lahabrea's raid will get more lore out of it
#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
austere bear
royal spruce
the 14th
woeful dagger
Why? He had no part of the beginning of the arc in 1.X
gaunt star
What would FFXIV be without Zenos? I propose we keep him alive at least until 9.0
woeful dagger
He was added in SB lol. HW if you count his 1 or 2 cutscenes where he's unnamed.
tropic frigate
they are both major in this end from what we know
austere bear
i'm pretty sure he will tell us everything about it than fandaniel
tranquil flower
i bet zenos won't die but will be launched into space with a space rocket never to be seen again until 9.0 or so
tropic frigate
is what i mean
unique verge
Zenos as a character will become incredibly dull and cheap if he is just permanently immune to death and free to be a shitbag.
tropic frigate
its going to be a wow situation if hes still alive and opposes us
he just wont die
tardy elm
Zeros is already dull, and they keep bringing him back
austere bear
let zenos rest
cinder badger
@unique verge you're right Frieza should have stayed dead
austere bear
cause zenos is the only threat that we have to contend on equal footing
royal spruce
oh I just thought about this but if we when Zenos dies I think there's a high possibility he'll ask if we thought of him as friend before he dies
unique verge
<@233381902868938752> you're right Frieza should have stayed dead
I'm sorry are you implying that FF should be taking writing notes from DBZ?
austere bear
and Fandaniel needed muscle of course
random anvil
Didn't even tussle with Zenos' dad 
tranquil flower
oh I just thought about this but if we when Zenos dies I think there's a high po...
he doesn't care what the wol thinks, even if the wol said no, they would still be friends in zenos head
oak pike
fandanel gonna be the lvl 89 trial watch
gaunt star
Fandaniel is obviously anima
tardy elm
Fandango has the be the worst name created yet in the game
gaunt star
I demand summoners get anima as a summon in 6.0
austere bear
maybe 6.0 we will get to know
oak pike
well we getting an ability showcase in may
drowsy ivy
Smn will get ifrit trance and thats it 
drowsy ivy
Rotation is now a 3 min cycle
oak pike
i wonder what they gonna do when they said they want to give every job a passage of arms type of ability that fully represent that job
cinder badger
Ilberd will only be remembered has that one guy who said "sloppeh"
austere bear
are they gonna give paladin Holy
earnest sedge
Jobs alr kinda have their one signature move tho no?
austere bear
yea
earnest sedge
Give RDM Esuna :^)
oak pike
six sided star 
austere bear
lmao
earnest sedge
Give it curaga
austere bear
give red mage a buff melee combo after scorch
oak pike
RDM gets more steps in their finishers
cinder badger
There's not enough VER
gaunt star
Give Red Mage a trance that lets them fire off their spells with no cast times for 10 seconds
cinder badger
Fix red Mages AOE rotation
oak pike
No just make the RDM damage buff affect the melee combo too
their damage buff do affect melee combo
gaunt star
Ah yes we should bring back red mage’s aoe bind
final isle
red mage needs an aoe rez
oak pike
their melee combo is consider magic when having 80 black and white
cinder badger
It should use impact first then either verthunder/veraero II
oak pike
just let embolded buff other magic users
cinder badger
Enchanted weapons skills are unaspected magic damage
tardy elm
What is aspected damage
gloomy shale
Are they planning more alliance raids like Delubrum?
forest magnet
not anytime soon
woeful dagger
Are they planning more alliance raids like Delubrum?
God I hope not
forest magnet
I am a bit disappointed by DR normal, I wish it was a bit more difficult like Castrum
woeful dagger
Castrum isn't difficult it's annoying
earnest sedge
When its del smth (the first part of the name is not catchy) reginae
gaunt star
Castrum is easy
cinder badger
Imagine people wanting to play Fat Miqo'te
gaunt star
Imagine people wanting to play Hrothgar 🤮
gaunt star
No hats no hair no service
cinder badger
He kind of reminded me of King Richard from Disney's Robin Hood
I can't remember but I think the crown work on his head
tardy elm
So are Miqote descended from fat cats?
cinder badger
I wore the crown of light
ember forum
I want to make a fat miqo like dulia
Make it possible
So I can wear nier thighs while being chubby
cinder badger
There can only be one Dulia Chai
tardy elm
There are 2 Dulias..
ember forum
Yeah
tardy elm
The 2nd one walls to ‘the parlor!”
cinder badger
No there can only be one she is one of a kind and best mother
tardy elm
In Eulmore by the summoning bell
ember forum
Anyway they should really add weight slider
cinder badger
@ember forum no
ember forum
Not everyone wants to play sexy toothpick miqote
tardy elm
I want to use a sin eater character
ember forum
Ofc not overly fat
gaunt star
Not possible due to gear scaling
ember forum
But at least a little bit chubbier
cinder badger
People just want the devs to literally kill themselves
gaunt star
Nah just hire more 3D artists instead of buying the ceo another yacht
ember forum
I mean from over 8 mil players
Everyone is buy8ng off mogstation
They have ebough for all of it
Some less popular games have nore
cinder badger
But it still requires time and effort...
forest magnet
I mean a sizeable chunk of XIV's playerbase is from China
I remember Yoshi-P remarking that they discovered a bug in PF when it had like, over 1000 entries in it
which is insane
royal spruce
Man there are a lot of cat girls on the lower decks
cinder badger
Why can't people just play midlanders
gaunt star
Because midlanders look like midlanders
cinder badger
I know it's perfect
royal spruce
They look boring to be honest
gaunt star
You and I have a different definition of perfect
craggy pawn
male midlanders look flavourless
gaunt star
For example. For me perfection is my ocs being reunited on the moon with emet selch in my male maid glamor as necromancer but I cannot have that yet can I!!
drowsy ivy
Id like too see a study on the rates of mental illness in the XIV community
kind lark
why?
digital forge
cinder badger
@drowsy ivy it would be quite extensive
woeful dagger
Hrothgar would be nicer to play if weapns scaled to their body size
Gunblades look like toothpicks on a Hrothgar
drowsy ivy
<@169212524221300736> it would be quite extensive
I really do expect a strong correlation
cinder badger
Joey wheeler plays this game because it's the one place he feels welcome
gaunt star
i just wish male miqote had a less janky looking run cycle
unique verge
I really do expect a strong correlation
I'd expect Crystal to be especially deranged.
gaunt star
Crystal accounts for 90% of mental illness worldwide that’s just straight up facts
cinder badger
Why does everybody always say that every run animation looks weird
woeful dagger
i just wish male miqote had a less janky looking run cycle
If you want janky, play female Roe
gaunt star
Au ra’s is worse
cinder badger
I think I heard somewhere that female roegadyn looks like they're taking a shit
gaunt star
male elezen and male miqote are the only ones that stick out to me tbh
woeful dagger
Lalafell and Viera have very crisp run animations
gaunt star
hyur do as well imo
woeful dagger
The Viera run animation is what keeps drawing me to it
cinder badger
I play a lalafell our run animations are kind of funny
woeful dagger
hyur do as well imo
Not female Highlander
gaunt star
I don’t like it when Viera randomly pick at their feet
cinder badger
But I guess it have to be when you really don't have knees
gaunt star
tbh i kind of forget highlanders existed
drowsy ivy
I'd expect Crystal to be especially deranged.
Classic primal. Trying to deflect smh
woeful dagger
But Thighlander is the better tribe
teal geyser
I don’t like it when Viera randomly pick at their feet
h-huh?
cinder badger
Highlander men scare the shit out of me
gaunt star
Their change pose animation
unique verge
Classic primal. Trying to deflect smh
I mean if you're trying to argue that RP doesnt have a strong correlation with mental illlness......lol
drowsy ivy
I think he means when they do the heels adjust animation
craggy pawn
Highlanders have no eyebrows
cinder badger
The only Highlander guy ever found attractive was Raubahn
teal geyser
Their change pose animation
okay yeah that's not picking at their feet though
woeful dagger
I mean if you're trying to argue that RP doesnt have a strong correlation with m...
So now people who play DnD are mentally ill?
gaunt star
Classic primal. Trying to deflect smh
ive really considered changing data centers because of primal
drowsy ivy
I mean if you're trying to argue that RP doesnt have a strong correlation with m...
Im saying primal is worse than crystal. By a significant margin.
unique verge
Im saying primal is worse than crystal. By a significant margin.
Keep tellin' yourself that
cinder badger
@drowsy ivy I don't believe it
woeful dagger
ive really considered changing data centers because of primal
Come to Crystal bro. There's so little drama it's nice.
cinder badger
@woeful dagger funny joke
teal geyser
.......
unique verge
So now people who play DnD are mentally ill?
Correlation. Not certainty. And im clearly talking about In-game RP'ers not tabletop RP'ers. Not even remotely related.
teal geyser
What the fuck is happening here
drowsy ivy
I've played on both. I've seen some real wild shit on primal
tiny wind
guess im the only one on Light here 
gaunt star
Isn’t crystal where the bench fiasco happened
cinder badger
Crystal is where a lot of Fiasco's happened
teal geyser
Correlation. Not certainty. And im clearly talking about In-game RP'ers not ta...
This argument is far too dumb for me to get into but your opinion is absolute horse shit
gaunt star
Isn’t crystal where the bench fiasco happened
didnt that happen on leviathan too
woeful dagger
Primal is where the Raubahn EX line started, so you know it's degenerate
drowsy ivy
Based cali
woeful dagger
based cali
unique verge
This argument is far too dumb for me to get into but your opinion is absolute ho...
you missed that its me following up on Raging saying something.
cinder badger
I mean I'm from balmung and have always been from balmung since my 1.0 days
gaunt star
based cali lol
woeful dagger
Cali for Best Discord Personality
cinder badger
Even in 1.0 the drama was awful
teal geyser
you missed that its me following up on Raging saying something.
As far as I can read both your opinions are fucking stupid
gaunt star
if your server is flooded and character locked server transfers are free right? as long as its to a non crowded server
drowsy ivy
Wow rude
austere bear
what do i expect from a scythe job? lots and lots of twirling
woeful dagger
I mean I'm from balmung and have always been from balmung since my 1.0 days
There's drama between rp FCs but not dumb raiding drama like on Primal
woeful dagger
if your server is flooded and character locked server transfers are free right? ...
They stopped that after the split pretty sure
teal geyser
and I'm still not as rude as what either of you are being right now
unique verge
He postulated a study on rates of mental illness among FF14 players. I suggested that RP'ers would exhibit the highest rates among that sample.
I dont see te problem tbh
teal geyser
He postulated a study on rates of mental illness among FF14 players. I suggeste...
Yes both of these are fucking stupid takes
gaunt star
roeplay
austere bear
if you mean erp thats even more of a niche
cinder badger
@woeful dagger RP related drama is just as bad
gaunt star
Clearly the highest rates of mental illness are from the people who buy ultimate clears
drowsy ivy
Idk primal players are really quick to say they aren't degenerates
I've seen some shit man 
teal geyser
Clearly the highest rates of mental illness are from the people who buy ultimate...
heh
austere bear
but people role play on mmos since the beginning
cinder badger
Either way it's a freaking game and people take it to an extreme
rain onyx
teal geyser
Wynne help
gaunt star
Clearly the highest rates of mental illness are from the people who buy ultimate...
good point
rain onyx
Hello can we fuck right off with the mental illness takes.
austere bear
You don't pay their sub
teal geyser
I wish I was a mod so I can ban both of them
I'd literally ban you two in a heartbeat
drowsy ivy
That's not ban worthy don't be silly
gaunt star
endwalkers hype
cinder badger
@teal geyser it's a good thing you're not a mod then because it sounds like you would be abusing your power quite a lot
gaunt star
Fixed ast hype
rain onyx
I’d rather not have my mental disabilities be linked to people buying their way through content.
digital radish
y'all are bored with life huh?..this is a 6.0 hype channel ffs lmao
gaunt star
I’ll take pure healer ast over whatever the hell 5.0 ast is
Say goodbye to damage buffs though!!!
teal geyser
I’d rather not have my mental disabilities be linked to people buying their way ...
you're taking offense at the least offensive thing said here?
austere bear
drop it dude
rain onyx
I’ll be honest, I don’t want to scroll up through hell
teal geyser
Fair
gaunt star
general statement was about them obv
gaunt star
Yes I’m very excited to punch the hideous elephants in Thavnair
yeah im excited for the xp squish
cinder badger
No it's forbidden somehow!@craggy pawn
gaunt star
i hope xp gains arent nerfed :( i just want faster levelling
austere bear
healers are gonna differentiate from being support and dps it looks like
drowsy ivy
Data center travel might just delete the need fur alts
gaunt star
i cant stand the thought of going into potd or hoh anymore
rain onyx
I doubt they’ll purposefully make it take longer to level up.
Might just be unintended hits from however they scale it
austere bear
from the looks of it. it seems WHM/SGE combo is gonna be meta for prog
just on pure healing and dps
random anvil
What if the AST rework is ultra mega POG
rain onyx
...we literally know nothing about Sage.
gaunt star
WHM is eternal
unique verge
"Pure Healing" is the most misleading and stupid phrase ever
austere bear
SCH niche is support buff
rain onyx
Calling it meta right now is simply silly
unique verge
and people are taking it and running with it
cinder badger
Who cares about meta
random anvil
Man i feel bad for AST
cinder badger
Play what you want
rain onyx
And SCH’s toolkit can change in 6.0, along with the other healers
gaunt star
Who cares about meta
^ THIS
limber pivot
idk Pure Healing just means very little shield actions
austere bear
thats nice, but i like to be optimal
limber pivot
right?
rain onyx
There’s literally no resources we have on hand to optimize with
austere bear
so i am playing what i want
limber pivot
Sage TOP TIER HEALER???
rain onyx
austere bear
it depends on the number
limber pivot
Prog - Lf Sage ONLY
gaunt star
sage best dps tank and healer????
austere bear
but i highly doubt they support more than sch
limber pivot
inbf Sage is still boring like the other healers >:[
austere bear
hey they show off 2 dps spells
woeful dagger
And SCH’s toolkit can change in 6.0, along with the other healers
That's a good joke
gaunt star
They have to make it friendly to the casuals remember!!
limber pivot
1 dps spell, 1 doT, 1 AOE attack
rain onyx
We just need to go with the GUN meta strat
woeful dagger
First SE has to realize SCH exists
rain onyx
2 Gun Breakers, 2 Sages, 4 Machinists = 8 guns
austere bear
if they give them a 1080 pot laser beam
limber pivot
just make all classes like dps
woeful dagger
I'm not convinced they realize ACN can become a Job other than SMN
gaunt star
sage looks cool and all but i already know ill level it to 73 then lose all motivation to level and go back to my main class
random anvil
1 button for dps, 1 button for dot, 1 button for aoe, 1 or 2 buttons for class-based dps
unique verge
2 Gun Breakers, 2 Sages, 4 Machinists = 8 guns
Dont you mean 16 guns. 2x4 for SGE
woeful dagger
2 Gun Breakers, 2 Sages, 4 Machinists = 8 guns
You forgot the MCH mech has guns as well, and SGE has 4 guns. Thats like 16 gun group.
austere bear
also it looks like sage had a dark arts buff to their spells
woeful dagger
6.0 GNB should get to dual wield Gunblades
rain onyx
unique verge
You forgot the MCH mech has guns as well, and SGE has 4 guns. Thats like 16 gun ...
Queen punches. Doesnt have a gun.
woeful dagger
Queen punches. Doesnt have a gun.
It has a laser cannon on its shoulder
austere bear
i lost interest with SCH when SB released
random anvil
Queen itself is a gun that rams itself into enemies
rain onyx
I think end count is 14 guns since all the other jobs have 1 each and Sage has 4
cinder badger
@woeful dagger which it never uses
limber pivot
also it looks like sage had a dark arts buff to their spells
what if the "buff their spells" thing they said was just another Presence of Mind
tardy elm
lol
woeful dagger
@rain onyx cant wait until SGE big level 90 dps ability is to summon even more guns
austere bear
the aoe healing will be a laser show
rain onyx
austere bear
just lasers everywhere to the point you think its a line aoe marker
cinder badger
@woeful dagger could be a healing ability you know because it's a Healer
woeful dagger
If you kill the enemy faster, less healing is needed
austere bear
its probably alfinose spell in the trailer
woeful dagger
dps is healing!
cinder badger
@woeful dagger please just stay with DPS if that is your mentality
unique verge
DPS has always been healing.
gloomy shale
Is Sage out yet?
rain onyx
No.
limber pivot
please be trolling
drowsy ivy
yeah 6.0 released yesterday
cinder badger
I'm not afraid to kick healers out of my groups if they're going to be stupid
austere bear
healing wasnt a thing in ARR cause accuracy was thing back then
teal geyser
healing wasnt a thing in ARR cause accuracy was thing back then
also cleric stance
austere bear
then hw came out and was easier to meld
drowsy ivy
I'll sometimes kick healers if they get too uppity.
austere bear
and we needed the dps more than ever cause how gear gated everythign was
cleric stance was fun
gloomy shale
speaking of Cleric stance, with Seraph Strike in Bozja they should just add a scaled down one to healers in 6.0
cinder badger
It's little secret that a lot of healers feel their immune to criticism because people are afraid they won't get a replacement Healer but I don't have that fear
austere bear
i missed putting out 4 dots then bane everything in dungeons
austere bear
yea you messed up 2 mechanics you deserve to die. just like the current bozja raid
cinder badger
You know what also doesn't have Healers... BDO
limber pivot
Big Dick Online
austere bear
i find healing in this game really fun though
cinder badger
Might as well be called that
Healing is fine it's the people who played the healers that are the issue
drowsy ivy
It's little secret that a lot of healers feel their immune to criticism because ...
When they try that "I decide who lives or dies" roleplay bullshit
yeah nah bro sit your ass down gtfo my duty
cinder badger
People who want to play a DPS but don't want the long queue times that go with it
limber pivot
you pull, you tank 🤓
drowsy ivy
If you cant do the bear minimum of keeping people alive why would I keep you in my party
cinder badger
@limber pivot as a tank I fully understand this if somebody wants to ignore my lead and pull then I'm more than happy to oblige them
limber pivot
<@198602212824449025> as a tank I fully understand this if somebody wants to ign...
umm
its kinda just a waste of people's time to do that if you ask me
gaunt star
I find healers to be some of the most entitled players there are..
limber pivot
just grab aggro and continue the dungeon
drowsy ivy
like I get if its like a <60 dungeon
still kinda new so I can see why theye would do smaller pulls
but if its fucking Expert roulette
You better be doing wall to wall
Get your ass in gear.
gloomy shale
They should make side content where ihealers can group up and play their own game
drowsy ivy
If you want to pretend to have control over people go play the sims
strange summit
gaunt star
If you want to pretend to have control over people go play the sims
This
woeful dagger
like I get if its like a <60 dungeon
still kinda new so I can see why theye woul...
Some Expert Roulette tanks are only like 450 ilvl or something so on Gauntlet they can get shredded on the 2nd area W2W
gloomy shale
maybe they will use the casting set and it's a melee mage
strange summit
No class-related gear
limber pivot
no they said it will be Melee
austere bear
no they specifically said it was going to use maiming
limber pivot
and its probably going to use maiming since only DRG uses that
gaunt star
maybe they will use the casting set and it's a melee mage
@gloomy shale some folks think that may be the case with Templar possibly being that melee dps based on yoshi p's shirt
gloomy shale
DRG will lose it's unique identity of having it's own gear
austere bear
thats what the issue with the melees right now. as we got 3 lightly clothed dps and one armored one
cinder badger
I still don't understand that logic
strange summit
Can't you get clothe gear for DRG on sirensong sea dungeon ?
cinder badger
Ninja only uses scouting
drowsy ivy
Again they did not confirm omit will 100% be maiming
They just used drg as an example a melee dps
strange summit
Ez Friede cosplay to me
austere bear
it used to share clothing with mnk
limber pivot
DRG will lose it's unique identity of having it's own gear
i don't really understand this
like what about scouting?
gloomy shale
I was just trolling tbh
limber pivot
ohh ok
cinder badger
And Dragoon used to share armor with tanks
limber pivot
sounded a little too dumb imo
drowsy ivy
The style of armor doesn't fucking matter
woeful dagger
@strange summit the fending set from there is just a boob shirt lol it's funny
limber pivot
it kinda does
austere bear
maiming has very little skill speed i believe
strange summit
Ah shit really ?
austere bear
it make sense if they want to make a slow gcd melee class
since the 3/4 have 2.0 gcd usually
gloomy shale
but the real question is, will the new job "maim" ?
cinder badger
Striking is about the swiftness I see
drowsy ivy
All jobs maim
limber pivot
it would be kinda dumb if the new melee was Striking
drowsy ivy
!action maim
gaunt star
This logic I think makes a good case for templar
lusty shadowBOT
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limber pivot
and the hints dont really point towards Scouting if you ask me
gloomy shale
whoa WAR confirmed maiming set 6.0
gaunt star
It’s maiming
As the opposite of RDM, phys focus which may charge a magic ability with rotstion
*rotation
cinder badger
What if that was the significance of changing his shirt
austere bear
i dont mind scouting. but i like maiming better
limber pivot
As the opposite of RDM, phys focus which may charge a magic ability with rotstio...
like Paladin
cinder badger
Changing his shirt secretly means he's changing Warrior to a DPS
gaunt star
Lol
drowsy ivy
It’s maiming
Post a quote where they 100% say it's maiming.
Maybe I missed it but I do not recall any confirmation.
gloomy shale
that would be one hell of a twist lol
austere bear
its unusal cause villains usually have their own unique jobs
gaunt star
“Drg is the only job with maiming gear” roughly that’s what he said
cinder badger
Warriors being change from a tank to a DPS just imagine
gaunt star
Ergo we’re getting maiming
gloomy shale
people would lose their minds
limber pivot
its unusal cause villains usually have their own unique jobs
i wouldn't be surprised if Zenos had the new class bc he was SAM in SB
unique verge
Its so close to confirmed that if it was anything but maiming it would be very silly.
Not to mention that maiming is simply logical due to imbalance on accessory slot between DRG vs. NIN
limber pivot
yea
drowsy ivy
“Drg is the only job with maiming gear” roughly that’s what he said
That's a hell a hell of a stretch
gloomy shale
maybe they will be the only job that uses belts
cinder badger
I would laugh so hard if that's what it turns out to be
gaunt star
Not much more of a stretch than everyone saying it was gonna be chemist after the “apothecary” nonsense
drowsy ivy
By that logic it could easily be scouting
unique verge
Reposting from #translations-and-liveletters
■6.0の新たな近接DPSジョブについて
Regarding the new Melee DPS
・竜騎士だけ特殊な立ち位置なので枠だけ言ってしまうとそこに足すことなったので、6.0新ジョブは近接DPSに決定した
"Since DRG is currently at a special position, if we're only talking about slots it was natural we add it there. Which is why we decided on having melee DPS as our second new job."
Unless you need him to specifically say the words "The new job is maiming", that should be good enough.
gaunt star
The new job will definitely be maiming potionsmaster who beats people up with a shovel
gloomy shale
Won't the job be a little too similar to DRK in theme?
drowsy ivy
Unironically it would be nice if they did.
Because that equally fits Ninja as well.
unique verge
It doesnt
drowsy ivy
unique verge
DRG shares accessories with 2 other jobs, for a total of 3
NIN shares accessories with 3 other jobs, for a total of 4
This makes DRG uniquely the "least competitive" job in terms of gear acquisition
except for healers currently, and SGE balances that
drowsy ivy
Who gives a shit about accessories
It's the left side that matters.
cinder badger
Now that you said that
gloomy shale
except for belts
cinder badger
Yoshida is going to look at accessories for removal
drowsy ivy
Belts are legit getting deleted
cinder badger
Did somebody just say belts
gloomy shale
hell yeah
gaunt star
Omg save the belts I can’t live without them!!! Can you believe actual equipment will drop from the first bosses in alliance raids now this can’t be happening
cinder badger
gloomy shale
belts felt so good to drop
digital forge
i can farm for amon's hat now...
viscid monolith
What was their reasoning for not getting rid of the second ring slot?
digital forge
ahahaha suckers I ALREADY GOT IT
drowsy ivy
What was their reasoning for not getting rid of the second ring slot?
Fashion
cinder badger
@viscid monolith because they didn't feel like it
digital forge
basically that the ring is also a cosmetic thing
unique verge
What was their reasoning for not getting rid of the second ring slot?
He siad something along the lines of "because its visible"
digital forge
you can see them on your hands
cinder badger
Yeah but they look stupid because they sit on your index finger
drowsy ivy
Unironically for fashion.
gloomy shale
I've never actually looked at a ring
digital forge
and if you ever look at yoshi-p's hands
cinder badger
I just use the emperor's new ring for glamour
gloomy shale
time to add 8 more rings
austere bear
he has more rings than tom brady
gloomy shale
let's make it happen
cinder badger
If the ring was on your ring finger I wouldn't mind but because both Rings sit on each index finger it looks stupid
drowsy ivy
Little known lore. Yoshi wears a ring for every developer he used as a blood sacrifice to keep XIV going
austere bear
also the CEO chained him into ffxiv
gaunt star
A shame he sacrificed all the 3D artists instead of the ui team
austere bear
you the only live service game that makes money
gloomy shale
imagine the min max if there was a ring for each finger
austere bear
you cannot leave
digital forge
do you think this man would remove rings
viscid monolith
Good point
gloomy shale
he would remove belts
cinder badger
The next melee job is going to use rings as a weapon
gloomy shale
ringmaster 7.0
gaunt star
yoshi p the true lord of the rings
woeful dagger
do you think this man would remove rings
Yes
gaunt star
Ninja should be an evasion tank!!
digital forge
zzz
digital forge
we've already had this convo since NIN released
woeful dagger
Why doesn't Samurai or Ninja have Throw Gil
rain onyx
So you mean a tank that’s either weak as hell or overpowered
cinder badger
What in the fuck is evasion tank anyway
rain onyx
You mitigate damage by not getting hit at all
woeful dagger
Dodging a lot of attacks as your form of mitigation
unique verge
Evasion tanks are a trope from old MMO's
They NEVER work out
They're either complete shit or god-like overpowered
cinder badger
It's like the biggest oxymoron
digital forge
cough cough WoW Brewmaster
woeful dagger
Guardian Druid is pretty alright but dodging isn't its only mitigation
gaunt star
I have the solution: make it a limited job
rain onyx
Pretty sure Brewmaster isn’t evasion
digital forge
partially evasion
unique verge
Brewmaster is "smoothing" for lack of a better way of saying it.
drowsy ivy
isnt brew the one that turns damage into a fat dot on itself?
digital forge
ye
cinder badger
Take a real life tank for example
unique verge
"Evasion Tank" is what happened back in WoW TBC
cinder badger
It's not exactly built to evade shit
autumn vortex
MFW they add dlc but they dont add a do the mario emote 😫
unique verge
when rogues figured out thy could actually hit 100% evasion rate against bosses
flat merlin
autumn vortex
Evasion tank but every mitigation is a dragoon backflip
drowsy ivy
taking tank too literal
mechanically their purpose is to hold aggro and survive big hits
Evasion either has to be on command or an RNG chance
on command is too powerful and RNG is not consistent enouggh
drowsy ivy
MFW they add dlc but they dont add a do the mario emote 😫
bro tf you talking about
autumn vortex
bro tf you talking about
a joke
rain onyx
Where’s my default dance to use after killing Zenos for the final time
autumn vortex
ikr
kind lark
You're saying we even kill him?
kind lark
Living deus ex machina
viscid glade
GEE ZENOS
rain onyx
It can be a fucking pebble in the middle of the road
viscid glade
HOW COME YOSHI P LET YOU BE IN 3 EXPANSIONS
autumn vortex
Zenos implodes after being so thicc that he creates a black hole
honest bobcat
He will out himself again just so we don't get the pleasure
cinder badger
@viscid glade because he's our friend
unique verge
If Zenos suicides AGAIN that's gonna be a pretty big yikes in the writing department
viscid glade
suicidal friend
drowsy ivy
I hope we throw him off one of those spooky towers
cinder badger
Final Fantasy XIV Friendwalker
drowsy ivy
He only calls you friened because you are the only one who can match his blood lust
thats deep bro
woeful dagger
zenos should be more menacing
Why? He's definitely flamboyant
cinder badger
Wait is that somebody's fanart
austere bear
ye
cinder badger
It is going to be absolutely hilarious if it turns out that that thing that they keep thinking is a scythe is not a scythe
cinder badger
Everybody jumping the gun
unique verge
People are so convinced its a scythe with next to no evidence
cinder badger
It's clearly a weapon because even in the shot after you can see he's holding on to something
rain onyx
The Zenos screenshot has too little detail to clearly tell what it is
cinder badger
He's got the other arm reached out as if he's holding something but I'm not saying it's a scythe
For all we know it could just be a great sword
He could be pulling the old Ganon
unreal hound
zenos botanist zenos botanist
gaunt star
Don't farm delebrum normal I'm 35 runs in and haven't even got a gold coin
rain onyx
I definitely think the new melee job having a scythe is a possibility, but as for Zenos it’s hard to tell
unique verge
He's got the other arm reached out as if he's holding something but I'm not sayi...
I dont really see that at all.
honest bobcat
Clearly its a fishing rod
drowsy ivy
It does look more like a pick axe than a scythe
austere bear
lol i want a meme of zenos doing botany on a farm
drowsy ivy
I dont think a greatsword would fit him
Hes more of an elegant killer than a brute slayer
coral kite
It does look more like a pick axe than a scythe
Zenos has decided he wants to 1v1 us in minecraft
unique verge
This is the first frame of the second shot. I dont see him "reaching out" so to speak.
coral kite
austere bear
oh he does have new clothes
unique verge
Yes he does
cinder badger
The shoulder is lifted and not slouched his arm is clearly extended
unreal hound
cinder badger
See how he's leaning to the side
honest bobcat
I dont think a greatsword would fit him
Hes more of an elegant killer than a br...
He's an elegant savage slayer
austere bear
i dont think it be scouting. having 5 jobs competing for acc is gonna be suffering
rain onyx
If that’s a scythe then it’s a pretty small one, assuming that top bit has the blade
drowsy ivy
from the angle it almost seems like it would be behind him on that seat
unreal hound
is this his sexy dissidia jacket?
cinder badger
So if his arm was not outstretched towards something even if it was just the arm of the other side of the throne then the shoulder would be slouched
drowsy ivy
nah bro I dont see it being outsretched at all
ember steeple
really it looks the same color as the chair so i'm more inclined to think it's part of a fucked up chair since it's near the realm of strange shaped interiors
drowsy ivy
they have a Datacenter travel in the works.
gaunt star
If it's a scythe it's a really ugly one
unreal hound
man zenos is hot
unique verge
Not "unseparate"
unreal hound
austere bear
it doesn't seem to be attached to anything
drowsy ivy
likely with MANY restrictions
drowsy ivy
I wonder what happened to his golfbag
unique verge
Left it with the caddy
ember steeple
cross datacenter travel might be moreso for visiting houses/community events since they mentioned heavier restrictions vs world visit
unreal hound
he stepped on them
austere bear
elidibus most likely chucked it
unique verge
I do hope the final showdown is on top of that tower
That seems like an excellent backdrop to murder Zenos in
kind lark
which tower is it though?
austere bear
its proably on the moon
open verge
Garlemald
austere bear
while the backdrop is the world burning
open verge
Wasn’t that a garlean ship dropping
austere bear
and the theme song with lyrics kicks in
unique verge
I doubt it. The trailer implies pretty heavily that Zenos is gazing at the moon knowing we are there.
austere bear
yes
unique verge
Which implies he's waiting for us to come back
unreal hound
oh zenos jacket is red now
gaunt star
And at the beginning of the trailer we approach something on the moon
gloomy shale
the new job
unreal hound
the bimboification of zenos yae galvus
heady shadow
heres my thought on it #retired-patch-6-3-discussion message
unreal hound
austere bear
i be down for double saber
somber storm
unreal hound
heady shadow
but ye so, this is just a thought i was thinking that would make sense but also not leave it just to it being a scythe
kind lark
A quick shout-out to Soken
gaunt star
Looking at the solution they put into the samurai shirt
It's possible it's not the graphic
open verge
Could be Templar who knows
austere bear
yoship made it emphasis that he liked the director
gaunt star
But there was like 2 reaper type shirts he put on yeah?
austere bear
yoship gave no such hints about it
gaunt star
Were they both the same
austere bear
i mean about the director of the movie
open verge
I still think no one is getting the job name correct
austere bear
yea the first shirt was a movie and the 2nd one was a band
kind lark
I still think no one is getting the job name correct
what name is it then?
gaunt star
The job will be: Director
It could literally just be an existing class with a unique weapon like sage
austere bear
call it Hunter
then we can have our bloodborne memes
I mean isn't zenos all about that hunt?
gaunt star
I mean the lvl 80 cryptlurker maiming gear pretty much the grim reaper so
woeful dagger
It'll be Beast Tamer. They could use scythes in FF11
unique verge
I just dont see Beast Tamer / Beastmaster as a viable job to make non-limited.
heady shadow
anyway if i happen to be right about zenos weapon then I'll deny anything about being an SE employee
gaunt star
Whatever job it turns out to be I hope they genderlock it 😊
austere bear
we got three months
woeful dagger
"I'll be here if you need me" was on the grim reaper shirt. Something a pet would "say" to its master (or vice versa)
austere bear
i have NGS and Nier to play
prime verge
in full trailer zenos busts in as a necromancer
austere bear
lol
heady shadow
i finished Ys9 so....need to finish other games
prime verge
i recently rewatched the announcement showcase and the fact that "fandaniel has a big secret" didnt process in my head the first time i watched so now im like 👀 👀
kind lark
He has a crush on estinien
woeful dagger
i recently rewatched the announcement showcase and the fact that "fandaniel has ...
It's that he's not an Ascian but an even more ancient race that has an even more ancient primal that sets the stage for 6.1
prime verge
He has a crush on estinien
he wouldnt be the first
prime verge
It's that he's not an Ascian but an even more ancient race that has an even more...
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
woeful dagger
WoL about to fight the Big Bang itself
kind lark
he wouldnt be the first
The queue is long and I'm still in it
gloomy shale
Carl Sagan is the final boss of the expansion
prime verge
Carl Sagan is the final boss of the expansion
i-
zenos actually fuses with fandaniel steven universe style
thats the real final boss
unique verge
Still think there's a fairly high liklihood of Fandaniel getting offed by Zenos before we get the chance
prime verge
thats a very real possibility
heady shadow
fandaniel's secret is he is ||Lavos' servant and spread the keening||
woeful dagger
Are we gonna have to kill the creator of the universe at some point
prime verge
fandaniel is more interesting than zenos imo so itd be a shame
gloomy shale
Thanos crossover
prime verge
Are we gonna have to kill the creator of the universe at some point
we find venat's secret house and rock his shit
drowsy ivy
Are we gonna have to kill the creator of the universe at some point
Its not a JRPG unless we kill god
prime verge
Are we gonna have to kill the creator of the universe at some point
the fact that theres a possiblity we'll be fighting zodiark is so fucking funny to me
who would win? an all powerful elder primal representative of the will of the original star or one paladin on steroids
kind lark
If we kill hydaelyn, we'll just be called warrior
all classes besides warrior get deleted
random ravine
i think he is the least likable protagonist in the series
gloomy shale
Zodiark is no match for Blu Mage
unique verge
i think he is the least likable protagonist in the series
That's a pretty late reply lmao
prime verge
we make zodiark and hydaelyn kill each other
random ravine
yea for some reason this instance of discord on my browser got stuck at your message as the last message
prime verge
then emet rises from the dead, gives us a high five then dies again
woeful dagger
Maybe Necron makes a return
gloomy shale
So what happened with the multiverse or whatever it was called?
woeful dagger
Let's kill the personification of Death itself
gloomy shale
ah interesting
prime verge
graha tia said fuck those bitches
unique verge
Its not like there was any choice
gloomy shale
I skipped through some of it and lost track
prime verge
LOL
unique verge
the alternate timeline was always doomed, and they knew it
prime verge
basically alternate timeline ppl said fuck graha go fix this, yeeted graha into the first and made him save our world
heady shadow
the thing is
prime verge
however i think they showed the timeline still exists
prime verge
i wonder how tho
heady shadow
(hydealyn seems to be suicidal anyway)
prime verge
thats a massive feat even for one overpowered warrior of light
unique verge
Idk if "we" will be killing them
But i expect both of them to be dead / gone by the end
prime verge
i doubt its gonna be a boss fight hades style
heady shadow
oh no
prime verge
but im sure they will be "resolved" in some way
heady shadow
its going to be five phases
prime verge
KJNKJDSGFKADSFKJASDKJFNDASKJF
heady shadow
xemnas style
prime verge
oh please god no not the lasers
prime verge
active time maneuver except zodiark and hydaelyn morph into xemnas and shoot you full of lasers
heady shadow
lets gooooo
gloomy shale
sage style
heady shadow
gloomy shale
How does Anima fit into all of this?
prime verge
i feel like its just gonna be a big trial in the middle of 6.0
unique verge
I do tend to wonder if we're going to get another scene where we speak to Hydaelyn directly.
gloomy shale
Isn't Anima = Death?
heady shadow
she Fits the appearence
unique verge
Kinda feel like we should be given a chance to air our grievances / ask "what the actual fuck, Venat"
before the end
prime verge
I do tend to wonder if we're going to get another scene where we speak to Hydael...
i wonder about this too. since the scions have refrained from referring to hydaelyn as mother or any such shit since emet dropped that bomb on them, i wonder how theyre gonna acknowledge her
heady shadow
prime verge
scawy
woeful dagger
Punch me mommy Anima
heady shadow
gloomy shale
If you thought Hades was spooky Anima says hold my scythe
woeful dagger
Reminder we're getting an FF14 version of Anima
prime verge
cant wait to confront zenos and fannypack in garlemald and tell them "damn bitch u live like this"
prime verge
If you thought Hades was spooky Anima says hold my scythe
hades was sexy wdym
woeful dagger
Her bottom might be even more scary
prime verge
BSJHDBFJHASDF
random ravine
If you thought Hades was spooky Anima says hold my scythe
the spookiest boss was the decapitated head in tam tara deepcroft
nothing beats that
gloomy shale
idk the scariest thing is probably King moggle mog or w.e
prime verge
spookiest boss was rihtahtyn sas arvina
random ravine
actually what's the story behind anima, anyone know?
woeful dagger
Spookiest boss was the Mansion Butler. He went doot doot.
heady shadow
uh
kind lark
This is Halloween
heady shadow
shes seymours mom used for the final summon ti kill sin
random ravine
yea
gloomy shale
Anima represents darkness in death, in regards to FFX
random ravine
whichever game she's in
prime verge
i still gotta play 10
woeful dagger
Anima is Seymour's mother who became Anima to try and show her love for her son and help him beat Sin but when Seymour bound her, she learned his inner plans and thus is why she joins Yuna
heady shadow
though i wonder if they might do something like this one here too
gloomy shale
I'm glad to see some more FFX though
heady shadow
well, we learned that the ffx artist is part of the ffxiv team
lusty shadowBOT
Warning issued for YnneSolace#5457 on Final Fantasy XIV
brisk quail
woeful dagger
@teal geyser who are you
teal geyser
Very excited for Anima
Same
brisk quail
You know what I want? Big thicc elephant primal
teal geyser
makes me wonder if we'll get another FFX boss or something
woeful dagger
Where's Cali
brisk quail
Like we're talking like lakshmi when big chonk
teal geyser
I left the server so...
gloomy shale
We could fight SIn
woeful dagger
But why
teal geyser
Because I hate everyone
woeful dagger
Love you too boo
balmy mesa
wrong tag 
balmy mesa
nooo, chat moved just as I hit reply
woeful dagger
FFX aeons are lame compared to Eikons and Eidolons
brisk quail
Valefor is just laser winged puppy
teal geyser
Anima
brisk quail
Valefor bad
plucky stump
Is this the orange expansion?
brisk quail
FF stole from Monsterhunter.
Which stole from mythology. Confirmed
lament breach
FFX was great. Then I had this horrible fever dream about a game called FFX-2 but thankfully that never really happened so we're gucci
Although yeah Ixion was a bit rubbish lol
woeful dagger
@teal geyser what about twincest ff13
brisk quail
FFX was great. Then I had this horrible fever dream about a game called FFX-2 bu...
I had a dream they made Versus 13 and it was a global hit
woeful dagger
For Shiva
brisk quail
teal geyser
FFX was great. Then I had this horrible fever dream about a game called FFX-2 bu...
I had that fever dream too, it pulled me in at the start because it was really good but then Yuna just turned into a monster
gaunt star
woeful dagger
Are you actually dissing X-2 rn lmao
teal geyser
<@207811544925339648> what about twincest ff13
Their wheel hair scares me
brisk quail
I had a dream that the 3rd step of the new relic only took 5 DR runs
heady shadow
Its possible we are getting the Sisters
brisk quail
heady shadow
Magus sisters?
gaunt star
FFX-2>FFX
heady shadow
i think?
woeful dagger
Square has never made a battle system as good as the dress sphere system
gaunt star
Hard agree!!
brisk quail
Square has never made a battle system as good as the dress sphere system
Triple Triad: exists
woeful dagger
?
brisk quail
Just have every battle be a triple triad battle /s
plucky stump
woeful dagger
Tetra Master is better than Triple Triad
brisk quail
They said platinum is a better color description.
woeful dagger
!ban @gaunt star
brisk quail
So this is the platinum colored expac
heady shadow
tmb thats a no
gaunt star
its not allowed to use mod commands
heady shadow
dont make me call a blue
gaunt star
call a blue
woeful dagger
amab
heady shadow
okay just becavuse I'll actually call a blue why should I lol
gaunt star
because u must
heady shadow
nah
wind bough
gaunt star
heady shadow
none of the ones that probably dont mind me bugging them are on right now
thin crypt
heady shadow
Ye, Azem reference
gaunt star
gaunt star
when we getting our Azem sigil tho
worn bloom
We aren't an Ascian so uh never?
woeful dagger
Azem more like AzZzZzem cause their story puts me to sleep
worn bloom
Those grapes though
viscid glade
azem steppe
prime verge
We aren't an Ascian so uh never?
yes we are 6.0 trailer's big reveal wasnt moon or paladin or any of that, in 6.0 we finally morph into an ascian guys
its our destiny
worn bloom
Whatever floats your boat.
woeful dagger
We aren't an Ascian so uh never?
We technically are. An Ascian is one bestowed power by an unsundered. Of which we are.
heady shadow
its just a name sundered peopled called them
worn bloom
There is a little more to it than being unsundered.
There were plenty of ascians in the story that were sundered.
woeful dagger
@worn bloom you misunderstand. Ascians are sundered bestowed power by an unsundered.
heady shadow
Emet still made their stone in secret anyway
gaunt star
emet best bro
worn bloom
I was saying that being unsundered or not has nothing to do with being an Ascian.
woeful dagger
The unsundered aren't Ascians. They consider themselves still the Convocation. The sundered minions are who are Ascians
gaunt star
the black masked ascians are the minions
prime verge
Yeah but we aren’t ascended like fandaniel
gaunt star
red masks are convocation members
gaunt star
well we are still rejoined with some of our other parts
prime verge
Yeah
heady shadow
well we didnt find it
prime verge
That is true
heady shadow
it was given to us
prime verge
We’re like half rejoined
gaunt star
prime verge
Maybe that’s why we’re so op lol
gaunt star
ember forum
Look what I got hehe, now just 16 more rabanaste
prime verge
it was given to us
Yep
worn bloom
Not sure why they want us to grind out some of the longest group content in the game ugh.
woeful dagger
Yeah the funny part is, every Rejoining makes the WoL stronger
ember forum
I am not looking forward to rabanste at all
woeful dagger
Because another fragment of Azem rejoins
worn bloom
I like the Ivalice raids, but not enough to repeat it 18 times in a row.
prime verge
Yeah the funny part is, every Rejoining makes the WoL stronger
Ardbert was our eighth rejoining
So we are literally half rejoined
It can explain why we are so powerful
worn bloom
Makes sense
ember forum
I am not a fan of ivalice, makes it harder for me
gaunt star
but if Zodiark was the one who was shattered, why is it hydaelyn thats shattered too?
worn bloom
I believe the game does make a point that each of our equivalents are their own person regardless if they share the same origin.
prime verge
but if Zodiark was the one who was shattered, why is it hydaelyn thats shattered...
She isn’t tho isn’t she
raven shadow
Not sure why they want us to grind out some of the longest group content in the ...
Anything to make clear content relevant again....unless certain future content will require all the raids but even then that's a bit far-fetched.
gaunt star
not sure lmfao just saw people discussing it since the trailer
prime verge
I believe the game does make a point that each of our equivalents are their own ...
Yea but regardless of that we’re still rejoined with eight of our shards
spare warren
yo
worn bloom
Not debating that
spare warren
those the End Walker song ever gave you guys Bionicles vibes?
gaunt star
Emet was 100% sure we are Azem when we rejoined with Ardbert too
tho he made the stone earlier 
heady shadow
its been a long while since i heard bionicle tunes
and there is a ton of them so.....
prime verge
Emet was 100% sure we are Azem when we rejoined with Ardbert too <a:PaimonCookie...
Perhaps our eighth rejoining aka ardbert was the catalyst to emet’s recognizing of us
teal geyser
She isn’t tho isn’t she
nothing says she is
prime verge
tho he made the stone earlier <:thonk:363368097362608140>
He made the stone in secret a very long time before we even existed
worn bloom
I think he suspected for a long while before Ardbert joined with us.
It's why he was trying out that new plan that involved him being oddly helpful.
gaunt star
he did throw hints around
prime verge
nothing says she is
Right, it’s only explicitly said that zodiark was shattered and imprisoned
prime verge
It's why he was trying out that new plan that involved him being oddly helpful.
Yeah! I feel like that too, he probably sensed something in us but didn’t realize exactly what till later
Still in my feelings from emet in 5.3 lol
gaunt star
emet alive in 6.3
worn bloom
I think a part of him liked being with the WoL and Scions.
gaunt star
Kapp
prime verge
I think a part of him liked being with the WoL and Scions.
I’m sure of that, his whole reason for even following us around was some kind of faith in us
worn bloom
Just not enough to give up on his plans.
prime verge
He gave up once he realized we were not strong enough to contain the light ie not strong enough to join him or carry on his legacy
I’m sure he was kinda hoping he’d be proven wrong
worn bloom
Most of the villains in ShB I had a degree of sympathy for.
kind lark
Talking about emet makes me sad ;-;
How about ran'jit?
prime verge
LMAO JDJSJDMDMMSS
prime verge
How about ran'jit?
Fuck that guy, I only care about than’jit
teal geyser
Fuck that guy, I only care about than’jit
what about that'jit?
prime verge
He's having one hell of a vacation
Emet is just chilling in the livestream
woeful dagger
emet was a boring villain
prime verge
what about that'jit?
That guy is sexy
radiant pollen
Look what I got hehe, now just 16 more rabanaste
i'm glad i never have to do that again
worn bloom
Even the unapologetic Vaulthry I had a bit of pity for considering he basically had zero chance to be a decent person due to his father and Emet's schemes (before he was born).
prime verge
emet was a boring villain
You would get crucified in some spaces for saying this 😭😭😭
cosmic herald
I'm going to ditch Genshin Impact when Endwalker comes out
woeful dagger
You would get crucified in some spaces for saying this 😭😭😭
Truth can hurt
heady shadow
better then Ardyn
woeful dagger
Ehhhh
prime verge
Even the unapologetic Vaulthry I had a bit of pity for considering he basically ...
Yeah I liked vauthry actually, he was annoying at times but I rlly felt for him after u learn more about him
woeful dagger
Ardyn was more a literary device
worn bloom
Does excuse anything he did but he was pretty much setup to be an awful person before he was born.
prime verge
Emet is a literal walking lore bomb
cosmic herald
I haven't been this active since 5.2
heady shadow
heres my thought on Valthry.
He is what Alphinaud would have become
if he stiull went ot be a little shit
prime verge
He is what Alphinaud would have become
Yeah that’s a cool comparison, I think the game alludes to this at some point too
worn bloom
I think thats why he was so disgusted with him.
teal geyser
I think that's absolutely an exaggeration
prime verge
Yeah exactly
teal geyser
but yes
worn bloom
He saw too much of himself there.
woeful dagger
Emet was too wasnt he
I more mean Ardyn's purpose is to show that Bahamut isn't a strictly good guy and to show the dangers of blindly following Dogma.
prime verge
Also even if vauthry was a kinder person he was doomed from the start
I have not played 15 yet
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woeful dagger
Emet doesn't really introduce new ideals, only to remove false realities.
worn bloom
Yeah
If he was a decent person he would have had realized he had to go at some point.
prime verge
Emet doesn't really introduce new ideals, only to remove false realities.
I mean, I would argue that emet brings about an interesting plot point about how not everything dark is evil and not everything light is good
gaunt star
Vauthry was the Zenos of the first
prime verge
Oh god
worn bloom
Like when Alphinaud insulted him and it took him a few minutes after he left to realize he was insulted.
worn bloom
I don't hate Zenos he works more as a force of nature kind of villain.
He's there to move the plot forward and little else.
kind lark
I found him shouting while walking down the tiny stairs funny
prime verge
Yeah, that’s one part of the fan/zenos dynamic I like. That fandaniel complements zenos’s monotoneness with crazy flamboyance
worn bloom
It's a good contrast.
worn bloom
But I had a what if scenario in my head. What if Fandaniel took Illberds body instead?
prime verge
Oh god
I feel it wouldn’t work as well
Bc asahi has history w zenos and Ilberd does not
worn bloom
It was a pure memeness that fueled that idea.
prime verge
I know