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Yep. He's all "SUCH DEVASTATION" after the Ultima spell goes off
idk what he says with JP audio
Yep. But i mean, even if you have the jp voice, it should be the same line if you have english text
Hey rn
oh so its just the text line not actual voice line
both
Can I mention sage i. Healer chat? I can delete the posts if no
Any updates on new Figurines? Or just still cat girl and Estinen back ordered?
That damn laugh
you can mention whatever the fuck you want. meme alphy as a gundam if you want 
Dark arts. SUCH DEVESTATION. THIS WAS NOT MY INTENTION. Dark arts.
Just makimg sure
What do you guys think the Sage lore will be?
Garlean and Allagan science mixed into one
Alphinaud wanted to one up his sisters pointy new sword by having four pointy things that fly = Lore
oh god, i'm watching state of the realm (because i forgot they did it yesterday) and they're wondering why they went to vylbrand on the trailer. they went for the tower first up wondering what else is there. and i just kinda went..."isn't that where we did the first part of coil?"
Sages taught Edda how to heal
Dark arts. Cid/iron works make something weird. Cid hands it to alphy and tries to discern it's use. Dark arts.
dark arts 
The lore will be that Zeon Zum Daikun predicted the arise of Newtypes
People are speculating that it's Sharlayan tech
I think that's more to show the devastation of the Second FInal Days are universal
Dark arts is to ynne what yes yes is to namazu
Also Amal'jaa dungeon FINALLY
Dark arts. Then someone versed in allagan tech like rambroes friends or whatever. Talks it over and eventually teach it as you learn the mysteries of the allgan/ironwork tech. Dark arts.
We're ending where we started boys! Ifrit's lizard bois
idk about that new elephant tribe 
Lawl yes
Wonder what their verbal style will be.
I hope we see little alpha on the moon 
Elephants are interesting for a beat tribe
All beast tribes speak a particular way
Different
Rip Paglth’an zone
Therevania looks like India, so hence the Elephant tribe
i suppose...though we can't really say much until they revealed the full trailer
Very Indian influenced
very south asian influenced
LAWL
Thavnairian stuff in game so far is a mix of Persian/Arab stuff and Indian stuff
Dark arts
Tbh. Yeah.
African india
Dark arts
omg 
Looks like that Elephant keyboard player in Star Wars
The above screenshot is from Star Wars
No that's from 6.0 obviously
Long live the king
Elephant tribe already in game, Uznair was their civilization
Blue elephant
A bigger elephant
Viva La Revolution, depose the ivory clad despot.
One of them
lmao
You ride piggy back
Also hints at a Hummingway tribe yes pls lets go
Maybe make an in game name change with them.
Sin Eater Beast Tribe please 👌
That's only the one guy!
Are you so determined to die?
I hope viera and hrothgar players get more headgear
Yeah but he is a part of the race.
I really hope so too. I need more fashion!
Finally give male viera and female hrothgar
I want to get beast tribe quests from Forgiven Pedantry 😎
Seems weird that the viera couldn't wear stuff but just have the ears clip, considering au ra horns poke through everything. But maybe that's not the reason and I'm just not aware of the details
I was just surprised we didn't even get the new helms as they were released. Fitting all the old content onto our heads being a big job I understand.
But we got none moving forward either
I think it's because the ears themselves count as "headwear" to the engine
Though...you’ve already seen how horny cat boys are, Hydaelyn wouldn’t survive an unleashed bunny boy who shows you the true meaning of the phrase “fucks like a rabbit.”
so they need to make special armor that's the original piece + bunny ears
Ah that would make sense, I just thought they were done similarly to the au ra horns
that would make sense if the horns weren't at the top of the head
most helms just remove the horns if it completely encases the face, too
wouldnt the horns still be headware to the engine in some way?
also which helmet removes the horn? 
Do they? I play an au ra and I don't think I've worn a helm that removes my horns
don't the enclosed helms occlude the horns?
nope
because that's the kind of lazy thing they'd do 
Yeah they're just there all the time regardless. Which is goofy looking at times
Its because viera/hrothgar hair/fur doesn't work like any other race.
On a technical level--they don't have the same set up, so a hat that replaces hair on one race actually does something different entirely on them--so they have to do work arounds to accomodate that.
The tradeoff is that they have different physics etc for their hair, ears, etc.
I suppose the horns might be just changes to the existing ear mesh which would explain why they clip through
imagine if viera ears just clipped off entirely because you put a helm on 
NOOOO MY BUNNY WAIFU
Just stuff them into wizard hats. Ez
Btw do we know for sure that Zenos' weapon is a Scythe ?
Comb them back and put the helmet on.
i figured it out. sage's lb3 will just be vector cannon from ZoE
Looks like a scythe handle
Zenos being a varied version of the new melee dps wouldn't surprise me
Funnel bits snipe the party’s heads to heal them.
And he's the only melee dps in the cast
Unless they show off a random npc to showcase again
melee like ranjit 
Knowing his edgelord ass he will have a laser scythe, go full Star Ocean 4 with it.
also, are we just going to reactivate void ark and go to the moon?
pls no ive been on the void ark 18 times recently
Also I think yoship said that zenos will tease the new job. Unless I got that info wrong
Nope. Cid's building a giant catapult
Will they ever upgrade the game engine? Yoshi said he considers this his ‘life’s work’. Hard to imagine a decade from now still using old tech
Maybe 7.0
but the void ark is a transdimensional space-faring vehicle 😔
Maybe they treat 7.0 like ngs
What to expect from pandaemonium?
eh, could be. void ark raid is the one that's yet to be required for any content
and wherever fandaniel is in that trailer it looks a lot like mhach technology
What ever we use it’ll look like a Star destroyer without a command deck.
They'll probably upgrade it in a couple years, once the tech on the player end is more commonplace and they can justify it
that room looked spooky
I expect we find Lahabrea's old lab where we find all the spirits stuff they made
Will pandaemonium be inspired by ff2?
It does look like it but it could be a mix of the various ones through the series.
maybe? who knows
We're going to the moon on lunar whales
I mean this is a more hellish looking FF2 Pandaimonium.
I doubt they'll make mateus a raid boss, but i hope that happens
i wanna play that dungeon already
Seems mhachi to me
Fighting an entire crystal world 
We could have him or Lahabara could just go full expy mode as the ruler of hell/pandaemonium.
Having mateus in the game was one of my wishes, this is probably the only opportunity we'll have to fight him in the game
If they do have him I wonder if they’ll go the Dissidia route and have him be a trap master?
I can't wait for the crushing disappointment when I fail to get a house in Ishgard
i owned a house once and it got auto-demolished cuz i was inactive 
rekt
We have Scythe Melee, with Edda Blackbosom’ glam weapon for sale; use on lancers and tanks
I almost had a house and then I left for a bathroom break and someone came up and got it
6 hours well spent. 10/10
I also hope kuja is one of pandaemonium's bosses but it seems extremely unlikely
the elevator thingy in the trailer is like

100% terra
i got my first house during the recent house demolition day
Necron being in savage would be cool
Outside of Ozma what 9 representation do we have?
pls find more original jokes other than "moons haunted"
took about 7 and a half hours of camping and spamming
Vivi
@empty scaffold Alexander
Lahabrea created all sorts of shit, I wouldn't even put it past them if they made a Kuja-lite boss in raid
Alexander is from VI
ARK
wheres that even from
Alexander in XIV is based on FF9
Destiny, I think?
But ark and the wings are from IX
destiny 2
oh thats why i havent heard of it
when shadowkeep was introduced because the moon, in fact, was haunted
Forgot about Vivi and I was thinking Alexander more as an overall rep.
Zorn and thorn
That’s my excuse otherwise it’s my pending Alzheimer’s.
the guy that originally made it doesn't wanna reply to my comments, but heres the original, go sub to him instead https://youtu.be/SOkr7AriYoA
Or adhd...
Yeah the XIV Alexander is almost 1:1 the FF9 version, hell one of the Alex raids is you running down the stairs of a ruined castle that always felt like FF9's castle to me.
Hades is another 9 reference
I didn't even play through 9 and I still caught it.
No, hades is from VII
Y’all carry on, slinking off in shame now. 
Well 14 alexander doesnt look that much like ff9
Mhach theme had parts similar to IX battle theme
I've never seen similarities
Except for the uh... concept art for ff9 alexander
Which has similar arm things like ff14
Zodiark's design in the statues are FF9 Necron
Some quina spells
Cant wait for the new Raid 
(Angel's snack)
Me when I finally come out of the basement
Matra Magic too
I once again hope that the music in the Sage Trailer is the overworld battle theme for EW
The music is just Gubal remix no?
Oh I guess IX is the only game I've found it in
Prima vista
oops
Matra magic started in ff6
Original snes version called if something else
Lahabara is the Kael’Thas of 14.
I'm sure this has been mentioned before ... but it makes ms ad that the next expansion will undoubtedly be referred to as EW.
That was Mitron
ew
No, it was suppose to be Mitron, but that was still Lahabrea's mask in the artwork
ew
Not END?
Or EDW?

FFXIV:EW
People lazy. First letter of two words.
I'm just glad it's not SB again
it's called ShB because SB exists
ARR me matey
okay but ShB is bc SB
SHB was sorta required and ARR was three words!
What will anima role be?
SMB
it's lahabrea's mask, not mitron's
END would be appropriate tbh, but EW is funnier
They all have very similar RED masks
recruiting for P1S prog, starting 6.01 release 
It' has lahabrea's sigil on it
I assume it's suppose to be Mitron given the entire context of that poster
it is
And has nothing to do with Laha in reality
but it's not miitron's mask
Lahabreha mask
@placid sail Oh no
P13
catch me on that P4S prog
Maybe we didn't kill laha all the way
It's lahabrea's mask i guess
that pic is so good
but lahabrea literally has nothing to do with it
well, we didn't. thordan might have a say on who killed lahabrea tho
can we have that pinned
it's only half his mask

YOU'D THINK PEOPLE WOULD SEE THAT I ALREADY ADMITTED THAT SHIT
also
Ishikawa brought up lahabread in a interview when talking about auracite
And mentioned lahabrea and shinryu
keep in mind that since this is the raid series, it won't start until after the 6.0 MSQ
meaning that this will take place after the Hydaelyn and Zodiark arc is over
@untold gull Your first mistake is expecting people to read, 99% of XIV players cant even read PF.
that's why i was thinking we find his lab!
I think its a raid series based on whatever Lahabread made with creation magic
Oh, yeah. the Pandaemonium artwork uses both his mask and sigil,
yea
Good ol LaHeebrea
Pandaemonium could be whatever is inside the Moon
I was sayin' still how the 5.4 artwork has Lahabrea's mask, not Mitron's
A raid series about Phoenix
https://youtu.be/KNpM8IAfPBA I hope we get a remix of this song in pandaemonium (Which is pretty likely)
best theme in the game
LAHABREA RISES FROM THE ASHES LIKE A PHOENIX
gonna turn out some crazy shit like, Lahabrea split his soul and made a Creation with it, and the Pandaemonium Warden will be that fragment
Why is FF2's logo a gasm face
LaHEEbreha is trying to keep the belts alive.
I NEED THAT SONG THAT PLAYS IN THE TRAILER
Turns out belts are the key to the ardor
We gonna go DeeDee on lahabrea's laboratory
like laha was lying that his soul was whole the entire time?
?
He sundered it himself?

He self sundered
Seppuku
for an experiment?
Maybe he's like Agent Smith. He wasn't destroyed he was just freed from the influence of the zodiark
laha is the last boss of ew
not quite, but I wouldn't put it past him, or some phantomology bullshit
well maybe not a split off fragment of him, but like,
It's gonna be some shit where we underestimated him as we didn't know he was an Unsundered, and he is infact powerful as fuck, after some rest.
a legitimate creation of himself
And divided himself and placed his being into vessels
So he's Voldemort
lahabread went down kinda easily for an unsundered tbh idk
someone else put it a similarv way,
He placed his soul into horcruxes
if this Lahabrea is really like, an artifical overseer of his lab
Given the way in which he was taken out, I can believe there might be a loophole
the guy most likely did try to Create a copy of himself at some point
Vessels huh. Well there are a lot of unused solus bodies piling up in garlemald rn 
I could have sworn Thordan absorbed him
he was killed by niddy eye
But you can't kill them with conventional means
You have to trap them within a vessel like the white Auracite
Thordan did absorb Lahabrea into the Eye, and he did die then
Right but he's an unsundered, at the end of the day he should have been way fucking stronger than he was, so he probably loopholed out of death.
Well what if it was a fragment of him?
No more daddies belt uwu
Not him in entirety but like an 1/8th of him?
my guess is Lahabrea' soul existed in a very broken, lessened state and possessed an old construct of his
like how Proto-Phoenix got possessed in Ancient times
there's also the thing with mitron/loghrif transforming into an Ascian Prime and Mitron having somehow survived in some form
I didn't see him get killed I saw him getting absorbed
getting absorbed by a primal does basically kill you
Guardian Force: Pandaemonium Warden?
it's like putting their soul through a blender
Yeah if you're normal
how much more powerful is hades over laha
it killed the Sahuagin priest who was able to use the Echo to body jump
It'd be like every molocule of your aether being ripped apart one by one
it cant be that much
But he was an unsundered ascian I'm sure he knows how to survive
About 30 levels
Hades was much more powerful than Lahabrea
Someone made a joke that the dragon capstone mount is Jade Weapon. Even tho Jade is more insect like
This literally is how we learn to kill an Ascian
he already had a connection to the Underworld and more natural aether that Lahabrea lacked
and then Lahabrea lessened himself with constant body jumping
and he was even weaker when he died due to having just been beaten in battle
Ye
I think when we killed Thordan Lahabreha was able to reform himself
Nah he'd still be stuck in the Eye
Either that or it was when estinien destroyed the eyes of nidhogg
my guess now is that whatever was left of his soul was stuck until-
yeah then
when the Eyes were destroyed
Whoever mentioned Mitron is probably on the money
and then this warped and hollow fragment of himself possessed a construct of his own
But they weren't destroyed by a weapon of light they were destroyed by estinien spear
If Mitron survived becoming a Sineater, Laha probably survived Thordan.
It wouldn't have the same effect as the warrior of light using they're super saiyan powers
whereas it was Lahabrea's soul that was consumed
i don't think he's really alive per se
but some fragment of him has returned
In 2.x where we had far less context for everything, there are plenty of loopholes they can give him now.
again, my guess is that he's going to possess a construct of his own creation from way back when
We did see dark wispy Aether vanish into the air after Estinien stabbed the eyes
Do you think they'll get more into the azem thing later or is that gonna be dropped after we move on to the next thing
as "Ere Our Curtain Falls" explicitly compares him to Phoenix
i'm still voting for it's more lahabrea's creations than lahabrea himself for the raid 
which was a case of an Ancient soul, unwilling to die, possessing one of lahabrea's creations
@cloud valve I think it will come up at various points but never as the focus.
Because we will continue to wander
Okay. As dumb as this sounds, HOW likely do you think it'll be that they add male Viera and female Hrothgar in patch 6.0?
0
Will people just give it up
azem's thing is essentially the same thing WoL has been doing. we just have a definitive canon on how we can summon friendlies now
They wont
but if they were going to do it, i feel like they would have revealed it by now
I feel the same. If they add new races they'd just put the other gender.
Not until yoshida says No
Stop complaining about Viera and Hrothgar
Something tells me I'm not going to like the price of that lunar whale
MORE FACIAL FEATURE OPTIONS PLS
That being said, I doubt we're going to get any other new races
we already have a pretty full roster
I can't wait to pay $80 for an 8-person mount
it'll be the remaining gender options or nothing else
Okay can we Midlanders get more wavy/curly hair options?
more customization options is a possibility i think
I dont wanna switch to catboy just to have hair that looks like mine.
Go play WoW
while we're at it, can we pls separate the actual facial features to the horns/scales for au ra?
I thought the engineer was bald
How about they let us put a Lala's head on a roe
if they seperated au ra scales, we could also get a muscle slider for au ra
which i would welcome
Horn slider
How about they let us mix and match every race together
Gross

How about a roe body with Lala legs
How about a miqote with a lala shaped body
Everytime I see 6.0 title I think of this:
What if they just remove races all together and we only get one lalafell
But yeah hopefully we'll see more hair that's all I want
Sums up any and all conversations about character customization complaining.
I can't wait to completely fail at playing Sage
I don't play healing
seriously you guys can go play World of Warcraft with their new customizations if you really want so much detail
eew
Aren't you supposed to be able to make just about anything now?
Is anima gonna be a primal?
I wonder if some point they're going to get rid of Soul Stones all together
Soul Stone should never die
How else are we going to master the abilities of the jobs in a matter of hours
Anima will probably be like a terminus thing
Soul stones should die, so we can have thief
Ninja uses the same weapons though and some of the same abilities that a thief would
So I'm guessing the only thing we're going to get next expansion are a level 90 jobquest
Like Mug
they already said no thief because it's not very warrior of light. that's why rogue is made - it's thief-lite
I was kind of hoping that jobquest would just come back
Hopefully they give Crafters at least one
At level 90 also
Thief was one of the original Warriors of light in Final Fantasy 1
at least give sage a job quest 
Also ninja totally sounds more Warrior of light
An assassin working in the shadows
Outside of DRK I think I preferred Role Quests, the only thing I hate though is tying Void story behind making me play role types I'd never touch
Square Enix is a lover of Ubisoft I see
Dark Knight is also super Warrior of light
god i can't wait to get rid of all my belts
Oh yeah they start at level 70 one Quest hi take this goodbye
Going to be interesting
Nothing says light like DARK Knight
They had a real good narrative reason for DRK though
Harder to justify WoL stealing shit.
basically Batman
He steals the money from the rich and gives it to the poor
Didn't we steal shit in rogue's questline?
I'm assuming they'll have to break there there Quest things for the new jobs so they actually have a story
I don't know, I dont play that shit
Because I can't see Sage having a level 70 Quest and then saying goodbye see you at level 80
We stole stolen goods I think
Rogues Quest is all about stealing shit but it's stealing stuff from people who stole it from the rightful owners
Rogue steal what was already stolen
I also think asking for Thief is like asking for Rune Fencer when RDM exists
inb4 sage job teacher is alphinaud
Y'know?
Because limsa lominsa has a code
sage teacher might be alphi's family idk
... that's a good point. Is sage not gonna get job quests?
or another random sharlean
People just want a magic melee I think with Rune fencer, cause RDM is ranged
And what about the melee?
We didnt get the big city reveal, just the Tomestone city
So we'll probably see Sharlayan
Rdm is a ranged/melee hybrid
god if they made rune fencer i might actually play melee
If rdm is melee why no melee positionals
I could get behind the Mystic Knight if it's a Thavnair Job

I wonder if we'll have a magic melee DPS
And looks a lot like Final Fantasy V version
Mystic knight
I want a DPS Knight with Maiming gear, I just want DPS Swords goddammit.
Does scimitars counts as swords?
Also alphinaud teaching it wouldnt be half bad, but he'd be learning too, no?
Not cool swords
Unless they learn together
I would rather Samurai get moved to Maiming
Some ninja weapons are practically swords
The next job is probably mystic knight
Hmm... Limsa...
Striking gear blows for us because it's mostly themed around MNK
Im trying to think of a suitable location for it
I can't wait to see what stage Relic is going to look like in the future
And looks bad
Cuz it's going to look cool with all four things glowing
@rough kestrel idk, i do like my SAM glam lol
sage*
and it looks better on SAM than MNK
Wonder if the next maiming job is gonna have the same problem since it's been DRG themed for forever.
Since theyre ending all that with hydalean and scion, do u think we will see shtola in 6.0 msq?
Current guesses are Corsair, Templar (somehow), Necromancer and beastmaster.
Blue mage starts in plaza, arcanist, rogue and marauder have their own guilds, scholar started in the marauder guild, dancer started in that area off to the side... Maybe Sage starts near the grand company or the bsm guild cuz someones showing off the 'new tech'
Beastmasters have so far been shown as melee
What will happen to guild quests if they remove soul crystals?
Theyd never remove soul ctystals
@unreal wadi They fucking removed the cape from Judge armor ONLY on striking, and that cannot be forgiven, fuck Monk.
Can a necromancer be melee
They can make it one probably.
Daily reminder that Maiming makes no sense for SAM as MNK and SAM have more similar gcd speeds
😳

You're never getting Necromancer
considering they already showed necro as a caster, Id highly doubt theyd change it
Are you guys surprised they chose melee over caster
nah
Nah.
Templar is a shitty red mage, i hope it isn't the dps
I want more lore about the origin of sages
Melee dps could be cool
Because China exists you're never getting Necro, you're either getting a Scythe Melee or Mystic Knight
I just don't think it's templar
Probably Scythe melee
Oh you're goddamn right.

Lmao
Even if china was a-ok with it
How are you gonna spin it into something heroic
What gear would mystic knight wear?
M o o g l e m a n c e r
The fact they joked about Necro several times shows they are never putting it in.
@plucky palm Maiming
If Blizzard could spin it as a 'good' class then Square could.
Whatever the new DPS is going to be it's going to use maiming gear
China approves
lalafell are a joke and they exist
necromancer isn't happening, my dudes
let it go
Which type of sword? I hope scimitar
There's nothing Very Metal about scouting gear
Just cuz blizzard did doesnt mean itll fit in eorzea
DRG doesnt share with anyone so it'll be a Maiming Melee DPS
I don't know how to heal I don't want to touch healing but I'll tell you what Sage might make me play healer
hegel indeed 
Mystic Knight sounds like a tank, name wise
God auto correct
If you hadn't noticed the past three shirts that yoshi-p wore have a connection to metal music
So thats a strong possibility for maiming usually being Tank Gear.
go learn how to be a good healer first
¯_(ツ)_/¯
being a good healer is being a dps first
and healing the tank before he dies
👌
DPSing healthbars
Its role in previous games is dps
if you wanna play sage so bad, go play astro or scholar if you have summoner leveled
drk was a dps in XI
@drowsy ivy can't wait for the first time healers on roulette in 6.0
but not in XIV 

Bruh
Wasn't SAM a tank once?
70 and under suddenly becomes unsafe
Anyone I get who doesnt know how to play the role and just wanted to try the new job is getting the fat fucking boot
SAM was intended to be a tank in XI, yeah
but as it turns out, parry is fuckin junk and using shadows is objectively better 100% of the time
in other FFs yeah but those are irrelevant
Samurai was supposed to ne a dps in XI but the devs are idiots and accidentally made it a tank.
That's ninja
Wait ya I have that backwards
they gave sam an A+ in parry with the intent of having sam be a parry tank
Yeah lance smh
It was a tank but they made a dps instead
If I catch a Sage in Holsminister Switch that doesnt know what theyre doing I'm either eating that 30m or theyre getting the shoe
except critical hits pushed parry off the roll table and failing a parry meant you died instantly since you had no defense anyway
since you wore regular dps gear

story skip, level skip straight into sage in holminster 
Ninja was supposed to be a dps in XI but it's a tank instead
What the fuck did they not play test this
Just move SAM to Maiming and put Mystic Knight in striking, Monk gear and Scimitars kind of goes together, I just don't want to be ham strung by MNK fashion anymore.

SMALL
Fucking horrendous
"it's supposed to be hard"
You made skippers even worse
I'm gonna be sage in holminster switch
Why didn't it have defense in case it failed a parry
But that doesnt count cause I know how to heal
because sam wore primarily leather gear
because fuck you that's why Lance
Lmk when u get kicked 
I mean I'm going to try to learn to play healer but i get hit by that healer intimidation so I'm going to try with White Mage to get used to it
the only jobs that had access to plate were war and pld
FFXI was cock and ball torture
FFXI is whack Lance
and drk for some fuckin reason
Ok fair
Beastmaster Templar and Mystic Knight.
Care to explain how you draw a connection between Yoshi's shirts and those three jobs?
Do you think that one level between 70 and 71 will save people
even though drk had no reason to be a tank since all its abilities basically caused suicide 
No because alliance faids and MSQ exists
Unless healing is gettting an across the board rework, can imagine the only scary parties are gonna be fresh healers who only just want to try sage
Woah hey don't tell XIV players this
If DRK or GNB had been DPS I would have mained them.
last resort~
GNB should have been Maiming DPS
"What do you mean a tank shouldn't sacrifice HP for attacks"
Isn't the t-shirt an album with reaper theme?
Tank Tryndamere
Boom
Imagine if they gave DRK the old Blood for Blood
imagine if they gave drk last resort
And what if that actually has nothing to do with it
And rather it's the theme of his shirts
Zenos has a scythe
Yoshi's shirts all had scythe/reaper themes
Thats pretty much it
It has to be upside down honestly, that or it's blade is super small
The no comment, neigborhood and the shirt he wore ar live letter all have a recurring theme.
Yeah we see very little of the actual weapon if it is one
Metal
The next job is clearly mordekaiser
Nah Zenos has just been logged off
He likes his women how he likes his music
Wait till he stands up
Heavy and Metal
lol, he's been having fun in his island sanctuary
Zenos AFKs in Garlemald all day as though it's Limsa, comes back every patch to check retainers and complain about no WoL
Who has a picture of Zeno sitting on his chair
The letter N?
What job begins with N
Or has 3 Ns
I am the best detective
Ninjan
That works too I didn't think of that
ZeNos NecromaNcer
they all have n and they all tie into metal music
I CRACKED THE CODE
Onion Knight
Cannoneer
Zenos being anything but a Melee DPS would be unfortunate, I dont think Zenos wants to be a caster.
I don't know what that's from but it looks awful
She has like... a wand kinda thing except it's kind of a polearm because she uses scathach rig
To very cleverly detract from the 100th necromancer prediction:
Zenos can't sit like this man.
Thoughts on Sage LB3
"Warrior of light, i thought we had a deal"
TBF I don't really think it's necro mostly for the fact they said it on stage.
Has japanese media reached a point where all ot looks exactly the same
Wouldn't be that obvious
Where are his feet...
Yes Lance
Like some kind of formless anime blob
Yes
I don't think it's necro because you know the whole desecrating corpses thing
Ok i take it back
Wheres his other foot
its gonna be something we won't expect
The Chinese client replaces all undead
They're gonna make a magical girl monk thing
And I'm pretty sure Palace of the Dead doesn't exist
Ascians are space gas
Thats what anime is now, generic formless weeb blobs that people call waifus
...huh
It's called Palace of the Dance in China
Is it just 100 floors of rave?
I'm not saying it's going to be Necromancer but it is definitely going to be something you'd most likely see on Metalocalypse
It'll summon more floaty things and shoot their party members awake
Necromancer bad.
Reaper good

Okay summoning more floaty things would be cool
She probably like... Calls something down and then they spin around us and we rise
Sage LB3 should be a laser show that plays The Twinning, to revive the whole party.
Nothing like epilepsy to wake up ur party
No rdm is flashbang
Inflict Blind to all players
Epilepsy would be flashin lights
Ah right
The four gun things will merge into one giant done thing fire into the air and then rain life-giving Aether showering its allies
Would be kind of funny if Alisaie is placeholder bait and we really are getting a Melee fencer job.
zenos class
All because in the trailer the enemy wouldn't let her stand still and cast.
The job is called
Zenos Class.
Reaper of souls
So it'll most likely be a garlean class
Gunhammer
"Frienemy"
Zenos is Soulcalibur
No. Give gunshield
"hamilton"
Just gun shield
I dont think any tech will satisfy Zenos now, he'll only go for super magic
Gunsword/hammer? Shit.
Gunfist? Shit.
Gunshield? Wack
Friendwalker is smart but also sounds stupid
...ha? What tech did he have in the first place
Gunfist lmao.
Pull the trigger and watch your hand get blown off as you punch the enemy
He had a golfcase for his katanas

Alright yang calm down
Rocket paunch
His golfbag was absent at his throne in the cinematic
From the moment he said "goodbye my first friend my enemy" I knew shit was going to happen
Mod Sage weapons into floating hands that flip the bird when shooting lasers.
You were his first. Now he's begging for more

Zenos is loyal as shit tho
He won't run around or desert you
"new job who dis"
He's just Vegeta
"Wol. May I have some fight"
"No. I'm busy"
"But wol. I NEED IT"
"no. I said I'm busy"
destroys garlemald
"goddamit Zenos. Fine alright just one fight!"
"wan some fite"
"Gib fite rn"
It's literally Vegeta trying to get Gohan to fight him in DBZ shorts
If Zenos is our lover, what is fandaniel?
Shows at the grocery store "FIGHT ME"
third wheel
Fandaniel is the ugly friend
Fandango is a mistake
The pimp? He's the one organising most of this isn't he?
Not seeing enough Sage Hype in here
Iirc he trying to make world go boom
Because Sage Is A Healer
Awesome Healer xD
Healer and awesome don't mix
Nothing in XIV is ever going to make me want to be a healer]
Remember you said that
Unless it's gears of war where people healed one another by sheer bro. "You just got your gut shot out, walk it off"
Amaro Mount
I levelskipped SCH to finish role quests and do the Void Story, but thats mostly out of shit quest design
Nah. I wanna see PLD actions
Everybody will jump onto Sage realize it's not a DPS and that you actually have to heal people then they'll go back to playing their main DPS
I hope PLD is super badazz
It's gonna be an interesting launch for tank players where the leveling roulette will be filled with new melee dpsers and a new healer type with possible new healer players.
I just the song from the trailer
Only play level 90 tank stuff
want||*
But for me its Gunbreaker
I think instead of getting a new damaging ability as Paladin we should get something more Paladin like
You know something that mitigates damage
Well, we got a gun ranged, a gun healer, and a gun tank, we need a gun melee dps
It is not
The cinematic cuts the alisaie fight and there’s probably more to the zenos scene
Heck even the music is a garbled version so the lyrics are hard to hear
maybe we'll get nero's hammer finally
Machinist, but closer
It's deliberately hiding a lot
wham
Gun-kata class?
Full intro to what?
Nothing's more metal than Nero
Its got the lyrics from the ShB song in it
I agree completely! Especially on Gunbreaker. Think I rather have more mitigation tools than attack skills
Something about angels
also, I'd like to point out that we may just end up with berserker
I can't wait to see the full intro. I have a feeling its going to rekt Shadowbringers intro
shb intro is pretty hype tho
I just want more flying gun lasers
Guys what’s the theme in the sage demo?
Any more glowing weapons added?
I think it would be nice if Gunbreaker had 6 shots like they canonically have but had a ton to use shots with
I want to know what they're doing with Red Mage
probably something from 6.0 soundtrack
Remix of a dungeon theme it seems
Oh I thought it’s remix of something
It's a Gubal remix
they don't want tank players to get overwhelmed with mechanics
And instead of your melee combo "giving" 1 shot, it instead "reloads" you 6 shots.
isn't it a remix of gubal
Of the Endwalker cutscene intro
Oh really gubal?
Is it? I don't hear the main melody in it
That doesn't mean it's a remix
6 ogcds for your bullets would've been so cool
I bet you we're also going to sharlayan
Remix. To mix again

Alphy probably learnt sage in sharlayan
Are we sure they are at Gubal? Cause the Showcase cutscene zooms into La Noscea
we're talking the demo trailer not the cg trailer
oh okay
Anima music has to be like Super Tier
I don’t hear gubal in that at all
Give me an Otherworld remix
I haven't ran gubal in ages
Yeah and to compensate they can just reduce the Potency of the oGCD attacks. But could have also added more oGCD bullet abilities. Like if Heart of Stone actually used a bullet but was a stronger, lower-duration mitigator sort of like Shelltron
So you had to decide with your 6 shots to either be offensive or defensive.
Then you reload after using up your 6 shots.
Would have been a more nuanced Job design
Will there be Male Viera and Pixies there? Or female Heothgar?
Healers: you guys get 1 2 3?
I know, right
They ain't adding two new character models when they can't even give the current 2 new ones hats lol
although healers complained the most about having to do two whole things at a time
Gubal theme follows the idea of the sage music.
Pixies are genderless
so they just made heals stronger and took away dps
The dun dun dun din beginning ia there
Mam bring back healer dps tools
Along with the fast part kicking in
My money is on the Sage Job questchain being from Sharlyan. A distant relative or acquaintance of Matoya I bet.
It's alot livlier so it's throwing people off
Bringing the "lost art" of the Sharlyan medics to Eorzea.
The big 4 notes are still there in the intro like the gubal theme
They did show it inside a library looking place with the piano music, which is usually a major aspect of those dungeons
@coral kite why so you can pretend you're DPS that gets the insta queue?
Yes
Ok Ivan here that
The dun daaa dun daaa dun daaa dun daaa
I mean it's obvious to me that Anamesis is a remix of Sastasha, and it's also livlier
SGE is getting personal dps buttons so that's pretty neat.
Yes yes yes
Where does it say about Pixies and Viera?
The shorten version of sage is sag
Healers heal if you don't adjust don't play healer
It’s SGE
SAG
SAG
I vote for SAG
Healers heal but that's like 20% of my actual gameplay
Emerald weapon or omega hands 
The new job for FFXIV: EW is a SAG healer.
And it's not like i'm chadding on the other healer
It matches
Or refusing to heal
I want moogle weapons for the rest of the jobs
That was true in like 2.0-2.2 but ever since Healers started melding for +hit and then Yoshi-P deciding to balance gear and then eventually mechanics/dps checks around healers DPS'ing, that isn't the case anymore 😔
Healers healing is just because the trinity exists in this game.
It’s sge 😔
It’s gonna be the first letter the third and the last letter
Just like monk
END's teaser already has me more hype than SHB's full trailer
omg sage moogle weapons is just moogle flying around you
is it true that being in hud layout in bozja prevents you from being afk kicked?
Like spamming heals is just not doing anything in 90% of scenarios
SAG or SAE
Monk
M N K
Sage
S G E 
You give more than necessary
really? I thought that killing that sin eater and restoring the night was pretty bad ass. we don't do much in this trailer apart from bailing out Alisae and doing an emo walk on the moon
I’m a genius
But the e is silent
You're trying to call it END to avoid saying "EW" lol
Return to MOnke
consistency be damned, its SAG
I prefer MON... Hey Mon! 🇯🇲
Fan dany
Yep, stops you from showing as AFK in genersl too
Hey guys Here's a thought
The tease was literally just the Moon and Sage.
ty
And SQEX boot
I'm dumb so I always try to pronounce the abbreviations 
What if the new job is completely original to Final Fantasy XIV and not a tie into previous adaptations of the franchise?
any of you seen the leak just now?
Hopefully that becomes a Mog Store item so my erp partner can step on me with it
Necromancer should be MAN
That's a fucking garbage boot holyshit.
You'd be slipping on grass with boots with no tread
Idk bro
It'll be Reaper not Mancer.
You lie. There's none
That was very cool yes but the music in END + being on the moon + the area design and quality of the trailer really gets me
Boot gonna be PLD exclusive
we ain't getting another pet-esque Job
no no im not lying i dropped my leak here somewhere
Yes yes yes yes
Theyre making another pet job LMAO
its shaped like a stick, white/greenish
No meme
We are lucky this teaser showed alphinaud if this was NA fanfest he wouldn’t have been showed at all
Stahp

im gonna like the full trailer i feel a whole lot more

Alphinaud > Alisiae
🏃
found it, see ya peeps
The cinematic makes me sad
So if the abbreviations are arr, hw, sb, and shb, are we really gonna call endwalker ew?
Arvenald > Scions
Like fandaniel really is fucking shit up
idk it's a cool trailer but derplander doesn't do much in it
its our world of ruin
Cool kids call it END
The red creatures wol and alisaie are fighting, are they new or are they in the game already?
I honestly wish gear didn't have restrictions to certain jobs/roles. I mean if you can tank wearing nothing but a bikini, we should be able to wear all different kinds of gear
I like how Fandaniel mirrors G'raha Tia in their respective trailers
@tired shoal okay first. It's "leek" you're describing, not "leak"
Who is Luke Endwalker? New Jedi?
Devola dumb
Lol
they're an add in labrynth

Derplander doesnt have to be the only one doing things to make the trailer cool
There had to be a Star Wars thing soon enough
Alisiae and Alphinaud doing their thing was cool
Give derplander a break, man's tired
It's where you get the BLU spell The Look
Where it's a tank enmity spam skill
I don’t even have that spell lmao
I just wish Alisaie's first cinematic cutscene wasn't one where the quality was clearly not there 😔
I hope we get to see more Alisaie a pouting
???
That cloak flip was cool
LMFAO
You can’t make paladin look cool
Elaborate
on what
It’s just that simple
SQEX boot SQEX boot




