retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[bold condor]

Scythes will probably be available with the following:

• Shadowbringers questing/crafting.
• Shadowbringers duties.
• Shadowbringers trials.
• Augmented Scaevan Poetics set.
• Augmented Cryptlurker Poetics set.
• Palace of the Dead (Padjali/Kinna)
• Heaven-on-High (Empyrean)

[wanton steppe]

Just saw the vid about Soken, deeply respect. Doing the work while fighting cancer.

[junior crane]

Yeah pretty sure the only reason relics aren't retroactively put in is because of HOW much work those are to develop.

It's just a lot for one single weapon/set of skins

So it stands to reason the one-off ones are easier to sprinkle in

[woven escarp]

they only do it if someone takes the time to develop a new model, like if someone had a great idea for a titan scythe they'd add it

[turbid mortar]

I got my second covid vaccine and it put me in bed for like 2 days, i feel like such a baby

[wary perch]

The man is using the work to hold on to his life

[wooden dove]

I like to tank but I wanted XI DPS DRK. I've long gotten over it and I realize reaper is that now but like.. I dunno. I'm just old and grumpy I guess haha

[wooden dove]

It laid me out hard for two days as well. Don't feel bad.

[junior crane]

LOL

[pastel coyote]

Didn't they show us the relic in the bozja quest ? It will be weird if it's like "look those are the Gunnhildr Blade !" "Well first i see a rod and then i don't see any scythe"

[half phoenix]

The closest to relics being retroactively added were whatever ultimates used relics as the weapon drops

[dusty geode]

they dont even add gnb and dnc weapons when they make new old primal ones, wouldnt count on sge or rpr getting anything outside of crafted, dungeon and tomestone

[bold condor]

Gunnhildr's nouliths lmao

[wary perch]

Raving with the concert on replay

[zealous mulch]

Hi, one thing about the full 6.0 trailer bothers me. wasn't krile the scion who went to speak to the forum to enlist their aid instead of Y'shtola?

[bold condor]

WAIT SCAEVAN MAGITEK NOULITHS

[subtle pasture]

If one of the Blades of Gunnhildr wielded it, it’s a Gunnhildr’s Blade, including the Gunnhildr’s Blade that’s a Gunnhildr’s Blade wielded by a Blade, thus a Gunnhildr’s Blade Gunnhildr’s Blade.

[bold condor]

We'll be going to Sharlayan in 6.0 and it's likely depicting individual scenes from the expansion.

[dusty geode]

Gonna be ronkan nouliths though, from ravel

[untold tide]

Possible somethign happen. Have to wait for 5.55 msq

[subtle pasture]

[zealous mulch]

ok thanks!

[pale shuttle]

If they do make reapers skill floor low the skill ceiling better be pretty high >__<

[ancient portal]

Ready to become what I must.
Ready to become a Bunny Boy Sage.

[severe brook]

we're going to get Nouliths that are just that one PVP Cannon-tetsubo Gunblade, but four of them

[wooden dove]

Maybe they realized krile sucks and dumped her off the boat

[coral kite]

same

[severe brook]

four of these levitating around

[untold tide]

I think I suspect that i know what will happen to Krile. But i rather wait for next patch MSQ.

[half phoenix]

Yes, Krile said she was going to enlist the aid of Sharlayan, but she also probably got blocked from seeing the Forum despite being “the last student of Baldesion” so Y’shtola just casually made he way into the building, past security

[pastel coyote]

Get lost in eureka 2.0

[untold tide]

Heh. But nah.

[bold condor]

Sentenced to Labyrinthos for crimes against knowledge.

[chilly bluff]

[untold tide]

YoshiP did say something. That might possible involve Krile.

[zealous mulch]

well i hope nothing happens to krile. she is the last lalafell scion 😦

[kind lark]

Will we end up fighting the nerds?

[ancient portal]

Y'shtola will spank anyone who stands in her way.

[bold condor]

Some of them, probably. Bibliothecs, you know.

[zealous mulch]

this i agree hahaha

[subtle pasture]

The acoustics in that chamber must be fantastic

Like when she clacked her staff on the floor

[kind lark]

Its amazing, it sounds like it was playing endwalker theme

[half phoenix]

No, they’re the new social space, like Ishgard, Kugane, and Crystarium. Radz-at-Han is the new endgame hub/tome vendor

[untold tide]

I am hesitating to speak my mind on what possible will happen to krile here...

[pastel coyote]

Please distract me

[subtle pasture]

Labyrinthos seems to be a Sharlayan zone, but being underground we could only guess where it actually is

[steep coral]

I thought it was old sharlayan which was gonna be the city hub?

[bold condor]

Yes.

[teal geyser]

I seriously love the idea of Krile walking down a hallway and one of these guys throws a book at her from the side and knocks her out and imprisons her and that's the big part of the Sharlayan section

[half phoenix]

It is a Sharlayan zone

[teal geyser]

Oh fuck wrong message fuuuuuu

[wary perch]

http://ff14net.2chblog.jp/archives/58032361.html
<@&151564672154206208>, appreciate if you can help translate the info please, not sure it's the same info as yesterday though. Thanks
🙏

[ancient portal]

If you unequip your pants outside Mare Lamentorum does that mean you're mooning on the moon?

[subtle pasture]

Krile’s not in the group art piece is she

[untold tide]

Ok. YoshiP or other guy did say at one point in Fanfest saying that we might have to say goodbye to Scion. With trailer did not show Krile. I think Krile will die in 5.55 patch MSQ. That is my theory. I hope i am wrong.

[teal geyser]

She is not

[gaunt star]

Zenos takes her place as a scion

[subtle pasture]

Still disrespecting my girl

[coral kite]

Man, I feel like that'd be too obvious now but if that's what they want to do then aight

[bold condor]

Estinien x Krile. He can't resist feisty Echo-users who don't put up with his bullshit.

[gaunt star]

LMFAO

Make it a cutscene too

[pastel coyote]

Krile can't be the reaper avatar, he is too tall

[viscid monolith]

The fading in of the statue, the change of music, the Song singing about the superiority of sharlayan and when it reaches the "higher and higher" the camera makes a deep dive DOWN to their secret they don't want the world to see. The camera goes WILD in tune with the music. It's WOW```

Did I miss something? Is that what that section of the song is about?

[ancient portal]

Estinien x Alisaie's fist

[bold condor]

I don't think the Sharlayans would kill Krile unless they absolutely had to.

[viscid monolith]

We all know Estinein is marrying one of the brood

[half phoenix]

I doubt they’d kill off Krile, remember, she’s relevant to Warring Triad. They were probably implying just cycling out NPCs from the main cast

[subtle pasture]

That is, not some Sharlayan anthem, it’s most certainly a section about Hydaelyn

[clever flume]

[bold condor]

I get what Nethyr intended but Wow that phrasing holy damn

[teal geyser]

I mean...not wrong

[viscid monolith]

Ok just making sure

[zealous mulch]

really makes me wanna /slap alphinaud's dad...

[untold tide]

Like i say. A theory. I would be wrong about it.

[fringe star]

Did they show who won the fanart contest ?

[hasty totem]

Thanks for the ping

We will look into it, the article looks important

[steep coral]

I'm actually quite curious as to what Graha found hidden beneath sharlayan , implying things he didn't know even after all his years in the crystarium and traveling from the future

[subtle pasture]

Yeah I get where it was coming from, I don’t think the song is that tied to Sharlayan beyond a choice for the trailer

[untold tide]

alphy dad is hot. I will admit it. But....look like he is punchable as well.

[ancient portal]

He looks like he's got a noulith up his ass.

[teal geyser]

Still waiting on their mom

[hasty totem]

I see

Dev's interview on Male Viera

[viscid monolith]

I don't think Sharlayan is hiding any dark secret that can make them look worse than they already do.

[hasty totem]

Should be really important for lore lovers.

[gaunt star]

https://twitter.com/koyoriin/status/1393678741331718151?s=19

Koyorin 🍎 (@koyoriin)

what if...reaper hilda... // #FFXIV #FFXIVENDWALKER

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[teal geyser]

Right, Archon bread is enough of a crime

[subtle pasture]

Well G’raha is in a library on like floor -32 and behind like three doors one of which has pretty heavy chains

But that seems fairly standard for a library of the Sharlayan scale— see: Gubal

[untold tide]

That make me ask question. How did he get pass heavy chained door?

[somber storm]

Tfw Sharlayan probably made godly ramen but don't eat it

[viscid monolith]

Worse than Archon Bread and Sharlayan Architecture?

[steep coral]

Yeah, but he did find something of interest, that only is applied to eorzia or our star

[pastel coyote]

We use a keyblade

[teal geyser]

The powers of being a trailer

[gaunt star]

sharlayan
Godly ramen

[odd yoke]

The back door obviously

[subtle pasture]

The book had a symbol resembling what has appeared to a symbol of the Students of Baldesion so, as an Archon, he might just have access

[half phoenix]

If I had to guess, it’s that Sharlayan was founded by an unsundered Ascian/Amaroutine, probably one of the ones against the Convocation’s plan

[ancient portal]

Adjacent unlocked door. That door just needs some repairs.

[gaunt star]

They ate wood chippings and thought "mm nutritious"

[subtle pasture]

Or maybe the symbol just means access to that room in the grand library

[teal geyser]

Wait wut

[zealous mulch]

Graha has lived for eons. you think a mere door with locks can stop him!!?

[steep coral]

Ah so hydaelyn side of amaroutians?

[bold condor]

Sharlayan was not founded by an Ancient. But I do expect that they know about the Ancients and have known for a very long time.

[subtle pasture]

The cover looked like the middle of his eye tattoo, the one Moen and other Scions had too

[desert quiver]

anyone got a link to the patch 5.55 slides from last night for the live letter?

[teal geyser]

I should look at the trailer then

[half phoenix]

How do you know this?

[untold tide]

You have not see it yet, Calisaie?

If you dont mind spoiler. You should watch it. So good.

[bold condor]

Because it was founded by Archon Nyunkrepf Nyunkrepfsyn, an Echo-user of the Twelve Archons.

[teal geyser]

I have I'm just saying I should watch it again

[subtle pasture]

Here I can pull the shot of the book cover, 'least

[bold condor]

He was responsible for building Nyunkrepf's Hope, the vessel he sailed from his home in the northern seas to Eorzea during the Sixth Umbral Calamity.

[pastel coyote]

Let's just call him Nyun-Nyun

[teal geyser]

I...well huh I guess he probably did have the echo if he saw this coming

[bold condor]

I mean, maybe. It's hard to say. Nyunkrepf wasn't of the opinion that knowledge should be hoarded.

[teal geyser]

Okay I see what you mean Pash and ehhh

[bold condor]

I don't think he'd approve of what Sharlayan's doing right now, and when he founded it (and passed away) it was a small village of refugees, not even a nation.

[untold tide]

ooh. good catch

[subtle pasture]

though I think everyone we've seen with the aetherometers has had that mark on their skin or clothing,

[untold tide]

very good catch.

[coral kite]

I thought sharlayans eat shittty bread

[subtle pasture]

(the visor around his neck)

[steep coral]

Yeah i remember yshtola with that yevon eye mark

[bold condor]

Now as for the life of Nyunkrepf himself, I fully expect we'll learn more about the Twelve Archons in particular in Endwalker, since he was one of them.

[gaunt star]

they do

[steep coral]

Dunno what to call it

[gaunt star]

godly ramen by sharlayan is lol

[bold condor]

And the tales we've heard of the ones we know and the deeds they've left behind imply a lot.

Like Ahldbhar, whose story seems to imply he turned coat and became an Ascian.

[brisk quail]

Bro. Soken...

[half phoenix]

Well it’s a highly locked room in a very deep, very old room in their collections of tomes and knowledge, it something obviously forbidden from common people that’d cause an outrage, or would be highly dangerous to Sharlayan society

[brisk quail]

Soken... man. ;-; i can't keep myself together

[bold condor]

And the Hope itself, currently moored in the Peaks, is an impressive piece of crafting.

I wouldn't say too impressive for the era, War of the Magi that it was, but it could be Ancient-inspired.

[half phoenix]

And learning the true founding of your country is not what is commonly taught would be part of that

[subtle pasture]

What was the old theory for the eye tattoo, Rom, just a Scion mark??

[gritty pawn]

Do we know what the limit break switch is on the ffxiv guitar?

[untold tide]

we all cant keep ourselves together.

[subtle pasture]

Something which G'raha and Moen having it as a tattoo made confusing

[untold tide]

Soken and YoshiP broke all of us.

[hasty totem]

・アヴァターとリーパーと融合すると武器が新しいデザインに切り替わる

"When combining your avatar with Reaper, your weapon will switch/change its design into a new one"

[gaunt star]

ngl having the chat running in the background of the primals concert was pretty poggers

[hasty totem]

🤔

[teal geyser]

People connected to the Scions IIRC

[bold condor]

No, it's just an additional Archon mark. You can have variations of that mark, it seems.

[half phoenix]

It was from the circle of knowing, one of the two groups that merged together to form the scions

[untold tide]

I know. I try to put chat on youtube and see myself on the screen. hahaha. But i cant see it 😦

[bold condor]

The Sharlayans aren't quite like the Ishgardians. Their founding isn't based on a lie to fool the masses.

[bold condor]

G'raha was never part of the Circle of Knowing.

[teal geyser]

No you're thinking of the other mark and even then it was for all archons

[subtle pasture]

Yeah, since a very similar symbol is on the book G'raha reads in the trailer, maybe we cAN FINALLY LEARN WHAT THEY MEAN EXACTLY

[hallow lodge]

meanwhile, our ass is like "nah. i'm gonna be the adventurer leader. fuck your city. ADVENTURE"

[pastel coyote]

z o d i a r k

[teal geyser]

I mean....it's just an eye. Doesn't even have the other pieces. I wouldn't go down this rabbit hole too much

[somber storm]

That eye was usually for Circle of Knowledge members which was Louisoux's group

[bold condor]

Rather, Sharlayan as a nation seems to be one that seeks to preserve and hoard its knowledge away and survive even at the expense of letting everyone else die, which is a clear and present issue of their society, not one based on millennia of lies.

[ancient portal]

"Hi, you don't like combat? Sorry, warfare follows me around. Best prepare."

[bold condor]

If anything, I suspect their reasoning for doing what they're doing is based on learning the same truths we did and drawing different conclusions on how to handle it.

[rare sinew]

Why r people talkin bout soken?

[sterile galleon]

Cancer

[untold tide]

I am going to take 2 and half week off work for EW launch 🙂

[bold condor]

He has cancer. It's in remission, but he has been fighting it since last year.

[rare sinew]

Oh damn.

[teal geyser]

https://youtu.be/OJCKGhgxXJ8

[subtle pasture]

but it's not jsut the eye, it's the center part of that tattoo-- excuse shitty mspainting-

but I do just think it's a symbol of having access to that forbidden wing, which archonhood prob grants in other halls too, etc

[untold tide]

@rare sinewand YoshiP broke down crying on stage as well. Make all of us crying.

[teal geyser]

Oh I was looking at it another way

[gaunt star]

https://twitter.com/HyperLightspeed/status/1393414739997335554?s=20

💟 Luke 💟 (@HyperLightspeed)

when the tank pulls way too much and doesn't use CDs

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[teal geyser]

I was looking at it as an eye if you turned the book sideways

This makes more sense Pash lol

[subtle pasture]

yeah the first screen has it in focus but a bad angle to see the symbol, after it puts g'raha's face in focus so it's hard to see the cover o(-<

man I don't like G'raha or Thancred's faces in the fully animated style

[sterile galleon]

Thou hath committest the gravest of sins.

[subtle pasture]

everyone else is hot tho, Shtola and Forchenault especially

[gaunt star]

ik some people had some issues with yshtola but she looked super pretty in her last shot

[teal geyser]

Thancred is fine. G'raha eyebrows and I think eye size is weird though

[teal geyser]

Ye

[pastel coyote]

Well they can't be as cool as senpai

[midnight panther]

I like her brave version cg better tbh

[kind lark]

Urianger looks strange imo tho

[coral kite]

i'm still giving Y'shtola the side eye but, yea

[sterile galleon]

He looks fine honestly.

[gaunt star]

also the fuckin chads with the twinning performance LMAO

[gaunt star]

ok yeah she looks pretty good there

but i see big eyes i go

[midnight panther]

Her face looks less weird

[subtle pasture]

And of course, no shortage of significance when it comes to G'raha and red eyeballs, maybe it's a chamber of Allagan tomes, which esp makes sense why Moenbryda and G'raha would have had it fully tattooed. But that's on looser speculation, though

[bold condor]

Me: Well, Shadowbringers is almost over, so I'm sure there's no more emotional gut punches coming.
end of Fan Fest 2021 happens

[gaunt star]

ikr

[bold condor]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-black-guy-meme-sad-gif-11746329

[teal geyser]

You're not even safe outside the game

[gaunt star]

endwalker fanfest is gonna be bussin though

[crystal arrow]

shtola just has her dissidia model in the trailer, and it looks fine

but yeah, the size of graha's eyes is what bothers me so much

[teal geyser]

So small!

[bold condor]

He's my actual favorite musician just because he seems so nice and also 90% of what I listen to now is composed by him so I honestly have no choice.

[teal geyser]

Also La Hee

[crystal arrow]

fr. cutscene graha's face is like 99% cheeks

[midnight panther]

Im more bothered by how thick Graha neck is.

[subtle pasture]

"I don't think the lyrics are that connected to what's on screen in the full trailer," I say,
rewatching "Burning brightly / In hallowed white" be perfectly synced to Alisaie casting Verholy.

[teal geyser]

Swole Miqo'te neck

[bold condor]

G'raha tiny face thicc necc.

[crystal arrow]

... why would you point this out to me oh no

can't unsee

[sterile galleon]

-So Yoshi did mention that there will be lore reasons for the induction of male Viera into the narrative. All I can think of is that Fanny's shenanigans have reached into their homeland somehow.

[teal geyser]

Or just the Dalmascan fighting /shrug

[crystal arrow]

or it could be related to StQ, since we know fran is going to be in zadnor

[bold condor]

Oh yeah no I think "Endwalker" is a medley that is specifically made to go with that trailer.

[sterile galleon]

And/or that.

[bold condor]

I thought about this when I realized how jarring the transitions for HW and SB would be in a fight.

[gaunt star]

well there's like 99% certainty there's gonna be a tower in Zadnor so 🤷

[teal geyser]

Not like they NEED to have a lore reason mind you >.>

[gaunt star]

maybe we'll see a male viera in Zadnor

[crystal arrow]

we don't see a tower in zadnor, though

[midnight panther]

I must sharrreeeeee also yshtola looks like she's covered in oil or something, she hella glossy

[teal geyser]

Did we see all of Zandor?

[subtle pasture]

Oh, fair. I meant the post Lance earlier quoted that said the Higher, oh higher bit was about Sharlayan superiority...?

[gaunt star]

well zadnor hasnt come out

[lunar hound]

does anyone know if the concert is going to be posted anywhere?

[pastel coyote]

Don't forget to check grandma after the patch

[kind lark]

Would there be a reason for a tower to be there?

[crystal arrow]

we saw a decent number of screenshots showing the skybox and no tower. I don't think it would make sense for a tower to be involved in the stq story anyways lol

[gaunt star]

and it requires 5.4 msq to be completed, so i dont see any other reason except for a Tower

[teal geyser]

Well there are towers everywhere so....

[somber storm]

Probably preparing for oil wrestling

[subtle pasture]

but I think it's more that uplifting theme transitioning to Shtola standing defiant against the Forum, rather than praising them

[midnight panther]

[somber storm]

https://youtu.be/AreH1UIhy-s

[teal geyser]

If there isn't a tower then we are getting tempering curing. It's one or the other or both

[crystal arrow]

Why would you see the 5.4 requirement and make the leap to "towers must be there" and not "cure for tempering"

[ancient portal]

Y'shtola job change to MNK for that greased lightning.

[bold condor]

Oh, nah it's not. I mean, kind of.

Okay, so it's kind of about both?

[midnight panther]

Yshtola already got the tiger eye

[gaunt star]

oh yeah that was 5.4 too
well, its one of the two but i think a tower would be cool

[bold condor]

Contextually, it's PROBABLY going to be used mostly to represent fighting for the salvation of the star.

But the lyrics can ALSO be taken to refer to ensuring your own survival against the end of the world.

And I think Koji did that intentionally.

[crystal arrow]

nahh if anything we'll see more auracite shenanigans (and given what we saw in the pll, seems to be the case)

seems like there may be another StQ or something though, so tempering could still very much be a problem

[gaunt star]

does bwagi talk about how scions are trying to find a tempering cure if you havent done 5.4?

[bold condor]

Wouldn't be the first time, "Shadowbringers" is full of double meanings like that.

[subtle pasture]

I'll be the first (and not the only) to post a screenshot in Sharlayan titled "Higher, oh higher." to the first screenshot contest in EW.

this, I swear.

[half phoenix]

He also said male Viera are rare so there will probably a handful of male NPCs, period like maybe one or two in EW and 6.x, and one extra later, then never again.

[dim sigil]

Higher oh Higher is gonna be the main
Music bit probably

[pastel coyote]

Hmmmm That it's chorus might ring for all could this include the remaining ascian ?

[midnight panther]

That one meme with Futurama broken pelvis speaks

[gaunt star]

omg yoshi on stage for titan song

[teal geyser]

No it just means for everyone in the world

[bold condor]

tbh all they have to do is make a new clan of Viera in a different setting.

[subtle pasture]

Simply put it's definitely the Tomorrow and Tomorrow to Endwalker's Who Brings Shadow

[bold condor]

If we have Viera in the New World or Meracydia, for example, they wouldn't have to follow the Ivalice lore.

[subtle pasture]

Higher oh higher, that is

[half phoenix]

No, as in they’re murdered by their tribe for deserting the forest and their post

[crystal arrow]

I wonder what sort of choice we'll have to make in Zadnor they really seemed to emphasize that it was important

[teal geyser]

Maybe they could work out how to wear hats

[midnight panther]

Oh feels bad

[bold condor]

idk about murdered. excommunicated, sure.

[subtle pasture]

maybe canonize that "the Veena have a more lax Green Word" that the ff wiki had

[bold condor]

like, you wouldn't be able to come back, but they're not gonna chase your ass.

[midnight panther]

Gotta get some of that cat girls man

[subtle pasture]

even tho the Dramaturge says those two clans are very similar

[somber storm]

High libido mang

[half phoenix]

No, murdered. They don’t want their villages to be discovered.

[crystal arrow]

lol no

[bold condor]

You're factually incorrect.

[teal geyser]

Can you uh, back that up?

[crystal arrow]

I feel like people are just desperately trying to reach to make male viera seem secretive as fuck without proof because they're mad they're playable

[flint iron]

Fran little sister literally ran out of the wood and still being okay to return

[sterile galleon]

I figure we'll meet one in Radz-at-han

[ancient portal]

We need a bunny boi meetup at launch to annoy the naysayers.

[crystal arrow]

the answer is: we don't know the reason behind why m viera are playable, but matsuno himself approved of m viera so uhhh

[gaunt star]

if they were murdered for deserting
and the hunters have to leave to kill them
wouldnt they technically be leaving too
and then have to be hunted down for deserting

[subtle pasture]

tbf the game lore already sets up that, realistically speaking, the Viera we play are City, what this does is adding that men can also leave the Wood.

[viscid monolith]

They aren't killed for leaving the forest

[subtle pasture]

it doesn't change the ways of the Wood Warders, just, some men leave, just like some women do.

[distant sonnet]

I actually want like.. full song versions of a bunch of shit from that trailer. The Stormblood section is fucking 🔥

[teal geyser]

^ it is very simple

[gaunt star]

the end of the world coming is a reasonable reason for them to appear

[half phoenix]

That is technically grounds for a proper report against your account if its meant to be harassment. Don’t.

[somber storm]

Viera men tired of viera women so they seek catgirls

[teal geyser]

I've had that Stormblood section and the "wings of hope" line stuck in my head for days

[distant sonnet]

Or just.. enjoy yourself and don't give other people rentfree headspace.

[rare sinew]

@teal geyser @untold tide Damn. Thanks for the info. Thank goodness it's at least in remission

[silk dragon]

like how male miquote started showing up post calamty?

[coral kite]

I'm tired of women so I seeek viera boys

[hasty totem]

I like how people read > Male Viera are rare, but I don't want to say they will never appear as NPCs, but if they do we will make sure it fits the setting, but there is no village/town with a huge Male Viera population as "they are murdered and they don't want their villages to be discovered"

[distant sonnet]

Yeah man. Fuck.

[teal geyser]

Okay dude

[gaunt star]

i guess? i wasnt playing FFXIV at that time xD

[bold condor]

Catmen.

[somber storm]

No one spayed the catmen

[crystal arrow]

Nah it's not.

on that note I'm down to do this

[gaunt star]

@teal geyserbtw the stormblood remix is available from the EW trailer?

[somber storm]

✂️

[bold condor]

Fun fact, in 1.0 it was said Highlander females weren't around because they were apparently ALL fighting in the Resistance in Gyr Abania.

[sterile galleon]

Or catbois

[half phoenix]

If you’re targetting people to “annoy them” that’s literally harassing them

[viscid monolith]

There aren't any large villages of male Viea because they live alone in the fores until they die. Pretty sad life.

[crystal arrow]

y'all are just mad that m viera are playable and it shows

[torpid yoke]

hawt

[somber storm]

Damn, stronk women

[steep coral]

Miqo forever

[teal geyser]

Pretty much sums up how people react to Viera in general

[bold condor]

Highlander males: being a refugee sucks i have to live under capitalism
Highlander females: STORM OF BLOOD BORN FROM BLOOD

[silk dragon]

so post calamity made female hilanders start showing up more then?

[crystal arrow]

and I just have one word for you

cope

[gaunt star]

i dont care if they are playable cause i knew they were going to release both missing genders anyway
tho id just prefer if they fixed what they said they would first

[viscid monolith]

Depends on how they "annoy" people. If they just run around and emote at people I doubt that's reportable. Especially if they have emote text turned off.

[somber storm]

Roe women wearing the pants in the relationship

[bold condor]

Well, no, that lore was dumb and it's not canon anymore.

[teal geyser]

OF OUR FALLEN BRO- wait shit

[wet crown]

Confirmed : female highlanders are amazonesses

[random ravine]

any new updates?

[wet crown]

male highlanders are pisseants

[bold condor]

There are loads of female Highlanders who have definitely been here since Ala Mhigo fell as of 2.0-4.x.

[gaunt star]

matsuno had the best lore tbh. they made male viera with allag cloning tech

[crystal arrow]

I'd suspect that this is why viera and hroth were so neglected during shb, so I think that we'll see improvements to the other genders as well in 6.0

[half phoenix]

No you didn’t no one knew that besides the dev team

[viscid monolith]

Some people are mad. Others are looking for people to be mad to rub it in. Bith groups are fucking annoying.

[silk dragon]

its just that post calmaty alot has changed in the world

[bold condor]

Also Minfilia and Yda/Lyse are Highlanders, even if they use the Midlander model.

[gaunt star]

yes i did, i was expecting them in 7.0 tho not 6.0. save the projecting to urself tho

[carmine basin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/100463940835762176/783013381513936916/unknown.png

[steep coral]

Yeah its kinda mild, in terms of what are reportable, but enough about male viera, its time to talk about the forbidden lowlanders

[gaunt star]

possibly tbh

[half phoenix]

“Expecting” aka “hoping” isn’t “knowing”

[somber storm]

Remember to spay bun bois to decrease rabbit populations

[crystal arrow]

Most people knew it was coming but a vocal minority called them crazy

[teal geyser]

Yeah disappointing but if that's the price I'll pay it

[silk dragon]

so i have a feeling there might not be any new trances or upgrade the EGI summons to dem-summons

[gaunt star]

i wasnt hoping, cause i dont care about them

[bold condor]

Rak, bruh, just let people have their thing.

[half phoenix]

Okay, how did you KNOW they were making them?

[subtle pasture]

Female Hrothgar are definitely 7.0 at the latest, so really the hope is for them sooner than that

[teal geyser]

Oh my God

[crystal arrow]

cope

[gaunt star]

i said i knew they would release them eventually but not in 6.0
Which means i didnt know they were actually making them now

[ancient portal]

Let's be honest here, XIV summoner will never be as cool as XI summoner was.

[crystal arrow]

you just seem really mad that people were loud about something they wanted and the devs delivered

[silk dragon]

unless they make a Demi summon upgrade for the Egis

[steep coral]

@silk dragon I hope they revamp egi summons, so they can all be demi summons, turn bahamut and phoenix into normal egi's, and we can utilize ifrit,garuda,titan,bahamut,phoenix into demi's depending on which one is out at the time

[carmine basin]

Let's move on. What do you guys think the important choice in StQ 5.55 update gonna be about?

[distant sonnet]

Just let people be happy. You don't have to play a bunny if you don't want to. It'll all be okay.

[half phoenix]

And if the 12/Tactics lore writer outright refused?

[gaunt star]

saving Mikoto i guess?

[hasty totem]

What was the issue?

[subtle pasture]

||Misija's fate||-- but god I hope not.

[teal geyser]

You must choose your waifu

[hasty totem]

On Male Viera?

[carmine basin]

And will we ever see Mikoto's twin

[silk dragon]

dont ask

[distant sonnet]

So heres a dirty secret: Lore fits to service gameplay, not the other way around.

[torpid yoke]

Upgrading the all the egis to demis would be dumb

[steep coral]

that would be alot more cooler imo, and we could get other egi's like the missing ramuh,leviathan,shiva as well

[crystal arrow]

I'd say we'll learn some terrible truth about bozja and have to make a choice between gabranth's path and the resitance's path?

[gaunt star]

then nothing? i dont feel like i win or lose with male viera existing, so i dont understand what ure trying to prove

[teal geyser]

Nah that's too big lol

[wet crown]

We have an established lore about egis and trances. It won't be changed.

[somber storm]

Have Mikoto marry Cid or not

[kind lark]

We throw misijia in the trash

[subtle pasture]

Matsuno tweeted about it already, didn't he

[carmine basin]

No he's taken by Nero /s

[steep coral]

They said a revamp is coming up, so they might

[gaunt star]

he said hes ok with it

[silk dragon]

or have optional quets where you can atune for more trances like Shiva

[crystal arrow]

he literally didn't though

he works at squenix and posted a tweet showing approval for m viera when they were revealed

[subtle pasture]

exactly

[wet crown]

Kill Mesija. She turned all the blades into abominations

[gaunt star]

he also joked they made them using allagan cloning tech

[bold condor]

He basically said it was okay and made a joke about maybe it's Allagan cloning.

[torpid yoke]

Bruh can you just like not please

[half phoenix]

That no one KNEW anything. That implies you had information, you HOPED they’d be added

[gaunt star]

Just stop talking, ure making me lose brain cells

[teal geyser]

Oh my fucking God

[carmine basin]

What did Matsuno tweet?

[distant sonnet]

What a saucy owl.

[subtle pasture]

I don't want Zadnor's Decision to be about Misija bc that's just, such.... a lot of fate to put in player's hands, but it is the first choice for a Big Story Thing to put in our hands.

[crystal arrow]

stop being pedantic and in denial, you're just making yourself look like a literal clown

[gaunt star]

https://twitter.com/YasumiMatsuno/status/1393399787844640768

松野泰己 (@YasumiMatsuno)

遂に実装キター！
ヴィエラ♂！

#FFXIV
#FF14デジタルファンフェス
#FFXIVFanFest

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[subtle pasture]

mind, Eureka's choice ultimately didn't matter (if you cleared BA), so, m-maybe the same there

[steep coral]

Guys no fighting, if we need a reference to the past, let us look at all the people who got insulted when necro was implied to come in the future

[crystal arrow]

can we get this pinned ^ either here or in #archived-lore-spoilers to refute this shit please

[somber storm]

Tfw you can't use male viera race boots for Wolf armour glam

[gaunt star]

pretty sure yoshi p said the choise wouldnt affect the ending

[torpid yoke]

Cant wait to get my bozja stat upgrades so i can blow through delubrum faster :)

[distant sonnet]

You know.. the only reason that there was 'lore' about no bunny men was because they only wanted to make a bunny girl and needed a cheap explanation for why they didn't have male bunny models, right?

[hasty totem]

Before I ask for a move on.

Just what was the issue here?

[half phoenix]

Sorry for wanting people to use proper words that already exist instead of trying to change the meanings of others??

[crystal arrow]

more m viera denialists

[hasty totem]

on what specifically?

[wet crown]

Killing a potato is absolutely an important matter.

[teal geyser]

/ getting really mad over someone's wording and stuff

[hasty totem]

denial of male viera on what?

[crystal arrow]

claiming they're not lore accurate to ff12, when matsuno approved of them

[gaunt star]

i said i knew that SE would eventually release male viera/fem hrothgar but after 6.0 aka 7.0. Rakarrak assumes im hoping or that i had insider info

[torpid yoke]

It's really just a problem of wording

[crystal arrow]

also dude said m viera would be hunted down and murdered if they left their villages

[distant sonnet]

It seems to be nitpicking but like really aggressive nitpicking for very little reason, best as I can tell.

[torpid yoke]

Man i really considering changing to bun boy from lala

[gaunt star]

but in reality i dont give a damn if male viera exist or not, i dont win or lose for knowing SE would cave in peoples wishes

[distant sonnet]

Like its a fight from and for literally nothing.

[torpid yoke]

Hope they have good hair styles

[subtle pasture]

Yeah hindsight bias and whatnot, with no shortage of praise for the graphics team pulling it off

[viscid monolith]

They gave us male Viera lore in like, 4.3. Nothing about being hunted down. Just that they live hard lives. And there are proportionally far fewer males than females

[somber storm]

Plus you know, lore can be very different compared to in game

[hasty totem]

Ok. I'll paste this and we'll move on.

――ヴィエラの男性は設定上では希少な種族ということでしたが、プレイヤーキャラクターとして実装するということは、NPCにもヴィエラの男性が登場するのでしょうか？

吉田　もちろん、可能性がゼロだとは言いません。ただ、希少だからこそいままでみなさんが目にすることがなかったということも、設定としてきっちりと作ってきたところですので、たとえば彼らが大繁殖して、“ヴィエラ男性の園”みたいなものが登場するのかと言われると、それはたぶんないのではないかなと（笑）。ちゃんと設定に沿った形で、『FFXIV』の世界に登場できるようにしていくことは大事だと考えています。

--When you said that Viera males are a rare race in the setting, does that mean there will be Viera males as NPCs if you implement them as player characters?

Yoshida Of course, I'm not saying there's no possibility. It's just that because they're so rare, you've never seen them before. I don't think so (laughs). I think it's important to make sure that they can appear in the world of FFXIV in a way that is consistent with the setting.

[gaunt star]

ill probably switch to male viera for like a month after i clear post-6.0 dungeons/content

[hasty totem]

Note that this is DeepL translation for now

I'll have it reword into proper English

[crystal arrow]

m viera may be the first time I fanta into a male

[subtle pasture]

like, there's no "male villages," the men are wood warders and just claim their forests as a whole their territory-- then that one time every certain number of years they come to a village and [REDACTED]

[distant sonnet]

Unironically same though.

[gaunt star]

same, but ill go back to fem au ra again

[subtle pasture]

except, of course, if they just leave the wood like some women do, etc, etc

[teal geyser]

And fuuuuuuuuuuck

[somber storm]

They do a certain anime protag

[gaunt star]

also i love how they arent masculine etc, i hated it on male miqote xD

[weary rampart]

The Great?

[torpid yoke]

I'll have to consider switching again since i did 5.0 as bun girl XD

[crystal arrow]

i'll maybe go back to fem viera and then femhroth

[ancient portal]

Spicy redacting.

[gaunt star]

!faq worldmap

[lusty shadow]

Hydaelyn world map translated by Rommy 🌎

Image URL: https://i.imgur.com/JTbvskE.jpg

[teal geyser]

The Three Great Continents

[hasty totem]

And I have another that completely seals this whole argument here.

[somber storm]

One male for an entire village

[hasty totem]

and you bet it's going to be long

[half phoenix]

I’m not denying they exist, i couldn’t care less, they’ll be a minuscule amount of the player base, which we’ll be able to see clearly part way into 6.0 or 6.1 if luckybancho still does their lodestone scans. I just want people to stop implying they KNEW things no one did outside of the development staff

[flint iron]

Where is the new world where blue mage from

[teal geyser]

West

[weary rampart]

oooo

[gaunt star]

they’ll be a minuscule amount of the player base

[hasty totem]

--Male Viera has been announced, but I don't think we've seen him before in the "FF" series. Will the design be original to "FFXIV"?

Yoshida Yes, that's right. The Viera was created by the team behind "FFXIV", so I hope you'll take the plunge and use it when it's implemented. However, as I mentioned in an interview with the media at the time of the announcement of Shadowbringers with the implementation of the Viera female and the Hrothgar male in patch 5.0, we were really going to stop adding new races to "FFXIV.

[steep coral]

im okay with male viera mainly cuz i dont care about the consistency of the lore(i used to play a game where lore kept getting destroyed for service) but honestly, the fact theyre willing to add things that arent in the 'lore' factor of the game is interesting....That would imply, that theyre not limiting the imagination for consitency so i propose we hope for cooler classes in the future

[crystal arrow]

the majority of catboys will swap to m viera in an instant, don't act like that won't happen. just straight up factually wrong.

[subtle pasture]

oh how I wish they would be miniscule and I say that only bc I am a hrothgar and I'm pretty certain they're the lowest percentage of characters

[gaunt star]

People also need to understand FFXIV is its own thing, they can add whatever they want

[pastel coyote]

Show us your proof

[hasty totem]

Of course, we want to create new races, but adding them would mean multiplying the number of races by a huge amount of resources. We would have to multiply the rewards of every piece of equipment for that race, which would simply affect the time it takes to deliver the patch.

[distant sonnet]

Yeah. This is the Male Miqo'te extinction button.

[subtle pasture]

-or is it that still fem roe.

[half phoenix]

Basically west of Eorzea,

[teal geyser]

I mean...It works with the lore though

[gaunt star]

I’m not denying Reaper exists, i couldn’t care less, they’ll be a minuscule amount of the player base, which we’ll be able to see clearly part way into 6.0 or 6.1 if luckybancho still does their lodestone scans. I just want people to stop implying they KNEW Reaper would be the new melee no one did outside of the development staff

[torpid yoke]

Yall always get shafted im sorry QuQ

[gaunt star]

lmao

[wet crown]

Don't be. We have the best race

[subtle pasture]

They'll be more hrothgar women than men within the first month they're implemented I'm sure

[crystal arrow]

they literally said they will explain the lore reason

[hasty totem]

However, we received comments from all over the world, such as "I want to control male Viera and female Hrothgar with my own hands," and "I think the FFXIV team can create a different beastly male version of Mi'qote. We also received comments from the graphics team. The graphics team also said, "If Mr. Yoshida wants to do it, we can't do two races, but if it's just one race, we'll give it a try.

[subtle pasture]

and I'll still stand by my coeurl dadd--

[steep coral]

Well calisaie, coming from a couple months prior where necro was shutdown and male viera and female hroth, i want to believe they can add anything now

[gaunt star]

if they look like the odd images in bozka? yes

[wet crown]

Go on...

[steep coral]

depending on the popular vote

[somber storm]

Moon race

[viscid monolith]

Not a necromancer

[teal geyser]

To be fair this isn't necro.

[torpid yoke]

Really hope they at least fixed the face hair problem with rothgar

[viscid monolith]

More like a demon summoner

[wet crown]

Reaper is a voidmancer is anything

[crystal arrow]

this is not necro, just reaper.

[steep coral]

tell me the differences of necro and reaper aside from "no grimoire"

[gaunt star]

more like void groper

[torpid yoke]

Do you know about shin megami tensei? Thats reaper

[bold condor]

We're just summoning some demons from another plane that used to be humans until they d- aw.

[teal geyser]

Yeah they said no necromancer and we didn't get a necromancer

[viscid monolith]

Because Voidsent are just demons

[wet crown]

Voidsent

[gaunt star]

ure summoning a voidsent

[steep coral]

isnt that the same thing -.-

[crystal arrow]

no lol

[half phoenix]

Correct, no one knew it was going to be reaper, it was just the most accurate guess based on provided information from the hints.

[wet crown]

No

[viscid monolith]

Voidsent are NOT dead. Some of them were born Voidsent.

[teal geyser]

Not really

[gaunt star]

well the voidsent are humans who transformed into voidsent

[pale shuttle]

Necromancers control the dead? reaper harnesses the power of the void sent demon

[distant sonnet]

One is effectively a demon, one is a corpse.

[hasty totem]

We also wondered how to create a race of male Viera that we had never seen before, and to be honest, I think we should have implemented them at the same time as the female Hrothgar. To be honest, I think we should have implemented them at the same time as the female Hrothgar, but even if we implement them at the same time in the next expansion of Endwalker, the work involved would not be that different from implementing one race in Endwalker. If that's the case, we decided that it would be better for FFXIV players in the long run if we announced that we would definitely be implementing female Hrothgar race as well, and made the male Viera race available first in Endwalker. This contributes to the reason to why we decided to implement the male Viera first.

Ok

[carmine basin]

Glass you have been thirsty since fanfest

[hasty totem]

With that, move on

[bold condor]

Congratulations on figuring this out.

[random ravine]

and potatoes

[subtle pasture]

I'll eat all my nonwearable hats if the Avatar is revealed to be our 13th Shard at 80 or 90

[bold condor]

I'm sure that when people say "they knew" something, they're implying their fabulous psychic powers and not that they just correctly guessed it.

[pastel coyote]

Prepare the hat

[viscid monolith]

I just didn't think they'd call it Reaper. I was expecting something fancy.

[distant sonnet]

Hahaha. Its such a shitpost of a theory and I love it.

[wet crown]

Please, we just called it reaper because we had no better name for it

[random ravine]

it's possible the reaper class could be a melee necromancer

[steep coral]

its like saying the undead from ffx 'unsent' and we can see that most voidsent in ffxiv utilizes corpses and substitutes them inbetween them as undead = voidsent or vice versa, so im inclined to believe that death = voidsent usually

[torpid yoke]

same

[wet crown]

it's not lol

[silk dragon]

so i was thinking on what the next Trance might be

[bold condor]

Swear to god you'd watch Endgame when Captain America picks up the hammer and Thor is like "I knew it" and you'd be like "NUH UH"

[crystal arrow]

I still think that femhroth has a decent chance of coming to the game later on in the EW patch cycle, based on how they talked about it

[gaunt star]

i just feel Rakarrak is taking things too seriously for no reason and all of this was unnecessery

[somber storm]

https://tenor.com/view/only-game-heff-be-mad-gif-5038541

[pale shuttle]

I don’t think the void sent is an AI becayse of wonky AI issues so it’s most likely flashy animation just summoning it for a skill activation

[subtle pasture]

Reaper is already a necromancer in that a large number of Ashkin are void-possessed corses, so

[viscid monolith]

Isn't that why Thanos punched him?

[wet crown]

Glass.

[distant sonnet]

Honestly just knowing its coming is enough for me. They can take their time with it and make em look good.

[teal geyser]

A lot of voidsent utilise corpses yes but...that's not what is happening with reaper so the point is pointless

[gaunt star]

"hey! can you guess what this is?" shows a poorly silhouetted bicycle
"i know that's a bicycle, i just know it"
"uh, no you don't. that's the most accurate guess based on provided information from the hints"

[viscid monolith]

"NO YOU DIDN'T SHUT UP"

[wet crown]

[subtle pasture]

--corses, I've been rping too much lately

[carmine basin]

I tried changing the topic but ppl can't resist Hot Takes

[bold condor]

lmao Thanos

[half phoenix]

Well we already know it’s not a pet class, if that is what you’re implying, thanks to an interview two days ago.

[dim sigil]

Reaper voidsent is tied to the job bar resource i heard

[gaunt star]

bad

[crystal arrow]

for sure, for sure

[pale shuttle]

This conversation is smooth brain reaper is reaper lol get over it m8’s

[bold condor]

Reaper sleeper creeper beeper.

[somber storm]

What people need are hot pancakes

[subtle pasture]

REAPER REAPER THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE CALL ME
WHY? CUZ THEY ALL, DIE.

[pastel coyote]

good ref

[bold condor]

Fragile creatures, we are taught to fear the Reaper.

[somber storm]

[gaunt star]

a miqote dude on the forums was angry they arent coming sooner as if 'better late than never' is a bad thing

[pale shuttle]

we’ll discover the story when end walker comes out and then we should judge weather its like necromancer or not since we only saw the animations a SMALL reveal

[dim sigil]

Watch reaper have no lore just role quests

[crystal arrow]

we're gonna have to deal with people saying reaper is necro for the next six months aren't we

[gaunt star]

yknow what this reminds me of? that guy who was like "this isnt quantifiable and therefore invalid"

[distant sonnet]

Now if you'll excuse me. I need to go back to grinding Botanist leves.

[silk dragon]

like how the sin eaters are?

[craggy pawn]

The lawn better fear reaper

[tight marlin]

Reaper should have just been Reaper from Overwatch
we teleport, say nothing personal kill, then scream DIE DIE DIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
....
wait nvm we already do that

[gaunt star]

indeed

[pale shuttle]

The main villain is reaper it will 100% have lore

[wet crown]

It will have job quests. They already confirmed it

[steep coral]

its name is legit reaper cali, so -shrug- imo reaping is a form of magic called death magic utilized by the concept necromancers, which can also use blood magic, hex magic, curses, etc, but still the same thing, or base principal EVEN if its just 1 side of necromancy

[subtle pasture]

No one in my FC recognized it when I sang Philistine after the keynote

[somber storm]

Botanist prerequisite for Reaper

[random ravine]

well it could be like machinist where you have abilities that allow you to summon something for a short amount of time then disappears

[crystal arrow]

you're factually wrong. but alright

[distant sonnet]

I'm gonna go out on a wild limb and assume he won't actually be a Reaper in the same way that we are. He'll have some weird jacked up shit and probably not a voidsent at all.

[gaunt star]

inb4 Zodiark will be the Avatar

[silk dragon]

oh god no

[dim sigil]

Zenos wont have ties to the actual reaper story im sure

[crystal arrow]

I guess dark knight is necro then because it uses void powers huh

[gaunt star]

yoshi p told me yday on the phone

[pale shuttle]

probably lul, his void sent or demon may look completely huge and wY more darker

[gaunt star]

insider info

[distant sonnet]

It'll probably be closer to Ran'jit's scythe class thing and be a weird baby shinryu thing.

[random ravine]

imagine how the machinist can summon this ginormus mecha robot?

well maybe the reaper can summon this ginornmus voidsent (i'm hoping it's CoD)

[tight marlin]

obviously zenos's stand is a copy of WoL, idealized to be zenos's best friend

[somber storm]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-the-last-airbender-aang-airbending-goofy-funny-gif-13514465

[steep coral]

Now i didnt say dark knight lmao, Dakrness is different from death, in terms of magic usage and elemental wheel

[polar crater]

They said they want ya to email the questions or something.

[viscid monolith]

I'm 100% sure Dark isn't tied to the Void

[subtle pasture]

Neither's DRK, or PLD, exactly using Darkness or Light, iirc

[gaunt star]

wrong avatar law!

[viscid monolith]

In fact ya I just remembered it's called the Abyss

[steep coral]

putting words in my mouth with assumptions, but im willing to allow it cuz necro came out in some way even if you didnt want it lol

[teal geyser]

All I got out of this is "I headcanon reaping is necro magic because I want to be right and since I headcanon it it must be correct therefore you're wrong I'm right"

[subtle pasture]

Aether

[bold condor]

fwiw we have literally no idea what Reaping is beyond what they literally told us and it has everything to do with the Void according to them.

[pale shuttle]

We can just theorize bullshit and argue over something that hasn’t been shown 100% lol or just agree to disagree till end walker comes out when can give it 100% judgement lol

[gaunt star]

they'll probably come up with something like "you can't bind with your avatar 24/7 else it'll have really bad effects on you" and thats why its only temporary

meanwhile zenos: "fuck you i do wat i want"

[silk dragon]

it kinda is like how the light is tied to lightwardens and sin eaters

[crystal arrow]

and reaper is not death magic, it's a demon summoner.

[tight marlin]

if they think its right, is it really headcanon

[steep coral]

the same can be said with disagreeing with me instead of using an open mind, so i dont really get that arguement :p

[somber storm]

"The avatar my bitch"

[viscid monolith]

Not the same thing

[pale shuttle]

Reaper is summoner with no summons

[bold condor]

The Void is a Void of Darkness, Lance.

[gaunt star]

Fandaniel is actually Zenos's dad

[half phoenix]

It should have 2-3 quests minimum, going by previous patterns, along with Sage. 1 for picking it up, 1 for 80 potentially, and 1 at 90, which odds are every job will have to add on more lore to the world.

[torpid yoke]

In the context of ff14 necromancy and what the reaper does (Interact with voidsent which is something mhach also did) its different

[bold condor]

It is quite literally the same thing, actually. Unless you mean Dark Knight Darkness.

[pastel coyote]

The thing is what do you assume a reaper is ? Depending of the universe they are either ghostly or fucking plated monster

[tight marlin]

Fandadiel

[subtle pasture]

But DRK doesn't exactly use Darkness, I thought

[viscid monolith]

But it's not coming from the Void

[distant sonnet]

We're gonna see a looooot of this shit between now and launch about Reaper, huh.

[bold condor]

Is this about DRK?

[steep coral]

Mhach utilizes a form of necromancy tho :v

[viscid monolith]

Yes

[bold condor]

Oh, never mind then.

[silk dragon]

or if the reaper quest mentor is accused of being a necromancer

[gaunt star]

it will only get worse when we get the Live letters etc for it

[pale shuttle]

this convo

[steep coral]

i mean we see the corpse designs and all, and instead of death, its voidsent, so its the same thing really :p

[pale shuttle]

[bold condor]

Yeah no Dark Knight generates Darkness from strong emotions. Reaper draws their power from the Void.

[crystal arrow]

??? and that relates to reaper how, exactly,

[sterile galleon]

The edge-o-meter?

[gaunt star]

when i can draw my power from the Empty

[bold condor]

Inaccurate, that brain has wrinkles, my brain is smooth.

[viscid monolith]

Did they really have to have a void and The Void?

[pale shuttle]

Reaper draws its power from the Void Sent

[crystal arrow]

"this tangentially related thing uses death magic, therefore this job that they have repeatedly emphasized is NOT a necromancer is a necromancer"

[subtle pasture]

It would if Reaper is a Mhachi discipline, but we cannot say til we log in Ul'dah on November 19th

[tight marlin]

man imagine the lore conversations if this is Geomancer or Templar instead of Reaper

[distant sonnet]

Necromancer isn't a thing. It might be. Prolly won't be.
The Necromancer in Heroes Gauntlet was a FF5 reference and little more.

[pale shuttle]

not the void itself, like said by yoshi p in the first day reveal

[bold condor]

What do you mean?

[polar crater]

Does anyone have a clip of the fender's limit break?

[steep coral]

Correlation is most likely causation, so i fail to see the disrepancy

[half phoenix]

Or Sumo

[subtle pasture]

for clarification's sake, DRK's "void" is the Inner Abyss

[crystal arrow]

this is literally wrong, correlation does not equal causation.

[subtle pasture]

fancy terms, yes, but do help on clarifying

[bold condor]

Indeed, DRK uses "abyss" to refer to their powers drawn from emotion, not "void."

[tight marlin]

isnt the quote "Correlation does not equal causation" lol

[teal geyser]

Oh my God I would shoot myself with all the brainless comments about White Mage and Astro in relation to Geo

[silk dragon]

so what if the reapers Mentor is a vigilante and a foil to the brass blades

[gaunt star]

u cant shoot urself, i need someone to troll

[crystal arrow]

god if you think that the saying is "correlation implies causation" I see how you got to this point

[viscid monolith]

I dunno I have brain worms

[half phoenix]

I could have sworn they said back after PotD’s release they didn’t want the WoL to ever be a necromancer since that goes against the connotations of being a hero, since you fight using the dead.

[torpid yoke]

Glad it wasnt called templar

[wet crown]

I'm already retracting my brain when someone brings up Geomancer as a job

[teal geyser]

Correct

[torpid yoke]

That is correct

[steep coral]

DRK utilizes darkness imo, kinda how theres light, but they classified 'Void' as a diff category, DRK is darkness, not void, but yeah, and no alot of times, its usually how we understand things on the why that get told like that

[gaunt star]

it should have been called Dark Paladin even if thats basically Dark Knight

[tight marlin]

aight here me out
Geomancer is just Conjurer who looked at the "Holy" skill tree and was like "No thanks, but i prefer rocks"
The AST part is just looking at the stars, then they're like "no thanks, i prefer the earth" and become a filthy tree hugger

[distant sonnet]

Pretty much. Its a distinctly non-heroic job.

[silk dragon]

the thing is JP text PLD is called Knight

[gaunt star]

yes i know

[distant sonnet]

Now arguments can be made for something akin to the Diablo 2 necromancer. They put the souls of the fallen to rest and then use the meat that was left over. But.. still a difficult sell.

[gaunt star]

but some dont, thats why its fun

[wet crown]

this is getting dumb, really dumb

[subtle pasture]

Hmm, between Eden's Cloud of Darkness being Abyssal Abhorrence, and DRK's Inner Abyss, could it be argued "abyssal" is sort of a meaning for any "artifical" type of Void?

[teal geyser]

Dig up Haurchefant body

[viscid monolith]

Anyway point is Reaper has no direct tie to death or "death magic". It's opening a portal to another dimension flooded with darkness.

[gaunt star]

meat that was left over
ewww

[subtle pasture]

I've not had enough sleep to fully flesh out these tinfoil/shower thoughts

[carmine basin]

I may be late but

[crystal arrow]

I think I'm losing IQ points because of that correlation argument

[tight marlin]

see that's just those necromancers acting like they are good but they still wanna see people being devourered

[gaunt star]

oh no haurchefant is the avatar

[wet crown]

German title of CoD in Eden is literally just Voidsent

[pale shuttle]

thiiss is the most logical conclusion from what we know, good theory! :P

[teal geyser]

You're good

[viscid monolith]

Amd Dark Knight draws its power from the Abyss. Whatever the fuck that is. Is that even a real place or a metaphor?

[half phoenix]

Such a thing probably wouldn’t be called “Necromancer” though and they’d have to come up with something else

[gaunt star]

metaphor probably

[pale shuttle]

their inner self

[subtle pasture]

--that too, fuck.

[distant sonnet]

Hey, nothing wrong with being thrifty.

[distant sonnet]

No like. Diablo 2 literally did this, they called it Necromancer. Nothing about Necromancer implies evil, necessarily.

[bold condor]

I mean, Darkness is ultimately highly-polarized aether in an active state. Strong and passionate emotions likely generate it because most if not all magic is based on belief and aether.

[tight marlin]

"Dad, is that you?"
Dad: >ate the fuck out of this one bbeg

[teal geyser]

The abyss is the emotional pit in yourself :3

[somber storm]

DRK got inner darkness, Reaper got outer darkness

[bold condor]

Whereas Reapers seem to draw their power by actually communing with a voidsent from the Darkness-plagued world of the Thirteenth.

[pale shuttle]

you have a harvard degree in FFXIV chemistry

[gaunt star]

https://tenor.com/view/alisaie-alphinaud-ff14-ffxiv-gif-18131902

[tight marlin]

Fray: You got the emotional depth of a fucking tadpole
Myste:

[somber storm]

Rommy a Mikoto

[distant sonnet]

Its just still a really hard sell. And frankly I'd rather get a caster class that isn't another pet class. We have so much more interesting things we can be doing why do you want to play with dead people.

[bold condor]

The Credible Hulk.

[pastel coyote]

Dis is Cid ?

[ancient portal]

Anyone else imagining Fray giving the Bane speech now?

[gaunt star]

Myste is the childish rebellious tadpole

[subtle pasture]

And what a sick voidsent design it is, even.

[somber storm]

Yensid

[bold condor]

Dis is a Nero. I am a Cid.

[half phoenix]

Potentially yes, potentially no? It’s a random voidsent as of right now. If it’s one that’s the 13th’s fragment of whoever Haurchefant’s soul originally was, we’ll maybe find out.

[torpid yoke]

I believe i can shoot a fire ball at your face, and i do :D

[tight marlin]

okay so here's the real difference between necromancer and reaper
Necromancer wears goth girl caster clothes
Reaper is the goth girl who padded her clothes with 5% armor

[viscid monolith]

This is offensive. Voidsent are people like you and me. Living with wants and needs and hopes and dreams.

[bold condor]

What's gayer, being gay or whatever Rommy and Dis have going on?

[teal geyser]

Dis is smarter than you then got it

[subtle pasture]

WoL's avatar is most certainly going to be Someone Important™️, just the hoops and layers to go through make it hard to guess for now

[gaunt star]

https://twitter.com/biuuu07/status/1393938216604995595?s=20

Random. (@biuuu07)

#FFXIVFanFest
🐰🐰

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[gaunt star]

yeah to consume the fk out of us all, which is reasonable really, its in their nature!!!

[crystal arrow]

Speaking of that voidsent, do we think it's one of the fallen WoLs of the 13th?

[tight marlin]

Literally nero in 5.4 "Yeah yeah we solved dimensional and time travel i bet cid only did like 10% of the work"

[silk dragon]

so what New trance 6.0 might get?

[pale shuttle]

oh god i can see the male bunny edge lords already

[torpid yoke]

azems shard from the 13th COUGH

[bold condor]

They're gonna be so hot.

[gaunt star]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/742643125981413447/843275364674568212/FFXIV_END_Reaper.gif

[half phoenix]

Reaper isn’t a pet class at all though.

[pale shuttle]

^^^

[bold condor]

Fucking break my neck bunny Reaper.

[tight marlin]

Male viera reapers be like: "She rejected me....so i reject my humanity!"
Voidsent avatar: Wat

[viscid monolith]

Voidsent wants: Power and aether
Needs: Power to get more aether
Hopes: To get stronger so getting aether can be easier
Dreams: Of being the strongest and having all the aether

[gaunt star]

ill fanta to male viera just for u this rom

[bold condor]

Snap my spine in half, you lusty leporine.

[crystal arrow]

I mean... it's not a pet class but it does have a pet.

[gaunt star]

[distant sonnet]

Thanks chief.
Not entirely sure at all what that'd have to do with a necromancer, but good to know.

[tight marlin]

MNK: Wait that's our job!

[wet crown]

rommy, you okay girl?

[torpid yoke]

Ok john oliver

[gaunt star]

people are drawing urianger, grahatia and emet together and it's making my heart full

[somber storm]

Also Nero: "Cid so dumb he doesn't have spare parts for the gundam. Luckily I made a new factory to make gundam and I made my own as proof."

[teal geyser]

You know I feel bad for the voidsent. They just want to exist and they can only do so by killing everyone else and destroying the other worlds. I think we should all allow the voidsent to come and eat us because we are insignificant compared to these more powerful entities /s

[subtle pasture]

broke: the hroth reaper artwork
woke: bunny scythe boi

[gaunt star]

i wouldnt call that thing a pet

[bold condor]

Thank you for getting that reference.

[subtle pasture]

and I will absolutely go broke just like my neck in that lion man's fingers

[crystal arrow]

rommy is horny for bunboys confirmed

[pastel coyote]

You're a bun, you don't have humanity to start off

[gaunt star]

are u sure ure not quotting the ascians rn?

[tight marlin]

meanwhile Emet stans be like "this but unironically"

[carmine basin]

https://tenor.com/view/no-horny-please-hit-gif-17148611

[torpid yoke]

i watch a lot of john oliver

[tight marlin]

their humanity went to their hormones

[subtle pasture]

he's so hot okay

[wet crown]

ikr!?

[gaunt star]

kiss him

feel the dog smell

[bold condor]

He looks hella cool.

[subtle pasture]

the avatar would probably slice me to ribbons for trying and I'd die happy

[steep coral]

I wanna know the potential of class archetypes now, since we can be WoL's and WoD's

[tight marlin]

look its that one hrothgar bjelgeo after misjia escaped capture for the 50th time

[bold condor]

I feel nothing for this image but one day there will be giant catwoman reapers.

[gaunt star]

https://twitter.com/ZestyRxiv/status/1393873678752894976?s=20

Zes 🧡💜 ||| WELCOMEBACKSOKEN (@ZestyRxiv)

https://t.co/TkCt6lwkLn

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[teal geyser]

https://c.tenor.com/4lnRiCBkqhoAAAAM/faint-fainting.gif

[crystal arrow]

And I'll be one of them.

fear me.

[subtle pasture]

Yeah male viera sage and fem hroth reaper will be the true 6.X power couple

[somber storm]

Damn, there really are holes in the clothes for both genders

[bold condor]

And when that day comes, so will I I will be ready.

[gaunt star]

https://tenor.com/view/zenos-ureshiiiiii-gif-20599153

[gaunt star]

wtf

[distant sonnet]

Mmm, giant catwomen..

And then they're just miqo'te with auri like tufts of fur because we cannot have nice things in this world.

[carmine basin]

I want fem hroth to be more like panthers/jaguars

[bold condor]

We know what they look like, don't worry about it.

[tight marlin]

watch as the reaper NPC for your job quests is a catgirl who goes "hai there i is your new teacher uwu"
and then the avatar is like "dont mind her she's just too into the role"

[gaunt star]

dont they look like that on the bozjan stuff?

[pale shuttle]

me when reaper was revealed🐊

[crystal arrow]

i'll be honest, if they're like those cat people from archeage, whatever they're called, but buffer i'm fucking game

[carmine basin]

Yeah

[gaunt star]

i was sold on the reaper the moment the au ra used her scythe in the intro

[distant sonnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/675805994416341022/843518475132993536/5af2ad78536815.png Meanwhile, Zenos Reaper be like

[bold condor]

Almost as tall as that Roe, lawdhavemercy.

[subtle pasture]

okay personal hroth headcanons but they could/should actually make helion women and lost women have pronounced physical differences-- considering the former put them in a pedestal and have their "warm, sun-like courts" so, thinner coats? to the lost women being similar stock to their men--

[gaunt star]

ull let them john oliver u too?

[bold condor]

LMAO IMAGINE IF HIS AVATAR WAS FUCKING ELIDIBUS BECAUSE ZODIARK

[dim sigil]

Zenos avatar will be emet

[silk dragon]

would you be suprised if theres a Iceheart trance?

[distant sonnet]

Wouldn't that be so wonderfully fucking shitty? ❤️

[gaunt star]

you think that stops ishikawa?

[tight marlin]

His stand: DO U PREFER WOL OR ME? WOL? OR ME? THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS TO THIS ZENOS! THIS IS THE RULE! YOUR BEST FRIEND NEEDS TO BE ME!

[subtle pasture]

like make it a point that men of either clan look p damn identical but I think women should look diff, -- but eh that's a minor quip I'll take whatever design they finalize

[bold condor]

I love how that fanart from 4.x makes it look like Zenos is being controlled by a sinister Elidibus but Zenos is definitely the worse of the two, turns out.

[tight marlin]

Zenos: Oh dear god i should have read the contract when i picked up this fucking scythe

[distant sonnet]

Hahahaha yeah

[teal geyser]

At risk of mods getting mad I have to share this stupid meme https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/676688347825176576/843520217455788062/video0.mov

[torpid yoke]

damnit cal

[teal geyser]

Okay bye

[weary rampart]

lol

[ancient portal]

Too much work from a development standpoint.

[crystal arrow]

i'm sending in a modmail rn (/s)

[somber storm]

God fucking dammit Cal

[steep coral]

not estinien....

[carmine basin]

Whose tho Cal

[gaunt star]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-slap-anime-mad-student-gif-17423278

[weary rampart]

"The hour has come"

[tight marlin]

we shall speak of your brave deeds to come in the heavensward book

[kind lark]

But who is he?

[weary rampart]

cleanse the thought

[somber storm]

Zenos

[wet crown]

https://c.tenor.com/QhsQeRQypMUAAAAM/slap-bear-slap.gif

[subtle pasture]

it's bc I headcanoned helion women as having thinner coats since they talk so much about keeping them in the queen's court, warm, orbited like suns, -- but that's my dumb ideas as a lore nut and rper

[gaunt star]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/226353385706618880/838535171816292412/hydaelyn_help_us.gif

oh no its avatar emet and zenos

[subtle pasture]

they'll prob maintain how there's really no physical diff in lore between helion and lost, the diff clan skin color palettes is just an element of the character creator

[weary rampart]

when u see sharlayan library is bigger than " great gubal library"

[distant sonnet]

I did love the race reveal. Yoshi P had big "Never fucking ask me for a single goddamn thing ever again" energy.

[gaunt star]

ethys seeing all these books but he cant read any

[subtle pasture]

for example, almost every hrothgar in Bozja is Lost modelled, but some have "Helion" names, etc, etc

[somber storm]

Soon that gonna be a lot of Hrothgar queens and servants rp

[bold condor]

All races should serve.

[wet crown]

...zenos?

[tight marlin]

fem hroths gonna be like "I should have been the real queen of bozja"

[bold condor]

The Queens.

[wet crown]

Oh...ofc.

[somber storm]

Viera queens

[bold condor]

I mean Zenos is a queen too.

[crystal arrow]

let's just say I'll have a new source of income as a femhroth on crystal

[subtle pasture]

Rom's friendship ended with Zenos, now bun bois and hroth women is her friend.

[sterile galleon]

Really looking forward to the hrothgals, that oughta bring in some furries new blood.

[bold condor]

https://tenor.com/view/zenos-yae-galvus-final-fantasy14-ff14-zenos-zenos-kiss-gif-20324187

[distant sonnet]

Meanwhile I'll shock and awe the quicksand with the near unspeakable ability to "be a top male viera" >.>

[tight marlin]

ALL WOMEN.....ARE QUEENS
IF SHE BREATHES, SHE'S A THOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT

Yshtola: I've swear they've been at this for a while

[bold condor]

Zenos is temporary, bunny boys are forever.

[wet crown]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/57f7b7f046d005bacdd8dc973ef2f8d9/aafaf0f9eb112950-2f/s640x960/08c7f5ab1d0b5f7232240c01c5fe448918b0ef66.gif

[tight marlin]

top
male viera
Pick 1

[crystal arrow]

A friend of mine is going to go m viera and i'll go femhroth, we'll both make big gil together

[bold condor]

GOD THE ARM AAAAAAAAAA

[distant sonnet]

Never.

[subtle pasture]

people are into smol dom, just look at the catboys

[somber storm]

Small guys can be tops

[subtle pasture]

rather, the bottom au ra--- shot

[tight marlin]

smol doms

literally every lala in the syndicate

[gaunt star]

zenos will just chill bored

[subtle pasture]

all the dom catboys will go male viera, and so will all the sub au ra men

the circle of switching

[gaunt star]

and they will switch back when they realise they cant wear hats

[somber storm]

Masks

[dawn wave]

can confirm my friend is fantaing their catboy to viera

[tight marlin]

do u think that the first male viera npc will be like magnai?
Overbearing and dominant but probably secretly submissive on the inside and wants to be stepped on?

[ancient portal]

I prefer my glasses over any hats or helmets.

[dim sigil]

Cat-boy Extinction gas

[gaunt star]

tbh as a viera for 6 months, i never felt the need to wear hats

[distant sonnet]

Hats are for suckers anyway.
Glasses are life.

[faint dagger]

imo

if they had time to make male viera they had time to give them hats

[gaunt star]

also im hugely against masks cause they hide facial expressions during stories

[dim sigil]

Ive been one since day 1 fuck hats pls

[gaunt star]

viera with glasses look secsi

[dim sigil]

Yeah

[wet crown]

ngl, I was never bothered by the lack of hats on Hrothgar anyway, since I dislike most of them to begin with
accessoires are more important

[dim sigil]

But hats ff12 judge helmets sniff

[gaunt star]

[ancient portal]

Male Viera Sage with Glasses incoming.

[weary rampart]

time to go full Sharlayan scholar glamour

[dim sigil]

I tried going back to cat girl or lizard girl but I just didn't like it as much as bunny even though I could wear hats

[distant sonnet]

All the hat you ever need.

[gaunt star]

i find it funny they used viera for both reaper and sage and they dont wear anything ontheir head

[dim sigil]

We were laughing when the horthgar didnt have headgear in the artwork

[gaunt star]

https://tenor.com/view/how-you-doin-joey-smile-friends-how-are-you-gif-8259375

[rare sinew]

Just rewatching the vod. There's this shot of YoshiP waving while in tears and oh god, my fucking dead soul

[plain plover]

mean the hrothgar for reaper?

[gaunt star]

they used reaper male viera in an artwork

[rare sinew]

My cold dead heart. god damn, it hurts

[distant sonnet]

Oh god Viera are gonna look so good in Sage gear.

[wet crown]

isn't sage's "hat" just another circlet?

[gaunt star]

but hes hrothgar too

[plain plover]

oh right

[gaunt star]

ye but apparently doesnt work for viera?

[plain plover]

was setting up lala sage glam but yeah moving to aura t hough most of it should fit

[gaunt star]

tho female viera in sage af looked pretty cool

[plain plover]

ignore the inconsistent colours will be fixing later

[wet crown]

Give it time. Circlets are super small additions and I can't think of any we can't use ingame rn

legit the whole exarchic set is littered with them and all work

[steep coral]

Wait he was in tears? dam, ill have to watch, saw that people were sad and i dont know the context, cuz i fell asleep watching

not out of boredom, but i was really tired*

[gaunt star]

wasnt he in tears cause of sokens cancer?

[kind lark]

Yeah

[subtle pasture]

Hm? There's male Viera Reaper art?

[gaunt star]

man i woke up just in time to catch the ending of fanfestival but i ended up crying

[wet crown]

No, the male art is a lancer

[steep coral]

I didnt make it that far, i remember watching the part about ishi and the 36hrs of overtime, but i dont remember much after that

[gaunt star]

oh it was a lancer?

woops, but to be fair it was 6 am u cant blame me ~

[subtle pasture]

this render, I assume?

[wet crown]

I can. Now make me dinner.

[subtle pasture]

think that's el-- oh

[gaunt star]

thats au ra

or something else i guess xD

[subtle pasture]

the trailer is an au ra, this guy's not her

[wet crown]

He mistook the male viera concept art with a spear for a scythe

[gaunt star]

yeah that looks like elezen tbh

[subtle pasture]

like how it's catboy trailer, viera art, lalafell render for Sage, bc

[gaunt star]

yeah what taco said

[clever flume]

i wanna say that's elezen but its hard to tell

the lankiness fits em

[subtle pasture]

I thiiiiink that's the ear tip next to his eye and it just looks smaller bc the angle

[clever flume]

actually pretty sure its elezen ye, can sort of see the ears

[bold condor]

elezen boyo

[subtle pasture]

au ra trailer, hrothgar art, elezen render, well lots of mixin' it up, 'least.

[gaunt star]

hoping the mentor is an au ra

[subtle pasture]

~~DNC was viera all three last time ~~

[gaunt star]

im just here to petition for Sokens LaHee to be added to the orchestrarion.

give me the roll YoshiP

[kind lark]

Doesn't the trailer char change races when it enters that rage mode?

[clever flume]

no

[gaunt star]

someone modded it into their game xd

[clever flume]

she still au ra when in avatar mode

[subtle pasture]

her horns and tail don't show through the Reaper cloak, but yeah, still Au Ra

very diappoint

we know why hroth and viera were both just the artworks of the new jobs

[gaunt star]

does the piano performance from day 1 have orchestrions?

[clever flume]

still pretty distinctly au ra, just lost the horns and tail like pash said

[gaunt star]

[ancient portal]

Imagine if Lalas grew up when they did it lol.

[subtle pasture]

I'm gonna assume there's a standard model for each race/gender for the reaper shroud, just maching your player's skin/face?

will deffo learn more at the media tour

[clever flume]

maybe like demon hunter's form?

[subtle pasture]

yeah, my brain went to necro's bone mode in ESO for some reason

same diff

[gaunt star]

media tour is post-summer right?

[subtle pasture]

October-ish, it's where there's a gap in the schedule

[drowsy belfry]

They're looking to do it between Sept-Nov

[gaunt star]

[gaunt star]

oh... they showed the e8s cutscene in the piano performance eh

september media tour, october benchmark

[drowsy belfry]

Otherway around

Benchmark would come out before media tour

[subtle pasture]

Same time, probably. Benchmark footage will come from the media tour probs

rather, since they can't do an actual tour, merging the two would make sense

[gaunt star]

[drowsy belfry]

Nah Benchmark is there to tease new actions as well, Media Tour will just show off everything

The only reason they got merged in ShB was cause Benchmark got delayed

[subtle pasture]

I'd hope the EW benchmark will show your WoL as Reaper in some part, so they can model the shroud in it

[gaunt star]

yknow. if e12 wasnt a door boss
or e8 was one
e8>e12

i miss e8

[subtle pasture]

--I forget, did SB benchmark have mnk and sam bits for WoL

[drowsy belfry]

Also just saying if they've made a system where they can have a seperate model take on your features, they can totally show an unmasked Azem using your facial features

[gaunt star]

im p sure sb had wol as mnk then sam in kugane

[drowsy belfry]

Yeah it did, Monk in Gyr Abania, Samurai in Othard

[subtle pasture]

Neat, so it could do PLD bc EW, then Reaper to model out the diff shrouds

[dawn wave]

didn’t they do this with fray/esteem

[gaunt star]

then rdm helping the wol in gyr abania

[subtle pasture]

I can HOPE

[plucky palm]

but those were derplander jobs

[drowsy belfry]

Nah, Fray is just 1:1 Fray's model with a dark effect

[subtle pasture]

-right. damn.

[drowsy belfry]

And also Sid's Chaosbringer

[subtle pasture]

Femra reaper and catboy Sage will prob be in the benchmark,

[gaunt star]

it'll have zenos as reaper maybe... and then alphianud doing sagey things?

[drowsy belfry]

OH WAIT YOU MEAN WHEN yeah okay

[dawn wave]

no, but you meet esteem as an exact copy of you in a cutscene— yeah

[dire flume]

It would make lots of sense, especially of it's a Xaela with all the thing about death

[subtle pasture]

catboy GNB and bun DNC were in ShB's,

[gaunt star]

"catboy sage"
this is lala erasure

[drowsy belfry]

SO yeah they did, but in case of Azem it'd be harder if you're not a Hyur

[subtle pasture]

the ones from the job trailers

[crystal arrow]

the reaper transformation reminds me a bit of japanese yokai, tbh

[gaunt star]

lala in the cgi art B)

[orchid plinth]

Hey I thought 5.55 is the last patch

[drowsy belfry]

Yes MSQ wise

[subtle pasture]

last content patch for ShB, yeah

[orchid plinth]

Ah

[subtle pasture]

gonna be more for hotfixes and QoL's, however

[gaunt star]

other patches will be tomestone cap and qols

[drowsy belfry]

Cross DC

[gaunt star]

aye

[plucky palm]

kill all lalas

[kind lark]

Will the dc travel be region or all?

[subtle pasture]

so buckle up, I expect everyone to have the 50 Dalriada runs title by the media tour

[gloomy shale]

2 weeks until Bozja patch?

[subtle pasture]

hup, hup, hup

[plucky palm]

1

[gaunt star]

i'll kill you first

[plucky palm]

i think

[subtle pasture]

25th, so 9 days now

[gloomy shale]

ah nice

final weapon glow will be in it?

[crystal arrow]

yes

[plucky palm]

i'm just on rank 11, fuck

[crystal arrow]

you don't need to be r15 to go into zadnor fyi

[plucky palm]

i hope pld gets save the queen

[crystal arrow]

but if you want to hit r25 it'd certainly give you a boost

[subtle pasture]

Oh yeah, r15 is for Delubrum Sav unlock, not story?

[crystal arrow]

yep

They said way back when they first talked about zadnor that r15 would not be required to enter

[gloomy shale]

There gonna be a new zone with more CE's?

[steep coral]

yupp

[subtle pasture]

Aye, the Zadnor plateau

they showed screens of some of the new CE's and one of the duels, even

god I hope that Inferno recolor isn't Dabog

[steep coral]

Man, and i still havent done DR savage yet x.x'

[kind lark]

They also show a screen inside the raid as well

[subtle pasture]

Technically that's included in "some of the new CE's" -- but yeah, Zadnor's equivalent of Lacus Litore- The Dalriada

[gloomy shale]

last question, will there be new umm bozjan abilities or w.e I can't remember what they are called

[crystal arrow]

new essences and lost actions, yes

[gloomy shale]

hmm maybe those will make the entry of DR savage a little easier

[plucky palm]

what are gonna be the requierements to get the last upgrade?

[crystal arrow]

Yeah, they said that was the intent - some of them will make it feasible to run DRS with only 24 people

[crystal arrow]

We have no idea yet. Just that it will be hard the first time, easier for later weapons.

[plucky palm]

doing savage unsynced 30 times?

[crystal arrow]

There's no unsync for DRS

[plucky palm]

old savages

[crystal arrow]

Ah, I doubt it

[plucky palm]

only an asshole would do that

but again, they made us do the crystal tower 15 and hw/ivalice raids 18 times

[pulsar current]

that would be fun AF tho

[weary rampart]

looks like korean is deciphering things
https://youtu.be/Ae1rwbEC-Ag

[pulsar current]

dr is just 6 raids back to back to back

[strange summit]

I've pre-ordered the physical collector edition but I can't find the pre-order items code D:

[plain plover]

wait is this some old gear someone is pointing out is related to the library?

[plucky palm]

unsynced? i mean synced

imagine if they make us do savage b/a/o synced 30 times

[echo orbit]

do you get pre-order item code with the collector box?

i thought it was just the physical stuff

[strange summit]

I don't know :o

[weary rampart]

apparently theres some connection

[echo orbit]

wait did you order the collector box or something else?

[weary rampart]

physical should have the code in card form