Red girl does a cast that takes you to the add stage. I think the jumpscare happens after that cast is finished

[gray mason]

Anyone have a link to the relic weapon pics?

[fossil lava]

whats the ilvl of the new bozja gear?

[sturdy bobcat]

They probably got rid of the elevator before the final boss

[ember steeple]

adjusted != removed

[warm egret]

525

[rapid venture]

@fossil lava I think 525

[gaunt star]

wtf are you gonna do with a new 535 weapon

[plush dove]

minion king

[gaunt star]

Doesn't game come with seizure warning though?

[azure quail]

A bit sad final relics aren't Butterfingers themed

[steep sand]

friendly reminder for summoner player

[rapid venture]

But no substats posted yet for the new 525 gear

[subtle pasture]

They'll be "better" because the substats will equatable to something pentamelded, whereas Edenmorn can only have 2,
or such is how it usually goes

[ashen sluice]

ya still need minion plz pretty plz

[wind bough]

I think SMN book is fine ngl

[stark perch]

LMFAOOOOOO

[steep sand]

10 euros each month btw n_n

[gaunt star]

@coarse matrix

[cosmic herald]

wdym hacking minigame is colorblind friendly lol

[floral idol]

welp, if it flared epileptic reactions then that's something that i can't deny is horrible. i just assumed they removed it because of people complaining it's too scary or somethin'

[steel swan]

All horrible

[ashen sluice]

er minion list plz

[unborn ruin]

is there any haste or something on the new bozja gear?

[wind bough]

having dragon wings on every time was getting a bit old

[arctic siren]

[dreamy stone]

Can someone link the new crafted weapons

[dry remnant]

astro wep looks like a mobile youd hang over a babys crib

[unreal wadi]

there's none

[cosmic condor]

Cruise Chaser Mount deleted

[ember steeple]

having a seizure warning does not mean you need to leave in effects that make a player suffer if it can be altered

[foggy coyote]

reminder for what? that SMNs are on suicide watch cuz of that whack ass tome?

[neon dove]

@dreamy stone Ok here:

[mint axle]

tbh that jumpscare didn't feel like a jumpscare imo.

[foggy coyote]

[thorny nova]

Its more for speeds and parsing thatd about it

[elder rock]

someone linked me the mch and nin ones ..
they're puke colored glow

[subtle pasture]

Yeah SMN book is cute, it's moreso the glow from the pages shoudla been stronger than SCH's to contrast

[gaunt star]

What jumpscare

[covert surge]

What happened to the album of all the relics?

[foggy coyote]

peepee glow

[lunar oar]

This is xivuwu what do you expect

[unreal wadi]

dead

[steel swan]

For the final relic of 5.x, Its a total shame

[elder rock]

404'd

[unreal wadi]

you get no relics @covert surge

[crimson pollen]

Are new relics indeed better than Eden S?

[sharp scroll]

i’m just curious how we go from Bahamut wings to Jell-o world

[elder rock]

anyone capture the DRK one?

[coarse matrix]

[gaunt star]

Just seen the bard weapon.my condolences to u guys.

[foggy coyote]

https://imgur.com/a/OdQwVwC

[subtle pasture]

then don't do the relic, ez

[ashen wyvern]

I think it's less about the jumpscare, and more about the seizeures

[dusky frigate]

Y'all doomin, just glam it lol

[gaunt star]

@crimson pollen Yes

[severe path]

Wait and see. Maybe they just toned the flashing down or something…

[crimson pollen]

tyty

[gray cobalt]

Have you done Werlyt? Or met Tesleen? This game has horror elements in it

[stiff charm]

bard is one of the good ones.

[exotic kiln]

yes, yoshi p said they will be slightly better

[subtle pasture]

relic has been extra stuff atop the Bozja story anyhow,

[warm egret]

show me all the new lost actions pls <.<

[foggy coyote]

BRD bow looks like a christmas ornament, and not in a good way

[lunar oar]

Horror yes for sure

[vale elm]

anyone have the new armor set stats?

[rapid venture]

Yeah, we still have no data on lost actions or armor stats

[crimson pollen]

tyty

[torpid yoke]

the relic is usually always BiS at end of expac

[coarse matrix]

I'm doing smn relic anyway for bis but man it feels bad to get shafted this hard 3 times in a row

[gaunt star]

BRD is a meme anyway

[sharp scroll]

tesleen made me laugh tbh

[floral idol]

drk relic looks like it's sweating fruit gushers

[balmy mauve]

uhm wait, this is the final step of current relic?

[azure quail]

Bard's final relic looks like another Gold Saucer cactuar wep to me

[dusky frigate]

Just glam it, sheesh

[sour perch]

just unsub until EW so you don't have to worry about getting bis this expansion

[round turret]

Ast is the best one imo followed by pld

[ashen sluice]

this patch is the final step for relics yes

[dusky frigate]

Y'all doomin for no reason lol

[steel swan]

So happy with my eureka smn relic lol

[lunar oar]

Nah that's horror how can't u be scared

[zenith wagon]

Ast is solid for the .5.55 relic

[wind bough]

this hate for the new relics is baffling to me tbh, but then it's always like this

[stark perch]

Ugly relics no tataru outfit delayed expansion ....it's the end of days baby endwalker hype asf!!!!

[tame dragon]

glamour is the entire reason to do relics lol

[crimson pollen]

SAM looks like PoTD wep, tbh

[kindred halo]

It was not this way for Lux

[winter cliff]

We do know what lost actions we're having this patch

[quick blade]

Anyone have the spreadsheet so I can check the 525 Bozja gear stats?

[subtle pasture]

One of the first time they've full on implemented the glow into the model design, isn't it,

[balmy mauve]

gosh, guess i'll continue the relic step in EW after some nerf..

[gaunt star]

Always babycrying

[silver osprey]

Wait, so the mount for collecting all triple triad cards is the card mount?

[kindred halo]

the Lux series was absolkutely beloved

[pine epoch]

I agree, People will complain if its to easy to get the new relic, but then if its to time consuming people throw a fit.

[wind bough]

I remember the hate for WAR lux

[thorny nova]

I mean the crystals are unique but atleast give it a glow???????

[coarse matrix]

be smn/sch player
get shit relics every patch since 4.4
"why are you complaining????"

[steel swan]

It looks cheap, thats all

[floral idol]

THIS LMAO.

[unreal wadi]

its a strawberry jam bread wdym

[whole mortar]

maintenance end early pls, i wanna play bozja

[subtle pasture]

are the crystals not the glow

[cosmic herald]

what, you expect new relics to be flashy af?

[dusky frigate]

Oh fuck

[novel gorge]

I just don't like the looks lol

[carmine basin]

if ppl want compilation for the weps

[unreal wadi]

the bait

[gaunt star]

new relics that look good? not in my ffxiv

[gray cobalt]

What is it a spoiler for?

[azure quail]

Imagine if Cruise Chaser mount was actually for getting all TT cards

[dull rover]

weapons

[unreal wadi]

[neon dove]

But the devs didn't do exactly what I wanted them to! This relic looks bad even though I'm gonna have it glamemd with some dumb level 73 dungeon weapon anyways so therefore the game is bad and I'm not playing anymore! You are nitpicking and biased I win bye bye

[dark falcon]

relic weapons

[merry osprey]

weapons

[pine epoch]

I actually like all the relics in 14

[sharp scroll]

that spoiler post jump scared me more than Red Girl

[crimson pollen]

Excalibur + Aegis, still mandatory for a PLD, tho

[foggy coyote]

I'n just going to keep posting this because the link works, lol: https://imgur.com/a/OdQwVwC

[lunar oar]

ARR were not flashy af yet they are probably the best looking relics.

[deep blade]

Stop using spoiler tags in the spoiler chat

[wind bough]

I don't like any Eureka relics except like two or three

[oak crest]

Is there anything that says how much substat budget the final 535 weapons have?

[dry remnant]

im fine with the steps but the designs suck
to the point where im not completing any of my 5 relics lmao

[sour perch]

the people that are like 'i'm surprised at the outrage' are just equally fallible as the people who overly hate them
it's just taste let people hate or not hate stuff

[wind bough]

But I like almost all of these ones

[novel gorge]

the previous glow is better for this set imho

[boreal forge]

http://puu.sh/HJuEz/aa295a2f65.png

[lunar prism]

Ah well, true for all the expansions:

[latent lagoon]

180 higher than i535 eden ones

[round turret]

they probally expect some ugly ass wow looking weapons

[crimson pollen]

Remember the gloom and doom when ppl saw hydatos weps, lol - it's all over again

[coarse matrix]

lux moment

[proper scroll]

I dont really get y'all tbh? You dont NEED the relic weapon, you dont need BiS. There isn't anything coming out until Endwalker. Just dont do it or unsub completely

[foggy coyote]

If people wanna like their reject Digimon movie glowy relic weapons, it's fine. Enjoy that shit! We ain't mad, lmao.

[subtle pasture]

Like previously glows could beeeeeee on the obnoxious side, but this time it looks like the glows are baked in to the weapon designs themselves, I like it

[sharp scroll]

tbh these are worse than hydatos

[wind bough]

I mean. Hydatos weapons were kinda 😬

[sour perch]

mch, rdm and gnb weps stay winning

[late willow]

How dare you insult my lolipop

[stiff charm]

inb4 no relics in endwalker

[analog imp]

Does anyone have the name for the new Bozja glamour/armor?

[torpid yoke]

i actually like the physos weapons

[floral idol]

na

[crude imp]

Is there a list of new gear yet?

[coarse matrix]

that's only the last two expacs frankly, zeta and lux were good

[lunar oar]

That's not a nice thing lmao

[rapid venture]

List of new gear please

[sour perch]

okay but people are gonna complain about how they look without really needing to do them
they can acknowledge it's ugly while taking your advice?

[gaunt star]

What's required for the last step of the relics?

[round turret]

no hydatos were the worst relics they have ever made

[brisk silo]

i mean astro and whm look pretty good

[restive finch]

People are allowed to be upset if they dislike the thing they've already spent a shit ton of time grinding for

[stark perch]

Hydatos weapons are good I liked the blm staff and the war axe that looks like a ff6 magitek

[vale elm]

imma need to do thema ll fo those achievement points anyways

[pseudo monolith]

was it said how the 525 armor was obtained?

[subtle pasture]

There were a few gems among the Eureka/Phyesos.......... a few

[hazy moon]

i mean i had the best game experiences in my life just doing Baldesion Arsenal which was released at the end patches of Stormblood

[coarse matrix]

hydatos was garbage out of nowhere and this step has some good ones, some mediocre, and then a few hydatos-tier

[abstract hound]

Any datamined info abt this actually? Don’t see it

[sour perch]

personally people called the weapons i liked ugly but that doesn't mean i'm gonna tell them they're wrong, nor am i gonna stop going to grind for it

[proper scroll]

I just dont understand why y'all would keep doing something that makes you so unhappy

[gaunt star]

Whats the requirements for Zadnor?

[unkempt spire]

PLD RELIC SUPREMACY

[cosmic herald]

this is my opinion, first step was good, second step is cool, last was bad

[sharp scroll]

depression

[sour perch]

well they're not, they're gonna call it ugly and then not do the relic step. that's, like, a thing they have every right to do

[boreal forge]

idk why this hate for the last relics, every, single, f***, expansion

[whole mortar]

i just wanna play the game

[fossil lava]

i still think nothings gonna beat the glow down from pyros weaps to hydatos weap kekwwww

[wind bough]

I mean. Eureka weapons were garbo all the way. I think the particle trails on the Elemental weapons looked awful

[subtle pasture]

completing the last section, Delubrum Reginae

[azure quail]

Good ones imo were blm, whm, gnb, pld, rdm, and war

[wary perch]

The relic is ugly af
Lucky I didn't spent time grinding them

[gaunt star]

Finish bozja story @gaunt star

[little bison]

i dont even know do i want to upgrade most of them

[gray cobalt]

Complete the story up until the end of DR

[round turret]

yep i might have to dust off pld just for that relic

[plush dove]

i am just sad that dancer's one and only relic looks like a radioactive cat shit on it

i have the timeworn artifacts to make 3 weapons but idk what to make after whm now

[crimson pollen]

PLD deserves some love after Hydatos, tbh. It got one of the fugliest weps ever seen. Sword look like he was beating ppl with a tree branch (at least belerophon shield was nice)

[foggy coyote]

I don't understand why you assume that's what the case is exactly to a tee for every single person here.

[steel swan]

We Will grind for It but man, they are ugly...

[hazy moon]

im kind of sick of one side like "omg i hate raiding im just gonna do story and unsub" or the other "god i hate this casual stuff just gonna gear up in savage/ultimate and unsub"

[scarlet prism]

Summoner relic looking like pure 💩 👌

[dry remnant]

in a lot of cases a lot of us arent going to. because they look like crap

[gaunt star]

So CLL and DR clears and boom I am able to run Zadnor?

[gleaming onyx]

are they missing particle effects or something

[wary perch]

Will just get drk and maybe pld and get done with it lol

[merry osprey]

good thing we all have our own opinions on the weapons right..right?

[lunar oar]

Most of the complains are because the weapons look shit, we waited a lot of time for last stage and then we get rewarded with basic weapons

[coarse matrix]

Eureka weapons were absolutely not garbage all the way. Like half of the Anemos / Pyros ones are good.

[wind bough]

people just don't like the colours

[steel swan]

Its like april fools

[coarse matrix]

It's only Hydatos that's total garbage

[little bison]

can we make duplicate so we can use the old one for glam, cuz dam I want a good drk glam but that sword is eh. I'll upgrade paladin's tho

[plush dove]

every smn relic looks like 💩

[stiff charm]

pyros effect is fugly tho

[dry remnant]

designs for me

[supple kite]

theres a few that look good

[sour perch]

the people saying 'i don't get the relic hate' are really just dismissive of subjective tastes lmfao
like, it's not gonna affect you if you don't let it. people like or dislike different things, live with it

[gray cobalt]

Yes, though you will need Rank 16 to progress in Zadmor after the first zone

[sharp scroll]

it’s not even just the colors, it’s the glow themselves

[gaunt star]

maybe they'll look better when i afk in limsa

[wind bough]

I think all the elemental/pyros weapons are garbage

[onyx sundial]

I think all eureka weapons are ew

[azure quail]

It's like they start with the smn relic and go "okay now just make sure the rest don't look like THIS"

[lunar oar]

Saying 'don't do it' it's not going to make things better

[scarlet prism]

This hurts my soul

[floral idol]

It's something they released, like everything that exists it will be criticized. Whether it's a "valid" critique or shitposting the very fact it exists will get criticism.

[coarse matrix]

pyros off the top of my head at least SMN, SAM, RDM are good

[wary perch]

The 2 seat bike mount from ff12 is from field notes achievement?

[proper scroll]

Listen Im not silencing your capacity to complain lmao. But what does it accomplish. Either do it or dont. Thats really the end of the conversation

[gray cobalt]

Take it back. The Pyros tuck is amazing

[onyx sundial]

Except for rdm ones

[wind bough]

nah

[steel swan]

If they had some good glow... But they are final, sadly

[stark perch]

The weirdest part is introducing Gerolt's First counterpart as the crafter of our af4 and then not incorporating him into the relic quest at all

[coarse matrix]

hydatos there is legit not one good relic

[crimson pollen]

Hydatos was bad (for most) and PLD was the fugliest of them all - thats why it got some love now I guess

[pine epoch]

yes

[tardy saddle]

Pyros axe???

[stiff charm]

rdm is ok

[sour perch]

i don't even hate em that much it's just really weird to me people are surprised that people hate the new relics.
like another person said prior, it's not a surprise and you shouldn't really care either way

[subtle pasture]

"wtf the glow is so big"
design team makes a glow aesthetic that compliments and even completes some of the weapon designs
"wtf there's no glow?"

[late trail]

look I just wanna do content. the designs are ass but I'll grab them anyway

[cosmic herald]

You don't need to complete your relic if you cared too much about design tbh

[zenith wagon]

Contradicting statement there. "You're free to complain. But also STOP."

[coarse matrix]

rdm is "ok" but when the last two are anemos rdm and pyros rdm.....

[floral idol]

this

[drowsy belfry]

So anyway Re: potentially having to do ANOTHER 255 DR runs.

[ashen sluice]

he's from another dimension so it wouldn't make sense to have it over on the source

[lunar oar]

Do it or don't do it it's not even a conversation.

[rapid venture]

I just want to know the armor stats

[thorny nova]

Speeds and parsing is a thing but ofc if you dont care about logs

[torpid yoke]

ya cant please everyone 😔

[upper stone]

I like the Hydatos books except for the stupid particle glow effect thing. The book itself looked so cool when it lit up though which is a damn shame

[latent lagoon]

not confirmed but weapon has 1143 substats from delving in the ui script

[cosmic herald]

Why waste your breath complaining about relic designs if you're not gonna do it anyway

[wary perch]

Can we get the solo bosses field notes from engagement?

[proper scroll]

I didnt say to stop complaining, and clearly you didnt. Whats the issue lol

[foggy coyote]

I mean... the same could be said about your comment, my comment... Anyone's comment. What's inherently more constructive about what you're saying here than what anyone else is saying? We all know it doesn't mean or change anything. So why give a fuck?

[sour perch]

these may or may not be the same people complaining about the same thing fwiw

[balmy mauve]

taste is personally to each and every individual, and im calling it, EW MIGHT have some shittiest gear design coming for us, never know

[latent lagoon]

which is180 higher than eden morn with 2 melds

[gray cobalt]

Yes, rarely

[wary perch]

I don't think I can clear the solo

[onyx sundial]

Ninja relics be like:
1st step: glowy double katanas really cool
2nd step: some ugly daggers with glow
3rd step: oh lawd why are they so chonky aaaaaa

[dry remnant]

dude you told people to unsub as an option if they dont like em. hows that not trying to silence people

[crimson pollen]

Just drop the Venat lore bomg. Go ahead. Do it.

[wary perch]

Ok thanks

[subtle pasture]

Oh yeah speaking of,

[gray cobalt]

I have Dabog and Sautivoir, and have never been accepted into a duel

[subtle pasture]

where's the secret figure in light model drop

[dull lake]

I dreamed the 5.55 patch and woke up just now for it
Is it a sign

[ashen sluice]

yes but the drop rate is abyssmal

[kind moss]

Is there early release or was that datamining up there

[coarse matrix]

I mean both can be true

you can have glows that aren't hydatos/pyros colorvomit while also not being the basically nothing of smn/sch

[cosmic herald]

I don't need to hear your fucking opinion when you're not gonna do it anyway

[unkempt spire]

I mean you are kinda missing the point, some of them are not glowing and are great looking like MNK MCH WHM, but look at SAM what is that a burnt wooden stick with some barbecue sauce on top of it ???

[dry remnant]

data mining

[dull lake]

Also is it up yet

[proper scroll]

I didnt mean it in a mean way? Literally if your not playing or having fun, save yourself some money or play something else. Its not the insult you think it is lmao

[sharp scroll]

then leave?

[stark perch]

DROP THE LORE BOMB

[coarse matrix]

oh yeah sam don't remind me

[floral idol]

maybe it's time for you take a break from discord

[whole mortar]

1 hour left, i need COPIUM

[wind bough]

SAM got it bad tbh

[faint badger]

can i get a big mac

[pine epoch]

||Inb4 the Final boss of Zadnor that we saw datamine is Vegnagun.||

[upper stone]

id still take most of these relics over the hydatos ones

[lone seal]

the ffxiv update bot on twitter tweeted the game was updated so i got excited and thought maint was done early, sad

[arctic siren]

I really like Miqo'te

[worldly garnet]

@whole mortar It may look better once you're ingame

[dry remnant]

then close the channel. were free to state our opinions

[crimson pollen]

Ninja relic just looks like he holding 2 random crystals and trying to beat ppl with them

[wary perch]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-and-dumber-lloyd-theres-a-chance-jim-carrey-gif-11098164

[foggy coyote]

How do you know who is or isn't gonna do it anyway? You there in the room with them? Got a psychic brain link? Wanna share with the class how you're able to do that shit? lmao

[crimson pollen]

its time. Go on.

[wind bough]

Everyone's free to state their opinions but no one needs to yell at each other over them

[steel swan]

The design is ok, the problem is the lack of glow

[sour perch]

there's a fallacy because you're ofering 'if you don't like 1 thing, just unsub' instead of just acknowledging people can dislike things while still enjoying the game.
like, i hate the ninja weapons but i'll still do it for BiS or whatever. people just dislike how the weapons look, it doesn't affect you or whatever

[floral idol]

complaining about us complaining and still looking at this discord channel is the same as us doing relics even if we hate the look of them LMAOOO

[onyx sage]

is 5.55 = final relic content?

[severe path]

If you are upset about how the relic weapons look, remember not to start them until the last step drops in Endwalker. Learn from your mistakes. Personally I think some are okay and some are mediocre.

[thorny nova]

How is expressing that the relic looks bad mean we dont enjoy the game

[fresh grail]

... :3 okay but what about....recipes :3

[wind bough]

yep

[subtle pasture]

--which is untrue, the crystal particles, are glows

[steel swan]

They look like cheap event weapons

[faint badger]

does anyone think the weapons might be missing the glow because theyre not actually ingame ingame

[wary perch]

For shb, yes

[heady shadow]

I thought this was supposed to be hype discussions not constant bitching at each other......

[wind bough]

They all have glows

[onyx sage]

thx

[gaunt star]

no tataru outfit shit patch

[round turret]

if you think the designs are so bad show me something better

[upper stone]

what if im a masochist and I make all the relics anyway even if I dont like them :V

[unkempt spire]

Does anyone here actually like the new SAM relic like for real? Lets hear the opinions lol

[cinder spindle]

red mage looks like a useable fancy toothpick

[carmine basin]

https://tenor.com/view/winslow-odd-fellow-walk-in-walk-out-catdog-gif-8298707

[cosmic herald]

Anyways, Stats > Design

[little bison]

you can never go wrong with sam, and rdm, they are stick and full of glow, but I believe the winner of the relic is paladin, whm, blm.

[keen veldt]

[stark perch]

NO SERIOUSLYYYYY

[faint badger]

glam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[zenith wagon]

Hype is a form of energy. Energy can be put to different things.

[oak crest]

Hold on that feels wrong. The 515 relic step has a substat budget of 1167

[tidal mauve]

if they make the weapons look too good people won't do the next relic questline hoping to get a better looking weapon and setting themselves up to get disappointed again

[sour perch]

no, the same perosn who datamined them with mp4's for law's order and byakko/hades weapons were entirely accurate

[proper scroll]

I guess im just looking at it in a practical way. I dont really like them either. But will complaining about it do anything? No. So why would I waste my energy

[faint badger]

oh damn

[sharp scroll]

this is genuinely so sad, even sadder than the relics

[gray cobalt]

Yeah, I love rdm’s focus, but not a fan of the lack of guard or hilt

[sour perch]

then stop putting energy into caring if other people complain lmfao

[subtle pasture]

True, it's glowing is, on the simpler side, but the blade's red glow is contrasted to a darker orange for the facets hovering over the hilt-- sure wish those colors were more different though, at least

[crimson pollen]

So Venat is lke the 3rd Minfilia version of Minfilia - what

[steel swan]

Gn everyone

[gaunt star]

|| inb4 last boss of Zadnor is Zenos who wants to try out Reaper before release, cheater got a pre-pre-order ||

[brazen trout]

i just want my laws order step done so i can get the purple glowy AST weapon and get the new one

[gaunt star]

i was looking forward to the outfit more than the relics

[fresh grail]

Um excuse the MCH weapon might be the best one we get from this whole dang expansion. Did you see Byakko, Hades, and Diamond Ex? At least this one is a SHOTGUN! \o/

[boreal forge]

it have crystals on the guard, and it looks like molten lava, you don't like it? don't farm it but really, i'm since ARR listening people saying "oh this relic looks like shit" or "i was farming so much for this last step that looks like shit?" like, bruh, you know you was able to don't farm it and wait for the last step and it would be easier in the end

[gaunt star]

are servers down for another hour?

[wary ravine]

Super conflicted on this idea

[proper scroll]

Im sitting here waiting for the game to launch I aint got anything better to do lmao

[sharp scroll]

same i’ve been looking forward to the glam since 5.4

[gray cobalt]

It’s like they went to far on removing the law’s order elaborate guard

[floral idol]

YOO, if it was vegnagun though..

[azure quail]

Unless they drop it early ya

[upper stone]

the scope on the mch one looks kinda silly though

[rapid venture]

I just want item spreadsheets 😦

[subtle pasture]

MCH and AST are fire, imo

[zenith wagon]

Can we get more Flatscreen TVs

[cosmic herald]

That wouldn't make sense ||Zenos is heavily tied to MSQ and would be dumb to put him outside of that||

[sour perch]

scope on the mch one is hilarious

[coarse matrix]

MCH is great

[floral idol]

i'm always thirsty for any droplets of ff10 references.

[stark perch]

YUPPPP!!!

[cinder spindle]

atleast the GNB,DRK,AST,BLM one looks good

[terse cargo]

@cosmic heraldits a joke

[floral idol]

10/10-2

[boreal seal]

MCH is fuckin titan egi in a gun.

[steep sand]

still no visual of the news recipes?

[sharp scroll]

no allied beast tribe and no tataru glam

[thorny nova]

People are free to express what they dont like in a game they enjoy for weapons that are bis and especially the final relic questline. As long as people arent shitting on others.

[sour perch]

^

[wind bough]

not a fan of MCH one, it's just the SAM problem again to me

[fresh grail]

Ye I think they'll all look better once we've worked our digital butts off for them.

[cosmic herald]

then label your joke

[wary ravine]

I mean same, that's why I'm conflicted 😂

[gaunt star]

[toxic ginkgo]

allied beast tribe is gonna be a later patch

[unborn ruin]

is there any list of the new bozja skills/essences?

[azure quail]

You know what's really a joke? The smn relic

[sour perch]

i can see why people don't like the MCH one but i love it. it's so fuckin funny lmao

[celest kraken]

Final boss is a robotic diabolos like thing that looks like neo exdeath

[cinder spindle]

tbh we all have our opinions and we are just voicing out as feedback for today's relic weapon

[vagrant temple]

Is the final relic weapon bis for ultimates?

[latent lagoon]

1203 sry

[dry remnant]

no

[sharp scroll]

no they said no allied beast tribe this expansion

[upper stone]

most MCH guns are scaled shittily on lalafells anyway so Im not holding my breath on this looking good

[subtle pasture]

the matte MCH one is a nice slender rifle too, appreciate it's not too simple and the blue detailing on around the base

[little bison]

after the first 2 relic, this whm one made it worth grinding for

[dry remnant]

yes

[latent lagoon]

i fucked up

[neon dove]

@vagrant temple What ultimate

[silent oriole]

by allah, would it kill them to make good looking relics once in a while

[round turret]

theres the ones that were in the patch notes thats it

[oak crest]

That makes much more sense. Ty

[unkempt spire]

Samurai dudes out there you deserve to complain about your new relic it’s actually bad sorry to say

[fast warren]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-reload-gun-gif-19444267

[terse cargo]

@vagrant temple final relic is stronger then the promise weapon so more then likely is

[floral idol]

definitely wouldn't make sense but the || anima || in endwalker already has me hyped enough

[torpid yoke]

i feel like people are a little on edge here

[vagrant temple]

tea and uwu

[ember meadow]

I love these peaceful discussion every patchday

[fast warren]

Mch relic be like

[thorny nova]

The 515 one is still better because the substats arent melds

[fast ivy]

what happened to the relic links i was looking at those rn

[gaunt star]

it won't matter for old ults since stats are capped anyway

[fresh grail]

I've actually really liked the first two versions of the MCH relic, they've been pretty legit

[stark perch]

DROP THE VENAT BOMB!!!!

[keen veldt]

throwing tantrums over weapon designs not gunna change anything. Go take a shower or bath and relax. If you're already relaxed, good. Stay like that.

[sour perch]

i feel like people are conflating people voicing exasperation at the relic for 'i am going to yell at someone else here for disagreeing' when that has hardly happened

[azure quail]

FFXIV: Edgewalker

[late trail]

this is literally datamine discourse so this is normal, but yes I am also getting very tired of this

[foggy coyote]

I guess you could say they're... pointing To The Edge. 😎

[upper stone]

makes me just want a real rifle job so I can stop getting these handguns

[thorny nova]

But no ones throwing a tantrum?

[thorny heron]

i think the mnk weapon is cool

[subtle pasture]

yeah where's the figure in light model drop

[stark perch]

PUMP THE FUCKING 'NAT!!!!!!!

[cold fractal]

-- https://imgur.com/a/LmNy3CX

[terse cargo]

so i glanced at the patch notes cause i just woke up at 5,diamond and emerald mounts were added to the shop??

[carmine basin]

seems the datamine guy only got as far as Zenos, Odin, and Ravana models in terms f MSQ

[silent oriole]

mimimimimimim mimimimi

[upper stone]

I mean look at gangos, rifles literally all over the place. But have you seen anyone use a rifle? Nope!

[subtle pasture]

wig.

[cosmic herald]

Bald Alisaie is cursed

[sharp scroll]

SNATCHED

[fresh grail]

Silencing peoples emotions isn't gonna make this game better, it'll make it worse. Just make space for people to be unhappy, and mentally accept that you can control your emotions, and not anyone elses. Namaste.

[cinder spindle]

the GNB one looks good if the glow wasn't too bad

[sour perch]

just emerald
diamond drop rate has been boosted though

[floral idol]

Bald Alisaie is based

[worldly garnet]

No new Deep Dungeon, no new Hildibrand, no new Allied Beast Race quests, no new ultimate, and now, to add on to it. No new Tataru outfit

[stark perch]

Alisaie looks bri'ish there innit

[azure quail]

Venat? More like Vesnack 👀

[fast ivy]

the link doesnt exist

[sour perch]

if there is anything to complain about, it's no new Hildibrand

[wind bough]

That's a huge gunblade

[sharp scroll]

okay but in all seriousness here’s Venat

[silent oriole]

when is the pakistan expansion coming

[fast ivy]

i clicked on it

[cinder spindle]

finally big gunblade

[subtle pasture]

wig

[cosmic herald]

Venat is the unique model NPC

[brisk silo]

who is venat

[zenith wagon]

Wig snatched

[wind bough]

Venat confirmed bald

[stark perch]

Why did they give her that nose

[dusky frigate]

I understand the Tataru gripe, but you were really expecting all that this patch?

[terse cargo]

@sour perchthought i saw diamond's mount as well but meh i'll double check when im able to log on as well,patch is downloading still lol...gonna beawhile but ty none the less

[crimson pollen]

My girl

[sharp scroll]

here’s her hair

[gaunt star]

If you don't know who Venat is this aint the channel to be in

[round turret]

deep dungeon is #$%&ing garbage anyways glad its not back

[subtle pasture]

WIG

[fresh grail]

Ugh I want that hair so bad

[silent oriole]

very beautuful

[whole mortar]

venat malding

[sour perch]

nah it's the same section but confusingly close to each-other

[crimson pollen]

VENAT = love. I'll fight for you and simp.

[silent oriole]

bozja > all the other shit content yall want

[gaunt star]

She’s the villain of Endwalker and we team up with Zenos to kill her calling it now

[wind bough]

it's just that one viera hair but with more wispies added

[civic tinsel]

lost action

[subtle pasture]

Oh yeah, 'm assuming Zadnor can also be entered at 71?

[thorny heron]

excited about venat

[cinder spindle]

what about ruby weapon ???

[ashen violet]

and i thought we were going to get the 80 artifact weapons but dyable for last relic step haa

[sharp sonnet]

GIMMME
Oh wait I'm a viera
Shit

[gaunt star]

I love deep dungeon

[sour perch]

i'm gonna chew on it like spaghetti

[floral idol]

3rd row 2nd column reminds me of expanding brain meme lmfao

[carmine basin]

yes according to patch notes

[torpid yoke]

yes

[terse cargo]

@sour perch ahh i see,

[stark perch]

When her hair clips through her ass >>>

[cinder spindle]

hi ayayayaya yubi yubi

[gaunt star]

is there any outfit for Tataru this time

[silent oriole]

we are deploying to zambia

[subtle pasture]

The deep dungeon-eureka bastardization lives on \o/

[ashen violet]

wasn't the hair kind of based on one of the viera hairs anyway

[stark perch]

No

[sharp scroll]

no

[wind bough]

no Tataru outfit has been found in datamine

[unreal wadi]

what's the ilvl

[unreal hound]

[gaunt star]

Imagine that the hair clips through her shadowless healer cloak

[fast warren]

me too, me too

[subtle pasture]

...also means no more BSF grinding, until I go back to other relics orz

[cosmic herald]

yeah long hair npcs are a thing

[unreal wadi]

what's the ilvl on the relic?

[drowsy belfry]

stone skin IT'S BEEN SO LONG

[terse cargo]

@stark perch did u finish the entire msq chain? a few people were saying last night it could be at the end

[carmine basin]

yubiyubi ||i dont watch her much tbh||

[ashen sluice]

535

[fast warren]

505, weird that it went down...

[gaunt star]

535

[subtle pasture]

Elsewise, is it actually confirmed Venat

[latent lagoon]

where is msq spoilers so i dont need to pay a sub for 20 mins msq?

[little bison]

tataru finally getting a new outfit?

[upper stone]

bros.... will we ever get a worthy successor to eureka...?

[coarse matrix]

535 presumably

[floral idol]

piki piki

[silent oriole]

bozja >>> eurek

[sharp scroll]

it’s her hair same as the art

[torpid yoke]

inb4 they add it in 5.58

[sour perch]

guys you're confusing this "venat" with moenbryda being brought back with brown hair dye

[fossil lava]

i just wish they uncover the mystery of CC mount

[gaunt star]

The only thing left I like from Bozja is the larsa set. This set of relics was worse than hydatos

[drowsy belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/watame-watame-shocked-watame-hololive-hololive-vtuber-gif-17948839

[finite glen]

Why won't any of these relic links work?

[azure quail]

Was low key hoping we'd get a teaser and see Zenos' scythe in game and get a model of it

[stark perch]

Fandanial and venat not even getting unique costumes I laugh

[proper scroll]

Lol y'all hated Eureka when it was first coming out

[gaunt star]

@subtle pasture considering the random bringing up of Hydaelyn last patch it makes sense

[thorny nova]

Imagine liking eureka

[gaunt star]

Relics got yeeted

[sharp scroll]

Vtubers scare tf out of me

[snow rune]

[round turret]

0 chance of killing Venat with those lyrics

[heady shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/marlon-webb-but-i-got-a-watermalon-instead-but-i-got-a-watermelon-instead-watermelon-watermelon-helmet-gif-21653567

[silent oriole]

EUREKA = etrash, BOZJA = BASED

[carmine basin]

me not time and attention span to watch vtuber stream pls understand

[sour perch]

i'm still shitting on it now, Hydatos weapons are ass, espeically the DRK one

[subtle pasture]

Oh I'm sure it's the same woman, was wondering the woman is actually named Venat

[snow rune]

[crimson pollen]

Venat will be the Minfilia that will not die - hehehehhehehe

[upper stone]

to be fair a lot of eureka did suck at launch, but after they patched it a bit it was actually super good. Bozja is complete dogshit compared to it now.

[pine relic]

can't wait to continue my relic weapon only to never use it again after switching to Reaper 🙂

[fossil lava]

so tru, pyros so much better

[cosmic herald]

The glowing woman is def Venat

[sharp scroll]

She might go by an alias tbh. Maybe HEIDI

[drowsy belfry]

https://youtu.be/6aaHNvAca1k

[foggy coyote]

Fandipshit doesn't deserve a unique outfit. It should be lame just like his fucking motive is.

[latent lagoon]

what glowing woman?

[carmine basin]

shes gonna die at the end of EW like Emet did in ShB

[cosmic herald]

As seen in the trailer

[coarse matrix]

he gets tome gear

[subtle pasture]

--Like I'm not tryin' to argue it's not Venat, just more askin' if we got the 100% on that bein' Venat yet

[torpid yoke]

You just have bad taste QuQ

[heady shadow]

i'll listen to this later i should be asleep rn

[drowsy belfry]

Hahah go sleep duder

[round turret]

nah

[heady shadow]

cant

[gaunt star]

@latent lagoon in the 5.5 trailer a woman covered in Light appears briefly behind the WoL

[sour perch]

with all due respect Rymi its glow looks like a shitty render from psychonauts

[subtle pasture]

Do I Zadnor or MSQ first

[carmine basin]

we have no other name for the woman unless someone digs msq dialogue so

[thorny nova]

Eureka is still hot trash. is there any redeeming qualities of eureka.

[misty kelp]

seems to be yet another parasol coming. has a meteor on it so probably Rising

[umbral temple]

any early maitenance finish calls yet?

[sour perch]

money

[mint axle]

She prolly gonna say "Hear, Feel, Think" either before she starts or after she's done talking to us.

[wind bough]

gil

[silent oriole]

the redeeming quality of eureka is the environment is pretty

[foggy coyote]

Have we seen datamining yet that confirms she's Venat? Like, it makes sense to ASSUME she's Venat, but to say "it def is" when we ain't got no receipts yet...

[subtle pasture]

I'm gonna MSQ first bc I need to hear the lady's VA

[worldly garnet]

@subtle pasture MSQ, because that'll get spoiled harder than Zadnor

[cosmic herald]

5.5 patch trailer, easy to miss 2:22

[foggy coyote]

Kinda cringe, bruh.

[sour perch]

idc who the lazy with the hair is i'm gonna chew on it

[wind bough]

We have no direct proof of her actually being Venat yet.

[gaunt star]

I love going into Pagos to cause drama

[torpid yoke]

money and good relic looks

[gaunt star]

@foggy coyote its definitely her

[sharp scroll]

hearing the relics, feeling the relics, but certainly not thinking about the relics

[azure quail]

New on Mogstation: Genuine Venat Bathwater!

[silent oriole]

redeeming quality of bozja: war which is cool and manly. pretty colors is for girls. BOZJA IS FOR MEN

[sour perch]

[wind bough]

It's just widely assumed based on the story trajectory thus far

[foggy coyote]

I SHALL DINE ON YOUR ENTRAILS

[crimson pollen]

I wonder if the glowing woman will just be like "Mysteryous light figure" say some mysteryous stuff then disappear and we be like "yeah...."

[thorny nova]

People like the eureka relics?

[heady shadow]

Theres no proof other then people just giving her a name.

could be Minfilia again xD

[stark perch]

Hearing feeling and thinking new tataru costume but not seeing

[gaunt star]

[subtle pasture]

🙏 that they got Mary McGlynn to reprise her mother crystal role

[versed hill]

Same woman also in Endwalker poster

[gaunt star]

@foggy coyote go eat some vegetables you damned carrot eater

[drowsy belfry]

H-haha yeah who...who would like this. CERTAINLY NOT ME. Nope haha

[upper stone]

tataru too busy making her own new costume

[subtle pasture]

--I almost wrote mommy crystal on reflex but, u-uh

[gaunt star]

there is no tataru outfit this expac

[brazen trout]

https://ffxivcollect.com/mounts/247 wait there's a 3rd new mount? :O

[cosmic herald]

that glowing woman from the 2:22

[misty kelp]

whut? i'm confused

[steel swan]

I love some eureka weapons, especially books

[drowsy belfry]

Please don't look in my retainers

[foggy coyote]

wut

[carmine basin]

I just want to know if it is Venat and if she's thicc as part of my thesis about Hydaelyn's apparent thiccness /s

[gaunt star]

@versed hill ye ik and she also holds an Ancients mask

[versed hill]

Datamined back in 5.5

[sour perch]

oh right warmachina

[gaunt star]

Everyone in pagos is usually already agitated it doesn't take much to stir them up

[sullen minnow]

might not be added until 5.58

[round turret]

crystal mom loves she no die

[gaunt star]

venat is definitely the villain of EW

[misty kelp]

i didn't say anythign about pagos. i haven't even touched that zone

[azure quail]

Thicc Hydaelyn? Tell me more...

[round turret]

no

[gaunt star]

Ure the villain of EW

[unkempt spire]

So what is it right now, 180 runs for the final relic or 90 runs for the final relic? Here you guys said its 90 + 15, in the Balance discord it pinned 180 + 15 runs

[foggy coyote]

mods detected. activating ban seeking missles.

[sour perch]

people will openly flame in pagos if you pull Crab 0.2s late

[gaunt star]

Venat uses Felezen

[subtle pasture]

--I hope McGlynn will do "Venat" bc iirc they recycled her voice lines as the sampling for Venat's Ancient warbling in 5.2,

[visual sand]

Do you need to be a higher rank or do any new bozja stuff to unlock the new relic steps?

[stark perch]

Idk venat wasn't a villain in 12 so I doubt it

[round turret]

0 chance we got pld then edgelord yeet ehr

[crimson pollen]

Inc rage when Cruise Chaser is next Feast season reward loooooool

[gaunt star]

neither was Fandaniel, Emet, Elidibus...

[wind bough]

puttin me on Hydaelyn Cultist alert here

[gaunt star]

30 alexander normal
30 omega normal
30 eden normal
15 70 dungeons

[fast warren]

Venat was definitely a villain in 12.

[sturdy marten]

all the occuria are kind of villains in xii though

[gaunt star]

grrr pull!!! omg respect pull time!!!

@stark perch doesn't matter what she is on other games tbh

[coarse pelican]

Wait. Did they really removed the jumpscare from the Nier tower?

[fast warren]

She might have had good motives at heart but Venat was 100% a villain, especially being Vayne's basically 2nd in command.

[gaunt star]

On the plus side.because the final relics forms look so bad it will free me up time to catch the new big fish.

Wait that was scary?

W-wha

[sturdy marten]

is there anything for nier?

did they uncover anything about cruise chaser?

[wind bough]

They adjusted something in tower for accessibility reasons, presumably something that was an epilepsy hazard.

[low spindle]

The jump scare? I figured it was about the flashing strobe like effect.

[brazen trout]

think it might be both

[azure quail]

People were having seizures

[subtle pasture]

I'd understand like, slowing it down and making it less a potential epilepsy warning, but removing it entirely is

[wind bough]

Not because something was scary. And we don't know exactly what was removed yet.

[gaunt star]

I believe they removed it for epilepsy reasons

[foggy coyote]

The person who said it was the jumpscare admitted they were joking.

[gaunt star]

Witness to the Dark Apocalypse title, nothing else

[low spindle]

I mean first thing I thought of when I ran that raid was epilepsy, yeah.

[gaunt star]

Oh OK

[steel swan]

Instead of doing this relic phase, I might finish leveling my jobs to 80

[drowsy belfry]

Yeah there's a good few flashing screens

[wary perch]

They remove the red girl smile?

[boreal forge]

[foggy coyote]

I JUST SAID

[wind bough]

probably not

[uncut gale]

Whats the grind for last step?

[cosmic herald]

ofc they didn't have the vas for nier raids so they left them unvoiced while e8, e11 and e12 are voiced

[subtle pasture]

Cruelty is a bad flash and so is the extra one (with face) that's the transition to hack phase

[gaunt star]

me waiting for maint to end early

[fresh grail]

They'll likely have to adjust a few things in the new fleshy looking dungeon too - a lot of people with sensory disorders are gonna have a rough time.

[azure quail]

They might have just toned it back a bit

[crimson pollen]

Venat church has opened - we stan her

[wind bough]

Read the patch notes!

[drowsy belfry]

It's in the pins

[boreal forge]

adjusted != removed

[tender cape]

Anyone know the name of the relics

[wind bough]

How are we going to tell Venat stans apart from the Hydaelyn Cultist oh no

[wary perch]

Message pumping very fast so I didn't catch some reply. Ops

[gaunt star]

Trash

[gaunt star]

Dookie

[gaunt star]

Trypophobia gang

[cosmic herald]

paradigm's breach hits different after replicant

[heady shadow]

in times like these you just need the infinity glove.

[round turret]

no ways she is a villian i actually think the final boss will be an asspull like necron in FF9 likely one of the 12

[latent lagoon]

cruelty aoe give me eye seizures

[cinder basin]

Any new glamour piece, like the scion traveller this time or nah?

[subtle pasture]

There was a post showing the replica names but I believe them to be named like "Blade's Temperance," "Blade's Euphoria," "Blade's Muse"

[carmine basin]

Exhibit one /s

[subtle pasture]

--haven't seen something to properly show which was what class orz

[fresh grail]

Ye, and that is a super common one for the ASD crowd. I'm glad they're keeping disabled peeps in by making adjustments like this

[brazen trout]

NOOOOYUUU

[floral idol]

Maxfillia

[hollow folio]

Lost Reraise seems so broken for DRS :

Reraise Effect: Grants an 80% chance of automatic revival upon KO
Duration: 180m```

[ashen wyvern]

as far as we know, no. There might be some with an unexpected name we haven't found yet though

[drowsy belfry]

"wow he was right, it really isn't flat."
5 seconds after Warrior of Light arriving on the Moon

[foggy coyote]

lol

[subtle pasture]

the 80% Reraise was used in Eureka, that RNG was vile in BA

[cosmic herald]

Jannequinard DESTROYS Flat Hydaelyn theorists with FACTS and LOGIC

[stark perch]

I doubt they'll redesign an entire dungeon

[cinder basin]

Thanks

[late trail]

https://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/1f156491e61722ff68ba0507bc3d941f56a0df3e maintenance extended

[latent lagoon]

lol

[turbid aspen]

FUCK

[pine relic]

:/

[heady shadow]

Oh boy

[gaunt star]

Body slam yoship

[crimson pollen]

ITS EXTENDED - its time, just do it - just DROP THE LORE BOMB

[carmine basin]

(btw jannequinard is talking about Hydaelyn the planet, just to be clear)

[sullen minnow]

extended maint to fix those horrible weapons lol

[brazen trout]

for how long?

[floral idol]

2 more hours?

[stark perch]

EMERGENCY MAINTENCE!!! Issue discovered where tataru costume is not in game

[coarse pelican]

Thank you 🙂

[floral idol]

so 2 hours from now.

[ashen sluice]

i thought the balance discord had banned all their datamining channels

[late trail]

extended by 1h 30m

[tender cape]

Ty^^

[turbid aspen]

THANK GOD

[ashen sluice]

or did they reverse that decision

[fresh grail]

wait they extended it to 20:30?

[forest harbor]

Well rip there goes hope of me doing MSQ before work

[turbid aspen]

damn my ass is playing tomorrow then

[floral idol]

20:30 JP time yes, so 2 hours and 10 mins from now.

[gaunt star]

jp

[azure quail]

Maintenance time extended to remove summoner relic

[sturdy marten]

ah ty

[fresh grail]

aaaah

[fast warren]

More time to fail to get my Shaman to 55 before TBC officially launches then

[floral idol]

they said it's due to server optimization in this announcement

[sharp sonnet]

Yes please, it shouldn't exist

[lusty herald]

Hopefully they realized they forgot the glow ...

[gaunt star]

Maybe they were fake weapons put in to throw off dataminers

[wary perch]

Whoa, iirc this is the first time they extend the maintenance

[hazy moon]

OH COME ON