retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[soft maple]

Is anyone still watching the fan fest?

[obsidian pagoda]

Fandaniel finally enacting his plans now that the unsundered are all gone

[bold condor]

Well, you know, Final Days are upon us, imagine living in Golmore or near Skatay and suddenly DEMONS EVERYWHERE. You might reconsider being isolationist.

[random anvil]

is there a fanfest schedule?

[full dock]

Don’t think they wanna spoil too much for reaper yet

[uneven scarab]

i hope reaper brings some utility. doesnt have to be like dancer but definitely not like samurai

[pale shuttle]

Well i wouldn’t say send out a void send but summon him for a quick muda muda lol it would be kinda cool if the void sent could fight on its own

[gloomy shale]

ever since Stormblood the new jobs have been very well designed imo

[austere raptor]

I really wanted job actions trailer guess not this fanfest

[maiden lodge]

Meanwhile in Eorzea 'Same shit as always I guess'

[pale shuttle]

I can’t wait to see Tier 3 reaper LB

[soft maple]

If so, does anyone know what 'hello world' is for programmers?

[wind bough]

Job actions come much later

[wary perch]

@soft maple meme from Apple

[wind bough]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/"Hello,_World!"_program

[austere raptor]

First line of code a programmer learns is how to print out "Hello World"

[maiden lodge]

It's the meme 'first program' they teach someone in every language.

[clever flume]

https://fanfest.finalfantasyxiv.com/2021/na/program/timetable/

[uneven scarab]

i'd say blow the world up and have a whole new atmosphere after you finish the endwalker campaign but

[pale shuttle]

I feel like EW job actions will be pretty amazing and change alot of core class gameplay, butt i think they’ll add more traits this expansion instead of skills for most classes because skill bar and keybind limit will be a pain for most people

[uneven scarab]

that no feasible

[subtle pasture]

Yeah, it's a very basic programming 101 I believe

[versed hill]

lmao that

[wary perch]

Which jobs don't have a stand yet?

[versed hill]

titan model eerily resembles thanos

[uneven scarab]

make blood of the dragon a goddamn trait

[soft maple]

Monk

[maiden lodge]

Yeah, they'll condense hotbars to add more buttons, same shit as always.

[cloud basin]

so the CE digital edition, gives early access, will it give that until the expantion launches?

[subtle pasture]

I can't believe Reaper is Ran'jit with a ghost

[versed hill]

thatd be a huge drg buff for ucob and uwu

[gloomy shale]

So are they continuing the tradition of every job gets the new big attack that trumps the previous expansions?

[maiden lodge]

EA starts the friday before.

[austere raptor]

Ranjit had dragon we get cooler ghost

[pale shuttle]

I hope if they do condense hotbars actually make a significant change rather than potency boost and animation change

[austere raptor]

We have a long time to pre-order EW right?

[pale shuttle]

yes

[versed hill]

until it releases

[soft maple]

VERY long time

[subtle pasture]

Also just for me to have this small victory-- now that Endwalker has clearer vocals, solidly cnvinced that line was, in fact, "Burning brightly in hallowed white"

[uneven scarab]

drk has a stand
mch has a stand
scholar has 3 stands :D
smn has 5 stands :D
reaper has a stand

[pale shuttle]

6 and a half months to pre order

[uneven scarab]

im definitely missing some.

[dusky frigate]

Does this mean DRG gets a dragon?

[subtle pasture]

--Also that line is right when Alisaie uses verholy, nice.

[austere raptor]

What content do we even get in these 6 months other than new bozja

[soft maple]

Nin

[maiden lodge]

it's job dependant. Some jobs like DRG, if they add, they have to condense to keep things lined up right--other jobs have play issues they want to address--some jobs have wide openings for new abilities--some need to be reworked, they always do this on a job-to-job basis

[pale shuttle]

maybe? estinien makes thrasgar his bitch

[random anvil]

MNK stand used to be greased lightning hula hoops

[dusky frigate]

Who tf is thrasgar

[soft maple]

And it's GONE

[uneven scarab]

we are about to make zenos our bitch

[pale shuttle]

idk i forgot how its spelt lol

[uneven scarab]

after zenos makes reality his bitch

[dusky frigate]

Vritra?

[maiden lodge]

Vrtra.

[rotund zephyr]

dragon in trailer is Vrtra

[pale shuttle]

ohhh

im big dumb

[maiden lodge]

and not 'his bitch' but more of a partnership it seems

[soft maple]

And then there's azdaja

[gloomy shale]

so tomorrow is the patch live letter, you think they will just drop the patch next week?

[maiden lodge]

I'm still concerned at the lack of Tiamat.

[subtle pasture]

Ya'know, given Vrtra is named for a dragon-like being in Hinduism, very glad they're confirmed Thavnairian

[pale shuttle]

yeah i feel like dragoon might summon a dragon in end walker because why shouldn’t it owo hell even drk can summon a shade, ninja has a shadow clone, summoner , machinist, scholar reaper

[clever flume]

no

[subtle pasture]

or, in the region, 'least, of course.

[pale shuttle]

i feel like each class will end up with summons lmao

[subtle pasture]

Also guys what the fuck was the last zone they didn't name, the floating isles???
My thoughts lie in Mysidia I guess

[chilly bluff]

For 4.55, it released the week after the fan fest. Not much of a precedent for that though. I'd imagine a week and a half.

[uneven scarab]

what stand do yall think summoner will get this time

[maiden lodge]

Check the architecture. It's Amaurotine.

[pale shuttle]

Lucy’s zodiac keys

[uneven scarab]

this isnt fairy tail

[maiden lodge]

Some sort of rework that caused them to stop work on Egi-Glamours.

[pale shuttle]

its a joke lul

[cloud basin]

it should be phionix and bahamut then titan? (I totaly butcher the name)

[subtle pasture]

Man, Lamentorum is Ancient, Labyrinthos seems to be,

[dusky frigate]

Is there an album with the slides from the keynote? I wasn't able to watch it

[stiff charm]

the yell wasnt LET IT EEEEEEEEEEnd :(

[subtle pasture]

at least it's not Allag anymore o(-<

[maiden lodge]

you say that with that obviously allag ship sitting there in that there crater

[chilly bluff]

There weren't as many info slides this time. It was mostly video.

[brazen stag]

Sea of Sadness they played the ancient leitmotif and it has really tall doors so yeah, pretty much confirmed.

[stiff charm]

S P A C E
A L L A G A N S

[pale shuttle]

i wonder how flashy blm spells will get in end walker lol

[subtle pasture]

Hey we knew at least one made it that far

[stiff charm]

cat stand

[gaunt star]

I hope they show Reaper lb3 at some point during fanfest

[wary perch]

That's Ragnarok crash landed

[dusky frigate]

Gotcha, I'll wait for vods then

[brazen stag]

Looks kinda like a satellite instead of a space ship to me.

[wind bough]

that could very well have come out of Dalamud

[pale shuttle]

Ninja gets fourth mudra... Ninja mains: OH GOD OH NO END US

[uneven scarab]

no you didnt say it right. it is
omegalul

oʊˈmɛg ə łûł

1. the definitive version of lul

[maiden lodge]

"Lunar Coil of Bahamut Go"

[pale shuttle]

[gaunt star]

nin gets fourth mudra
BIGGERER SHURIKEN

[maiden lodge]

...wait that... that might actually be a thing

[brazen stag]

[untold gull]

Mare lamentorum is definitely ancient. D'you see those concepts when they showed the inside of it? Almost like akadaemia anyder

[uneven scarab]

nin's fourth mudra where the bunny fights

[chilly bluff]

All of the video segments are on the youtube channel now, at least. Synopses will probably hit in a couple days as well.

[stiff charm]

bnuuy with bummy stand

[gaunt star]

The bunny is a queen-like entity

[pale shuttle]

reaper is savagoth from warframe change my mind

[wind bough]

It literally played Amaurot music remix so yeah

[maiden lodge]

'Neath Dark Waters was also a hint

[gloomy shale]

What percentage of players will remain playing Reaper after they try it out you think?

[pine epoch]

Technically speaking reaper aesthetic should appease people who wanted a "necro" without it being necro. But instead of undead. You get a new best friend that's a voidsent

[pale shuttle]

jk jk i thought they were similar lol

[uneven scarab]

does that make bard octavia?

[dusky frigate]

DRG mains will probably stay with it for a bit

[brazen stag]

Also the architectural cue from having a big golden spirally antenna roller coaster thing on the outside of the building just like amaurot.

[gaunt star]

And I am the most pleased with this outcome, I didn't expect to be edgy WITH A STAND

[stiff charm]

even khora made a cameo in ffxiv

[cloud basin]

I will for sure main it on the spot, cuz DRK is an damn tank! T^T

[maiden lodge]

also for newcomers.. homage done right: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/742643125981413447/842946427562360832/Screenshot_20210514-210225_Twitch.jpg

[chilly bluff]

Also NIN has had the fourth Mudra for this entire expansion. Bunshin is the fourth Mudra.

[gaunt star]

Esteem doesn't count

[pale shuttle]

trueee, i wonder what bard will be in end walker? maybe blood letter upgrade + RoD upgrade?

[stiff charm]

the sus sisters

[maiden lodge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/742643125981413447/842945723498627102/250.png The original from amano

[untold gull]

Yeah, lol, that was the biggest hint but some still go 'maybe it's ancient?' eh no, definitely ancient kinda deal

[cloud basin]

the more edge the better

[gloomy shale]

the hell is a stand?

[brazen stag]

Now that everybody is Reapers and Paladins I can finally play Astrologian.

[cloud basin]

is an jojo referince

[dusky frigate]

It's a motha fcken Jojo reference

[untold gull]

God, yes. I was watching the stream and uncultured people are like FFX!?

[pale shuttle]

i hope everyone and their mom doesn’t become reaper xd just like how dark knights popped up because it was the only edge lord class then it inevitable sadly

[maiden lodge]

And im like 'that's LITERALLY a reference to Amano's art!'

[shell merlin]

Reminder for those bunny boy doubters
You were wrong

[gaunt star]

that was also my first guess was from 10 then I remembered magus sisters was well before lol

[stiff charm]

dammit the new merch seems to confirm that we are never getting rid of fog of war

[deft burrow]

I am definitely switching to Reaper after I finish MSQ as Dragoon.

[cloud basin]

what's wrong with having a little edge?

[gloomy shale]

They just need an edgy healer and it will complete the trifecta

[brazen stag]

We get Magus Sisters but when do we get the Dream Stooges?

[shell merlin]

@deft burrow reaper gonna be new melee main ez

[untold gull]

Too sharp

[pale shuttle]

To counteract that they better make Reaper skill ceiling high :) because they did have to play through shadow bringers and learn mechanics

[maiden lodge]

The real questions

[brazen stag]

Edgy healer is Scholar cutting itself.

[gaunt star]

But Sage uses cutting Edge technology

[dusky frigate]

Just gotta remember not to break down your gear once you get upgrades lol

[deft burrow]

Yeah!

[maiden lodge]

Also, they got us so many FF4 minions now but

[brazen stag]

Since Sage stole all its shields.

[pale shuttle]

I hope there’s a super high skill ceiling for those who want to be real dedicated true edge lords

[shell merlin]

I already main DRK
Dunno how ima be edgy as a bunnyboi tho

[gloomy shale]

I guess Sage would be the edgiest of all the healers

[cloud basin]

just cuz I like wearing all black doesn't mean I'm an edge lord! (tho I accept the title nonetheless)

[pale shuttle]

I will 100% push myself to master the living crap out of reaper

[maiden lodge]

Where is our Spoony Bard?

[dusky frigate]

You are the spoony bard.

[maiden lodge]

And it can't be called the Wind-up Edward

It HAS to be called 'Spoony Bard'

[cloud basin]

https://tenor.com/view/jelian-mercado-girl-same-i-feel-ya-gif-11265207

[gaunt star]

I am in this boat with you

[maiden lodge]

ngl part of me is tempted to take up the scythe.

[pale shuttle]

once you become and edge lord you can’t go back

[brazen stag]

Yes, Botany time!

[maiden lodge]

But they'd have to really derp up RDM to do that, I'm not giving up the rapier

[gaunt star]

I wonder how positionals will affect it's gameplay

[brazen stag]

That island ain't gonna harvest itself!

[deft burrow]

Really looking forward to Reaper tbh

[cloud basin]

take an step even furthur! buy the Collectors edition and get that black and red scythe

[maiden lodge]

you get bonus potency

[gaunt star]

I am MAILING my wallet to Yoshi-P PERSONALLY

[dim sigil]

Interesting comment I found that kind of lays it out

[gaunt star]

the question was Is it gonna be similar to SAM, NIN, DRG or all 3?

[dim sigil]

What if its like reaper 😳

[pale shuttle]

don’t think much, if it’s positionals for reaper i hope it has a bit more positionals than samurai but not as many as monk and doesn’t have to buff up with a 124 like dragoon

[maiden lodge]

whoa calm down on those wild theories pal

[dim sigil]

3 positionals

Drg has 3

[deft burrow]

It looks like it has a burst phase like DRG

[pale shuttle]

are there any front positionals lol?

[deft burrow]

no

[stiff charm]

Life of the Reaper

[chilly bluff]

https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/product/636795/final-fantasy-xiv-behelmeted-serpent-of-ronka-plushie

[austere badge]

When does the pre-order end?

[gloomy shale]

Did reaper move at all for positionals in trailer?

[gaunt star]

yeah this is what I was thinking, like if the positionals have anything to do with that burst

[dim sigil]

November 19th

[chilly bluff]

[clever flume]

when endwalkers launches

[pale shuttle]

on release of EW

[stiff charm]

no but its probably unfinished. they dont know yet

[austere badge]

Thabks

[maiden lodge]

you chuckle but originally yes.

[deft burrow]

Maybe, I think the positionals could be used to charge up a meter to be used for a burst phase.

[stiff charm]

what

[brazen stag]

Actually... that scythe attack where you reach forward and pull towards yourself could easily be a front positional, kwek

[pale shuttle]

like samurai?

[maiden lodge]

1.0, first attack for most jobs was a frontal.

[deft burrow]

Yeah similar

[cloud basin]

how is the job not finished YET? I think they limit on what to show

[stiff charm]

yes please punish people for not doing positionals i beg you

[stiff charm]

the expansion is still 6 months off. balance happens near the end of development

[deft burrow]

Yes, the only class to have a big punishment for missing positionals is DRG because you lose potency AND you lose Raiden Thrust

[gaunt star]

we saw maybe one combo plus it's burst, I'd reckon it needs more polish before the job showcase

[pale shuttle]

feel like scythe definitely should have a front positional, because slashing the enemy in the face is what a reaper does

[maiden lodge]

It's six months out from the release date, how is it wierd that the last content to fit into place isn't done yet?

[vital topaz]

How does a gun scythe work?

[gaunt star]

get it's ankles >:L I WANT HIS TOES

[cloud basin]

I mean, something like positionals seemn to be an core part of an job no?

[stiff charm]

slice into stomach, shoot gun, pull out

[maiden lodge]

No, not really.

[gaunt star]

very stupidly

[pale shuttle]

I think they’re going to fine tune the living crap out of reaper it’s a super hyped job and if they let it down it’d kinda suck

[cloud basin]

THAT should be done by now no?

[pale shuttle]

but knowing their past performance with jobs we won’t be let down at all

[cloud basin]

oh well, tho I guess they could do a lot in 6 months and add positionals >.>

[maiden lodge]

positionals are the least important part, those are best done after you figure out the action flow, which won't even be close to done yet.

[stiff charm]

im sorry to say the areas likely arent finished yet either. neither is the music, neither is anything else. development happens all the way up to release

[pale shuttle]

and they said it’ll be it’s own unique class like no other in any of the final fantasy series imo that requires alot of time since they’re also making it involved with the end walker story

[dim sigil]

Does reaper use old gnb sound effects?

[gaunt star]

At least they're upfront with it, other developers are like "look it's finished, believe this totally not CG footage :)"

[cloud basin]

eh, I guess I hope they don't add positionals T^T it will be an pain to learn that

[gaunt star]

Wouldn't be a melee without at least one

[stiff charm]

no, i dont hear any

[pale shuttle]

Since EW is closing off all the past expansions and endgame (End Walker is basically avengers end game) where all the past events come together in one final battle

[maiden lodge]

it's a melee, get dancing

[deft burrow]

Every melee class has positionals so it has a 100% chance of having a positional.

[dim sigil]

Positionals is really aren't that bad

[pale shuttle]

^^^^

[unreal gale]

Ye, it’s only annoying on MNK.

[dim sigil]

Once you figure out the job flow and then you can just do positionals follow into place pretty easily

[deft burrow]

Yeah

[gloomy shale]

the positionals are basically move left or right 1 step

[stiff charm]

positionals are unironically easier than using buffs on time

[maiden lodge]

The game is designed to keep you from standing in one sweet spot and forcing you to move even when it feel like you don't want to, to create challenge and tension.

[deft burrow]

I wonder what the damage will be like for the class

[sharp sonnet]

As a person who slept through the stream
Are they fixing viera/hrothgar or do they keep ignoring them but add more broken stuff?

[cloud basin]

eh, I will take yo all word for it XD but I did made an oath of mastering the Scythe!! \

[dim sigil]

If it wasn't for positionals you would be standing still most of the time also like really take notice when playing how often you actually move

[gaunt star]

They added male viera :))

[wind bough]

They're adding male Viera.

[pale shuttle]

if you don’t like positionals / suck at them start with Samurai! Samurai positionals are super simple and they will ease you into moving around and knowing when to! Samurai is my forst positional job lol and current main, it only has 2 positionals

[gaunt star]

nothing said about hats

[pulsar yacht]

Im hoping its just rear positionals for maximum shove weapon up arse but i did 5.0 msq as drg so I'll live

[sharp sonnet]

So they keep ignoring the old broken mistakes, lovely

[gloomy shale]

do male vieras have the same race model as Elezen?

[maiden lodge]

'only rear' kinda defeats the purpose.

[pale shuttle]

^^^

[gaunt star]

I'm holding out hope for vieras that they'll do Something

[dim sigil]

They did its called boys

[wind bough]

no

[gaunt star]

Something that'll solve the hat problem*

[maiden lodge]

They're not ignoring the issue, even before covid happened they'd already said they likely wouldn't find the workflow time necessary to get anyone on the problem.

[gaunt star]

or at LEAST use the premium hairs, that's the shittiest part

[maiden lodge]

Then covid happened, and the 'hat problem' got even more deprioritized.

[cloud basin]

you should pay atention, they are fixing the races by adding the bigest part players ask! they can't add the F big cat yet so it looks like they will end up fixing the hats wayy later

[vivid notch]

gods I really really really hope we get a full version of the Stormblood song part of the Endwalkers song

[pulsar yacht]

I mean a trick attack bootleg that just does crits

[cold drift]

im sry im still kicking myself for missing out on the Physical CE ><

[stiff charm]

wouldnt be surprised if the final fight was 4 phase or some shit

[dim sigil]

Spoiler alert we won't

[maiden lodge]

We call that Bootshine.

[sharp sonnet]

Pretty sure they wouldn't
Implementing new expack is more important

Objectively so

[gaunt star]

bootshine doesn't apply a debuff

[pale shuttle]

bard better get an ability that spreads it’s dots to other enemies like summoner xd

[maiden lodge]

shrugs

[vivid notch]

I mean the og song is like 40 seconds long so yeah

[cold drift]

but from what people are saying it's unlikely they will restock it will they

[vivid notch]

but this one has new lyrics so that makes me hopeful that like, there's a version of all of those songs and the trailer one

[tropic frigate]

hrothgar reaper having no hat appear on him for the art is pretty ironic

[dim sigil]

Is it me tho or does cgi gra ha look off

[cloud basin]

so you know what's more inportant that some hats? also they did hear the players loud an clear about the missing gender on the race, just wait and keep asking for the hats and we might get it sooner

[maiden lodge]

Hey, they heard our feedback of being tired of hearing 'storm of blood born from blood of my fallen brothers'

[gaunt star]

I immediately thought of that

[maiden lodge]

'Okay we have different stuff now' 'you sunnuva bitch im in'

[stiff charm]

phase 1 ultima
phase 2 nidhogg/thordan
phase 3 shinryu
phase 4 ??? hades?? wol???
phase 5 zenodiark

[onyx mango]

Woke up and saw male bunnies are a thing, did they mention female hroth?

[stiff charm]

coming "later"

[deft burrow]

It is confirmed and will be released at a "later" time

[wind bough]

Confirmed to be in the works but not in 6.0

[open heron]

coming later

[stiff charm]

could mean 6.x could mean 7.0 we dont know

[vivid notch]

also Vritra looks SICK

[tropic frigate]

they mentioned female hroth would happen some other time but that they do want to do it

[stiff charm]

limited race releasing in 6.5

[vivid notch]

!faq firstbrood

[lusty shadow]

The 7 children of Midgardsomr making the First Brood.

[maiden lodge]

They did. It will not be available for Endwalker, but Yoshi-P HARD promised it will be done. So expect 7.0.

[onyx mango]

Kinda sucks but happy for male bunnies at least. Also reaper looks sick as shit

[gaunt star]

It'd actually be pretty cool to fight something Lunar Alexander, and maybe as a stretch Lunar Omega, although I'd like more original concepts

[stiff charm]

they said not available on endwalkers release, so im hoping 6.3-6.5

[vivid notch]

I wonder if we'll see Azdaja

[stiff charm]

inb4 new world

[vivid notch]

🙏

[brazen stag]

Ah yes, Lunar Alexander. Also known as Giant of Babel?

[maiden lodge]

He didn't even say 'we want to do it eventually.' He hard promised it will be done. Yoshi P rarely hard commits ike that.

[vivid notch]

or Meracydia, either one of those I'd be happy for 7.0

[pale shuttle]

Welp Ik what ik doing before end walker release, Finish shadow bringers, get all classes to 80, max current main Samurai, clear all blue quests remaining then farm cosmetics and mounts xd

[onyx mango]

Also anyone know what gear reaper will share with? DRG or MNK/SAM

[vivid notch]

DRG

[gaunt star]

I've never played 4, so if that's something that's feasible, I'd be down for it

[maiden lodge]

Im not expecting it that fast, and if they surprise me, I'll be happy.

[pale shuttle]

Once reaper comes out fullllll throttle reaper optimization

[vivid notch]

I just want the Four Fiends 🙏

[onyx mango]

Sweet maiming sets are best

[deft burrow]

yep

[stiff charm]

fandanny + trial series

[vivid notch]

I like that we already have a BIS for Reaper

[sharp sonnet]

Nah, i want to have more than 7 hairstyles
Can put up with living without a pointy hat
Would be adorable tho with ears poking out of that sort of headgear ngl

[cloud basin]

DRG for armor

[vivid notch]

!faq reaperbis

[lusty shadow]

The Edge is Calling Tonight

[gaunt star]

I'm just glad the new alliance raid will be an original concept, as cool as NieR is, it really wasn't my cup of tea

[tropic frigate]

the 24 man series is pretty interesting to me because it depends how they'd do it

[vivid notch]

nooo don't sully them with fandanny D:

[pale shuttle]

“Social distance, 6 feet apart” LMAOOO

[onyx mango]

Crazy how we got a stand user class

[dim sigil]

Honestly I'm happy they're finally tackling the 12

Like that is something that I was wanting to get covered finally eventually

[stiff charm]

all jobs will have stands in endwalker. remember the cat for blm?

[pale shuttle]

we have summoner, basically pokemon stand user

[vivid notch]

I mean we kinda already had 2, 4 if you count the pet classes after Shadowbringer

[stiff charm]

they have been otherwise engaged

[vivid notch]

the other two other than SMN and SCH are DRK and NIN

[gaunt star]

ooh, that looks cool, it'd be nice if that was one of the trials

[onyx mango]

[vivid notch]

play FFIV, it's great

[onyx mango]

Also rip DPS queue time

[maiden lodge]

So--TOWER OF ZOT hmmmm?

[vivid notch]

up until the moon anyway, but before the moon it's great

[dim sigil]

I downloaded a emulators so I can go back and replay the GBA version of ff4 since that's been most nostalgic for

[gaunt star]

So i've heard, I just find it kinda hard to get into older FF titles

[stiff charm]

tower of zot music played during the dungeon preview

[brazen stag]

[maiden lodge]

I was like 'YOU MANIACS YOU DID IT' I didn't know I needed that.

[onyx mango]

E-emulators? Yes officer, that's the criminal right there.

[maiden lodge]

The second I head that opening bar I was 'I'm done!'

[stiff charm]

pictured: zodiark

[cold drift]

i just hate it that i missed out-- wish i could turn back time and get a chance to pre-order it

[bold condor]

🤔

[brazen stag]

Reaper? Meet WEAVER.

[potent marsh]

never trust a lalafell the smiles like that

[onyx mango]

Damn, bunny hombre gon be short

[potent marsh]

shes in league with fandaniel all along

[stiff charm]

as it should be

[obsidian pagoda]

I told you, twink buns

[dim sigil]

I love how Tataru is just front and center

[tropic frigate]

im glad they actually are changing the size differences for once

[vital brook]

Dem Sharlayan uniforms do be looking nice

[dusky frigate]

I thought it was established that females were taller than males

[maiden lodge]

lolno

[cold drift]

what full image for endwalker

[gaunt star]

Tataru is the reaper mentor

[lone tendon]

Nah, female Viera just freakishly tall

[inner halo]

🌊 Oceania DC 🌊

[potent marsh]

and just like australia, its gonna be mostly wilderness

[dim sigil]

Roes are taller then fem bun

[gaunt star]

I do wonder how reaper will be introduced

[inner halo]

Raiding Oceania for road to 80

[maiden lodge]

yall say 'bunnybois' and me over here saying 'ManFrans'

[gaunt star]

Job wise, from the questline, I mean

[onyx mango]

Cant wait for there to be an Australian filled world and NZ filled world that has beef with each other

[vivid notch]

anyone was able to tell the lyrics of the new part of the Stormblood song?

All I got was:
Storm of blood,
Born from blood
Of our fallen brothers,

???
??? (All's fulfilled, maybe?)
Now we go for(or got our) freedom

Born in blood
Stained in red
Bound for ???

[dim sigil]

It has to be in a realm reborn so you can't really do anything to special which introduction

[pale shuttle]

You can get reaper with no story requirements just pick up the level 70 job quest in Ul’ dah on release

[dim sigil]

I hear like "And we make our stand" during the storm blood part

[gaunt star]

I meant in the lore of the game, who the mentor will be/look like

[brazen stag]

The Australians will be rejoined and can finally escape from their prison on the moon.

[maiden lodge]

Though, being level 70 and only doing ARR what are you... snack?

[pale shuttle]

ohhh yeah true! :P

[vital topaz]

When will we get the OST Version of the EW Theme?

[obsidian pagoda]

There was an "Oaths fulfilled now we something freedom"

[potent marsh]

it probably starts with some weirdo hobo offering us a jobstone

[brazen stag]

Watch it be the fuckin' carnies!

[pale shuttle]

Who are the writers for reaper? It better be the people who wrote drk story line >___<

[gaunt star]

I would unironically like this

[vivid notch]

I hope it's the friend ghost that teaches, like Fray did for DRK

[potent marsh]

"hey kid, you want a soul stone"

[past pelican]

Did they say more about content Plan? Like dungeon raid whise?

[maiden lodge]

sounds like the rest of them ngl

[deft burrow]

At least we'll have Bozja to level from 71-80 when new classes are released

[gaunt star]

"Got some RAAARE things in store for you, stranger"

[wind bough]

Storm of blood, born from blood of our fallen brothers
Time stands still, oaths fulfilled, now we (???) for freedom!
Born in blood, stained in red, bound from blood, (???) fed?
Coming ????, hand in hand, ??? the light, forge ahead
FORWARD (screeeeeeeam!)

[pale shuttle]

becomes chronic edgelord after getting soul stone

[stuck yarrow]

I don't know about you all, but i for one am glad the fem reaper gear is sluttier than the male one

[dim sigil]

Clean version probably isn't dropping until Game launch and even then not official be just the music roll that people are going to upload on YouTube

[vivid notch]

ooo oaths fulfilled, thank you!

so like,
Storm of blood,
Born from blood
Of our fallen brothers,

???
Oaths fulfilled
Now we go for(or got our) freedom

Born in blood
Stained in red
Bound for ???

[tribal sail]

That trailer is goddamn

[vivid notch]

tyty

[maiden lodge]

pornographic is what it is

[wet crown]

I find it funny how they didn't want to reveal the twins' dad despite everyone knowing who it is

[brazen stag]

Continental Circus breaks down and is like "hey kid, help us get back to the Void and we'll give you this pretty rock and a free Voidsent!"

[gloomy shale]

Is there even a spell they an add that is more powerful than the one they added for BLM last expansion?

[maiden lodge]

you know there's that one guy in the audience who'd cry if it were spoiled

[dim sigil]

It's okay just go smash your head against the wall

[wet crown]

A whole bunch

[vital topaz]

I once thought it impossible to top ShB...I was wrong.

[gaunt star]

MINI-METEOR, GO!!

[gloomy shale]

I thought the one they added was hella powerful

[sage thicket]

If I had to fancy a guess

[dim sigil]

Adding in themes from all the expansions definitely gives it a big finale feeling

[maiden lodge]

There's a whole ton canonical in the lore we've been hit in the face with that are. Xenoglossy and Despair aren't even 'best in class'

[sonic bone]

alienware ad

[wet crown]

Xenoglossy or Despair?

[gloomy shale]

xeno i think

[pale shuttle]

I SWEAR REAPER BETTER HAVE AN EASTER EGG SAYING “Social Distancing” just like Yoshi P in the fanfest lmao

[wary perch]

Sponsorship advert time

[wet crown]

Well, Demi-Ultima and Ultima are on a higher level than anything BLM has right now

[maiden lodge]

Anything with 'Ancient' in the title is probably a massive slap

[vivid notch]

man I really hope that we get a full version of it, it's so hype

[gaunt star]

Watch them add Choco Meteor

[somber storm]

[maiden lodge]

BLU did

[pale shuttle]

Points scythe at you Says “I don’t have many friends stay away, Social distancing” lool

[brazen stag]

An attack that drags the enemy closer or pulls you closer to them for unmovable enemies.

[vital topaz]

Can we expect to get hit with Ultima when we fight Zodiark?

[somber storm]

He says with his Stand behind him

[gaunt star]

Choco-er meteor-erga

[onyx mango]

Just want a bloodborne hunter glam for reaper

[vivid notch]

mini-meteor

[pale shuttle]

yeeees

[brazen stag]

You will probably be hit with Zodiac.

[deft burrow]

Has the eye of sabbik been explained yet?

[unreal gale]

What’s Naoki’s room?

[vital topaz]

Wtf is Zodiac?

[deft burrow]

or whatever its called

[somber storm]

https://tenor.com/view/haachama-chibi-haato-gif-20258441

[wary perch]

No@deft burrow

[brazen stag]

The summon spell for Zodiark

[vivid notch]

I mean to be fair it's still weaker than dancing

[wet crown]

Heart of Sabik. It's black auracite.

[pale shuttle]

God final fantasy with Yoshi P is the best thing ever couldn’t have asked for a better dedicated owner He even dressed up as a reaper holding a big ass scythe

[deft burrow]

Right, hasn't been explained where it came from yet right?

[wet crown]

Not yet

[gloomy shale]

well I meant like lorewise strong

[onyx mango]

Have they showed off anything for other jobs?

[deft burrow]

No

[potent marsh]

!faq reaperbis

[lusty shadow]

The Edge is Calling Tonight

[deft burrow]

Job trailer will probably come in a few months if I had to guess

[wet crown]

job actions trailer will come in a few months

[wary perch]

If it ever get explained, it will likely be in 6.0

[vivid notch]

watch them add Zettaflare

[onyx mango]

dang I just want to see if there will be a new summon

[deft burrow]

possibly

[austere raptor]

Do you guys think we'll have the same ping or the new dcs ping during DC visit?

[vivid notch]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-kh-zettaflare-donald-donald-duck-kingdom-hearts-gaming-gif-17360332

[vital topaz]

I find it funny how the world is burning in EW, yet Lahabrea is just chilling in Pandaemonium and laughing, watching everything burn to a crisp due to Zenos and Fandaniel.

[brazen stag]

What was the spell Zodiark casts in FFXII? Banish?

[pale shuttle]

Ley Lines 2: Bigger radius

[deft burrow]

We know they are planning on reworking the SMN rotation

So I expect it to receive some big changes

[wet crown]

the job, not the rotation

[vital topaz]

I bet Emet and Elidibus are fucking pissed in the lifestream because of Fandaniel's shenanigans.

[deft burrow]

They wanted to rework how the job felt to play, specifically mentioned the 2 minute rotation.

[sharp sonnet]

Say bye bye to pets (potentially)

[vivid notch]

this keynote has made me want to replay FFIV, just don't know which version to go for this time

GBA, SNES or DS

[gloomy shale]

They are reworking SMN rotation, ok that has me hyped

[vital topaz]

How would summoner even function without pets?

[pale shuttle]

Can’t wait the summoner job seems super hard to me keeping up dots and trances its too much for my smooth brain

[gaunt star]

the only thing I could ask for from the other jobs is do something with the NIN rabbit

[vivid notch]

how it already does KEKW

[grave jackal]

Anyone know what's the song after the heavenward part in the endwalker full trailer?

[wet crown]

By making pets pure particles effects

[vivid notch]

!faq smnrotation

[lusty shadow]

Error!

No tag named smnrotation exists, Kupo!

[vital topaz]

Why would you even want to get rid of pets?

[sharp sonnet]

Funky ai prolly

[pale shuttle]

Because stupid ai

[wet crown]

because pets are laggy

[deft burrow]

Bahamut needs to be fixed

[gaunt star]

The pet on SMN is basically summon it and basically forget it until it starts doing stupid shit. If anything, it's a detriment

[silent hazel]

are we getting any info on combat changes

[pale shuttle]

AI is super crap for pets

[gloomy shale]

Just make the pet you summon give a damage buff and thats it, they are annoying to use

[wet crown]

Bahamut and Phoenix have a range of 100y but have disgusting abandonment issues

[vivid notch]

SMN is not that hard, it's actually pretty simple. It's just "Ruin II until you have 4 Ruin IVs; Spend your Ruin IVs in your Trances; Keep using your OGCDs whenever you can"

[rough kestrel]

Anyone else having issues pre-ordering Digital CE? My Country and address are in the SE Store account info but when I go to purchase, I cant do it without reaffirming my country which is suddenly not listed.

[gaunt star]

you best not be using ruin 4 in your firebird

[potent marsh]

zodiark is gonna start off by casting darkja, killing people randomly and indescriminately then blinding the rest

[wary perch]

I hope they make summoner pet into junction form in lv90

[pale shuttle]

probably traffic issues due to aloot of people buying it?

[potent marsh]

pls look foward to it - yoship

[sonic bone]

w h a t

[wary perch]

lol this ads

[rough kestrel]

@pale shuttle I dont see how, almost every country in the region is listed but mine so I cant finish the purchase

[vivid notch]

my keyboard has two special buttons that only get used during firebird and I only ever press those buttons fuck reapplying dots or moving

[wary perch]

Irl tataru

[pale shuttle]

summoner with an mmo mouse feels like cheating

[strange summit]

Guys, I'm happy

[pale shuttle]

and mmo mouse in general feels like a cheat code lol, i only got mine 3 days ago and im in love

[vivid notch]

YO if the Stormblood portion of the song is Zenos' final boss theme that would be so fucking hype

[gaunt star]

if you have to reapply dots entering firebird, your tri disaster is broken

[vivid notch]

I also lowkey want Zenos to become a friend

[sharp sonnet]

Oh yes can we just finish that guy for him to never return

[pale shuttle]

zenos better be a long fight not like MSQ boss easy peasy

[vivid notch]

Trial boss pls

[rich phoenix]

I'm curious, why is that? It feels like he is too unstable and malicious without a deus ex machina personality fix.

[potent marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJXxZh2oXH0

[vivid notch]

exactly

[pale shuttle]

there better not be a dues ex machina

[gaunt star]

maybe dying and killing his dad humbled him? I'unno

Even if it's weird, it'd be pretty neat I think lol

[rich phoenix]

Clearly it hasn't, he's more murderous and crazy than ever.

[vivid notch]

fucking lmao I love that

"oh you thought you could Naruto me, fucker?"

[gaunt star]

I wasn't trying to be sarcastic, it's the only thing I can come up with

[vivid notch]

I want him to be just as crazy psycho as he is now but also on my side

[rich phoenix]

I hadn't even considered you were being sarcastic, although I could have included an emoticon to indicate my lightheartedness.

[rain badger]

w8 they're removing pets from smn?

[wind bough]

To be clear again, here is all Yoshida actually said about summoner changes:

Naoki Yoshida:
Currently summoner as a job is reaching somewhat of a breaking point when it comes to the overall play mechanics, so we’ve halted work on Egi glamour for the time being in order to shift focus. There is a reason behind this, but we can’t share the details with you at the moment. When the time comes, I’ll be sure to properly share that information with everyone.

[gaunt star]

ah, sorry I usually assume people using proper grammar are starting an argument
the internet has ruined me

[rich phoenix]

Stupid question, if you'll forgive me: is someone going to be trying to translate the next panel? If so, where?

[woven escarp]

how did I miss this?

[rich phoenix]

Oh no problem, that makes sense. I'm just old lol

[rain badger]

I mean I wouldn't mind them turning pets into summoner particles tbh. It'd be like yuna from dissidia where she litreally summons a different aeon for every attack

[clever flume]

#translations-and-liveletters

[brazen stag]

Summoner is now Morpher. This was always the correct choice.

[vivid notch]

when's reaper ghost glamour

[potent marsh]

so which summon are we getting now? maybe they'll turn phoenix into a more aoe summon and the next one will be primarily st.

[gaunt star]

11.0

[vivid notch]

PepeHands

[potent marsh]

so you can have a aoe summoner form and a st form after bahamut?

[gaunt star]

when the next arc finishes lmao

[vivid notch]

still earlier than Ala Mhigo housing

[rich phoenix]

WOW I am sorry, thank you so much. Too tired and losing the fight against ADHD

[brazen stag]

Yo where is my Idyllshire Housing?

[cold drift]

so who here got lucky and pre-ordered the Physical CE? i would sell my soul if they do restock it ><

[gaunt star]

I'd love it if they did more with bahamut, phoenix is cool but I'm crazy for the Dreadwyrm

[potent marsh]

golden bahamut lets go

bahamut releases his inner rage

[gaunt star]

6.1, look forward to it

[wide pilot]

time for me to speed run through shadowbringers

[brazen stag]

Yeah now that Tiamat is free we should probably update the demibahamut.

[pulsar yacht]

Probably incremental upgrades to smn unless a lot of skills get streamlined for common pet skills and common demi skills

[gloomy shale]

might as well add Anima as a summon for SMN would be dope

[gaunt star]

Bro Zenos is 100% teaming up with us in Endwalker, he’s on the poster with all the Scions and he’s a playable job because he’s gonna be a Trust. The madmen are actually gonna do it.

[potent marsh]

don't, you have literal months, like its coming out at the end of November.

[cold drift]

im sry im just agitated with myself for missing out

[wide pilot]

I know i'm joking

[vivid notch]

gods I want to see the job trailer

[rich phoenix]

Emet was on the ShD posters too.

[potent marsh]

????

[cobalt palm]

Hi, I think I miss out on endwalker purchase discussion from YouTube. Will there be a endwalker disc or no?

[wary perch]

Villain has appeared on every expansion poster iirc

[cold drift]

where can i find the poster unless someone has the image

[unreal gale]

No disc, since 85% of purchases were digital.

[potent marsh]

disc's got ps3'd

[cobalt palm]

Woah, this is a first

[vivid notch]

fuck yeah the main character in the center as it should be

[torpid yoke]

fckn love this shot

[cobalt palm]

Don’t see any villain, but I do see potential to be

[rich phoenix]

Zenos is on the poster

[gaunt star]

Nah we teaming up with Zenos 100%, I will believe in it so much it has no choice but to be true

[potent marsh]

they had to put tataru in the front cause shes the real main character of endwalker

[unreal gale]

Who’s the girl on the top..?

[vivid notch]

careful looking at that, might start having some strange ideas

[pine epoch]

Anyone got a pic of the floating island that's definitely not Zeal

[wide pilot]

reminds me of willy wonka's factory

[gaunt star]

Most likely Vanat

[deft burrow]

Most likely Venat

[vivid notch]

I didn't find a way to fit a good Uzumaki joke

[cobalt palm]

Oh

[cold drift]

why is she at the top

[potent marsh]

we don't know but it could be minfilla

[deft burrow]

She's the heart of Hydaelyn like how Elidibus was the heart of Zodiark

[clever flume]

for reference of the other two artworks. Stormblood had yotsuyu and zenos, heavensward had thordan. so zenos being on ew's artwork doesn't mean he's gonna be friendly lol

[unreal gale]

Cool, I hope we get to destroy her as well.

[potent marsh]

wait elidibus was the heart of zodiark?

[deft burrow]

Yes

[potent marsh]

what does that even mean though?

[deft burrow]

He was used as essentially a catalyst for Zodiark's power

[bold condor]

He was Zodiark's core, the person around whom he was built.

[brazen stag]

It means he was the heart of Zodiark and that Zodiark's heart was Elidibus.

[potent marsh]

then... uhhh... is zodiark dead then?

[gaunt star]

I was just memeing mostly but I still believe in my theory since Yoshi said the poster features the Scions and left it at that, but don’t worry I know it’s most likely wrong. For some reason people can’t understand that you are allowed to speculate without actually being 100% committed to your own speculation.

[rich phoenix]

Am I the only one who thinks psychotic war criminal Zenos doing a 180 and hanging out with the scions like BFFs sounds like a budget rate shounen anime?

[bold condor]

Not quite. Deprived of His heart and the will of Elidibus, yes.

[bold condor]

Who suggested that lmao

[deft burrow]

We think that Zodiark is locked inside the moon

[midnight fossil]

Zenos becoming a scion would be stupid as hell

[bold condor]

We know he is. We've known this since HW.

[clever flume]

i mean i figured you were mostly memeing, just confirming what someone else said tho. in that villians have been on the artwork

[deft burrow]

Yeah

[potent marsh]

people are just shit posting

[midnight fossil]

I wouldn't quit but I would complain about it forever

[vivid notch]

is Zodiark made of cheese, then?

[gaunt star]

I said we might team up with Zenos in EW but it wouldn’t be a buddy buddy situation if it happened, more like Goku and Vegeta. Reluctant cooperation

[midnight fossil]

Fuck Zenos

[brazen stag]

We hang out with enough war criminals already, and they're not the psychotic ones.

[gaunt star]

You gotta have a really high IQ to appreciate Zenos so I understand

[vivid notch]

wait Rommy is not lore mentor anymore?

[deft burrow]

Gaius is no where to be seen :)

[gaunt star]

I do see him being a trust, since they don't make a ton of sense anyways

[vivid notch]

F

[potent marsh]

tbf, gaius pretty much did.

[timid solstice]

Gaius arc ended right

[wide pilot]

geneva convention? more like geneva suggestion

[deft burrow]

Yeah kinda, he still wants revenge for what Zenos did to the Emperor

[gloomy shale]

wait did zenos reroll his job to reaper ? wasn't he a SAM?

[deft burrow]

Yes

[rich phoenix]

Gaius was having second thoughts about the empire and his actions way back in 1.0.

[potent marsh]

no, hes definitely going to be a big part of END

[tribal sail]

so is reaper a dps or tank cuz I'm reading both on the reddit post

[gaunt star]

he’s reaper cuz he’s gonna be a Trust kappa

[errant phoenix]

melee dps

[vivid notch]

yeah lmao, the eorzean dictionary entry for "war crimes" has a Gaius picture instead of a description

[gaunt star]

confirmed Melee DPS

[deft burrow]

Its a melee dps that will use maiming armour (DRG)

[potent marsh]

he was a brutal facist dictator for 20 years in ala migho

[deft burrow]

You win some you lose some, better than the Ascians

[gloomy shale]

who is stronger in the lore DRG or RPR you think?

[tribal sail]

I guess dps queues will be even longer in endwalker so, time to level gunblade

[timid solstice]

So looking at the reaper

[deft burrow]

We have no lore for the Reaper so I mean...

[gaunt star]

It is

[errant phoenix]

machinist

[timid solstice]

Some defo looks like they anim lock you, which means potential for floor tank #2

[potent marsh]

i know its gonna be bad so now i gotta go and level a tank again to get through the msq

40 minute long dungeon queues arent worth it

[gaunt star]

floor off-tank

[tribal sail]

I hope they will allow us to use trust for endwalker dungeons

[timid solstice]

They defo will

[unreal gale]

I assume they will, ye.

[deft burrow]

I'm gonna go through msq with fc members so queue times will be fast, gonna stick with DRG through it then switch to Reaper from then on.

[deft burrow]

They will 100%

[unreal gale]

I joined this expansion. Is it possible to pick up a new job before reading MSQ, or is MSQ a job prerequisite?

[rich phoenix]

I'm not denying Gaius is absolutely a war criminal I'm saying he and Zenos are apples and oranges because Gaius has a conscience and Zenos is like antisocial personality disorder killing himself in front of the person he is obsessed with.

[deft burrow]

You can get the job at the beginning without doing the current expac msq

[timid solstice]

I hope reaper ends with 2 dots, anim locking skills, and 2 minutes rotation with 0 chance of recover upon dying

[unreal gale]

Cool, might go through with it as Reaper, then. Thanks.

[deft burrow]

As long as you have a job leveled to the starting level of the class

[timid solstice]

Oh yeah, and avatar ghosting

[potent marsh]

https://preview.redd.it/zv0nkc7iv6z61.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=9f21d2d07b303abbfe40e3401b1f8d7fe2b52f7f it all makes sense now

[gaunt star]

A small handful of jobs are locked behind MSQ but most are just locked behind having to be a certain level before you can pick it up

[deft burrow]

But keep in mind, Endwalker will start at level 80 for msq so you will need to level Reaper from 70 to 80 before using it in msq

[gloomy shale]

so Reaper and Sage will be lvl 60?

[tropic frigate]

yep

[kindred rampart]

https://youtu.be/JeYIlET3szA

[deft burrow]

70

[potent marsh]

bozja becomes suddenly overpopulated with dps mains

[wide pilot]

they might have a skip, idk if they do it for new classes

[gaunt star]

I'll just be happy to level something again, I tried with alts but it's just not fun anymore

[deft burrow]

It will be the best way to level, yeah lol

[tropic frigate]

im gonna be speed leveling to 80 with my brother as we both will play new classes

[gaunt star]

and it'll make sense, WAR IS THE BEST PLACE FOR SOULS

[gloomy shale]

I always take a dps through the story because the MSQ experience

[rich phoenix]

YES. I didn't really feel like anyone FORGAVE Gaius until the very end of 5.5, they just cooperated with him.

[deft burrow]

yeah

[potent marsh]

my new headcannon is that the ghost is actually the parties dead dragoon

[deft burrow]

I feel like Gaius redeemed himself in 5.5 with the end of the weapons questline

[vivid notch]

I'd like to apologize already because I will be one of the people plugging up the DPS queue because of Reaper

that's my new main right there

[deft burrow]

same

[rain badger]

still gotta level to 80 lol

[pine epoch]

Found it

[unreal gale]

Yeah, the one thing I loved about Gaius was that no one forgave him. Even at the end of the Werlyt questline, his comrades forgave him, but the townpeople remained wary.

[potent marsh]

he didn't really tho, and he knows he can't.

[rain badger]

I'm going to be rushing through MSQ @ -4

[gaunt star]

no one will blame you, it's hyper af

[pine epoch]

This Not Zeal looking fucking floating island

[tropic frigate]

o right this area they never gave us a name to

[vivid notch]

will be buying preorder just for that lmao

I'm gonna be hitting Bozja like a garlean on a warpath

[rich phoenix]

This is why Gaius and Zenos are apples and oranges. Is someone just going to cure Zenos of his psychopathy and yandere BS?

[rain badger]

ya but the people who also bought preorder and aren't leveling new characters won't be in the same queue lol

[timid solstice]

Hear me out. You join a lv 81 dungeon ready to rock after 40 minutes queue as a dps, and your partner dps is a sprout reaper who boosted to lv 80 and never touched the game before. Tank is a dps main who joined only for the fast queue. Sage is actually a smn main with only sch leveled up

[deft burrow]

Yeah its not enough for him to be fully redeemed but in my eyes I think he is trying his best and that's what matters.

[tropic frigate]

also wondering what the final zone will even be at this point

[deft burrow]

Moon

[gaunt star]

honestly, it felt intentional

[tropic frigate]

we got the moon already though yea?

[deft burrow]

Inside the moon will be final zone

[vivid notch]

I mean I feel like there's some crimes you do that no amount of redemption can redeem

Gaius has done some shit

[potent marsh]

i better see a dungeon up there thats about as trippy as aumorot

[tropic frigate]

that is true

[timid solstice]

Is WoL a war criminal

[vivid notch]

yes

[potent marsh]

cause my first steps into aumorot literally had my head spinning with all the explosion and meteors, like i was almost shell shocked for a moment

[vivid notch]

like the only way to do some form of redemption for certain characters is to kill them, like with Emet

[tropic frigate]

i just wanna see how much they pull and if we get more content than usual

[vivid notch]

after what that guy did there's no turning a new leaf no matter how tragic the backstory is lmao

[timid solstice]

What if the last dungeon in EW is a moon and you walk upside down for half of the map

[deft burrow]

Well it will include the x.1-x.3 patches

[rich phoenix]

You're right. But you can become tolerable instead of "you deserve to be executed or in jail."

[potent marsh]

reverse controls to

[vivid notch]

yeah

[deft burrow]

in 6.0 so it will be more content

[winged hill]

So guesses on the lore explanation for male viera. I say they're the same kind of defectors the girls are.

[vivid notch]

don't get me wrong I love Emet and Gaius but they are still very much villains imo

[deft burrow]

Or maybe the whole planet being destroyed thing made them come out

[rich phoenix]

same, completely.

[potent marsh]

im sure they are able to sneak through the wired fence

[vivid notch]

mommy let them out as long as they wear their collars like the good boys they are

[potent marsh]

some of them anyways, it wasn't long before the femvieras put up a watch tower

[gaunt star]

I know the villains showed up in previous posters but the title for the art work poster they showed off is just titled “Scions” so like... who knows what they’re doing with Zenos is all I’m saying, could have a Dante/Virgil situation going on or Vegeta/Goku

[tropic frigate]

he better die

[unreal gale]

Well if he dies, he’s getting revived.

[tribal sail]

also I'm glad graha is back

[timid solstice]

Gotta kill him Ardbert style

[winged hill]

Auracite his ass

[gaunt star]

I bet Ishikawa makes people like Zenos

[deft burrow]

Technically Zenos stopped Varis from using the Black Rose, saving the entire world from millions of deaths.

[rich phoenix]

Oh yeah Zenos is the FF14 Kylo Ren, it's creepy.

[vivid notch]

It'd be very funny to me if Zenos wasn't even redeemed, just started hanging out with the scions

[unreal gale]

Shrug. Zenos could be redeemed. I don’t care for his story thus far, and he’s ugly. We’ll see.

[vivid notch]

like Emet KEKW

[winged hill]

Zenos is cool tho. He has my respect

[potent marsh]

if i'm gonna genocide millions, im gonna fucking do it myself - goodguy zenos

[timid solstice]

Emet the genocider

[vivid notch]

"and he’s ugly" how dare

[deft burrow]

This

[winged hill]

Exactly

[tropic frigate]

the trailer made zenos look more like a guy who likes metal

[vivid notch]

"only pussies use chemical weapons, real men commit genocide with their own hands"

[exotic copper]

Did they confirm reaper as maiming?

[tribal sail]

zenos isnt as good as emet fuck him

[torpid yoke]

Zone in the aetherial sea me thinks :D

[vivid notch]

I love the Master of Masters shot in the trailer

[deft burrow]

Yes

[exotic copper]

Ty

[gaunt star]

That was my first expansion announcement and I’m so ready for this!
Also I watched the Stream for a while now and omg the design ideas and philosophy is actually interesting and not frustrating than in other MMOs looks at blizzard

But still just yesterday i finished ARR so I have soooo much to uncover

[vivid notch]

https://tenor.com/view/kingdom-hearts-heart-luxord-gif-18139221

also obligatory FUCK YOU NOMURA

[deft burrow]

You should mute this chat and spoilers chat or you will miss out on good stuff

[rich phoenix]

You're absolutely right, I'm just saying it sounds weird and potentially bad without a deus ex machina. Also I HATE woobification. I don't want to see Zenos turned into a sad widdle victim who only commit war atrocities because daddy was mean or something.

[vivid notch]

same

I want him to be a piece of shit through and through, redemption or not

[cosmic herald]

I have maxed rep for all beast tribe quests and no SHB tribe alliance quests makes me sad

[gaunt star]

Don’t worry I just wanted to share my thoughts as a new player who has a blast atm!

[timid solstice]

I want his head detached from his body and I want it to be satisfying

[deft burrow]

[exotic copper]

Between Zeno's and the fuccboi ascian we have Zeno's is the more interesting character

[tropic frigate]

exactly i want zenos to die while remaining who he is

[vivid notch]

man if the Stormblood part of the song plays on his boss fight that would be so hype I'd transcend this mortal coil

[tribal sail]

yeah I dont want zenos to start crying and be like boohoo I didnt want this, like bitch you did all of those things without a hesitation

[tropic frigate]

whatever makes ishikawas favorite as fandaniel we may not have seen the last of him

[bold condor]

Guys, we're not teaming up with Zenos, he literally goes out of his way to say that's not what he wants.

[potent marsh]

why didnt we chuck zenos body in the incinerator

[wide pilot]

I know we just got the next expansion coming up, but i'm excited for what comes after in the next story arch for this game

[swift kraken]

if zenos redemption arc happens i will quit the game but i can say with 100% certainty it never will

[bold condor]

He gets off on enmity and violence is the only thing that makes him happy.

[woven escarp]

https://twitter.com/LOVELlTCHl/status/1393410655479160833

Ari ✿/ •.• \ (@LOVELlTCHl)

its the pose

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[rich phoenix]

People keep getting excited about it though.

[winged hill]

Tummy 👀

[swift kraken]

lmfao the classic "oh no i have to draw any non-bossy female character" pose

[tropic frigate]

we could get the uh thaivnair primal at 5.3 for a nice relaxing threat

[vivid notch]

we are going to team up with Zenos
then we are going to fight Zenos
then we are going to kiss Zenos

[rich phoenix]

This is exactly why I said saying "Well Gaius is a war criminal and HE got redeemed" is apples vs Zenos oranges.

[swift kraken]

gaius also wasnt as developed as zenos

[vivid notch]

probably Ganesha ngl

[winged hill]

What if we kissed zenos on the lunar whale😳

[swift kraken]

he was barely a character in arr aside from "yarrr im evil"

[rich phoenix]

He was but more in 1.0

[vivid notch]

though I dunno, I think it's weird to see Lord Ganesha as a boss lmao

[tropic frigate]

yea a few statues may have already hinted at ganesha too

[potent marsh]

don't alot of characters do that gesture? pretty sure ive seen yshtola do it a few times

[deft burrow]

Yeah that's not Minfilia in that pic

[winged hill]

What else is left? Maduin?

[tropic frigate]

they could also make ganeshas motives interesting so it serves as a good boss

[vivid notch]

you know a villain I want to see redeemed?

Nael

bring her back SEnix you cowards

[swift kraken]

slime nael redemption arc where we go on a date or something idk

[rich phoenix]

Gaius wasn't "yarr im evil," that's the half the point of Praetorium. And that goes back to 1.0 where he has started to have second thoughts about the Garlean war machine and even rescues the Scions and WoL

[potent marsh]

ganesha lore has to do with why there are craters on the moon, irl lore i believe he ended up throwing up and slipping

[vivid notch]

I mean if it's going to be Ganesha it'll be a primal so it'll be same shit different day

[timid solstice]

Isn’t Nael deado

[vivid notch]

yes

[tropic frigate]

ramuh was kinda nice in a way for one

[timid solstice]

Ditched by bahamut

[vivid notch]

at most something like Lakshmi from Stormblood but just a primal

[winged hill]

Thrall for bahamut

[woven escarp]

🤔 my first thought was that minfilia is a fragment like ardbert

[vivid notch]

o true, he could be like Susanoo and Ramuh and fight the WoL & Full Party to test them or something like that

[slate atlas]

does anyone know what the song playing in the old sharlayan moment in the trailer

[tropic frigate]

yea

[winged hill]

Seems to me mare lamentorum is asican HQ

[swift kraken]

idk subjugating countless cities and killing tons of people for any cause seems pretty evil to me. regardless of his reasons at the time, even he says he was literally wrong later

[slate atlas]

is it new? or a throw back

[vivid notch]

I hope they do that tbh, I like Lord Ganesha

[rich phoenix]

You're not up to date on your lore, dude.

No, I misread

[vivid notch]

also Minfilia is definitely not Hythloadeus

[swift kraken]

i didnt play 1.0, no, but i also dont really think gaius was that well-developed lol

[gaunt star]

when do new classes come out?

[vivid notch]

launch

[quick widget]

Anyone got a pic of the confirmed male viera?

[tropic frigate]

garleans were corrupt and killing tons but gaius motives has reasons behind them besides the obvious bad stuff

[gaunt star]

whens that

[gaunt star]

I really doubt he becomes a sympathetic character, more like a Vegeta.

[timid solstice]

11/25 or sth

[vivid notch]

November 23rd, 4 days earlier if you preorder

hopefully we get limited class Beastmaster before that but who knows

[potent marsh]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/endwalker/ how about a website

[swift kraken]

well yeah but the question is if those reasons really matter if hes obviously doing really evil shit to realise his dreams

[potent marsh]

is the big yellow text hat says "male viera" not enough confirmation

[tropic frigate]

he followed a goal but didnt take the steps the correct way pretty much

[swift kraken]

imperialism isnt really a noble goal for any reason either

[timid solstice]

He got trolled by lababread and his big fat taco failed him

[rich phoenix]

First of all I'm not trying to defend Gaius. Second of all, I wouldn't decide a character "isn't well developed" if you haven't played or watched a bunch of the content.

[rich phoenix]

No one is arguing that.

Once again, I'm just saying Zenos and Gaius are apples and oranges.

[tropic frigate]

all garleans are bad but some are just worse than the other

[slate atlas]

I hope they make different tracks of the trailer and dont bundle it into one

[tropic frigate]

shadowbringers did so with certain parts

[potent marsh]

on the outset every knows this but imperials, who've essentially lived in an echochamber there entire life and really believe that what they are doing is for the benefit of all

[timid solstice]

When am I getting my EW theme mixed with space jam

[tropic frigate]

but one thing i cannot confirm is the each expansion song as it goes along

[deft burrow]

There is a hole right there

[vivid notch]

they are really trying to change that with the Populi guy that I forgot the name of but yeah pretty much

[potent marsh]

make your dreams a reality

[swift kraken]

idk considering the game doesnt care if you read 1.0 or not and gives you a summary of what happened back then 3 times over i dont think 1.0 is required reading and a player should be able to form their opinion on any character without taking it into account

[slate atlas]

like its a crime if we dont have a full version of that stormblood and sharlayan song

[rich phoenix]

That gets kind of racist given Cid, Lucia, and a couple other Garleans aren't evil Nazis

[swift kraken]

they also defected

[tropic frigate]

well you know what i meant

[rich phoenix]

JFC

[fallen girder]

[swift kraken]

whats exactly the problem with what i said now

[rich phoenix]

You're having a completely different argument, I give up.,

[fallen girder]

Yall having spicy takes again?

[rich phoenix]

You're just going to continue acting like I'm trying to defend or excuse Gaius, this is a waste of time lol

[swift kraken]

???

you told me i dont have all the info on a character or something

i played through the entire damn game whats left there

[rough kestrel]

I just imagine Ardbert being like "So Eli, why are we standing out here in the empty region when you have a sleek ass castle over there behind us"
Elidibus: We dont talk about that

[swift kraken]

i was saying gaius specifically wasnt well developed in 2.0 this entire time

[tropic frigate]

as a villain he was probably everything he needed to be at the time

[vivid notch]

because his development happened in 1.0 I think?

[tropic frigate]

and kinda just left there until it was brought back

[wet crown]

this is the worst collectors edition upgrade so far

[orchid tartan]

sooo what about island sanctuary

[rough kestrel]

Alot of ARR suffers from "You should kind of know who these people are, we don't expect you to but you should"

[vivid notch]

that's after 6.0 lmao

[wet crown]

the mount is just another horse

[vivid notch]

so gonna be a good while before we got to the farm

[potent marsh]

we dont know, now back to arguing about gaius cause ff players always gotta be the one that is right.

[tropic frigate]

yea but collectors mount being bad is a good thing to me

[rough kestrel]

I hope to fucking god Island Sanct has shit to do with your Retainers

[swift kraken]

i hope i can snag an edition

[vivid notch]

I just want harvest moon tbh

[swift kraken]

but its in 3 hours from now for me

[orchid tartan]

i just dont want to be done with it in some weeks and i can spend all my gill for it

[swift kraken]

minion farm

remember that lmao

[rough kestrel]

Why do people keep saying it's instanced housing

[slate ridge]

I imagine people were suspicious about the next class being a reaper because a grim reaper was on yoshi p’s shirt on February thinking yoshi p is going to trick them. Turns out they were right that the melee class is a reaper

[tropic frigate]

im sure they would say it is if it was instanced housing

[rough kestrel]

It's a farm thing, they're not giving people free housing

[swift kraken]

a farm can be a house tbf

[gloomy shale]

they gonna preview the relic weapons tomorrow?

[swift kraken]

at least i hope theres a glamour dresser in the farm with a tp crystal to it

[vivid notch]

that already makes it better than housing KEKW

[unreal wadi]

they wont have previews of that

they'll mention it, but no previews

[swift kraken]

maybe that wont crash the game this time

[vivid notch]

I'm betting it'll be an instanced timed thing like Eureka and Bozja tho

the spaghetti is strong here

[rough kestrel]

You know it does make me wonder, every player has their own barracks, why cant we modify the barracks? Is it the act of saving custom item placements that requires housing to be limited

[vivid notch]

spaghetti code

that's why

[swift kraken]

because no one uses the barracks

[vivid notch]

I use the barracks :(

[swift kraken]

once a year, me too

[vivid notch]

easiest and fastest access to glamour dresser

[swift kraken]

i only go there to get my venture coins and occasionally check in

[silk dragon]

what a stream

[potent marsh]

i forgot what the night sky looked like without whales

[silk dragon]

well atleast i know what class Ranjit is

[gloomy shale]

Will DNC get another Step you think?

[silk dragon]

or what the symbol the Reaper will have for its soul stone

[dim sigil]

Styche

[vivid notch]

I wonder if they get a new step how much potency it'll have

[vivid venture]

I dont think so ; dont ask Why tho 😂

[vivid notch]

1800? 2000?

[vivid notch]

good glam

[tropic frigate]

dancer is probably gonna get single target option for gauge spender just like most classes got for their gauges

[vivid notch]

I want to see the job gauge

[tropic frigate]

sometimes aoes and singles

just like flare and foul and hodouken and the one uppercut

[gloomy shale]

ST version of Flourish?

[tropic frigate]

nah saber dance

[gloomy shale]

err yeah I meant that woops

[silk dragon]

my guess is they will retcon rainjit to always been a reaper

[potent marsh]

ty all my glams have these stupid helmets

[somber storm]

What candy flavour will reaper have

[tropic frigate]

it could be the first type stuff

[naive fern]

yo, are there any big bombshells left to drop on day2 or was all the hype reveals planned for day1 only?

[silk dragon]

it felt like the Devs took inspration from Ranjit

[vivid notch]

I mean, Gukumatz was a void sent, right?

[potent marsh]

my favorite out of all of them

[vivid notch]

also I mean, it has the scythe and the henshin, it's 100% Ran'jit's class

[vivid notch]

good glam too

I kinda wish the henshin wasn't just the edgy cloak and was more in line with Ran'jit's henshin which is more armourlike but honestly just having a henshin class is enough for me

I grew up on 90s anime henshin means a lot to me lmao

[tropic frigate]

there is a lot of gear from old villains they could be giving us

[vivid notch]

having a henshin class is all I've wanted from this game ever since I saw Ran'jit do his

[silk dragon]

atleast we know Zenos is now a reaper than a samurai

[somber storm]

Now what will Reaper LB3 look like? Full henshin or stando power

[tropic frigate]

maybe reaper turns bigger and does one big scythe for a clean cut

[vivid notch]

also both Huracan and Gukumatz have similar appearances so I think we are very distinct from Ran'jit's class but I wonder who the teacher would be

it'd be very funny if it was him

it's going to be Vergil's Judgement Cut End but the ghost does it

[subtle pasture]

Gukumatz wasn't far off a carbuncle or fairy, compared to the Avatar being flat out a voidsent

[kind moss]

It just dawned on me that the shb theme didnt play in the trailer because endwalker is the story of the sources survival, so leaving out the first theme makes some sebse

[vivid notch]

can't wait for all trials in Endwalker to have 2 Sages and 4 Reapers lmao

[tidal mauve]

no sir it wasn't me who killed those people it was my imagin he gives me red hair and says ore sanjou

[vivid notch]

yeah

[subtle pasture]

They're certainly similar and the outfit change is killer, but I do think they just look similar

[bold condor]

It's in there. "One brings shadow, one brings light" is said while Y'shtola is speaking.

[tropic frigate]

yea its in there

[vivid notch]

https://tenor.com/view/momotaros-kamen-rider-den-o-gif-5429950

[young perch]

How are we getting to the moon? It’s like... super far away

[subtle pasture]

That Storm of Blood rift is insanely good

[tropic frigate]

it also happens at graha

[vivid notch]

I wish the outfit change was a bit more armour like instead of just spooky cloak but it's fine

[kind moss]

Ah
Well i guess it has a less prominent tone compared to FREEEEEDOOOOM and the heavens ward chorale

[tropic frigate]

well we see a big ship and i think some have made theories on how we might already

[vivid notch]

yeaaah, and the FREEEEEDOM is so good

[subtle pasture]

There's an object in the middle of the concept art, beneath the aetheryte, that looks like some sort of cannon pointed at the planet-- I would think it's an aetherbridge?

[vivid notch]

it'll be a crime against me if they don't release the Stormblood part as a full song

[subtle pasture]

I also think we teleprot to Thavnair from Sharlayan, one of Thav's aetherytes is in the Sharlayan style - which is super weird otherwise?

[languid wolf]

I just want to make an FC where we glam as Organization XIII

[vivid notch]

I mean doesn't the title card have like a Star Destroyer from Star Wars?

[silk dragon]

for sage teacher my guess is going to be a Male virea

[vivid notch]

it's going to be Daddy Leveilleur KEKW

[subtle pasture]

Judging from Shtola tearing the twins' dad a new one, I suspect Krile's gonna return in 5.5 p2 with her plea not being well received,

[silk dragon]

im just saying what if it was a male viera as the sage teacher

[vivid notch]

plot twist it's going to be a femHroth

[silk dragon]

dont even joke like that

[subtle pasture]

I know we're a ways out from femHroth but boy do I hope we get better art of one in Zadnor, like insert a concept art like some of the previous Ivalice art shots

[wary perch]

Alpha got fat legs

[vivid notch]

I hope that it's before 6.1

honestly I think it'd be cool if the team took a break before 6.1

[naive fern]

nah I kinda think she will stay there until we meet again in 6.0, she'll start a political faction within Sharleyan to gather any sort of support for us. Kinda like Locke Lamora had to lead in "Republic of Thieves"

[wary perch]

Fem hroth? Won't be 6.1 lol

[vivid notch]

okay I'll be honest, I expect a lot of things from this server. Did not expect the Locke Lamora reference lmao

[subtle pasture]

I'm setting easy expectations at around 6.3... I hope.

[opal rapids]

hrtothgal 6.1

[subtle pasture]

Given it's not like the 6.3 will be the usual, End of The Story Arc

[gaunt star]

I can see that, gives them a little over a year

[vivid notch]

yeah I really wonder where it'll go on 6.1

[subtle pasture]

Got Myths of the Realm to look forward to in 6.1

[vivid notch]

I hope for Meracydia or the New World or hell fuck it let's go crazy. First we go to the Moon, then we go to Dragon Star

[subtle pasture]

I wonder if the whole series will concern the Twelve or are just the first "Myth"

[naive fern]

I'll honestly be happy to see FemHroths before 6.5, and i hope they more muscle-y like the early Au'Ra concept art

[rain onyx]

They’re even beefier than male hrothgars

[subtle pasture]

guess that'd have to wait til 6.3.... with the 2nd 24man, but that shot of the disc over the Sanctum of the Twelve was good

[vivid notch]

I mean if it's the way it's been done then that gives like, 4 of the Twelve per Raid

[pine epoch]

look at how cool this magic circle is

[vivid notch]

so I think it'll be that

[subtle pasture]

that ghost is taking such a beating

[cold drift]

im still sorely upset i missed out on the physical ce >< i wish i was able to get 1 pre-ordered

[wary perch]

Fem hroth will most likely in 7.0

[vivid notch]

hell yeah, let them just be Hokuto no Ken characters but genderbent

[subtle pasture]

7.0 to me feels like the latest, for sure.

so we're just hoping for sooner orz

[gloomy shale]

You think they will ever top the edge of Reaper if they make another job in the future?

[boreal forge]

we have the lyrics of the edenwalker from any good soul that pull them out? english isn't my main language and i'm soooo tired that i only can pull out the knows that we already knew

[pine epoch]

no lyrics yet

[subtle pasture]

"Fem hroth by 7.0," rather than "likely to be 7.0," just being hopeful the team could manage it sooner.... orz

[gaunt star]

Will these Fanfast programs be rewatchable on YT later, or are they live only?

[subtle pasture]

but really big props to the team managing it, even if the male bun concept art goes back to HW

-not to diminish the cram work, moreso I understand the femhroth delay since it probably had to have its own new concept phase that buns prob had expedited...

or so I'd just be arbitrarily guessing

[cold drift]

anyone else not get lucky and couldnt get a physical ce pre-order

[vivid notch]

I don't even have that kind of money lmao

[hexed merlin]

Did they confirm how many expansions to come in future?

[cold drift]

i just hope they make more available

[vivid notch]

undefined

[boreal forge]

14

[subtle pasture]

just that they plan to go on as long as possible

[vivid notch]

YoshiP basically said "I'll work on this until I can't anymore"

[subtle pasture]

as long as the fans support it, at least

[potent marsh]

"man zenos is just gonna be a filler patch"

[vivid notch]

KEKW

[boreal forge]

mmmmm

[soft maple]

Wait so in the trailer, the meteors are blue and the spread ice. In the dungeon, it was fire. Does anyone have a theory as to why it's changed?

[meager panther]

I had fun with watching the Fanfest being played live. I've never felt a part of a festival before, or even went to one so that just gave me a taste of that overwhelming excitement of being a part of a crowd.

[pine epoch]

One of my favorite things about reaper as a job. Its "devil trigger" it changes your model to a Grim Reaper looking thing. cause of fusing with your voidsent buddy. Funny thing, the au ra horns and tail disappear on their test model

[boreal forge]

idk if anyone noticed this

[soft maple]

What

[vivid notch]

I wonder if Hroth can wear the cowl KEKW

[boreal forge]

http://puu.sh/HGMY3/765a43ab5b.jpg

[austere bear]

Oh

If it Zeal

[boreal forge]

at the top of garlemald you can see flotating islands

[subtle pasture]

shoutout to the guy who was wild about if the floating islands would ever be confirmed

[lone tendon]

What is 'Zeal'?

[vivid notch]

no idea tbh