retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[teal geyser]

I don't recall a name?

[subtle pasture]

Coulda swore it was, the Studium, the Forum, and the.... that.

[exotic copper]

The bookum

[midnight nymph]

omfg

[torpid yoke]

Literally all i said is i'd rather have one for Ronka first before even giving one to sharlayan

[wind bough]

We don’t know a library name for Sharlayan

[subtle pasture]

and while 'm spamming screens,

[gaunt star]

I know, just telling you why we wouldn’t ^.^

[subtle pasture]

Probably the Studium, wonder who the lady in all the statues is

[exotic copper]

its me 🙂

[inner kite]

The only sharlayan library we know the name of is great gubal but that one is part of colony

[subtle pasture]

and this looks like the Leveilleur Estate from that other in-game screen they gave

[clever flume]

sounds like you're confusing the group Bibliothecs, glass

[subtle pasture]

No no, I coulda swore it was named p similarly to 'em

[obsidian pagoda]

That's some rich arse mansion

[subtle pasture]

ah well,

[teal geyser]

Mommy

[gaunt star]

Woman is likely a rendition of their patron god?

[inner kite]

My bet is it's all thaliak

[wind bough]

Could be more Thaliaks

[midnight nymph]

it could be nymeia, or even llymlaen… are there other deities closely related to thaliak?

[exotic copper]

thaliak is depicted as male?

[teal geyser]

That's Thaliak who is a dude and is the guy pouring the water

[wind bough]

Male btw

The gender of those statues is ambiguous in that shot

[gaunt star]

Legit thought it was a woman o.o

[midnight nymph]

in eorzea yis, he is portrayed as male

[wind bough]

He is male

[teal geyser]

It looks like a proper dress compared to what Thaliak wears

[wind bough]

He is depicted as male everywhere

[subtle pasture]

some of the best frame I could get of the statues, which at least shows they're identical

[wind bough]

Including Sharlayan

[gaunt star]

I see person pouring water, brain say “Aquarius” I think woman XD

[teal geyser]

Yeah that's a full blown outfit and I don't think they'd change Thaliak's outfit so it's someone else

[midnight nymph]

ohhh i see

[subtle pasture]

and while I'm obssessed over statues in the blurry background, there's a few of these in the Forum chamber

[midnight nymph]

lol the shining beacon of brain in the card

[distant sonnet]

I'm goin with something dumb for the library until told otherwise.
Loretorium.

[subtle pasture]

yeah they don't look to be of the same person, but the shots and frames go by too quick or too out of focus to be certain

[gaunt star]

Oh is 100% dude Aquarius nod

[torpid yoke]

She's the one dancing on the wind

[exotic copper]

so his daughter

[teal geyser]

I want Urianger to dance on the wind

....does Thaliak even have a daughter? I don't think so

[gaunt star]

OH YOU MEAN THE DANCER STATUES!!

[midnight nymph]

i thought llymlaen was his daughter, but i might be misremembering

[gaunt star]

Hi, I’m Usagi, I just did a big brain fart

[subtle pasture]

Ah, I found what I was thinking of, it's not a library but some sort of grand tome, the Bibliotheca Historica

[exotic copper]

Llymlaen, the Navigator, watcher of the seas and goddess of navigation, commands the element of wind and is tied to the Third Astral Moon (fifth month). She is depicted as a strong fisherwoman holding a long-bladed harpoon, and her symbol is the wave. Llymlaen is the daughter of Thaliak and the elder sister of Nophica.

[midnight nymph]

oh he has two daughters!

[exotic copper]

he has one daughter

[subtle pasture]

From the Beliefs section of Sharlayan in EE1,

[gaunt star]

Okay, is Menphina a thingy of anywhere?

[exotic copper]

azeyma is not confirmed to be llymlaens mother, and nophica is not confirmed to be thaliaks daughter

[midnight nymph]

ohhh i see

[wind bough]

I guess that name does suggest a library

[wind bough]

I thought of it as like. An archive of yearbooks

[teal geyser]

I think this one is a bit clearer

[exotic copper]

I would imagine the bibliotheca histora to be a very large book. or series of books.

[placid sail]

so Rhalgr is like the cool uncle of the pantheon?

[torpid yoke]

Ty for this one, it hurts my eyes less

[distant sonnet]

Bibliotheca literally means library though. Heh

[exotic copper]

but its less correct

[teal geyser]

It has less detail but I wouldn't call it less correct

[exotic copper]

it states that azeyma is llymlaens mother and thaliak is nophicas father, that is not confirmed.

[subtle pasture]

That is from the myth of their creation,

[exotic copper]

azeyma for instance is "daughter of althyk" and they don't connect nymeia to her

[torpid yoke]

Holy shit lyon got murdered XD

[teal geyser]

Bottom third line

[subtle pasture]

"Azeyma, drawn to Thaliak's sagacity, professed Her love to the new deity and begot Him two daughters-the first being Llymlaen,
who took--"
oh thank god

[soft maple]

Goddamn it I must find myself volume 2 of that damned encyclopedia

[midnight nymph]

ohhh

[teal geyser]

This is EE1

[midnight nymph]

i think NA recently replenished stocks for the EEs?

[teal geyser]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[soft maple]

Isn't sharlayan info on EE2?

[teal geyser]

EE1

[wind bough]

Let’s not talk about it

[exotic copper]

well, I stand corrected I guess, that'll teach me for not reading encyclopedias lmao

[midnight nymph]

nope EE1

[soft maple]

Oh wow

[torpid yoke]

the two of them being siblings kinda implies that probably the same parents

[soft maple]

Time to read up then

[clever flume]

hydaelyn cultist strikes again

[exotic copper]

you clearly have never looked at most mythologies

[teal geyser]

@torpid yoke Half siblings are a bitch potential

[subtle pasture]

First came Time, then Fate, and their love bore the Sun and Moon. Knowledge came from the Whorl, and with the Sun he made the, um,

[gaunt star]

Definitely stealing boyfriends EE’s

[subtle pasture]

Idk how to put Llymlaen in a symbolic word, Guidance?

[wind bough]

Keepers of the Moon worship Menphina, but no city has her as their matron deity

[teal geyser]

Suuure

[exotic copper]

goddess of navigation -> guidance is fair

[subtle pasture]

If the chart gives them no parentage, they came from the Whorl wholesale

[inner kite]

Sea

[subtle pasture]

except Oschon who just popped up one day and Nald'thal who Byregot made out of lava

[teal geyser]

Oschon is weird

[exotic copper]

the chart still did forget nymeia was the mother of azeyma and menphina

[teal geyser]

You think Oschon came from...the ocean?

[inner kite]

The wanderer and everyone calls us that

[exotic copper]

good old incest

[subtle pasture]

As the god of wanderlust it's so fitting that he just, popped up, but it does make him such an oddity among the pantheon

[gaunt star]

Because I’m just going full monkey brain and thinking with all the symbology on the Aetherites being similar, but, I have proven on my being awake for 39 hours and being old monkey brain is poopoo

[subtle pasture]

His sudden arrival is also symbolic of just, the wind, and such

[gaunt star]

I know they’re meant to be nautilus shells tho too

[subtle pasture]

coming and going and

[exotic copper]

were you doing potd last night

[gaunt star]

Nuh

[exotic copper]

ok, ran into an usagi who wanted me to pay her 5m to interior decorate my house lmao

[torpid yoke]

just 5m?

[gaunt star]

XD I’m Ini Usagi, and I actually do that for friends for fun/free XD

[exotic copper]

I can't believe anyone pays anyone to do that

like it seems to defeat the point of having your own style

[gaunt star]

Do you know how hard that shit is?

[subtle pasture]

I hope Myths of the Realm specifically mentions Oschon's strange origins, even for Lewphon's summarization

[exotic copper]

is there some secret minigame I'm unaware of

like you have to beat snake every time you place a bed or something

[clever flume]

doing house decorating is hard man. can't style for shit. also am bad at house glitches

[gaunt star]

To make it look good yes XD

[wind bough]

You joke...

Some of the housing glitches for placing things certain ways are quite finicky and time-consuming

[exotic copper]

seems like part of the fun to me

[wind bough]

It’s not

It’s very frustrating

[carmine basin]

Here's a video of me floating a bookshelf to fill a space on the ceiling https://youtu.be/8QzlgtXn0wE

[gaunt star]

An hour to float a single platform the old way 😭😭

[exotic copper]

I mean it seems annoying but I'd rather do it myself

[carmine basin]

To give you an idea on what's needed to be done if you want your house design to be more involved

[exotic copper]

definitely not the most annoying thing i've done on 14

[torpid yoke]

they had good music taste. Full fathom five

[carmine basin]

It's me

[exotic copper]

i mean, i finished arr, this is chump change

[gaunt star]

We all have (I assume)

[teal geyser]

Dragon

[exotic copper]

thats what I mean, like if you can finish arr, you can decorate a house

[gaunt star]

Sure thing buddy XD

[exotic copper]

finishing arr was grueling.

[teal geyser]

I could finish ARR faster than doing a house

[exotic copper]

then you have more willpower than i

[carmine basin]

I mean I'd like to say you say the same after you decorated a house, otherwise your words don't mean much since you're just assuming the effort required 🤷

[exotic copper]

I get nothing out of finishing ARR other than "i finally get to play the game"

i get a nice house to sit in out of house

[carmine basin]

Here's a video of a well known decorator who's designing a more complex house https://youtu.be/MFhK0lqEEcI

[exotic copper]

If we're doing merit based opinions than no one here gets to speculate about game design since I'm pretty sure none of you have ever made a game, much less a AAA mmo, I don't think merit based opinions are a worthwhile prospect

[gaunt star]

No one is doing that ^.^

So your point is moot dearie

[exotic copper]

I'd like to say you say the same after you decorated a house

[gaunt star]

You dont need to have made a game to know the fundamentals of it

Thats like saying critics cant critique food or movies cuz they arent chefs or movie directors

I mean the game design part silly thing

[exotic copper]

I was extending the argument into the relevant channel we're in

[teal geyser]

The time it'd take me to learn and do that I stand by my point

[torpid yoke]

Never made a complex game but do know how coding is and shit like that

[gaunt star]

“I was moving the goalposts” okay champ

[carmine basin]

If you say you would rather design a game yourself rather than pay someone else to do it, I would also say the same thing lol

[exotic copper]

i thought you were both nicer and more intelligent than that

[torpid yoke]

Rude

[gaunt star]

Ive never thought of ff14 as a triple a game

Strange to think about

[teal geyser]

Small indie company

[torpid yoke]

please understand

[carmine basin]

I mean, just understand that decorating a house in XIV is a lot of work and some prefer to save their time by not doing it and pay someone else to do it, and some offer that service to get gil

[gaunt star]

Smol indie company plz understand

[torpid yoke]

kinda like real life

[exotic copper]

I know it's a lot of work, I just don't understand it on a personal level. Of course people buy golden toilets.

that doesn't mean I understand why they buy gold toilets, just that they do

like i "get it" but i don't get it.

[carmine basin]

I don't think golden toilets are comparable. Hiring someone to fix your toilet is a fairer comparison, since you're hiring someone with expertise on fixing toilets rather than learning how to fix toilets yourself

[wind bough]

People buy art

[exotic copper]

Toilet necessity. Weird house in game, not necessity

[wind bough]

Rather than just making their own

You ever buy a nice thing to look at

[exotic copper]

Also true, I don't understand why people buy expensive art.

[gaunt star]

Real money - in game money

[wind bough]

Cause it looks nice

[exotic copper]

Yeah, I've never seen something that made me go "I want to spend 10,000 on looking at this"

[carmine basin]

Actually, wouldn't video game count as art?

[exotic copper]

For sure

interactive art is a thing

[wind bough]

5mil isn’t comparable to 10 000 in real life. 5 mil is more like idk 150 bucks

[somber storm]

Buy art for tax evasion

[exotic copper]

I also have never bought a $150 game

or piece of art

[gaunt star]

I mean, I’ve payed for art, and received art as a gift
Are they of my bun babe? Yes XD but even tho it wasn’t 10grand, it’s more precious than that to me personally

I’ve spent way more than $150 on this game 😂😂

[exotic copper]

I'm happy for you, but thats not how my brain works. I would be happy to receive it as a gift, but I'd not pay much money to have art of my character

[subtle pasture]

I’ve definitely debated some $130+ commissions

[gaunt star]

Oh I’d sell a kidney to get a commission from cutesexyrobutts

[exotic copper]

I'm fairly sure their commission price is lower than a kidney, without even knowing who that is

[subtle pasture]

Saw someone who made HQ custom plushies make a Hrothgar and I wanted one of mine so bad... they don’t do regular commissions of course so the starting price was somewhere around $350, iirc

[exotic copper]

oh thats a lot of p*rn

[teal geyser]

Owo

[subtle pasture]

I really ought to get art of my Hrothgar one day, someday. -Anyway

[gaunt star]

https://tenor.com/view/soken-fan-fest-lahee-otamatone-hum-gif-21581907

Hey! They do SFW too 😂😂

[forest magnet]

I see the horny has spilled over to this channel as well

[placid sail]

$350 for a custom handmade Hrothgar doesn't sound too bad

like, it's a lot of money, but for that kind of craftwork

[carmine basin]

If you don't have an artist in mind, I know someone that does furry art often and well (not meaning this in a condescending way)

[kind lark]

That would imply it was never here at one point

[forest magnet]

[gaunt star]

And I mean... I have a certain role =3= it’s expected of people with that role XD

[carmine basin]

Oh you're an oldie

[gaunt star]

I like my badge :3

[exotic copper]

sometimes i think i don't belong here lmao, so many owos and uwus and anime pfps

[wind bough]

uwu

[gaunt star]

I never “owo” or “uwu” XD and I also do not have an anime pfp

[somber storm]

But you just did though

[gaunt star]

GOD DAMN YOU’RE RIGHT!

[wind bough]

Destroyed

[gaunt star]

And I didn’t choose the name of that role 😂

[exotic copper]

but you definitely earned it lol

[gaunt star]

For what reason?

[wind bough]

Being horny

[exotic copper]

yas

[viscid monolith]

I lost my badge

[exotic copper]

were you not horny enough

[gaunt star]

Leave the server at one point?

[wind bough]

I’m pure uwu

[gaunt star]

Hi pure, I’m Usagi

[viscid monolith]

No i got kicked from the server because they thought I got hacked

[gaunt star]

Ahhhh

And the badge of shame was for people who had NSFW channel access, but those channels have gone

[carmine basin]

Lance butt typed and we thought he got hacked

[exotic copper]

so we were right, it is for being horny

[gaunt star]

Wait, you can still butt dial?
And not really, I just have a terrible habit of making highly inappropriate jokes

Plus, I’m an old woman

[exotic copper]

you're telling me you don't commission nsfw art?

also if I've learned anything its that old women are the horniest

[gaunt star]

I can 100% guarantee that

[carmine basin]

I butt dialed one of the mods here, it was embarrassing since I never talked to them

[exotic copper]

i butt dialed my ex about a week after we broke up

that was truly embarassing

[gaunt star]

That’s glorious Aya XD

Dunno why it would be, I’m friends with my ex’s

[wind bough]

I butt dialed Fliegar once

[exotic copper]

We're friends now, but when emotions are raw its pretty awkward

[gaunt star]

Depends on the reasons for breaking up I guess

[wind bough]

What if you broke up because of too much butt dialing

[gaunt star]

That’s their loss!

Clearly your butt was thinking of them!

[soft maple]

The ass got too much into the relationship

And now it wants back in...

[exotic copper]

idk how you've never had a relationship end and go "okay yeah we need time apart for a little while"

[gaunt star]

I mean, like 15 years ago yeah, but then you grow up and realise that it’s better to make sure you want to be with someone before putting time into a relationship

[exotic copper]

okay well 15 years ago I was 12

[torpid yoke]

oldy

[gaunt star]

And I was 15 😂

[exotic copper]

but yeah, it happened when I was like, idk, 19

also just because you want to be with someone doesn't mean you don't need a break after you break up lmao

especially if the breakup wasn't mutual

[gaunt star]

I live with one of my ex’s 😂

[distant sonnet]

I just don't give my butt a phone.

[gaunt star]

Butt where’s the fun in that?

[carmine basin]

Imagine if Zenos had a phone

!faq juicy

[lusty shadow]

Juicy

[gaunt star]

Discord admin meme vibes are high

Reckon he would call us kitten?
That would make me fight him 😂

That is cursed af

The Juicy mod?

[exotic copper]

i hope zenos butt dials me on his tomestone

[gaunt star]

Zenos would "buttdial" you and all youd hear is him breathing on the other side as he's just smilong at his phone

[exotic copper]

that's not breathing

[gaunt star]

☹️

[soft maple]

It's like the sonic movie

"I KNOW YOU'RE REAL!!!!!!!"

"NOOOO, I'M NOOOOOOT"

[forest magnet]

we still don't know what that giant light derplander is walking towards.

[teal geyser]

Away from

[inner kite]

Erm

[chilly bluff]

Yeah I interpreted that light as the sun from a weird angle.

[gloomy shale]

we landed on the moon!

[soft gyro]

moon's haunted

space aliens in white suits are roaming the moon

[distant sonnet]

Planet blows up at the end of the trailer, too.

I might not take too much of what happens in it as exactly whats happening. Heh

[wary perch]

Will the moon has day and night?

[drowsy belfry]

Yeah I'm gonna be completely honest, the Sun imagery plus the Cloak is probably just meant to go "Ayyyy lmao What's poppin Azem"

I mean it's going to have to have a Day and Night cycle for nodes and stuff

[wary perch]

Will hydaelyn be visible on both day and night?

In the final trailer, wol seems shock looking at something before the beast ambush him

[kind lark]

Zenos wins and 6.1 is about fighting Zenarld nation

[distant sonnet]

"Beware of false leads in trailers" -Master Matoya

"Yeah what she said." - Yugiri's hawk.

[wary perch]

"Beware of the lies on the internet" - urianger

[inner kite]

"Beware of crackpot theories" -me

[distant sonnet]

"You gonna do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?" - Red Hraesvlgr Swarm

[carmine basin]

The moon rotates right

[gaunt star]

1 week till Venat shows up

[carmine basin]

And circles around the earth

[gaunt star]

Another waifu added to the list @gaunt star

Indeed

[patent hinge]

We carry our harpoons.

[warm bone]

look at this guy. hes so unbelievably smug

[kind lark]

Who is that?

[carmine basin]

Sephiroth

[oak pike]

Cloud

[kind lark]

omfg they added Sephiroth

[regal lantern]

Btw contrary to ShB Derplander is really attacking and blowing stuff up with “Light” this time.

Back to the roots I guess?

[oak pike]

I hate the way the teeth looks

Look how bent

[inner kite]

Does it have some sort of skirt ?

[regal lantern]

That’s very likely the monster Derplander kills @inner kite
Its eyes likely, maybe, the light there doesn’t look like it’s the Sun.

[inner kite]

No it's the headlights of spaceship. Allagans returned home

[teal geyser]

Choo choo motherfucker
crashes straight into WoL

[gaunt star]

Is that an edited version of rommys

Or maybe that came first
Either way both are valid

Greasy forehead pin is fcking nasty though

[kind lark]

Wojaks are cursed in general.

[soft gyro]

i can never make clear image of that monster, wtf is that light from the mob, an eye?

[chilly bluff]

Yeah a glowing eye

[soft gyro]

the only think that doesn't look bad, is the dragon
and the monsters, look weird

[drowsy belfry]

https://twitter.com/ThatDamienHedge/status/1393659066111696900

DamienThatHedge (@ThatDamienHedge)

Character Arc.

Twitter · May 15, 2021, 8:06 PM

Character Arc ™️

[torpid yoke]

i mean WoL is a PLD here which use more light based attacks than drk

[regal lantern]

Looks like a lunar whale kinda monster?

[soft gyro]

idk, lunar whale you can atleast see it

[regal lantern]

Character arc

[drowsy belfry]

War and Depression is one hell of an age mechanic

[kind lark]

It looks like the first beast

[soft gyro]

square enix, torturing our fine wol to being depressed

[clever flume]

its the first boss from amarout

[regal lantern]

I hoped WoL to have a mullet or just long shoulder length hair this expansion originally

[wet crown]

Is that really what you think a whale looks like?

[kind lark]

The danger noodle that summons meteors

[soft gyro]

yeah like in the trailer we saw that boss's ass

[wet crown]

the ass has a mouth

[gaunt star]

It's the first beast, the multiple mouths should've given that away

[inner kite]

Dentists hate him. Get white teeth in 5 simple steps

[regal lantern]

Have you seen Sin from FFX? It doesn’t exactly look like a whale either. Either ways I said “kinda”, as in something of similar design/origin.

[kind lark]

Eating wols must be not healthy for his teeth

[inner kite]

Toothpick of light

[regal lantern]

Now if Venat becomes a Trust in 6.1... lmfao

[gloomy shale]

Will one of the trusts be a Reaper?

[distant sonnet]

Its like a whale in that it looks nothing like a whale in any way.

[gloomy shale]

Cuz I guess what's their face is a Sage as a trust I'm assuming

[drowsy belfry]

Alphinaud, and unless another Trust member switches jobs probably not

[regal lantern]

Not as far as we know, no.

[gloomy shale]

could be a new character joins the trust fray

[distant sonnet]

I doubt it. They won't water it dowm that hard with Zenos taking the job up too.

Only surprise trust I expect is Fordola as a tank.

[gloomy shale]

Also everyone will be playing Reaper through the story

[drowsy belfry]

I mean probably not

[distant sonnet]

Nahh miss me on melee. I'll still be red

[drowsy belfry]

Most people'll wanna get through the story, so having to spend like 6+ hours leveling Reaper to 80 in Bozja isn't ideal

Sure some people'll do it, but not the majority

[gloomy shale]

ah forgot about the leveling to 80 thing

[distant sonnet]

Admittedly I did it with Rdm back in the day.

Something to do during Raubahn Extreme.

[gloomy shale]

Yeah I didn't do the new jobs last expansion until I finished story with another job

[torpid yoke]

i cant decide atm if i wanna level reaper to 80 and do story with it or play pld through EW story as "canon" job

[pulsar current]

im doing PLD

[wet crown]

it's just the poster job and a cute reference to Azem basically being the OG Paladin

[open verge]

I’m playing monk no matter what

[wet crown]

you can play whatever

[open verge]

I’d wait til media tour to see if you’ll like which jobs

[pulsar current]

still gonna play MCH

best class

[open verge]

Eh mch is cool

Always felt it was too basic tho

[pulsar current]

thats good for me bc im bad at the game

[woven escarp]

the only RP I do is wearing appropriate armor for what I'm doing

[wet crown]

appeal to MCH is the thematic, sfx and the perfectly laid out rotation

[woven escarp]

all WOL jobs are canon jobs, that was the point of the shadowbringers trailer

[open verge]

WoL canonically doesn’t play healer

[torpid yoke]

On one hand: Reaper. On the other hand: possibly faster queues

[lucid crater]

he doesn't heal, he protects

[woven escarp]

wrong, DF healers are the story canon WOL

doesn't heal, watches critical NPCs die when they could have used a cooldown instead

[torpid yoke]

Pld and War are healers idk what you're talking about

[open verge]

[wet crown]

WAR is the perfect example of wounding others does heal yourself

[open verge]

Do we have any idea what mechanics sage will have?

[wet crown]

pew pew and zap zap

[open verge]

Reaper trailer gives of a super basic idea of a builder spender class but sage idk

[torpid yoke]

why would we. We're 6 months out from the expansion

[open verge]

I’m starving for job info man

[drowsy belfry]

Still awhile off

[wet crown]

it's a lot worse this time because the time gap is bigger

[drowsy belfry]

Only by a month or so anyway

[torpid yoke]

im starving for that bozja damage buff and probably venat next week

and also the scion Shepard (Patent pending) next week

[tropic frigate]

reaper already lookin cooler than sadge

[open verge]

I don’t expect much from sage tho

[wet crown]

wonder if just Derplander's platinum robe will be the new outfit

[tropic frigate]

i didnt either but im excited for sages mechanic

[open verge]

Sage will probably be underwhelming in what I want which is a just a dps healer

[tropic frigate]

since its been forever since we last got one

[torpid yoke]

platnium robe?

[open verge]

All healers will probably still be spamming 1 button lol

[tropic frigate]

im imagining that sage may have a mode where you can switch between fast gdcs and slow just cuz

[wet crown]

he wears a robe before the moon beast rudely interrupts his moon voyage

[tropic frigate]

like a permanent on and off stance for it

[torpid yoke]

that'd be a horrible tataru clothes since its just the pld af gear under a plain robe

[wet crown]

that's just Wanderer's from HW

[open verge]

If this was literally any other expansion the job action trailer would have come out now or in the next few weeks so the wait is painful

[wet crown]

Ehmm. No.

[open verge]

[wet crown]

We always had to wait a shit ass time for the job actions

[torpid yoke]

If covid never happened yes

[drowsy belfry]

Also hot take: I've started hearing "Heart of Amber, Modern Times" in the lyrics

[torpid yoke]

we would have known reaper for months now

[tropic frigate]

sad times for these delays

[torpid yoke]

Modern times hedge

[wet crown]

first they'll hold a media tour and invite some players, then we'll get leaks because some of these fucks can't keep their mouths shut, then we'll get the job actions trailer

[open verge]

Wonder how they’ll handle media tour

[torpid yoke]

they meant if we never had a pandemic ehva

[drowsy belfry]

Might not even happen or be JP only

[open verge]

Jp only?

[torpid yoke]

they said they would try to hold one

[drowsy belfry]

JP Onry

[torpid yoke]

at fanfest

[wet crown]

remember the ShB leaks and how everyone discredited them because of Assassinate being a class skill? Or Flood/Edge costing 3000 mana?

[open verge]

Verraise will be a 300 second cooldown

[wet crown]

Won't mind

[open verge]

I have no idea where that popped up from but people were spouting that nonsense

[drowsy belfry]

I still love how it isn't even EU that leaks, it's US

[woven escarp]

putting verraise on a cooldown like angel whisper would be a huge nerf

[open verge]

Meanwhile summoner

[woven escarp]

for that matter it shouldn't consume a dualcast if you can only use it every 5 minutes

[torpid yoke]

wasn't it EU last time?

[drowsy belfry]

Nope

[open verge]

It’s always some unknown company that leaks it

[torpid yoke]

thought it was a french publication

proably something else im thinking of

[drowsy belfry]

Both EU and JP were no leaks at all. Then literally the NIGHT of the First US tour day, boom on 4chan

[wet crown]

always get the feeling Larry leaks them, don't know why

[open verge]

?

What a random thing to say lol

[wet crown]

the wording from his reaction video and the 4chan post overlap

[open verge]

Your looking to deep into things detective

[wet crown]

[drowsy belfry]

Also still vividly remember a fake RDM leak and giving RDM Glare

[torpid yoke]

well the US tends to not know when to shut up so it isnt surprising

[drowsy belfry]

Nah EU and JP are just pussies

Virgin EU vs Chad US leaks

[regal lantern]

Everyone playing Reaper gets a bonus attire xD
We reaper mains are gonna roll that way lmao

[open verge]

Media tour and looking at the monk channel in the balance explode is always hilarious

[torpid yoke]

anyways cant wait to see reaper in its complete form since at the time of reveal they are still working out how it will play

[woven escarp]

mnk gets shafted every god damned time lmao

[torpid yoke]

Monk will be the MCH of EW i feel

[open verge]

It’s gonna happen again

[torpid yoke]

ah SB mch to shb mch

[woven escarp]

no, they know how it's going to play, they aren't sure if they want it to be a selfish DPS like mch/blm or have some support utility like drg or brd

[open verge]

They trimmed down monk so much that’s it’s impossible they fuck it up which is why I’m so scared

[tough fern]

https://tenor.com/view/investigate-spy-search-time-to-investigate-spying-gif-16487547

[torpid yoke]

I sometimes miss sb mch. Then i remember how it played and then go "oh yea fck sb mch"

[regal lantern]

I’ll main both PLD and RPR for EW, mostly cause they both look good, and by the way I’ve seen RPR plays, I love it

[woven escarp]

heavensward mch was the best

[open verge]

I miss ammo so much

[woven escarp]

bring back concentration mechanic 😤

[open verge]

I hate 100% heated shots the build up to getting them in sb was sick

[woven escarp]

the five ammo opener 😌

[torpid yoke]

They said they know wherther they want it to be a selfish dps or a support type they just dont wanna reveal it yet

[woven escarp]

stacking ammo cooldowns to get around having to cast your attacks 😌

[open verge]

Never played hw mch looked lame

[torpid yoke]

I played HW bard. I miss bow mage very much

[woven escarp]

it worked for mch in a way that it didn't for brd, which is funny because brd has been hot garbage due to the way it's always a secondary consideration for the other ranged physical dps

[open verge]

Don’t fuck up monk square I have no idea what else they could add to the job

[woven escarp]

like "we designed this cool new mechanic for $job, what about brd?" "oh shit, you're right, brd needs something too, let's give them a shittier version of $new.thing"

[torpid yoke]

they should bring it back so people will stop complaining about mobility tax :)

[open verge]

Like what expansion skills should monk even get

[woven escarp]

the thing is that if they made mch work like it did in heavensward gun mage would be competing with blm since all it does is contribute dps

[torpid yoke]

def was not the case for SB bard

[woven escarp]

stormblood brd was poop though

[tropic frigate]

im worried about classes getting even easier in endwalker

[open verge]

Jobs are already easy so It’s whatever

[torpid yoke]

SB bard was great idk what you're talking about

[woven escarp]

all the jobs are easy, honestly

just a matter of practice

[torpid yoke]

if you say sb bard was poop you never played sb bard

[open verge]

Jobs weren’t ever hard just jank

[tropic frigate]

you tellin me astrologian didnt get easier?

from what it was?

[woven escarp]

ast has gotten nothing but buffs since 3.0

[torpid yoke]

Ast didnt really get easier

[open verge]

Astrologian from what it was is less jank so ye

[gaunt star]

A moment of silence for brd at the release of shb

[woven escarp]

don't you love rng songs that don't give useful benefits

[open verge]

Shb bard is one of my favorite jobs

[gaunt star]

Dont you love a brd who doesn't buff the party with their songs

[tropic frigate]

best change is the nonexistence of TP

[gaunt star]

Brd at the release of 5.0 was sad, they got rid of the songs and then gave them back??

Why get rid of them at all

[woven escarp]

why did they give them such non-buffs

especially since brd doesn't benefit from their own songs 😔

[open verge]

!action wanderers minuet

[lusty shadow]

Error!

Action not found, Kupo!

[gaunt star]

What you dont like your 1% increase?

[tropic frigate]

because dancer was taking the spot but they gave it back

[woven escarp]

wrong, you don't even get the 1% lmao

[tropic frigate]

slightly gave it back

[torpid yoke]

because brd was highly sought after in sb so they wanted to make sure that wasnt the case in SHB

[woven escarp]

brd was sought after in stormblood because disembowel was good

[torpid yoke]

then realized that they over did it and gave back some things to their songs

[woven escarp]

drg/mch/brd was mad good, and they worked super hard to make sure that wasn't the case

[open verge]

The first expansion where bard isn’t meta do everyone lost their shit

[woven escarp]

sch mains?

[gaunt star]

It was just weird that the main thing of brd was the songs and they basically removed them

[open verge]

Okay but sch is actually awful to play so I feel for them

[woven escarp]

brd players are used to their job getting a huge rework that makes it shittier

[tropic frigate]

the meta was sought after because it made a certain comp work too well

you always had drg and bard along with warriors from what i remember with debuffs

[gaunt star]

Inb4 scholar is neutered again because they want to make sage unique for the first 2 weeks of EW

[tropic frigate]

summoner was in there along with ninja

[open verge]

Goodbye energy drain first week of the expansion

[tropic frigate]

scholar really felt like it became jank

[gaunt star]

Just give back bane

It's annoying having to apply dots to 10+ targets manually

Bard could use a bane skill too, but then that'd be broken

[tropic frigate]

they could always add a limit to the amount of DoTs that work

or make it not work for the effect

[torpid yoke]

They removed Energy drain so people wouldnt feel forced to use it for DPS but also failed to give a sufficient flow dump

[gaunt star]

I never realised how painful scholar is until i started progging tea

......but energy drain helped with mana regen....did they not think of that

[tropic frigate]

the devs also put energy drain in there for mp right

[gaunt star]

I rebinded physick as a "just in case"

[woven escarp]

just cast regens lmao 4head

[gaunt star]

Why doesn't scholar have an instant cast shield ability? You'd think the shield based healer would

[woven escarp]

you do, every 60 seconds

[torpid yoke]

Because schs plan ahead

[gaunt star]

Weeehhh

[wet crown]

excog is their preparation heal

[gaunt star]

Let me be lazy, return to pvp

[tropic frigate]

i miss old ast cards for giving healers just something else to actually focus on

i am hoping sage is like it as well

[wet crown]

No, they were awful

[torpid yoke]

Old cards were meh

[gaunt star]

awful indeed

[torpid yoke]

good thing about sch rn though is that they can give massive ass shields

[gaunt star]

And look pretty

[woven escarp]

remember noct benefic in pvp?

[gaunt star]

[woven escarp]

nothing like an immortal whatever the fuck you tried to kill because 200% potency instant-cast barriers that also healed

fuck me man, NAB was so fucking irritating without the ability to chain stun and silence an ast

[gaunt star]

Remember when smn could summon in pvp

[woven escarp]

remember when smn could instagib you with deathflare?

[gaunt star]

The good days of pvp

[woven escarp]

pvp is massively more tolerable now that abilities are actually balanced in and for pvp

being instagibbed because of pve combos sucked, having good pve abilities nerfed into the ground because of pvp balance also sucked

[gaunt star]

I understand why bahamut was removed from pvp, but it's still weird to not see him

[oak pike]

theres still some menace in pvp

[woven escarp]

oh yeah, mch still has the magic eraser tool

but that's like, its only function in pvp

[torpid yoke]

fck drg in pvp

[oak pike]

GNB

[gaunt star]

fck pvp we dont need it

[torpid yoke]

MR/Mrs "Im gonna hit you while you're behind the wall just because im DRG" lookin ass >:/

[woven escarp]

drg's burst damage is hilarious in pvp

[oak pike]

back flips away

[woven escarp]

surprise, get exploded

[oak pike]

I wonder if back flips can break knock back in pve?

[woven escarp]

ryuu ga wa ga te ki wo kurau 🐉

they used to, drg was broken because elusive removed bind and heavy

having two cc breakers was nuts

[gaunt star]

When you elusive jump off a cliff after bursting the fck out of a lonely mnk

[oak pike]

monks feel like the tankiest melee dps

[gaunt star]

"I have won the battle....but at what cost?"

[torpid yoke]

yes

[forest magnet]

tank hp scaling in SHB means that SCH no longer shield as much as they did in SB

[woven escarp]

that's also a big problem, yeah

[oak pike]

tank hp scale faster than heals?

[woven escarp]

by a lot

[torpid yoke]

any ability that is movement based can negate a knockback as long as the knockback doesnt stun you

[woven escarp]

you're not getting any 200k critlos

so barriers cover less HP as a % of total HP

[oak pike]

though it does make sense since eos heals like ~3% of tank hp now

[forest magnet]

a critlo used to be able to negate a lot of tank busters

[oak pike]

SB it was a decent chunk

[woven escarp]

yeah

sch healing throughput got dropped somehow, and then barrier scaling got fucked by the huge jump in tank HP

[forest magnet]

and sch can no longer spread critlos either

[woven escarp]

so barriers are kind of lame compared to regens and lily utiltiy

[gaunt star]

I'm gonna miss my 200k hp

[forest magnet]

we HW now bois

[woven escarp]

it's funny that sch lost lustrate's % healing because it was too good at healing dps war

but that change would have made sch throughput much better in 5.0

[gaunt star]

Is that why lustrate feels so bad

[oak pike]

!action lustrate

[lusty shadow]

**Lustrate** : lvl 45 SCH (1.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Restores target's HP.
Cure Potency: 600 Additional Effect: Increases Faerie Gauge by 10
Aetherflow Gauge Cost: 1

Powered by XIVAPI

[woven escarp]

yeah, it used to be 25% of the target's HP, instead of a flat potency

[gaunt star]

Man it doesn't feel like 600 potency

[oak pike]

600 pot is like ~10-15%

[woven escarp]

which negated the penalty of cleric's stance back in the day, on top of being massively better for healing war's larger HP pool

[torpid yoke]

Square said SCH had its time in the sun. now it needs to die

[forest magnet]

cmon SE add priority targeting for the fairy

[oak pike]

the age of WHM n AST except for speed

[forest magnet]

and soon SGE

[woven escarp]

well, if sage isn't hot garbage sch will be well and truly dead until 7.0

[forest magnet]

if SGE ends up being the 'greedy' shield healer i guess SCH will still be around for parse runs, I guess.

but if they give SGE any raid utility, SCH is actually dead.

[chilly bluff]

Lustrate also got around Levi Ex’s healing debuff yeah?

[torpid yoke]

Eh we would have to see how it plays in EW to truely say that

[oak pike]

have WHM being the only selfish healer lol

[forest magnet]

no they give WHM raid utility too. more homogenization \o/

[oak pike]

pvp temperance

[forest magnet]

Dia stacking

[oak pike]

!pvpaction dia

[lusty shadow]

**Dia** : WHM (1000 MP) (2.4 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 800.
Additional Effect: Increases target's damage taken by 10%
Duration: 15s

Powered by XIVAPI

[forest magnet]

you used to be able to stack this debuff...

[oak pike]

!pvpaction temperance

[lusty shadow]

**Temperance** : WHM (60.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Increases damage dealt and healing potency by 20%, while reducing damage taken by self and all party members within a radius of 30 yalms by 10%.
Duration: 15s

Powered by XIVAPI

[oak pike]

god WHM is disgusting in pvp

[wheat agate]

idk if talk about meta comps regarding classes we know nothing about is 300 iq

[forest magnet]

Oh man were you around AST synastry

[oak pike]

nah

[forest magnet]

AST could synastry each other and become almost unkillable.

[dire flume]

Wow, that looks OP

[forest magnet]

This used to be a big problem in Rival Wings because two AST could control neutral objectives and prevent people from mounting up in Mechs.

No longer as big of an issue because of how neutral objectives work in Hidden Gorge

[oak pike]

honestly Rival wings I just pick GNB and gank casters

or ninja, if a ninja ganks you you're just fucked since they have a double execute

[forest magnet]

I wonder if they'll ever re-enable Astrolagos

[swift kraken]

im glad people are saying sch is dead before they know anything about sage kit

[gaunt star]

well sage looks cooler than a fairy eatting nerd

[swift kraken]

ok yshtola simp. i eat your kind for breakfast with waffles

[gaunt star]

https://tenor.com/view/tifa-tifa-lockhart-ff-vii-final-fantasy-final-fantasy7-gif-17071830

[unreal gale]

SCH ded.

Would they ever increase the chocobo level cap?

[torpid yoke]

Prob not.

[odd yoke]

I bet they forgotten about it

Hell accuracy is still on its trait tree

[regal lantern]

I want 1.0 Dia back!!! 😠😠😠

[torpid yoke]

1.0 dia?

[regal lantern]

Yup, it actually aligns with current lore of how Astral/Umbral works too.

Dia was basically a THM spell.

Deals astral damage over time and reduces the defense of enemies within area of effect.

Basically shifting Aetherial balance to the point it breaks, therefore causing damage and dealing weakness as your whole system is... malfunctioning?

[unreal gale]

I want to spoil my Sushibo... sad times.

[craggy pawn]

Is it just me or is the scholars on scharlyan hiding from the end of the world reminiscent of what happened with amaurot.

[kind lark]

Many have pointed it out.

[craggy pawn]

Mhh i see, luckily the same mistake wont happen again.

[maiden lodge]

They do make a deliberate call back in that quest in Amaurot to Louisoix vs Sharlayan.

It could be said the comparison to Sharlayan was made already.

[torpid yoke]

Damn, thought I was smart by connecting the dots by 5.3 but alisaie said it before me

[maiden lodge]

I mean, that still makes you smart--it just means it's less speculation and more evidence of authorial intent

[torpid yoke]

Good thing I can't read

[maiden lodge]

--Lyse, probably

[silk dragon]

so would there be a Anima Primal as a trial battle?

[tropic frigate]

huh?

[silk dragon]

or if Anima will be a primal

[tropic frigate]

iunno but i kinda assume its some type of terminus beast

[maiden lodge]

It is almost certain that Anima and Magus Sisters are trials--they're revealed in the same parts of the keynote as beast tribes, and historically, that has always meant they are trials. It doesn't mean that Anima is the beast tribe summoned by the not-Matanga or that Magus Sisters are summoned by the Lopporit, or that they are primals (ShB broke that pattern) but it's never been the case where that reveal was anything but a trial.

[silk dragon]

i just thought it was broke due to being in the first

[maiden lodge]

It's story-dependant.

[silk dragon]

but if anima is a primal fight

[maiden lodge]

Anima and Magus Sisters will very likely be a trial, yes.

[silk dragon]

remember i said if

[maiden lodge]

btw--I'm not saying you're wrong or can't be right, I think Anima is likely a primal.

I'm just saying 'We can't really know yet.'

[silk dragon]

i shuder what beast tribe is with anima if it is a primal

[pastel coyote]

Huh we know who summon the Magus

[maiden lodge]

Well, there's some validity to the theory that the Magus Sisters are the Lunar Summon created by the not-Matanga locked in a tower's walls.

The only issue I see with it--they don't look like a lunar summon.

[tropic frigate]

probably meant to be that way

[silk dragon]

a trial after a dungeon ?

[tropic frigate]

yea its happened

[maiden lodge]

Not even the third time they've done that

[dense shard]

it says if u preorder now u get the bonus items right away

[tropic frigate]

vauthry and amaurot were trials after dungeons

[dense shard]

but can i wait till 1june ? i cant preorder now

[maiden lodge]

But like... the Magus Sisters were first noted as being in the walls of the concept art for the flesh tower

[pastel coyote]

Until it's not released you can pre-order

[tropic frigate]

o yea i remember that

[silk dragon]

a puzzle boss then ?

[maiden lodge]

No no

And 5.5 revealed that those walls are where tempered slaves are kept to summon lunar primals.

[dense shard]

how long do u have time to preorder to get the bonus items

[pastel coyote]

Well it's not impossible that we get both the primal and the lunar version

[maiden lodge]

So.... what if Magus Sisters aren't primals--they're tempered slaves that we free from the wall at the end of that dungeon--and... you know... tempered slaves gonna do tempered things... and that's where they come from and why we have to fight them

[silk dragon]

speaking of witch i know for a fact that lunar bahmut would be a trial

[gaunt star]

who's gonna tell em

[clear flame]

they havent charged/collected money for it yet tho im unsure when they usually do since its my first time preordering a ffxiv expac

[maiden lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/tell-him-he-doesnt-have-to-worry-about-that-its-fine-i-can-handle-it-dont-worry-about-it-no-big-deal-gif-17057501

[silk dragon]

i just wait for a few months

[tropic frigate]

it could also end up with the magus sisters saved but dont they usually only show art of the said bosses? or is this purely for a dungeon boss?

[silk dragon]

besides we have the cure now

[maiden lodge]

They have never used that part of their keynotes to show off dungeon bosses.

[silk dragon]

it would end up being a puzzle boss or a instance fight

[maiden lodge]

It's always been trials.

That's the 'here's the trials' part of the keynote.

[tropic frigate]

yea but what bugs me is they showed art of innocence yes? and not his in game model?

[maiden lodge]

Please consider that we're six months out from release, and things might not be ready for prime time to the same level as previous keynotes.

[gaunt star]

https://tenor.com/view/kristoff-frozen-olaf-imgonnatellhim-gif-8157041

[tropic frigate]

they could be pulling something else for more content

[silk dragon]

the magus sisters might have been a tragic type of boss

[maiden lodge]

Adjust any expectations to the 'the expansion is delayed so we have to expect things are not as ready' metric

But, they won't announce a dungeon boss where they announce trial bosses.

They'd... stick that in the dungeon crawl.

[severe brook]

i see Dis has come around to my view of things

[maiden lodge]

I am open to the idea.

[tropic frigate]

also wouldnt it make sense art is shown first before an example of an in game model?

[severe brook]

my crack theory at this point is that they'll summon Lunar Valigarmanda

because the oldest sister has a bird mask. and there's three sisters. i have no other justifications.

[maiden lodge]

I am also open to the idea the Magus Sisters are a loporrit primal we have to fight for some damn annoying reason before we smooth things over and clear up misunderstandings

[silk dragon]

it would still end up tragic where the WoL frees them from tempring but its too late to reverse the summoning

[gaunt star]

delta attack time

[maiden lodge]

Make it super tragic--make them characters we meet and interact with and bond with, have them kidnapped and 'tower'd' and tempered, and make the narrative there RESCUE THEM and end it with a tragic fight

[severe brook]

this, this is good

[maiden lodge]

Oh, there WILL be delta attacks

[stiff charm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_8GSCVIw_Q

[gaunt star]

cant wait for everyone to kill themselves on it

[severe brook]

they'll probably have Delta Attack be some verison of how it was in IV, where it was a combo instead of a single spell

because then interrupting it can be part of the fight mechanics

[silk dragon]

that would be the puzzle i was talking about

[gaunt star]

delta attack
calm
what if they put archfiends in made the counters in parries
panik

[maiden lodge]

But, yeah... that's the one card they haven't played in the MSQ, where a friend gets tempered. They can do so now that we have a chance of rescuing them--and there's still stakes because Bozja established that it can be too late.

[severe brook]

my guess as to who the Magus Sisters are is that they'll be Thavnairan, in a priestess role of whoever the Thavnairan deity is

whether they're Spoken or if at least one of them is a juvenile Matanga remains to be seen

[maiden lodge]

We don't know who Thavnair's patron is

[severe brook]

though if that were the case, it'd probably just be 'Cindy' (I don't think they'll keep their old names but we'll see)

[silk dragon]

or maybe the magus sisters are willing participants and arent even tempred

[severe brook]

i mean they likely do have to be tempered to some degree, because the Towers tempers people to Garlemald/The Telophoroi to make the Primals Lunar

and i don't think Fandaniel or Zenos want or need to be considerate of possible allies' feelings on the matter

[silk dragon]

i still like the willing angle more like how Rajint was

[tropic frigate]

was the telophoroi a team who willingly want to bring the end or?

[severe brook]

we don't know about them being a team yet, so far the only willing members of the Telophoroi we know of are Fandaniel and now Zenos (I think it's implied there are other leaders, but we haven't seen them yet)

all others are Tempered to serve them

[silk dragon]

if the sisters are willing particpants it would be tragic to the WoL you cant save everyone

[severe brook]

i mean, "You can't save everyone" usually works better if the people you fail to save are victims instead of perpetrators

[silk dragon]

or if they dont want be be saved

[torpid yoke]

I'm still going with my theory that the telophori are the group that send omega to destroy the dragon star

[maiden lodge]

Bozja alread y did 'you can't save everyone' though

[severe brook]

that is quite the time frame you've got there

[torpid yoke]

I think they are a very old group

[wheat agate]

the telophoroi are a group of sharlayan elites that have ties to sundered ascians going back to the sundering and are already well aware of the moon and its secrets - said sharlayans are also roped into a deal believing they wont be harmed by the rejoinings

[severe brook]

[obsidian osprey]

is that just a theory?

[wheat agate]

yes

[pastel coyote]

Want to bet a lunar whale ?

[kind lark]

Its a game theory

[severe brook]

i could see the Sharlayan Elites having a deal with Sundered Ascians, but that's not who the Telophoroi are

[obsidian osprey]

ok i was about to say....Alphy and Alisae's dad is a bad guy then?

[severe brook]

because we've seen now that the Telophoroi are Fandaniel and Zenos' faction and followers

[torpid yoke]

Not like we know anything about the telophori

[wheat agate]

theres too much connection between amaruotine architecture and sharlayan shenanigans based off of the dungeon crawls we were provided
I would not be surprised if sharlayan heads were well aware of the nature of hydaelyn/zodiark far before the scions were

but like yoshi-p said its all a mystery 😎

[pastel coyote]

Well a bit

[obsidian osprey]

i felt that. Fandaniel is fr a mood. Which is why he and Zenos are legit my favorite antags in FF14.

Zenos is a mood too....one that i can relate with.

[pastel coyote]

It feel at home

[stiff charm]

and that they are somehow doing something new with magitek, hence "telotek" in paglth'an

[severe brook]

i don't think that means they have weird telotek so much as that's just magitek being operated by Telophoroi-tempered

[torpid yoke]

Nah I think that's just to tell you it's for the telophori

[wheat agate]

i am the telephory

[stiff charm]

probably, but i wouldnt be surprised if they are doing weird tempering or otherwise aether-based tech

since the telophoroi are probably not all garleans

[severe brook]

i am the telophone

[maiden lodge]

telo just means 'end-'

[wet crown]

in a nutshell, yes

[maiden lodge]

But, if it's wrong and there's some wierdo stuff there, like with Arch Ultima, I'm for it

Actually... Arch Ultima..... might need to look at th at f urth e r

[severe brook]

can't wait for roving Arch Ultimas to just be FATEs in Garlemald

[maiden lodge]

So it might not be in the same series of things as the Wea pon s

[stiff charm]

TELO-ULTIMA

[maiden lodge]

I want to do a comparison of a couple things

So Arch-ultima's screamer doesn't have a common effect with the Amal'jaa screamers in the Paglth'an telotower

But they may be related.

[severe brook]

it does seem to be implied that Arch-Ultima's technology was a predecessor to the WEAPONs, even if it's not actually party of their series

[maiden lodge]

Though, there seems to be more similarities to towers than the weapon project, which instead seemed to be focusing on soulstone-variations through artificial auracite.

[severe brook]

nothing stopping it from being the shared ancestor of both projects

[maiden lodge]

Also true.

[teal geyser]

hey hey guys

https://twitter.com/largecatboy/status/1394169076268904448

Dumbass Engineer (@largecatboy)

@Larryzaur mfw I let the world, including my children, die while I live in a bunker that blasts penis music 24/7

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Twitter · May 17, 2021, 5:53 AM

[maiden lodge]

He can always make more children. He can't make another Forknaughty.

[turbid aspen]

whats 16 more years
sips ancient juice

[kind lark]

ffxiv is about dads fighting.

[heady shadow]

Im waiting for the pic when they give him xehanort eyes, id do it but that level of image editing is beyond me

[severe brook]

why did Fourchenault turn into Heisenberg from RE8

[forest magnet]

Ah a fellow Jizz enjoyer

[gaunt cradle]

Alisaie isn't a bitch you take that back

[stiff charm]

^ how dare you

[woven escarp]

alisaie sucks

[subtle pasture]

[heady shadow]

i measn from the trailer it looks like she headed into battle and the WoL and aplhinaud were catching up and she almost got wacked

[torpid yoke]

I'm detecting super bad takes in here

[teal geyser]

She's a bitch

And we love her for it

[turbid aspen]

actual personality trait
and yes

[obsidian pagoda]

I think I told Hedge this, but I had Alisaie in the list of baby names and then didn't use it cause I don't wanna raise a brat

[teal geyser]

Oof

[heady shadow]

Oh boy.

Im gonna need a bankai macro from reaper xD

[torpid yoke]

What a wee- /s

[left lynx]

Out of curiosity, do we know when the next EW announcement/fan-fest/whatever will be or will they just announce it whenever?

[open verge]

Nope

Maybe e3? Tokyo game show?
Expansion is far out we won’t be getting much news for a while maybe interviews here and there

[odd yoke]

They mentioned a media tour around September when talking about the schedule, which is when the big combat info drops from the people who attend

[open verge]

Next live letter will be months from now too so prepare for a drought

[left lynx]

eh plenty of time to (hopefully) catch up

[heady shadow]

tggggggggggggggggggl;...'

[odd yoke]

6 months is enough time in the world to cap all jobs

[heady shadow]

]]]]]]]]]]]]]]'

[inner kite]

tokyo game show is sep 30

[open verge]

Which is basically October the month I expect the media tour and job action to roll out

[left lynx]

i mean buy SB/ShB, do all the story, level what I want to level, and do side-stuff

[odd yoke]

Yeah still plenty of time

[open verge]

@heady shadow amigo stop sleeping on the keyboard

When do you plan on buying Sb/shb

[left lynx]

July hopefully

[heady shadow]

thats the cat reeeee

i was at the store.

[odd yoke]

So you really are a cat #exposed

[torpid yoke]

Imagine not having every job at 80 already. Could not be me

[odd yoke]

Ikr

I love those preorder earrings sitting in my inventory getting dust

Though...I wonder how decent it is on blue....

[torpid yoke]

The bozja ones were helpful when I leveled blu

[odd yoke]

Well stat wise...mine is already capped out

[dim sigil]

Do these earring effect doh and dol?

[supple kite]

no

[dim sigil]

Lame

I wanna talk to their manager

[gritty pawn]

doh/dol levels so fast though

[dull lake]

Am i the only one who thinks she looks like a Viera?

Tried to recreate her to see how it would be

[heady shadow]

i mean imo Reaper basically has a shikai and bankai anyway soooooo xD

[open verge]

She might use a viera base

[obsidian pagoda]

this is a hot topic lol, yes the consensus is she will have viera base but custom face

[stiff charm]

yup, i did the same lol

[dull lake]

Her face is def nothing like regular mid/highlanders

and her face def is closest to viera

[stiff charm]

viera face 2 jaw 4 is super close

[dull lake]

It is, but her eyebrows look more like face 1

[supple kite]

she doesnt have ears so why is it even worth discussing lol

[turbid aspen]

because despite that she looks a lot like a viera

[dull lake]

Just because she doesnt have the ears doesnt make her not recemble vieras to the point that it's worth discussing

like, we could really argue that there's an explanation behind it

[obsidian pagoda]

Theres precedent of NPC using different race as base, see the Garleans

[turbid aspen]

midlander too smol
highlander too stronk

[heady shadow]

omg, a npc is using assets from other races and/or combined with other assets like the devs do almost all the time omg....

.>

[dull lake]

She's without a doubt using a viera-face, or something incredibly close to it

Now, will there a reason for that, i dunno

[supple kite]

this lol... im not seeing anything other than devs reusing assets

[stiff charm]

unless venat is secretly stronk

[obsidian pagoda]

what if we're all wrong and she's using Minfilia's original body?

[turbid aspen]

yknow what when 5.55 comes im gonna get venats face on a highlander body with cmtools

[stiff charm]

corpse

[dull lake]

It's still worth discussing the fact that she does look like a viera, regardless of just using assets or actually having a reason behind it

[obsidian pagoda]

Ascian style body hop

[heady shadow]

theres literally nothing big about it, its just the devs decided to use assets from other races and combined/changed them.

mostlky to make us all mad that we are locked out of other CC options like hairlstyles, faces, makeup etc

eyes....

[turbid aspen]

tfw no derplander beard yet

[heady shadow]

8.0 look forward to it

[dull lake]

they better bring the derplander beard

i really see no reason to not include it

other than making the trailers look ''unique''

[torpid yoke]

I don't speak bleach

[somber storm]

Time to make a samurai to reaper bankai glam and macro

[torpid yoke]

That's not even me being like "haha weeb" I literally don't know what those terms mean/are

[heady shadow]

i mean you know they are from bleach so xD

meh the scythe alone can be the sealed, the pointed when the reaper comes out can be shikai and the bankai is the little fusion burst thing it does

[torpid yoke]

Its been years since I've watched bleach XD

[heady shadow]

rip

[somber storm]

https://tenor.com/view/bleach-smack-anime-gif-9885041

[heady shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/bleach-bankai-gif-19367207

[rare sinew]

Anyone got the pic of the tweet showing 2 gundams as the two new jobs?

It was like, "ffxiv new job in a nutshell"

[errant mortar]

did they say whether zadnor would have its own lost actions or if they continue from bsf?

[deft burrow]

Probably same

There may be new ones introduced though

[errant mortar]

i have like none right now and was considering farming some in prep for zadnor lol

[forest magnet]

dude we've been discussing that for the past 2 hrs

[obsidian osprey]

queue Byakuya Bankai Music

https://tenor.com/view/byakuya-anime-bleach-attack-gif-9101202

[heady shadow]

I..... actually dont remember his theme

[obsidian osprey]

.

Go look it up rn....its a banger

[heady shadow]

Oh okay

[obsidian pagoda]

There's gotta be Bleach references in the Reaper quest, I guarantee it

[forest magnet]

are there bleach references in SAM quests

[stiff charm]

still mad the sam quest achievement isnt "jetstream sam" (its sam i am)

[obsidian osprey]

good question.

[obsidian pagoda]

I haven't levelled my SAM but I'll keep this in mind when I do

[heady shadow]

would be sad if there werent

[somber storm]

Nah0

[gaunt star]

byakuya
Hisagi and Renji are right there

[wary perch]

https://twitter.com/Q6Q6TIKIN/status/1394979844946022413?s=09

ふしゅ・表垢 (@Q6Q6TIKIN)

つい

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[soft maple]

My GOD that looks AMAZING

[tropic frigate]

how hard is it to even rank high in triple triad tourney

because if this is getting em all its gonna take time

[obsidian osprey]

hawt

[inner kite]

Tataru make us studium outfits pls🙌

[heady shadow]

meh they suck /s

[gaunt star]

[obsidian pagoda]

Moenbryda in Forum outfit

That outfit is so legit, lemme have it as glam

[echo orbit]

$20

[carmine basin]

It's gonna be a character outfit set that's undyeable

[obsidian pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/money-shutup-take-gif-7953571

You know what I wanna see? The Studium having a uniform and the students all customise it like loose ties, rolled up sleeves, etc

[carmine basin]

That'd happen in a manga/anime but here its more work for the modelers

[obsidian pagoda]

If only that manga was not an April's Fool

[simple axle]

i wonder how old sharlayan gonna react when we mention about idyllshire

[maiden lodge]

Honestly, I think they'd be more worried someone got into Gubal.

'The goblins took over Idyllshire' i sleep
'Also I personally broke into Gubal. Twice. [more on some jobs]' real shit

[balmy mesa]

"I also found your collection of romance novels"

[maiden lodge]

'At least he didn't kill the Everliving Bibliotaph.' 'I killed the Everliving Bibliotaph.' 'Oh fuck, you better have escaped before Strix killed you for it.' 'Yeah... about that....'

[severe brook]

can't wait to have to deal with Sharlayan's expert Voidsent-binder

[carmine basin]

Will we meet the roegadyn lusting after brayflox, bc I spot a roegadyn on the forum 👀

[severe brook]

clearly that was just Nyunkrepf's ghost since he disappeared in the top-down view

[viscid monolith]

Can we rat on that dickhead Astrologian and the people that sent him

The one that tried to kill is with his shitty time stop

[simple axle]

playable goblin when

[inner kite]

gobbie of light

[turbid bough]

So white rabbit can't get my endwalker box order, does anyone have any other sites they can recommend?

[gaunt star]

"i broke into gubal library"
"...What"
"7 times"
"Why"
Holds up glowy book "bitter"

[somber storm]

"Look at all these books I grabbed from the library"

[gaunt star]

"hey what the hell was the bibliotaph about"

[brazen stag]

There is a book in Gubal that is just about how beautiful Brayflox is.

[woven escarp]

https://twitter.com/StormYorha/status/1395057891627909123

yorha ✨ 太ったお尻 (@StormYorha)

i need ppl outside the FFXIV sphere to really understand that everytime a new expansion releases the producer director Yoshi-P comes on stage dressed up as one of the new classes, this is very important

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[somber storm]

Catboi Yoshi-P

[woven escarp]

https://twitter.com/StormYorha/status/1395058726512566272

yorha ✨ 太ったお尻 (@StormYorha)

@DaeWaves the prequel to all

Twitter · May 19, 2021, 4:48 PM

yoshi-p dedicated to the end

they'll be boxing him up and he'll still be posting live letters at the funeral

[chilly bluff]

He'll even go to work the next day to yell at Oda

[gaunt star]

No Ashe gear in bozja? Time to bully yoship

[severe finch]

thats what im saying

like, id understand if males got larsa and females got ashe for healing/casting but no its just both larsa 😭

ashe makes perfect sense for healing/casting considering she has the highest mp and magic attack growth out of the entire party

[pine epoch]

Ya but larsa is mr hi potion

Also he has access to spells you dont got when you get him in the party for the first time. Tho those arent as important as his infinite hi potions

[gaunt star]

Clearly forcing Larsa gear on us is due to the chemist fanboys. To this day they continue to terrorize us

[pulsar yacht]

Worst of all there was some birds who made nests out of book paper and were shitting on things

[rough kestrel]

[untold gull]

i'm rewatching primals concert and i gotta say, twinning.mp4 made real is the best shit ever

[pine epoch]

I swear. I'd they release a dvd/blu ray of the concert I'd buy it in a heart beat

[obsidian pagoda]

I love the Yoshi P vs Koji rap battle

They also apologised for singing What Angel Wakes me in ojisan voices after having Amanda do an amazing job the night before

[turbid aspen]

DANCING ON THE WIND
FA LA LA LA LA

[obsidian pagoda]

I keep rewatching the stream but the audio isn't the best

[wary perch]

They have the live stream recorded on official channel

So sorry for yoship during concert though

The band just told Yoshi to go off stage since he already sing his part

So he leave while singing byako lol

[pine epoch]

He wanted to sing byakko

Band told him no

[wary perch]

I was hoping he would sing it

I don't have a chance to watch the fan fest where he sing byako yet

[placid sail]

Yoshida's version of Amatsu Kaze is incredible

[tropic frigate]

i noticed compared to the shadowbringers dungeon crawl that we dont really get to hear any different music in endwalker

[pine epoch]

Ya cause were hiding everything behind a veil of FF4 nostalgia

To pull the rug under everyones feet and reveal it was really chrono trigger all this time

[tropic frigate]

also i really like radz at han and will be so glad it replaces eulmore simply because of the music

[pine epoch]

Compared to the rest of FF14. Radz colors are super fucking saturated

[wary perch]

Even better if it's CT music

[pine epoch]

Like there is more color there than else. And shaders are gonna suffer

[tropic frigate]

yea i noticed the forest part looks to be

[wary perch]

I want robo and frog theme

Magus battle music too

[tropic frigate]

but it also looks like they have some sort of light filter almost like how shadowbringers used a dark one

[pine epoch]

Go to the not zeal island and corridors of time starts playing.

[tropic frigate]

over videos

[wary perch]

I forgive zenos if his battle is Magus theme

[distant sonnet]

If corridors of time plays in totally-not-Zeal I'll die on the spot.

[wary perch]

It's ok, other CT music can raise you back

[distant sonnet]

Indeed.

I love that theme, you see.

[obsidian pagoda]

I was like why tf would Crystal Tower music raise you up and then I realised you're talking about Chrono Trigger

[distant sonnet]

If it kills me I have a realdoll of myself in the basement for.. reasons. You know what to do with it.

[wary perch]

You still need someone to reach the top of Everest during an eclipse though

[somber storm]

[open verge]

It’s gonna be funny that there will be few male viera npc when the player population will be flooded with them

[gaunt star]

Why did this channel become NSFW

[distant sonnet]

What was NSFW? Getting to the top of Everest during an eclipse?

[gaunt star]

It’s to prevent sprouts from getting spoiled because they can’t read

[distant sonnet]

Ohhh that

[rain onyx]

blame discord for not having an actual spoiler/warning label for channels

[brazen trout]

all sprouts are minors

[obsidian pagoda]

This is just another horny jail channel

[fallen girder]

Time to post mature content

Jk eanae would murder me

[distant sonnet]

Hahaha
.... unless?

[fallen girder]

I haven't ever seen any mature content in my life so idek what it is tho

😇

[placid sail]

https://tenor.com/view/bb7-big-brother7-chicken-george-george-boswell-bblegends-gif-17971678

mature content time

https://tenor.com/view/real-mature-grow-up-act-right-annoyed-frustrated-gif-15844882

[fallen girder]

So how about

Paying taxes huh

[fallen girder]

Have you started building up your retirement fund already

[rain onyx]

[fallen girder]

Hey

You got no proof, I'm innocent until proven guilty

[strong dew]

Lol, I asked my husband (who doesn't play FFXIV) to sum up the Endwalker trailer. He simply stated "lots of flashy lights and fighting, a pretty harbor, and that cat monk dude seems to have a revelation of some sort. Then back to more flashy lights" XD

[gaunt star]

Cat monk. Monk graha...

[open verge]

Thoughts on these

[turbid aspen]

he has clearly been working out just look at that neck

[open verge]

The penolo gear is super cute

[gaunt star]

Caster set looks like trash compared to the healer set, same for maiming compared to the tank set

[quiet dagger]

lmao cat monk