retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[cinder badger]

Hey I had a thought what if changing his shirts was also a symbol of something

[viscid monolith]

I hope it's an easy unreal

Like Leviathan

[woven escarp]

oh shit, u rite

[heady shadow]

its gonna be Garida

[woven escarp]

it's mime

[wind orbit]

cape westwind unreal

[woven escarp]

mime next job

[wind orbit]

or else i riot

[tiny wind]

imagine

[woven escarp]

cape westwind unreal would be hilarious

because people would actually be doing the fight for the first time

[cinder badger]

I mean what if the new job has two different forms

[oak pike]

cape westwind min ilvl was fun

[woven escarp]

"oh shit, that's how that works?" gets fucked by rocket spam

[prime verge]

Lol

[heady shadow]

i did cape when SB cvme out so

it was...lol

[cinder badger]

Just think about it for a moment if that one shirt was going to be his clue for the next job and he already reveals the first job why did he have to run and change to the new shirt. He could have just worn The Neighbourhood shirt

And then pointed it out when they started talking about the DPS job

So what if the changing of the shirts is part of the clue

[heady shadow]

we dont ask why he does these things

[woven escarp]

the shirt speculation is 100% why he does it

this may be the expac where the shirt means nothing and he did it just to get nerds talking about it until may

[pine epoch]

I mean we could just talk about rock and metal bands and stuff

And eventually we get the job identity

[untold gull]

speaking of

[balmy mesa]

aahhh lmao, cape westwind

[untold gull]

EW main theme release when

[balmy mesa]

may

[untold gull]

main theme?

ya sure?

[balmy mesa]

oh, not the actual soundtrack, but the full song will be out in may

[pine epoch]

Koreans got a shadowbringers music video. While we got a tomorrow and tomorrow music video

[balmy mesa]

with the trailer

if that makes sense?

[untold gull]

i suppose

[balmy mesa]

but the actual soundtrack... not for ages

[oak pike]

i just want the main theme to be out

[cinder badger]

Wonder what the actual main song will be

You know like how we have answers Dragon song revolutions and tomorrow and tomorrow

[oak pike]

theres likee two main themes in each expansion

i want the one in the trailer

[cinder badger]

The trailer is not even complete

So there might be more to the song

[heady shadow]

well yeah

[oak pike]

[cinder badger]

Remember when alphinaud said that their time will come

[pastel coyote]

Until we get it full we (you) can work on finding the lyric

[cinder badger]

He was right

[pastel coyote]

yeah yeah yeah

[cinder badger]

I wonder if that's soken saying that

He was the guy behind one brings Shadow one brings light

[maiden lodge]

This, it sounds like Soken's singing on that track, using the same distortion he did for the early ShB trailers until Jason C Miller put in the good work.

Trailer is also short

[pastel coyote]

Just to be sure, does the wol have an ancient attire at the start or it's just me ?

[maiden lodge]

hail mary prediction:

Endwalker theme will be a duet between Jason C Miller and Susan Calloway.

[maiden lodge]

I think the 'ancient' visual reference is intentional

[heady shadow]

I dont think my ears are ready for that

[cinder badger]

I thought the Paladin AF just had a matching cloak

[maiden lodge]

Voice of Hydaelyn in song, and the voice of the Ascians in song... to end the arc. Yes. Please.

[pastel coyote]

duet of Hydaelyn and zodiark

[maiden lodge]

YES.

[pastel coyote]

Really i doubt that the moon will be the last area

[cinder badger]

It feels like though the only way to really end this is to bring about the ardour

[tiny wind]

inb4 moon is first area

[cinder badger]

Which means everything you did in shadowbringers kind of meant nothing

[pine epoch]

Well soken and yoshida say both Shadowbringer and Tomorrow and tomorrow are the main theme of shb. Effectively 2 sides of the same coin

[maiden lodge]

Also, something to note

Walker is a term for someone with the echo.

[pine epoch]

Still want Aztec dubstep in FF14

[pastel coyote]

Heeeeh

[cinder badger]

When did Walker become the term for someone with the echo

[pine epoch]

1.0 I think

[maiden lodge]

1.0 please look forward to it

[pastel coyote]

Dis i dunno if i'm making shit but are you implying

[pine epoch]

I mean the cg image of 6.0 wol is reference to gladiator wol from 1.0

[maiden lodge]

Specifically... a 'Walker' of the Path of Twelve

[cinder badger]

What part was that from because I don't remember seeing it

[pastel coyote]

Only for Dis, : did you play || divinity 2 and finish it ? ||

[cinder badger]

Wait they called us walkers

[maiden lodge]

No

[pastel coyote]

ho

[maiden lodge]

mmmhmmm

[pastel coyote]

too bad cause it could have seen something in it

[cinder badger]

But if they call this Walkers that means we're zombies

And if we're zombies

[maiden lodge]

No that's literally not this franchise

Okay another meaning for Endwalker

Walker--the Traveller.

Azem is the Traveller.

[regal lantern]

It's just a robe

[pastel coyote]

Well there is two way to "end" something in this case: nobody is a walker or everyone become one.

[untold gull]

a dirty ass robe

[fast rampart]

end walker

kill azem

Azem final trial confirmed

[untold gull]

pls no

[pastel coyote]

create new character

[fast rampart]

EZ

[maiden lodge]

The visual reference from behind is a clear Ancient reference--something we've shown up as to certain others before

[cinder badger]

We are Azem

[untold gull]

not only that, the sun is on the background

[maiden lodge]

THIS.

[pastel coyote]

we already get an "azem" trial

[untold gull]

azem's constellation depicts the sun

[pastel coyote]

[maiden lodge]

'Ancient walking into Sun' is super Azem reference

[regal lantern]

People forgot this existed?

[cinder badger]

So the world's are rejoining?

[untold gull]

you know, i'm still annoyed i never caught the dark knight reference early on. i knew the helmet looked too much like cecil on the logo. but to think they'd do a whole ass dark knight turned paladin arc with a ffxiv twist was just

[pastel coyote]

There some week we were "enough of ancient ref, they better not make one"
azem walk toward the sun

[regal lantern]

It's even the same robe

Like its the same robe WoL wore back in HW trailer

[untold gull]

must be a good one to have kept it

[pastel coyote]

[somber storm]

Azem the sun

[regal lantern]

It's a robe, ofc robes all look similar

[cinder badger]

Maybe the warrior of light is an assassin

[regal lantern]

Be it ascian or whatever

[cinder badger]

An Assasscian

[maiden lodge]

That's.... robed WoL walking into the sun

On the moon

That's... like... hard to claim is not an Azem ref

[regal lantern]

I mean we don't exactly need that ref, we ARE Azem

It's kind of everything 5.3 was about

[maiden lodge]

The fact the reference is on the nose is not evidence it fails to be a reference.

[cinder badger]

Yeah 5.3 kind of confirmed that you know with it literally telling us that we were Azem

[regal lantern]

Speak english

Or learn to use commas

[maiden lodge]

The reference is on the nose. It's not meant to be a secret. It's meant to say 'Yep, here's Azem, on the moon'.

Saying the reference 'isn't a secret' or whatever isn't a counterargument against the visual language being apt.

[cinder badger]

But we don't need the reference because we can just look at the warrior flight being on the moon and saying yep there's azem on the moon

[maiden lodge]

That

Tha tis literally not how visual language works

You don't exclude things just because they're appropriate and previously established

[pastel coyote]

i need it in my life

[wary perch]

The robe in ew trailer bis actually pld new af with the hood on

[maiden lodge]

'Don't include visual callbacks, because they referene something established' doesn't even make sense as an argument

[wary perch]

And without the weapon

[maiden lodge]

That's like saying 'Emet didn't need to wave in SoS because we knew he was already dead' like... what

[cinder badger]

@wary perch I don't think the cloak has sleeves on the Paladin AF

[maiden lodge]

Also

[cinder badger]

That robe he has there has sleeves

[maiden lodge]

A robe with sleeves and no mantle is not a cloak with no sleeves with a mantle--they are not, actually, the same outfit.

Or, if it were the same outfit, would it exclude that from being a visual reference using visual language.

[pastel coyote]

Will it be too much to leave the last cutscene of EW with the wol making Emet wave ?

(before answering imagine it with a lala)

[woven escarp]

just remember that we lived

[cinder spindle]

Can we agree that ew isn't a good acronym?

[cinder badger]

Maybe he was wearing the robe in the beginning and then he changed it just like yoshi-p changed his shirt in the middle of the Showcase

[maiden lodge]

'East I thought you meant Weast'

[maiden lodge]

I mean he takes the robe off, that's clear.

The back of the robe doesn't have the sultansworn regalia on it

[somber storm]

Cape

[pastel coyote]

Taking off the robe for zenos

[somber storm]

Derobed

[cinder badger]

That was Sultansworn?

I thought he was French

[maiden lodge]

Sorry. Le sultansworne

[somber storm]

Le baguettesworn

[maiden lodge]

Culinarian is the new poster job confirm

[pastel coyote]

Sorry it don't get my approval to be french

[somber storm]

Needs the fleur de lis to be French

[cinder badger]

If Midgardsomr doesn't show up to fight in this expansion I will be upset

[woven escarp]

midgardsormr is just tired

don't worry about him

[somber storm]

Middy is sleeping

[maiden lodge]

IF EDMONT DOESNT LET US ADOPT THE LEVIELLEUR TWINS

[cinder badger]

This fight is far too important for him to be napping

[somber storm]

Old man needs his rest

[pine epoch]

Florida lee on his paladin cape

[cinder badger]

After all he has a direct connection with Hydaelyn

[woven escarp]

🤔

midgardsormr at full strength would be some shit

VENGEANCE

[cinder badger]

He made a pact with her, and this will be the end of her story.

[drowsy ivy]

Instead of a tankbuster Tail Whip becomes every auto

[pastel coyote]

If the wol want to be french he need at least to get that on his back https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/607349381125111839/807891197292576788/unknown.png

[balmy mesa]

never baguette

[native falcon]

mid joined for omega shit and then was like "im gonna go nap for a thousand years see you never" so we'll see LOL

[cinder badger]

Also with Estinien in our group it would be interesting to see the two interact

[maiden lodge]

'So, Dadmont, you met Alphinaud, and his twin here, they have been disowned by their dad and I kinda think of them as my teenage riot kids and--'

'So they're Fortemps then.'

'Well I was going to ask but--'

'I adopted you. You adopted them. They are Fortemps.'

Alisae: 'Well that's certainly easier to spell than Fourchenaut'

[maiden lodge]

He's sleeping off being dead man he needs his beauty snooze

[native falcon]

LOL

[drowsy ivy]

I wanna Fight Alphinauds dad

[native falcon]

that's fair

grandpa takes a snooze

[maiden lodge]

SAME

[heady shadow]

actually ||he woke up right after Graha left to the first/past||

[native falcon]

but we haven't exactly heard anything since

[balmy mesa]

oh, so he just slept off being dead

[maiden lodge]

It's also implied he was kinda paying attention the whole time

[heady shadow]

ye

he also made fun of omega a little

[maiden lodge]

Although

[balmy mesa]

also don't forget mini-Middy

he's been keeping an eye on us the whole time since KotL

[maiden lodge]

If hydaelyn turns out to be something we have to -deal with- as a problem, maybe... Midgarsormr should sleep this one out

[cinder badger]

Maybe in the expansion after EW we can go to space and find the place Omega came from

[heady shadow]

thats is.... really far away you know?

[balmy mesa]

unlikely, but we might get more clues

[modern steeple]

what's this location in the trailer world map?

[maiden lodge]

I mean we're already going to space

[balmy mesa]

ooh, is dalmasca revealed?

[maiden lodge]

Thavnair I think

[heady shadow]

we dont even know if it's even in the same system as the dragonstar

[maiden lodge]

No wait

Dalmasca, yeah

[native falcon]

thavnair is on the left

[modern steeple]

thavnair is the island on the left

[pastel coyote]

we already have thaivnir

[maiden lodge]

No no, it's Dalmasca

I'm reading it now

[balmy mesa]

ye, thav is to the left, but not sure what will happen with the zones to the north

[modern steeple]

kk

[pastel coyote]

Well given the trailer..... burning i guess ?

[maiden lodge]

Fire, and a short visit

[cinder badger]

Maybe we can finally find Captain basch fon ronsenburg

[heady shadow]

uh

impoissible

[balmy mesa]

maybe the basch street boys

[modern steeple]

1 zone for thavnair, 1 zone for garlemald outskirts, 1 zone for garlemald city ruins, at least 1 zone for moon

[pastel coyote]

well if we get necro maybe

[maiden lodge]

I'm BASCH FON RONSENBURG OF DALMASCA

[pastel coyote]

[serene crest]

Don't listen to Ondore's lies!

[heady shadow]

in ffxiv basch is ||Noah's dad||

[cinder badger]

@maiden lodge I refuse to believe ondore's lies

[somber storm]

Well rabanastre is completely rubble

[serene crest]

Basch lives!

[maiden lodge]

Garlemald is -a- zone

[balmy mesa]

rubblenastre, if anything

[somber storm]

Minus the underground

[pastel coyote]

Yeah they state it: garlemald will be a zone

[balmy mesa]

I suspect garlemald will be like dravanian hinterlands

[maiden lodge]

It's presented in the (major location) underscore (actual zone name) set up

[heady shadow]

they only show thav and the empire. we got four more zones

[pine epoch]

Honestly endwalker is probably going to be like heavensward zone progression

Where theres just a bunch of random points in the same general area minus the moon

[maiden lodge]

I can see an early dip into Garlemald, find out shit's real, gotta go to the moon

[balmy mesa]

then come back early

[cinder badger]

So if we go to the Viera homeland will it be Le HAA instead of La Hee?

[maiden lodge]

Also, another evidence for Sharlayan as big city

[balmy mesa]

go "moon's haunted", grab some power ups

then head back

[balmy mesa]

matoya's relict

[maiden lodge]

The music for the Sage video is the Sharlayan theme from Gubal/Antitower, jazzed up.

[pine epoch]

I dont really hear it

[maiden lodge]

Speed up tempo, kick up a key, change pauses a bit, it's there.

also video is IN Gubal

[cinder badger]

Maybe the sharlayan theme will just be the grand duchy of Jeuno's music remixed for Final Fantasy XIV purposes

[modern steeple]

predictions for pandaemonium bosses?

[somber storm]

Lahee

Lahoo

[pine epoch]

Emperor Mateus

[maiden lodge]

Also Fourchenaut is a -sage-, Alphinaud inherits job, probably, and they were cagey about where Alisae's outfit came from, in a game where Tataru should be an obvious nonspoilery source

[somber storm]

Lahaa

[modern steeple]

P4: emperor from hell (ff2's final boss), emperor from heaven will be the savage exclusive form

[somber storm]

Lahii

[fast rampart]

just lahabrea 12 times

[somber storm]

Labread

[modern steeple]

P8: kuja, necron is the savage only form

[cinder badger]

The final battle theme for EW better be Answers.

[somber storm]

We fight a loaf of bread

[heady shadow]

so I got an Idea.

Alphinaud's dad is a Sage, and decides that Alphy should learn it.
Sage ends up being some forbidden Job that only very few people are allowed to use.

[maiden lodge]

Eden should have taught us that when they say it's not a reference raid that they mean it, and you should not start speculating previous game's bosses..

[pine epoch]

Dis if we wanna take the trailer as fact. 1 zone is in la noscea

[cinder badger]

I close my eyes.
Tell us why do we slumber.

[maiden lodge]

Outer La Noscea isn't going to be a Endwalker zone. They're in the Nym area.

[native falcon]

to be fair they said the alliance raid was original

not much on the normal

[pine epoch]

You say that

But it's always on the cards for eorzea 2

[balmy mesa]

I can see north of idyllshire being a zone

[maiden lodge]

eorzea 3. We've been doign Eorzea 2 for years.

[balmy mesa]

linking to sharlayan somehow

[maiden lodge]

heh watch Sharlayan fucks off to the moon

[cinder badger]

Nym is the only piece of Eorzea lore that I can think of that remains to be unsolved

[maiden lodge]

'What, this is where the empire isn't'

[maiden lodge]

How so?

[heady shadow]

dude

[balmy mesa]

Nym was touched on with SCH job quests

[heady shadow]

would be dope if they had a city on the moon

[maiden lodge]

IT was a maritime state with arcanists summoning faeries as support until Mhach summoned the voidsent Bitoso that inflicted the green plague on them, turning them into tonberries, which we eventually free from their madness, and now actually have a cure for.

[heady shadow]

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[maiden lodge]

There's not a lot of mystery left there

[cinder badger]

We don't know what actually happened to the floating city. We've known what happened to it's people, at least the ones plagued with Green Death

[heady shadow]

the mystery i think would be Gelmmora

[maiden lodge]

Ozma happened.

[balmy mesa]

we also don't know why Mhach decided to do their shit

[pastel coyote]

because they are Mhach

[maiden lodge]

Ascians. Diabolos. Take your pick.

[woven escarp]

mostly ascians

[cinder badger]

@maiden lodge last I checked ozma was speculation the city rip itself out of the ground and took off in order to escape the war

[woven escarp]

"fuck those nymeian nerds, it'll be fun"

[balmy mesa]

the devil is in the details, isn't it

[maiden lodge]

The floating city is IN Ozma.

You see it there when it sucks you in

[native falcon]

i want to see leofard again

[woven escarp]

ozma just ate the whole-ass thing

[pine epoch]

One of my 6.0 jokes is one of the countries in 14 get fucking ripped from the planets surface and attatched to the moon

[balmy mesa]

it's the land of oz... ma

[calm haven]

Moon's Haunted?

[maiden lodge]

Makes sense--I think Nyunkrepf was Nymian

[pine epoch]

Anyone see the similarity of chaos and cosmos to zodiark and hydaelyn. In the amano artwork

[maiden lodge]

He was a sea-bro

[maiden lodge]

Only in that it's similar to Promathia and Altenna, which predates Dissidia

[fast rampart]

did anyone else find it kind of weird in hindsight that we went to dalmasca and fought all those espers but there was no mention of any connection with the ascians and zodiark

[pastel coyote]

no

[native falcon]

it's hard to say how ismilar because big demon and pretty lady are hardly original designs when it comes to representing light and dark

[pine epoch]

But also zodiark do be giving off Amano Necron vibes

[floral wolf]

We go to galemald in 6.0?

[calm haven]

"Garlemald"

[pastel coyote]

Well

[calm haven]

Or what's left of it

[heady shadow]

what I wanna know is.

will..

[cinder badger]

Nym's flotation was likely developed out of a need for defense, due to recurring wars with the mainlanders of Aldenard. Alternatively, it may have been a destructive side effect of the War of the Magi itself, possibly due to the Mhachi superweapon Ozma.

[heady shadow]

a Lavos type being be the one behind the keening

[maiden lodge]

Zodiark looks like he's just having a bad day 'Fuck woman why are you trying to steal my balls'
Hydaelyn: 'i will has them'

[pastel coyote]

Well the tower have a really bio-thing look

[cinder badger]

It says here that Nyms flotation may be a side effect of Ozma but not that Ozma completely swallowed nym

[maiden lodge]

That don't mean nuffin

[balmy mesa]

I'm getting hardcore mhach vibes from them, tbh

[pine epoch]

I like the theory that there was a real will of the star before the ancients made zodiark. And the will actually got pissed at the ancients and yelled at them freaking them out. Like the will is a Great/Old one and it's like the lovecraftian thing of they couldnt comprehend its existence. And zodiark usurped it putting it to sleep.

[balmy mesa]

void ark had a similar design

[pastel coyote]

they mean muffin

[blazing shuttle]

Tower is very mhachi/void sent

[heady shadow]

btw

[maiden lodge]

Zodiark looks legit scared that Hydy's gonna steal his muffin

[heady shadow]

I need to say this about Lavos

[blazing shuttle]

And looks nothing like the between dimension lobby that the villains use

[balmy mesa]

like "get off my lawn, you whippersnappers"

[heady shadow]

in lokan La is fire, and Vos is Big

[blazing shuttle]

Chrysalis is entirely rock candy

[maiden lodge]

Well Endwalker's going to get into the cause of the Final Days according to YP so

[pine epoch]

Idk if it's all lovecraft stories but when the ancient eldritch horror shows its self it causes people to fall deep into insanity

[maiden lodge]

That rarely happens though--it's usually the ideas behind the world being meaningless in the face of cosmic fuckery that brings the madness.

[woven escarp]

yeah

it's the "who even cares anymore, it's all so pointless"

[balmy mesa]

now, the real question is: what will they do past 6.0? will it kind of be like "tales of the dragonsong war" kind of content, or will they refer back to (say) Omega/Midgardsormr's origin stories?

[woven escarp]

well, there's some unresolved issues with dragonstar in general

[blazing shuttle]

Something more coordinated, they said there was a narrative past this saga

[woven escarp]

if hydaelyn is gone, is dragonstar still a threat to the planet?

[blazing shuttle]

So it's gonna be as thorough as this story was

[pine epoch]

But ya I kinda want like more eldritch horror in 14

[maiden lodge]

It's not 'oh shit chthulu im insane now' that it's about it's 'Holy shit, there's aliens and I don't have the headspace to make sense of this because right now, and for the rest of what little life I have left, I am being chased by alien houndbeasts that can get me whenever I am in a room with corners and that doesn't make sense but holy shit this is my life now'

[balmy mesa]

ahhh

Midgardsormr was a denizen on a distant star, known to those on the Source as the Dragonstar, that came to be at war with the inhabitants of another star

[pastel coyote]

Dragonstar isn't a thing anymore

And it's so far away that even Omega couldn't remember how to get there

[balmy mesa]

yeah, everyone got killed

[pine epoch]

I mean that's not the only example

[blazing shuttle]

Eldritch horror if anywhere would happen on the thirteenth

[maiden lodge]

If it's like previous expansions, it'll be a wrapup and character development thing to put context in the story itself

[cinder badger]

What is the one big piece of Eorzean lore we're missing then?

[balmy mesa]

I can't see them sustaining that for 5 patches though

[maiden lodge]

The cause of Crystals of Light.
The cause of the Final Days.

[pine epoch]

Presence of silvertear and what is the primal that haulted the garleans advance into eorzea

[pastel coyote]

for 7.0 ~~they will make the alliance and the horde fight again for no reason because they have no idea what they are doing ~~

[maiden lodge]

Presence of Silver tear

[pastel coyote]

[cinder badger]

@maiden lodge that's more of a Hydaelyn mystery. Not Eorzea

[woven escarp]

didn't they straight up retcon the thing under silvertear as the crystal tower?

[balmy mesa]

Hydaelyn's deal with Middy?

[pine epoch]

No

[pastel coyote]

no

[pine epoch]

They never touched upon the presence

Technically they did

But they didnt

[cinder badger]

Eorzea is the realm within the continent of Aldenard

[balmy mesa]

I bet it's got something to do with the crystal tower, again

smh

[pine epoch]

They changed it that silvertear sits on a lay line. A veritable wellspring of aether

[pastel coyote]

I wouldn't be surprise that silvertear is a way to the lifestream and pandemonium being linked to that

[pine epoch]

That when middy and agrias crashed into the lake a torrent of aether burst forth from the lake

Warping mor dhonna

[fast rampart]

site of the sundering maybe?

[balmy mesa]

much like the antitower is?

[pine epoch]

And flooding eorzea with enough ambient aether primals became common place

[pastel coyote]

dunno

[cinder badger]

Everybody seems to continuously mistake Eorzea for the world.

[native falcon]

in the 1.0 cinematic when the big aether explosion happens at silvertear you see the primals flying out into the world from the blast

[pine epoch]

I mean blame yoshida

[cinder badger]

Eorzea is only the area in and around Aldenard

[pine epoch]

The devs just call 14 eorzea

[cinder badger]

The world is called Hydaelyn

[balmy mesa]

side effect of original development

[pastel coyote]

Well almost everything happen around Eorzea

[pine epoch]

Ye

[balmy mesa]

so, does this mean we'll see a ... Lodaelyn?

[cinder badger]

The burn is not in Eorzea

[balmy mesa]

though it'd require a link between worlds

[cinder badger]

The new world is not Eorzea

[half phoenix]

Because Eorzea is where Amarout was, and it was the largest, densest ancient city in the original world, all that creation magic aether went back into the land.

[balmy mesa]

is it though?

[half phoenix]

Roughly

[spiral wagon]

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[balmy mesa]

like it's entirely possible that amaurot could have been where garlemald is right now, considering its ascian influence

[half phoenix]

No?

[dim sigil]

Given ruins are where limsa would be on the first

No

[native falcon]

considering that hydaelyn is the name of both the mother crystal and the world we live in they likely simplify and call it eorzea to avoid confusion, we all know the whole world isn't eorzea and neither is the first or the other shards lol

[half phoenix]

Remember, Emet also made Allag

[balmy mesa]

I think that was something created by emet though

as an illusion

[half phoenix]

No.

[dim sigil]

No we see actual ruins

[half phoenix]

They mean the actual ruins by the Ondo

[dim sigil]

Yes emet made a city

[balmy mesa]

aaaah, those ruins

[dim sigil]

But theres real ruins there

[pine epoch]

The ff4 reference flood gate was broken with 6.0 trailer

[blazing shuttle]

oh meant to ask, is Dalmasca gonna just fall off the map once 5.5 comes and bozja probably isn't resolved? Think we might see it in 6.0-6.x?

[pine epoch]

I can bet you the four archfiends will be in 6.x trial series

[half phoenix]

Emet just happened to have lot of open space because Tempest is the edge of a coastal shelf

[viral dew]

the ruins do line up with any location

remember

the First is a shattered mirror version of the Source

just like the rest of the other worlds are

[balmy mesa]

bozja is nowhere near dalmasca though

[half phoenix]

Yes but think of how everything actually moves with geography

[viral dew]

pretty sure Thavnair borders Dalmasca

[balmy mesa]

it does

[viral dew]

also

[balmy mesa]

but current maps (east and west) don't really show it well

[viral dew]

those Amaurotian structures

are very far under water

[balmy mesa]

so we'll get a new zone map for sure

[serene crest]

Wrong tag 😅

Thavnair is an island nation near-ish to Dalmasca. Although as far as we can tell, Bozja is closer to Thavnair than Dalmasca is.

[half phoenix]

The Source had a probably magnitude 12+ earthquake, a continent sinking flood, storms that covered the planet, an arguably recent ice age. Did any of the intact shards have any of that? No.

[balmy mesa]

compared to Novrandt

[cinder badger]

This whole area is Eorzea.

[blazing shuttle]

The world map was pretty fucky last time I looked at it so I wasn't really willing to judge it's distances

[half phoenix]

Because the earthquake that originated at the Crystal Tower was devastating areas up to, and probably past, Bozja.

[spiral wagon]

but where exactly is bozja on the world map

[pine epoch]

Dont know

Not revealed yet

[native falcon]

i don't think we know yet

[balmy mesa]

Bozja is assumed to be NE of Gyr Abania

[blazing shuttle]

Really?

[pine epoch]

The Ancient World map

[marble yarrow]

Isnt Bozja closer to Far east?

[pine epoch]

Bozja is in ilsabard near dalmasca

[blazing shuttle]

That would make a boat from the enclave ridiculous

[pine epoch]

But we dont know how close to dalmasca

[serene crest]

Somewhere between Dalmasca and Corvos? But yeah no exact location yet. Although we do know that Gangos overlooks the Corvos Narrow.

[half phoenix]

I though Bozja was along the southern coast since the Thavnairians are in contact for joinIng

[random anvil]

Doma to Bozja is a long-ass boat ride

[cinder badger]

Soo when G'raha brought the Crystal Tower to the first, lets assume it would end up in the same general location that its rooted in the source

[marble yarrow]

we do take an air ship to gangos

[tiny wind]

whats the tp cost to the moon gonna be

[half phoenix]

999

[cinder badger]

That means the center of Norvrandt is also the center of Eorzea

[rain onyx]

Bozja is somewhere around Dalmasca

[marble yarrow]

Lakeland is the First's version of Mor Dhona

[native falcon]

i imagine its somewhere around here

[spiral wagon]

also thats new

[balmy mesa]

might just signify that it's on fire

or is it the purple arrow?

[worldly whale]

what are the locations of all the 5g towers rn?

[native falcon]

big theory is this fell into it

[half phoenix]

Lakeland = Mor Dhona, Il Mheg = Coerthas, Rak’tika = Black Shroud, Amh Araeng = Thanalan, Kholusia = La Noscea

[cinder badger]

Voeburt would be where Ishgard is

Rak'tika is Gridania

[balmy mesa]

there are so many throwbacks to 1.0 with ShB, I swear

[marble yarrow]

There is one in every major area i think, except Coerthas

[cinder badger]

And Amh Arang is Ul'dah

[worldly whale]

no i meant where are they visible from?

[frank raptor]

So if there will be 6 map like usual... Which areas will it be?

Thavnair : 2?
Garlemald : 2?
Dalmasca?
Sharlayan?
Moon: 1?

[unreal wadi]

apparently the crystals in Thavnair are weapons from 1.0?

[balmy mesa]

they could mix it up and provide more maps

[half phoenix]

The spires are in Outer La Noscea, South Shroud, Southern Thanalan, Dravanian Forelands, Lochs, Yanxia. Forgotten where the Coerthas spire is.

[balmy mesa]

but unlikely, lol

[blazing shuttle]

I can't see the Moon having more than one map

[marble yarrow]

ahhh, I would need to double check again

[worldly whale]

thanks

[serene crest]

Giantsgall, yeah. That big crystal thing is where they get the stuff.

[blazing shuttle]

But Sharlayan still seems very out of the way

[cinder badger]

I think....

[balmy mesa]

also remember that they do split zones, mostly

[cinder badger]

We need to go to Limsa and dive into the sea

[half phoenix]

Nah

[balmy mesa]

would be funny if we went garlemald -> moon -> thavnair -> back again

[cinder badger]

And look for any trace of Amourat on the source

[blazing shuttle]

Odds are garlemald would be first

[half phoenix]

There’s nothing down there for us. Not to mention, water combat isn’t a thing

[cinder badger]

I want to find it

[worldly whale]

I somehow feel like sharlayan could be part of 7.0 with the next expansion... idk why I think so

[cinder badger]

That could be the mystery

[marble yarrow]

pretty sure Amaurot's ruins in the source are wiped because of all the calamities occured on the Source

[blazing shuttle]

they usually introduce the small town after (since we'll be stuck there for two years worth of tomes)

[half phoenix]

Also who says the ruins still exist

[native falcon]

obviously we're going to float sharlayan up out of the ground and go on the ilsabard world tour

[fast rampart]

we've gotta be taking estinien's route through thavnair to garlemald right?

[balmy mesa]

they may also decide to rework it so that future expansions can launch off from previous cities

[frank raptor]

Wasnt the thavnair city will be the endgame hub? Its mentioned in stream

[half phoenix]

Because again CONTINENT SPANNING EARTHQUAKES

[worldly whale]

rhalgr's was before kugane tho

[blazing shuttle]

oh shit

nvm

ty for the reminder

[marble yarrow]

Ranz-at-Than is the end game hub pretty sure

[half phoenix]

I hope Radz-At-Han isn’t the tome city...

[frank raptor]

It is

[balmy mesa]

it is

[half phoenix]

No

They just said it was A city

[frank raptor]

They said it. The "small city" for endgame

[half phoenix]

Why show off the one for endgame first?

[random anvil]

they compared it to Eulmore

[balmy mesa]

they did the same, kind of, with Eulmore

[blazing shuttle]

Small City has always been the tome place

[half phoenix]

In size and verticality

[marble yarrow]

I mean, we saw Stormblood's endgame hub quite early as well

[half phoenix]

That the comparison to Eulmore

[frank raptor]

Because iirc yoshi said the big city will be spoiler and i think we got many quest tied there

[blazing shuttle]

-Mor Dhona
-Idyllshire
-Rhalgr's
-Eulmore

[spiral wagon]

looking at the trailer. why does it look like that spot got nuked to hell

[blazing shuttle]

Oh the big city wasn't confirmed?

[native falcon]

i mean it's probably less spoilery to show the thanvarian city instead of like, a hub on the moon or something

[spiral wagon]

that big red spot in the center

[blazing shuttle]

I kinda just inferred it was blown to bits garlemald

[spiral wagon]

with a bunch of chardness

[serene crest]

Might just be a desert

[random anvil]

could be just sand

[spiral wagon]

probably

the rest of the surrounding land masses points its not garlemald

[half phoenix]

You just think they learned from Eulmore not to make the most congested city due to vertically stacking it, the main hub for endgame

[pine epoch]

Yoshida said the entire island of thavnair is 1 whole zone.

[blazing shuttle]

oh

[half phoenix]

Either that, or they just toss tome vendors in both cities

[frank raptor]

We know thats most of major city tied to MSQ, NPC and the "theme" of expansion (ishgard and cystarium, kugane is exceptipn) so i guess it will be spoiler to show the main city?

[balmy mesa]

RIP PS4s

[pine epoch]

Moon is believed to be middle of the story according to dis

[blazing shuttle]

The entire island is one zone?

[spiral wagon]

wait no. it looks like its actually a body of water

[frank raptor]

Rip muh hdd

[worldly whale]

i think the "blades of dark and light" emet mentioned in the narration are zodi and hydi, and their nature as weapons is going to be explored a lot

[half phoenix]

Well Kholusia is 1 zone

[spiral wagon]

same spot

[balmy mesa]

ugh, and they're probably gonna dump a BT in there too

[frank raptor]

I can imagine thanair will be like azim steppe then. The city is on the middle of the zone

[spiral wagon]

waters not red its all purpley

[balmy mesa]

or at least try

[pine epoch]

The matanga are from thavnair

So yes

There already is a beast tribe there

[cinder badger]

@frank raptor Radz at Han is on the south eastern edge of Thavnair. It's a port town

[worldly whale]

really want to get a look at thavnairian glams, a sherwani of fending would be cool. also save kurtas from being just lv1 gear

[pine epoch]

Hummingway were also teased by yoshida joking about bunnies on the moon.

Not explicitly said

[balmy mesa]

namingway's minion description says he's the last of his tribe from the moon

[cinder badger]

@balmy mesa it's a lie

[half phoenix]

We also have tome vendors for each expansion, but ShB in the main cities now. Limsa, Uldah, Gridania for level 50 stuff, Ishgard for level 60 stuff, and Kugane for level 70 stuff. Just need one at Crystarium for level 80, and then one at the other city for level 90

[frank raptor]

Oh.. should be like kholusia then

[worldly whale]

they'll add one in crystarium when 6.0 drops

[balmy mesa]

this?

[half phoenix]

And hopefully the 6.0 one when 6.0 hits too to just get it out of the way

[cinder badger]

The minion description about the Nanamo minion also has inaccuracies about her age does it not?

[half phoenix]

She’s 21

Was 16 in 1.x

[pine epoch]

Not all

But when it comes to namingway/hummingways

There could be multiple tribes

[cinder badger]

This clockwork doll is a reproduction of a model first created in the year of the Calamity to celebrate the tenth anniversary of Nanamo Ul Namo's ascendance to the Ul'dahn throne. Seventeenth in her line, the sultana was crowned when she had seen but five summers.

[pine epoch]

Just like there is multiple beast tribe tribes

Or xaela tribes

[pulsar yacht]

can blame localization for minion/mount descriptions (notably fatter cat compared to non english languages)

[half phoenix]

Summers doesn’t mean years

[marble yarrow]

it usually does though

[half phoenix]

It’s just an easy check of time when no calendars really exist commonly

[worldly whale]

this ain't game of thrones bro

[final isle]

unless it's a world where there's multiple summers per years, it does mean years

[balmy mesa]

winter came

[final isle]

or less than one summer yeah like GoT

[half phoenix]

Because think of it like this: born in spring or winter, after the first summer, it was you’re “first summer”

[balmy mesa]

this is what I reckon

bring on the moon rabbits

[worldly whale]

you can technically do it for anything that happens once a year. "oh he's 33 little ladies' days old""

[pine epoch]

I had a stupid idea for the final dungeon of 6.0. What if the final boss trial happens first. Then the level 90 dungeon. With the 90 dungeon being a Escape sequence as the villains base collapses. With a Weaker eldritchofied version of the final boss guarding the exit. Having the dungeon timer be way more shorter than usual dungeon timers.

[serene crest]

It adds up. Crowned at five, minion was made ten years later, calamity happens, five more years and a couple months give or take, yeah. Nanamo is 21.

[balmy mesa]

would be cool, but probably would overestimate the average talent of the player base
unless it was trust only, somehow

it also probably wouldn't work well with the game engine

[half phoenix]

“Moons” works for months, because well 1 full moon a month normally, but years has no easy track unless you have a calendar or track each day, you just monitor the seasons

[spiral wagon]

on another note: it doesnt look like well be going here anytime soon (as they still have the default city design)

[balmy mesa]

they actively edit the trailers, though

[half phoenix]

And some years, seasons are off by a few weeks

[pine epoch]

It's a bit hard to tell if it's the regular default city design as the buildings look a bit taller. But it has thr same shape as regular city design.

[cedar wadi]

It could be Old Sharlayan is big city tho

[pine epoch]

So its 50/50 until a clearer picture

[balmy mesa]

there were some errors in the reveal trailer that more than likely would be fixed for the full reveal

[pulsar yacht]

it would probably work and make the instance timer an enrage (so basically steal from ff4 the after years) but that would also depend on SE deviating from the order of content and trials (dungeon before milestone trial)

[balmy mesa]

they're experimenting with nonlinear dungeons atm, so it would be possible

[cedar wadi]

Maybe Old Sharlayan is cape canaveral and how we go to the moon

Like in 4, where you get the Lunar Whale in Mysidia

[balmy mesa]

imo, they like to try new stuff in .4 and .5 patches (cough Ghimlyt Dark cough)

[pine epoch]

Inb4 old sharlayan is built ontop of a allagan spaceship and we launch sharlayan to the moon

And it's never seen again on the planet

And sharlayans become permanent residents of the moon

[serene crest]

There’s breathable oxygen up there. They’ll be fine.

[pulsar yacht]

the trailer implied space elevator (which I take as tower of babel) but not sure about the through space part yet (unless we get shot in space ff8 style)

[serene crest]

The logo has a star destroyer though

[cedar wadi]

So the triangle in the logo isn’t a spaceship?

[frank raptor]

Whats is this? Nier automata part4?

[cedar wadi]

Who’s gonna tell him?

[half phoenix]

Nah, the tower in Garlemald is probably the Tower of Babel, and it’d be the staging point for us getting into space

[pine epoch]

You know what game gets me hype for escape sequences

[balmy mesa]

escape from tarkov?

lul

[frank raptor]

Nani?

[pulsar yacht]

inb4 someone at se threw YP an idea for an escape room instance

[marble yarrow]

we are only getting part 3 for YoRHa and if I understood correctly, it's not the final part

[pine epoch]

Metroid series.

[half phoenix]

They already tried marker-less quests. The vast majority just looked up guides XD

[pine epoch]

Metroid, super metroid, Prime 2, zero mission, fusion

[cedar wadi]

Didn’t they remove those recently?

[half phoenix]

The quest? No idea, it was a side quest

[marble yarrow]

Eureka still has them, and i kind of enjoy it, but it can be very annoying

[half phoenix]

I don’t think it even gave anything, just an achievement or something

[cinder badger]

@serene crest actually that was the revised text. The original text said she was crowned at 15

[half phoenix]

I mean more the one in Western Thanalan

[cinder badger]

It was spotted and posted on the forums 6 years ago and the devs responded saying someone had a "brain fart" in translation.

But just proves my point that minion descriptions can mean crap.

[dim sigil]

Oh ya theres the weekly they said is getting added to neir whats up with that

[half phoenix]

The usual

[pulsar yacht]

HW had the weekly unidentified flying object added for proto ultima accessories so I'm guessing that returns

[half phoenix]

“Do the entire series once a week for a reward” quest

[cinder badger]

I'm sure if the moon bunnies get announced a lot of you will flood Yoshi with messages about the minion.

[dim sigil]

Itll be male moom bunnies

[half phoenix]

No

[dim sigil]

Ysah

You cant stop me

[half phoenix]

Male viera won’t happen

[pulsar yacht]

in hw it's just reclear dun scaith so no reason to not just be the 5.5 nier alliance redo

[dim sigil]

Who said veira

Just male moon bunnies

[pulsar yacht]

[hummingway noises intensifies]

[cinder badger]

5 roles now

5 role quests

[somber storm]

Viis

[cinder badger]

Viis exist on the First

They won't be on the moon

[wary perch]

There's only 4 roles

Where's the fifth come from?

[cinder badger]

They're making ranged dps seperate from melee

[balmy mesa]

so, like this?

[gaunt star]

^ This is as close as you get.

[tiny wind]

ppl are still so upset about male viera that im like can you take that rage to real world problems

[cinder badger]

It's been awhile since I've seen that Koji image

[shrewd grove]

which generates more rage, no hats for viera or no males for viera

[balmy mesa]

I mean, I'd like male viera, but the game has more important issues that I'd rather the devs work on

[tiny wind]

yeah its baffling to me

[cinder badger]

"Son don't make me get the belt."

YoshiP: "What's a... belt?"

[tiny wind]

like cant you just move on

belts

[balmy mesa]

to be replaced with chains

like anima

lul

[wet crown]

should replace male viera with necromancer

[pastel coyote]

wait

i have something for you

[tiny wind]

should remove lalas instead of adding male viera

[cinder badger]

@tiny wind no

@tiny wind leave me alone

[tiny wind]

its ok popoto

[pastel coyote]

legit necromancer

[tiny wind]

wtf is that

[wet crown]

it's wrong

[balmy mesa]

a nekomancer?

[pastel coyote]

it's a necromancer

[gaunt star]

Viera but necromancer with saggy abs.

[tiny wind]

man fall is going to be great

[cinder badger]

May will be great so all the speculation on the dps job can stop

[tiny wind]

true

[gaunt star]

We all know it's just Sage but with cleric stance and one funnel for slash.

[strange summit]

Scythe is good

[cinder badger]

ItS a TeMpLaR

[cedar wadi]

It’s gonna be Ascian

[unique verge]

The scythe thing is really getting stupid. It might turn out to be correct, but the logic people are basing it on is fucking stupid.

[tiny wind]

wait really i was thinking its scythe too lmao

[strange summit]

It's because of the t-shirt

[gaunt star]

It's actually just a class where all attacks are kicks.

[cinder badger]

Uh so is the Templar theory?

[cedar wadi]

Monk 2?

[balmy mesa]

so a "Hooligan" class?

[unique verge]

Templar, while also dumb, is at least bsaed on something marginally logical. The logic is stretched to the limit, but it has historical precedence.

[cedar wadi]

I don’t even understand where the templar theory comes from

[tiny wind]

wheres that i solved it pic

[strange summit]

The Templar theory comes from the name of the director of a film on Sex Pistols

[somber storm]

Nah, one of the funnels be a lightsaber

[strange summit]

And the tittle the of film is the filth and the fury

[unique verge]

TL;DR -
There's a name of a movie on the shirt (among other things). The director of that movie has the last name Temple.

And before you think this is stupid

[brittle hedge]

I mean, I'm 99% sure we can rule out a lance using templar. If it was a templar, it would use pretty much the same weapon as dragoons, the same gear and fill the same role. I can't see them doing that.

[balmy mesa]

that's ridiculously convoluted, but I get your point

[unique verge]

He did something similar before

[narrow heron]

He hinted at Samurai with a name before so.

Cause the guy he hinted at was Sam Rai or somethingorther

[deft burrow]

It probably won't be a Templar

[balmy mesa]

Sam Raimi

[unique verge]

He wore a Spiderman shirt. Spiderman -> Sam Raimi -> Samurai

[cedar wadi]

Sam Reimi

[tiny wind]

what if my boy yoshi p is bamboozling us and changing things up

[civic holly]

Wasn't samurai a spiderman shirt

[narrow heron]

Thats the one

[deft burrow]

Its most likely a scythe class

[strange summit]

Samu Raimi

[unique verge]

Now you've fucking done it

You've summoned the mods

[tiny wind]

monkaW

mods

im on the scythe team lets see what its gonna be

[narrow heron]

I just want a hammer

[cinder badger]

But he mentioned Sam Raimi by name. He said he liked the Sam Raimi Spider-Man films

[unique verge]

The scythe team is so much more ridiculous though

[cinder badger]

He said nothing about this documentary or its director

[deft burrow]

Not really, Zenos is literally holding a scythe in the trailer

[untold gull]

is it bad i just realized that with the explore mode, i have a striking dummy at my disposal anywhere i go

[deft burrow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[strange summit]

We saw a bit of something

Not a scythe

[unique verge]

Proof of that or you're full of it

tbh

[deft burrow]

Definitely looks like a scythe

[narrow heron]

Could be a tool he hopes to use to kill Zodiark or something

[wary perch]

It could be a scythe or could be a staff since we didn't the see the blade

[balmy mesa]

he's not, but it's not clear. it looks scythe-ish

[tiny wind]

what if its a giant mochi pounding hammer

[unique verge]

If you're talking about that "behind the throne" picture

[cinder badger]

Yes because Zenos would hold a staff

[unique verge]

You cannot see enough of it to know what it is

[balmy mesa]

it could be a hammer

[deft burrow]

It definitely looks like a scythe

[balmy mesa]

hell, it could be a staff-gun

[unkempt mason]

2 rock band shirts, rock = geomancer, melee geo

[balmy mesa]

or something stupid like that

[narrow heron]

Could be a golfclub

[cinder badger]

It could be his "hammer"

[wary perch]

Look like a mage staff to me though

[deft burrow]

Zenos, using a staff

nah

[balmy mesa]

Zenos playing golf while the world burns? I'm behind that

[narrow heron]

He had the bag for it

[strange summit]

Staff-gun, because nothing says fuck you more than casting a spell while shooting you in the dick

[wary perch]

Still remember that golf club hustle meme

[narrow heron]

But I dont see him switching from katanas tbh. Guy loves the things.

[wary perch]

Dude just step on his katana

[unique verge]

Okay, so

[balmy mesa]

he probably went for a scythe for improved efficiency in wholesale slaughter

[brittle hedge]

Idk- that feels weird for Zenos. He seems to like getting up close and personal in fights. I don't think staffs/guns would give him the same rush.

[balmy mesa]

oh

shit

[wary perch]

He already move on from katana

[balmy mesa]

dervish!

[brittle hedge]

Remember, he got rid of his gunsword in favour of a katana.

[unique verge]

I'm just gonna throw out there that the image that keeps on being used is pretty amazingly bad quality. So i'm going to capture a better one

[wary perch]

Staff can be melee too

[civic holly]

It is like every time scythe is mentioned people forget about Ranjit

[wary perch]

Didn't any of you know shoilin kungfu?

[unique verge]

No we dont

because every fucking five minutes

[balmy mesa]

they could name the class "Dervish", but Guild Wars got there first

[unique verge]

someone reposts the same stupid picture

[deft burrow]

I mean you look at the shirt he had on for the 5.5 showcase

[cinder badger]

Executioner

[deft burrow]

had a reaper with a scythe

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[narrow heron]

When was the last time it was that obvious though

[deft burrow]

true

[balmy mesa]

yoship likes to troll us though, he's genius at keeping us on our toes

[cinder badger]

He wasn't really a boss

[unique verge]

Alright. Here we go

Time to debunk this shit

[deft burrow]

It could just be a complete new type of class

[tiny wind]

time to 5Head

[unique verge]

I took a better screenshot from a better timestamp and zoomed in on it

[tiny wind]

ENHANCE

[balmy mesa]

from the trailer or expansion reveal? trailer has much better quality

[unique verge]

Now, if you look on the left

[gaunt star]

gee I wonder how anyone could see this and think scythe

[pastel coyote]

did you make a 180° too ?

[pine epoch]

Zenos wields a scythe and dresses up like Magus from chrono trigger, and Fandaniel serves the role of queen zeal

[unique verge]

the "head" of that thing is actually part of the throne.

[narrow heron]

If that is a scythe next to Zenos..it looks kinda short to me tbh

[deft burrow]

Its not. @unique verge

[unkempt mason]

hes trolling necromancer people

[deft burrow]

A chair wouldn't be randomly asymmetrical

[balmy mesa]

remember, early trailers have had issues like this, we can only find out for sure in May

[unique verge]

Look at the fucking picture.

It's literally

[deft burrow]

I did, chill

[unique verge]

part of the throne

[deft burrow]

Its not part of the thron

[balmy mesa]

because that item sure looks like it's clipping

[deft burrow]

The reason why it looks like it is, is because of the lighting in the front

[narrow heron]

It's a cup holder.

[deft burrow]

from the fire

[gaunt star]

Yeah I don't think it's part of the throne because there's nothing like it on the other side

[tiny wind]

i still think its a giant mochi pound hammer

[unique verge]

Its either clipping perfectly into the throne with it not coming out the other side for no possible reason.

[empty pine]

Who needs CSI when we have @unique verge

[gaunt star]

also see YoshiP's shirt with an actual scythe on it

[unique verge]

or its not part of a weapon

[balmy mesa]

a more productive use of our speculation time would be to determine what size cupholder

[cinder badger]

I'm just going to watch you guys argue about it because one of you is going to be wrong when he finally reveals the job and it's going to be funny to watch one side just completely implode on themselves

[deft burrow]

They probably did that on purpose

[thin crypt]

imagine if the xpac was Narrated by Elidibus and Emet

[unique verge]

They purposely made it appear to be fused with the throne?

That sounds dumb

[narrow heron]

"I hear dead people"

[deft burrow]

Because it'd spoil what Zenos's new weapon would be

Which is story

[empty pine]

You too? Make sure you have popcorn for this autism show, it's gonna get juicy. THey've already brought their elite photoshop skills :^)

[balmy mesa]

I don't care what happens, I just want to watch the world burn and play as gundam healer, ahahahahaha

[deft burrow]

I seriously doubt Templar though

[cinder badger]

I think all of their guesses are equally stupid and are either over thought or under thought but nobody's actually trying to use the clue as it sits there on his shirt

[brittle hedge]

If its not scythe, I'm personally hoping we get a dual wielding sword class.

[deft burrow]

I did, but apparently people ignore that @cinder badger

Lol

[balmy mesa]

why not swordchucks?

[thin crypt]

you killed so many ascians but in the end you become one of them

[tiny wind]

isnt all this speculating just for the memes or are ppl dead serious

[cinder badger]

People are always serious they want their job to be the winner

[tiny wind]

true that

[unkempt mason]

yea its melee geomancer 🙂

[gaunt star]

Dead srs. Moon housing.

[cinder badger]

I'm probably just going to stick with Red Mage

[deft burrow]

sorry for thinking scythe

:vvvv

[narrow heron]

I'm just speculating for fun. I'll end up maining Blackmage like I always do.

[tiny wind]

imagine

[unique verge]

I have no dog in this fight. And i dont presume to know what the job is, i just know some things about what it is and what it definitely isnt.

[obsidian pagoda]

Melee Geomancer... with nunchaku

[unique verge]

We've pretty much gotten direct confirmation its going on the Maiming armor, which is logical

[deft burrow]

I just have a feeling its scythe but I can be entirely wrong

[unique verge]

So any suggestion of it being a non-heavy-armor job is immediately dumb

[unkempt mason]

2 ROCK band shirts

[cinder badger]

Hey I mentioned that he changed his shirt in the middle of the Showcase which is something he hasn't done before he could have just warned that one shirt the whole time and then pointed it out.

[brittle hedge]

I don't think we will get a rune fencer/mystic knight class this expac however. 😭 I really was hoping for that, but I think if we were getting it, Alisae would have switched into it and they have made it clear she staying as RDM

[deft burrow]

Rune knight? ;)

[tiny wind]

BRD mains rise up

[obsidian pagoda]

This is the kind of reach I'm loving

[untold gull]

outside of this scythe business, i do wonder what the other class changes are gonna be

[deft burrow]

SMN rework

[cinder badger]

But no he went to change one shirt into another shirt which could just as easily have a hidden meaning as anything else anybody's been mentioning

[narrow heron]

Bards need a guitar. BRD rework inc

[tiny wind]

omg

[balmy mesa]

also, what if it's a fish related class and it's all just a red herring?

[somber storm]

2 classes

[untold gull]

well, to be specific, i wonder what they gonna give sam to get more big boi dps

[tiny wind]

as long as they wont return to bow mage im good

[empty pine]

Leave.

[somber storm]

A second sword

[untold gull]

lol

[deft burrow]

kinda sad to see numbers get divided by 5 but

doens't really matter relatively

[untold gull]

then maybe damage is multiplied based on the number of swords used

[obsidian pagoda]

What if you do get a nodachi off hand or some shit for SAM

[brittle hedge]

I wondering what DRG will get. Their kit feels complete to me.

[empty pine]

It would have cost you nothing to write that and you did it anyway, such violence.

[unkempt mason]

its not gonna be the made up reaper class

[deft burrow]

Nidhogg Estinien mode @brittle hedge

;D

[cinder badger]

@brittle hedge a dragon pet

[unique verge]

My guesses based on it being on the Maiming token, and based on what makes logical sense, is that it will be something "similar to a Judge" or "similar to a Legatus". The former being the gabranth style double-ended sword, and the latter being the Garlean gunblade style of fighting that we have seen many many times (Gaius, Fordola, Regula, etc.)

[obsidian pagoda]

I hope it's just an upgrade to an existing skill cause I'm all out of buttons to bind

[brittle hedge]

Probably. I main DRG and my three hotbars are almost full at this point.

[balmy mesa]

stardiver, but to the moon? can only explain why estinien becomes a trust member

[obsidian pagoda]

@unique verge I'm totes down for a 0 Aether class

[tiny wind]

hear me out

the return of TP

[narrow heron]

Estinien got too powerful and jumped to the moon

[deft burrow]

yeah

[unique verge]

I will fucking quit the game.

[obsidian pagoda]

I mean this is pretty much just for the Cecil/Kain references mostly...

[gaunt star]

@unique verge what's your take on how this shirt is a clue to a judge-style job

[untold gull]

[tiny wind]

but the thing is, you won't and we all won't

[balmy mesa]

calm down satan

[unique verge]

If they bring back TP like it used to be yes i fucking will

[brittle hedge]

Idk... I thought about that too, but they gave out all the judge sets in 5.45, so I don't know what a judge class would use as relic armor when all the iconic designs are already used

[untold gull]

dunno, worked last time for me. quit the game. came back, no more TP

[deft burrow]

TP

[obsidian pagoda]

There's still Zargabaath and Ghis' armour design to use

[gaunt star]

And while we're at it, let's bring back the fatigue system.

[tiny wind]

jesus christ

[unique verge]

Bear with me a sec, im looking

[narrow heron]

Bring back archer/bards needing to craft arrows

[pastel coyote]

look all you want, you will find nothing

[balmy mesa]

okay, never mind, you're satan

[narrow heron]

Wonder how Hildabrand will come back

[obsidian pagoda]

Remember people wanted WoW classic back, including this shit system so there is a market for it

[deft burrow]

ew

wtf

[untold gull]

is that a 1.0 thing?

[narrow heron]

Yep, it was a 1.0 thing

[untold gull]

because if so, that does not exist anymore

[deft burrow]

disgusting

I'd rather bowmage

[untold gull]

1.0 isn't something that's ever coming back

[narrow heron]

Needed an arrowhead, wood for the shaft and feathers from monsters to craft if I remember

[tiny wind]

cant believe i got through bowmage

[narrow heron]

was a pain in the butt

[balmy mesa]

I think what a lot of people wanted was some way to replay the story of 1.0, but not have the mechanics from 1.0

[narrow heron]

That I understand. There's a lot of story there.

[deft burrow]

I mean you still have the story in lore

just read

4head

[balmy mesa]

lore is different from actually experiencing it though

[somber storm]

There be sidequests as well

[deft burrow]

it'd be better if they just incorporated a memory type thing like with grampa extreme

of 1.0

[somber storm]

Also 1.0 Hildibrand

[narrow heron]

And Godbert

[balmy mesa]

like NG+ on steroids

[deft burrow]

yeah

[narrow heron]

He of strong and supple fingers.

[gloomy shale]

So how is POTD for the relic ? worth doing or just do DR?

[obsidian pagoda]

Can we be teh one who shoot the Hildy cannon?

[somber storm]

6.0 Hildy cannon

[deft burrow]

imagine doing hilda quests as the world burns in 6.0

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[balmy mesa]

it's perfect.

[pastel coyote]

Imagine having the fucking sky burning everywhere once you hit 6.0 and we get the island with pet only to be able to escape

[gaunt star]

Hildy launches himself to the moon.

And somehow gets eyebrows.

[obsidian pagoda]

We get to the moon by helping Hildy remake his cannon

[somber storm]

https://tenor.com/view/hildibrand-godbert-final-fantasy14-wrestling-suplex-gif-16626729

[balmy mesa]

but then the eyebrows inexplicably don't become available to highlanders, with much salt

[tiny wind]

what a wild ride hildy was

[thin crypt]

6.0 hits and the moon is glowing red and for some reason you hear small bits of "Answers" in the distance

[somber storm]

Greg embiggens himself to stop the moon

Majora's Mask style

[balmy mesa]

ah, the new epic of Gilgamesh

[gaunt star]

Please enjoy 6.1+ content in the next beta: FFXIV: A Realm Renewed due to some unforeseen licensing issue.

[somber storm]

Realm Rental

[shrewd grove]

A Realm Retired

[thin crypt]

i honestly wish they would end it with this xpac and release a new and better vers of this

[unique verge]

Never gonna happen

They're making way too much money currently

[strange summit]

Final Fantasy XIV : RayTracing

[somber storm]

A Realm Revised

[unique verge]

The only way they change to a "new game" is if people start quitting in droves

[gaunt star]

Cancelling FFXIV when.

[somber storm]

When FF19 appears

[dim sigil]

17 will be the next mmi

[somber storm]

The SAO clone mmo

[gusty quest]

Final fantasy XIV: A realm renewed reborn

[somber storm]

Man, imagine playing FF14 with that SAO tech

[dim sigil]

I dont wanna

[balmy mesa]

you know what shits me about max settings, they're already halfway there with fake reflections (especially in Ishgard)

[dim sigil]

Youd have to physically run from aoes

[somber storm]

You brain be running

[balmy mesa]

like here

[gusty quest]

DEAR GOD NOOOOOO

[somber storm]

Your body is just gonna lay in bed

[strange summit]

Ikr, let's hope for something as the ps5 version is released

[balmy mesa]

yes, high definition la noscea

[dim sigil]

Erp would be a bigget deal tho

[strange summit]

Btw, no news from BlueFever ?

[obsidian pagoda]

I think any talks of engine upgrade probs not gonna happen until PS4 support dies

[strange summit]

Dude always hint something

[somber storm]

PS6

[dim sigil]

Ps4 wont go away for a while id think

[obsidian pagoda]

Yeah unfortunately

[dim sigil]

Prob not during 6.0 at all

[unique verge]

Getting rid of PS4 would require people to be able to get their hands on PS5's

[gaunt star]

Blufever clearly got fired as seen by their SB/ShB leaks growing steadily more inaccurate with time

[obsidian pagoda]

But it is the most limiting machine in their list

[dim sigil]

Until i can get a ps5 keep ps4

[strange summit]

He got caught :x

[balmy mesa]

PS4 would do okay, but afaik ShB had memory limitations with Kholusia?