retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[gloomy shale]

what ilvl is the nier gear?

[maiden lodge]

And that one game is not called 'Final Fantasy 14'

[severe brook]

one to know who he is, one to know why he's there. so i understand RWM's confusion.

[open verge]

It’s like 5 games you have to play to understand all the references

[vale tapir]

520

[open verge]

[vital topaz]

Lets keep it clean here, remember, we're literally arguing over the meaning of words in a video game.

[severe brook]

if we're talking in total, then it's four games. D1, D3, N, NA

[torpid yoke]

im not saying they should play it im just saying its only one to know the character

though they do like being obtuse

[severe brook]

but you need another to understand why he's there
their frustration is not unfounded when it comes to all the references in Dark Apocalypse, especially with its finale

especially since Drakengard is a notoriously obscure/esoteric series

[torpid yoke]

they still like being obtuse XD

@open verge whats one thing you liked from this patch

[viscid monolith]

The Red Girl literally comes out of nowhere

[open verge]

Werlyt story and msq and nier raid mechanically

[pearl pond]

I mean Taro locks himself in lockers lmao obtuse is putting it lightly

[torpid yoke]

i wasnt talking about taro

[viscid monolith]

Literally this is the first time we see her halfway into the raid. Not even pre raid.

[severe brook]

she shows up in the Bunker very briefly, i think
or maybe i'm just imagining that

[open verge]

I think my criticism of the raid is all fair lmfao

[torpid yoke]

im convinced fckn annog will show up in like reincarnation or something

or end up being accord

[severe brook]

okay no wait i'm confusing scenes from automata with dark apocalypse lmao
the red girl briefly shows up in 9S' perspective for a few seconds in some scenes

[torpid yoke]

i wouldnt put it past the old man

[maiden lodge]

Werlyt story tho, so good

[open verge]

If we can get a yoko story then we can get a suda story js

[torpid yoke]

suda isnt square enix

[open verge]

I’m not serious

[carmine basin]

Red girls was given if you know the lore, since they were behind the machines before yorha creation. Tho if someone only knows the raid, they can come out of nowhere yeah

[torpid yoke]

text doesnt convey sarcasm

[late aurora]

That’s why /s exists

[open verge]

True

[somber storm]

balan wonderworld raid when /s

[severe brook]

i joked before about a Killer7 raid where it's revealed that ||all 24 alliance members are one person in different costumes, moving very fast||

[severe brook]

another finger on the monkey's paw curls

[torpid yoke]

You know too much

Sonic the hedgehog raid when /s

[late aurora]

FATE

[open verge]

The suda raid would force you to play crafter and gatherers to make enough gil to afford the next raid step

[torpid yoke]

know what better yet

full metal alchemist raid when

[open verge]

A suda raid would just be about the WOL being depressed about continuously killing raid bosses

[spice vessel]

Do you think the Amal'jaa were just stuck in that fleshy stuff in the tower? Or do you think they were like.. grafted/fused to it

[somber storm]

yes

[severe brook]

unclear as to how far the containment goes, like if they're just in flesh carbonite or if all we see is all there is

[torpid yoke]

my vote is tentacles

[severe brook]

it's just that one scene in Bright on a macro scale

[spice vessel]

😦

[severe brook]

Bright's a weird film. Removed the image on second thoughts, it was gorier than I remembered.

[torpid yoke]

show the gore

[visual spade]

Yoko Taro, the madman

[torpid yoke]

give in to the goreeeeeeeee

[visual spade]

Put a rhythm game in an MMO fight

[torpid yoke]

i think thats his legal middle name

[visual spade]

Now he's making the conclusion to his storyline a weekly quest, with "grind" in the quest title

[brisk quail]

Yoko The Madman Taro put in the hacking minigame in FFXIV

[visual spade]

I would have liked to have a SHMUP section

[brisk quail]

Savage alliance raid. Only for Tower

[visual spade]

Overall I liked these raids more'n the Ivalice ones, if only and primarily because you have less dipshit characters and more likable ones.

[late aurora]

Well I mean, suzaku had that DDR section

[brisk quail]

Like ramza.

[torpid yoke]

tell me why i thought the movie bright was the movie brightburn

[brisk quail]

Ramza was a turd until he finally had a turn around

[visual spade]

Both have bad titles

[late aurora]

Because words are hard

[carmine basin]

Omg you can glamour charlemend

[somber storm]

Charlemend in a moogle suit

[tall totem]

I'm still so confused by Red Girl. That mechanic overload was insane jfc

[obsidian pagoda]

One of the quests is called Charlemend's Angels and I love it lol

[visual spade]

The only part that confused me there was the rotating part

and the meteors seemed inconsistent

[tall totem]

Somehow our entire alliance wiped at the part where we got transformed into little bots and had to shoot through walls.

[open verge]

Is the ishgard content out already ?

With the fetes

[tall totem]

I assume people didn't read the tooltips on their 1 and 2 skills but hey shit happens. The rotating part was also really weird yeah

[late aurora]

Fetes start in a day, pretty much

[somber storm]

Oh yeah, chicken event soon

[carmine basin]

You can go to Firmament to check the fete schedule

I want the outfit coffer from it ripped jeans!!

[visual spade]

Ugh it's gonna be so long before the expansion

Minimum five months, I'm wagering October release if not Sept

I wanna go to the mooooooon

[late aurora]

Oh yeah I have a reason to Ocean Fish again

Completely slipped my mind

[potent marsh]

Valens be like

[deft burrow]

Probably October release for EW

[late trail]

pop out the bad

[deft burrow]

I doubt Square wants to release EW in November when that's Pokemon month

[severe brook]

Valens and his many "I am a genius! Oh no!" moments this patch

[potent marsh]

Pokemon gets a new game every other year right?

[severe brook]

https://tenor.com/view/gundam-oh-no-im-a-genius-gif-20412333

[late aurora]

Or they remake an old one

One or the other

[potent marsh]

Oh right it’s new game remake new game

Forgot the formula

[maiden lodge]

The new dungeon's theme reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUuaqKuMmrY?t=40 in the intro (at 40 seconds)

[late aurora]

New, remake, new, remake, Oh wait spin-offs exist, new game

[potent marsh]

This be yatening backwards for up time in a mechanic and still wiping the group

[twin horizon]

is there an imgur for the new nier raid fullset?

[deft burrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WUH-Nb9phM

[twin horizon]

ty

[potent marsh]

How did they get the entire set

Day 1?

[deft burrow]

They don't

Its a program that lets you set your character to look like anything

I forgot the name

[visual spade]

Can I just say, FF14 tends to tow a nice line of not having a lot of out-and-out gore and having kinda simple graphics, so violent scenes tend to not be, y'know, super violent. So, that being said, holy shit, the Valens end scene

Like, there's a dripping sound effect.

[deft burrow]

Yeah my guy gets popped like a balloon

[echo orbit]

got kaworu'd

[visual spade]

That was impressively done for Final Fantasy. I mean, the most famous death in FF is bloodless and clean.

Valens gets juiced.

[somber storm]

https://tenor.com/view/oatmeal-meme-pop-cat-popping-cat-poggers-gif-19386984

[potent marsh]

Yeah but we can’t have tails falling off any rathalos, to violent. I’m sure having a man slowly be crushed to death before poping like a balloon is rate T

[visual spade]

Dismemberment lol, well, that's fine.

It's like One Piece. One Piece kills a dude in the first episode totally incidentally, and then NOBODY DIES for 7 years.

[obsidian pagoda]

It's not as graphic as Oberyn from GoT, but it'll do

[potent marsh]

I think shb did a lot worse with that sin eater transformation

[visual spade]

And after all this shit, people just getting the everloving crap beat out of them but never dying from cartoonishly fatal injuries, you kinda get used to this feeling of immortality -- and then BAM. People die.

[coarse pond]

Ugh. When only aiming and striking look good from new raid

[visual spade]

ShB was about as dark and graphic as I've seen FF be.

[coarse pond]

[late aurora]

Can’t dismember Rath because Capcom payed them not to

[visual spade]

It had huge Parasite Eve vibes in places even with the body horror.

[obsidian pagoda]

XVI looks to be the darkest so far

What with full on decapitation on screen

[somber storm]

Whole lot of blood

[potent marsh]

Laughs in type zero

[visual spade]

I never played typezero

[somber storm]

Hey now, we haven't seen the head fall off the body in full yet

[visual spade]

looked like anime

[obsidian pagoda]

Didn't they ||all commit suicide at the end?||

[late aurora]

Spoilers ||everyone fucking dies||

[visual spade]

Sounds lame

[dim sigil]

Ew seems to be going for lovecraftian horror I love it

[visual spade]

EW is about a "new dawn" so it's got to set up a new lasting status quo

[obsidian pagoda]

Garlemald tower is straight out of HR Giger

[somber storm]

Flesh towers

[visual spade]

It reminds me of the Void Ark

[obsidian pagoda]

It is VERY Mhachi

[deft burrow]

They teased us so hard with Zenos's weapon

Ughh, just show us the scythe

[potent marsh]

Those resplendent tools look like an absolute pain in the ass, you have to make 3 expert recipes one of which is a fucking 5* recipe

Just to get 1 of 60 items for turn in

[visual spade]

Zenos with a scythe would be so much edge I'd love it.

[potent marsh]

Wtf is that square

[deft burrow]

The weapon sounded like a bladed weapon when he pulled it out of the ground

[potent marsh]

I still think it’s going to be muramusa

[cinder badger]

It was a Nerf bat

It's not going to be a katana he just threw a katana which clearly shows that he is no longer interested in said weapon

[somber storm]

that was the drk odenta

[dim sigil]

Drk zenos
Drk zenos

[deft burrow]

Regardless he stepped on his katana in 5.4

[clever dove]

I won’t be surprised if it is a Scythe and we end up with a Reaper/Scythe class, it happened with Gaius and Gunbreaker after all

[deft burrow]

So he isn't gonna be using katanas or swords or axes

[dim sigil]

I am like quite sure the weapon was datamined

[deft burrow]

Ah that scythe image

[dim sigil]

Yeah

[deft burrow]

Yeah I believe so.

[cinder badger]

Zenos' choice of weapon doesn't necessarily mean it's tied to the new job

[deft burrow]

Eh

[dim sigil]

Does the model exist in the cutscene even

[clever dove]

It doesn’t apparently

[deft burrow]

It will be with how they are framing it

[dim sigil]

Lore wise prob not

But he's poster boy for it

[clever dove]

Someone depth viewed the scene and he’s just picking up air

[cinder badger]

@deft burrow maybe they're framing it like that because Yoshida is the biggest troll in Final Fantasy 14

[deft burrow]

He wouldn't hype up a scythe class just to shit on people who were hyped about it which is a majority of the playerbase. That's a dumb move and he knows it.

[clever dove]

I doubt there will be any actual models of it until the next patch

[cinder badger]

He never mentioned anything about a scythe

[deft burrow]

By next patch it will be revealed

[cinder badger]

He's not the one hyping people up about a Scythe job that would be the fanbase doing that to themselves

[deft burrow]

Look at all his shirts, the excessive hinting towards scythes in dialogue and cinematics

[torpid yoke]

makes sense

[deft burrow]

Have you not been paying attention?

[gaunt star]

the playerbase are helpless fanatics who will stay subbed whether or not there is a scythe class.

[dim sigil]

The styche image tho is odd to include

[cinder badger]

So apparently every shirt he wears is now some hidden message

[somber storm]

Lilo and Styche

[late aurora]

Zenos picked up a blitzball

[torpid yoke]

the common thread has been a reaper and scythe so scythe seems likely

[deft burrow]

Uh when its 3 shirts in a row all depicting a scythe or reaper, yeah. @cinder badger

[clever dove]

His shirts correlate to the class in some way, he did it with DRK and RDM I believe

[obsidian pagoda]

Also SAM

[cinder badger]

Or what about the theory that the shirt he wore during The Fan Fest had ties to Templar that was a different Theory

But one that was founded because he pulled the same stunt before with the Spider-Man shirt

[obsidian pagoda]

That was only one shirt, the subsequent 2 shirts had just been straight up Grim reaper

[deft burrow]

Well with the two shirts after having a hint towards death metal bands and scythes... Templar goes out the window.

[cinder badger]

@deft burrow but he didn't draw attention to those shirts he drew attention to the one he changed into

[torpid yoke]

Could be the name of the job but other common thread would be scythe so we are back where we started

[clever dove]

Wasn’t the Spider-Man shirt a reference to Sam Rami (Samurai)

[torpid yoke]

yes

and he explicitly gave us the hint to look at the directors name

[clever dove]

Ahhh

[deft burrow]

Didn't do that here

[cinder badger]

The filth and the Fury shirt

[torpid yoke]

ok but again other common thread is scythe so even if the name of the job is templar it could use a scythe as a weapon

[deft burrow]

No one is talking about the name

Just what the weapon is

[late bronze]

Which metal band was on yoshi's shirt?

[obsidian pagoda]

Children of Bodom

[cinder badger]

I don't care what people are talkin about because people aren't the ones who made this game so they have no clue what the new job will be they can only make guesses

Just like the initial guess was seeing a grim reaper on the shirt and thinking it was going to be necromancer

[coarse pond]

After completing 5.5 am having doubts if any of those are correct.

We might venture to Sharlyan in 6.0 so I guess the job could be fitting the Hogwarts theme

[visual spade]

Templar with scythes woudld be dope

[deft burrow]

If you don't care then stop arguing lol @cinder badger

[visual spade]

It does seem like a trip to Sharlayan is in the cards

[deft burrow]

Most likely @visual spade

[visual spade]

But idk, you can't have Sharlayan, Garlemald and Thavnair, Garlemald alone -- Islabard is a whole place, and there's numerous provinces

[late bronze]

Well, children of bodom=reaper, album follow the reaper, scythe weapon so it's a simple theory

[deft burrow]

death metal

[visual spade]

Strawman

[cinder badger]

It would be very funny if it turned out to not be a scythe and then all the people who were so hyped about scythe get all pissy and then you Yoshida simply explains that he never mentioned a scythe and probably would say something along the lines of " who uses a scythe in battle" ?

[late bronze]

Or maybe was only a tribute for their singer Alexi who died months ago

[deft burrow]

Doesn't matter what it is as long as its not a hammer class, I'm switching to it. Everything is pointing towards a scythe weapon though.

[obsidian pagoda]

Look if we get Nero's weapon I'm not gonna complain

[clever dove]

I’m kinda looking forward to seeing how Sage plays honestly

[cinder badger]

You mean you hope it's scythe. See people have this thing where they see things that aren't actually there or they see what they want to see

[deft burrow]

Except things... are there.

I don't see how you can just ignore these things

[obsidian pagoda]

I am today's year old when I learnt that you can just right click the empty boxes in the Hand Over window to get the item

[solemn kiln]

^ I feel like there’s been some decent evidence to point towards a scythe

[cinder badger]

No you think they are there you want them to be there you hope that's what these Clues actually point to but you cannot be 100% sure

[torpid yoke]

sage seems to stem from sharlayan

[deft burrow]

I don't "think" they are there. THEY are there. Literally look at the evidence we have provided you.

I never said I was 100% sure. If I was 100% sure I wouldn't be arguing with you.

[cinder badger]

Everybody initially thought Spider-Man pointed to Blue mage just saying

[late bronze]

Ofc not 100% sure, but following same example as past shirt, that is

[torpid yoke]

a character they created for their msq named ranjit

[deft burrow]

Lmao

[torpid yoke]

also you seem to be throwing out some big accusations there bud

[clever dove]

Probably should throw out there that as (far as I’m aware) there has never been a “Reaper” class in final fantasy games

[torpid yoke]

dont really appreciate it when we all just speculating, hoping and using evidence that points towards a scythe

[torpid yoke]

Tactics a2 iirc

[deft burrow]

Red Mage wasn't a class before either

[late bronze]

@torpid yoke it's not the same thing for 6.0 and lore? Only speculating

[torpid yoke]

wait no i misread that as reaver

[strange wing]

Neither was AST

[late bronze]

@deft burrow it was

[deft burrow]

It was?

[strange wing]

Also yea RedMage is old

[deft burrow]

Oh yeah

[late bronze]

FF5

[torpid yoke]

what?

[cinder badger]

The new job is botanist then

[late bronze]

Sorry wrong tag

[strange wing]

Astrologian is pretty much FF14 exclusive

[brave zodiac]

didnt it come out with samurai at the start of SB? its not that old

[strange wing]

No the class as a concept

[brave zodiac]

ah nvm then

[somber storm]

20 hours till the fete...

[clever dove]

AST was in Tactics too

[carmine basin]

What time would that be

[winged hill]

That song at the end of paradigm's breach is really nice

[torpid yoke]

Botanist is already a disciple of the land so they wouldnt do that

[visual spade]

It makes me feel like we're not doing such a good thing?

[somber storm]

technically afternoon for me if i did the math right

[visual spade]

But the Constructs seem evil

[deft burrow]

I mean scythes have been used by DRK, Beastmasters, WAR, and BLMs in FF history

[visual spade]

What were they up to, if not wickedness?

[cinder badger]

@torpid yoke but the botanist already has scythe.

[deft burrow]

So the weapon has been used before

[visual spade]

Hammer

[late bronze]

@winged hill kainé is awesome

[visual spade]

Berserker class, let's gooooooo

oh wait, Engineer class. For Garlemald.

[strange wing]

Invoking prologue and Kain's theme was amazing

[visual spade]

...wait, that'd just be Machinist. :/

[torpid yoke]

warriors already have a axe yet warrior is a job

[dim sigil]

I don't really need berserker Warrior covers that already

[strange wing]

Hammer would be cool but it's probably scythe

Maiming is the edge class gear

[lapis topaz]

Swords >.>
How many classes have swords?
Doesnt matter if it has been used before

[torpid yoke]

i find regular hammers boring. Gun hammer though? thatd be dope

[visual spade]

I'm gonna so do the scythe class.

[deft burrow]

If its a scythe that'd be great

[clever dove]

Gun-Scythe lets go RWBY

[late bronze]

Death Knight

[heady shadow]

youreally wanna shove rwby crap in this game eh....

[deft burrow]

ew

[strange wing]

Yea, at least be cool with the scythe and not just a big pokey stick

[heady shadow]

xD

[torpid yoke]

bout like 5

[clever dove]

You leave DRG out of this 😛

[edgy gale]

SE is just going to hand wave away any conflicts w/ whatever weapon they add or they're just going to ignore it. They do distinguish canes and rods even though we've past the point where there is a material difference.

[visual spade]

I'm already a DRG main it'll be so easy

Rip and tear

[solemn kiln]

I mean it’s a fantasy jrpg I’d be shocked if there weren’t multiple sword classes

[visual spade]

We will eventually get scimitars

[clever dove]

We tank the floor so the rest of the party don’t have to

[strange wing]

Ill just stick with Sam cause im decent at it.

[deft burrow]

There is no class with only a one handed basic sword

[late bronze]

@deft burrow paladin

[deft burrow]

Not one handed

[visual spade]

I used SAM throughout all of Stormblood and beyond, but went back to DRG for ShB

[deft burrow]

Has a shield as well

[solemn kiln]

Well one handed sword with a shield in the other

[visual spade]

DRG's just always been my fav

[late bronze]

Oh you mean that

[deft burrow]

Not purely just one handed sword class

[torpid yoke]

You can hide the shield though

[visual spade]

A one-handed sword with no shield is kinda ...

[deft burrow]

right but its still there

[visual spade]

like, what do you gain? What's the advantage to not having a shield?

[clever dove]

Same, DRG is my go-to DPS, Gunbreaker is my Main Tank

[solemn kiln]

I can see dual wielding swords but just one handed is...

[visual spade]

Dual wielding scimitar class.

[late bronze]

Well, even irl if you have only a sword you will use 2 hands, like a samurai

[strange wing]

Drk/Sam/Mch/Blm/Whm

[visual spade]

But tbh, whips

A whip class should come before a sword

[deft burrow]

Phys ranged whip class is something I've been saying could be pretty cool

[solemn kiln]

That’s be neat

[visual spade]

Hell, make it a whip-sword.

[strange wing]

Drk has a thing like that so it's possible in engine

[visual spade]

We'll know in May, one way or another

[cinder badger]

So apparently the French dialogue in the game Fandango refers to the weapon Zenos chose as "archaic"

[maiden lodge]

...called fencing.

[visual spade]

Scythe would certainly fit that. Or a club.

[solemn kiln]

LOL

[deft burrow]

Sounds like a bladed weapon

[visual spade]

Oh it's a hammer then.

[deft burrow]

When he pulls it out of the ground

[clever dove]

May is too far away ;w; I want to pull a Cartman and freeze myself until then

[visual spade]

Zenos has a hammer.

[cinder badger]

Scythe would not fit the term archaic

[deft burrow]

Yes they would?

[indigo shale]

scythes are very old are they not

[deft burrow]

since 500BC

[cinder badger]

You would be very hard-pressed to find scythes actually used in battle lol so no they aren't old-fashioned unless you're talking about those ones that are basically polearms

[visual spade]

I mean, it's an odd word for any of these weapons but scythes are pretty ancient tools -- not usually weapons of war

But a halberd

[clever dove]

I mean, real world ninjas used to use hand Scythes as weapons

[visual spade]

They had sickles on chains

It was dope. Lemme do that pls.

[clever dove]

Lol

[deft burrow]

Regardless the model of Zenos's weapon has been datamined

[edgy gale]

"Archaic" is in the context of the game. Any weapon/job could be archaic depending on how they write the lore.

[somber storm]

kamas

[deft burrow]

Most likely his weapon anyway, fits no where else

[cinder badger]

By the way the weapon he pulled out was air

[solemn kiln]

Got an image?

[clever dove]

I mean we even have a “Scythe” in game already. It’s just a glamour weapon

[indigo shale]

also FFXIV isnt real life, so what reason would scythes have not being weapons, could just be a forgotten practice in universe

[visual spade]

It's the Mogsword

[obsidian pagoda]

Look, if a dude with bare hands can suplex a goddamn train, anything is a weapon

[serene crest]

Keep in mind that the other new job uses flying laser cannons as a weapon. Practicality is a nonissue.

[obsidian pagoda]

Realism is not in this game's lexicon

[deft burrow]

@solemn kiln

[solemn kiln]

Can we get a class that uses a super soaker filled with acid

[deft burrow]

sent by dataminer in this chat early last night

[indigo shale]

doesnt machinist already have that

[obsidian pagoda]

That would've been chemist but we didn't get it

[visual spade]

I am le skeptical

[solemn kiln]

Looks very placeholder-ish

[clever dove]

That looks like FFXI’s Scythe model

[obsidian pagoda]

That weapon feels way too plain for a main antagonist

[deft burrow]

Well it was added in the 5.5 patch notes

[indigo shale]

i feel thats fake or place holder, they would give zenos a way better looking weapon that that

[deft burrow]

Probably placeholder model

[solemn kiln]

Maybe just testing it for when zenos does hold a scythe, if he does indeed get a scythe

[pine epoch]

I mean the CG trailer for EW you can see the scythe only a small part but it looks more detailed than that

[deft burrow]

Yeah, but the fact that its just a scythe is pretty telling. I doubt his weapon will look like this but... Most likely his weapon will be a scythe

[visual spade]

Zenos with a scythe feels right

[indigo shale]

if its somehow not a scythe job i will be very surprised due to all the hints given

[pine epoch]

That might be the level 70 scythe for when the job starts

[deft burrow]

Possibly

[solemn kiln]

Alongside the reaper and scythe imagery this is like the primary reason why I believe it’s a scythe

[cinder badger]

Whatever happened to that picture people posted around depicting Zeno sitting in a very strange position to prove that it wasn't a scythe lol

[pine epoch]

If that is the weapon zenos takes it might also be a case of. Wanting to test how it feels. Since zenos didnt start off with ame no habakiri

[solemn kiln]

You mean that image where they drew him sitting like a crab lol?

[cinder badger]

@solemn kiln Yes!!

[solemn kiln]

I love that image

[visual spade]

I'm convinced on scythe, I just dunno what they'll call it

[deft burrow]

Yeah

[visual spade]

Templar would be cool, and they could make them a sort of scythe/halberd blend

[solemn kiln]

Yeah if zenos is dumping a katana I’m expecting something a bit different than just a sword

[deft burrow]

Halberd goes too much into DRG territory

[winged hill]

Poor konogg.

[pine epoch]

But ya, that kind of scythe that was posted up above would work great as a mix of Sweeping motions and polearm fighting

[visual spade]

I don't even know where to start with those two

[cinder badger]

Like every time a collective group of people get together and just become so adamant about what something is going to be I almost pray for the opposite just so I can watch them implode but I couldn't really care less what the weapon is because I hate melee DPS to begin with

[vital topaz]

Would you say that the Duty Timers acted as the timers that were in FF7 when you fight the weapons originally?

[visual spade]

Anogg is dead? Anogg is not dead? Where'd Konogg go exactly?

[obsidian pagoda]

The weekly quest might answer that

[winged hill]

Most likely yeah

[pine epoch]

It's a melee maiming dps to be specific

[vital topaz]

Anogg and Konogg sounds like brands of cereal a prehistoric caveman would get at a supermarket.

[solemn kiln]

Wasn’t there a post about how there was a dwarf character in the nier mobile game and people were theorizing it’s one of the twins?

[winged hill]

Seems that konogg left to find himself? Maybe?

[pine epoch]

Gotta wait a few more expacs before scouting gets a sibling job

[visual spade]

So speaking of names, this may be obvious but

2P = toupee. Fake hair -- a synthetic recreation of a real thing.

[indigo shale]

i imagine the weapons would be just called scythes, no reason not to , and if it does use real life conventions, scythes is the chosen tool of the grim reaper, who seems more neutral than evil or good, fitting as we are both a WoD and WoL

[winged hill]

Oh I get it lol.

[deft burrow]

Yeah

[cinder badger]

@visual spade I think 2P was more of a reference to 2 Player because she was originally used as a bonus character in some fighting game

[pine epoch]

Reaper of souls, caretaker of the end, farrier to the next life. What other terms can I make up

[vital topaz]

Why did we only get Goo Nael and not Goo Gaius or Goo Hydrus?

[pine epoch]

Goo nael was a accident

[visual spade]

These are the questions we need to be asking.

[pine epoch]

Phantom Gaius is the oversoul projecting a phantom

[vital topaz]

A very powerful accident, mind you.

[solemn kiln]

The game your thinking of is soul caliber and I can’t believe I haven’t realized that’s what 2P meant

[cinder badger]

Yeah for some reason they couldn't get the actual character 2B on the game

[vital topaz]

Im sad that the Saph weapon duty did not give us at least a Sapphire weapon voucher to get one Saph weapon of our choosing.

[rustic heath]

What's the song that plays for the False Idol? I can't seem to remember

[serene crest]

I thought that much was pretty neat. Adopting a fan name, 2P, into an official release.

[visual spade]

If they do a scythe, I'd think it'd be a double-bladed one.

A traditional scythe would be awfully similar to a DRG for a polearm fighting style

[solemn kiln]

I’d imagine it’s so the reveal of actual 2B being a more shocking moment

[cinder badger]

I don't know why it was never hard for them to get characters from other games before.
Like having spawn heihatchi and Link on SC2

[visual spade]

Oh it's that too, but the androids' names all have symbolism. 2B = to be A2 = e tu, and you

[cinder badger]

Or Darth Vader om like... SCIV?

[indigo shale]

could have it warframe style scythes

[solemn kiln]

Yeah I’m just saying I feel like the addition of 2P feels like an intentional fake out that we wouldn’t get actual characters from automata

[pine epoch]

I personally dont think so. Especially since Drg fights with a more... Uh... Whats the term im looking for. Well they have their own style. Its like say you have all these different swords in all technicality all these swords you could in theory wield the same way. Like is it efficient maybe not. But you could. Which Scythe would have its own style to set it apart. Which is why I keep posting that video of Ray parks

[rustic heath]

Figured it out nvrm

[pine epoch]

also a meme for us spoilery people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LrSPjLa9Vc

[vital topaz]

If we get dual bladed scythes, how are weebs gonna do their Marluxia cosplays?

[visual spade]

That is a nice scythe

[pine epoch]

thats not a dual bladed scythe.

[visual spade]

I do wanna do that

[winged hill]

KH raid when???

[visual spade]

no

[pine epoch]

A dual bladed scythe would be a Blade at the top and at the bottom

[solemn kiln]

If it’s a dual bladed scythe can we just call it a sharp pickaxe

[visual spade]

Unless I can fight Donald Duck as a raid boss

[pine epoch]

Also yes I would totes just make my character look like marluxia.

[vital topaz]

Did you read what I said?

[solemn kiln]

Ah

[vital topaz]

"If we get dual bladed scythes, how are weebs gonna do their Marluxia cosplays?"

[serene crest]

They didn’t have trouble with it though. Namco had the go for 2B for a while and they swapped her spot in Tekken for a spot in Soulcalibur. Here’s her reveal trailer. https://youtu.be/iG12BqJLdp4

[cinder badger]

What if the weapon has two ends

[pine epoch]

I skipped over How Are. Sorry Knight

[somber storm]

2B and Geralt in Soul Calibur

[serene crest]

2P was a name given to her alternate color set coined by fans.

[solemn kiln]

It’s ok tekken got the crazier crossover character

[visual spade]

I like how quick and efficient the new 24-man is. It feels like a raid speed-run.

[solemn kiln]

Still have no idea why negan is in that game

[visual spade]

It's a fun concept

[serene crest]

Anyway that’s for a different channel

[pine epoch]

Bare in mind, we could in theory have a video game multiverse. all connected by Geralt traveling dimensions. He traveled to Soul Calibur first because a witch wanted to learn about another world. and after returning from there he went to Monster Hunter to fight a Leshen. FF14 sent a behemoth to monster hunter. and we got a Rathalos.

[wind bough]

Psychopomp

[visual spade]

Geralt is the unifier of realities.

Fiction and reality are blending.

[vital topaz]

Did Gaius pick up Metal Guitar lessons in the time between ARR and ShB? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKswcDG9cA4&t=17s

[pine epoch]

The Rathalos also has traveled to Metal Gear universe.

[serene crest]

Gasp. Yda called us a psychopomp once. New job confirmed.

[cinder badger]

In the cut scene where he draws the weapon there's actually nothing there

[pine epoch]

Big Boss has gone hand to hand with a rathalos

[cinder badger]

He draws literally nothing in that cutscene so maybe the real weapon is telekinesis

[visual spade]

oh, an Earthbound crossover

[cinder badger]

Maybe he's a master of conjuration like on Skyrim

[pine epoch]

Hear me out Square Enix vs Capcom. Fighting Game

[visual spade]

I would love to see a Resident Evil X FF14 thing lmao

[cinder badger]

@pine epoch just play Smash

[visual spade]

Nemesis (Savage)

[pine epoch]

no go home @cinder badger actually wait. you probably are home.

[cinder badger]

Super Smash Brothers as basically just become video game all stars

They decided Nintendo was too small a roster

[solemn kiln]

Raccoon city alliance raid when?

[visual spade]

oh you joke but that'd be so fun lmao

[cinder badger]

Forget Raccoon City when do I get my Hyrule raid

[pine epoch]

Ya but Smash wont put Dante in it.

[clever dove]

@solemn kiln have it like that one dungeon where that giant Tonberry follows you 🤣

[visual spade]

If they do anything it should be involving Sin from FFX, let's be real

[pine epoch]

Smash needs Chris redfield, and Dante to be complete

[deft burrow]

Zenos kills you with his mind

[candid pewter]

the final boss in paradigm's tower was S++ loved it absolutely fantastic

[cinder badger]

@deft burrow he's a psychonaut

[late bronze]

@visual spade hope not like yojimbo

[visual spade]

The design is incredible, the music -- I feel like we didn't really do any good by killing it. But it had to be done.

[visual spade]

Aw, you didn't like the Yojimbo fight?

[clever dove]

I’ve not played Neir, I want to and I have it on PS4 I feel like I’m missing out on some hype with the neir raids and not playing the original game

[candid pewter]

i just love the fact that they managed to incorporate the black/white ring mechanic into it

[cinder badger]

You know seeing Zenos standing there in a room full of weapons littering the ground made me realize Greg is probably extremely jealous

[visual spade]

go play it then 😄

[candid pewter]

i've been waiting for that since the start of the crossover

[late bronze]

It's because of yoko taro if ffxiv had a raid like that. No any raid since 2.0 reach this

[candid pewter]

yeah they're remaking the original nier for modern systems

[visual spade]

The original Nier is outstanding

[cinder badger]

Wait what if the weapon he pulled out was actually the spear from 1.0 and the Hildebrand Quest

[visual spade]

With improved combat, even moreso. It's got a very emotional story.

Like, Automata? That's the happy, feel-good story.

[clever dove]

It’s definitely on my to play list for sure xD I might even stream it

[candid pewter]

original nier is among one of my favorite games of the past decade, even with the mediocre combat

[visual spade]

It had excellent bosses

[candid pewter]

glad they're improving it for the remake

[unreal rivet]

Did anyone put all the Byakko Glow up as an Album to look at? Thanks in advance

[visual spade]

The bosses were objectively great.

[late bronze]

I'm listening gestalt ost right now. Awesome

[visual spade]

https://youtu.be/P8XTbluLDyE

Nier's opening is just, like, woah

in 2009, from a Square-Enix game? It felt shocking and fucking fresh.

[cinder badger]

Zenos' new weapon is a kazoo

[late bronze]

Like dark souls ending theme

[spiral wagon]

link broke. takes me to main page

[candid pewter]

i kinda wish there were original nier outfits in the raid, but i understand it was supposed to be an automata raid series

[deft burrow]

Honestly whatever the new melee is I will switch aside from Hammer since DRG is getting a bit stale right now.

[candid pewter]

the striking chest looks nice

[visual spade]

I am sad it is not Papa Nier

We have to be Boy Nier. But Papa Nier is my Nier.

[candid pewter]

papa nier in our hearts forever

[visual spade]

[cinder badger]

@deft burrow it wouldn't be Hammer because they already gave Warrior a hammer weapon

[tidal mauve]

western family values

[deft burrow]

True tbh

Actually has hammers as a usable weapon

[wind bough]

I mean...they already gave DRK, WAR, DRG, WHM and BLM a scythe weapon.

[deft burrow]

Those are glams

[wind bough]

They already gave BLM a star globe weapon before AST came out.

[deft burrow]

Not actual scythe equipables

[wind bough]

And PLD had daggers before NIN came out.

[vital topaz]

So what IS Gaius now? We obv dont want to kill him anymore, and he's somewhat redeemed himself. Is he an ally like Estinian?

[late bronze]

@wind bough which one on blm

[wind bough]

BLM not BLU

Edda's Scythe from the Mogstation has a version for all five jobs I mentioned

[late bronze]

Yeah on that

[deft burrow]

He is redeemed in my eyes and yeah he is like what Estinien used to be, a freeLANCER HAHAHA

[tidal mauve]

scythes are lame and are only good at cutting grass

lawnmower job

[deft burrow]

INB4 highest dps class @tidal mauve

[late bronze]

Potd was released in hw, most jobs were already

[vital topaz]

Did they show the emperor's body when they killed him?

[cinder badger]

People just want their edgy class go stick with playing Kayn on League of Legends :D

[vital topaz]

I got my edgy class with DRK in HW so I am satisfied

[cinder badger]

@vital topaz I wish my grass was emo Like Dark Knight

[vital topaz]

I guess people want more excuses to say damn like its 2006 with Shadow The Hedgehog on Nintendo GameCube.

[cinder badger]

I heard once that Dark Knights were so emo that they don't know how to change a lightbulb so they just sit in the dark and they cry

[vital topaz]

I wonder if someone has made a 5G Towers joke with the towers yet

(apart from myself earlier)

[cinder badger]

Hey guess what Final Fantasy XI job used scythe

[heady shadow]

beastmaster

[clever dove]

How many DRGs does it take to change a lightbulb?
None they can’t reach it from the floor or they just jump out of the room

[vital topaz]

(18+)(NSFL)(3AM) FANDANIEL USES 5G TOWERS TO BRING COVID-19 TO EORZEA AND THE FINAL DAYS II: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO (EVERYONE DIES!?!)

[tidal mauve]

when are they gonna add joel, the only real dragoon into the game

[vital topaz]

Is that title clickbaity enough?

[tidal mauve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kXJgWQsiYU

[wind bough]

5G towers meme was everywhere when patch 5.4 dropped, you're too late

[vital topaz]

Damn, what's the current meme with 5.5? The valens pop?

[wind bough]

i guess

[somber storm]

when they add vinny and his meat

[balmy mesa]

once you pop you can't stop

[cinder badger]

@vital topaz I think the meme for 5.5 is the identity of Zenos weapon

Or it could be super saiyan Alisaie

[vital topaz]

@wind bough Did you expect them to hold off on the deaths until .55?

[rain onyx]

🎈 🪡

[misty yoke]

Garlean Water balloon

[somber storm]

https://tenor.com/view/tugce-tuğçe-gif-19478399

[winged hill]

For the final boss song in paradigm's breach, what language is she singing in?

[rain onyx]

it's basically gibberish

if it's anything like most tracks in nier automata

[vital topaz]

What would have happened if Valens lived and joined Fandaniel and Zenos?

[misty yoke]

Your best bet for finding out

Ask yoko taro himself

[indigo shale]

i dont think Zenos or fandaniel would allow that, probably just kill him on the spot if anything

[serene crest]

Also Sweatyman probably would have got himself tempered at best.

[winged hill]

K. BRB. Gonna fly to Japan

[misty yoke]

Pretty sure valens would just get chucked in the 5G tower

[vital topaz]

Ideally, I wanted to see what sick twisted fuckery Valens, Zenos and Fandaniel could have come up with

[dim sigil]

Nero made the mark II

[candid pewter]

heh

[misty yoke]

Wait i don’t remember that scene

[subtle pasture]

Oh it’s prob the Magitek facility in Terncliff, like when you can go out on the G-Warrior’s shoulder

Totally forgot to go down to the garage or whatever

[dim sigil]

Yes more dialouge here

[misty yoke]

Ah i see

[tulip geyser]

Zenos just chucks a whole ass sword at Fandaniel and he's just like "Oh neat."

[vital topaz]

Thats cause he wants to fucking die

[misty yoke]

Fandangos an ascian i dont think he cares much about a sword being flung at him

[dim sigil]

Fandan can prob game end zenos real quick

[tulip geyser]

Oh yeah deffo I just found it kinda amusing the weird dynamic

[misty yoke]

I doubt it. Zenos got his body back from elidibus by possessing some random elezen

[vital topaz]

Yeah, remember how Nabriales stopped Moenbryda's axe with just one finger like something outta DBZ?

[viral dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/537082239494914058/831793296414212106/SPOILER_Pizza.webm

[misty yoke]

Ngl it made laugh a little in the moen scene despite the intense situation

[somber storm]

pizza

[viral dew]

Pizza Emote is HQ

[somber storm]

collecting all the food emotes

[spice vessel]

Do you have something showing the pantomime emote as well?

[turbid minnow]

Where's that from?

[somber storm]

ishgard resto I would guess

upcoming

[turbid minnow]

Noice.

[heady shadow]

isnt it the DNA sequence thingy?

[rain onyx]

?

[candid pewter]

the spoken words in the songs are a fake language

[vital topaz]

Idk why but the way he said it made me die laughing, full version is in the pins for this channel:

[candid pewter]

the text used in nier is based on dna sequences

[misty yoke]

Also do we get an explanation as to what even happened in nier or do we gotta play Drakengard

[candid pewter]

nah you dont need to play drakengard

[heady shadow]

you only really need to watch ending e of drakngard

[vital topaz]

Just watch a Nier Lore video really

[candid pewter]

i tried playing drakengard 1

that was not a good time

[somber storm]

just read through summaries

[vital topaz]

Is Yen the only green mod here with a damn good sense of humor, or do other mods have good joke game?

[misty yoke]

God bless youtubers and compiling a 10 hour long video explaining the intricacies of a video games lore

[dim sigil]

Is it canon to Nier tho

[candid pewter]

i quit drakengard 3 halfway through because i got sick of the 7fps gameplay

[heady shadow]

well yeah

if ending e of draknengard didnt happen Nier wouldnt exist

Ending 3 is actually literally a Joke ending

*E

[candid pewter]

they are technically canon to nier but are so far removed from what goes on in them that it's not necessary knowledge

[misty yoke]

How big is the Drakengard/nier lore?

[somber storm]

Yes

[candid pewter]

it's a deep dive with a lot of unanswered questions

[misty yoke]

Ah...

[heady shadow]

lots of philosophical stuff too

[candid pewter]

the games are self-contained stories for the most part tho

the extra lore knowledge is neat but like i said, not necessary

[spice vessel]

What if the flesh tower things are living things that are incubating or something

[thick coral]

Okay so crazy theory idea: After the NieR quest there's a repeatable and in it, Konogg is going off to discover whatever or sow his wild rice or whatever, again. And in this adventure about the Seeds of Destruction/Yoko's "leavings" he finds out how to make Flight Units and Pods and THEN we get the mounts.

[candid pewter]

but we have flight units at home looks at gabriel beta mount

[somber storm]

nah, too easy. needs to be more complicated to get the flight units and pods

[candid pewter]

im down for a pod mount tho, flight unit i can take it or leave it since we got the gabriel mounts in bozja

[dim sigil]

Ya but we ride on top i hate it

[balmy mesa]

I like Gabriel alpha

hang on, just to clarify the weekly repeatable quest is one of 3, then a 4th?

[meager beacon]

wauw no phase 2 for diamond weapon. and no 2nd phase music...is kinda lame

[gloomy shale]

How would you rank the weapon primals difficulty now that they are all out?

[tulip geyser]

Probably all the fun stuff is in EX

[gloomy shale]

I'm talking the Ex

[meager beacon]

im checking out the EX version tonight. but atm, Emerald > ruby

[gloomy shale]

I've gotten about halfway through Diamond EX

[meager beacon]

ruby was hard but it was just positioning jankiness, with the spiral carpet bomb

[wind bough]

Weapon EXs were all kinda braindead easy tbh. Ruby's harder than Emerald but not by much

Emerald has basically no mechanics

[meager beacon]

i'd say the weapons are kinda tough for an EX fight. wouldnt say they're bonkers level difficult

[coarse pond]

Except of splitting the team to two groups there is nothing worth even slapping on a macro

Everything is RNG with simple adjust

So I agree diamond ex feels underwhelming for a last fight in the series

[gaunt star]

is the shadowcleaver set new?

[tropic frigate]

its feast top 100

yes but we knew of it

[meager beacon]

man that's sad to hear. i was hoping diamond ex would be a lil more spicy than emerald

[gaunt star]

huh, never saw it until someone brought it up in a shout chat.

I enjoyed diamond ex way more than emerald ex

[robust atlas]

So it’s true: FFXIV was just another Drakengard Sequel this whole time. Unbelievable

[faint dagger]

I expected to deadass fight Watchers at the end, but whatever they were was ok

[sharp sonnet]

Hey guys, is there an expert in Nier music?
Can anybody help me find the names of the songs that play on the last Nier bosses (Idol and Inflorescence)?

[tropic frigate]

last boss apparently has some queens beast bells with kaines salvation in it and of course the final fantasy theme

dont know the first part

[sharp sonnet]

I guess I'll have to get all the orchestrions then 😄
Thanks!

[tropic frigate]

its also specifically kaines salvation (final fantasy main theme version) for the last boss

dunno if bells are for phase transition alone or not but thats the final boss song which you can just search kain on the mb if you need

[placid sail]

first phase is called Possessed by Disease

[drowsy idol]

having 100%'d Nier Automata, I still had no idea what was going on for the majority of that raid

[placid sail]

there are two youtube channels who upload gameplay videos with the music, Mekkah Dee and dudewhereismyspoon, they don't upload the NieR/Drakengard songs that are directly ripped but they do have the new songs that were specially created for the crossovers

[wet crown]

But did you play Drakengard 1, Drakengard 3, Nier Gestalt and Nier Replicant?

[drowsy idol]

I, uh, watched the gf play the first hour of D3? Haha

[wet crown]

No? Well, doesn't matter.

A seed of destruction came to Norvrandt and created lots of copies of androids and machine lifeforms to destroy The First.

That's it.

Sure, you don't understand all the references. But you people don't have to act like the raid story needs a PhD in Drakennier lore to understand.

[drowsy idol]

🧐

[dim sigil]

Why are the 2b and 9s ones helping us tho

[placid sail]

from the various reactions I've seen it sounds like this was some kind of "missing link" in the drakennier lore

[wet crown]

I don't see how

[placid sail]

specifically the nature of the seeds of destruction, which 2B describes as a portal between worlds here?

[dim sigil]

It feels like theres some kinda deeper story going on that as one who hasnt played Nier makes no sense like this random red girl and the trains and sky scrappers

[wet crown]

the trains are as random as it gets, forget about them

[placid sail]

that city in the final fight is tokyo, or a recreation of it

[wet crown]

alternatively, it could be the city from drakengard 3 but ehhhh

the red girl...think of her as a manifestation of the machine hivemind

[dim sigil]

And i gues white drawf knows what this seed thing iz now cuz reasons

[wet crown]

which is oversimplified but...

[dim sigil]

And they're a clone or somthing

[fast harbor]

its basically cementing the connection between the red girls from automata and the queen-beast/watchers from drakengard

[placid sail]

white dwarf was created by the seed

[dim sigil]

Yeah but did they always know that

[fast harbor]

about the red girls? they have always been speculation but nvr concrete this is yoko slapping our face with the fact that they are connected

the thing that i find the most jarring is our relentionship with 2b/9s, seems like we're closer that we know, like there are missing pieces of the story

[wet crown]

yes and no

YoRHa units' core programming wants to make them serve their human masters. They crave affection.

[wheat skiff]

i want not asahi crushed just like valens

[wet crown]

Them feeling really close to humans is just what they are.

[wheat skiff]

pop like a soda

[dim sigil]

What it seems to boil down to overall is
●big white ball teleports to first
●Wants to end world cuz ?? Reasons
But it also feels like there's supposed to be a deeper narrative here as well

[fast harbor]

yeah i think out of the 3 questline, i like the weapon one the most mostly cost it has a proper ending. nier still have the weekly quest thing and msq needs to wait for .5

[wet crown]

oh, the seeds are really just toys from the gods to destroy everything

[fast harbor]

that last scene with the hologram so good

[wet crown]

literally

[dim sigil]

Story was meh for Nier but fights and music were great my fav alliance out of any so far

[fast harbor]

yeah, i wish there are more quest with 2b/9s for the .2/.4 patch were we go around get to know them better

[placid sail]

the ivalice raids had the same problem

messy story but the raids were incredible

[fast harbor]

but most of the intermission quest is regarding with dwarves sibling which is nice but kinda make 2b/9s sidelined

[dim sigil]

Ivalice made sense it was just boring

[fast harbor]

ur right same thing with the hw alliance one too

[inner halo]

"dO yOU trUly tHInK yoU cAn wIn?"

[placid sail]

the 24 man raids are more about spectacle I feel

[dim sigil]

As one who played a LOT of ff3 i have a fondness for CT

[wet crown]

you and everyone else who wants a fast raid roulette and cheats the system to always get lota and suck tower

[dim sigil]

Hey now dont lump me in with those

I like ct ff3 but i Hate allaince roulette

[tidal mauve]

what cheats the system

getting naked isn't cheating

[dim sigil]

I fear the day if they can do it also to make us stuck in Sastsha

[wind orbit]

which set is the brother nier set?

[fast harbor]

cries in fending

[lucid geode]

women don't need bulletproof vests apparently

[balmy mesa]

the maiming one's my favourite

[gaunt star]

I think that this nier story so bad it’s hilarious

[wet crown]

That's like. Your opinion.

[gaunt star]

That’s why I said I think

Lol

[inner kite]

I agree with you Suzume lol

[dim sigil]

Having a reason at least why nier stuff is on the first is nice

[gaunt star]

Well it is underdeveloped. Fights and rewards are fun though

[unreal wadi]

JP already

horny posting with the casting & healing top

[jade mauve]

I thought the Nier raid was great, fights and music were amazing. Cloud deck I got in a duty roulette at 12 last night, I was a bit tired at that point but it seemed fun.

I was a bit disappointed with the dungeon, I liked the bosses fine, but our occasional companion was a bit less powerful than I had expected

[misty yoke]

Well tbf diamond never oversouled so thats why we never got a second phase

[jade mauve]

Wasn’t it oversouled to begin with?

[unreal wadi]

overmind

didn't need to

because Alfonse was already consumed anyways

[jade mauve]

That was my thought

[unreal wadi]

technically

Allie was assisting

[jade mauve]

The actual fight was good, I liked jumping between the platforms. Being a healer made it more interesting for sure

[somber storm]

Overmind be different to Oversoul

[unreal wadi]

Cloud Deck ex isn't that hard

[jade mauve]

Ahhhh ok

[unreal wadi]

but every pug fucking sucks

[misty yoke]

You’re just temporarily overwriting the pilots mind

[tulip geyser]

Out of range~

[unreal wadi]

[misty yoke]

Instead of pulling a ruby weapon

[jade mauve]

Yeah, many hops between platform go red and then dash back before killed

Also that pop... I might go to an inn to see it again with a clear head

[tulip geyser]

You know what I didnt need? Player placed exaflare lol

[misty yoke]

Garlean water balloon

[red talon]

So, you're telling me that the Nier story continues as a weekly quest?

[jade mauve]

What is everyone’s thoughts on MSQ’s?? I feel quite lost as to what endwalker is going to be now we just casually defeat lunar Bahamut.

[gaunt star]

Yes

[jade mauve]

Yes, though do we need to do the raid weekly to get the quests?

[somber storm]

nah

[misty yoke]

I’m willing to bet this isnt the last of baha tbh.

[gaunt star]

Estinien is a good addition to a cast of overly cartoony characters and will hopefully make things more serious moving forward

[misty yoke]

I wouldnt say the main cast is all too cartoony

[red talon]

uhh, did you even see the scene where he meets Alisaie? It's going to be even more cartoonish from now on

[gaunt star]

Not all of them. But graha is just a meme at this point

[red talon]

If Alisaie doesn't strangle him first

[somber storm]

Estinien is now part of the Goof Troop

[jade mauve]

Alisaie has become one of my favourite of the goof troop

So more of her and Estonian picking at each other is a good thing

[wind orbit]

cartoonish characters

[red talon]

What did the node call her in 5.4 for suggesting that the password may be "Password"?

[misty yoke]

Maid or servant. Something like that

[tulip geyser]

Handmaiden I think

[balmy mesa]

Handmaiden

[tiny wind]

sorrow of werlyt was 10/10 jesus

[wet crown]

Not the trial itself.

[tiny wind]

wdym the trial was sick

[balmy mesa]

wat

[wet crown]

It was very tame compared to Ruby and Emerald

[balmy mesa]

hm, did Alisaie change her weapon? it's really glowy

[jade mauve]

I liked that (other than the time I run though the teleporter and fell off the side of the cloud deck) there were only 2 times you can be knocked off the platform

[misty yoke]

Start of SB

[gaunt star]

She didn’t have her glowy rapier through most of Shb is why it looks different

[jade mauve]

Unlike Ruby? Which was basically me falling off the edge of the platform

[dull atlas]

Diamond weapon done

It was quite nice

And as expected FULL GUNDAM PLOT

[tulip geyser]

Ive seen a lot of the Teleport no just kidding walk off

[dull atlas]

They even have the exaggerated attachments, a lá Gundam Seed

[misty yoke]

Well yoshi-p is a big gundam fan

[jade mauve]

If there is a ledge, I will walk off the edge of it at some point or other. The Chuck you in the air/kickback though made me want to vomit every time

[misty yoke]

Something tells me he liked eva too considering how ruby weapon went

[dull atlas]

Really, diamond weapon didn't need a oversoul, people whine too much.

[gaunt star]

No but it would have been nice

[dull atlas]

Nah

And you know it wouldn't make sense plot wise.

It would kill Allie.

[jade mauve]

Yeah, I am glad it didn’t

[gaunt star]

You say that like it’s a bad thing

[dull atlas]

Shush

[jade mauve]

From a plot perspective and also from a my poor tattered nerves couldn’t have coped last night

[dull atlas]

Ooooooh squish.

Valens paste.

[jade mauve]

Pop

One of my favourite moments in the game

[dull atlas]

Hmm this was the most violent death ingame so far.

[gaunt star]

The fact he was messing around on an iPad the whole time was hilarious

[dull atlas]

POP

[kindred rampart]

https://c.tenor.com/8cMl1Yijs_sAAAAM/b99-holt.gif

[dull atlas]

Ooooooh that was good. * liquid pours down

[kindred rampart]

Then pitched his corpse miles away

[dull atlas]

Which anime it reminds me of?

Brain powred?

[kindred rampart]

WAIT WAIT MY APP ISN'T UPDATED FOR THIS!

[dull atlas]

Ah. BOKURANO

[paper dagger]

Just finished that myself and that was my first thought. "Feelsbringer definitely continues, jesus". I just felt SORRY for one of our first primary antagonists... that's damned well done.

[dull atlas]

https://youtu.be/05p646nlYS0

That's the good thing about ff 14

The characters grow.

[topaz dune]

i may sound dumb but how to access zadnor?

[dull atlas]

AH FUCK. THE TEARS. I'M CRYING

[balmy mesa]

aww that's sweet

[dawn wave]

man arenvald was literally glowing with death flags

[balmy mesa]

Fordola, tho, as grumpy as ever

[gaunt star]

Zadnor isn’t in the game yet

[jade mauve]

I want fordola to join the Scooby gang

I like grumpy, you want me to do what characters

[dense hull]

i think she will from yoshi interviews

[gaunt star]

Same. I want her to sock alphinaud in the face and start dating Estinien. I feel like he’s the only one that could realistically put up with her

[jade mauve]

\o/ give me more people who call alphie and idiot

[dense hull]

https://youtu.be/5j1cvPJwzTo

[topaz dune]

thank you at least

[dense hull]

but DR does drop 31k mettel

[gaunt star]

That’s a lot

[dense hull]

considering how much it takes for you to reach 13 to 14 and 14 to 15 then cap i think its attiquite for casual players

[gaunt star]

I’m at rank 11 and have no plans to go in there again

[jade mauve]

Bojzan?

[gaunt star]

Not unless they attach glowy armor to it next patch or something

[balmy mesa]

oh my god

[jade mauve]

I thibk I got to 7 in one session and vowed never to go back

[jade mauve]

Loved that bit... it’s exactly how I would have reacted

[dense hull]

will ishgaurd be fully restored for those who passed the HW msq in 6.0

[gaunt star]

Possibly

[jade mauve]

Oh oh

I just remembered my favourite line in the entire patch 🙂

Estonian on getting a tea ‘she whisk charge for the tea bag and the water’

[wary perch]

That Alphonsus sad puppy face when krile asking estinien to join Scion lol

@jade mauve in debt for a few leaves and hot water lol

[jade mauve]

That was it 🙂

Showing Tataru’s true colours

[dull atlas]

God the puppy eyes.

[paper dagger]

They really did some good, subtle work with facial expressions this patch

[somber storm]

Estinien pout

[carmine basin]

Estinien giving Alisinaud a head pat

[cosmic herald]

Damielliot cameo

[balmy mesa]

I swear they've given this corner of Azys Lla a spruce-up

[gaunt star]

Fun fact you can actually make estinien look alikes in cc

[balmy mesa]

[tulip geyser]

The most fearsome of secretaries, the Scions keep

[rough kestrel]

I like that Estinien has a phobia of Tataru

[dull atlas]

Goddamn it, why am I crying AGAIN.

The ending of the Wertly quests

[misty yoke]

Hey now let floodgates open

[balmy mesa]

I swear, these nodes must run on Windows

[dull atlas]

Father.

[tulip geyser]

The Allagans invented Eorzean Windows, lol

Truly their evil knew no bounds

[balmy mesa]

lol, tech support node

[dull atlas]

"your system update will take...... 5 years 3 months."

[tulip geyser]

https://gfycat.com/snoopygrossbug-ffxiv

[dull atlas]

Wtf

[misty yoke]

Allagan steve jobs is a possibility

That gif is pain

[dull atlas]

You were bamboozled there

[wary perch]

The 9s and 2b stuff toyed housing item is from the tower?

[tulip geyser]

Not mine, but MY alliance had a building fall on us and kill us

Good stuff

[dull atlas]

But that's usual

Her florescence

Paradigm is a raid of "FUCKING LOOK AROUND, YOU TUNNEL VISION TWAT"

[misty yoke]

Her fluorescence really likes ya cut

[somber storm]

I remember that happening

[dull atlas]

God I can't imagine what pain whorleater unreal must be

Considering people have trouble doing NORMAL

[misty yoke]

It cant be that bad

I mean titan is a thing...

[dull atlas]

Any trial with displacement will cleanse twats

[jade mauve]

Oh the pain

[balmy mesa]

someone pointed out that the building that kills us in Nier if we stand in its way is apparently the SQE building
https://twitter.com/ananke_eau/status/1382146437522157569?s=21

Ananke Jupiter (あなんけ@Ridill) (@ananke_eau)

昨日行った希望ノ砲台で撮った動画チェックしてたら、真下から吹っ飛んでくるビルの右上に「SQE」の文字を発見。スクエニの社屋ってことかしら。
#FF14
#希望ノ砲台

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[jade mauve]

🤣🤣I

[misty yoke]

Square really lashing out on us

[dull atlas]

She reminds me of the bravely default summons too

[rough kestrel]

This was my first Nier run experience (We didnt wipe by the way, everyone eventually got revived)

[dull atlas]

https://youtu.be/bpLTf_N14mU

[somber storm]

We nearly wiped twice in my run but thank healer lb3

[dull atlas]

Promethean

[misty yoke]

Not wiping on day one nier must take some patience

[rough kestrel]

I still have alot of questions about the Nier stuff

[misty yoke]

You arent alone

[jade mauve]

Alliance C just single handedly kept our raid on track, we wiped once

[rough kestrel]

I get the sense the answers are in the game, but not infront of the player

[dull atlas]

My alliance kept dying -. -

And me the sole survivor wondering how the fuck they die to easy mechanics.

[rough kestrel]

I mean

[balmy mesa]

healer lb3 definitely helped a lot

[misty yoke]

Well i mean it is day one

[rough kestrel]

Its Day 1, thats how they die.

[dull atlas]

I don't mean die once to double meteor

[misty yoke]

Gotta let the people ease in

[rough kestrel]

Some might wonder how the fuck you lack so much perspective.

[dull atlas]

Just m.. Repeated. Dying. Standing on freaking aoes.

[balmy mesa]

they just rammed it in dry lol

[dull atlas]

Some ppl shut off their brains on raids.

True unga bunga

[rough kestrel]

Diamond EX is fun, more fun than Emerald

[dull atlas]

How it changes?

I assume more displacement

[rough kestrel]

3 Swords ruined the entire emerald experience to me because I just couldn't escape being snapshotted way before they went off

[balmy mesa]

it was fun figuring out the mechanics on the raid - but ugh, jebaited so much LOL

everyone was like (in mine) "let's hide in the inside cube area"
then meteor is cast
"ah fuck"

[dull atlas]

The double meteor is the pain.

Cause your cover dissaperas If you don't notice.

9999999 damage

[faint dagger]

i feel like i'm high. I can't hear the FF theme in the Kainé: Salvation arrangement

[balmy mesa]

some really spectacular cinematography in some scenes I think

[dawn wave]

their cutscenes have come such a long way

[obsidian pagoda]

I love how to untemper a great wyrm you use a cute little flying piglet

[lime estuary]

Lowkey I think there's some seeds being planted for a Meracydia expansion in the future

[balmy mesa]

oh no doubt about that

[lime estuary]

I assume thats where Tiamat will go

[balmy mesa]

just quietly retire down south (though I dunno what state it is in nowadays)

[misty yoke]

6.2 meracydia patch when?

[balmy mesa]

could be like Florida

[lime estuary]

Im thinking more like 7.0 expansion after Endwalker, or 8.0

[wet crown]

7.0 earliest

and no sooner than that, as an expansion

[jade mauve]

I think it will be more about silver tear lake and the revival of midgardsomer

[lime estuary]

It'll most certainly be a while off, and almost definitely be part of a new expansion

[obsidian pagoda]

New continents will be 7.0 onwards for sure, but we might get more characters from wherever in the setup patches

[misty yoke]

Well i mean meracydia seems to be like the sources florida

[balmy mesa]

hmmm, to run Paglth'an with a trust, or with people

[misty yoke]

People

[balmy mesa]

wow, 80/50 tomes

[misty yoke]

Paglth’an with trusts gets old fast unless its a first time run

[jade mauve]

People

[balmy mesa]

this would be my first time, yeah

[jade mauve]

I did it with trust and it was fairly benign

[obsidian pagoda]

I like doing a first run with Trust, make sure you pick lore relevant chars

[jade mauve]

But slow

[balmy mesa]

yea

[misty yoke]

What are the lore relevant chars then?

[wet crown]

you run new dungeons with trusts first to get lore

[obsidian pagoda]

I haven't quite got there yet 😦

[wet crown]

Y'shtola and Thancred have nothing relevant to say. So I guess the twins for sure

[balmy mesa]

feck it, trusts it is

[obsidian pagoda]

Estinien available? if so, him

[balmy mesa]

nope

[misty yoke]

Sadly no

But he does show up as a green nametag

[balmy mesa]

You get:

• the twins
• Y'shtola
• G'raha Tia
• Thancred
• Urianger

[obsidian pagoda]

Twins and Raha

[misty yoke]

I’m guessing twins and graha then?

[wet crown]

best guess

[jade mauve]

I went y’shtola, thancrad and Ailisie

[balmy mesa]

I went Thancred, G'raha and Alisaie
cos y'know, I have healer

[jade mauve]

Y’shtola’s class is sorcerer, does anyone know why?

[obsidian pagoda]

NPC class isn't always 1:1 with player class

[wet crown]

because she doesn't have a soul crystal

[somber storm]

she knows conjury and thaumatagy

[wet crown]

she is a conjurer but also learned to use black magic

[obsidian pagoda]

goddamn everytime Arenvald is mentioned the death flags increase exponentially

[jade mauve]

Ahhh fair enough

[faint dagger]

trade offer:
you receive:
everyone's favourite catboy
probably estinien later idk
i receive:
ryne and thancred that can't use cartridge moves anymore

[obsidian pagoda]

Pa-paya, paya paya pa-paya

[wet crown]

I hate that song

[rare sinew]

Are people really struggling with Nier's last boss?

[wet crown]

they struggling to understand the story

[half phoenix]

Okay can someone explain the lore of Paradigm Tower? And no, not the new Nier Quests, the raid itself.

[wet crown]

see?

[rare sinew]

The story is a confusing clusterfuck tbh. Well.. feels like it

[wet crown]

a seed of destruction came to norvrandt, made tons of copies of androids and machines to destroy the first

[wary perch]

https://twitter.com/BuccoRoth/status/1382252453370892288?s=09

Toshio Murouchi (@BuccoRoth)

何色にィ……してやろうかァァ……( ✧Д✧)

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Twitter · Apr 14, 2021, 8:40 AM

[rare sinew]

Does it relate to Nier Automota?

[half phoenix]

Like what’s the signficance of the Red Girl?

[wet crown]

it does but not only

[wet crown]

Think of her as a personification of the machine hivemind. But that's oversimplified.

[half phoenix]

So not some character from Drakengard?

[rare sinew]

How many games do I gotta play to understand

[half phoenix]

At least 3

[rare sinew]

Are both twins robots or JUST the one we didnt pick

[wet crown]

Tbh, I'm very unsure about this. But I think the girl is someone from before Nier Gestalt/Replicant even begin...?

[placid sail]

just wait for Clemps to make a video on it

[half phoenix]

Drakengard to Nier, Nier to Automata

[rare sinew]

Cause the dig site chief said he found BOTH of them in the tunnels

[half phoenix]

We didn’t pick

[wet crown]

Drakengard 3 -> Drakengard 1 -> NieR Replicant / NieR Gestalt -> NieR Automata

[rare sinew]

We chose to side with one?

[gaunt star]

It doesnt have any relevance

[rare sinew]

Fuck me then the fuck was that message about it affecting story

[half phoenix]

That choice doesn’t effect the quests outside of that one

[rare sinew]

God damn it. I sided with the Black dwarf Anogg???

So when all that shit was happening...

I thought, wow that really affects things

[wispy bolt]

So based off the MSQ we r either gonna go explore Tiamats home continent of Meracydia OR we r following Krile to Sharlayan.

[half phoenix]

Doesn’t matter