!faq meta
#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
somber storm
cinder badger
I could just launched missiles of Holy Light and it heals anybody nearby
lusty shadowBOT
unborn lantern
!faq u
lusty shadowBOT
restive musk
oh yeah~ Healing by doing dmg...sounds fine~ but i guess we wont get that
unborn lantern
:c
untold gull
lol
maiden lodge
Average groups also don't take WHM because of the healing throughput, they take it because 'GLARE IS BIG DEEPS'
restive musk
D: But well maybe the Sage is doing that
gaunt star
Also more.people playing it =/= being good. Just means more people play it cuz its easier to access
Or its just easier
unborn lantern
!faq u too
lusty shadowBOT
unborn lantern
damn
maiden lodge
But like I said--name me some content where the 'middle 80%' does no damage on healers. ANY content. Any content at all.
woeful dagger
I would definitely say SCH is easier than WHM.
I think most people just prefer the WHM aesthetic.
gaunt star
Depends what level of gameplay you're referring to
tardy ingot
How is sch easier
rain onyx
!faq selfworth
lusty shadowBOT
gaunt star
||No||
unborn lantern
!faq lalafell
lusty shadowBOT
unborn lantern
wtf
cinder badger
Hey if Sage just focused on DPS which passively proced barriers on nearby allied targets I'd try it
somber storm
!faq juicy
lusty shadowBOT
woeful dagger
@rain onyx I love you buddy
unborn lantern
Zenos ass is hairy and sweaty
somber storm
Sage definitely looks like a healer dps
unborn lantern
ewww
gaunt star
If sage focused on dps itd either be whm but shields or... Just a dps
somber storm
Barrier and dps healer
maiden lodge
Depends what level of gameplay you're referring to
That's why I am asking for them to name one. Because I can take a savage to make my point, but we can look at casual content to see the data too, if one likes.
untold gull
green dps* you mean
maiden lodge
24 man? Extremes? Basic bitch dungeons?
gaunt star
Green dps = whm
gaunt star
No
unborn lantern
untold gull
you missed red mage
unborn lantern
whats a red mage
somber storm
But power ranger mages
unborn lantern
TYRODACTL!
untold gull
maiden lodge
whats a red mage
a mage when you embarass them in front of their crush
cinder badger
I want the gold mage
gaunt star
Catch me buffing the SGE so i can suck out their DPS
woeful dagger
the Power Magers
gaunt star
Its mine now
unborn lantern
I still dont know how they pee in those
tardy ingot
They dont
gaunt star
unborn lantern
imagine them peeing inside
gaunt star
Stop
unreal wadi
It's time to stop
maiden lodge
I still dont know how they pee in those
This is the first time, outside of Dune, and diapers, where the ability to pee in an outfit has been a concern.
Most of us don't pee our pants.
unreal wadi
maiden lodge
gaunt star
unborn lantern
gaunt star
Paladin?
outer fable
The expansion's iconic is Paladin?
gaunt star
Yes
outer fable
I feel like there's a metaphor in there somewhere
unborn lantern
WoL wearing capes
gaunt star
Dark become Good
outer fable
Dark become Good
Basically
gaunt star
Yes
somber storm
PLD be the only class that we know getting capes
unborn lantern
The audacity to add capes in the trailer
outer fable
It's literally just
unborn lantern
they can't even put physics on capes in-game
outer fable
Gun
gaunt star
Who plans to main Sage?
Like 40% of the poplace
50% will be maining the new melee
And 10% CBA
onyx sundial
people will just revert back to their old jobs
outer fable
Fair nough
tardy ingot
Needta see more of the class first. Aesthetics alone aren't enough for me.
gaunt star
I wanna try sage and if i like it I'll play it
gaunt star
Either way i want all my healers maxed so I'll be playing them
outer fable
Are they reworking ASt again?
unborn lantern
seems so
outer fable
good gods man
rare sinew
I swear to god, if they simplify SMN any further
outer fable
Ah
brisk quail
Nocturnal sect will un-exist
rare sinew
Imma smack a bitch
wary perch
They might remove shield stance
outer fable
so it's a pure healer now?
brisk quail
Yep
outer fable
Okay
brisk quail
2 barrier 2 pure
outer fable
so we'll have two barriers
gaunt star
Yea
brisk quail
That's how they wanna balance
gaunt star
Sch 0.5 and Sch 1.0
wary perch
Sage is dps go healer
gaunt star
unborn lantern
6.0 is the day ffxiv will die.
wary perch
lol
gaunt star
Watch them give sage 3 damage spells
wary perch
Just like war is dps go tank
gaunt star
No
outer fable
6.0 is the day ffxiv will die.
Highly fu**in doubt
oak pike
GNB is just tank with a lot of weaves
reef glacier
I found a good recreation of the trailer music. Is it okay to post links here?
gaunt star
.... Theres... Theres 4?
outer fable
there are four tanks...
gaunt star
Ya links are fine
unborn lantern
wot
rare sinew
There are 4 tanks
reef glacier
gaunt star
Yana are you okay
woeful dagger
We don't know yet
outer fable
PLD, WAR, DRK, GNB
unborn lantern
War's a dps
woeful dagger
The only thing we do know is they talked about the market so we can assume you can use the MB.
unborn lantern
fuck him
unborn lantern
yessir
outer fable
Pfft
outer fable
Aw that's mean
woeful dagger
But if you can use the MB I don't see why you couldn't queue as a party. At least, it would be super silly to implement Data Center Travel and not have it fix the raiding scene for NA/EU.
gaunt star
...wait
gaunt star
Did they allow MB in cross DC
somber storm
Estinien is just angry
gaunt star
I really thought they'd block market boards
woeful dagger
Did they allow MB in cross DC
In cross-server yes. And Yoshi-P talked about marketboards when discussing the Cross-DC.
So there is an assumption you can.
outer fable
swear, if they somehow make necro a melee dps
somber storm
They may block marketboards in cross data centers
gaunt star
Ik he talked about it but i couldnt tell if he was saying yes or no
outer fable
i will eat a whole escargot
woeful dagger
The question was "would cross-DC mess up the marketboard economies" and his response was "people said that about cross-server and nothing really changed, so we don't expect cross-DC would either"
Which heavily hints cross-DC can use MB
unborn lantern
I wonder what the new dps weapon will be
outer fable
Reaper tho maybe
Ehhh, that's basically melee necro
somber storm
Nah
unborn lantern
no?
:c
woeful dagger
It's more that the rampant botting keeps prices low regardless.
outer fable
Oo, that does sound interesting
gaunt star
Ehhh, that's basically melee necro
I mean. It'd have a scythe instead and wouldnt summon dead bodies so would it really
outer fable
But it might just be scythes
oak pike
im thinking just scythes with stylish moves
gaunt star
They wont call it reaper maybe, but it looks like zenos has a scythe
So its probably a garlean job
woeful dagger
Reaper would just be Samurai but scythes. death magic is banned afaik in-lore.
unborn lantern
it won't be reapers
gaunt star
No
unborn lantern
I still don't know why they need books, they should have memorized everything in there by now.
gaunt star
True
unborn lantern
Stupid scholars
somber storm
Dual swords pls
unreal wadi
There's a scythe skin
Yeah, Edda's scythe
gaunt star
Hurts you
somber storm
Double swords
unborn lantern
somber storm
Split blades
unreal wadi
i wanna know
woeful dagger
Pretty much. Which is why cross-DC MBs wouldn't do anything.
woeful dagger
People already don't do world visit to get the cheapest item on MBs anyways lol
Most people too lazy to do that
unreal wadi
People already don't do world visit to get the cheapest item on MBs anyways lol
Ehhhhh
woeful dagger
Found one
unborn lantern
I'm still shocked why a melee dps, since we had enough of that already
woeful dagger
gaunt star
Sage melee dps confirmed
unreal wadi
I'm still shocked why a melee dps, since we had enough of that already
It better be a good melee DPS
that makes me stop playing SAM
unreal wadi
Monk is faster
somber storm
Gib dual sworxs
kindred meteor
SAM feels like ass imo
unborn lantern
onyx sundial
Sam feels good tbh
onyx sundial
Ramged
oak pike
SAM is eh boring to me tbh
unborn lantern
yes it is
acoustic sail
oak pike
hopefully theres a moon rover mount
unborn lantern
because I like Vergil
tired oak
will they give PLD res?
unborn lantern
oak pike
paladins is getting a shield swipe now
tired oak
if they did it PLD will be clutch king
wary perch
Pld Res is thing back in arr
unborn lantern
PLD is best healer
somber storm
I need more sword classes
fast rampart
give PLD a gun
unborn lantern
they gonna remove belts, they gonna make it a weapon for new dps
will hit harder than my mom
tired oak
somber storm
Choke you out
unborn lantern
gaunt star
Reqqing clemency
oak pike
PLD invuln is my least favorite
gaunt star
gaunt star
^
tired oak
oof
unborn lantern
gaunt star
This is true
tired oak
i'm thinking that PLD armor we see in trailer will be a lvl 90 job gear
gaunt star
Living dead is the stupidest invuln hands down
Yes it will
Maybe they'll tweak it a bit, but it should be the 90 AF Gear
spiral wagon
Living dead is the stupidest invuln hands down
hows so?
unborn lantern
I thought GNB was
unborn lantern
i always panic when they use invul
gaunt star
Ppl say holmgang sucks but 1) its 4m and shortest cd 2) at least you dont have a minigame built into it
No
somber storm
1 hp
gaunt star
Drk has to be healed back to full hp
Equivalent to 100% of their hp*
spiral wagon
DRK and WHM obviously goes together
gaunt star
Gnb just puts themselves at 1 and has invulnerability to all damage
Which is pretty good
WHM goes with all the invulns except pld
who tf says holmgang sucks 🤔
People say holmgang sucks regularly
tired oak
you are a tank anyway you need to stick to the mob/boss
gaunt star
Holmgang is the best invuln
tired oak
it's not suck
gaunt star
WAR > GNB > PLD > DRK
open verge
Pld is what 7 minutes
tired oak
PLD have a long ass cd
open verge
And warrior invuln works for all the necessary things right
gaunt star
That sure is a hot take
tired oak
but it's the most simple
open verge
They gonna give Astro straight up benediction
gaunt star
You can invuln all 4 busters in 9 and 10
gaunt star
They get outshone by the other tanks in 11 though
unborn lantern
glossy vale
I want a tank class that doesn't die
Paladin...?
open verge
Every job dps
open verge
Drk
unborn lantern
HOW DARE YOU
glossy vale
That's the closest I can think of with the low DPS and can't die mechanic
gaunt star
pld low dps 🤔
unborn lantern
pld have raid buff tho
gaunt star
Pld and GNB can fuck off to the wrong place and not take a damage down so the other tank doesnt need to pull the boss around
And DRK doesn't have to invuln at all
Pld does not have raid buff
What
Wait ur trolling nvm
unborn lantern
yes
gaunt star
I got jebaited again
gaunt star
unborn lantern
vergin
glossy vale
Huh
Kept being told that Warrior was up there with Gunbreaker for DPS
Well, below Gunbreaker but above Dark Knight and the likes
I could very well, and more than likely, be incorrect
unborn lantern
I bet the reason he only have one wing is because he got hungry and deep fried the other one
gaunt star
PLD/GNB are top two
And i think DRK/WAR flip flop
At the bottom
DRK was lowest IIRC
glossy vale
Huh
Honestly did not know that
Thanks, though, for not blowing up when I get my information lies faulty
Not all FF games are the same with such
Well, was leveling up Paladin anyways
Only abstained from him because of the damage rumors
rain onyx
All 4 tanks are super close in damage anyways
wary perch
New job
glossy vale
I bet the reason he only have one wing is because he got hungry and deep fried t...
Can't blame him
That's an entire full course meal
unborn lantern
Sephiroth must had been bullied in school for having only one wing
unborn lantern
he so angwy
rain onyx
We’re talking like a 5% difference from highest tank to lowest tank
gaunt star
Paladin is gonna be new expac poster kid anyway so more ppl are gonna pick it up
but this tier drk gets bonked by killtimes so probably won't be in many speedkills
Thought it was 2%?
rain onyx
2-4% depending on what percentile you look at
gaunt star
I see
glossy vale
Speaking from an unbiased standpoint...
tired oak
I think new melee dps will be necromancer with scythe
unborn lantern
..
tired oak
unborn lantern
new melee dps will be a..
dim sigil
Positionals
open verge
Jesus Christ
Will the next melee not have positionals
I think it will have very few positionals smh
dim sigil
At least 3
unborn lantern
Iron Man
dim sigil
Remove postinals for all jobs but monk
tired oak
what if new melee dps are actually dealing magic damage
open verge
Positionals on melee are fun
open verge
Who wants to stand still on melee
wary perch
It won't be necromancer but deathsycthe
eager mica
It will have positionals, but they'll all be in front
open verge
If you do go play tank
open verge
!action trick attack
merry osprey
front positionals
lusty shadowBOT
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open verge
Frontal positional
Wtf
No it was sneak attack that had a front positional
It’s no longer in the game and I don’t know if it was used
eager mica
I want it to be a shotgunner, tbh. We have a gun ranged dps, a gun tank, a gun healer
woven escarp
sneak attack was pretty useless since you still needed to use hide
and there was never a time where you'd be in front of an enemy unless you were solo and initiating a fight
eager mica
Let's get a melee gun dps
worn bloom
Is it possible that a scythe wielding job won't have a name needlessly edgy?
merry osprey
aethersaber
unborn lantern
allagan lightsaber
worn bloom
I can dig it.
unborn lantern
or that
wary perch
Light scythe
unborn lantern
..
eager mica
You could have a farmer.
merry osprey
farmer dps?
worn bloom
Oh the days of 1.0 where gatherers could throw rocks at monsters.
desert heath
wary perch
Melee DPS, botanist and farmer
merry osprey
and a pitchfork
eager mica
Perfect
wary perch
If only we can glamour dol and doh gear
unborn lantern
or new melee dps uses chancla
desert heath
LETS GO
unborn lantern
with instant kill
merry osprey
looooool chancla yes
desert heath
actually kind of salty
they didnt talk about the 2nd job coming
and only sage
like
unborn lantern
plot twist
they just say that for hype
they havent actually thought
of what it is yet
merry osprey
but actually its only sage
wary perch
It's always staggered
desert heath
Meh.
It better be like some god tier class.
that being said
I think the new melee job is gonna be a greedy job
worn bloom
I really hope their healer design changes. Because well playing a healer in ShB was pretty miserable.
eager mica
I don't know what could be cooler than a healer with Gundam lasers.
oak pike
but like SAM is the greed job
worn bloom
I only stuck with AST because I was into it's aesthetic.
desert heath
Well you dont need more melee jobs giving out Raid Buffs
unborn lantern
lightsabeeer
worn bloom
Is there a job that lacks laser beams?
oak pike
90 second rotation 
open verge
Is there a job that lacks laser beams?
Warrior
desert heath
Or
desert heath
It could be hear me out
open verge
It’s all smacking around with a weapon
maiden lodge
tin foil hat
desert heath
A Samurai that dual wields swords instead of one
oak pike
WAR is just brute strength
maiden lodge
What if BLM gets a cat pet?
desert heath
Or its a witcher esque class
unborn lantern
No.
open verge
A Samurai that dual wields swords instead of one
Ninja
trail hare
Gib mystic knight
oak pike
rune fencer would be pog
worn bloom
Rune Knight would be cool.
open verge
Rune fencer please
worn bloom
^
gaunt star
Necromancer please.
desert heath
Those are daggers
open verge
Yes they are
desert heath
Daggers
open verge
No
trail hare
How is rune fencer different than mystic knight
desert heath
yes
worn bloom
I believe Necromancer was outright denied.
open verge
There Is definitely sword ninja weapons
maiden lodge
How is rune fencer different than mystic knight
Both are the same job name in Japanese.
desert heath
Yeah and i dont trust a single ninja using swords
open verge
They name dropped necromancerdo it’s not it
trail hare
Oh ok
desert heath
talk about drag
trail hare
I like the name mystic knight better and the fencing part is already rdm so I doubt they would use that name
open verge
The fact that they were joking about necromancer tells me it’s not it
trail hare
But I just want spellblade class
worn bloom
Necromancer isn't something that I've seen associated with FF tbh.
maiden lodge
I like the name mystic knight better and the fencing part is already rdm so I do...
ANother name for that job is Temple Knight/Templar.
desert heath
Necromancer isn't melee
maiden lodge
And I can totally see that.
fast rampart
there are already temple knights though
desert heath
They said most of the predictions were pretty wrong
maiden lodge
there are already temple knights though
There's temple knights, and Temple Knights.
worn bloom
I get the feeling they put in red herrings everywhere.
desert heath
You see Hyperconductive Kannagi much better
worn bloom
The subvert those predictions.
maiden lodge
'Ishgard has astrologians there can't be Astrologians'
oak pike
worn bloom
Chemist was a popular prediction and it wouldn't be too far out there.
desert heath
AST getting a rework to pure Healer will be interesting
open verge
maiden lodge
^
open verge
Templar is a type of runefencer right?
maiden lodge
Templar is a type of runefencer right?
Yep.
worn bloom
That seems a bit out there.
worn bloom
Like Illuminati confirmed out there.
open verge
You new?
desert heath
Yo
maiden lodge
That seems a bit out there.
On a scale from 'man with the golden gun' to 'sam raimi = samurai' how out there is it really?
open verge
Because that’s exactly how samurai was predicted
gaunt star
Why do people keep saying templar except not named templar when the only possible clue to templar is the name
worn bloom
I mean I won't discount it.
open verge
Sam reimi bra
maiden lodge
Why do people keep saying templar except not named templar when the only possibl...
Because Temple Knight and Templar are literally existing FF jobs.
open verge
They don’t?
unborn lantern
they do
worn bloom
Templar is yeah.
gaunt star
I think u misread what I said
worn bloom
It's definitely possible.
desert heath
YoshiP should've walked out on stage with a hat on and connected to the hat. was bunny ears, the Community wouldve lost it's shit
gaunt star
Templar/Temple Knight are possibilities because of the troll logic with the name
fast rampart
i'm only saying that adding a "Temple Knight" class would beg some questions about ishgard's military
gaunt star
But something that's basically Templar but called something without temple in the name is not
open verge
Templar’s have never used a scythe tho right
unborn lantern
need slider on these instead of breast sliders
maiden lodge
Templar/Temple Knight are possibilities because of the troll logic with the name
Again, on a scale from 'man with the golden gun (machinist)' to 'Sam Raimi = Samurai' HOW troll is the logic?
unborn lantern
maiden lodge
Templar’s have never used a scythe tho right
Sage's never used Nuoliths, your point is not strong
oak pike
if sam raimi can be samurai then fuck it i believe Templar
gaunt star
y u gettin aggro on me
open verge
Sage's never used Nuoliths, your point is not strong
I know I was going to say that
Just calm down
gaunt star
idk what ur even trying to say
open verge
maiden lodge
I know I was going to say that
eheheh
desert heath
Templar's would be cool
cinder badger
@maiden lodge that's because they're Nu
open verge
I was just wonder how odd it would look
trail hare
Its either that or reaper
maiden lodge
Tthe thing with 'scythes'
trail hare
Imo
maiden lodge
Someone posted battle scythe
worn bloom
WoL is already a reaper.
open verge
If Templar’s are heavy armor like paladins it would be lame
So don’t make them look like paladins
worn bloom
Our bodies are weapons and all fall before us.
desert heath
jk my templar will be a slut
open verge
Simple
cinder badger
NEWoliths
maiden lodge
This is what a battle scythe looks like right
maiden lodge
Slashing not poking, so not the same as a dragoon
This is a japanese temple knight
A sohei.
austere bear
Have we seen Daemons in the ffxiv?
fast rampart
historically they were pokers repurposed from peasants' tools for conscripts
maiden lodge
Tell me that wouldn't make a badass spell blade
unborn lantern
new dps class is a fortnite character
open verge
I want to see the ranjit fight with the scythe
unborn lantern
balmy mesa
oh yeah Hildebrand will be back
maiden lodge
Oh yeah, also Seat of Sacrifice uses spell blade stuff, Fate Walker also (based on ran'jit)
frank raptor
Can anyone tell me where does "yoshi t shirt leaks" came from? (The origin)
Also, does the shirt always 100% indicate the job that will be released?
balmy mesa
ngl, that's badass
open verge
I wonder how a scythe would animate
open verge
Could look pretty lame
maiden lodge
Can anyone tell me where does "yoshi t shirt leaks" came from? (The origin)
Als...
'Man with the Golden Gun' and 'Batman' tshirts actually teasing jobs. He called attention to it, and he's done it every expansion except Shadowbringers.
Sam Raimi for Samurai, SCarlet Witch for Red Mage
austere bear
he job changed though
balmy mesa
Could look pretty lame
default standing/idle position could be standard lalafell neck height though
unborn lantern
Beastmaster/Monk hybrid
gaunt star
Worth noting his shirt was a teaser for shb but for a race rather than a job
serene crest
His shirt for ShB was a racing shirt with Bugs Bunny on it.
unborn lantern
eh, Ran'jit is a Pteroslave
maiden lodge
Can anyone tell me where does "yoshi t shirt leaks" came from? (The origin)
Als...
Then during Endwalker, he literally took OFF his shirt during the second play of the Sage video during the 'job preview' section
And called attention to it
austere bear
and he wore a second skelly shirt in the LL
balmy mesa
and koji was wearing a dragoon shirt
maiden lodge
and koji was wearing a dragoon shirt
If by 'dragoon' you mean 'sin eater'
wary perch
The way I see it, it's a deathscythe job than a necromancer
woven escarp
it's not necromancer
wary perch
Since necromancy is forbidden in the lore
gaunt star
for the 6.0 stuff his shirt was drg
woven escarp
can we pin "it's not necromancer" to this channel
maiden lodge
'it's not a necromancer it's dark knight 2.0' It's not dark knight 2.0
cinder badger
@wary perch so was black magic
maiden lodge
Necromancy's specifically said they won't do
frank raptor
'Man with the Golden Gun' and 'Batman' tshirts actually teasing jobs. He called...
Man with the golden gun is mch right? Thats on HW reveal?
But i cant take the batman hint. Is this on SB and what job actualy "batman" is? Rdm?
maiden lodge
Man with the golden gun is mch right? Thats on HW reveal?
But i cant take the b...
Batman? The Dark Knight?
austere bear
lmao
cinder badger
@wary perch incorrect
maiden lodge
BLM is 'illegal' but necromancy is a totally different thing
They aren't excluding it for being illegal, they exclude it for being a villain job.
balmy mesa
If by 'dragoon' you mean 'sin eater'
this shirt
maiden lodge
this shirt
That's Estinien.
austere bear
thats a sick ass shirt
frank raptor
Batman? The Dark Knight?
Oh rightt. I never think about it ._.
How about SB? Does he give hints too? (Since you say only ShB doent have job tshirt hint)
maiden lodge
It is a sick shirt
austere bear
i want it
maiden lodge
Oh rightt. I never think about it ._.
How about SB? Does he give hints too? (Si...
Scarlet Witch shirt for Red Mage
glossy vale
Not even Dragoon
maiden lodge
Sam Raimi shirt for Samurai
woven escarp
necromancy is Super Banned in FFXIV's lore, but like, it's also a classically evil job so there's no way SE will ever allow players to use it
glossy vale
You just look brooding in the distance with the same pose always
woven escarp
especially with the CN/KR clients
maiden lodge
especially with the CN/KR clients
THIS.
cinder badger
@wary perch thaumaturgy was the only acceptable form black magic was barred because it and white magic led to the war of the Magi and the sixth umbral calamity
woven escarp
what the fuck do those clients get when everyone else is summoning spooky skeletons
empty scaffold
this shirt
patent stone
balmy mesa
That's Estinien.
mm, yeah - just the pose is so iconic
it was later confirmed that the melee DPS would be wearing maiming gear, so I assumed that's what it was referring to - shirt tag teaming
austere bear
its funny cause yoship wears skelly tshirts though
maiden lodge
mm, yeah - just the pose is so iconic
it was later confirmed that the melee DPS ...
Good eye.
woven escarp
I mean, a maiming dps is inevitable since drg needs some kind of competition for drops
maiden lodge
its funny cause yoship wears skelly tshirts though
Yeah I think the Children of Bodom shirt is one he's worn before
woven escarp
but also consider that scythes aren't an option because of botanist, or SE would have given them to drk in 3.0
maiden lodge
I mean, a maiming dps is inevitable since drg needs some kind of competition for...
(not that drop competition exists any more)
primal basalt
maybe yoshi's just trolling us
maiden lodge
but also consider that scythes aren't an option because of botanist, or SE would...
Battle Scythes are fine.
austere bear
this melee class is probably the closest to necro you can get
balmy mesa
maybe yoshi's just trolling us
yeah he's known for doing that...
gaunt star
Monkey's paw: new melee uses maiming gear but scales really well with sks so you need a completely different gearset for it anyway
cinder badger
Then literally a transmog skin you can buy on the store that turns your two handed weapon into a scythe
austere bear
Though im assuming its nothing but melee dots and stuff
patent stone
It might not be a scythe in traditional sense, could be a scythe like weapon
maiden lodge
Monkey's paw: new melee uses maiming gear but scales really well with sks so you...
So BLM vs RDM/SMN then
gaunt star
Gonna pull a sage and make an existing class with a unique weapon
cinder badger
I don't think they're afraid of turning the scythe into an actual weapon
austere bear
they turn a cards and a globe into a weapon
wary perch
@cinder badger that's different from necromancy
You have the whole alchemist quest and potd that tell you that wol and others are against necromancy
iron valve
There’s already a Scythe model on the store for DRK and war
fast rampart
and blm
austere bear
so what. theres a katana model for drk
frank raptor
Sam Raimi shirt for Samurai
Alrght i'm dumb..
Em, Sam Raimi clue is the "SAM" part right?
What part of scarlet witch give clue about rdm?
I also read about spiderman shirt @_@
primal basalt
scarlet? red?
gaunt star
Scarlet witch is literally red mage fed through a thesaurus
woven escarp
what the hell
maiden lodge
Alrght i'm dumb..
Em, Sam Raimi clue is the "SAM" part right?
What part of sc...
Scarlet. Witch.
Scarlet. Red.
Witch. Mage.
austere bear
lmao
balmy mesa
didn't yoship make a comment about the shirts during the reveal of sage?
austere bear
yes
frank raptor
Thats one way to give a hint 😂 sasuga yoshida.
worn bloom
I feel we'd be more like Edda if necromancer was something we can be ;x
balmy mesa
yea
maiden lodge
didn't yoship make a comment about the shirts during the reveal of sage?
'I was hot'
reads commets
"Necromancer?"
frank raptor
didn't yoship make a comment about the shirts during the reveal of sage?
I think Soken also tease yoshi shirt at 5.5 LL
worn bloom
I'd dig it
unborn lantern
you heard it from me first
cinder badger
People were trying to guess what the other job was going to be and he pointed out his no comment shirt and said "no comment"
maiden lodge
I think I know what the new dps is.. hear me out
When he comes out with a metallica shirt, maybe.
unborn lantern
austere bear
im assuming zenos will showcase the new job. but thats just me.
worn bloom
Though it seems like XIV hates pet jobs in general.
maiden lodge
People were trying to guess what the other job was going to be and he pointed ou...
And then he changed his shirt
frank raptor
Scarlet. Witch.
Scarlet. Red.
Witch. Mage.
Btw thanks for your explanation
urban turret
You know. If there isn’t ANY alternate dialogue or anything if you’ve done anima weapon I’ll be mad
cinder badger
Yes but both shirts have a connecting theme
woven escarp
pet jobs suck in XIV because of the interface
urban turret
Character assassination of my child.
wary perch
Which part in the trailer that show the scythe?
primal basalt
tellah?
austere bear
yea
cinder badger
Rock & Roll Metal Punk
worn bloom
Yeah
balmy mesa
it's a reworking
maiden lodge
Which part in the trailer that show the scythe?
People are saying Zenos's throne but it's.... eh
cinder badger
Whatever the job is going to be it's going to be vicious brutal
austere bear
i just want a sick ass scarf and im happy
wary perch
Yea but it's nothing there though
austere bear
im disapointed that ninja doesnt have many
cinder badger
It would only be further prove in by the fact it's going to be wearing the "Maiming" sets
worn bloom
Hear me out, a magic scarf that attacks stuff.
pastel coyote
What if it's a job with a blade..... and a scythe ? https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2d/9f/d9/2d9fd935ebd50baa6f0a3a1816a87181.gif
gaunt star
Everyone's making a big deal out of reaper visuals on a shirt and a supposed scythe in front of zenos' throne when the cam zooms from behind
fast rampart
i think there's better evidence for a scythe user than the thing on zenos' throne
austere bear
zenos got out of his weeb phase
balmy mesa
could be the opposite of a red mage really
balmy mesa
do 90% of the melee stuff, but jump back and do spells
worn bloom
Zenos went from a weeb phase to a pointlessly edgy phase?
wary perch
Can I have the pic of the part in the trailer?
balmy mesa
maiden lodge
do 90% of the melee stuff, but jump back and do spells
Ninja.
austere bear
yea it looks like a scythe handle
maiden lodge
Ninja already covering the 'melee with ranged magic' niche
cinder badger
Whatever it's going to be it's going to be edgy and brutal. I'm not saying it's going to be necromancer
balmy mesa
ah yeah I forgot about that, lol
worn bloom
Not seeing the scythe tbh
balmy mesa
could be a hammer
pastel coyote
or maybe zenos just switch to miner 
cinder badger
But people are really stretching it trying to draw the connection to Templar
fast rampart
m e l e e b a r d
balmy mesa
Zenos can be pretty blunt at times tbh
gaunt star
Between the left spike and the back of the throne
maiden lodge
But people are really stretching it trying to draw the connection to Templar
It's a shirt referring to a documentary by Julien Temple
worn bloom
Zenos is that nuisance who insists he's your archnemesis.
wary perch
@balmy mesa that's a building Infront of the tower
dawn totem
all 3 shirts point towards Necromancer-esque job
cinder badger
The filth and the Fury is the commonly used slogan of neighborhood
austere bear
no towowo, he just wants to be your friend
cinder badger
Just because you happen to find a documentary with the same title doesn't mean shit
austere bear
and can only hang out by fighting to the death
pastel coyote
no ?
worn bloom
If he really wanted to be my friend he should have stayed dead ;x
balmy mesa
or is it youtube BS again
austere bear
you are the only thing that keeps him alive
when we died on the exarchs timeline he probably killed himself
balmy mesa
<@114890923166531594> that's a building Infront of the tower
you sure? (better quality pic here)
austere bear
inb4 mass ruby cosplays
pastel coyote
naaaah
maiden lodge
inb4 mass ruby cosplays
like that isn't already a thing
austere bear
now they have a better excuse
worn bloom
It is possible that the thing that looks like a scythe is just simply part of his new character design.
balmy mesa
he made a comment in the last patch that his katana just... wasn't doing the job anymore
maiden lodge
I mean... a gunscythe? gun--sex pistols documentary; scythe--children of bodom follow the reaper
wary perch
@balmy mesa ok could be a scythe but also could be a staff lol
cinder badger
Consider this as well his Clues don't always have to be elaborate
maiden lodge
A weapon a garlean can use as well
cinder badger
Bugs Bunny shirt
pastel coyote
balmy mesa
Consider this as well his Clues don't always have to be elaborate
I think he enjoys it when everyone overthinks it
maiden lodge
Consider this as well his Clues don't always have to be elaborate
It's not going to be fn necromancer
austere bear
doesnt she mainly use a rifle
pastel coyote
the scythe is a rifle
cinder badger
I never said it's going to be necromancer
austere bear
also have a catchy song
balmy mesa
templar's normally sword/shield isn't it?
cinder badger
But he could very well use a scythe
austere bear
if so, whats the lore?
maiden lodge
templar's normally sword/shield isn't it?
Just like Warrior is 😉
cinder badger
Also consider this
austere bear
are we gonna learn from ascians?
worn bloom
I really wanted a BST but if they were ever going to make such a thing it'd probably be limited.
austere bear
ascian job trainer
cinder badger
Yoshi has said in the past that he wants to make a job that is completely original and exclusive to Final Fantasy XIV
austere bear
that be a thing
frank raptor
Some people said gunbreaker alrrady xiv original job? Is that true?
austere bear
yes
balmy mesa
so reaper could theoretically fit that niche - scythe wielder (no reference to necromancy), but definitely a lot of reference to death
cinder badger
No gun breaker is based on Squall leonhart from Final Fantasy 8
gaunt star
How soon did he wear the batman and scarlet witch shirt to class reveal?
hasty totem
maiden lodge
if so, whats the lore?
'A warrior group from _____ arrives in eorzea with problems we can solve. They serve at the Shrine of <insert underrepresented of the twelve here> and they need your help!'
balmy mesa
gnb is original to XIV, but it draws heavily from ff8
it's also original in that it's the first time they've actually named the job
frank raptor
No gun breaker is based on Squall leonhart from Final Fantasy 8
But whats squall class/job in ff8?
pastel coyote
seed
maiden lodge
But whats squall class/job in ff8?
ff8 doesn't have jobs
balmy mesa
they just have an incredibly broken spell system that's fun to exploit
frank raptor
Ohh, pardon my uncultred gaminh
cinder badger
You guys don't understand the concept of originality then
worn bloom
Many characters tend to take after jobs even in games that don't use them.
frank raptor
Xiv is my first ff
serene crest
I mean... a gunscythe? gun--sex pistols documentary; scythe--children of bodom ...
ohgodplsno not rwby 
gaunt star
I feel like as obvious as those are, these wouldn't be different
hasty totem
ff8 doesn't have jobs
They do. It's just not named.
austere bear
you should go play other FF games if you can
pulsar yacht
squall's weapon is gunblade for limit breaks but skills are anything you want to be
hasty totem
Also
balmy mesa
mystic knight?
hasty totem
They are also soilders of SEED
balmy mesa
would that be possible, fits in with thavnair lore?
austere bear
you might recognize alot of reference playing them
hasty totem
despite been students.
cinder badger
He took something directly off of Final Fantasy 8 including attack names the weapon and the overall function. Just because you finally gave in name to it doesn't make it original
maiden lodge
They do. It's just not named.
Well, kiiiiinda. Zell and Quistis kinda are based off Monk and Blue Mage, but Irvine, Selphie, and Rinoa are.... kinda their own thing?
Unless Puppylaunchers a job
balmy mesa
I think we'll still see a few more ff8 references, but I'm all for the ffx references
serene crest
Puppymancer confirmed
pastel coyote
rich dumb girl
worn bloom
I'd play a Puppymancer.
balmy mesa
you'd be barking mad not to
austere bear
im surprise ff7 isn't that much represented besides weapons
hasty totem
If you want a strict definition
hot root
i want to fight the moon itself
gaunt star
This is what the minion farm is for it all makes sense
pulsar yacht
I'm thinking ff4 will be the main theme in msq. if there's going to be X it'll be in side content
cinder badger
Originality implies that you are going to do something that hasn't been done on any of the other games it is going to have its own skill set is going to have its own function and its own personality
hasty totem
You can say they have “specifications”. Not “jobs”
maiden lodge
I'd play a Puppymancer.
cinder badger
And you won't look back at the other games and said hey it's that class
worn bloom
Nothing is original.
austere bear
balmy mesa
hey, you know what would be interesting? if beastmaster required you to do the farming shit in 6.0
pastel coyote
sure
austere bear
someone made a good loop
worn bloom
Nearly everything is a derivitive of something else.
balmy mesa
if there was ever such a limited class
pastel coyote
i don't plan to do it btw
maiden lodge
I'm thinking ff4 will be the main theme in msq. if there's going to be X it'll b...
Anima
worn bloom
I wonder if we'll have a repeat of Soundbringers.
hasty totem
The only main numbered titles that uses the classification “jobs” would be FF3, 5, 11, 14
austere bear
i want to hear a soken take on the ff4 boss theme
frank raptor
So EW main theme intro have similar note to ShB eh
balmy mesa
they're mashing together IV and X... anima has that whole two-sided theme going for it
hasty totem
And 12 international
maiden lodge
The only main numbered titles that uses the classification “jobs” would be FF3, ...
To be fair though, FF4 and 6 characters do have canonical jobs.
Also FF1
pastel coyote
9 kinda ?
worn bloom
I wonder if Rowena pioneered space travel to get us there?
cinder badger
Executioner sounds like a nice name
hasty totem
Aka Zodiac Age
austere bear
and 1.0 tried to be unique with their classes
frank raptor
No other game managed that
ARR story, no?
balmy mesa
Executioner sounds like a nice name
Judge?
worn bloom
The XIV before ARR
frank raptor
I mean ARR story also made me sleep too xD
worn bloom
It wasn't the story that made me tired. XIV 1.0 was basically a microcosm of all the worst aspects of XI and more.
frank raptor
I see
balmy mesa
also, for context for those who haven't played FFX... I'm not surprised they chose to showcase her as one of the trials: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YN2MPq3T_4
worn bloom
I liked XI despite it slow combat system but XIV 1.0 felt so much worse.
maiden lodge
also, for context for those who haven't played FFX... I'm not surprised they cho...
I love that her designer's been on the team the entire time
balmy mesa
I love that her designer's been on the team *the entire time*
holy shit, really??
frank raptor
If the new anima is from FFX
What about our anima in anima weap? Is that xiv original or is it anima from other ff?
balmy mesa
it's from xiv 1.0
maiden lodge
holy shit, really??
Yep--it was mentioned when Anima came up--they decided to have her original designer make a FF14-version.
maiden lodge
Yeah I can see their design in Lunar Bahamut
cinder badger
I think they're just using the original design maybe clean some things up here or there but ultimately it's going to be anima as it was in 10
Which fits with the theme they're going with
maiden lodge
I think they're just using the original design maybe clean some things up here o...
Well, they mentioned it will be made fourteen-fitting
But, you know, same monster designer
cinder badger
We're basically he reliving the final days
balmy mesa
they're probably gonna make anima a bit hydaelyn-zodiark-ish but the original intent will still be there
like I expect oblivion to be used as the interstitial in the boss battle
spiral wagon
do you think the new melee class will be a scouting, or a maiming gear set?
maiden lodge
like I expect oblivion to be used as the interstitial in the boss battle
'14 hit tank buster look forward to it'
cinder badger
@maiden lodge yeah but the way animal looks he's already fitting to their Direction which is why I think they chose anima in the first place
balmy mesa
do you think the new melee class will be a scouting, or a maiming gear set?
was confirmed as maiming
in a later interview
spiral wagon
was confirmed as maiming
ah ok
balmy mesa
cinder badger
So we have two shirts with Punk and metal themes one with the image of the Grim Reaper on it saying I'll be there if you need me
balmy mesa
I'm all for the new expansion theme, it's a real banger
cinder badger
And it's going to be using maiming gear
So it's going to look like something off of Metalocalypse
balmy mesa
I mean, the belts do have to go somewhere...
pastel coyote
yeah to KH
spiral wagon
ah i see tyty
cinder badger
Watch it artifact armor be nothing but belts
Then we can say that's where all our belts went to
fast rampart
ranjit and zenos' weird murdery magicks definitely seemed weirdly similar
which might lend credence to him picking up a scythe
cinder badger
Maybe Ranjit is Zenos' First counterpart
When you think about it he was only the second guy to make the warrior of light look like a pathetic loser
The first was Zenos
woven escarp
to be honest, I was winning the first encounter with zenos
cinder badger
Zeno's only lets you think you were winning because you're his friend
balmy mesa
hopefully he doesn't go full tsundere though
glossy vale
New Zenos boss fight is just going to have a 10 second down for the count whenever you get him to 75% health
Caling it now
fast rampart
cOnCeNtRaTiViTy
balmy mesa
and instead of a danger noodle, he has a nope rope
balmy mesa
6 phases for normal, 9 phases for EX, it'd be nice
glossy vale
That's not even taking into consideration if your team has low DPS
cinder badger
One of his attacks will involve him launching Fandango at you like a missile
onyx sundial
heady shadow
that face
balmy mesa
I'm impressed with the photoshopping job, it's pretty damn good
considering how quickly it came out
cinder badger
The main goal of maiming gear by design is to look like something that provides adequate protection but still allows for Swift movement
Which is why it's the dragoons type of armor
woven escarp
maiming gear is annoying because it should be tank gear but SE is too cowardly to give drg a tank stance
REEEE
dim sigil
Drg tank sounds bad
heady shadow
nah,
fast rampart
drg is already a tank Kappa
cinder badger
If maiming gear was designed to look like tanking gear then they should have let gun breaker use it
heady shadow
i had fun with in in 1.0
eager prairie
I'm sure its been mentioned before but I would really love for Island Sanctuary to includde personal housing. I alrdy like what's been said so far but having that would push it to perfection content
woven escarp
keen flurry is still the best defensive cooldown in the game
90s cd, 95% parry rate with no bonuses and no drawbacks
based
viscid monolith
Fun fact
DRG can tank Lyon in Castrun LL
The entire time
Even the tank buster
balmy mesa
so now it's a literal floor tank?
pine epoch
Idk why but the 6.0 trailer song during the alisae alphy and wol part of the teaser gives me like some led zeppelin vibes for some reason
oak pike
we grunge now in 6.0
cinder badger
Yeah it seems everything about and Walker is going to be Rock themed
balmy mesa
no titan pls
cinder badger
Yoshi wearing Rock shirts
oak pike
time to put on some nirvana
turbid aspen
ffxiv themes have gone a long way huh
balmy mesa
time to put on some nirvana
yeah I'm doing the same lol
cinder badger
Not even that kind of rock like punk in metal Rock
viscid monolith
balmy mesa
re: DRG, they had different stats in 2.x
woven escarp
reminder that parry used to scale off strength
so keen flurry was -30% physical damage taken for 20 seconds... every 90 seconds
based
balmy mesa
that shitty mdef = floor tank
woven escarp
member when drg couldn't even do titan ex
because if they moved to refresh heavy thrust they'd wipe the raid
and tumults would just kill them outright
👌
heady shadow
remember titan ex being horrible for everyone
tiny wind
whats the next unreal gonna be 