#retired-patch-6-3-discussion

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gaunt star
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it fits the vibes perfectly in my opinion

woeful dagger
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the teaser music is what you'd expect from a teaser. a taste of what's to come and making you want more.

viscid monolith
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Ya that's fair. But film schools tend to teach people to just be conventional instead of trying different things.

gaunt star
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which is why i dont want it to be overshadowed by shb-esque singing

regal lantern
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That music makes you feel melancholic?Well probably different understandings

primal sundial
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the trailer music will 100% play during the last bossfight

eager fox
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Hi Lance

tardy ingot
gaunt star
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it doesnt make me feel melancholic

viscid monolith
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Hence you comment about taste and Kay laughing at it

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Hi Teddy

woeful dagger
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there's two conflicting feelings though: for us, the player, the music being sad or melancholy makes sense because it's the end of the journey. but for the characters within the story the music should be hype because it's the end of their age-long battle against evil.

gaunt star
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it makes me feel like its gonna be an epic end to the series

regal lantern
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Imagine going to school and complaining about “taste in music”

primal sundial
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imagine complaining about "taste" in general

coral kite
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What does it mean

autumn heron
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that sentence doesnt make sense

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but okayy

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did you not go to school?

next quarry
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people have opinions :D

primal sundial
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OT: Funny Daniel walks like an old man in the trailer

forest magnet
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the emet walk

gaunt star
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🤨

next marsh
gaunt star
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the bit where the airship is crashing is the best part of the music imo LOGGERS

viscid monolith
regal lantern
autumn heron
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then I guess you just have bad taste

brisk quail
regal lantern
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Music isn’t your thing, clearly

teal geyser
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I like how there was just one aurora class airship in the sky as well

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I like to lowkey imagine that after all the shit that happened that's all the army Nerva had

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just one ship

coral kite
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The Virgin "Your opinion" vs. The Chad "My opinion"

autumn heron
teal geyser
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fight, fight, fight, fight

primal sundial
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adjusts glasses
akshually

crystal sentinel
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Gib popcorn emote

woeful dagger
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all i'm saying is i'm glad Alisaie is still a bad bitch in the teaser.

primal sundial
woeful dagger
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and heck Alphinaud for thinking she needs his healing

teal geyser
vagrant sinew
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honestly

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I'm glad as well

autumn heron
vagrant sinew
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red mage represent

autumn heron
woeful dagger
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RDM fits her personality so well

teal geyser
woeful dagger
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Finesse, style, but brute force when needed.

vagrant sinew
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also imagine not using verflare every moment you can

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the COOLER finisher

urban turret
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vague thoughts:
Make Anima, my child, relavent if you're gonna do a character assassination cowards
You know in Kugane the 2 main consulates are Thanavirian and Garlean.....

kind lark
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OUR dumbo

woeful dagger
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She was casting Scorch right?

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Or like, a new, long-cast Scorch

coral kite
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Verholy

vagrant sinew
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she was using verholy

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and was about to use scorch

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but was interrupted

coral kite
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Verholy looks so much more sick in that animation than in game tho haha

woeful dagger
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But that Scorch had a pretty long cast time it seemed skyecvThink

vagrant sinew
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it really does lmao

tropic frigate
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getting interrupted for an insta cast skill

viscid monolith
woeful dagger
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Lot of RDM friends seem to think it's a teaser for a new rank of Scorch

coral kite
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Why

vagrant sinew
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god imagine that

autumn heron
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damn

primal sundial
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Fire 3 looks way better in the ARR trailer than in game

vagrant sinew
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scorch just becomes scorch 2

autumn heron
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i thought that would make Cal angry

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not agree with me

coral kite
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scorch 2 would be dope tho

autumn heron
woeful dagger
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tbh all Jobs except maybe WAR and SCH had extreme hotbar bloat rn so I think if they add new abilities in EW it must just be rank upgrades and not more stuff to fit on our hotbars

next marsh
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scorch 2 and ver holy 2 please

woeful dagger
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Unless they prune more stuff away first.

coral kite
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mfw Alisai didn't use LB3 as soon as she got the chance

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😔

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hotbar bloat? it's not that bad

tropic frigate
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more for aoe rdm would be nice too

coral kite
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every job as far as i'm aware

severe finch
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everything fits on three hotbars

coral kite
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can fit all their main actions

woeful dagger
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I'd like for them to go the PvP route and make 1-2-3 combos just 1 button in PvE like it is in PvP.

gaunt star
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SCH had like 5 abilities you actually used

coral kite
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on exactly 3-4 hotbars

tropic frigate
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actually

primal sundial
gaunt star
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jk you had more

woeful dagger
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3-4 is too much IMO.

next marsh
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she couldn't use lb there was only 3 people in her party

autumn heron
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did y'all see Estinien is rocking the pony tail in 6.0

woeful dagger
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2 is optimal. With a 3rd for seldom used actions.

tropic frigate
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verholy and verflare 2 could be the aoes

coral kite
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Like, I play on controlller and that's about how many I use at most

vagrant sinew
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god imagine aoe finishers

primal sundial
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there's a couple classes where I'd need a third or fourth hotbar if they add any more stuff

kind lark
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RDM gets veresuna

regal lantern
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I’d like an option to choose skill animations tbh. Some old deleted skills had amazing animations that we no longer have

vagrant sinew
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verhealer

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let's vergo

coral kite
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Esuna in 2021

teal geyser
coral kite
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wh

woeful dagger
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I use "3" action bars, but one is just a giant bar in the middle of my screen with my 5 most important CDs, and the other 2 are where everything else is

primal sundial
gaunt star
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3 should be the max

teal geyser
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^

tropic frigate
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they tend to balance out the buttons right?

coral kite
autumn heron
gaunt star
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if you remove the shitty abilities that you only use when ur synced to like level 15

teal geyser
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unless you love doubling over skills like I do sometimes

gaunt star
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i.e: physick, cure, benefic, b2

coral kite
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MMOs don't generally let the user choose what animation they want to do

tropic frigate
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or has it been increasing slightly over time?

teal geyser
next marsh
woeful dagger
coral kite
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I could see upgrades to buttons but not less buttons

primal sundial
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btw I have 2 hotbars divided between keyboard and mouse + a third one on the keypad for skills you don't use often

woeful dagger
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It's technically been decreasing because they removed a lot of cross-role actions.

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But ShB was an increase from SB.

coral kite
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Poor MCH is already anorexic on the button front

viscid monolith
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The most buttons I can handle comfortably on controller is 32

woeful dagger
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HW was extreme hotbar bloat.

kind lark
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Give us a tank that can revive

primal sundial
autumn heron
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the only job that actually fills out both my hotbars is SAM

tropic frigate
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i like putting aoe on a hotbar holding both triggers

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together

autumn heron
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the rest still have plenty of room

woeful dagger
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I played WAR back then. 3 melee dps combos + cross-role actions + cross-Job actions, etc. that was nuts

tropic frigate
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unless its a more involved aoe class

viscid monolith
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If they add more buttons I would basically have to relearn how to play the entire game

tropic frigate
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which i tend to avoid doing it on casters and ranged

autumn heron
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they wont

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at MOST they are gonna give every job 1 or 2 new buttons

next marsh
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tanks could get reraise skill but it only works on healers

autumn heron
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and replace already existing abilities

woeful dagger
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here's my general setup. i really dunno what i'd do if i had 3+ more actions added lol. but for GNB I can see the new actions just being Gnashing Fang + Continuation becoming GF2, etc.

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viscid monolith
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I can't handle 2 more buttons I am literally at the limit

autumn heron
tropic frigate
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one class that needs buttons is war

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i have many empty slots

woeful dagger
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I'd like if they also gave us like... 4-5 more hotbars to play with, cause I could do some neat WeakAura type stuff with more hotbars

autumn heron
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the only 2 jobs I can think of where adding even 1 new button might be an issue on controller are SAM and SMN

woeful dagger
autumn heron
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those hotbars are filled to the brim

woeful dagger
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They are lacking a lot of what fills out PLD/DRK/GNB

teal geyser
primal sundial
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I use the 2 "original" hotbars + the third one on the keypad (ninja here as an example)

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tardy ingot
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Smn on controller is a pain

primal sundial
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1 to 5 is on keyboard, 6 to + is mouse

woeful dagger
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i think in general DPS probably have it easier than tank/healer for hotbar bloat

autumn heron
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SMN on controller is a fighting game so I enjoy it

woeful dagger
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like DNC for example is a joke lol

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you can use 1 hotbar for DNC

dawn flax
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So, was it mentioned if we can queue duties on other data servers?

teal geyser
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The only job I can think of off the top of my head I don't like playing with controller is paladin and that's more just because the way I like to set up hotbars and the way Paladin plays makes it a real bitch to fit things in in a nice way

woeful dagger
sinful niche
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sadness

tropic frigate
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i hope we can queue duties

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it would be so good

woeful dagger
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It would be a huge blunder on their part if you couldn't queue at least raids cross-DC

autumn heron
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oh yea

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btw

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that means we arent safe from Balmung anymore

woeful dagger
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?

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You mean we aren't safe from you normies

teal geyser
woeful dagger
autumn heron
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THEY'RE COMING

coral kite
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Yea, i'd be cooler with Cross-DC between regions

woeful dagger
coral kite
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and having queues and PF

teal geyser
woeful dagger
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So limiting it by region doesn't 'fix' raiding

kind lark
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UNITE the European servers

woeful dagger
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You really need to open up JP I think to NA/EU.

coral kite
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NA EU and JP can stay contained to each other

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😌

autumn heron
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I would think its limited by region cause cross region would be very difficult to implement

teal geyser
tropic frigate
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yea

vagrant sinew
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yeah cross region is probably impossible

autumn heron
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cause with NA all 3 DC's are in the same place

tropic frigate
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i thought the same for region specific

teal geyser
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I'm just saying it probably has to be limited by region, not because of raiding but because of technical challenges

woeful dagger
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Well the whole point of cross-DC imo is for raiding first, all the other stuff is an added bonus.

coral kite
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Bruh, there is no need to fix the raiding scene, there's nothing to fix. But the way we play on all DC regions isn't the same it seems

autumn heron
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same with EU both DC's there are in Germany

teal geyser
coral kite
woeful dagger
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I don't think cross-region would be hard, but also FF14's engine is really bad anyways so I wouldn't be surprised if it is incapable of loading you to a different region's server.

autumn heron
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I have no issue with PLD on controller

coral kite
autumn heron
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bt that may be cause I always play the weird characters in fighting games

coral kite
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That's not why Cross-DC is happening mainly anyway

autumn heron
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so Im desensitized

teal geyser
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Sage is right though

coral kite
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I mean, all the buttons fit but

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I just don't have PLD buttons in the comfiest spots

teal geyser
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^

gaunt star
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i highly doubt they're gonna let us raid on toher DCs

teal geyser
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I hate it

autumn heron
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I LOVE SAGE

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WHY?

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CAUSE ITS KILLING SCH

gaunt star
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pft

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wdym

autumn heron
gaunt star
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scholar's gonna get buffs because of sage

primal sundial
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^

gaunt star
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finally

woeful dagger
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"surely we'll get buffed to be better than AST!"

primal sundial
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If you think SCH is gonna stay exactly the same you're delusional

gaunt star
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idc about it being buffed to be better than X

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but its gonna get buffs regardless

autumn heron
woeful dagger
primal sundial
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5 years ago

woeful dagger
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and it stayed the exact same, but AST got even better and dumped it

autumn heron
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and the XIV dev team hasnt change their dev ideology at all in those 5 years

violet maple
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Well are white mages in a better spot than they were in stormblood?

gaunt star
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ha ha imagine a hybrid healer being better than its components ha ha h ah ha ha ha

autumn heron
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yes but you would still rather have an AST

woeful dagger
fleet geyser
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yoship said during the 5.4 live letter that they thought scholar was both the hardest and the weakest healer

gaunt star
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then they nerfed energy drain

digital forge
autumn heron
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yes

fleet geyser
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yea

autumn heron
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good

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kill it

gaunt star
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what a stupid buff

woeful dagger
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just because he can say something is bad doesn't mean they can fix it haha

gaunt star
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...

autumn heron
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6.1 SCH IS REMOVED FROM THE GAME

woeful dagger
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it took them.... 6 years to fix WAR?

gaunt star
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they have the potential to fix it

fleet geyser
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war....... war never changes

autumn heron
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yea WAR was utterly broken between 2.0 to 4.5

gaunt star
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maybe if someone on the dev team played sch

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this wouldnt be the case

woeful dagger
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Beast Gauge being cut in half when you swap stances btw

gaunt star
violet maple
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9.0 better make WAR rotation just Fell cleave

tardy ingot
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Give war even more unga bunga

violet maple
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No other spell, just fell cleave

autumn heron
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WAR during 4.X was so absurdly strong it was able to solo some SB content

woeful dagger
# autumn heron yea WAR was utterly broken between 2.0 to 4.5

And for you newer players, Sora doesn't mean 2.0 as just "at some point in ARR". No, WAR was so bad on the release of ARR that PLD/PLD was the only 'viable' raid comp. And that is what lead to the LB gauge penalty for Job stacking to force teams to take a WAR lol

autumn heron
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for 6 years they did nothing but Buff WAR

gaunt star
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LMFAO

viscid monolith
autumn heron
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WAR in ARR was terrible and bad

compact temple
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Sora, where's Kairi

autumn heron
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In HW it was broken in the other way

viscid monolith
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This is hypothetical of course but it gets the point across

autumn heron
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SB it was god

uneven cape
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At this point WAR is Fell cleave

gaunt star
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make it even higher WOKEWEEP fuck the overflow

uneven cape
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SB was amazing for WAR

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Then ShB it wasn't as fun

coral kite
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😔 imagine MSQ roulette actually requiring content respect again

woeful dagger
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But somehow ARR just broke that Job so much it took 6 years of buffs, rework, buff, mini rework, revert the first rework, buff, buff just to get them to a playable state lol

violet maple
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Replace the name warrior to Fell cleave, and the abbreviation to FLC

uneven cape
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Well nowadays all the tanks seem to be in a good position

woeful dagger
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only one behind is GNB

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it needs a little more help on the defensive end

viscid monolith
uneven cape
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I think that was the point

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GNB is supposed to be the DPS tank more or less, but yeah their defensives are lacking in comparison to the others

woeful dagger
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Aurora takes the place of what would probably be another defensive and the upside is you can place it on your other tank. But idk if the Potency of Aurora makes up for that.

viscid monolith
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Warrior was at a good state starting in 2.1, and it stayed the best tank from 3.0 to arguably 4.55.

west ledge
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Damn I'm curious about what the 2nd job will actually be...

violet maple
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Hopes for 6.0 black mage: Ley line tether, where instead of going to your lines, you can bring them to you.

uneven cape
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Watch it have a 5 minute cd lol

woeful dagger
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Glare 2 for WHM I think would be nice.

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As for GNB, I think upgrades to Bow Shock and Sonic Break would be welcome.

coral kite
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I mean that's all healers are gonna get : )

violet maple
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I'd probably guess it'll share the cooldown with between the lines, so that you'd have to pick one or the other

primal sundial
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Black Mage main here: I thought I wanted mobile lay lines, what I actually needed was better knowledge of fights think

uneven cape
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Bow shock and sonic break to me are just sort of their, bow shock sure does look cool, but sonic break is kinda eh

primal sundial
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Between the Lines is enough if you know where to put them

woeful dagger
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Sonic Break is just a stab

viscid monolith
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I'd be fine with Bow Stock and Sonic Break being deleted

uneven cape
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Another thing they could do is take more stuff from squall and seifer

woeful dagger
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Eh, they help fill the No Mercy window

viscid monolith
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Ya that's the problem. They're just boring filler dots that you use once a minute.

woeful dagger
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How is nothing called Renzokuken on GNB I'll never know.

west ledge
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I hope RDM will get a real aoe rotation with a melee combo and finisher

teal geyser
viscid monolith
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Replace them with more interesting attacks

woeful dagger
teal geyser
uneven cape
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What if they do give them Renzokuken tho

woeful dagger
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How would it even work. Cost 2 Carts?

west ledge
teal geyser
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moulinet spam is fine

west ledge
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I find it kind of boring tbh

tropic frigate
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i want the all the classes to be slightly harder than they are now but not by large amount of buttons

violet maple
west ledge
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Or just rdm to get his melee or "weapon" side expanded a bit. Give use more to do with the spectral blades and stuff

tropic frigate
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enfire rdm

west ledge
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that or make the 2nd job a mystic knight stuff :D

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EnFire/Thunder/etc aka FireBlade etc would be nice

blazing shuttle
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/party What, you egg
/ac Sonic Break

teal geyser
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I wish it was

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but 😦

regal lantern
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Yeah or Rune Knight

woeful dagger
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RDM doesn't tyically have the En spells does it?

west ledge
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heck, maybe after your finisher now rdm has a EnHoly on their sword after verholy, dealing more damage with auto attacks, then you swap to EnFlare

regal lantern
west ledge
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depends, in XI and XII then kinda do

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who knows, we might

viscid monolith
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If Sage is anything to go by the actual next job will be more interesting than anything people here will come up with

woven escarp
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it'll look cool at least

primal sundial
glacial turret
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Lol @viscid monolith

viscid monolith
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Ya I should say it will be visually more interesting

woven escarp
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I wonder if it's going to be berserker

west ledge
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I think a rune/mystic knight/templar are more likely than necromancer

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even if they end up using a scythe too

woven escarp
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hammer job HAMMER JOB HAMMER JOB

west ledge
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a ranjit job is more likely than necro imo

viscid monolith
glacial turret
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What if its just berserker

uneven cape
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idk man we literally don't have much to off of

woven escarp
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

tropic frigate
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berserker is kinda

west ledge
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Berserker, how would it feel different from Warrior ?

glacial turret
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Idk

tropic frigate
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it would need to use a much more unique weapon

blazing shuttle
# teal geyser not happening

Tbf hot speculation yesterday was instead of DEATH DARKNESS SOULS it might be elemental reaper like ran'jit, fire and lightning man

woeful dagger
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MNK needs Zell's Duel where the entire raid is put on pause while the MNK inputs various commands to perform a giga attack

west ledge
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Doesn't warrior has a lot of berserker stuff in their story and kit?

teal geyser
violet maple
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It's probably going to be reaper (guessing from the shirts of yoshi-p, and it sounds like the kinda thing zenos would become) of some sorts, which if it is the new melee, would be nice to see, especially animation wise >.>

teal geyser
west ledge
teal geyser
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Listen

blazing shuttle
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The problem is I don't see how they'd meaningfully do a Grim Reaper

teal geyser
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if it uses a scythe

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it's not a "magic knight"

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Fucking fight me

west ledge
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If thief didn't make it in because it was too morally "bad", necro won't either xD

coral kite
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Hades job

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Hades job

viscid monolith
woeful dagger
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Reapers don't need to be 'grim'.

west ledge
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Magic Knight can use a scimitar that attaches to a staff to make a scythe for some special attackes :p

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yeah but if they do necro stuff...

tropic frigate
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it wont be necro

west ledge
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I really doubt we'll get a job that reaps souls and summons the deads

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a spirit caller, yeah maaaybe

blazing shuttle
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A. It would fight with DRK
B. Despite being endwalker there's no real push for us to care about the lifestream or the undead

west ledge
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like a ranjit type job using the spirit of a slain monsters to transform or shit

severe brook
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my guess is that it'll be Reaper, and have some history of being an Ilsabardian martial style about laying the dead and undead to rest, but Zenos will have learned it as part of his personal training and now bastardizes it, using it to just kill everything instead

violet maple
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Thief would be redundant tbh, they go with double dagger setup which ninja already does

viscid monolith
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Rogue is thief

severe brook
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so players who want to be a Reaper as well can have the personal motivation of putting an end to Zenos' making a mockery of the craft

woven escarp
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the thing is that the garleans don't have funerary rites and they've lived in ilsabard for basically ever

west ledge
violet maple
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Oh

teal geyser
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This will probably be the traditional dark knight job

woven escarp
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absorb stat spells haha

west ledge
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And yeah, wouldn't be surprised for Zenos to do the same thing he did with samurai's teachings

severe brook
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^

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it's in character for him

cinder badger
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Mystic Knight would sound better than Templar

tropic frigate
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zenos just gonna learn a thing in a day

woven escarp
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how is that different than the WOL though?

blazing shuttle
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Only reason im in the ran'jit job corner is just because he gives me thavnair vibes and eulmore was eerily close to radz-at-han

woven escarp
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"you can only use this job to heal and protect others"

woeful dagger
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nah you are all missing it. the new Job will be Arithmetician

woven escarp
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literally uses it to slaughter thousands of wamoura

viscid monolith
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Anyway you guys wanna see a stupid forum thread?

teal geyser
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No

woeful dagger
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you have to complete complex calculus to deal increasing points of damage on-the-fly

severe brook
west ledge
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I wouldn't be surprised if it's not supposed to use a scythe but Zenos just attached the sword blade to a staff to make it one

severe brook
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after all, the Samurai skills aren't the only fighting style he knows

west ledge
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clearly

severe brook
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actually, have we had any legendary Scythes in Final Fantasy before?

west ledge
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technically we never see him use much of the actual samurai skills

teal geyser
violet maple
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WoL gets charged by hyd, zenos gets charged by zodiark, commence Kamehameha vs galick gun situation

severe brook
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that's what i mean

woeful dagger
teal geyser
viscid monolith
cinder badger
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I still think the clue has to do more with the Punk Rock theme then the director of a Sex Pistols documentary

viscid monolith
west ledge
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Not even sure Zenos will get a Zodiark blessing

coral kite
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Uhhhhh

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ima say

heady shadow
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Forget the Job, lets pay attention to the possible fact that the nier raid possibly is going to have a seed of resurrection from drakengard.

dread and rip Furiae

coral kite
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nah to that forum post

severe brook
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Zenos is becoming a Botanist guys

coral kite
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because of how few people actually do ultimates

blazing shuttle
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Oh boy it just keeps going

teal geyser
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Furiae smells

severe brook
coral kite
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it's better to havesomething everyoen does

woeful dagger
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Bozjan makes me miss Eureka

coral kite
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instead of something a whole ass less than 30% of players attempt

viscid monolith
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"Hey SE. Instead of cutting this content 200 people will do, cut this content that a lot of people do"

west ledge
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is the new update to it that bad? haven't done it yet

severe brook
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Bozja content is straight up garbage, not even the casual players enjoy it.
Doubt

violet maple
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Zenos becomes a chef.

cinder badger
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@woeful dagger it doesn't matter what the relic weapon content is everybody is going to complain regardless

tropic frigate
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zenos becomes a freelancer

severe brook
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like i've seen people have issues with bozja but the reception has seemed positive overall

woeful dagger
cinder badger
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No Eureka was still treated as a joke and shit on for pretty much the entirety of stormblood

severe brook
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it's a scythe in XI

woeful dagger
hexed mango
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I really liked Eureka I just wish the relics looked cooler

violet maple
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Zenos gets tf'd into a pebble as divine retribution and WoL yeets them across a river to sink it

signal solar
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apocalypse is the summoner book here

woeful dagger
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Unrelated but Beastmaters in 11 can use Scythes as well

teal geyser
woeful dagger
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And we've been introduced to Beast Tamers in Bozjan..

forest magnet
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Eureka relics are the ugliest relics in the game

severe brook
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It is in fact not a greatsword, but actually a large golden scythe.

It is widely recognized among the endgame community as one of the most powerful weapons, and is hands-down the strongest weapon available to the Dark Knight class, making the job a viable front-line fighter in endgame events such as Einherjar, because of the unique way in which it grants the Haste effect to its owner and drains HP from enemies. Of particular note, the Apocalypse has the highest base damage level of any non-ranged weapon, with 103.
ah i'd forgotten

forest magnet
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and fuck pyros rerolling

hexed mango
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Ppl acting like Zenos is changing jobs but he's probably getting a new katana

cinder badger
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@severe brook that was a terrible design they should have just made it a great sword

severe brook
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we can see the new weapon in the trailer though

tropic frigate
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Light knight

west ledge
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can we

teal geyser
hasty totem
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stumbles on another forum complaint about Ultimate being delayed

severe brook
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it's briefly visible by zenos

hasty totem
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

west ledge
#

we somehow see a sort of shaft

teal geyser
hasty totem
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🤔

severe brook
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yes it is visible cal

teal geyser
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We see like, 1 cm of something in front of the throne

west ledge
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could be a spear, axe, scythe, hammer

blazing shuttle
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Do you have a screen of it orz

signal solar
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its like people wanted ultimate

teal geyser
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We like

severe brook
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not completely but it's there

teal geyser
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Don't see it at all

severe brook
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give me a second

woeful dagger
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should i sell this Queen's Guard barding or use it 🤔

teal geyser
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we see so little of it it's more invisible than visible Blitz

cinder badger
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I can't wait for the reveal because somebody here is going to be royally disappointed and they're going to implode upon themselves

hexed mango
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All we see is his beautiful face

blazing shuttle
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It's the garlean/ascian weapon of choice

hexed mango
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No weapon

forest magnet
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"We've been gearing up for nothing"
wow I wonder why ppl raiding in HW then

blazing shuttle
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a gun

severe brook
cinder badger
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Will it be the necro guys the Templar dudes or The Beastmaster buds

woeful dagger
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that's part of the throne my guy

severe brook
#

it is not

hasty totem
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checks Japanese side of the forums instead to see if there is anything about Ultimate being cancelled thread

severe brook
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the throne is symmetrical

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and this piece is not on the other side

blazing shuttle
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Wouldn't the blade extend past the throne

teal geyser
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closer to the former than the latter but probably not super close to either Yayo

hexed mango
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The throne is asymmetrical

forest magnet
severe brook
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i think it's tilted forward

woeful dagger
west ledge
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No it ise simmetrical, true

severe brook
#

the general shape of the throne is symmetrical even if the details are not

forest magnet
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The wing on the right has 2 holes in it

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the one in the left does not

west ledge
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but it's not clear enough to be 100% sure it's a scythe

hexed mango
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The other side is too covered in shadow to really confirm that its symmetrical

west ledge
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could be any weapon with a long shaft

teal geyser
#

The one on the left has two holes too

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one second

blazing shuttle
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Zenos WAR Zenos WAR Zenos WAR

severe brook
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he likely has the scythe tilted forward some, which is causing the throne to block the rest of the blade

teal geyser
hasty totem
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....None.

teal geyser
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The holes are there

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@forest magnet

strange wing
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Clearly those are Dancer arms

severe brook
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also yeah actually even the details are symmetrical

signal solar
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more of NA being NA

west ledge
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or the blade is on the ground and we see the "bottom" part upside down

hasty totem
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....None...

hexed mango
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Wait wait wait

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If thats his weapon

west ledge
#

but it's honestly not enough to tell

cinder badger
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Are you guys even going to survive until May

severe brook
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no

hexed mango
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WHERE IS IT? Clipping through the throne??

hasty totem
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Hmmmmm none

west ledge
#

could be leaning forward

hexed mango
#

Zenos has noclip enabled

west ledge
#

we just can't tell

blazing shuttle
hexed mango
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Hes using console commands

severe brook
#

continues reading the thread

Literally worse than 1.0.

blazing shuttle
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Stoooop don't read the thread

signal solar
hexed mango
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This is a VAC secured server

fallen girder
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Comrade

teal geyser
blazing shuttle
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it's a mezzaluna

severe brook
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Zenos unlocks Genie Hunter

tropic frigate
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while that top part looks unclear the handle or whatever that is looks like its at the front

gaunt star
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zenos fighting using pixies POGGIES

fallen girder
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Watch it just be an axe

tropic frigate
#

lookin kinda like a hammer

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hammer or scythe

severe brook
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i mean zenos makes the most sense to represent the new Job

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since he's giving up his past weapons

woeful dagger
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Zenos is going to convert to a Dwarf and use hammers

teal geyser
signal solar
severe brook
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samurai zenos was fun

crystal sentinel
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It's bloodborne trick weaponhaha

hexed mango
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Watch it just be a fancier new katana

severe brook
#

Kirkhammer

teal geyser
severe brook
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Moon Presence

hexed mango
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Like a bone blade out of monster hunter lmao

severe brook
teal geyser
gusty quest
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Tonight. Zenos joins the hunt.

hexed mango
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@teal geyser

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I have to ask

gusty quest
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God I love bloodborne

plain vigil
severe brook
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yes

hexed mango
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Did you jump when you saw that teaser?

gusty quest
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Absolutely

teal geyser
fleet geyser
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still holding onto hope that the class is gonna be called hunter

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hunter like in bloodborne but also hunter like zenos using a scythe

hexed mango
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CG Alisaie is a thing now

gusty quest
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I'm still hoping for a bloodborne 2

tropic frigate
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that would actually

severe brook
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Bloodborne Kart

tropic frigate
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be really good

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hunter

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the hunt

gusty quest
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Cmon sony it'd make you millions just say yes

woeful dagger
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New Job will be melee Beastmaster with Scythe as a weapon

signal solar
severe brook
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i'm still guessing Reaper
or it'll have the name Templar but with a really weird reinvention going on

fleet geyser
#

i think most likely is reaper

teal geyser
quaint wedge
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I have a dumb theory: what if the new melee job is actually Ancient? Like, Grim Reaper -> Death -> Old Age -> Ancient.

severe brook
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Zenos has become Elderly

woeful dagger
#

Elidibus did nasty things while he was in Zenos' body

plain vigil
fleet geyser
#

did they announce blue mage when they first revealed the expansion?

shy hollow
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lunatic pandora in the logo, yeah

fleet geyser
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because i feel like we'd probably get beastmaster as a limited in 6.1

shy hollow
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at least, from a glance

woeful dagger
#

The semblance is probably more coincidence.

signal solar
woeful dagger
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A giant obelisk on the Moon is a popular trope.

severe brook
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i think the scythe is tilted forwad and thats why it doesn't come around the wing

teal geyser
#

We've seen them

severe brook
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yeah there's a zodiark statue up there

teal geyser
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half buried

severe brook
#

who knows maybe the complete trailer will even have PLDlander walking up to it before turning around

signal solar
fleet geyser
#

inb4 zenos actually swapped to blm

signal solar
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nah

viscid monolith
#

Scythes are weapons you weebs

severe brook
#

if we force him to move we can kill him quick

signal solar
#

garleans cant use magic

severe brook
#

Zenos can use magic now though

fleet geyser
#

what if he just beats you with the stick?

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also yeah he can now

severe brook
#

because Resonant

tropic frigate
#

what if the scythe this entire time has the blade behind his back :^)

severe brook
#

but yeah i don't think hes becoming a mage

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it's not his style

viscid monolith
#

Zenos can use magic. He's been able to since 5.0

hasty totem
#

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm really nothing, couldn't find any...

blazing shuttle
#

I can't really see zenos using a scythe with a blade not as erect as he is

hasty totem
#

Oh well.

teal geyser
#

he can

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so

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your argument sucks

viscid monolith
#

There's only one thread and this MPK is so strange I can't tell if he's a troll

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I'd look up his name to see he has any Ultimate clears but I'm too lazy

signal solar
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no trolling

severe brook
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Troll will be the new Melee DPS job

west ledge
#

So far we have no sign of zenos being able to use magic. Echo sure, but ether still not

fleet geyser
#

he has used it at one point i'm pretty sure

teal geyser
#

one second

severe brook
#

anything beyond raw biology or machinery is magic

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and he's used magical abilities

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like...is it Convexity?

sacred owl
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I mean, he teleported in the Ascian way

viscid monolith
#

You mean the teleportation and force fields aren't magic?

severe brook
#

the big shockwave

sacred owl
#

Didn‘t he?

teal geyser
#

magic aura
magic shield
Magic teleport

severe brook
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the big spherical shockwave thing is magic

viscid monolith
#

Concentrativity is his magitek scabbard

fleet geyser
#

concentravity is not magic

blazing shuttle
severe brook
#

lmao

teal geyser
#

Literally using magick in this cutscene

severe brook
#

but also yeah the shield and teleportation is magic

woeful dagger
#

The Imperial national anthem is pretty epic watching back over the Zenos cutscenes

fleet geyser
#

i guess you could wonder if ascian magic is different from normal one?

teal geyser
fleet geyser
#

but either way he has at least some form of magic

teal geyser
#

magic is magic

blazing shuttle
#

Nah they use regular darkness and untyped magic, numbered darks, numbered quakes, etc...

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Laha and ige are strongly elemental

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blazing shuttle
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man i'm sorry they killed off ivalician moogles,

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now i'm sad

cinder badger
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DRK and PLD use magic.

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It may work differently from the kind of magic Mages use but still considered Magic

woven escarp
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technically everything beyond basic life functions in eorzea is magic

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like drg jumps aren't just like, you train really really hard and you can jump 600 yalms into the air

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that's a wind aether assisted jump

cinder badger
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PLD magic is literally called "Divine" magic.

woeful dagger
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cinder badger
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@woven escarp it's different because Dragoon doesn't have a single spell in their kit as far as I know. Paladin and Dark Knight have actual spells in their kit

woeful dagger
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Juggler in FF17 maybe

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woven escarp
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yeah, but I'm saying that unless it's an explicitly codified school of magic (read: white, black, red, summoning), it's still magic but eorzeans don't understand the difference

woeful dagger
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They will keep it going like FF11 has been kept doing

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Just fashion updates

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coral kite
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Tbh, i've never really thought of PLD's magical abilities as spells but I don't pay much attention to magic lore in this game

woeful dagger
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Everything we do is basically Aether-fueld

gaunt star
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flat mantle
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wtb Templar dps with knightswords

woeful dagger
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I think the only Job that doesn't derive some form of its actions from Aether is WAR.

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woven escarp
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yoshi-p said he has framework for XIV for another 10-ish years

digital forge
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^

coral kite
blazing shuttle
#

they're gonna try to avoid more than one job with the same weapon

digital forge
#

The game's not going anywhere

coral kite
#

is aether enhanced attack

woeful dagger
#

is Fell Cleave aetherical in nature?

digital forge
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Just the arc is ending

coral kite
#

Yes

woeful dagger
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Or is a WAR just swinging really, really hard

gaunt star
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cinder badger
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Spells, Abilities, Weaponskills. Those are the three action types. DRK and PLD have all three but they are melee tank jobs. RDM has all three but is a ranged caster dps.

coral kite
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No, it's an aether infused attack

woeful dagger
#

mog knight omegalul

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coral kite
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that's wshat those chainsaw looking effects on the side are

woven escarp
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any superhuman feat in eorzea is magic

woeful dagger
#

onion knight before mog knight

woven escarp
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well, aether boosted, which is basically all magic under the rules

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cinder badger
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So when thinking about the next melee DPS job and yoshi-p wanting to get creative and original don't dismiss magical function as a window

woeful dagger
flat mantle
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Raubahn kicking a stone pillar was aetheric

blazing shuttle
#

i'm pretty sure if we harassed the story team or yoshi-p enough they'd confirm that warrior's anger becomes aether-based

cinder badger
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So something like a Mystic Knight can still be very doable

primal sundial
#

Warrior is just swinging really hard

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Because he is angry

woven escarp
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someone who jumps 600 yalms into the air isn't getting there by training really hard

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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you're not cutting a boulder in half with your hanzo steel without some help

woeful dagger
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No but someone can run a lot faster than someone else and it not be aetherical

oak pike
#

Doesn’t WAR just change their aether to be angry

fallen girder
#

Angy element

primal sundial
#

^

cinder badger
#

Dragoon ability still aren't considered magic because they aren't tapping into the arcane

primal sundial
#

Angy aether

woeful dagger
#

Inner Beast is tapping into latent primal instincts, nothing Aetherical

flat mantle
#

Is the word arcane even uttered in FFXIV anywhere

primal sundial
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Yep

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oak pike
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Mirage dive and nastrond seems magical

cinder badger
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Actually yes several times in Mage quests they speak of the arcane

blazing shuttle
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arcane is a synonym for aetherial/magical

woven escarp
#

it's only used in reference to ancient schools of magic

woeful dagger
#

Actually Dragoon taps into all the microscopic black holes that are all over the universe and essentially uses them to warp really high in the air

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It's advanced Allagan tech

primal sundial
#

Lel

cinder badger
#

What do you think in Arcanist is?

fallen girder
#

Arent all jobstones aetherical in nature anyway

flat mantle
#

Point

woeful dagger
#

Job stones specifically that we use, yes.

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woven escarp
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arcanima is the study of the nature of aether and using geometric forms to guide and form it

primal sundial
#

This also brings us to the question: is ninjutsu magic?
Ninjas can make flames and water currents

cinder badger
#

Aether is just the force

woeful dagger
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But regular people that are ""jobs"" are just regularly trained without a stone

woven escarp
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ninjutsu is implied to be tools, we just don't have to carry them in XIV

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woeful dagger
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But since we have the Echo we can peep a Jobstones' memories and get a full understanding of an entire lifetime of teaching in an instant.

digital forge
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Job Stones are basically just the same idea as the Convocation Stones

woven escarp
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katon is used often by enemies but it's usually a bomb-type attack

digital forge
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brainworms ahoy

primal sundial
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I see

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woeful dagger
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Why do we still have a sword and shield Job in a world that has access to a nuclear bomb

primal sundial
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Orange mage.
He throws oranges.
Doesn’t actually use any magic.

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woeful dagger
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isn't Bishop a DPS job in FFT:A

kindred rampart
woeful dagger
#

It's a Templar that can use Cure 2 right

primal sundial
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Just defeated her today

woeful dagger
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So like a heavy-armor WHM

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woven escarp
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that's technically pld 🤔

blazing shuttle
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woeful dagger
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Well Bishop/Templar separate themselves from PLD by being less physically stronger and can use better WHM

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So like PLD can use uhh Rank 3 weapons but only Rank 1 WHM but Templar can use Rank 2 of both.

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Think of it that way

severe brook
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i'd thought Templar had worse magic than PLD but more of a focus on physical strength

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though maybe that's depending on the game

woeful dagger
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Could be the other way. I haven't played in a while.

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But you get the idea.

blazing shuttle
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Bishop is already dicey as well since they were angry WHM in FF:TA, meaning Bangaa was the only race who could learn Holy in the entire game

severe brook
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The job originates from the Ivalice series of games, but has also appeared in additional spin-off titles in the series.

Templars are knights who work close to their church, using a combination of physical weapons and magick. They tend to be stronger than other magic-using jobs, since they can equip heavy armor, but they also have weaker magick stats compared to other magic jobs.

teal geyser
#

I can't wait for Barbariccia to come into XIV and everyone simp for her

digital forge
#

Plate DPS is a common request so maybe that might fit with maiming armor

woeful dagger
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Weaker magic stats compared to WHM but better magic stats than other physical jobs

severe brook
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Barbariccia and Rubicante are going to get a lot of fans again

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just like the good old days

teal geyser
severe brook
#

leg so hot

digital forge
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we're not gonna get Sword/Board (Glad DPS) but Templar might work

severe brook
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hot hot leg

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leg so hot you fry an egg

teal geyser
#

Blitz you were the one I told you to look up the song right?

severe brook
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yes

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and i did

oak pike
#

Sentinel makes a comeback

severe brook
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it was great

blazing shuttle
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I don't think we're getting Templar from ff:ta I think we're gonna see it as a job name though. Also holding out for bangaa to be attached for it but we need those gender locks gone first

woeful dagger
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when will we get Aranea in FF14?

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I want her to step on me

teal geyser
#

Never

severe brook
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she'll be Estinien's kid in the sequel

teal geyser
#

kid with who?

coral kite
#

Bangaa in XIV

hroth and viera

teal geyser
#

Adopted kid right?

coral kite
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do yyou really want another race to be added rn

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knowing what we know

severe brook
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ye

coral kite
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😳

woeful dagger
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She will be the reincarnation of Ratatoskr

cinder badger
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@blazing shuttle stop talking about new races and stop talking about gender lock it's not going to be a thing

oak pike
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Races are out of the question tbh

woeful dagger
blazing shuttle
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Yikes that's coming on strong

coral kite
severe brook
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i think the only new races we'll get would be femhroth and maleviera

cinder badger
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I'm pretty sure yoshi-p made it very clear that they were not going to do new races anymore

severe brook
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i mean honestly we have a pretty big roster as is

digital forge
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Extremely clear

blazing shuttle
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That said genderlock is archaic

digital forge
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As certain as "BLU won't become a non-limited"

woeful dagger
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Races just take too much Dev time.

digital forge
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(Aka 100%)

coral kite
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That or they just come out a mess like hroth and viera : )

woeful dagger
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FF17 is when they can start fresh and have cool, new races.

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This game is fine with what it has now.

kind lark
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Maleviera and femhroth will also have no hats

cinder badger
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People just refuse to listen. Words just bounce off their skulls

severe brook
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good thing we can get the Blessing of the Kami 2 so we can breathe in space

kind lark
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Noone gets hats

woeful dagger
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No, Male Viera and Female Hrothgar will have hats but they will not have fixed Female Viera or Male Hrothgar at all

severe brook
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Hats deleted like belts

blazing shuttle
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What level is blessing of kami 2 and does it give increased mount speed

cinder badger
#

Shadowbringers has been out how long now and people are still complaining

woeful dagger
cinder badger
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You think they would just accept that sometimes they don't get what they want and move on if it's really that hard to move on from then quit the game

woeful dagger
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We got Kami blessing at 61 or 62 I think

blazing shuttle
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My guy we get it, why are you monologuing, do you want me to apologize?

kindred rampart
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or what if the job uses a weapon similar to Garlands? Lore could be that it's a "lost Garlean" job that has no ties to other nations like Gunbreaker

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woeful dagger
#

But realistically the Moon might have an atmosphere as a result of Zodiark

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So we don't even need a Kami blessing

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They can just explain it away

fallen girder
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Yoshi said moon has oxygen

coral kite
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Oh god

severe brook
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well that's good to know

coral kite
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Garland's dissidia sword

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dude that thing is weird af

cinder badger
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Apologizing would be pointless because you just going to do it again tomorrow. I have gripes about this game but I've gotten over them within 24 hours of making them

woeful dagger
#

when will Steve from Minecraft and Doom Guy get added to FF14

severe brook
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tomorrow

fallen girder
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Master chief as new class

severe brook
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the 8-man and 24-man will be original

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but the Trial Series will be a crossover

blazing shuttle
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did they say anything about the crossover?

woeful dagger
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nope

fallen girder
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Pokemon trial crossover

woeful dagger
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just that 24-man is not a crossover

kindred rampart
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FFX Aeons as the trial theme?

woeful dagger
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but we got a teaser for Anima

kind lark
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We'll get sans before doomguy

woeful dagger
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So the Moon Primals might be Dark Aeons who knows

cinder badger
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24 man raid is going to be original to Final Fantasy XIV no crossovers this time

coral kite
severe brook
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i don't think ffx aeons will be post-story trials, Anima looks to be MSQ

blazing shuttle
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I think anima's gonna be the 83 or 87 primal

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probably 87

heady shadow
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eh

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83]

severe brook
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my guess is 83 actually

woeful dagger
high swan
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Reaper will use Dragoon gear

heady shadow
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because they showed titania first

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and she was 73

cinder badger
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And then they mentioned that there was still a piece of Unsolved Eorzea lore to discover

severe brook
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i think they're keeping 87/89 in reserve

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heady shadow
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also if this is the end of days, Anima could be a Terminus beast

cinder badger
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That's not even a good joke

severe brook
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i don't think it's a joke, but i also don't think it's the case

heady shadow
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allagans did go into space

cinder badger
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By the way the allagan empire ruled the world not just Eorzea

heady shadow
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whether they had a base or city on the moon is different

severe brook
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we know the Allagans were made up of Spoken races that were able to rise due to Emet-Selch's manipulations and reverse-engineering Omega

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my guess is the 24 Man is about whatever's under Silvertear, since they said it's about one of Eorzea's lingering mysteries

woeful dagger
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that doesn't mean the progenitor wasn't from the Moon and brought down by Emet-Selch

kind lark
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The allagan empire was similar size to the amaurot civilisation?

severe brook
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not just the planet of Hydaelyn, but Eorzea in particular

cinder badger
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This is Eorzea. Not the entire world, just this section of it.

severe brook
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mhm

oak pike
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watch anima is gonna be the primal to represent garleans or some shit like that

heady shadow
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btw

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eorzea is africa. madagascar is on the wrong side though

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xD

severe brook
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The Ancient civilization was world-spanning, Allag was "just" on the Three Great Continents

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so the Ancients technically had more territory

woeful dagger
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I wonder if Anima's bottom half will be a 2nd phase of the fight or just his "limit" he uses half-way through the fight

cinder badger
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So whatever the 24-man raid could be it's going to involve something in this area that we haven't touched on lore wise

severe brook
heady shadow
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btw anima is female

woeful dagger
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i just wanna see the bottom half punch a lot

severe brook
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and have to fight both the upper and lower bodies of Anima

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she will punch

woeful dagger
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Top half is male, bottom half is female.

heady shadow
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bondage mom

severe brook
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she's only female

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in X, she was born from one woman's soul

kindred rampart
cinder badger
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Yes but this isn't Final Fantasy 10

woeful dagger
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The Song of the Fayth used a female, but an Aeon itself isn't tied to the gender of the soul of the sacrificed person.

severe brook
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X is all we have to go on so far

blazing shuttle
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I'm trying to think... Maybe the old civilizations like Mhach and Amdapor?

cinder badger
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This is Final Fantasy XIV and anima can be completely different

blazing shuttle
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for alliance?

heady shadow
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yeah and until its said otherwise

woeful dagger
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If we get a 3rd version of Lost City theme, I am all for it

severe brook
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she could be but we have no sign of what's actually going on with her yet

heady shadow
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all we have is ffx

oak pike
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the only thing we know about anima is just theres top and bottom

severe brook
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so i will presume Anima uses she/her pronouns

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to cut this conversation to its essence

heady shadow
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whats is nice though

woeful dagger
heady shadow
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is the ffx art person being in the ffxiv team this whole time

barren karma
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Ya knowwwwww

woeful dagger
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I just wanna get punched 30000 times

heady shadow
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sweet

barren karma
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if we got Anima

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could we see Seymour?

severe brook
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i am certain Oblivion will be her Phase Transition

cinder badger
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The new job is probably going to be dark and brutal like anima is

heady shadow
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oh people noticed the magus sisters btw

barren karma
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Seymour and Zenos could fight over who has the best hair

woeful dagger
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if Seymour got added to this game im unsubbing

cinder badger
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Maybe the new job will use chains

severe brook
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we proobably won't get someone literally named Seymour
but we might get a character who takes some influence from him

heady shadow
severe brook
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honestly
Fandaniel is kind of comparable to Seymour

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wants everything to die including himself

blazing shuttle
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cursed

kindred rampart
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won't be Seymour but possibly someone with a similar backstory to Animas

cinder badger
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Fandango is nothing like Seymour Seymour was a god

severe brook
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the virgin fandango and the chad seymour

cinder badger
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Fandango is a stooge

barren karma
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I mean Anima is Seymours mother.....or her body was used for it

heady shadow
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seymour was a bitch

oak pike
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seymour theme goes hard

woeful dagger
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the virgin seymour and the chad garland (ff9)

oak pike
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rave music

barren karma
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didnt know Seymour had such hate o.o.....I kinda liked him

severe brook
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what is emet-selch but 14's Garland

woeful dagger
heady shadow
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dude.

kind lark
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SOKEN

heady shadow
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seymour tried to marry yuna

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she was 17

cinder badger
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Technically he did marry Yuna

severe brook
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i mean i think people can still like him as a villain even though he's awful

heady shadow
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hes 28

oak pike
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seymour said "yeah I want her"

cinder badger
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They kissed and everything

kindred rampart
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I want Sin to be used as content eventually
any excuse to have a final battle using Otherworld
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severe brook
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Sin ends up being another Terminus Beast

woeful dagger
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FAntasy

barren karma
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I mean Tidus tho......if I had to choose I'm goin with Seymour

woeful dagger
severe brook
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born from memories and fears of Bismarck

woeful dagger
heady shadow
cinder badger
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Doesn't anybody else ever find it funny that Auron raises his flask to sin and it just makes him look like a crazy drunk

oak pike
woeful dagger
heady shadow
cinder badger
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Did somebody say Koji Fox

woeful dagger
heady shadow
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Former english teacher turned MMO lore crazyman

cinder badger
kindred rampart
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Koji singing a Soken remix of Otherworld

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I can see it

oak pike
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straight edge punk nice

heady shadow
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he sings almost everything else so

blazing shuttle
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Saving that pic fuck yeah

oak pike
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oh yeah i still need to make that koji emote

barren karma
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Still tho that Anima fight is gonna be amazing....

heady shadow
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imagine having your own mom who you sacrificed to bring the calm would come kill you

cinder badger
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What if the final boss for EW is an enemy made up entirely of belts

kindred rampart
barren karma
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....and I wouldent mind a 'totally not but actually Seymour' to show up too....just because of the strong lore connection

heady shadow
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OH

tawny gazelle
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Another boss designed by Nomura

severe brook
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Legatus of the Xth Legion

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Seymour van Guadus

heady shadow
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thats what Raz reminds me of

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Bevellie

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barren karma
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What if in 6.1 all our pants fall down because no one can find any belts anymore......so we have to quest with no pants o.o

severe brook
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the white mages are the ones laughing now

blazing shuttle
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Heavy Status

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oak pike
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your undies falls down

barren karma
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Honeydew has won Ff14

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woeful dagger
kindred rampart
west ledge
coral kite
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put on some pants

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kind lark
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Do I see a belt?

coral kite
woeful dagger
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the sign says no shirt, no shoes. nothing about pants.

coral kite
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a b*lt

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barren karma
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Look the Moon is made of cheese....the only reason Zodiark has not defeated us yet is he has to eat his way out....and it's taking a while....

blazing shuttle
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We finally make it to the moon and first contact with a tribe is just, "So...chunks huh"

heady shadow
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He's eaten enough to look with his eyes

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also if this is like ffx ish.

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maybe we'll get the infamous Trema

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from via infinito

oak pike
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I like the BLM concept art clothes that was shown

barren karma
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ohhh