Not exactly.
#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
wet crown
I'm sure he had the whole story structure in mind but he was waiting before he solidified certain elements. Like what bosses will be fought (not talking about the last ones), what music will be used, etc.
For example, I'm sure we got Knave, Hansel and Gretel because we were so hyped about the Dying Dragon bug. But...that's just guesswork.
I highly doubt he just made everything up step by step. But what can we realistically know what goes down in that head of his?
viscid monolith
@wet crown Ok so this isn't as bad as it seems. I'm being told it's actually the pods that sense machine lifeforms, which is kinda stupid on its own but it's canon to Automata so I can't complain about it here.
crystal arrow
just to play devil's advocate, but I bet that androids knew there was magic involved in the old war with humanity, so would these sorts of things really be that much of a reach?
wet crown
Humans didn't grows limbs and other body parts through magic
crystal arrow
I mean... [replicant spoilers] ||emil does, but he's not really human anymore||
viscid monolith
@crystal arrow Did you play the new Replicant?
crystal arrow
no, but I saw the "new" ending
viscid monolith
Ok my question is || why is there a character that looks and talks like 9S, and is named 9S?||
teal geyser
I played the original but haven't really seen much of the new version
crystal arrow
Ok my question is || why is there a character that looks and talks like 9S, and ...
||I'd just wager that 9S and 2B are based off of those two?||
wet crown
Something like that.
viscid monolith
|| Makes sense but his name was literally "9S" ||
crystal arrow
||especially since it's the same VAs||
teal geyser
|| Makes sense but his name was literally "9S" ||
Is that any weirder than say, the Facade peeps?
teal geyser
The mask people who are literally named after numbers
viscid monolith
And it was a|| boy who looked like 9S talking to a floating book||
teal geyser
Like, ||maybe 9S is an android there because androids were around back then but the issue is that...coulda sworn 9S and all those models were YorHa exclusive unless yeah the YorHa version was based off of an earlier version||
crystal arrow
And it was a|| boy who looked like 9S talking to a floating book||
||oh lmao that was the protagonist probably? you can name them whatever you want||
teal geyser
||oh lmao that was the protagonist probably? you can name them whatever you want...
That would be hilarious if this was what happened
Oh my God please let that be why Lance is confused
crystal arrow
Like, ||maybe 9S is an android there because androids were around back then but ...
replicant spoilers ||I mean, the "new" ending sorta suggests they were based off earlier versions||
teal geyser
replicant spoilers ||I mean, the "new" ending sorta suggests they were based off...
Neat!
crystal arrow
Neat!
||yeah it has... two young looking characters who look like 9S and 2B, suspiciously voiced by 9S and 2B's VAs||
crystal arrow
and there's a yorha skin you can ha- LOL
viscid monolith
Ya he was dressed exactly like 9S too. I think that's what I was looking at.
crystal arrow
like this?
viscid monolith
I remember the shorts being light blue
rough kestrel
Nier and 9S have nothing in common beyond both being young boys with white hair
viscid monolith
Let me find a screenshot
rough kestrel
2B/A2 on the otherhand
crystal arrow
Nier and 9S have nothing in common beyond both being young boys with white hair
I think lance's source of confusion was that the person they were watching playing had literally named the protagonist 9S and was using the automata costume
rough kestrel
Yeah the remake has Automata DLC, it's fucking weird
distant sonnet
Yeah. Theres a costume that also changes the VA.
rough kestrel
Thats the weirdest part
teal geyser
Yeah. Theres a costume that also changes the VA.
You aren't referring to dad Nier are you?
distant sonnet
No, I'm referring to the 9s costume linked above. =p
teal geyser
Yeah okay changing VA for the automata shit is weird wtf
rough kestrel
This entire discussion is a headache to read. Everyone drop what you're doing, go play both Niers
And see you in 2 months
crystal arrow
ur not my dad u can't make me 
distant sonnet
But while we're on the subject, Father Nier > Brother Nier.
teal geyser
This entire discussion is a headache to read. Everyone drop what you're doing, g...
I'm not buying a game I already played for full game price
rough kestrel
Remake is amazing by the way
teal geyser
But while we're on the subject, Father Nier > Brother Nier.
yes
distant sonnet
I'm not buying a game I already played for full game price
It plays very differently, though. Gameplay isn't jank ass.
teal geyser
The gameplay never bothered me in the first place
rough kestrel
Calisaie this is like saying "I refuse to buy RE2 because I played the PSX one"
teal geyser
It wasn't awful, just wasn't good either
distant sonnet
No, but it wasn't much to write home about either
teal geyser
Calisaie this is like saying "I refuse to buy RE2 because I played the PSX one"
Yes it is
rough kestrel
distant sonnet
New one is buttery smoof.
viscid monolith
My memory was foggy. He isn't dressed like 9S but I definitely looked at him and thought it was 9S.
teal geyser
That's just the main character lol
rough kestrel
Thats just Nier in his regular outfit.
distant sonnet
Oh, yeah nah. Thats just the new MC.
rough kestrel
He's the protag of NieR Replicant.
dusk drift
yo what's up with that human louisoix tho 👀
obsidian pagoda
Baby bro Nier
distant sonnet
Nier as an optimistic youngling sucks. Gimmie grumpy angry dad Nier.
viscid monolith
Oh, yeah nah. Thats just the new MC.
New?
rough kestrel
They originally made Nier Replicant, and then someone at SE was like "People in the west like big tough dudes like Kratos" so they also released Gestalt, which is the same game but you play as Yonah's Dad instead of her Brother.
Replicant didnt come out in the west originally
dusk drift
new for us
teal geyser
https://youtu.be/GL7rFmBFd2s daddy Nier
rough kestrel
For Replicant Remake they opted to go with the Brother because well, canonically thats who the protagonist is.
But people like the dad too.
distant sonnet
They're both canon.
teal geyser
I mean, people say canonically but there really isn't a difference
distant sonnet
Just.. by the way. =p Word of Taro and all that.
rough kestrel
Lip service
distant sonnet
They went with young Nier because thats the one that was on PS3 in japan and so sold better.
rough kestrel
I think Dad Nier is great but it doesn't take much to see which one was the original and which one was the result of publisher interference.
obsidian pagoda
Brother Nier is the preferred canon, cause Dad Nier would never pick Ending D and thus isn't the optimum choice narrative wise
distant sonnet
How.. why would he never pick ending D?
Whatever we're treading spoilers on a different game that people are actively playing, dont. =p
rough kestrel
I think Gestalt was a neat novelty idea
distant sonnet
I think Dad Nier is great but it doesn't take much to see which one was the orig...
... because a japanese publisher would interfere to make a character grizzled and old instead of a generic animeboy protag?
teal geyser
How.. why would he never pick ending D?
Yeah I dunno either
obsidian pagoda
||Because as a Dad, he wanted to stay alive to protect Yonah, whereas Brother Nier and Kaine are on the same 'level' and thus will choose to erase his existence. This was confirmed either by Yoko or one of the devs in an interview.||
rough kestrel
@distant sonnet Yes literally, there is a long history of this shit in game development in Japan "People in the west dont want your fucking soft boy protags" "People in Japan want young boys and not old men as protags"
distant sonnet
||Because as a Dad, he wanted to stay alive to protect Yonah, whereas Brother Ni...
||You really think, as a dad, he wouldn't give up anything to save his daughter?||
gaunt star
i guess the 3 weekly quests are just 3 quests that repeat twice
rough kestrel
Which unlock the 3 continuing story quests
obsidian pagoda
||You really think, as a dad, he wouldn't give up *anything* to save his daughte...
||He would, but the choice is to either save Kaine or not and he wouldn't have sacrificed himself for that as he lived for Yonah not Kaine.||
distant sonnet
Ehhh I dunno. Like everything Taro does, its a mess. Heh
rough kestrel
MGS2 and MGS4 are prime examples of Kojima provoking people in Japan and the West with these character archetypes
obsidian pagoda
Ehhh I dunno. Like everything Taro does, its a mess. Heh
I'd find the interview if I got time, but basically they debated internally and came to this Papa = C, Brother = D, choice
rough kestrel
Japanese people considered Snake an old Man, and the west fucking haaaated Raiden for the longest time
teal geyser
Japanese people considered Snake an old Man, and the west fucking *haaaated* Rai...
He is tho
rough kestrel
You're an old man
viscid monolith
Raiden was annoying. It wasn't because he was some soft boy
distant sonnet
Raiden is pretty hateable.
rough kestrel
It was all part of it
The game constantly reminded us that he looks feminine and "girly". It's deliberately rubbed into your face on top of the fact he was an annoying asshole
distant sonnet
Yyyyeah I dunno how well they nailed that then, because if that was the intent he was awfully masculine.
viscid monolith
Dude is jacked
rough kestrel
He's not literally meant to be a girl, but he was designed to be super bishy
distant sonnet
But he isn't especially bishy.
rough kestrel
And in 2001, people did think he was girly as fuck
rough kestrel
100%, the times have changed because modern society grew up as weebs
distant sonnet
Yyyyeah I'm gonna have to disagree hard. Never once thought he was feminine looking. Just annoying. So if that was their intent, they failed hard.
late willow
There is a joke in the game that people think he looks like a woman
rough kestrel
They literally have the President grab his crotch going "You're a Man!?"
distant sonnet
Then those people need their eyes checked, or their design team didn't commit.
viscid monolith
I'd say Adam and Eve in Automata looked feminine. Not Raiden though.
bold condor
tbf he was being mistaken for a somewhat large, muscular woman in that scene
rough kestrel
To you fucking weebs, he didn't look out of place, but in the era MGS2 came out in, that was 100% the intent and it worked on alot of people.
bold condor
Olga, specifically.
late willow
Raiden was slender and had long blonde hair
Thats basically the extent of him looking like a woman
But this was 2001, that was enough
viscid monolith
Anyone got a pic?
obsidian pagoda
distant sonnet
bold condor
distant sonnet
"Slender"? Uh.
teal geyser
Dat ass
Dem legs
bold condor
Keep in mind that he's also limited by graphical fidelity and his concept art is his intended look. Yes, he does look somewhat feminine.
distant sonnet
Char art.. more femine, yes.
viscid monolith
Hmmm ya he does look more feminine than I remember but not enough for me to mistake him as a woman.
bold condor
distant sonnet
But in game that never came through at all.
late willow
tbf, the players aren't meant to mistake him for a woman
stiff charm
wow kojima really ripped off omega-m huh 🙄
rough kestrel
He was designed deliberately to be the opposite of Snake, which people were expecting, because no trailer showed Raiden.
viscid monolith
Could just be my memory but Snake is also very slim. He just has facial hair and a deep voice.
obsidian pagoda
If you've ever played a japanese game, he's run off the mill bishy. If you're exclusively western gamers, he's definitely a pretty boy way back when. I still remember the many slurs thrown around when this came out.
rough kestrel
And then MGS3 they play it up with his look alike being sexually abused by Volgin because hes a "pretty boy"
rough kestrel
It's been awhile for me too but it was some sort of torture shit
late willow
How did we even get on this topic...
bold condor
olga pretty
obsidian pagoda
It was initially planned to be written in katakana as "ライデン", but was changed to the kanji form "雷電" because of a resemblance to Bin Laden's "Laden" in katakana, "ラーディン".
Errr what? 
That is a 2001 factoid if I ever see one
viscid monolith
How did we even get on this topic...
Talking about Nier and how Papa Nier was made because western audiences don't like slim pretty boys
distant sonnet
Raiden got brought up as an example of Westerners Hate Pretty Boys somehiw.
bold condor
It's been awhile for me too but it was some sort of torture shit
They were gay and into BDSM, it wasn't abuse.
late willow
Uhhhhhh
rough kestrel
From Nier, because I was explaining how in Game development, there's always been a weird issue where Japanese people didn't want gruff old man protags and Publishers thought the West didn't want bishy protags
Which is how we got Papa Nier in the west
viscid monolith
We're talking when Nier was originally released not now of course
late willow
I thought Papa Nier was made because Western audiences would relate more to a single father struggling to protect his daughter vs a brother protecting his sister
viscid monolith
So they're both named Nier?
distant sonnet
I think character design entered in too, but yeah.
teal geyser
So they're both named Nier?
Yes, same character
viscid monolith
One is the father and the other is the son or are they the same person
distant sonnet
They are both named Nier. Their daughter/sister is Yonah, who is a different age depending as well.
obsidian pagoda
We know Taroverse has multiple universes so yes they can both be Nier
late willow
They're the same person
rough kestrel
They are the same character, tailored to different audiences.
In universe probably some Alternate Universe shit
distant sonnet
Kaine is also a different age depending on the version, but her model and dialogue doesn't actually change
viscid monolith
Different universe or different time periods
rough kestrel
Universe
viscid monolith
I see I see
rough kestrel
It's a Pokemon Red/Green situation
obsidian pagoda
Kinda like the endings of the games are in different Branches, so are the games themselves
teal geyser
Kaine is also a different age depending on the version, but her model and dialog...
Yeah it's just stuff that literally doesn't matter and you'd never actually know
distant sonnet
Mmhm.
Its only because her birth year doesn't change and the game's year does. I think.
rough kestrel
Yeah in the original versions, the initial year and timeskip seem to be slightly different
But it doesn't seem to mean anything
late willow
Its easier to just pretend Papa Nier never existed
rough kestrel
He's great though
distant sonnet
But Papa Nier is the better character.
teal geyser
^ fuck you Meara
rough kestrel
There are definitely side quests that contextually make more sense as Brother Nier, but the opposite is true for some other side quests
teal geyser
His design is terrible
Implying Rep is any better
late willow
It is
distant sonnet
I mean hes kinda fugly, but both of then dress like blind idiots.
late willow
He doesn't wear a diaper on his head
rough kestrel
His design is very last minute and this is particularly apparent with ||Shadowlord||
obsidian pagoda
I found that Ending C/D choice thing, apparently out of Grimoire Nier
Meanwhile, novelist Jun Eishima expressed her opinion that Ending C would have been Father Nier's choice, while Ending D would be Brother Nier's choice, stating: "A father is responsible to his own daughter, so he couldn’t just give up his existence. He feels that it’s his duty to protect Yonah and raise her, so he’d kill Kainé and live on. On the other hand, a brother and sister both coexist with and depend on each other, so maybe he’d choose to disappear and be relieved from his burden."
teal geyser
He doesn't wear a diaper on his head
h-he kinda do wear pants on his head
obsidian pagoda
He wears a G-string on his head
distant sonnet
Grimoire Nier is fuckin' wild.
rough kestrel
Grimoire Liam is best book
I find myself muttering Matthew Mercer on every 3rd NPC I encounter though, but I like that everything is voiced by Crit Role people + others.
distant sonnet
I mostly just miss Jaimeson Price.
rough kestrel
"Thats his old man voice in the campaign" "Thats his generic guard voice in the campaign"
A few Sam Riegals are sprinkled throughout too
(Liam O'brien's IRL Husband)
distant sonnet
Some of the short stories Grimoire Nier are absolutely bonkers. Its great.
If not precisely well translated online
obsidian pagoda
Isn't that new side story girl in 1.22 taken from one of the short stories? 
distant sonnet
Yeah, The Little Mermaid I think.
rough kestrel
Ariel
severe brook
can't wait for a weekly quest to substitute Louise/Little Mermaid for Knave of Hearts
open verge
What’s the nier quest this week
somber storm
Merchant
silk cape
Who did the nier quest! I’m behind a week
JUST GO PLAY IT NERD
silk cape
so buy another month?
If you're that invested in the story it's worth another $15
open verge
Stop making sense!
clever flume
do you want me to dm you the notes
open verge
Yes pls
clever flume
like all of them or just this week's
open verge
This week is all I need
clever flume
kk
open verge
This seems pretty important to nier right?
clever flume
the eggs never showed up in automata itself right?
open verge
Kinda sucks that I still can’t grasp this entirely I’m only at the very beginning of replicant
wet crown
Which means, that it isn't Ending D that goes into our raid series. But rather Ending E.
crystal arrow
the eggs never showed up in automata itself right?
no they didn't - but it seems like this seed could've been what was shot out of the tower in automata
wet crown
the eggs never showed up in automata itself right?
It didn't. But then again, there's more than just 1 seed. And their existance doesn't have to be erased ever since the Queen Beast came to Tokyo
open verge
The chances this is setting up the next installment of nier is how much
clever flume
ye i know there were multiple seeds
wet crown
Everything Yoko Taro works in is canon...sooo.
crystal arrow
The chances this is setting up the next installment of nier is how much
pretty decent I think - could be another drakengard game too?
clever flume
was curious tho if one had been shown in automata cos this week's comment is like how did they tho
open verge
Goddamit yoko
wet crown
This doesn't have to be canon for the next NieR title. But it's absolutely canon lore.
stiff charm
This week's letter.
TIMELOOP 
wet crown
No, actually.
||What this means is that 9S and 2B somehow found out and intercepted the seed before it even came to Norvrandt.||
stiff charm
especially considering (replicant ver 1.22 spoiler) ||the new ending e in replicant||, i am thinking ||the ark went back in time somehow and implanted itself into the tree and that is how the "admins" in the kaine scenario look like 2b/9s||
wet crown
That's not new.
dusk drift
This week's letter.
|| 🤔 how do they know what a "virus" is, let alone a technological one?||
wet crown
Hate to burst your bubble but ||this "new" Ending may not have been in Replicant before, but it's already been in the novel. The game just added extras.||
wet crown
|| 🤔 how do they know what a "virus" is, let alone a technological one?||
The pod said so?
crystal arrow
especially considering (replicant ver 1.22 spoiler) ||the new ending e in replic...
We talked about this earlier - ||I think it's more reasonable to assume that's an older version of the ark, as those administrators look very... analog, and are directly connected to it. Given how it was recording everything about replicant, it'd explain why we fight digitized versions of hansel + gretel and knave in paradigm's breach||
stiff charm
yeah, nevermind, its early and i tend to jump to crack theories too quickly lol
dusk drift
right but it's said in a way that assumes people know what that term actually means
which is odd because from a general technological viewpoint, normal people on the First and Source shouldn't know what a ||virus|| is without further explanation
dusk drift
because viruses weren't discovered until the early 1900s
clever flume
think given the time frame, disease would be more appropriate wording
dusk drift
no one on hydaelyn would even know what a virus is, let alone how it relates to technology
wet crown
Are you holding a fantasy world to real life science discoveries?
clever flume
that said, he is exploring with a pod, maybe it explained things to him?
crystal arrow
Part of me also wonders ||whether we'll end up encountering Accord, and if she's related to this particular seed||
dusk drift
we already know that they don't know about stuff like bacteria yet, so... yes?
late aurora
There was a spell called virus in 14, wasn't there?
clever flume
ye
wet crown
If ||Accord's model || hasn't been mined, yet. Then I assume we won't see her soon. Or at least until a new batch of quests.
wet crown
There was a spell called virus in 14, wasn't there?
Virus and one other spell have been merged into Addle.
clever flume
no, virus was just renamed
wet crown
didn't virus only reduce INT? I'm sure we also had a MND debuff
clever flume
no virus (with talent) reduced both
dusk drift
also "virus" comes from an old word for poison, so just having a spell named after it wouldn't necessarily mean they know what a "virus" is in the context of disease
wet crown
clever flume
why whm version of it was always shit version. and you'd only really want the smn/sch to do it
dusk drift
it's not a huge deal it's just
crystal arrow
If ||Accord's model || hasn't been mined, yet. Then I assume we won't see her so...
Yeah, I can just Hope
dusk drift
it's a moment where you can tell they wrote it under the assumption the player would understand without considering whether or not it would make sense in-story
clever flume
actually i'm misremembering. Virus was split into addle/feint effectively. Because Virus reduced str/dex initially and the trait added int/min
wet crown
Huh.
clever flume
it's a moment where you can tell they wrote it under the assumption the player w...
its easy enough to hand wave though, since he did take a pod with him. the pod iirc is capable of communication
wet crown
Jet, honestly. Why do you insist on holding the lore to actual science discoveries when they have the Ancients with their super knowledge and Allag. Surely they know what a virus is.
And they can make the connection to a metaphor.
dusk drift
Allag would probably know what a virus is, yes
but Allag knew a lot of stuff that has since been lost
crystal arrow
why do people apply real world science and timelines of discoveries to fantasy anyways 
ffs we have super advanced technology in this game
wet crown
If there is a spell called Virus, then they know what viruses do.
crystal arrow
Allag would probably know what a virus is, yes
but Allag knew a lot of stuff tha...
stares in sharlayan
wet crown
Does not refute my point.
stiff charm
eorzea pandemic mini arc that twins dad cures in endwalker confirmed
dusk drift
it does though
just having a spell called "virus" doesn't specifically mean they know about little packets of rna that infect peoples' cells to replicate
late aurora
do they need to?
wet crown
You're being silly about this. 
late aurora
Virus bad, computer virus is also bad
crystal arrow
ahh, pedantry
dusk drift
i mean i already said several times that it's not even a big deal
teal geyser
eorzea pandemic mini arc that twins dad cures in endwalker confirmed
A pandemic to cull the cat thots plz
dusk drift
and you're the one coming up with all these reasons they could know what a virus is even though they haven't even figured out bacteria yet
stiff charm
A pandemic to cull the cat thots plz
i am not going to let my boy die that way
dusk drift
instead of just "hey maybe the writers accidentally used a modern term that the people of hydaelyn probably wouldn't understand"
teal geyser
i am not going to let my boy die that way
We are going to cause it by bringing alien shit with us from The First
dusk drift
teal geyser
But yeah the tree in the fringes is just compared to the guardian tree in Central Shroud and that it was said to house a powerful elemental before the tree uh....drank too much Black Rose
signal solar
poisoned tree
teal geyser
Oh shit wrong channel
dim sigil
Well we finally have an explanation for why 2B and 9s are good guys in this game now at least that's nice
open verge
Y’all hear about the data mine of the nier logs howyall feel about them
wet crown
I feel like not reading them ahead of time
torpid yoke
why would i spoil myself?
wet crown
Bit ironic considering the channel we're in. Huh...
primal basalt
hey it's 5.5 spoilers not 5.56 spoilers
torpid yoke
Bit ironic considering the channel we're in. Huh...
yea but not all the logs are out 
open verge
That makes sense
drowsy belfry
Y’all hear about the data mine of the nier logs howyall feel about them
Oh can you like hmu because I'm bored of waiting tbh
Dm me if need be ya kno
oak pike
data mine 
carmine basin
If they're talking about the weekly quest, it's on garland. The weekly messages from konogg has to be datamined tho since it's not on garland
maiden lodge
If there is a spell called *Virus*, then they know what viruses do.
Or they know what a slimy, virulent poison is.
virus did not always refer to a dna-infection germ, it once just meant poison or slime
maiden lodge
Aurum Vale is really just virustown
All of it just chillin trying to live their lives and we kick down the door going 'TIME FOR SOME HORTICULTURE' and that just makes them go 'rude'
random ravine
Y’all hear about the data mine of the nier logs howyall feel about them
what nier logs
torpid yoke
what nier logs
Weekly quests
indigo shale
Aurum Vale is really just virustown
the start of aurum vale is the most fun part of it as it either goes smoothly or you go through 4 tanks, great fun
random ravine
the start of aurum vale is the most fun part of it as it either goes smoothly or...
it's pretty smooth if you make a beeline for the first boss by hugging the left side
maiden lodge
It's smother if you rp walk along the side and fight nothing.
gaunt star
So neat detail, after finishing Tower at Paradigm's Breach, the list of currently active YoRHa androids updates to state all of them are offline:
This is what it was after Puppet's Bunker:
zealous pond
are we sure that krile is gonna be back soon from sharlayan or not really?
teal geyser
are we sure that krile is gonna be back soon from sharlayan or not really?
Idk, we are going there in 6.0 so we'll be seeing her soon regardless
indigo shale
itll be funny if fandaniel blows it up in 5.56 just to spite everyone that wants to go there
slate badger
probably some "oh no something happened in sharlyan, we should go look for krile"
to kickstart 6.0
indigo shale
do you think we'll find out in fanfest if we are definitely going to sharlayan, could be a bait for all we know atm
or we'll find out that sharlayan was founded by ascians because we cant have anything in this game that isnt an ascian plot
crystal arrow
This is what it was after Puppet's Bunker:
Yeah, I noticed that too later - those are the two Operator-types we fight in paradigm's breach
iirc the one with the hood becomes jack, the one with the hat becomes hansel and gretel
wet crown
Anyone figure out any easter egg behind their designations?
crystal arrow
I'm still wondering as to what the "P" designation means - maybe protector or "purified" or something?
wet crown
puppet
crystal arrow
ah
it's weird that the operators were denoted as -P then, while 2P wasn't - though she could've just been lying
wet crown
YoRHa No. 2 Type - P(uppet)
teal geyser
do you think we'll find out in fanfest if we are definitely going to sharlayan, ...
Yes
lapis topaz
Anyone have a chat link the data mining from 5.5? Trying to get one of the images
wet crown
I always assumed the operator designation is simply a relic of past models. Like A2. But the operators are still in full use.
crystal arrow
Also, wondering why there were so many named/numbered operator types in the raids
lapis topaz
Wanted to ask have we seen what this is for yet?
crystal arrow
maybe
lapis topaz
It's the only icon found that I can't think what it could be,
Someone said 'possible new teleport icon' but idk
crystal arrow
probably a lost action tbh
lapis topaz
1 sec,
wet crown
Here lie the hopes and dreams of a Scholor.
lapis topaz
torpid yoke
Looks like butterflies
wet crown
The bear is definitely a mount or transformation action
Really just the butterfly that's gotta be a Lost Action or a slipped EW icon.
lapis topaz
It's probably the polar bears action
If it's a lost action, wouldn't there be more? Weird to just have 1 lost action in the coding
wet crown
They might have just forgotten to remove it. Not the first time they put in something early.
torpid yoke
Coulda said it was an extra blue mage action and I would be fooled
wet crown
Might also be
proper frigate
Maybe the real extra Blue Mage action is the friends we made along the way
wet crown
or it's just a placeholder
carmine basin
Might be instance-related actions like the nier ones, from Bozja
pine epoch
The bear is definitely a mount or transformation action
something about Ice Crystal thing
||The polar bear mount from summer event.||
The Purple icon could be a fashion item
pulsar yacht
Im more into the pizza emote 
crystal arrow
tbh, maybe it could be sch related
pulsar yacht
Maybe pizza the food will actually have a model and not just another bread roll placeholder
crystal arrow
kinda looks like the art of war icon
wet crown
Oh...the pizza icon might be part of that as well then
crystal arrow
idk, just the first thing my mind went to
wet crown
the one thing SCHs have perfected - The Art of Depression
crystal arrow
lapis topaz
My friend said something about it being a teleport icon, which would be awesome 
But I doubt we will get anything special like that till after/during 6.0
clever flume
looks like a butterfly to me
lapis topaz
It IS a butterfly,
But the question is, what is the icon for
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/742643125981413447/836696535239753799/unknown.png
If it isn't used in the game yet I'll wait till 5.55
wet crown
crackpot theory : this is the new AOE that replaces Art of War
gaunt star
Could be a duty action for Lunar Ravana since it looks like a little butterfly and Ravana loves his butterflies
pine epoch
Dont worry about it. You'll see it when its time
gaunt star
Plot twist YOU are actually lunar ravana
pine epoch
It's on the side with duty actions so obviously not a emote
open verge
!action art of war
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open verge
Man imagine if this is just a cooler art of war lol
crystal arrow
it could be art of war II 
open verge
Scholar needs it to look cool
I also doubt it’s art of war 2 but it’s funny to imagine yknow
crystal arrow
honestly i don't understand why sch effects don't go more into the butterfly thing anyways
wet crown
because most of it is Nymian military magic
SCH isn't even the right name for the job. Should be (War) Tactician
open verge
because most of it is Nymian military magic
What a lame ass thing to base a job around
crystal arrow
because most of it is Nymian military magic
then they need more tacticool effects
dim sigil
COME HELLS OR HIGH WATER
keen kayak
Hi, I just start the game for the first time today and i have a little question: Did i must do all secondary quest? Or only the history please? 🙂
pulsar yacht
a lot of the side quests are just around as filler lore for areas. there's not anything that's must know from a side quest (not associated with unlockable content)
keen kayak
Ok ok thx a lot !
maiden lodge
There are butterflies in the same scene with the glowing figure outside Keeper of the Lake in the trailer.
crystal arrow
hmm, they don't really look the same tho
maiden lodge
The other possibility is a duty action against Lunar Ravana
subtle pasture
those're crystals in the distance,
I'll tell you what, that pair in the middle solidly look like butterfly wings tho
but they don't move in the shot, beyond the slight panning to reveal the figure
torpid yoke
We are gonna become Lunar odin
subtle pasture
And now that we can filter out a bit more from Part 1 and Part 2, I would imagine the Carteneau instance goes: G'raha and Alisaie v Ravana, Urianger and Thancred v Odin, Estinien and us v Ifrit.
final battle atop the Heliodrome as well, 
torpid yoke
Urianger thancred and yshtola vs odin
I'm gonna assume alphanaud is with graha and alisaie
Wol doesn't need a healer with them. We carried by brilliant conviction
pine epoch
we see Hydaelyn use her power to summon a Primal Venat
callin it now.
Chops a piece of herself off and reforms it into Venat
torpid yoke
So she pulls an elidibus
maiden lodge
Those are just Crystals dude
That's what the gummint wants us to think
gaunt star
Those are literally the crystals from mor dhona that have been there since forever
maiden lodge
They are trying to trick y'all
They're trying to cover up what's happening at Area 51
heady shadow
silvertear is area 51 with big ass dragon dude
torpid yoke
Exactly
pine epoch
Lunar Primals are actually all made by hydaelyn and shes actually evil and Fandaniel is actually her in man
torpid yoke
Lunar Primals are actually all made by hydaelyn and shes actually evil and Fanda...
No that happens at the end of EW and danfaniel is in both z and h
heady shadow
Venta's group caused the finla days mwhahahahaah
maiden lodge
The real Fandaniel were the dicks we beat along the way
heady shadow
i still have it in my head that he's way more involved with something else then just burn the world.
it seems to be a façade to me
torpid yoke
The real Fandaniel were the dicks we beat along the way
Dis out of context
torpid yoke
I saw that cal
maiden lodge
i still have it in my head that he's way more involved with something else then ...
Well yes, he also wants to flood it, demolish it, blow it up, and then do the riverdance on the largest chunk.
teal geyser
I saw that cal
the gif tab didn't show any bottom text 
heady shadow
Well yes, he also wants to flood it, demolish it, blow it up, and then do the ri...
And he's probably gonna get what he wants in the end anyway.
so....
stiff charm
please square let us brutally kill him the way we did emet but while he is in his humanoid form. give us a stormblood blood cough effect. please
heady shadow
my point being is he wants to die. Him dying is him winning in a weird way.
so, we must seal his ass on another planet
stiff charm
kill zodiark, seal him inside zodiarks corpse, in the moon
better if zodis heart contains the memories of the lost ancients so he can suffer watching his friends die over and over
heady shadow
thats if Fandan had freinds.
for all we know he's part of the original problem
pulsar yacht
I knew it reminded me of an attack
not as much an attack as the butterfly adds in ravana
maiden lodge
The moon kana and spirit kana
forest magnet
There are butterflies in the same scene with the glowing figure outside Keeper o...
are u sure those are butterflies and not crystals from far away
maiden lodge
are u sure those are butterflies and not crystals from far away
its swamp gas reflecting the light from Menphina
torpid yoke
not as much an attack as the butterfly adds in ravana
There's that butterfly attack from kugane trial as well
pulsar yacht
yeah although i dont think 5.56 msq will have much to do with othard zones
torpid yoke
yeah although i dont think 5.56 msq will have much to do with othard zones
5.55 and there is a tower in othard so I wouldn't be surprised if they had stuff there
dim sigil
I imagine fandan end game he wanted it to happen in 5.56 but somthing happens that sets it back to 6.0
torpid yoke
Fandans plan probably involves having the Lunar primals being destroyed over and over again
And we'll see that he wants that in 5.55
maiden lodge
The plan is to lure us into going to Garlemald.
Any plan that doesn't involve an endgame of 'And then Zenos and WoL have a sick rad battle' won't get Zenos' support.
viscid monolith
Zenos was pretty upset about Lunar Bahamut being destroyed so I don't think that's supposed to happen.
rough kestrel
I wonder if that anger is more
"Well you made me change my plans by coming into my life and you can't even fucking do a good job?"
My interpretation was that Zenos is annoyed that all this waiting around is being met with Fannydan being incompetent.
torpid yoke
Zenos was pretty upset about Lunar Bahamut being destroyed so I don't think that...
Yea but that's bahamut. Those worshipers are harder to find
rough kestrel
OKAY
In before Lunar Ifrit and Lunar Ravana being destroyed leads to a stinger where Zenos goes "You know what, get fucked, I'm done with you" and kills FD
torpid yoke
Nah
mighty light
If that happens it'll be because FD wants it to
rough kestrel
FD isn't Aizen
heady shadow
that we know of
mighty light
I'm not saying that as a "FD is a master puppeteer" thing, I'm saying that as a "Fandaniel has a baseline level of competency" thing.
torpid yoke
Plus EW has fandan still seemingly working with zenos
teal geyser
In before Lunar Ifrit and Lunar Ravana being destroyed leads to a stinger where ...
And then FD chuckles and the army of Solus clones become story important
rough kestrel
Oh no
heady shadow
Though I dont know if Ishikawa could write a Aizen type character?
rough kestrel
heady shadow
i dunno im probably being stupid xD
mighty light
Just fill 'em with Voidsent
teal geyser
Seriously those clones HAVE to be getting used
rough kestrel
But what power would they have
teal geyser
Felt like a big Chekhov's gun
rough kestrel
They're clones
teal geyser
But what power would they have
Idk, what Void said sounded good
wind bough
Dungeon mobs, please look forward to it
maiden lodge
Well I think the plan was more 'use Lunar Bahamut to motivate the WoL to coming to my bedroom fighttown' but then we killed Loonie B so you know.
teal geyser
Stone I mean
rough kestrel
I mean Zenos knows we're on the way.
mighty light
Void Lich a little too edgy, even for me
dim sigil
The solus clones will be a beast tribe
torpid yoke
Seriously those clones HAVE to be getting used
The new job is puppet master and the clones are v his puppets
mighty light
Although Stone Void has a neat ring to it
teal geyser
Void Lich a little too edgy, even for me
I'm tired :(
turbid aspen
Wheres the pic of the lala emet again
heady shadow
the clones are just emet's alternate accounts and Fandan prob shacked them
mighty light
I'm tired :(
Mood
rough kestrel
Emetrulez420, Emetselch6969, Hydaelynsux12000
maiden lodge
Emetrulez420, Emetselch6969, Hydaelynsux12000
VesselOfFlesh7AE1
PlzNoticeMeAzemkun
rough kestrel
SORCEREROFELD14
teal geyser
I want to make a nationalist Garlean password or just a really dark racist one but I can't
rough kestrel
GargleforGarlemald
oak pike
I heard racist
teal geyser
God I want to do this one so bad but I'll get clapped so hard joke or no
maiden lodge
I want to make a nationalist Garlean password or just a really dark racist one b...
ZosChadVirginAan
rough kestrel
https://64.media.tumblr.com/4c1120ecfa3be85a59b729297fa8842b/13ada44732bd160a-fd/s540x810/4f3f7a14ec353cc1188b25bef5268dccc9183047.gif
@teal geyser What's the worst that could happen?
maiden lodge
Also yet another reference to SPQR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aulus_Cornelius_Cossus_Arvina
carmine basin
Wheres the pic of the lala emet again
This? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/226353385706618880/746701519457484800/EKNtr4yWsAE5MsJ.png
Bonus viera emet https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/226353385706618880/745968701626515497/EKNtr4yXYAEpOeK.png
dim sigil
Very cursed
turbid aspen
HAHAHA YES
next oriole
wet crown
Wow.
brazen stag
I don't get it, it's just a still of Limsa with the theme playing.
tidal mauve
if only garo got the same treatment
rain onyx
Garo didn't have sexy big boob/butt outfits, unfortunately.
tidal mauve
garo has multiple main villains that have their boobs out full frontal
kind lark
uhh this channel is still a thing?
teal geyser
For some reason
wet crown
mods and mentors said because 5.55 is so soon and fanfest coming as well
tulip geyser
Makes sense
stiff charm
patch-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-spoilers
heady shadow
probably something like 5.55Spoiler/Fanfest discussion
bold condor
5.55 is soon? 😮
signal solar
may ™️
wary perch
bold condor
ouo
OuO
So basically this channel is just better #archived-lore-spoilers until sometime in June.
distant sonnet
Lore spoilers unchained.
bold condor
15 seconds is 5 seconds too many and they know it!
distant sonnet
Lore Shitposts
bold condor
distant sonnet
bold condor
Here we shall post big slappy boys!
wet crown
Wish the devs would've been at least a bit sloppy and leave Zadnor stuff in the base patch
I want to see the weapons
Though I guess the armor above all
oak pike
man i wish we get a outfit that looks similar to zenos second outfit with suit and hanging jacket
placid sail
we will hopefully get more garlean gear in 6.0
heady shadow
opaque hemlock
Considering we may have a dungeon in Garlemald I wager the set we get there will be very much inspired
tidal mauve
bold condor
We're absolutely getting a dungeon in Garlemald.
wet crown
At least one. Before Lv. 90 that is.
dusk drift
the more pressing question is whether we'll get anything other than that one dungeon
teal geyser
If we don't fight Zenos in Garlemald I'll be very disappointed. I can't imagine we'd be "dancing round the pyre" on the moon you know?
Would prefer to fight in the destruction to really feel the weight of the fight
wet crown
First Lv. 90 trial in Garlemad. Second Lv. 90 trial and final boss on the moon
viscid monolith
The pyre is the planet and the moon is always dancing around it
dusk drift
we can't dance around the pyre on the moon because there's no oxygen
teal geyser
The pyre is the planet and the moon is always dancing around it
No that's fucking stupid
bold condor
level 89 trial but also
dusk drift
lance stole the joke i was gonna make so i had to come up with a different one
bold condor
keep in mind Zenos did say he was gonna gorge himself upon the - oh wait
viscid monolith
He said around the pyre not in the pyre or on it
wet crown
I don't see Zenos being the 2nd trial, ngl
bold condor
Cal didn't watch the trailer nvm
teal geyser
keep in mind Zenos did say he was gonna gorge himself upon the - oh wait
On my dick
dusk drift
Ring Around the Pyre
teal geyser
I'm outtie anyway dw continue
silk cape
On my dick
FLESH PILLAR
dusk drift
bold condor
he said he's gonna drink of a sea of souls and gorge himself upon the darkened moon
wet crown
a sea of souls
bold condor
wet crown
Which literally means, he will take over Hydaelyn and Zodiark
silk cape
More like dorkened moon
Because a dork is a whale penis
wet crown
misty yoke
What is that?
dusk drift
hey romm
please do not
bold condor
you are all at my mercy. i will post longface if my demands are not met.
dusk drift
pls
bold condor
first, i declare today International Zenos Day.
misty yoke
What demands?
bold condor
all rise for the Big Slappy Anthem
silk cape
Ruh roh, rommy's gone Rampant
bold condor
number one victory royale
rhalgr's reach we bouta get down
ten kills on the floor right now
fordola killing meffrid now
y'shtola goes down
lyse attacks me, and pipin inbound
concentrativity takes them out see
warrior of light make me horny
take me to shinryu to fight the wol today
you can take the storm and swell but not ame
i really love to
fight fight with you
we can tower above the gods
That's it, that's the anthem.
misty yoke
A song based on parody based on a song this is too deep
bold condor
garlean boy
kind lark
Kanye would be proud
dusk drift
Estelle deserves better than this 😔
bold condor
delete kanye
severe brook
Soul Chuggin' Jug
kind lark
delete kanye
Ok, will do soon
bold condor
the rogue kanye must be destroyed to restore the harmony of kanye north, kanye south, and kanye east
bold condor
the traitor seeks to harness the pour of the four kanyes
misty yoke
You’re only gonna make things worse
bold condor
good
misty yoke
Uh oh
bold condor
I will absorb the power of the four Kanyes
misty yoke
Then what are you gonna make Garlean Boy a smash hit?
bold condor
yes
misty yoke
I cant argue with that
severe brook
She will gorge herself on countless Kanyes.
kind lark
Is Kanye on the moon?
silk cape
She take me tomeys when I'm in need
Yeah, she's a frightnin' friend indeed
Oh, she's a gil digger
Rowena's town, that digs on me
topaz river
number one victory royale
rhalgr's reach we bouta get down
ten kills on the floo...
An instant classic
I’d pin it if this channel wasn’t temporary
bold condor
honestly my favored one is the one I did for Vauthry
purely because I managed to use Radisca's Round in a verse and make it make sense
topaz river
misty yoke
I wonder how Garleans in paris will sound like
bold condor
number one victory royale
yeah eulmore we bouta get down
sin eaters in a swarm right now
they just wiped out radisca's round
that man just got downed
ardbert can't help so we're heading westbound
look at lyna, now she's crying
taunt the sinners while i'm flying
take me to mt. gulg to eat some meol today
you can pet forgiven obscenity but not that way
i really want to
eat meol with you
we can be pro lightwardens
heady shadow
misty yoke
teal geyser
the rogue kanye must be destroyed to restore the harmony of kanye north, kanye s...
Everything changed when the Kanye nation attacked
distant sonnet
There can be only one.
serene crest
bold condor
Kanye-Senna
drowsy belfry
ye
teal geyser
dim sigil
Glue
chrome sundial
Watching you and uour friends try to figure out a system update is funnnnyy
kind lark
next quarry
Did someone hack that in or something
spiral wagon
apparently people are already digging
gaunt star
This was datamined a while back it’s the pre order bonus
next quarry
Ik it was on garland tools
spiral wagon
ah ok
bold condor
hah. moon.
spiral wagon
is all items like this regarding pre order items earrings?
pine epoch
There is a 3rd party tool that let's people Link items that are unreleased
Its how people linked things like blue mage soul stone before it released
dim sigil
I imagine that's probably not a good idea to go flaunting around in game
opaque hemlock
Yeah I've seen people linking the Cruise Chaser mount consumable ingame as if they are just begging to get in trouble
modern bluff
I imagine that's probably not a good idea to go flaunting around in game
Iirc you can get perma'd for linking unreleased stuff using third party tools
opaque hemlock
It makes sense as just because a file exists ingame does not mean SE are ready to release it soon. Things can change at a moment's notice
dim sigil
Rip old Cerberus
opaque hemlock
Right? That's a good example
The data clearly displayed it as a 4-seater until it actually got implemented... as a single ride mount
That the player awkwardly stands on.
dim sigil
I believe it's still a four seater but the players aren't carried in the mouth anymore
Just ride on top
pine epoch
It is a 4 seater
opaque hemlock
Wait what? I have never seen more than 1 player on one before. I'm shocked haha
opaque hemlock
Well I get that, all multi-seat mounts are like that. I just haven't actually seen more than one player on one before.
pine epoch
Ah
opaque hemlock
So much so that I was under the impression it was a solo mount
Glad I was wrong there.
pine epoch
CC according to files is a 2 seater. Tho the actual size of it is fuckin massive
Theres room for 4 but its 2
dim sigil
Room for 8
opaque hemlock
Still crossing my fingers it is added for FanFest
clever flume
ffxiv collect says is 4 seater
oh, not cerberus. cruise chaser
i can't read im stupid 
pine epoch
The fanfest mount is the whale. CC is something we dont know from what. But we know it isn't pvp
clever flume
tbh this isn't really the first time they've done that. the normal whale mount could probably seat 4 to, but its a 2 seater
stiff charm
The fanfest mount is the whale. CC is something we dont know from what. But we k...
could be the fanfest map event
opaque hemlock
People speculate it'd be tied to the limited mogtome event, or maps yeah
wet crown
we have the datamined list for the next moogle event
opaque hemlock
We all know about the Lunar Whale though yeah
clever flume
its not the moogle tome event
pine epoch
Best worst case. You need to win a community event to get it. Which means every like 3 months 100 people can win it
drowsy belfry
It's gonna be from Zadnor
pine epoch
Also it's not moogle tome as kael said
opaque hemlock
Oh we have the mogtome list?
pine epoch
Best case it's a reward in zadnor
drowsy belfry
like not contest, Yoshi already mentioned that Zadnor would have an item EVERYBODY would want
opaque hemlock
Is it.... any good?
drowsy belfry
And who doesn't want Cruise Chaser?
clever flume
opaque hemlock
Ah, yeah if that is the case Zadnor makes sense. It'd be the new Ozma
pine epoch
Mogtome we know through datamine. Go to that link and you'll see it
maiden lodge
Cruise Chaser in zadnor might not make narrative sense
pine epoch
Technically cerberus is the bozjan ozma. But CC would probably be a mount reward in Zadnor.
maiden lodge
But... sometimes... 'fuck it, have a cool thing'
pine epoch
CC item is stated to be untradeable and unique tho. So it might be a achievement in 5.55 and not a loot box. Or it could be from some chest drop in 5.55
clever flume
i mean does cerberus really make sense for DRS?
next quarry
i mean
stiff charm
CC item is stated to be untradeable and unique tho. So it might be a achievement...
final dungeon chest drop
next quarry
dino horn from anemos was untradeable, just not unique iirc
pine epoch
It should of been unique hate getting duplicates of the dino
drowsy belfry
I will not rest till I have CC
and every relic, but I mean as long as I don't have to do DR 255 times AGAIN that's easy
clever flume
question is though....will it have forward and back as its music
pine epoch
Yes kael it does
opaque hemlock
As an FFIX fan getting Ozma was a must. Cruise Chaser will be no different
clever flume
good, cos i was gonna say. if it didn't...it would be a fucking sin
pine epoch
Sadly it isnt the primals forward and back like I wanted. But I mean need a reason to buy the primals albums cant have all of them in 14
stiff charm
nah borderless
clever flume
im so tired of borderless. i hope that we get a new generic mount song with endwalkers we won't
somber storm
Or the ability to change from a pool of songs
pine epoch
Borderless was supposed to be a cool special theme since it's a remix of middy theme
opaque hemlock
Wonder what excuse they'll give us to fly on the moon
pine epoch
Twintania and Behemoth need to both play Thunderer when you ride them. Fenrir should play snowcloak or gold saucer theme
wet crown
Wonder what excuse they'll give us to fly on the moon
Zodiark
somber storm
Moon trolley
pine epoch
There should be a 8th lanner that plays the warring triad theme and have all the triad glows. And the warring lanner name changed to fiend lanner. And play the fiend
I believe if brought to sokens attention he will change up mount themes and give them more unique themes
clever flume
it was already brought to soken's attention though for fiend
and the mount theme variety in general has also already been brought up
iirc yoshi-p said there's only so much space
pine epoch
What happened to the ARR generic mount theme that disappeared
clever flume
i mean still exists 🤷♀️
a rider's boon and borderless were basically ground mount generic music and flying mount generic music
but since everything is flying now all new mounts that have generic music are borderless
pine epoch
I think a issue is how its worded
Sometimes the way people word questions will often times result different answers. Like nothing wrong with boarderless it was just a mistake using it for every fuckin mount. And should of been Middy only theme.
clever flume
=_= i can't find yoshi-p comments but I KNOW it was asked and answered before
dusk drift
wait, mounts besides middy use Borderless?
it's a remix of Primogenitor, why would anyone else use it
dim sigil
Imagine being that blissfully ignorant not knowing borderless is used on everything I can tell you don't use Mount music ever
At least we get some cool ones
Like the hollween theem for the eyeball
clever flume
i wanna say it was a QnA with soken but i'm not entirely certain
indigo shale
i wish the mount from a12s played Rise instead of moebius
pine epoch
If anything soken should put the Dueling theme from pvp as the generic mount music. Or make a new remix of like a fan favorite song.
clever flume
so i found someone else's comment about it, but t hey don't like the source for it
Yoshi has made comments a few times that make it sound like all the different mount music tracks are loaded at once whenever you're in a zone, and changing mounts just mutes everything except the appropriate one. So they have a finite amount of space to put separate tracks, and thus are saving what space IS there for things like raid mounts, trial mounts, etc.
sounds like it was mentioned during a LL but i can't find anything in #translations-and-liveletters
dim sigil
I have no game developer so of course I have zero knowledge on how things work but I feel like if it's hard to change Mount music that is probably not a good thing
somber storm
Don't forget, spaghetti code
clever flume
this is really fucking frustrating
gaunt star
OwO
arctic belfry
who's ready for the new melee job tomorrow
fallen girder
torpid yoke
who's ready for the new melee job tomorrow
i am
gaunt star
You mean the limited melee class
teal geyser
who's ready for the new melee job tomorrow
I'm ready for Chemist yes
arctic belfry
if it's chemist i'll be surprised
teal geyser
So would I
torpid yoke
Yoshi-p playing the long game
lunar hound
isn't the new melee job supposed to use the maiming set?
arctic belfry
yes
torpid yoke
Though dont know what it would have to do with death
teal geyser
Yeah maiming, Very likely scythe using
arctic belfry
it's going to be necromancer xD
gaunt star
Fuckign chemist
lunar hound
ngl I'll feel a bit sad about DRG not having unique armor anymore but oh well
gaunt star
Play ninja
torpid yoke
Yeah maiming, ***Very likely scythe using***
INB4 hammer
arctic belfry
drg still could
torpid yoke
ngl I'll feel a bit sad about DRG not having unique armor anymore but oh well
It'll be a god send since i wont have only one job using the damn armor set
oak pike
i hope theres more better maiming style
torpid yoke
what do you mean
oak pike
i dont like most of the maiming sets looks
brittle lion
Man I hope they show final fantasy fourteen shadowbringers at fanfest
arctic belfry
they will
random ravine
when does it start?
soft gyro
i wonder what shadowbringers will bring us
arctic belfry
tomorrow 6pm pst
tough fern
Reeeeaaaaaaaaaperrrrrrrrrrr
arctic belfry
it's in #translations-and-liveletters
brittle lion
I'm betting the new class uses nunchucks
gloomy shale
Will they announce vanilla FFXIV?
soft gyro
haha no
arctic belfry
no
oak pike
imagine its another lesser known ff job
gloomy shale
it's a joke folks
brittle lion
Man I cant wait for the YoshiP exclusive figures to go on sale
gaunt star
uwu
heady shadow
im not ready.
because i have to choose between the fanfest and the pso2 ng beta
arctic belfry
why not both
wet crown
fanfest is only on two days
arctic belfry
use 2 monitors
heady shadow
thought about it but..... reee
torpid yoke
play the beta
arctic belfry
but ffxiv > pso2
gaunt star
Woah new chat
heady shadow
why does it have the start at the exact same time T^T
arctic belfry
because it's friday night
gaunt star
Geomancer announcement, 1.0 classic, and bangaa race incoming 😎
torpid yoke
but ffxiv > pso2
nah this is NGS. NGS is more fun from what ive played of it
heady shadow
the music on the menu is pretty T^T
lusty shadowBOT
Tick, Tock, Kupo!
gaunt star
soon
Also lunar whale available in just over 12hrs
plain saffron
Gross
torpid yoke
whats gross?
gaunt star
The incoming price of the lunar whale
A small price to pay to crash PS3s and low-end pcs
pine epoch
oh this place is up
prisma vine
any leak or info about the price on the whale?
lusty shadowBOT
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crystal arrow
looking forward to the wild theories
gaunt star
!item lunar whale identification key
lusty shadowBOT
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prisma vine
so no word on price ok
gaunt star
Yea we wont know price until its on mogstation
You team up with Sam and Dean Winchester to take down God Zenos with a special doctor who collab
Which is in 12hrs 13m (if my math is right)
prisma vine
guy can always hope. i'm figuring it's gonna be very high and honestly betting that's why its price was not released early, so fanfest hype can drown out any frustration lol
gaunt star
Remind me do pre orders go up the same day as the last fanfest?
Considering everyone just disappears into the mount id be annoyed if its an exorbitant amount. At most 70 dollars, but thats still ehh
dusk drift
Remind me do pre orders go up the same day as the last fanfest?
That’s how it’s been the last couple times
maiden lodge
Soken mix of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igLy60cgVXQ or we riot
gaunt star
Ok fingers crossed this won’t be 2019 fanfest electric boogaloo
What happened with 2019
What didnt happen at fanfest 2019
I- no really, what happened
maiden lodge
What *didnt* happen at fanfest 2019
Oh yeah the audio problems at the start of the keynote lawl
dusk drift
Some people had a rough time preordering, especially the collector’s Ed.
pine epoch
@maiden lodge The trailer for the lunar whale has a remix of that
gaunt star
Audio breaking peoples ears, no healer, race fiasco, etc
maiden lodge
<@!275781124872077315> The trailer for the lunar whale has a remix of that
There's a trailer?!
pine epoch
maiden lodge
Thankyouthankyouthankyou
steep coral
IV was one of my favorite ff, 2nd to ffx
maiden lodge
Okay that gave me the tingles
pine epoch
Also I find it funny the ironworks created the lunar whale
maiden lodge
That looks like Nero's side of the business
gaunt star
This was so fuckin hype when it got announced
maiden lodge
'I made the airship for the scions, the Excelsior!' 'Oh... that's quaint cid...' goes off to make a spaceship
lusty shadowBOT
Tick, Tock, Kupo!
next quarry
Home
gaunt star
oh i can actually stay up fgor it thats awesome
odd yoke
Lunar whale....lunar primals...Bismark is a whale... lunar whale is Bismark 
gaunt star
The real question is what the collectors edition mount will be
tiny wind
ah yes the 3am fanfest
odd yoke
A star destroyer
pastel coyote
I need to practice......I was right ! I was RIGHT ! I WAS RIGHT !
odd yoke
ah yes the 3am fanfest
Who needs sleep right 
tiny wind
true 
odd yoke
I am interested to see more sage...my heads been brainstorming ideas for their Shields.... Like "augmenting" them to give them effects when they break like TBN
open verge
IM DANCIN NAKED LERS GOOOO
pine epoch
@bold condor I made a similar shitpost on another discord. But instead its Vitiate from SWTOR and he caused the final days and will be the final boss.
open verge
Final boss is actually the same fight from ass creed 2
bold condor
lore too deep, joke would've been lost
the final boss is Ganondorf, he was controlling Zenos the whole time
arctic belfry
final boss is the moon from majora's mask
odd yoke
The blade of Light is just the helix sword
gaunt star
Will They Fix Alisiae's Double Hair Ties In The Full Trailer: the most important question
oak pike
nah
viscid monolith
The second hair tie symbolically represents || Lyse after she dies ||
regal lantern
@unique verge you still think new job is not Scythe?
mystic quarry
Hi everyone,
Are there any Rules about Re-Streams from the Live Event? :sadcarby:
tropic frigate
like streaming it while they are or?
open verge
Nope
uncut cedar
What time Eastern time for start of famfest?
drowsy ivy
why is this channel NSFW 
clever flume
because discord doesn't have a spoiler tag thing for channels
so nsfw tag is used as a "HEY ARE YOU SURE YOU WANNA BE IN HERE" barrier
uncut cedar
I thought it meant not safe for wedgies
kind lark
why is this channel NSFW <:NamazuPray:679983283152486441>
Zenos
elder moth
What time Eastern time for start of famfest?
6 West coast, 9 east coast
elder moth
PM
viscid monolith
so nsfw tag is used as a "HEY ARE YOU SURE YOU WANNA BE IN HERE" barrier
Discord really is made by cooders cause they're lazy as shit
pseudo umbra
i got bored
memish bingo sheet
kindred marsh
oak pike
beavers nice lol
clever flume
those are beavers
lunar hound
placid sail
the final boss of the expansion will be Palpatine
gaunt star
“Is it ok to eat these sandwiches made by the crystal exarch?”
pastel coyote
I don't see audio problem in the bingo
gaunt star
No music in the trailer just loud booms
torpid yoke
i got bored
memish bingo sheet
some of these things we would not hear about in fanfest stream
oak pike
bass boosted force lighting
dim sigil
At long last this channel ishere
vital brook
so nsfw tag is used as a "HEY ARE YOU SURE YOU WANNA BE IN HERE" barrier
I mean you could get a "Spoil me" role, that has access to this channel
clever flume
that's way more work than necessary, especially for a channel that's only active for a few weeks
viscid monolith
Or just don't come into the channel
vital brook
True dat, could be used for #archived-lore-spoilers too, and put the role in #831381743927033906
clever flume
also or...discord could just make two different things for different purposes instead of forcing stupid ways of dealing with spoilers
maiden lodge
Besides, people posting on spoilery stuff kinda should know what they're getting into
torpid yoke
dont think like a manager thats not on the floor and has to deal with moves every damn day
think like an empolyee
viscid monolith
Ok I hate my life and I drink my problems away
torpid yoke
im tired of my manager if you couldnt tell
maiden lodge
im tired of my manager if you couldnt tell
I mean who isn't
Last time I wasn't tired of a supervisor was when I had the powers of an acting supervisor.
viscid monolith
Seems like management is lacking a lot of places
pine epoch
6.0 is actually just a Yakuza game.
pastel coyote
dance, sing and pachinko ?
tiny wind
cant wait to sing baka mitai again
rain onyx
Don’t forget micro circuit
pine epoch
Dragon Kart racing
rain onyx
Yakuza also has mahjong in it 
pine epoch
Mahjong, Poker, Black jack, dartz
tiny wind
things ive never touched when i played the games
gaunt star
Yakuza crossover in 7.0
pine epoch
I play all the minigames
pastel coyote
It's ok no one play mahjong
pine epoch
atleast Yakuza you have a Cheat button for Mahjong for people who don't want to learn it
tiny wind
cba to play mahjong and shogi
pine epoch
the final boss of 6.0 will take place ontop of a big tower
tiny wind
lmao
oak pike
are we fighting shirtless ?
tiny wind
time to just tiger drop the final boss
pine epoch
Zenos everywhere system
Your just doing a dungeon, and then Zenos invades you at the final boss
pastel coyote
You mean Zenos invade like in dark soul pvp
pine epoch
Zenos performs a backstab on you while your afk waiting for your healer to stop taking care of their cat
kind lark
Zenos does the well, what is it? emote.
pine epoch
its funny, the Femroe /welcome emote looks very much like "Well, What is it"
placid sail
giantdad pose
kind lark
Duuude, Zenos' new weapon will be a chaos zweihander
pine epoch
dusk drift
ok i just wanna confirm since i'm bad w/ timezones and such
does the fanfest start tonight or tomorrow
placid sail
pine epoch
Tomorrow
placid sail
i wish he had used a pop filter
gaunt star
Better beards or butt slider plz yoship
dusk drift
the lack of pop filtering is a key part of the shitpost aesthetic
bold condor
inb4 new job
next quarry
no
kind lark
yes
next quarry
whatever it turns out to be, I hope its new
kind moss
The new job better have cupholders
bold condor
new job smell
pine epoch
One of the boss themes in 6.0 is going to be something that people will find very unfitting but will become a classic. Its gonna be some Dubstep music with like Aztec noises and Rap singing.
odd yoke
The new, stinki melee smell
clever flume
inb4 new job
can i have him
bold condor
yes
soft gyro
reaper is just a farmer turned into a battle job
clever flume
hades isnt my kind of game but its art style is so good
next quarry
same kael
wraith arrow
WHA
kind lark
Rogue likes aren't for everyone
wraith arrow
Fuck is a rogue like