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barren karma
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fancy pirate hat too

cinder badger
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We're almost to level 100

gaunt star
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cinder badger
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We won't get to level 100 those stop at 99

heady shadow
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and got our first state quishy

blazing shuttle
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a lot of these look closer to their original sets imo which I think iis cool

cinder badger
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If you want to be a real Final Fantasy game you have to stop at 99

empty scaffold
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coral kite
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SAM af lookin cool

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heady shadow
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at that ppoint

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it'll be just ilvl

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heady shadow
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thats not a mmo

blazing shuttle
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but it is a main series ff game

heady shadow
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i dont remember if ffxi's cap was 75 or 99

cinder badger
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@gaunt star Final Fantasy 15 was a mistake though it was actually supposed to be Final Fantasy Versus XIII

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cinder badger
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It used to be 75 and then they upped it to 99 way later on

blazing shuttle
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moogle tribe would just rob you though

heady shadow
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ah okay

cinder badger
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Final Fantasy XI cap at 75 with a merit system after the max level

barren karma
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My guess is we make it to 100 then they squash it back down to 50 or something so their servers dont implode

oak pike
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Moogle tribe questline will probably be French Revolution

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woeful dagger
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i think we stop at 99 then sit at 99

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new content but linear gear progression

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west ledge
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And no new skill?

barren karma
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eeeech tho 99 it's like...I'd rather a smooth 100...99 feels like it'd be incomplete

west ledge
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Or we get skills by completing quests

blazing shuttle
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yeah it'd have to be back to skill quests

gaunt star
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?? Did someone forget to hide the extra 3d part on Alisae's hair in the trailer ??

heady shadow
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rip

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wait

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did her hair get longer?

blazing shuttle
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oopsie

gaunt star
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I'm no 3d genius but even I know not to mess stuff like this up

heady shadow
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timeskip

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timeskip bwteen 5.55 and 6.0

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callking it

blazing shuttle
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it's her back up tie that she keeps aetherially bound in case the first one comes off

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heady shadow
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when he dies in the questline

oak pike
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Lol the next job the black wolf

blazing shuttle
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he gets revived as the reaper trainer

oak pike
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Shooting fire Crosses sounds nice

barren karma
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hah nice catch

heady shadow
woeful dagger
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I hope Covid doesn't impact the quality of EW as a whole.

blazing shuttle
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Unfortunately it probably already has

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wet crown
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it impacted the ultimate

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barren karma
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honestly I wouldent mind if square delayed Endwalker untill it's super....I can wait it out....

wet crown
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they had to drop work for Endwalker

oak pike
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Oh yeah ultimate got delayed

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F fir ultimate raiders

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heady shadow
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it got delayed twice at that

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sad but what can you do

barren karma
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are those super ultiamate challege fights just for the fun of it or do they actually reward gear?

blazing shuttle
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they reward fancy weapons

elder moth
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Glowy weps and a title

oak pike
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For fun and flex pretty much

blazing shuttle
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and yeah title

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so glam/achievement

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they are very fun though imo

barren karma
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ahhh ok

heady shadow
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fun to watch too

barren karma
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I'm to afraid to try those.....I'm just a regular duty level gal

oak pike
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COVID pretty much delayed ultimate

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Since manpower have to reorganize

heady shadow
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everything is two months behind but they are assuring us they got back on track

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so 6.0 will be fine

barren karma
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I can wait

heady shadow
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I just wanna know who is writing it

woeful dagger
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i am

oak pike
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Lol I remember seeing some people said release ultimate first then 6.0

kind lark
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Just give us the sanctuary island

barren karma
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if I was writing it I'd make a Seymour redemption arc and we'd get married on the moon

blazing shuttle
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oh on that topic, did they say everything's going at same pace just 2 months later?

woeful dagger
blazing shuttle
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so would saying release might be september from july isn't crazy?

barren karma
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but but I want my happy pet island

woeful dagger
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Well it's Fall 2021 which would be Oct/Nov

oak pike
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You’re looking at September to November for window of release

heady shadow
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the other thing that could have been cut is the dungeon exploror

woeful dagger
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September is usually considered a summer month

heady shadow
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since it's just more glam shots and rp

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but

barren karma
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hell if they delay it for 2 or more months I'm fine with it

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I'd rather it be good thain rushed

regal lantern
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For Zenos learning a new job, remember his old teacher was some unique swordsman

heady shadow
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I personally think for a mid september

woeful dagger
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They have the precedence to delay it as well. Shadowlands was just delayed by Blizzard and it released to good results.

digital forge
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Shadowlands delay was rough

regal lantern
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I was hoping we get Arknight which uses unyielding blade technique (mentioned in Zenos side story) from FFT. It even fits maiming dps job but instead we got scythe

digital forge
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(and it didn't fix the major tuning issues the expansion has)

woeful dagger
regal lantern
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What’s wrong with a regular sword job

barren karma
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I am so hype for Sage tho

woeful dagger
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Ilsabard was under subjugation by the Empire but presumably in EW it might regain its independence

oak pike
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Wasn’t shadowland delayed for like a year

woeful dagger
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Or maybe in 5.55 who knows

regal lantern
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Ilsabard is the name of the continent

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Not a nation

digital forge
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no just a few months

cinder badger
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Isn't the EW theme in the trailer a remix of an older theme. It sounds familiar

woeful dagger
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Shadowlands was delayed from July to October

regal lantern
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Garlemald is part of Ilsabard

digital forge
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(like 5+)

heady shadow
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I mean if you cavn wait,

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then you would have no issue if they decided to delay 6.0 to next summer if they had to right?

digital forge
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i mean i'd be disappointed but what can i do with a mismanaged global pandemic constantly festering away

barren karma
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@heady shadow sure if it means it will be amazing quality I can wait it out

heady shadow
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yeah and it'll prob continue on for the next decade

digital forge
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shrug

cinder badger
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That music sounds familliar...

digital forge
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Dungeon Explorer strikes me more as a side-project to decompress the brain

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which is good

woeful dagger
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one thing FF14 doesn't have that other MMOs do is a robust beta-testing phase

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digital forge
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by Other MMOs are you talking about just WoW because afaik ESO and KOTOR doesn't have beta testing

barren karma
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he ya know one thing I'd love in Ff14 is a HD texture pack...I know it'll never happen but.......I can dream

oak pike
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digital forge
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aaaahhh

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yeah but is it really needed when the stuff comes out nearly bug-free as it is

heady shadow
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i mean, there is a big in seat of sacrifice

woeful dagger
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bug-free maybe not but sometimes things slip through that would have been caught by a beta test

digital forge
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true

woeful dagger
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like WAR swapping stances back in 3.0 costing half beast gauge

heady shadow
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too much shields then limit break can kill someone when He uses ultimate crossover

digital forge
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cough e10s naked elf

autumn heron
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what are the odds of Gaius dying for real this xpac

woeful dagger
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100%

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heady shadow
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the difference is

woeful dagger
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Gaius' ultimate goal is to die to redeem the Empire. Now that Varis is dead, so too will he imo

heady shadow
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how much the devs give a shit

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oak pike
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Pretty much

woeful dagger
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ff14 has devs that do listen is my point

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so a beta test for ff14 would help a lot

digital forge
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Mythic WoW raiding races are both "oh man this is exciting to see" and "the boss broke again because the devs hotfix the boss as the race is ongoing"

regal lantern
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You know what FFXIV needs? A region with Tera’s theme ❤️

heady shadow
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tera is dead

regal lantern
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But her music isn’t lol

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barren karma
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Ff14 could also benifit from...perhaps....one of those open bodysuit looking gear for men

digital forge
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lmao the mythic phase

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N'zoth mythic phase was hilarious

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oak pike
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Lol blizzard accidentally broke a boss lmao

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digital forge
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(it was just an extra add room with runaround mechanics)

oak pike
autumn heron
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thus far the only XIV launch aside from 1.X that was fucked was 4,0

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and 4.0 was only fucked cause of the server overload

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nothing you could actually do about that

digital forge
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4.0 was Raubahn EX

autumn heron
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ye

gaunt star
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The best pants in XIV are the pants that have the door knocker about your junk

digital forge
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5.0 launch was a genuine surprise

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everyone was memeing about it

oak pike
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!iglam Hellfire Breeches of Fending

lusty shadowBOT
digital forge
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and then the only thing was...one server went down for a few?

autumn heron
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3.0 launched very well too

oak pike
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There it goes that window

digital forge
woeful dagger
digital forge
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yup

oak pike
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Well at least there’s anything game breaking with each patches so far

woeful dagger
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Not as severe but Pipin was a roadblock too

oak pike
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I only been here since 5.2 release

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digital forge
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and then the "sitting before queueing for susano would leave you unable to play the game upon exiting"

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also the instance servers were hammered because RDM+SAM both had instances as well and everyone was unlocking those

gaunt star
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6.0 might have more hype than 5.0 because of the fact that we're going places that everyone has been wanting to go to since 4.0

woeful dagger
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oh don't forget the "That character already exists." bug as well if you dc'd while in Raubahn EX haha

potent hornet
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has anyone been able to find anything on what the Sage emblem will look like yet?

digital forge
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i got past raubahn first try

woeful dagger
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I had work on launch day and got past it when I got to him

digital forge
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like 1-2 weeks prior

viscid glade
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i do wonder if 6.0 can top 5.0

woeful dagger
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yah we dont even known the abrev yet, but most likely will be SGE

potent hornet
digital forge
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DNC/GNB logos were revealed on an Instagram post lol

gaunt star
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I'm gonna call it SAG

viscid glade
oak pike
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SGE

viscid glade
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SGE logo

gaunt star
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digital forge
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i've been here since uuuhhh 2.55

woeful dagger
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@digital forge Holy shit I JUST remembered, didn't they have to take down the Undersized Party server just to allow more people into the Duty Server for Raubahn? I remember something like that too

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Like they diverted some resources from one server into the Duty server

digital forge
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I...don't think so, I think all the servers were just hammered by it

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because there was also people queueing into PotD to level the new jobs

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so the general instance server got overloaded

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any type of instanced content was basically unplayable thanks to that

barren karma
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I still find the PotD servers can get jankey......do they have the retired hampsters running those?

digital forge
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They took that seriously which is why 5.0 was so beefed up

woeful dagger
digital forge
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The face yoshi-p made when exposed to Raubahn EX memes lol

viscid glade
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ive been here since 5.2

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im baby

digital forge
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welcome to the hype train

viscid glade
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yesssssssss

digital forge
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I genuinely don't think we're gonna get another Blufever leak, SE is extremely stringent about leaked info

woeful dagger
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there was an entire propaganda machine for like 2 hours that was pro-forming a line for Raubahn and anti-forming a line

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I've never seen anything like it in an MMO before lol

digital forge
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Release is great

viscid glade
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im booking a week off work for release

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i already book days off work for patch days

gaunt star
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The only leaks we'll have is when 5.5 comes out and stuff gets data mined and then when 5.55 comes out with even more data mining

digital forge
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yup

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tbh we were lucky we even got a zone reference, some concept art, and a model datamined

gaunt star
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digital forge
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dwarves

gaunt star
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oak pike
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No more French

digital forge
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yeah the general datamine is also kept hush hush because SE is either real lenient or extreme smackdown on datamining

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If it's for future content not released in the patch, expect to get a smackdown eventually

gaunt star
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Why didn't dwarves get voice acting, I feel robbed

woeful dagger
earnest sedge
woeful dagger
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SB had some quality memes

digital forge
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THE SEAS PART FOR WE ALONE

gaunt star
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HAHAHAHAHAH WAS A MEMORABLE DANCE INDEED

fathom flame
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What are the spiciest theories right now on the shirt's meaning?

digital forge
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IT'S LIKE ALL MY NAMEDAYS HAVE COME AT ONCE!

gaunt star
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SUCH FEROCITY

woeful dagger
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COCKY

gaunt star
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digital forge
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LIFE HAS MANY DOORS, ED-BOY (Neo Exdeath)

kind lark
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templar or reaper

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digital forge
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Shirogane (Savage)

woeful dagger
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oh god remember when Shirgane housing was launched too

digital forge
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all the UWU memeing

woeful dagger
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that was a flippin mess

digital forge
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Lahabread

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TIDE POD

gaunt star
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Corn on the UCOB

digital forge
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RED CHOCOBO MASSACRE

gaunt star
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digital forge
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The greatest obstacle: math

woeful dagger
digital forge
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just dodge ez

woeful dagger
digital forge
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Has Pazuzu spawned yet?

gaunt star
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Ok but for real tho, the math isnt too hard when you have to make yourself become a multiple of something

digital forge
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WASSHOI

oak pike
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Lahabrea really is gonna be welcome to the 12 rings of hell

digital forge
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Y'Shtola (The Burn)

gaunt star
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But when it comes to the prime numbers

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that's hell

woeful dagger
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im kinda sad Pazuzu memes died once we left for Pyros

gaunt star
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digital forge
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nah people still ask

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i'm gonna queue to bozja tonight and ask that

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remember HW memes

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digital forge
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SICKNESS MUST BE PURGED

woeful dagger
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HW memes were low quality compared to SB

gaunt star
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"Is castrum up yet?"

Idk maybe check the map???

digital forge
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okay but sloppy

woeful dagger
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were there even any good ShB memes

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Sloppy was the best meme to ever come from FF period

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so i'll give HW that

viscid glade
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shb has many memes

digital forge
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Smooth Rock

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2020-2020 never forget

gaunt star
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I AM RIGHTEOUSNESS

digital forge
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god we're really going to Pandemonium huh

kindred rampart
gaunt star
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I remember when Gamer Girl Vauthry was one of the best memes we had

woeful dagger
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there was this meme at least

gaunt star
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Ran'yeeet

woeful dagger
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Ran'jit kinda went out with a whimper

digital forge
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at least we got than'jit

woeful dagger
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Yeetus the Minfeetus

kindred rampart
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if his Scythe style ends up being the new job then he'll be eternal

oak pike
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La hee hee

gaunt star
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Thancred vs Ran'jit custody of Ryne ladder match memes

woeful dagger
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la HEE isn't a meme it's the best song FF has ever produced

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it's unironically my phone ringtone

digital forge
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garlemald being back is bringing back the best meme

gaunt star
woeful dagger
digital forge
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SUCH DEVASTATION

desert raven
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big fat tacos

rapid sand
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Was not my intention

tiny wind
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chicken tenders

woeful dagger
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AND THIS
IS TO GO
FURTHER BEYOND

digital forge
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nah

oak pike
severe brook
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lmao

digital forge
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but i'm 100% certain we're gonna get more Resonant shit

woeful dagger
digital forge
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remember that there's a shitton of Solus Clones too

woeful dagger
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WWE was something else back then

severe brook
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i mean there might not be all of those clones anymore

digital forge
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true

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or

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they're absorbed into the tower

severe brook
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since Fandaniel and Zenos have Kefka's Tower'd the Palace

woeful dagger
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we gotta deal with Black rose too at some point right

severe brook
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Black Rose is gone

gaunt star
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The amount of G'raha Tia players I've seen holy shit

woeful dagger
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is it??

digital forge
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yeah

severe brook
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it was destroyed between the efforts of Gaius, Estinien, and then Zenos

kindred rampart
kind lark
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Ran;jit reappears in EndWalker

digital forge
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gaius/estinen went ham on destroying the factories

woeful dagger
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i don't remember Zenos doing anything with it

severe brook
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Zenos destroyed it because it's no fun

woeful dagger
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well I know they destroyed factories, but I don't believe they said they destroyed the ability to make it

digital forge
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and zenos established himself and said "yeah fuck using that"

gaunt star
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Our teacher for the scythe job will be the source version of Ran'jit

digital forge
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since he's emperor now

severe brook
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someone else could make it again later i guess

digital forge
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ye its not like they couldn't

severe brook
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but it'd take time to develop large amounts of it

woeful dagger
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is Zenos really emperor if the Empire is no more?

severe brook
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i mean

digital forge
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inb4 we make it to put down fandaniel/zenos

severe brook
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🤷‍♂️

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basically his only act as Emperor was "No More Black Rose" lmao

woeful dagger
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it's more Zenos is just unkillable and so sits upon the Imperial Throne. but idk if he has actual Legions under his command?

oak pike
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Tbh I’m down for more ranjitt

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He got jobber hard

digital forge
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Zenos won the civil war

severe brook
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yeah i don't think any legions are listening to him for obvious reasons

digital forge
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but he's also in the camp of "I do not give a shit about anything but the WoL"

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because that's the only thing that makes him feel alive

severe brook
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i wouldn't say he won the civil war, so much as he just destroyed the thing the civil war was about

woeful dagger
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We know the 4th isn't under his command. And we know that Nerva's Legion is also not under his command

severe brook
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my guess is there's now a bunch of Legions running about desperate for purpose

digital forge
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meanwhile we got garbanth trying for his own nation

severe brook
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the VIIth is also planning to try to conquer Garlemald itself currently, though we'll stop that before 6.0

digital forge
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there's still the Garlean sympathizers from 4.3 that went back with alphi

woeful dagger
severe brook
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probably 6.X, not 6.0

woeful dagger
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He will consolidate the Imperial forces

kind lark
digital forge
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6.0 is gonna wrap up the Hyd/Zod arc but I do think that we're not gonna be free of Garlean Stuff

severe brook
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i think the empire's going to keep fracturing
into say
Nerva's Faction, who want the Good Old Empire back
Gabranth's Faction, who are making their own nation

digital forge
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just not as a major central antagonistic force

severe brook
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and whatever others there might be

digital forge
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But more "people who've been influenced by their ideals"

topaz dune
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Only 1 party of Imperial Sympathizers went back to Alphi, but it will be a giant pill hard to swallow for many imperials that their who nation, culture, etc was built upon an Ascian scheme

digital forge
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there's still the matter of what the towers are doing so Garlemald Primal Eventually?

severe brook
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The VIIth Legion is almost certainly going to collapse for good in 5.5

woeful dagger
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@digital forge I was under the impression the Pillars are to call the Moon to crash into the planet TBH

oak pike
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When I look at the moon I see something perfect - fandaniel or some shit

woeful dagger
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As a way to try and crack Zodiark's prison

kindred rampart
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more Garlean defectors
"Well shits kinda on fire so we had no choice but to go to you guys"

severe brook
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I don't think they're going to pull the moon down

woeful dagger
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Also if the Source blows up, don't all the Shards blow up?

severe brook
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we already did that once

woeful dagger
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Dalamud wasn't a true moon though right

severe brook
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but i think they'll be what blows the moon open

digital forge
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i'm expecting either a mass hallucination (ala 5.3 starshower) or a FF8 Lunar Cry

severe brook
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still the imagery is there

digital forge
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aka

severe brook
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but look at the Expansion Logo

digital forge
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monsters fall from the moon

severe brook
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the moon has a clean hole bored through to the middle

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that might be what the towers do

woeful dagger
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I wonder how many FF8 themes we get in EW

topaz dune
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Dalamud was the artificial moon satellite thing to imprison Bahamut who originally was from 1 of the mentioned continents the Allags trashed

digital forge
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i'm thinking that the garlemald tower is either like, second to last zone

kindred rampart
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I imagine the dragon being fought in the trailer is part of Lunar Bahamuts own brood that's likely spreading more chaos all around

digital forge
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or the 6.1 deep dungeon to flush out the remnants

kind lark
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The logo designers were just hungry

halcyon heart
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So taking bets now. Since 6.1 starts a new arc, who thinks at least one scion or more will die in 6.0?

severe brook
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our Lunar Cry is definitely going to be Zodiark's power erupting from the moon

severe brook
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i mean a Scion might even die in 5.5 with the name they gave it

digital forge
#

y'shtola stops escaping everything

heady shadow
#

hey.

digital forge
#

as long as they don't pull another final witness title lol

heady shadow
#

what would.... Magus' job be considered as?(chrono trigger)

halcyon heart
#

I feel like at least someone will sacrifice themselves to stop hydalyn and zodiark. That would make way for new character arcs for the new story.

severe brook
#

huh good point

digital forge
#

that's valid

oak pike
#

Thancred

kindred rampart
#

so likely that

severe brook
#

the wiki describes him as a Black Mage

heady shadow
#

ah okay

severe brook
#

but he has more physical stuff

#

than the usual black mage

halcyon heart
# oak pike Thancred

I don't think it will be thancred just cause they've already done so much with him that it would be to predictable.

kindred rampart
#

he's pretty closer to a XI Dark Knight in some ways

digital forge
#

hmm

#

i don't want to say alphi/alisaie

#

they feel too important

severe brook
#

see the thing is
Endwalker is shaping up to have a lot of FF4 references

digital forge
#

and bounce hilariously well off each other

severe brook
#

and well

#

in FF4

#

the twins...

digital forge
#

well at the same time

#

it doesn't have to be exact

#

look at eden

severe brook
#

mhm

#

i don't think it'll be literal

digital forge
#

which is literally FF8 reprised

severe brook
#

though my crack theory right now is Cagnazzo is going to kill and impersonate their dad, somehow

digital forge
#

the last tier is literally all of Ultimecia's forms

halcyon heart
#

I'm guessing G"raha or damn that one guys name that starts with the U. Can never spell his name right

severe brook
#

Urianger

digital forge
#

And we got Yuna Spells via last boss of DR

gaunt star
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

digital forge
#

so they're definitely more confident about not just doing another Omega "Bedtime Stories"

kindred rampart
#

unless they prop her up for 6.0 and complete her redemption arc

digital forge
#

god i hope we get more of her

halcyon heart
#

I'm more hyped for 6.1 than 6.0 I can't imagine them doing a "bigger" story arc when this story arc was already so good. Curious what they have planned

digital forge
#

she feels like she might be a good fit for bozja stuff considering Misija is a foil

halcyon heart
#

Also stardew valley/harvest moon hype!

digital forge
#

6.0 feels so weird

#

like

halcyon heart
#

I've never done end game content and like crafting and gathering lol

digital forge
#

can you imagine that a 10-year story is finally ending

heady shadow
#

yes

tiny wind
#

dude farming is very high on my hype list

digital forge
#

its just weird that the constant of "okay the next patch is dealing with this but then we're gonna go here and there"

#

and then its just

#

6.0 is the end of the arc

#

we got 3 more patches

#

5.5/5.55/6.0

halcyon heart
#

I mean obviously in 6.1 they are going to have to rebuild. Based on the trailer it looks like most of the world is on fire.

digital forge
#

like there's gonna be more, but damn

crude ocean
#

Are there any good summaries from the 5.5 live letter? I caught the Endwalker talk but missed the one a few hours later

digital forge
#

ultimate delayed until 6.1

halcyon heart
#

Work to game has a decent summary

#

On youtube

robust atlas
#

Meoni, MrHappy, Work to Game

cinder badger
#

I look at that Final Cut of the warrior of light in the trailer after the cape flip and think:

"Screweth yon rules, I have chivalry!"

robust atlas
#

Take your pick

halcyon heart
#

I'm really hoping it isn't just Ishgard housing in 6.1. I really want a moonbase house.

digital forge
#

it's gonna be ishgard only

robust atlas
#

Moon housing in 8.0

cinder badger
#

He doesn't need away to the Moon he just is on the moon

digital forge
#

and probably another plot expansion on other areas

kindred rampart
digital forge
#

nah

#

6.1 release is housing

gaunt star
#

Ultimate delayed canceled

digital forge
#

6.11 is ultimate

cinder badger
#

No explanation needed he just is

#

SCREWETH YON RULES I HAVE CHIVALRY

heady shadow
#

the only thing weird about 6.0 being the end is,

#

no more ascians to blame

digital forge
#

6.0 ends

#

we're all dead

#

and in the distance

#

3.5 months later

#

"6.1: Please look forward to it"

robust atlas
#

6.0 ends with Gaius blowing up the Scions again

cinder badger
#

Now we can blame it on Sharlayan

robust atlas
#

6.1 is End of an Era 2: Electric Boogaloo

digital forge
#

nah 6.1 is gonna drop and people are gonna be mad its gonna be like every x.1 patch

#

picking up the pieces, tying off threads, and checking up on everyone while starting up the patch mini-arc

#

and then get derided because "it's not capitalizing on what x.0 did and continuing on the hype train"

robust atlas
#

Zenos dies again,

heady shadow
#

thats their own fault

digital forge
#

people do it like clockwork every 2 years

#

screenshot above and check up 2 weeks after 6.1 drops

gaunt star
#

Guys, Yoshi spoke to me in my dreams last night. shockedhildy

heady shadow
#

I'll just be ignoring people who are ignoring that 6.0 is the end.

gaunt star
#

Next melee DPS will have a sickle. happyhildy

robust atlas
#

You should get that checked out

kindred rampart
#

Scions: WoL needs a vacation
WoL: . . .and as soon as I have a moment to myself something bad is gonna hap-

digital forge
#

yeah i wonder where we're going for Lahabrea

#

like my mind says "Ascian Homeland/Place of Rest(?)"

barren karma
#

I woulden't mind if the expansion after this one was a break....ya knwo no world ending stuff just little slice of life adventures.

digital forge
#

since we've seen that in the 2.x questline and 5.5 Banishment during Seat of Sacrifice

severe brook
barren karma
#

like perhaps we go on a pirate adventure or coach Alphi thru his frist date.....stuff like that hehe

#

Ohh yes I'd play an entire hildi expansion ❤️

severe brook
#

and that after all this time the creations left to rot are going to start breaking out

#

and then we'll need to deal with that, leading us to discover other stuff

digital forge
#

oh yeah because he's an esteemed researcher

#

going from the amaurot 80 dungeon

severe brook
#

well he was

digital forge
#

good idea, i didn't think of that

oak pike
#

Lahabread is smart just crazy

severe brook
#

but had kind of gone off the deep end by the time we met him

#

so

oak pike
#

So it loops with him being stupid

severe brook
#

i think pandaemonium is going to have some pretty warped things inside

digital forge
#

ye, they retcon explained him with bodysnatching wearing on his mind

kindred rampart
#

fannydanny breaking all his packed away concepts out as a backup plan before his demise

digital forge
#

actually i dunno if that's a retcon or just context

gaunt star
#

Fandango x Lahabread

severe brook
#

it's context working as a soft retcon

digital forge
#

ye that's fine

severe brook
#

this also likely gives them a chance to develop Lahabrea more compared to the other Unsundered

oak pike
severe brook
#

see, my personal guess is that a piece of his soul is possessing one of the constructs within

digital forge
#

XIV is the next homestuck: working on the fly, pulling from threads deliberately left behind to create cohesion, but having set story points

severe brook
#

like what happened with Proto-Phoenix

#

XIV is much better put together than homestuck

digital forge
#

true that lol

severe brook
#

i trust CB3 to actually give an ending

digital forge
#

its a valid writing method tho

spiral wagon
#

and instead of a smut sword we have a smut world

digital forge
#

and so far its working

barren karma
#

After Endwalker the WOL is out of a job so we have to work in a Moogle themed Cafe in Limsa with Zenos and the scions.

severe brook
#

you want to know my absurd guess

gaunt star
#

Next melee DPS uses a smut sword. shockedhildy

severe brook
#

i think they'll reveal Lahabrea dying after being in an Ascian Prime

#

will split his soul in two

digital forge
#

well

#

considering

severe brook
#

so we have 'emperor of heaven' lahabrea and 'emperor of hell' lahabrea

kindred rampart
#

WoL: So what was the reason for all of this?
Lahabrea: It's simple really. I wanted a ShB style death!

digital forge
#

pandemonium is where Mateus also usually resides

severe brook
#

because this is almost certainly building up to an FF2 reference

#

that, and Mateus is Lahabrea's counterpart in FF12

digital forge
#

ye

#

so like

barren karma
#

dear squaresoft....we have trust dutys now....can we have non-cannon trust weddings?

digital forge
#

FF2, maybe FF9, we'll 100% get a FF8 GF, its also a FF9/FF12/FF13 enemy

gaunt star
#

Yes.

#

6.0 introduces NPC marriages.

digital forge
#

and Type-0 dungeon

gaunt star
#

One per player per server.

acoustic sail
gaunt star
#

Must log in within 45 days and click NPC or get divorced.

kindred rampart
digital forge
#

Maybe the tower in Garlemald is Pandemonium?

#

I didn't consider that

severe brook
digital forge
#

it'd fit with FF2 rising out and destroying the castle

severe brook
#

i don't think the Tower itself is Pandaemonium

#

but Pandaemonium might be below it

#

or something

#

we'll have to wait and see

digital forge
#

true

#

The 24-man bets are "what the fuck was Midgardsomr defending under Silvertear Lake" 100%

kindred rampart
#

I think Pandemonium will be the lore bomb for the underworld threads

digital forge
#

Different from the Void?

severe brook
#

the Underworld is what the Ancients called the Aetherial Sea

#

so yeah

digital forge
#

oh hmm

severe brook
#

personally
i'm leaning towards at least the beginning of Pandaemonium being Lahabrea's laboratory

#

because the Underworld was more Emet-Selch's thing

glacial turret
#

Watch the new job be a rock star using electric guitars to cast electric melee attacks

severe brook
#

Nevan intensifies

gaunt star
#

The Bon Jovi class.

#

I can see it now.

digital forge
#

just to remind myself

#

venat was fandaniel, right

severe brook
#

I mean Through His Eyes is about Lahabrea sending for Emet-Selch to deal with an Underworld issue that's affecting his work

#

no

digital forge
#

hmm

severe brook
#

Venat was not part of the Convocation

#

she was another high-ranking Ancient

glacial turret
#

Tbh after sage’s weapon i want another weird or unconventional weapon, not another job or just a boring scythe

severe brook
#

but she wasn't one of them

digital forge
#

there's still that, then? I forget where Venat went after Fandaniel came in

severe brook
#

Venat's still in Hydaelyn

digital forge
#

Or I think I'm mixing up cutscenes

severe brook
#

she never ejected herself after becoming her Heart

tardy elm
#

Who is FanDuel?

digital forge
#

aaaahhh

severe brook
#

Grim Fandango

rain onyx
#

Fanta Daniel

cinder badger
#

@glacial turret what about a rocket powered Scythe?

severe brook
glacial turret
#

Im down for that just not a boring scythe

digital forge
#

considering FF

tardy elm
#

I want a glowing scythe

severe brook
#

Reaper would be a new Job with a more straightforward weapon
Sage would be an old Job with a very new and intricate weapon

digital forge
#

it'll look boring but the skills will be Hype Shit

severe brook
#

i don't think it'l look boring

digital forge
#

true

cinder badger
#

Maybe it't a guitar shaped like a battle axe

severe brook
#

my guess is Reaper would have a mix of realistic and fantasy scythe wielding

glacial turret
#

What if its a shotgun melee job tbh

tardy elm
#

Double Guitar

digital forge
#

Reaper doing Millia Rage style twirls

glacial turret
#

Ala reaper from overwatch

digital forge
#

Testament memes intensify

severe brook
#

so you switch between heavy, sweeping two-handed strokes
and then elegant one-handed twirls and spins

#

best gif i got on short notice

#

of an example

gaunt star
#

Musketeer class but pistol whips.

digital forge
#

bruh if they did

#

new off-main

tardy elm
#

Edda fights with a scythe 💡

digital forge
#

I love monk too much to switch

severe brook
#

Botanist Confirmed?

unborn lantern
#

Zodiark will be 69-man raid

glacial turret
#

Now i want a double shotgun melee class smh

unborn lantern
gaunt star
#

BTN but with a bigger sickle.

tardy elm
#

I want a Yotsuyu cigarette holder

glacial turret
#

A new class dominatrix fights with whips and her off gcd is a step with a high heel

digital forge
#

what's the over-under on Answers coming up on the last part of 6.0

#

leitmotifs, baybee

gaunt star
#

AOE whip that buffs party with speed boost.

#

Bye Peloton.

tardy elm
#

Isn’t Gaia a dominatrrix?

glacial turret
#

Dancer shouldve been whip

digital forge
#

genuinely expecting a final mega-10+ minute song that references all the past expansion songs

rain onyx
#

No???

glacial turret
#

Hi wynne

rain onyx
#

Literally nothing about Gaia points to dominatrix.

tardy elm
#

Gaia’a heels are ridiculous ✌️

rain onyx
#

She’s a broody teenager

severe brook
#

we kind of had our Leitmotif Recap moment in 5.3

#

with Elidibus' Magical History Tour

tardy elm
#

Where does it say she’s a teenager? I thought Kozakura was a teenager and her bio says she’s 25

gaunt star
#

25 is teenager in anime years.

rain onyx
#

She’s right around Ryne’s age.

digital forge
#

true

tardy elm
#

Everyone looks like they’re supermodels in their 20s

severe brook
tardy elm
#

Lol

gaunt star
#

6.0 and the moon falls, causing calamity 2.

#

FFXIV re-released with updated graphics 6.1+ but now it's 2D and anime.

cinder badger
#

Hythlodaeus

sterile jacinth
#

Did you guys know that scythes are the only melee weapon that aren't on a specific job yet?

cinder badger
#

Whips

tardy elm
#

Eddy’s scythe, but costs $20

tiny wind
#

nun chuks

tardy elm
#

Edda

gaunt star
#

Ninja 2.

cinder badger
#

So anyway

#

Hythlodaeus

#

Is Zenos.

sterile jacinth
#

Butter knife.

#

Tonfas.

cinder badger
#

Because Hythlodaeus calls you his "New Old Friend"

kindred rampart
#

Monk has a few Tonfa styled models

cinder badger
#

FRIENDWALKER

sterile jacinth
#

EW

gaunt star
#

Moonwalker.

#

6.0 just leads up to a new emote.

tardy elm
#

Skywalker

cinder badger
#

Hythlodaeus is clearly importanr to this story

kindred rampart
#

BENDWALKER

#

^also voiced Wakka

severe brook
#

the "New Old Friend" thing is because he's only met you for the first time, but 'knew' you as Azem before

#

though not really because you're not really Azem and he's not really Hythlodaeus

cinder badger
#

But still you were his FRIEND

severe brook
#

G'raha's also called you friend

cinder badger
#

Just like you are Zenos' FRIEND

heady shadow
#

remember also he was created my emet so he could be also mirrowing that

cinder badger
#

No one cares about G'raha

heady shadow
#

since emet was a friend

severe brook
cinder badger
#

Hythlodaeus

kindred rampart
#

Zenos: It's good to see you my. . .FRIENEMY! Fanny may rant and rave but that's one thing I picked up from it that just seems. . .suitable.

cinder badger
#

Hythlodaeus however was quite aware of what he was.

#

He clearly had perception and power greater than the others, he apparently was first pick for Emet-Selch but turned it down

gusty quest
#

Hythlodaeus is a bro

cinder badger
#

How much more powerful was Azem than the other members of the convocation? Maybe Hythlodaeus was more a rival

wet crown
#

Never revealed

severe brook
#

i don't know if Azem was inherently more powerful

#

but they were probably more skilled in combat

#

in terms of being the one who actually knew how to fight

#

i mean from the implication, Lahabrea wasn't even that good at fighting in Ancient times

#

Emet-Selch was, Azem was, Elidibus wasn't

#

and we don't know about the rest

#

so i think it'd just depend on personal preference and whatever their office was

cinder badger
#

But still Hythlodaeus was clearly something unique.

wet crown
#

they didn't have much reason to fight in the first place

#

Hythlodaeus's sight was better than Hades's

#

That's all we know

cinder badger
#

So he could either be Zenos or Fandango (a sundered Hythlodaeus)

wet crown
#

He could also not be anyone

severe brook
gaunt star
#

GUYS.

#

Next melee DPS is gundam. haha

cinder badger
#

I refuse to believe that they would just leave him hanging there as a minor plot device if he was perceptive enough to see past Emet-Selchs illusion and notice the WoL AND Ardbert standing next to them.

#

Not even Emet-selch took notice of Ardbert

brisk quail
#

Just the whole fucking GWarrior

severe brook
#

the plot device of him is showing that Creations can vary with the slightest uncontrolled thought

#

which is probably going to come up with Zodiark

brisk quail
#

Sound starts.
They go a lil crazy.
They think the world is ending and monstrous creatures are coming to end them.

Thought magic goes: okay then. Monster/apocalypse time

kind lark
#

The planet had a disease

brisk quail
#

Then it just snowballs

cinder badger
#

Hythlodaeus as a shade saw something that Emet-Selch couldn't. There's a clear significance in that

severe brook
#

the Sound also has the apparent fact that it removed Creation Magic's restriction

#

because normally you don't make something with it unless you actually want to

#

whereas the Sound just makes it happen anyway

brisk quail
#

Mmhn

patent axle
#

Are y'all hyped by the people who never healed who will pick up sage and be shit ?

severe brook
#

lmao

#

"This is a Ranged DPS right it has guns"

odd yoke
#

You mean like 95% of other healers?

patent axle
#

Can't wait to fail dungeons because the healer can't keep me alivee

brisk quail
#

Are you hyped that PLD might finally get a cool ability set/rework in 6.0?

cinder badger
#

@brisk quail

brisk quail
#

Give me better dot

odd yoke
#

Yes, royal authority 2

patent axle
cinder badger
#

Allen already has a really good moveset

brisk quail
#

Give me better AoE

patent axle
#

I'm a pld main after all

brisk quail
#

Same

kind lark
#

If it were a fact or creating anything via, they could've just made something to counteract the Armageddon

cinder badger
#

It took them this long to get Paladin a personality don't screw it up

brisk quail
#

Give me upgraded Goring Blade

open verge
#

Paladin is lame

patent axle
#

Also

open verge
cinder badger
#

@open verge you're lame

open verge
patent axle
open verge
cinder badger
#

Leave my Paladin alone you nay Sayers

patent axle
#

I hope we'll get Bravehart and Shield of light glam at some point

gaunt star
#

6.0 PLD gets AOE clemency.

brisk quail
cinder badger
#

SCREW THE RULES I HAVE CHIVALRY

gaunt star
#

HG is 60 seconds to make up for all the new Sage players.

brisk quail
#

And Shelltron 2

odd yoke
#

They'll get Passage 2: its a circle now

gaunt star
patent axle
#

healer stands in bad, healer dies

#

me :

#

it's my time to shine

orchid plinth
#

There will be arise on lv 90, problem is savage is the new normal

cinder badger
#

@patent axle Red Mage uses verraise first

gaunt star
patent axle
cinder badger
#

And you think Paladin will get a raise before level 90

#

That's cute

patent axle
#

read before saying dumb shit

cinder badger
#

Who cares about clemency

#

All it does is eat up your DPS time

gaunt star
#

Clemency is how you assert dominance amongst your healers.

patent axle
#

Nah, I already had healers who stood in bad during sirensong bosses

cinder badger
#

Keep spamming Holy Spirit you'll do fine

patent axle
#

And who died

kind lark
#

It hurts healers feelings

patent axle
#

Clemency saved the runs

strange wing
#

But at what cost?

cinder badger
#

At the cost of your DPS fool

patent axle
#

Nah

#

I'm okay with losing DPS if it means I can last longer during the boss

gaunt star
#

I've saved many runs when our healers died and the boss was at 10%

patent axle
#

^

brisk quail
#

Shelltron 2.
Reduces damage by 20%, increases block rate to 100%. Lasts for 10 seconds.

Renewed Oath (Passive): when blocking gain 5 oath gauge. When reducing damage taken by a party member with Cover, Passage of Arms, Divine Veil or Intervention, increase oath gauge by 5 per instance. (Only once per party member, per abity).

Holy Oath (OGCD): Deals a ranged magical attack with a potency of 400. Costs 25 oath to execute.
Additonal Effect: Regen 500 MP
Additonal Effect: Reduce Requicast cooldown by 2 seconds

patent axle
#

Also at 40%

#

With a good use of clemency and your CDs, you can live so long without a healer

cinder badger
#

You won't say that once they start adding the DPS gauges and people see you at the bottom of the list

gaunt star
#

Exactly, if the healers are dead and you have a smn who's swiftcast isnt off cooldown you can keep them alive with clemency until they can bring a healer back

patent axle
#

Especially when you hit the shield bash at the right moment

gaunt star
#

Idc if I'm at the bottom, we cleared the fight

cinder badger
#

They don't care about surviving they care about your DPS numbers don't you know that it's a MMO 101

patent axle
gaunt star
#

They wont ever add dps gauges, they said this multiple times

patent axle
#

Last time someone said I had low DPS I reported them for usage of external tools

strange wing
#

I remember a risky run where it was me(Sam), a paladin and a Ninja against a 20% Chaos. Maybe I should get a paladin

heady shadow
patent axle
#

Use your tools if you want but don't come bother me with it

strange wing
#

Wait a sec

#

Do those boots have spurs?

gaunt star
#

Oh no, our run took 2 minutes longer the horror

gaunt star
tropic flint
#

That makes the joke even funnier

patent axle
#

My job is to stay alive and keep aggro while dealing damages

heady shadow
#

oih god

#

wol is woody

#

shit

tropic flint
#

Kh raid confirmed

#

: P

gaunt star
#

Next melee DPS just uses a giant key.

patent axle
#

If the healer dies I'll put the "dealing damage" to the side and focus on not dying while keeping aggro

#

Use clemency until your health is full, deal damage, hit cds when necessary

#

drink potions

#

repeat

cinder badger
#

@gaunt star you mean like a key... sword?

gaunt star
#

Ok you got me.

#

I mean Sora. haha

open verge
#

Ok

#

Question

#

Where do you think the glow on the sage relics will be

heady shadow
#

....

#

do you really want disney to get money out of ffxiv?

gaunt star
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

open verge
#

2think that’s like 6 glows on a weapon

#

Fucking blinding

gaunt star
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

open verge
gaunt star
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

heady shadow
#

it has the music

#

so....

gaunt star
#

What if they added sage zurvan weps, that's like....alot of orbs

gaunt star
#

2 orbs per weapon

open verge
#

I’m just saying weapon effects will be insane on sage

heady shadow
open verge
#

Weapon design on sage could be super sick or very lame

heady shadow
#

they'll just try to own rights to it

open verge
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Like dancer haha

gaunt star
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Actually no.

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Disney will turn FFXIV into ToonTown Online 2.

gaunt star
heady shadow
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yeah no they can go fuck themselves

patent axle
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Disney only owning KH characters and universe is enough

heady shadow
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they can make their own damn mmo

patent axle
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they don't need to put their hands near core FF

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their nasty hands

strange wing
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Sage Weapon Relics will be like christmas lights

gaunt star
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WHM 6.0 relic is just them becoming a tree.

woven escarp
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lost allagan nouliths are probably going to be an extremely popular glamour

cinder badger
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Wait so Disney owns cloud and Squall and yuffie and aerith?

heady shadow
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they can make their own mmo but they might not have the money for it, with the pandemic, star wars sucking, etc

cinder badger
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Because those four Kingdom Hearts characters in The Kingdom Hearts universe

heady shadow
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no they dont

patent axle
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Only KH characteers on universe

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Those stay FF characters

heady shadow
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KH originals only

patent axle
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Disney owns Sora and shit like that

cinder badger
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I think Square knows what it's doing

woven escarp
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star wars will always suck as long as disney doesn't understand what makes star wars great, but that's an #not-ffxiv-discussion discussion

cinder badger
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@woven escarp the Mandalorian

heady shadow
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it should be obvious they dont care enough lol

woven escarp
heady shadow
cinder badger
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But you just said Star Wars will always suck but the Mandalorian is just fine

woven escarp
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but again, I don't want to crowd this channel with star wars shit when there's a perfectly good holoen simping session to interrupt in #not-ffxiv-discussion

heady shadow
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hmm lets take this to the Bar(offtopic)

cinder badger
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This can be relevant we're going to the moon what other places in space can we go to

woven escarp
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I mean, you're welcome to plead that case when cleave comes for you

cinder badger
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I still say we go to omega's Homeworld

wet crown
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mexico

woven escarp
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but know that the axe has no mercy

wet crown
heady shadow
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ye, no mercy even on those it';s not suppoed to hit

wet crown
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The one that's light years away?

heady shadow
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no thats dragonstar

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we dont know omega's world

wet crown
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The one where the journey almost killed omega and midgardsormr?

cinder badger
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Not even Omega knows his own home world

wet crown
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that homewolrd?

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you want the Scions to die in space on the way there?

cinder badger
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Yeah but we're the warrior of light we're apparently invincible

heady shadow
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apparently

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Yoshi said theres oxygen there

wet crown
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on the moon

heady shadow
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yes

cinder badger
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How does the moon have oxygen

heady shadow
wet crown
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because fuck it

cinder badger
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SCREWETH YON RULES I HAVE CHIVALRY

gaunt star
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Magitek, son.

heady shadow
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but ye yoshi said theres oxygen there

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so for real

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it';s fucking haunted

cinder badger
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Yoshida clearly doesn't know how space works

gaunt star
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Can't wait to go hunt for aether currents on the moon. haha

cinder badger
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You need an atmosphere in order to have oxygen Moon typically don't have atmospheres

heady shadow
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clearly people dont know how fantasy works

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for all you know allag did shit up there

cinder badger
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Squall and rinoa almost died from lack of oxygen in space

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On a fantasy game

half phoenix
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The moon DOES have an atmosphere though

cinder badger
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A Final Fantasy game

heady shadow
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look

acoustic sail
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Is there any way to keep the current relic appearance before they take it away

heady shadow
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if you want to argue the particulars of the moon

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argue with Koji fox

acoustic sail
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Like the one before 5.45

woven escarp
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do they still give you all the glamour tiers when you complete a relic?

heady shadow
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btw I should mention we can breath under water

cinder badger
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Did somebody say Koji Fox?

heady shadow
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everyone else in final fantasy games drowns

half phoenix
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Also in 14, just release some wind aether from some crystals, boom breathable air on the moon

oak pike
woven escarp
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yeah, that's what I meant

cinder badger
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There needs to be more memes with this face

woven escarp
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in ARR you had to complete the whole thing to get the previous tiers

oak pike
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oops wrong person to reply to lol

heady shadow
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dude,

woven escarp
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I never finished the other relics lmao

heady shadow
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he made that face so many times

rain onyx
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Only ARR wants the whole thing done

woven escarp
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fuck all that grinding for a weapon that's only as good as a tome weapon for about 2 weeks before the next expac

rain onyx
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HW wants i230 done to start buying replicas, SB wants you to get the Pagos Weapon, and SHB wants the glowy weapon at i500

patent axle
woven escarp
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sure, but it's faster to do the weekly raid drop for a tome weapon

heady shadow
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Hmmm what did you need to get replica relics in ffxi?

patent axle
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Plus for the next expan your relic will be relevant until the level 83 dungeon or shit like that

woven escarp
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than to grind 90000 years for all the tomes and ancillary junk you need to upgrade a weapon

patent axle
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Plus the tome weapon will be avaible for poetics during the next expan

woven escarp
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you need what, 36k poetics to finish a stormblood relic?

patent axle
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so it's the same deal

acoustic sail
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is yoshi p married

woven escarp
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to FFXIV haha

heady shadow
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last i knew yes

tardy elm
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yes

patent axle
tardy elm
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EW

patent axle
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yoship hot

heady shadow
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he be getting old though

regal fiber
heady shadow
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we all be old now

cinder badger
patent axle
heady shadow
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dont do it

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people will get upset

cinder badger
wet mountain
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Why are people saying sage will replace scholar scholar is my main healer

cinder badger
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Scholars awesome

odd yoke
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Its a barrier healer

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Like scholar

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So its the same type of healer

heady shadow
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its the same as people saying dnc replaces brd

odd yoke
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Jusy depends how good at its job and what it brings aside from shields

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Plus its new and flashy

cinder badger
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It will replace scholar for about 3 days

odd yoke
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And has pew pew

wet crown
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start of a new expansion
AST will be hot garbage for 2 main patches and dominate the rest

half phoenix
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And this is why i was saying they can’t add a new healer. There was nothing NEW for one to do mechanically in fights

cinder badger
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They only did this because people cried in shadowbringers that dancer wasn't the Healer

odd yoke
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And they wanted to rebalance healers

cinder badger
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Everybody could have sworn that the devs made some sort of guarantee that shadowbringers was going to have a Healer cuz they hadn't had one since HW

half phoenix
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And 99%+ of Sage players will just be existing healers

next quarry
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people are worrying that SGE will make SCH obsolete, or the other way around

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but I dont think its gonna be like that

half phoenix
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It will

patent axle
cinder badger
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99% of sage Healers will be DPS Mains that think Sage is just a DPS that gets them insta queues

heady shadow
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but now people be pissed their no caster

patent axle
cinder badger
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Whenever I pick up a Healer I expect to heal people I don't want the responsibility of having to pump out damage as well but.

brisk quail
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Healer is DPS with OGCD heals when nessecary

half phoenix
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Previously the healers were designed the way they were on purpose; a pure healer and barrier healer, ideally you take one of both. Then one that can toggle between either to fill in the missing role. Not the toggle is just a pure healer, and the new one is just a barrier healer, meaning which ever one is the more useful of each will be the ones more used

next quarry
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I just hope that healers get more unique damage spells in EW

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last I checked, most people dont really care for ideal compositions

cinder badger
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I pray for a day where healers can just do their job and heal people

next quarry
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they just wanna have fun

half phoenix
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Nope, healers will always have to DPS

cinder badger
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@half phoenix and that is why modern-day MMO's suck

brisk quail
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So it's either...

  1. SCH Crit buff and their free healing with fairy is better than SGE

Or

  1. SGE blows SCH outts the water and falls into obscurity
next quarry
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DPS has been a part of healers in XIV since the start

wet mountain
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Yeah why no casting dps :( another meele dps

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Surprised

next quarry
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we got a melee and casting dps in SB

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so both were missing out on an expac

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another maiming job is great too

half phoenix
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“Modern mmos suck” what you want literal non-stop damage so you’re always healing???

cinder badger
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Yeah but now there's no balance

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We only have three Caster DPS and 3 ranged DPS

half phoenix
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And?

cinder badger
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4 tanks 4 healers 5 melee dps 3 ranged dps 3 caster dps