Whatever it is the game calls for, usually combining arms and magic.
#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
maiden lodge
severe brook
they have some magic but are built more around martial combat
serene crest
The director's last name is Temple
gaunt star
I see
severe brook
personally i do now think Reaper is more likely than Templar
going by the second shirt
maiden lodge
Like when people say 'Spellblade' Temple Knight's been a way to actualize that in game
As for 'Reaper'
severe brook
though it also could be named Templar but still have grim reaper imagery
gaunt star
Did anyone figure out why yoshiP mentioned sorcerer when announcing the classes or is that just japanese word sounding english
maiden lodge
not a final fantasy job
severe brook
they've expressed interest in a job original to XIV in the past
maiden lodge
doesn't exist in the canon, kinda hard to say it's a job reference to a job that doesn't exist
maiden lodge
they've expressed interest in a job original to XIV in the past
Still doesn't change that it's people making up a name and calling it a job an then saying 'this is it this is the job'
severe brook
arguably it'd be referencing XI's Dark Knight as well
static furnace
Did anyone figure out why yoshiP mentioned sorcerer when announcing the classes ...
Which part was this? Do you have a time stamp
severe brook
in terms of wielding dark magic and a scythe
maiden lodge
Which part was this? Do you have a time stamp
He didn't.
severe brook
so it'd have some basis in terms of ability
maiden lodge
People heard english that's not there.
severe brook
it's just that the name Dark Knight has already been used for something else
gaunt star
Fair enough
unique verge
If, god forbid, it is "Reaper" (i strongly oppose this theory)
static furnace
Ah. It’s like when I hear random Japanese words while listening to English
unique verge
Who cant wait for the fucking weebs and shitters to make macros
that yell "DIE DIE DIE" when they LB
woven escarp
I think reaper is bad mainly because how the fuck do you make it a three letter shorthand
severe brook
glorious return of the Seven Kill Stele
gaunt star
God i saw a macro the other day that was so fucking pointless
woven escarp
rpr is primed for some... balmung jookes
gaunt star
If it's reaper I'm gonna flex on ppl with my sice glam
maiden lodge
Who cant wait for the fucking weebs and shitters to make macros
'Samurai should be reworked because Doom of the Living is obviously a Reaper action'
gaunt star
RPR
REA
severe brook
A popular account of his life has it that he erected in Chengdu a stele, which came to be known as the Seven Kill Stele (七殺碑), with the following inscription:[25][26][27]
天生萬物以養人
人無一善以報天
殺殺殺殺殺殺殺
Heaven brings forth innumerable things to nurture man.
Man has nothing good with which to recompense Heaven.
Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill.
gaunt star
REP
heady shadow
I wore a Templar armor set once.
gaunt star
Any other acronym is either sus as fuck or stupid
heady shadow
have no idea how it would fit into dps
gaunt star
GNB should've been GUN
cinder badger
Templars were in service to royalty they were in service to the church this is why they were the elite fighting force during the holy Crusade
heady shadow
its fucking weird to wear lol
cinder badger
They were also known as poor fellow Soldiers of Christ
maiden lodge
Templars were in service to royalty they were in service to the church this is w...
Contrast with palace knights--paladins.
gaunt star
Gunner would be GNR probably
static furnace
Since Sage is Nu Gundam, “Reaper” might as well be Zeta Gundam (powering up via souls of the dead)
severe brook
paladins aren't called that because of the word palace knight
maiden lodge
paladins aren't called that because of the word palace knight
Yes, they actually are.
severe brook
they're called that because of the Palatine Hill in Rome
cinder badger
@maiden lodge I meant they weren't in service to royalty
severe brook
wait
gaunt star
souls of the dead
Ima have to stop you there
heady shadow
severe brook
well okay but the "Knight" part isn't from the name
they're called that because HRE is trying to be RE2
static furnace
Not 6.0 stuff but is there actually a reason why Knights are called Paladins in English FF14?
unique verge
Also it comes from French
Wait, so PLD's are confirmed French? No wonder they're the shitty tank with the shitty story.
gritty pawn
sounds cooler
maiden lodge
they're called that because HRE is trying to be RE2
HRE wasn't where the paladin comes from. Carolingian Empire is.
cinder badger
I believe the Roman Empire fell long before the organization of the Knights Templar
maiden lodge
Eventually, but Carolingian royal knights are the first use of 'Paladin'
maiden lodge
Whoever borrows it after that is some german tart's good time
gaunt star
If templar is the new job then we'll have even more deus vult memes and I'm all for that
unborn lantern
I will give you a spoiler
cinder badger
It's funny cuz I just played Assassin's Creed Valhalla so some of the historical events occurred during the course of the story
severe brook
:gasp:
unborn lantern
maiden lodge
If templar is the new job then we'll have even more deus vult memes and I'm all ...
No deus vult into you clean europe of Karlings my dude
cinder badger
Like meeting King Alfred and learning that he's the reason the Templar order exist
severe brook
Fandaniel won't be the final boss because he'll never die 🦀
maiden lodge
Fandaniel won't be the final boss because he'll never die 🦀
'I won't die my back story is complicated'
severe brook
i mean gaia's still kicking around
ivory wolf
I'm so glad Fandaniel has a punchable face.
balmy mesa
note: the origins of paladins are not holy or religious
unborn lantern
she's not an ascian anymore
gaunt star
Zenos gets gets betrayed by FannyDanny much like Madara did by Black Zetsu
worn forge
Fandaniel such a bitch he needs a Great Value bahamut copy to fight us
maiden lodge
to every ascian
They get shipped, porn made of, and eventually, come back as cookie-gorging goth girls
worn forge
gaunt star
I mean she is
severe brook
the is basically /s for me
floral aurora
Wonder why we were wearing ascian gear on the moon
unborn lantern
i wanna kill her but we're the good guys
gaunt star
She only gets awoken in savage
balmy mesa
paladin = "of the palace" in old french
severe brook
half is probably a good proportion
maiden lodge
Fandaniel such a bitch he needs a Great Value bahamut copy to fight us
Lunar Bahamut has visual references to Anime, fucking hate I didn't notice until the announement stream
worn forge
Wonder why we were wearing ascian gear on the moon
looks like something happens that we don’t see in the partial trailer
gaunt star
... anime???
gaunt star
Wonder why we were wearing ascian gear on the moon
Was it even Ascian gear? All it was was a robe and underneath it was PLD gear
severe brook
she has small amounts of her ascian abilities but was not completely overwritten by loghrif's memories
worn forge
ANIME
worn forge
it’s a robe used alongnside extreme lightning from the sun
gaunt star
Ascian gear are robes
- We're on the moon
worn forge
to create symbolism
floral aurora
It looked ascian but it could be just caster gear
maiden lodge
Fandaniel: "YOU CAN'T DEFEAT ME I HAVE THE POWER OF ZODIARK AND ANIME ON MY SIDE! HYAAAAA!"
severe brook
Wonder why we were wearing ascian gear on the moon
i think it's less that we are literally wearing ascian gear and more that the PLD robe is meant to resemble them
though honestly
it resembles an Ancient robe more than an Ascian one
maiden lodge
i think it's less that we are literally wearing ascian gear and more that the PL...
He's wearing the robe over the paladin gear
gaunt star
The pld gear is armor
We're on the moon to kill/stop Zodiark why else are we there?
What kawaaian said
severe brook
it's the cloak over the armor
maiden lodge
And yeah, i's a ref to Azem
gaunt star
Huh
cinder badger
I would like a very pissed-off melee DPS
unborn lantern
Fandaniel is nothing powerful. We've fought the usundered ones
gaunt star
Why would a pld wear a cloak
static furnace
It might just be a nice cloak Tataru made for us
floral aurora
Just hope that's not endgame gear, because i want it right away xD
gaunt star
I think it'll be the reward from the final shb quest
severe brook
but it being worn over the suit makes us resemble the Ancients more than the Ascians
because we're remembering who they were without falling into what they became
worn forge
the difference with DamnDaniel is that he doesn’t care about rejoinings or schemings
balmy mesa
Why would a pld wear a cloak
no capes
worn forge
he wants death
gaunt star
Why would a pld wear a cloak
It's just for the trailer shot, much like why WAR had a whole garb for the HW trailer
static furnace
I hope Tataru gives us something nice and warm when going to the moon
maiden lodge
gaunt star
But why would you need it on the moon
cinder badger
Somebody who just doesn't give a shitt and says "come at me bro, I will tear your eyes out and feed them to my raven"
maiden lodge
maiden lodge
Now interestingly, FFXIVAnima's headfronds are DIFFERENT than FFX's
They resemble the floofs on LB's wings more
heady shadow
.......
maiden lodge
Right
static furnace
Does FF14 Anima have the “necklace” of FF10 Anima?
severe brook
i think i recall Pash pointing out the manacles have a different design as well
gaunt star
Did they post anything about the trial series?
severe brook
no sign of the icon necklace either
maiden lodge
I'm not looking at differences though, but how similar it is to LB, how there's common visual elements
gaunt star
Or just raids and alliance faids
worn forge
no details on the trial series yet
floral aurora
but it being worn over the suit makes us resemble the Ancients more than the Asc...
They said 6.0 will answer my calamity question. I truly hope its some evil ancient or some enemy of the Ancients
gaunt star
I c
unborn lantern
severe brook
nothing about the trial series, my guess is Four Archfiends
unborn lantern
he's all the way down there
gaunt star
So anima is msq boss?
unborn lantern
he sucks
maiden lodge
So anima is msq boss?
Practically hard confirmed ANima's one of the midtrials
severe brook
Anima will be an MSQ trial, yeah
gaunt star
Interesting
worn forge
true Yana, but whens the last time an Ascian wanted wonton destruction without syncing it up with another shard?
cinder badger
@severe brook keep him down there where he belongs the little shit
floral aurora
So anima is msq boss?
I hope Anima is Zodiark's true form xD
odd yoke
He's probably the 87 trial
maiden lodge
Fandaniel's different. His threat is not his power level.
worn forge
Fandaniel is basically a dog without a leash
severe brook
Anima is Fandaniel's true form
gaunt star
He's probably the 87 trial
Then we get no Anima weapons ;w;
odd yoke
I could see us going over to Thavnir first rhen heading to Garlemald after where Anima could be
heady shadow
Anima will be the 83 trial
maiden lodge
Then we get no Anima weapons ;w;
That's not true, necessarily.
cinder badger
@severe brook so is true name is anima?
floral aurora
Then we get no Anima weapons ;w;
But we might get Anima Summon xD
gaunt star
My knowledge of other ff games is a bit of ff4 currently
worn forge
anyone know what Fandaniel’s true name is? like how Emet’s was Hades?
severe brook
...you know, before the 6.0 reveal i did compare Fandaniel to Seymour in terms of wanting everything dead
no sign of Fandaniel's true name
i wouldn't be surprised if it got revealed for us sometime
but we don't know now
maiden lodge
GUy shows up for five minutes to introduce himself and you think we had time to card him and run a background check
viscid monolith
Slightly different reasons Blitz but you are right
gaunt star
Anima will probably be the 83 trial boss
static furnace
I’d just imagine his real name is Daniel and his real form is also that of a Daniel
heady shadow
83*
severe brook
he could've had the decency to drop a Field Record at least
unborn lantern
Fandaniel is nothing he could had fought us
but he have this bahamut thing instead
gaunt star
He wants to die thats all that's important
maiden lodge
Fandaniel is nothing he could had fought us
His goal is not to fight us.
gaunt star
And he got a sick new flavour of bahamut
maiden lodge
His goal is to destroy the world.
unborn lantern
Then get him off here chief
heady shadow
Anima is going to be a Terimnus beast
mark my words
unborn lantern
We want bloodshed
severe brook
the only true names we know are
Emet-Selch — Hades
Mitron — Artemis
Loghrif — Gaia
— Venat
— Hythlodaeus
And I guess the founding Convocation members each had the seats' names as their actual names, countless aeons ago.
viscid monolith
Now that I think about it Seymour is a bit like Exdeath
maiden lodge
BUt killing him may not actually save the world.
unborn lantern
I don't want to save the world
severe brook
y not tho
maiden lodge
Also, you know, ascians and their illusions, you gotta catch the fucker first
gaunt star
What if fandaniel ends up being the ranjit of end
worn forge
nah fuck that
severe brook
yeah i think fandaniel's well aware he's not going to stand any chance in a fight
gaunt star
severe brook
so he's going to play it 'smart'
viscid monolith
Nah. Fandaniel is weak
worn forge
we’re done making sympathetic villains at the final hour
if they try to sob story us on Fandaniel
unborn lantern
zenos and fandaniel needs to know the WoL is more twisted than them
worn forge
they can fuck off tbh
maiden lodge
we’re done making sympathetic villains at the final hour
"are you sure about that"
gaunt star
Damn we were suppoised to be sympathetic for ranjit?
I only felt sad after killing him in 11
maiden lodge
Damn we were suppoised to be sympathetic for ranjit?
yeah, Ran'jit is sympathetic
viscid monolith
Ranjit is very sympathetic
balmy mesa
daddy ranjit
cinder badger
All these things we're all just guessing.... we won't know until they reveal to us the truth
static furnace
All these things we're all just guessing.... we won't know until they reveal to ...
Indeed
maiden lodge
'I'm tired of grooming girls to get killed by angel zombies so I give up, this all seems futile' is pretty darn sympathetic.
balmy mesa
he genuinely thought he was doing the best for his state and adopted daughter
unborn lantern
Ranjit is a hybrid between scythe class & monk class
gaunt star
Im aware of the reasoning it just didnt come off as sad
viscid monolith
He's not evil by any stretch. Dude is literally a tired war veteran who just wants to not see anymore od his surrogate daughters die to abominations anymore.
unborn lantern
plus Dragoon
heady shadow
Ranjit is what Thancred could have been
maiden lodge
Im aware of the reasoning it just didnt come off as sad
Sympathetic doesn't imply sad.
cinder badger
gaunt star
Ngl fighting him so many times made him come off as annoying
unique verge
Ehhh, idk
static furnace
Heck I won’t be surprised if Anima, for some reason, turns out to be the rocket we ride to the Moon
gaunt star
Sympathetic doesn't imply sad.
Emotional then
gritty pawn
Empathetic then?
unborn lantern
We gonna ride that allagan spaceship
unique verge
I cant feel any sympathy for someone who served Vauthry at that level who had to have known the secrets of Eulmore
floral aurora
And wonder how will Zenos play into this. They said end of Zodiark arc but not Zenos...
severe brook
i saw a guess of Anima being a Terminus recreation of Yotsuyu and honestly i like the idea
unborn lantern
or we gonna ride Omega, or Alexander things
gaunt star
We already played the omega + alexander card
viscid monolith
I thought the brief fight with Ranjit in Raktika was pretty hype
unborn lantern
Or since we're an ancient we can teleport to the moon like ascians do
unique verge
Like there's zero way Ranjit didnt know about the whole, you know, converting people into meol
floral aurora
And I want Midgarsormr back if this is the end of Hydaelyn
unborn lantern
maiden lodge
Emotional then
No, a sympathetic motivation is one where their motivations can be identified with, even if not agreed with. We don't agree with Ran'jit, and he's a controlling dick. But we see how he got there, and sympathize with him.
static furnace
I just want to ride Anima rocket to the moon
viscid monolith
Like there's zero way Ranjit didnt know about the whole, you know, converting pe...
He accepted it if it meant not having to fight with Sin Eaters anymore
severe brook
i think midgardsormr's probably waking up, tiamat getting out of her prison too
maiden lodge
Is it so hard to believe after a century of doing that, you wouldn't give up too?
severe brook
they're likely to continue those threads
gaunt star
I feel like FannyDanny has hardly any fighting power at all, so that's why he uses Lunar Bahamut to do his work for him
gaunt star
No, a sympathetic motivation is one where their motivations can be identified wi...
When i feel sympathy i get emotional and/or sad
viscid monolith
We don't even know if Ranjit "liked" Vauthry.
gaunt star
Unless its like "damn bitch me too"
maiden lodge
When i feel sympathy i get emotional and/or sad
That's not what sympathy necessarily means
gaunt star
I guess thats empathy...
unborn lantern
I still wanted to be a sin eater
floral aurora
i think midgardsormr's probably waking up, tiamat getting out of her prison too
I miss Midgarsormr and his theme everytime he was around
unborn lantern
imagine how powerful
gaunt star
I know its not what it necessarily means
unborn lantern
we would become
gaunt star
Its just how i experience/acknowledge it
maiden lodge
Ran'jit was 'damn, mood, man'
worn forge
Tiamat is forever there until she forgives herself for aiding in the summoning of Bahamut after his demise by the hands of the Allagans
gaunt star
Tiamat was sad too
gaunt star
I miss Midgarsormr and his theme everytime he was around
You can hear his theme on every mount ever now
viscid monolith
Ranjit might have simply put up with Vauthry
gaunt star
viscid monolith
As long as he kept the sin eaters under control
static furnace
I did want the game to explore Ranjit more rather than do the “oh btw he really is dead” thing
viscid monolith
No
maiden lodge
I miss Midgarsormr and his theme everytime he was around
I don't, and it can stay gone
unborn lantern
Ran'jit isn't a sineater
floral aurora
You can hear his theme on *every* mount ever now
Lmao messed up we can ride him when he's technically not around
unborn lantern
sin eaters are mindless
viscid monolith
Ranjit was just a dude
gaunt star
So he's just a guy
static furnace
He’s just a really strong dude
worn forge
nah Ranjit was just a practitioner of Bukumatz or whatever its called
severe brook
Tiamat is forever there until she forgives herself for aiding in the summoning o...
Lunar Bahamut shows that her self-imposed exile isn't going to keep her brother's wraith from coming back again. So i wouldn't be surprised if that motivates her to break loose.
gaunt star
Fuckin dope
worn forge
his father owned the danger noodle A rank in Kholusia iirc
severe brook
Gukumatz was the Familiar, not the method
gaunt star
Oh
maiden lodge
nah Ranjit was just a practitioner of Bukumatz or whatever its called
Gokumatz is the snek.
severe brook
and yeah Huracan was his father's
worn forge
oooooh
gaunt star
Ohh
Ran'jit was just an incredibly skilled and powerful fighter with years of training and experience under his belt
gaunt star
Yo fck that dude
cinder badger
Honestly I hope every last one of us is wrong about the new job and they give us something completely different, just so someone can make a "Last Surprise" video about it...
gaunt star
I'd beat him up again if i could
maiden lodge
a sin eater
It looks like a sin eater because it was made by a sin eater.
unborn lantern
u wanna fite
gaunt star
But i dont wanna replay the story a third time
severe brook
i mean i don't think anyone predicted Gundam Sage
viscid monolith
Ranjit learned how to create his familiar from dad
severe brook
so
gaunt star
True
severe brook
they're off to a good start
gritty pawn
new job is gonna be a scythe job, but it's upside down and used as a magical pogo stick to jump on the enemies like dragoon
gaunt star
Ranjit learned how to create his familiar from dad
Ah so he's an arcanist 
maiden lodge
Ran'jit is strong and strong people exist in the world.
viscid monolith
Ranjit's dad was the general of Eulmore's army before him
severe brook
new job is gonna be a scythe job, but it's upside down and used as a magical pog...
i guess the Moon is a fitting location then
maiden lodge
Ranjit's dad was the general of Eulmore's army before him
And Ronny G was general for a LONG ass time
cinder badger
Ranjit had a dad?
viscid monolith
Well ya Gukumatz is a lot like an Egi
severe brook
maiden lodge
Ranjit had a dad?
Nope he just appeared one day, ripping reality apart with his bear hands before demanding a job.
Yeah of course he has a dad.
gaunt star
balmy mesa
as an aside (sorry about this), I'm curious about DPS spell progression for healers for 6.0 and what they'd look like:
Scholar:
- ruin -> broil (54) -> broil II (64) -> broil III (74) -> guessing broil IV
- bio -> bio II (26) -> biolysis (72) -> ?? (would we get an AoE upgrade?)
- art of war -> ?? (would it be upgraded?)
White Mage:
- stone -> stone II (18) -> stone III (54) -> stone IV (64) -> glare (72) -> glare II?
- aero -> aero II (46) -> dia (72) -> ??
- holy -> ??
Astrologian:
- malefic -> malefic II (54) -> malefic III (64) -> malefic IV (72) -> maybe something new for AST, can't see them doing malefic V
- combust -> combust II (46) -> combust III (72) -> ??
- gravity -> ??
Sage:
- ?? any ideas?
@maiden lodge I like the first story better
viscid monolith
His dad died fighting Sin Eaters
unborn lantern
wtf is this
cinder badger
Make some sound more credible as a villain
cinder badger
Honestly that first thing you said does make a lot more sense for him
balmy mesa
and how would glare work? a bigger eye laser?
gaunt star
Also aoe upgrade... We'd lose potency if that was the case
Tbh, a tales from the shadows thing with Ran'jit would've been nice
viscid monolith
We need a better pun thaan Broil
gaunt star
Tbh, a tales from the shadows thing with Ran'jit would've been nice
It really would've
unborn lantern
wrong one
cinder badger
Ranjit was like General Tao only a hundred times more badass and less of a puss
heady shadow
fun fact: rank A hunt is Ranjits dads dragon
gritty pawn
fun fact: rank A hunt is Ranjits dads dragon
you're about 10 minutes late on that fun sir
balmy mesa
where did the whole "pteroslaver" thing come about anyway?
severe brook
he fights something like a monk until he doesn't
heady shadow
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
viscid monolith
Pteroslaver?
severe brook
synchro-what?
unborn lantern
heady shadow
He uses Kenpo i think
severe brook
see honestly i think us trying to compare Ran'Jit's Familiar Magic to a Player Job is a fool's errand
cinder badger
maiden lodge
as an aside (sorry about this), I'm curious about DPS spell progression for heal...
Okay so in Japanese:
Stone-Stonra-Stonega-Stoneja-/-Glare
Malefic-Malera-Malega-Maleja
Argue Heatedly Technique-Argue with Demonic Fire Technique-Argue them to fucking Hell Technique
They can't go past 'ja so your Stone IV had to become Glare, and expect Malefic IV to advance.
They can absolutely do Broil IV, V, or whatever going forward, unless they come up with a new metaphor for the abilities--it's named like techniques, not like spells.
gaunt star
Guys when you think about it, they only showed 2 dps skills on sage, and im pretty sure one of them was the boosted dps one 
severe brook
i don't think the scythe job we're getting will be anything like his fighting style
viscid monolith
No one ever talks about Ranjit's Lieutenant
gaunt star
You know what this means
viscid monolith
That guy was a secret bad ass
unborn lantern
If only monks was as cool as Ran'jit
gaunt star
No more dots in 6.0
maiden lodge
No one ever talks about Ranjit's Lieutenant
Adjutant more like Chadjutant
gaunt star
No one ever talks about Ranjit's Lieutenant
"G-general...?"
gritty pawn
No more dots in 6.0 <:Kappa:794700815834677268>
nah watch it be the level 90 ability really anti-climactic like
unborn lantern
gaunt star
Dude i fucking hope so
viscid monolith
He was able to keep up with Ranjit at a full sprint and fight with the Viis and Yshtola on even ground
unborn lantern
balmy mesa
argue them to hell, fucking lol
gaunt star
Watch when 90 is basically just presence of mind
maiden lodge
argue them to hell, fucking lol
Yeah, the japanese names for scholar stuff is a little different than spell names get
balmy mesa
Stab, Stab II, Stab III, Stab IV
gaunt star
gaunt star
He was able to keep up with Ranjit at a full sprint and fight with the Viis and ...
He even had the Kefka weapons so he was able to do O8s
viscid monolith
That's pretty poggers
gaunt star
Yeah, the japanese names for scholar stuff is a little different than spell name...
Wait those are the names for ruin??
Or broil
viscid monolith
Broil is called Heated Debate in JP
maiden lodge
My prediction for Red Mage is they'll forget to give Red Mage potency buff traits until later
gaunt star
I thought i was having a stroke reading it
My predictions for Red Mage: embolden will still be physical only
maiden lodge
Broil is called Heated Debate in JP
Well, that's another translation. Argue heatedly--literally it's 'fire speaking' but that's an idiom to argue or embroil or debate.
gaunt star
The more you know
unborn lantern
gaunt star
Fair
viscid monolith
Broil 3 is a mix of Broil 1 and 2 but with blue fire
maiden lodge
Broil 3 is a mix of Broil 1 and 2 but with blue fire
that shoot out of magic glasses
viscid monolith
So Broil 4 or whatever needs to be different
maiden lodge
So Broil 4 or whatever needs to be different
It shoots out mortarboards that then shoot own fireballs
viscid monolith
They shoot giant flaming glasses out of their glasses
gaunt star
Fairy dive-bombs into enemy and explodes on impact
maiden lodge
Fairy dive-bombs into enemy and explodes on impact
Fairy just throws grenades, it's not even a spell any more, just Lily grabbing a tommy gun and going to fucking town
maiden lodge
gaunt star
So we double buff
maiden lodge
gaunt star
Or something
maiden lodge
I don't think they'll give scholar 'a buff fairy'
gaunt star
maiden lodge
I think they'll just give scholar buff abilities their faeries can use
gaunt star
Yeah probably not
maiden lodge
So you don't have to faerie swap
maiden lodge
Maybe add a dps cooldown component to Seraph
cinder badger
gaunt star
Theyre gonna show the job action
Thing
They're gonna show scholar insta-summoning fairy and we're gonna eat it up
Just like pld
maiden lodge
They don't want Selene back as a thing, cause she's either OP and perma out, or she's just brought in for the opener and discarded
And believe me, no one misses 'When Selene Was Good' more than me and my ARR Scholar playing ass
cinder badger
That is the perfect representation of Zenos
maiden lodge
fucking perma bloodlust lets go
gaunt star
That's fair. I was thinking of seraph but she alternatively buffs but then you would never go normal seraph
Else ur griefing
Im bad at predicting stuff but i guess that lets me get surprised when stuff happens
maiden lodge
What I'd do is uncouple aetherflow from energy drain and aetherflow itself--have it trigger from using a cooldown and apply a charge
If you don't use it to heal, you don't use it, too bad.
BUT
SCH's dps kit rounded out so that the lack of Energy Drain is not missed. Not through more dots, but through making an actual rotation.
proper frigate
There's already a rotation, wym
maiden lodge
The other healers getting more involved (but not dot-reliant)
proper frigate
Rotate your finger on the Broil button
maiden lodge
There's already a rotation, wym
111111111111111111 isn't a rotation
maiden lodge
Read the punchline mate
i was typing as you were.
proper frigate
maiden lodge
Any delay is normal server issues. You got your puncline out but it had no effect. You should be used to it from Seraph.
/s
gaunt star
Not bad
cinder badger
"I will be relevant in the final part of the 6.0 arc, just you wait and see..."
gaunt star
heady shadow
you fools.
gaunt star
You had your time old man
heady shadow
its 1111222333111111223111111111112
gaunt star
🤢
proper frigate
Any delay is normal server issues. You got your puncline out but it had no effe...
rip sch
maiden lodge
Also the real scholar rotation is
It's a priority system, so... this is complicated
serene crest
inb4 Zenos isn't the last boss of 6.0 and he instead becomes our Vergil/Vegeta.
That would get people
gaunt star
Here it comes
proper frigate
Zenos redemption arc
gaunt star
If they make zenos our vegeta I'm not gonna be happy
proper frigate
He becomes a Scion halfway through 6.0
gaunt star
🤢
proper frigate
gaunt star
Stop you'll give them ideas
gaunt star
🤢
proper frigate
Or better yet
gaunt star
Let that fucker die once and for all
maiden lodge
- Summon Faerie.
- /follow <tank>
- Go to the kitchen and start making snacks.
- Talk with your family about your favorite anime
- Come back and watch an episode of that anime
- Go back into the game and complain you didn't get commed.
cinder badger
"Surprise! I was Zodiark all along, fools!"
gaunt star
After a bitchin fight
gaunt star
1) Summon Faerie.
2) /follow <tank>
3) Go to the kitchen and start making snacks...
U got the steps confused
- open gearsets
- pick astro
proper frigate
Zenos becomes the moon, it's now the Majora's Mask plot
gaunt star
Fucker's gonna transform into Zodiark
Thats where the fight comes in 
maiden lodge
U got the steps confused
1) open gearsets
2) pick astro
Naw, that's what you tell the WHM in your group.
woven escarp
omae wa mou shindeiru
heady shadow
its a gif
cinder badger
"I'm actually Hythlodaeus."
balmy mesa
no, what's weird is that sephiroth has hair physics but zenos doesn't
or it's relally damn hard to see
chilly plover
i shall give you dis pear
woven escarp
that's because there's no hair physics in XIV
woven escarp
it's not rigged as part of the model and wasting time adding the rigging for a three second gif is a huge waste of time
balmy mesa
I mean, there is
heady shadow
ye have no clue where its from
balmy mesa
it's just not that great
gaunt star
Huh
maiden lodge
He has hair physics he just uses so much product that his hair is more static than the Empty
Really, that was the real calamity
balmy mesa
wow
cinder badger
"Remember when I promised no more secrets? Truth is I'm actually the final boss."
chilly plover
the final boss is 8th chakra widargelt
onyx sundial
xiv actually has hair physics
chilly plover
too bad i have short hair
cinder badger
"I'll have nothing of substance to contribute the entirety of 6.0."
chilly plover
they technically said the climax of the story not the end
what if the entire expansion is just a big cliffhanger
balmy mesa
dear god
maiden lodge
what if the entire expansion is just a big cliffhanger
that's the opposite of ending the story arc.
heady shadow
ye its like dead fanbtasy
maiden lodge
You know they aren't doing that
cinder badger
"I really just want to delete Monk..."
balmy mesa
have a hunch that they just want to break off 1.0 completely
cinder badger
@balmy mesa they're not going to do that
woven escarp
fandaniel is just kefka lmao
rough kestrel
Wildcard is way more fun
woven escarp
"I'm going to destroy the fucking planet because I hate it here"
maiden lodge
have a hunch that they just want to break off 1.0 completely
They already mostly did. They kept what little 1.0 lore they wanted to keep, retconned/ignored/calamity'd the rest and starting Yoshi P's story from when he started on board
balmy mesa
there's still a few refs here and there I guess - would be super cool to see something new unrelated to garleans/etc
maiden lodge
there's still a few refs here and there I guess - would be super cool to see som...
A lot of those are references to Yoshi P's story, not 1.0
You don't see any referenes to the original city leaders for Limsa and Gridania, the elementals were weakened, no one gets kidnapped and forced to remain in Gridania any more... primals are not helpful generally... etc
balmy mesa
hmm, I think I need to find a decent synopsis of what happened between 1.0 and 1.23
someone did all the cutscenes on youtube I think?
woven escarp
yeah, I think there's a handful of those
I know there's one for all the gaius cutscenes
and the end of the realm when they blew the shit up before 2.0 came out
heady shadow
.....
balmy mesa
god that's a stuttery mess
cinder badger
"Help! I'm being held captive in a cold dark place with all the abandoned plot points of the original FFXIV!"
rough kestrel
The only stuff I saw from 1.x was stuff like Gaius trying to talk Nael down from dropping Dalamud
And how much of a horrible idea it was
And Nael is like "Shut the fuck up Gaius, aren't you in Garlemald's bad books now? I do what I want"
cinder badger
"See you in 7.0."
"Me too."
If even half of these come true I'm going to consider myself the Oracle of Eorzea xD
brisk quail
Fuck man. They really need to up the drop rate or reduce the pity cost of the castrum upgrade mats
The drop rate is terrible
cinder badger
Wait this game has a Pity system?
onyx sundial
im waiting for the CLL hotfix
topaz dune
cinder badger
"I'll get Odin as a third Summon phase with a weaker version of Zantetsuken."
"I'll lose fleche with a reduced CD on Contre Sixte."
kindred meteor
lmaoooo
cinder badger
"My gap closer will no longer have a cost."
exotic shuttle
“Why am I not smart enough”
cinder badger
"I won't really lose Nocturnal Sect."
sterile moat
only thing that worries me about AST losing nocturnal is a repeat of SB
where barrier healers are given enough healing to get through
worn forge
AST, like every expansion its been in, will get tuned midway through
sterile moat
while pure healers get hard shafted on mitigation
worn forge
it’s tradition
sterile moat
and get a fuckton of overheal for no reason
thin acorn
"i want disembowel on my AOE combo"
worn forge
“Can I eat lilies without rolling the GCD please”
gaunt star
"I can't wait to see what Delirium does this time"
exotic shuttle
Remember when we have dark arts?
sterile moat
i remember when low blow was drk exclusive
thin acorn
the real goal of WHM class is learn to dps and heal, just a noob class x)
cinder badger
"Dark Knight will lose Abyssal Drain."
worn forge
Leg Sweep used to be integral to Dragoon rotations because it did damage
meaning enemies would get stun immunity
worn forge
I kinda miss the free damage buttons like Swipe and Fluid Aura
sterile moat
caused pacification which almost nothing was affected by
woven escarp
swipe was a TP saver though
sterile moat
yea it was
woven escarp
bulwark -> swipe was how you recovered TP 😌
cinder badger
"Third Polyglot for Black Mage."
exotic shuttle
Give Raise to BLM
woven escarp
poor PLD
exotic shuttle
woven escarp
member 3.0 PLD running out of TP a full minute faster than the other tanks?
with no way to reduce burn rate?
wewlad
sterile moat
speaking of 3.0 pld
cinder badger
"Black Mage aoe Raise."
thin acorn
gift light speed to blm x)
sterile moat
remember how it was basically shit?
wild token
cast thunder on your teammates to defibrillate them
exotic shuttle
Remember when other resers beg BLM for their mana?
sterile moat
you know what i miss?
aggro resets
they shouldn't have taken out dumping aggro from stuff like lucid
exotic shuttle
Aggro system was great
thin acorn
remember the gladiator never keep aggro before lvl 40? x)
worn forge
Paladin would have been fine if the EX trials and Savage didn’t all do nearly exclusively magic damage
Rage of Halone STR DOWN? Nah
grab a DRK instead
wild token
healers needing that mana shift fix and BLM was the dealer
sterile moat
nah, those were the shit gld
worn forge
for that Delirium INT DOWN
sterile moat
good glds marked mobs and raged at the party to hit that mob and not anything else
cinder badger
"Sextuple cast on Black Mage and five umbral hearts!!!"
woven escarp
I mean, with the changes to tank stance being enmity x50 million
who cares about threat dump lmao
sterile moat
it's useful when you get aggro if a tank dies
woven escarp
tank stance basically guarantees nobody is taking threat from you unless they're also a blue box
sterile moat
COUGHBOZJACOUGH
woven escarp
sure, but like, elusive jump is the only thing between the boss and a dead healer
give drg a tank stance you cowards REEEE
sterile moat
this isn't tera
where they randomly made berserk a tank cause nobody wanted to play lancer
cinder badger
"I actually don't have a second job yet. I'm waiting to see what the most popular guesses are..."
woven escarp
I just want to be able to save healers 😔
worn forge
I don’t think the dps with the lowest MDef in the games history should get a tank stance
woven escarp
I'm not always on my blue box
sterile moat
oh yea
worn forge
considering BOTANISTS had more MDef at one point
sterile moat
remember when drg couldn't live final coil?
woven escarp
member when drg literally died at the first jump in titan ex?
sterile moat
yea
woven escarp
because tumults did 40% of your HP each wave?
sterile moat
cinder badger
"Rescue will pull all party members to your position."
woven escarp
inner beast only had a 300 potency heal?
worn forge
they patched that in uhhhhhh 2.1
woven escarp
2.0 war was hot garbage
worn forge
same patch as aesthetician
woven escarp
and yoshi-p was hard standing on "you're doing it wrong you nerds"
worn forge
back when you had to fantasia to swap hair
woven escarp
until someone made him play it
worn forge
they did the same for Ninja on-release, they didn’t like how the community found a more optimal way to play the job iirc
woven escarp
🤔
I don't remember nin getting major adjustments until the last mega buff
where they basically gave nin no downsides and it's insanely good melee dps now
worn forge
the person who told me that needs to get dragged out back, then 
turbid helm
Nice to see someone is taking social distancing protocol seriously
worn forge
NIN release is the only time period I wasn’t subbed for
woven escarp
I know everybody was rushing nin at the time but I don't remember it being good
woven escarp
happy birthday to the ground
gaunt star
Finally
Yeet
cinder badger
"New DPS will spend health on abilities while Bloodlust is removed to become a passive trait specfically for this job."
sterile moat
that would be nice
would promote solo heal parties
the way the game is designed we'd have more fun as healers if jobs were balanced towards solo heal
woven escarp
blue mage 😔
I guess I should get on finishing my spellbook for blue mage
MSQ finally complete
worn forge
you can mop up dungeon spells you’re missing with Basic Instinct, if you don’t wanna PF
woven escarp
I need a lot of dungeon spells 😔
brisk quail
Bruh. I'm hoping to hell that they lower the pity or boost the castrum augment mats
I neeeeed it
sterile moat
sync'd is 100% chance
brisk quail
As fucking if
sterile moat
it's worth the hassle of getting a party imo
prime verge
https://twitter.com/sutavr/status/1339023339130679301?s=21
For the conversation that happened yesterday about opening 14 and hearing a chorus of men
brisk quail
Or. Or
Wild idea.
Let us down trade silver coins
Hell. I'd be happy if it was just like 5-10 bronze per silver
sterile moat
yea i thought on that too
if they let us do silver to gold they should let us do silver to bronze
brisk quail
Like.
sterile moat
it's also bad that field notes give 3 bronze coins and 5 silver
brisk quail
I get if a straight 1 silver to 99 bronze is broken
sterile moat
when you need way less silver than bronze
unborn lantern
here's a bone
sterile moat
castrum needs to drop a fuckton
unborn lantern
who's a good boy?
brisk quail
...
unborn lantern
tiny wind
is the +3 haste worth it 
untold gull
so, i'll be that person and say that i think zenos' weapon looks a dual mace like judge dace's weapon
gaunt star
Zenos weapon is gonna be like Garlands weapon, why have one weapon when you can have them all
rough kestrel
I feel like this moment here in 5.0
Is why Emet is narrating the trailer
Because he proposed the "What if it happens again"
untold gull
i saw someone on reddit said that it might look like the pommel of a weapon and then i thought "if it is then it looks oddly familiar"
and, well, i saw the end of this thing
rough kestrel
What is that
untold gull
a massive club
glossy vale
Zenos' horny bonker
Patent pending
untold gull
well, judge drace's weapon - i'm not an ffxii buff but i knew it looked familiar
placid sail
what Emet didn't understand is that we would search for another way to save the world
ancients when faced with a problem either go somewhere else or create something that'll make the problem go away
Azem beats up the problem
rough kestrel
You know
That final scene in 5.0 with Zenos/Varis/Gaius
Is really just so fucking well voiced
All of the Garlean drama
strange summit
heck yeah
warped parrot
What's the recommended way to get the relics now?
empty moss
not having sanity is a start
warped parrot
What specific raid?
unique verge
My advice on this is largely dependent on "are you trying to get just one done, or are you working on alot at various stages"
kindred meteor
CT - LOTA and ST are about even. Just don't touch WoD lol.
Mhach - Void Ark. Weeping City is close but people are bad at Ozma. Dun Scaith is too long.
Ivalice - Rabanastre. Ridorana is close tho. Orbonne, like Dun Scaith, too long.
unique verge
because if you have alot at various stages until you have to do the Mhach step i think that grinding Bozja is best
subtle pasture
and, well, i saw the end of this thing
HaHA, I’ve long forgotten Judge Drace’s weapon but I also thought that thing looked more like a pommel than a scythehead
—like still could be a scythe, I just wasn’t convinced the end we saw was the scythe blade
unique verge
A pommel is certainly more reasonable than a scythehead.
just due to the angles involved
gaunt star
turbid aspen
https://twitter.com/CasaDegenerates/status/1358987691111587844?s=19
for the low low price of 999 billion gil
unique verge
for it to be a scythehead at the angle presented it would have to be like, the most absolutely useless weapon ever
gaunt star
imagine if the Moon doesnt have aetheryte
they will give u a limited amount of moon tickets
u want more? FFXIV Store
subtle pasture
It’d have to some transforming and/or aetherial thing and that was just the base
unique verge
u want more? FFXIV Store
Calm down Andrew Wilson
subtle pasture
Elsewise,
gaunt star
Calm down Andrew Wilson
says the guy who thinks zenos weapon is a pommel
also whose andrew wilson
unique verge
Thats a name all gamers should know and hate.
subtle pasture
A pommel is the end of a weapon handle, not a weapon type
unique verge
The CEO of EA. The inventor of loot boxes.
obsidian pagoda
Who was more hated, Andrew Wilson or Bobby Kotick?
unique verge
Kotick is more known
But Wilson deserves more hatred
He's literally why we have it
gaunt star
gaming industry would be saved without blizzardctivision and ea 
random anvil
Damn i wish i could trade 1 silver for like 10 bronze
gaunt star
obsidian pagoda
F
half phoenix
I wish we could queue into Castrum from Sjeros in Gangos, instead of instance hopping trying to get in
random anvil
I wish SE staff also ran Castrum so they know how godawful it is
obsidian pagoda
They said there's hotfix otw but who knows when
random anvil
for some reason i assumed it was going to be right after the announcement showcase/LL since they said they realized how undervalued it is for the time commitment required to even run it
obsidian pagoda
Honestly it was a problem even before 5.4 dropped so when nothing happened a lot of people were pissed
gaunt star
random anvil
they honestly thought increasing the sign up timer and adding coins outside castrum was a good enough fix for 2 months
final isle
they doubled the coin drops or whatever, which is fucking nothing
obsidian pagoda
Still not efficient enough to run it
random anvil
so the meta became "Castrum is useless outside of your first clear"
gaunt star
unique verge
Technically no longer true but
Once the playerbase at large gets a meme in their heads getting it out is impossible
final isle
still kinda is, unless you're farming for coins, which a lot of people aren't going to bother with
unique verge
Yeah but the people who are, are the exact people you want in CLL to carry the noobs
I've been running alot of CLL
and its basically two categories of player, largely
New people
and people who either are doing Savage DR, or intend to
final isle
they should increase the amount of coin further though, these 999 augment items are dumb dumb
random anvil
that's why i said "meta"
i would love to run it every time it pops for essences and augs
unique verge
I'm also making a fair bit of money off of CLL grind just due to the shortage of people
Selling fabrics alone has netted me around 6-7mil since 5.45
untold gull
want people to run castrum in an almost regular basis? throw in fashion reward or a minion
gaunt star
The only way to get people to run castrum in 6.0 will be to promise them a house
floral aurora
I love Gunbreaker but have to admit that PLD shot on the moon was awesome!
unique verge
the fuck
obsidian pagoda
what the eff
floral aurora
Wtf?
sterile crag
obsidian pagoda
lmao
obsidian pagoda
I mean that wasn't an invitation to post it again
unique verge
"weird"
gaunt star
what was it
untold gull
I went to brush my teeth and of course, i missed the weirdness 
that's by no means i'm asking what it is, i don't wanna get in trouble
gaunt star
asking for a friend
ember forum
Yay 12 more runs for DR to go, I'll get relic, 50 DR clear achievement, BUT still no HAIR
🥳
strange summit
Are you ok ?
untold gull
damn, that's a long ass time
ember forum
No, I need help
somber storm
get carried
kind lark
A quick shout-out to Soken, love you big man.
somber storm
uneven cape
Yeah soken is pretty cool but have you ever done your stuff that you need to do on time and not procrastinate
untold gull
or even better, finish stuff long before the deadline
uneven cape
That's is even better
cinder badger
Well I'm back.
zealous mulch
I wonder... will we get to see ala mhigo in full for 6.0? Its such a beautiful city!!
cinder badger
I went ahead and bought SHB on ps4
zealous mulch
replaying stormblood now and the city is so majestic!!
wet crown
I wonder... will we get to see ala mhigo in full for 6.0? Its such a beautiful c...
You saw a large part of Ala Mhigo. It's literally the dungeon.
zealous mulch
ooo i was too busy fighting TBH LOL that dungeon hahaha
cinder badger
Can't I just plug in a keyboard and mouse and play on those?
livid vault
Yes
cinder badger
Will ps4 let me do that?
livid vault
Yes
cinder badger
Thank... god
wet crown
Have you tried asking it nicely?
livid vault
Though if you need help trying to play on controller this video helped me a lot
But do whatever makes you more comfortable
carmine prairie
I keep saying people say sage has been mentioned in games lore before but haven't been able to find it. People are saying alphanuads father is one
wet crown
if it has been, it's not meant as in the job.
final isle
Sage is a title is Sharlayan, but yeah not the actual job
that said they might tie them together in the new lore
next marsh
not the first time lore has been changed
final isle
like some Sharlayan Sage is the inventor of the Nouliths and you inherit the title if you can control them or whatever
ultimately they could have called it something different since it has little to do with traditional Sage or with XIV's lore, but I guess they wanted some name recognition because maybe the other class isn't a traditional one
and they didn't want an expansion with 2 classes no one had heard of before(maybe)
shit will be forgotten once people shoot Garleans with pewpew lasers anyway
unique verge
On the plus side to all of this
We can all finally stop trying to figure out the right way to pronounce this
next marsh
academician or alphinaud?
limber pivot
but dont they say his name all the time
unique verge
Clearly the job, not the name, lol
limber pivot
ohhh
next marsh
according to google it aka da mission 🤣
final isle
just academy then cian
next marsh
thats how i see it
btw anyone seen this dudes datamine videos? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xooOZtP1Uwo
rough kestrel
I'm pretty sure anything from 6.0 isnt in the game until 6.0 so that Datamine shit is bullshit
next marsh
i mean the music sounded similar to the one in the teaser
final isle
they could add a new song in 5.5 or whatever, but don't think it'd be in the game in 5.45, they'll rarely patch in stuff that far in advance
viscid glade
I wonder... will we get to see ala mhigo in full for 6.0? Its such a beautiful c...
late reply but we're getting explorer mode for SB dungeons right?
kind lark
I'm just not going to watch those videos just in case, spoilers be damned
rough kestrel
But anytime music is datamined we immediately know what the name of it is.
next marsh
late reply but we're getting explorer mode for SB dungeons right?
believe so they mentioned adding more in the live letter
viscid glade
sick
unique verge
btw anyone seen this dudes datamine videos? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xooO...
That guy is pretty well confirmed to be trolling
Those videos got circulated in #archived-lore-spoilers a couple weeks ago
next marsh
i see
kind lark
That's no moon though, it's the secret allagan super weapon
flint iron
Well consider dalamud is a thing i guess that count too
unique verge
Allagan moonbase seems highly likely to be a thing
soft gyro
surely, you could predict anything as long as yoshi p mentioned anything
like, brawling
and gundams
unique verge
Given that the moon has been shown as basically completely barren yet we're going there as a destination
next marsh
to be fair we kinda already got the gundam in saphire
flint iron
That what i just mention
next marsh
Given that the moon has been shown as basically completely barren yet we're goin...
I'm sure its not completely barren, probably has some cloaking tech
gaunt star
That aetheryte in the files is almost surely garlemald
Also we’ve had the map of Ishgard as a residential district since the firmament was opened so
flint iron
So we go to garlemald, steal a space ship and launch
gaunt star
Basically yes unless there are other zones on the planet which they haven’t revealed
The thing corresponds to map 2=garlemald
unique verge
See, im a bit iffy on that though
because the trailer and art thus far indicates that the capital is going to basically be a smoking crater
flint iron
Basically yes unless there are other zones on the planet which they haven’t reve...
The place when blue mage is from
rough kestrel
Someone proposed an idea where Fannydan puts us there to get us out of the way
And I could see that
Not sure how you'd do that gameplay wise
unique verge
I said that, but idk if you are thinking of me there
The trailer implies it, in my eyes
because Zenos on the tower is implied to be gazing at the moon, where we are
i.e we're not chasing him to the moon
rough kestrel
To be fair there is a transition there that doesnt look natural
kind lark
He's probably pondering on how to kill zondiark
gaunt star
Unlikely we’ll go to the new world until 7.0
rough kestrel
But there is a whole "Eye" motif going on with the moon.
gaunt star
There’s nothing relevant there for now
rough kestrel
It's just more Martyns being shit
zealous mulch
anyone guesss on the new main city yet? its not Radz-atHan(Thats the smaller city)
rough kestrel
Sharlayan
unique verge
The other thing is that the beginning of the trailer kind of, to me at least, has alot of visual cues to say that we've been "wandering the moon" for quite some time
gaunt star
Could be anything
rough kestrel
I think the odds are insanely high that we'll be going there based on Sage
gaunt star
Sharlayan (so far) doesn’t have a unique icon as of the last trailer
unique verge
I dont see Sharlayan being a thing for certain story reasons, but we'll see.
next marsh
Thavnair/Radzpat han seems like it might be the starting city
zealous mulch
but sharlayan are isolationist.
gaunt star
However given that they change details in trailers like they did in shadowbringers they could update it to give it an icon
rough kestrel
@unique verge I mean I see it as the metaphorical landscape from SHB
gaunt star
Thavnair is the way to garlemald so it makes sense that’s zone one and then 2 is garlemald
unique verge
<@!233381902868938752> I mean I see it as the metaphorical landscape from SHB
Im specifically referencing the condition of Derplanders armor. Looks like you'd expect it to look if you'd been trudging through endless moondust for a month.
rough kestrel
We'll go there, based on the logo art, but I think that imagery of us fighting the light and wandering in SHB is basically the same thing this time with the moon
Not literal wandering.
unique verge
As a random....ponderance
zealous mulch
after what they shown of garlemald im not too thrill going there..its a dead city 😮
unique verge
I'm wondering about another possibility in terms of story as a means of "why are we even on the moon if Zenos isnt there"
rough kestrel
No I'm more excited because I saw a fucking modern road
I want the reveal that it was basically like that XV City
zealous mulch
meh tbh i prefer amaurot.
gaunt star
We’ve already seen what garlemald looks like normally
That promo pic is a bit of the capitol because it matches with the buildings in the cutscenes
unique verge
Why go to the moon if its not to chase Zenos - the only real reason is Zodiark is located there. What would cause us to abandon the chase of Zenos and go after Zodiark instead.
next marsh
yeah its basically just metalic buildings and shiz
unique verge
Kinda thinking maybe Fandaniel basically holds the planet hostage and tells us to go kill Zodiark for him.
rough kestrel
Who says any of that is sequential.
unique verge
Its a problem that he needs solved that he cant do himself
next marsh
I am curious though why Fandaniel still treats Zenos like a king