#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
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Do you not know what fan fest is?@barren karma
I do.....^_^
Its all good. Instead think of 10,000 crit as a super big number now
Yeah I know
We dont know but its higly teased to be a reaper, considering both YoshiP's shirt and the necromancer jokes
so I bet anime scythe class
As long as I still do damage and boost other people's damage
DRK dps
One issue I had with Dancer starting out was judging distance.....I would end up being too close or too far sometimes..... >_<
I dun care what my numbers look like
Could be something else we all thought it was chemistry or necromancer for healer
No way they are taking that away. Its like the Dancer's Identity
I had the issue with DNC of not being able to remember to do the steps so frequently lmao
Nah, I was just talking about the numbers I keep seeing people complain about
I'm not worried about numbers if crap still dies
Dance steps are my favorite part. Wish we had more during those down time moments
I try to save those for packs of pulls or big annoying mobs
What
Hey @maiden lodge doesnt the capstone dragon mount have a similar color scheme to cruise chaser.
This game needs proper tartan kilts
I'm guessing all those fflogs will be useless then since values are down
pauses
we dont have kilts
this game is in desprate need of tartan kilts
When Yoshida was talking about numbers changing, I was thinking he was going to delete the logs that tell you the numbers lol
XD
True scottsman kilts?
aww I can't be the only person that actually likes a good pipe and drum band
No, that's not the issue
ummm....perhaps uhhh autotune no fail bagpipes?
Hm
Electric bag pipes
that would work
bwhahahahahaha
we could beat Zenos into submission by just surrounding him and playing Scotland the brave non stop on the moon
Yeah, that doesn't surprise me, Solace
expansion always have at least 2 new jobs
Melee Scythe wielding DPS
He'd stab the bag and you know it
Is the general consensus based on yoshi shirts
confirmed?
speculation
Melee dps confirmed
I see
he can't stab 200 lalas all at once playing bagpipes
You'd be guessing wrong.
FFLogs is used to compare between each other. The same person who made FFLogs made WoWLogs.
Did WoWLogs fold after their statsquishes plural?
No, he'd just take them all out with his freaking REAPER SCYTHE
Like Thanatos from hades?
Melee dps is confirmed and, yeah, an interview almost confirms that it's sharing maiming gear. Aside from that, however, we have to wait until May.
I forget, does pld have a skill where the animation turns his shield fiery? If not, its possible that wasnt paladin ardbert, but mystic knight ardbert

Shield swipe probably
That's paladin, it's got the symbol that paladin has on its back
but there are already scythes in the mog station
no ardberts were shown in the trailer i believe?
Yeah, that's Edda stuff
It also has the paladin colors
The hood and fire shield kinda led me to believe it was mystic and they were misdirecting us to believe it was pld
yea derplander isnt Ardbert....I dont think....they do look a bit alike tho
But they said that it was explicitly pally
they said it's paladin
even in the interview
Okay
Yoshi confirmed it was PLD
The hooded robe is a reference to Ascians, and ancients.
The outfit is an obvious PLD AF5, with the dragon-holy-symbol all PLD gear has on its back, the steel and white and blue colors of Paladin....
Is that a theory sunny or confirmed
ALso the fact it uses gladiator arm.
I took it as derplader activating shield oath and blocking
so 1.0 Adbert was a Ranger, ARR he was a Warrior, HW he was a Dragoon, SB he switched between SAM and MNK, ShB he was DRK and now he's PLD
Like that's what it felt like
Would you mind telling who that is? :o
A quick OH SHIT I GOTCHU
Also YoshiP was wearing a PLD shield on a necklace during the showcase
quick question, who is narrating the Endwalker trailer? my friends and i are in a debate about who is talking
Also Azem is Warrior of Light, in appearance, Mister Final Fantasy--we see him in Elidibus's memories of him, and that's the form Elidibus chooses to take for reasons he doesn't understand
Emet Selch
Fandaniel
I think it's Emet, they keep telling me Fandaniel
It's Fandaniel's voice actor
Hm
@sacred owl Sice from FFTYPE0
Wields a Scythe and uses dark/gravity/death Magics along with heavy melee damage and range
I thought it was Zenos... granted I play the game in english
The narrator is definitely emet selch
Thank you :3
oh god I'm calling it now we're gonna work with Fanny >_<
I swear to god Elfin
@sacred owl
Calling him Fanny is a thing now
The guy.... who.... is bringing.... the Final... Days?

hey with all the twists the plot has taken so far who knows o.o
let's not gloss over the fact that now it's FF 14 EW
if I'm right tho
EW is funier
END is perfect
I like both EW or END
however I'm scared of how they'll abbreviate Sage
I don't want to main SAG
hahha
It'd be sge
what you dont like the Screen Actors Guild?
could be uhh
SGE
RPR
That's the two new jobs
a job that uses a scythe I freking hope soooo
well... gotta get my healer boots wet, cuz I'm getting the Sage to bring spice to this roast
Now I'm trying to figure out which of my characters would fit SGE
I've seen the idea the melee job could be based on Ran'jit
how many alts you have?
You have multiple characters? EWWW

he uses a scythe, sorta, in his Mantle of Gukumatz form
You don't just ask someone how many alts they haaave
anyone else sad that we're getting a melee job instead of magic dps? was hoping they'd balance the jobs 4-4 and now it's 5-3
Sunny
I haz 5 alts Sunny how many doyou have?
Answer the question


over 9000
I'd like another caster, but ultimately, we need more melee than ranged or casters, cause of the 'two melee, two ranged' fight design.
uh oh
17?
you got me beat

./ban @mossy iron
SUNNY
XD
Here, let me do this
Role Quests expanding to magic dps hype
how do you have the time for all that????

Phronesis reminds you that it's expanding to melee dps, not magic.
I give up just making a one alt
5 Role quest hype
I have one character that has everything and one that literally only has SAM and LTW
the only real drag for my alts is unlocking hunts.....gawwd that takes ages >_<
okay so my hype still eads the Big Other City they haven't unveiled to be Sharlayan
so what if the role quests are concerning an Archon of each of those disciplines 
I like the Elephant people
I still think it'll be on the moon
I'm pushing for either that or something more lunar.
@subtle pasture same here I do think we'll eventually see the land of eggheads.....they can't hide forever
Either sharlayan or that spaceship in the logo imo, yeah
cough Allagans
Ain't no melee archon. Ain't no ranged archon.
I can't wait to see what that melee DPS will be
I thought it was going to be a caster the second job
Die.
hey, I said archons, not scions.
Ouch
If we get a scythe weapon for melee dps, would we probably get beastmaster?
Yeah, Yda was an archon
COuld be anything. Scythe isn't attached to any job
I'd love to go to Sharlayan and possibly meet the Twins parents.....I mean that would be a very cute reunion.....or not.....depends on what they are like. o.o
Lyse only had the tattoos because Papalymo magicked them onto her
Well... yda was.
Lyse wasn't
Lyon as our mentor
As in, it was the Circle when she died
Yep
But honestly, I think too much weight on the 'Children of Bodom' shirt I honestly believe he's worn before, and not enough on the actual obvious clueshirt
Wait
No, Circle of Knowing is separate from the Archons and Scions
Hang on, lemme find my chart
I'm in the scythe-wielding reaper or whatever edgelord name they wanna come up, maiming gear camp
Circle of Knowing is one of the two founding groups of the Scions, along with the Path of Twelve (echo-havers.)
Archons refers to Sharlayan scholars who attained mastery in their discipline--basically a degree in their subject.
Can I just say? I love all you guys! โค๏ธ it's so much fun to be hype with everyone here and having so much fun. ^_^
โค๏ธ
Archons predate the Circle, which predates the Scions
er, rather, Archons are the largest sphere here
so since theyre adding one more category of role quests, is it likely not gonna be any more job quests in 6.0? ๐ฆ
Yeah, and there's Archons who are not themselves Circle or Scions, obviously.
And those, like G'raha, who join at a later date.
Tldr:
Yda had a degree in kicking ass.
Lyse didn't.
Papalymo gave Lyse a degree from Phoenix University so she could blend in (terribly) with the scions
CoK on the right
Our major Archon groups would be the Circle of Knowing, Students of Baldesion, and Sons of Saint Coinach
I wish we could get those tatoos ๐ฆ
with a lot of crossover, Moenbryda was a Student and Circle member, Rammbroes is Circle and Sons
Is it possible to get a party with no healers in the new Bozjan 24-man?
The archon tattoos are wtf is the thing
G'raha was not Circle of Knowing.
his eye is the Students iirc
Archon on the left, more tattoos is higher qualifications, Circle of Knowing mark on the right
G'raha has eye tattoo. Was never Circle of Knowing.
Urianger is OG Circle of Knowing. No eye tattoo.
perhaps he has one where we can't see it ๐
Louisoix is the FOUNDER of the Circle of Knowing. No eye tattoo.
tramp stamp
Yeah, the Circle prob wasn't like,
We've seen a LOT of urianger skin lately with that sleeveless dress he wears so saucily
an official sharlayan group
They're a dissident group, yeah
Of Sharlayan's hands off policy
The SoC sounds the better conclusion
Aye aye
urianger tramp stamp
Call it espionage and you're Thancred
Only if you conclude with Kicking Ass
Did Moenbryda work with the Sons
so I'm lookingh at the endwalker website
I guess she did, her axe was an Allagan excavation
And i just noticed we're getting Ishgard housing
She worked with the Students of Baldesion
TBH, what isn't allagan in this freaking game
rowena gave her her axe
Welp, time to save my gil
@maiden lodge Thancred tells a story about how he espionaged 12 women in one night in his archon thesis

Yeah, we're getting Ishgard, but not at first
'This is bullshit.'
'Yes and my major is in bullshit.'
'Good point, you pass.'
Probably in .01, as we did with Shirogane
Really thancred got caught sleeping with a Studium professor's wife
i miss moenbryda
and Loui had to pass it as an Infiltration Exam
Ah, okay

'Well, it's not my wife, and I don't like the guy, so A+'

mind, Spymasters are a respected position in Sharlayan high houses
which reminds me
GOD I wanna visit Sharlayan
is this the channel to ask about relic weapons?
I wanna break into the biblioteque
or is it another channel?
this channel is fine
Knowledge in all forms is respected and highly valued, per his short story in the Tales form Shadows 
there is a pin here where the gifs are
with regard to the new relic weapons, what requirements change when you start the grind for the second weapon?
I heard step two only needs to be done once
Okay, but taking books and hoarding them to 'protect' them is some Alliance level BS
yea
CT step into DR step, I believe, bc the Mhach and Ivalice is an "intermediary"
step 2 is a one time thing
we gonna visit sharlayan for sure. note how sage reveal trailer is in gubal library
maybe sage just comes from Sharlayan
I freakin hope so, I have RP reasons to go there
fortunately they've clarified this will continue into the final steps
so to simplify things, what are the requirements for the second relic weapon then?
some repeated, some one-offs
just CT raids and DR/PoTD
15 CT or CE memories, then 15 DR or Palace memories
haven't started and wondering if I wanna do more than one
thats why Im asking
I appreciate the info
Yeah, the second step doesn't need repeating, thank goodness
I don't even think I love any of the other weapons enough to repeat these steps a second time
Why Crystal Tower why pick something that we can't undersized
You can't undersize any of them
To repopulate them i guess.
Not even the level 60 dungeons
Idk man
alliance raid roulette should be called crystal tower roulette
Hey at least now you'll get void ark
I'd do Ar more if I could get the nier raids in them
But its all ct
And world of darkness
Imagine not full blu-ing it
You know what's fun doing Crystal Tower as blue mage and ripping through it in 10 minutes
Imagine not fullbluing anything
Syrcus Tower is fastest, I think
Level 5 death should work there right
Yeah
how doyou do the bit where you hve to stand on the 3 platforms?
Healing, lasers, and shields. An unexpected combination
hums 'Beef Soft Tacos' under her breath
I'm looking forward to getting to new areas
the worst thing is, I wanna do the 6.0 story as sage
Since they're both Barrier Healers
I have no idea how to play sch despite having lvl'd it to 80
to practice with
Fending Judge Armor.
Nuff said
I assume everyone saw the english trailer
I lvl'd sch to 80 and I still have no idea how to play it properly because I was so afraid of playing it in dungeons
That's why I do Trusts
nope, only you, game is dead, no one watches trailers
Cause while FF undoubtedly has an amazing community, anxiety gives to fucks
i enjoy playing healers but I just can't do msq or overworld quests with them
They just take a bit longer is all
FFXIV ded gaem
tfw you tell someone anima is female.
'nu uhhhh'
bondagemom primal gonna pain some folks
knew it
In crazy, yes
Hell yeah
Also i predict a tank getting bodied by a 36 hit combo
Make it 69 and we have a deal
Heal check
More like invul check
healers adjust
whistles in DNC
getting pulled underground
5 stacks of inv you say?
PLD: block block block ร23
ignores WHM urges
ting ting ting ting ting
PLD: gains 5 oath gauge for each block. Unlocks a way to spend oath gauge on a damage OGCD

maybe anima is a Terminus.
god im so excited to see Anima again
Okay cursed idea
PLD gains 5 oath per block, 5 oath per auto AND
5 oath whenever they reduce damage taken by a party member
(Cover counts)
Then they get an OGCD dps skill
To add something to do.
Passage of arms?
Yes
god that'd be amazing off of PoA
Passage, Divine Veil
Whatever the off tank oath burn is
Cover
And
Because of that
Shelltron would (slightly) refund oath when you block
Like how it used to give MP
Give them that spell they used to have that gives them attack after they block
Or
Have the oath burn OGCD
Be a ranged magic attack
AND it reduces Requi cooldown
And gives MP back
imagine playing barrier healer
regens won't let you survive a oneshot
twirls her WHM staff
I never said that I wanted the tank to live, blood for the blood lily
raises doesnt nourish the blood lily
it should, add lilys to everything.
Wiping doesn't nourish thr blood lily
The problem is
It resets it
yes

If the tank wanted heals, maybe the tank should of rolled WAR
It's so pretty, you see
Just plat PLD.
Become what you must... your own healer

meanwhile savage raidwides sometimes wiping unshielded parties
One message removed from a suspended account.
'but the tank wanted heals'
Pfft, PLD is a shitty healer compared to WAR. WAR be like "Oh, i need to refill my HP? pops NF and refills HP in one hit"
One message removed from a suspended account.
I'm freaking annoyed at healers who are so worried about their DPS that they don't do what it says on the label
just...
arggg
@unique verge imagine only being able to heal every 60 seconds 
Honestly, I've had more trouble staying alive with healers who spam heals than those who do damage.
Sucks to suck
Like, it's not the healer casting Glare that scares me when I tank.
It's that fucker spamming CURE that will let me die.
Imagine needing to heal more often than that.
I mean you don't spam cure 2 either
Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but I can actually do both
Oh no, doing both is correct
No, I heal when you hit 60%
If you're hardcasting GCD heals you're probably fucking up
Or focus heals doing pulls
Oh god no, don't focus heals during pulls
Holy stuns mitigate far more damage than any of your spells can
Stun > heal
then heal the tank, then more damage
If you holy, they do no damage
I never really use GCD heals tbh
Yeah. You're sounding dumb by not using holy.
Holy is the best defensive CD
I said I do use Holy
And you can use benison and tetra as your pull starters
Afflatus Solace for aoe pulls if you must, but anything more than that and your tank is screwing up
Or just apply medica 2 and Regen as a prepull so it basically does the job
Enmity is not an issue anymore
Cure 2 should be a last resort "I have no other buttons left" option
If you're ever using it early in a pull the tank is a fucking moron or you are.
Sometimes the tank doesn't pop cooldowns, or is made of paper, we do get that
We all do, but even then
Gunbreaker is the only tank that makes nervous to heal
Superbolide
Also the tank with 100% cooldown coverage
When I got into savage and I got a mentor, mentor told me that GCD heals are evil 
They kinda are.
They use up your most valuable resource to spin wheels, most of the time. They're for emergencies.
And since I don't use them anymore keeping people alive feels so much easier
Also because the pills are just dying faster
Which means you have more cooldowns available to heal more pulls
really depends how much your teammates actually do mechanics, duty finder is something of a coinflip
A healer who dpss well in a dungeon is as good as your average dps
When I go as ast I put on Regen stance give the tank two Regen skills and he is good to go so I can spam attacks
Or you can combust two mobs mid pull.
usually a single aspected benefic + essential dignity per pull is enough, unless the tank is undergeared or doesn't use cooldowns
But yeah starting with savage taught me a lot. This is now my second tier and e12s is nearly down. I don't regret anything as I also got better at slidecasting, resource management and preposition ing
A dungeon consists of 4 party members.
Tanky dps
Dps with heals
2 ร Dps with better dps than the other two
I always have the luck in dungeon to outdps atleadt one dps and the tank as a healer
I really Dk on what kind of potato gear they rub
Unfortunately, this is not accurate. It's usually
One tank who does Stormblood tank dps thinking his crits are big
One dps doing Shadowbringers healer dps thinking his crits are big
One healer doing the first dps's damage wondering why dungeons take so long
One dps actually doing the work
But yeah it's fine tho atm I'm kinda focusing on getting blu spells and crafting
blu is really fun post 5.45
It's not gear.
It really... is not gear.
how does the rerolling work for relic weapon now?
you can buy an item for 100 poetics that lets you change the stats on it
Maybe it's just them not using the right rotation, not doing ABC who knows
no you set the stats
Mostly the latter, yeah
however you want
would rather have someone who has done it verify
grind it out yourself that way you can verify ๐
also you don't rly need to reroll you can choose/set all stats when you turn in the 15 timeworn artefacts
for the good of all we must adapt suspenders
We already have suspenders
I think they said we can turn the belts in for some sort of coin?
Or something like that
Pft
It's something about being able to turn it into the calamity salvager
So we've seen the Sage and PLD gear for 6.0, do we have any ideas for the other classes?
Imean
It could just be free tomes
Imagine with all the moon imagery we don't end up going to the Moon
That's how we get to the moon
that'd be the worst
We tied all the belts together
oh now thats good
Whm looking to get another lame af. : )
The one to the left of rdm (monk?) looks sick too
Just gotta stick to normal FF for WHM apparently
Samurai also looking clean
Yeah, that looks like MNK
Whm is just another take on classix whm
It reminds me of the HW DRK outfit, kinda
ALC onthe far left and BSM on the far right
Though I hope this one doesnt have the strange hole in the back
I mean...you kinda are
Yep
The cat though
Ronin isn't beholden to anyone
But there's SAM in Kugane
For pretty much the same end effect
Just because we are Ronin, doesn't mean the Class isn't correct
Paladin isn't really an Paladin since they aren't under oath to a king/queen/organization

They're just freelancer
Really it comes down to which abbreviation name is better: SAM or RON
Eh both mnk and sam want some speed to their kit
Having drg and sam share gear would be weird speed wise
Deltascape
Striking just needs better overall outfits
i second the samurai armor
but this is the fending gear, no?
The headpiece really sells it
Maiming
I hope the fur lining on the WAR is good quality in game and not that weird stuff from the arr set
So is it confirmed yet if we need to repeat the second step
Donโt need to repeat
Confimred on LL yesterday
Because this is striking
I don't like the unevenness of the bottom
Ew
endwalker?
When the best samurai looking armor isn't even for SAM 
Yes genji
What the heck are they thinking
when cross data center launches
lmaoo raiders 
So do you all think that unsynced runs are gonna be ruined by the damage changes?
yeah worrying about damage changes is pretty silly
I thought it meant that the numbers on everything were getting lowered so it's basically doing the same damage proportionally but with smaller digits
exactly Wordyn
Basically, yeah
They're not changing the equations
just the numbers that go into them
YOu won't roflstomp as hard in unsynched, but you'll roflstomp.
^
You'll do less numbers but things will die equally fast
But then he said something about it only being for 51 up so that's what kinda confused me
Just realized verholy was in the trailer not contre sixte
And if the damage changes are what keep you from succeeding in unsynched, then the problem is not the damage changes.
That's more for stat squishing
Which if everything gets changed accordingly shouldn't do anything
r-right
DRK players, would you be mad if we had different versions of The Blackest Night on Sage?
Sage: That bubble won't pop xD
i actually thought it was Contre Sixte
It depends
But everyone else said Verholy
I thought it was verholy
It is that
Yep itโs verholy because she goes into scorch and gets decked
the swirling lends it to verholy

Yeah it kinda looks Verholy but also doesn't?
But it looks like she's following up with Scorch.
The casting does NOT look like Verholy though
But the casting after DOES look like Scorch
And displacement
I haven't unlocked verholy so idk what that even looks like 
Safe to to say itโs verholy
swirling blue orbs into a pillar of holy light
All i know is it was fancy
The scene translations with her doing Z melee move 
Verholy has balls of light and an orbital death laser (which fits) but nothing comes out of the focus (which is why it doesn't fit)
vs contre's handful of blades arcing up, down, and detonating
But I'm fine with Verholy
clearly it's a new 80+ skill 
By the way in that one artwork of the DMC garlean dungeon hell scape. The magus sisters are in the artwork
--but no really it could be
like imagine an oGCD akin to Contre that lets you follow with Scorch
That'd be super fun
She does melee,displacement,verholy, and then gets interrupted during her scorch
Empire artwork looked awesome
What?!? Fun in my video game?!? That's not legal!
How dare
new oGCD that lets you short cast Scorch obviously 
Of course
The ff4 Magus sisters in 14 style
but nah yeah just a guess there

I would mind a double casting scorch
wonder what cool ability PLD will get now that they're poster boys
Still hyped for Anima!
Like scorch into another instant cast scorch with less potency
Yeah but srsly that would be super dope
Wouldn't be surprised if they got a raise

They get a fancier shield bash
Or heck maybe something to do with shield parrying
So shield swipe
They TOOK it from us
Pretty much
The tall sister with spear has a bird like head, the fat sister with scythe looks like a elephant head, and the 3rd sister I cant tell what her head looks like
I don't remember shield swipe, since I started to level PLD in ShB
i think it's possible that PLD could get a heal/shield that uses gauge
That's an ability that takes me back
Dang boomer ability
6.0 coolest to okayish
Sage > AST > WHM > SCH
GNB > PLD > DRK > WAR
New Job > MCH > DNC > MNK > SMN > NIN > SAM > BLM > BRD > DRG > RDM
I remember old bard jokes
Cooler Provoke
Now THAT'S a provoke
lamer provoke: flash
Ok in the topics of job changes
Stance switching in some way for warriors specifically should come back
aggro management in general is too simplified
yes give me my anti die juice with passive health returns on gauge spending
and make me care about aggro again
I'm this old
It would still be a thing but too many players weren't properly managing aggro
SE basically said less drama if we delete it
grumbles quietly about having to do THM to get Swiftcast
I missed that part of the game
flinches
"Boss people aren't tanking well how can we fix this?"
remove the difficulty
and yet we still have tanks who don't get that you both shouldn't have stance on as we pull
I did try but then I just never played at all
WHM stance dancing gooooo
When will 6.0 drop?
Fall
Late in the year
Fall 2021
Was emet selch the one narrating in the new trailer?
Basically if more players did stance switching properly, we would still have it
I'd put a singular gil at October
So somewhere from September to November
this is a classic national geographic moment. observe as the tanks in their natural habitat headbutt each other for the aggro to impress potential mates
I miss tanks having more than a 1-2-3 combo and not all being Inner Release Lite
No cause pugs never used it
I still remember having to use flash and keep enmity up on everything aggro'd to me as a PLD.

It hurts me in Emerald EX parties when I ask you MT or am I and get nothing but a countdown
Narrator sounded like Fandaniel to me but I could be wrong ๐
I remember when inner release was unique
Same, I miss those days
Gunbreaker is fun right now, and curious what they will change/add to it
Narrator was Emet's audio from the dungeon
Remember when TP was an atrocious thing?
Probably add more stuff
Now everybody eats hot chip, twerks, lie, and has a 10 second no spend burst window
Kinda like what they did with SAM and RDM
People 'miss' the enmity combos, but they never used them, so that's why they were deleted.
Exactly
You mean back when only PLD's could really speedrun dungeons because WAR's would lose all their TP on sprint and then couldnt fucking DPS?
Dark times
Dang that was how sprint worked?
Sprint drained your entire TP bar the moment you pressed it
Removed all TP, it blew chunks
You shush
That sounds atrocious
You shush about TP
Sprint was originally a thing only casters and healers really used
We don't talk about that
There was also a funny haha thing you could do to monks where giving them the right AST cards would result in them running out of TP due to their incredible speed
TP actually made me think when aoeing
Bro. Can I borrow a Goad? Please. I did too much aoe as a tank. Please god.
I think its worth clarifying that there's two factions there. One of which i subscribe to - the threat combos had better animations, and should have been preserved.
We could have kept them if people could handle swapping stances
i.e. they should have kept the Butcher's Block combo but given it the Storm's Path effect instead.
stance dances through damage and then heals
or kept the Power Slash combo but given it the Soul Eater effect
Yeolde drk enmity combi was sick
I miss the deliverance animation
Imo appealing to the lowest common denominator of people too arsed to read a guide isn't gonna pay off in the long run
but I cant deny, it's paying off insanely well for SE right now, so I'm completely off base
Subjective though, and doesn't really impact the original statement of tanks having the number of combos reduced.
Yeah which is why they should bring back stance switching for WAR
Dude. I started way back as a Pugilist. With TP. Who can't bloody aoe in dungeons for fear of running out.
Honestly, in the case of Paladin, they've had increased weaponskill depth, not decreased. Warrior is about the same.
Warrior has gone down
I can eat crayons while playing now because I've got nothing to think about
no decisions to make
So it really comes down to Dark Knight, which lost an Enmity skill (blech) and a 'You can't dark arts your 3 so here's a consolation prize' skill, so playwise, they didn't really lose.
I miss dark arts
Bold of you to think butcher's block is the reason.
More like "you cant Dark Arts your [everything except 1]"
I miss being able to just heal myself with inner beast
Which was frankly fucking miserable
My only complaint about WAR personally is having to build my gauge before being able to dash at things
Remember when DRK could shoot laser beams out of its hand?
I dont think it's JUST butchers block don't mishear me
but overall we lost a lot of decision making
"Healers are distracted with deaths, I'll have to swap stances and use IR here to heal myself so they can focus"
or
"I can holmgang this right now and hope my healers can cash this check for me"
or
"Fell cleave and pray"
now its just me use glint cleave me good now
Dark arts spam
I think what they were trying to do is that you cant control your dark power fully
But now it's something that you get when your TBN breaks and you get a free damage coupon
You get one free dark arts
A singular free dark arts
The coupon is only good for once per order
But, in return
"Healers are distracted with deaths, I can Nascent my way out of this to save them trouble"
or
"I can holmgang this and Nascent my way out"
or
"I can hold onto Nascent for the next tankbuster so my healers can continue damaging"
That single free dark arts does more damage than three of the old dark arts.
Dark arts. True. But didn't you love weaving dark arts like 8 times in a minute? Dark arts
Dark arts. True enough. Dark arts
blue lightning noises
Dark arts. Imagine tanking, this poat was sponsored by MP regen. Dark arts
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dark arts .Remember when abyssal drain wasnt an ogcd and you could spam it.
Mana treats
Crutch, probs
Excuse me you could do what now
Banana batteries
Dark Arts. You used to be able to weave dark arts and abyssal drain and that was your aoe combo. Dark arts
Banananananana Batteries
New Monke job
Dark arts unleash was kinda doodoo dark arts
That's the new job. Monke
We figured out the Melee dps
Also, Manashift
You could shift...some of your mana, to the healer or tank or whoever needed it
Pfft
Goad
Dark arts. Pallisade. Dark arts
It's Sumai Wrestler, the 'it's not sumo wrestler' was a clever misdirect
We already talked about the TP horrors
Tbh, tp made you think
Or the bard cause FoeRekt
Dark arts Does no one remember pallisade or misery's end dark arts?
Yeah it made you think 'fuck I wish I could aoe these mobs but I can't because I'm dry and the other dps isn't doing enough'
What did they do to BRD?
Dark arts.
Bard used to be crit focused. Whenever their dot crit thet got the song bonus. They had an aoe raid buff (a second one) and their straight shot was a GCD that gave em a crit boost
Dark artd
I had lots of DPS friends sprint for no reason all the dang time after they dropped TP
like, dude, you're pulling, knock it off
What Ynne said + they used to have a buff that drained MP as a raidwide, which was replaced with a straight raid-wide direct hit buff.
When they DID drain mp, it was based around them doing that for damage, OR doing it for mp or tp.
ahhh
i remember bow mage kek
That was one I didn't catch the differences in
Dark arts. They had AOE MANA AND TP REGEN. Dark arts
Dark arts. They got robbed. Dark arts
idk he has GME in his nickname
Dark arts. Yeah. Dark arts.

I only recently started playing archer and not having a combo was an odd thing for me to adjust to
Dark arts exactly dark arts
dark arts 
it's kinda refreshing after literally every other class in the game
Let me be controversial and say I like current dark knight way more than previous drk:D
Even if it is kind of a watered down warrior at times
Dark arts BRD is proc based. But more... rotational than DNC dark arts
Yeah, DNC is more...RNG
BRD main since 2.0 so im biased but do it boi
DNC's rotation IS rng
let me be controversial and say i only picked up drk this year and i don't even fucking know what dark arts is
I haven't tried DNC yet, but I did keep double checking my abilities because I thought I was messing up combos that didn't exist lol
Dark arts was something else man
Dark arta dark arts was an old skill. Dark arts
i wanted to pick up DRK solely for the questline
several people are typing
since i heard its good
Dark arts is still a skill
Dark arts dark arts was like.... you know the damage buff for samurai? Before they go setsugekka? Well Drk did that for EVERY MOVE dark arts
I think the eyes open thing on Samurai doesn't actually be used for anything maybe?
Hopefully superbolide
Superbolide is funny though
True
Dark arts. They literally used it on their 123, their damage 123, everything. You dark arts to dark arts. Dark arts
I dark arts dont dark arts understand dark arts your dark arts accent
Dark arts & crafts
settles in with a book to wait out the dark arts
is this spamming?
Dark arts. So it's a meme now because they literally weaved dark arts on EVERYTHING. So it's a joke now that it's gone dark arts.
could this be considered spamming?
They really should make drk more of an mp tank
You reached deep for that one
Dark arts. It's not like i posted the entire bee movie script. Dark arts.
X to dark arts
no encyclopedia eorzea vol 3 
Lol
Dark arts.
According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee, of course, flies anyway because bees don't care what humans think is impossible.
Dark Arts

I wonder if the amaro mount requirement will be adjusted or if i have to race against the release date lol
At least we still have rescue
For now
True
We need like a rescue that can do 7 targets at once
Dark arts. It'll never change. Dark arts
jumps off the edge of Titan and rescues closest party member
In terms of jobs needed? Itโs not retroactive in requirements, so you donโt need to rush Sage and the other new job to 80 to keep it
There's going to be some other reward for getting everything to 90 I assume
Gonna hop on that bus zoomzoom
yeah, the achievement is for shadowbringers specifically
I don't think we'll have another unpruning for a bit
Dark arts. You won't need to level sage and reaper to 80 for the moumt. Only the jobs previous. Dark arts
I mean if I almost get to 80 on everything and then they release will I need to get them to 80 too or just the classes prior to their release
The requirements are never going to change
Dark arts. No that's not how it works dark arts
I hope SCH and DRK stay more or less the same
or the unicorn mount
I mean, they need to make room for the new shiny buttons.
Exactly what I said, just the current existing jobs. You donโt need to worry about Sage or the new DPS
is POTD still the best to level other jobs?
Moar buttons
It will be for getting "master of war" and "master of magic" which still only include the up to ShB jobs
Yeah for 1-60
it's the best for dps
Gotcha, ty for clearing that up for me guys
Does 5.5 mean that in about 3 months Cryptlurker armor will be antiquated? I still have a month to go before I can put together a full Cryptlurker armor set! ๐ฎ
whats for tank and healer
Dark arts. New jobs don't count for old achives for getting them all leveled. Only jobe released before/at the expac. Dark arts.
Dark arts. 71-80 is bozja Dark arts.
So are we just losing belts or belts and a ring?
You'll be able to use one of each raid coin from the Nier raids to upgrade it
also, can we just point and laugh at SE's chinese studio partner for fucking up not only the play arts kai tifa, but the $700 omega M/F statue
lmao
fates, dungeons, daily roulette
It's a safe environment to get used to your tools
i see
doesn't teach shit about positionals, though
700 what now
Wait what happened to Omega?
Truth
they get faster queue times than dps so that's faster for them
No, Cryptlurker is the last tomestone set for the expansion. It wonโt be outclassed until the expansion releases, at which point it will become like ironworks/shire/scaevan currently are.
go read the live letter channel, they had a whole thing about the omega statue 
generally though you can ignore dungeons that are lv. 50, 60, and 70
Do people do Bozja to level alt jobs?
apparently the chinese studio they partnered with decided to ship bootleg quality paint jobs
Will there be new Lvl90 crafted armor?
they tend to reward less exp
Only belt. The armoury slots that belts took up are being split between weapons and rings so both of those will get 50 total slots
Just belts
Never trust the Chinese just cause they are cheap
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Dark Arts. Old gear from expacs past on release, Immediately become purchaseable with poetic tomestones. Meaning you can easily gear up. Dark arts.
Ok thanks. Someone mentioned a ring too but I didn't recall that being said
I got a chinese made tifa statue last week and she's drastically better quality than the first batch of play arts kai tifa figures 
I appreciate you all clarifying 
Dark arts. No problem. Dark arts
6.0 belts, 7.0 pants? 
So no Ala mhigo Salt Flats Restoration like there was in Doma?
Eventually there will be no clothes
You're wearing clothes?
Dark arts. Maybe the burn restoration? Dark arts
Garlemald restoration when?
7.0
Dark arts. Or the area outside norvrant. Dark arts.
need to clear out endwalker first
garlemald sure looks a little destroyed
The people spamming SUCH DEVASTATION during the stream lol
Dark arts. You know. The area we brought aether back to. Dark arts
it's a little destroyed
wheres that meme from 
I saw that, my gf looked over my shoulder and asked me why people kept saying that lol
Such devastation meme?
DARK ARTD SUCH DEVESTATION DARK ARTS
ye
I told her, and did the voice too
That's gaius
ohh must be the english dub then
May or may not have been his intention
That's from Gaius in the first Ultima fight




