retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[mossy iron]

I see what you did there SE

[primal sundial]

home to Milwaukee

[high swan]

I have been leveling a few alt jobs in different areas and noticed the Mysterious towers around the place

[pastel coyote]

dragon of the lost ?

[next marsh]

part of the story

[high swan]

Is it possible we will get some kind of world invasion event?

[pastel coyote]

[high swan]

Ah yeah, i did all the MSQ thus far

[pastel coyote]

....

[mossy iron]

grumbles about Fanny

[kindred rampart]

@primal sundial hopefully there's at least a Dancer quest there at lvl 90

[pastel coyote]

you skip cs right ?

[wet crown]

Then why are you asking about what they mean?

[high swan]

But has FF14 ever done a world invasion event before?

@pastel coyote I didn't say anything about not knowing why they are there

[scenic lichen]

So belts are getting removed

[primal sundial]

it would be a waste otherwise

[next marsh]

i mean we did the invading the first

[primal sundial]

we will lose our pants

[scenic lichen]

yup

[primal sundial]

on the moon

with NO pants

[mossy iron]

Who needs pants

[primal sundial]

in our underwear

[mossy iron]

I wear dresses

[scenic lichen]

pantless warrior of light

[forest magnet]

Milwaukee?

[high swan]

No gravity on the moon, dont need belt

[mossy iron]

^

[steep cobalt]

Japanese tramway https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtoLjRwXEAAQkV2?format=jpg&name=large

[pastel coyote]

i think during 1.0 there was some kind of invasion

[primal sundial]

Milwaukee

[next marsh]

isn't that when the garleans attacked

[wet crown]

yes

[high swan]

Yo, that tram is bright as af

[steep cobalt]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtoLkLyXcAEtWjw?format=jpg&name=large

[kindred rampart]

I imagine we'll see the pillars causing mini calamities all over which will definitely explain the world map being on fucking fire in the trailer lol

[mossy iron]

hisses at the light

[primal sundial]

nah it's just overexposed

[next marsh]

does the tram really need that many ads

[pastel coyote]

does the ad need a tram ?

[high swan]

Overexposed on purpose to make the ads pop more?

[next marsh]

and blind people

was bad enough in shadowbringers

[scenic lichen]

Was there any mention of relic upgrades recently?

[kindred rampart]

thats how a train going through the first probably looked like

[high swan]

Whats the chance that if we DO get a world wide invasion event, they will change the areas abit, adding fight and such?

[scenic lichen]

Like when will they introduce them

[primal sundial]

possibly, since they are dark

[mossy iron]

No, the light isn't golden enough

[odd yoke]

Relic upgrades are always x.x5 patches

[scenic lichen]

k

[next marsh]

would be daunting

like that seems like a lot of work

[high swan]

Yeah, Square don't do it. But they do it often in World of Warcraft

When i played it atleast

[pastel coyote]

Well the problem with world invasion here is the whole game don't change like it do with arr

[high swan]

The sharding in that game makes it feel like the world is actually changing around you also

As a result of certain events

I liked the Starshower effect all over Novrandt. But it was in the background, like the towers we currently have

[onyx sundial]

one more loathsome

aaaaaaaaaaaa

[pastel coyote]

And the world of ff14 move with the player, not the other way

[next marsh]

seems like they figured it out more

[pastel coyote]

so making a invasion here wouldn't make sense

[high swan]

You mean how the story moves with the player

So if you are brand new to the game and there was an Invasion in Southern Thanalan you would be thinking "wtf this is?"

I get you

All the more reason to add sharding 🙂

[mossy iron]

Yep

New players don't see the towers

[pastel coyote]

Well i don't know how it work with gw2 but it's supposed to be a "living story"

[mossy iron]

Or the airship in Kugane

[pastel coyote]

Don't know what's it mean given i only play before the first expac was there so i didn't see any big change

[next marsh]

sucks that it doesnt work with everything

like remember when we wittnessed mor dhona being built

[mossy iron]

I read about that

[pastel coyote]

Well a "living mmo" would be great but think about the work it will need to make constant update about the world

[mossy iron]

Or how before they shut down servers for ARR, there was the fall of Dalamud and you could go to West Shroud

[primal sundial]

also keep in mind the spaghetti code

[next marsh]

also alot of data

[mossy iron]

(iirc)

[placid sail]

just look at GW2 for an example why a living MMO is a bad idea

it estranges newer players

because there's so much shit they missed

[lean adder]

Destiny 2 is going living mmo route, it basically deleting my entire inventory

[pastel coyote]

Well it does yes but it make the player really involved in the world

[lean adder]

Also you cant play the destiny campaign anymore, period.

[next marsh]

i mean it works fine if they don't revist past locations

[placid sail]

it basically shits on anyone who wants to play the game for its story

[primal sundial]

tried playing Destiny 2 recently and it straight up threw me in a mission where I had absolutely no idea what was happening

shame

[pastel coyote]

there is plus and con but a "full" living story isn't near to be release

[vagrant sinew]

finally someone who agrees with me

GW2's living world is a bad idea in practice

[primal sundial]

D2 is actually a very fun game but the story is all messed up for new players

[native falcon]

ahh gw2

[vagrant sinew]

because you gotta grind gold to then turn into gems so you can buy episodes that you missed

[native falcon]

loved that i stopped playing for 2 years and they were like wanna know what happens? give us money

[lean adder]

D2 new players darkness is bad, next minute, darkness is good

[primal sundial]

you mean: Shadowbringers

[vagrant sinew]

I wonder if ppl still use the S4E1 area to grind for gold

[pastel coyote]

Well you know if you see irl as a living story that mean we miss some war and other great time

what a shit game

[primal sundial]

Real Life is not a great MMO

[lean adder]

If Shadowbringers was a story made in 3 lines, yes

[native falcon]

cant even be a catboy irl whats the point

[pastel coyote]

ofc it's not a great mmo, the sub is way too high

[lean adder]

Living mmos also dont care ablur your irl.

[coral kite]

laughs in having to buy old "living world" story bits despite buying every expac

[pastel coyote]

Well there is some way to make a living mmo work but.... i'm kinda worried about the "data storage ?" behind it

[thin crypt]

everyone asking why lahabread coming back but im just saying thancred still possessed

[lean adder]

Player> I have finals
Living mmo > too bad you failed to save your kingdom and it burnt down, your npc faction no longer exists.

[pastel coyote]

Like you can replay old content when you want

[coral kite]

Living world seems neat but their idea of how it should be is cringe.

[pastel coyote]

About lahabread.... i just expect they don't do an "eden 2", like they use the wrong mark

[scenic lichen]

Living world stories are boring too

[vagrant sinew]

see GW2 makes me wish our character was actually voiced, but having to voice:
8 different races, including the 2 hyur clans = 9 different characters
12 different voices for both genders = 12 x 9 x 2
4 languages = 12 x 9 x 2 x 4
would cost too much lmao

and the game would be MASSIVE in size

[lean adder]

If i had to design a living world mmo, it be a time bubble carrot on a stick to revisit old zones.

[pastel coyote]

Well the only way to get a good living mmo will be through vrmmo

[next marsh]

he's part of the Pandemonium raid, Pandemonium means chaos so I think it will probably some kind of acid trip

[pastel coyote]

Who want to jump in first ? Promise i will not kill you if we are trapped there

[primal sundial]

Urianger: "Hey WoL do you remember Lahabrea"
WoL: "Ah shit"

[lean adder]

First time through? Destroy enemey castle. Second time through? Monsters inhabited the destroyed castle, clesr em out, third time through? Npc faction wants to rebuild castle for self, fourth time? Defend castle from invaders.

[pastel coyote]

hey it's bascially world vs world vs world in gw2

[primal sundial]

another cool idea is Planetside 2

map changing factions constantly

because players are fighting

[lean adder]

Ps2 not active enough

[primal sundial]

I thought it was really cool

but yeah there's very few people

[next marsh]

Also alternatively Pandaemonium is another word for Hell

[lean adder]

Also favors two factions over the one.

[next marsh]

So Laheebrhea residing in Hell seems fiting

[lean adder]

Red guy sneaking up on friendly blue, shotguns him with nc shotgun, kills blue guy somehow and misses red you turns around and kills me.

[thorn patio]

Pandemonium is from FFII, a castle in hell where in a postgame story old villains and dead friends are found.

[placid sail]

iirc Pandaemonium is a city in Hell

[somber storm]

Dead friends

[next marsh]

there is also one in ff9

[lean adder]

Moonbrya

[thorn patio]

Yeah there is but the design of this one is very strongly FFII with all the links and such

[next marsh]

i mean fair although 2 seems more crystally than fleshy (exception being the walls)

[lean adder]

6.1 speculation is going to he interesting

[next marsh]

would be nice to see a 2 refrence really haven't seen much of it

[kindred rampart]

WoL: Now that Zenos and Fannydanny are taken care of. . .now it's time to rel- oh no the Underworld is leaking

[next marsh]

lol

[pastel coyote]

Well i read somewhere that the symbol with pande-monium was a ref to 2

[unkempt dagger]

Emporer Mateus could be a boss

[next marsh]

this one?

[pastel coyote]

this one

[wet crown]

I'd rather they handle it like Eden and only call back to Mateus

[kindred rampart]

or just straight up Lahabread himself at the finale

[empty scaffold]

Lahabara could just act as an expy of Mateus

[pastel coyote]

Imagine we get a sane lahabread

[wet crown]

But hey, where do you think Lahabrea Prime will fit into?

P12? P1?

Let's be daring : A solo instance

[next marsh]

how was the symbol refrenced to 2?

[pastel coyote]

i don't know

[primal sundial]

it's just 12 minutes of Lahabrea laughing

[pastel coyote]

[wet crown]

Must be the name

[pastel coyote]

Just read it somewhere there

[wet crown]

Pandaemonium is what they call hell in FF2

[wet crown]

[next marsh]

also in real life lore

[wet crown]

I call it tuesday tyvm

[next marsh]

XD

[somber storm]

Lahee

[next marsh]

to me the symbol kinda reminds me of zodiarks ffxii model

[primal sundial]

Hell for me is thursday

Thursdays are the worst

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[wet crown]

Hell's Kitchen Baker

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[wet crown]

🚮

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[unkempt dagger]

The OG Emperor

[wet crown]

Mateus Palamecia

[next marsh]

maybe zodiark is the OG emeporer

[wet crown]

Zodiark is a husk, stuck in a floating rock

[somber storm]

David Bowie

[next marsh]

lol

was thinking the same

would explain all the david bowie refrences

[empty scaffold]

Be it Maetus himself or Lahabara as an expy of him I hope they keep the trap master bullshit from Dissidia to some extent of another.

[wet crown]

Lahabrea favors fire

[gaunt star]

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[somber storm]

Lahabrea going the Kadaj route

From Lahee to Lahabrea

[gaunt star]

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[empty scaffold]

It’ll turn out the real Lahabrea was the Lahabrea we made along the way and not the Lahabrea.

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[next marsh]

also what happend to the clones plot line?

[wet crown]

This chat is now contaminated and needs purging

[kindred rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/742643125981413447/807665845018296360/1qi9sz.mp4

[gaunt star]

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[empty scaffold]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735293485086932994/807928383647776788/image0-13.jpg

Looking forward to these three.

[gaunt star]

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[primal sundial]

Oh I'm playing FF4 right now and ||I met them just yesterday||

[next marsh]

oh i didnt notice those 3

magus sisters?

[empty scaffold]

Yup!

[kind lark]

Lahabrea will turn into one of our friends

[primal sundial]

I need to finish FF4 now that the Endwalker hype is real

[empty scaffold]

It’s about damned time they were, possibly, in game.

Which also makes me think this expansion will have more FFX stuff in it as the Magus Sisters were in X too.

[primal sundial]

well there's anima

[empty scaffold]

Or it’s just kismet because they’re in both IV & X

[next marsh]

right? Felt like their ffx counterparts could've been in Arboritum

[kindred rampart]

would be funny if Matoya actually knows the Magus Sisters. . .and talks mad shit about them due to something that happened in her youth

[primal sundial]

Matoya not talking mad shit about someone

[livid vault]

I am sooo excited for Anima

[high swan]

Oh damn!

Its the magus sisters

[livid vault]

She looks amazing

[empty scaffold]

Hell we will probably see the Four Fiends in some way or another too.

[high swan]

didnt see that, only saw what i thought was a Matanga

[kindred rampart]

Matoya to WoL: Be sure to slap the little one in the face for me

[primal sundial]

I have until Fall 2021 ™️ to play FF4, 10 and 12

[high swan]

Why 10 and 12?

[livid vault]

Yeah I’m hoping I can beat 4 before this comes out

[pastel coyote]

4 and 10 for endwalker, 12 for bozja i guess

[primal sundial]

10 because I feel like it's gonna get more references, 12 because it just caught my interest

and also Ivalice and Bozja yes

[high swan]

I see

[primal sundial]

the soundtracks man

[high swan]

So far there seems to be a lot of FF4 references for Endwalker

Paladin on the moon

etc etc

[empty scaffold]

12 was....

[kindred rampart]

4 and after years due to the moon lore and lunarian summons getting a massive expansion from it

[next marsh]

so theory about Anima

[high swan]

FF4 is one of my favourites

[empty scaffold]

Yotsuyuu?

[tardy ingot]

Wgat

[high swan]

@kindred rampart Is the after years worth playing?

Is it made by the original team?

[kindred rampart]

not as strong as the original but I think it worked as a nice epilogue

[empty scaffold]

Fandaniel is using Asahi’s corpse and is a crazy bastard, maybe he used her as a base for Anima, it would tie into Anima being Seymour’s mother as it’s base and it represent the woman’s suffering & rage.

[next marsh]

thats what im thinking

[empty scaffold]

Would sorta go full circle with those two

[tardy ingot]

So she'll become a primal twice?

[kindred rampart]

I just think Anima will have their own lore adapted
Possibly underworld related in nature

[scenic sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdV4F4i6t3A&feature=youtu.be husky droppped the cover of the teaser theme

[livid vault]

One theory I liked about Anima was that it might be the people of Garlemald accidentally summoning it as a result of all the pain and suffering endured with the civil war, basically wishing for death

[next marsh]

ooooo

[kindred rampart]

Garlemald will likely be fueling A LOT of 6.0's content

[next marsh]

but wouldn't Zelera the death seraph be more fitting?

[livid vault]

Dunno, not familiar with Zelera

[kindred rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/why-dont-we-have-both-both-celebrate-happy-gif-4997058

[livid vault]

I just know if you wanna die...Anima is real good at that lol

Her base attack inflicts it after all

[coral kite]

Finally

Ff10 raid

Jk

[empty scaffold]

Or maybe Anima is a terminus monster, can’t those also be based on/have people used as a base for them?

[next marsh]

i mean lore wise its kinda basically hades

[kindred rampart]

they could always make Sin the relic theme park content lol

[next marsh]

basically just the angel of death

[livid vault]

Where is it from?

[next marsh]

FFXII

[livid vault]

Ah

[unique verge]

Holy fuck

I didnt realize how fucking stupid the BRD bow was

until i looked at it in fitting room

[next marsh]

the new relic one?

[unique verge]

Yeah

[livid vault]

Zalera must be defeated within 5 minutes or the party will be ejected to the Terminus 7 adjunct and will have to try again.

Lol what

[unique verge]

You nock the arrow against your fucking wrist

[next marsh]

Zalera wasn't that hard to be honest

[livid vault]

Oh that’s good then

[next marsh]

seems painful

[unique verge]

Like everything on the left half of that isnt even involved

You're literally just launching arrows off of your wrist

[next marsh]

brd models in general get kinda messed up

the way brds hold Starseeker (FFXIII Event Bow) is just awful

[faint dagger]

i've been thinking

so we have the Endwalker trailer theme

i've been trying to guess what the quest accepted jingle would be

[compact junco]

what type of music would usay the theme goes into

like i love it but cannot place it in a box

[somber storm]

Synth

Autotune

[kind lark]

The teaser theme?

[craggy gale]

soken probably knows about the moonbase alpha singing

[somber storm]

JOHN MADDEN

[craggy gale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B488z1MmaA

[unique verge]

Hmm

Is it just me or are the twins taller in the trailer

[wary perch]

Didn't notice

Maybe the wol is short in the trailer

[unique verge]

Possibly. Getting a screencap of what im talking about

maybe i'm just used to playing a max height elezen but they seem taller

in comparison to another character

[craggy gale]

wol got the gunch

[unique verge]

Yeah i mean im not saying they're derplander height

[gaunt star]

look at his pose

and theirs lol

[unique verge]

just that they look a little taller

not like 3ft taller lmao

[wary perch]

Wol is leaning forward in his pose while the twins are standing straight

Ofcos they look taller

[craggy gale]

alphinaud's shoes be wack as hell

[unique verge]

Well he's literally wearing the Sage AF gear

Please look forward to it

[forest magnet]

isn't that a 2.0 mob

they're fighting

[wary perch]

Also alphinaud is leeching there pretending to engage the enemy but the weapon still sheath on his back lol

[gaunt star]

the sage AF gear customized specially for him*

[primal sundial]

aeiou
aeiou
you're john madden

[craggy gale]

no drip

[gaunt star]

tho sage af boots look bad on everyone

[mossy iron]

Plus, when we first met the twins...they were like...15

[vagrant sinew]

yeah those look... eh.

[gaunt star]

technically its only been a year from 2.0 to 5.0 which is odd

[mossy iron]

They gonna grow

[vagrant sinew]

I prob should start planning out a new glam for sage

[next quarry]

Without the strange strap over the top

They would be better

[unique verge]

Technically they still are unless something has changed. Time bubble.

[gaunt star]

the rest of the set looks impressive tho

[vagrant sinew]

aren't they 16/17 tho?

[gaunt star]

for a healer specially

17 i think

[forest magnet]

physically they're the same age

mentally they've aged at least a year

since they spent time in the First

[gaunt star]

their soul aged not their body

[forest magnet]

I said mentally but yeah

[gaunt star]

but its still aging

[forest magnet]

technically their souls are all thousands of years old

[wet crown]

XIV's story is in a time bubble right now.

But yes, the twins are technically 17, since being a year in the First. Though their bodies are at 16

[gaunt star]

man the derplander changed hairstyles a lot in 1 year

in stormblood twice

[wet crown]

It grew longer...

[gaunt star]

atleast something did

[craggy pawn]

Derplander also got more...not derpy

[wary perch]

What do you mean their soul are thousand years old?

[gaunt star]

they stayed only 1 year on the First not thousand xd

thancred stayed the most 4-5 years

[unique verge]

Derplander now looks like a guy whose seen some shit

[gaunt star]

Cuz reincarnation probs

[drowsy ivy]

Sath confirmed for not reading lore smh smh

[gaunt star]

Or how everyone was originally an amaroutinr

in my defence i havent played in a while

[worn forge]

can we talk about how the Matanga are racist

[gaunt star]

no

[craggy gale]

who isnt

[worn forge]

they hate the lizards

[gaunt star]

well im an Au'Ra they will have to suck it up and give me loot

[unique verge]

Nothing wrong with hating lizards

[gaunt star]

or i can just kill all of them

[worn forge]

enjoy your exclusive dialogue lalafells got a neat little house they could enter in ShB, yall gonna get mean elephants lol

[craggy pawn]

Dayum the matanga scary

[gaunt star]

i didnt see anything neat in those houses

ishgardians thought au'ra are dragon descendants too but ishgardians are a whole different kind of messed up

[unique verge]

In fairness, the Ishgardians had ample reason to be suspicious in that scenario

given the whole heretic dragon transformation shit

[gaunt star]

in fairness the ishgardians suck

well except Aymeric

Estinien is ok now that hes more goofy

[gaunt star]

They should have a chat with ishgardians

[worn forge]

said the person with cornflakes stuck to them

[gaunt star]

I hope the aggro range is longer if ur an Au Ra

LMFAO

and by the end they will praise u

[tiny wind]

[drowsy ivy]

Id rather have cool dialogue than some fookin tom and jerry door

[unique verge]

inb4 there's a matanga S-Rank that can only be spawned by au'ra

[gaunt star]

God

Nah the new ones are gonna be like

[unique verge]

it wouldnt be THAT weird given how fucked up S-Rank spawn conditions are

[wary perch]

The mataga in azim look different from those in thavnier

[craggy pawn]

If you are an au ra and get close to the matanga tribe, you get killed

[gaunt star]

ye give us actual game mechanics while lalatrash get to enter into meaningless houses

"hating au ra? Nooo we're different to those savages"

[wary perch]

Those in azim are naked

[worn forge]

ShB has an S rank that requires BLU iirc

self destruct in Ahm Orangutan

[gaunt star]

Huh

[gaunt star]

Mad cuz you couldn't fit in the door, aren't you

[gaunt star]

its fine i did get inside from a buds account

i didnt see anything to be mad at

its cool but not impressive or anything

Its a nice touch

Considering lalafells are non existent everywhere else

dwarfs are just better lalafell

i dont even put them on the same category

Viera are worse miqote

Worse au ra actually

Both of them look emotionless as fuck

they arent the same at all

Yeah they are they're both emotionless

every race looks emotionless

so idk what ure talking about

[livid vault]

The Lala houses are real cute ❤️

[wary perch]

I don't know which au Ra you met but they are far from emotionless

[craggy pawn]

Male Au ra look pissed all the time

[gaunt star]

Aura female

Have dead eyes

Vieras emotes are half-subtle movements

[drowsy ivy]

malera have resting edgelord faces

and have bigger hips than femra

[gaunt star]

U cry and they slowly wipe a tea away

You do the angry enote and they just shake their head i think

so what xd

[worn forge]

Male AuRa look like future mass shooters tbh

[gaunt star]

its in the nature of the race

Yea emotionless

they are subtle

Or not expressive

ure just too emotional about it

Na

I like lalas and miqotes cause they emote better

[drowsy ivy]

Male ra are exactly what a 13 year old would draw himself ass

[gaunt star]

well miqos are the thot race of the game

[worn forge]

I am also entirely aware that my race looks just as stupid too, we all have our own race issues at this point

[gaunt star]

every game has one

they gotta be the cheerful ones

[worn forge]

every race is cursed

[gaunt star]

Have you seen vieras outfit

what of it

Vieras are more thotty than miqote

I dont think ive ever seen a viera who wasn't wearing a thot glam yet

players dont count

They do to me

Im the one that has to see their bad glams

[tropic frigate]

im just imagining a ton of stuff for sage right now

[drowsy ivy]

dont have to see bad glams if you never log in

[tropic frigate]

weapons have so much potential

wings as weapons

[gaunt star]

Imagine their lb3

[tropic frigate]

glowing relic weapons

dunno if each bit will have a glow

[gaunt star]

people mad we didnt get ultimate

but they didnt see the bright side of that

[tropic frigate]

its fine

because now they get weapons

:^)

[gaunt star]

the new classes will get weapons too

[uneven cape]

Ooh

[gaunt star]

on the plus side the only thing i really have to do in game is UWU

the best race is probably...

[ember forum]

I feel like mostl thirsty egirls play miqos tbh

[gaunt star]

i never do ultimates as they are a waste of time tbh

and the weapons barely look good

[uneven cape]

Haven't done any ultimates

[gaunt star]

i like midlanders despite the fact that i play a catboy

I just need to find something else to play until fall

[wary perch]

Wait till the ultimate is at lv80 instead lol

[gaunt star]

plus the level of commitment required isnt worth of the reward

[tropic frigate]

dncs TEA wep was a missed opportunity

it wasnt the gear looking weapon

[uneven cape]

Partly cuz if I've never finished a savage tier then how would I get ultimate done?

[wary perch]

Unless they readjust the fight with lv90 stats

[uneven cape]

Though I guess for me it's moreso that my schedule is hard to coordinate

[tropic frigate]

i feel im gonna play a whole lot more as the new healer when the expansion releases

[next quarry]

Same

[tropic frigate]

i might actually try to get an ultimate and savage tier clear

[ember forum]

Im already sage main

[tropic frigate]

i have always put off finishing savage

[uneven cape]

Sage can be pretty cool, I just hope that the other healers are also cool

[wary perch]

Savage and ultimate are different and different mechanic

[gaunt star]

ill always be a black mage main but im totally lvling sage

[ember forum]

Ill go ocassionally back to whm once in a while

[tropic frigate]

my brother always keeps telling me to raid constantly

[wary perch]

I max LV all

[gaunt star]

ur brother needs to chillax

[tropic frigate]

he had played TEA and cleared which took like 8 months

[gaunt star]

[uneven cape]

I swapped to GNB when ShB first came out and I only got my old main WAR to 80 a lot later

[drowsy ivy]

SGE LB will just be a massive swarm of lasers lighting up the area healing everyone

[tropic frigate]

i feel somewhat confident when playing healer a lot more than i do as tank

[worn forge]

can’t wait for “raise your dongers” macros when Sage LB3 hits

[gaunt star]

raise your dongers

[uneven cape]

Hey it's Nyanners

[tropic frigate]

earbleed during anima

[gaunt star]

ikr xdd

she did warn tho but it was still shocking

[tropic frigate]

yea

[uneven cape]

I didn't recognize anima when they showed him in the art at first

[tropic frigate]

im glad another class is potentially using maiming

[uneven cape]

Potentially

[gaunt star]

memeing gear

[tropic frigate]

i dunno if they outright confirmed it or not

[uneven cape]

I don't think so

[worn forge]

they didn’t, just melee dps

[gaunt star]

it doesnt matter what gear they use

[wary perch]

Yoshi said it's maiming in the interview

[gaunt star]

just be scythe weapon

[tropic frigate]

in an interview there was talk of maiming

[uneven cape]

The new dps could use scouting gear for all we know

[unique verge]

Yeah in interview it wasnt "confirmed" but they may as well have confirmed it based on what he said.

[tropic frigate]

it makes sense honestly

[gaunt star]

https://tenor.com/view/paimon-gif-19687061

[tropic frigate]

for a slot in maiming

[worn forge]

they also joked about Necromancer and then immediately said the job would be revealed in May

[unique verge]

From #translations-and-liveletters

[worn forge]

and people immediately broke out into a deranged scene of OMG NECRO CONFIRMED

[uneven cape]

I wouldn't be surprised if it's some other job

[unique verge]

So its definitely on Maiming

Any talk of a job that isnt a semi-heavy-armored melee should be dismissed as wrong

[uneven cape]

How is DRG in a special position but not NIN?

[next quarry]

DRG is "tanky"

[worn forge]

DRG DEF stats are ^

compared to NIN

[uneven cape]

Oh I see

[gaunt star]

NIN is weak

unworthy of scythe

[uneven cape]

NIN is made of paper

[worn forge]

NIN has better MDef

[unique verge]

Its in the most special position. NIN shares accessories with 3 others for a total of 4 jobs using DEX accessories. DRG shares accessories with a 2 others for a total of 3 jobs using STR accessories

[worn forge]

DRG has better DEF iirc

[unique verge]

As of right now DRG has the least competition out of everybody

except healers, of course, but thats about to be evened out by Sage

[tropic frigate]

does that mean new class could have something to do with being restricted like jumps are in maiming?

[drowsy ivy]

My guess is its some Reaper/Necro/Assassin type who fights using Death/blood energy
coming to take the edgelord crown from DRK

[tropic frigate]

and drg use to have more damage taken with bfb

[unique verge]

Why would you assume any of that.

[tropic frigate]

well just because maiming

[unique verge]

Maiming just means the new job will be on a heavier armor type

[tropic frigate]

yea

[unique verge]

So people suggesting nonsense like necromancer or thief are dumb

[worn forge]

we saw like seven pixels on zenos’ throne and immediately jumped the gun

[glacial turret]

Remember when drgs had no magic defense and they just died to everything in raids

[worn forge]

and then the mental gymnastics is HE WAS SAMURAI WHEN SAM WAS ADDED

if that was true, why didn’t we also get his golf bag of katanas

[ember forum]

Well, it's not a crime to theorize tbh let ppl

They aren't necessarily dumb

[unique verge]

Yes, but stupid theories will be called out as being stupid

[wary perch]

https://tenor.com/view/soul-eater-maka-crazy-mad-gif-19210174

[gaunt star]

yes they are dumb

[next quarry]

Gets annoying when people say "ITS DEFINITELY THIS"

[wary perch]

^new melee job

[uneven cape]

Yep nothing wrong with speculation it self

[gaunt star]

https://tenor.com/view/dbz-abridge-frieza-stupid-gif-7338709

[unique verge]

If you're theorizing a lightly armored melee when we know its on maiming, your idea is stupid.

Objectively so

[worn forge]

what Aza said, it’s kinda frustrating when people claim their opinion as fact and refuse rebuttal

[uneven cape]

Exactly

[gaunt star]

Its not a crime to theorise but if people keep saying the equivalent of "thancreds gonna become a black mage" thats something else entirely

thancred healer inc

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/739444844992135239.gif?v=1

[ember forum]

Woah, woah.. Kay

[gaunt star]

[uneven cape]

Urianger DNC confirmed

[unique verge]

Well right. Saying "i know for certain exactly what it is" is also stupid. But there are certain parameters that we're certain of.

[gaunt star]

Thancred would be a chemist if he was healer

[drowsy ivy]

You can guess and sepculate all you want
all theories are valid because we have fuck all information.

[unique verge]

We have information

[gaunt star]

Urianger is a jojo character hes multiclass

[spare warren]

guys guys, Y'shtola was an ascian all along

[unique verge]

We just dont have enough yet

[ember forum]

We'll jist see once they reveal and that's it

[drowsy ivy]

It's a melee DPS
thats all we know

[unique verge]

Wrong

[gaunt star]

Hey theres an interview u can read in case you didnt know

i remember when some people said going to the moon was a meme

[unique verge]

we know its on Maiming

[gaunt star]

meanwhile

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/742643125981413447/807674962428297236/moonboi.gif

[unique verge]

by nature of it being on Maiming, we know certain things about what it can and cant be

[gaunt star]

Zenos is the new class fight me

Also again necromancer was already established as a caster so why would it be a melee

Ofc he's the new class

My guy said "fuck this" and broke his katana

also Yoshida doesnt like the idea of the necromancer as a whole

so it wont happen

[tropic frigate]

necro wont be a thing to me

[drowsy ivy]

You limit yourselves by thinking Mancer HAS to equal caster

[wary perch]

I still don't see the blade of the so-called scythe in the trailer

[gaunt star]

...

Bruh

[ember forum]

I just hope it's something with scythe

[gaunt star]

its on the opposite side of zenos

wtf

[wary perch]

For all I know it can be a staff

That use for melee

[unique verge]

It coudl be fucking anything based on that particular view

[gaunt star]

it doesnt look like a staff

[tropic frigate]

i can still see a scythe being a thing however without necromancer being a class

[unique verge]

Anyone claiming to be certain of what that thing is, is honestly just being silly

[gaunt star]

Showing it as a different class in ANOTHER GAME is fine (i.e: DRK)

Showing it as a different class in the same game is stupid

[ember forum]

Would be nice to have all sorts of glowy scythe weapons

[gaunt star]

all i see is the top of a scythe

[worn forge]

there’s like 7-10 pixels and a diagonal bar

[unique verge]

Look at it in higher res on a bigger monitor

[worn forge]

that could literally

be anything

[gaunt star]

[uneven cape]

Maybe he's leveling miner

[drowsy ivy]

more thna enough to make multiple 10+ min clickbait vids

[unique verge]

I'ma repost the screencap i posted earlier

[gaunt star]

hes gonna fight the wol as a miner?

[worn forge]

true

[ember forum]

As a culinarian

[tropic frigate]

botanist off hand

[wary perch]

If scythe is in then job will probably be a shinigami like maka from soul eater than a necromancer when necromancy are literally being an evil art in the lore which explained on alchemist quest and potd

[ember forum]

With a pan

[unique verge]

This shit could be anything

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/742643125981413447/807916526006042644/unknown.png

[drowsy ivy]

could easily be a red herring

[wary perch]

If that's a scythe, the blade must for ants

[uneven cape]

I'm sure they know we look really into these sort of things

[unique verge]

Like, i'm not saying a scythe job is impossible

[wary perch]

Cos I can't see the blade on it

[unique verge]

but saying THAT is proof of it is ridiculous

[gaunt star]

[ember forum]

Wtf is even that

I cant even distinguish

[unique verge]

I know right?

[gaunt star]

look people think their WoL was someone important pre-2.0

[unique verge]

That was my point

[gaunt star]

let me think of scythes

[unique verge]

that could literally fucking be anything

[gaunt star]

[drowsy ivy]

Technically so is Summoning but we do that for the forces of good.

Personally I think its more likely to be some death/blood magic and not just skelly caster like people default too when they hear necromancer/reaper

[wary perch]

Could be Thor hammer

[worn forge]

our summoning isn’t one that can temper tho

[high swan]

Its the back end of the scythes head. The blade runs down behind the chair, you cant see it

[gaunt star]

death knight poggers

[wary perch]

@drowsy ivy the summon magic used by smn is different from those that used to summon primal

[ember forum]

I'm kind of bummed it's nit gealer and tank, but oh well

[gaunt star]

this!

[worn forge]

Black Magic is outright banned outside of the few Thaumaturges and the Guild; we end up being an exception to the ban because we’re pro

[ember forum]

We could definitely use another tank

[unique verge]

behind the chair
That view IS behind the chair.

[hallow gate]

Actually very well could be the pommel of a weapon, not the head.

[wary perch]

Otherwise we are tempered by our egi

[uneven cape]

I disagree personally, we just had GNB

[high swan]

@unique verge

[drowsy ivy]

Yeah WE know that
but the common person probably doesnt.
See someone poop out a mini monster god and youll prob freak out.

[high swan]

lol

[gaunt star]

we need a new caster and by we i mean me

[uneven cape]

Caster is probably gonna be 7.0, and by then the amount of new jobs we'll be getting will probably dwindle to 1 new one per expac

[wary perch]

@high swan the blade angle must be really steep cos the chair are not that wide in the trailer

[unique verge]

Not to mention wtf is that "hollow" section in it?

[gaunt star]

it could still be 2 if they bother creating originals and not just pulling from the FF universe

[unique verge]

you wouldnt see that on a scythe blade

[drowsy ivy]

plot twist theres no blade
The blade is formed from his concentrated edgelord mary sue energy

[wary perch]

The blade must be less than 30° in the angle for it to hide behind the chair

[high swan]

Its a fantasy designed weapon

[eager fox]

Hi Raging

[high swan]

There are all sort of crazy designs that dont make sense in the game already

[wary perch]

@drowsy ivy probably keep the blade between his juicy ass

[eager fox]

like shooting down mechs with bow and arrows

[gaunt star]

[high swan]

But the blade DOES look abit to steep

[eager fox]

Hi Sath

[blissful tide]

@gaunt star I think it’s more about having to balance all of the classes than them running by out of ideas

[high swan]

ill still go with a Scythe because i really want a scythe

[drowsy ivy]

Hi Teddy hows your hype?

[eager fox]

immeasurable

[gaunt star]

balancing 4 healers will be fun

[glacial turret]

Hi teddy

[eager fox]

I called my Mom and told her about the expansion and she told me not to call her at 3 am

Hi Daisy

[gaunt star]

Hi Teddy

[glacial turret]

Lmaooo

[drowsy ivy]

nice
little let down that it doesnt sound like a job with a big fricken hammer but alas

[glacial turret]

Teddy you’re the cutest eboy

[drowsy ivy]

based Teddy

[eager fox]

[gaunt star]

just give war more hammer glams

problem solved

[wary perch]

The blade angle to the handle not only need to be narrow but also curve in toward the handle based on the look of the chair

[eager fox]

what are the top theories now for the new melee? are people still fixed on necro?

[gaunt star]

yes for some reason

[uneven cape]

Many are thinking reaper

[autumn heron]

necro pretty much deconfirmed

[gaunt star]

[wary perch]

If it's scythe, the blade probably is etherial

[unique verge]

"Scythe User" is popular. so is that ridiculous Templar thing based on shirt.

[eager fox]

I still think it'll be original

[drowsy ivy]

Im team Necro/Reaper
Templar sounds ||fucking lame|| tbh

[gaunt star]

what if it seathes itself like some drg weapons

[eager fox]

Yeah I don't get the Templar leap

[uneven cape]

The templar thing seems so far fetched

[gaunt star]

the necro thing seems far fetched when yoshi p doesnt like necromancers

[autumn heron]

Templar is a reach especially since templar is legit just PLD

[heady shadow]

honestly, we should keep an open mind about it.

[drowsy ivy]

I guess if it does turn out to be Temp I can make Deus Vult memes

[wary perch]

So is spider man for samurai

[heady shadow]

i mean they threw sage at us

[eager fox]

true sath

[heady shadow]

and no one could have guessed that

[unique verge]

I'm still leaning towards "something like a Judge" with a dual-ended sword (Gabranth style) or "something like a Legatus" (using the Garlean long-gunsword fighting style that we see from Gaius/Regula/Fordola/etc.) based on it being a heavy armor wearing melee DPS.

[drowsy ivy]

Yall got a sauce on Yoshi not liking Necro?

[eager fox]

Judge is more probable thank necro imo

[gaunt star]

it was in an interview i think

[wary perch]

@drowsy ivy it's in the lore

[uneven cape]

No one expected lazer guns for a healer of all things

[autumn heron]

that fact that they name dropped necro SEVERAL times

[unique verge]

Templar, while ridiculous, at least does fit in with the concept of heavy armor melee.

[wary perch]

What you gonna with necro? Summon dead body to help you fight?

[autumn heron]

pretty much deconfirmed it

[heady shadow]

not reven just lazre guns

[drowsy ivy]

laser dildos

[heady shadow]

they are fucking gundam fin funnels/dragoon system

[autumn heron]

they wouldnt mention it if people were right in guessing

[onyx sundial]

Or thats what they want you to think

[ember forum]

In the end we will all be wrong and it'll be something no one though of

[eager fox]

Hi Refi

[drowsy ivy]

too limited in your thinking
Death/blood magic is what Im leaning towards

[heady shadow]

https://twitter.com/TmiFromDoma/status/1358223572490158080?s=19

T'mi (@TmiFromDoma)

I saw this, so I stole it

Retweets

660

Likes

1203

Twitter · Feb 7, 2021, 1:18 AM

[eager fox]

I mean sage is pretty originalish

[autumn heron]

REMEMBER KIDS

[eager fox]

so maybe the new melee will be original too

[autumn heron]

WE GOT SAMURAI

FROM SPIDERMAN

its all in the air

[heady shadow]

yes.

thats why keep open minds

[drowsy ivy]

Sam=Spiderman is the basis for the Templar theory

[onyx sundial]

Sage is original in terms of weapon and theme but its been done

Gunmage gonna be fun

Gunmage go brrr

[eager fox]

well, yeah shield healing isn't new lmao

[autumn heron]

Sage traditionally uses a rod so they would have to give it a new weapon

[gaunt star]

how the fuck did spiderman lead to samurai

[mossy iron]

I am excited no matter what.

[onyx sundial]

No i mean sage has been in ff

[gaunt star]

[autumn heron]

I wasnt expecting them to make it a gundam

[eager fox]

but its not the same

[wary perch]

@drowsy ivy then that's doesn't work as necromancer since necromancer by default is resurrect the dead hence necromancer

[onyx sundial]

It just didnt use guns

[eager fox]

this implementation is original

[onyx sundial]

Its a very different mage yeah

[autumn heron]

Sam Raimi, SAM

[heady shadow]

Gundam and pso2 too

[gaunt star]

fuck off

[autumn heron]

Samurai

[gaunt star]

thats so bad 😭

[onyx sundial]

Only similar things is it uses magic and it can heal

[eager fox]

mhm

[uneven cape]

In terms of tanks, I'm curious to see what they're gonna go with our current tanks

Or do with rather

[unique verge]

Hopefully delete half of GNB's buttons so its not miserable to keybind.

[eager fox]

no

[gaunt star]

lmao

[autumn heron]

I think tanks are gonna be touched the least in 6.0

[drowsy ivy]

IM CALLING IT NOW
PLD GETS A LIGHT VERSION OF DRKS CLONE

[autumn heron]

all the tanks are in a good spot

[gaunt star]

no offense but thats a lame idea LMAO

[autumn heron]

they are just gonna give them all one or two new fancy buttons

[gaunt star]

PLD is not a DRK copy and should have no reason to be

[drowsy ivy]

WAR will get even more Fell Cleave bc why be creative in anyway

[gaunt star]

true

it'll get a super heal

[drowsy ivy]

Blasting zone every 15 secs

[gaunt star]

or something

[unique verge]

DRK 'clone' is literally a manifestation of you being out of your damned mind. Why would PLD have an equivalent of this.

[gaunt star]

blacksmith DoW confirmed

[autumn heron]

FELL CLEAVE TIMES 30

pog

[eager fox]

omg

[gaunt star]

anyway

they did say they wanna give every class what POA is to PLD

so

[eager fox]

this subject makes me wanna order a pizza

[drowsy ivy]

and not to be outdone. Drk gets 2 clones

[gaunt star]

i have no idea what that'll entail

[glacial turret]

Do it

[gaunt star]

pizza

[glacial turret]

From 2 days ago

[uneven cape]

oooooh

[gaunt star]

i had a dream where evryone was eating pizza

[drowsy ivy]

pizza sounds nice buy I had chinese last night
too many calories

[glacial turret]

Does pizza exist in eorzea

[gaunt star]

yes

[autumn heron]

the weirdest thing

[glacial turret]

I bet it has pineapple

[unique verge]

I literally make and sell pizza in game so yes

[autumn heron]

people are treating AST like its getting nerfed

[drowsy ivy]

I wish Pizza was my BiS raid food

[unique verge]

!item Pizza

[lusty shadow]

**Pizza** **:** Meal : ilvl 510

*A simple-but-satisfying dish of thinly worked dough topped with tomatoes and cheese, baked in a wood-fired oven until crispy.

EXP Bonus: +3% Duration: 30m
(Duration can be extended to 60m by consuming multiple servings)*

Determination

8% [86] (10% [108] HQ)

DirectHitRate

8% [143] (10% [179] HQ)

Vitality

8% [208] (10% [260] HQ)

Powered by XIVAPI

[autumn heron]

when all they are doing is removing NOCT

[onyx sundial]

There was a time when veggie pizza was a bis food choice

[drowsy ivy]

it unironically does

[autumn heron]

which is functionally useless anyway

[glacial turret]

Hi Refia

[drowsy ivy]

and fucking mint for some reason

[glacial turret]

Cutest egirl

[onyx sundial]

Thanks daisy

[wary perch]

They really.write themselves into the corner with drk tdn and clone

[uneven cape]

Refia is def in the S tier of egirls for sure

[wary perch]

They can't removed these 2 skills ever

[onyx sundial]

Did you buy a sub to my twitch yet

[glacial turret]

No

[onyx sundial]

[next quarry]

simp

[gaunt star]

tier 3 sub where

[fallen girder]

I accept everyones twitch subs

I'll give a headpat emoji in return

[eager fox]

headpat me

[fallen girder]

[kindred rampart]

https://imgur.com/qSHFDOX

[heady shadow]

our boi was so young

now hes like manly

[kindred rampart]

Baby Derplander: Hmm I wonder how far I'll go
Man Derplander: TO THE MOON!

[worn forge]

the Bard used a healing spell in that trailer

those were the days 😔

[unique verge]

As i said. Derplander has seen some shit

Fucking rugged now

[brisk quail]

We watched him grow up.

[autumn heron]

I cant wait

for the 6.1 MSQ

to be the long awaited

anime beach episode

[heady shadow]

vacation, i was going to say.

but ye

[forest magnet]

god that pld pose looks so cringe

the more i see it the more i hate it

[autumn heron]

its the normal PLD pose

[gaunt star]

ur cringe

[autumn heron]

its literally the one female PLD's ingame have

[gaunt star]

i hope they keep the singing soft in the song

[autumn heron]

continuing the trend of female characters getting better poses

[gaunt star]

shb's singer was cool and all but i wanna appreciate the music too, not just the singing

[forest magnet]

so singing is not music

?

[wary perch]

Female pose is different

[autumn heron]

female characters have all the best job poses

just like how female characters pretty much have better everything in the game

[heady shadow]

drk female thordan pose

[wary perch]

Drg male pose is better

[autumn heron]

male DRK is the cloud pose, neat but done to death

[static niche]

still mad female don't get that

[autumn heron]

you do

the victory pose

[wary perch]

If only there's cpose

[autumn heron]

is the cloud pose

[static niche]

only in an emote that doesn't static

[wary perch]

Hm....

[static niche]

you gotta gpose and time it just right

but w.e float your boat

[brisk quail]

Yep. It's the female idle pose. I know cuz I play a female character and main PLD

Here's proof of someone elses character.

[wary perch]

Male also the same

But femal.hold the shield more uptight and stiff

[gaunt star]

female drg pose is shite

male drg pose is chadded

[brisk quail]

DRG female post garbage

[wary perch]

Will male hold the shield more loose and natural just like the trailer

[gaunt star]

standing perfectly still with your arms to the side is cringe?

[wary perch]

The derplander pld pose in the end of trailer is the male version

[autumn heron]

Oh yea thats true

I didnt notice he was holding the shield lower

[gaunt star]

... no, singing is not music

music is the tune

the melody

the w/e you wanna call it

[coral kite]

I am indeed cringe

[gaunt star]

gottem

[wet crown]

since they want to give every job an amazing skill like passage of arms, doesn't that mean GNB would get Army of One?

[gaunt star]

i'll accept that its the official def

[wary perch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/674936576131858442/808015040799965224/0cc9d4e4.png

[gaunt star]

but it should also be pretty obvious what i mean when i say i wanna appreciate the music over the singing

[wary perch]

The blade is dam short if true lol

[gaunt star]

the soft singing complements the music well

[autumn heron]

Zenos is a Ninja now

confirmed

He is holding a Tanto

[wary perch]

When estinien bend his spear, he will become necromancer

[orchid plinth]

He will equip dual wield ability for sure

[wary perch]

He will raise his ownself whenever he tank the floor

[orchid plinth]

Lool

[wary perch]

Necromancer yo

[coral kite]

you don't understand, every XIV theme must have loud as fuck lyrics

[wary perch]

The true undead

And share maiming gear with drg too

[autumn heron]

Soken likes all male choir's and heavy lyrics

its his musical style

all musical composers have a specific style that lets you tell them apart

[gaunt star]

stormblood

[wary perch]

The current trailer is the short version anyway

[autumn heron]

Yoko Shimumura LOVES soft piano out of nowhere

[gaunt star]

if it ends up being like SHB theme i'll just enjoy the instrumental

[wary perch]

The complete one will have vocal that rival shb theme

Gonna be as loud af

[gaunt star]

sadge

[autumn heron]

I've played so many games where Yoko was the composer I can pick out all her songs by the first few notes

Same is starting to happen with Soken

[woeful dagger]

did someone ask for a badass female pose

[autumn heron]

Musical composers change genre's all the time

but their style always stays the same

the full song will have loud lyrics

maybe a all male choir as well

[gaunt star]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wary perch]

I don't give a dam

I just want good music

Soft or loud or whatever

[gaunt star]

i dont think shb-esque music would fit the theme on END

but we'll see

[primal sundial]

sorry but the best abbreviation for the next expansion is

EW

[gaunt star]

ok

[kindred rampart]

just glad it isn't another SB name

[viscid monolith]

@kindred rampart What do you mean

[orchid plinth]

Going for reaper

[regal lantern]

The new song is underwhelming

[orchid plinth]

In shibuya

[woeful dagger]

I mean really 90% of this game's music is remixes of existing FF tracks (including from previous expansions)

So it's not about "shb-esque" but more finding the FF game that fits EW well and they'll rip a bunch of music from that FF game

[severe brook]

the new song isn't complete yet

[gaunt star]

perhaps

[woeful dagger]

I expect some more FF8 music, especially on the Moon. And probably some FFX music as well.

[regal lantern]

Compared to the dramatic feeling ShB “teaser” had with the female singing, this one is underwhelming

[kindred rampart]

some people were juggling on Shadowbringers on the first day reveal cause Stormblood was already "SB" until "SHB" stuck

[woeful dagger]

FF12 due to Zodiark is also a high probability. Though we've had two expansions with FF12 themes and remixes now.

[autumn heron]

Its meant to be a lot more sombre as this is very literally the end of the world

[regal lantern]

Teaser for ShB made people yearn for the plot/story like crazy

[severe brook]

looks at the fact that it opens with us on the moon

[woeful dagger]

But Yoshida has a massive hard-on for Ivalice.

[autumn heron]

you wouldnt normally depict that with a loud bombastic sound

at least

if you have any taste

[woeful dagger]

depends what you are going for

[next quarry]

we have more background for the EW trailer

[woeful dagger]

like if we go to the Moon and the first thing we see is Zodiark on the dark side, you better have a loud sound for that.

[next quarry]

events leading up to ShB were more mysterious

[regal lantern]

It’s not exactly sombre either. It has some remix Allagan electronicore vibes

[viscid monolith]

Fuck taste. The end of the world needs to be loud and bombastic.

[severe brook]

I think that the intro will stay soft, and later stuff will be loud

i mean even the teaser does that a little bit

[viscid monolith]

We're killing Zenos or going out in a blaze of glory

[regal lantern]

Lmao don’t embarrass yourself in a public server like this lol

[gaunt star]

https://youtu.be/46EGTZzYSVw

🤨

what singing

lmao

its faint just like END's

[autumn heron]

I mean, I took lessons and worked in film production for 5 years. Im just going off the things I learned from that experience

[kindred rampart]

the end of 4.0 felt way more abrupt
I know I didn't like the way they split the finale either but it is what it is

[regal lantern]

@upbeat jay:39

[gaunt star]

yea, end of the world and end of an arc after 10 years. i dont want loud hype music, i want something that makes me emotional

[woeful dagger]

well the beginning of EW's teaser is definitely melancholy

[gaunt star]

that's a woman going "aaaaaaaaaaaa"

but i cansee wym

[regal lantern]

Oh and that’s not singing?

[woeful dagger]

A woman chanting can still invoke emotions in you lol it doesn't need to be lyrics

[regal lantern]

Didn’t realise no legible words =/= singing

[gaunt star]

did i say it wasnt singing

no

i stated what the woman was doing

[regal lantern]

Here

[drowsy belfry]

I mean it's scatting and not traditional SINGING IN A SENSE

[gaunt star]

damn i do be moving the goalposts

LMAO

th...

scatting?

🤨

[regal lantern]

And EW music doesn’t have the end of the world feeling. There’s no dark/sad undertone, there’s no “this is it... the final showdown” feel nor “this is... the end...” sadness either

[drowsy belfry]

Lack of a better word

[gaunt star]

i wouldnt say its improvised vocal sounds

[forest magnet]

are u guys still arguing if singing is music

[gaunt star]

no

we already got over that

[primal sundial]

to me it sounds like we're going towards the epic final showdown so I'd say it fits

[gaunt star]

i wouldnt say there's tension in the music, but there's something similar to tension in END

^

[autumn heron]

the term your looking for is melancholic, and it fits pretty well