retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[wary perch]

At best it's just media tour in japan

[heady shadow]

otherwise yeah its weird they didnt show the second trial

[pine epoch]

Media Tour was confirmed

[sacred owl]

fair enough, Anima could be everywhere - from Sharlyan to Garlemald, even the moon would be possible

[heady shadow]

i saw some tweet with someone comparing the chai zenos was in to anima

[pine epoch]

They confirmed they were going to do a Media Tour during the keynote. tho they didn't say how it would be handled

[wary perch]

I have a feeling it will be at thavniar
Don't know why

[sacred owl]

Fair point - could be a beast of the Telophoroi attacking the nation

[pine epoch]

My guess Media Tour will be a conference call with just in game footage. Either that or they surprise us and do a public test realm for everyone to experience the 83 dungeon and level 90 abilities.

[wary perch]

@pine epoch one way to do it is to give special access to their media tour server but I'm not sure it's feasible or not

[heady shadow]

that sounds great but also a big undertaking

[pine epoch]

yes it would be a big undertaking

Why i don't think its likely

[wary perch]

It will never be public. Too much risk

[pine epoch]

Risk of people datamining wooooooooo. If anything it will be something like a Closed beta test and you gotta apply for it.

[wary perch]

They need the embargo to control and build hype

[heady shadow]

kinda sucks

because they usually do that at a actual fanfest no? the 83 trial/dungeon thing

or was that media tour only?

[sacred owl]

don't they just do a dungeon? :o

[pine epoch]

but ya, its why I feel media tour will be a conference call with people and just streaming in game footage and touring a zone.

[wary perch]

Also prevent those armchair analyst on over analyse the skills while it still in development

[heady shadow]

would be nice to be a well known streamer aye? xD

[pine epoch]

Media Tour is usually access to all jobs at max level, you can fight overworld mobs. and you get to experience 1 Dungeon.

usually its the x3 Dungeon. stormblood was Shi Sui, SHB was Dohn Mheg

the only one that did a interesting video with the media tour was Ethys, who instead spent most of his time exploring the Zone available. Which was Lakeland (Except for the isle of bismark), and Il Mheg.

everyone else just made the same here is this Job and their new stuff video

[sacred owl]

which brings up the order of places we go to
staring in Sharlyan, then Thavnir, Garlemald and the Moon at the end, I would guess

[heady shadow]

there one/two more zones they havent shown

[sacred owl]

Labyrinthos and the floating islands, yes

[heady shadow]

which i am betting the final zone is gonna be connected to the moon.
not part of the moon zone mind but maybe a portal to it.

though im sure some would call that ludicrous.

[pine epoch]

they've only shown 5 zones. Labryinthos, Thavnair, Garlemald, and Moon. and floating island

Labrynthos I think will be the Sharlayan zone, and we will enter it by traveling into Sharlayan. Thavnair I think will be our starting zone.

I feel this expansion is going to be more like Heavensward zone progression. Where its more of a Linear straight line. the zone I think we will revisit will be Garlemald and probably Thavnair. while Labrynthos the floating island and moon will be linear

moon being like our Dravanian hinterlands

[obsidian pagoda]

Labyrinthos has the Dravania/Gyr Abania aetheryte. If it's Sharlayan could it possibly be closer to Idyllshire than Old Sharlayan?

[wind bough]

Good catch

[turbid aspen]

not enough gil for the fancy nautical aetheryte

[heady shadow]

be carefulk when talking about the aytheryte

[sacred owl]

I kinda doubt the part about Sharlayan - they said, it's going to be the new player hub and compared it with the Crystarium, so I kinda feel we will start there and keep returning to

[wind bough]

That’s an “early Aetheryte” constructed 1000-1500 years ago during the Sixth Astral Era.

[pine epoch]

I mean We start in Rhalgers Reach the small city for stormblood

[obsidian pagoda]

Also it has this tower in it... does it look like the one Grenolt lived in under the sea?

[pine epoch]

and go to kugane after the first dungeon

[wind bough]

Looks like an elevator or chimney out of the dome

[pine epoch]

I honestly think it will be similar go to thavnair first, then after 1 dungeon we enter Sharlayan

[heady shadow]

dis yesterday was talking about it and there was a argument about it just being a plaeholder sooooooooo

[wind bough]

What aetherytes are shown in the other zone footage?

[obsidian pagoda]

"Subject to change". Could be they wanna hide the Sharlayan connection

[obsidian pagoda]

Radz at Han has the nautical aetheryte like Old Sharlayan

[wind bough]

Possible it’s a placeholder but that shouldn’t be a reason not to speculate

[heady shadow]

thav had i think had eorzea ones

tell that to the people who were arguing about it for two hours

[wind bough]

If I see it again then I will tell them that

[obsidian pagoda]

Thav has the nautical one

[wind bough]

[sacred owl]

Guess that this is something we will be able to tell once it hits, I guess ^^

[heady shadow]

go ahead have fun with them xD

[edgy gale]

I'm curious as to what the "congestion" early story split is going to be i.e. story forking briefly before meeting back up.

[wind bough]

How strange

[heady shadow]

one sec

[wind bough]

Perhaps it’s a new design they got from trade with Sharlayan

... or an old one

[obsidian pagoda]

I keep thinking the aetheryte is to denote expansions but clearly not as HW/SB have the same ones in a few area

[heady shadow]

theres another pic of a different area i dont remember where i saw the image though

[wind bough]

There’s lore behind the aetheryte types yeah

[obsidian pagoda]

The moon has a different aetheryte again

[wind bough]

The ones in ARR areas and Foundation are ones reconstructed post-Calamity, the pre-Calamity ones are ancient

The ones with the flat top were built earlier in the Sixth Astral Era and weren’t destroyed by the Calamity

[obsidian pagoda]

Oh, my mistake, Radz-at-han has Eorzean aetheryte but Thavnair doesn't

[wind bough]

Wtf then

[obsidian pagoda]

🤷‍♀️

[wind bough]

Here’s the lore on aetheryte types: https://gamerescape.com/2015/10/28/lore-train-duty-commenced-aetheryte-lore-lowdown/

[pine epoch]

most likely placeholder aetheryte

Since there is 0 NPCs in the zone trailer

[wind bough]

The differences are very bizarre though

[obsidian pagoda]

Actually that Radz aetheryte looks a bit more embellished than Eorzean ones

[pine epoch]

Yes it definitely is

[wind bough]

The Sharlayan one in Thavnair is the bizarro one

[balmy mesa]

They may be updating all aetherytes in 6.0 if it looks a bit more embellished

[heady shadow]

thing is the argument was about labirynthos.
because it has the similar ones from I think idylshire?

[obsidian pagoda]

It's got the same base but it has crystals and banners dangling from it

[heady shadow]

its just weird. its all ducking weird

[obsidian pagoda]

Yes Labyrinthos and Idyllshire have the same one

[wind bough]

Many zones have that one

[heady shadow]

HW yeah

[wind bough]

Such as Ala Mhigo

[heady shadow]

right.

[balmy mesa]

the moon has a similar looking aetheryte to the one in Amaurot but they're still different

[wind bough]

Strange they wouldn’t use the Sharlayan one there when they have the model for it in Thavnair

[heady shadow]

i cant find the one aytheryte image

[balmy mesa]

The Sharlayan aetheryte in Thavnair looked like it was at a port (maybe a former enclave?)

[obsidian pagoda]

It is at the dock

[wind bough]

I’d buy that if there was anything else remotely Sharlayan looking around it

[balmy mesa]

who worked on the aetheryte network though?

[wind bough]

Sharlayan, but they made the design seen in ARR areas

[heady shadow]

anyway i cant the one image dammit

[obsidian pagoda]

Moon aetheryte

Very much screams Ancients

[balmy mesa]

The interior looked like Ancients too

[sacred owl]

now, watch it being made by the Moon Buns

[heady shadow]

the theme should have given that bway

[wind bough]

It also played a ‘Neath Dark Waters remix

[obsidian pagoda]

The door handle is like a couple of feet above Derp's head. It's probably Elidibus' castle

[sacred owl]

the true Ancients: the Loporrits

[balmy mesa]

Or a research outpost

[wind bough]

And the walls are lined with concept crystals. They’re not exactly hiding the ancient factor

[balmy mesa]

Then there was that shard of Dalamud too?

[rough kestrel]

What's behind the building

Is Zodiark just sitting in a crater under like an Alexander bubble?

[obsidian pagoda]

The purple thing? It looks like an energy dome. We didn't see it in the walkthrough tho

[wind bough]

Dalamud shard or Allagan spaceship

Or both—one of the Ragnaroks that were docked there

[rough kestrel]

What? in the purple crater?

[wind bough]

No it’s out in the moonscape

[rough kestrel]

Oh you're responding to h3

[wind bough]

In the video footage

[obsidian pagoda]

It's got jet engine? Looks like a full spaceship

[wind bough]

Oh yeah that’s a vessel for sure

[sacred owl]

could be our space ship as well

[heady shadow]

WoL trapped on the moon mwhahahaha

imagine for like a little bit they disable your teleport xD

[obsidian pagoda]

True, it looks rather small. Certainly not the logo spaceship

[balmy mesa]

not the space dorito that's for sure

[heady shadow]

i wonder what the purple flower thing is in that image

to the left.

[balmy mesa]

mushrooms it looks like

[sacred owl]

looks like a purple mushroom :3

[obsidian pagoda]

There's heaps of plant life on the moon

[heady shadow]

prob because zodi is there

[balmy mesa]

chaotic plant life

[heady shadow]

Oh boy

[sacred owl]

ah, so Reaper is the botanist for the moon, I see x3

[heady shadow]

human eating plant monsters yeet

[meager panther]

Well, they share the scythes in common, and I love the idea of RPR botanizing on the moon.

[obsidian pagoda]

I mean if I see this I'd wanna kill it too ya know

[sacred owl]

happy Reaper noises

[turbid aspen]

real sad mask sculpting hours who up

[sacred owl]

I mean, there are bunnies on the moon, they have to eat as well :D

[meager panther]

Burn it with fire! summons Ifrit to hug the strange thing to death

[heady shadow]

oh boy

eiother way gonna be a long ass six months

[sacred owl]

Aren't these just some rocks with sticky stuff between? :o

[turbid aspen]

well they look like ancient masks

[meager panther]

Lick them.

[turbid aspen]

like i said sad mask sculpting hours

[meager panther]

Ascian mask therapy?

Like what do they do for depression? Sit on the moon and make masks all day?

[balmy mesa]

I swear I've seen some of those plants in Satisfactory lol

[sacred owl]

https://tenor.com/view/ffxiv-emet-selch-shb-gif-18075484

"Remember that we once mad masks ..."

[heady shadow]

also i got a question, why is everyone saying zenos' scythe is magitek when it clearly is using bones/flesh in its construction? is it because of the gun components?

[meager panther]

Why did I expect him to flip off the viewer at the end? Total sassiness.

[chilly bluff]

And then we find that one is an Emil head

[obsidian pagoda]

In the video the thing contracts and expands like its breathing

[meager panther]

@heady shadow Why not all the above? It has flesh, bones, machinery, maybe some voidsent meat in there, and a little incense burner.

[balmy mesa]

the incense burner just brings it all together 👌

[heady shadow]

No no he need a smoke pipe like Gandalf keeps his on his cane

[sacred owl]

photosynthesis ... x3
jokes aside, I think the rocks are our least problem, ngl

[meager panther]

XD Zenos smoking with his scythe as a giant smoke pipe.

[sacred owl]

imagine, Zenos destroying the whole world but Radz-at-Han, because he wants to go to the pipe bar x3

[obsidian pagoda]

I mean there's a First Beast on the moon so yeah I'd take fighting rocks anyday lol

[meager panther]

You know, Zenos is so angry and bloodthirsty all the time, but I bet when you get some anti-psychotics in his system, and calm down all that bloodlust, he might be a nice guy.

Just gotta shove a lot of stuff to fix all... that anger and.... rage.

[sacred owl]

The problem is, he isn't really that angry ^^"
But at least, he has a good taste c:

[heady shadow]

i wonder what kind of stuff he'd use

[sacred owl]

since as a reaper, we can fuse with our voidsent ... maybe that's the way he fuses with Zodiark?
... no? Understandable ^^

[heady shadow]

btw the speakers guy lukile lost his shit when they said the 24man had to do with the 12

[obsidian pagoda]

Oooh I haven't seen Speakers vid yet

[heady shadow]

i think they only got the reaction for thwe trailer up, i dont know if they have highlights for the keynote, i only know the stream is being sub

for now

[rough kestrel]

I was watching their recap of the keynote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJfoeL81u2E

I just noticed the Guitar in the thumbnail

[heady shadow]

ah okay they do have it up

[obsidian pagoda]

these guys aren't the most popular but they're my favourite XIV channel. Their banters are so comfy

[wary perch]

The electric guitar performance will be available in 5.55 right?

[heady shadow]

ye

[rough kestrel]

They're good but I think I like Ethys more for lore stuff

Rollo and the other dude kind of get on my nerves, but the main guy is usually fine

[heady shadow]

they are mostly into the old 1.0 lore anyway

but i wouldnt say lukile knows less than ethys

just different channel focus

[rough kestrel]

He does know alot, both he an Ethys had a similar level of excitement for lore shit in the trailer

But Ethys is the only person I've seen to not immediately look at the dragon and go "It's Tiamat, It's Hraesvelgr"

Or something

[heady shadow]

i mean for old time players there was a ton that they were going nuts over

the Twelve probably the biggest one

[rough kestrel]

I do generally like Speakers though just in general

They had a whole segment on Nier one week that was so painful to listen to

[obsidian pagoda]

Speakers banter about other stuff than just lore. If I want lore I go to Ethys but if I wanna see other game features it's the Speakers I watch.

[rough kestrel]

I was like "Guys stop, please just move on"

[obsidian pagoda]

I kept wanting to correct Rollo

[rough kestrel]

I watched the Clemps streams for his first time through the Nier raids and that was great

He had alot of fun with it.

[obsidian pagoda]

My husband watched the Clemps Drakengard/Nier vids cause I had them on TV and his first view was the one with the queen beast and "Tokyo"

[heady shadow]

lol

better then first seeing the queen beast giving birth to the babies

[turbid aspen]

oh jeez that was my first watch of drakengard too
kept me up at night ngl

[heady shadow]

lmao

[obsidian pagoda]

Big naked preggo lady on top of some ruined city... That game was pretty fucked up

[heady shadow]

some ruined city from fuck knows what time period

[meager panther]

And then you and your dragon get shot down by fighter planes.

[heady shadow]

different ending

[meager panther]

Oh... yeah.

It still messed me up.

[heady shadow]

theres a modern city in the drakngard earth that was brought from some point in time to roman period causing a time divergence

but yeah messed up either way

[turbid aspen]

"why is tokyo so grey"
"what even IS THAT why is its tongue out like that"
"does the dragon seriously die like that"
"i wonder if this could be a real event someday" and so and so

[wind bough]

I don’t listen to speakers podcast/stream but I like the video content

[south shell]

oh are we talking about drakengard and oh god we're talking about drakengard

[heady shadow]

no we arent talking about it nooo

[meager panther]

T-T

Giant baby demons descend upon us all.

[heady shadow]

though... would be funny if the final boss we are actually sent into the past, defeat fandan then get blown up xD

[south shell]

i beg you man i delved into taro's works for like 4 weeks i just got out of it please man

[meager panther]

Taro embodies the harsh cruelty of reality, and I love that about his works.

[south shell]

imagine at the end of 6.0 while the titlecard rolls we get

FINAL FANTASY XIV: ENDWALKER
[A]n end, and a new beginning.

[heady shadow]

then it just ends

[south shell]

yes

[meager panther]

And then you watch the WoL get eaten.

[south shell]

"THOSE BABIES DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PROTIEN"

[heady shadow]

ah, that one dungeon with the four biome shit is probably ancients stuff

[pine epoch]

Ya that dungeon is built around what appears to be a Ancient Tower. with 4 biomes that look to be testing grounds for say different creatures

With the central tower having what looks like a roost for birbs

[heady shadow]

yeah, wtaching the speakers podcast about it ehy think it might be a backup/testing place too

[pine epoch]

one theory I like, is this might be the dungeon on the floating island

Since it seems to take place in the clouds

[heady shadow]

possibly, i wouldn't rule it out since if i did and if it ends up being right then i'd look a fool

oh my god, i fucking hate this keyboard, never puts the right letters down

[teal geyser]

[wary perch]

What if the floating islands is the island of sanctuary

[next oriole]

https://twitter.com/mizuha1218/status/1393431656627724289

スンサン@Ramuh (@mizuha1218)

https://t.co/BZxII3QqbR

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Twitter · May 15, 2021, 5:02 AM

[cinder glade]

Was the jobs tone for reaper shown anywhere

[balmy mesa]

nah

[wary perch]

I hope reaper unseathe and running pose doesn't look awkward lol

[teal geyser]

It was leaked though

Trust me this is official

[wary perch]

The only thing that annoyed me with drk is it's running pose

[cinder glade]

Didnt finish drawing your pizza slice

[balmy mesa]

pizza slice is smn

[heady shadow]

btw, isnt this the first time they had the bad guy representing the new job?

[wind bough]

Zenos was a samurai in SB too

He’s done it twice!

[heady shadow]

Oh right

I forgot we considered zenos a samurai

[balmy mesa]

ah yes, his golf caddy

[wind bough]

Well he’s not really but he sort of is

[teal geyser]

he's a weeb, he simps for anime man, he has katanas.

He is a samurai

[wind bough]

Storm swell sword parallels the three sens, he accumulates aether by spinning his scabbard like how we build kenki

But he sure ain’t got traditional sword form 👀

[balmy mesa]

he's a kenki bastard, is that what you're saying?

[wind bough]

Most definitely

[ruby hull]

Reaper icon will very likely be the hood of the wraith

[somber storm]

https://twitter.com/FF_XIV_EN/status/1394956087909027843?s=09

FINAL FANTASY XIV (@FF_XIV_EN)

Let's talk about male Viera today.

Twitter · May 19, 2021, 10:00 AM

[faint dagger]

dissidia zenos is a legitimately fun depiction of the sen gauge

[viscid monolith]

Almost fun enough to make me play again

[gaunt star]

https://tenor.com/view/soken-fan-fest-lahee-otamatone-hum-gif-21581907

[unreal wadi]

https://twitter.com/WhyMaige/status/1394636430152912900?s=20

🌺 𝗪𝗵𝘆 𝗠𝗮𝗶𝗴𝗲 (@WhyMaige)

#SHBspoilers

"Don't you dare leave me alone. No matter what happens, we have to survive. Together"
-Alisae Leveilleur

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Twitter · May 18, 2021, 12:50 PM

[open verge]

Are they gonna actually provide more info on male viera or is it just for the tweet lol

[unreal wadi]

Alisaie literally smiles when we come to help her

but goes "I can take care of myself, you know" when Alphinaud heals her

[regal lantern]

There should be a naming convention posted sometime near expansion release and more lore in character creator. But that’s it

[open verge]

She got hit while doing an insta cast move 🙊

[somber storm]

She was lagging

[unreal wadi]

which one, scorch?

[open verge]

Ye she was just doing the animation

[tidal mauve]

she skipped redoublement she deserves it

[supple kite]

are they actually gonna talk about male viera today

[inner kite]

It'a joke

[open verge]

Probably not

https://twitter.com/ff_xiv_en/status/1394971094910636034?s=21

FINAL FANTASY XIV (@FF_XIV_EN)

The male Viera will be making a grand entrance in #Endwalker!

Here's another gorgeous illustration by Yusuke Mogi!

🌑 https://t.co/f8LTPGxIUH

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Twitter · May 19, 2021, 11:00 AM

The exact same info they posted already

[supple kite]

love that feather in his hair

[open verge]

LOL never noticed

[lucid sedge]

She's a red mage she can use some healing magic

[inner kite]

That scene was so dumb

[unreal wadi]

I see, waiting on the PLD clemency

[open verge]

I’m kinda disappointed with the designs of male viera but that’s what most players wanted them to look like so it’s fine

[unreal wadi]

but yeah, vercure

[unreal wadi]

so basically that's what we're gonna be seeing in Limsa when 6.0 drops

[lucid sedge]

I was hoping for a bit more of a wiry build than a femboy build

like between midlander and highlander in musculature

[inner kite]

Maybe we'll get good sliders

[lucid sedge]

hopefully yeah

[open verge]

Yea I wanted them to be more of a savage hunter but all the faces shown in the trailer don’t look that way

[lucid sedge]

I don't mind the faces, it's just their body that irks me

[untold gull]

so a fem au'ra treatment

[distant sonnet]

Ehh. They're hardly femboys. But its a build we didn't have already. There are already a ton of muscular dudes. If you want au'ra but with bunny ears there are scaleless mods already~

[open verge]

Disgusting

[supple kite]

Im honestly just happy to get to play it

[open verge]

I’m not gonna play male viera so it doesn’t bother me that much

[lucid sedge]

I've been wanting to see them since I first played XII, glad we got them though

If it's good enough for Matsuno, it's good enough for me

[distant sonnet]

Mmhmm.

[obsidian pagoda]

Now just to see if they're shorter than the female or not. I hope they are just to be reverse Au ra

[wet crown]

I wish they were tiny. Like...maybe a bit taller than female Au'Ra. But that won't happen.

[open verge]

They look to be shorter

[inner kite]

Why do people want bunny boys to be smaller?

[wet crown]

To have an opposite case of the usual size differences between males and females

[carmine basin]

Serious answer: what ehva said
But also https://twitter.com/h_ff_0811/status/1393569466340962307?s=20

あげ🥺 (@h_ff_0811)

https://t.co/KlwR5OdVtZ

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Twitter · May 15, 2021, 2:10 PM

[distant sonnet]

So people did comparison screenshots by standing races on the bridge where you see the male buns in the trailer.

If its accurate and doesn't change, they are for sure shorter than at least most bun fems.

[open verge]

https://twitter.com/emomim/status/1393975345003450371?s=21

み🦅ん (@emomim)

オスのがちっさいコンビ

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Twitter · May 16, 2021, 5:03 PM

[obsidian pagoda]

Inject that straight into my vein

[open verge]

Yea basically that’s what I want

[wet crown]

It'd just be ultra adorable to have a tiny bun boy protect his amazoness queen

[inner kite]

Make femhrothgar huge

[wet crown]

They won't be.

[open verge]

Hope they don’t mess up fem hrothgar

[obsidian pagoda]

Queens. There's like 1 bun boy per 4 female or something like that

[wet crown]

We already have a rough estimate of how tall they will be

[open verge]

https://twitter.com/kkron_m/status/1391479753048166403?s=21

ᴋᴀʀᴍᴀʜᴏ (@kkron_m)

진주 얻어서 다시 옴

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Twitter · May 9, 2021, 7:46 PM

[wet crown]

based on that StQ mural

[inner kite]

Ik but it would be fun if they were huge

[open verge]

They’ll be tall

[carmine basin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/742643125981413447/843527585908654120/Screenshot_2021-04-26-00-58-26-541_com.google.android.youtube.png

[wet crown]

Well, they'll be about as tall if not a bit taller than Elezen but I don't see them bigger than the male Hrothgars

[carmine basin]

Assuming this mural would be accurate to what fem hrothgar would look like, they're just a bit shorter than femroes

[open verge]

Their only short to emphasize on the queen loo

[wet crown]

look at the right side

[open verge]

It’s also just a mural lol

[wet crown]

that's a femroe or elezen right there

[inner kite]

Femroe i think (legs look thicker)

[open verge]

That’s fine with me I just want to look cute

Kinda want them to have the bulky hrothgar build but they won’t

[obsidian pagoda]

Gotta be femroe cause wasn't Misija's ancestor a handmaiden or something?

[untold gull]

They want twinks, not buffed bois is why. A bit yikes imo but to each their own

[wet crown]

they'll be closer to panthers

[gaunt star]

Female Hrothgar will probably use the build for the queen that’s already in game. It would save the most resources

[open verge]

The queen is literally just a roe though

[gaunt star]

Her body isn’t

[gaunt star]

well they got nothing else to post

[wet crown]

the last Gunnhildr was a femroe

[lucid sedge]

probs sick fantasies of fem viera being more dominant

bc weebs are horny on main

[wet crown]

which was just a lazy excuse to keep femroth out of the picture

[gaunt star]

how dare they smh se

That, or they just couldn’t finish the head in time even though by that point it was clearly planned

[untold gull]

[wet crown]

well, then they'd have had to make Misija a femroth, too

[gaunt star]

Since they plan 2 years in advance they probably started working on them just after shb launch

[open verge]

Oh so she’s actually not supposed to be a female hrothgar

[untold gull]

That doesn't even make sense. Why make a body then not have time to make a head. That's stupid

[open verge]

They could have given them a mask or something lol

Hiding the roe face

[untold gull]

iirc they didn't have plans for the fem hroth and male viera from shb

[gaunt star]

Probably to get something with facial animations that work already without having to spend extra time

[untold gull]

But, horny ass playerbase won

[open verge]

Fem hrothgar please be goood

[gaunt star]

Also they prioritized male Viera so they probably ran out of time when they needed to make the queen, so they made the body and left the head for later

[open verge]

I want to race change into female hrothgar

I don’t think that’s how it works

[gaunt star]

or we can accept the last gunnhildr was a roe and move on

[untold gull]

I doubt it. It still doesn't make sense story wise

[open verge]

They didn’t run out of time this was a conscious decision they made

[gaunt star]

The lore was built around whatever resources they had at the time

[untold gull]

And i don't understand why they would run out of time make a head, that's not how modelling characters work

[gaunt star]

“Oh shit we won’t have time to make the head uhhh make her a femroe they’re gonna come at some point later”

[open verge]

[gaunt star]

The body is an edit of midlander base which is why it’s easier to make first

[untold gull]

A ridiculous notion imo, especially since it doesn't even make any sense whatsoever

[gaunt star]

https://tenor.com/view/soken-fan-fest-lahee-otamatone-hum-gif-21581907

All female builds are based off midlander, heads however are unique

[untold gull]

If that's the case, they definitely would've had time if they planned fem hroth from the very beginning

Because it's stupid to think they have a base model for a body and somehow not have time to model a head

[open verge]

It’s a conscious decision they made because they weren’t making female hrothgar lol

[gaunt star]

Well they could rush out a head but yoship could look at it and be like “actually they should look like X” and then be sent back to square 0

[obsidian pagoda]

If they made a head now then they'd have to go back later to replace it with whatever Femhroth is gonna end up. Also head/face is the hardest part of creating a new race as this is the part that is most viewed. There is a reason why they used Miqo model for 2.x Yugiri.

[open verge]

Your speaking out of your ass man

[gaunt star]

Remember if he don’t like it they end up redesigning it: see Lakshmi

[untold gull]

Besides, when it comes to new races, they go off a concept art not "just reuse that body model, stick a different head model and be done with it"

i'll take this time to remind people fem au'ra was thicc once

[gaunt star]

That’s how they make the races yeah

[obsidian pagoda]

Easier to remodel one unique mob than redefining a whole race

[untold gull]

I'm not gonna get through someone who thinks there's not enough time to make a head for a single character, am i

[gaunt star]

I kinda do wish we got snake goddess Lakshmi though that would have been cool

https://i.imgur.com/3X1HNa9.png i just wanted that face mask thing to exist

[open verge]

Same man same

[untold gull]

I WANTED THE WHOLE THING TO BE A THING

[open verge]

I will always hate fem au ra

[gaunt star]

i wish Xaela had that look tbh

[open verge]

They somehow picked the worst option out of all the concepts they had

[untold gull]

I love the tail on tbe concept art and the horns and scales. Not the patchwork that we got

[gaunt star]

i still like Au Ra but they could of done better

https://i.imgur.com/eDNCL9D.jpeg i hated this tbh xd

[untold gull]

I think they went with the easiest to model. And because people sucks and prefer petite ass shit characters.

[gaunt star]

Is the one on the right wearing glasses!!

[open verge]

They had all these cool designs and then ended up using the generic lizard girl

[untold gull]

[open verge]

If this happens to female hrothgar I’ll cry

[untold gull]

I second this

[obsidian pagoda]

Honestly they probably were not happy with whatever Femhroth design was at that stage and just decided against using it. This way they don't tie themselves to an existing model made midway through a race development.

[gaunt star]

If they claim to be “inspired” by fanart the most likely candidate is that female kimari artwork passed around everywhere

[untold gull]

Though with the male hrothgar, i'm pretty hopeful. First unique character that's not human at all

[gaunt star]

fem hrothgar will be tall and thin probably as in not bulky whatever ppl head canon

like the bozjan stuff

[obsidian pagoda]

The Female ronso was official concept art not a fanart

[gaunt star]

I’d rather they be slim and athletic than bulky

[untold gull]

Tall and thin...excuse my french but fuck that

YES, AMAZON FOR ONCE, GEEZ

[gaunt star]

but u got viera

[astral vigil]

👀

[obsidian pagoda]

I said last night what if they look like the Navi from Avatar

[gaunt star]

I ain’t seen avatar is that a waterbender or some shit

avatar

[open verge]

This one?

[gaunt star]

its some alien movie

Yes that’s the one 99% of people point to

[open verge]

I wouldn’t mind this but it needs leopard skin

[gaunt star]

I’d be ok with that

Hopefully they get horns though

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ep2sQuFUcAAF_jU?format=jpg&name=large

this is what u get

[open verge]

What does that even mean it’s just a mural

[untold gull]

I'm hoping so. But we probably would get a female ronso

[flint iron]

These femhorth look like they have mid life crisis

[gaunt star]

well they were at a crisis so

[untold gull]

Lmao

[gaunt star]

They’ll be somewhat shorter than roes (which is normal for Hrothgar) and slimish

[obsidian pagoda]

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VCNKcRWYUqo/UTqjUBADAnI/AAAAAAAAHA8/fLd-js2gAHs/s1600/navi_female_warrior_2560x1600.jpg

[gaunt star]

yeah chie probably

[balmy mesa]

So cougars, I presume?

[obsidian pagoda]

I want them stout. Well, stouter than femroes

[balmy mesa]

idk, their connection standard is outdated nowadays, usb-c now

[open verge]

I’d be fine with this just needs long hair

I also require leopard skin

[gaunt star]

https://tenor.com/view/yshtola-rhul-final-fantasy-final-fantasy-xiv-ff14-ffxiv-gif-15553902

I’m thinking Venat is going to use female Viera base with the long hair with the daisies in the back. Probably edited to fill the ear holes

[balmy mesa]

Venat is pretty much already in the artwork

More like a middle-aged Minfilia

[obsidian pagoda]

Yeah I hope she uses the Viera skeleton as base

How is that artwork middle-aged? She looks in her 20s/30s to me

[gaunt star]

She looking like face 2 Veena

[teal geyser]

To be fair I'm sure life expectancy makes that middle-aged

[gaunt star]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/745869774877229096/843298367269240882/yoshimoogledance.gif

well shes a primal so it doesnt matter

[obsidian pagoda]

Now I'm curious what the life expectancy is, considering they have literal magic to cure people

[gaunt star]

like how it saved haurcherfant?

[obsidian pagoda]

If you have fatal wound you will die but anything less you can cure

Less dying by tetanus kinda deal

[teal geyser]

I mean, that's assuming you can find an actual healer. Probably harder than you think

[karmic drum]

Before Zenos there was Gosetsu representing SAM, so in theory this is the first time a bad guy it the "flagship of a job".... I think?

[gaunt star]

well thats not the case even with ffxiv

[warm bone]

is Zenos really reaper job confirmed?

[gaunt star]

yes

[warm bone]

[karmic drum]

he's got the Garlean variant of the job, but yes

[teal geyser]

as much as he was a samurai in SB anyway

[warm bone]

ah fair enough

[rough kestrel]

Yeah Koji does say "He has the Job & Weapon"

Which is a important distinction from "Well he uses the weapon

[obsidian pagoda]

True, but in the olden days IRL life expectancy was low because infant mortality was higher so it brought the average down instead of people not reaching old age

[karmic drum]

I wonder if Fandangodaniel will be his "voidsent avatar"

[gaunt star]

fandaniel is an ascian not a voidsent

[teal geyser]

Yeah and in this game you also got a fuck ton of monsters that will straight up just kill you

[open verge]

Probably won’t have an avatar

[warm bone]

he was using a katana in the SB trailer but it was more of a throwaway thing than zenos samurai confirmed.

interesting

[gaunt star]

well yoshi p said it himself its zenos who got the new job

[rough kestrel]

His avatar will probably be whichever Elder primal he absorbs.

[teal geyser]

?

[obsidian pagoda]

Hah, touche

[open verge]

Zenos wasn’t in sb trailer

[gaunt star]

Zenos was a custom samurai

[soft maple]

So I was checking the footage of the place inside the moon

[gaunt star]

but he wasnt on the trailer

[warm bone]

oh derp. the guy wearing his body. i derp

[teal geyser]

That wasn't SB either, that was ShB

[gaunt star]

elidibus xd

[warm bone]

yea

i did the Sb = shadowbringer thingy again

[soft maple]

And I noticed something that you guys might've noticed but I was shocked (kinda) to see

[rough kestrel]

It is kind of funny to me, the final boss is never in the CG trailers, have you guys noticed that

[open verge]

Concepts galore

[gaunt star]

the amaurotian architecture? xd

[soft maple]

That chair and table is NORMAL SIZED

[gaunt star]

well the ascians are using human bodies

[rough kestrel]

Normal sized compared to who/what? You don't know what the scale of that room is.

[teal geyser]

Eh it's hard to tell without an actual standard to judge it by. I wasn't really sure if it's normal or ancient sized

[soft maple]

Are the ascians using this, though? If they had this, then why would they use the darkness room

[open verge]

There’s life on the moon

[gaunt star]

because it was their conference room

[pastel coyote]

Well now that we know that allagan are really everywhere, want to bet that sharlayan was founded by allagan survivor ?

[obsidian pagoda]

The door is enormous though, how do we know the tables are human sized?

[gaunt star]

sharlayan was founded by fandaniel just w8

[teal geyser]

My assumption is that somehow this place was either warded off from them or the Ascians just never found it for some reason

[soft maple]

Yeah I think so too

[gaunt star]

maybe Venat was chilling there

[teal geyser]

That is also my assumption, that or someone adjacent to Venat

[inner kite]

On the moon lol?

[rough kestrel]

Elidibus literally hangs out on the moon, I refuse to believe that it was never not just off screen while he stood on the moon with Ardbert.

[gaunt star]

yes?

[teal geyser]

Everyone is from the moon nowadays

[wary perch]

The whole building is ancient desgin though.
I doubt ascians don't know about it

[gaunt star]

Venat is immortal anyway

[teal geyser]

But again, that begs the question of "why the fuck did they never use it smh"

[obsidian pagoda]

I would say Elidibus is more likely to be the owner of this place than Venat

[inner kite]

Moon bunnies keep the place

[pastel coyote]

Btw we did see some moon underground, strangely what i see remind me of the tempest when we go underground too

[wary perch]

Maybe it's because the game never show it us?

[rough kestrel]

That place probably has no present function while the world is sundered/Zodiark is asleep, are the ascians gonna do research about random concepts while lamenting the loss of their brothers?

That place was probably merely a reminder of what they were fighting for

[obsidian pagoda]

To be honest it reminds me more of the bottom floor in Dzemael Darkhold with the crystals everywhere

[heady spear]

I think they want to test reviving animals/plants etc, on the different biomes dungeon

[inner kite]

That place looks like memory library like anamnesis

[rough kestrel]

But I bet the azem stone will unlock something about it that Emet left

[teal geyser]

gfdi, delete stone plz

[heady spear]

While lamenting their loss

[gaunt star]

no

[regal lantern]

Moon is going to be another realm like First was in 5.0, main cast exclusive, if not WoL exclusive and will not be important to story in the future after the expansion

[gaunt star]

isnt the Moon the same across all shards?

[regal lantern]

Each shard has it's own Moon, hence "sundering Zodiark"

[teal geyser]

Nah it'd be different. Zodiark got sundered remember and he's in the moon

[gaunt star]

right right

[obsidian pagoda]

No, the shard border includes the moon

[gaunt star]

anyway stan venat

[inner kite]

Venat sus

[gaunt star]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/742643125981413447/843213021648257084/FINAL_FANTASY_XIV_Shtola.gif

[obsidian pagoda]

That staff slam is such a power move

[teal geyser]

See that'd be cool and all if the moon was WoL only but then I'd ask how the obvious moon dungeon would allo-FUCK TRUSTS ARE AZEM CRYSTALLED

[gaunt star]

yeee

just what ud expect from best miqote

[inner kite]

nobody at sharlayan gives a f tho

[gaunt star]

they will, thats the whole point

[obsidian pagoda]

I can see old Master Matoya using the same move when the Forum used to pester her

[balmy mesa]

Think of the ERP opportunities

[soft maple]

Okay, I found that scale for that room

[obsidian pagoda]

This is final. Bang

[gaunt star]

cant wait for people to mod Venat over the reaper avatar

[teal geyser]

Of...Azem crystal summoning someone on your dick? What?

[soft maple]

And I will say that I am wrong. But, I do agree with venat possibly being there

[balmy mesa]

Koji would be the first mod tho

[inner kite]

Venat going to moon to gloat at zodiark

[gaunt star]

venat drinking tea with zodiark

[teal geyser]

Just keeping tabs

[balmy mesa]

Discord pls.

[obsidian pagoda]

Turns out Hydaelyn and Zodiark had actually made up since the sundering and are now having tea and biscuits together while their tempered minions all still fighting.

[gaunt star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-nc3qp-AYw&t someone looped the music playing over sharlayan and its just..so good

[obsidian pagoda]

I've been playing the trailer on repeat cause the song is just so amazing

[regal lantern]

Ik I will be singled out here, I am a RPer and I really want content my adventurer can be a part of too.
Secondly I think FFXIV has, for a long time, been a game about a God (us) killing bunch of other wannabe gods. I signed up to an MMO by FF for experiencing adventurer life, exploring and killing and being an adventurer. But each moment in this game passes with the fate of the world constantly being in peril, resting on my shoulders and between patches, it's "just waiting for things to go shit..." like now

[gaunt star]

but still has the damn graha talking smh

[soft maple]

That song is too good, I refuse to spoil it by having it loop

[gaunt star]

we are not gods

we are the gifted strong silent type

[balmy mesa]

Strong neck muscles.

[orchid dagger]

who got the pre-order info?

[soft maple]

I said it once, I'll say it again. The Endwalker trailer made the cat peeps look WEIRD

[gaunt star]

also as grahas future shown we died from a silly willy poison so

[distant sonnet]

I need a full song of the Stormblood Buttrock

[regal lantern]

Ordered 2 days ago, told me the digital game is out of stock, and still don't have any email or news

[gaunt star]

Graha looked like shit in the trailer ngl

i pre ordered and paid straight away

[distant sonnet]

Yeah Graha's face was... hmm

[balmy mesa]

Preorder info?

[obsidian pagoda]

In game Y'shtola > CGI Y'shtola :👀

[soft maple]

We shall riot for the day

[foggy coyote]

I 200% agree. Y'shtola looks all pasty and shit and her hair seems almost... greasy? And G'raha looks like an Asian cosplaying as G'raha, lmao.

[gaunt star]

Graha looks like a kpop star

[soft maple]

LMAO

[inner kite]

G'raha had a botched nose surgery

[orchid dagger]

I mean what does it come for digital collector's edition?

[soft maple]

Yeah, I'll give you that for sure

[obsidian pagoda]

They just look too smooth and slim. I want my chubby cheek Shtola

[gaunt star]

digital collectors get death scythe glamour, arion mount and a minion

[balmy mesa]

preorder should come immediately, the other stuff will come closer to EW

[soft maple]

Yeah, thankfully it doesn't ruin the trailer.

[balmy mesa]

So you should get the earrings right away

[gaunt star]

also that stormblood song was so good oof

[obsidian pagoda]

And her hair is fuller in game. We had comparison debate before and the biggest difference are hair volume, nose and cheeks

[regal lantern]

I'm just scared... cause idk if I'll get it, if i should buy again what... idk anything

[gaunt star]

just relog if u didnt get the pre order items

[foggy coyote]

And both Y'shtola and Fourchelnaut are a couple shades too light skintone-wise, too.

[orchid dagger]

So 2 minion, mount, weapon glam, ear item and EA?

I just wanna confirmed before i buy

[gaunt star]

yes

[wheat agate]

imagine going to fight hydaelyn and she just takes the form of minfilia as just a last screw you

[gaunt star]

pre order gets u 1 minion, earring, early access
digital deluxe gets u minion, mount, scythe glam

[orchid dagger]

Okie thanks

[gaunt star]

https://tenor.com/view/nagatoro-ijiranaide-nagatoro-san-smirk-grin-stare-gif-20015504

[gloomy shale]

How big will the reaper scythes be?

[untold gull]

Honestly, i think that's really Venat, separating from Hydaelyn in the same manner elidibus did. Remember that summoning primals (or almost summong gods in louisoix's case) wounds Hydaelyn so this mass summoning of lunar primal made it worse and now venat needs help

[teal geyser]

STORM OF BLOOD
BORN FROM BLOOD
OF OUR FALLEN BROTHERS

TIME STOOD STILL
OATHS FULFILLED
NOW WE YEARN FOR FREEDOOOOM

BORN IN BLOOD
STAINED IN RED
BOUND BY BLOOD
CONQUERORS FELLED (?)
COUNTLESS DEEDS
HAND IN HAND
TOWARDS THE LIGHT
FORGE AHEAD
FORWARD

God so good

[soft maple]

It's so powerful of a part

[distant sonnet]

Indeed. Its a jam, for sure.

[gaunt star]

when that theme kicked in just damn

[obsidian pagoda]

Stormblood theme is so banging

[gaunt star]

Soken and team going ham

[soft maple]

And as someone who didn't like stormblood all that much, it really speaks when I say that they made the SB theme powerful in END

[obsidian pagoda]

When Freedom lines up with the elevator scene chef's kiss

[soft maple]

You want that to be ruined? Watch asmongold react to it

[gaunt star]

do keep in mind asmongold liked what he saw for the most part xd

his community on the other hand

[soft maple]

"he looks like a WEEBY NAZGUL"

Meanwhile at the end of the trailer "THAT ARMOR LOOKS SO COOL"

[teal geyser]

Speaking of people not liking that part. Any criticisms regarding it being jarring is pretty fair. It's definitely the most jarring musical cut?

[pastel coyote]

You do the smartass with SB, but did you translate the HW part ?

[teal geyser]

Oh my God I tried that and it was soo hard

[gaunt star]

i was too focused on Vrtra to understand HWs lyrics

[soft maple]

There were lyrics?

[soft gyro]

yes

[gaunt star]

also that huge ass stardiver like bruh when can i do that yoshi p

[pastel coyote]

[teal geyser]

I can't make out what the dragonspeak being said is so I tried to find a lyrics video where someone attempted it and found one but then going through it...the sentence structure looks all wrong and I couldn't rationalise it and I'm not sure if it was the person just trying to flesh out the bits they couldn't make out with shit that sounds right

[soft maple]

Did you guys notice the dancer statue fall down in the trailer?

[soft gyro]

also in the end, "THEY FIGHT ON THE MOON???"

[teal geyser]

yes

[obsidian pagoda]

The HW part is harder cause there's Emet talking then Estinien has lines too

[rough kestrel]

I'm pretty sure the HW/SB themes blending in are jarring on purpose and arent like one full song, kind of like how SHB theme goes into Eternal Wind

[untold gull]

Some other WoW player reacted to it too then he said he hated the whole thing. And dude couldn't figure out how a fountain fucking works and complained about th3 sharlayan fountain

[soft maple]

"WE'RE GOING TO THE MOON BOOOOOYYYYYSSSSS"

[flint iron]

All these guy asking for leopard skin remind me of cheetah

[gaunt star]

sodapoppin? lol hes trash

[pastel coyote]

magic

[teal geyser]

Oh I heard about that fountain thing

[gaunt star]

he wondered how the statue had endless water, but he doesnt ask the same question on the more jarring fountains of WoW

[untold gull]

As soon as he went off about the fountain i'm just, yeah nah, not worth my timr

[rough kestrel]

Sodapoppin seems like a broken dude, Asmon atleast explained that he likes part of XIV but doesnt feel he can get past the parts he doesnt like about its aesthetic.

Which is fair enough

[pastel coyote]

Did we switch to ff14 vs wow again ? Ok first move then: they have more furry than us.

[gaunt star]

its ok Jesse Cox atleast loves XIV

[teal geyser]

The answer might just be water crystals but it also could just easily have been a crazy good pump system

[flint iron]

Asmon is a cool guy his fan on the other yand though

[rough kestrel]

I hate parts of it too, I'm just use to it, just as the WoW players are use to their furry races

[soft maple]

Imagine seeing a trailer with a man on the moon, fucking dragons, outright destruction, cool as pew pew mage...

And tripping out when you see a fountain

[untold gull]

Yeah, i don't get that comment tbh. Why they calling our game furries when they have actual furries

[wheat agate]

yeah a lot of wow streamers are jsut straight up outrage merchants

[soft gyro]

omg pumps? how does that work???

[gaunt star]

considering its sharlayan probably both lmao

[untold gull]

We literally only have one furry and the rest are anthros

[soft gyro]

also, anybody using watercooled pc's make sure yall pumps are working

[rough kestrel]

You guys know its not about the fountain really and more about the fact it's something different people push them into watching.

[flint iron]

Noctua fan is still the best

[somber storm]

Tfw Asmon acknowledges that New World is gonna be riddled with microtransactions

[soft gyro]

i got the nh-d15 chromax.black

[gaunt star]

after he saw the recent WoW monetizations and then the comments from New World? omegalul

[soft maple]

One thing that was shown in the tales of the shadow was how the ancients came up with the theory of using familiars of certain elements to allow them easier function when it comes to certain elemental things. And if sharlayan truly are taking lessons from the ancients and adapting them, there might be a WHOLE ASS water spirit under the fountain.

Or it's just a normal effing fountain lol

[gaunt star]

its just a fountain ok

i just wanna see it get destroyed tho

[soft maple]

That's how you'd have to be to overemphasize a fountain lol

[gaunt star]

anyway who wants to laugh?

[soft maple]

THE ARCHIVES ARE LOCKED, THAT MEANS THOSE BOOKS ARE DIRECTLY FROM THE ANCIENTS

[untold gull]

[obsidian pagoda]

Bro if they can make skyscrapers using essentially medieval tools, adding some water pipes in them is not beyond the logic

[gaunt star]

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/436764-Forced-to-preorder-early-because-of-Wind-up-Palom

[teal geyser]

You know, Pash had a crazy theory about that bit

[gaunt star]

'forced to pre order'

[soft maple]

LOL

[soft maple]

Oh?

[untold gull]

YES THAT'S MY REACTION TOO. IT WAS SO RUDE THEY SEPARATED THE TWINS!!!

[obsidian pagoda]

Y'all just falling into their marketing tactic

[gaunt star]

i mean u could always pre order shortly b4 early access, so i dont see why hes butthurt he pre ordered early

[teal geyser]

So you remember the symbol you see on various Sharlayan boys and girls from time to time like on G'raha's shoulder that we don't know what it means?

[untold gull]

I haven't even used wind up palom for the fact that i need porom on my minion list with him

[gaunt star]

also thats the same person that couldnt tell when winter starts and fall ends

[soft maple]

Hmmm

[teal geyser]

Bit hard to see when Pash draws over it but there are markings that do kinda make out the eye bit

[flint iron]

Eye of sauron

[pastel coyote]

Everyone know that winter start when we have snow

[soft maple]

And the curve right beside it

What's the symbol of sharlayan?

[gaunt star]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-slap-anime-mad-student-gif-17423278

[teal geyser]

Shell

[untold gull]

Nautilus shell

[gaunt star]

"Definitely, I feel forced to preorder early just to get the exclusive rewards and the EXP boosting earring and to make sure I get both minions. But I also wanted to wait for reviews to come out so I don't accidentally buy a bad expansion." FFXIV bad expansion? nani

[untold gull]

buy a bad expansion
Right...

[soft maple]

Jesus Christ, can anyone fluently read eorzean?

[wind bough]

I never realised that the name is actually written on the flag

[teal geyser]

But I thought Stormblood sucked /s

[wary perch]

Might as well stop the sub if it's bad expansion lol

[wind bough]

Yeah you get used to it

[gaunt star]

stormblood didnt suck

[teal geyser]

It took me stupidly long to realise too frankly

[obsidian pagoda]

Still don't know what that book connects to the logo yet. I do hope it actually gets explained in EW so we can stop arguing about it lol

[soft maple]

OH IT SAYS SHARLAYAN? Jesus frick

[teal geyser]

Sometimes I can and sometimes I get fucked up, generally if you remember the more common letters you can just infer the rest

[flint iron]

It look really similar to arab word

[gloomy shale]

Is there a predominant race in Sharlayan?

[obsidian pagoda]

At least they're similar enough in shape to Latin that you can guess the majority of it

[flint iron]

Definitely elezen

[obsidian pagoda]

Elezen and Roes

[soft maple]

square when coming up with the alphabet

"ALRIGHT EVERYONE, Take a hit out of this bong and try to write out the ABCs as best as you can. The most fucked up/unrecognizable wins."

[teal geyser]

They don't publish racial statics for equality sake but yeah prob Elezen and Hyur followed by roe?

[gloomy shale]

So would you say Sages are mostly Elezen?

[wind bough]

Sharlayan does not release census demographics

But all the races are represented there

(Hrothgar and Viera unknown)

[teal geyser]

Where dem Garlean Sharlayans at

[obsidian pagoda]

Idk which is worse, this or the Al Bhed cipher

[gloomy shale]

Who do you think is going to be the Sage trainer?

[wind bough]

Some guy

[teal geyser]

or woman let's not assume

[flint iron]

Al bhed actually is really easy to guess

[gloomy shale]

Al bheds are in Endwalker?

[teal geyser]

Oh my God Al Bheds should be in Meracydia

[gloomy shale]

make it happens Yoshi P

[soft maple]

The al bhed go against the teachings of Zodiark

[obsidian pagoda]

One of the major NPC should be called Brother

[gloomy shale]

It would make sense to since they are pulling some stuff from FF X for this expansion right?

[teal geyser]

Okay but FFX version not FFX-2

[soft maple]

Well anima is some sort of matriarchal figure

[teal geyser]

What, what you said about Endwalker and Al Bhed? Nah

[teal geyser]

This is a weird statement to think about and it's kinda funny imagining saying that to some random person

[inner kite]

Eli's mom

[soft maple]

Lmao

[gaunt star]

anima is zenos's mom

[wheat agate]

the reason why y'shtola doesnt look at the moon in the trailer is because she cant see shit in the sky as shown by the ending cutscene from qitana ravel where she has to have urianger describe the night sky to her

[gaunt star]

[teal geyser]

Motherfully figure

[gloomy shale]

Is Anima only portrayed in FF X or was there another title?

[teal geyser]

Just X

[obsidian pagoda]

Only FFX

[inner kite]

Thicc mom

[gaunt star]

look at that sexy figure /s

[wheat agate]

cant believe theres only been 5 final fantasy games in the past 20 years

[gloomy shale]

Wait was Seymour Anima I can't remember

[obsidian pagoda]

Music better be remix of Hymn of the Fayth

[teal geyser]

Anima was Seymour's mother basically

[soft maple]

Anima is Seymour's mom

[gloomy shale]

oh yeah

[soft maple]

At the end of your pilgrimage, you gotta turn your guardian into a fayth

That was Seymour's mother, and she turned into anima

[teal geyser]

I thought she turned into anima when Seymour was still a child to protect him though

[flint iron]

When you recruit anima it show child seymour

[soft maple]

Nah, they've gotten to the place. And she had to convince Seymour that this was not a wrong thing to do

You can see little Seymour crying...I think

[obsidian pagoda]

IIRC she became a summon so Seymour could fight Sin, but he didn't want to do that and lose her so he sealed her in Baaj temple instead

[soft maple]

She wanted Seymour to fight sin so that he could be regarded as a hero to a the guado

[flint iron]

He still can summon her though

[pastel coyote]

You're mad because you don't have snow https://buffy.mlpforums.com/monthly_2018_12/0C8D9814-156F-442B-8035-AF9C54BE9699.gif.ae561989cb032441f5b7fddf3f8de5f0.gif

[obsidian pagoda]

Sealed as in her Fayth was linked there like Ifrit, Shiva etc

[soft maple]

The reason why she wanted him to be a hero was that the guado didn't like him as much because his human, thus he was half human

Just a mother who wanted her child to live happy Inna cruel world

[obsidian pagoda]

She was also sickly or something I remember. Anyway being a child he really didn't want to lose his mum so he hid with her for ages.

[inner kite]

It's kinda interesting anima's ultimate attack is oblivion

[soft maple]

The interesting concept is the duality of it. The bottom part of Anima is pure maternal fury

[flint iron]

I can't wait to see how they use that concept in the raid

[soft maple]

If it's in a raid, then anima is most likely the guardian Force of a ancient child

Or Fayth of an ancient child

[flint iron]

So same kind as pixie then

[soft maple]

The same kind as Quetzalcoatl in akadaemia anyder

That reminds me

[inner kite]

Fayth and quatzalcoatl arent the same thing tho

[flint iron]

But then it need energy to manifest, quez have an ancient sarcrifire, the flame demon have an erupt volcano to fuel

[soft maple]

I know, I mean it could be either or

the flame demon? You mean ifrit or the familiar that....wizard person uses to fight in the elf castle dungeon

[gaunt star]

i know what snow is, but i dont really want it

[somber storm]

Get it

[flint iron]

The one that azem use to save an island because she want to eat some grape

[steep coral]

Anima is my favorite aeon c:

[teal geyser]

Cal will remember that

[soft maple]

Ifrit, then

[somber storm]

Azem stealing Lahabrea's GF

[wind bough]

Ifrita

[soft maple]

IFRIT

[wind bough]

[soft maple]

[gaunt star]

look i live near the sea, it almost never snows xd

[subtle pasture]

Nooo don’t use my shitty ms paint draw over

But oh I didn’t notice the shap around it also resembles the brackets around the eye too

[somber storm]

Imagine if that eye was actually supposed to be Azem's mask

[distant sonnet]

Ifrita and Ifrit are presumably fairly different.

[soft maple]

Yeah, I noticed that too!

[distant sonnet]

Because ( if Zodiark was the first primal ) Ifrita was not a primal.

[soft maple]

Ehhhhhhhh...I wouldn't use THAT logic to justify what ifrita is.

[pastel coyote]

Too bad garlemald is full of snow.

[distant sonnet]

Also not summoned in a divine interpretation by a bunch of lizard folk.

[wind bough]

Ifrita was just creation magic

[subtle pasture]

Yeah, Ifrita was a concept for an elemental spirit of spirit, Just Different™️ from a primal

[gaunt star]

well virtual snow cant hurt the rl fields

[wind bough]

Glass have you got that book screenshot without the drawing on it?

[distant sonnet]

Azem: Hey Lahabread good work with the horned fire monster.
Lahabrea: ... is that what you thought of when I wrote "hot and horny"? Ooookay..

[subtle pasture]

Not on hand but here's the first one I took in the original convo Cal pulled the painted one from:

[distant sonnet]

Wonder if the red eye has any importance. Considering his eyes. Probably not.

[wind bough]

His red eyes are due to his Allagan blood transfusion heritage

[subtle pasture]

it starts going out of focus after that shot though, hence the paintjob

[distant sonnet]

Exactly.

[subtle pasture]

ugh there's a frame with a better shot of the other cover but I'm bad at doin' it on YT

got it

[obsidian pagoda]

. and , moves the frame one by one

[subtle pasture]

o TIL, is there a shortcut for making the play bar go away

[wind bough]

There is? 👀

[steep coral]

You know...are elezen considered guado?, they're almost tree folk without the overly veins,long nails and crazy tree hair

[wind bough]

Elezen... are considered Elezen

[steep coral]

Hmm yeah I figured, so possible guano race after femhroth?

Guano lmao

[viscid monolith]

Not all Elezen are tree folk either. Some are French. Either way they all suck.

[wind bough]

Yoshida has expressed that there will likely be no new races

[subtle pasture]

now that I've properly discovered frame-by-frame,

[distant sonnet]

We are absolutely never getting another race after Femhroth, never again.

[teal geyser]

I hate that I didn't know this

[steep coral]

Dayum nale viera and gemhroth did it that badly huh?

[wind bough]

Amazing

[obsidian pagoda]

I don't think there's a Hide UI keybind, soz

[distant sonnet]

Fembun and malehroth didn't even go well.

[subtle pasture]

there's people in the shire attire in the flyby of the aetheryte, such neat detail

[teal geyser]

Is that person in the left middle wearing 1.0 gear?

[exotic copper]

shire attire

[obsidian pagoda]

It's the best for taking screenshot to slam dunk prove a point

[steep coral]

Malehroth wouldve been a first pick class for me, if only they weren't a male roe body clone type and more kimhari like

[distant sonnet]

Hornless, hornless.

[steep coral]

Howl alone, howl alone

[subtle pasture]

yeah I can make out some various leveling sets,

[exotic copper]

if they weren't hunched

[steep coral]

Yeah that too

[obsidian pagoda]

They probs just reuse a bunch of models that they've made for past cutscenes

[subtle pasture]

--those girls are twins aren't they

[teal geyser]

You know I've been thinking for a while since they said Sharlayan was originally planned to be a 1.0 starter city. I wonder how fleshed out they were in terms of character ideas and stuff

[steep coral]

It does make work and designing alot easier

[subtle pasture]

actually there's a lot of clones in this shot isn't it

[obsidian pagoda]

LMAO I just realised yes there's lots of clones

[subtle pasture]

I LOOKED TOO CLOSELY AHHHH

[teal geyser]

Pretty sure ShB Crystarium had the same issue

Also had a Miqo'te with no tail

[exotic copper]

never stare too hard at key frames

[flint iron]

A nation hell bending on keeping tradition

[subtle pasture]

typical animation stuff anyways, this only goes by in a few frames after all

[flint iron]

So vatican ?

[distant sonnet]

Also almost every other nation in human history.

Tradition is hard to throw off for a reason.

[exotic copper]

exactly

[obsidian pagoda]

The only one that changed recently prior to 1.0 was Limsa with the whole outlawing Piracy thing. And of course we literally killed the leader of Ishgard and installed his infinitely more shaggable son as leader

[teal geyser]

Seriously where is her Miqo'te tail?

[inner kite]

She has mutation

Bob miqo

[teal geyser]

WHERE

[viscid monolith]

Behind her

[obsidian pagoda]

Ask G'raha where he hid his, probably the same place

[wind bough]

Obscured by her leg don’t worry bout it

[exotic copper]

she has it tucked up under the cloak

[teal geyser]

BUT ITS NOT

[viscid monolith]

Got tired of people pulling on it

[wind bough]

She lost it in battle, stop staring

[inner kite]

https://tenor.com/view/pajo-monaghan-bobcat-pajo-jump-snow-gif-15071652

[subtle pasture]

seriously the disappearing roe is a handsome Sea Wolf

[viscid monolith]

Cat thinks it's a bunny

[wind bough]

What happens with the Roe?

[inner kite]

Teleported

[obsidian pagoda]

He disappeared in the next scene I think

[kind lark]

Went to sea ofc

[subtle pasture]

he's the one that disappears when it pans up and shows the whole room

[exotic copper]

there you go

[viscid monolith]

The Roe is missing from the wide shot

[teal geyser]

At least she has one

[obsidian pagoda]

Fuck I love that transition where G'raha and Forchenault's shoulders are lined up when the camera spins

[teal geyser]

SE needs to step up their game

[wind bough]

He left in disgust

[kind lark]

Add more teleporting Roes

[viscid monolith]

Between the Roe disappearing and Yshtola being blind I think there was just miscommunication between people somewhere.

[exotic copper]

/s

[clever flume]

OR they just did shit that looked cool

[subtle pasture]

and no that's not him sliding over, you can compare other roegadyn in the shot

[clever flume]

even if it didn't make sense when you bother to stop and think about it

[teal geyser]

Speaking of the Forum, the idea that they all wear face veils I guess to just obscure their faces for...ahem "fairness" feels super threatening

[inner kite]

They are feeling shy

[viscid monolith]

What does it have to do with fairness?

[subtle pasture]

though I guess I haven't considered if the room is really vertical and spiral upwards

[exotic copper]

hey wait, why couldn't it be the other set of stairs

[obsidian pagoda]

And not at all similar to Ancient masks?

[subtle pasture]

the stairs lend to that, -- it's the angle to Fourchenalt,

[teal geyser]

freaky

[subtle pasture]

and the lamp right by the view of the stairs, to Fourche, so on

[pastel coyote]

If only they have take a different angle and put Forchenault farther we could have think Y'Shtola was near the entrance

[exotic copper]

also the guys up top are closer to camera so are bigger

[teal geyser]

Idk, if they are going to be assholes and no do racial censuses for equality reasons then they might do this for some pompous ass explanation

[viscid monolith]

No it definitely spirals downward

[subtle pasture]

yeah, true, then it is still weird how much that guy slides away from the lamp

[exotic copper]

those aren't even different sized models, just one is closer to the camera

[obsidian pagoda]

Imagine the yelling they need to do if the dude at the top wants to speak to the ones at the bottom and vice versa

[distant sonnet]

I think that may be the point, though. Heh

[exotic copper]

The yelling is probably happening anyway, have you ever listened in on your lawmakers?

[subtle pasture]

this elezen member also gets a shot in the roe-stairs angle

huge ass ears,

[viscid monolith]

Don't Br*tish lawmakers literally start fist fighting?

[distant sonnet]

There are a lot of freakin Elezen in the cinematic.

[obsidian pagoda]

Yeah they yell heaps on parliament

[exotic copper]

i haven't seen fist fights, but lots of yelling and name calling

[teal geyser]

Generally no but they do uh, make quite the remarks and jeering and stuff

I recall one person taking the ceremonial mace and trying to walk out with it once

[obsidian pagoda]

Just google Taiwanese Parliament fights, they go full brawls in there

[subtle pasture]

that elezen in the back of the frame would beeeeee

[teal geyser]

Yes there is a mace for some reason

[viscid monolith]

I'd do it too

[subtle pasture]

this member? or one to the left or right

[viscid monolith]

It's a fucking mace. Put it over your fireplace and make up stories about it.

[subtle pasture]

yes I am overanalyzing the angles and lines of sight in this shot

[obsidian pagoda]

Forchenault is super fit cause he gotta walk miles just to get to his bloody desk every morning

[subtle pasture]

Y'shtola's blind ass walked all the way in, and then walked straight out away from him into those desks.

[flint iron]

Don't worry most people in this room probably not gonna make it to the end of ew 🤣

[exotic copper]

ah yes, put the huge golden trophy over my fireplace, no one will ever know

[kind lark]

I have one of those in my living room.

[teal geyser]

Trying to get Sharlayans to feel bad and join

[subtle pasture]

Okay yeah, this shot tells the verticality of this room

[viscid monolith]

The axe is the perfect weapon. Should have been a ceremonial axe.

[subtle pasture]

...wow that goes up high.

[exotic copper]

my poor blind wife

[flint iron]

Nah she gonna use aether manipulation to get to the door

[distant sonnet]

But.. his desk is wrong there, too

That puts his back directly to stairs?

[gaunt star]

She actually left her leylines at the top of the stairs so she can BTL back

[exotic copper]

directly to the second set of stairs

[obsidian pagoda]

No that's the stairs one level up

[gaunt star]

There's a lot fo stairs

[obsidian pagoda]

Not the very bottom one

[viscid monolith]

Nah the next set of stairs are even with the last set

[exotic copper]

we're seeing yshtolas view looking up at a 7 ft tall dude, those stairs would be unclimbable if they were that high at ground level

[distant sonnet]

They certainly don't look one level up.

[viscid monolith]

Man this scene is all fucked up

[distant sonnet]

Considering thats handrails.

[viscid monolith]

Who has the full wide view

[subtle pasture]

The full top-down of the chamber?

[viscid monolith]

Ya

[exotic copper]

stairs in the correct-ish spot for us to see it behind him at that weird angle

[subtle pasture]

the main thing is I didn't take each level to like,

[viscid monolith]

Oh I see now

[subtle pasture]

actually be a floor apart from each other, which the shots of Shtola speaking to him show

Like the chamber's seating is actually 3 floors tall, thought it was more like, 1 and a half

[teal geyser]

How fucking big is Sharlayan that they need that many representatives?

[exotic copper]

How many representatives do you have on a local level?

[still sparrow]

So do we have news on when the new content is out?

[subtle pasture]

well we know the Forum's got 100 members,

[exotic copper]

My state has over 100 reps

[subtle pasture]

The Forum was formed with a 100 seats, and I don't think it's been changed since

...for better or worse on that front

[teal geyser]

I assume your state has more people than Sharlayan does

[exotic copper]

whats the sharlayan population estimate?

[teal geyser]

I think it's fair to say it's the most populated of the cities since it hasn't been involved in war, got out of the calamity, etc etc but...ehhhhhh

[midnight nymph]

i don’t think a population estimate has ever been noted

[exotic copper]

my state has 10 million residents and 110 seats, vermont has 623,000 and has 150

[tough fern]

I expect Sharlayan to be like stepping into another world. A beautiful Utopia where all is right.

While the world burns outside of it

[teal geyser]

Going to be some Ba Sing Se shit

[inner kite]

They have doom bunker

[exotic copper]

I think its pretty reasonable for sharlayan to have 100 seats, academia loves process

[teal geyser]

Bibliothecs going to go around booking anyone causing trouble or attempt to change anything

[tough fern]

Trailer really does give off that vibe too

Everything is burning and then.......there's the splendor of Sharlayan, completely untouched

[teal geyser]

There is no war in Sharlayan

[exotic copper]

I work for a university and we gather all 35 employees in my department on a fairly regular basis just to say to eachother what is being worked on

[inner kite]

There is no war in sharlayan until fanny comes along

[tough fern]

It's like the Crystarium put into overdrive

[midnight nymph]

i wonder where exactly labyrinthos is in

[flint iron]

Nah they gonna blame the wol that have bring doom to their door

[tough fern]

Ofc i'm sure Sharlayan will be attacked

[gaunt star]

What do you mean?
Expac is November 23rd, early access is 19th
And next patch is 25th of this month, aka, next Tuesday 🙂

[tough fern]

It's inevitable

[subtle pasture]

So this frame, hm...

[exotic copper]

hey wtf was this about

[subtle pasture]

It's the super quick flybys into the secret library G'raha's in,

[inner kite]

But first they'll give y'shtola 500 reasons why they wont be attacked

[kind lark]

They're more like Eulmore but self aware

[placid sail]

wouldn't surprise me if it turns out Sharlayan is built on top of Ancient ruins

[teal geyser]

11 for November. It's month number

[wind bough]

11th month

[tough fern]

11 meaning Nov is the 11th month

[subtle pasture]

the chain placement makes me think of Anima, tbh, but I'm sure that's just coincidence

[wind bough]

A common Japanese way of writing November

[gaunt star]

Month is November, the 11th month

[clever flume]

none of those have a date beyond the 5.55 one. the others are just indicating month

[exotic copper]

but they also wrote november under it lmao thats so confusing

[tough fern]

Yeah it is

But that's the way they do it

[inner kite]

Labyrinthos? If so I bet there is some monster trapped down there, anima or not

[gaunt star]

Look at the other ones, all state the month

[clever flume]

the bottom text is for english speakers :d

[subtle pasture]

It's when the camera quickly zooms through the big library, into a secluded chamber, into a sealed room that G'raha is reading about "the secrets of the star"

[exotic copper]

inb4 labyrinthos is a deep dungeon

[subtle pasture]

it's way abandoned, the shot of G'raha in the end has a stand covered in spiderwebs

[inner kite]

Forbidden chambers tend to be like that

[teal geyser]

There are so many places fit for deep dungeoning

[gaunt star]

Dunno why, but I reckon Labyrinthos is on the moon

[distant sonnet]

G'raha is aaaabsolutely fuckin around where he shouldn't be.

[torpid yoke]

would rather first have a Deep dungeon for ronka than sharlayan

[subtle pasture]

I also discovered I can safely play 1440p on my ethernet

[clever flume]

don't really see the need to build underground on the moon

[exotic copper]

or he's trying to save our lives and unravel some sort of mystery, like he has been doing since we met him

[gaunt star]

Not getting a deep dungeon for Shadowbringers

[subtle pasture]

This is Sharlayan, he's in a sealed off wing of the grand library or whatnot

[distant sonnet]

Yeah I'm not sure why either. Considering the sharlayan architecture and nautilus designs.

[subtle pasture]

the Bibliotheka? what's the Old Sharlayan superlibrary

[clever flume]

but then again, there was a end of days beast on the moon so i guess there is a reason

[torpid yoke]

never said we were

[distant sonnet]

I never said it wasn't for our benefit. But Sharlayan jerkasses might not want him in the forbidden sections. Heh

[gaunt star]

Ronka is on the first, so we wouldn’t