#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
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Anyone fought lyse in that one scene with a book?
other than sycthe/templar what other theories are there?
yes she's on that palm thing against monklander
Exactly.
ye at may probs
@shell isle Ghostbuster job
sick
We're in Ala Mhigo, Derplander is a Monk, story wise we meet Zenos in Ala Mhigo and we get fucked by him, we go to Kugane and become Samurai like him.
but how did that become samurai Lyse? what?
I hope for a ring
same
Sucking those aether-ghosts into our vacuum cleaner
need me ring to pair with shb earings
also look at what you got me to do, lol @glossy rose
@balmy mesa Perfect. :3
They better have Lulu collecting all the belts
nah they gonna make a Nomura NPC
nah, calamity salvager redesign
Also, my logic was that Virtus is saying that we're following the CG events, and the CG events is that a Monk gets defeated by Zenos and then the Monk goes and becomes a Samurai 'cause Zenos is effectively a Samurai.
So, by that logic, if my sleep-riddled mind is right, Lyse would've been a Samurai.
But she ain't.
So I don't think we're copying Zenos.
Lyse doesnt have the mental capacity for two jobs
I dont know what the fuck Bertha means
what does lyse have to do with any class
I'm thinking Language barrier
Guys Zenos next job is Songstress
But who knows
FF11 gave Dark Knights, Scythes right? if the new DPS is probably maiming, it'll be a a heavy armored "Knight-like" DPS with a scythe, or a hammer.
maiming gear is already the tank set with a different color
...Can you really maim a dude with a hammer?

Zenos will ask WoL what can he do for him
Someone made nearly 10-hour loop of the new trailer... https://youtu.be/Jm1Mzft8rLc
the guy that originally made it doesn't wanna reply to my comments, but heres the original, go sub to him instead https://youtu.be/SOkr7AriYoA
So it'll be scythe then
I can't hear you
@robust atlas Sometimes, you just gotta take the moon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMknIXAd-UM
Also the real conclusion to 6.0
You know there's gonna be someone who talks about people on the moon.
And someone who disbelieves it.
Hildibrand
I wanna know how the fuck that giant ass tower gets created in Garlemald
That clip will be Estinien in MSQ yelling at us
This is Robert Baratheon from ASOIAF with a warhammer
"But the moon"
"WE'RE ON A MISSION SHUT UP"
We build a Megazord and go to the moon
Venat is still inside Hydaelyn, buddy
look 'buddy' im just memeing
Rowena gives us a giant tomestone made of all the tomestones she has been given by players

And we ride it to the moon
Actually this pic of Robert vs Rhaegar is like... Hammer Knight vs Dragoon already lel
Still though, we need hammers as a weapon type.
with similar lean-looking armour
Gaia
reskinned axes
just add more hammer glams for trashwars
Holy shit Gaia becomes DPS Role quest NPC

"I dont fucking know it just works okay"
[Quest complete]
plus Gaia is using some of her ascian powers
Along with the mastery of the hammer you also get free lip injections
And some good makeup skills hopefully
Gaia we know those lips are fake
Like, she literally is.
wait did they slip a new primal crafted weapon into the recent patch?
hm? which one?
The other thing with Scythe, for me, is im having a really hard time envisioning a fighting style for it that looks plausible but doesnt just look like it copied DRG's homework
whatever primal Demon is from
no
that was 5.4 I think
and it was zurvan
yknow what I hope for
more glowy weapons from primals
hmm I'm just now seeing it , was it the only one they added?
they went back and added glowy weapons for all past primals
bc I legit hate how fucked gnb and dnc got
their only glowy weapon from primals is shinryu
even after suzaku and tsukuyomi weapons were added, gnb and dnc didn't get those
And the shinryu gunblade looks like ass
they didn't even get glams from t13 and alexander
time and resources better spent elsewhere
I dont think a single primal weapon in th game actually looks good
Chaos Thrust, Wheeling Thrust, Coerthan Torment, Raiden Thrust, and to a lesser degree Fang and Claw all look like movesets that would go with a Scythe, since its functionally just a less useful spear
People circlejerk all day long about glowy primal weapons and I just don't get it.
That's you though
It is
I kind of hate the vast majority of glowing weapons
I like the Bokuto, Level 50 Katana and the Gordian Katana and thats it.
People like to see their weapons glow
430 Katana is cool too.
I do indeed yes
Some people just need to be peacocks
Like, glowing weapons to me is just distracting more than anything. I dont like it.
I like seeing my weapon glow and I cannot fucking wait until I get the current rdm relic done
Personal preference really, i generally don't like glowy weapons and wish i can disable it on my character but i'm not fighting for that.
Ramuh Katana fucks tbh
ast anima also fits so well with my glam
i like to feel the design as solid matter really.
FFX is my favourite game of all time so seeing Anima made me so happy
same
Gunromaru is still one of the best Katana and sheath in the game.
Now bring on Blitzball
BLITZBALL FUCK YEAH
hopefully they add the Auron outfit
I've seen way more people get hyped about Blitzball than the opposite, I'm so happy 
10+4 = 14 
That's some big brain calculation
I don’t remember bliztball as an even a remotely enjoyable mini game
i'm currently on my alt so i wish i could use my emotes
I don't like Blitzball, I think it's garbage, the reason why I don't complain about it is because Triple Triad already exists in XIV and thats all I care about for Minigames.
before this sets alarms, i'm just using this because my main is fucking 100 servers full.
I'm pretty sure a lot of it is a meme? people didn't like it in the og ff, let alone in 14's engine
yeah but see, I couldn't give less of a shit about triple triad
I feel the opposite really.
My only issue with TT is the limits on 4 star cards which maybe they are fucking finally easing.,
didn't that get eased this patch?
I love FF9 but i wouldn't want Tetra Master to come back.
There's one other.....silly thought in my head regarding a way to explain the "scythe" thing with it it being a scythe. It could be a reference to the blade being curved rather than being a scythe itself. Which, given that we're about to head off to India Radz-at-Han, could be a reference to traditional weapons from that region.
gods no
The LL suggests they are easing it in 5.5
Blitzball could turn out to be great cause it's an 8v8 pvp mode with 3 classes to level up. Goalkeeper, Defender Attacker
But we dont know how much by
Blitzball feels perfect for FFXIV
Eh? It's consistently one of the most loved mini game
if it's a straight polearm kind of weapon, DRG kind of already has glams for that
there's also curved blade glams for pld
Yes, and as ive said before, Scythes as an actual weapon are just.....kind of inferior to DRG spears.
hell with how it could possibly be designed
You and I got a different meaning of “consistently”
i can easily see it becoming pretty rewarding for folks to return to.
Blitzball is unnecessary
that's if blitz is happening.
Yeah Blitzball in FFX felt broken as fuck, all the strats to beat it came down to cheesing the AI and making them bug.
well, one of my friends couldn't stand blitzball, but another went full fantasy league, so...
it's kinda a mix of both
the appeal is there
I think the idea is okay I just dont know how anyone enjoyed that iteration of it
But I dont really like FFX as a whole
FFX's blitzball was flawed but i can see a modern take in XIV being real gnarly.
Idk in all of my FF forums experience Blitzball is definitely high rated compared to any of the other ones
That is cause of the Ai which by being an 8v8 pvp fixes that
I can’t wait for it to become the next Lord of Verminion
TT is pretty fun, but also had a ton of cheese strats
As long as you have Jecht Shot, FFX Blitzball is easy to cheese
I bet the minigame is Snowboarding and everyone gets fucked.
Is the Mega Live Letter/Media tour going to be in August/September now?
LoV is interesting actually, but i never really minded it much.
I'd be hyped for that.
Blitzball or I'm joining Zenos
Lowkey want the Remake to go all out on the snowboarding segment
May Fan Fest will have more deets
this is going to be my first expansion i catch during launch.
pretty interested to see the gap between 5.5 to 6.0
I hope they tell us more about role/job changes going into 6.0
hoping they don't mess too much with GNB.
Need more evolving buttons
As ive griped about before, there's no reason the Gnashing Fang combo should exist as three buttons.
I disagree with that.
Only change on GNB is that I want now is Bloodfest not having a target requirement
It's simple but i enjoy pressing it and the things go pow blam ka-blowey
yeah bloodfest is my only gripe
gives me dopamine
i don't see how that's a problem either.
same shit
Because GNB has too many buttons
What about PLD then?
I do think bloodfest needs that adjustment fr fr.
24 should be the 'sweet spot' of button quantity of non-role / non-general buttons
PLD is slightly heavy on this as well, but not as bad as GNB
Chocobo racing
Yeah if they change Bloodfest, Gunbreaker would be perfect
agreed
Bloodfest not needing a target would be awful because then you'd have people doing 90s countdowns
What I want added in 6.0 is another cartridge and more mitigation
But 3rd one will be a super shot xD
maybe it's personal but i always enjoyed pressing a lot of buttons when playing ffxiv
makes me feel like i have control over the animations and actions.
I'm not saying it should have like 3
Gunbreaker feels awesome to play compared to other tanks. Its basically a dps with tank tools
I want that same feeling with Sage
im saying that when you start forcing a class into having 3 hotbars keybound to function, its detrimental to the experience. Gnashing Fang is just one option for a way to trim that down.
The best defense is offense
They have been on point with the newer job designs so I trust Sage will feel good
I main BLM
lol
I just want fire 1 removed from the level 90 rotation lol
BLM is perfect. You can fully bind it on two hotbars.
BLM has 3 hotbars of buttons.
idk how theyd improve blm
yeah there's probably some useless buttons but generally speaking it's a lot to pack in
BLM does not have 3 hotbars
Once I have to move on BLM I just don't feel like playing it anymore lol
unless you're counting vestigal shit + role actions (which i specified wasnt a factor)
i am
like if you're counting Fire 2 or Blizzard 2
i was
which shouldnt be on your main bar anymore
i keep it for low level runs
incase i get dropped on it
i keep all my buttons incase.
I have them on a side bar that i can drag to my main bar and swap them with their equivalents
Seems like they are doing a focus on Healer this expansions kind of like what they did with Tanks for Shadowbringers
but i dont keep them keyboard because its pointless
there is never a time i will cast B1, B2, F2 except if downsynced
Which, on that note, at minimum B2 should turn into Freeze
the existence of both as buttons is dumb
totally
BLM is Yoshida's baby, so I'm sure he has surprises for us
blm now has full movement. please look foward to it
I'm more curious what changes will we get on the melee role
Is there even a spell they could add to BLM that is stronger than XenoGlossy
that is something i'm not ready to think about.
And will this new melee has Positionals or some other thing they have to maintain in their rotation
well it will follow SAM suit
On that low level spell note, I wish they'd just downgrade spells for synced content automatically
Nothing like dropping into Sastasha and finding all your bars gray
just like my parses!
Honestly they should delete dungeons before "The Manor"
Dungeons before that are boring
personally i like getting tam tara in roulette with 3 other people over level 30
Just find all dungeons interesting Manor+
or yknow
But those low level ones lol
i cant wait to wall to wall in tamtara and die because of the new healers
I mean I think they should give new players more credit lol they aren't baby noobs xD
at least tamtara isnt 🤢 toto rak 🤢

@floral aurora I dont think you understand how bad the "average" player is.
They need to delete Toto rak permanently from the game
Maybe lol
They should remove the open world dungeons like Toto, yes.
Anything from 1.x
or streamline it
I just know its much better now than the HW days where we had cleric stance lol
Cutters Cry is the other 1.x dungeon
!?
Isn't Cutter's Cry the one you can solo the last boss as a tank?
Yep! That one was easy to solo. Healer should 100% dps
But again I think you overestimate how little a lot of the playerbase knows about the gameplay
But playing with new peeps does make lower dungeons interesting
――今回の拡張パッケージでグラフィックスが向上したり、PC版の要求スペックが引き上げられたりするのでしょうか?
Will the expansion pack brush up the graphics and made the requirement for PC specs higher?
吉田
いいえ。プレイステーション5に向けて描画に手を入れて、もう少し高品質な画面で遊べるようにする、といったことはやっていますが、基本的にはそのままです。
ただ、今後グラフィックスエンジンの一新はやりたいとは思っています。
Yoshida: No. We are however implementing some rendering (note: likely refers to PS5 compatible rendering optimization or something) to allow the high quality graphics in the system and have players enjoy them, or rather, we are making this happen, but basically it will retain for now.
However, We do want to renew the graphics engine for this game in the future
really? they are planning to replace the engine?
Ooooooo 7.0 hype
are we getting hyped for 7.0 already?
Yeah, totally an overhaul, 7.0 will be the time to do it.
If it means a better engine, yep!
hell yeah Chemist and Viking
New Arc/New Engine, best time to do it
is this from the same interview you posted yesterday
Change the name to FF 17?
これまでの10年間で作ってきたアセットの数がものすごく多いうえに、データのフォルダ構成もすべて再構築しなおさなければなりません。
All the assets we have created throughout 10 years are in such enormous amount, and on top of that, we will have to restructure the entire data folder.
I've been shouting about a New Genesis treatment ever since Graha's narration about the end of the Star's tale.
Pog
hopefully the fix the clipping on helms with the new engine
加えて、4K(対応モニター)向けのテクスチャーへの対応も求められます。
Further more, there is a great demand to deal with 4k resolution textures as well.
そもそも、作りかたを変えなければならないと思います。
To begin with, I think it's time that we change our methods of production.
oh shit
ただし、下準備といいますか、調査は行っています。
However, you could say we are making preliminary arrangements now, and we are making research onto it right now.
No. That was Game Watch.
The above statement is taken from Famitsu.
oh pog
Preliminary arrangements would be the 4k UI stuff they talked about
That they're doing for PS5
doesn't pc already have 4k ui?
It has the same UI as PS4
no but I swear there's an option for 4k ui, or is that just resizing?
Oh thats resizing
right
Not like actual 4k Resolution UI assets
1600x900 moment
so actual 4K UI is gonna be the start
Hopefully
Also
Remembering back
Did anyone notice the camera pan
When they loaded into a new zone on PS5?
Apparently
I swear there was like a cute little zoom in or movement that I don't believe currently happens
One of the examples of changing game engine
includes how the mantle waves, its physics
I hope their showcase for new physics is literally just an Odin cape.
"Guys we finally did it"

a bit late but good talk.
Grass and trees changes xD
imma vanish. remember to drink water and play other games!
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7.0では確実にPS4切ってくるだろうから、そのタイミングでDX12に移行かな
other games?
If this user is correct
FF16 development will probably inform alot of their design for XIV in future, I would like to hope it was a learning experience.
Be sure to enjoy 6.0 on PS4. It could be your last.
That makes sense though
Very doubtful they ever cut PS4 out
is that basically saying 7.0 may be when PS4 gets discontinued?
They have to at some point
something about timing with DX12?
The possibility MAY be there
The PS3 really fucked everything up
The reason the PS3 got cut is because it couldn't handle the graphics at all. But the PS4 can.
The PS4 already cannot
It will however depends on how much players are playing on PS5
PS3 was the worst Playstation
If majority of the userbase all moved from PS4 to play FFXIV on PS5
i'll bet 8.0.
The possibility of FFXIV completely cut off PS4 support like how they do it with PS3 will be really high
PS4 is much more popular than PS3 at it's sunset.
It already has awful load times and framerate drops, if they do a overhaul, the PS4 wont deal with it gracefully.
The majority won't move to PS5 because the majority don't even have a PS5 yet lol
What jobs will they add in 10.0?
more like 2 and half
Also the fact we may get FF17 in 2-4 years as well.
(as a new MMO)
i dont think they will delay expansion again except a new badpandemic
What does that have to do- I'm not responding to these comments now.
You know what, that trailer has me curious
Because When you see the planet from the amaurot dungeon, you can see the trails of (meteors?) Entering the planet and causing the flames and such
But in the trailer, when the warrior of light looks back at the Star—The space is clear
GIve hrothgar hats
What other races are possible for the future ?
None
none
oh
I hope they don't add another
Races take up too much dev time, they won't do more.
When they do the new engine?
Yeah I'd rather them not waste time on race development
They aren't getting a new engine as far as I am aware. And a 'new engine' isn't the correct term to use anyways.
Are they reconstructing the inventory coding?
They have to retroactively redesign every single piece of clothing for new racing
Because Viera and Hrothgar not being able to wear hats will likely NOT be addressed until it happens.
If they are remaking any of it, I would prefer it be the lighting engine lol
Because there is no point in having to deal with the standing problem when they are already making preparations underway
If they are remaking the physics engine, it will also mean whatever limitations they are having right now will be solved along
I'd be surprised if they are, but I don't expect them to
Wait for the story to finish before any major changes start happening
Is the take away here
After that they can do anything
6.0 is the en of the story, Titan.
You also have to consider this
Of the arc
After that will be a different story
You can do timeskips, you can do anything to justify why the world suddenly seems visually very different.
tfw you realize that you have the endwalker trailer open in multiple tabs at once
Basically this means the dev team is going to "die"
Nah, I don't think they'll ever do a timeskip
to make it clear a new game engine is HORRIFIC for dev because you have to do ALL again
for a 10 years game
Yeah, a new engine would be hell
Well a new engine would mean a new game. You can't just.. Add a new engine to an already existing game without having to re-download it all again.
Another important note
I think Timeskip is a possibility but it would have to coincide with certain story events. the end of 6.0 (depending on how it ends) is a prime candidate but they already said they're not doing it there.
"Yoshida WANTS to do it". It may not come into fruition as well
something similar to pso2 ngs?
TL;DR - Just be cautiously optimistic
I don't think they'll do that
yes he want i, and he talk about it more and more, so it's possible in the future, but the process will be slow and prob already starting for some time
In my eyes, the possibility of a timeskip comes entirely down to what we learn in 6.0
Specifically
What was the cause of the final days
If it was (Fandaniel being a prick and nothing more) then i dont see a timeskip as a feasible option given what SE has already stated - that EW will not contain a timeskip
If it was (Eldritch/Malevolent entity inside the planet) then that can be made to work later
zodiark
I still can't see it
They'd have to cover their asses still for the time that they skipped over in lore
I think it would just be easier to just go through it
As bad as that whole sequence looked, i can forgive them because its obvious what they had to do there. The exarch model is "wearing" the crystal effect as an additional layer. The alternative would have been to have to do an entirely new model for him for every progression of the crystal corruption.
The alternative would have been to have to do an entirely new model for him for every progression of the crystal corruption.
Which I think is an acceptable standard.
When Alphinaud changes class next expansion
That's alot of modelling work. Like, an absurd amount. There were alot of stages to what happened there.
to me as dumb as the effect looked it didnt take away from the impact of the scenes
so i dont care
Just learn to be a gun you stupid rabbit thing
i hope old areas actually get bright colors
also more choices of colors at some point
What if the Nuoliths are all individual carbuncles that Alphinaud enslaved?
about to give carbuncle to his family
yeah I couldn’t see the bad modeling through my tears 
I noticed it as well but like
They gave you a BADASS fight also
So I couldn't complain at all lol
5.3 is honestly peak story for FF14 for me. Its gonna be hard for 6.0 to outdo it.
im sure some have said that before
and then when 5.0 came out it ended up being better than HW
Turns out, i was right
That's why EW is going to be epic
I wouldnt mind endwalker being a lil below shb.
By 6.0 it will be a foregone conclusion
So do not look at what the ending will be, but how they bring the story to that end.
That's perfectly dope as well
it'll be neat seeing what the 6.3 trial will be
That's how elidibus worked
There's no reason to have any anticipation of that.
yea
Like we knew we were going to stop him
6.3 is not going to function like 5.3 or 4.3 or 3.3
but how they go about it after the story ends in 6.0
Its not a wrapup like in previous expansions
There's plenty of reason ti be excited for 6.3
6.1 will probably be an aftermath of 6.0 with teaser in its end 
We will finally destroy zenos prolly
The biggest thing to happen in 6.3 will probably be in the 8 man
for the next arc
I anticipate the MSQ slowing down significantly in 6.1 / 6.2 at minimum in order to build up the next "big threat"
Even if it's the start of a new arc 6.3 can still tie up loose ends
they might also do some beast tribe stuff
I'm sure it'll be hinted at towards the middle of EW
with 6.3
so the 6.x series will be a full story rather than start a new one around 6.3
interesting and expected
maybe they'll take a msq "break" in 6.1 and 6.2 to focus on side content like the island
next big threat Anima Prime
Well, i expect 6.1 is still going to heavily be "6.0 aftermath"
Garlemald appears to be destined to be the equivalent of having been hit with a nuke.
aftermath will most likely be post 6.x where we might get a new calamity along with major game changes
6.3 Garlemald Restoration
Like bozja?
We'll "win" at the end of 6.0 - but at what cost, and what will be left
no tissues
I expect the new calamity to feature level squish and removal of classes so only jobs remain from level one
No
removal of pet jobs e z
That won't happen, I'm sure
i expect the final cap to be 99 tbh
7.0 = A Realm RE:Reborn 
Yoshi did say that "one day" he will somehow tweak classes since they are an outdated relic from 1.0
New final genesis fantasy 14
tbh i wish xiv got the NGS treatment but its a lot of work for SE
That's deleting something that's a part of job's identity
Classes are weird but you dont really gain that much by removing them
I dont see the point
because the dev time required would be very high
It's more of a loss than a gain
Fandaniel: kicks “G” off Graveyard sign
Fandaniel: Let’s get this party started
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In all seriousness though, i wanna now how that fucker is building all these structures
Because that giant ass tower in Garlemald sure as shit wasnt built by people
Has a major something to do with THAT lol
inb4 Fandanny caused the final days back at amaurot days 
No
Honestly it is weird that fandy knows how to recreate the final days
There's a few red flags about him regarding his past.
Yeah but that feels weak
inb4 the Moon is hydaelyn and zodiark the planet
I'm pretty sure they had some semblance of an idea
Ive said this a few times, but basically
The reason why they resorted to zodiark was because they didn't have time for any other option, I believe
I find hard to believe that the Final Days happened "on their own" just due to creation magic.
cause like if Zodiark was shattered, why is hydaelyn the one whose split 
because of how heavily regulated Amaurotine society had made Creation
tbh even they werent sure what caused it
I don't believe that either
Fandaniel definitely knows tho
They described it as a sickening of the planet itself
who knows
They didnt even attempt to look what caused it
Planet parasite (Lavos, Jenova) is an option of course
They were trying to find out
Fandaniel or other bad actors are another option
But they were also weighing options on how to protect themselves and also the planet
"it just happened" seems the least likely option
Yeah something caused the sickness
Yeah, I do think something was tampered with to some extent
ok whose the telophoroi 
We know literally nothing about that other than the name
and that its pretty lame to call your gang the Telephone Gang
Fandaniel and his funky monsters and probably more
whenever i see the world funky i think of soken and moukala smh
word*
Its too complicated of a made up name so i'll never remember it
All this information will be dropped in 6.0 and we’ll all be like “duuude”
i will be like 'called it!'
Turns out lalafells were behind it all
I don't think fandaniel had something to do with the final days directly
And if he did, then his intent must have been different back then
My assumption is that Fandaniel is serving some larger evil.
It's still bizarre for him to want death even now
Yeah
He still refers to zodiark as lord but
Zodiark was made with salvation in mind
Unless it's some twisted form of salvation he wants
Nah its not gonna be Zodiark, he is practically mocking every time he uses "Lord" in that context
Which...seems plausible
I mean yeah but he proudly still uses his title
And also did the mask thing™
I knew it!
I kinda get the vibe in the trailer that when Fandaniel is staring into the fire that it was some sort of "communication"
Maybe he is controlled in some way by the thing that started the final days.
You know what, if we look into that map
The map in the trailer depicts the tower as someone glowing
*something
I feel as if that tower's a giant beacon
Not unlike the crystal tower
Can't trust them
Giant beacon for the Tower of Babil from FF4
And we meet Rubicante, Cagnazzo, Barbariccia and Scarmiglione which then turn into the Elemental Archfiend trials (I really hope something like this were to happen but I doubt it)
Hmm maybe the sound was some kind of tempering.
Cag as the dungeon boss(es) before the last 3 are trials
Ah doubtful
Tempering makes you bend to the will to the one you're tempered to
The sound made you FEAR it, if anything
In other random thoughts
I like the new PLD AF gear from the trailer
but all i can think of is how shit its going to be when it goes dyable
I hope only the cape and waist part is dyable
because SE cant figure out how to do that without it being shit
the sword looked sick af with the blue glow 
Good gosh, why they make us do 36 rqids T.T
Yes that would be the logic thing to do.
If the dyes only effected the "cloth" sections it would be perfect
All I've ever wanted in XIV is just "Knight gear"
but you know how it'll actually work
And we finally get some
dye will effect the metal and cloth both, and the cloth will all convert to some god-awful blend of your selected color mixed with white
Some of the Ishgardian stuff is okay but too over the top
I wanna see if the new DNC AF is more thav than ever
Like, the amount of gear in this game that i cannot dye because of that fucking thing is infuriating
Oh, you want to dye this red? Sorry, half of its going to turn red, and half of its going to turn pink
what even is that light?
the sun
Probably literally the sun
My only concern with 6.x is "Oh no every dungeon set is going to be fucking Thavnir and like eastern european themed" 
That looks awesome
Very few sets in the game look good dyed
Look at that shot right there
looks to white and too close for that imo
it is the sun
Its fantasy sun
you realize that 2/3 dungeons they've shown aren't of Thavnair, or at least not of Thavnair design...
The sun too off for that shot
I mean, if its not the sun, its a fucking nuke
what do you mean by off?
because its sure as shit not the planet
and you've only got two celestial bodies to pick from
Thavnir is a Samurai's worst nightmare, because it's just "HEY MORE MONK GEAR"
"Get fucked Sam"
The elephants don't give a shit about samurais
"eastern european"
what
i think only the level 61 dungeon is thavnir related
Though I hope that Garlean train station gives us some cool as fuck Garlean stuff
Maybe it IS a nuke
81*
where are you getting eastern europe from lmao
Could be the planet in a different lense

No it's not

why would the wol be walking into the sun?
that the planet doesn't generate enough light to overpower the sun
Because it's cool.
The WoL is walking away from the sun
To tan
he's walking towards the camera in that shot
..... because the wol represent the sun among the ancient ?
I think wol has been hit on the head too many times
It's clearly Sun for artistic effect
because the WoL is cosmic 
the earth cannot reflect that much light
Maybe it's artistic expression
"maybe"
maybe the sun is an artistic expression
what if the Sun in FFXIV is going to be the new arcs villain
The sun is not in view in the last shot

god I hope so
"I am your sun, WoL"
kill us all
...
"My what?"
You can see where the sun should be
we go from dethrone god to dethrone sun
There's only one light source in that shot of Derplander walking
and it's the sun.
Look at the rays
There's one source of light in that image you just posted
it's the sun.
it's the fucking sun.
idk what else it could be cmon
It's the fucking sun, stop being a pedantic crazy person.
It's all for effect anyway
That lightsource behind derplander is the only source of light in that image
It could just as easily be something else
The only alternative to that being the sun is that the Source is in the process of exploding or someone fired a literal nuke at the moon
You know what
WHAT IF thats the portal we used to get on the moon 
and it just looks like sun Kapp
arent we using a ship sath
i dont know im not ishikawa
Thats what it likely is
idk, it could be some magic stuff
We're using a giant tomestone given to us by Rowena.
maybe the space ship from the logo is on the moon!
Flying to the moon on it
It could be
Like
and thats how we go bacc!
TRUE
I will make it easy to understand: it's the sun, the wol is dressed as an ancient and his seat among them represent the sun, it's just fucking symbolic.
AZEM 
If you look at the wol's being on the moon, the sun is in two different places
At both shots
No it isn't
Yes it is
Anyone know when we can buy the Ticket to get the Lunar Whale? Don't wanna miss it
may 15th

Also, if you want to go meme route, Azem's silhouette looks like a Grim Reaper, which Yoshi has on all his shirts 
you can preorder it iirc
That's.... weird. Thought they sell the Tickets before
they did say the whale would be on the store
no

No
@warm bone
What is wrong with you
@warm bone #retired-patch-6-3-discussion message
summonig smuggers
If the whale will be in the store even better
it will cost like 50 bucks 
The Luna Whale is symbolic, if you buy it, you are the Moon Whale.
i dont think people care what it costs considering how many chocobo carriages i saw when that first dropped
I spent for way worse in the past so whatever
Just rewatched the trailer
Sath, I dont think thats how lasers work
I don't think any of us will be able to resist buying that sweet, sweet, 8-person mount... no matter what the cost.
The sun like disappears in the transition to the title
It must be something else
@late willow a dude advertises their discord server, stop being a jedi!
meara already dealt with it
So I guess if they're just moving the sun around for convenience sake, then what I'm saying doesn't matter

But if the sun ISN'T being moved, then that light is something else
Or
ure playing a game where u can breath on space and u wonder about the light effects?
it's literally just the sun
OR
for show

The light is our rage.
Consider: planetary bodies in space move
give me oxygen
sath has oxygen
I didn't even bring it up as a topic lol
Small indie company please understand, no oxygen for you
what if i didnt want to breath anymore
The beginning of the trailer, tbh
I'm giving my two cents to the person who actually asked
it feels implied that Derplander has been wandering the moon for a really long time

I'll gladly take your two cents
he's walking in circles on the moon
His armor is all kinds of fucked up and worn and covered in dust
OR the derplander got his ass kicked by Zenos so we go on the moon
Zenos kicked not-Ardbert into the moon
stormblood 2.0 
All good
It turns out he's still wandering the area from the start of SHB trailer, he just went insane from solitude and thinks he's now on the moon.
Kinda wondering if there's going to be some sort of story-turn there where Fandaniel dumps us there as a last resort
If he's walking in circles, that plausible too
i wonder which scion will die 
Moons haunted
Tataru
Graha
If you're trying to say that it's due to NATURAL movement, that's why the sun is in different places then.. that's just weird
nah shes an office girl
yeah probably graha
hes a Tia anyway, hes already hopeless
It's going to be Graha, we were baited, he's too OP
All that work to journey with us and he gets snuffed out
Graha getting to live and then dying 
i loved how they announced garlemald tho
Yshtola
we are going to garlemald-its a little ruined tho hehe
I'll take anybody's sacrifice as long as G'raha gets to live
Like, look how fucked up Derplanders boot is at the start vs. how shiny clean it is at the end. That feels like "i've been walking aimlessly for weeks" fucked up.
"Oh it's fine, it's just a bit worn out from humidity, but a fresh coat of paint and itll be like new"
"Welcome to 6.3 with Garlemald Restoration"
OR battle worn
At this point i've asssumed our main party is safe but who knows
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/IllegalCleverKid-small.gif
Yoshi giving us Garlemald
i wish, but people got annoyed ShB had no casualties from the scions xd
It doesnt really strike me as worn from battle
I mean most of our gear is found in chests, so its probably secondhand boots
that's pure gameplay
Yeah but its the same set as from the end of the video where its shiny clean
what scion died in Stormblood?
i liked how they tried to make you think thancred would die but he was the only tank for trust
Lore is very clear that Derplander frequently shops at Rowena's
lyse
There are scratch marks all over it
Yes because the only way to write a good story is to make someone you care about die
I guess technically Yda
Yda was dead before even 1.0
That's heavenward though
She was dead all along
tbh the fact she lost so much personality butchered her
And technically, yeah that
Well "Yda"
Yda is Lyse right?
ishikawa please fix
No
If my mem serves me
Lyse is Lyse
Nah
Allegedly a Scion died at the end of Heavensward, but i dont remember anyone important dying.
Minfilia died off in SHB much to my relief.
Yeah "Yda" died in heavensward
Yda was Lyse's sister
Lyse disguises herself as Yda because sister issues and insecurity
She stops doing it at the end of HW
Papalimo died post-ARR if i remember right? 
3.5
No
no
Post hw
end of HW
o
SB literally starts with Papa death and Yda reveal
The last dungeon of HW
ok i got confused xd
3.3 was HW, 3.4 onwards is SB
A potato died and nothing of value was lost.
but ye i dont wanna see scions die 
meanwhile a sicko on OF wants to see the twins killed
Yeah but is papalymo actually dead?
yes
A sicko on what?
official forums
Oh

I assumed OF to mean something else lmao
Didn't like the twins
For a long time I thought we were gonna learn the Twins arent real because they were never shown in ANY CG at any point despite being with us almost at all times.
i only read them cause the people on it are worse than reddit
Shb made me like alisaie
Alisaie went from meh to a great character 
twins look pretty dope in 6.0 ngl
i want Alisaies jacket
Alisaie was great from the second I met her in HW imo
oh wait i can wear it i use mods.
What's alisaie's coat right now in the story?
Alisaie has been good since th Coils of Bahamut, the best story in ARR
Ehhh
I'm pretty sure it's the same
Not sure about that one
Alisaie was written okay in Coils but uh
that fucking VA
lmao
Alisaie's english VA in ARR was legendarily bad
I only switched to dub for SHB rewatching some cutscenes
Like you have no idea
Wait a second
on my main i play the story in the superior dub[JP] and on my alt in english

I need to get into critical role

I don't really like dub Alisaie, the VA is good but I dont think it fits her, needs to be pitched up a bit
@kind lark CR is great, been binging it for months
agreed, thats why JP is more fitting. she sounds always mad in ENG for some reason 
It sounds like they just grabbed a random female from the halls in the office
I like Alisaie much more than Alphie
English Alisaie sounding mad is like.....part of her character though in my eyes
Yea I don't like how jp alisaie sounds at all, would prefer EN a million times over
She aint got time for your shit
The best line in SHB is totally Elidibus going "THIS I.... promised to... someone"
she has time for my shit im the WoL
It suits Alisae since she's basically a Chihuahua
That shit is great
@rough kestrel I've only watched a few eps but Matt is a living legend
Yeah he's great
I wonder who's going to have the second new job in the second trailer The Warrior of light I'm guessing
Best line for shb is the line emet states
Also Liam O'brien and Laura Bailey, doing the 2 best characters in Nier Gestalt.
Laura is such a good VA 
@royal spruce What?
Something something something found you wanting
You're referring to immediately after he shoots the Exarch
@virtus ?
People speculate it'll be Zenos
No I was wondering if it was going to be like the stormblood trailer
maybe he switches mid expansion 
Stormblood trailer is terrible
Wouldn't be the first time Derp is 2 jobs at once
Your taste is bad
you know how in the stormblood trailer the first one he was job is monk but in the second trailer he switch to Samurai
No but it'd be weird if he got PLD it as a return to Light just to dump it immediately
Derp was a DRG in HW
It's legitimately bad compared to the others
Yeah war and drg
That's... okay whatever
"It's not as good so it's bad" is an unhealthy mindset
After your sun shit I'm not going to bother
But it could be just a background character like it was in the shadowbringers trailer that has the second job
That's literally inept in terms of summarizing what I said
I said it's bad
Compared to the others
I wonder if the second trailer is going to have the clouds covering the map open up completely
That I do wonder
Stormblood trailer is terrible
It's legitimately bad compared to the others
It's not as good so it's bad
so I wonder how much from Granblue they'll take for our potential Reaper job
https://i.imgur.com/7CvXEvl.gif
SB trailer is fine, I just dont give a shit about it compared to HW, ARR, SHB and EW
I just hope we don’t have to build a lunar lander, gather fuel, and other resource. Then do some mini game to land on the moon.
The bots has a command to bring up the world map right
SB trailer wasnt as hype tbh but it wasnt bad 
Moonlander mini game 
ok go back to jedi

