It seems like the prizes you can exchange tickets for the show of gotten a lot more pathetic
#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
cinder badger
I remember going to places and you could get a brand new gaming consoles and even a freaking computer with enough tickets
inner kite
Lots of mobile games sell gear/characters in gatcha form
real swift
I used to go to one where you could buy booster boxes of various trading card games
kind lark
Pachinko machines and their overwhelming sound
cinder badger
@inner kite yeah have you heard of this one called "Gacha Impact"?
humble rain
Dissida Opera Omnia is a gacha game
inner kite
Ofc chinese spy game
forest magnet
Did you know that SE's Gacha games bring in more revenue than XIV does.
real swift
if SE makes a virtual card game like hearth stone or shadowverse i could only imagine how much money they would make.
kind lark
Pretty much any game that isn't gacha and pachinko make less. I think That fate game makes billions, billions its nuts
cinder badger
Gwent
digital forge
lmao
real swift
Pokemon masters makes a metric crap ton of money.
somber storm
triple triad
cinder badger
Screw triple Triad play gwent
digital forge
If only people know how absolutely fucking huge gacha is
thin crypt
cinder badger
Tetra Master actually used to be a PlayOnline title
real swift
and it was fairly expensive...considering you had to have an active FFXI sub, then had to pay an extra like what was it $2 a month? for tetra master
cinder badger
I thought it had a separate subscription fee
real swift
FFXI was a terribly designed mmo..I couldn't get a my character above level 20...because even the most basic enemies required a full party to kill
inner kite
More grinding you do, more addicted you get
kind lark
Buyer's remorse
cinder badger
@real swift I love Final Fantasy 11 and I never had a problem with it
real swift
I joined after the first expansion and way before the made it easier to party with people.
so I'd spend most of my time in a party finder trying to grind levels, some times waiting 2-3 days before i gave up and just stopped playing
and when I finally got to level 20 warrior, I couldn't find a group good enough to level grind with and ended up going back down to level 18.
cinder badger
You know how you change that
Make your own party
Don't wait for somebody to invite you just take initiative
real swift
Tried that, never got more than 2-3 people
cinder badger
I never had that problem and I was from Quetzalcoatl. It wasn't the most populated server
real swift
I started playing at a point where nobody was looking to level in that tier everyone was on to the new stuff.
Like, a damn crab, where if you examin it and it says "this creature isn't worth your time it's hardly a threat" can kick your ass when you try to solo it.
that should never have been a thing.
cinder badger
I joined the game just before Treasures of Aht Uhrgan came out
real swift
ooh and leveling down, who had that bright idea for the game.
cinder badger
That's how a lot of really old style MMOs were. They weren't for casuals you had to be pretty hardcore to play a game like Final Fantasy 11
real swift
WoW wasn't even that agonizing back then...at least you could level up solo and didn't require a party
cinder badger
Depended on your class. I picked up classic when it launched just to remember that priest couldn't do shit on its own
Same thing with shaman unless you were going enhancement
If you wanted to succeed on classic you might as well just played a mage. Root everything then blizzard. Plus everybody loves you because you had access to portals and water
But XI was my first real MMO so that was the standard by which I learned
And I played a Red Mage and everybody loved me
real swift
WoW was never that hard for me with it's solo content even back in vanilla or burning crusade..only problem I had with WoW was the toxic community it had.
cinder badger
Because I had access to refresh
real swift
See I think you got on XI after they implimented a level sync thing where people of higher levels could join your party and sync down to your level
real swift
cause in Rise of Zilart there was no level syncing mechanic, which is prolly why i could never find any one to party with, and actually level up
Like first 10 levels great, but trying to get to 11+ woof...so much time on that blinding ass beach killing crabs.
cinder badger
But I was really good at making parties and then when I made them I made sure to friend those people because you want to keep in touch and make friends with the people in the community
It wasn't one of those games where you run something with somebody and then you part ways never to see each other again you wanted to have as many friends as possible
real swift
and waiting endlessly to try and get 4 people to kill said crabs
cinder badger
Not like MMOs today were you just queue up in the Duty Finder speed run that dungeon and then move on to the next group
real swift
I dunno i've made a metric crap ton of friends with duty finder
cinder badger
Us being able to just casually chat with people during downtime healing up mp and such was a blast.
Again Final Fantasy XI wasn't for everyone but it didn't make it a bad game
real swift
Oh, i'm not saying it was over all a bad game. I just hated how hard it was to get further into it, to actually experience the game.
cinder badger
Yeah like I mentioned it cater to the more hardcore players
real swift
Also the leveling down...I hated that so damn much
I was so excited to hit level 20, and get to what was that town Yuno?
only to end up leveling down to 18 after that.
cinder badger
But it felt so rewarding when you got that pay off like my first artifact set
I don't get that same feeling from Final Fantasy XIV especially now they just kind of give it to you after 1 Quest
real swift
I'd give XI another chance if I could
I've seen they made changes to make it a bit easier to get further but i don't think it's worth that $14 a month
cinder badger
I actually play on a private server now when I get the chance to
It's set in Treasures of Aht Urgahn era stuff but they included level sync just for convenience-sake
I was working on Thief
That's really the reason why I wanted to go back to it what is because Thief existed lol
autumn heron
XI has been easy to get into since they introduced the trust system
Like 10 years ago
So evem if ur playing solo you wont just die to every mob
viscid monolith
XI was designed to waste your time at every possible moment
real swift
Yes it was.
cinder badger
It's not a waste of time if you're enjoying it
viscid monolith
And players gladly played it because they were dumb kids and could do their homework while they wait for a party or missed the ferry.
You could read a book while playing XI
cinder badger
Okay fuck you too
primal sundial
viscid monolith
The entire game moved at a snail's pace
real swift
you mean stand there staring angrily at a crab that if you did manage to kill it wouldn't give you any EXP and could nearly murder you in 2 attacks.
gaunt star
I think the melee dps job will be a scythe user but i dont think its going to be called necromancer. Theres alot of clues. Paladin is poster boy on 6.0 and zenos would be representing the opposite affinity. In 4.0 zenos showcased samurai as the melee job. In 5.4 zenos breaks his samurai sword saying he needs a new weapon. Whatever this new job is zenos will most likely be respresenting it and i dont think zenos would be wielding a hammer or a pirate/corsair weapon. And a scythe is very likely and obvious considering it would represent a dark/evil element opposing the warrior of lights good affinity for a epic showdown. Dont forget ranjit had a scythe too so its not out of question. And just becuz botanist uses a scythe doesnt mean they cant put a diff type of scythe into the game for combat jobs. There r many diff types of swords
cinder badger
@gaunt star technically derplander showcase Samurai
gaunt star
ehhh well he did use the samurai weapon tho
we know he gave up the samurai weapon. i cant picture zenos using anything else other than a scythe going forward tbh
empty moss
bc you are wrong
cinder badger
I think the reason why they gave Warrior a hammer weapon in shadowbringers was to dissuade people from asking for a hammer job
empty moss
everyone is over thinking
cinder badger
Basically saying " you guys wanted a hammer? There, Warrior gets a hammer."
I hope they actually design more hammers for the warrior so people have glamour options
empty moss
its will clearly be trickster
gaunt star
i just want a fun job that will replace my main from mch. i like mch but its not complex enuff and its dps is underwhelming compared to other jobs in the top 5-10%. and as of now i sadly dont enjoy much other jobs in the game other than drg
real swift
That doesn't feel like it'd be a melee DPS...I think it could be Templar, that is a support Melee DPS that uses auras to buff near by party members
empty moss
or they are reintroducing Sentinel
cinder badger
I just don't see why they would throw Templar in this particular expansion
gaunt star
i dont see templar
empty moss
or it could be Pilot
cinder badger
And then how exactly would Templar work mechanically that would separate it from Paladin or Dark Knight
gaunt star
templar doesnt even sound like a dps job
cinder badger
And what kind of weapon would it use because paladins have swords Dark Nights have great swords and dragons have Lance's
real swift
It'd be a support DPS gives haste and emboldens those in close range of the boss to deal more damage
cinder badger
But support DPS gravitate towards range DPS
gaunt star
oh god no more full support oriented jobs plz.....dancer ruined fflogs
empty moss
templar has no place in FF14
cinder badger
Melee DPS are supposed to be the Heavy Hitters
empty moss
if you want Templars play Crusader Kings
real swift
It could be a class that's not returning, but entirely new and exclusive to XIV
next marsh
corsair starting to make sense
empty moss
aether weaver
gaunt star
or a curveball none of us could expect to guess
cinder badger
@real swift I've said that before too because they wanted to create something completely original to the franchise
empty moss
Solder
real swift
It could be just simply called Reaper
empty moss
1st class
gaunt star
its an original class using scythe yay
i think its gonna wield a scythe tho thats my final guess. ill see if im right in may
cinder badger
@next marsh why does Corsair make sense
real swift
Well Yoshi P did wear 2 shirts, with grim reapers on them
gaunt star
we dont need another damn gun job
what does gun job have to do with melee class? 
kind lark
I'm team reaper
real swift
the one he had during the showcase had the words "I'll be there if you need me" Featured a reaper, and had neighborhood on the shirt, as well as hindu text, but i dunno what that said can't read it.
that shirt could be the biggest hint.
real swift
Yea no comment was a thing too lol
cinder badger
That text wasn't really Hindu
gaunt star
also they said necromancer too much for it to be necro
andd zenos will be the new job 
well originally no1 was even speculating melee jobs....ppl were so hellbent on a healer called chemist and a magic ranged
cinder badger
The "text" were the letters NBHD (Neighborhood)
tough fern
Necrooooooo
gaunt star
Necrooooooo
no
real swift
Scyth wielding, enfeebling Melee DPS
gaunt star
tough fern
On a side note there appears to be a weapon beside Zenos that appears to be the part of a scythe
gaunt star
itll be a scythe user and zenos will be using a scythe....what other weapon culd zenos use that would make sense. he forsoke his samurai playstyle
tough fern
gaunt star
it looks like the back of the top of a scythe tbh
cinder badger
@real swift why would they add something that provides debuffs when they just scrapped a whole bunch of effects from the other melee jobs
tough fern
Which leans towards Reaper
real swift
If they add Necromancer at any point it'll be a healer.
gaunt star
yeah
kind lark
On a side note there appears to be a weapon beside Zenos that appears to be the ...
Plenty of red lines drawn around that thing
gaunt star
yoshi p doesnt like the idea of the MC using that kind of power
tough fern
Zenos becoming a reaper makes sense
gaunt star
yep
tough fern
Given his love for slaughter
cinder badger
@gaunt star well then it can't be Templar because Templars were known to cause zombification
gaunt star
a dark affinity weapons "scythe" vs warrior of lights good afinity "paladin" for the final showdown. it makes perfect sense
gaunt star
<@456226577798135808> well then it can't be Templar because Templars were known ...
it wont be templar either
its either Reaper or an original job
i agree
its just people are too stuck up on the FF universe to think outside the box
much of the content in 6.0 seems original
kind lark
Too big for a scythe too small for a scythe, a hammer not a hammer. It turns out it was his walking stick
cinder badger
Also a scythe wouldn't be wholly original either
gaunt star
if it is reaper tho prepare for a massive game imbalance as most ppl will roll into that that play dps jobs.....scythes r infamous for being the most popular weapon choice
scythe no
the class yes
somber storm
Now what if Zenos ain't gonna be the new class
cinder badger
Since Final Fantasy XIV predecessor Final Fantasy XI had the Dark Knight wielding a scythe
tough fern
Now what if Zenos ain't gonna be the new class
He definitely will be but in the off chance he's not then....hmmm 
foggy coyote
I hope the other class is something 14 original, honestly.
cinder badger
They are not dividing tanks into off tank and Main tank
real swift
What if it plays like a reverse Red mage, starts off with a hard hitting melee combo then switches to a quick dark themed magical combo
somber storm
Aethersword class
open verge
severe brook
still betting on Reaper
cinder badger
I'm still going to say Warriors being removed as a tank and places it melee DPS because it sounds just as credible as everybody else's theories
open verge
Tanks are in good balance and you want to remove them?
real swift
I'm waiting for when we break the level 100 cap, and all our current soul crystals get upgraded.
gaunt star
i mean warrior is boring so they can remove it idc but generally speaking its not happening
open verge
If you remove a tank for being a dps why would you pick warrior and not gnb
gaunt star
unless the game gets some sort of large overhaul
kind lark
At 100 we'll get a mount for each job
autumn heron
Which it wont
open verge
That would be dope but I don’t see it
gaunt star
scythe
cinder badger
I said it as a joke because everybody keeps coming up with all these insane theories about the shirts so I said:
Yoshida changed his shirt in the middle of a segment and they implied that the new job will use maiming gear so Warrior will be moved from tank to melee DPS.
gaunt star
Which it wont
it can get one at the right time
autumn heron
To do thay there would be an even bigger lull in content then 2020
gaunt star
im not saying now
gaunt star
well the development got messed up thanks to covid so i have no expectations for the near future
real swift
OMG what if the class is called Void Knight, or has something related to the void sent
there's a ton of scythe wielding void sent
gaunt star
i just want it to be an original class simply using a scythe so i can rub it at ppls face at this point
gaunt star
if i wanted to use summons id play summoner
real swift
Look...clearly we're gonna be fighting a bunch of voidsent this expack...
gaunt star
its not voidsent..
real swift
the dungeon art for one of the new ones looks like the voidark.
foggy coyote
except we're not
gaunt star
Demon Hunter straight from WoW
most of the bosses we will fight will probably be creations like Lunar Bahamut
cinder badger
@real swift it's not mhachi
real swift
I also guarantee you that Anima is going to be related to the voidsent too
somber storm
Nioh 2 switch glaive
foggy coyote
i know that one Giger-ish place has voidsent vibes, but I think that's just Fandipshit being a Doomer with his aesthetic choices
gaunt star
anima is probably going to be a tower creation
cinder badger
@real swift this expansion is literally about reliving the end day there won't be any voidsent involved
kind lark
Fandaniel is anima
gaunt star
thats possible too 
real swift
and when I say it looks kinda like the void arch, I'm talking about the like gross growthy stuff on it
gaunt star
regardless we have moved past the voidsent
cinder badger
@inner kite I'm pretty sure we solve the mysteries of the Void sent after Mhach and CT
inner kite
Have you done the new quests in crystarium about saving 13th
gaunt star
Have you done the new quests in crystarium about saving 13th
wont happen b5 6.1
real swift
I still need to get a melee DPS to 80 to do that.
gaunt star
b4**
kind lark
How about if the raid is placed in the void?
gaunt star
could be
foggy coyote
Well, it's not like it's us doing the saving. Unukhalhai wants to do it. We don't have to help him.
inner kite
wont happen b5 6.1
Well we don't know
cinder badger
@kind lark we already had a raid that went to the void
gaunt star
fandaniel triggered them in 6.0
cinder badger
It was called the world of Darkness
kind lark
<@240784825244581888> we already had a raid that went to the void
How we just go there again?
inner kite
What if pandaemonium is void
gaunt star
<@240784825244581888> we already had a raid that went to the void
now people are obsessed with savin it after Unukulhai mentioned he wants to try
probably not
Panda is probably related to getting rid of lahees creations
inner kite
Ok remember what you said cya in 6+ months
gaunt star
kind lark
Shortening of Pandemonium should totally be Panda
gaunt star
i say what i notice from the story
cinder badger
Ooooh will we get to fight Ifrita?
cinder badger
Ifrita is one of Laha's creations
real swift
Could it be the whole moon related thing, could be that what ever monsters caused the final days came from the moon?
tiny wind
what kind of bread is lahabread
gaunt star
toxic
real swift
Stale
cinder badger
We fought him for grapes
tiny wind
kind lark
Crusty
inner kite
In my opinion Primals in general are some messed up concepts that ended up in lifestream
gaunt star
primals were creatted by the ancients so
inner kite
There was a talk about seal on silverlake tear or smth
real swift
Yea but they made creatures weaker than primals just for fun though.
gaunt star
yeah
inner kite
And bahamut realeasing it
gaunt star
but i wouldnt call it a mystery
real swift
They didn't start making powerful and dangerous primals until the threat of the worlds end came.
gaunt star
maybe theres more to it than bahamut
inner kite
For sure there is
real swift
and then some of the monsters that caused the final days were things they created from lack of control, due to their own fears and emotional state
real swift
maybe?
I wonder though if there is something more powerful out there that invaded their world and thus caused them to create Zodiark and Hydaelyn
cause kinda looking at it... there are some similar traits to Lunar Bahamut and Therion the final boss of Amaurot
Mainly the weird spirally horns close to its wings, and the purple coloring
gaunt star
ye probably they are similarly creatted monsters
Well they were products of a "noise" so
Cthonic bosses incoming?
Yog sothoth when?
maiden lodge
They didn't start making powerful and dangerous primals until the threat of the ...
Being resistant to the worst part of a primal is also a factor
They could be summoning lakshmis and ifirits and titans left right and center, and them firing their tempering aether blooshes all over the place and people going 'Oh look, it's cute'
royal spruce
I might get a couple of those sweet t-shirts next month
I think I would get eyeballs on me if I walked around with the sin eater shirt
brisk quail
royal spruce
You got to love t-shirts like that the kind of t-shirts you buy in you only wear at your house
I would love to get shirts though with some of my favourite anime characters but I wouldn't be able to walk around town wearing that
woeful dagger
Sure you could. Fuck em if they don't like it
gaunt star
One message removed from a suspended account.
woeful dagger
They'll meme it and he'll say "So much..."
Then Alisaie cuts him off "Destruction!"
brisk quail
So much... Depredation/destruction/ruin
gaunt star
One message removed from a suspended account.
brisk quail
This must have not been the orignal goal of the garleans
maiden lodge
this level of ruination did not match the original intent for which I had started
brisk quail
This current situation is filled with many miscalculations refering to the extent of power that which I have unleashed. This will and has hampered the battle efficacy of my troop and the garlean foothold in Thanalan. This was not accounted for and will now serve as a hinderance to my orignal plans; being of ancient power and harbringer of strife and discord, we shall discuss this situation later under better terms as soon as mine enemies lie broken before me. Now prepare for a reckoning.
inner kite
Gaius memoirs
teal geyser
They'll meme it and he'll say "So much..."
Then Alisaie cuts him off "Destructi...
It'll be fate description
woven escarp
pray destroy the waking sands
kind lark
Lahabrea's last horcrux is in the waking sands
woeful dagger
It'll be fate description
I never knew how much I needed Garlemald as a leveling zone til now
gaunt star
Instead of another big city that will become a ghost town once the expansion is over I’d rather they make another leveling/eureka zone
woven escarp
yeah, I don't know why they do the two town thing when one of them is a huge waste
mighty light
So excited for Pandaemonium
Right now genuinely looking forward to it more than Endwalker itself
half phoenix
One small detail i’d personally liked explained is why we see Hydaelyn and Zodiark as massive crystals XD
heady shadow
imagery maybe?
inner kite
Crystals are main theme of ff
teal geyser
Crystals are main theme of ff
Yeah but I assume Rakarrak's point is, they weren't crystals at the start
seemingly
So why are they now, aside from classic FF
heady shadow
maybe they dont want us to see that they are joined at the hip
urban turret
wait
something very important has been forgotten about
what cool outfit will Tataru make us
kind lark
I'll get the obvious out of the way, she'll make us a astronaut suit
heady shadow
it'll be our ancient costume
royal spruce
Man I remember when the Maelstrom what's the best place for PVP
drowsy belfry
So I'm pretty sure it's confirmed by other people now but
18/18 is a one time thing
digital forge
yup
drowsy belfry
Don't need to do it for your 2nd weapon
So dooooope
Also grats to the Savage clearers on Balmung
Just saw some Cerberus mounts running around
worn forge
now that people have discovered hidden tech in the new essences, things should go a bit smoother than expected
like CureIV+Elder= 1min long Bravery aoe
pulsar yacht
yeah rezbot-tank sounds pretty nice (pure indom+sac = no doom for using sac)
worn forge
also for some healers, you can opt to just stack Arises
since iirc they have a nat 10% chance in Savage
pulsar yacht
kinda a weird combo since the pure healer one just makes arise rng working in DRsavage
worn forge
so just throw it all at the wall and see if it sticks
I’m pleasantly surprised at the depth they made on these
it’s no longer BA days where post-pull healers just keep applying spirits and whatever the hecc they brought in
pulsar yacht
would rather forget that (sacc rng)
rough geyser
tempered
worn forge
ye Hedge
drowsy belfry
what's some of the other new tech
worn forge
thats the only one I know atm but there’s def more
drowsy belfry
That's kinda really cool tho
worn forge
maybe there’s a list out there, lemmie dig
digital forge
gambler will give 100% good effects on dice
pulsar yacht
Indomitable + Sacrifice = No doom sac
Fiendhunter + Cure II = Slow for mp regen
Elder + Cure IV = AoE bravery
Divinity + Arise = Chance to raise```Ooooh
worn forge
these are pretty neat
fringe vessel
I can’t wait until endwalker comes out. Though I haven’t got to shadowbringer yet.
digital forge
endwalker brainworms are in
kind lark
spoilers are abundant in here for shb
brisk quail
```Duelist + Honored Sacrifice = Buffed H. Sac
Indomitable + Sacrifice = No doom...
Bruh. Why isnt this pinned?
inner kite
it'll be our ancient costume
Take my money
random ravine
the next melee class is going to use nunchunks
fringe adder
Is msq roullete viable if you could grind
bozjan instead?
oh whoops wrong channel
drowsy belfry
It's extra exp/potentially 70% of a level so
brisk quail
Yeah it's like 20-45 minutes for like 3/4ths of a level
It's a VERY good value if you have time
woeful dagger
Bruh. Why isnt this pinned?
Well this wouldn't be the channel for it
digital forge
Light Rampant 3
brisk quail
Light Rampant 3
Light Rampart -4
digital forge
Light Rampant XIV
forest magnet
Rampant's 14
severe brook
Lunar Rampant
inner kite
Light Bahamut Lunar Rampant
gaunt star
Spell in waiting rampant
static spire
Can't wait for them to release the endwalker theme
gaunt star
Can't wait for them to release the endwalker theme
"Eeeeeeeaaaaeeeeeaaaa"
static spire
"Eeeeeeeaaaaeeeeeaaaa"
EXACTLYYYY
static spire
Its not the sammeeeeee
eager mica
It's like the Sephirot theme all over!
(Not that the Sephirot theme is is really a full on copy of the Powerman 5,000 song, but the verses man... Soken was definity influnced.)
maiden lodge
(Not that the Sephirot theme is is really a full on copy of the Powerman 5,000 s...
by generic industrial. When Worlds Collide isn't exactly innovative in its own genre.
I've flailed my arms and shaken my asscheeks too much at tattooed rivetgirls and gofflings in poorly lit nightclubs in my youth to not hear a little everything in it.
eager mica
Its pretty damned close
Like I said... The verses are pretty damn close. The rest goes on its own.
eager mica
I've flailed my arms and shaken my asscheeks too much at tattooed rivetgirls and...
I sometimes miss my goth club days.
maiden lodge
Like I said... The verses are pretty damn close. The rest goes on its own.
In that it follows a typical grunge progression of soft soft soft heavy heavy heavy but that's about it
unique verge
I've flailed my arms and shaken my asscheeks too much at tattooed rivetgirls and...
Are you me?
lol
maiden lodge
Ah the days of trying for find that Adult. song you heard and trying NOT to find porn
'No no this is not what I asked for'
'Fuck it I'll download Voltaire'
Pandaemonium logo is cool, with the M being the bottom of Lahabrea's mask
dim sigil
Panda
proven iron
I still cant figure out what they could possibly call the scythe job
floral aurora
Reaper?
pulsar yacht
reaper, harvester umm
dim sigil
Reaper RPR
pulsar yacht
I'm having trouble thinking of mechanically how either a reaper like job would work (what skills it would use beyone the 1-2-3 combo) or a templar style job with ethnic sword sword
under the assumption it used drg left side
dim sigil
Also the sage music is very Jazzy it's reminds me of amaruot its gonna be used for another ancient dungeon
floral aurora
I'm having trouble thinking of mechanically how either a reaper like job would w...
I really think this new melee job won't have Positionals but will have a different priority system for its rotation
dim sigil
Somebody said something about how melees are about resources and what if they make this new melee about stages like Summoner
inner kite
I'm having trouble thinking of mechanically how either a reaper like job would w...
Ranjit
floral aurora
The music is awesome! Can't wait to hear more
floral aurora
Somebody said something about how melees are about resources and what if they ma...
Real curious about all the Monk changes. Really hope its a Tifa Monk
dim sigil
Tifa has positionals to tho
floral aurora
Yep but its way more fun
pulsar yacht
my hopes for xenogears style deathblows were killed off by 5.4 so maybe that?
rough kestrel
People always say Ranjit but he was like... a Monk
floral aurora
Just sucks we won't get like a Media Tour/Job action trailer until like August maybe
rough kestrel
I dont even remember him using a Scythe
rough kestrel
Which was Maiming gear
inner kite
Ditto
pulsar yacht
same
rough kestrel
Imagine if it became the Monk of Maiming, ruining Dragoon fashion forever onwards
dim sigil
floral aurora
I honestly hope all old jobs get more rework
Seems like new jobs are always awesome at launch
Minus HW new jobs
vapid cape
I want to make an Azwel cosplay with sage. Using the HoH or PoTD weapons
viscid monolith
Ranjit had a familiar made from his own aether that he could combine with
vapid cape
Amaurot couldve been perfect for a deep dungeon imo
floral aurora
I hope we get a new one in Endwalker
Only this time I hope they make it more arcadish
gaunt star
Yeah I want a new deep dungeon too 
inner kite
Don't think we'll get one with rona and everything
gaunt star
For 6.0?
inner kite
Yeah
gaunt star
I feel like we just wouldn’t get one cuz they don’t want to do them anymore
I feel like they’re just going to do another bozja
inner kite
It's quite resource straining for them to make one
inner kite
Bozja is like boring version of eureka for me, would prefer a deep dungeon 100%
gloomy shale
What primal is coming in 5.5?
gloomy shale
yeah ex
lunar hound
Diamond Weapon is 5.5
gloomy shale
the final weapon?
lunar hound
yes
inner kite
Zenos data
floral aurora
What primal is coming in 5.5?
I'm actually glad because Omega Ultimate...idk the Omega raids weren't all that great compared to Alexander imo
dim sigil
Whens the last time we even had a primal
gloomy shale
Yeah ALex was pretty epic
heady shadow
omega raids seemed better then ||eden||
dim sigil
Sos i gues
gloomy shale
I'm guessing the gwiber mount is gonna be white?
heady shadow
at least the ||O12 ||
floral aurora
Honestly I wouldn't mind they just take bosses from 24 raids instead of omega raids
heady shadow
you still got weekly quests for nier after this so
floral aurora
I understand people not enjoying the story but the raid itself is a lot fun imo
spiral wagon
floral aurora
Unless Ishgard housing has lots of snow I'm not worried about gil xD
cinder badger
Tell everybody keeps pointing out that shot of the warrior of light and his shoulder looking like a dwarf
cinder badger
But what if it is a mammet or an automaton?
cinder badger
Melee job Puppetmaster
woeful dagger
@teal geyser https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/233672177227005956/808806591868305438/Screenshot_20210209-155154_Twitter.png
paper hill
Can i use WoL beard on Midlanders? 
cinder badger
I just have a real bad feeling about Datacenter travel
signal solar
Can i use WoL beard on Midlanders? <:namazuconcern:685268305275256852>
not yet
cinder badger
It's funny you call it a beard
inner kite
It will become a beard, given time
cinder badger
Yes in time it will become a beard but that is no beard right now
inner kite
It's a beardling
floral aurora
Facial hair vs no facial hair. Hmmm for our guy I vote facial hair
cinder badger
When I stroke the beard thusly
inner kite
Wish we could have daddy ramuh's beard
rough kestrel
We've had an entire expansion now
Where they've been aware people want the WoL stubble
It's time Yoshi, 6.0, WoL stubble.
Replace the chin strap if you have to
unique verge
If they would give proper facial hair to the male character creation options, maybe i'd consider playing one
lol
cinder badger
dim sigil
Me knowing you alreadly can have a beard with the santa outfit
cinder badger
A fine full dignified beard.
One that commands respect and projects thoughtfulness and dignity
When I stroke the beard thusly do I not appear more intellectual
rough kestrel
The stubble from the SHB trailers is in the game
They duplicated Hyur face 5 for WoL and replaced the Chin beard with the stubble, it's like Face 248 or something.
It has all the other optional face options for Face 5 as well, the stubble changes color with hair and it can be turned on/off like other face options.
The only reason that I can see for us not having it currently is that they don't know how to add new face options to existing faces.
rough kestrel
Yeah, nobody likes the chin beard over the stubble, and no one would use the pedo stache
Atleast I'd hope not
obsidian pagoda
You trust the human race far better than I do @rough kestrel
cinder badger
What he needs is a full dignified beard
obsidian pagoda
Ramuh beard or gtfo
cinder badger
And an emote so he can stroke the beard thusly
obsidian pagoda
If they can also add like Ran'jit's Asian beard or something that would be ok too
cinder badger
You mean a fu manchu?
gaunt star
His is an entire model we’re not getting that one
obsidian pagoda
We have gotten NPC hair before so plsss
Alternatively a really long beard so I can cosplay Guan Yu with a Highlander
inner kite
Beard braids
cinder badger
Ranjit was a Highlander
inner kite
On lala
cinder badger
So we wouldn't get that kind of hair on a midlander
inner kite
I want to cosplay thorin
obsidian pagoda
You can resize models before you implement them... but Midlander doesn't look exotic enough yes
wind bough
Highlanders have a similar option already
obsidian pagoda
tbh I was expecting to get an old man trope character like this when we went to Doma 
serene crest
Does Ran’jit count? 😅
floral aurora
WoL fall before Zodiark as nothing they do work against Zodiark
Hyda: This is the last time I can assist you WoL. I reveal Zodiark's true form
"Zodiark transforms"
A horrendous monster appears
Hyda: Good luck WoL
obsidian pagoda
He's like the only one tho, and the First equivalent of Doma is like ded ded
kind lark
A quick shout-out to Soken
obsidian pagoda
Will we get a canon wedding?
heady shadow
inb4 hes a Hunk of muscles
floral aurora
Would be shocked if we get a romance option lol
Doubt they will give us a Persona feature
obsidian pagoda
I would take NPC weddings too
I feel like after multiple wars and conflict, someone should probably get hitched and be happy
woeful dagger
If they would give proper facial hair to the male character creation options, ma...
The Hrothgar mustache disturbs me
cinder badger
They have mustaches?
balmy mesa
yes
obsidian pagoda
more like overgrown whiskers
gaunt star
Twitter
balmy mesa
then there was that guy at Bozja
inner kite
parthenogenesis
inner kite
Asexual reproduction
gaunt star
craggy pawn
Mitosis
cinder badger
You know the devs 10 to avoid any discussions on reproduction in their game
Because they've been asked before about the different races crossbreeding which was weird
lilac crest
lilac crest
lalafells on the otherhand get planted on the ground and they grow up to be bigger potatoes
obsidian pagoda
Because they've been asked before about the different races crossbreeding which ...
I think they just said that the main races were compatible with one another and then left the chat
lilac crest
woeful dagger
You know the devs 10 to avoid any discussions on reproduction in their game
Really? Cause SE sure as shit wrote extremely detailed reproduction lore about Sunseekers so weird furries can erp as harem masters.
cinder badger
@obsidian pagoda they said they were cultural reasons why the races wouldn't intermingle like that
obsidian pagoda
<@108847493491527680> they said they were cultural reasons why the races wouldn'...
There is, but in terms of strictly biology they are compatible. The hung ups are all society
cinder badger
Maybe the Hrothgar are like the Galka
rough kestrel
The hangs up are the Ratings board
cinder badger
Reborn through a form of reincarnation
inner kite
Budding
cinder badger
The femroe is probably placeholder for Queen because they know in their heart of hearts if they make even one female model for that race the entire Community will breathe down their necks
rough kestrel
I mean figure you're just suppose to extrapolate that female hrothgar do exist even if you dont see them and they breed like any other race, by ||Praying for a stork to bring a child||
Usually these things dont need confirmed answers because you should just assume everything in Eorzea fucks
And leave it at that
cinder badger
Maybe they're like the Gerudo from Legend of Zelda
inner kite
Cabbage patch
rough kestrel
that one miqote in Thanalan has like an entire village of catgirls to himself
cinder badger
Originally Gerudo were only female with a male being born once every hundred years they reproduce by mating with other Hylians outside of their village in an Amazonish fashion.
rough kestrel
That seems highly impractical from an evolutionary standpoint
cinder badger
You're forgetting that this is a fantasy world and that your real-world logic has no place in it
rough kestrel
I can accept it as a thing in the context of "There use to be alot more dudes but the race has mostly died out, so this is how we get our jollies now"
inner kite
Considering what's happening to y chromosome, it quite possible future
rough kestrel
inner kite
We'll wipe each other out before that
cinder badger
Maybe we can find a Hrothgar irl and ask him how they breed and reproduce
white rose
It just happens
cinder badger
Yeah this conversation about the Hrothgar and reproduction seems dangerously close to, if not already into, furry territory.
kind lark
It's a hairy situation
cinder badger
Yoshida: Breathes
FFXIV: WEN MALE BUNNY?
cinder badger
To represent the prison Yoshida put himself in?
kind lark
No one has thyme for that
white rose
I wonder how sage's LB3 look.
cinder badger
It probably won't involve the Nouliths
gaunt star
gaunt star
kind lark
@gaunt star what's that fourth one?
ornate nacelle
So I'm flying in Mor Dhona and is this orange globe the ship in the endwalker trailer?
gaunt star
<@456226577798135808> what's that fourth one?
1.0 Ascian
white rose
Since we know endwalkers will prob have ff4 references, the real question is
Are the twins going to be turned to stone?
kind lark
oh god somehow they were edgy.
cinder badger
@white rose no but they're going to get stoned
gaunt star
inner kite
They are in every intro
kind lark
all of them
cinder badger
@rough kestrel wherever you are they are
inner kite
Yeah and that merchant dude and his brothers
cinder badger
I was destined to meet Alisaie
rough kestrel
Yeah thats why I originally was like "They're gonna turn out to be part of you like the DRK storyline, only more long term" because we never saw them in CG until now
woeful dagger
Oh hmm
the Scions you meet changes depending on City though
Lyse/Dead Idiot are Gridania. Thancred is Ul'dah.
cinder badger
Funny how you call him idiot when he was probably the smartest of the bunch
rough kestrel
I thought you were calling Lyse dead idiot
cinder badger
He was Louisouix's protoge
rough kestrel
I forgot papalymo existed
cinder badger
I mean he died doing exactly the same thing louisoix did
inner kite
He had a crush on lyse
rough kestrel
All I remember of Papalymo now is his 1.x animations
somber storm
Oh yeah, merchant brothers
cinder badger
Imagine if he hadn't of intervened and bought the other Scions time to combat an Elder Primal level threat
real swift
thinking about it...yeeeah the Scion's haven't mentioned much of Papalymo since he sacrificed him self...like they've talked more of moenbryda than papalymo, and he died trying to protect everyone.
cinder badger
You know Google is full of ass
inner kite
Imagine if he hadn't of intervened and bought the other Scions time to combat an...
Wol would have an extreme trial. And zenos would be sad
cinder badger
How can it not tell Scions from "Saiyans"?
teal geyser
thinking about it...yeeeah the Scion's haven't mentioned much of Papalymo since ...
Lyse mentioned him a billion times in Stormblood to be fair
real swift
Yea, but that's Lyse...everyone else seems to at this point forget he existed.
teal geyser
I don't even remember anyone talking about Moenbryda past HW
oh maybe when they talked about the white auracite
okay
inner kite
They did once i think
somber storm
Urianger definitely
kind lark
Urianger is crying in the corner
woeful dagger
Oh maybe that reference by Shtola was Moenbryda and not Pap lmao
cinder badger
@inner kite Shinryu would have blown up half the world right there and then. Papalyamo bought them time to plan a way to combat it. Absolutely nobody was ready for Bahamut when it was at full strength
Which is why the Calamity happened
inner kite
Oh well ultimate trial
rough kestrel
Meonbryda has come up a few times
I only know because I go
"Who?" everytime
And google her name
cinder badger
@Arcadis#4287 so how come the Warrior of light couldn't fight a fully powered Bahamut to prevent the 7th umbral calamity?
inner kite
I think they just got rid of annoying character and death is ideal emotion baiting aka profit making
Like haurchefant
woeful dagger
@Arcadis#4287 so how come the Warrior of light couldn't fight a fully powered Ba...
That wasn't the WoL in 1.0 was it
Or maybe it's because not enough pieces of Azem had rejoined
rough kestrel
The issue was they werent prepared
The bahamut we fight in Coils is not the same as that thing rampaging
But that is the WoL, poster boy is a legacy player.
cinder badger
The goal was to make shinryu a bahmut level threat, meaning something that the WoL could not just walk up and fight. By the time you even fight shinryu in stormblood it's already weakened by its fight with Omega
inner kite
True but merged with zenoose
woeful dagger
Meanwhile we're about to go punch an elder primal in the face on the Moon
cinder badger
And we just kicked the crap out of zenos beforehand
Yeah by possibly merging with another Elder primal
inner kite
Mecha elder primal fight
cinder badger
We don't know exactly how the warrior of light is going to fight either of them
inner kite
Godzilla vs king kong
gaunt star
mechagodzilla sucks 
errant coral
Godzilla vs king kong
Godzilla and king kong fused!
cinder badger
Either we merge with one to fight the other or we become fully restored as Azem, Defender of Grapes, and smack both.
inner kite
With grapes
gaunt star
inb4 we merge with zodiark and zenos hydaelyn
errant coral
inb4 we merge with zodiark and zenos hydaelyn
that would be interesting.
real swift
inb4 there is not merging with an elder primal, and we end up fighting both hydaelyn and zodiark fused together
gaunt star
cinder badger
It would actually make sense too
gaunt star
inb4 they had both already died
inner kite
inb4 there is not merging with an elder primal, and we end up fighting both hyda...
Oh fuck
cinder badger
Zodiark is the original Will of their star. The purpose of its summoning was to protect itself (the star) by rewriting the laws.
Hydaelyn's purpose was simply to oppose that will by sundering Zodiark and by extention the entire star.
gaunt star
cinder badger
Both sides believe what they're doing is the right thing. But they could both be equally wrong
onyx sundial
In typical smt/ff fashion
cinder badger
Which would be why Azem chose neither side.
cinder badger
Because neither side thought about the benefit of grapes
onyx sundial
No
inner kite
Sounds like new pokemon
gaunt star
:^)
moonshaunted.jpg
shitposting aside, Hydaelyn will fade naturally at this point. shes exhausted. Zodiark is going to be the real fight.... IF he wants to fight us. I suspect that wont be the case
cinder badger
@onyx sundial hard to dye accessories if they get removed later on
onyx sundial
Well earrings, rings, wrists are staying
gaunt star
Gaius Zos Baelsar when? also im down for more acc
cinder badger
For now
onyx sundial
And yoship did say that theyre staying cause fashion
gaunt star
they looked at it yes.
gaunt star
i personally feel we only need one ring slot but as long as we get those extra ring slots im good
im almost always out of space because im to lazy to level everything
cinder badger
I just Glam the emperor's new ring because the Rings look stupid
inner kite
Also it's annoying when you get that special ring which you can only have one of
gaunt star
i flex the platinum band baby OwO
onyx sundial
So its really not going anywhere really
gaunt star
cinder badger
How about putting the rings on your ring finger instead of your index finger like a five year old with a Ring Pop
cinder badger
Okay apparently there's a kind of symbolism involved with having the ring on your index finger
It still doesn't make it any less silly imo but here it is
The pointer or index finger represents leadership, authority and self-esteem. A ring on the index finger on the active hand reflects confidence, self-esteem, and leadership qualities. At the same time, wearing a finger ring on the index finger of the passive hand indicates acceptance of leadership from people around.
But then if you have a ring on both index fingers how does that work?
wet crown
Unlimited Power
inner kite
They balance each other out
cinder badger
So you are a leader and a follower all at the same time?
inner kite
You're neutral
cinder badger
You are indifferent
dim sigil
More wepon slots is a godsend
cinder badger
The only thing that matters is grapes
inner kite
Bacchus grapes
balmy mesa
g r a p e s
drowsy ivy
Just wear it where ever who cares
Ingame is on the same finger bc it's easier
balmy mesa
it's probably easier for them to keep it in one place also - hands are a pain to animate
cinder badger
If the grapes are really that good on a sundered star imagine how they taste if the world was fully rejoined
balmy mesa
Warrior of Grapes
inner kite
We need grape crystals, elder primal grape crystals
cinder badger
How come nobody's ever asked Yoshida about the whole grape thing
Like it just sounds like a pretty selfish reason to risk summoning a primal
inner kite
They didn't think much of primals at the time
cinder badger
"You could have died or caused more damage than the eruption would have."
"...I was hungry."
inner kite
I think azem just used grapes as an excuse to save the village
cinder badger
Actually that sounds like a very Goku thing
Goku would risk it all for food
Because you know those Saiyans eat a LOT
dim sigil
They prob need a lot of energy given how big they were
inner kite
What if azem is like goku, half alien half ancient( actually goku is 100% saiyan -.-)
dim sigil
Shes a strong alien
cinder badger
Azem is supposed to be "unique" for an ancient.
forest magnet
Unique for a convocation member
cinder badger
All the other ancients are content with just watching the world pass them by, Azem prefers actually doing shit
forest magnet
I'm pretty sure being willing to help others is not a trait limited to just Azem
like you know
Azem's friends
cinder badger
The way Emet spoke about their people it seems there were very little differences between them.
inner kite
Smth like communist system
cinder badger
They just didn't fight over anything and preferred to discuss and debate and come to consensus but very seldom take action.
forest magnet
well that's the point of a post scarcity society
nothing to argue over
because there's plenty of everything
cinder badger
Which is probably why Azem took to traveling the world outside of Amaurot
forest magnet
it's like Star Trek
cinder badger
Because maybe people in other parts of the world had different ways of thinking
And Azem was curious
I still think Emet was speaking more of the Ancients on Amaurot, not the world as a whole.
inner kite
Yup ppl lived in villages too
cinder badger
Remember the one Quest where you took part in a debate between two ancients
forest magnet
what point are u trying to make
cinder badger
The debate was over either offering Aid to a neighboring Nation across the sea or to remain isolated and mind their own business
I'm just curious about what other parts of the world were like in the unsundered version of the star. What made Azem that "breath of fresh air" to the Convocation that they clearly couldn't see in any other among their people.
forest magnet
It's not that Azem was a breath of fresh air
Azem was designed to be that way
like Hythlo said in 5.3
that was the responsibility of that office
not what Azem decided to do
inner kite
Azem was supposed to not intervene
forest magnet
?
inner kite
Just scout
forest magnet
inner kite
Azem did many things contrary to what they were told to do, so I believe that "freshness" came out of their personality not out of functions of their office
forest magnet
cinder badger
As the seats on the Convocation were given to those best suited for the roles they represent, this implies that Azem had a bit of wanderlust, was generally a helpful person and was gifted in combat. They preferred to solve the problems they were to encounter by their own hand, rather than referring it to their colleagues in the Convocation, and more often than not gathered friends and allies from the local area to assist them.
obsidian pagoda
he definitely tried to solve the world's problems
forest magnet
Seems like helping others was in line with with duties of the office
so
idk where you're getting that non-interventionist thing from
inner kite
We don't get any detailed info about duties of their office except for "gaining knowledge of wider world", we get info about what they did. Which may or may not be the same. It's my own speculation based on Amaurot lore so far that they were closed up society, and azem's job was gathering info without intervening
obsidian pagoda
From the short story, Emet and Elidibus didn't seem to care much that he tried to stop the volcano, only that the reason for it was kinda dumb lol
cinder badger
The convocation preferred to just watch the events of the volcano eruption unfold. Azem however chose to take action to prevent it because of tasty grapes that grew in that area
An action that Emet was disappointed with.
forest magnet
Fake
unborn lantern
forest magnet
Don't post that
unborn lantern
it's for laughs
forest magnet
It's literally them just running around OOB in the moon zone that already exists in game
forest magnet
maybe you need to find better jokes
unborn lantern
or you need to get better humour
cinder badger
@forest magnet if you can't read the description and not tell that it was meant as a joke...
Datamined by my cousin's Uncle whose dog works at Nintendo
unborn lantern
all jokes aside.. this is a pretty neat glitch
inner kite
unborn lantern
inner kite
Zodiark glyph and statue
cinder badger
@obsidian pagoda Elidibus didn't have issues with Azems reasoning, he actually admired Azem.
unborn lantern
I'm only wondering how we'll be able to breathe on the moon
forest magnet
because he was a kid
forest magnet
I'm only wondering how we'll be able to breathe on the moon
they said there's air on the moon
problem solved
unborn lantern
oh, cools
cinder badger
Elidibus was a kid who thought Azem was cool and wanted to be just like them.
forest magnet
what Elidibus' qualification is i don't even know
that's the biggest question is
why tf they put a kid on the convocation
cinder badger
He was a little man with a big heart Maybe
cinder badger
But it is said the convocation doesn't just slap people in a seat without any reason they usually have something in their personality that qualifies them for the position
obsidian pagoda
<@108847493491527680> Elidibus didn't have issues with Azems reasoning, he actua...
He was too young to know any better and Emet didn't have the heart to tell Elidibus that Azem sometimes did dumb things
cinder badger
Which is why Azem got the seat they did. It's implied they had a bit of Wanderlust
obsidian pagoda
Maybe Eli was really good at PR, being an emissary and all
forest magnet
He was too young to know any better and Emet didn't have the heart to tell Elidi...
which again,
why was he on there to begin with
couldn't they get someone older
cinder badger
But he wasn't the way he was because it was his station he was put on his station because of the way he was
forest magnet
definitely not a kid genius
unborn lantern
Bigger mystery is why is his robe different from everyone else! 
forest magnet
i don't think
inner kite
What do you think then
obsidian pagoda
Bigger mystery is why is his robe different from everyone else! <a:CapooTantrum:...
Cause his Emissary office always has the white robe
cinder badger
It had nothing to do with Duty it had everything to do with who he was and how he did things
obsidian pagoda
that's just his uniform
unborn lantern
Hmm..
inner kite
Perhaps something to do with kids naivity and affinity towards goodness, but then they could have chosen any kiddo
unborn lantern
The end was coming, and almost everyones dead.. so they chose whoever they could find and it happened to be elidibus
cinder badger
Elidibus was Emissary. So something about him.
Wasn't it Azem who was actually concerned that Elidibus was too young for a seat?
unborn lantern
not to mention short
inner kite
Think it was implied someone was, but they never stated who
inner kite
Wasnt logrif supposed to be zodiark's heart ? Speaker's office was unrelated function
Or did I miss something
cinder badger
It's never actually said he was a child just that he was the youngest in the convocation so they refer to him as youth or young man
Given that ancients for practically immortal and we don't understand how their aging works we don't know exactly what is considered a "child"
inner kite
Considering how tiny he is after wol trial don't believe he had many years under his belt
forest magnet
relatively speaking
cinder badger
Again we don't understand how their aging process works
inner kite
True
cinder badger
It could be that to them 500 years old is still a kid
inner kite
Wol size is considered a child tho lol
obsidian pagoda
well yeah cause they're all like 3x our height, or x10 if you're a Lala
craggy gale
inner kite
Eli is smaller than most wol races so he's a kid probs
cinder badger
But again he might have that size but he might still be 100 years old
inner kite
*sorry was a kid
cinder badger
So yes in their mind he's a kid but you would still have a hundred years of experience
inner kite
Certainly ascian eli has thousands of years already
forest magnet
he still has the naiveity of a kid
obsidian pagoda
Ascian Eli? I wouldn't say that
cinder badger
It says "Elidibus earned his peers' respect despite their initial impression of him, Elidibus tending to overwork himself and seeming too kind for his position."
forest magnet
he was an Azem stan
to the point where he literally LARP'd as us
for the final battle
obsidian pagoda
Ascian Eli isn't really naive, but he has degrading memory and kinda gets really unstable towards the end
cinder badger
He admired all the other members of the convocation
forest magnet
He admired us the most tho
obsidian pagoda
Elidibus is most definitely an Ascian
cinder badger
Emet found it both endearing and embarrassing
obsidian pagoda
Basically they just cringe cause Eli is the youngest and does young people things like looking up to his seniors
cinder badger
Loghrif was supposed to be the first Sacrifice, Zodiarks heart
unborn lantern
maybe ancients, amourotians age differently?
forest magnet
they're immortal
So
for the sake of comparison
we'll compare them to Dragons
who take a few centuries to come of age
cinder badger
There's examples in all sorts of Games books and TV
inner kite
they're immortal
They can live" nigh for eternity". Pretty damn long but not immortal
gaunt star
Elidibus in the JP text is referred to with a term that specifically means young man as opposed to actual child/adolescent
He's still way younger/less experienced than the rest but not an actual child
More like a grad student being put on a UN council or something
inner kite
So he was short, since wol who is taller than him gets to be called a child
cinder badger
@gaunt star correct
@inner kite no different than a 40 year old still calling a 20 year old "kid"
inner kite
Or perhaps it's a matter of localization/translation
inner kite
<@665929055543099413> no different than a 40 year old still calling a 20 year ol...
Yeah you'd def offer a 20yr to go search for their parents
cinder badger
Maybe that was their way
gaunt star
I don't think Elidibus as he appears after being given the mega-yeet at the top of CT should be taken as an accurate depiction of his actual appearance
cinder badger
@gaunt star that could also be a possibility
inner kite
Emet stayed the same size curiously
obsidian pagoda
Is it more that he's the size of a hyur youth cause that was the last form he took?
cinder badger
Also he was on his knees when we knelt down before him so maybe he looks different when standing upright
gaunt star
He's also portrayed as sort of a foil for G'raha, who is 24 at the time of the CT raids
inner kite
Also he was on his knees when we knelt down before him so maybe he looks differe...
Unless there are 3 lala and a stool under that hood ,nope
unborn lantern
i would had punched the tiny ghost elidibus
cinder badger
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cinder badger
A young man
unborn lantern
inner kite
Is a boy a younger man ?
cinder badger
No he's a boy
gaunt star
A boy is a younger young man
unborn lantern
it would had been more impactful if they used a kids voice aswell
because a kid with a deep voice
is sus
inner kite
Ok elidibus is younger young man
cinder badger
Get my axe boy
unborn lantern
i'd cry 10x harder
inner kite
Ditto
cinder badger
But it was established that he's not a kid that he's actually just a youth or young man
That is what they referred to him as
They did not refer to him as a child so therefore he is not a boy he is a young man
inner kite
Kinda think that's just localization
cinder badger
Who originally wrote the script
inner kite
But that's your opinion and I respect it
inner kite
They changed haurchefant completely, so my version is the english one unfortunately