retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[turbid helm]

Hildy quests kept me going tbh

[somber storm]

Hildy and Greg Island adventures

[half phoenix]

Hilde’s going to FF16

[pulsar yacht]

they said during shb live letter they wanted a break from hildebrand content (and added him as an easter egg in hereos gauntlet)

[cinder badger]

Hildy was in the Heroe's Gauntlet

[dim sigil]

Wol is gomma have a nice normal adventuring break nothong crazy for 6.1 and 6.2 at least please

[random anvil]

Hilde stuff would be so much better with voice acting

[unique verge]

Holy shit you just clicked it in my head. We can actually embrace the meme. When people are shitters, we can actually tell them to fuck off to something easier like Hello Kitty Island Adventures

[gaunt star]

LOL.

[terse token]

stubbles... any news about my stubbles sadpp

[somber storm]

No stubbles

[half phoenix]

Notice we didn’t get actual Gilgamesh in 15 because he was busy in 14, now they both vanish into the rift, OG Gilgamesh and Hildebrand will be in 16

[silk dragon]

so expect some FF4 references in endwalker ? '

[somber storm]

Only clean shaven face

Going to the moon is a big FF4 reference

[dim sigil]

I doubt its just gonna be some

[somber storm]

Also maybe Twins sacrifice

[half phoenix]

Lunar Bahamut is a big FF4 reference

[silk dragon]

but the male twin is the healer

[drowsy belfry]

Can't believe Sage is just pulling up with 4 fucking glocks

[dim sigil]

Whats tatrus outfit she gonna make tho

[cinder badger]

The moon has been a big thing in several FF games

[dim sigil]

Ya but have you gone to it in any other tho

[half phoenix]

Alphinaud and Alisaie get their outfits from their parents, or at least their father

[dim sigil]

4 had a whole overworld and dungeons and awesome post game dungoens there

[cinder badger]

Alisaie still my girl. :3

[silk dragon]

i mean the WoL is dressed as a PLD in the trailer but did the armor looked Cecil would wear?

[half phoenix]

Still miffed a healer gets funnels/bits >_>

[somber storm]

We didn't get Cecil mantights

[untold gull]

Yes, it looks like a nod to Cecil, that's not even to mention Derplander's transition from Dark Knight to Paladin

[drowsy belfry]

I mean I've been calling that for months, it was either PLD or WAR again.

[somber storm]

All 4 tanks showed up in CG. 3 of them were used by derplander

[untold gull]

It was a smart decision to go with drk poster boy for shb tbh. EW reeks of ff4 and i'm loving it

[cinder badger]

What Yoshi really said about Sage was: So when we announced the jobs for Shadowbringers, a lot of people cried that they didn't get their precious new healer they'll play for about 2 weeks and complain it sucks then go back to playing DPS

[unique verge]

But #archived-lore-spoilers promised it would be a caster!

[silk dragon]

so would the special edition of endwalker have a Cecil glamor armor

[somber storm]

Maybe

[untold gull]

Also, Derplander is so much like a rugged warrior archetype that it would look odd he'd turn into a caster

[drowsy belfry]

nono Lore-spoilers promised it'd be Gunbreaker or Machinist

[cinder badger]

If we are going full circle... why isn't the WoL a Warrior?

[turbid helm]

wish derplander kept the beard but I guess it makes sense for paladin

[somber storm]

He hasn't repaired his gear

[gaunt star]

Has Warrior in the name, it writes itself.

[untold gull]

Because first of all, his first class is Archer. Second, HEAVY FF4 REFERENCE

[silk dragon]

that ardberts thing

[turbid helm]

Warrior was my first job and I stupidly thought Warrior of Light was specific to the job you were currently using

[drowsy belfry]

I am wondering about the design choices for the PLD AF5 tho. It's very subdued compared to the past 4 AF sets. It's an actual Knight set as opposed to "Paladin"

[patent axle]

Paladin focus class

[somber storm]

Also derplander forget to repair his gear after ShB

[unique verge]

"beard" that was literally a fucking five o clock shadow

[sinful niche]

Paladin rework needed

[patent axle]

Paladin > your favorite class, the game said it

[cinder badger]

So then why isn't he a Spoony Bard?@untold gull

[turbid helm]

stubble, but nobody grows facial hair that long over one day get out of here

[untold gull]

Because you clearly ignored my second point

[gaunt star]

That's why Gladiator is the first choice given to you when starting up the game for the first time.

[patent axle]

I hate that now that i'm starting to master Paladin, we're getting close to a potential rework

[silk dragon]

that's because the Japanese text calls paladin knight

[cinder badger]

Uh... "Spoony Bard" was FF4

[drowsy belfry]

PLD's in a pretty good spot no? I doubt there'd be a major rework in the pipeline

[gaunt star]

AOE Clemency.

[turbid helm]

PLD is the best tank atm I think

[patent axle]

that would be nice

[drowsy belfry]

Unless I've been missing people complaining about PLD's entire playstyle for the past 2 years

[gaunt star]

AOE cover

^ ^ ^

Dies in 1 hit because HG on cooldown.

Hallowed Ground + AOE cover the party

[patent axle]

nooooooooooooooooooooooo it's Warrior paladin poop

[turbid helm]

my heart says warrior, but my brain said paladin

can't wait to do the fabled 8th fel cleave

[patent axle]

My heart says paladin and my what ? I don't think I have that thing you call a brain

[cinder badger]

@untold gull How did I ignore it. Spoony Bard was also from FF4

[gaunt star]

Cant wait for Warriors lvl 90 capstone skill, Fellest Cleave

[silk dragon]

what if the mentor for PLD in 6.0 is called Cecil as a nod to ff4

[gaunt star]

RDM for continued easy rotation.

[patent axle]

pls

[turbid helm]

inb4 RDM gets rework and is more complex than SMN

[jagged vigil]

Maybe I am imagining things but the person that is the narrator in the trailer does sound similar to me to Emet

[gaunt star]

SMN becomes the go-to class again.

[untold gull]

Well, Edward isn't exactly a hero character, is he

[faint dagger]

inb4 SMN literally just tacks demi-Alexander onto the end of the rotation and calls it an expansion

[untold gull]

I mean, Rosa is the one with the bow too

[patent axle]

Edward does get some development tho

[turbid helm]

I was hoping Derplander would have a Fortemps crest on his shield but oh well

[silk dragon]

or more demi summons like say shiva and or rahumt

[patent axle]

that would be cool

[quasi lava]

More likely Demi-Shinryu

[untold gull]

How about a summon style like ffxvi

[cinder badger]

Why isn't he SMILING?@turbid helm

[gaunt star]

Emet redemption arc.

[faint dagger]

i'd more take ramuh and shiva as egis ngl. ramuh egi even exists as a model

[turbid helm]

agreed. heroes should always smile

[cinder badger]

A SMILE BETTER SUITS A HERO

[drowsy belfry]

Nah I want fucking Demi-Alexander

[untold gull]

No, it's fandaniel VA, just without that insanity in his voice

[random anvil]

imagine if you could control each funnel independently of each other

[quasi lava]

FF16 isn't even out yet.

[patent axle]

i hate you

[turbid helm]

who is cutting onions in here

[silk dragon]

also we have the sheld aready its just for glamor

[gaunt star]

What's the reason we couldn't summon Ramuh Egi again?

[velvet merlin]

😭

[random anvil]

each funnel is asigned to a button
select a funnel, and then tell it what to do.

[eager fox]

I think we're all missing an important question. Why does the WoL's boots have the Square Enix logo indented in the bottom

[patent axle]

ramuh and he talks so i can hear more Benoit Allemane

[gaunt star]

Except female Au Ra because smiling only expresses how dead inside they are.

[half phoenix]

Reason for no Ramuh-egi, it’d basically do the same thing as Garuda-egi.

[turbid helm]

ramuh-egi would just be a floating beard and I want it

[patent axle]

lmao

[gaunt star]

This.

Titan Egi is literally a chicken nugget

[silk dragon]

thats why i rather have a Demi sumon

[quasi lava]

Your body can only handle 3 egi. You get around it by using Demi Bahamut and Demi Phoenix as temporary summons, instead of permanent summons

[faint dagger]

he'd just walked through the ruins of square enix HQ in garlemald and had it stuck to his shoe

[gaunt star]

He went to Mog Station.

[eager fox]

that makes sense

[turbid helm]

that just means WoL is a copyrighted character now

[faint dagger]

nah he just got that branded drip dude

[silk dragon]

or its part of his contract to show the logo

[turbid helm]

imagine if the imprint on the Moon said "SUPREME" instead

[faint dagger]

someone'll have made it by tomorrow

[quasi lava]

Or it is just a cool way to show the logo in the trailer.

[silk dragon]

thank you

[gaunt star]

Dripwalker

[silk dragon]

look at stormblood and how it showed the SE logo

[gaunt star]

FFXIV: DW

[cinder badger]

"Azys Lla was merely a setback." -Lahabreha

[turbid helm]

I actually missed the SB SE logo the first time

[untold gull]

Yeah, lol, someone went into the troublenof carving it on the gigantic stone wall

[silk dragon]

it was part of the set

[gaunt star]

That's where our subscription payments went.

[silk dragon]

they were filming on

[turbid helm]

subs went into Lyse's boobs

[gaunt star]

I'm okay with this.

[untold gull]

Subs went into getting rid of those shorts

[cinder badger]

They wanted to call it Moonwalker but then WoL might have to do a crotch grab.

[silk dragon]

that would have caused some legal issues

[turbid helm]

I wanna know how WoL brought wind to the moon

[gaunt star]

PLD gets a wind magic spell

[carmine basin]

If Moon is a zone, would you need to unlock aether currents in it. Is there aether currents in space???

[obsidian pagoda]

The Lunar Whale blows its breath onto the moon and made atmosphere

[craggy gale]

how is the air on the moon breathable but its still a rock

[obsidian pagoda]

like Bismarck in the Tempest

[silk dragon]

or it was part of the filming set for dramatic reasons

[quasi lava]

I mean, it could be the moon once had life but it become barren similar to The Burn, while still having atmosphere that is breathable

[gaunt star]

Holy Wind

[cinder badger]

Midgardsomr needa to come back for this expansion

[silk dragon]

i see the CG chars as actors

[gaunt star]

He's been sleeping for 4 years, that's long enough

[silk dragon]

tiamat had it worse

[turbid aspen]

Bro if we get some Middy action for EW I’d scream so hard

[quasi lava]

The time that passes in the real world is not the same as the time passed in game. All we know is that 5 years passed between the end of Legacy and the start of ARR

[gaunt star]

We need a timeline ><

[faint dagger]

i'd wager that a year or so has passed since omegascape, if that

[cinder badger]

When Yoshida becan to talk about those of us who were around since 1.0 I was scared he would lead into "We're removing Legacy status"

[gaunt star]

He's taking a grandpa nap

[silk dragon]

but tiamat was more tragic

[dawn wave]

i wish endwalker didn't abbreviate into EW lol....

[faint dagger]

oh damn yeah

[turbid helm]

EW isn't that bad

[faint dagger]

i'm hard expecting the Moon to be a Tempest sort of deal, considering the range of areas we have coming

[cinder badger]

lol "FINAL. END. FINALE."

[silk dragon]

for the hydlen saga

[gaunt star]

So who's ready for Garlemald Restoration

[cinder badger]

Garlemald sucks

[patent axle]

Garlemald housing would be lit tbh

[silk dragon]

too bad gaius isnt our trust this time

[rain onyx]

More like just building a new city entirely

[spiral wagon]

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/NfUXFoS2VZ0_kxNeD5h1sIuGjkOSXZH5CCCTCtpXNuc/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/764561197030178817/807442335951880222/d6dxqrulsrf61.png

[patent axle]

but what about Dalmasca restoration ?

[cinder badger]

Going to Thavnair

[dawn basin]

"Nouliths are a completely original concept to final fantasy"

AHEM

[spiral wagon]

small brain: Dalmasca Restoration
Big Brain: Thavnair Restoration

[gloomy shale]

Why is Sage called a sage when It uses technology

[silk dragon]

cid the 12th?

[gaunt star]

Take me to the moon. ♪

[patent axle]

Dalmasca > Thavnair

[gloomy shale]

I think of sage I think of mystical

[gaunt star]

Mega Brain: Moon Restoration and Housing

[dawn basin]

@spiral wagon Omega brain: Garlemald restoration

[gaunt star]

Garlemald housing when.

[spiral wagon]

[dawn basin]

When our lord and saviour says so

[patent axle]

I want to live in Ashe's homeland

[dawn basin]

But yea jus sayin, Cid burnansa was the Sage before Sages

[patent axle]

I wanna simp for Ivalice to the end

[somber storm]

Rabanastre is all sand though

[dawn basin]

Speaking of Ivalice Alliance I'm kinda hoping the next alliance raid will be Lemures from FF12: Revenant Wings

[cinder badger]

We're going to blow up the moon

[patent axle]

I can't hear you

[gaunt star]

Unless someone brings the moon down onto Eorzea.

[somber storm]

It's course, rough and gets everwhere

[silk dragon]

again?

[dawn basin]

Also who's gonna be whaling for the Whale mount?

[patent axle]

BlAh BlAh BlAh

[gaunt star]

Full circle.

[rain onyx]

insert gif of DBZ Piccolo destroying the moon

[gaunt star]

Ascians will not be the threat anymore in 6.1+.

Just the moon.

[cinder badger]

Why a whale I'd rather have Ragnarok from FFVIII

[dawn basin]

Also Stardew Valley EX? Whut?

[gaunt star]

First Yoshi calls his own game disgusting with FFXIV: EW and now he calls his players whales by giving them a literal whale mount for whaling

[craggy gale]

seeing a hort in ff is so weird

[rain onyx]

I can’t wait to have an island with over 350 different minions crowding it.

!mycollection

[lusty shadow]

Collection for Wynne Yilmaz of Gilgamesh

Mounts

139 out of 189 (73%)

Minions

361 out of 392 (92%)

Bardings

64 out of 78 (82%)

Orchestrions

399 out of 433 (92%)

Hairstyles

18 out of 25 (72%)

Emotes

81 out of 108 (75%)

Spells

80 out of 104 (76%)

Triad

210 out of 316 (66%)

Powered by https://ffxivcollect.com/

[rain onyx]

(help me)

[cinder badger]

So I notice that Alphy and Ali are in the trailer but where is G'raha Tia?

[gaunt star]

Dead

[dawn basin]

Wynne...please...by all that is holy

Touch some fucking grass

[craggy gale]

his expansion is over forget about him

[rain onyx]

The snow outside killed the grass.

[gaunt star]

Finally.

[cinder badger]

G'raha is adorable

[gaunt star]

The simp is dead

[dawn basin]

so contrary to what i WAS thinking, this wont be the last expansion in FF14

[carmine basin]

@drowsy belfry do you have that meme leak image, i feel bad reposting it since i didn't contribute to it

[cinder badger]

It's only been 10 years. Why would it end?

[craggy gale]

it's never over

[broken kettle]

Ok so wtf is that whole "removing belts" thing about, in reality ? I'm confused

[carmine basin]

G'raha was in the 5.5 msq preview though

[drowsy belfry]

Wait the old 5.0 one?

[dawn basin]

they're removing belts

[craggy gale]

theyre going to kill nomura

[gaunt star]

That was just a thrall.

[carmine basin]

For 6.0/showcase

[drowsy belfry]

OH the one Cal and I ruined UUUUUH

[dawn basin]

aka they're working on FINALLY getting rid of the god damn spaghetti code

[cinder badger]

Belts are pointless and a waste of inventory space

[gloomy shale]

that sounds like a nightmare

[gaunt star]

Are they?

Still no glamour dressers in housing ><

[broken kettle]

What belts thou ? The waist slot ?

[gloomy shale]

belts are gone from the game?

[broken kettle]

I really don't understand what that means

[cinder badger]

So scrapping belts. I can hear Nomura sobbing in another room.

[dawn basin]

Small steps but yea

[inner halo]

🦀 BELTS ARE GONE 🦀

[gloomy shale]

what is going to hold up the pants now?

[broken kettle]

The belts on the character designs, the waist equipment slot, something else ? What ?? Is it ?? About ???

[dawn basin]

Elastic waist. what are we, fucking barbarians? GTFO here with that shiiiiiid

[neat monolith]

Nomura would take them all

[gaunt star]

But belts are great for GC seals.

[cinder badger]

Belts! The item! Is getting removed

Meaning no belt slot in game

[dawn basin]

Then i suggest you turn them in

[gaunt star]

I'll wear my darkscale belt with pride till 6.0

[spiral wagon]

https://twitter.com/pookajutsu/status/1357905502609367045?s=21

Pookajutsu (@Pookajutsu)

This new #FFXIV expansion looks pretty good.

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[gaunt star]

Cleaning out all belts.

[broken kettle]

Thaaaank you

[empty moss]

15 more ring slots XD i sell most of my rings as soon as i replace

[gaunt star]

What if they're worth double once 6.0 gets out as an attempt by SE to encourage you to get rid of them.

[broken kettle]

But why are they taking them out tho ? Because they don't show on character models ?

[dawn basin]

but that means FC mom cant hit me with the belt no more, so thats good!

[carmine basin]

Im to n ar but tytytyt

[empty moss]

the 15 main arm sloty tho is nice

[gaunt star]

And then a new GC rank is released.

Now if only they can give us more inventory space

[inner halo]

Gaia: BLUSHES Why no belt

[quasi lava]

Likely, yes

[gaunt star]

10th retainer.

[broken kettle]

Cool shit

[gaunt star]

If a retainer can have 175 inventory slots, why cant i?

They want those $2 extra add-ons.

[empty moss]

losing belts alota people saw coming

[turbid helm]

I keep forgetting I can buy extra retainers

[gaunt star]

https://tenor.com/view/when-the-money-fast-money-gif-18043142

[cinder badger]

In 1.0 part of the issues with the games graphical bugginess were belts being visible on your characters, so they removed it visually but kept it as an item for stats, now they are doing away with belts completely because the stats they provide are negligible and just take up inventory space.

[turbid helm]

removing belts just further confirms that glamour is the true endgame

[gaunt star]

True.

[broken kettle]

Exactly

[cinder badger]

Fact

[pulsar yacht]

losing belts wasn't something I thought would happen but there's more important things than complaining about one piece of equipment that existst to waste time to upgrade

[turbid helm]

don't care about saving the world if I can't look pretty doing it

[gaunt star]

Go ahead and start running content now without your belt to prepare.

Or just let armoire actually hold things.

[gloomy shale]

I can't playing the game knowing their is no more belt time to uninstall

[gaunt star]

[pulsar yacht]

server will implode please understand ["then how about reducing server load from friend/blacklist?" "sorry not important enough"]

[gaunt star]

Armoire can hold the lvl 45 AF gear but not the others, it's verweird

SE can't afford a better algorithm for that, please understand.

[ember forum]

So... Fall 2021 whos gonna live till then xD honeetly, thats far from now Dx

Bad corona!!

[gaunt star]

Gonna go freeze myself outside rq, unthaw me in September

[tropic frigate]

when september ends?

[cinder badger]

Wake Me Up When September Ends

[gaunt star]

I get my vaccine in a few weeks so maybe I'll live to experience it.

[ember forum]

I am so excoted for sage like omg, but man fall is still far Dx

[tight tapir]

wave hi all!

[cinder badger]

You're not excited for sage you're just excited for another healer

[gaunt star]

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[thin crypt]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/WarlikeAffectionateAntarcticfurseal-mobile.mp4

[gaunt star]

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[ember forum]

I like sage's gameplay and anims, but rbh I'm not a fan of barrier healers I havent touched scholar ever since I started ffxiv

[dawn basin]

Soooooooo anyone got an eTA for when they release the trailer music for Endwalker?

[gloomy shale]

this happens every expansion announcement

[cinder badger]

People will pick it up and then complain that it's worse than scholar

[gloomy shale]

huge hype then like 6 months of wait

[gaunt star]

It'll be worse because everyone and their mother will play Sage.

[ember forum]

Yeah, I mean first month everyone be playing sage, then I'll probably go back to my main, which is whm

[tight tapir]

I'm honestly super curious about sage since I didn't like the pet system with scholar.

[broken kettle]

Wonder what the melee job will be

[gaunt star]

AST should use a cat.

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BLM had a cat in the AF gear preview

[ember forum]

I might get into AST though, since it'll become more of a pure heal job

[cinder badger]

WHM should turn into a tree

[gaunt star]

^

[broken kettle]

Like what punchy/slashy/stabby job's left ?

[ember forum]

Maybe something with whip

[gaunt star]

That's the final relic for WHM.

[gloomy shale]

hopefully they just finally untie the pet skills and make all on the scholar itself

[ember forum]

Like that one character in ff type 0

[lime igloo]

this game holds to a pretty strict content schedule

[tight tapir]

^^^^

[gaunt star]

Give Monk a flurry punch attack so I can larp as JoJo.

[gentle terrace]

Wait, what's the reason for removing materia before 6.0?

[broken kettle]

I think they'll more try to stick to classic ff jobs. At least I hope. That being said I thought Sage was encompassed in scholar...

[lime igloo]

they aren't releasing a new Ultimate -because- they want to hold to that schedule. barring unforeseen circumstances, it -will- release in fall 2021 (probably in late september)

[ember forum]

Hm whipblade was its name

[broken kettle]

A scythe would be weird. What job would that work with ?

[gaunt star]

Remove your belt materia like a day before 6.0

BTN.

[cinder badger]

Because belts ate going away so don't lose your materia

[gloomy shale]

maybe they will introduce a belt themed job to replace the loss of belts

[gaunt star]

But even then, you'll only lose 2 materia

[gentle terrace]

Oh I see @gaunt star

[broken kettle]

Belt whips

[ember forum]

They are removing belts, so before expabsion patch day, belts will remove automativally and be moved to calamity salvager, you should take out materias prior to that

[tight tapir]

Depends on which iteration of sage you're looking at. Some FF basically had them as super red mages

[cinder badger]

@gloomy shale you just gave Nomura a boner

[broken kettle]

Trur

[wooden edge]

Why bother taking out materia?

[gaunt star]

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[gentle terrace]

I see

[cinder badger]

@wooden edge to sell?

[gaunt star]

Fandaniel will be the only NPC with belt glam.

[gentle terrace]

Well, it's 40% of retrieving

[tight tapir]

Honestly, I hope we get more hairstyles for viera/Hrothgar x. X

[broken kettle]

Having a non caster necromancer would be weird... Could be some paladin-like stuff with a few spells I guess

[wooden edge]

Maybe crafting/gathering materia. I'm just drowning in battle materia...

[gentle terrace]

I can't imagine a Necro happening tbh

[gloomy shale]

I thought necro magic was forbidden in the lore or something

[gaunt star]

It's going to be something we haven't expected, just like Sage.

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[ember forum]

Anyways I'm so excoted about it all, the new cities, moon, sage, oof I can hardly wait

[gaunt star]

Could easily be a melee necromancer like we see in the dungeon. Lots of scythe swings with debuffs/hits, and some summons /agic thrown in

[gentle terrace]

Yeah, I hope it's gonna be a more difficult melee class

[tight tapir]

That'd be amazing omg

[gaunt star]

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[broken kettle]

I still have to cap a job I'm not ready for another expansion

[gentle terrace]

Considering how piss easy Dark Knight is, I'm not hopeful

[gaunt star]

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[tight tapir]

You'll get there :D

[cinder badger]

Gambler

[thin crypt]

the WoL kills the ascians only to become one in the end

[gaunt star]

Musketeer.

Chemist is our melee dps, you can smash bottles ontop of peoples heads

[cinder badger]

@gaunt star No

[gaunt star]

It could also be whatever the fuck ranjit was

[untold gull]

Just reposting so i have the link http://puu.sh/Hea2T/500d222086.jpg https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/571926423468507138/807532022020964362/8g02sfoz2h831.png

[gaunt star]

Musketeer, but he uses guns to beat things up instead of shooting.

[foggy coyote]

Just pistol whip for every attack

[gentle terrace]

We about to get a grim reaper class

[cinder badger]

Oh sheet. It's Ranjit

[empty moss]

so

[gentle terrace]

I'd play that class

[tight tapir]

Saaaame

[empty moss]

we guessing Necromancer

[somber storm]

Rancid Ranjit

[gaunt star]

Grim Reaper but RWBY glamour'd.

[somber storm]

Gun scythe

[gaunt star]

YOU KNOW IT'LL HAPPEN IF THEY MAKE IT.

[cinder badger]

Use the shirt. His shirt is a clue

[gaunt star]

Well, we all thought Chemist was going to be our healer and then we got Sage so they could easily surprise us with something else

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-booing-me-im-right-gif-10368876

[cinder badger]

Neighborhood

[empty moss]

RWBY is trash

[gaunt star]

It is. (But the fanbase will do it anyway.)

[gloomy shale]

what do you think the big dps CD name for "reaper" will be?

[tight tapir]

Honestly I love the idea of juggler being the next class XD

[empty moss]

its not even popular anymore

[high swan]

Execute

[broken kettle]

Librarian. Just smashed you with books. The angry dcholar

[gaunt star]

^

[stable island]

Does anyone noticed the new AF5 gear too at the showcase?

[tight tapir]

Those poor books 😢

[gaunt star]

What SCH is meant to be.

[broken kettle]

Their weapon is a whole ass bookshelf

[cinder badger]

The Filth and the Fury

[gaunt star]

Heals through the power of literacy.

[thin crypt]

im hyped for lahabread

[gloomy shale]

read those books

[tight tapir]

Ult is The Librarian Stare XD

[empty moss]

sage looks dope

[gaunt star]

*tooltips

[empty moss]

but im a WHM scrub

[tight tapir]

Same.

[gloomy shale]

glare intensifies

[gaunt star]

Fluid Aura but knocks back again.

[wind orbit]

I want that mecha draggo

[empty moss]

i hope we get to use J.J. levels of Lens Flares

[gaunt star]

So Im all aboard the scythe wielding melee class, but I just noticed this looking up viking and I hate it.

maybe im just seeing things but it looks really similar to me

[turbid helm]

Zenos too pretty to be a viking

[gaunt star]

yeah thats my first thought

[ember forum]

I'm also glad yoshi said ff will live many more years ti cime, this is such an exciting new to someone who just started ffxiv, I want to see more expansions after endwalker xd

[stable island]

The new L90 AF5 gear also looked cool.

[gaunt star]

Yoshi confirmed that he will work on FFXIV even after death.

[empty moss]

yer he did

[ember forum]

Yeah

[gaunt star]

It's in the contract he signed with SE.

[turbid helm]

more expansions after EW are fine as long as they don't suck. EW is the culmination of soooo much lore, so I'm a bit worried as to what comes after...

[dawn basin]

What are the odds that this is the outfit Tataru gives us?

[tight tapir]

Honestly if we go off ffxi I think we'll be fine

[cinder badger]

"What's a Necromancer?" -Naoki Yoshida

[compact marlin]

thats the new pvp gear

[broken kettle]

Did we get a glance of Sage's gameplay past the animations ?

[dawn basin]

oh

Welp ignore my dumb ass then

[gaunt star]

not really, they just said shield healer and can empower your own attacks

I want Sage to attack with swords too, don't just pew pew magic out of them.

[broken kettle]

They're not swords they're funnels

[turbid helm]

we have too many sword jobs as it is

[gaunt star]

*Funnel slash.

[dawn basin]

i dunno, those things flying at you at terminal velocity

[empty moss]

im gonna have to make friends tho with undersize taking a hit due to reduction of numbers

[turbid helm]

*funnel cake

[tight tapir]

PEW PEW HEALS

[compact marlin]

you where not beign dumb you ididnt know xD

[sterile galleon]

If the new melee job wields a scythe, I might be kinda split on whether to pick it or Sage

[gaunt star]

Sage.

[gaunt star]

Wouldn't be surprised if they straight up copy WoW on that too and just buff you a ton if you enter undersized but overleveled.

[dawn basin]

I more hoping its either Mystic Knight or Rune Fencer

[broken kettle]

The natural evolution of "I slap my homie on the ass for 1d8 healing damage" : "I shoot my homie in the neck for 500 healing damage"

[gaunt star]

I won't trust other new healers.

[turbid helm]

there's no melee job they could introduce that would be more interesting than sage to me

[ember forum]

Sage weapon looks similar to that one where Queen uses Cleansing slash tbh

[carmine basin]

If ultimate weapon ultima is uwu, then endwalker can be ew

[ember forum]

Just hers are longer

[cinder badger]

@turbid helm Chuck Norris

[turbid helm]

that'll be Zenos' job

[broken kettle]

Wonder if we'll get a class that can cast ultima one day

[thin crypt]

is Lahabrea the last Unsundered

[compact marlin]

hes technicaly dead

[empty moss]

but up coming boss having 440000000 hp is reaching Yiazmat FF12 levels of HP

[stable island]

Well, the damage numbers get reduced too, so no more "i did 250K damage"!

[gaunt star]

He's coming back for Thancred.

[dawn basin]

Sooooo Dragonsong War Ultimate....

I'm HOPING its gonna be both Thordan And Nidhogg fighting eachother

[sterile galleon]

-Also no gear showcase for Yorha, rip

[turbid helm]

all we're doing is going into lahabread's apartment and kicking up dirt on his couch. he's dead

[empty moss]

just look in a victoria secret mag

[rain onyx]

The 440m boss might be the Queen in DR savage

[gaunt star]

I'm pretty sure the 8man is gonna just be us fighting like, copies/echos/whatever of ALL the ascians. Zodiark isj ust remaking them or something.

[rancid needle]

zenos possessing lahabrea somehow

[carmine basin]

It's part 1 of PLL 5.5, no preview yet

[stable island]

440 million HP, that could only be a new Ultimate that was planned, or the new alliance raid boss.

[sterile galleon]

Oh neat, so is part 2 in March then

[dawn basin]

Also uuuuh

Anima

[compact marlin]

it was confirmed as beign an actual 5.5 thing xD soo not ult

[thin crypt]

i been telling ppl thancred still possessed

[turbid helm]

that's diamond wep? that looks... not very diamondy

[carmine basin]

Should be uhh a week before 5.5 release? I don't remember the timeline

[dawn basin]

So I'm GUESSING the Trials are gonna be Aeons?

[cinder badger]

April 13th

[gloomy shale]

finally my fav primal is added

[stable island]

Part 2 is may 2021.

Part 1 is early april, the 5th i believe

[dawn basin]

Like we had the warring triad, the four lords, the Weapons, now Aeons?

[empty moss]

wait no Yiazmat only had 50112254 hp

[cinder badger]

PS5 version beta released same day as patch

[dull atlas]

Anima is more of a Eikon, no?

[carmine basin]

Dreamy, were talking about PLL, not 5.5 release

[empty moss]

so FF14 took that crown

[cinder badger]

CEO couldn't shut up

[stable island]

I know.

[sterile galleon]

Yo, Alphi in high heels

[turbid helm]

alphie lookin' cuter than ali in the trailer. what is this injustice

[carmine basin]

Part 1 PLL already happened, you don't.

[gaunt star]

Take me to the Moon intensifies.

[dawn basin]

Alphinaud:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjqJAd3Gk7s&ab_channel=Michael'sWorldATM

[cinder badger]

Ali still my girl. <3

[turbid helm]

Ali still our daughter

[stable island]

@carmine basin

Ah, okay. Thought it was the patch itself.

[carmine basin]

Anyway 2nd PLL for 5.5 should be a week ish before 13th april

[compact marlin]

that should be when we get the teaser

[dawn basin]

ok so Thavnair

[empty moss]

i just love the contrast of the Trailer MC and my MC

[turbid helm]

bayonetta moon lookin' pretty sus

[dawn basin]

ALSO LOOK AT THAT FUCKING RIVER DUDE

[cinder badger]

@dawn basin Lalah gets to go home

[turbid helm]

we're headin' to brazil boys

[carmine basin]

Thavnair is more like uhh India?

[cinder badger]

The Aht Urgahn of FFXIV

[rare sinew]

Im surprised on the India theme

[turbid helm]

idk I was just making a amazon river comparison but yeah thicc bois are more south asia

[empty moss]

new areas giving me Aztec vibs , Trainspotter vibes , 6/8/1945 vibes and Slanneshi realm vibes

[gloomy shale]

is radz at han in uldah?

[glacial lance]

@dawn basin that armor set is this seasons ranked pvp reward

[cinder badger]

@gloomy shale Thavnair

[unique verge]

Just saying, what the fuck is with Source societies building their cities on top of godawful pillars of rock. Its an engineering nightmare.

[turbid helm]

I'm getting a baldur's gate vibe from those towers

[dawn basin]

Ranked? Aw man...

[carmine basin]

It's fantasy balmerick, let them design a city that isn't feasible irl

[unique verge]

That's irrelevant. That's three of them now.

[turbid helm]

my WoL is gonna go into cardiac arrest just climbing those stairs

[cinder badger]

Will we become a complete ancient

[dawn basin]

your fault for skipping leg day

[gloomy shale]

so what other main character is gonna be the Reaper job?

[turbid helm]

more like cardio. I just teleport everywhere

[unique verge]

None of them because lolreaper

[empty moss]

new class , Corpse Dancer

[cinder badger]

@turbid helm oh my God so many stairs I'd like to find the man who invented the stairs and push him down the stairs just so he could see how stupid stairs are

[dawn basin]

idk how id feel about a necromancer. That doesn't really scream HERO does it?

[cinder badger]

Don't just look at the Skeleton on his shirt and think necromancer

[empty moss]

and Dark Knight

[gloomy shale]

well usually the jobs are on main characters right?

[turbid helm]

I wanna toss a slinky down them

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carry-ace-ventura-pet-gif-4203949

[cinder badger]

There tends to be a deeper meaning in his shirts. Like how the Spider-Man shirt was Samurai because Sam Rami

[empty moss]

gate keeper

barriers and gate to the after life

[turbid helm]

the general consensus is that his shirt is a templar reference but idk that was maybe a meme

[empty moss]

we use Keys as weapons

[unique verge]

The "general consensus" is fucking dumb. Have you seen the actual logic they used to get there?

[dawn basin]

Templar would just fit into paladin which is our poster boi for EW

[thorn plinth]

Since ppl pointing up a scyther user as a job. İt might be possible, new city design and culture reminded me Aztec culture.
There is a goddess named at Goddess Mictecacihuatl was known as the “lady of the dead from Aztec culture. Since Final Fantasy likes inspired from Mytology and Goddess.İt might be possibble.
There is also a İvalice Queen Remedi in Final fantasy who uses Scyther as a weapon.
https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/Queen_Remedi

[turbid helm]

lol yep

[unique verge]

Remember - the "general consensus" also told you we'd get Chemist, Male Viera, etc.

[empty moss]

ow no she's hot

[sterile galleon]

The general consensus also told us we'd go to Radz at Han fyi

[turbid helm]

we did get male viera though, it's called cat boy with bunny ears

[severe finch]

I saw everyone say sharlayan, not radz at han

[unique verge]

Nonsense. People were predicting Garlemald sure, but that was obvious. Nobody was saying Radz at Han

[sterile galleon]

Not the folks I spoke with

[cinder badger]

But a lot of final fantasies draw is Norse mythology

[empty moss]

and arabic

[ember forum]

Is it possible to queue for DR nornal without having to go to gangos every time?

[empty moss]

bahamut is arabian

[unreal wadi]

no

you could use PF

[high swan]

Moonwalker! They missed out big time not calling it Moonwalker

[cinder badger]

I already made that joke@high swan

[turbid helm]

guess that means your joke wasn't very original

[high swan]

I thought of it as soon as i seen the name Endwalker

And i said it in this chat, but it was going so fast

[empty moss]

na thay missed out calling it moonraker

[carmine basin]

People were definitely saying we'd go there before

[fallen girder]

Wasn't 7.0 supposed to be the moon expansion

[gloomy shale]

Will someone be walking at the end of endwalker?

[unique verge]

I appreciate this boomer-tier reference

[cinder badger]

They actually meant to call it Friendwalker because of your relationship with Zenos

[turbid helm]

Does that means Zenos is a Bond Villain? He certainly fits the bill

[empty moss]

we blast fardanle out of an airlock

[empty moss]

naa Zenos is the Bond Girl

[turbid helm]

calm down javik

[high swan]

@cinder badger Submit to defeat

[twin atlas]

Maybe we will get male viera in the next fan fest tho, as for Chemist I doubt it so so much, like it wouldnt be a melee dps

[unique verge]

No we wont. Male Viera is never going to be a thing.

[twin atlas]

I bet we get anime reaper job

[cosmic herald]

https://twitter.com/shiro_hnkt/status/1357887953259798528

しろ@FF14・ポケモン (@shiro_hnkt)

R.I.P. #FF14 #FFXIV新情報発表会

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[twin atlas]

We dont know that lol and its baseless to say that. Im not holding my breath tho

[unique verge]

its not baseless, its logic.

[delicate sinew]

OOF that would be awfully crappy

[shy rain]

Bye Nocturnal you will not be missed

[twin atlas]

Logically we would get them, it would make them a ton of money. We will see, we literally have no idea about it lol

[unique verge]

Nocturnal was always fucking shit anyway. So good riddance.

[empty moss]

making AST pure healer might make it a less efficent WHM

[turbid helm]

you guys think we're getting male viera when they can't even give female viera hats. hm...

[cosmic herald]

https://twitter.com/Hikasen_ffxiv/status/1357912257305452545/photo/1

장례식이 아니라 축제중인 머뎌오 (@Hikasen_ffxiv)

https://t.co/IR0bXftN9K

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Twitter · Feb 6, 2021, 4:41 AM

[cinder badger]

So does that mean astrologian is going to be pure healer

[twin atlas]

I bet theyre gonna dumb it down even more

[obsidian pagoda]

Yes

[thorn plinth]

They inspired from a lot of things like Eden 12 boss inspired from Greek/Rome culture
https://turkisharchaeonews.net/museum/ephesus-museum-selçuk
E12 boss looks like this statue

[shy rain]

I have someone saying it is unfair because people lose their identity LOL ast had no healing one it was yugioh.

[empty moss]

they should make Astro Buff Healer

[twin atlas]

I dont think theyre ever gonna update the current genders bh, theyll probs make what would make them money which is missing genders or maybe even nothing, I dont see it being worth it to update considering very few ppl will switch to them because of hats. Still wish they did tho, just dont seei t after theyve been saying they will for 2 years. We're getting egi glam 2

[turbid helm]

they should give astro a duel disk and then I'll consider leveling one

[twin atlas]

Astro is probs gonna loose what little class identity it had left lol

[stable island]

Well, it gets replaced by Sage....

Anyway, i wonder more if AST keeps the party buffs, or that it changes to self buffs like the new Sage and WHM.

[cosmic herald]

https://twitter.com/AkiterraGoombah/status/1302626088200347649/photo/1

(Cuddling my Estinien paintings) (@AkiterraGoombah)

@AthenaWX YES. THIS.

Though I also imagine:

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[empty moss]

AST should be able to summon BEWD

[cinder badger]

So hey estinien

[turbid helm]

Exodia LB3 please

[empty moss]

https://youtu.be/x6FX-NJqs8Y

[unique verge]

In other thoughts

Estinien continues to stretch disbelief if you didnt do the DRG story quest in ARR.

[turbid helm]

my biggest childhood flex was getting a BEWD 1st edition in my first booster back

[empty moss]

hmm

[unique verge]

Like imagine unlocking DRG now, or worse after Estinien signs on as an actual scion. How jarring.

[empty moss]

i mean he has changed prospective

[turbid helm]

would estinien actually become a scion?

[hollow fox]

I did DRG after HW was like hmm definitely meant to be done before

[cinder badger]

Everybody is excited about Estinien as trust buddy but I'm waiting for them to announce Gaius

[turbid helm]

we already got thancred GNB so idk if it'll happen

[cinder badger]

But Gaius isn't a gun breaker

[gloomy shale]

Thancred going reaper this expansion

[hollow fox]

Maybe not join the Scions official but I can see him helping out with stuff

[turbid helm]

no but he uses a gunblade

[empty moss]

as WHM

[unique verge]

I mean, Estinien was made Trust because they needed a 1:1 replacement for Ryne in the UI, who is unavailable for non-First content.

Gaius is probably gonna die in 5.5

[somber storm]

The potato squad

[empty moss]

seems too obvious

[somber storm]

The potato squad would make him one

[lime estuary]

The more I think about it, the more hype I am that we're finally actually ending a decade long story arc. Partly to just... finally see the end of this all, but also because it leads into the next possibly decade long arc. I gotta imagine thats relieving to the 14 team given that they can tie up a ton of loose threads and focus on new stuff finally, maybe even going to the New World or Meracydia.

[cinder badger]

People used Ryne?

[turbid helm]

would suck to lose gaius right before we head to garlemald, but yeah...

[unique verge]

I dont mean that Duskwight guy is gonna execute him or anything. I think Gaius is gonna throw his life away to save someone from Valens.

[empty moss]

i dont think Gaius will die , we need a replacemtn leader bc garlimald is in the gutter

[cinder badger]

Gaius Has the strength rule

[unique verge]

I dont think Garlemald can actually be salvaged based on what we saw in the showcase.

[empty moss]

unless we going the burn it to the ground route

[cinder badger]

He said so in 2.0

[empty moss]

we pull a rome vs carthage

[slow valley]

I think Gaius stays our bishi, yeah. I mean, they just have to do that scene where he returns to the trashed Garlemald and cries/screams

[unique verge]

Like....there's not gonna be anything left but ruins and burned out buildings.

[turbid helm]

garlemald housing is just gonna be a cardboard box at this rate

[empty moss]

patch 6.2 Return of the King

[slow valley]

"Uncle Owen... Aunt Beru...."

[empty moss]

6,000,000,000gil

[turbid helm]

that's some pretty steep property tax

[cinder badger]

Someone in the chats mentioned Gundam and Yoshida pointed to his first shirt thay said "No comment"

[unique verge]

and with the towers generating "tempered" soldiers for them, there's an actual story-reason why they'll fight "to the last man"

[turbid helm]

who are they tempered to, though? fandaniel? zodiark?

[stable island]

There is one thingy though.....

How do they do the transistion from 6.0 to 6.1?

6.1 is an new adventure seperate from the Hydealyn vs Zodiark arc, but if it is 100% seperate, players should be able to do it without even touching the 2.0-6.0 MSQ, that is not really logical, so i think it will be a new adventure but with a very loose connection to the previous story.

Like a new dawn with a new adventure. The WoL goes on while the old friends stop.

[unique verge]

Who knows. Its not normal tempering so can really tell.

[unique verge]

6.1+ = The Sound, most likely, as the new overarching evil.

[turbid helm]

inb4 cid reverse engineers the towers and uses 5G to untemper everyone

[empty moss]

impacts to the world will still be a cause and effect , just not directly influenced by ascians and hidalyn ect

ala garlimald will still be wreched

[rain onyx]

6.x can be helping clean up the mess caused by the towers

[cinder badger]

How do we get to kill hydalyn

[empty moss]

with alota dps

[wild marsh]

And we have so much of the planet we haven't been to yet

[stable island]

Good point, so a new adventure with new friends from 6.1 onward.

[turbid helm]

we chip away at her with a rock hammer

[unique verge]

Anything can be killed with the right amount of force.

[empty moss]

basicly 6.1+ will be a new saga

[cinder badger]

I mean she is a primal and that's what we do... kill primals

[gusty quest]

People die when they're killed

[unique verge]

Also, just saying, i'm waiting for the Doom Eternal moment where Zenos has to fire a giant fucking cannon at the moon to get at Zodiark

[drifting prawn]

Is there going to be a new class?

[faint dagger]

yes. 2. well, jobs, no new class

[drifting prawn]

What are they?

[unique verge]

......

[rain onyx]

In terms of major continents we still have “Basically America” with the Western Continent, and “Basically Australia” with Meracydia to the south

[turbid helm]

Mercy and Reaper from Overwatch

[wild marsh]

DK64

[faint dagger]

sage and don't know

[stable island]

And the DPS and other stats goes gutted with 80%, but the Enemies HP/strength too.

Looks like WoW Shadowlands, Blizzard even cut the max level from 120 to 60 and adjusting stats down with enemies.

[rain onyx]

Sage being a Healer and the unknown being a melee DPS

[unique verge]

"Basically Australia" because its filled with animals dragons that can kill you in a thousand different ways?

[unreal wadi]

Oh fuck I just realised

[faint dagger]

Smart money is on Templar, possible Necromancer and possible Beastmaster

or something entirely different because who called sage lol

[unreal wadi]

the one singing Ultima, was fucking Koji Fox

[turbid helm]

I don't think it's either one of those lol

[rain onyx]

Also it’s a giant wasteland that no one wants to go to.

[cinder badger]

How can it possibly be Templar

[wild marsh]

"Basically Australia" because every mob has a poison DoT on hit

[turbid helm]

Templar is basically Knight which is already Paladin

[unreal wadi]

@faint dagger dude I just want a fucking class that uses a deathscythe

[empty moss]

no healing just pure DPS

[gloomy shale]

I want a giant 2 hand hammer job

[obsidian pagoda]

Templar/Holy knight is just too close in feel to Paladin

[unreal wadi]

Is it that hard of an ask?

[faint dagger]

i stan beastmaster. i will never back down.

they told me there was a chance

[turbid helm]

Beastmaster would be dope tbh

[empty moss]

Templars > holy XD i know too much history to make that connection

[unique verge]

Beastmaster if its a limited job. If its not a limited job, its almost certainly going on the Maiming armor set - so think heavy armor but still a DPS. My bet is on Judge or a Judge-like class, or on a "Legatus" job that uses the Garlean gunblade style of fighting.

[turbid helm]

Anything but Necromancer. Such a weird job for FF14

[faint dagger]

beastmaster is announced
followed by a rush on Grand Cosmos for people to fill out the glam set

[untold gull]

so random thought. Fandaniel's cloak is like Rubicante's red

[unique verge]

Kill with fire.

[cinder badger]

Plus it would be hard to make a Templar that isn't heavy armored so even if it wasn't like Paladin it would still be a tank because it wears heavy armor

[gloomy shale]

maybe a spiritmaster?

[stable island]

What would be the next end-game city with the new Tomes you think?

I think that city revealed in Thavnair gets the tome vendors in 6.0, it is a port town and prime location for Rowena's buisness.

[turbid helm]

Some people speculated Mystic Knight

[unreal wadi]

It was Radz at Han

[untold gull]

I'm guessing Radz at han

[faint dagger]

point is with necromancer, am I not wrong that it's kinda an archetype that doesn't happen in the East? What with the larger taboo on death?

[unreal wadi]

Yoshi-p mentioned that it would be like Eulmore

[rain onyx]

Thavnair feels like the Kugane equivalent of EW to me

[unique verge]

Necromancer never made sense anyway because it didnt fit into Eorzean lore. That shit is banned by all the major nations.

[gloomy shale]

I want a hub like Raelgars Reach that was the best area

[cinder badger]

@unique verge So was Black Magic for a long time

[empty moss]

what will they do , stop us

[unique verge]

That's just Gridania tbh

[unreal wadi]

Black Mage was banned for the longest period.

[untold gull]

i love Rhalgr's Reach. But fuck that music needs to get gutted

[unreal wadi]

until lvl 80

[empty moss]

raise is considered bad in Gridania

[unreal wadi]

then why does WHM have a raising spell then???? Checkmate motherfuckers.

[faint dagger]

Does anyone have high quality rip of the trailer music yet? cause i guess we definitely have the expansion's leitmotif in there somewhere

[empty moss]

but here we are spamming summoner resses

[untold gull]

wait, but don't whm and cnj from gridania?

[cinder badger]

@unique verge No. Black Magic was universally frowned upon after the War of the Magi. That's why it was restricted to low level Thaumaturgy

[empty moss]

yer you pass a trail

[shy rain]

Black Mages were deemed to be too dangerous and forbidden for the longest time. Same with WHM since they fuck with the eather and brought a calamitiy

[turbid helm]

Can't only the WoL Raise people? That shit is practically impossible for everyone else

[gloomy shale]

Is BLM the strongest job lore wise?

[rain onyx]

Our raising spell is more for unconsciousness, not literal dead people.

[untold gull]

oh dude, i'm just waiting for alex moukala to grace us with more music stuff about that

[empty moss]

no WHM

[unreal wadi]

Storywise, we haven't actually done that

[faint dagger]

MMO logic on raise tends to be a bit of a willing suspension of disbelief

[untold gull]

if only we did...if only...

[empty moss]

we have in WHM class quest

[turbid helm]

Has anyone else?

[rain onyx]

...let’s not get into pointless power arguments please.

Nothing good comes from it and every job is basically overpowered.

[shy rain]

Never death only echo

[faint dagger]

in WoW, it took a god of the light, and 2 of the most powerful priests in existence to raise one person, while any player can mass raise 40 people on a button press

[unreal wadi]

If we did then Necromancer will exist

[empty moss]

its not a true ressurection

[turbid helm]

yeah maybe I'm thinking of wow

[untold gull]

i was mostly referring to haurchefant but sure

[unreal wadi]

Myste

[turbid helm]

myste didn't raise actual people. they were illusions.

[shy rain]

Necromancer will revive the fighting spirit xD

[unique verge]

Myste wasnt raising anyone

[unreal wadi]

That's true.

[carmine basin]

I'm thinking Reaper. Or a job that uses scythe as weapon and share gear with DRG

[empty moss]

its the same logic as why the sensu bean wouldnt work on goku after the raditz fight

[glacial hamlet]

GUYS GUYS GUYS
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/lds906/zenos_with_a_scythe/
They were talking about necromancers? Well what about REAPER ZENOS?

[stable island]

Radz at Han is a prime candidate for the new tome vendors as well Ala Mhigo if that is the new big city.

[untold gull]

ranjit in his final form has a scythe

[empty moss]

hole makes it very hard to raise

[cinder badger]

How can Yoshida keep working on XIV after death without a Necromancer?

[turbid helm]

thanks for reminding on how fuckin' great the SB DRK questline was tho

[untold gull]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/571926423468507138/807532022020964362/8g02sfoz2h831.png

[glacial hamlet]

^ That

[unique verge]

That image is such a stretch. That could be damn near anything

[unreal wadi]

But... we are in Ala Mhigo already?

[cinder badger]

@untold gull oh sheet. It's Ranjit.

[glacial hamlet]

True, but img up here of Ranjit

[unreal wadi]

[gaunt star]

Did you guys notice the floating ribbon by alisae's hair on the trailer?

[glacial hamlet]

And it'd fit with the necromancer hints

[unique verge]

So what? "Ranjit exists, and here's an image of who knows what, therefore Reaper"?

[faint dagger]

tbh, if beastmaster rocked up in maiming gear with a deathscythe...?

[untold gull]

ya, dem reaper hints from yoshi p

[cinder badger]

@faint dagger it's not Beastmaster...

[untold gull]

there's also the fact that it's a melee dps class

[turbid helm]

the red ribbon on her ponytail?

[glacial hamlet]

Nope, it's just that basically they've been hinting at necromancy for a while now (and did you see his t-shirt) and it's a melee class and ranjit has a scythe

[gaunt star]

yes

[empty moss]

new job could be Puppetmaster

[faint dagger]

y'all can say it's not anything when we don't have grounds to disqualify anything in the first place lol

[turbid helm]

she's always had that lol. alphie has a blue one

[glacial hamlet]

^ this too but how would it be melee? Whips?

[gaunt star]

no, look it's a second one just floating

[cinder badger]

@faint dagger okay so tie his shirt to Beastmaster

[empty moss]

https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Puppetmaster_(Final_Fantasy_XI)

[unique verge]

hahahaha failed the QA check

[empty moss]

it was melee in FF11

[turbid helm]

oh... that looks like an... error?

[glacial hamlet]

This I didn't know. Cool, it could be then!

[rain onyx]

Puppetmaster feels doomed to be a Limited Job due to how customizable it was in 11.

[gaunt star]

Most likely

[last plume]

Google ff scythe, and list of jobs that can utilize it will pop out

[stable island]

Well....

There is a part we didn't visited yet there, the back of Ala Mhigo.

Because we are going to Garlemald and we enter it via The Lochs a.k.a. Ala Mhigo, if we look at the dungeon.

Via the east is not really feaseable, because of the mountains there.

[empty moss]

it also was used instead of necro

[faint dagger]

i don't particularly need to do that, i can predict what i like. what called Sage?

[unreal wadi]

Btw, can't wait to get screwed over for weapon glows, just like GNB & DNC amirite

[cinder badger]

Instead of throwing out a bunch of wild guesses try to actually take the Clues he gives you and make an educated guess

[empty moss]

Square-Enix originally intended to introduce a Necromancer job class, but after deciding that it did not fit into the story concept of the game, they created the Puppetmaster instead.

[unreal fox]

remember that this is an ff4 expansion, safe was tellahs jobs

[unique verge]

90%+ of this server said it was gonna be Chemist, yet now they're authorities on predicting jobs, lmao

[unreal wadi]

Sage gonna be on the same position

[turbid helm]

Sage gonna have no glamours for a while lol

[faint dagger]

ikr. nothing is definite, you may as well throw your lot in for anything

[tough jasper]

a healer was expected, but didnt expect that

[unreal wadi]

just like GNB & DNC right now

[empty moss]

all healer robes will work

[unreal fox]

if tellah had inspired one job, surely the second one would be from ff4

[faint dagger]

dnc must get some love with glams in EW, there's no way it doesn't

[turbid helm]

RDM/SAM got more glam love than DNC/GNB which sucks

[drifting prawn]

When do you think we will find out about the other job. Sage looks pretty decent, haven’t played the game long. But almost have my first level 80 job (ninja)

[empty moss]

or new Melee Job could be Green Mage , hammers and sythes and magic is summoning puppets and beats alike

[unreal wadi]

we're talking about weapon choices

[empty moss]

laughs in BLU

[turbid helm]

I was looking forward to GNB glams

[unreal wadi]

the law order GNB blade actually looks good though

[unique verge]

Any version of a melee job that isnt something that feasibly lives on the Maiming armor set, i find to not be believable.

[turbid helm]

yeah but it's ultimately only one glamour

[unreal wadi]

if you can get over the fact that you're gonna be grinding to hell for those

[turbid helm]

I'm almost resistance rank 15 and want to give up

[rain onyx]

Inb4 it shares with ninja

[empty moss]

OR new class is God Slayer

[cinder badger]

@unique verge It was never going to be Chemist. People overanalyzed things from patch quests, but Yoshida always hints at what the next job will be during fan fests by the shirts he wears and directing attention to it.

[silk dragon]

so would Beastmaster be a limted job?

[unique verge]

I mean i guess that's an option but it would be weird af tbh

[unique verge]

Yes. Beastmaster cannot function as a normal job.

[gaunt star]

I can't really see it working any other way

[rain onyx]

Beast master also feels like a job doomed to be Limited Job if they want to keep the flavor of having multiple beasts

[faint dagger]

Shrug. They've said in the past it could be, but considering the relative backlash blu got I'm not sure they'd hit a fan favourite with the limited stick

[rain onyx]

Unless they literally just want it to be a melee summoner

[unique verge]

The problem with Beastmaster is that for it to feel "proper" you have to be able to select a beast, not "use what the game tells you to"

and if its not limited, the game is going to hand you two and say "these are the ones you get to use"

[gaunt star]

They'd need to fix the pet ai before beastmaster is a thing tbh

[faint dagger]

i really don't agree that it HAS to be limited. Go like WoW, divide tamable beasts into families, and give them 2 family-based abilities each, or something like that. You keep the selection, but with not as much change - and it's probably still balanceable.

I'm not saying just rip WoW hunters, but this is one way it could function

[silk dragon]

well lore wise the Beastmaster crystal could let the user talk to the animals

[rain onyx]

Another possible concern for Beast Master is their beasts taking up lots of visibility.

Unless they all shrink to Egi-size or around that general scale

[unique verge]

Anyway, i dont see the new melee going on Scouting since there are currently 4 jobs using Dex accessories and 3 jobs using Str accessories. So Maiming is the logical slot.

[gaunt star]

I will never let my bahamut not be large. It feels wrong otherwise

[faint dagger]

i think all beasts downscaling to about miqo'te waist height would be adequate

[silk dragon]

so what if SMN introduced more Demis?

[rain onyx]

dies due to his beefy thighs covering up mechanics

[faint dagger]

other mmos with proper pet classes have a similar issue with 'ok i'll stand next to this play- oh it's a pet' but it doesn't pose any real problem

as long as you've not turned off the brain and decided to stand next to the nearest moving object you could find

[turbid helm]

so what's all this about alisaie getting a job change?

[silk dragon]

nope shes the RDM

[unique verge]

There's also one other glaring problem that i'm surprised none of you have brought up. The "animal" models in FF14 are really really shit usually

[faint dagger]

if ali gets a job change then it'll be mid 6.0 i suppose

[silk dragon]

still the RDM

always

[turbid helm]

I'd prefer her to stay RDM but some people were saying she was getting a change?

[stable island]

So let me get this straight 6.1 will connect to 6.0, but has nothing to do with the previous story.

[unreal wadi]

yes

[silk dragon]

still would 6.0 bring more Demi sumons

[faint dagger]

the hydaelyn and zodiark story is concluded fully in 6.0 - this leads into the 6.1 story

[unique verge]

6.1 will be caused by 6.0, but will not be part of the same story arc

[silk dragon]

or better yet have your Egis be upgraded to a Demi-sumon

[rain onyx]

looks at the empty desk labelled “New Egi Glamours”

[faint dagger]

Anyone saying Alisaie is getting a job change is just basing off the dialogue from 5.3

[gaunt star]

I want my obsidian and moonstone carbuncles egi glamour

[silk dragon]

its alphnaud \

[unique verge]

Alisaie job change is the most comical idea to come out of all of this.

[faint dagger]

Alphinaud has changed to Sage, or at least will in 6.0

[turbid helm]

she was referring to a clothing change, not job change for her "personal development"

[silk dragon]

a reference on how porom wanted to be a sage?

[turbid helm]

so if it was just 5.3 dialogue, then RDM ali is safe

[faint dagger]

i just wish alisaie would get a better unique weapon besides an ARR recolour

[silk dragon]

what like a hat?

to go along with the weapon

[faint dagger]

what?

[unique verge]

....."Hey i know how to increase my DPS. A funny hat!"

[gaunt star]

Mog Station about to genereate even more sales.

[unique verge]

Daily reminder that this passes as "okay animal models" at SE for everyone clamouring for Beastmaster

[silk dragon]

still the healer would have been worse if Necromancer was the healer than sage

lore wise i mean

[unique verge]

what in the fuck world is Necromancer a healer? what are you on about? Is it "I'm a healer, but i'm habitually late to work"?

[faint dagger]

they could be worse, plus if it was going to be a new job i don't think it's impossible that a touch up to tamable beast assets would be out of the question

[turbid helm]

animal models are wack in general

[frank nest]

has anyone guessed berserker with claws for the melee DPS yet?

[unique verge]

Still an obnoxious amount of work - orrrr they just hand you two and say these are the ones you get to use like i postulated.

[gaunt star]

Friendly reminder that we think this when we say beastmaster
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/f/f2/FFXIV_Lyon_and_Dawon_render.png/revision/latest?cb=20210108060239

[turbid helm]

gross. clip your nails

[silk dragon]

still i wasnt kidding about my lore idea on BST being able to talk to the animals through the soul crystal

[faint dagger]

hard unsure about berserker, i'd think it'd encroach upon 'angery monk' or 'discount warrior' territory

[unique verge]

Friendly reminder that 90%+ of animal models are closer to that trash-tier lion than Dawon

[cinder badger]

Whatever the new job is it's not going to use a weapon that can be used by another job...

[faint dagger]

dumb assumption imho

whm and blm use the same weapon, and don't tell me they don't

[gaunt star]

Yes and no... you see one is a wooden stick when the other is a metal stick

[turbid helm]

they don't. one staff is more menacing than the other 😉

[faint dagger]

nothing stopping them just declaring 'this is an x weapon, and this is a y weapon'

[unique verge]

Current relic tier says no

[silk dragon]

oh and BST weapon would be a whip

[unique verge]

It would obviously be a 1h axe if its BST because its going to be the same as Lyon come on now.

[rare sinew]

Reaper is death, therefore Hades.
Reaper says "I'll be here if you need me"
Thus
Emet coming back in 6.0. PLEASE LOOK FORWARD TO IT

[turbid helm]

do we know what the crest on derplander's PLD cloak is yet

[faint dagger]

shortsword/claymore and buckler would work for bst.

it's not like pld has actually USED their shield archetypes for years

[gaunt star]

Isn't emet the one who narrates the trailer?

[cinder badger]

The only exception to the rule are scholar and Summoner because they shared the same class but the development team has learned their lesson since then

[silk dragon]

i perfer the whip as it fits the idea of taming beasts

[untold gull]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/571926423468507138/807532022020964362/8g02sfoz2h831.png

[faint dagger]

wait, do I mean claymore? throwing axe. fuck if I know

[rare sinew]

Ye

[unique verge]

How many fucking times are we going to repost the same picture of Ranjit.

[untold gull]

[gaunt star]

yes

[gaunt star]

I agree but there's no beast model here

[faint dagger]

whm and blm use the same weapon. they just have different names.

there's nothing at all stopping them doing this

[silk dragon]

still i hope my idea of BSTs being able to talk to the animals wasn't too farfetched

[faint dagger]

if all bst's job quest NPCs were animals I'd kinda like that. literally no humans involved

[unique verge]

By that logic (and im not disagreeing) a "different gunblade" for a Garlean style gunblade fighting class is also feasible.

[silk dragon]

well with the soulstone would make it plausble

[unique verge]

Since gunbreaker is literally nothing like the way that the "Legatus" that we fight operate.

[faint dagger]

Yep. Come up with a name for a long Garlean gunsword, and you can make a job out of that

the only negative you can call is unoriginality

[unique verge]

If anything its more original because most of that style and moves came from FF14

whereas most of Gunbreaker was ripped from Squall/Lightning

[untold gull]

there was before he used it

unless you forgot the dragon he had

[faint dagger]

if you asked me 'is bst going to look like Lyon or Ranjit'

[gaunt star]

Nope, I just wanted an image with a beast that had the quality I think of when I hear beastmaster

[faint dagger]

Ranjit just struck me as 'we had a lot of ideas for a dude, so we put them on a dude'

~~yo would bst give you windcaller hairstyle for free in that case 🤔 ~~

[cinder badger]

@faint dagger Whm uses Canes or Crooks.

Blm uses Staves or Rods.

That has been the way of it for many generations of FF.

The way Final Fantasy XIV is set up they aren't going to have two jobs that share the exact same kind of weapon.

Just like when people thought there was going to be a viking job that uses hammers and then they made an actual Hammer weapon for the warrior

[regal lantern]

Is the 6.0 narrator really Emet???

[unique verge]

Lyon is literally called a Beastmaster. Ranjit is called nothing and never implied to be anything. Its pretty obvious which one they'd go with.

[full inlet]

I wondered that too. Sounded like him.

[unique verge]

I can, with almost no effort, post several dozen WHM staffs that look like BLM weapons - AND vice versa. This argument holds no merit.

[gaunt star]

By this logic I can also post a bow that looks like a staff

[faint dagger]

You're missing my point. Black mage and white mage use sticks. there are many things you can call a stick.

there is nothing at all stopping them from making a class with a nodachi, drk ryumaku weapon irrelevant, and calling it a job

there's also nothing at all stopping them making Templar, if you call their weapon specifically a Halberd

[silk dragon]

hows this for the first BST quest would be about finding a strange soulstone when you get it suddenly you can understand the creatures language

[cinder badger]

@faint dagger you can't tell the difference between a cane and staff I feel really bad for you

[faint dagger]

okay yeah, you're being obnoxious so can't be bothered to go round again

[stable island]

Yoshi-P said something about Zenos and that he sees the WoL as "friend", i still wonder what his motivation is why he wants to meet the WoL so badly.

[flint dust]

👀

[silk dragon]

and enemy

[faint dagger]

tbh i expect nothing more from zenos besides 'who he was as an Ancient' and 'yo this man unhinged as fuck'

[scenic sun]

ZenosEmperor is a Kundere

[flint dust]

I mean , what i'm wondering it's if this will be the last exp

[unique verge]

Literally in the channel pins. So you'd call this a "cane" and not a "staff'?
https://i.imgur.com/NhAZpUk.mp4

[cinder badger]

@stable island because the WoL is the only one who can give him a challenge

[faint dagger]

they've said 3 times by this point it wasn't

[flint dust]

Oh omg :OOO

[silk dragon]

so expect Zenos to merge with Zoidark?

but to go wrong

[normal kindle]

Was the new Melee DPS showcased at all?

[faint dagger]

tbh i felt zenos merging with shinryu was half assed so if that happens i'm going to meme on it

[faint dagger]

no. fanfest in may.

[scenic sun]

we're speculating what class

[gaunt star]

Methinks reaper

[craggy gulch]

Anyone have a picture of the slides they showed for the new dungeons?

[regal lantern]

WHIPBLADE WEAPON

[gaunt star]

Itll be in #translations-and-liveletters

[quaint wedge]

No, but judging from Yoshi-P's shirts, I think it's either Necromancer or Reaper.

[scenic sun]

Man it feels nice to finally see some Mnach architecture again

[gaunt star]

Probably reaper

[regal lantern]

Where is reaper from

[craggy gulch]

6.0 dungeons. The endwalker stream wasn't covered in liveletters

[gaunt star]

Damn this channel still has slowmode?

[cinder badger]

@scenic sun how do you know it's Mhach?

[gaunt star]

Again its in #translations-and-liveletters

[stable island]

We still don't know Zenos' real motivation, sure he wants a challenge, but i am sure he also knows that WoL will defeat him again.

Key point to this is, does he knows the WoL real idendity as the ancient Azem and the best friend of his Grandfather?

And there is a question i still have did Elidibus knew about the WoL idendity as ancient Azem (the traitor) from the first time he met the WoL again in 2.5?

[normal kindle]

So, what if we get Necromancer, and get the Gauntlet boss necromancer outfit as Relic armor?

[onyx sundial]

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[faint dagger]

wait sorry i just checked translations channel

do the omega statues fucking seriously look like that

[gaunt star]

It's been an enemy on multiple games. I wouldn't put it past them to make a new class out of it

[onyx sundial]

nocturnal is dead

[gaunt star]

Yes LMAO

[faint dagger]

oh my god

[craggy gulch]

No, it's not

[regal lantern]

Reaper as in death reaper/soul reaper?

[gaunt star]

tbh as a blm main only things i remember are sagging pants and 10k fire four 😦

[quaint wedge]

Wait, I'm confused. WoL is Azem?

[unique verge]

.........

[regal lantern]

Yes

[gaunt star]

Yup

[unique verge]

[craggy gulch]

I'm not talking about the 5.5 dungeon. I mean the dungeons they previewed for 6.0

[gaunt star]

but i hope the new weapon is a scythe because that completes the trio = blm drk and reaper !!!

[gaunt star]

No offense but get out of this channel if you're not caught up on msq

But yes

[regal lantern]

Play 5.3 on new game+

[quaint wedge]

Shit, I need to finish Heavensward quickly.

[gaunt star]

Dude get out now

[unique verge]

lmao man is in 3.0 and fucking in the 6.0 channel

[dreamy bane]

i have a feeling the new dps will most likely use maiming set from drg. Templar would use long weapon aka scythe/lance

[quaint wedge]

I don't mind getting spoiled.

[regal lantern]

Why not rune knight?

[rapid locust]

so what are the speculation on the meele class atm?

[flint dust]

but you gonna ruin yourself all the surprises

[stable island]

Thief!

[unique verge]

k. Tataru is an Ascian and murders Thancred in his sleep.

[unreal fox]

the shirt is referring to the sex pistols

[gaunt star]

lot of ppl don’t really mind lol that’s fine

Reaper/templar with some nutsos that want necromancer

[rain onyx]

[regal lantern]

It’s less about the spoiling and more about having to explain what is otherwise rudimentary info

[gaunt star]

Any mods to get rid of slowmode

this discord account is shared between me and a noob

[normal kindle]

I hope the new class is like Halicarnassus from Deltascape in their moveset.

[next marsh]

there was another shirt that also was a Death Metal Band "Chidren of Bodom"

[normal kindle]

With fancy Blizzard Blade anims etc. Although those could be added to RDM too.

[quaint wedge]

Like I'm gonna believe that 😆

[rapid locust]

why do you share a discord acount?

[gaunt star]

i get we are all passionate about this it’s literally like the MCU

[next marsh]

showed a grim reaper

[unreal fox]

the shirt is from the neighborhood brand from tokyo referring to the sex pistols

[gaunt star]

you would not believe me if i told you

[cinder badger]

Given the pattern of the jobs in the melee DPS tree the new job is either going to dual wield or carry a two-hander

[unique verge]

Better question - why are you casually admitting to breaking Discord ToS? Might want to keep that quiet.

[gaunt star]

Two hander scythe 🥰

[regal lantern]

Where is this from?

[next marsh]

Live Letter Last Night

[cinder badger]

What does it say on that shirt

[quaint wedge]

Yup. We're definitely getting Grim Reaper. Or Necromancer at the very least.

[gaunt star]

i never read the tos ... and it’s like like i’m doing anything shady

@lament breach can slowmode get turned off or reduced

[gaunt star]

I'm seeing this everywhere and it still hits so hard.

Follow the reaper is one of Children of Bodom's more famous albums

[next marsh]

"Children of Bodom"

[regal lantern]

Necromancer can’t be a melee tho? Can it?

[gaunt star]

Necro dead people within 5 yalms.

[rapid locust]

why not?

[gaunt star]

Why not?

[next marsh]

Reaper/Anarchist