retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[gaunt star]

When did he say that? Monka

[idle spade]

He said it will be limited

[dreamy bane]

his translator said that on stage yesterday

[gaunt star]

I wouldnt mind if it was cross dc for dungeons. But all other content no ty pls

[coarse pond]

We probably won't have cross-datacenter PF, but if you swap to other DC you will see their listings

[tight latch]

In na say it's 800k, in jp it's an easy 500k

[gaunt star]

Lol

[hasty totem]

What's the current BiS food?

[coarse pond]

They might restrict marketboard though, nothing was said about it

[tight latch]

Elemental, at least. Dunno about the rest tbh

[idle spade]

There will be instances to play in DC travel

[coarse pond]

@tight latch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7T2IXJW5iE

[rain onyx]

assuming you don't need a specific stat like Skill Speed/Spell Speed for a GCD or Piety for MP, smoked chicken is the general go-to.

[dreamy bane]

ima rewarch twitch where he started talking about DC travel

[idle spade]

But noone know how it will look yes

[coarse pond]

Do i need travelling Visa to visit that market?

[hasty totem]

hmm

[tight latch]

Ohhhh

[graceful sphinx]

hey guys, can you place orders on the sqex store??? i cant order merch 😦 (I'm from eu, germany to be precise)

[gaunt star]

Smoked chicken, popoto in some scenarios, fettucine, mistland... Spinach?

[tight latch]

Zefir also, no?

[idle spade]

Im actually looking at it again all he said is it will be limited

[rain onyx]

#kupo-bot-spam message

Aether/Cactuar actually looks cheaper than chocobo.

[idle spade]

The translator said duty, but Yoshi P only talked about content

[willow river]

I’m going to have to collect a lot of skimpy on an alt now

[untold tide]

It would be very nice if Square Enix put english subtitle on their trailer video. So deaf person like me can understand what they are saying.... 😩 Ah well. Cant be help.

[dreamy bane]

ye translator said about that you could complete duty together, a lot of people took that as PF or DF

[idle spade]

The store might be kind of dying rn, I"d wait a bit

[untold gull]

it's been dying the whole day

[idle spade]

What translator and Yoshi P said for that aspect was a bit different tbh

[untold tide]

tomorrow

[dreamy bane]

completion editor is sold out i think but pre order mite still be avaliable, took me 40mins to get mine

[untold gull]

yeah, live letter is in day 2 fanfest

[pastel coyote]

Stupid question: until when can we pre-order ?

[obsidian pagoda]

now?

[mortal oxide]

Has anyone noticed that Old Sharlayan has large water features of a lady pouring water--which is typically how The Star card is drawn in Tarot

[untold tide]

Endwalker is available for preorder

[obsidian pagoda]

oh until... well until the 19 Nov I presume

[pastel coyote]

Thank

[obsidian pagoda]

If you don't preorder in the next 6mo, that's all on you

[pastel coyote]

[graceful sphinx]

well i am able to get to the checkout, but it says my card is not valid for purchase and when i try paypal it says order is cancelled.

funny enough, i was able to order the CE with it an hour ago???

[hasty totem]

Good. Being crafters on Chocobo is sufferring

[graceful sphinx]

thats thaliak actually

[idle spade]

YoshiP talks about latency and that bbecause of that many things wont be possible, which the translator does not mention

[dreamy bane]

ahh rip 😦

even with latency player can use vpn or something. I still would love to do PF with other DC

[idle spade]

He talks a bit fast though, so I am not sure if I understand things the right way

[tight latch]

@coarse pond oh right, we found a house that glitched a french city inside it, wanna see

[idle spade]

Rusty Japanese... But I suspect it might be limited towards things such as fates etc/// I played from EU on JP datacenter for a bit and it was not that bad for normal content, but he mentions that the problem mainly lays in actually transfering the character data temporarily

[gaunt star]

Cant wait for oceania containment

[graceful sphinx]

imaging wanting to throw money at SQEX but they wont let you q_q

[untold gull]

[gaunt star]

Go on, git
https://c.tenor.com/913R4CKl2-IAAAAM/modern-family-spray.gif

[idle spade]

Imagine wanthing to throw money at squeenix but you already did and now you are poor

[graceful sphinx]

yeah

[idle spade]

But Id just wait a bit tbh

[kind lark]

There's an Ardbert, gimmie

[gaunt star]

Do you think reapers will dominate limsa lominsa or sages will

[untold tide]

Pity Australia cant get those Figure.

[gaunt star]

I think reaper got a lot more hype

[untold tide]

I am very sad

[rocky pilot]

There's lot of real world imagery of a woman pouring water. With meaning from fertility to drought prevention lol

[sage wraith]

So long as i can afford rice LOL

[idle spade]

200 for a CE already was a lot e.e

[open verge]

It’s Thaliak from the12 deities

[sour frost]

question: if im still on free tiral and waiting for endwalker release so i could buy the complete edition can i still preorder the endwalker?

[soft gyro]

yeah

[open verge]

Yep

[gaunt star]

I wonder if theres gonna be mini calamities in the different cities... Fire in limsa and ice in... Wherever estinien is

[sour frost]

thanks bro im going to save up

[gaunt star]

Then again they wont permanently change the main cities so nvm

[open verge]

What’s the levels for the endwalker preorder earring

[soft gyro]

to 80

[gaunt star]

30% below 80

[open verge]

Isn’t that the same as bozja?

[obsidian pagoda]

You have to go to a proxy shop like CDJapan or AitaiKuji

[gaunt star]

i shouldve waited before i finished maxing classes

[void ocean]

Bozja is 10%

[open verge]

Ohhh

[void ocean]

Also preorder one works from level 1, bozja from 71

[neon viper]

This might just get me through the mid70s hump I'm on

[pseudo umbra]

where do i preorder the ps4 version?

[soft gyro]

on the PS Store

https://store.playstation.com/product/EP0082-PPSA02955_00-C0EX04SET0000000

[dapper abyss]

does anyone know if/when we're getting a job action trailer?

[soft gyro]

Not today, but probably later, the closer we get to endwalker

[pastel venture]

did they show any images/artwork of female hrothgar?

[soft gyro]

No

[pastel venture]

😔

[soft gyro]

They said they are going to work on it.

[neon viper]

Wonder if fem Hroth will be the last

[soft gyro]

They said they won't add any more races

[tidal mauve]

i dont know if i wanna see female hrothgar

[open verge]

I do it would make bozja hilarious

I hyped up female Hrothgar so much that I think I’m actually gonna play it

[untold tide]

ah i see. Thank

[pastel venture]

i'm playing it 100%

idc if it looks like a skooma addict from oblivion

[coral kite]

Man remmeber when we used to say male viera and fem hroth weren't gonna happen

[pastel venture]

i'm playing it

[coral kite]

[kind lark]

I'm tempted to play as a bunny boy

[open verge]

Malr bun makes me think fem viera isn’t getting new hairstyles

[kind lark]

Whats a fem viera?

[hasty totem]

https://twitter.com/memberial/status/1393520402102571010

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Might as well swap in the bgm, S-E.

[runic mason]

never heard of them

[rugged hare]

So just one question; did they say if Viera are going to wear hats finally, or at least get more hats available to them?

[neon viper]

Don't believe so

[rugged hare]

God damn it . I can't justify changing unless they can.

[kind lark]

All I know is boi bunnies

[neon viper]

Big reveal was male Viera 6.0(?) and fem hroth in the works. Hopefully once they're done with the models they can go back on hats and hairstyles

[kind lark]

By in the works does it mean in or after ew launch?

[gaunt star]

so the reaper uses lnc gear, so it can wear savage ? exarchic ?

[neon viper]

They were sorta vague but didn't sound to be ready by 6.0

[shy flax]

It shares Maiming gear with lancer

[gaunt star]

and does this mean that in 6.0 an exarchic scythe will be added to craft ?

[untold tide]

should be

[neon viper]

It sounded male Viera were 6.0 tho

[gaunt star]

i’m gonna hibernate

[untold tide]

Since we get Reaper quest at lvl 70

[shy flax]

More practically, an Augmented Cryptlurker’s Scythe will cost 600 Poetics

So just buy that instead

[gaunt star]

i see that’s what i was wondering

[uneven wren]

Anyone got a link to full piano concert? I had to sleepy

[dreamy bane]

reaper will share maiming gear so only thing you need is weapon with your current drg set

[odd yoke]

or save savage books

[gaunt star]

augmented crypt will be the tome gear huh

[shy flax]

Yep

[odd yoke]

Yes

[gaunt star]

i mean it’s 6 monThs from now, that’s not a bad idea at all

[shy flax]

Have we decided which tower the dungeon is yet?

[open verge]

The thavnir one

[amber loom]

What are the stats on the pre order earring?

[cinder glade]

one with the alien hive in it

[gaunt star]

yo the trailer goes so hard i really feel like i’m in ff like i know these characters personally

[shy flax]

Ah! So the beast tribe within is the new elephant one?

[odd yoke]

Stats scale with you as you level

[open verge]

It has matanga in the dungeon you can see it in the art

[dreamy bane]

i redeemed mine via mogstation an hour ago and havent got moogle mail yet for earrings

[gaunt star]

mark my words i’m going from 70 to 80 in 8 hours

[dreamy bane]

heard it take a while

[untold tide]

Yeah. As far as we see. We only show one tribe. But not other two tribe.

[cinder glade]

not even got a code yet

[untold tide]

I think we will find out who other two tribes.

[shy flax]

I just couldn’t tell the tribe from the art I saw - I forgot about the Matanga and assumed it was like Vath or something

[gaunt star]

how do you all think reaper will be with dps ? it def doesn’t matter but how good do you think it will be considering the last time zenos used a weapon it was strongest melee

[untold tide]

Dont those earring will be available on day EW released?

[shy flax]

People have the earrings already

[untold tide]

Oh really?

[silk cape]

have you tried logging out of the game

[obsidian pagoda]

They showed us the little rabbit tribe also, the Loporrit

[shy flax]

Relog and then force a mail update

[untold tide]

ahhh. That is the tribe?

I saw those picture but i am not sure because I am deaf IRL and there is no subtitle to tell me.

[obsidian pagoda]

That and the Matangas yes

[shy flax]

The magus sisters are also a “beast tribe”, evidently

[hallow lodge]

I got my mail like half an hour

[untold tide]

So i dont understand what Chrisopter were saying.

[dreamy bane]

oh i will do that now 😮

logged out and logged in, havent got a mail yet aha D:

[untold tide]

I think your mail is in backlog queue

It happen

[dreamy bane]

ok thanks hopefully soon today 😄

[cinder glade]

yup, mine still says pending :/

[obsidian pagoda]

There's probably thousands of people also waiting for their mail so not much to do but wait until the server processes it all

[cinder glade]

early access code is like getting a ps5

[frozen wharf]

In what part of these festivals do they usually show the new job actions? Is it usually in the keynote address?

[cinder glade]

usually a live letter closer to release

[crystal arrow]

no, it's usually a few months before release

[frozen wharf]

oh alright

thanks 😄

[cinder glade]

6 months is a long time to set in stone how some classes may play, especially with the rumored smn/sch rework

[idle spade]

Anyone have earrings already?

[frozen wharf]

Yeah understandable, I am hoping to see something decent made to paladins, just cuz it was the class featured in the trailer

[sterile galleon]

...I've made my decision.

I shall become Sage, a boibun healslut

[cinder glade]

well drk was shb poster boy and we got the coolest shit ever and its completely automatic that doesnt add anything to gameplay

[crystal arrow]

I was holding out for femhroth but ngl I may actually go male viera till they release :p only male race that looks good to me

[gaunt star]

pre order has no time limit right ?

for digital

[vivid pivot]

Name checks out...

[frozen wharf]

"and its completely automatic that doesnt add anything to gameplay" I didn't understand this part

[vivid pivot]

Right.

[dense flower]

living shadow

[frozen wharf]

ooh

[wary perch]

Preorder expired after 23rd Nov

[sour frost]

nice

that means i could saving up

[sterile galleon]

When to expect the benchmark though

ShB's released on May 23rd, launch June 28th/July 2nd

So we'll probably have to wait until October then to start designing our boibuns.

[rare sinew]

Did they say a Nov release for EW? I hear the scuttlebug is Nov but that seems... long

[crystal arrow]

Yes, nov 23rd - early access on the 19th

[sterile galleon]

At least 5 months of waiting

[rare sinew]

Pain

But. Near my bday.. so... HMMMMMMMMMM GUESS IM TAKING SOME DAYS OFF

[crystal arrow]

us american ppl are lucky because it releases right before thanksgiving

[sterile galleon]

Start of exam period in uni over here

[lucid sedge]

yeah it's right before exams for me too

that being said I think it's safe to say I'll be spending the christmas break enjoying myself

[unborn basalt]

if i preorder the digital collector's edition on steam, i get 3 in game itmes? mount,minion, weapon

[vivid pivot]

Yeah. Not sure when you get them, but just make sure you play through Steam currently.

[lucid sedge]

you get all the preorder items and the digital collectors items

make sure to buy it on the platform you bought the basegame though

[jade mauve]

Went a bit nuts on the SQEX store earlier and spent nigh on £300 😢

[crystal arrow]

if they stick to the same schedule the first wing of raids should release right before xmas so 👀

[unborn basalt]

and will i get the earring and the minion if i preorder just the standard edition as well?

[lucid sedge]

that's gonna be with the vagrant story figures lmao

[jade mauve]

Yes

[vivid pivot]

Yes. Those are preorder bonuses. Doesn't matter which version you buy, as long as you preorder.

[jade mauve]

Also HYPE is real

[unborn basalt]

and what about this early access? what's the window? as in, is there a date before which if you preorder you get the early access?

[viscid monolith]

Living Shadow is just cool. What do people want?

[cinder glade]

quick question, will the elemental armour include reaper on release

[jade mauve]

As long as you preorder, so I guess you get the early access as long as you order before the 23rd

[gaunt star]

Yknow
Zenos' left arm looks pretty covered up in the trailer and they didn't explicitly show it to us
maybe instead of having a voidsent avatar, he's fused(?) with one and its fucked with his arm/part of his torso

[unborn basalt]

wait. i am confused. does endwalker include the sb and shb expansions?

[cinder glade]

no

[jade mauve]

No it doesn’t

[unborn basalt]

oh. good

[cinder glade]

'complete edition' will probs be updated to include shb after release

[kindred rampart]

https://youtu.be/4JCPdQrL-ng

[lucid sedge]

complete edition came with ShB for me

[jade mauve]

It already includes shadowbringers doesn’t it

Or did you mean endwalker

[sour frost]

if i

• buy the base game (starter pack, same as free trial but without restrictions e.g. pvp, trading, marker)
• buy endwalker AFTER it's out.

will i get the other expansions?

[rain onyx]

Endwalker will include the previous expansions

[jade mauve]

No

[lucid sedge]

was looking at the digital collectors edition on PSN and it said it comes with the expansions but not the base game

[wary perch]

Endwalker should include SB and shb, all new expansion include pass expansion except the base game

[crystal arrow]

Buying endwalker will include previous expansions, yes.

[jade mauve]

Hasn’t before

[gaunt star]

it does

[rain onyx]

It always has

[edgy birch]

The complete edition has been phased out since the free trial has been added

[lucid sedge]

they kinda have to provide the previous expansions bc you can't play EW without the other 3 lmao

[rain onyx]

Stormblood came with HW, and SHB came with HW/SB

[edgy birch]

And yeah, since Stormblood that's been the case, only buy the latest expansion

[sour frost]

so POing the endwalker will get only the endwalker or will i still get the other expansions?

[unborn basalt]

so whether i have the expansions or not, i am still paying 40$ for the new one?

[odd yoke]

Yea

[unborn basalt]

F

[jade mauve]

Oh fair enough

[rain onyx]

You get the other expansions, but can’t play them until Endwalker release

[lucid sedge]

complete edition is the basegame and lates xpac in a bundle basically

[sour frost]

its feel like im buying twice

[wary perch]

Not really

[jade mauve]

I always thought you had the complete edition and the endwalker only

[edgy birch]

Complete edition is phased out

[viscid monolith]

Whoever is buying each expansion individually is wasting money. New expansion always comes with all previous expansions.

[wary perch]

It's just old expansion come free with new expansion

[jade mauve]

Fair enough

[edgy birch]

Because the base game and Heavensward are free

[wary perch]

To prevent new player being overwhelmed with old expansion purchase

[unborn basalt]

mate, that's basically 80% of this community

[edgy birch]

I mean, I'm playing them as they come out so yeah, I'm buying them one at a time

[jade mauve]

This

[edgy birch]

Just the nature of the beast

[wary perch]

By your logic, we should wait till the last expansion for the bang of the buck

[sudden bolt]

When is the live letter

[viscid monolith]

Ya if you're playing as they come out you aren't wasting money obviously. I didn't think I'd have to specify that.

I'm talking about new players, because by the sounds of it they don't have Stormblood or Shadowbringers.

[sour frost]

im still on free tiral so yeha

[gaunt star]

[jade mauve]

Well it’s down to two different options though really isn’t it. Do you want to join in on the new expansion goodness or do you want to save £10

[viscid monolith]

Guys I know it's fun to one up someone but at least read the context

[unborn basalt]

so is there any news about when the early access will be?

[edgy birch]

Okay, so if you think you'll hit 50 before Endwalker, and you probably will, you may end up needing to buy Shadowbringers? I mean, it's six months

A week before the 23rd generally

[wary perch]

I understand the context but sometimes people will take it differently

[viscid monolith]

Early access is always the weekend before launch

[gaunt star]

@unborn basalt 19th November

[edgy birch]

Weekend I mean, I misremember

[wary perch]

EA is 19th

[gaunt star]

They already revealed it during FanFest

[thorn pecan]

I can def see the mask now

[viscid monolith]

Moonfillia

[restive shuttle]

So I had obligations last night and missed the stream. Would it be worth it to watch the whole thing or is there a good summary already posted?

[gaunt star]

Venat queen

[viscid monolith]

#translations-and-liveletters

[thorn pecan]

Can I marry her....

[edgy birch]

But yeah, six months is a LONG time to wait for the expansions. I'd personally buy it but I'm not worried about saving 20-30 bucks over six months, right?

convenience fee and what not

[gaunt star]

@thorn pecan Ofc not

Unless the earring does something again

Like an xp bonus

[edgy birch]

Oh it will

They already said as much

[viscid monolith]

The TLDW is Reaper, male Viera, Sharlayan, Moon Zone(s), full trailer, uuuhhh

[gaunt star]

It does give exp bonus yoshi p mentioned it

[dreamy bane]

30% xp boost up to level 80

[viscid monolith]

They showed dungeons

[unborn basalt]

do you think the dps queue time will go down the drain now? i mean it's already tanked to begin with

[gaunt star]

Oh wow missed that part

[edgy birch]

https://www.akhmorning.com/news/digital-fanfest-2021-keynote/

[gaunt star]

creecher

[restive shuttle]

I saw a meme where people were saying queues are going to just be paladins and reapers. Why paladins

[thorn pecan]

WUT

[gaunt star]

Don’t forget Sage

[viscid monolith]

It's the poster job for the expansion

[gaunt star]

Pld, rpr, sage

[kind lark]

SAG

[restive shuttle]

Oh sweet. Guess I need to catch up on everything and watch the trailer. I’m still in HW

[viscid monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310024355989946370/843027673050513418/b2610ab.jpg

[gaunt star]

Lol

[restive shuttle]

Yes that meme.

[obsidian smelt]

I can’t wait for reaper 🤤

[gaunt star]

Reaper will be called RAP?

kayn LMAO

[viscid monolith]

I'm a basic bitch so I'll be Paladin and try to main tanks

[lunar oar]

Can someone take out trailer's song from my head please

[untold tide]

I think i will keep play as SMN

[gaunt star]

I'll finish story as BLM then after 6.0 ill become a reaper main

[viscid monolith]

I love lawful good characters

[gaunt star]

Bye bye sorcery

[untold tide]

I hope live letter will provide some infomation on new Pet system.

for SMN and SCH

[gaunt star]

Ill even fantasia into a male Bunny until 6.1

[topaz river]

I’m a Paladin main anyway lol

This is my time

[kind lark]

why until 6.1?

[crystal arrow]

I'd guess they're referring to femhroth

they kinda suggested that they may come in EW as well, but later on

[gaunt star]

@kind lark Because Female Au Ra are the supreme race

minion doesnt seem to do anything (only runs around with mameteer?) so ig it'll interact witht he CE one

[wary perch]

lol
Good luck to the optimist

[gaunt star]

it do be looking at me doe

[worn cairn]

Is Soken high in this fest or he got a punishment? 🤣

[wary perch]

He is high

[gaunt star]

Hes high on punishment

[untold tide]

I think Soken lost the bet

[sour frost]

so i will lay out the buying plan
-in august i will buy the Starter pack (or maybe when the sale comes around november)
-then i will PO the endwalker

i hope this will works

[crystal arrow]

dude people were optimistic about male viera and everyone said they were crazy but here we are huh

[sour frost]

or maybe i should PO now then activate it later when i buy the starter

[lyric hedge]

forgive the question, but i didn't understand the Cross play function they showed

[worn cairn]

What bet? XD

[wary perch]

He can have a bad vocal but people still cheer for him for the performance

[untold tide]

Dunno. Bad enough that Soken have to sing Lahee.

[lyric hedge]

i mean, you can play with everyone in any server?

[crystal arrow]

seems so, yes

[untold tide]

and wear moogle head

[wary perch]

And it only come at the new expansion

[gaunt star]

@lyric hedge every server of every dc

[lyric hedge]

so its no bound whatsoever

[wary perch]

And when I suggest male viera in new expansion

[untold tide]

I think there is some limit.

[gaunt star]

Oh come on Male Viera was bound to happen, Yoshi P caves it too often

[lyric hedge]

i mean, it would be too good to be true

[odd yoke]

It will probably be similar to world visit but with more limits

[gaunt star]

i’m sorry, what day is early access

I was expecting them for 7.0 tho

[lyric hedge]

4 days earlier

[untold tide]

The latency if US is playing with JAP/EU/OCE.

[crystal arrow]

?? yes but they said they wanted to release both but male viera was further along, and they said that they'd release femhroth "when they were ready" so that can very well mean within EW, given how long EW will be

[odd yoke]

There has been data mined text options for data centre visit

[gaunt star]

19th got it

@gaunt star 19th

@odd yoke well duh 5.58 has DCTravel

[lyric hedge]

so if i got friends on a NA server and im on a EU we can do raids togheter?
is that what is supposed to bring?

[gaunt star]

Yes

[odd yoke]

You can travel to NA

[wary perch]

EW will have the same patch cycle as previous expansion though. Why you expecting them to be long?

[lyric hedge]

well, that's some very nice news

[untold tide]

But but.,....the ping.

Crazy ping

[lyric hedge]

i got the strongest connection i can possibly have
i do not fear the ping.

[gaunt star]

Honestly ill use it to visit people, i refuse to do content with 300ms

[untold tide]

^^

[lyric hedge]

its good for me cause
i dont really like my server atm

[untold tide]

Peach, Sathona.

[gaunt star]

Battle content anyway

[unborn basalt]

think they can top off ShB's storyline?

[next quarry]

yes

[lyric hedge]

yes

[untold tide]

Judge from trailer. Yeah

[gaunt star]

Yes

[lyric hedge]

definitely

[odd yoke]

The same writer has Shadowbringers is writing endwalker

So yeah

[untold tide]

Really? Then we are in good hand.

[gaunt star]

Also the new first brood dragon just gasm

[crystal arrow]

Vrtra is pretty cool looking :o

[untold tide]

Just double check. We have not meet that new dragon in trailer ingame yet?

[lyric hedge]

nop

[open verge]

Azdaja is where

[untold tide]

Ok good. I thought i miss something.

[crystal arrow]

No, we haven't met Vrtra or Azdaja yet

[untold tide]

azdaja?.....

[gaunt star]

I remember we were talking about the first brood dragons when Tiamat re appeared, so its nice seeing another sibling

[odd yoke]

!faq firstbrood

[lusty shadow]

The 7 children of Midgardsomr making the First Brood.

[regal lantern]

Will this birth the Dawn of dragoons 3.0?

[untold tide]

Ooh. Thank, Vinyl.

[gaunt star]

Reapers use fallen dragoons as stands

[pastel coyote]

Reaper use voidsent

[tired garnet]

with all the references with FFIV, do we expect the litteral Giant of Bab-il

[lyric hedge]

also, thanks yea
its very nice to get this type of news

[wary perch]

That's healer stand

[regal lantern]

Cause Dragoon order ended with 3.0

But now it may return again? As a new breed of dragon riding warriors

[sudden scroll]

If reaper uses dragoons as stand, does this mean they're cursed to being floor tanks too?

[lyric hedge]

Dragoon can possibly become Dragon Knights

[gaunt star]

Dragon slayers more like Dragon Riders

[lyric hedge]

the good thing is that Reapers use DRG armor, so that makes it at least a frail dps

[tidal mauve]

calling all spider riders

[untold tide]

"IMMA FIRIN MAH' LAZER!!!!"........This is the FIRST thing that come to my mind when i see this for first time. ahahah. Am i only one who think of that?

[lyric hedge]

honestly same

that, and also
WHAT HELLSPAWN ARE YOU

[gaunt star]

Also that CGI Stardiver was secsi

[pastel coyote]

They are going to scale down the stat but look the pal still OS the 1st boss of amaurot

[untold tide]

Ain't that thing that you fight first boss in Amaurot dungeon?

[gaunt star]

Pretty sure the burn had "abyss worms"

[lyric hedge]

could be
but its not a worm

[untold tide]

Yeah, Saki. That what i thought.

[lyric hedge]

its more of a Chinese Dragon like creature

[crystal arrow]

It's the same model as the first boss of Amaurot

[untold tide]

Remnant from Final Day that happen live on moon.

[gaunt star]

Its Zodiark's Kitten

[pastel coyote]

huh not really dragon, if anything it's close to Barong

[lyric hedge]

also, where can we see the new lvl 90 skills?

[gaunt star]

They didn't reveal them

[lyric hedge]

oh i see, mb

[untold tide]

Not yet. Perhaps closer to Novemeber

[pastel coyote]

Did they plan to show the skill in day 2 ?

[gaunt star]

Probably around September-October

For Shadowbringers they dropped the Job action trailer a month before early access

[simple axle]

is tiamat kill

[blazing hearth]

ShB's Job actions were showcased the 24 of May 2019
ShB released the 2nd of July 2019 so yeah around a month

[minor trellis]

did anyone clip soken singing the raktika theme??? i need it

[odd yoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/271160012431294464/843076731837087784/evR8l5TCTG.webm

[rough geyser]

please tell me the collector's edition will be restocked..

[open verge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBt4zT_PBmw&t=1s

[willow zodiac]

This is so sad... will there ever be a restock?

[winter pewter]

eh where can i find a summary of the keynote section of Day 1?

[tiny wind]

jeez july vs nov release

[odd yoke]

Yeaaah it got fucked hard

[dense linden]

I'd love to know this too, I was asleep when the orders were opened ...

[somber storm]

Man I just love the song segment in the Sharlayan segment of the trailer

[floral aurora]

Seeing how Fanfest and E3 is being handled, I can take a safe bet that no Media Tour this year

[pulsar current]

Probably not gonna be restocked for a while

[olive urchin]

Why wouldn't they restock? it's the first night, and there is 6 months till release...

[floral aurora]

So I wonder how they will handle no Media Tour

[olive urchin]

of course they will restock it, so don't worry so much

[lyric hedge]

also, EW will come with a 30 days code in it right?

[olive urchin]

I think it depends on your edition you buy, but I don't remember them mentioning it at all so maybe not

[wary perch]

30days code?

[olive urchin]

you can check all of that on the site with the pre-orders

[subtle pasture]

Game time, I assume

[wary perch]

I think 30days code if any will only from base game

[lyric hedge]

yea game time

like, you get the dlc
but also that,
The same thing that comes with ffxiv complete edition

[plain plover]

clean af

[floral aurora]

"Good luck my friend"

[tiny wind]

smug tataru

[pulsar current]

Krile once again not part of the artwork lmao

[kind lark]

Tutaru doing the main character pose

[gaunt star]

Tataru dies

[minor trellis]

tataru in fromt pog

[floral aurora]

Whos that at the top of the picture?

[odd yoke]

New character probably

[minor trellis]

venat

[kind lark]

I'm seeing people say venat

[wary perch]

No idea

[odd yoke]

That being popular guess

[delicate solstice]

is the whale mount seasonal?

[minor trellis]

the person’s holding a mask

[delicate solstice]

or its in the mogstation forever ?

[odd yoke]

No

[wary perch]

No but discount during fan fest period

[delicate solstice]

ah oki ^^ ty

[crystal arrow]

it's 100% venat, she's holding a white mask and her shade in anamnesis had a white mask as well

[next quarry]

ey they're in the shape of the mothercrystal

[floral aurora]

You notice how Zenos is in the shot with everyone else being a ally?
I'm betting you Zenos is going to end up being like a Golbez from FF4

[wet crown]

having a white mask in ancient times is not evidence

[wary perch]

Where's the fun in pointing everything out

[wet crown]

yes, it's obviously Venat but rather because of the process of elimination

[plain plover]

i mean all the shades have white masks because of how they show the ghost

[crystal arrow]

we haven't seen any other ancients with white masks

[plain plover]

what you mean?

[wary perch]

Uluhukai also has a white mask

[next quarry]

ulu is from the 13th

[wary perch]

[plain plover]

others have white masks

[crystal arrow]

Unukalhai is not an ancient.

[wary perch]

And there's a source uluhukai

The top person might not even be an ancient

[sterile galleon]

Bet Reaper's abbreviation will be REA

[crystal arrow]

alright fair but zenos is gonna be a shard of hythlo

[plain plover]

omg

[turbid helm]

g'raha and y'shtola look odd in the trailer for me

[crystal arrow]

it's definitely venat given the 5.5 trailer, lmao

[plain plover]

why?

[turbid helm]

venat is that bright person who appears behind wol

[crystal arrow]

beeecause the figure at silvertear looks a lot like the person at the top of the poster?

[teal geyser]

Hell the top person is holding an Ancient mask btw

[plain plover]

why is that confirmed?

the person in silvertear is just glowing

[sterile galleon]

So 5.55 live letter in... Just over 11 and a half hours.

[floral aurora]

Scions: Why is he here!?
WoL: He's here to help
Scions: You can't trust him!
Zenos: Betrayal and playing tricks isn't my sort of thing. Besides after our business is done, me and my friend can fight once again. And no one will come between that!
Scions: You're crazy!
Zenos: Your point?

[crystal arrow]

you can tell it's the same hairstyle and they're wearing the same robe, lol

[teal geyser]

and has an ancient mask

[plain plover]

so i assume they will be similar to elidibus isn being the heart of hydaelyn if its venat

[crystal arrow]

yes I said that but apparently it's not enough proof because any old ancient could have a white mask

[wary perch]

I'm just screwing around

[turbid helm]

better question is why is krile shunned from another poster?

[wary perch]

No fun if everything is known

[somber storm]

There can only be room for one potato

[floral aurora]

[torpid yoke]

Not like they are still around like that

[wary perch]

Because she is stucked in eurek for majority of the players lol

[plain plover]

yeah krile said she was going to sharlayn but is actually just trying to progress in eureka lmao

[teal geyser]

I mean while technically true and I'd even entertain the possibility that another ancient could appear on the moon or some shit yeah but factor in what you said on top there is no room for doubt.

[crystal arrow]

Frankly I think that venat is living in Mare Lamentorum to keep an eye on zodiark's prison and just does some magic projection/hologram shit to talk to us in silvertear because that's the closest point on the planet to hydaelyn or something

[plain plover]

as before could venat be elidibus's equivalent in being hydaelyns heart?

also what is the main theory that's below silvertear?

[teal geyser]

Would be funny because the Ascians never noticed her I guess?

[teal geyser]

I mean...we know she is that was confirmed basically

[crystal arrow]

that, or maybe she was too tough for them to handle?

[teal geyser]

Nahhhh

[crystal arrow]

I'm sure they'll explain it

[torpid yoke]

3 unsundered against 1 would be easy i would think

[turbid helm]

how does elidibus constantly go to the moon without noticing her

[wary perch]

hydaelyn is weak so I doubt vanet is so strong that 3 unsundered can't handle her

[floral aurora]

After the battle of WoL vs Zenos
Zenos: Well..? faught my friend...
Laughter is heard in the distance
Fandaniel: You served your purpose Zenos. Job well done.

[torpid yoke]

Reason why i think she aint the one who made that on the moon

[crystal arrow]

I mean, venat would be on the power level of elidibus wouldn't she

[teal geyser]

Easier explanation would be that her crib was concealed or something

[severe brook]

I am guessing that the Mare Lamentorum observatory will end up being the Unsundered’s special retreat where they could go to work separate from the other Ascians.

[crystal arrow]

yeah that's probably it

[floral aurora]

Can totally see a Fandaniel betrayal coming.
I mean Fandaniel isn't in that poster

[stable island]

Well, we don't know yet how it turns out until 5.55 is released, i wonder how Krile is doing in Old Sharlayan tbh.

[teal geyser]

Hard to say given the splitting of Zodiark and weakening of Hydaelyn and their power difference in the first place and ehhhhh

[severe brook]

Not necessarily, she could be stronger or weaker. We know from Hades that the Ancients weren’t all born with the same reserves of raw aether

[plain plover]

someone said the person might be menphina because of the pre order earrings

[teal geyser]

Terrible, have you SEEN how many steps there are?

[crystal arrow]

definitely 100% not, because the alliance raid is about the twelve.

[sterile galleon]

With them having gone out of their way to implement boibuns and hrothgals, I could honestly see XIV going on for until at least 9.X now.

[crystal arrow]

the twelve are not physical entities that exist - those would just be primals.

[turbid helm]

krile locked g'raha in that chamber. how else did he get in there?

[severe brook]

I mean you could have the person be the ‘real’ Menphina and the Alliance Raid be about primal reconstructions

[torpid yoke]

it goes until it dont make money no mo

[plain plover]

so the twelve are also likely primals?

[stable island]

True, but maybe someone is helping her, maybe twin daddy?

[floral aurora]

9.X? Maybe but I can see them doing something like a remastered version before then

[crystal arrow]

nahh that doesn't sound feasible

[torpid yoke]

how so?

[crystal arrow]

she's literally holding an ancient mask lol

[torpid yoke]

....and?

[stable island]

Alongside Venat (5.2 MSQ) there were 12 other ancients, i think those are the twelve.

[floral aurora]

Think I read somewhere Yoshida wanted a remastered version but can't yet for scheduling and other reasons

[severe brook]

Why not? Though I will say, I don’t think the person is Menphina. She’s almost certainly Venat

[teal geyser]

Well the going assumption is they are named after ancients and we just established that the woman is an ancient and there might be an ancient connected to the moon and Menphina is goddess to the moon... It's not the stupidest idea but because of the 24-man raid yeah I really don't think that's happening

[plain plover]

in a cutscene, so you're theorising that the twelve are sub primals that hydaelyn created?

[severe brook]

I don’t think it’s a one to one. Azem is at least a partial inspiration for Azeyma, most likely, and they weren’t part of Venat’s faction.

[crystal arrow]

venat was also not a member of the convocation

[teal geyser]

Who said anything about the convocation?

[severe brook]

They’re not talking about the Convocation, they’re talking about Venat’s faction

Which was also made up of thirteen Ancients, at least for its leadership

[teal geyser]

Yeah Venat + 12 others

[floral aurora]

Damn I asked who was the person on the top of the poster and everyone just goes into full lore mode

XD

[teal geyser]

I don't know what you expected

[plain plover]

so yeah it could be that hydaelyn turned them into 12 "primals"/gods as guardians

[severe brook]

I will point out I don’t think the Twelve are wholly based on either Venat’s faction or the Convocation, I think they’re just a mix of deities that were inspired by various figures and grouped into one pantheon over time.

[tiny wind]

the loremasters in here are not to be under-estimated

[floral aurora]

I didn't expect it to have so much hype around it lol

[teal geyser]

I agree and Azeyma kinda uh, makes that point by herself

[severe brook]

Mother tempered them. Made them good again.

[crystal arrow]

Yeah this is what I think as well

(and apologies if I'm a bit jumbled, 2nd shot hitting me hard today <.<)

[teal geyser]

Hahahahaha

[wary perch]

@plain plover It's more likely their story are told with them as god

[torpid yoke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBt4zT_PBmw

my sides.....they hurt

[stable island]

We already know the WoL is Azem.

Azem wasn't a member of both ofc, but there is a chance Azem and Azeyma were 2 different ancients.

That makes me thinking, why would Hydealyn choose a hero that refused her in the first place?

It is possible the WoL/WoD is connected to Zodiark to a certain degree as well. (That does explain why Zenos wants to hunt down the WoL too, because of it's connection)

The WoL is the only one with the full Echo powers too in the story afaik.

[severe brook]

I also don’t think Hydaelyn has enough power to make them primal-blessed like Thordan’s knights either. They’re most likely just separate entities if they even truly exist at the moment at all.

[wary perch]

Wol is not connected to zordiak

[crystal arrow]

Nah, I think azem inspired azeyma, somehow - azem's soul stone has the sun on it, and azeyma is, iirc, a god of the sun, as is azim

but how that connects is unclear

[severe brook]

I would say we probably have no direct connection to Zodiark, on account of a complete lack of evidence. Even our apparent darkness-bringing in ShB was through the Blessing.

[somber storm]

Probably a Azem reincarnation

[plain plover]

yeah we just had hydaelyns blessing to absorb the light

[teal geyser]

Choose a hero in what way?
If you mean make us a WoL I'd mention that you are suggesting soul destiny and that can die.

If you do mean making us a WoL though in all seriousness why would you never pick us? Azem literally is the hero of the world who does all he can to save it?

[wary perch]

How does azem has connection to zordiak when azem isn't involved in the summon

[severe brook]

I mean it also might just be that Azem became the basis for many cultures’ word for sun post-sundering, so many solar figures have similar names

[turbid helm]

if wol is azem why is he walking on the moon and not the sun? checkmate atheists

[teal geyser]

Yeah that checks out

[somber storm]

WoL making a eclipse

[stable island]

Well, it is Final Fantasy after all.
We will see how it plays out.

Still wonder why there were 12 alongside Venat when they summoned Hydealyn, well......
guess we find that out later.

[wary perch]

lol

[somber storm]

12 because FF12

[teal geyser]

Probably to just parallel the Convocation numbers and make them even

[severe brook]

Lucavi of the Twelve incoming

[wary perch]

@stable island Those twelve summoned hydaelyn just like the convocation summoned zordiak

[crystal arrow]

Also I just noticed, but is there something behind venat?

[wary perch]

Whays so weird about it

[teal geyser]

In art?

[turbid helm]

once endwalker wraps up the ff14 story then we can get the fortnite crossover expansion we all want

[crystal arrow]

yeah in art

looks like it's hydy's crystal form

[teal geyser]

There is weird swirling happening in the art but idk what the fuck it is

Oh that bit might just be a crystal like Hyd yeah

[teal geyser]

If that's the cost to get more dances then fine

[crystal arrow]

also every time I look at this poster I have to do a double take b/c it looks like estinien is holding a giant shield lmao

[turbid helm]

estinien is holding the shield to keep tataru away from him

[gaunt star]

@teal geyserare u a reaper main now

[desert basin]

Hmm, I don't know if Tataru being in the front of official poster of Endwalker means she will be essential to the story, or she is just a aesthetically pleasing to be put in front because she is small

[plain plover]

honestly going to fantasia from male lala to female aura just because of reaper

[gaunt star]

i wonder if the reaper senpai will be an au ra

[teal geyser]

Ummm...subject to seeing skills but it does look really cool and the lore is...not what I expected but it's okay.

[plain plover]

wait what is the lore?

[torpid yoke]

Voidsent babeeeeey

[gaunt star]

u dont want a corrupted human from the void world to take over ur body for a few seconds? smh

[desert basin]

Reaper senpai will be the ghost of that death white mage chick

[teal geyser]

Not what I said

[gaunt star]

[teal geyser]

Basically voidsent stand and no dead body shit

[plain plover]

... oh

[gaunt star]

Stand is better than undead

[torpid yoke]

though reapers pet makes me for summoner

[gaunt star]

also i called it, i did say it was gonna be a different take on a reaper but i was called a fool!! jokes on u

[torpid yoke]

i think they are gonna do it cal

[plain plover]

is it known if the trailer sharlayn is the twins dad?

[gaunt star]

yes

[rugged pagoda]

mugshot matches

[gaunt star]

their daddy is on the encyclopedia thing, also yoshi p did say whoever read it knows who he is

[severe brook]

I do kind of wonder how we feed the Void Avatar

[somber storm]

I want my stando power and another entity living in my head

[gaunt star]

u dont feed a stand jotaro

[turbid helm]

alisaie better not look like him when she grows up. what an ugly mug

[somber storm]

WoL brain a apartment complex now

[gaunt star]

https://tenor.com/view/jojos-bizarre-adventures-jjba-jotaro-kujo-star-platinum-stand-gif-15565093

[willow zodiac]

Is there any app or extension that will warn me of the restock of FF14 EW Collectors edition?

[teal geyser]

It's the dad yes Fourchenault

[tidal mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/death13-gif-21045954

[somber storm]

Imagine Fray interacting with our void avatar

[gaunt star]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/3750934a92492c4cc476021795175ce0/tumblr_inline_of3ysstgH21ty8zrf_540.jpg

[teal geyser]

Oh I was about to just say what his bio said lol

[gaunt star]

[crystal arrow]

One thing I noticed about the sharlayan world map that fourchenault had, it seems like it had a swath of land that wasn't covered by clouds around garlemald?

[plain plover]

saw that image on a reddit thread and got t his

[torpid yoke]

pretty sure thats just garlemald

[gaunt star]

man i was hoping for like october release, late november is sooo late

[crystal arrow]

I can't tell if its wear and tear or not but, https://i.imgur.com/mCvl5c0.png

[turbid helm]

that's a pandemic for ya

[plain plover]

fall is good time anyway for me since warhammer total war 3 as well

[teal geyser]

Yeah that is just the Garlemald destruction zone being shown basically

[gaunt star]

im not complaining

just ughhh

[tidal mauve]

eh, 6 months is nothing

[teal geyser]

Oh God they better not release close to each other

[turbid helm]

i'll just play classic tbc until EW drops

[plain plover]

warhammer total war 3 was announced for fall as well, you also looking forward to that?

[subtle pasture]

I went and checked it that map also showed Bozja and it did not

Zadnor, please don’t fail me

[crystal arrow]

fourchy's hand is in the way anyways isn't it

[subtle pasture]

Yeah but it slides over in the next shot

[plain plover]

why is it also called old sharlayan, is there a separate settlement?

[somber storm]

[subtle pasture]

Aye, the abandoned colony in the Hinterlands, where Gubal and Idyllshire are

[teal geyser]

New Sharlayan was where Idyllshire is

[crystal arrow]

you can see rabanastre on the map tho!

[plain plover]

oh ok its just that then

[crystal arrow]

https://i.imgur.com/un6JXOL.png

[subtle pasture]

Honestly I’m bothered they still tack on “old” with the colony abandoned

[teal geyser]

Place is Old

[crystal arrow]

what bothers me more is that the abandoned colony is just "sharlayan" and not "new sharlayan"

[tidal mauve]

goblins are the new scholars

[somber storm]

Well you need the difference between Old York, York, New York and New New York

[subtle pasture]

Yeah but (New) Sharlayan was defunct

[plain plover]

garlemald will likely be endgame city like how idyllshire was?

[teal geyser]

That's Radz

[subtle pasture]

That’s Radz-at-Han, yeah

Will have our endgame tome merchants

[teal geyser]

Garlemald isn't exactly a city now anymore lol

[plain plover]

oh they said it was radz?

[kind lark]

Yeah

[wary perch]

Yup

[plain plover]

oh ok

[placid sail]

yeah old sharlayan is confirmed as the new capital city and radz-at-han is confirmed as the new end game hub

[plain plover]

inb4 garlemald reconstruction

[dawn wave]

what the fuck. literally unplayable

[crystal arrow]

probably not, garlemald seems pretty fucked beyond repair

[somber storm]

Rowena getting stores set up

[kind lark]

Urianger's chin can grate cheese

[tidal mauve]

alisae still cheated and skipped a combo step

[subtle pasture]

Like they always add a city (Ishgard, Kugane, Crystarium) and an endgame hub that just happened to be cities this time and last (Idyllshire, Rhalgr’s Reach, Eulmore)

[turbid helm]

his back was too sexy for the cinematic

[crystal arrow]

radz seems pretty big tbh

[tidal mauve]

those cheating, cunning elves

[crystal arrow]

they said it was on par with eulmore but it seems larger

[teal geyser]

Probably feels that way because Eulmore was thin but stacked

[subtle pasture]

Eulmore gets its mass bogged down with the shanty— like really the part of it that is just a mountain of driftwood. And a lot of empty space in the upper part of the Buttress

[teal geyser]

And you literally never go to the middle or bottom tbh

[subtle pasture]

Radz, in comparison, seems like it be p compacted and borderline claustrophobic

[bold condor]

Like Zenos.

[subtle pasture]

Woo nooks and crannies hype

[teal geyser]

h-hi

[kind lark]

Erp in the hot springs

[subtle pasture]

Who wants to paint graffiti on the House Uznair door with me

[torpid yoke]

uh

[subtle pasture]

Or whoever owns Uznair, I forget. S-something

[carmine basin]

Me

[teal geyser]

I forget what their name is too but yeah fuck those rich assholes

[crystal arrow]

ah yeah probably. also that the slums area was part of eulmore too

[severe brook]

I have one possible theory: maybe Radz-at-Han is the designated living area for non-Matanga, and then the Matanga themselves are able to live throughout Thavnair?

Thus Radz being as cramped as it is

[teal geyser]

That's a lot of power for a beast tribe

[subtle pasture]

I don’t mean cramped per se as the images of its alleys make it a very...

[turbid helm]

imagining walking up the radz stairs to the gate gives me heart palpitations

[severe brook]

Well, Thavnair may very well not have the “Beast Tribe” concept in place

[crystal arrow]

also so uhh, theories on the magus' sisters then?

are they a primal, or just normal ppl? maybe they aren't a boss in that tower but instead the tower just absorbed a temple to them or some shit

[subtle pasture]

Dense, city.

[teal geyser]

Doesn't change what I said

[somber storm]

https://youtu.be/umBoW_nTLUc

[subtle pasture]

For another thing we know of a Sharlayan settlement on the island and that set of Dancer statues

[severe brook]

I am kind of guessing the Magus Sisters are various people who wear ceremonial costumes. Possibly as priestesses for a Thavnairan deity?

[somber storm]

Ok I think the labyrinthos song grew on me

[crystal arrow]

and speaking of labyrinthos, I feel like I'm the only person who likes the ost

[subtle pasture]

They do got elephant masks,

[teal geyser]

Only one

[subtle pasture]

...and ofc the color palette SCREAMS Thavnairian

[severe brook]

Wel, Cindy does. The oldest has a bird mask, and the youngest has a three-eyed mask.

[forest magnet]

soken pls

[turbid helm]

this song... was NOT what was I expecting it to sound like

[teal geyser]

Yeah idk what the small one is wearing

[crystal arrow]

the track sounds like... super artificial and carnival-y

[somber storm]

Tfw the Sharlayan part of the trailer got the same notes as the one in the Radz vid

[severe brook]

I am guessing they’ll be mortal priestesses for the Thavnairan deity who get stuck in that Tower to serve as focuses for summoning a Lunar version of that Primal

[somber storm]

Probably to show how much of a clown Sharlayans are with their underground bunker

[wooden dove]

Is there an at a glance for information we've gotten so far I can get directed to? I haven't been able to keep up with any reveals, been working or asleep.

[subtle pasture]

My friend thought the (probably) Labyrinthos dungeon was bordering the burn, but it’s actually a winter biome next to a desert biome to a volcanic biome to a forest biome and I—

Just what the fuck is Labyrinthos man my god

[forest magnet]

Labrynthos is just a circus tent.

[torpid yoke]

The little ones mask reminds me of a terminus beasts

[unborn lantern]

you really think Urianger would only wear one set of clothes...

[teal geyser]

FFXIV YouTube I guess?

[unborn lantern]

gotta change once in awhile

[torpid yoke]

Or an oni. I forget like the exact thing it reminds me of

[dawn wave]

its the same model as his shb trailee outfit so i assume they reused it.. and it was probably made before gear was completely finalised since cgi team is a completely different branch of development

[crystal arrow]

honestly I don't think that's a dungeon at all, rather that's the deep dungeon

[unborn lantern]

also I think they downgraded the cgi models in endwalker

they look better in shadowbringer

[severe brook]

Actually I wonder if the Magus Sisters will still have their usual names. Mindy, Cindy, and Sandy would feel a bit out of place in Thavnair.

[crystal arrow]

the idea of going through a bunch of portals to different places underground would make sense as a randomized thing

[opal harness]

you think they'll show job actions today?

[crystal arrow]

no

[forest magnet]

No.

[subtle pasture]

Labyrinthos clearly seems to be belying an artificial nature and the Anyder-like facility of the third instance in the dungeon crawl preview just, like,

throws in that fucking intersection of biomes, what is this Eureka shit

[dawn basin]

ok i got one for you lads

What do you think Reaper's LB3 is gonna be?

[torpid yoke]

I think that dungeon actually belongs to that floating island place. It had concept stuff inside

[polar crater]

When did the preorders go live? I missed my chance.

[dusk slate]

last night after the keynote iirc

[polar crater]

Did they sell out imediatly, or am I an idiot for not checking then?

[chilly bluff]

Physical CEs sold out in like ten minutes

[pastel coyote]

yes

[rocky pilot]

Warning for upcoming male Viera mains:

[polar crater]

Damn, I never got a CE before, and I wanted to get endwalker as my first.

[wary perch]

https://twitter.com/AD_FFXIV/status/1393513824460828674?s=09

𝐀𝐃 (@AD_FFXIV)

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[forest magnet]

i'm currently a catboy you think i care

[torpid yoke]

You might still have a chance. They usually do 2 waves at least

[polar crater]

Thanks. I'll have to keep a close eye on the store.

[rocky pilot]

But are cats gay animals?

[unreal fox]

there been any links to purchase yet

[jade phoenix]

only if they wear socks

[kindred rampart]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1ZVN9OWUAAT-m4.jpg:large

[jade phoenix]

you know my biggest thought looking at all the crazy zones is

[chilly bluff]

Digital CE and standard versions are up on the SE store and I think Steam as well? Physical would also be on the SE store but it's gone for now.

[subtle pasture]

yeah 'm just... trying to piece the architecture in those gates and towers

[jade phoenix]

how can they possibly blow our minds with the secret final zone in the same way that tempest did

seems like a high bar compared to underground biodomes and the fuckin moon

[subtle pasture]

this shit looks like Lyoko

[chilly bluff]

That sky zone that they didn't name is probably the last zone.

[jade phoenix]

they don't usually show anything about final zones pre expansion though right?

[severe brook]

“Ah yes, the ‘Final Days.’ We have dismissed this claim.”

[chilly bluff]

They showed off Azys Lla

[subtle pasture]

Ice Sector, Desert Sector, Forest Sector,

[jade phoenix]

true

[subtle pasture]

Well, no Mountain Sector or Sector 5

[jade phoenix]

i guess tempest was the only one kept truly secret

[silent hazel]

did we get any combat changes info

[severe brook]

I feel like they probably haven’t shown the Final Zone yet, though I would need to count everything we have so far to see if we’ve hit six yet.

[jade phoenix]

no, that's probably gonna be for the liveletter today @silent hazel

[silent hazel]

ok ty

[jade phoenix]

thavnair garlemald labyrinthos moon floaty island zone

am i missing one

[severe brook]

So that’s 5/6, assuming they stick to six zones

[unreal fox]

so what the heck is the difference between the 200$ one and the 140

[jade phoenix]

the game itself i think

[severe brook]

Though then Thavnair looks like it’ll have two dungeons

[subtle pasture]

further expansion on this Anyder-like facility, but seems we come out a building between the volcano and desert sectors- I do think it's a dungeon, the barriers and rubble in the last screen says we end up crossing into the tundra sector, it seems

[jade phoenix]

god i really hope we get a four fiends raid or trial fight this expansion

[severe brook]

Unless maybe the two pieces of concept art are for the same dungeon

[unreal fox]

and $200 version hasn't been on sale?

[subtle pasture]

oh, then it prob loops back through forest and a path on the right-- THIS SHIT IS SO COOL

[jade phoenix]

like surely they're not gonna put the magus sisters in the game and not the four fiends right?

[severe brook]

We could still have Four Archfiends for the Trial Series, though I actually predict they’ll be involved in the MSQ somehow.
Possibly with Cagnazzo possessing the Twins’ dad.

[jade phoenix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vanorv472Y

[crystal arrow]

four fiends is probably the trial series

[jade phoenix]

what if the trial series is into the giant

[subtle pasture]

But else, I am making the assumption the dungeon crawl is limited to dungeons of the zones they also previewed,

but that Thavnairian Temple wasn't in the crawl so fuck me there

[crystal arrow]

One of those could be the final dungeon, for all we know - the shb dungeon reel had amaurot in it afterall

[jade phoenix]

i really hope that the gear from thavnair is as outlandish and unique as the zone itself

[subtle pasture]

or an optional one at 90, as well

[jade phoenix]

we've had too many armoured robes/longcoats in shadowbringers

time to get wacky

[wind cedar]

I will never understand this twisted logic 😂

[subtle pasture]

If I had to guess, I'd honestly put that weird mixed biome dungeon in Mare Lamentorum, beneath the main tower they previewed- just since we don't know enough of the floating isles' vibe

[wind cedar]

Biome mixed dungeon seems to be the tower tbh

[gleaming bough]

is it me or that the male viera looks shorter than female

[wind cedar]

Based on what we saw in cutscene with Fordola

[jade phoenix]

i have to say that the biodome part of labyrinthos actually looked pretty small and it makes me wonder if there's a cave network part of the map outside of it like blackreach

[subtle pasture]

Like, Ancient attempts to terraform the moon,

[wind cedar]

Hard to say now, but it's possible yeah

[jade phoenix]

hopefully they give us the benchmark so we can know for sure

[chilly bluff]

I for one will be super glad if bunbois are shorter than the girls. It would be a nice inversion of the Au Ra dichotomy.

[wind cedar]

If they follow previous expacs schedule, benchmark should be in thw beginning of October

[subtle pasture]

inb4 it's truly wacky shit like, "The Third Forest," "The Seventh Desert,"

like oh huh weird numbering-- it's shards

nah, ...but imagine

[jade phoenix]

also thinking about the implications of them using golbez's theme for a main story dungeon

[somber storm]

The 7th Heaven

[rocky pilot]

Imagine wondering if anything you do is gay before doing it. Who has the time & effort 🤦🏾‍♂️

[iron scaffold]

How they gonna cover the 5+ months until expansion

[jade phoenix]

is zenos meant to be our golbez and fandaniel the evil moon ghost controlling him

[jade phoenix]

with moonfire faire and moogle tomes probably

[subtle pasture]

Like the clean cut barriers between the biomes is so cool... I guess my Labyrinthos thoughts is that the tower-like structure might be supporting the dome above it?

[wind cedar]

I know I don't (but I'm bi... so I don't care to begin with) 😂

[subtle pasture]

Like, Labyrinthos itself is mostly passing off a... Sharlayan vibe, in terms of color of the stonework and some of the metallurgy-- so then imagine descending a forbidden ladder to some blatantly Ancient shit

anyway I've rambled too long about this one dungeon

[jade phoenix]

now the real question

do you think we go to sharlayan first and then radz at han or the other way around?

[severe brook]

Maybe Labyrinthos is Sharlayan’s attempt at a sort of Seed Vault but for different arrangements of aether. So that they can restore the environments of the world post-apocalypse

[wind cedar]

I think it will be radz at han first

[severe brook]

I now think Sharlayan will be first, and then we’ll go to Radz to try to form a new plan to deal with the Final Days

[crystal arrow]

no, we almost always go to the big city first

[jade phoenix]

i think that we're going to go to sharlayan, get denied help, then find unexpected allies in radz at han, and the reason i say that is because i think i saw a marketboard in the old sharlayan footage

[subtle pasture]

I think Sharlayan first and we actually TP to Thavnair directly bc there's an Aetheryte in the same style on that little beach settlement in Thavnair,

[severe brook]

We did briefly go to Rhalgr’s first but that didn’t last long

[iron scaffold]

we went to the reach first before Kugane in StB

[subtle pasture]

and idk I guess I could see Sharlayan Aetherytes can work without attunement? Else the Sharlayan aetheryte there is, weird.

[jade phoenix]

that's true

[crystal arrow]

I wonder if we'll get discounts

[severe brook]

Maybe the one we take to Thavnair is experimental or something

[jade phoenix]

or maybe we finally get sharlayan to help us and then go to radz at han and push the garlean agents out

[subtle pasture]

Like we see Thavnairian Aetherytes elsewhere, why's this one Sharlayan style?

[gaunt star]

There seems like there's gonna be A LOT going on. I worry for story cohesion, but am tentatively hopefuly considering past successes.

[jade phoenix]

it could also be a split path like the shadowbringers story

where you're told to rally neutral cities in the realm and choose which one to go to first

[gaunt star]

I am interested in The Seat of Twelve

[jade phoenix]

as neat as the nier stuff was i am very very ready to have the 24 man be final fantasy again lmao

[gaunt star]

I wonder if it's going to be like Edensgate.... and we'll be doing what Gaius proposed ages ago, and attempting to call them down to help the world.

[wind cedar]

Well... we already tried once

[iron scaffold]

hmmmm I question the true nature of the Twelve

[wind cedar]

In 1.0.

[subtle pasture]

terrible screen but you can tell it's not the Sharlayan nautilus design... actually it looks p close to an Eorzean one, weird.

[gaunt star]

That wasn't summoning the twelve per se as much as the will of the twelve to seal Bahamut, kind of an incomplete summoning like with Elidibus and the heroes.

[jade phoenix]

after this expansion we will fight each of the twelve to the death

no gods no masters route

[rare sinew]

Buds, they made no mention of an Eorzea Encyclopaedia 3, right?

[gaunt star]

right, which is why I wonder if it's going to be like Edensgate where we summon a proximate of each of the twelve and defeat them for some purpose.

[wind cedar]

Nope

[subtle pasture]

ah nvm, you can see the fabric on the bottom, it's same style as the crystal in Radz-at-Han

[gaunt star]

more importantly... seems like we're gonna fight Halone, and Rhalgar, and Menphina, and... and...

[subtle pasture]

deffo still very similar to eorzean crystals, with some decoration

[rare sinew]

Ah. Thanks bud.

[iron scaffold]

Which brings back a theory during 5.2; were the Twelve actual Ancients

[uneven scarab]

"Fantasia purchases have been going down lately. What could we do to bring them up?"

[gaunt star]

I think the twelve were EITHER the convocation of thirteen, or their opposing Hydaelyn faction

[crystal arrow]

I hope this is just a placeholder, I'd be sorta disappointed if the main radz aetheryte just looked like that :(

[severe brook]

I’m kind of thinking we could have the first half of the raid be about the elemental constellations, then have something different for the second half

So say, have The Spire be a part of the raid and it’d involve fighting Rhalgr and Byregot. And so on.

[wary perch]

http://ff14net.2chblog.jp/archives/58028972.html
<@&151564672154206208> if you would be so kind to help translate.
Thanks🙏

[subtle pasture]

oh it is, literally just an eorzean crystal with some fabric on the base of the main body, isn't it

[gaunt star]

considering the ascians being inverse to the twelve... I expect it's probably the latter, the hydaelyn faction.

[subtle pasture]

meanwhile Sharlayan's OG is the sickest nautilus shit

--Which brings me to Labyrinthos having the Dravania/Gyr Abania/North Eorzea? style crystal

[crystal arrow]

the radz music is banging tho

[severe brook]

But we already know at least one of the Twelve’s inspiration was not part of Venat’s faction.

[iron scaffold]

The Convocation are the Ascian, so the it's most likely Venat faction or Azem and the Boys

[glad maple]

Y’all think they gonna let viera wear hats in 6.0 I wanna switch to that race but I don’t wanna give up hats

[gaunt star]

I don't think they're going to work on hats prior to the race releasing, but I do think they'll have more hats as they go forward for the new races.

[severe brook]

The Twelve are most likely just a mishmash of various figures gathered into a group by the time of Allag. If they truly exist, it’s likely not as a direct connection to any specific group of Ancients

[bold condor]

Who?

[gaunt star]

now that their in the production line. Some industrious worker might pick some favorites of old hats to implement, though.

[iron scaffold]

dont know, but they should give us hair option atleast

[severe brook]

Azeyma likely being based on Azem. And that’s assuming there more of a basis beyond the name and sun connection.

[bold condor]

Do we know anything specific about what Azem did after the Sundering?

[glad maple]

If they let us wear hat I’ll be a pretty viera boy

[gaunt star]

They got sundered.

[severe brook]

If the only link is the name and Sun connection, then it just proves the Twelve are not based on specific Ancients anyway

[bold condor]

You might be right. I'm just saying, like, we don't know anything.

[gaunt star]

There's not enough information to know who the twelve are based on, but I can say that their respective jobs are reflective of the convocation's jobs, and so I feel there is a strong connection to it being one of the two ancient groups

[bold condor]

About the Twelve, about Venat's faction, about Azem's life after being Azem.

[crystal arrow]

I don't think we know anything for sure about why that connection exists, but I hope venat sheds more light on that.

[iron scaffold]

"saving the land" if we take account on what we learn from 5.3 msq about the first WoL

[subtle pasture]

Yeah, notably the "Origins of the Twelve" in EE1 had a disclaimer that Lewphon was synthesizing countless different legends and stories to what he claimed as "the most definitive" version,

[gaunt star]

Nald'Thal's nature is very reflective of Emet-Selch's, including having two names in title

[bold condor]

Still pending confirmation even if that's so likely it's basically a given.

[severe brook]

I agree. I am just trying to counter the arguments of “The Twelve are all Venat’s faction” and “The Twelve are the Convocation”

Because i think it’s most likely that they’re all naturally-developed deities that became grouped into one pantheon over the ages.

[subtle pasture]

anyway every Twelve came out of the Whorl or was born from one who did except Oschon who literally just popped up one day and Nald'thal who came out of a pillar of lava Oschon called

[bold condor]

Well the thing about the Twelve is that they actually go back to the earliest parts of the Source's history in Eorzea.

[severe brook]

Some, but not all, of whom may have been based on specific Ancients or memories of specific Ancients.

[subtle pasture]

which has, always been sus to me, Oschon coming from nowhere and forging Nald'thal, that is

[gaunt star]

@severe brook you can have gestalt's while still having originating entities.

[bold condor]

And that's a really unusual trait to have for a group of deities.

Think about going seven calamities and around 12,000 years still believing in the same pantheon.

[iron scaffold]

But I have a feeling we might meet one of the Actual Twleve in 6.0; and she lives on the Moon

[crystal arrow]

I mean, they've been around for a long time right? maybe ancient sundered found ruins of the ancient cities and then based the twelve around what they found? who knows

[jade phoenix]

really hope that we get to see all the artifact armors today during the liveletter

[bold condor]

I feel like there has to be something more there to justify how even Allag would know the Twelve.

[jade phoenix]

i want to see how they fall short of machinist's level 60 year yet again

[severe brook]

Hm, I had thought they only got codified as the modern pantheon we know them as during the time of Allag

[gaunt star]

@crystal arrow bet's on it being Menphina?

[warm trench]

So we have our edgelord Tank, our Edgelord DPS, when Edgelord Healer

[crystal arrow]

Definitely agreed, it feels like there's more there, but we don't have enough information.

[bold condor]

Mhm.

[crystal arrow]

What do you mean? that person on the top is pretty much guaranteed to be venat.

[warm trench]

How would one make healing edgy anyways

[iron scaffold]

most likely and she possible A Ancient

[jade phoenix]

vampirism or necromancy

[bold condor]

Life transference.

[gaunt star]

SHe could be both Menphina and Venat

[severe brook]

I do still have my “Ramuh is Rhalgr is Venat’s confidant” crack theory though

[subtle pasture]

Mind, Lewphon's simplification of the Twelve's origin story is relatively recent- within Sharlayan's lifespan. Unreliable lorebook narrator and all that

[gaunt star]

recall the ancients are immortal

[wary perch]

@warm trench self heal using war skill as reaper

[crystal arrow]

idk why people are so hooked on her being menphina lol, it just has to be venat given the mask and the 5.5 trailer

[bold condor]

Imagine a healer that marks off an enemy or group of enemies and siphons them to heal.

[iron scaffold]

Venat is Hydealyn

[gaunt star]

I was asking if Menphina makes sense, since we're getting jewelry with Menphina's name as pre order bonus

[crystal arrow]

like, for shb we had an aetheryte earring, aetherytes weren't super relevant to the plot then

[subtle pasture]

They could rail hard on the Twelve associated to the astral elements being inspired on Ascians and their umbral counterparts being historic WoL's

[severe brook]

Lewphon, the Hesiod of Eorzea

[subtle pasture]

or... vice versa, Nald'thal is Umbral Fire, yes?

[crystal arrow]

No, she's hydaelyn's core like elidibus was. Venat is probably in the same state of being as he was.

[jade phoenix]

clearly it's fordola with a new hairstyle 🤡

[severe brook]

Well yes, but wouldn’t the Twelve’s Polarities be reversed now with the new understanding of Astral/Umbral?

[gaunt star]

I could see the woman at the top being fordola possibly.

[bold condor]

As an aside, I bought Khara the whole Adamantite Maiming set so that when the time comes I'll have a cool-looking Reaper set.

[jade phoenix]

jokes aside i hope that fordola's absence from that cover art doesnt mean that she's gonna die in the expansion prepatch because she deserves so much more

[severe brook]

It’s not Fordola, whoever she is, she’s someone new

[bold condor]

That was a joke, I think. Clown face.

Oh, Heretic said they thought it really was.

[iron scaffold]

For a Wizard you not good at Trolling

[gaunt star]

I hope everyone noticed that the space bunnies are all wearing hats. 😄

[bold condor]

Yeah, no, Heretic lmao

[severe brook]

I am the clown. To Labyrinthos I go

[crystal arrow]

Definitely venat, definitely the same figure we see in the 5.5 trailer given her hair and the robe

[subtle pasture]

Emet working alongside a past, feminine incarnation of Azem and being immortalized as Azeyma and Nald'thal

[gaunt star]

I'm serious, all the Lapuritt's (?) have hats on.

[subtle pasture]

oh that'd make the Heaven of Fire even sadder-- I need it.

[drowsy belfry]

So I've slept now, and god am I glad that the 24 man isn't about Lake Silvertear

Now that big ol presence can be used as a story boss

[gaunt star]

It could still be about lake silvertear.

[opal harness]

hey question - did the pre-order earrings n stuff drop or no?

[jade phoenix]

also i am in fear of the fanart storm that will come from these

[gaunt star]

Pre order's weren't available last night...

[viscid monolith]

WHY AM I JUST FINDING OUT THERE WAS A CONCERT LAST NIGHG

[autumn heron]

Not yet, they dont come out till 6.0

[opal harness]

a

[subtle pasture]

That's originally the Lamashtu model, yeah?

[viscid monolith]

I HAD TO SLEEP BECAUSE OF WORK THIS MORNING

[crystal arrow]

The pre order stuff is available now. Just takes a bit to arrive.

[autumn heron]

the preorder is just so you get them in the mail when EW drops

[subtle pasture]

Not in terms of animation bones, but that particular model for the skeleton

[crystal arrow]

no? they're available now.

[viscid monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-憤怒-angry-furious-mad-gif-4514235

[iron scaffold]

already preorder now I wait

[torpid yoke]

think so. They are also from the amaurot dungeon in particular

[drowsy belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842199484788506654/843072406502899722/KillMe.mp4

[gaunt star]

well they're sold out already at Square Enix Store

[torpid yoke]

https://twitter.com/Kinkla_Ghasha/status/1393395057223520257?s=20

Kinkla Ghasha (@Kinkla_Ghasha)

Saw the extended trailer and had to make this. lmfao
#ffxiv

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[bold condor]

Got my earrings just now.

[drowsy belfry]

So worth the lack of sleep I got

[subtle pasture]

Lamashtu, Forgiven Pedantry, and Terminus Idolizers-- the last of which those trailer gals are, to be specific

[rocky pilot]

Preorder earrings? O_O

[kind lark]

Can't wait to fight terminus beasts on the moon

[bold condor]

Yeah.

[subtle pasture]

Rom what do you think of the idea we go to Sharlayan first and then Special Teleport to Thavnair bc that port town in Thavnair has a Sharlayan Aetheryte for some reason

[viscid monolith]

What the earrings do

[pastel coyote]

Yeah it was a thing in rift

[gaunt star]

how can it already be sold out? Scalpers...

[oak pike]

So when does the pre order earrings come in ?

[gaunt star]

when 6.0 drops

[viscid monolith]

How can a digital item be sold out

[rocky pilot]

Exp boost below 70 I believe.

[oak pike]

Below 80

[drowsy belfry]

So I'm not crazy they DID straight up have a Sharlayan aetherryte

[crystal arrow]

again, no. they are available now.

[gaunt star]

The collector's edition box

[crystal arrow]

there's just so many people buying it that it takes a while to arrive.

[subtle pasture]

Yeah, it's weird-- or it would weird if we it wasn't used for a special reason 🔎