#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
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JP Haurchefant wanted to take off our clothes
he can't if he's de-
JP haurche wanted to ride us like chocbo
Now to be fair, over half of the players wanted to do the same to him
Anyone have a link to EW teaser music + vocals but no Emet
Yes lemme time travel and get the full clean version
probably until the actual release of the soundtrack
I've been annoyed the whole time, it was our moment to ask yoshi P for an expanded glamour
Or they can give it to us as a music roll at the very beginning like shadowbringers to
plates
No emit-silk? Y
I figured some nut on Balmung had already edited Emet out
Just to get that sweet vocal clarity
I'm so excited for the official trailer for Endbringer
lmao, endbringer
Endwalker* i mean

That's fandango
next expansion will be named cumchugger
Next expansion is Zenos comes back a 3rd time
in a different body
I mean, Hydaelyn hasn't said jack all to us ever since HW so like
she's.. ever so quiet.. peacefully watching us
This time he wants to be more than just friends
Useless mother crystal
She did speak to the entire living population of the First
We're edgy emo WoL anyways
We found out her secret so now she has "No talk me, am angy"
Although.. i like the idea of setting aside the rivalry between zenos and the WoL to defeat the greater threat whom is Zodiark >:3
Zenos gonna vore Zodiark and become Zeromus
Zenos: no one interferes with my hunt
And then we stab him in the back when he's not looking because Zeno doesn't deserve kindness
The final boss is gonna be a supris3
Scythe wielding class I'll enjoy lol necromancer would be magic dps not melee dps
Final boss is gonna be the WoL
We kinda fought ourself already
again
the dark knight quest
Final boss pissed off azem
SOS was basiclly a Azem boss fight
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That's the final boss of the Nier raid
Haurchefant found the warrior of Light to be quite "Splendid"
next expansion, WoL will have a voice actor
Yoshi is the boss of 5.5 who has 440 million HP

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For just one last line
Kupo
Wol does have one its called veira voice 7
@unborn lantern fun fact the 1.0 trailer actually gave derplander a voice and he spoke
WoL could've tanked that spear tbh, we've survived worse
And everything will implode
Haurchefant, an eden primal
But then we wouldn't have to cry every time we hear
born from our ememories
Ooh me likey
A smile better suits a hero

Remember when people thought Shiva was gonna be like Omega M and F but with Horseradish and Ysayle?
ye
They needed a meaningful sacrifice
We need another character death to impact us like Haurchefant
Ooo, next expansion boss
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And his sacrifice was "splendid"
Allisaie
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@inner kite leave my girl alone
Conrad's death is the worst death, like...I didn't care that he died
Take alphinaud
We barely even knew the guy
I would like Ryne and Gaia to die
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And then kill her again
unless we are..
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That'd be sick
sees Alisaie Must.... protect...
Y'shtola will be the next villain
the one emet selch brought back to life wasn't actually the real y'shtola

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@gaunt star she just gets heavily wounded in stormblood
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Emet-selch could had brought Hauchefant back to life
And then in shadowbringers he does the thing she did in A Realm Reborn

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@gaunt star he's not dead either
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He got beat up pretty badly by Oshi it's Ranjit
But he didn't actually die
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The one we deserve not the one we need
Is that... Hythlo?
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Alexanders the most powerful primal
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Thats what silly uplander shethinks
Alexander blue prints were made by au'ra iirc
@inner kite but it was still Goblin interperoitation.
True
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he was also only defeated because he chose to destroy himself, not because he needed to be defeated.
:3
It wasn't neutral it was a machine
Alex the true hero of ffxiv
Only as bad or good as the one who controls it
could even bring back all the amouratians back to life
And the Goblins were trying to control it
they tried
If we hauled few planets worth of aether perhaps yes
All the Illuminati wanted was all the secrets for themselves
@unborn lantern so it was Skynet
Y E S
That's even worse
Kill it with fire
Before it starts cranking out an army of Austrian bodybuilders
To think about it, even if we did nothing. The goblins wouldn't have won
we didn't need to go through all that raids
Light exercise for wol
@unborn lantern you're absolutely right, Alexander would have just sat there and soaked up all of the Aether
i hope endwalkers raid is more like coil and alexander
It won't
It doesn't just require aether to summon a primal it requires aether just to keep it around
getting a little tired of digitized/imagined past bosses ๐
Trials with a diffrent name
yeah basically
But no you see its not trial its raid
Sorry SE small indie company, no money you see
trial+
2nd strongest primal goes to Alexander
Ima donate to their onlyfans
@gaunt star what do you mean imagined
what would even be there to raid in pandaemonium? ๐ค
the eden fights against past primals
The primals you fought in the Eden raid were actual primals
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red chocobo
How did lahabread end there
The Primal takes the form of how the Summoner perceives it
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the only ascian that's left is Lahabrea
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So we summoned the primals, it's just the WoL has a more fked mind than we thought
He was sealed in the eye, and then that eye was used to summon Shinryu, right?
he summoned naked Ryne

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@unborn lantern actually ryne did that herself. As Shiva was a different kind of summoning
They had to spend 13k years without their original bodies so guess they got weak
I thought we got rid of him, but
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that nose
Shiva needed the evoker to become the primal so Ryne just had to guess what Shiva was like.
She almost caused another flood
inb4 last boss of pandamonium is a clone of urself
That'd be cool
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when you beat it your character gets deleted and the launcher installs ff14 2
EWWWWWWWWWWWW
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instead he was just... loafing around... in the aetherial sea

I wonder what Lalafell would summon as their primals
my peanus weanus
Probably an actual potato.
..
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There was never a hope that she would properly summoned Shiva. Ysaile was able to because she fervently believed that she was Saint Shiva reborn, Ryne had no such attatchment.
Lord savior Popoto
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a cardboard box

the fuck
based
I don't know what this is but take it down
I hate this and I hate you for posting it.
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dafaq?


oh
6.1 now
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Um... Security?
7.0 should move the game to a new engine
the globgogabgalab
Police
literally none of that was worth posting
not possible unless you're willing to have a whole year of no content
Ooo they adding new hair for lalafells
This is maybe not directly related but I must ask none the less
i would be if it was on a new engine
just kidding, that's unfortunately a mod
"Belts being removed as an equipable slot."
What will happen to the old belts?
Also, that is an extra cute lalafell ^^

they'll become rare currency
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@carmine root all belts are going bye-bye
I like the cuteness of the kiddo Au Ra
i think they said theyre moving to the calamity salvager
belts will become worth millions
Remove your belts you will feel better
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Can I keep my old belts as a junk item or will they be deleted? Can I trade them in for seals?
@unborn lantern modded
It is
yea
Those are my main questions
Didn't know Queen had a Hot or Cold mechanic
I've always thought it was a bit odd they kept them
modded hair is so stiff
afaik theyre not being deleted
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just moved to the calamity salvager amd being made non equippable
i mean the hair and physics on this game looks stiff
I like holding onto unobtainable items
Belts with pentamelds ๐ฆ
ew, an elf
i kinda have fond memories of a savage raid belt since it was the first i ever got
@gaunt star I'm from balmung I've seen worse
old ass belt but i mean i wouldn't REALLY care if they were deleted
Plot twist: You would have gotten rid of your belt in 6.0 anyways
Wol saggypants
sad part is.. they won't delete the items in your inventory
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Hopefully we can trade them in for seals. I won't be keeping all of my belts
But at least one. ^^
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Finally we will have belts as a weapon type
Pentamelded crafter belt as a fond memento of gil lost and dreams achieved
with same damage as when my mom uses it on me
I see Honeydew gave up on the juggler dream

With belts being gone we can't get that 4 str 4 stam leather belt
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I dream of a "face" slot for cosmetic items
Masks, glasses... and so on, that don't compete with cute hats
steal the character customisation from pso2
@unborn lantern the point of removing belts was because apparently a lot of players just found them annoying. People want equipment items you can see on your character so when a belt dropped in a dungeon people collectively sigh in disappointment
there was a bug with shadowbringers that required clients to be locked to 60fps otherwise physics just wouldn't work
wtf
go ahead
It's because there's too many belts in 24-man raids and people only spam them for glam
change to your new job
Okay like this is getting dangerously close to R34 territory
The answer should be to just enable legacy mode like WoW has instead of just removing belts
Let people solo CT and VA lol
What do you need belts for
We have magical pants
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That stay up by themselves

Oh the best part about removing belts is that it means getting glamour will be that much easier ^^
I didn't even consider that
we just have to suspend our disbelief
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Considering that are gear fits us in various shapes and sizes regardless of what race we choose I'd say belts are pretty unnecessary
We should just be pressuring them to enable a legacy farm mode instead of praising them for removing belts
You'll still get useless jewelry.
They seem to adjust to our size and fits perfectly
Jewelry is not entirely useless
At least its VISIBLE
Though bracelets often come close... it's so hard to make those show
My Aetheryte earring is the only one that matters
Unless you have the banana ears for Viera, the earrings just look silly unless you get a hoop-styled one
I expect the 5 "banked" slots they are saving from losing belts is going to Soul crystals
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there's only 3 spots left after EW wym
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2 if they add another limited job
they're probably saving the addresses for something else
maybe I don't know enough, soul crystal == job crystal or no?
Next expansion, lalafells can finally mount Roegadyn
This is one of my favorite earrings in the game:
https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Augmented_Shire_Preceptor's_Earrings
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yes
There are a lot of really good looking earrings
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To just stick to hoops, that feels like a waste
There's 18 Jobs right now and only 23 slots. We are getting 2 more with EW.
I see, thank you
It would be a dream come true if there was an emote that let players carry others with an emote in some way
I really wish there was a way to get allclass jewelry replicas or something
As a lalafell I am of course biased but it doesn't have to be limited to just us
I doubt it's feasible though
Where's my "carry luggage" emote like Thancred uses for Gaia
cuz having 6 different varieties of jewelry per slot with the exact same look is annoying when something does look good
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I'd be content if you couldn't move with the emote
wait now that we have NieR in the universe, why can't we just get Raubahn an android arm
Well it's technically 5... unless you are including crafting, then it's 7
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but he's going to jail
I don't know if that's a spoiler
But please don't if it is, this is one of the few games that I really love the story for ^^;
Yayayo will never get married. She's too busy moving to settle down.
You are in the wrong channel if you don't want spoilers lol
I'm just requesting it
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Not demanding it

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You have a lot of racy lala photos
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SLOPPEH
I was saying this is getting dangerously close to R34 territory
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Do not presume to know what I know
Regardless you can get banned for ut
You think a mod would look at that picture and say it's okay?
they would say that, but i think some would secretly keep
Is the ending of pure essences just flavor text? Or just alluding to the secrect combos?
that's only between us tho btw
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there are secret combos
They each buff one other action
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though even if i did got banned, I wouldn't mind.. getting removed from the unofficial discord for ffxiv

If you're referring to the pictures you just posted It's not a matter of admiring somebody else's art it's a matter of provocative or suggestive pictures our kind of a RedZone here
sir, this is a wendy's
Wendy Wu: Homecoming Warrior
It wouldn't be a problem if it was okay and others haven't been reprimanded for it before. It isn't fair to them or anybody else if only some get in trouble and not all
Five guys

ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
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Five guys good
we lalafells gotta watch for one another
They are trying to stay in partner server ya know


Did my post just get deleted?
we're being watched i think
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lmao
from me
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All lalafell matter. But Nanamo Ul Namo does matter the most.
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its in Keizer OR...... wow
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She has too big of a heart
i dont want to go to oregon anyway
It's a flaw I admire
Oregon is cool tho
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@carmine root she's learned though
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who made her a ruler?
She has indeed, she has had a lot of character development
I am not certain who coronated her or if that's even specifically mentioned
She's the Sultana by blood so she's in the ruling class by default
Ohh
Ul'dah is a monarchy more specifically Sultanate. The title is passed down to Bloodline
Her parents died when she was young so she was coronated when she was like 5 or something like that
According to the lore, there was technically a period where the Ul family did not rule Ul'dah
But that has nothing to do with Nanamo Ul Namo
Correct but it actually functions more like an oligarch with the Syndicate members all having equal power

Reason: please don't post risquรฉ lala stuff please
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Uh oh.
Except The Syndicate has more power
Thank you
i didn't even know who risque is
Because they're assholes
Well Nanamo is just part of the syndicate
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I have very little faith in The Syndicate when one of its members is an old Highlander dude who likes to run around butt naked
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And wants people to oil him up
And yeah, let's please not discuss lalas and rule 34 in that context again
no more lala discussion?!
You're correct. The monetarists are slowly eroding the balance of power in the Sydicate
Just not lewd ones please.
I mean you can discuss lalas. Just not in a fringe NSFW way
Cute pictures are fine pictures of them starting to strip or probably not the best idea
Fineee :c
eww
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Honestly, I am really excited with the direction they are taking Thavnair.
I've noticed the male lalafell are more evil
It's because they are

But then you've got lalafell like Pipin.
explains why we don't have a male sultan
Did someone replace Teledji's spot yet in the Syndicate?
Lalafell are capable of being good and evil both
Papalymo I think
Pipin would make a fine Sultan
is also a hero
Though I am shocked that it is gonna be the smaller city. I figured being a major trade hub for the whole world due to it's key location between east and west, that Raz-at-han would be more grandiose than it is shown by the shots we saw
It just stands out more for lalafell because everyone likes to think they are perfectly innocent
Also, Ul'dah has a very bad reputation (in some ways) and it's primary population is... lalafell.
It's because it was built by the descendants of Mhach
I guess that's true though. Male lalafell would be more likely to flaunt it.
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Mhach's dominate race was Lalafell with it's most powerful ruler also being a lalafell
Shatotto
btw you ever heard what they did to their sister city?
That's why there was a period of time where the Ul family did not lead Ul'dah
Shatotto was the most powerful BLM in history you actually can learn this from the Black Mage Quest
It may surprise you but not every Ul Sultan has been as kind hearted and pure as Nanamo. Some of them were downright evil
@unborn lantern dwarf homes
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I am confused what does any of this have to do with 6.0, or the live letter?
yes she is in dissidia
Tarutaru: Onions.
Lalafell: Potatoes
When we are on the moon, do we fish on space or fish on water on the moon
It's fair to confuse them; it was definitely intentional
Shattoto is a female lalafell. You meet her ||in the black mage quests||
its like a cursed lalafell... I don't even know how it can get even more cursed. @unborn lantern
Isnt Tataru's full name a play off the FFXI race?
(I have not completed the class story for it so I don't know how it plays out)
A tall lalafell is more cursed
Yes it is Scree
trust me
It's Tarutaru
Bring back giant Shantotto
Unpopular opinion - Taru Taru were less shitty than Lalafell
Tataru is never mentioned as Tataru Taru, but those who know naming conventions realize it
I am hoping that for one of the materials instead of a renamed ore we get something cool like bluespirit again. Like 'Lunar stone' or 'Lunar Crystal' as a primary ore tier
Yes that is not an opinion but objective reality
she speaks in rhyme because it's impossible to take gnome races seriously anyway
Or at least I don't think she is...
I am certain we'll get something related to the moon
Shatotto is how it's spelled
Obviously we are going to be mining on the moon.
Thank you, I mixed up the t's. She doesn't have a typical lalafell naming convention but it's close
It was mentioned in the first lore book ||that Zodiark is on/in the moon||
If our world is Hydaelyn, then the moon is...
I think.
zodiark kinda smol
@carmine root also her full name is mentioned in the MSQ Tataru Taru
maybe zodiarks a lalafell
Clearly
This is the proper way to defeat Zodiark

im spoiling future expansions
I believe that. It's not mentioned often though. I don't think many of the scions have their last names mentioned.
Not often at least.
Waters
Err, Waters is Thancreds last name
Man. Why does no one wanna farm clusters 
wtf
I just want them yummy pure essences
I can't remember if she changed her name or was simply adopted and named with a hyur name
a loathsome from a CE? I thought it was a myth
She doesn't have a lalafell name at all
that ain't fair
@carmine root mentioned during her and Alphinauds trial in HW
Yeah, she's the adopted granddaughter of Galuf Baldesion
What was? o.o
they had to stick with the loc changes all the way from ff5
The judge calls her Tataru Taru
Oh!
Galuf is a Hyur and yes Krile was adopted that's why she doesn't have a lala name
They were accused of consorting with Heretics
Which was all a setup by the heavens Ward
i see
@obsidian pagoda it was also so they could have a Final Fantasy V reference
so she's Krile Baldesion
I have not played FFV, but I suspected Krile was a reference
Aye, with Galuf and the Students of Baldesion nods to FFV
Pretty much, I guess they didn't have to make her a Lala but her design is just adorable
in fact, Galuf's whole team in one of the Eureka flashbacks is nods to his party from V
down to inserting a shirtless Lupin for some dog guy?
She is very cute! Isn't her outfit on the store?
I have to admit the outfit is tempting
@obsidian pagoda her outfit resembles Krile's White Mage outfit in Final Fantasy 5
(reminder, shirtless lupin were basically modeled for those cutscenes, I think)
Sadly it's not dyable
And, you know... one character only
That bugs me even though I don't really play alts anymore
Yeah, but making her a lala just adds to the cuteness, matches the super deformed sprites haha
lyse's red dress
I'd like that too. I think her outfit is harder to implement?
A similar issue exists for kimonos
I want Lyse's hairrrr
I'd love that too
@obsidian pagoda despite her actually not being very cute and a lot more mature than most of the other members of the Scions
What hair costs that much?
I don't recall any hair being that expensive... was it added recently?
On a dodo mount of course.
I bet you you can get the Gyr Abania hair the cost 30 million Gill
They are so adorable
The things people do to look slightly better.
@worn bloom hey if I'm going to save the world from certain destruction I might as well look good doing it
I am of the same mind.
Gyr hair goes for dirt cheap last i look led
Frankly, Tataru is terrifying with how she manipulates money.
I may have just never looked into that hairstyle
@dim sigil who has time to grind for that hair I thought you could only get it from Heaven on high
The new hair that was added in 5.4 drops at the end of DR and is super rare. Its ~20mil on most servers.
Oh so it is new
seems alot of people is selling it
Oh
I haven't even started on Bozja
I haven't played as much FFXIV, I worked too hard on the Ishgardian restoration (before the one that occurred recently) and I never fully recovered
So I have missed a bit
Not much of that went around.
Oh, actually, will there be any more crafter/gatherer ranking content in 6.0?
All I saw as a lady who went cra cra with revenge.
I'm... not sure if I want it to be honest. But I am curious.
Spending 10 straight days crafting expert crafts for all of my waking hours is not something I'll ever repeat
Or ... was it even longer?
I may have blocked it out of my memory
Not for the competition
The more you slept the more it worked against you
It encouraged some very unhealthy gameplay
I didn't touch it outside of speed leveling my crafters I never intended to push into doing 3-Star to 4-Star recipes.
I do love crafting and gathering though, the island content is something I'm very curious about
That was wise ๐
I did achieve my goal but it cost me a bit of my sanity
Breaking into the crafting game is really expensive if you want to the higher end crafts.
I'll never do anything like it again
There's my cute lala pic btw
Nice
I like it! Especially since it's a red mage

She's proud of her Mhachi herritage
I really hope to never get "armor" like in Violet Tides dungeon.
Swim suits are not armor SE.
It actually is expensive, melding costs a lot but you don't need pentamelded gear
The only tools for instance I pentamelded were the set I was competing for
The rest I was quite content to just do base melds on
Red Mage is the best mage
Tbh, I always wish they'd do more with the Materia system.
And these days you can get away with the scrip gear I'm sure, although it won't be as efficient
I like XIV, but it has some of the most boring itemization possible.
For me I just wish the stats were more interesting
Thats what I was referring to.
They just don't feel very impactful...
but at least I don't have to think much about them
Beyond setting up my gear.
XIV mostly boils down to memorizing a pattern and keeping your rotation flow going.
I am mostly okay with that, if the rotation was too complicated then it would make a lot of the encounters very very hard
I did not play much in Heavensward because I was overwhelmed on non-healing classes.
La-HEE-breha
DR had a lot of mechanically interesting fights for me.
Plus no trash only boss
I love it when a developer grasps the memes from their own product
For instance when I was attempting the Warrior of Light, I could focus entirely on the fight and not have to worry about juggling a rotation
I didn't care much for the Doom mechanic though.
The rotation for me is enough to be fun without being distracting
I am happy with it
2 mistakes oops your dead
to be fair, vuln stacks should work the same way
I haven't done DR. In fact I haven't done most of the current "Extreme" or "savage" content in any fashion for 5.4
Or maybe any of it...
I'll even ask Koji
I love the doom mechanic.
Technically
I want to know why grapes
Its perfect
I do remember the Memoria one being super fun though
DR isn't close to being Savage tier content.
Unlike vuln stacks, it effects everyone equally
Does somebody in the development team just love grapes?
Lots of people seem to hate it but I really enjoy the dance
Even the normal one you're liable to die a lot.
I even learned how to photobomb the cutscene and it makes me so happy
Not if you, you know, do the mechanics.
I understand that
But not making mistakes a lot harder than it sounds.
idk
we wiped twice on a blind run right after servers came up on day one
i havent failed a mech in DR since
its not really that hard
I know these fights pretty well and mistakes persist dude to the fact people can't be perfect at executing them all the time.
Having done DR a few times now it's not that difficult
The only savage tier content I do is the ones my free company invite me to. Which has mostly just been the last tier of content. I don't normally attempt savage content, but they made it a lot more fun for me than anything else. I truly adore and admire my free company ^^
It isn't that difficult
Even hopping into extremes that I haven't done before makes me terribly uncomfortable, let alone savage content.
I find it kind of funny that asmongold became impressed with Alexander ultimate
The best time to do Extremes is at their release.
No one has a set strategy yet so everyone else is in the same boat.
That said I do agree, they are more fun when they first come out!
I really loved learning Warrior of Light
I did the first tier of Eden with a static. I didn't continue because it stressed me out. But it was fun learning the mechanics and progging.
Memoria, too
I only did Ramuh on Savage
The other ones I never got around to trying, but we did a lot of progression for E5S
Ramuh's weapons are some of my favorite for weapon glamours.
So SEX
.....
Something of Sacrifice EXtreme
Was fun
I kinda wish for more difficult 4-man content. Some kind of inbetween.
I'm sure the abbreviation is not coincidental... >.>
Not so easy like dungeons but not team jump rope like Savage
We made the job for SHiva already, you're late to that party
I can't be the only one who read it like that
Bring back deep dungeons
Come on guys
Actually I love deep dungeons. But I am happy doing the old ones
Deep Dungeon while cool really got old for me.
I just wish I could find people to do them with
Titan unreal is easy but i think one of the most fun fights
Gotta relearn the Titan Tango.
I love how small the arena gets
I never learned Titan Extreme to begin with
Titan unreal honestly just annoys me
Sometimes this chat makes me sad
I was too shy to try it during ARR....
because like
I did that shit back in ARR
and its just bringing back memories of people being dipshits back then too
lol
I miss being able to raise people as PLD in ARR
well
Remember when Sleep was useful in dungeons?
at levast
It's nice finally getting to experience a proper Titan battle
theres no lag
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Before people started wall to wall pulling everything?
DRG's dont get hosed in Unreal
this is all I know about Titan Extreme
out of combat only, meh
As a bitter and hateful DRG main (in my ARR days), Titan EX can fuck right off
I hope sage gets stone skin back in some way
They won't
Not really. I only ever saw it see use in Brayflox normal for the add that spawns for the 2nd boss
Stoneskin could be added back, but it would function like a standard barrier
The old stoneskin would not fit into the current game
Before wall-to-wall, so... the alpha?
I've used sleep before. It's great in Deep Dungeons
No he means 1.0
I don't?
Wait sleep was usefull?
I think they actually are making healers more engaging in Endwalkers
Sleep and repose are both useful
Not that I am unhappy with them currently, but they are making them even better.
Tbh
Fluid aura
Sleep and Repose are situational and not really designed for standard dungeons
I reposed a pack of mobs in a dungeon when tank died.
They self-revives and walked back
Remember when we had knock backs
You know the hardest part about being a tank is the pressure you get
Blue mage gets what fluid aura used to be from swallows compass
Fluid Aura keeps making the cut despite being nearly useless.
People always pressuring me to marry my healer
Fluid aura is part of job quest
Fluid Aura was removed/changed because white mages were using it badly
Sole reason it cant be cut
Every time a white mage ran up and used it to deal damage I died inside
I don't think Fluid Aura even deals damage anymore.
It doesnโt
It being a knockback was very useful
It doesn't even bind anymore or any of the stuff that might make it useful.
But it was used badly far more often than it was used well
And that dumb bard that wouldnt give you mp
Fluid Aura was useful?
And never used in that way
Hey now
Exactly...
It is in Deep Dungeon groups
It seems they are moving WHM away from less being based around CNJ lore and making shiny sparkly mage.
I miss Stone
@carmine root only if people are stupid and step on traps
If you miss stone, just head to a low level zone and enter a FATE ๐
otherwise I never ever needed it
Deep Dungeons have all sorts of things that you don't plan on happening, happen
It's not always a trap
Why is it so hard to use Discord on a phone
Glare isn't sadly my favorite animation.
Sometimes you just have like, every patrol run into you all at the same time
Or something similarly unlucky
Aero 3 to
I think for me, Deep Dungeon just feels all aesthetically too similar.
@carmine root honestly the Deep dungeon groups I get just melt through everything
Deep dungoens are great i love hoh runs
HoH didn't change much from PotD so meh.
It's rare for me to need repose in deep dungeons
But when I do need repose, I am grateful I have it
I can also use it to interrupt certain attacks
Even if we do get swarmed we just melt and we always have witching if we really really need it
Witching isn't really enough on the really high floors
They will still kill you
Wait...
It'll buy you some time.
you're talking about the higher floors too right?
I'm not talking about the low level ones
So regarding sleep, it had a use once---in dungeons.
It enabled mass pulling. You'd pull a whole shit ton of mobs, sleep them at the boss arena, and then the wall for the boss would come up before they unslept.
To me I always wondered if they applied a similar system they use in Deep Dungeons that modify how each floors on but put them on dungeons.
I only got to 150 on the old on (the party just kind of stopped and got stuck), but I have completed Heaven on High 2 or 3 times
I think 2....
This was the replacement for sac-pulling when the tank pulled everything to the boss door, no one did a damn thing to help them, they died, then you rezzed them.
I can never find anyone to run them ๐ฆ
Yea during the prae run to the boss room
Before sac pulling, there was 'you get a free week because the launch was hinky' and before that it was 'Man I can't wait for A Realm Reborn to be released I heard they fixed it and it's not shit.'
They should let Blue Mage Run Deep dungeons
Sometimes i sleep the mobs so the tanks can press the buttom
It would be broken in favor of the blue mages and they'd have to redesign the deep dungeons
There was NEVER a time when tanks didn't pull big, in the history of this game. NEVER.
or just accept that every single deep dungeon would consist of 4 blue mages
@carmine root no they wouldn't but the blue Mages have their fun deleting everything
It would be fun of course but ridiculously broken
Tbh
@cinder badger exactly how far they can climb
If they did deep dungeon with blue mages, it'd have to be designed around them as a core.
Limited Jobs as a concept just don't work for me personally.
@carmine root but that was the goal of the blue Mage limited job thing anyway
And that could be fun, but it wouldn't be built around other jobs
They were supposed to be incredibly broken and OP which is why they couldn't be a normal job
deep dungeons are already easy why not just let BLU plow through it
Could just make it so BLU cant rank on the leaderboard
I'm fine with them. Blue Mage isn't even the first job with content specifically for it that can't get into raids
It's fun enough that I don't think I'd mind entirely but I know it will never happen and I know why
No one bitches about gatheresr being limited, after all ๐
Don't get me wrong
Well they are, aren't they?
Gatherers aren't listed under Disciples of Magic
BLU as a side activity is plenty fun
Is Dis being stupid again
The next Eureka esque content we get better be the new world and it better be Eureka for BLU
Gatherers don't whack enemies with their pickaxes and fishing rods until loot appears
So I don't think they count
A) No access to end game battle content
B) Has special content specifically for it
C) Doesn't interact with the other battle jobs
He's the only person I've seen make an argument for less content for Blue Mage
tmbToday at 9:29 PM
Gatherers aren't listed under Disciples of Magic
Yes, they have a gameplay loop that is incompatible with the other jobs.
Thanks for noticing
Hey guys look I broke into square enix office and got a pic of the new scythe job in 6.0
It would be specifically for blue mage because the new world is where Blue Magic comes from
It's not something I want to argue about it's a bit silly ^^;
Just let Blue Mages into Deep Dungeon so they can have more stuff to do. Make it a solo only challenge. Give them a special title for finishing all 200 floors.
@pine epoch will people please stop doing that
People think that Necromancer will be the new melee job because of that shirt but...
Um... how would that work?
Wouldn't necromancer be a spellcasting character?
I'm pretty sure Necro as a theory has been dead for a while.
Reaper is the most accepted theory
It could be a melee
We've accepted other classes can have game play loops that don't feature into teaming up with the main battle jobs in endgame content, and stuff. I honestly think the fact there's no gathering in Bozja or Eureka is a bigger oversight than the fact you can't cast Phantom Flurry, tbh
A scythe is a melee weapon
I mean a job using a scythe wouldn't neccasary have to be related to death.
Stop what? @cinder badger
right
@carmine root why does wielding a scythe make you a necromancer that doesn't even make any sense
yall are being lowkey not big brain about the new job










