I'm really curious if we can just walk willy nilly on the moon or whether it's a blessing like the Kojin or it's just gonna be handwaved lol
#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
obsidian pagoda
hollow fern
That really fucked me in the head.
open verge
Makes me think the end of 6.0 will world changing which it 100% will be
cinder badger
Alphinaud is drowning in shallow water
open verge
Rip my new world meracydia expansion 
heady shadow
the moon is prob mpore then we knew
bronze valley
So cloning or necromancy?
hollow fern
He'll be a ghost working on ffxiv.
open verge
I feel like 6.0 should have an extra trial or something for the story
dim sigil
heady shadow
since do one can look under the surface
woeful dagger
I'm really curious if we can just walk willy nilly on the moon or whether it's a...
another Kami blessing would be a horrible trope to use so I am guessing we can just exist on it.
hollow fern
I was speaking of 14 specifically.
open verge
Ff10 is 20
cinder badger
Black Mage limit break 4 should be Ultima
gaunt star
The moon drops and FFXIV ends due to a licensing issue somewhere.
Re-released one year later and we're back in 7.0.
dim sigil
Blm lb 3 shouls accidently awaken the echo in someone
heady shadow
wouldnt be that bad
bronze valley
Hasn’t the moon already dropped? At this rate, we’re going to run out of moons to crash
hollow fern
It'd be bizzare though
woven escarp
there's two
obsidian pagoda
Rip my new world meracydia expansion <:yoshiPain:713612978917998622>
It's currently a wasteland so maybe a full world overhaul will actually make us be able to get there lol
hollow fern
Maybe we will get the pleasure of building houses.
woeful dagger
Galamud was technically not a moon
open verge
Maybe
woeful dagger
it was a satellite
dim sigil
Thav finally getting to be a place tho
cinder badger
Then every time black Mages use the lb4 "ultima" someone can chime in:
"SUCH DEVASTATION"
obsidian pagoda
Dalamud was a space station
open verge
Man made moon
woeful dagger
It was an Allagan construct that was housing Bahamut that the Allagans used to fuel their empire
gaunt star
Maybe we will get the pleasure of building houses.
But we have to still click on the placard and fight the hidden RNG timer for plot. 
hollow fern
Then every time black Mages use the lb4 "ultima" someone can chime in:
"SUCH DE...
Bahaha
woeful dagger
An empire I believe used that power to go to the real Moon and found a galactic empire spanning the cosmos.
bronze valley
Fair, but do you really want to crash the moon onto the earth
gaunt star
Yes.
dim sigil
Bajabera
bronze valley
Wait, I kinda want to do that too now
gaunt star
🦀 Eorzea is dead. 🦀
hollow fern
LOL
cinder badger
Summoner limit break 4 should just be summoning the actual Bahamut
open verge
Wouldn’t moving the moon fuck with the water and cause tsunamis or some shit
random ravine
Wouldn’t moving the moon fuck with the water and cause tsunamis or some shit
yes
but that's in the real world
bronze valley
Probably, but that’s the point
dim sigil
T h is is a video game so no
random ravine
T h is is a video game so no
video games gotta follow some rules too
open verge
Oh are y’all talking about ff14 moon
I’m dumb
I thought you wanted the real moon to drop on earth not ff14
I’m fine with both tho
gaunt star
Same.
cinder badger
I don't want the moon to drop on 14
random ravine
I thought you wanted the real moon to drop on earth not ff14
real moon drops on earth = goodbye, earth
dim sigil
FF14 moon
hollow fern
There was two conversations going at once tbf
bronze valley
True
heady shadow
just wait till theres six
dim sigil
I am 4 ahead of you
hollow fern
Easy. Respond to the message that follows your train of thought on the subject you wish to speak of.
heady shadow
slow mode only for when dis, lance and other peeps arguing
hollow fern
Slow mode is painful.
gaunt star
I still can't get over the top pin on this channel.
hollow fern
Please don't wish something so awful upon us.
open verge
slow mode only for when dis, lance and other peeps arguing
So always
young burrow
this might be really obvious to a lot of people, but who is the narrator for the Endwalker trailer? Like character-wise? feel free to spoiler tag your answer if you like, it sounds so familiar but I can't pin who it is.
woeful dagger
no need for slow mode cause this channel gonna get locked in 4 days anyways
dim sigil
I get its cuz mmo and works diff i guess but its real nice that the new entry into 14 always gets revealed with less then year till release
open verge
this might be really obvious to a lot of people, but who is the narrator for the...
Emet
dim sigil
14-5 is nearly here
open verge
It’s his monologue in the amaurot dungeons
drowsy ivy
this might be really obvious to a lot of people, but who is the narrator for the...
Emet and Fandaniel
young burrow
God I'm dumb, it was on the tip of my tongue
yeah, it was Emet, just been a while since I'd heard his voice
Thank you!
heady shadow
emet has some new ines too
next quarry
What emet says in the trailer is from the dugneon
obsidian pagoda
I hope we get to see him again as an Ancient
next quarry
It's just emet
heady shadow
ye but the ''far edge of fate'' is new
forest magnet
it's not new
the entire speech is mostly new
the only line that is repeated is "the fabric of the star began to fray"
dim sigil
Use better fabric dont cheap out lmao
obsidian pagoda
Zodiark is a WVR
young burrow
smh using hempen over here
obsidian pagoda
Couldn't afford silk
open verge
The roaaaad that we walk was lost in the endwalker 
west bough
When is the space invader expansion? Omega's creators are still a potential threat
young burrow
can't get the dang song out of my head though, I hope we get to hear a full version of it soon, but still with the muffled lyrics
open verge
The roaaaad that we walk was lost on the moon
woeful dagger
I hope Endwalker has a Moonraker reference somewhere
young burrow
that, and the new bozja raid's final boss song too ;-;
woeful dagger
or is that too boomer for you zoomers
worn forge
hey how did they get Kurt Cobain to do the reveal music for Endwalker
open verge
The only line I can make out is something engrained in ash
worn forge
it really does sound a bit similar imo
young burrow
I know what you're talking about but I can't help but think of the n64 007 game with the laser gun in it.
open verge
Oh and I can hear shadows cast
dim sigil
Somthing somthomg angel's
young burrow
I loved the heck outta that game though
woeful dagger
Luckless confirmed boomer with me
open verge
Did the shb teaser have muffled lyrics
dim sigil
They were hard to understand
woeful dagger
kjnfkjrewkerfnjk jnknerjkf erngrjken TITAN
heady shadow
I dont watch james bond movies
hollow fern
I recently discovered that the ground looks like it's under flat ice if you pan the camera looking upward and I haven't been able to un-see it. The depth of the ground goes away. x.x
worn forge
as a friend of a sound engineer, I would say it’s there partly for effect and to prevent audio scrubbing
woeful dagger
Gaia is my new favorite character cause she keeps telling Urianger to either hurry up his speeches or shut up
Tell him queen
open verge
Nah
worn forge
I’m excited for Pandemonium tbh
dim sigil
Given shes a concnation member shell be back
open verge
The end of Eden makes me think she’s coming back at some point
woeful dagger
Also she's tethered to the First. Not like she can go anywhere else.
open verge
I mean
worn forge
and we’ve had plenty of characters stick around after their storylines end
woeful dagger
But G'raha is from the Source
forest magnet
wouldn't be the first time
open verge
Just give up your soul Gaia
open verge
Ok but Gaia is literally capable of traversing
forest magnet
Yeah she has ascian powers
open verge
So it’s not crazy to think they will use her again 
heady shadow
aside from cid, nero, the twins, theres been no characters from a raid series that came back
worn forge
also this is assuming we never have a reason to visit the First again
which is hella unlikely
woeful dagger
I think it's more likely we visit another Shard than we go to the First again
worn forge
the devs aren’t the kind to make an expansion’s worth of zones and say fuck em when we’re done
woeful dagger
There are still sundered Ascians presumably on every Shard still trying to cause the rejoining even if the Convocation are dead
cinder badger
Wanting, I lie.
Too weary to die.
Too lost to the ice for saving
My sins claim me, untame me
forest magnet
aside from cid, nero, the twins, theres been no characters from a raid series th...
Ironworks people
heady shadow
jessie doesnt count
forest magnet
God knows the MSQ has completely forgotten about the sky pirates
worn forge
Alpha’s around
heady shadow
because the people i listered are msq originally
worn forge
and the Sky Pirates can be seen in the gold saucer
forest magnet
only during make it rain
open verge
Eden is a lot more relevant to then the MSq then Alexander was
heady shadow
no i seen them normally
worn forge
Eden is a lot more relevant to then the MSq then Alexander was
u wot m8
open verge
I mean Eden was hella connected to msq
worn forge
we got to the First thanks to Alexander
forest magnet
if u wanna talk about irrelevance sky pirates and nier
young burrow
do we know if ascians can take others through the void into other worlds? I know they can with themselves, and with bodies they control, and I know they can move other people around and pull out of the lifestream, but I don't think I've seen world transfers heh
open verge
we got to the First thanks to Alexander
True but I still feel like Eden was a lot more connected to MSq
I mean you have to progress MSq to even finish Eden
next quarry
It was more involved for the player
heady shadow
you can literally skip eden and pretend it didnt even exist and ryne wouldnt say otherwise
she would just mention about restoring the first
wooden briar
Having another allied convocation member around is a pretty big deal
heady shadow
and ivalice
open verge
What is your point
obsidian pagoda
do we know if ascians can take others through the void into other worlds? I know...
They can with some caveats. Elidibus had to get Ardbert and Co to "die" so he can carry their spirits.
open verge
I guess we shouldn’t do any side story 
worn forge
Alex adds onto the MSQ due to ||its tech being used alongside Omega’s to travel the tower to the first||
young burrow
They can with some caveats. Elidibus had to get Ardbert and Co to "die" so he ca...
Oh yeah, I forgot about that, feels like forever ago now. I was just thinking Gaia taking Ryne to the source, but I don't know what their involvement would be in 6.0 and beyond, if any
woeful dagger
and ivalice
Ivalice is somewhat important because the Dalmascan resistance is basically what has allowed Bozja to actually fight against Gabranth's forces and also helped the Alliance against the Empire before Varis' death.
cinder badger
Theory: The Wandering Minstrel is an Ascian and will have a major part to play in 6.0
hollow fern
|| Alphinaud: Well, if you remember when you left the Atherial stream you were naked. It is a scene I will never forget
Y'shtola: Oh is it now?
Alphinaud: Well, I was pleased to see you! I-I mean it was a simple statement of fact!||
balmy mesa
Alex adds onto the MSQ due to ||its tech being used alongside Omega’s to travel ...
also: the twinning
wooden briar
Well considering it's the climax of Hydaelin and Zodiark, having the oracles of light and dark would be significant
woeful dagger
also: the twinning
next quarry
I wouldn't bet on it, it would need the player to do all of Eden to continue MSQ
teal geyser
|| Alphinaud: Well, if you remember when you left the Atherial stream you were n...
That was Alphinaud
heady shadow
its called ''Optional'' for a reason.
point is just because it;s tied to msq it doesnt mean characters from it will come back in the future.
the only weird one is crystal tower which afaik they never planned for it to be 5.0 material till SB released.
open verge
heady shadow
if my point was moot then where the fuck is Mide and my sky pirates T^T
balmy mesa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9QD25nakt8
that is perfect
open verge
Void ark is how we get to the moon
teal geyser
if my point was moot then where the fuck is Mide and my sky pirates T^T
Gold saucer :3
open verge
Please look forward to it
cinder badger
@woeful dagger replace the healer with Sage at the end
teal geyser
if my point was moot then where the fuck is Mide and my sky pirates T^T
to be fair the only point I can make here against you is simply "Omega and Alex get referenced in the plot but still optional" but because of time shenanigans it can be explained away
unique verge
At the very least, the nature of Alex being a timeloop means that whenever the WoL decides to do Alex is the exact correct moment to do it.
heady shadow
ye it's extra dungeon/alternbate timeline stuff
open verge
ryne and Gaia aren’t done as characters til we see the festival they talked about in last step
heady shadow
the festival could be the Beast tribe quests finale
worn forge
Mide’s ||gone, with her beloved back in time to begin their tribe origin story||
open verge
Better fucking not
teal geyser
That's not a terrible idea Scree
worn forge
if I remember correctly
teal geyser
Better fucking not
Do your fucking beast tribes
obsidian pagoda
if I remember correctly
Yes she's in a perpetual timeloop
heady shadow
i still gotta finish dwarves
open verge
I did the other 2
teal geyser
do your fucking crafters
woeful dagger
I also have exactly 1 DoH/L Job: Fisher lol
somber storm
do crafts
woeful dagger
It's the only one I can stomach
open verge
I don’t understand
somber storm
gil speeds up the crafter quests
open verge
How to level crafters
woeful dagger
that's 12 hours i could be spending doing something better with my life
hollow fern
That was Alphinaud
Yeah, they were speaking about Thancred so I got them mixed up. I betrayed my husbando.
teal geyser
uh, for the first 20 levels you want to do your quests, and generally make one of everything in the log and whatnot, once you can do Ishgard restoration you just do that and you can even make money off of that if you want
like
worn forge
crafters, literally, just go buy your daily GC item, or do Ishgard Resto
teal geyser
when I level crafters when I make that one of everything for the first 20 levels I make a few hundred thousand gil
open verge
What do I do in ishgard
open verge
Do I have to go into diadem
teal geyser
for materials unless you want to buy it off the market board but it shouldn't be too expensive
open verge
Ok
worn forge
ye Cal they’re fairly cheap these days
open verge
How fast does this process take
teal geyser
Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy quicker than any combat job
woeful dagger
nah not worth it
woeful dagger
i just farm Allagan leather for my Gil
woeful dagger
Allagan Leather sells for 20k a pop on Balmung
drowsy ivy
Level all crafters so you can do your own repairs on gear
teal geyser
to be fair Monk, you can make good money just about anywhere
Like
again
just leveling my crafters to level 20 I made hundreds of thousands of gil
open verge
I’m too stupid to understand how to make money
teal geyser
literally just picked up crafting
open verge
What did you sell leveling your crafters
teal geyser
I made one of everything since first time completion gives nice bonus xp
drowsy ivy
quest items sell well
teal geyser
and just sold it all
open verge
Ok
torpid yoke
gasp cals cool blue is gone
drowsy ivy
GC HQ turn in items too
open verge
What order do I level my crafters in
teal geyser
gasp cals cool blue is gone
I left the server so my cool alumni role got removed
teal geyser
What order do I level my crafters in
This gets a bit complicated
torpid yoke
why'd you leave XD
teal geyser
why'd you leave XD
I hate everyone
drowsy ivy
arguably it doesnt matter
torpid yoke
yo sameee
drowsy ivy
I would say CUL for last
torpid yoke
even myself :D
worn forge
imo: WVR/LTW followed by ARM/BSM and CRP
drowsy ivy
since it doesnt make anything the others need
drowsy ivy
get the other crafters up to 20 first
teal geyser
What order do I level my crafters in
so normally what you want to do is simply level them all up at the same time except cul if you really want since you can share gear and make materials since for example leather from leatherworker will get used in weaver, blacksmith, armorer, etc recipes.
So you SHOULD do them all at the same time equally if you want to do them all, if you just want to do a single crafter just for tribe stuff I'd do weaver probably
open verge
And when you say level them at the same time
teal geyser
but just doing one crafter for tribe stuff makes leveling take less time but more annoying since you can't just make yourself better gear
open verge
5 levels each
drowsy ivy
yeah keep them within reach of each other
heady shadow
I'm going to laugh so much if the final beast tribe quests is the festival stuff from eden
xD
balmy mesa
I'm so glad I finally got the job quests for all crafters out of the way.
teal geyser
5 levels each
5/10 up to you really, I generally stop when I hit some sort of material stoppage like.....leveling weaver and then suddenly "oh I need dragon leather now, I'll stop and level leatherworker now"
balmy mesa
I just brute-force it by buying the shit I need off the MB
open verge
I’ll need to read a guide
teal geyser
I just brute-force it by buying the shit I need off the MB
and that's how you waste money!
balmy mesa
but then again, JP DCs tend to have very reasonable prices for materials
open verge
I have been getting crafter leveling tips since the beginning of time
teal geyser
I’ll need to read a guide
eh just use common sense really
heady shadow
i have a system, i level my crafters till like... 30 or so then use beats tribes.
then i just go from there
open verge
No I have never done any of it
balmy mesa
and that's how you waste money!
¯_(ツ)_/¯
teal geyser
I guess it's not the worst I've heard though
People who go "leveling crafters sucks, I'm broke, I can't do it because I can't buy any more items to turn in" I just want to punch right in the fucking face
open verge
I’ll make sure to bug this discord when I get around to leveling them
But I already have so much content o want to do in this game anyway
heady shadow
i only spent 200k gil to level three crafters then once I got to level 30 i did the beats tribes i could for them
then did moogles
whichever got to 60 then namazu
and so on
balmy mesa
ah I need to get moogles to rank 8, but I don't know if I can be bothered with them
heady shadow
if you got crafters you can level with them go for it
balmy mesa
'specially cos sometimes I just want to rip that fucking pom pom off and shove it in where the sun doesn't shine
lol
teal geyser
'specially cos sometimes I just want to rip that fucking pom pom off and shove i...
slap moogle daily is good
cinder badger
To give an answer on the concept behind the logo for 6.0 is a bit hard but the Nuance behind it is something like this: " how far would you find Hope when you're facing the despair that is the end".
heady shadow
but i was leveling crafters for them so..
somber storm
arr tribes
cinder badger
I'm trying to understand what this actually means
somber storm
balmy mesa
I'm trying to understand what this actually means
FF13 crossover /s
obsidian pagoda
pls no
cinder badger
The color theme for this expansion is not white but Platinum the reason behind it was to give a glittering image after the journey thus far
heady shadow
you got ff13 in thw twinning though
cinder badger
I'm actually watching mr. Happy break the translations down
heady shadow
・一応月には空気はあるし、窒息ゲージが出て外に出ていると死んでしまうような面倒くさいことはやらない
(IN THE CONTEXT OF FFXIV) Since there is oxygen on the moon, there won't be troublesome elements like suffocation gauge or death when you exit the area.
maybe i want space to choke me
cinder badger
So apparently Paladin as the poster child has nothing to do with Final Fantasy 4
obsidian pagoda
maybe i want space to choke me
kinky
fossil aurora
It’s a nod but we’ll see if it’s anything more
cinder badger
Truthfully I was rather at lost on how to decide on the matter but instead of wanting to just Illustrated the other side of all our players the feeling and thought of wanting to surpass all the imagination we have up till now is really strong
Since this is the end of the hydaelyn/zodiark arc they wanted to ensure that they can conclude The Saga of this Final Fantasy title in a high note and therefore settled in having Paladin as the poster boy of this expansion
teal geyser
maybe i want space to choke me
Just ask Zenos
cinder badger
So it just seems like Final Fantasy 4 wasn't the actual inspiration for these decisions
heady shadow
im over zenos
dim sigil
One hell of a coincidence
obsidian pagoda
They probably pat each other on the back when they realised the FF4 unintended connection
dim sigil
There has to be some ff4 inspiration given those are whale mouth and minions
young burrow
I'm over him too, but I was also over Elidibus before post 5.0 stuff, and he turned out alright.
dim sigil
Even if not originally ff4 I'm sure they're quite aware
heady shadow
dark kngiht to pally is pretty friggin coincidental
young burrow
I hope they write him well, but I feel he's already had everything laid out for us about his character
obsidian pagoda
Might be the other way around, like they decided the whole Moon, DRK > PLD stuff and then go, hey we can tie in FF4 into this! Let's sell some minions
prime verge
LMAO I doubt zenos is gonna get a personality buff
heady shadow
used to be a heart
dim sigil
It seems to be young but not necessarily A Child
young burrow
also hasn't the WoL been a tank for the most part? outside of HW I suppose, but he even enters that as WAR
heady shadow
doesnt matter his ancient self is smaller then me
dim sigil
Hes prob like 20
heady shadow
soi hes a kid
cinder badger
No he's been a DPS most times
heady shadow
he was onyl a tank in ARR
prime verge
nah the wol was a war since arr wasnt he
cinder badger
He was Warrior than Dragoon then Samurai and Monk and then Dark Knight
heady shadow
He was a ranger or whatever if 1.0
cinder badger
He was Samurai and monk in stormblood
dim sigil
Healer poster boy when
cinder badger
He was both of them
open verge
Never
prime verge
oh damn ur right never had a healer
heady shadow
Ranger>War>DRG>MNK/SAM>Drk
young burrow
he was WAR in ARR, WAR into DRG in HW, SAM / MNK in SB, then god knows what in the trailer for ShB but mostly DRK was the focus, and then PLD for this trailer
prime verge
maybe next expac
young burrow
I think, if I'm remembering most of that correctly
open verge
Alisaie proven caster could look cool In cgi
cinder badger
He was dark knight in shadowbringers
young burrow
oh yeah, I loved seeing Alisaie and Alphinaud in that cutscene
cinder badger
Don't confuse people now the poster child for shadowbringers was Dark Knight
young burrow
well yeah, but I'm talking about the trailer - he uses a few classes before settling to DRK
open verge
Smn Sch and Mch have never been in a cinematic
heady shadow
the switching of jobs was just showing how everything was useless against the light
and you cant fight it with light
open verge
And we haven’t seen a ninja in combat in cgi form 
cinder badger
Because they needed imagery for his previous expansions
heady shadow
so fight it with darness
teal geyser
Because they needed imagery for his previous expansions
Being the Warrior of Light wasn't good enough, he needed to become something else
young burrow
yeah, I was just saying we've seen him as that in the trailer heh'
prime verge
wol has the pld drip now
cinder badger
Each of the jobs he shifted to in the trailer for shadowbringers were the jobs that he previously was in the other expansions
prime verge
bro the serotonin seeing this dude bust in as a paladin
teal geyser
Each of the jobs he shifted to in the trailer for shadowbringers were the jobs t...
They skipped one though smh
young burrow
except archer, right? though I think he was archer for a moment in the really old ARR trailer
cinder badger
Which one
teal geyser
except archer, right? though I think he was archer for a moment in the really ol...
no
he is archer in the beginning of the ShB trailer
which is from the 1.0 trailer
young burrow
that's what I was talking about, yes
cinder badger
He was never Paladin
oak pike
thought he was just gladiator
teal geyser
want to bet on that Yayo
cinder badger
He was only sword and shield on the cover of the box
teal geyser
thought he was just gladiator
fine "gladiator"
teal geyser
He was only sword and shield on the cover of the box
Want to bet on that?
cinder badger
The elezen lady was the gladiator
oak pike
didn't had a greatsword in 1.0 trailer?
heady shadow
gimme a sec
young burrow
teal geyser
If I win you got to give me a ❤️ and say I'm amazing
young burrow
he looks so young heh
heady shadow
cinder badger
@teal geyser I'm sorry Professor I must not tell lies
heady shadow
oh im too slow
teal geyser
<@207811544925339648> I'm sorry Professor I must not tell lies
I'll take that as a yes
Boom
sword
TECHNICALLY he was never an archer
since that was an echo vision
he technically started with gladiator
gaunt star
so like, zenos is just gonna be the "other half" of our soul. We're the light (paladin) half, he's the dark (new edgy class) half.
Or am I crazy? This games twists haven't ever been all that insane, it makes sense with the comments they made and the trailer dialogue.
cinder badger
Only the devs say otherwise
teal geyser
I mean
heady shadow
Oh its ardbert xD
teal geyser
you can say "well archer was the focus"
which is clearly what they are doing
but
TECHNICALLY
was a gladiator first
and never an archer
cinder badger
He never carried that gear out to battle
teal geyser
he never carried a bow into battle, he was just given one in an echo vision because that's how the echo worked in 1.0
heady shadow
before it turned into a crater
young burrow
I'm kinda leaning towards the whole reaper thing for the other class, but I think I'll just wait until we see more in whenever it was, May?
cinder badger
He fought with a bow also you have to remember how the combat system was actually set up in 1.0
It was very very different than what we have now
teal geyser
It was very very different than what we have now
not in a relevant way
cinder badger
You could have literally started the game as a crafting job and used it for combat
teal geyser
there is not relevancy in that statement
teal geyser
I'm kinda leaning towards the whole reaper thing for the other class, but I thin...
May yeah
heady shadow
The NOT Cylla(sp?) is the gladiator
cinder badger
They wanted you to change on the Fly
teal geyser
I always just call her Cylva, it's cuter
oak pike
man he really did have a great sword and it wasn't usable in 1.0
cinder badger
That was the original concept
teal geyser
anyway I expect my ❤️ now
unique verge
Cylva, Cyelle, is it every specified which one is her real name?
teal geyser
I proved technically he was a gladiator
teal geyser
Cylva, Cyelle, is it every specified which one is her real name?
Cylva
teal geyser
Cyella was her alias later
teal geyser
but like that aint a glad weapon :V
Maybe Derplander was just really really small :3
heady shadow
was one of these
oak pike
well he is 5'6
heady shadow
teal geyser
it was an aurora class battleship yeah
which uh
fun fact the lorebook suggests is given to legati(?) of a legion
so like, a legion's forces was definitely attacked there and not generic forces there I guess
but I guess that's obvious anyway
teal geyser
well he is 5'6
damn fucking short ass
heady shadow
3rd and 1st legion were fighting in the main city no?
unique verge
Ehh, somehow i feel like whats being shown in the trailer is insurrection
teal geyser
insurrection by who?
unique verge
Even asshole garleans have to be like "Hmm, okay, that's a giant evil tower. Our boss just built a giant evil tower, and its eating peoples minds"
teal geyser
Even asshole garleans have to be like "Hmm, okay, that's a giant evil tower. Ou...
To be fair they were doing that before the towers
unique verge
Kinda feel like whats left of the legions probably revolt against Zenos - and lose badly
heady shadow
whats left we will prob have to save their sorry asses
teal geyser
oh boy
unique verge
Aint gonna be anything left most likely
heady shadow
just imagine, the WoL, kids being scared
then shows up
and saves them
meanwhile adults ''fucking savage''
dim sigil
Bunny girls are quite foreign over there they can be a little racist
kindred rampart
wouldn't be surprised if Lunar Bahamut is just chilling over Galremald
blasting shit over the sky
hollow fern
idk if Aymeric is going to die, but I will be really fucking upset if he is. Don't spoil pls.
I'm just expressing my anger. o3o
unique verge
wtf?
dim sigil
Yes lemme spoil the plot of 14 5 that we clearly have
heady shadow
so its safe to say he wont die
hollow fern
I'm in Heavensward still. haha
dim sigil
This is a risky place to be then
dim sigil
Your trust wrong
unique verge
Its literally not a channel you have to spoiler in.
teal geyser
I'm in Heavensward still. haha
why the fuck are you here?
hollow fern
But I haven't seen anything yet.
heady shadow
oh boy
kindred rampart
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dim sigil
Get chocoboed
hollow fern
I have been lucky. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
heady shadow
golden rule of thumb: if you never heard of what we are takintg about., run
hollow fern
xD
obsidian pagoda
Well you can be here but we won't be covering spoilers so that's a choice you get to make whether to stay or go 😛
hollow fern
Luckily I haven't seen anything yet. Px
cinder badger
@teal geyser okay so I'm actually watching the trailer right now and I have to ask do you really think that's a one-handed sword?
teal geyser
so guys remember when Aymeric got stabbed by a moogle with a butter knife? /s
dim sigil
I wish that was me
cinder badger
That thing's almost as big as he is
kindred rampart
I thought he got salt lick poisoning? @teal geyser
exotic copper
my reaper is gonna be sic mundus
unique verge
I recall stabbing a moogle with a really big knife. Repeatedly.
dim sigil
Recall the salt licking scene
exotic copper
i can't wait to tell all my new beastmen about my sick scythe
teal geyser
That thing's almost as big as he is
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exotic copper
god bless you
dim sigil
I wish pld kept the sheathed when pulling out their weapon
heady shadow
big ass weapon
exotic copper
whoever sneezed that name had some serious disease
cinder badger
Oh yes a blade that folds when you sheath it
heady shadow
unique verge
The real reason 6.0 is going to be a superior expansion.
Also lets not get into ARR swords
teal geyser
Oh yes a blade that folds when you sheath it
that's meaningless, your point is that it's not useable one handed, whether it folds when sheathed isn't important, what is is that it it's not folded when you use it
cinder badger
The sword he is carrying is a Greatsword plus he has no Shield that's a bag that he's carrying along with the blade
unique verge
because ARR swords are fucking janky as hell
cinder badger
He's literally lugging around his inventory
exotic copper
my folding sword breaks my immersion
teal geyser
The sword he is carrying is a Greatsword plus he has no Shield that's a bag that...
not all gladiators use shields
exotic copper
oh hello are you me
cinder badger
You're not going to put a sword like that on your hip
dim sigil
Nah the purple low level gla sword is the best one
unique verge
Remember. This shit is from ARR.
exotic copper
i've been pointing back to that lore blurb about gladiator's not using shields
since like, hw
unique verge
!iglam Ash Macuahuitl
cinder badger
That sword literally serves no purpose other than it's just there
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unique verge
Literally paddles
exotic copper
That's historically accurate.
unique verge
Still literally paddle
exotic copper
Don't talk shit if you don't know
teal geyser
You're not going to put a sword like that on your hip
it's...almost like it's CG and you can make these sorts of criticisms about everything
cinder badger
You're arguing something that doesn't exist but if you really think that you're right like you always do go and take it up with the devs I'm sure they'll love to hear your take on their game
teal geyser
I'm...arguing something that doesn't exist?
cinder badger
It doesn't exist he was never a gladiator having a sword you never use does it make you a gladiator it shows him lugging it around with his bag of shit that he got which just means he's got a sword in his inventory
exotic copper
wait who are we talking aboutu
teal geyser
Derplander from the 1.0 trailer
cinder badger
Also think of this as well he's the only one carrying the bags so maybe he's just everybody's caddy
teal geyser
punctuation would make that a lot more readable but...if I'm reading that right...
you're saying that he was never a gladiator because he has a sword you can't use?
heady shadow
why does it even matter?
exotic copper
the 1.0 trailer is 7 min long... where is this for context
heady shadow
hes just the plac,ment for the player character
teal geyser
teal geyser
the 1.0 trailer is 7 min long... where is this for context
there
teal geyser
I'm being a smart ass and saying technically he was a gladiator in 1.0
and Yayo is saying "no he wasn't whatsoever, not even technically"
exotic copper
i mean, we see he owned a longsword lol
but if I buy a longsword I'm not a glad
I see both sides
teal geyser
Sure but you can argue that for like, any of Derplander's appearances so I think that's arguing in pretty bad faith
heady shadow
try to remember dark knight didnt even exist in 1.0
cinder badger
@exotic copper I think it's representative of his inventory but even if you want to argue that he's got a sword and he'll use it that looks more like a sword that would sit at your back rather than at your hip.
teal geyser
"he was never a warrior, he just used an axe"
teal geyser
Swords don't sit at your back.
Sure but that doesn't stop fiction
glares at The Witcher
Got two fucking swords on that back
and whether it'd hurt to be on your back is irrelevant
exotic copper
I love that people on the internet have made "back sheathes" out of like, plywood
and it looks hilarious
teal geyser
Hi Smug
heady shadow
dude, even in fantasy, the back sheather are specially for the purpose for resting on the back
warm bone
Hi Cal
heady shadow
plus some sword wouldnt be that long
warm bone
i just wanted to say Geralt wears his sword on his back cause he rides roach everywhere
exotic copper
Swords were much longer than you think.
warm bone
and wearing it on his hip is gonna slap roach all the time
teal geyser
i just wanted to say Geralt wears his sword on his back cause he rides roach eve...
jokes on you I walk everywhere
heady shadow
would know, i have like 30 of them
exotic copper
The angle you wear them on your hip gives you a lot of room
exotic copper
You own 30 swords and you think the derplanders 1.0 sword is unrealistically long?
warm bone
also he cant limber it on the horse
because we all know
roach GTFOs whenever a monster appears
heady shadow
I dont own Claymores.
teal geyser
plus some sword wouldnt be that long
To be fair there are some pretty unreasonably shaped gladiator swords in the game
looks at Curtana
exotic copper
It's not a claymore...
heady shadow
your missing my point
exotic copper
it's just a generic hand-and-a-half/longsword
gaunt star
To be fair there are some pretty unreasonably shaped gladiator swords in the gam...
Lvl 13 BDSM Paddle
lost raft
can i have a quick train of thought that explains yoshi's shirt to templar?
teal geyser
Fuck what's the GLD trainer?
exotic copper
Filth and the Fury = punk roc movie documentary directed by julien temple
Temple -> templar
lost raft
thanks
teal geyser
Lvl 13 BDSM Paddle
Spank me Mylla
cinder badger
Did you know that the filth and the Fury is the slogan for neighborhood
Has been for some time
gaunt star
Spank me Mylla <:uwucarby:588388854755491860>
So that's why PLD have Royal Authority
teal geyser
damn right
exotic copper
did you know that it's been associated with the sex pistols for longer
lost raft
see
this goes over my head because i have very poor music knowledge
cinder badger
He could have worn any neighborhood shirt to give out the same clue
teal geyser
So that's why PLD have Royal Authority <:uwucarby:588388854755491860>
low blow too
teal geyser
@exotic copper so the only thing I have to ask is just explain the second shirt he wore
serene crest
Those "paddles" were pretty nasty though. They're lined with obsidian for blades. They're more saw blades than paddles.
gaunt star
Mylla taught us everything about being a GLD 
cinder badger
I was reading earlier today that it was considered a slogan or a tagline put on their merchandise they have several different kinds of shirts that have the filth and the fury written on it
subtle pasture
I think Dis mentioned it's a shirt he's worn before on live letters
teal geyser
Those "paddles" were pretty nasty though. They're lined with obsidian for blades...
use the flat side it's fine
prime verge
Omfg PLD job quests are so weird
exotic copper
i mean, children of bodom is a cool band, I was never defending templar explicitly, I think it's probably reaper
subtle pasture
but is still hell of a coinky dink
teal geyser
I think Dis mentioned it's a shirt he's worn before on live letters
The second one? Yeah it does look sketchy
prime verge
The gld ones are fine but the PLD ones suck so much, it only gets better once u get back to the gld guild later lol
subtle pasture
Like Yoshi knows what he was doin'
teal geyser
The gld ones are fine but the PLD ones suck so much, it only gets better once u ...
30-50 is fine
subtle pasture
Jokin' about Necromancer
exotic copper
thats also true
subtle pasture
doubling down on death
exotic copper
could have been memeing on the necro thing still
unique verge
He was likely just trolling
teal geyser
If he trolled and it isn't necro people are going to get so mad lol
teal geyser
""necro""
exotic copper
but i think it's probably scythe focused and "balance between life and death" focused
reaper, harvester
teal geyser
Honestly if it's a warscythe job
I just want it to be like Sice from type 0
I think that's the best outcome
cinder badger
I'm sticking with my insane and completely outlandish and unfounded conclusion
He's changing Warrior from a tank to a DPS
exotic copper
lmao
unique verge
But he already did that in Bozja
teal geyser
Max fell cleave Yayo
cinder badger
Since you know he changed shirts in the middle of that segment
exotic copper
maybe the fakeout was warrior is moving to melee dps and we're getting another tank
cinder badger
Technically would be because now Warrior is a whole new job being a DPS they never said anything about taking jobs away
That to I like that way of thinking@exotic copper
random ravine
Why is ARR such a terrible game compared to the expansions
exotic copper
I think people would be upset if it was just "war is now berserker and here are some minor changes"
teal geyser
My favourite thing about this Yayo is that DRK, a job that is also super not a tank typically, remains a tank
cinder badger
I think the whole filth in the fury thing could also be a fake out do you think you would use the same tactic twice knowing that people are immediately going to draw that conclusion
exotic copper
okay ARR had no mounts for the first 3/4 of its life
random ravine
I literally cannot convince my friends to continue playing
exotic copper
are you happy now
random ravine
Because ARR is so bad
random ravine
So I just spend my time arguing with calisae instead
exotic copper
yeah ARR just sucks because you're establishing that you like to do chores.
teal geyser
I don't like arguing with people
cinder badger
You seem to do it an awful lot for someone who hates doing it
random ravine
Calisae likes correcting people
teal geyser
that I do
teal geyser
and I'll be open about it
heady shadow
loo
cinder badger
Sounds like somebody who just needs validation in life by being correct all the time
teal geyser
I looooove corrections
teal geyser
Sounds like somebody who just needs validation in life by being correct all the ...
Damn right, also that's rude
exotic copper
you actually just like being able to tell someone they're wrong without any consequence
which is fair
its fun
random ravine
Gaius didn't do anything wrong
exotic copper
such devastation
cinder badger
Devastation was not his intention
heady shadow
Fordola didnt do anything wrong., legit thought she was helping her people
cinder badger
Well since I can't play Final Fantasy 14 right now I might as well play Persona 5
exotic copper
intent is not the better part of reality
teal geyser
Devastation was not his intention
heady shadow
Even the best intentions
dim sigil
heady shadow
become evil
random ravine
Ilberd is just misunderstood
dim sigil
Illberd is a berd
teal geyser
Illberd is ill
random ravine
With a nice beard?
warm bone
Elmo just wants to see the world burn
cinder badger
Ilberd was just sloppy
teal geyser
WOAAHHHHHH
heady shadow
has more secrets then a fucking qscian
teal geyser
Don't shit talk my boy Urianger
exotic copper
i mean like, if you get in a car accident and the dude is uninsured, then he tells you "well it wasn't my intention to hit you"
i guess he did nothing wrong
random ravine
@cinder badger and wants to tear you limb to limb
teal geyser
has more secrets then a fucking qscian
I mean...wait, do Ascians even have many secrets?
heady shadow
not since emet blew the lid
exotic copper
or do they
dim sigil
Im sure theres more to come
random ravine
Also urianger should just learn to speak normally
exotic copper
or do we
cinder badger
He was even honest about keeping his secrets
dim sigil
6.0s gotta have some big plot revelations
teal geyser
not since emet blew the lid
to be fair even before Emet they never exactly got asked something and went "nope gotta keep my secrets"
cinder badger
"You're plotting something."
"Every minute of every day."
heady shadow
well was more like, they didnt want to tell us shit
exotic copper
i mean, idk what lore bomb they can drop on 6.0, i have very few questions left
teal geyser
i mean, idk what lore bomb they can drop on 6.0, i have very few questions left
the sound
Presence under Silvertear
What exactly is up with Zenos
prime verge
Emet came with the flag saying *hey just ask me*
i love him
teal geyser
something with the Telophoroi
cinder badger
Zeno's just wants to be our friend
exotic copper
what is up with zenos is like "what's up with that tiger over there"
like, you know whats up with it
prime verge
emet basically said "alright bitches im your personal encyclopedia for the week, ask away"
exotic copper
its a tiger
warm bone
Y'shtola's true age
teal geyser
what is up with zenos is like "what's up with that tiger over there"
yeah alright I guess that's less a twist but a really interesting mystery
teal geyser
Y'shtola's true age
well if you math it out she has to be about 32
heady shadow
doesnt Fandaniel have a secret?
prime verge
yes
cinder badger
Why can't you guys just accept that the guy just wants friends
exotic copper
fandaniel is basically dr. evil
prime verge
Why can't you guys just accept that the guy just wants friends
friends he can kill sure
heady shadow
i dont know dr.evil
exotic copper
austin powers
cinder badger
He doesn't have a whole lot of friends because people keep dying around him so he wants somebody who won't die because then they can be strong enough to be his friend
exotic copper
sharks with laser beams
teal geyser
Oh THAT's Dr Evil?
exotic copper
etc
teal geyser
God it's been ages
heady shadow
i didnbt watch any of those movies sadly
teal geyser
I should rewatch Austin Powers
exotic copper
it's funny, but like, in a very ironic sense
cinder badger
You see if they can fight each other without killing each other then their friendship will last forever
teal geyser
dr evil just came from james bond
James Bond smells though
heady shadow
austin powers is just james bond spoof
prime verge
id be evil too if some stupid garlean bitch gave me cool powers and then named me fandaniel
cinder badger
@exotic copper Fandango is useless
exotic copper
trivago
heady shadow
you know. it really bugs me, fandaniel reminds me of a character somehwre
lost raft
hey now
you can still buy movie tickets on fandango
i think
heady shadow
i cant put my finger on it
teal geyser
you know. it really bugs me, fandaniel reminds me of a character somehwre
Asahi?
prime verge
i honestly rlly like fandaniel lol
heady shadow
not FF related
teal geyser
not FF related
exotic copper
western or eastern culture
cinder badger
Fandango and Tyler Breezenos will win the tag team championship
prime verge
maybe im just a hoe for ascians but i love his "and i want to die too! oh yes!"
hes a mood
heady shadow
oh its def like jrpg
teal geyser
hmm
exotic copper
you're def a hoe for ascians.
heady shadow
or was it western....
teal geyser
you're def a hoe for ascians.
to be fair most people would be hoes for Emet
prime verge
to be fair most people would be hoes for Emet
correction, most people are
heady shadow
he reminds me of Albedo.
only not cannibalistic
exotic copper
i don't see the appeal
teal geyser
Albedo from what?
teal geyser
https://tenor.com/view/xenosaga-ma-belle-peche-momo-albedo-cutscene-gif-13813435
uhhhhhhhhhh
heady shadow
xenosaga
exotic copper
oh
teal geyser
that gif is terrifying
prime verge
fandaniel is literally just any crazed i want to destroy the world villain archetype
heady shadow
i know right? lol
obsidian pagoda
omg Xenosaga, damn
obsidian pagoda
that brings back a lot of memories
exotic copper
and he'll steal our mojo
heady shadow
prime verge
is this fanzenos
teal geyser
This feels like Zenos
heady shadow
zenos is nothing like this guy lol
teal geyser
"Hurt me more WoL"
prime verge
DSAFASDFSDF
prime verge
neither can zenos
heady shadow
he cut his head off
prime verge
that bitch is a cockroach
heady shadow
and it grew back
prime verge
well zenos didnt necessarily cut his head off
heady shadow
dim sigil
Where does the line gods you've grown up so fast come from
teal geyser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhfTuXc6Gkg
OKAY WHY DOES HE KEEP HAUNTING THIS LITTLE GIRL
pastel coyote
make it short
heady shadow
even if you ask me that.....
exotic copper
I'm so certain that zenos' story arc will end with him seeing the good in life and repenting for his sins
prime verge
I'm so certain that zenos' story arc will end with him seeing the good in life a...
please god no, just kill him
exotic copper
and I'm so there to lap up the tears
dim sigil
He gonna be a scion
exotic copper
thats what you want tho
prime verge
no it is not
prime verge
yes
pastel coyote
sorry ff14 isn't directed by disney
prime verge
KJDSNFKAJSFKJNAJKSDFNKSFD
heady shadow
exotic copper
estinien would like a word
heady shadow
here have a read
cinder badger
Imagine this being the new job...
exotic copper
that looks awful lmao
heady shadow
she has this https://xenosaga.fandom.com/wiki/Y-Data
dim sigil
New job is RPR
heady shadow
and he wants it
cinder badger
@exotic copper dude it's literally Dracula
prime verge
all i want is to see zenos with a scythe and also for him to die
exotic copper
dude i know, and its edgy and sucks
cinder badger
Helsing doesn't suck though.
exotic copper
hellsing was better as a TFS abridged anyway
prime verge
hellsing is amazing wtf
cinder badger
Probably watches Naruto
exotic copper
lmao the anime itinerary of this server is showing
do you know anything that isn't shounen
cinder badger
You realize this is a game developed by a Japanese company right?
prime verge
tell me this bitch isnt cool
dim sigil
Looks edgy
heady shadow
btw
exotic copper
it looks like someone's trigun OC
teal geyser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhfTuXc6Gkg
p-please wash my mouth
heady shadow
A;bedo's jp VA is donald duck
prime verge
Looks edgy
he very much is
teal geyser
Scree I need to stop thinking about that
there is so much fucking wrong in that cutscene
prime verge
hes also very pretty
teal geyser
I need help
prime verge
okay ill stop lol
heady shadow
Xenosaga is fucking weird
exotic copper
so pretty you can see like maybe 1/2 of his face
dim sigil
Scree I need to stop thinking about that
Heres a cute boy with cats
teal geyser
that man is extreme "stranger danger"
teal geyser
Heres a cute boy with cats
t-thank you
heady shadow
thats why i said hes not zenos lmao
teal geyser
prime verge
so pretty you can see like maybe 1/2 of his face
me @ u
teal geyser
tell me this bitch isnt cool
https://youtu.be/6pVgX6WGDr4 damn right
exotic copper
hello vash knockoff OC
teal geyser
yes
exotic copper
what about her
prime verge
shes amazing
teal geyser
im serassexual
Fucking
Yes
heady shadow
btw funny you mention hellsing
exotic copper
big tittied police girl has a couple moments
heady shadow
heres albedos eng va https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crispin_Freeman
prime verge
what about HER
exotic copper
mostly plot though
teal geyser
what about *HER*
she smells
prime verge
heres albedos eng va https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crispin_Freeman
i love crispin freeman so much
he voices alucard doesnt he
prime verge
she smells
no shes cool >:((
heady shadow
yes
exotic copper
i never realized ff14 stans were so highly crossbred with hellsing stans
teal geyser
She's protestant
prime verge
maam step on me
DSMHFNBASDFASDF
YOU KNOW WHO ELSE IS PROTESTANT
im not even gonna send him
exotic copper
is it the french dude?
prime verge
actual queens
exotic copper
i forget his name
exotic copper
oh, he's not protestant.
prime verge
yeah i realized after i typed lol, he does have something to do w it tho, been a while since i last watched hellsing
exotic copper
he's catholic.
heady shadow
i never realized ff14 stans were so highly crossbred with hellsing stans
its not the only thing thats crossbred
exotic copper
you mean inbred
prime verge
ITS EVEN GOT A LONG BLOND HAIR BITCH LIKE ZENOS 😤
exotic copper
its just not the top of my list
prime verge
lolol
dim sigil
Zenos is basiclly Dio
prime verge
the art style is rlly nice and also the characters are sexy so i like