#retired-patch-6-3-discussion

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wet mountain
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I won't be able to see big damage any more with dancer no more 115k crits :(

brisk quail
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Do you not know what fan fest is?@barren karma

barren karma
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I do.....^_^

floral aurora
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Its all good. Instead think of 10,000 crit as a super big number now

wet mountain
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Yeah I know

twin atlas
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We dont know but its higly teased to be a reaper, considering both YoshiP's shirt and the necromancer jokes

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so I bet anime scythe class

mossy iron
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As long as I still do damage and boost other people's damage

twin atlas
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DRK dps

barren karma
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One issue I had with Dancer starting out was judging distance.....I would end up being too close or too far sometimes..... >_<

mossy iron
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I dun care what my numbers look like

wet mountain
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Could be something else we all thought it was chemistry or necromancer for healer

mossy iron
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Or pulling because you used your Steps too close >_>

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I got that figured out now

floral aurora
twin atlas
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I had the issue with DNC of not being able to remember to do the steps so frequently lmao

mossy iron
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Nah, I was just talking about the numbers I keep seeing people complain about

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I'm not worried about numbers if crap still dies

floral aurora
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Dance steps are my favorite part. Wish we had more during those down time moments

mossy iron
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I try to save those for packs of pulls or big annoying mobs

barren karma
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Ya know what this game needs

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I just thought of it

mossy iron
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What

pine epoch
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Hey @maiden lodge doesnt the capstone dragon mount have a similar color scheme to cruise chaser.

barren karma
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This game needs proper tartan kilts

wet mountain
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I'm guessing all those fflogs will be useless then since values are down

mossy iron
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pauses

barren karma
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we dont have kilts

mossy iron
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I could go for seeing more kilts

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I could see a Hroth in a kilt

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zones

barren karma
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this game is in desprate need of tartan kilts

floral aurora
mossy iron
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XD

kind lark
barren karma
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yea

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and the bard needs bagpipes

mossy iron
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Don't do that to my ears, Elfin

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I don't need to zone into Limsa to cats dying

barren karma
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aww I can't be the only person that actually likes a good pipe and drum band

mossy iron
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No, that's not the issue

brisk quail
mossy iron
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The issue is people playing

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'playing'

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Cue the schoolgirl skirts

barren karma
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ummm....perhaps uhhh autotune no fail bagpipes?

mossy iron
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Hm

brisk quail
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Electric bag pipes

barren karma
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that would work

mossy iron
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Electric bag pipes

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God. Dammit. Allagans.

barren karma
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bwhahahahahaha

brisk quail
spare warren
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I saw the teasr

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my only question is

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what is the other new job

barren karma
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we could beat Zenos into submission by just surrounding him and playing Scotland the brave non stop on the moon

mossy iron
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Yeah, that doesn't surprise me, Solace

spare warren
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expansion always have at least 2 new jobs

brisk quail
mossy iron
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He'd stab the bag and you know it

brisk quail
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Is the general consensus based on yoshi shirts

spare warren
mossy iron
brisk quail
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Melee dps confirmed

spare warren
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I see

barren karma
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he can't stab 200 lalas all at once playing bagpipes

brisk quail
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Maiming armor? Possibly yoshi hinted

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Reaper? Likely cuz yoshi shirt

maiden lodge
mossy iron
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No, he'd just take them all out with his freaking REAPER SCYTHE

oak pike
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Like Thanatos from hades?

serene crest
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Melee dps is confirmed and, yeah, an interview almost confirms that it's sharing maiming gear. Aside from that, however, we have to wait until May.

median plinth
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I forget, does pld have a skill where the animation turns his shield fiery? If not, its possible that wasnt paladin ardbert, but mystic knight ardbert

barren karma
maiden lodge
spare warren
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but there are already scythes in the mog station

fleet geyser
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no ardberts were shown in the trailer i believe?

mossy iron
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Yeah, that's Edda stuff

maiden lodge
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It also has the paladin colors

median plinth
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The hood and fire shield kinda led me to believe it was mystic and they were misdirecting us to believe it was pld

barren karma
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yea derplander isnt Ardbert....I dont think....they do look a bit alike tho

serene crest
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But they said that it was explicitly pally

fleet geyser
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they said it's paladin

mossy iron
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derplander is us

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so

fleet geyser
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even in the interview

median plinth
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Okay

mossy iron
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derplander = azem

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Azem = us + Ardbert

maiden lodge
median plinth
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Is that a theory sunny or confirmed

maiden lodge
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ALso the fact it uses gladiator arm.

mossy iron
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Azem being us?

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That's end story for ShB last I knew

brisk quail
spare warren
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so 1.0 Adbert was a Ranger, ARR he was a Warrior, HW he was a Dragoon, SB he switched between SAM and MNK, ShB he was DRK and now he's PLD

brisk quail
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Like that's what it felt like

sacred owl
brisk quail
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A quick OH SHIT I GOTCHU

mossy iron
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Also YoshiP was wearing a PLD shield on a necklace during the showcase

potent hornet
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quick question, who is narrating the Endwalker trailer? my friends and i are in a debate about who is talking

maiden lodge
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Also Azem is Warrior of Light, in appearance, Mister Final Fantasy--we see him in Elidibus's memories of him, and that's the form Elidibus chooses to take for reasons he doesn't understand

mossy iron
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Emet Selch

potent hornet
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I think it's Emet, they keep telling me Fandaniel

maiden lodge
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It's Fandaniel's voice actor

mossy iron
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Hm

brisk quail
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@sacred owl Sice from FFTYPE0

Wields a Scythe and uses dark/gravity/death Magics along with heavy melee damage and range

spare warren
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I thought it was Zenos... granted I play the game in english

median plinth
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The narrator is definitely emet selch

barren karma
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oh god I'm calling it now we're gonna work with Fanny >_<

mossy iron
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I swear to god Elfin

brisk quail
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@sacred owl

mossy iron
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Calling him Fanny is a thing now

maiden lodge
brisk quail
barren karma
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hey with all the twists the plot has taken so far who knows o.o

spare warren
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let's not gloss over the fact that now it's FF 14 EW

barren karma
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if I'm right tho

brisk quail
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Nah it'd be EDW

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Or END

spare warren
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EW is funier

open verge
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END is perfect

potent hornet
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I like both EW or END

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however I'm scared of how they'll abbreviate Sage

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I don't want to main SAG

barren karma
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hahha

brisk quail
open verge
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Sage

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Sge

barren karma
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what you dont like the Screen Actors Guild?

spare warren
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Healer don't sag

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the new healer adjust

barren karma
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could be uhh

brisk quail
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SGE
RPR

barren karma
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SGE?

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haha

brisk quail
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That's the two new jobs

barren karma
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a job that uses a scythe I freking hope soooo

spare warren
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well... gotta get my healer boots wet, cuz I'm getting the Sage to bring spice to this roast

mossy iron
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Now I'm trying to figure out which of my characters would fit SGE

subtle pasture
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I've seen the idea the melee job could be based on Ran'jit

spare warren
brisk quail
mossy iron
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<_<

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_>

subtle pasture
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he uses a scythe, sorta, in his Mantle of Gukumatz form

mossy iron
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You don't just ask someone how many alts they haaave

potent hornet
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anyone else sad that we're getting a melee job instead of magic dps? was hoping they'd balance the jobs 4-4 and now it's 5-3

spare warren
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Sunny

barren karma
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I haz 5 alts Sunny how many doyou have?

spare warren
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Answer the question

mossy iron
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<___<

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____>

spare warren
gaunt star
molten parrot
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over 9000

maiden lodge
brisk quail
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No wonder you're in crystal.

You degenerate

mossy iron
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glances at her list

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Uh

spare warren
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uh oh

mossy iron
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17?

barren karma
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you got me beat

spare warren
brisk quail
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./ban @mossy iron

spare warren
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SUNNY

mossy iron
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XD

brisk quail
mossy iron
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Here, let me do this

subtle pasture
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Role Quests expanding to magic dps hype

spare warren
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how do you have the time for all that????

barren karma
maiden lodge
mossy iron
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Cause I do them by character?

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I don't pick up everything on all of them

spare warren
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I give up just making a one alt

subtle pasture
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5 Role quest hype

mossy iron
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I have one character that has everything and one that literally only has SAM and LTW

barren karma
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the only real drag for my alts is unlocking hunts.....gawwd that takes ages >_<

subtle pasture
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okay so my hype still eads the Big Other City they haven't unveiled to be Sharlayan

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so what if the role quests are concerning an Archon of each of those disciplines pogianger

spare warren
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I like the Elephant people

mossy iron
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I still think it'll be on the moon

maiden lodge
barren karma
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@subtle pasture same here I do think we'll eventually see the land of eggheads.....they can't hide forever

subtle pasture
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Either sharlayan or that spaceship in the logo imo, yeah

mossy iron
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cough Allagans

maiden lodge
royal spruce
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I can't wait to see what that melee DPS will be

mossy iron
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What did Lyse's sister do

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Yda

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That's the name

royal spruce
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I thought it was going to be a caster the second job

maiden lodge
mossy iron
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Nope, melee dps confirmed

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Ouch Equinox

subtle pasture
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hey, I said archons, not scions.

mossy iron
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Ouch

woven remnant
mossy iron
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Yeah, Yda was an archon

maiden lodge
barren karma
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I'd love to go to Sharlayan and possibly meet the Twins parents.....I mean that would be a very cute reunion.....or not.....depends on what they are like. o.o

mossy iron
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Lyse only had the tattoos because Papalymo magicked them onto her

subtle pasture
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technically Yda was never a Scion

brisk quail
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Well... yda was.

Lyse wasn't

kind lark
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Lyon as our mentor

subtle pasture
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As in, it was the Circle when she died

mossy iron
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Yep

maiden lodge
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But honestly, I think too much weight on the 'Children of Bodom' shirt I honestly believe he's worn before, and not enough on the actual obvious clueshirt

mossy iron
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Wait

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No, Circle of Knowing is separate from the Archons and Scions

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Hang on, lemme find my chart

subtle pasture
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Aye, the Circle was pre-Scions

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Oh, but it was made up of Archons, aye

gaunt star
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I'm in the scythe-wielding reaper or whatever edgelord name they wanna come up, maiming gear camp

maiden lodge
barren karma
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Can I just say? I love all you guys! โค๏ธ it's so much fun to be hype with everyone here and having so much fun. ^_^

mossy iron
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โค๏ธ

subtle pasture
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Archons predate the Circle, which predates the Scions

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er, rather, Archons are the largest sphere here

pastel venture
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so since theyre adding one more category of role quests, is it likely not gonna be any more job quests in 6.0? ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

maiden lodge
mossy iron
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Found it

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Archons on the left

brisk quail
mossy iron
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CoK on the right

subtle pasture
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Our major Archon groups would be the Circle of Knowing, Students of Baldesion, and Sons of Saint Coinach

barren karma
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I wish we could get those tatoos ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

subtle pasture
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with a lot of crossover, Moenbryda was a Student and Circle member, Rammbroes is Circle and Sons

cedar plaza
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Is it possible to get a party with no healers in the new Bozjan 24-man?

mossy iron
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The archon tattoos are wtf is the thing

maiden lodge
brisk quail
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Not get

subtle pasture
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his eye is the Students iirc

mossy iron
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Archon on the left, more tattoos is higher qualifications, Circle of Knowing mark on the right

maiden lodge
mossy iron
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Hm

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Then Eye is something else

maiden lodge
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Urianger is OG Circle of Knowing. No eye tattoo.

barren karma
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perhaps he has one where we can't see it ๐Ÿ˜›

maiden lodge
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Louisoix is the FOUNDER of the Circle of Knowing. No eye tattoo.

molten parrot
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tramp stamp

subtle pasture
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Yeah, the Circle prob wasn't like,

maiden lodge
subtle pasture
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an official sharlayan group

mossy iron
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They aren't

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They're dissenters

maiden lodge
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They're a dissident group, yeah

mossy iron
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Of Sharlayan's hands off policy

maiden lodge
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The SoC sounds the better conclusion

brisk quail
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Can I write my archon's thesis on chewing bubblegum and feeling good?

mossy iron
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Aye aye

native falcon
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urianger tramp stamp

maiden lodge
mossy iron
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Only if you conclude with Kicking Ass

subtle pasture
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Did Moenbryda work with the Sons

outer fable
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so I'm lookingh at the endwalker website

subtle pasture
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I guess she did, her axe was an Allagan excavation

outer fable
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And i just noticed we're getting Ishgard housing

maiden lodge
mossy iron
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TBH, what isn't allagan in this freaking game

native falcon
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rowena gave her her axe

outer fable
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Welp, time to save my gil

brisk quail
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@maiden lodge Thancred tells a story about how he espionaged 12 women in one night in his archon thesis

subtle pasture
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As I said, there's lots of crossover,

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Rammbroes is Circle and Sons

mossy iron
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Yeah, we're getting Ishgard, but not at first

maiden lodge
mossy iron
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Too much other stuff to do when END drops

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XD

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Sounds like Thancred

maiden lodge
subtle pasture
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Really thancred got caught sleeping with a Studium professor's wife

native falcon
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i miss moenbryda

subtle pasture
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and Loui had to pass it as an Infiltration Exam

outer fable
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Ah, okay

subtle pasture
maiden lodge
brisk quail
subtle pasture
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mind, Spymasters are a respected position in Sharlayan high houses

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which reminds me

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GOD I wanna visit Sharlayan

jaunty sorrel
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is this the channel to ask about relic weapons?

mossy iron
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I wanna break into the biblioteque

jaunty sorrel
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or is it another channel?

next quarry
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this channel is fine

subtle pasture
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Knowledge in all forms is respected and highly valued, per his short story in the Tales form Shadows uWu

next quarry
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there is a pin here where the gifs are

jaunty sorrel
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with regard to the new relic weapons, what requirements change when you start the grind for the second weapon?

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I heard step two only needs to be done once

mossy iron
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Okay, but taking books and hoarding them to 'protect' them is some Alliance level BS

next quarry
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yea

subtle pasture
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CT step into DR step, I believe, bc the Mhach and Ivalice is an "intermediary"

next quarry
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step 2 is a one time thing

molten parrot
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we gonna visit sharlayan for sure. note how sage reveal trailer is in gubal library

next quarry
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maybe sage just comes from Sharlayan

mossy iron
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I freakin hope so, I have RP reasons to go there

subtle pasture
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fortunately they've clarified this will continue into the final steps

jaunty sorrel
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so to simplify things, what are the requirements for the second relic weapon then?

subtle pasture
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some repeated, some one-offs

next quarry
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just CT raids and DR/PoTD

subtle pasture
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15 CT or CE memories, then 15 DR or Palace memories

jaunty sorrel
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haven't started and wondering if I wanna do more than one

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thats why Im asking

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I appreciate the info

mossy iron
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Yeah, the second step doesn't need repeating, thank goodness

tardy ingot
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I don't even think I love any of the other weapons enough to repeat these steps a second time

royal spruce
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Why Crystal Tower why pick something that we can't undersized

mossy iron
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You can't undersize any of them

vagrant sinew
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I mean you can unsync it you just won't get the item

tardy ingot
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To repopulate them i guess.

mossy iron
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Not even the level 60 dungeons

vagrant sinew
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"repopulate"

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m8

tardy ingot
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Idk man

vagrant sinew
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alliance raid roulette should be called crystal tower roulette

tardy ingot
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Hey at least now you'll get void ark

vagrant sinew
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bc you get nothing but CT in there

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and rabanastre

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I guess

wet crown
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I stopped doing a-raid roulette

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I can't stand CT raids anymore

tardy ingot
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I'd do Ar more if I could get the nier raids in them

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But its all ct

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And world of darkness

brisk quail
royal spruce
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You know what's fun doing Crystal Tower as blue mage and ripping through it in 10 minutes

brisk quail
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Imagine not fullbluing anything

mossy iron
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Syrcus Tower is fastest, I think

royal spruce
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Level 5 death should work there right

tardy ingot
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Yeah

mossy iron
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Out of the the others you gotta dooooo

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glares at Castrum

barren karma
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how doyou do the bit where you hve to stand on the 3 platforms?

tardy ingot
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I know ultravibration works

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Idk about death

mossy iron
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Yeeepe

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sits in her SGE is Yondu camp

tardy ingot
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Healing, lasers, and shields. An unexpected combination

mossy iron
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hums 'Beef Soft Tacos' under her breath

vagrant sinew
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ikr

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it's gonna be my character's canon job now

mossy iron
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I'm looking forward to getting to new areas

vagrant sinew
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the worst thing is, I wanna do the 6.0 story as sage

mossy iron
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Hmmm

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Best idea for that is prrrrooobbabbly SCH?

vagrant sinew
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bc sage just looks so fucking cool

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problem is

mossy iron
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Since they're both Barrier Healers

vagrant sinew
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I have no idea how to play sch despite having lvl'd it to 80

mossy iron
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to practice with

tardy ingot
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Healing judge armor with the sage job

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Oh i got chicken tenders in the roulette

brisk quail
spare warren
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I assume everyone saw the english trailer

vagrant sinew
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I lvl'd sch to 80 and I still have no idea how to play it properly because I was so afraid of playing it in dungeons

mossy iron
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That's why I do Trusts

maiden lodge
mossy iron
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Cause while FF undoubtedly has an amazing community, anxiety gives to fucks

worldly whale
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i enjoy playing healers but I just can't do msq or overworld quests with them

mossy iron
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They just take a bit longer is all

brisk quail
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FFXIV ded gaem

heady shadow
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tfw you tell someone anima is female.

mossy iron
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'nu uhhhh'

maiden lodge
spare warren
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knew it

brisk quail
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Don't put your ๐Ÿ† in that

mossy iron
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In crazy, yes

heady shadow
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Hell yeah

maiden lodge
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Also i predict a tank getting bodied by a 36 hit combo

brisk quail
mossy iron
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Heal check

maiden lodge
shrewd grove
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healers adjust

mossy iron
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whistles in DNC

heady shadow
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getting pulled underground

molten parrot
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5 stacks of inv you say?

brisk quail
mossy iron
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ignores WHM urges

maiden lodge
brisk quail
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PLD: gains 5 oath gauge for each block. Unlocks a way to spend oath gauge on a damage OGCD

heady shadow
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maybe anima is a Terminus.

vivid bane
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god im so excited to see Anima again

brisk quail
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Okay cursed idea

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PLD gains 5 oath per block, 5 oath per auto AND

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5 oath whenever they reduce damage taken by a party member

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(Cover counts)

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Then they get an OGCD dps skill

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To add something to do.

steady cosmos
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Passage of arms?

brisk quail
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Yes

vivid bane
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god that'd be amazing off of PoA

brisk quail
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Passage, Divine Veil

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Whatever the off tank oath burn is

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Cover

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And

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Because of that

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Shelltron would (slightly) refund oath when you block

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Like how it used to give MP

maiden lodge
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Give them that spell they used to have that gives them attack after they block

brisk quail
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Or

brisk quail
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Have the oath burn OGCD

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Be a ranged magic attack

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AND it reduces Requi cooldown

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And gives MP back

kind lark
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imagine playing barrier healer

maiden lodge
mossy iron
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twirls her WHM staff

kind lark
maiden lodge
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raises doesnt nourish the blood lily

kind lark
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it should, add lilys to everything.

brisk quail
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Wiping doesn't nourish thr blood lily

mossy iron
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The problem is

brisk quail
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It resets it

mossy iron
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yes

brisk quail
mossy iron
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If I don't heal the tank

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I don't survive because my Blood Lily draws aggro

unique verge
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If the tank wanted heals, maybe the tank should of rolled WAR

mossy iron
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It's so pretty, you see

dull lake
brisk quail
spare warren
maiden lodge
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meanwhile savage raidwides sometimes wiping unshielded parties

gaunt star
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One message removed from a suspended account.

maiden lodge
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'but the tank wanted heals'

unique verge
gaunt star
mossy iron
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I'm freaking annoyed at healers who are so worried about their DPS that they don't do what it says on the label

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just...

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arggg

brisk quail
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@unique verge imagine only being able to heal every 60 seconds kek

maiden lodge
brisk quail
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Sucks to suck

maiden lodge
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Like, it's not the healer casting Glare that scares me when I tank.

It's that fucker spamming CURE that will let me die.

unique verge
mossy iron
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No cure

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cure 2

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wtf

maiden lodge
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I mean you don't spam cure 2 either

mossy iron
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Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but I can actually do both

maiden lodge
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Oh no, doing both is correct

mossy iron
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No, I heal when you hit 60%

unique verge
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If you're hardcasting GCD heals you're probably fucking up

mossy iron
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Or focus heals doing pulls

maiden lodge
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Oh god no, don't focus heals during pulls

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Holy stuns mitigate far more damage than any of your spells can

mossy iron
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I mean, it's that or my tank dies

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I know. Holy if I can do it without my tank dying

brisk quail
mossy iron
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then heal the tank, then more damage

maiden lodge
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If you holy, they do no damage

dense relic
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I never really use GCD heals tbh

brisk quail
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Yeah. You're sounding dumb by not using holy.

mossy iron
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FFS

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Listen

brisk quail
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Holy is the best defensive CD

mossy iron
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I said I do use Holy

maiden lodge
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And you can use benison and tetra as your pull starters

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Afflatus Solace for aoe pulls if you must, but anything more than that and your tank is screwing up

dense relic
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Or just apply medica 2 and Regen as a prepull so it basically does the job

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Enmity is not an issue anymore

unique verge
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Cure 2 should be a last resort "I have no other buttons left" option

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If you're ever using it early in a pull the tank is a fucking moron or you are.

maiden lodge
#

Sometimes the tank doesn't pop cooldowns, or is made of paper, we do get that

mossy iron
#

I get a lot of shit tanks.

#

shrug

maiden lodge
#

We all do, but even then

kind lark
#

Gunbreaker is the only tank that makes nervous to heal

shrewd grove
#

Superbolide

maiden lodge
dense relic
#

When I got into savage and I got a mentor, mentor told me that GCD heals are evil lappdedinside

maiden lodge
#

They kinda are.

#

They use up your most valuable resource to spin wheels, most of the time. They're for emergencies.

dense relic
#

And since I don't use them anymore keeping people alive feels so much easier

#

Also because the pills are just dying faster

maiden lodge
worldly whale
#

really depends how much your teammates actually do mechanics, duty finder is something of a coinflip

maiden lodge
#

A healer who dpss well in a dungeon is as good as your average dps

dense relic
#

When I go as ast I put on Regen stance give the tank two Regen skills and he is good to go so I can spam attacks

maiden lodge
worldly whale
#

usually a single aspected benefic + essential dignity per pull is enough, unless the tank is undergeared or doesn't use cooldowns

dense relic
#

But yeah starting with savage taught me a lot. This is now my second tier and e12s is nearly down. I don't regret anything as I also got better at slidecasting, resource management and preposition ing

brisk quail
dense relic
#

I always have the luck in dungeon to outdps atleadt one dps and the tank as a healer lappdedinside I really Dk on what kind of potato gear they rub

subtle pasture
#

intructions uncelar

#

this party is 2 SYN and 2 SAB

maiden lodge
dense relic
#

But yeah it's fine tho atm I'm kinda focusing on getting blu spells and crafting

worldly whale
#

blu is really fun post 5.45

maiden lodge
#

It really... is not gear.

jaunty sorrel
#

how does the rerolling work for relic weapon now?

shrewd grove
#

you can buy an item for 100 poetics that lets you change the stats on it

dense relic
#

Maybe it's just them not using the right rotation, not doing ABC who knows

jaunty sorrel
#

is it like crystal sand bullshit?

#

or eureka randomness?

shrewd grove
#

no you set the stats

maiden lodge
shrewd grove
#

however you want

jaunty sorrel
#

and is it for individual points?

#

per item is a point?

shrewd grove
#

no i think you can change all the stats at once

#

with 1 item

jaunty sorrel
#

would rather have someone who has done it verify

shrewd grove
#

grind it out yourself that way you can verify ๐Ÿ™‚

thorny sleet
#

also you don't rly need to reroll you can choose/set all stats when you turn in the 15 timeworn artefacts

jaunty sorrel
#

ah gotcha

#

you have a point there

severe brook
#

for the good of all we must adapt suspenders

mossy iron
#

We already have suspenders

#

I think they said we can turn the belts in for some sort of coin?

#

Or something like that

#

Pft

dim sigil
#

It's something about being able to turn it into the calamity salvager

sudden herald
#

So we've seen the Sage and PLD gear for 6.0, do we have any ideas for the other classes?

coral kite
#

Imean

dim sigil
#

It could just be free tomes

coral kite
#

You could hyper analyze Yoshi P's shirt

#

But otherwise no

dim sigil
#

Imagine with all the moon imagery we don't end up going to the Moon

mossy iron
#

That's how we get to the moon

sudden herald
#

that'd be the worst

mossy iron
#

We tied all the belts together

severe finch
#

I love the drk af gear

sudden herald
#

oh now thats good

coral kite
#

Whm looking to get another lame af. : )

severe finch
#

The one to the left of rdm (monk?) looks sick too

mossy iron
#

Just gotta stick to normal FF for WHM apparently

severe finch
#

Samurai also looking clean

mossy iron
#

Yeah, that looks like MNK

dim sigil
#

Whm is just another take on classix whm

thin crypt
sudden herald
#

It reminds me of the HW DRK outfit, kinda

mossy iron
#

ALC onthe far left and BSM on the far right

sudden herald
#

Though I hope this one doesnt have the strange hole in the back

coral kite
#

I mean...you kinda are

mossy iron
#

Yep

cloud valve
#

The cat though

mossy iron
#

Ronin isn't beholden to anyone

coral kite
#

SAM is more recognizable inFF

#

Than it being called Ronin

mossy iron
#

But there's SAM in Kugane

coral kite
#

For pretty much the same end effect

mossy iron
#

Just because we are Ronin, doesn't mean the Class isn't correct

brisk quail
#

Paladin isn't really an Paladin since they aren't under oath to a king/queen/organization

#

They're just freelancer

cloud valve
#

Really it comes down to which abbreviation name is better: SAM or RON

coral kite
#

Eh both mnk and sam want some speed to their kit

#

Having drg and sam share gear would be weird speed wise

severe finch
#

Deltascape

coral kite
#

Striking just needs better overall outfits

cosmic osprey
#

i second the samurai armor

brisk quail
#

Seems samurai enough

cosmic osprey
#

but this is the fending gear, no?

mossy iron
#

The headpiece really sells it

brisk quail
#

Maiming

cloud valve
#

I hope the fur lining on the WAR is good quality in game and not that weird stuff from the arr set

dim sigil
#

So is it confirmed yet if we need to repeat the second step

coral kite
#

The real question is

#

Why is that gear not strikingg

#

LOL

open verge
#

Confimred on LL yesterday

mossy iron
#

I don't like the unevenness of the bottom

cloud valve
#

Ew

kind lark
#

endwalker?

open verge
#

That set sucks

#

The tank one is dope

mossy iron
#

No, that looks like Genji

#

Which is uhhh

#

fek

#

Deltascape?

open verge
cloud valve
#

When the best samurai looking armor isn't even for SAM sad

open verge
#

Yes genji

coral kite
#

Like I said

#

Striking fashion design

#

Get it together

mossy iron
#

What the heck are they thinking

thin crypt
tiny wind
#

lmaoo raiders rcdKek

cloud valve
#

So do you all think that unsynced runs are gonna be ruined by the damage changes?

mossy iron
#

Mmm, no

#

I think it's not going to mess up stuff as much as people think

teal geyser
#

yeah worrying about damage changes is pretty silly

cloud valve
#

I thought it meant that the numbers on everything were getting lowered so it's basically doing the same damage proportionally but with smaller digits

teal geyser
#

exactly Wordyn

mossy iron
#

Basically, yeah

#

They're not changing the equations

#

just the numbers that go into them

maiden lodge
#

YOu won't roflstomp as hard in unsynched, but you'll roflstomp.

mossy iron
#

^

teal geyser
#

You'll do less numbers but things will die equally fast

cloud valve
#

But then he said something about it only being for 51 up so that's what kinda confused me

open verge
#

Just realized verholy was in the trailer not contre sixte

maiden lodge
#

And if the damage changes are what keep you from succeeding in unsynched, then the problem is not the damage changes.

teal geyser
#

Which if everything gets changed accordingly shouldn't do anything

#

r-right

mossy iron
#

_>

#

<_<

floral aurora
#

DRK players, would you be mad if we had different versions of The Blackest Night on Sage?
Sage: That bubble won't pop xD

unreal wadi
uneven cape
#

It depends

unreal wadi
#

But everyone else said Verholy

uneven cape
#

I thought it was verholy

floral aurora
open verge
#

Yep itโ€™s verholy because she goes into scorch and gets decked

subtle pasture
#

the swirling lends it to verholy

open verge
maiden lodge
#

Yeah it kinda looks Verholy but also doesn't?

But it looks like she's following up with Scorch.

#

The casting does NOT look like Verholy though

open verge
#

I mean

#

She does a melee combo

maiden lodge
#

But the casting after DOES look like Scorch

open verge
#

And displacement

cloud valve
#

I haven't unlocked verholy so idk what that even looks like namazuthink

open verge
#

Safe to to say itโ€™s verholy

subtle pasture
#

swirling blue orbs into a pillar of holy light

cloud valve
#

All i know is it was fancy

open verge
#

The scene translations with her doing Z melee move haha

maiden lodge
#

Verholy has balls of light and an orbital death laser (which fits) but nothing comes out of the focus (which is why it doesn't fit)

subtle pasture
#

vs contre's handful of blades arcing up, down, and detonating

maiden lodge
#

But I'm fine with Verholy

subtle pasture
#

clearly it's a new 80+ skill uWu

pine epoch
#

By the way in that one artwork of the DMC garlean dungeon hell scape. The magus sisters are in the artwork

subtle pasture
#

--but no really it could be

#

like imagine an oGCD akin to Contre that lets you follow with Scorch

uneven cape
#

That'd be super fun

open verge
#

She does melee,displacement,verholy, and then gets interrupted during her scorch

floral aurora
#

Empire artwork looked awesome

open verge
#

She doesnโ€™t even have instant cast scorch

pine epoch
uneven cape
#

What?!? Fun in my video game?!? That's not legal!

mossy iron
#

How dare

subtle pasture
#

new oGCD that lets you short cast Scorch obviously uWu

floral aurora
#

Of course

pine epoch
#

The ff4 Magus sisters in 14 style

subtle pasture
#

but nah yeah just a guess there

unreal wadi
open verge
#

I would mind a double casting scorch

worldly whale
#

wonder what cool ability PLD will get now that they're poster boys

floral aurora
open verge
#

Like scorch into another instant cast scorch with less potency

uneven cape
#

Yeah but srsly that would be super dope

open verge
#

Paladin canโ€™t be cool

#

Sorry

uneven cape
floral aurora
brisk quail
#

PLD is the healer

#

Move aside Whm

cloud valve
#

They get a fancier shield bash

uneven cape
#

Or heck maybe something to do with shield parrying

brisk quail
#

They TOOK it from us

uneven cape
#

Pretty much

pine epoch
#

The tall sister with spear has a bird like head, the fat sister with scythe looks like a elephant head, and the 3rd sister I cant tell what her head looks like

uneven cape
#

I don't remember shield swipe, since I started to level PLD in ShB

worldly whale
#

i think it's possible that PLD could get a heal/shield that uses gauge

brisk quail
cloud valve
#

That's an ability that takes me back

uneven cape
#

Dang boomer ability

brisk quail
floral aurora
#

6.0 coolest to okayish
Sage > AST > WHM > SCH
GNB > PLD > DRK > WAR
New Job > MCH > DNC > MNK > SMN > NIN > SAM > BLM > BRD > DRG > RDM

uneven cape
#

I remember old bard jokes

brisk quail
cloud valve
#

Now THAT'S a provoke

worldly whale
#

lamer provoke: flash

brisk quail
brisk quail
#

Flash was sick

uneven cape
#

I miss ultimatum

#

It was pretty much a second provoke

uneven cape
#

Ok in the topics of job changes

#

Stance switching in some way for warriors specifically should come back

worldly whale
#

aggro management in general is too simplified

woeful monolith
#

yes give me my anti die juice with passive health returns on gauge spending

#

and make me care about aggro again

brisk quail
floral aurora
#

It would still be a thing but too many players weren't properly managing aggro

gaunt star
floral aurora
#

SE basically said less drama if we delete it

mossy iron
#

grumbles quietly about having to do THM to get Swiftcast

odd yoke
#

lancer for blood for blood

#

to 34

uneven cape
#

I missed that part of the game

mossy iron
#

flinches

woeful monolith
#

"Boss people aren't tanking well how can we fix this?"

remove the difficulty
and yet we still have tanks who don't get that you both shouldn't have stance on as we pull

uneven cape
#

I did try but then I just never played at all

mossy iron
#

WHM stance dancing gooooo

plucky palm
#

When will 6.0 drop?

mossy iron
#

Fall

woeful monolith
#

Late in the year

plucky palm
#

December?

#

November?

uneven cape
#

Fall 2021

radiant ice
#

Was emet selch the one narrating in the new trailer?

floral aurora
#

Basically if more players did stance switching properly, we would still have it

woeful monolith
#

I'd put a singular gil at October

uneven cape
#

So somewhere from September to November

brisk quail
#

Remember this?

worldly whale
woeful monolith
#

I miss tanks having more than a 1-2-3 combo and not all being Inner Release Lite

odd yoke
rough kestrel
#

I still remember having to use flash and keep enmity up on everything aggro'd to me as a PLD.

odd yoke
woeful monolith
serene crest
uneven cape
#

I remember when inner release was unique

woeful monolith
#

Same, I miss those days

floral aurora
#

Gunbreaker is fun right now, and curious what they will change/add to it

rough kestrel
#

Narrator was Emet's audio from the dungeon

untold gull
#

Remember when TP was an atrocious thing?

uneven cape
#

Probably add more stuff

woeful monolith
#

Now everybody eats hot chip, twerks, lie, and has a 10 second no spend burst window

uneven cape
#

Kinda like what they did with SAM and RDM

maiden lodge
unique verge
#

Dark times

uneven cape
#

Dang that was how sprint worked?

maiden lodge
#

Yep.

#

SB changed that.

unique verge
#

Sprint drained your entire TP bar the moment you pressed it

woeful monolith
#

Removed all TP, it blew chunks

mossy iron
uneven cape
#

That sounds atrocious

mossy iron
#

You shush about TP

maiden lodge
#

Sprint was originally a thing only casters and healers really used

mossy iron
#

We don't talk about that

woeful monolith
#

There was also a funny haha thing you could do to monks where giving them the right AST cards would result in them running out of TP due to their incredible speed

uneven cape
#

TP actually made me think when aoeing

brisk quail
unique verge
woeful monolith
#

We could have kept them if people could handle swapping stances

unique verge
#

i.e. they should have kept the Butcher's Block combo but given it the Storm's Path effect instead.

mossy iron
#

stance dances through damage and then heals

unique verge
#

or kept the Power Slash combo but given it the Soul Eater effect

brisk quail
mossy iron
#

Stoneskin, protect

#

my old frens

uneven cape
#

I miss the deliverance animation

woeful monolith
#

Imo appealing to the lowest common denominator of people too arsed to read a guide isn't gonna pay off in the long run
but I cant deny, it's paying off insanely well for SE right now, so I'm completely off base

maiden lodge
uneven cape
#

Yeah which is why they should bring back stance switching for WAR

untold gull
#

Dude. I started way back as a Pugilist. With TP. Who can't bloody aoe in dungeons for fear of running out.

maiden lodge
#

Honestly, in the case of Paladin, they've had increased weaponskill depth, not decreased. Warrior is about the same.

woeful monolith
#

Warrior has gone down
I can eat crayons while playing now because I've got nothing to think about
no decisions to make

maiden lodge
#

So it really comes down to Dark Knight, which lost an Enmity skill (blech) and a 'You can't dark arts your 3 so here's a consolation prize' skill, so playwise, they didn't really lose.

untold gull
#

I miss dark arts

maiden lodge
unique verge
uneven cape
#

I miss being able to just heal myself with inner beast

unique verge
#

Which was frankly fucking miserable

cloud valve
#

My only complaint about WAR personally is having to build my gauge before being able to dash at things

brisk quail
#

Remember when DRK could shoot laser beams out of its hand?

unique verge
#

Oh look i have to DA every ogcd and my opener is 8 double weaves in a row

#

how fun

woeful monolith
#

I dont think it's JUST butchers block don't mishear me
but overall we lost a lot of decision making
"Healers are distracted with deaths, I'll have to swap stances and use IR here to heal myself so they can focus"
or
"I can holmgang this right now and hope my healers can cash this check for me"
or
"Fell cleave and pray"

#

now its just me use glint cleave me good now

brisk quail
#

Dark arts spam

uneven cape
#

I think what they were trying to do is that you cant control your dark power fully

#

But now it's something that you get when your TBN breaks and you get a free damage coupon

brisk quail
#

A singular free dark arts

cloud valve
#

The coupon is only good for once per order

maiden lodge
brisk quail
#

Dark arts New rule. You can only talk if you dark arts your line. Dark arts

maiden lodge
brisk quail
#

Dark arts. True. But didn't you love weaving dark arts like 8 times in a minute? Dark arts

uneven cape
#

Dark arts. True enough. Dark arts

brisk quail
#

Dark arts. Imagine tanking, this poat was sponsored by MP regen. Dark arts

unique verge
gaunt star
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

mossy iron
#

Guys

#

Guys

#

Mana shift

#

pls gib

uneven cape
#

dark arts .Remember when abyssal drain wasnt an ogcd and you could spam it.

mossy iron
#

Mana treats

uneven cape
#

DUDE

#

Why'd they take that away?

mossy iron
#

Crutch, probs

cloud valve
#

Excuse me you could do what now

uneven cape
#

It gave BLMs some utility

#

Since their essentially mana batteries

cloud valve
#

Banana batteries

brisk quail
#

Dark Arts. You used to be able to weave dark arts and abyssal drain and that was your aoe combo. Dark arts

mossy iron
#

Banananananana Batteries

uneven cape
#

New Monke job

brisk quail
#

Dark arts unleash was kinda doodoo dark arts

uneven cape
#

That's the new job. Monke

cloud valve
#

We figured out the Melee dps

mossy iron
#

Also, Manashift

#

You could shift...some of your mana, to the healer or tank or whoever needed it

uneven cape
#

Pfft

dim sigil
#

Goad

brisk quail
#

Dark arts. Pallisade. Dark arts

maiden lodge
mossy iron
#

We already talked about the TP horrors

uneven cape
#

Tbh, tp made you think

maiden lodge
mossy iron
#

See - Whoever needed it

#

But yes

brisk quail
#

Dark arts Does no one remember pallisade or misery's end dark arts?

maiden lodge
mossy iron
#

What did they do to BRD?

brisk quail
#

Dark arts.

Bard used to be crit focused. Whenever their dot crit thet got the song bonus. They had an aoe raid buff (a second one) and their straight shot was a GCD that gave em a crit boost

Dark artd

mossy iron
#

I had lots of DPS friends sprint for no reason all the dang time after they dropped TP

#

like, dude, you're pulling, knock it off

brisk quail
#

Dark arts Crit bard was best bard. Dark arts

maiden lodge
# mossy iron What did they do to BRD?

What Ynne said + they used to have a buff that drained MP as a raidwide, which was replaced with a straight raid-wide direct hit buff.

When they DID drain mp, it was based around them doing that for damage, OR doing it for mp or tp.

mossy iron
#

ahhh

tiny wind
#

i remember bow mage kek

mossy iron
#

That was one I didn't catch the differences in

brisk quail
#

Dark arts. They had AOE MANA AND TP REGEN. Dark arts

#

Dark arts. They got robbed. Dark arts

mossy iron
#

eyes Ynne

#

You ok bud

tiny wind
#

idk he has GME in his nickname

brisk quail
#

Dark arts. Yeah. Dark arts.

tiny wind
cloud valve
#

I only recently started playing archer and not having a combo was an odd thing for me to adjust to

brisk quail
tiny wind
#

dark arts yoshigasm

primal basalt
royal moat
#

Let me be controversial and say I like current dark knight way more than previous drk:D

#

Even if it is kind of a watered down warrior at times

brisk quail
mossy iron
#

Yeah, DNC is more...RNG

tiny wind
uneven cape
#

DNC's rotation IS rng

primal basalt
#

let me be controversial and say i only picked up drk this year and i don't even fucking know what dark arts is

mossy iron
#

Oh boy

#

waits for Ynne

cloud valve
#

I haven't tried DNC yet, but I did keep double checking my abilities because I thought I was messing up combos that didn't exist lol

uneven cape
#

Dark arts was something else man

brisk quail
tiny wind
#

i wanted to pick up DRK solely for the questline

royal moat
#

several people are typing

tiny wind
#

since i heard its good

primal basalt
#

and you know what else

#

i don't fucking care

dim sigil
#

Dark arts is still a skill

mossy iron
#

The question is

#

What are they going to get rid of on which classes this expac

brisk quail
#

Dark arts dark arts was like.... you know the damage buff for samurai? Before they go setsugekka? Well Drk did that for EVERY MOVE dark arts

dim sigil
#

I think the eyes open thing on Samurai doesn't actually be used for anything maybe?

cloud valve
#

Hopefully superbolide

uneven cape
#

Superbolide is funny though

cloud valve
#

True

brisk quail
#

Dark arts. They literally used it on their 123, their damage 123, everything. You dark arts to dark arts. Dark arts

dim sigil
#

I dark arts dont dark arts understand dark arts your dark arts accent

cloud valve
#

Dark arts & crafts

mossy iron
#

settles in with a book to wait out the dark arts

primal basalt
#

is this spamming?

brisk quail
#

Dark arts. So it's a meme now because they literally weaved dark arts on EVERYTHING. So it's a joke now that it's gone dark arts.

primal basalt
#

could this be considered spamming?

uneven cape
#

They really should make drk more of an mp tank

mossy iron
#

You reached deep for that one

brisk quail
#

Dark arts. How so? I'm not flooding the chat with excess text or posts. Dark arts

brisk quail
#

Dark arts. It's not like i posted the entire bee movie script. Dark arts.

cloud valve
#

X to dark arts

woven escarp
#

no encyclopedia eorzea vol 3 wearycarby

mossy iron
#

twitches

#

We don't joke about that

#

manashifts Ynne

uneven cape
#

Lol

thin crypt
mossy iron
#

...dammit

#

Now I want doritoes

dim sigil
brisk quail
#

Dark arts.
According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee, of course, flies anyway because bees don't care what humans think is impossible.
Dark Arts

cloud valve
#

I wonder if the amaro mount requirement will be adjusted or if i have to race against the release date lol

uneven cape
#

At least we still have rescue

mossy iron
#

For now

uneven cape
#

True

dim sigil
#

We need like a rescue that can do 7 targets at once

brisk quail
mossy iron
#

jumps off the edge of Titan and rescues closest party member

rain onyx
dim sigil
#

There's going to be some other reward for getting everything to 90 I assume

maiden lodge
woven escarp
#

yeah, the achievement is for shadowbringers specifically

uneven cape
#

I don't think we'll have another unpruning for a bit

brisk quail
#

Dark arts. You won't need to level sage and reaper to 80 for the moumt. Only the jobs previous. Dark arts

cloud valve
#

I mean if I almost get to 80 on everything and then they release will I need to get them to 80 too or just the classes prior to their release

dim sigil
#

The requirements are never going to change

brisk quail
#

Dark arts. No that's not how it works dark arts

mossy iron
#

Like for the tank jobs

#

You only have to get to 50 for each to get those

wintry mango
#

I hope SCH and DRK stay more or less the same

mossy iron
#

or the unicorn mount

maiden lodge
rain onyx
tiny wind
#

is POTD still the best to level other jobs?

mossy iron
#

Moar buttons

wild marsh
#

It will be for getting "master of war" and "master of magic" which still only include the up to ShB jobs

uneven cape
#

Yeah for 1-60

wintry mango
cloud valve
#

Gotcha, ty for clearing that up for me guys

tardy elm
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Does 5.5 mean that in about 3 months Cryptlurker armor will be antiquated? I still have a month to go before I can put together a full Cryptlurker armor set! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

tiny wind
brisk quail
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Dark arts. New jobs don't count for old achives for getting them all leveled. Only jobe released before/at the expac. Dark arts.

uneven cape
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60-70 is hoh

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I still do PotD for tanks and healers

brisk quail
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Dark arts. 71-80 is bozja Dark arts.

cloud valve
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So are we just losing belts or belts and a ring?

wild marsh
woven escarp
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also, can we just point and laugh at SE's chinese studio partner for fucking up not only the play arts kai tifa, but the $700 omega M/F statue

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lmao

wintry mango
uneven cape
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It's a safe environment to get used to your tools

tiny wind
primal basalt
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doesn't teach shit about positionals, though

gaunt star
mossy iron
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Truth

wintry mango
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they get faster queue times than dps so that's faster for them

wind bough
woven escarp
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go read the live letter channel, they had a whole thing about the omega statue haha

wintry mango
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generally though you can ignore dungeons that are lv. 50, 60, and 70

uneven cape
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Do people do Bozja to level alt jobs?

woven escarp
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apparently the chinese studio they partnered with decided to ship bootleg quality paint jobs

tardy elm
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Will there be new Lvl90 crafted armor?

wintry mango
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they tend to reward less exp

rain onyx
wind bough
austere bear
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Never trust the Chinese just cause they are cheap

woven escarp
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

brisk quail
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Dark Arts. Old gear from expacs past on release, Immediately become purchaseable with poetic tomestones. Meaning you can easily gear up. Dark arts.

cloud valve
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Ok thanks. Someone mentioned a ring too but I didn't recall that being said

woven escarp
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I got a chinese made tifa statue last week and she's drastically better quality than the first batch of play arts kai tifa figures haha

north ibex
cloud valve
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I appreciate you all clarifying yaycarby

brisk quail
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Dark arts. No problem. Dark arts

tiny wind
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6.0 belts, 7.0 pants? lirikHMM

tardy elm
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So no Ala mhigo Salt Flats Restoration like there was in Doma?

cloud valve
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Eventually there will be no clothes

mossy iron
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You're wearing clothes?

brisk quail
narrow heron
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Garlemald restoration when?

primal basalt
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7.0

brisk quail
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Dark arts. Or the area outside norvrant. Dark arts.

primal basalt
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need to clear out endwalker first

tiny wind
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garlemald sure looks a little destroyed

cloud valve
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The people spamming SUCH DEVASTATION during the stream lol

brisk quail
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Dark arts. You know. The area we brought aether back to. Dark arts

turbid plover
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it's a little destroyed

tiny wind
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wheres that meme from lirikHMM

median plinth
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I saw that, my gf looked over my shoulder and asked me why people kept saying that lol

narrow heron
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Such devastation meme?

brisk quail
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DARK ARTD SUCH DEVESTATION DARK ARTS

tiny wind
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ye

median plinth
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I told her, and did the voice too

untold gull
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That's gaius

brisk quail
tiny wind
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ohh must be the english dub then

cloud valve
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May or may not have been his intention

narrow heron
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That's from Gaius in the first Ultima fight