#retired-patch-6-3-discussion

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viscid glade
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are pre-orders likely to come up at fan fest

untold gull
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Anyone fought lyse in that one scene with a book?

shell isle
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other than sycthe/templar what other theories are there?

obsidian pagoda
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yes she's on that palm thing against monklander

glossy rose
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Exactly.

gaunt star
humble rain
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@shell isle Ghostbuster job

viscid glade
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sick

rough kestrel
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We're in Ala Mhigo, Derplander is a Monk, story wise we meet Zenos in Ala Mhigo and we get fucked by him, we go to Kugane and become Samurai like him.

obsidian pagoda
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but how did that become samurai Lyse? what?

viscid glade
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its like, almost guaranteed we'll get earrings like last time

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right

untold gull
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I hope for a ring

gaunt star
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same

viscid glade
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i need thos earrings/xp booster

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w/e it is

obsidian pagoda
gaunt star
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need me ring to pair with shb earings

balmy mesa
viscid glade
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wernet the sb ones earrings too

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ala mhigan earrings

glossy rose
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@balmy mesa Perfect. :3

humble rain
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They better have Lulu collecting all the belts

gaunt star
balmy mesa
glossy rose
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Also, my logic was that Virtus is saying that we're following the CG events, and the CG events is that a Monk gets defeated by Zenos and then the Monk goes and becomes a Samurai 'cause Zenos is effectively a Samurai.

glossy rose
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So, by that logic, if my sleep-riddled mind is right, Lyse would've been a Samurai.

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But she ain't.

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So I don't think we're copying Zenos.

rough kestrel
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We got a weapon glam in the form of Revolver

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What do we get this time

unique verge
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Lyse doesnt have the mental capacity for two jobs

obsidian pagoda
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I'm too sleepy for this convo lol

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aight I'm out

glossy rose
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Same, honestly.

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Lol.

rough kestrel
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I dont know what the fuck Bertha means

gaunt star
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what does lyse have to do with any class

rough kestrel
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I'm thinking Language barrier

humble rain
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Guys Zenos next job is Songstress

rough kestrel
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But who knows

glossy rose
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I was trying to 4D chess this, I think I lost myself too.

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Sorry.

rough kestrel
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FF11 gave Dark Knights, Scythes right? if the new DPS is probably maiming, it'll be a a heavy armored "Knight-like" DPS with a scythe, or a hammer.

gaunt star
wet crown
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maiming gear is already the tank set with a different color

glossy rose
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...Can you really maim a dude with a hammer?

wet crown
humble rain
robust atlas
rough kestrel
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So it'll be scythe then

obsidian pagoda
glossy rose
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@robust atlas Sometimes, you just gotta take the moon.

rough kestrel
glossy rose
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You know there's gonna be someone who talks about people on the moon.

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And someone who disbelieves it.

somber storm
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Hildibrand

unique verge
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I wanna know how the fuck that giant ass tower gets created in Garlemald

rough kestrel
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That clip will be Estinien in MSQ yelling at us

obsidian pagoda
rough kestrel
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"But the moon"

"WE'RE ON A MISSION SHUT UP"

gaunt star
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inb4 Zenos is Venant

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venat*

humble rain
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We build a Megazord and go to the moon

wet crown
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Venat is still inside Hydaelyn, buddy

gaunt star
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look 'buddy' im just memeing

rough kestrel
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Rowena gives us a giant tomestone made of all the tomestones she has been given by players

wet crown
rough kestrel
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And we ride it to the moon

obsidian pagoda
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Actually this pic of Robert vs Rhaegar is like... Hammer Knight vs Dragoon already lel

glossy rose
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Still though, we need hammers as a weapon type.

obsidian pagoda
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with similar lean-looking armour

humble rain
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Gaia

wet crown
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reskinned axes

gaunt star
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just add more hammer glams for trashwars

rough kestrel
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Holy shit Gaia becomes DPS Role quest NPC

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"I dont fucking know it just works okay"
[Quest complete]

gaunt star
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plus Gaia is using some of her ascian powers

humble rain
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Along with the mastery of the hammer you also get free lip injections

obsidian pagoda
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And some good makeup skills hopefully

humble rain
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Gaia we know those lips are fake

rough kestrel
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Gaia is a teenage Highlander

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Thats why she looks like she does

rough kestrel
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Like, she literally is.

gloomy shale
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wait did they slip a new primal crafted weapon into the recent patch?

wet crown
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hm? which one?

unique verge
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The other thing with Scythe, for me, is im having a really hard time envisioning a fighting style for it that looks plausible but doesnt just look like it copied DRG's homework

gloomy shale
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whatever primal Demon is from

vagrant sinew
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no

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that was 5.4 I think

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and it was zurvan

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yknow what I hope for

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more glowy weapons from primals

gloomy shale
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hmm I'm just now seeing it , was it the only one they added?

wet crown
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they went back and added glowy weapons for all past primals

vagrant sinew
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bc I legit hate how fucked gnb and dnc got

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their only glowy weapon from primals is shinryu

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even after suzaku and tsukuyomi weapons were added, gnb and dnc didn't get those

kindred meteor
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And the shinryu gunblade looks like ass

vagrant sinew
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they didn't even get glams from t13 and alexander

wet crown
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time and resources better spent elsewhere

rough kestrel
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I dont think a single primal weapon in th game actually looks good

unique verge
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Chaos Thrust, Wheeling Thrust, Coerthan Torment, Raiden Thrust, and to a lesser degree Fang and Claw all look like movesets that would go with a Scythe, since its functionally just a less useful spear

rough kestrel
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People circlejerk all day long about glowy primal weapons and I just don't get it.

wet crown
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That's you though

rough kestrel
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It is

unique verge
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I kind of hate the vast majority of glowing weapons

rough kestrel
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I like the Bokuto, Level 50 Katana and the Gordian Katana and thats it.

kindred meteor
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People like to see their weapons glow

rough kestrel
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430 Katana is cool too.

vagrant sinew
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I do indeed yes

wet crown
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Some people just need to be peacocks

unique verge
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Like, glowing weapons to me is just distracting more than anything. I dont like it.

vagrant sinew
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I like seeing my weapon glow and I cannot fucking wait until I get the current rdm relic done

runic spire
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Personal preference really, i generally don't like glowy weapons and wish i can disable it on my character but i'm not fighting for that.

kindred meteor
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Ramuh Katana fucks tbh

vagrant sinew
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ast anima also fits so well with my glam

runic spire
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i like to feel the design as solid matter really.

humble rain
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FFX is my favourite game of all time so seeing Anima made me so happy

gloomy shale
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same

rough kestrel
runic spire
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this expansion feels like a mix of 10 and 4

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and i'm all for it.

humble rain
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Now bring on Blitzball

runic spire
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BLITZBALL FUCK YEAH

gloomy shale
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hopefully they add the Auron outfit

rough kestrel
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We have one like it already

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It's called the 430 Samurai set

obsidian pagoda
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I've seen way more people get hyped about Blitzball than the opposite, I'm so happy MiqoteHappy

vagrant sinew
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I don't get the excitement for blitzball tbh

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I didn't enjoy it

balmy mesa
obsidian pagoda
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That's some big brain calculation

gaunt star
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I don’t remember bliztball as an even a remotely enjoyable mini game

runic spire
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i'm currently on my alt so i wish i could use my emotes

rough kestrel
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I don't like Blitzball, I think it's garbage, the reason why I don't complain about it is because Triple Triad already exists in XIV and thats all I care about for Minigames.

runic spire
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before this sets alarms, i'm just using this because my main is fucking 100 servers full.

shell isle
balmy mesa
runic spire
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I feel the opposite really.

rough kestrel
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My only issue with TT is the limits on 4 star cards which maybe they are fucking finally easing.,

balmy mesa
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didn't that get eased this patch?

runic spire
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I love FF9 but i wouldn't want Tetra Master to come back.

unique verge
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There's one other.....silly thought in my head regarding a way to explain the "scythe" thing with it it being a scythe. It could be a reference to the blade being curved rather than being a scythe itself. Which, given that we're about to head off to India Radz-at-Han, could be a reference to traditional weapons from that region.

runic spire
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gods no

rough kestrel
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The LL suggests they are easing it in 5.5

humble rain
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Blitzball could turn out to be great cause it's an 8v8 pvp mode with 3 classes to level up. Goalkeeper, Defender Attacker

rough kestrel
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But we dont know how much by

runic spire
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Blitzball feels perfect for FFXIV

obsidian pagoda
balmy mesa
vagrant sinew
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there's also curved blade glams for pld

unique verge
runic spire
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hell with how it could possibly be designed

gaunt star
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You and I got a different meaning of “consistently”

runic spire
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i can easily see it becoming pretty rewarding for folks to return to.

gaunt star
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Blitzball is unnecessary

runic spire
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that's if blitz is happening.

rough kestrel
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Yeah Blitzball in FFX felt broken as fuck, all the strats to beat it came down to cheesing the AI and making them bug.

balmy mesa
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well, one of my friends couldn't stand blitzball, but another went full fantasy league, so...

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it's kinda a mix of both

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the appeal is there

rough kestrel
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I think the idea is okay I just dont know how anyone enjoyed that iteration of it

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But I dont really like FFX as a whole

runic spire
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FFX's blitzball was flawed but i can see a modern take in XIV being real gnarly.

obsidian pagoda
humble rain
gaunt star
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I can’t wait for it to become the next Lord of Verminion

balmy mesa
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TT is pretty fun, but also had a ton of cheese strats

obsidian pagoda
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As long as you have Jecht Shot, FFX Blitzball is easy to cheese

rough kestrel
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I bet the minigame is Snowboarding and everyone gets fucked.

floral aurora
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Is the Mega Live Letter/Media tour going to be in August/September now?

runic spire
runic spire
humble rain
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Blitzball or I'm joining Zenos

obsidian pagoda
balmy mesa
runic spire
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this is going to be my first expansion i catch during launch.

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pretty interested to see the gap between 5.5 to 6.0

floral aurora
runic spire
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hoping they don't mess too much with GNB.

unique verge
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I hope they do

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GNB needs some button culling

obsidian pagoda
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Need more evolving buttons

unique verge
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As ive griped about before, there's no reason the Gnashing Fang combo should exist as three buttons.

runic spire
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I disagree with that.

floral aurora
runic spire
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It's simple but i enjoy pressing it and the things go pow blam ka-blowey

gloomy shale
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yeah bloodfest is my only gripe

runic spire
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gives me dopamine

unique verge
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I'm not saying to make it stop being 3 hits

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Im saying make it stop being 3 buttons

runic spire
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i don't see how that's a problem either.

pastel coyote
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same shit

unique verge
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Because GNB has too many buttons

gloomy shale
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What about PLD then?

runic spire
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I do think bloodfest needs that adjustment fr fr.

unique verge
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24 should be the 'sweet spot' of button quantity of non-role / non-general buttons

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PLD is slightly heavy on this as well, but not as bad as GNB

somber storm
floral aurora
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Yeah if they change Bloodfest, Gunbreaker would be perfect

gloomy shale
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agreed

severe finch
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Bloodfest not needing a target would be awful because then you'd have people doing 90s countdowns

floral aurora
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What I want added in 6.0 is another cartridge and more mitigation

runic spire
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i think 2 is fine.

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but we'll see

floral aurora
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But 3rd one will be a super shot xD

runic spire
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maybe it's personal but i always enjoyed pressing a lot of buttons when playing ffxiv

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makes me feel like i have control over the animations and actions.

unique verge
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I'm not saying it should have like 3

floral aurora
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Gunbreaker feels awesome to play compared to other tanks. Its basically a dps with tank tools

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I want that same feeling with Sage

unique verge
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im saying that when you start forcing a class into having 3 hotbars keybound to function, its detrimental to the experience. Gnashing Fang is just one option for a way to trim that down.

runic spire
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you would be right by condensing the combo into one button

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then what about BLM?

obsidian pagoda
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The best defense is offense

gloomy shale
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They have been on point with the newer job designs so I trust Sage will feel good

runic spire
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I main BLM

sturdy estuary
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if i wanted to press 1 button repeatedly i would play the other tanks

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dlm

runic spire
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lol

floral aurora
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I just want fire 1 removed from the level 90 rotation lol

unique verge
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BLM is perfect. You can fully bind it on two hotbars.

runic spire
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BLM has 3 hotbars of buttons.

sturdy estuary
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idk how theyd improve blm

runic spire
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yeah there's probably some useless buttons but generally speaking it's a lot to pack in

unique verge
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BLM does not have 3 hotbars

gloomy shale
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Once I have to move on BLM I just don't feel like playing it anymore lol

unique verge
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unless you're counting vestigal shit + role actions (which i specified wasnt a factor)

runic spire
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i am

unique verge
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like if you're counting Fire 2 or Blizzard 2

runic spire
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i was

unique verge
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which shouldnt be on your main bar anymore

runic spire
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i keep it for low level runs

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incase i get dropped on it

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i keep all my buttons incase.

unique verge
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I have them on a side bar that i can drag to my main bar and swap them with their equivalents

gloomy shale
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Seems like they are doing a focus on Healer this expansions kind of like what they did with Tanks for Shadowbringers

unique verge
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but i dont keep them keyboard because its pointless

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there is never a time i will cast B1, B2, F2 except if downsynced

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Which, on that note, at minimum B2 should turn into Freeze

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the existence of both as buttons is dumb

runic spire
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totally

floral aurora
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BLM is Yoshida's baby, so I'm sure he has surprises for us

runic spire
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but generally speaking i'm a simple man

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i see button, it do thing and i smile.

sturdy estuary
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blm now has full movement. please look foward to it

floral aurora
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I'm more curious what changes will we get on the melee role

gloomy shale
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Is there even a spell they could add to BLM that is stronger than XenoGlossy

runic spire
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that is something i'm not ready to think about.

floral aurora
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And will this new melee has Positionals or some other thing they have to maintain in their rotation

gloomy shale
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well it will follow SAM suit

obsidian pagoda
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On that low level spell note, I wish they'd just downgrade spells for synced content automatically

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Nothing like dropping into Sastasha and finding all your bars gray

vagrant sinew
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lvl 15 scorch

sturdy estuary
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just like my parses!

vagrant sinew
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what if I want my bars green

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or blue

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or purple

floral aurora
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Honestly they should delete dungeons before "The Manor"

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Dungeons before that are boring

sturdy estuary
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personally i like getting tam tara in roulette with 3 other people over level 30

floral aurora
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Just find all dungeons interesting Manor+

vagrant sinew
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or yknow

floral aurora
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But those low level ones lol

vagrant sinew
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get tamtara

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wall to wall

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ez

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cure 1 spam babey

sturdy estuary
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i cant wait to wall to wall in tamtara and die because of the new healers

vagrant sinew
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hell yeah

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oops! all wipes

floral aurora
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I mean I think they should give new players more credit lol they aren't baby noobs xD

sturdy estuary
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at least tamtara isnt 🤢 toto rak 🤢

vagrant sinew
rough kestrel
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@floral aurora I dont think you understand how bad the "average" player is.

obsidian pagoda
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They need to delete Toto rak permanently from the game

floral aurora
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Maybe lol

rough kestrel
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They should remove the open world dungeons like Toto, yes.

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Anything from 1.x

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or streamline it

floral aurora
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I just know its much better now than the HW days where we had cleric stance lol

rough kestrel
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Cutters Cry is the other 1.x dungeon

hasty totem
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!?

floral aurora
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Isn't Cutter's Cry the one you can solo the last boss as a tank?

rough kestrel
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Its the one with mechanics that fuck people up

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And are Blus best friends

floral aurora
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Yep! That one was easy to solo. Healer should 100% dps

rough kestrel
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But again I think you overestimate how little a lot of the playerbase knows about the gameplay

floral aurora
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But playing with new peeps does make lower dungeons interesting

hasty totem
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――今回の拡張パッケージでグラフィックスが向上したり、PC版の要求スペックが引き上げられたりするのでしょうか?

Will the expansion pack brush up the graphics and made the requirement for PC specs higher?

吉田
いいえ。プレイステーション5に向けて描画に手を入れて、もう少し高品質な画面で遊べるようにする、といったことはやっていますが、基本的にはそのままです。
ただ、今後グラフィックスエンジンの一新はやりたいとは思っています。

Yoshida: No. We are however implementing some rendering (note: likely refers to PS5 compatible rendering optimization or something) to allow the high quality graphics in the system and have players enjoy them, or rather, we are making this happen, but basically it will retain for now.

However, We do want to renew the graphics engine for this game in the future

gloomy shale
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really? they are planning to replace the engine?

floral aurora
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Ooooooo 7.0 hype

sturdy estuary
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are we getting hyped for 7.0 already?

rough kestrel
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Yeah, totally an overhaul, 7.0 will be the time to do it.

floral aurora
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If it means a better engine, yep!

gloomy shale
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hell yeah Chemist and Viking

rough kestrel
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I dont think it'll be a new engine

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Just an update to the current one

floral aurora
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New Arc/New Engine, best time to do it

gloomy shale
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Change the name to FF 17?

hasty totem
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これまでの10年間で作ってきたアセットの数がものすごく多いうえに、データのフォルダ構成もすべて再構築しなおさなければなりません。

All the assets we have created throughout 10 years are in such enormous amount, and on top of that, we will have to restructure the entire data folder.

rough kestrel
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I've been shouting about a New Genesis treatment ever since Graha's narration about the end of the Star's tale.

gloomy shale
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hopefully the fix the clipping on helms with the new engine

hasty totem
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加えて、4K(対応モニター)向けのテクスチャーへの対応も求められます。
Further more, there is a great demand to deal with 4k resolution textures as well.

そもそも、作りかたを変えなければならないと思います。
To begin with, I think it's time that we change our methods of production.

floral aurora
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Man better glamours/housing system

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The true endgame

hasty totem
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ただし、下準備といいますか、調査は行っています。
However, you could say we are making preliminary arrangements now, and we are making research onto it right now.

hasty totem
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The above statement is taken from Famitsu.

vagrant sinew
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oh pog

rough kestrel
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Preliminary arrangements would be the 4k UI stuff they talked about

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That they're doing for PS5

vagrant sinew
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doesn't pc already have 4k ui?

rough kestrel
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It has the same UI as PS4

vagrant sinew
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no but I swear there's an option for 4k ui, or is that just resizing?

rough kestrel
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Oh thats resizing

vagrant sinew
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right

rough kestrel
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Not like actual 4k Resolution UI assets

vagrant sinew
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1600x900 moment

rough kestrel
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Which is what they were referring to

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Icons and decorations

vagrant sinew
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so actual 4K UI is gonna be the start

rough kestrel
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Hopefully

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Also

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Remembering back

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Did anyone notice the camera pan

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When they loaded into a new zone on PS5?

hasty totem
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Apparently

rough kestrel
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I swear there was like a cute little zoom in or movement that I don't believe currently happens

hasty totem
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One of the examples of changing game engine

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includes how the mantle waves, its physics

rough kestrel
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Physics engine, yeah

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Nice

hasty totem
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and its performance.

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Now they are looking into remaking the physics engine.

rough kestrel
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I hope their showcase for new physics is literally just an Odin cape.

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"Guys we finally did it"

runic spire
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a bit late but good talk.

floral aurora
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Grass and trees changes xD

runic spire
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imma vanish. remember to drink water and play other games!

hasty totem
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135: 既にその名前は使われています 2021/02/07(日) 151547.54 ID:PpROgv/j

128
7.0では確実にPS4切ってくるだろうから、そのタイミングでDX12に移行かな

vagrant sinew
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other games?

hasty totem
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If this user is correct

forest magnet
rough kestrel
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FF16 development will probably inform alot of their design for XIV in future, I would like to hope it was a learning experience.

hasty totem
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Be sure to enjoy 6.0 on PS4. It could be your last.

rough kestrel
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That makes sense though

woeful dagger
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Very doubtful they ever cut PS4 out

vagrant sinew
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is that basically saying 7.0 may be when PS4 gets discontinued?

rough kestrel
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They have to at some point

vagrant sinew
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something about timing with DX12?

hasty totem
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The possibility MAY be there

rough kestrel
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The PS3 really fucked everything up

woeful dagger
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The reason the PS3 got cut is because it couldn't handle the graphics at all. But the PS4 can.

rough kestrel
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The PS4 already cannot

hasty totem
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It will however depends on how much players are playing on PS5

gloomy shale
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PS3 was the worst Playstation

hasty totem
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If majority of the userbase all moved from PS4 to play FFXIV on PS5

runic spire
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i'll bet 8.0.

hasty totem
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The possibility of FFXIV completely cut off PS4 support like how they do it with PS3 will be really high

runic spire
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PS4 is much more popular than PS3 at it's sunset.

rough kestrel
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It already has awful load times and framerate drops, if they do a overhaul, the PS4 wont deal with it gracefully.

woeful dagger
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The majority won't move to PS5 because the majority don't even have a PS5 yet lol

gloomy shale
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What jobs will they add in 10.0?

rough kestrel
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7.0 is like 2 years away, remember that.

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Minimum

runic spire
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PS5 owner here, excited to see the open beta

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even if i'm a PC player

steep cobalt
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more like 2 and half

rough kestrel
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Hence minimum

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But yeah

woeful dagger
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(as a new MMO)

steep cobalt
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i dont think they will delay expansion again except a new badpandemic

rough kestrel
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What does that have to do- I'm not responding to these comments now.

soft maple
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You know what, that trailer has me curious

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Because When you see the planet from the amaurot dungeon, you can see the trails of (meteors?) Entering the planet and causing the flames and such

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But in the trailer, when the warrior of light looks back at the Star—The space is clear

kind lark
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GIve hrothgar hats

gloomy shale
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What other races are possible for the future ?

woeful dagger
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None

steep cobalt
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none

gloomy shale
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oh

soft maple
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I hope they don't add another

woeful dagger
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Races take up too much dev time, they won't do more.

soft maple
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Until like

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Years from now

gloomy shale
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When they do the new engine?

steep cobalt
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even with ne engine

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it cost so much

soft maple
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They're getting a new engine?

#

Wouldn't that be expensive

gloomy shale
#

Yeah I'd rather them not waste time on race development

woeful dagger
#

They aren't getting a new engine as far as I am aware. And a 'new engine' isn't the correct term to use anyways.

hasty totem
#

If they are remaking the physics engine

#

You will have to bear 6.0 for now.

gloomy shale
#

Are they reconstructing the inventory coding?

soft maple
#

They have to retroactively redesign every single piece of clothing for new racing

hasty totem
#

Because Viera and Hrothgar not being able to wear hats will likely NOT be addressed until it happens.

woeful dagger
#

If they are remaking any of it, I would prefer it be the lighting engine lol

hasty totem
#

Because there is no point in having to deal with the standing problem when they are already making preparations underway

#

If they are remaking the physics engine, it will also mean whatever limitations they are having right now will be solved along

soft maple
#

I'd be surprised if they are, but I don't expect them to

rough kestrel
#

Wait for the story to finish before any major changes start happening

#

Is the take away here

#

After that they can do anything

soft maple
#

Well they're still doing story

#

After the expansion

#

Just a new arc

rough kestrel
#

6.0 is the en of the story, Titan.

hasty totem
#

You also have to consider this

soft maple
#

Of the arc

rough kestrel
#

After that will be a different story

hasty totem
#

There are over 1000 graphic assets

#

That they have to refresh for that purpose

rough kestrel
#

You can do timeskips, you can do anything to justify why the world suddenly seems visually very different.

unique verge
#

tfw you realize that you have the endwalker trailer open in multiple tabs at once

hasty totem
#

Basically this means the dev team is going to "die"

soft maple
#

Nah, I don't think they'll ever do a timeskip

steep cobalt
#

to make it clear a new game engine is HORRIFIC for dev because you have to do ALL again

#

for a 10 years game

soft maple
#

Yeah, a new engine would be hell

woeful dagger
#

Well a new engine would mean a new game. You can't just.. Add a new engine to an already existing game without having to re-download it all again.

hasty totem
#

Another important note

unique verge
#

I think Timeskip is a possibility but it would have to coincide with certain story events. the end of 6.0 (depending on how it ends) is a prime candidate but they already said they're not doing it there.

hasty totem
#

"Yoshida WANTS to do it". It may not come into fruition as well

tropic frigate
#

something similar to pso2 ngs?

hasty totem
#

TL;DR - Just be cautiously optimistic

rough kestrel
#

I've been saying for awhile, 7.0 New Genesis

#

That'll be the time

soft maple
#

I don't think they'll do that

steep cobalt
#

yes he want i, and he talk about it more and more, so it's possible in the future, but the process will be slow and prob already starting for some time

unique verge
#

In my eyes, the possibility of a timeskip comes entirely down to what we learn in 6.0

#

Specifically

#

What was the cause of the final days

#

If it was (Fandaniel being a prick and nothing more) then i dont see a timeskip as a feasible option given what SE has already stated - that EW will not contain a timeskip

unique verge
#

If it was (Eldritch/Malevolent entity inside the planet) then that can be made to work later

thin crypt
soft maple
#

I still can't see it

#

They'd have to cover their asses still for the time that they skipped over in lore

#

I think it would just be easier to just go through it

unique verge
woeful dagger
#

The alternative would have been to have to do an entirely new model for him for every progression of the crystal corruption.

Which I think is an acceptable standard.

thin crypt
unique verge
#

That's alot of modelling work. Like, an absurd amount. There were alot of stages to what happened there.

#

to me as dumb as the effect looked it didnt take away from the impact of the scenes

#

so i dont care

agile needle
#

Just learn to be a gun you stupid rabbit thing

tropic frigate
#

i hope old areas actually get bright colors

#

also more choices of colors at some point

woeful dagger
#

What if the Nuoliths are all individual carbuncles that Alphinaud enslaved?

tropic frigate
#

about to give carbuncle to his family

livid vault
soft maple
#

I noticed it as well but like

#

They gave you a BADASS fight also

#

So I couldn't complain at all lol

unique verge
#

5.3 is honestly peak story for FF14 for me. Its gonna be hard for 6.0 to outdo it.

tropic frigate
#

im sure some have said that before

unique verge
#

I mean

#

I said something similar in 3.3 about 4.0

tropic frigate
#

and then when 5.0 came out it ended up being better than HW

unique verge
#

Turns out, i was right

soft maple
#

That's why EW is going to be epic

craggy pawn
#

I wouldnt mind endwalker being a lil below shb.

hasty totem
#

By 6.0 it will be a foregone conclusion

#

So do not look at what the ending will be, but how they bring the story to that end.

soft maple
#

That's perfectly dope as well

tropic frigate
#

it'll be neat seeing what the 6.3 trial will be

soft maple
#

That's how elidibus worked

unique verge
tropic frigate
#

yea

soft maple
#

Like we knew we were going to stop him

unique verge
#

6.3 is not going to function like 5.3 or 4.3 or 3.3

tropic frigate
#

but how they go about it after the story ends in 6.0

unique verge
#

Its not a wrapup like in previous expansions

viscid monolith
#

There's plenty of reason ti be excited for 6.3

gaunt star
#

6.1 will probably be an aftermath of 6.0 with teaser in its end PaimonCookies

craggy pawn
#

We will finally destroy zenos prolly

unique verge
#

The biggest thing to happen in 6.3 will probably be in the 8 man

gaunt star
#

for the next arc

unique verge
#

I anticipate the MSQ slowing down significantly in 6.1 / 6.2 at minimum in order to build up the next "big threat"

viscid monolith
#

Even if it's the start of a new arc 6.3 can still tie up loose ends

tropic frigate
#

they might also do some beast tribe stuff

soft maple
#

I'm sure it'll be hinted at towards the middle of EW

tropic frigate
#

with 6.3

ruby hull
#

so the 6.x series will be a full story rather than start a new one around 6.3

#

interesting and expected

placid sail
#

maybe they'll take a msq "break" in 6.1 and 6.2 to focus on side content like the island

gaunt star
#

next big threat Anima Prime

unique verge
#

Well, i expect 6.1 is still going to heavily be "6.0 aftermath"

unique verge
#

Garlemald appears to be destined to be the equivalent of having been hit with a nuke.

ruby hull
#

aftermath will most likely be post 6.x where we might get a new calamity along with major game changes

gaunt star
#

6.3 Garlemald Restoration

soft maple
#

Like bozja?

unique verge
#

We'll "win" at the end of 6.0 - but at what cost, and what will be left

ruby hull
#

I expect the new calamity to feature level squish and removal of classes so only jobs remain from level one

soft maple
#

No

tropic frigate
#

removal of pet jobs e z

placid sail
#

i expect the final cap to be 99 tbh

gaunt star
#

7.0 = A Realm RE:Reborn POGGIES

ruby hull
#

Yoshi did say that "one day" he will somehow tweak classes since they are an outdated relic from 1.0

craggy pawn
viscid monolith
#

I would rather they not even bother removing classes

#

What would be the point

gaunt star
#

kanekimmm tbh i wish xiv got the NGS treatment but its a lot of work for SE

soft maple
#

That's deleting something that's a part of job's identity

unique verge
#

Classes are weird but you dont really gain that much by removing them

#

I dont see the point

#

because the dev time required would be very high

soft maple
#

It's more of a loss than a gain

primal sundial
gaunt star
soft maple
#

Most importantly

#

I'm pretty sure that lunar bahamut

unique verge
#

In all seriousness though, i wanna now how that fucker is building all these structures

#

Because that giant ass tower in Garlemald sure as shit wasnt built by people

soft maple
#

Has a major something to do with THAT lol

gaunt star
#

inb4 Fandanny caused the final days back at amaurot days PaimonCookies

soft maple
#

No

unique verge
#

Alot of people are saying that

#

Its a feasible option

craggy pawn
#

Honestly it is weird that fandy knows how to recreate the final days

unique verge
#

There's a few red flags about him regarding his past.

soft maple
#

Yeah but that feels weak

gaunt star
#

inb4 the Moon is hydaelyn and zodiark the planet

soft maple
#

I'm pretty sure they had some semblance of an idea

unique verge
#

Ive said this a few times, but basically

soft maple
#

The reason why they resorted to zodiark was because they didn't have time for any other option, I believe

unique verge
#

I find hard to believe that the Final Days happened "on their own" just due to creation magic.

gaunt star
#

cause like if Zodiark was shattered, why is hydaelyn the one whose split PaimonCookies

unique verge
#

because of how heavily regulated Amaurotine society had made Creation

gaunt star
#

tbh even they werent sure what caused it

soft maple
#

I don't believe that either

gaunt star
#

Fandaniel definitely knows tho

unique verge
#

Yeah it was speculated to be out of control creation magic

#

but

soft maple
#

They described it as a sickening of the planet itself

unique verge
#

who knows

craggy pawn
#

They didnt even attempt to look what caused it

unique verge
#

Planet parasite (Lavos, Jenova) is an option of course

soft maple
#

They were trying to find out

unique verge
#

Fandaniel or other bad actors are another option

soft maple
#

But they were also weighing options on how to protect themselves and also the planet

unique verge
#

"it just happened" seems the least likely option

viscid monolith
#

I hate Fandaniel's accent so much

#

It's so exaggerated

kind lark
#

Yeah something caused the sickness

soft maple
#

Yeah, I do think something was tampered with to some extent

gaunt star
#

ok whose the telophoroi Sweats

unique verge
#

We know literally nothing about that other than the name

#

and that its pretty lame to call your gang the Telephone Gang

viscid monolith
gaunt star
#

word*

unique verge
#

Its too complicated of a made up name so i'll never remember it

primal sundial
#

All this information will be dropped in 6.0 and we’ll all be like “duuude”

gaunt star
#

i will be like 'called it!'

kind lark
#

Turns out lalafells were behind it all

soft maple
#

I don't think fandaniel had something to do with the final days directly

#

And if he did, then his intent must have been different back then

unique verge
#

My assumption is that Fandaniel is serving some larger evil.

soft maple
#

It's still bizarre for him to want death even now

#

Yeah

#

He still refers to zodiark as lord but

#

Zodiark was made with salvation in mind

#

Unless it's some twisted form of salvation he wants

unique verge
#

Nah its not gonna be Zodiark, he is practically mocking every time he uses "Lord" in that context

soft maple
#

Which...seems plausible

#

I mean yeah but he proudly still uses his title

#

And also did the mask thing™

livid vault
unique verge
#

I kinda get the vibe in the trailer that when Fandaniel is staring into the fire that it was some sort of "communication"

craggy pawn
#

Maybe he is controlled in some way by the thing that started the final days.

soft maple
#

You know what, if we look into that map

#

The map in the trailer depicts the tower as someone glowing

#

*something

#

I feel as if that tower's a giant beacon

#

Not unlike the crystal tower

kind lark
rancid dune
#

Giant beacon for the Tower of Babil from FF4

#

And we meet Rubicante, Cagnazzo, Barbariccia and Scarmiglione which then turn into the Elemental Archfiend trials (I really hope something like this were to happen but I doubt it)

soft maple
#

I think the sound is going to go off in 5.5

#

In a minor scale

craggy pawn
#

Hmm maybe the sound was some kind of tempering.

next quarry
#

Cag as the dungeon boss(es) before the last 3 are trials

soft maple
#

Ah doubtful

next quarry
#

nt cag

#

not cag

#

scar

soft maple
#

Tempering makes you bend to the will to the one you're tempered to

#

The sound made you FEAR it, if anything

unique verge
#

In other random thoughts

#

I like the new PLD AF gear from the trailer

#

but all i can think of is how shit its going to be when it goes dyable

rough kestrel
#

Why would you dare

#

It's perfect

unique verge
#

Yes. In its current state its perfect.

#

Buuuuut its gonna accept dyes stupid

rough kestrel
#

I hope only the cape and waist part is dyable

unique verge
#

because SE cant figure out how to do that without it being shit

gaunt star
ember forum
#

Good gosh, why they make us do 36 rqids T.T

unique verge
#

Yes that would be the logic thing to do.

next quarry
#

the AF makes me think of a traveling Paladin

#

I love it

unique verge
#

If the dyes only effected the "cloth" sections it would be perfect

rough kestrel
#

All I've ever wanted in XIV is just "Knight gear"

unique verge
#

but you know how it'll actually work

rough kestrel
#

And we finally get some

unique verge
#

dye will effect the metal and cloth both, and the cloth will all convert to some god-awful blend of your selected color mixed with white

rough kestrel
#

Some of the Ishgardian stuff is okay but too over the top

next quarry
#

I wanna see if the new DNC AF is more thav than ever

soft maple
#

Oh yeah

#

I think the best shot of the trailer

#

Is this

unique verge
#

Like, the amount of gear in this game that i cannot dye because of that fucking thing is infuriating

soft maple
#

Hands down

unique verge
#

Oh, you want to dye this red? Sorry, half of its going to turn red, and half of its going to turn pink

kind lark
#

what even is that light?

next quarry
tranquil flower
#

the sun

unique verge
rough kestrel
#

My only concern with 6.x is "Oh no every dungeon set is going to be fucking Thavnir and like eastern european themed" yoshiPain

ember forum
soft maple
#

No

#

It's not the sun

autumn heron
#

Very few sets in the game look good dyed

soft maple
#

Look at that shot right there

kind lark
next quarry
#

it is the sun

rough kestrel
#

Its fantasy sun

forest magnet
soft maple
#

The sun too off for that shot

unique verge
#

I mean, if its not the sun, its a fucking nuke

forest magnet
unique verge
#

because its sure as shit not the planet

#

and you've only got two celestial bodies to pick from

rough kestrel
#

Thavnir is a Samurai's worst nightmare, because it's just "HEY MORE MONK GEAR"

#

"Get fucked Sam"

soft maple
#

It's behind earth in that sequence

#

It's not behind the moon

kind lark
#

The elephants don't give a shit about samurais

next quarry
#

i think only the level 61 dungeon is thavnir related

rough kestrel
#

Though I hope that Garlean train station gives us some cool as fuck Garlean stuff

soft maple
#

Maybe it IS a nuke

next quarry
#

81*

vagrant sinew
#

where are you getting eastern europe from lmao

soft maple
#

Could be the planet in a different lense

forest magnet
#

it's the sun

#

for one

gaunt star
soft maple
#

No it's not

forest magnet
#

The planet doiesn't cast a shadow

#

the sun does

#

you can see in that shot

gaunt star
kind lark
#

why would the wol be walking into the sun?

forest magnet
#

that the planet doesn't generate enough light to overpower the sun

forest magnet
tranquil flower
#

The WoL is walking away from the sun

craggy pawn
tranquil flower
#

he's walking towards the camera in that shot

pastel coyote
#

..... because the wol represent the sun among the ancient ?

soft maple
#

It does if it's hydaelyn shining from the planet

#

He's walking from the light

kind lark
#

I think wol has been hit on the head too many times

rough kestrel
#

It's clearly Sun for artistic effect

soft maple
#

And ends up looking at the earth

#

Which as the sun in view also

gaunt star
next quarry
#

the earth cannot reflect that much light

soft maple
#

Maybe it's artistic expression

rough kestrel
#

"maybe"

next quarry
#

maybe the sun is an artistic expression

gaunt star
#

what if the Sun in FFXIV is going to be the new arcs villain

forest magnet
gaunt star
next quarry
#

god I hope so

rough kestrel
#

"I am your sun, WoL"

next quarry
#

kill us all

soft maple
#

...

rough kestrel
#

"My what?"

forest magnet
#

You can see where the sun should be

gaunt star
#

we go from dethrone god to dethrone sun

forest magnet
#

There's only one light source in that shot of Derplander walking

forest magnet
#

and it's the sun.

soft maple
#

Look at the rays

forest magnet
#

There's one source of light in that image you just posted

#

it's the sun.

#

it's the fucking sun.

forest magnet
#

idk what else it could be cmon

rough kestrel
#

It's the fucking sun, stop being a pedantic crazy person.

#

It's all for effect anyway

forest magnet
#

That lightsource behind derplander is the only source of light in that image

soft maple
#

It could just as easily be something else

unique verge
#

The only alternative to that being the sun is that the Source is in the process of exploding or someone fired a literal nuke at the moon

rough kestrel
#

You know what

gaunt star
#

WHAT IF thats the portal we used to get on the moon Kapp

rough kestrel
#

It's the deathstar

#

Happy

gaunt star
#

and it just looks like sun Kapp

next quarry
#

arent we using a ship sath

gaunt star
#

i dont know im not ishikawa

autumn heron
#

Thats what it likely is

kind lark
#

idk, it could be some magic stuff

rough kestrel
#

We're using a giant tomestone given to us by Rowena.

gaunt star
#

maybe the space ship from the logo is on the moon!

rough kestrel
#

Flying to the moon on it

forest magnet
#

It could be

soft maple
#

Like

gaunt star
#

and thats how we go bacc!

next quarry
#

TRUE

pastel coyote
#

I will make it easy to understand: it's the sun, the wol is dressed as an ancient and his seat among them represent the sun, it's just fucking symbolic.

forest magnet
#

but right now from what we know most likely candidate is the sun.

#

:/

gaunt star
#

AZEM POGGIES

soft maple
#

If you look at the wol's being on the moon, the sun is in two different places

#

At both shots

tranquil flower
#

No it isn't

soft maple
#

Yes it is

unreal rivet
#

Anyone know when we can buy the Ticket to get the Lunar Whale? Don't wanna miss it

gaunt star
#

may 15th

tranquil flower
gaunt star
#

when fanfest starts

#

umuThink i think

rough kestrel
#

Also, if you want to go meme route, Azem's silhouette looks like a Grim Reaper, which Yoshi has on all his shirts geese

next quarry
#

you can preorder it iirc

unreal rivet
#

That's.... weird. Thought they sell the Tickets before

gaunt star
#

they did say the whale would be on the store

next quarry
#

no

vagrant sinew
unreal rivet
#

No

unique verge
#

@warm bone

rough kestrel
#

What is wrong with you

forest magnet
gaunt star
#

summonig smuggers

unreal rivet
#

If the whale will be in the store even better

gaunt star
#

it will cost like 50 bucks pandamoney

rough kestrel
#

The Luna Whale is symbolic, if you buy it, you are the Moon Whale.

sturdy estuary
#

i dont think people care what it costs considering how many chocobo carriages i saw when that first dropped

unreal rivet
#

I spent for way worse in the past so whatever

soft maple
#

Just rewatched the trailer

rough kestrel
#

Sath, I dont think thats how lasers work

pallid fox
#

I don't think any of us will be able to resist buying that sweet, sweet, 8-person mount... no matter what the cost.

soft maple
#

The sun like disappears in the transition to the title

rough kestrel
#

It must be something else

gaunt star
#

@late willow a dude advertises their discord server, stop being a jedi!

next quarry
#

meara already dealt with it

gaunt star
#

oh

#

NingguangFlirt_Kuurimu ok go back to jedi

soft maple
#

So I guess if they're just moving the sun around for convenience sake, then what I'm saying doesn't matter

rough kestrel
#

Yes.

#

Congrats.

primal sundial
soft maple
#

But if the sun ISN'T being moved, then that light is something else

pallid fox
#

Or

gaunt star
#

ure playing a game where u can breath on space and u wonder about the light effects?

primal sundial
#

it's literally just the sun

pallid fox
#

OR

primal sundial
#

for show

gaunt star
rough kestrel
#

The light is our rage.

pallid fox
#

Consider: planetary bodies in space move

next quarry
#

the sun has oxygen

#

the moon has oxygen

gaunt star
#

give me oxygen

next quarry
#

sath has oxygen

soft maple
#

I didn't even bring it up as a topic lol

rough kestrel
#

Small indie company please understand, no oxygen for you

gaunt star
unique verge
#

The beginning of the trailer, tbh

soft maple
#

I'm giving my two cents to the person who actually asked

next quarry
#

okay

#

die

unique verge
#

it feels implied that Derplander has been wandering the moon for a really long time

gaunt star
kind lark
primal sundial
#

he's walking in circles on the moon

unique verge
#

His armor is all kinds of fucked up and worn and covered in dust

gaunt star
#

OR the derplander got his ass kicked by Zenos so we go on the moon

cedar wadi
#

Zenos kicked not-Ardbert into the moon

gaunt star
#

stormblood 2.0 POGGIES

soft maple
#

All good

rough kestrel
#

It turns out he's still wandering the area from the start of SHB trailer, he just went insane from solitude and thinks he's now on the moon.

unique verge
#

Kinda wondering if there's going to be some sort of story-turn there where Fandaniel dumps us there as a last resort

soft maple
#

If he's walking in circles, that plausible too

wet crown
#

What if Derplander goes to the moon to absorb Zodiark, instead of Hydaelyn?

gaunt star
#

i wonder which scion will die PaimonCookies

strange dock
#

Moons haunted

rough kestrel
#

Graha

soft maple
gaunt star
#

yeah probably graha

#

hes a Tia anyway, hes already hopeless

rough kestrel
#

It's going to be Graha, we were baited, he's too OP

#

All that work to journey with us and he gets snuffed out

craggy pawn
#

Graha getting to live and then dying snael

gaunt star
#

i loved how they announced garlemald tho

soft maple
#

Which scion is going to fake die?

#

I know

craggy pawn
#

Yshtola

gaunt star
#

we are going to garlemald-its a little ruined tho hehe

soft maple
#

Ahem

#

Y'shtola and Urianger

dusky leaf
#

I'll take anybody's sacrifice as long as G'raha gets to live

ember forum
#

Yay

#

34 more raids to go 😩

unique verge
#

Like, look how fucked up Derplanders boot is at the start vs. how shiny clean it is at the end. That feels like "i've been walking aimlessly for weeks" fucked up.

cedar wadi
gaunt star
coral kite
#

At this point i've asssumed our main party is safe but who knows

rough kestrel
gaunt star
# coral kite None

i wish, but people got annoyed ShB had no casualties from the scions xd

unique verge
#

It doesnt really strike me as worn from battle

cedar wadi
wet crown
#

that's pure gameplay

unique verge
#

Yeah but its the same set as from the end of the video where its shiny clean

cedar wadi
#

what scion died in Stormblood?

sturdy estuary
#

i liked how they tried to make you think thancred would die but he was the only tank for trust

wet crown
#

Lore is very clear that Derplander frequently shops at Rowena's

gaunt star
soft maple
#

There are scratch marks all over it

primal sundial
#

Yes because the only way to write a good story is to make someone you care about die

coral kite
wet crown
#

Yda was dead before even 1.0

soft maple
#

That's heavenward though

cedar wadi
#

She was dead all along

gaunt star
#

tbh the fact she lost so much personality butchered her

soft maple
#

And technically, yeah that

coral kite
#

Well "Yda"

ember forum
#

Yda is Lyse right?

gaunt star
#

ishikawa please fix

wet crown
#

No

ember forum
#

If my mem serves me

wet crown
#

Lyse is Lyse

coral kite
#

Nah

unique verge
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Allegedly a Scion died at the end of Heavensward, but i dont remember anyone important dying.

rough kestrel
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Minfilia died off in SHB much to my relief.

soft maple
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Yeah "Yda" died in heavensward

wet crown
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Yda was Lyse's sister

coral kite
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Lyse disguises herself as Yda because sister issues and insecurity

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She stops doing it at the end of HW

gaunt star
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Papalimo died post-ARR if i remember right? umuThink

wet crown
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3.5

soft maple
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No

cedar wadi
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no

soft maple
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Post hw

cedar wadi
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end of HW

gaunt star
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o

rough kestrel
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SB literally starts with Papa death and Yda reveal

kind lark
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The last dungeon of HW

gaunt star
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ok i got confused xd

unique verge
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Perhaps my sarcasm was unclear

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I'll be more specific

rough kestrel
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3.3 was HW, 3.4 onwards is SB

unique verge
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A potato died and nothing of value was lost.

gaunt star
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but ye i dont wanna see scions die pensive_rage_gif

primal sundial
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the end of HW was an excuse to get rid of Papalymo and "Yda"

gaunt star
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meanwhile a sicko on OF wants to see the twins killed

soft maple
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Yeah but is papalymo actually dead?

gaunt star
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yes

unique verge
gaunt star
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official forums

unique verge
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Oh

cedar wadi
unique verge
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I assumed OF to mean something else lmao

soft maple
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Didn't like the twins

rough kestrel
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For a long time I thought we were gonna learn the Twins arent real because they were never shown in ANY CG at any point despite being with us almost at all times.

gaunt star
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i only read them cause the people on it are worse than reddit

soft maple
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Shb made me like alisaie

gaunt star
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Alisaie went from meh to a great character PaimonCookies

cedar wadi
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twins look pretty dope in 6.0 ngl

soft maple
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Yeah

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I mean

gaunt star
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i want Alisaies jacket

livid vault
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Alisaie was great from the second I met her in HW imo

gaunt star
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oh wait i can wear it i use mods.

soft maple
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What's alisaie's coat right now in the story?

rough kestrel
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Alisaie has been good since th Coils of Bahamut, the best story in ARR

unique verge
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Ehhh

soft maple
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I'm pretty sure it's the same

unique verge
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Not sure about that one

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Alisaie was written okay in Coils but uh

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that fucking VA

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lmao

rough kestrel
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I played in JP

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shrug

gaunt star
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i also play in JP

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its perfect

unique verge
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Alisaie's english VA in ARR was legendarily bad

rough kestrel
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I only switched to dub for SHB rewatching some cutscenes

unique verge
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Like you have no idea

rough kestrel
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ARR Alphinaud was Sam Riegal

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Scanlan Shortholt

soft maple
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Wait a second

gaunt star
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on my main i play the story in the superior dub[JP] and on my alt in english

soft maple
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Maybe the sun didn't move

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One sec

rough kestrel
livid vault
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I love her voice

kind lark
gaunt star
rough kestrel
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I don't really like dub Alisaie, the VA is good but I dont think it fits her, needs to be pitched up a bit

coral kite
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I mean bro

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I don't even rememebr what arr alisaie sounds like

rough kestrel
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@kind lark CR is great, been binging it for months

gaunt star
unique verge
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It sounds like they just grabbed a random female from the halls in the office

rough kestrel
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JP is a bit too anime

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For her

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Somewhere between the two would be fine

cedar wadi
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I like Alisaie much more than Alphie

gaunt star
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yeah

unique verge
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English Alisaie sounding mad is like.....part of her character though in my eyes

coral kite
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Yea I don't like how jp alisaie sounds at all, would prefer EN a million times over

unique verge
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She aint got time for your shit

rough kestrel
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The best line in SHB is totally Elidibus going "THIS I.... promised to... someone"

gaunt star
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she has time for my shit im the WoL

viscid monolith
rough kestrel
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That shit is great

kind lark
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@rough kestrel I've only watched a few eps but Matt is a living legend

rough kestrel
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Yeah he's great

royal spruce
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I wonder who's going to have the second new job in the second trailer The Warrior of light I'm guessing

soft maple
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Best line for shb is the line emet states

rough kestrel
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Also Liam O'brien and Laura Bailey, doing the 2 best characters in Nier Gestalt.

gaunt star
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Laura is such a good VA gasmm

rough kestrel
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@royal spruce What?

viscid monolith
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And Alphinaud is like a Dachshund

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A small dog with a better temper

soft maple
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Something something something found you wanting

unique verge
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You're referring to immediately after he shoots the Exarch

royal spruce
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@virtus ?

rough kestrel
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But WoL is a Paladin

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why would he also be new DPS

royal spruce
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No I was wondering if it was going to be like the stormblood trailer

gaunt star
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maybe he switches mid expansion Kappa

soft maple
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Stormblood trailer is terrible

viscid monolith
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Wouldn't be the first time Derp is 2 jobs at once

soft maple
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In hw it was warrior and drg

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Sb monk and sam

viscid monolith
royal spruce
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you know how in the stormblood trailer the first one he was job is monk but in the second trailer he switch to Samurai

rough kestrel
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No but it'd be weird if he got PLD it as a return to Light just to dump it immediately

viscid monolith
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Derp was a DRG in HW

soft maple
rough kestrel
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He was only WAR before he got to Ishgard

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And strips off mid trailer

soft maple
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Yeah war and drg

rough kestrel
#

That's... okay whatever

viscid monolith
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"It's not as good so it's bad" is an unhealthy mindset

rough kestrel
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After your sun shit I'm not going to bother

royal spruce
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But it could be just a background character like it was in the shadowbringers trailer that has the second job

soft maple
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That's literally inept in terms of summarizing what I said

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I said it's bad

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Compared to the others

royal spruce
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I wonder if the second trailer is going to have the clouds covering the map open up completely

rough kestrel
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That I do wonder

viscid monolith
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Stormblood trailer is terrible

It's legitimately bad compared to the others

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It's not as good so it's bad

kindred rampart
rough kestrel
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SB trailer is fine, I just dont give a shit about it compared to HW, ARR, SHB and EW

acoustic sail
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I just hope we don’t have to build a lunar lander, gather fuel, and other resource. Then do some mini game to land on the moon.

royal spruce
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The bots has a command to bring up the world map right

gaunt star
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SB trailer wasnt as hype tbh but it wasnt bad PaimonCookies

rough kestrel
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Moonlander mini game Jacobnut