#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
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i don't think cid got replaced. he sounds a bit gruffer compared to stormblood but still largely the same voice in general.
but even aymeric is a bit off (but i'm also pretty sure he's also still same VA)
hell,the thing im debating on is either waking up early or pulling an allnighter so i can download and at least try to do the main story in the morning before work,i think it should be up at 5/6 est,that gives me a slight timeframe for gaming.....granted if its 6 im boned regardless,but i'll at least have it downloaded!...hopefully
Normally we stay up for patches but given its just msq and realic we're not doing it this time ill wake up a bit earlier at least
Every relic patch I've been staying up
Well waking up 2 hours before hand to drink, cook food, wake the fuck up
yeah,no way in hell would i beable to do the neir epligoeu stuff or bojza before work,but i think for main story i hopefully can have finished before i have to leave,depending on when the server comes up
yeah,i missed a week so i'll need to do that weekly first lol,completely forgot about it fuck knows how 1 week
though im thinking it was the week i was doing diamond farming
Neir stuff wont be long probably
that's what you think
yeah,i can see it being a 3 quest chain to end it honestly
If Nier new game plus is released as well then it's not game over
@strange wing isnt that when u know the story is over? if u get the achivement and new game plus added?
In Yoko Taro games the New Game plus usually just part two of the story. Probably won't happen here but it is a possibility.
Oh god i can see it
as crazy as that sounds......there is a 6 month content lull to think off.....i mean could they have planned something like that out ahead of time,doubt it...but now,anything is possible
Until I see The End I refuse to believe the story is over.
aymeric is definitely the same but sounds less like hawkwood (ds3 character he also voices), voice is generally cleaner
but i think that can be explained through voice actors recording at home
@stiff charmprobbly explains cid as well,voicing at home...we will find out tommarrow in the end credits for sure though,because motoya's the only 1 who offically should have changed,anyone else would be a surprise at best
It's rough not voicing a character for years then having to voice them again
yeah,esecally when you have no access to a studio because of a world wide pandemic.... though with things having been opening up US wide the past number of months because of the vaccine(say what u want about the shot,but it is the reason most states arent still in lockdown) but maybe in end walker they will beable to go back into the studio and record if they havent already
dunno, their studio iirc is based in UK
Meanwhile, some of us are waiting for the story to get good.
Because you know... 'can't say it's bad until the end'
US situation does not impact FF14's voice acting situation.
@maiden lodge i mean considering the VA's were at home instead of a studio it kinda does,if we didnt have covid they would have been doing it where they actually work
Not a thing you really 'plan' for, like if they had the manpower to fill that lull they'd have had the manpower to deliver at the time expected. Yoshi-P made an executive decision for his team.
Are the current VAs located in the US?
no
I think the cadence they discussed in 2018s fan fest died with the pandemic. They are moving forward, IE the DC addition. But not as quickly as they'd like. Plus the COVID surge ahead of the Olympic may constrain travel in Japan.
well, i imagine that most of them are in the UK or surrounding areas for the EN since its a UK studio
that said tho, alisaie's EN VA did a interview a bit ago and mention its being done in studio but i'm not entire sure if that was just for endwalker or if that included the post shb patches
I'm PRETTY sure that included patches but I can't remember if it was 5.5+ or included 5.4
might depend on when they actually did the voice overs,i actually didnt think any of them werent from the states,but i know england's had its fair share of covid lockdowns as well as surges...so it probbly depends on how their rate has been lately
It also helps that we have more context on Soken and that might have affected the work flow.
You know I'm crossing my fingers I know it won't happen but I'm crossing them I really really hope that they switch out borderless as the generic Mount music
God, as much as borderless is a decent song, it gets quite annoying
thats probbly why there's more options then just the generic mounts to chose from...i mean yeah i'll admit i went generic for most of the expansion,but once i killed neo exdeath and got his mount,never looked back to generic,and i've swapped a few times since
Tbh I turned off mount music like a year and half ago and never looked back. The abrupt volume changes when moving/stopping was pretty bad, and most zones have beautiful music
Same
I turn it back on for like
The Titan mount, sometimes, but
The balalala mount
I haven't had it turned on in years.
so funny b/c tmr when we see zenos with the scythe i’m gonna replay that cutscene everyday until EW launch
Im very curious how sideways we're gonna go tomorrow.
2.55 is the king of the "Oh no" expac closer but I certainly dont mind if they take another run at that title.
i hope its more "uh oh" than "oh no" so it doesnt feel super jarring having to wait 6 months
i love 2.55 but the gap was probably really weird (i didnt play back then so idk)
It was a bit but you were invested, I'll tell you that lol
patch notes doko
And curious how it would be if you got to play shadowbringers without the gap after stormblood
Oh that's me dyce
it was a bit weird, but at the same time its one of those things that you have to accept it would be major ass if you couldn't access one of the major cities
I get to found out where scions go immediately I guess
like imagine being immortal flames and not being able to turn in any gear until heavensward released?
they atleast gave certain npc dialogue that gives nod to the whole situation
Just an unfortunate part of being a m m o have to break that story immersion a little
You can't really place restriction in MMO games unless it's to an area that's optional/doesn't have anything important in it
Can we even get back to the area where you get the ifrit trial
Like 5.4 restricting access to the garden in Ala Mhigo
newp
I think I tried once but I couldn't find it
little waiting areas like that aren't able to be returned to once you're past the quest (outside ng+ ofc)
Ng plus i guess
ala mhigo's menagerie being an exception to this since a lot of people asked for it to be enterable again
Fortunately they're being better about permitting revisits
Wait you can enter it again after 5.5? I didn't check again
Oh wait I misread what you mean
yeah they opened that up years ago
not sure, haven't checked. was mostly referring to back in 4.0
i would assume the fires were put out with 5.5 release
Was talking about the 5.4 closing it off dis, but I misread Kael when she's talking about 4.x
i think in 5.4 they had a message of how u could re enter it,i think NG plus was mentioned.....for the life of me i cannot exactly remember though
do they usually tell us where the MSQ's are when a new patch drops?
Yes
They tell you the starting location for the first one and the rest are ??
But its starting in mor dhona probably
@chrome sundialpatch notes tell u it,but like agent says its more likely in the rising stones because thats where 5.4 started from post shb story ending
that's what I figured
also,part 1 ended there as well,so tataru will more then likely start part 2,either her or alisaie
I hope they have a special site for it like they do for the other patches. I always like those a lot and viewing them
@chrome sundial yeah theres a special site they update just before or after each patch live letter,i know they updated it with the pics from the fanfest live letter
there is one already, for 5.5
probably going to be the rising stones
that's like where 90% of the post msq starts anyway
@clever flume not to mention its where part 1 ended too,im actually curious how part 2 will start,been alot of debate about the "end walker scion gear" think people think we are getting it in part 2,but i honestly cant remember not getting those glams till the start of stormblood and shadowbringers expansion main story
nah theyre at the final patches for each expansion
both scion adventurer and scion traveler were in part 2 of the .5 patch msq
so we should be getting it tommarrow then,maybe tataru will be the quest starter then for that fact alone
Dont quote me but i think they give it to you on the last quest
I may be wrong for heavensward though
heavensward was the 2nd quest (there's 4 for part 2) and stormblood was the last quest (only 2)
so assuming they follow stormblood and only add 2, then it will probably be the last quest, but if there's more it may be before it
I... Think there's gonna be like 5 quests minimum
Or theres only gonna be 2-4 but theyre thicc af
almost thinking they follow the stormblood path,we had the solo duty the first quest,then the second was more or less the "expansion epilogue prep"
Theres 100% a solo duty
ohh yeah i have no doubts,with lunar odin and ravana having been in the trailer,im not denying we're not getting a solo duty
we're fighting at least one or both of them tommarrow,personally i hope its odin......sword duel 😄
I just hope we see zenos's sytche
Zenos is probably gonna take out a tertiary character with that scythe. Maybe even a secondary.
big brain = logging off in the rising stones
Hope so.
4.55 was kinda like "....and its done."
no prelim patch notes? 🤔
no, minor patches don't get prelims. just major patches
Nope
dammit
What do minor patches do?
but we'll still get patch notes, I presume
as there's quite a bit of stuff being added
yes, ofc there will be patch notes sometime after maint stats
just no reason for there to be prelims.
well tbh I wanted to know what exactly they're doing with the 5.45 relic grind
like if they're buffing rewards from DR (for example)
Imagine if the final relic appearances turn out to be glowy versions of the 430 AF weapons.
the ones drops in Delebrum probably will drop from the new area in fates
rank 15-25 area
cos I feel like with the timeworn artifacts, if they buffed it to 3 per DR run, it'd be a bit more worth it
I'd be okay with that, since I wanna spend time in the new area instead of grinding DR for the 8 more I artifacts I need lol
the grind 18 + 18 , maybe they should put that into Delebrum. That one time unlock is madness.
Final glow of relic this patch? The final version of relics always so badass - I can't wait!

im in default mentor mode my apologies
yeah I'm confused what @clever flume was saying to tell us...
You had me rethinking my life then @clever flume
i thought i was in #questions-and-help no lie
yeah I was worried 
the same discussion is going on there, I can understand your confusion @clever flume
finished e9 in 9 minutes
thats a bad e9 run
They tied the previous phase of Relic to PotD so I assume the final one will tie HoH? I was hoping they'd do something to increase Eureka but I guess that could contradict the bozjan zone
Even Kael mistakes this channel as #questions-and-help

Yay name switched
yo chances of us getting susano weapons as a sneak add in lel
HoH would make more sense than eureka I think
i see questions being asked, i assume its qnh
No trials to be spoiled so I can finally check datamines 
Solo trial tho
48man
Also relic duty
or something
I don't think this is gettting a savage idr
I mean we already know it's gonna be Lunar Ravana and... Odin?
its not @ mrs dice
I don't care for Bozja spoilers since by the time I do them, I already get spoiled
I hope we get a glamour from Tataru
I hope the next armour set doesn't require the upgraded ones from DRS to upgrade again or I'mma sudoku
nah, no savage, it's a CLL equivalent
Where will the datamined stuff be posted? Here?
yup
I'm not going to read datamine stuff.
I like looking around in the game files, so I will probably post a couple models, etc
but I won't post any dialogue
I'm hoping so too
Datamines go here
It’s gonna be lit af
I just wanna see the new relics and glamours
i swear if ninja gets another shit relic
I want to see everything down to the last QA comment that somehow wasn’t taken out
hahhahaah I remember that
What’s our odds on seeing a bunny mans this patch?
I reported it as a bug - hopefully it gets fixed in 5.55
I wonder what will be available to datamine besides weapons/relics
not happening
Aw 
or well an npc male viera is extremely unlikely
Literally anything could show up in the files but the new races not likely
wonder how many quests for MSQ? Maybe three or four?
I expected to be better than stormblood ending
I really hope we get a trial or something
between 2-4 probably
ayyy new channel
and we'll probably see another "this cutscene will take a while, set aside some time"
Were not
There will be a solo duty
Aw
I know we gonna get another cliffhanger I can feel it in my knees
It looks like a duty where we play as G’raha
There will be a solo Duty and the relics duty
There should be a kill some lunar primals duty
WoL is coming
I wouldn't mind that
patch notes running late eh
Patch notes arent for a bit yet
Also I guess whatever the Konogg quests are leading to as well. Would love to see a Bro Nier outfit xD
Maintenance just started. Give it a little more
Every time you ask for patch notes they get delayed by 5 minutes
!patch notes
patch notes generally aren't for a few hours into maint so no., not really
patch notes will come when they upload the new patch itself I think
When does datamining usually hit? Around when the new patch goes live right?
Data miners will also be hungry tonight because new relics
Once it’s available to download people will start up
I mean what is to data mine if there is no patch to download
patch notes are late
I just thought it was like PSN where you can download the patch but still not play til the timer is up xD
they're LATE
didn't 4.55 patch notes drop at 8pm

4.55 was 24 hours tho wasn't it?
have the patch notes been released yet
any chance they'll delay diamond merchant?
Fingers crossed monk final relics isn't trash.monk deserves some glam love.
Question is, what sort of costume is Tataru gonna give us this time?
I dont rmbr >_<
More like 2 years or so
rephrase any chance diamond merchant wont be in this patch
Monk has bun fists it never needs anything else
diamond won't be on totems this patch
was just seeing if anyone has a link to the patch notes
Sexy Sharlayan outfit
anyone know of any fun third party websites to check on during maintenance periods before a big patch if you catch my drift 
It'll be emerald and then diamond will be in 5.57/8 probably
Yes please
Well for monk I use kettles or pyris knuckles.
Is 5.55 not the final patch this expansion?
any chance raid will unlock this patch
I want Forchenault's outfit real bad
no there's 2 more
In terms of content it is the final patch
There's supposed to be a few more minor patches
5.57 and 5.58
5.58 will likely be the last yeah
not likely, it will be
was just seeing if anyone had the link to the patch notes
we were given a road map during the digital fanfest
Notes won't be up for a bit
patch notes aren't up yet
We still have DC Travel coming before the expansion
no one's sure when they drop
What's usually in the .57 and .58 patches? Just gameplay additions?
More casual side stuff and features
usually clean up patches. bug fixes, unlocking stuff etc
Imagine getting stuck in another DC like they had you being stuck in another world for 5.5
5.58 will most likely just be bug fix and diamond being added to totems. that was literally it for 4.58
I hope we can spend those gold db coins on the new ff12 glam. I have so many of them
and also datacenter travel
There's definitely a fate in azim that I think is bug it literally starts and they instantly kill the guy
I won't be doing DC Travel until a week after it launches for this reason
since 5.58 is pretty much the best time to add it, nothing major will likely be part of the patch and its gonna be decent downtime before the expac
I can see that happening to Balmung players
I could see 5.58 being 24 hour maint
Likely there will be a lot of issues over items loving through data centres.
Movinh
No All Saints Wake, SE hates Halloween
Wait endwalker releases on the 11th?when did that change?
11 is November
Has it been said if cross DC marketboard use will be a thing? I haven't seen anything, I'd be surprised if we could use marketboard visiting other data centers tbh
Japanese uses numbers to indicate months instead of names
Ah
Matoya relict is our Saints Wake 2021
it shouldnt be tbh for dc travel
Oh man I can't wait for September
Will finally get the XV stuff after joining a week after it ended originally xD
i think people are getting a bit too excited with them not having all saints on that. its most likely just didn't fit
We are due Halloween glams this time right?
like the people thinking they're smooshing moonfire and rising into one event instead of simply back to back (like it always is) since they're on the same box
That halloween event has been fucking shit everytime "Hey turn into NPCs and run around a haunted house" 
So I'm glad it's gone.
They could fit in the XV collab though. And I feel like if Halloween event is indeed coming, they'd say so like "we don't have all saints wake shown but we do plan on having it this year"
people cant think kael, you know this
there's no reason to assume its gone just because it not on the time line
It's so weird how they didnt mention the halloween event this time. Since October comes between september and november
I miss the holloween duty
I hope the holloween event happens
That should be like a perm thing in the gold saucer
They could throw it in with a December even I suppose, but that would feel weird
The Nightmare Before Christmas crossover in December
I'm also hoping they have the halloween event, but they kinda have a pattern of not mentioning something if it's not coming (or addressing it if it's coming late)
https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/patch_timeline.jpg like look at the one from the shadowbringers fanfest
Datamine happen yet?
I think they could line it up with endwalker release for maximum edgelord glam
no download yet, so no data to mine
What seasonal event did they not show here, easter and ladies day?
hatchingtide, little ladies day, and make it rain aren't even on there
Since I feel like that particular one isn't meant to show seasonal events bc they're a given at that point
man was moonfaire always that late into summer?
Valentines Day event this year was sad with no maze
Ya moonfire is always near the end of summer
Tho honestly I don't mind if they skip seasonal (just a bit upset we're missing out on free rewards while mogstation gets updated) since they do have to work on the expansion
Its why make it rain was invented to be early summer event.
For the maze my make roe got teamed with male lala.looked odd xd
strange, shouldn't the lodestone be down now?
this years summer reward got me hyped and wish it came sooner T_T
The chicken suit?
We should have patch notes any second
Did you already know the reward? Since it got datamined. ||It's the polar bear mount||
I still wonder where our wind up titania and innocence are
Give me a little fat vauthry minion
With his dumb fat small bee wings
my friend and I have been saying that since Friday. the hype is real. >_<
Reward for the upcoming events are: make it rain ||new emote||, moonfire faire ||polar bear mount||, rising ||lyna minion||
Will we get sosex augments eventually?
Patch notes for x.x5 patches dont drop till day of patch while maint happens
countdown until the Cruise Chaser mount ends up being TT reward
Since they did Hades weps I've been stuck piling on SHB trial mats
I forgot where Runar minion ends up from
do we not know where the resshi outfit is from?
its artbook @carmine basin
wait?? I thought the new || zaori|| was moonfaire??
no
Where the <censored> is my Feo Ul minion, seriously, how is she not the most obvious minion ever???
unless its mogstation then id be sad 😦
I have 16 Armor of lights from SoSEX ready to make money when those weps become craftable
polar bear??? during the summer ???
No it's not moonfire. Confirmed it with garland tools that already has the moonfire quest up
I kinda hope it is bc I'm loving PF being full of people grinding the duties I still need cards from 😂
||polar bear is the summer reward||
||polar bear delivers ice cream to all the beach goers||
when are the patch notes going to be up?
ReviewBrah!
soon
Eventually
Keep asking and I'll turn this game around
the more people ask the more it will never be up
Wait how the heck a summer event give a winter themed mount?
Hmmm... Did they say what the reward is going to be for getting all TT cards?
Is there a reason people think this? The reward for TT cards has always been more TT cards
No, we dont know what the TT card reward will be
I love how back a few hours before 5.5 I casually joked about CC being TT reward and has been on everyone's mind since then
I bet they trick us and release crafted Susan weapons instead xd
just it was a reward. cruze chaser mount is like fat cat earrings: it just exists at the moment
No but there's lots of speculation it'll be the mount
Something to do with the event itself, I didn't read the dialogue bc I don't want to be spoiled but it makes sense with the event story
Please don't be CC please don,t be CC please don't be cc
Cruise chaser mount could be from anything
People thought the Cerberus was MGP and were dead set on believing it was without proof
Cruise Chaser mount is notably unique and untradeable btw, so not bozja lootbox
I thought cerb was gonna be Omega BLU
I frigging rushed 120 cards in a week cause I was scared it could be I'm 13 cards away from all of them
and the two seater they showed would most liekyl be from savage
It's prob gonna be an achievement reward of some kind. Some people were thinking relating to duels in new bozja area
Ever bozja content since BSF has had 2 mounts
I mean its an achievement Yolo, its always gonna be there
Imagine brute justice mount ._.
There is no savage in this update, it's more like CLL
Didnt they say no more savage bozja?
oh no more savage bozja :o?
yeah i think it was in the LL
Yeah, but for example, I'd expect it to be a lot more annoying to get tournament platinum cards etc if a lot more people are doing it
Bsf has d construct 14. And gabriel.
DR had golden gabriel and savage had Cerberus.
Zadnor has balthier hoverbike and ???
Duels feel like savage
Yeah, iirc they said DRS will be bozja hardest content
wow thats an ez 2 seater unless its behind gacha lootbox
Zadnor is another zone like BSF and will end with a alliance dungeon like BSF
At least platinum packs aren't impossible to get even with people cheating the tournament ranks
I wish they'd move CLL to Duty Finder queue >_>
That's impossible
I'm looking forward to my wipes in zadnor because people still don't learn to use essences
where da patch notes at?
Love the content but instance hopping is a chore
^^
Is it November yet?
CLL isnt built as a seperate instance. And theyd have to develop CLL as its own content seperate from BSF if they wanted it to be queue able from outside of bozja
Wake me up when september ends
Is it November yet?
I hope they don't; if you stick around in the instance and do CEs it speeds up the timer before CLL pops again so it isn't a full hour
I know but still.
Why did it spam it twice? Damn discord lol And Fall needs to come here sooner
Can't wait till November.fishing on the moon.living the dream.
I wonder how powerful the resistence honors are gonne be
and can they be used in DRS
probably not that substantial since you can stack them
but i assume they would be usable in DRS
Should be substantial at 8 stacks or something lol
you'd prob need like yeah that
yeah but like 8 stacks across 48 people could be significant
The only way I'll accept fishing on the moon if its inside the Moon, otherwise immersion ruined lol
but they said it would be time consuming and not to burn yourself out over getting them
SPACEFISHIN
but of course ppl are going to burn themselves out because they can't help themselves and then they'll complain that they're burnt out lol
farming memories defeintely burning me out lmao. I have like 6 weapons to update on :/
What about spear fishing? Xd
so no news about the patch notes yet
Nope
could be madman like @drowsy belfry and have everything up to speed 🙂
I'm expecting DRS to end up like modern BA in a month or 2 after this updatr
doing 15 run of delubrum for the item is just agonizing to me
Patch notes should be at 12 EST
yeah i was gonna do all relics but then when i saw how much CT and DR you had to run i said nope only doing 3 and even then it's kinda pointless for me now too cuz it just glam
Where frag farm groups just mow their way to the end and take new people
i didn't mind it personally. 2/3 runs a day wasn't that bad
It is when most do their best to make the run take an hour by not using essence.
Hoping that Zadnor will make the grind from 13 to 15 expedited.
Id probably be in bozja more if memories dropped alongside clusters xD
Wishlist: Nerf 20 20 20 step down to 15 15 15. Nerf DRN step to 10. lol
I reached r13 today and oml the gap from 14 has me 😬
this is what i mean lol
I hope we get more steps to use blue magen for relic
I doubt the numbers will be nerfed down, but ways to obtain might be eased a little
like rank doesnt even freakin gmatter as ooposed to elemental rank in eureka xD
the 20/20/20 isn't too bad with BLUE
Maxed mettle after a few DR runs for my relic >_>
wishlist:
- DRN gets buffed from 1 to 3 timeworn per run
- future relics become easier to complete once you've completed your first relic
haven't really gotten any runs that were an hour long
That's why I'm not on the game much now. I don't want to be burnt out when Endwalker comes. .5 patch is usually when I take a long break from the game
Wait you need r15 for zadnor? I didn't remember much from PLL
I imagine the FATEs and CEs will give out more mettle than SF though
Wait till you see 14 - 15 
its the fuckin CLL and DR steps
yeah I saw 700k? im like????? how many runs of DR is that??
you don't need 15 for zadnor but you will want the levels so you can appraise the new stuffs
Should only need rank 10 because I think the LL said you just had to complete the STQ story so far which doesn't need 15
Just beat DR
I've seen people mention 100 min Dr runs before
I really really wanna do CLL but the requirements for it to pop and the hassle of spawning them are annoying
requirements are simple for CLL though
i can't take that long of a break cuz of my houses
You get 48k in DR sooo... idk. I always skip the math robot.
Not to mention the chance that people in BSF not queuing CLL
I hate maths boss with every fibre of my being
no savage bozja content means its probably going to be like Baldesion Arsenal
Oh I just refresh the house every month lol
first run in a new instance: 60 min after open
subsequent runs: every 90 mins after first pop entry
Thing is start thr new zone at rank 10 will put you very behind if the zadnor endgame need like rank 20
Unless they buff rank 1-15 mettle exp gain
oh ok you don't end your sub then
oh boy i cant wait to play with ppl of varying skill levels and watching drama unfold
I put too much into my house to lose it lol
i remember ppl would groan and moan when someone caused a wipe with last mechanic against ozma
It really doesn't take long to get from 10-15 if you're doing skirmishes and CEs. I think I got from about 12-15 in an afternoon (including 1DR run)
The one I n wiping city?
no
BA?
BA
24 raid salts are entertaining xD
How long until patch to cone in
patch comes when it comes
when it's ready
The more we ask the longer it takes
patches are like baking a cake
watched kettle never boils etc. etc.
They always get burned?
Boiled kettle never watches
Baldesion arsenal, eureka version of DR
Yeah I know. The person above was asking about Ozma
Ohh
PSA: Please use the damn essences in DR 🙂
Best run I had in Dr normal was 19 mins
I had 30 minutes earlier tonight
I did DR once to clear and never set foot in it again. Was an awful experience but I was Rank 11 at the time and on a job I was not 100% comfortable with.
DR gets more fun with essences and also not caring about mettle
I had to switch jobs because going over it for the 30th time is really making me sleepy.
Use lost incense on a melee and watch the.tank get mad trying to get agro off you xd
font of power I enjoy using 🙂 all the other ones (honored sac,etc) make me sweat for my healers. Cause they def cant heal me during that small window lol
Imagine those who do more than a few weapons
duelist with honored sac nulifies the damage done to you btw
I like using reflect on the tank buster in... Trinity I think it is? Icy hot fight.
oh 😮 I didnt realized that
I've seen people fail the reflect and get one shot xd
You can reflect the tank buster and "glory of bozja" but be super careful or you're dead on the TB lol
I thought youd want to stack uh skirmirser or any other essence that boost dmg along with honored sac related essence to boost dmg
I enjoy DR when it doesn't take an hour
It's not the same step tho that's the problem XD
duelist is the one that removes the damage done with the deep essence that is
Oh I know I’m just comparing the two
I run honoured sacrifice on monk.
I want to see what would happen if all 48 people bring reflecta and reflect the buster
I'd love to see if it stacked like that
Or more like “I rather torture my soul with WoD than with DR”
And second usually either rend or lost incense
crap but duelist requires r15 to unlock 🥴
At least if it's CT raid or DR I can switch when I get bored of one.
It's super fun when you are tanking on monk so the 2 warriors can use irregular xd
They better.not.make me go to hero's gauntlet.for it.im.sick of seeing that.dungeon
so sadge eh
DUDE RIGHT
it feels they skipped a step entirely with the relic
This is the first time an AF gear doesn’t get a shiny
I wonder if this last step is gonna be fusing Laws Order with the AF to make it glow lol
theres no conection between the 430 and the 485 weapons
they pretty much did since it started so late
Wasn't eureka also delayed a lot
it never made sense that we just make these relics from literal powder lol
eureka was slightly delayed, yes
I think most.of us want to forget about Eureka final relics so makes.sense to.start with.a clean slate
but that was anemos, the other regions came out mostly in the appropriate time line
Gerolt doesn't--he just uses the stuff we get and do as added masterwork materials on top of his mundane genius
yeah i mostly meant anemos
murgleis anemos best anemos weapon tbh
Technically speaking we have the same number if steps as Eureka relic. But their all original this time rather than the first step being s glowy AF weapon
sad that even with the relic theres no option to make the old weathered 430 dyable
Did Hydatos come out in .55 or .5
.5 i think? with ba in 55
Hmm...
just hope ninja can get a relic thats good thistime lol
Ninja zeta.all.u.need
they'll absolutely do something with the weathered weapons if they don't with this relic
Please anything better than Hydatos PLD
Future Crafted Go
hehe
I love Sasuke's Blades but the gf thinks they're meh xD
you need a new gf
Eureka weapons were pretty bad looking overall
Did you see dragoon hydatos or the.monk one.pld.got off lightly
i have high hopes for whatever they do for this relic
ph yeah nin relic this step is ... questionable atleast compared to 1st stage lol
yea
Elemental lance was soooooo waaaat
Eureka DRK and Eureka RDM were the only cool ones IMO
glowy rave sticks thanks i hate it
i wouldn't have high hopes tbh lol ppl are alwaays going to be disappointed in one way or another
I had a friend who nearly quit the game completely after seeing Law’s Order NIN daggers.
wow imagine quitting a game over a glamor lol
yeah but i think the relics have been pretty good so far. regardless i won't be mad if i'm disappointed
i was saved by seiryus daggers tbh
She prefers Zurvan's blades xD
Oh excuse me paintbrushes
Pagos/Pyros PLD was literally some pre level 50 ARR vendor shit
can't satisfy everyone
oh drg spear 1st step and maybe 2nd step are hella clean
ngl a lot of laws order look pretty disappointing
The relics have looked.great this expansion though.....
wpn glam is highly subjective lol
Warrior axe is amazing
Lots of people prefer Pyros relics over final Eureka stage relics
ninj weapons look worse than anima
Unpopular opinion: Laws Order BRD weapon is awesome
D:
Whatever makes you happy lol
I really don't get the color choice on that lol
Some auras also just look naturally on some forms than others. What works for a sword might not work for an axe.
Law Order weapons do look really nice
I'd have to justify playing bard though.
I wanna see how the scholar weapon looks
Green aura on a reddish-brown crossbow? Why?
Complimentary colors.
Red and green compliment well
Love the first step though
I'm torn on whether PLD Zodiac or PLD Anima look better
a shame we can't have different variations of glow on the relics, perhaps let the stats affect the colour or rng it so people have reason to re-farm them
depends on what you want for glam
Stats affecting colors will go over horrible lol
end step pld anima doesnt fit their colour scheme at all
Well he has anima in cut scene for next expansion
'You mean I need to go piety to look nice? Gross!'
the blue step is what i keep for pld
Yeah I have both and the blue looks great
the depends on your glam though?
orange flames just dont work for me as a pld
It's good to have something out of "job color scheme"
thats what excalibur zeta is for
relics usually get datamined during maintenance right?
I had black armour for pld and all white for dark knight
yeah
once patch can be downloaded but not played yea
figured, ill check back when i wake up in 5 hours
RDM only have one relic step that is not a shade of red XD
Counter point: Elemental hydatos tank gear and Excalibur/aegis shield is a perfect match
Ronkan tank set is underrated af. Looks good as hell in white.
and it's the best looking one re: rdm relic
I'm so behind on the relic lol I stopped playing for a few months cos Bozja bored me for some reason
I have a Dark Paladin glam and so far orange is pretty okay on it!
Being black and white fire is a nice touch. Also Talekeeper is yellow and blue.
I really need to work on Bozja. I just can't find the desire to do it
Only got to the second stage
I've got 15 artifacts waiting to be used so I can pursue the coolest looking relic tomorrow 
Yeah the glow is still pink-ish though
i look it this way
Who cares about Bozja anyways the only thing that matters is the outfit that Tataru gives us at the end of the patch
that's not from the moonfire faire?
Please be something like HW's
Oh yeah Tataru should be getting us an outfit xD
I want to enjoy my big damage numbers before the stat squish so I need my fancy resistance weapon
I like ties
Yeah she gives us an outfit at the end of every expansion
Moonfire Faire is generally swimwear/hawaiian-themed when it's an outfit
It honestly has never hit me til now lol
oh yeah i forgot about the tataru outfit lol
same. based tataru
I've got six relics ready to go pretty much
- Paladin (done sofar)
- Scholar (TW step)
- Dragoon (TW step)
- Red Mage (started)
- Astrologian (Loathsome step)
- White Mage (Bitter step)
gimme the cloak from the trailer with actual cape physics
lol there will never be cape physics
Isn't that PLD AF5
mfs no proper cape physics ever
But we dont have ultimate for use shb relic right? TEA synced at 475 i think?
the cloak he wore over that then gets nuked when he yeets first beast
Having multiple stats means the ilvl sync ends up letting you have more stats at cap.
We get Cape physics before Veera get hats.calling it now
bunners dont wear hats kekw
latest relic basically gave us 400 extra substats
new fc title
When do .x5 patches usually go live
Oh that.
Cant wait for yshtola’s ceremonial “death” for endwalker
The website says they're aiming for 3am pst. Whether they hit that or its early is unknown.
Tataru pls gimme Midlander stubble. If anyone can get it from Yoshi-P its her.
Yeah my ass is not staying up that late
nah should be uriganer and he meets moenbryda and is happy
its basically the same for all Ult, considering the materia melds doesnt count once ilv is synced
you fucking madman
255 DR runs weren't gonna do themselfs
And now what do I have to show for it? glowy weapons
So you can now instantly decipher the chess
I just need to start doing it once a day I think ☠️
Might just take some Vyvanse and get it all done over the course of 24 hrs
Eureka was boring but for some reason I didn't mind grinding away the relic in each zone
255 delubrum runs...
Bozja however
how many hairs and mounts did you get 
It's the lack of sleeping dragons
Don't forget it's also 51 CLLs
when dem patch notes at I'm jonesin
Or up to 255 CT
Don't the traps when nobody bothers bringing observation kinda act like sleeping dragons?
It's the zone literally being brown and getting like 3 bozjan coins per FATE or whatever when you need thousands
Oh man I had SHIT RNG. Alright so, the mount dropped at run 80-ish yeah? Then the Barding dropped at like run 120-ish, I got exactly ONE Hairstyle at run 203.
Thankfully Zadnor isn't as brown as BSF
Which I then proceeded to give to my homie cause they asked me early on if they could have it if it dropped
Zadnor is just
That really is shit rng
I'll grind away for that penelo gear tho
Sand (fuck i forgot theres 10s slow mode)
It really was shitty RNG
Wowza
i wonder if the zadnor music is gonna be the same, the one in trailer seems like itll be dalriada because its more techno-y
I don't like sand
In the pic that shows off the Penelo and Basch armor sets, who is the 3rd armor set supposed to represent?
Larsa
Larsa
oh, neato
WHERE IS ASHE OUTFIT
Captain High Potion himself
I did get every Queen's Guard minion so many times I could've filled an actual chess board with them
Prolly no ashe because they couldnt figure out how to male-ify ashe
we now got all the main FFXII cast outfits except ashe, (though the Vaan one is the tactics A2 design)
They are currently protecting the plushies in my house
Just make the mini skirt into hot pants
Male Ashe outfit could have been larsa
Ashe and Vaan will be Mogstation, I bet XD
no. just... keep the skirt
Is patch ready to download
Isn't like Vaan's gear already dropped from Ridorana
Aren't datamines out when you can download the patch early before servers up?
Yes
Yes
Oo you can download it already
But as is the case with maintenance people tend to ask that question hours before patch is even available
I thought this discord channel banned datamine leaks?
Servers go up at 6am est usually right? Might play through the story early
I was replying to ML
Ic
Patch notes up
Do we have any patch notes yet?
pog
👀
Link please
🍽
Players must first complete the quest "???," and have amassed at least 2,000,000 mettle.
sorry wut
wat
Probably the endless stat gain part they mentioned
2 MILLLION?? TF
isn't current cap like 710k?
mettle rewards scales up as you level so it's probably not as bad as you'rr all thinking
uh oh whats that gonna be
TT mount
why does this remind me of jam on toast
2 million is nothing, you forget the amount you get scales.
2 million mettle
CC GANG we safe!!!
2mil easy
oh nooo thats a ton of relic quests
hmm okay so its not CC... where else could it come from?
weekly DR
Well shoot now I need to get all TT cards :(
time to continue all my 5 relics
700->2 million is like 250->700 which was 13->15, it's not much at all
Says you need it every time too xd
patch, N O T E S
With consideration for player accessibility, certain battle effects in the alliance raid the Tower at Paradigm's Breach have been adjusted.
I hope that means the scary scream face is removed I have still have nightmares
Emmy Mount shop
gazebo 
Aw the scary face was removed?
Yo this is actually poggers
I haven't even done it yet I haven't logged in since finishing the 5.5 story 😭😭😭
Lost Full Cure is really poggers
65% dmg buff? Thats insane
Oh cool hidden emote
HELL YEA FLOOR TANK LOST ACTION LMAO
FLOOR TANK LOST ACTION FLOOR TANK LOST ACTION
angery minion
Ok I love the TT mount
aww the choco barding is cute!!
no talk me I angy
i love how all these lost actions would just break the game if they were able to be used in non bozja content
I'm not seeing "Only in Bozjan 1 Zone or DR Zone only" on the new lost actions so I assume these will be available for all areas to future proof the content
it's the bizarre airbike that Fran and Balthier ride in their opening cg in FFXII
wow only 3 msq quests 🤨
How do you get 4 dashes..?
Intervene harder
Does this mean we might get Nier Mount!?
emerald increased twice??
probably not
im surprised they remembered it
either emil head or nothing
we'll see in the datamine o3o
Yea increased again
Diamond once, Emerald once, with token for Emerald
Suzaku was the same in SB
2 million mettle requirement for the quest omg...
Now likely at the same level as tit/hades/ruby, they drop like candy
"increased" sureee lol
Oh shit this barding is nice
lmao the card mount
Yeah seriously what is SE thinking. There are so many cosmetics Nier can produce but they made nothing!
knew something was wrong, after they 'increased' it the first time, still went 40 runs with no drop lul
This is the only barding I ever wanted lol
9s glam or nothing 
oh I realize we're also getting another indoor pond item 😮 yess
looks like the proofs of mettle are gonna be a big grind
I just wanna know if they're perma and carry over to DR or something
time to max out on mettle and get 10 of each
Do you need every card for this?
Drop rates increased doesn't mean 'It drops very often.'
Diamond was likely increased by the same amount as Emerald last time. it's the same pattern they did with Seiryu and Suzaku
Gonna need 2 mill for that weekly quest so that'll be fun
How many weeks has it been since the last nier raid, I've got four messages, I think I might've missed a week
Cruise Chaser not from TT?
Literally says 'Adventurer with All the Cards' so yes
6
Oof
https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/fdea72f70dafb7da0f7145ebc3f8c7d56dacb702_19.png?1621917267
how does this not trivialize everything in bozja
That's the point
The amount of mettle rewarded upon completing Delubrum Reginae has been increased.
damn it, that's all?
Oh my god that Lost Full Cure is SEXY
nerf the content while its current so people can actually get carried through
So no relic step nerfs...
it's already 50k per clear
its an aoe benediction + lucid dreaming ffs. its just easy mode for everything
Relic nerf is way too soon
and I was wondering what they were going to do about the drops from DR
feelzbad we love running old content over and over
we can now have spiral staircases to nowhere
Probably 6.1 they will nerf relic steps
yay
Yeah make it so the mettle goes from insane to even more insane
It wasn't cruise chaser 
also gazebo
Says you need it every time too xd
geschundheid
is there any nurf to the relics past stage ?
Considering we need 2 mill mettle
We need it
Inb4 DR is faster for increasing mettle lol
No it's already easy.
it’s monotonous and boring because they can’t make things more exciting in bozja
It's... only 2 million. Rank 15 is just over 700k. Mettle already scales massively. It's.. not a big deal.
ya 2Mil is nothing
Dr is 100% gonna be quick now
Lost Blood Rage is a warrior's wet dream
I have done almost 100 runs of CLL.... well over 3mil 4mil mettle at this point
I see a magic carpet mount reskin
Where are you guys seeing these things? Data mining or something?
Do they usually detail nerfs/buffs in the patch notes for the relic step?
Lodestone?
Lost blood rage sounds op on pld
Yes.
Patch notes are up
Also, having broken lost actions IS a nerf to the relic steps
Patch Notes are just up.
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/fdea72f70dafb7da0f7145ebc3f8c7d56dacb702 in case people missed it
Your runs have people that use them? xD
Thank you!
is that aesthete choco barding owo
Guess I'll be spamming DR first before Zadnor to catch up on the relic
Minus 75 percent cast time and mp regen
except most of the methods are faster outside of bozja...
Will probably want to be at the current step while doing it
im farming this
Cries in 18 Mhach and 18 ivalice raid
18*
18* 
You're talking to someone who has tested it. It's not.
CLL step maybe
Fates are faster.
THREE QUESTS LETS GOO
wait
fates are still outside bozja tho lol
so where does CC mount came from then
Also finally they made those changes with desynth for primal weapons
are datamines gonna be in here
🤔
The party list will now be sorted automatically when the number of party members changes during an instanced duty.
20x3 is way faster by fates unless you get stupid lucky in BSF, bitter mems are a joke so who cares, loathsome is probably faster in BSF unless you get a blu alliance, and timeworn is way faster in POTD in general if you have a good group
three quests and a 90 minute cutscene
That step already got nerfed, not a big deal
yeah miqo i caught that too
hype qol change
most of the steps are optimal outside bozja which is kind of backwards considering it’s literally the relic zone...
^
20x3 is faster if you have three players staged in three locations hard AoE farming. Even solo it's faster. This is also faster for bitters. Stop taking day 1 'claims' on the relics by people who only tried one thing as gospel.
There is no way grinding pots is faster.than a relic farm party for dr
new text command added: "???"
We got a surprise emote coming folks
are we gonna do datamine in here or another thread
erm...square r u ok?
They took the eureka feedback too serious
Fuck yeeeee
A lot of the people only do the actual bozja content to level alts
poggu
cruise chaser will be reward from nier weeklies
yo that's a cool gazebo
New text command: "Get dicked by Zenos"

what's the Triple Triad achievement?
new emote is CatJam
i hope its /twinning
god this is just going to give more ammo to sensitive boys in limsa in Faerie
Naw. people just want to believe not being in Bozja is faster without actually testing the methods that have been tested. People who have literally tested it know otherwise.
I mean ye, but what's the achievement tho
me but jenova
collect all the cards
er...well my comment isn't about the hairstyle itself
kawaian didnt you just say that fates are faster
do you mean like a title?
its about the fact its "winning hairstyle" and the hairstyle is neither grand prize nor a runner up style
Magic carpet mount disguised as card.
no what you gotta do to get the achievement
Fates are faster for the Mhach/Ivalice step, yes.
jesus collecting all the cards is fucked
Not for the 3X20 step
i’m just waiting for more male hairstyles since all we’ve gotten lately are female ones lol
for the step that you cant do bozja
Have all the cards currently in the game almost definitely
wait what
that oughta take a while lmao
Fates, level 60 spam are faster for the first steps as well though
datamined stuff is to stay in this channel
The tournament ones are the worst
Oh that Triple triad mount is terrible and I love it
As usual, no music or requests for music are allowed
Patch up?
Or the Cloud one you gotta get 1 mill MGP for
can't wait for the mahjong tile mount
At least you can get the tournament cards from platinum packs
like i'm pretty sure it was a submission
not yet
thank you Lima for the update
but platinum packs you can't get outside of tournaments afaik
ngl when i saw tt mount i thought it was a strawberry jam spread slice of toast lol
yo that bread cart is pretty cool
and you'll just have people win trading their ass off
The Phoenix card in particular is a huge pain in the ass to get
No different than what people do with feast
Rare chance in the open tournament, plus the regular tournaments yeah. But it's point based in the regular tournament so the cheaters shouldn't affect it much
Unlike other instruments, the electric guitar can change tones mid-performance.
fuck yes
limit break 
can someone submit face stuble to a hair contest plllease
stay up late one night and it's basically free, open tournaments are dead in off hours and the NPCs are usually not a big deal
^
Is wringhands a new base emote or do we have to unlock it?
ill be getting a ton of mileage out of that guitar
unknown, probably unlock
thats how i got mine; on a friday night i just stayed up later
almost definitely unlock actually.
did several opens with only me in it
wringhands is probably bozja lockbox
calling it now other emote will be /twinning
Sadgenor
Are open tournaments not the same as the Durai tournament (as an example)
Have they added sokens la hee music scroll yet?
Oh I was super scared. I thought I had miss a Yorha weekly.
You dod
i missed all of them 
plat packs from draft tournies are very rare. I got like 3 or 4 in the process of getting 50 1st place win chievo
How many TT cards are in the game now? Feel like this mount might be rough lol
around 300-ish
322
322
at least 7
Oh lordy
No they're every two hours
That's not too bad then
Can someone gift me the DR hairstyle. It was my birthday last month and I really want it
this bike is so dumb I love it
tfw the virtual guitar is better than the actual guitar
Can not wait to craft the new housing items for stupid prices
can we agree to call it the Simpmobile?
i want cc 
Wonder how we get the bike
No resistancr wep nerfs 
Guess ill just stick to upgrading my monk one to zadnor
Is it from clusters or drop
probably Zadnor
99% dalriada drop
probably through lockboxes
getting the phoenix card from an open tournament is ez just do it late at night and all you play is the npcs
same lmao
Get ready to sell it for 20m gil
That bike is so terrible.
it's the bike from ff12
if you like FFXII
I want to be the one sitting not the driving it
you would want it
ffxii is terrible so its fine
it was a simpmobile then it's a simpmobile now
🙄
The bike was under Zenos's cape the entire time!
im sorry ive never touched any other ff games it was bait
It's also a 2-seater you can earn
That puts it in a unique place
Probably even MBable
Just get married 5head
We get 4 seater in September so yah
I just want CC mount SE just let me know what suffering I gotta do 
I also never played any other FF game. I am working on Octopath Traveler though, I'm told it's the same thing.
bro just clear e4s 
you can earn both a 2 seater and a 4 seater rn tho
We all know Balthier got that bike just to stare at Fran's ass
complete "the gift of the archmagus" 1000 times
Neither can be MB-able.
I did mentor mount already I can bear this pain
Ashe just fucking A-posing
if Balthier shows up in the new Bozja content with Fran I'll die
true, do we know the bike is?
Any datamines going on guys? The datamining server I'm in is quiet so far.
to get CC you have to have at least 1-dan ranking in mahjong lol
Ride wife, life good
Bike is likely a drop tbh
Better than pickin her damn nose
what's CC?
patch isn't out yet just the notes
It's quiet here too
Rare 3-seater mount confirmed!!!
Ah ok
I want to play more mahjong man
the patch isn't available for download yet so datamining is not possible
cruise chaser
Contingency Contract Cruise Chaser
IM SORRY IT WAS BAIT ID PROBABLY LIKE FFXII IF I PLAYED IT
what's cruise chaser?
go play it
I just want a mount that’s the Lost Sprint action
data mine yo face
One of the bosses in Alexander
Where cruise chaser?
o lmao
you would King
Those are what we call single dudes that go on cruises to get laid with middle-aged depressed housewives
Id kill for a xii remaster tbh
But but but Zodiac Age
so 90% of the community?
shush dont give my plan away 
wym we have one
the zodiac age?
A newer one 
I will send you a name, when you have completed the deed, I will tell you about Zodiac Age
I thought the weekly limits for e9s-e12s would be removed this patch sadge
5.57 I think
Prolly 5.57
nothing but pain
Same, but Endwalker is releasing later than expected
