#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
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Ouch
Cali cares not for our souls
Urianger liked Modimbra and she’s gone
you're still going to jail
Moenbryda
prove it
She may be gone.
My soul
Urianger seems to like Gaia too
Also ty, that makes sense. I was tripped up over how long it took for her to train.
Gaia needs to keep steppin'.
😠
no i meant prove im going to jail
Gaia is Ryne's age
I can ping a mod if you want
they'll be 17 by time of EW so there
lul
Ayermic should marry Lyse
He could do better
time doesn't advance
they'd still be 16
Fordola instead?
fordola best girl
Fordola gets Arenvald
tilts her head
Watch Lyse get with Hien
All the weak men of Eorzea cannot handle her
This.
You think Doms don't marry?
Not her.
makes a note
But not because dom.
Lyse gets with Raubahn is the obvious answer
I always liked Magnai/Cirina
Arenvald deserves a nice girl. Fordola bad.
They are almost inseparable now
Speaking of unwanted Xeala
yo but serious question, why havent we seen any romance during this entire game other than thancred?
Ouch
Fordola is not bad you take that shit back
yo know fordola and magnai would make a good couple
Pipin and Nanamo
Little sun~
Are you my Nhaama
Arenvald is precious cinnamon roll too pure for this Earth.
😳
There's a ton of romance in FF14, just gotta look for it
and arenvald and sadu would be good too
We basically go find a girls' lover in Eulmore
Hien and Cirina, Magnai and anyone else, Runar and Y'shtola, Moenbryda and Urianger
What do you think will happen with little Sun
Lamitt and Ardbert
Alphinaud should date Fordola
@teal geyser are dead
This.
He will go to the moon to find Nhaama
the way Runar picks up Y'shtola is so cringe
I see what you did there Lex
he must be the insert for all the weirdos
@frank raptor we're going to go to the Moon only to find that Magnai beat us there
Hmm, Yugiri and Hien be the same age
hugs Zodiark
the obvious answer is Hien and Sadu Khatun
Yugiri is too subservient to Hien for anything to happen there
Yugiri is an independent woman married to her work
Kunoichi gf
Pft
What about Kuranai? Does Hien know her?
how else can Hien unify Othard unless he marries the leader of the Azim Steppes
The Raen?
Yugiri and Hien confuse me because there is a short story only available in that one physical book about him, Yugiri, and Cirina and I swear to god that she feels for Hien BUT knows that Hien and Cirina love each other and keeps trying to make them work
Oh yeah, Mikoto and Cid
Yugiri with our NIN NPC? XD (forgot his name)
Kurenai is top tier in cuteness
Well, the whole situation in the east could play out like a rom com if SE wanted to
The expansion after Endwalker. I can see us going to the new world
Just like the Komi-san manga
No it's Oboro
Why we forgot our best couple guys?
Rowena X Gernolt
okay but what about a Dalmasca expansion?
Is Dalmasca on Othard? Or Ilsabard? I don't remember.
Dulia and Nuhz
Othard near Ilsabard
I love Dulia and Chai
or even maybe on Endwalker. "New Dawn" right?
The only married but act like not married couple
Okay by "east" i only mean Doma and Hinigashi lol
Realistic marriage.
rude
Dalmasca would have a middle east vibe anyways, nothing like SB
Alpihnaud is their son
Just get me out of that aesthetic
Can't fight facts
Dulia and Chai may be some of the best written characters in the game— I wouldn’t be surprised if they were based on someone irl
Indeed suitable for Chai Nuts name
XD
dulia x alphi
the only true romance in FF14 is Curious Gorge and Dorgono
ugh
How about the hildibrand femalr assitant with the creepy lurker lala?
Cali is a hater tonight
Nah
I always am
Nanamo and Pipin
yes
THIS 100%
Nanamo is a teenager
Miss Valentione would disagree
How old is Pipin
nanamo and raubahn
when it comes to lalas all the shipping is weird tbh
Pipin is 25
Wtf
Bruh
Nanamo and Pipin are fine ages
5 year rule
That's not a thing
the scholar lala definitely violates that one
Pipin was already a man when we met him in ARR
Alisaie and alphinaud
Hang on
Nanamo 21
what are you doing ~~step ~~bro
Pipin is 25
idk I think he's pretty much done with Ul'dah. He's wholly devoted to Ala Mhigo and Lyse now.
I could see Pipin and Nanamo
imagine being dedicated to Lyse
Alisaie and Ga Bu OTP
Nah, Raubahn oath is done
if lyse didn't have the personality of wallpaper paste she'd be fine
Ayermic should marry Merylb or Kan-E.
Please
Tsuyu and Gosetsu anyone?
Merl and Mistbeard
Mistbeard is dead though
Aymeric and Lucia
WHOyu and GosetsWHO?
mistbeard is never dead
Zhloe and Adhikriag (or however u spell his name)
the legend is immortal
well the 'original' Mistbeard is dead
Pft Mistbeard is her second in command
Or on his deathbed at least
Merylwyb and Raubahn
Mistbeard is like the Dread Pirate Roberts
Is he gonna hire a hitman and the FBI catch him?
Lucia is under Auermic’s command; that’s a bit awkward
Lucia wants to do the salt lick with Aymeric
Someone please get that reference
Nashu is 100% wife material.
no
Dweaded Piwate Woberts
she's dumb as a rock and can't do anything right
was she? I don't remember that part
nashu is trash waifu material
salty gift from Aymeric
Nomura and our Belts
Merlwyb and a male viera
I remember that one quest line in limsa where you're tracking down mistbeard's treasure ended up with you finding out that merlwyb was mistbeard
Merylwyb should totally go for Raubahn
"I'd climb that mountain"
and then slafyrsyn takes over after she gives up the title
i...i'm pretty sure that was just saying what's his name was mistbeard
noooooooo
Btw, alisaie is literally have crush on WoL or only very admire him/her?
alisaie has no crush on WoL
Azem and Grapes
please do since I have no idea where to even begin to look 
admire
G'raha Tia has a crush
when
So many people have crushes on WoL
Haurch
@random ravine yeah she totally does
You could argue Emet Selch
slafyrsyn is mistbeard now but he's only mistbeard because merlwyb gave up the title after she became the grand admiral of limsa
big time
Zenos
DREAD PIRATE ROBERTS
Alisaie is gonna kill G'raha and be the final boss of FFXIV
literally wants the body
Aymeric
Sadu
The WoL has a crush on Yshitola... because the Yshitola told him/her to stop examining her backside in the Rakita Greatwood 😝
ugh, sadu
Wait what Merlwyb was never Mistbeard
It's Y'shtola
"yes mommy..."
Yashitola
imagine having a girlfriend who wants you to punch her so hard she coughs blood
Yshtola is a furry now. Pure degenerate.
Yoshtila
otherwise she can't get off
"Hah, don't make me put you over my knee"
The WoL is canonically a goofy person
"Guys our suicidal postergirl needs character development"
Ishikawa: "Make her a mommy"
Azem
A goofy killing machine to be exact
^
WoL is in a wonderful marriage with a ex ishgardian woman
Who?
Ystride?
Yeah
Wait
Are you getting this from uh
Eynzahr Slafyrsyn: “Aye, Mistbeard was not one man, but many. For generations, both name and mask have been inherited by those deemed worthy. And so the legend continued. But now that legend will come to an end, for the last Mistbeard has found a new purpose in life: one woman and her dream of a brighter future for Limsa Lominsa.
this quote
I didnt remember meeting anyone named Ystride @_@
I get big sis vibes from y'shtola.
yeah
Speaking of ishgard tho. Hilda?
Yes it's basically the convocation
As the oldest of 3, I concur
Damber I'm sorry to say this but uh
Shtola is becoming too much like Matoya for me to have interest in her
Dark Knight Quest = Ystride
that's not saying Merlwyb was a Mistbeard
Merlwyb was the captain of the League of Bastards
Ohh, my DRK still lvl50 lol
After killing her dad
that's saying that he, as Mistbeard found a new purpose in life, Merlwyb
aka
they be fuckiiing
Drk quests so good
Heh
Roe couples am I right?
It’s hard to imagine people mistaking Merylb as having a beard💡
Merl x Eynzahr
Speaking of mistbread its BS that helm doesnt work on bun
How about Alphinaud and Ray-O senna?
#bunproblems
Sadly i'm not very liking DRK rotation. But if i got exp ring like most expansion pre order. I think i'll level it up for the sake of amaro too
Raya is too old for Alphinaud
She's...not that old is she? googles
How old is Ray-O?
I thought raya was the same age?
squints
oh 21
Wait I got her mixed up with Kana my bad
Damn Padjali throwing off my age-radar
Wait she's 21?
😮 21???
I thought she and her brother were still kid ages
Edda and Avere.... FOREVER 
Like damn lalas
shithead boy is 17
How old is whm guy
She's dumb
i thought this was 6.0 spoilers
Be nice to Alphinoodle
She the only one that will love you even after death.
He tries his best
as I said, shithead boy is 17
Here’s the age chart yet again
why are we talking about who should shag who
🤔
nashu is why you died in the first place
grr
blew your ass up with an errant bomb
Yep
who's the girl in between emmeliaine and livia?
I'm good without blowing up
Alexander raid npc
also side note, i can't believe emmeliaine and livia are the same age
Hien is wife mateiral
aka do your fucking raids snack
Nashu is just explosive. 
how did you answer that so fast damn
it was an easy question
That chart is a damn lie
Soooo... odds?
woulda been faster but i typo'd
G'Raha is 124
0
XD
324 thanks
324?
I mean, it is a garlean thing.
yeah
so I can hammer everything to death
Where'd the other 2 centuries come from?
🔨
he spent 200 years on the source before he went to the future
i am doing my alexander raids
i jst didn't recognize her
So then do we add the years other scioms stayed on the first
And there's enough of 'em. A slow SMASH HAMMAH melee DPS isn't out of the question, since we have slow-ass mage already
And DNC isn't exactly.. zoom
Do the story too
She comes in about halfway @random ravine
SMASH IT WITH A HAMMAH
How old is Avery?
ahem
no because G'raha was whole in body
Avere
@radiant badger warriors have hammers
21
WRONG LEVAHHHHH
21? But Edda’s 16?
LEVIATHUN
Edda's dead
everyone's dead 😌
Why do we even have that lever
They all spent so much time ragging on Edda instead of helping her
Like damn
He's 19
she couldn't even handle being an honest healer
Snack is dumb
she deserved to be shit on
So Avere is a creep?
Tank adjust
Yes
🤔
it could be worse
Well....
True
"abuse" 
Yes
It's at the very least not far from normal right?
green dps who heal tanks sometimes
isn't 16/18 okay?
I don't know US rules well
and apparently the internet operates on US rules
it's different for each state
Rescue 
i think 15 is ok in some states
Hey I won't kinkshame
I will. Degenerates! Burn them!
She's 16
Yeah.
Legal in most states
16 is legal in my state.
no one said she wasn't

Snack is right
never said alisaie was 15
The derp is strong tonight
Well I like Y'shtola so I'm safe. 😊
Also this convo is on the knifes edge from devolving into heresy
Perhaps pull back before its too late
What?
👀
when can we preorder for fan festival aka preorder for lunar whale
flees
How old is mother M somthing
What?
Aren't they just putting it up on Mog Station as is?
Miounne?
old enough
im too lazy to chase. goes back to bed

Flihamin?
I think lunar whale and the minion is available on may. Stated on website
She like 34
Grindiana adventure guild
She's in her 20's. i forget what. There's a graphic somewhere
Mood
@frank raptor ty
Please correct me if wrong. 
Uhhhhh
lunar whale is for fan festival
the holy 8 mount
step side 2 person whale
your days are over
Ardbert wasn't Azems soul in the first
36
Chart
She's 36
What if i have no friends?
Younger than Momodi
Ahhhhh okay.
Momodi is a lala
2 person whale are for the 9th and 10th "friends."
Momodi is in her 40s
Yes he was
They live to like 400
You'll find out where you stand amongst your group. 
If you're not on big whale, you're on little whale.
They don't but I suspect this was a joke
I stand corrected, i forgot the picture and thought 26 instead of 36. For reference from #archived-lore-spoilers
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/226353385706618880/731261688338317392/EZ8zBejWAAIKRYJ.png
I know my whole fc is gonna buy the whale so
Ages of most relevant characters
nobody is gonna be together
7.0 they will introduce 24man alliance raid mount
@regal lantern no way, I found the real Azem
how old is WOL hmmmmmmmm
Hildibrand 2 Alliance raid. 
Missed opportunity to add "legal age" line
hey, its not my picture, im just reposting
Is that chart official? Yshitola is only 23?😮
Btw, where is julyan manderville?
If you read the picture it literally says that Yshtola lies about her age
Oh my
Do you see her frying pan?
👀
Hildy fears it for a reason
do I have to repost my math on how old Y'shtola really is?
nanamo is 21 woo
Hell if i know. I think i saw it quoted once but i dont remember.
Twas
Yes post the math
Nanamo is the cutest lala.
Nanamo x Pippin is something I can believe in
Here's Azems real soul on the first
hype
the whole thing between Runar and Y'shtola is the closest we'll ever get
unfortuantely
Even in Star Wars they have romance plot lines...
That's okay, there's romances in my head
theres theres aymeric and uhhh
Lucia
@forest magnet uuuuh Nanamo and Pipin are pretty obvious
The problem with romance plot lines is that they tie down the writer unless they are specifically planned for ahead of time and incorporated into future events.
smug is uwu
The Blonde
UwU
I mean it's heavily featured in 3 movies so I don't see how that's far fetched?
Aymeric has a crush on the WoL
Don't think we have an age actually but if you take Hildibrand's age and assume Julyan is 16 at his birth since she's SUPER young when she had him, that puts her at....a scary age of 39
23
crushes are not serious romance but yea
Hm
most of the 'romance' in this game is crushes
Someone should marry someone in 6.0!
old
what about that Miqote and the twin Roes?
Godbert is 56
huh?
theres also the crush on brayflox
squint
how old is matoya?
1000000
Dirt
Give it time now that Pipin is Nanamo's protector that will build
Matoya is older than her teeth
What was max crit damage at level 50? I'm curious
Matoya as old as Louisioux
Kan-E is a robot, so they should give her a romance plot line
But for real the EE literally just says "unknown" and there is 0 ways to work it out. Since she's old and also butted heads a lot with Louisoix I'd go with Law and say she'd be around the same age
Graha is oldest scion
nope
Pipin replaced Raubhan after SB.
Okay, but who
Well
mentally yes he's the oldest scion
yeah he is
okay technically G'raha is
ye
G'raha's body is not the oldest, but that fucker has been alive for hundreds of years
especially 2.0 g'raha
He's basically Nanamo's guardian now
Fucky logic here Nubity
She's 32 bare minimum btw
She lies
Yeah time fuckery and merging with the crystal tower
he still got that good ol'
👉 👈
froze his body from aging
And with him being closer to her age and a lalafell they can actually build something with that
Them together is adorable
Doesn't stop this guy
It's safe to talk about how G'raha is actually an old man because his physical age is 24. No crossing of stupid lines.
uhm
Lol someone had to do it
Problem?
AHA I FOUND IT
because if so that's pretty 
Where the heck is this dude?
The source of people believing Ranjit was still alive
Moon's haunted
Dear lord
Moonwalker.
I'm saying that if you dont think thats a line that matters, you might be super fucking degen
wow funny joke
Moonbringers
is the Moon's primal gonna be a giant robotic creepy MJ?
Yeah
sephirot sized
I don't think that's a discussion we should have on this channel.
It's Zodiark
Never forget that we never saw young Raubahn's face
How many years had it been from ARR to EW? Shouldn’t Alisae be like 20 by now?
Literally my point.
Zodiark is locked inside the moon
0
Years don't advance
If you can't tell i'm joking then...
FF exists in a time bubble. Nobody has aged. Time hasnt passed.

that'd mean rewriting all the quests all the time for all possibilites
So.
Wibby wobbly timey wimey
Time bubble
It'll always be stuck in the same year for all intents and purposes
6.1 and up's plot will be that the WOL realizes that they are stuck in time.
It's The Simpsons
And we must help them grow old.
D’OH
"hi I'm raven darkmoon from balmung, I was wondering when you would add the ability to play as children?"
inb4 we fail at the end of 6.0 and timeskip occurs
FFXIV: Timebringers
Time For!
Time Force!
Leave it to Balmung
And then 12.0 will be FFXIV: Year's End
Ban that entire server, nothing of value would be lost
that's the breakdown of every Q&A session
RP is a mistake
you guys hyped for Anima/
I know what the new melee job will be
the twins are officially mentally 17 tho, because they said a year passed for them in norvrandt
also to akchsually you, there's some throwaway lines in 4.0 that say it's been a year since Kaien was killed, and like that happened in 2.1 or so, so that couldbe interpreted as a year having passed. And somewhere in ShB they say something to the effect of "it's been many moons since you were the emissary of (chosen city)". The calendar will still never advance though.
thirsty bitch asks about hybrids, salty bitch asks about housing, degen asks about playing as children
Sage but with cleric stance.
It's Superman
Ya Anima looks great
I'm going to have a field day on this one
the entire time yoshi-p is just like "who the fuck let these people in"
Glad they redesigned her
I keep thinking of Anima as my precious little fairy
Sage just looks so cool and makes me wonder will i finish the expansion as a healer
there's not gonna be one
We do have an offical timeline
didn't they like, officially say that the time bubble is gonna stay on
They didn't say it was going away?
And they reiterated it would be staying at the last fanfest
Time bubble is still not going anywhere
So there's no reason to believe it would be going away
or there's any reason why it would
if it was going away, it would go away with an expansion
Endwalker clearly does not do this
so its staying
I feel like that's less "aging" and more "he's seen some shit"
derplander looks like he's in his late 30s by the 5.0 trailer
He's done a lot
So Ramza was a Warrior of Light so that means he was you right?
Though amusing, aging the WoL is the one thing they CAN do
laid a lot of pipe 
WoL has seen some shit
^
Not all WoL's are Azem
I'm just kinda sad about the time bubble because watching the twins go through the growing pain of going from like 5 foot tall to a fucking giraffe would be hilarious
Alisaie: help everything hurts
Alphinaud: tries to take a step and falls over
Also our soul can't be in two places at the same time
There should be a plot line where the WoL has to decide who to@marry; Yshitola, Lyse, Fordola or Alisaae
that's not how it works
if Ramza had our soul
it wouldn't work
because the soul would have to be both be in Ramza who's holding the seal
and in us
A lot of stress and work for derplander
Just make a second soul. 
just have more soul 5head
Well, we have that soul now
I forgot about Arbert!
Ardbert is inside us
jokes on you if I ever marry anyone it'll be my precious branch, I legit adore them
"Kairi is inside me?"
Basically we did a piccolo fusion
Derp grew a beard and lost weight
I need that 5 o'clock shadow
All that extra beef has turned lean 
His jaw is chiseled from all of those face exercises
right let's address this problem in waves
- Twin mental age literally means nothing
- true also he died BEFORE the events of 2.0, it's also not clear how long between the crushed rebellion and Yugiri leaving took place, then factor in the 2 month trip, probably a bit longer since they had shitty boats. I think given that there is room for it to actually have been a year without moving the timeline too much, also factor in that character could have easily been rounding up
- moons is days, maybe month because fuck Eorzea calander but it makes more sense for days in context.
Derplander Paladin is looking really fresh
moons is actually months. Also I just mentioned their mental age
Okay but you're still going to jail
days are referred to as suns or days
I mean the twins are legal now
No Endwalker moon gif yet :(
Annnnd here comes the heresy
Their time in the hyperbolic first shard
That PLD shot was awesome
Ye
Heres you EW moon
it would be amazing if on the moon we actually had increased jump height like YEET who needs a flying mount
Get the one with the PLD
Need that gif of the pld standing in front of the moon
imagine if they had spent the last two years working on moon jump physics lmao
No PLD still lol
ripperoni
??
?
What happened?
Nuked.
time just reset
chat scrub

woah that purge happened in a blink
lol
King crimson
Look what you've done. This is why we can't have nice things.
Toki wa tomare.
Woah
Did someone spoil something?
what happened?
no
Purge
I looked away
No idea
degeneracy happened
too much anime happened
Mods dropped an exterminatus
Someone found out yoshi Kate's identity
Who did the dumb fucking Morshu gif?
this is why anime was a mistake
You can't erase time. 😡
anyway, speaking of the twins. they have new outfits omg
It seems all the chat have twins purged lol
I just want more sage AF REEE
alisaie finally got a better outfit. i hated the fuck out of her shb outfit
I can't wait for that Sage outfit
I like em, I wish Alisaie stopped wearing dumb shorts though, shorts are lame
Better be wearable outfits for us 
SB outfit dumb
The beige furry part was good but I wasn't a fan of the red tunic sure
Wasnt shorts good for mobility? And rdm is very mobile.
OMG did you guys hear Ultimate is delayed
hey look, shorts are pretty damn flexible and easy to move in
Sure but they suck
Yeah
sorry
Well it's more like Ultimate was cancelled
SB outfit had a long coat
lol
If I have to come in here again because someone got uncontrollably horny over the thought of finally getting to fuck the twins, I'm going to hand out bans like Oprah gives out cars.
Alisae likes short shorts
They'll have to scale it up to lvl 90 now I guess
lol
Yep, and shocked raiders aren't more disappointed by it. They are pretty much chill
This now summarizes the entire text channel. 😳
......
Shes wearing shorts to help the boomers figure out who the girl is
because ultimate being delayed is whatever, that means there's two ultimates for 6.0
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I am facepalming so hard
i think they're still feeling over the moon about endwalker
at Yen's message and the one that followed it
yeah prob only 2 ultis for 6.0
I am pretty interested in the island sanctuary stuff
lmaooooooooo
could end up really cool
Hi Lance
Nah, Dragonsong is cool af
Tbh same.
Thordan and the dragon war
I hope they let us do more with Chocobo customization maybe.
The original Thordan
stardew valley ff14 edition 
Will the mechanic have spear blocking again UwU
Probably going to see Hresvelgar and Nidhogg's sister
You like short shorts
ah shit wrong reply
I guess that's good since I didn't like Omega raid much really
Original Thordan was a scrub
Island Sanctuary is just gonna be animal crossing. Instead of Tom Nook the crook, we get Rowena the crook. We'll be in debt 
wut
I hate that you're right
Rowena does anything and everything to keep you as a virtual slave.
🤔
"Elder Wyrms"
He had the help of 14 Knights
Island Sanctuary the 6.0 Relic farm
Gernolt: first time?
Cant wait for DYS AHN SOOOOHM IIIIIIN
isn't ultimate a one per expac thing normally
sounds plausible lmao
Final FarmVille
He ain't do shit on his own
two in 6.0 is bretty gud

what if it's midgardsommr's children - all of em
And he STILL died 
Nook as next raid boss.
Play Island Sanctuary to get 6.0 relics
To all of my children~
Nidhogg vs Thordan alone, winner is Nidhogg
Nidhogg vs Thordan and his knights, winner is Thordan
Okay so i'm gonna throw this out there regarding Islands. It might be interesting, but its gonna end up being a disaster most likely because something about it is gonna end up feeling mandatory. It'll have a crafting reagent or some shit that you cant get anywhere else that you need on the regular.
That'd be sick @untold gull
also it wasn't even a fair fight, Thordan and his 14 men literally fucking ambushed Ratata, as for Nidhogg at that point they already got super dragon powers from eating her eyes so that's hardly fair
and its gonna shift from 'interestin distraction' to 'mandatory chores'
Its not suppose to be a competitive thing so I doubt that.
like gardening for housing?
It doesn't seem like something they'd do for mandatory chores.
Doesn't sound mandatory even by your description
Well they did say there was unique crafting gathering stuff
Right up until it has the ingredients for raid food or raid pots
but I don't think it'll be important
I wouldnt put it past them
Airships and stuff do the same thing but it's not important
I don't think it'll be required
They said its not specifically for crafters/gatherers
Island Sanctuary be instanced housing /s
So how are yoy 8 times rejoined but not an old person?
no one complains "wah I have to do airships"
Yeah but not everyone has access to airships.
Nothing in thia game feels mandatory. It's a matter of your own will power.
most people don't
whereas everyone will have access to islands
Probably island sanctuary will be ocean fishing type of content. Cool if you do, okay if you dont
mayb
so by design you think they'll make things more mandatory in it
I’d love it if Island sanctuary was available to everyone regardless of progress, but it 100% won’t
So you cant really assume that islands loot table would resemble airships loot table
You gotta be able to just decide to not do something if you don't want to
What I want to know
but like hey, fuck airships 
Will the shoebill return?
I mean its a minion
More or less. Because they can, they might. They couldnt for the other examples given.
How is the warrior of light 8 times rejoined but not extremely old or even dead
So its there with us forever
I always felt something sinister from it.
Why would being rejoined 8 times make us old or dead?
Because we are OP
- smacked by fandaniel at 5.4 *
Like Zodiark
Because it took time for those 8 rejoinings
Fandaniel didn't smack us
I'm....
We are still mortal
Oh, well the WoL is eternal
are you joking or serious Yayo?
Just keeps getting reincarnated
Oh come now, we get smacked around all the time just get back up even stronger than ever xD
:DDD
Soul parts aren't equal to age
Remember, we are an Ascian
Fandaniel is like a gnat to us. He's not dumb enough to fight us.
:D
because I don't want to answer that but I will if I have to
7.0 WoL dies.
Ah yes, zenos moments
We aren't an Ascian
XD
Zenosmus
5.3 @viscid monolith
7 of those rejoinings are due to the calamities which had to have taken many years
That's not what that means
We still arent an Ascian. You're simply wrong.
thousands yes, but souls get reincarnated through time
....this is basic knowledge
What's your evidence that we are not? @unique verge
Maybe state that before being rude
Ascian was not the title of the 14
Everyone is a reincarnation of a fragment of someone that was alive pre sundering
Ascians are those that serve Zodiark
Well yeah, I mean the Ascian's people
then use that word
I'll serve Zodiark if it means I get moon housing. 😳
That's not the same thing
Bal is right
because Ascian and Ancient are not remotely the same thing
use the right word
Jeez you guys need to tone it down
Fight me
Deep breath in, hold it

Why should I fight you when Meara will do it for me
F
F
No me
Okay so reincarnation that means we were also Warriors of light from the past.
Well the soul is the same
We were some of them. Not all of them.
Not all of them tho
We are Azem. Azem is the OG WoL. Other people have been labelled WoL's due to the nature of their deeds. Its become more a title than a station.
We're just the ones that resembled Azem
Example: if you’re not a legacy player then you aren’t the WOL from 1.0
Whichever ones inherited Azem's soul
Well, no because you are your own person
but also yes
I swear fandaniel will come here and say "the fuck i almost make another calamity and you prefer discussing you are a ascian or not"
Everyone in the party in the ARR trailer was a WoL. But only one of them was Azem (if you were 1.0)
If that makes sense
But isn't the direction they're going that THE WoL was Azem. Who was unique from the other ancients
as the MSQ says, warrior of light and "hero" became synonymous over time
"and you prefer to fuck off and go make a farm on an island*"
Well... the term WoL means pretty much nothing
"You and me, WoL, we're pretty similar aren't we?"
Yes. It means absolutely nothing.
WoL spends the next 50 quests re-discovering themselves.
Farmer of Light
Now now, lets save it for 6.0
It doesnt even imply necessarily having the echo, though its usually associated.
Regardless of being the WoL we would still have Azem's (the original ancient's) soul
Which was sundered
So WoL means nothing. Your character is nothing special
In the context of the ancient conflict between Hyd and Zod a Warrior of Light is on of Hydaelyn's Champions
We are. @cinder badger
In the context of regular people a Warrior of Light is a hero
That's incorrect on a variety of levels.
WoL doesn't make us special though
Being Azem does
That's what Shadowbringers was telling us
Especially 5.3
Being a fragment of Azem has only helped us in a single instance
@unique verge the whole thing sounds incorrect it sounds like somebody's trying so hard to prevent plot holes that they are actually going to blow an entire crater.
I mean what plot holes?
Will be a good day for selling gear and leves item
What
They said it won't be
I didn't say the plot holes were there yet I said sounds like somebody's trying to invent new ways to explain any possible inconsistencies that within time they are going to slip up and then it's going to be a massive sinkhole rather than just something minor
There arent any inconsistencies though
Yeah, all this has been established before
We knew of the convocation or something similar to it and that the Ascian names were actually titles bestowed on them.
Shadowbringers just brought out the details
Yeah I'm not sure what you're on about Yayo and frankly if you somehow didn't get all this when you played the game before I'm not exactly sure you'd know what is a plothole and what isn't, or when someone is trying to come up with excuses for whatever anyway
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Azem was the original Warrior of Light, and was sundered - and took up that same thing post-sundering. It became common across all of the shards that the "heroes of each age" were referred to as WoL's eventually. But the dilution of the meaning of the title has no actual bearing on anything. We're uniquely powerful because we're Azem / We have the Echo.
Warror of Light has always had multiple meanings.
Some WoL's were Echo users who resemble us
Well... Azem was not the original, Azem steered away from both Hydaelyn and Zodiark
Some WoL's were literally just heroic normal people
He was independent
Will we ever see the og Azem tho
Azem was absolutely the first WoL
Where does it say this?
Well he wasn't the first to hold the seat presumably but he was the first WoL yeah as we know it
In Elidibus' memory.

