#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
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You don’t really have a chance to really enjoy the dungeon as it’s over pretty quickly due to big pulls
Smaller numbers I think
Yeah, it's not like they're downscaling us and not changing our enemies
Unsure about that but it's a bluray with videos and junk. There's a separate code for mp3 versions.
they are expecting more and more expansions if they are doing that
It does. I think now is a great time for a stat squish. @digital crystal again since it's all relative this won't likely change either. Only unsynced will really change since those exponential +4% increases add up when there is no stat divisor present.
Especially praetreum
It won’t effect shit. Mobs and bosses also get downscaled. It’s just less numbers to prevent FPS drops and such
@runic sierra oh yes plz
smaller numbers easier to manage for sure, everything is being squished and they don't want to do this every expac (like Blizzard does, lawl) so this one squish should set them up for a long time
I mean that's not a spaghetti code issue--if they've coded damage values around a variable type, and that variable type gets used for that in thousands of procedures, changing that variable type is actually more work than a stat-squish could ever be, and far more likely to cause very serious bugs.
Well it doesn't mean we will have a slower time killing bosses
It’s not even a nerf either as you’ll still be useful and powerful
Big numbers are for... cough
The games just going to be less easy
the boss's hp is going to be reduced as well though...so not really a huge amount of time lost
It will be just as easy, not less easy, not more easy.
I'm wondering about unsync between 50-90 AF
was there a pic of the globe where you could clearly see the continents?
The number changes are for the games sake, not a buff nor a nerf.
No it's not.
A group doing 100k damage to a boss with 440mil will take the same amount of time as a group doing 20k damage to a boss with 88mil hp.
I wonder who will return and who will make an appearance
cracked me up when yoshi P said if he does a spell W/O crit that it does 50k, after downscale it will be 10k.... tanks will do 2k dps max haha
This will be the only thing that changes because we are exponentially losing 4% of our stat. 5%x10 vs 1%x10 (10 just being an arbitrary #.)
as an indian paladin main, this expansion is hype as hell. also I hope the new pvp mode is ||actually fun||
Fanfest merch store is hype
just an example of the numbers, not to be taken as gospel for the exact numbers people will be doing
It’s literally the same not even a nerf, people need to chill out about this already.
i hope it's not like rival wings cough
yoshi p put all those rings over his gloves lol
You will love Thavinir then @worldly whale
People don't understand how games are actually made. That's what's happening.
People who can't do math enough to understand that the time to kill not changing is the ONLY metric that matters here, aren't likely to be the types to hit high numbers anyways.
So you won't be more bad, you'll be equally bad.
haha yoship with that good dps goddam
we'll all be just as bad as we currently are, lol
I hate Math..
Lol, that is one way to look at it 😆
It'll still take you 30 minutes to do a 15 minute dungeon, don't worry.
yee, already know the new beast tribe is gonna be my fave
Ehhh...? Really @maiden lodge
Its kind of amazing how dumb people are about stat squish.
See my problem with that - will amount of clicks per clear and time to clear change.
Pretty apparent .. though I understood why they had to take the time to explain it. Some people aren’t familiar with how mmos work when it comes to keeping longevity.
Same thing happened in WoW tbh
Oh good, it won't affect my ability to backflip off the stage as a dragoon.
NO. They literally spent twenty fucking minutes explaining this, so you wouldn't ask this question
Yeah, and i was amazed at how dumb people were about it there too.
Everyone gets depressed if the numbers aren't able to be compared to Godzilla's radiation levels
ONLY in unsynced. Unsynced won't be the absolute cannonball clown party that it is now. Everything else should be basically identical.
I mean it's still going to be clownshoes though
That is totally sad really.
This really is so fucking simple. Say your attack does 1000 damage right now, and it currently oneshots an enemy that has 1000 HP. In the new world, your attack will do 200 damage - but the enemy will have 200 HP.
The gear scaling in Shb already makes stormblood miserable in comparison.
unless its 1000 needles lol
Math is scary guys.
Small numbers are Cute numbers
Yes; it will go from obscenely easy to just ridiculously easy
Oh yeah, Blue Mage buff for sure
love that look on koji
They're only squishing 51-80. 1k needles was a dead spell 51+ anyway.
Small numbers are also much better for actually parsing and sifting through data
Which one? @broken mist
OMAGAWD MY XENOGLOSSY IS HITTING 10k INSTEAD OF 90k ON THE BOSS AFTER IT LOST A METRIC TON OF HP AFTER THIS CHANGE!!
heavy black eyeliner around the eyes
Tank cries
So, predictions for new abilities for the jobs we already have?
Queen on Machinist is going to become a gundam. Mark my words. She's going to get massive.

hahaha yoshi said koji looks like palpatine
Cute Dorks 💙 @serene crest
And if it fixes the stat spikes at Bardhams and The Aery this is actually a net 'makes things easier for everyone' quality of life thing
Expecting something to play more heavily on Meditation stacks for SAM, possibly something that empowers Shoha
tbh i hope we dont get ANY strictly new abilities. Only replacements.
Dew it
Speaking of Abilities... my poor fingers
Same, I want more flip abilities of older spells and abilities. Change them up into something new like rook to queen.
did someone post a pic of the globe where you could see the continents? i though i saw something like that earlier

Extra katana, dmg multplied by the number of katanas 
I'm waiting until announcement two to really be concerned about things with stats.
Same for old old primals... I know they fixed Ramuh but isn't Thornmarch still broken for stat spikes?
Are we getting nothing else out of the live letter?
Dancer and MCH have room for skills on their bar
The game should be playable with 24 keybinds. This is the standard that was set by WoW. Any time you exceed 24, its a big problem.
DRG and SAM feel more or less complete. I'm not sure how to expand. Removing would be rough though.
Koji with dem dance skills, lol
Monk also wants some more
koji pls
Dude it's pretty bad that Sage has the exact theme I want but instead of being a caster DPS it's a healer, it's so good that I might convert to the green DPS religion
Maybe a few new abilities but mostly flips is how I see the expansion handling new stuff for the jobs.
koji magic fingers
drg has too many buttons
What buttons do you find useless on SAM?
"Yoshida "Koji is American you see, so he does have the tendency to dislike doing the things he doesn't like"" lol wat
I laughed harder than I should have about 'a sweaty amount'
Gunbreaker has WAY too many buttons.
GNB suffers more imo
I know what you mean, i'm already preparing healer stuff
Not quite the same problem--the issue is that the ilvl difference doesn't match the stat difference at those dungeon levels, so it goes from 'ARR endgame scaling' to 'getting into HW scaling' in a single jump.
Contrast with ShB levelling scaling which is smooth
Shut your mouth. I need more piano keys. 12 part combo baby.

At least you get 1 button that changes into 3 separate spells
Is removing the belt a big deal?
No
Nah, great change
We need more of that
It should be 2 that change into 6 though.
True, everything should be a lot more linear now
Nah it was just a wasted slot
I still think ARR scaling was the best.
Yes it means you won't get that stupid error that you can't change jobs because you have too many rings and the jobs that use the same gear type have the rings swapped.
I wish they'd remove 1 of the rings so we only have to deal with 1, having two is annoying
Wonder what kind of glamour we will get 😚
As I said we need more of that lol
@agile epoch yeah Nice
@hushed aspen I AM WAITING
YES PLEASE THOUGH. I can't think of a genuine downside to this. Or offer both as an option.
with yoship, i'd expect them to add more ring slots
Any time you have an ability that says "you must use this other ability prior to using this ability" - as in you cant even press the button out of order - there's no excuse for it to be its own button
lmao, true
Sadly, rings are glamor, and someone wants to glame their rings
So this disc is $40 cause it's got all of the music videos too?
Tbh, I'm really stumped on what else the tanks could get for a new set of abilities or flipping old ones. They kinda have everything you'd need at the moment.
Fang and Claw / Wheeling Thrust for example, there is no excuse for those being two buttons.
You know what would be a dope partnership in terms of music, Soken and Akira Yamaoka.
yeah... D: that's true, I'd forgotten about that. I guess it's too much work to make one ring appear on both hands for glamour, cause people would want both hands to have diff rings
Who?
They could use another defensive cooldown, a big big finisher button, and some cool utility thing
Hard agree - if there is absolutely NO reason to use something outside of its intended combo spot, just merge it
tanks could use some extra space to differentiate their kits like for war/drk
yeah, the bluray discs they release of soundtracks are ALWAYS more than just the music files being there. They always have some kind of music videos or some behind the scenes stuff on them
Fluid aura gonna be gone i bet
Big big finisher isn't what like Fellcleave and Bloodspiller are?
Silent Hill composer, did some stuff for grasshopper as well.
Oh, more slots for weapons and rings sounds pretty fun though
Bigger finisher
Confetti 2
PLD Sheild knockback ability is what im predicting for 6.0 based on the trailer
hmm could the melee dps be a scythe? o.o yoshi was wearing a shirt as necromancer. i played many games as a sythe so maybe??
Wouldn't be surprised to see more trimming of this, yes. Leg Graze too.
Don't forget, yeah, they do want some hype for the ability trailer
Fell Cleave is practically your must used ability on WAR, you cant really call it a "big finisher"
Silent Hill?? And Soken-San Style? What a weird Mix
Go into savage content now and not use your belt slot to prepare early. 
Trait that turns Fell Cleave into Inner Chaos.
Trait that makes Inner Chaos into something stupidly big dick under Infuriate
Its probably noctis but scyth based user, bounty hunter probably
I assumed stats of Everything Will Change to make up for the belts missing even if it isn't much?
I'd really like more changes to earlier abilities and combos to make them flasher and do a little more later on like how Machinist animations change wildly later on.
Oh I'm 100% sure.
Idk seeing big crits is fun
yeah stats would need to change since we're missing up to 5 materia slots too
their removal might be part of the stat squish tbh, since they're happening at the same time
Stat squish to negate those changes. 
Y'all know what the other thing hyped about? AF gear
Yeah, but I mean, yeah, they balance around this stuff, you're not gonna miss enrages over this.
doubtful
War and sam and blm look so damn cool
more than likely, yes
Probably, materia will rescale to fit.
Mnk looks like a fucking champ too
Meld piety. 
it's not really going to nerf their impact, the numbers would be smaller
Yes
Honestly my prediction:
Direct Hit made DPS only.
ehhhhhhhh
Like back in ARR 💙
Akira is super varied, his more normal stuff is actually very similar to Soken work with The Primals. He did a few songs for No More Heroes 2.
Piety given some damage component.
I think they will compensate numbers based on what you’re losing.
Ara Ara... 💙 I Like @vale dome
i'm not so sure they're changing what actual stats do or making it painful for healers to meld effectively damage with dh, pie/tenacity could be better
Then healers will be weened off of 'just take direct hit' and tanks as well, which will actually make tenacity useful for some builds.
Stop it I can only get so erect.
the one thing i wish they were a little more straight up about was the visual effect of flyover text for damage numbers. if it's that bad add an option to consolidate them star ocean style or remove them
This is FFXIV though. 
I would just love to see them lose this Crit/DH/specific number speed meta, no matter how it happens
I really hope they're gonna have some kind of media tour this time around, there's gonna be a massive amount of changes lol
maybe they'll do a PTR or something lmao
What does that have to do with anything?
Yeah, and they have a history of doing exactly what Krum said, so... not sure what snark you're trying for there but you missed the target
nah they'll never do a PTR.
I think they will end up doing a PTR media tour
I just want to see Yoshida-San more tbh
every class kinda has that speed meta, and that's mostly just based on how stats work so... they'd literally need to redo the whole calculating system if crit/dh/speeds didn't change per tier?
People like trolling in chat ok
SGE HoT is gona be nanomachines
Same as a media tour but for the general public
if they made an instance with striking dummies and shit
And of course, ffxiv coming to ps5 is nuts
They won't do a PTR.
I'd honestly be surprised as fuck if they opened anything up to the public. That's literally against everything they've done so far with this game, lol
Well, them redoing stats isn't that farfetched. But yeah, I know speed tiers are just the new acc tiers and I just have to get used to it. 😛 It's not the end of the world. The upside is that it does create a "safe/risky" comp for classes which is fun.
Name me 1 example per major patch off the top of your head. 
Hey guys remember the edge trial? Well for 6.0 we're introducing Limit Break level 4.
because they've seen Blizzard do their PTR stuff and how they do things are completely different
it would be a much better idea than them launching the jobs as-is and then altering them drastically one patch later lol
the best case scenario would be tenacity actually being more useful to debate along with piety really
I mean how Media Tour works is that it's a private server isolated from the main game running a game version modified seperate from the dev build and public game
they're not going to be "as-is" though, lol. The expac launch will have a ton of changes, so it's literally not as-is
Yep, Tenacity and Piety NEED something. They just do. This is importance #1 if they're gonna do anything with stats.
they don't seem to catch a lot of stuff until a -lot- of people start playing with the jobs is the thing.
Piety has needed something since forever.
Examples aren’t necessary if you know how mmo balancing works 🤣
Thought ten and pie is just prog stats
why have them be "just prog stats" to begin with
I think people are reading waaaaay too much into his shirt.
That's a funny way to say that SE doesn't balance. 
like what? I literally cannot think of an example of something they didn't catch (ie: "oh shit we overlooked that and completely forgot to update/fix that")... the biggest thing that I've seen is they have an idea for where they want the job to go, but players resist it so they have to change
tbh I think they will disallow tanks and healers from getting any benefit from DH next expansion
Any job is fine by me just release it
I would have agreed, but ever since the "Sam Raimi incident" I know better 😛
You're insane if you don't think XIV is balanced, lol. Any job can go in and do any raiding content, how is that not balanced?
5 examples of them compensating for a perceived loss in stats?
There isn't 5 examples of them removing a stat like that that I can remember but--
Damage for healers recalculated after Cleric Stance to be equivalent
Tank damage made good after the loss of Strength melding
More stamina put on gear than the stamina melding-for-start-of-tier option was removed
Potency scaling whenever dots are removed
Ninjas having mudra taking off ogcd lead to mudras hitting HARD AF.
So theres 5 right there.
Give one example where they didn't.
(shrug) that's kind of what I mean as well
no dh on tanks/healers would indirectly nerf damage so ehhh
I thought they said we'd get a teaser of the unrevealed job in the live letter?
With how certain countries are getting more restrictive on their covid regulations the Media tours probably wont happen or if they do with dramatically less people than usual. I feel it balance out if this is like the only media tour they do that's like maybe luck of the draw testing for x amount of players, for like 10 hours.
@gaunt star We did, it's Yoshis shirts
just give me fkin pvp content
They never said that. They said they'd show it on digital fanfest on may
No, they said in the May FanFest All THe WOrld
I don't think they ever did say that?
tenacity is a prog stat that's not even used for prog 
Dandy has left the chat
The teaser is all the Grim Reapers on Yoshi's shirts today.
Yoshidas 2 shirts, the grim reaper and the cob shirt
Yeah, I already noticed faster load times on just the PS4 version running on PS5, the PS5 version is going to be nuts; the complete opposite of the PS3 version.
I'd imagine they'd buff their base potencies or something if they were to do that, but maybe they don't have to lol. tank/healer damage should arguably matter less
Really don't think the shirt is important.
It's coming! ❤️ new small-scale PvP stuff and an entirely new reward system
yeah :\ more than likely exactly that. I'm still gonna hold out hope though (largely because GE gets to go to the media tour so I could see info early, lmao. Totally a selfish reason I know...)
Change scaling to match, add damage component to piety.
Tank damage wouldn't change that much so it'd only require a change to the job adjustment calculation on the back end.
YO WHAT
the shirt is absolutely significant, but it's going to be some stupidly headass thing instead of "the new job uses a scythe"
TEN is whatever I play war mostly now
Zephirin lived? I hope that's so I can murder him with my own hands
And Tenacity isn't even -that- bad, it's only suboptimal, not toxic to doing damage. People will also refuse an actual upgrade because 'it has tenacity' without questioning whether it's actually better because of other stats.
sure, it's just a little weird at that point two roles would be gated out of direct hit, I'd really rather not deal with a situation where 3 stats are gated to each role, tenacity and pie is already gathering dust
Oh yeah.. do you think there will be a CE bonuses and stuff?
Did you know Japan fanfest merch this year are selling all the MSQ scripts from 2.0-5.0
Honestly, if we get beastmaster like Ranjit, i'm gonna be so happy
Oh damn, minion figures!?
On hard cover books
The figures are cuuuute
yea, minion figures are up on the store iirc. expensive af (like 60 bucks apiece)
They won't gather dust if Direct Hit isn't made the 'this is what you meld and only this ever' stat like it is for 7 jobs that aren't damage dealers.
btw was it say what type of dmg that 6.0 melee job would be ?
I want minion primal figures
The only detail we have is it's not sumo wrestler damage
I would love Tenacity to be good lmao. or at least for there to be an actual option
Didnt. Either scouting striking or maiming. But most likely either maiming or scouting 1 or the other gets gimped
That would surprise the hell out of me if they did beastmaster like that instead of a limited. I wouldn't even be mad.
and that they'll bring Yoshi back to live after he dies to keep working on XIV 🤣
Next up: Netherseer next job.. plz SE
Im guessing magic melee given how they specifically said "physical melee dps" in reference to current melee dps
Oi... @shy sandal
if there was going to be a limited job we would have heard about it tonight. BLU was revealed at the first ShB fanfest. IMO I think they're done with limited jobs
@hushed aspen wat
squints no
i just would like to have dh be fine on everyone, pie/tenacity being competative stats for the roles would well, basically alleviate the issue of dh being king
Whatever this other job is, I feel like it is absolutely going to be Void-related in terms of its theme. Too many flags to think otherwise.
Why no?
yes! i've convinced one person.. i can sleep now
That's not nice or funny.. @shy sandal
Because there isn't a magical dps role quest.
After XVI, the man needs a vacation.
I’ve been convinced since it was brought up
I mean... did you not see the showcase earlier? He LITERALLY made that joke with Koji.
Still... 💔 @shy sandal
So when they said the rolequests will be 'physical melee, physical ranged, and magical ranged', that implies magical melee won't be 'a thing', unless you count Ninja
yeah, agreed he does. Dude works way too hard. But he and Koji literally made the joke lol
If you think I'm serious, you need help. I was clearly referencing the joke they made (which was also a joke about necromancer). If you can't laugh at that, you're taking shit too seriously and need to take a break for a while
'There will be 5 types of role quests' implies there isn't a sixth.
I look forward to FF14 Harvest Animal Valley
Isn't the first time, he always jokes how tired he is.
Yet people still rage about delays .. smh
wow they are allowing 1 to 1 exchange of the omega figures where the face sculpting is not of standard
Someone commented on the stream that YoshiP should work on XIV even after death, that's why
i really doubt it's a necromancer since that would likely be a caster (and some variation of smn) if anything
yeah, he does. But this one was more of a reference for how he thinks he'll be working on XIV for the rest of his life because he's not leaving anywhere, lol
Can we just appreciate the amazing work they put into this game
@shy sandal no comment 💙
But of they were announcing a magic melee dps in a few months why would they outright give it away by saying theres a new type of role quest?
I still don't have confirmation of my omega figurines shipping 😐 it's still sitting at 'validated'
Theres 1 new role quest type
5 types would be healer, tank, magical ranged, physical ranged, melee
it's a physical melee DPS. that doesn't mean it won't use magic, but it will key off of Strength for damage (most likely)
Wow, those figures are bigger than I thought
that's not really surprising considering the panel for jobs divides them up like that exactly
Just to be clear; are you mentioning 'magic melee' in terms of flavor or actual stats? Because there is no WAY we're gonna get yet another 1-class gearset. Flavor is much more likely.
Yes 👍🏻@agile epoch
They wouldnt. They wouldn't mention role quests and give specifics at all, they'd say there's rolequests--and there will be more details later.
They don't lie to hide information.
It was tank healer physical and magical for 5.0 it will be tank healer physical melee physical range and caster in 6.0
Oh that’s nuts, they’re gonna allow players from the ps4 version to just download and play right away on the ps5?
Yoshi breaking the figurines, lmao
Yes @paper sleet
If yoshi p wants to obsfucate, he evades. IF he flat out says something, he's not obsfucating.
Big agree. I talk about this game critically a ton, but at the end of the day I am damn happy.
I hope with PLD being the poster job next expac they get something REALLY sick for their new actions.
Ah yeah, I don't always agree with their decisions but at least I can appreciate what they're doing and they deserve a nap after all this
yoshda is saying if the face quality is not up to your standard please contact SQEX support for exchange of a new version
Was thinking actual stats, yeah. Just tossing around possibilities. Unlikely? Maybe. But definitely not impossible
only thing he's flat out said something about where he was misleading, was about him working on XVI before it was announced lol
i appreciate them looking into the castrum stuff to make a hotfix for this patch at least
Right, but even that wasn't a mislead.
This game is beautiful. The passion shows in their work. Really a shame we get people raging about delays during a pandemic and making sure things come out great.
PLD being posterboy means they gonna get rekt by changes 
ahh, damn T_T
@full dock it is very a Beautiful game 💙
https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/big-fake-news-final-fantasy-xiv-director-denies-rumours-of-him-working-on-final-fantasy-xvi-2682280 it's totally misleading, lol
I had it happen to the job I onetrick so imma go all Fandaniel on PLD players 
He denies working as a director. He never denied he's a producer 
Highly improbable. Making a new classification of DPS type for just one job and then making that a role quest effectively funnels everyone into a requirement to play ONE job to get all content, which would be a shot in the foot. It's a neat concept, there would just be too much retooling. I get you though, it's a fun thing to think about.
That why I was super hyped to see XVI was Yoshi-P's project, man deserved to make a mainline title and God damn does it look like it delivered; his involvement sold me alone but the fact that one of the gameplay designers of DMC is working on it just... muah.
i'm gonna have to get some of these apparel items
he didn't outright say "No I'm not working on XVI" he said "it's annoying" to be asked about it, and to "ignore any non-official announcements". So it's a huge spin that's totally misleading, lol
Yea reminds me of those clout chasing media sites that try to get more clicks with false information.
Thavnair
I love all the love PLD has gotten lately. Shadowbringers was a great time for PLD, and I bet as the poster child they'll get some more love now.
You could say its futureproofing for additional melee dps jobs but youre probably right. Theyd likely wait until they could release two at the same time if they did that, at least.
I feel that XVI is.. a bit too soon imo
So I'm sure I'm late to the game here, but we all saw Yoshi's live letter shirt......
XVI was only just announced, it's at least a couple years away from being a thing
I don't think it's gonna be templar :p
I need the hades Hoodie and the sin eater shirt
I mean... look what happened to MNK and DRK
They didn't benefit from being the poster children
is there such a thing as scythemaster lol
the only step I see next is raising people for pld tbh
I hope more, I'm just not ready.. I'm being silly here.. @shy sandal
HADES HOODIE MUST HAVES
scythemaster? not really, i guess some beastmasters use them seemingly
@pine epoch hoodie?? Where?
True - PLD rotation is fun but unforgiving as hell at the high end. I hope they loosen it up a lot.
Beastmasters sometimes use them
Honestly one thing i wish they changed about PLD is i wish the MP generator from finishing the non-DoT combo was an oGCD. PLD feels slow to me and thatd make it feel better to me.
consolidate ogcd's do goring blade is upgraded to circle of scorn and royal authority upgraded to average out spirits within's damage
JP ONLY NOOO
Faster mp gen for pld
since my annoyingce with pld now is a lot of skills that are marginal utility wise (and gauge simply existing)
let me sac my health for mp
PLD is ezpz
Official fanfest merch
Well someone posted this earlier http://puu.sh/Hea2T/500d222086.jpg https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/571926423468507138/807532022020964362/8g02sfoz2h831.png
i guess that's reverse clemency
I prefer PLD Rage Of Halone old Animation tbh
Hahaha, yeah, I was going to main PLD as my tank... and then I looked at the timing windows and I was just like NOPE hahaha let's play DRK
I said Ran'jit Job
I want the old DRK dot animation
RIP bank account
Was anyone curious about that farm content? Islands or whatever?
ran'jit job really would just be beastmaster
ShB DRK
I am legitimately TOO excited about this content @full dock
Me @full dock
Im a drg main. I have no idea what they could possibly add for my job. I have no idea what to expect but i want it to be cool.
What if it’s like animal crossing in ffxiv ?
@agile epoch 100% agree, my poor Char gets a headache from all that spinning
29 November 2016 was the release of 15, are you cracked?
I feel like the flavor was good in ShB for sure, but you mean actual weaponskill identity?
Looks interesting, I wonder if it can be a FC thing or if its just a solo instance housing type thing.
Identity in how it plays
LaHEEbreha
@empty pine cracked?? How rude..
I don't care what the melee job is ..... I just want it to share gear with DRG or NIN
a jump that doesn't instantly kill drg on a lot of trials/raids would be nice
Yeah, I totally can understand that. Though I won't lie I don't miss hitting Dark Arts like 73 times
That's quite recent
shb drk is total style over substance which I guess is what people want since it became a lot more popular :^)
IM CRYING 😂😂😂
or just a light/heavy armor concept would be good. Striking/Maiming
@proper zealot this and ppl are different 😶
i'm fine with them having multiple melee sets but, at least 2 per set
It wouldn't be FF if we didn't casually take a trip to the moon
NOOOO i want armor that actually matches my aesthetic, i dont wanna get the samurai treatment where all my armor is just monk armor
"But Class identity" someone says while wearing a toad outfit
ngl shb drk is (finally) kinda growing on me but only doing bleeding edge optimization on it
It wouldn't? @cinder badger
if they consolidate class armors i just hope they add materia plates instead of melding armor
AT LEAST make the new job share with one of the melee jobs that doesn't currently share gear
just toss the new melee in nin or drg gear for the love of god
Like... the spell modding ability of Dark Arts was neat for sure, but mechanically did you actually find it fun to play? Not asking to be a jerk or be rhetorical, genuinely wondering (Grain of salt, I am not by ANY means a hardcore tank)
We're about to step into an ff4 inspired expac, i'll be damned if we didn't go to the moon
for ppl who aren't being totally anal about potency under buffs and/or don't play with a nin drk must be terribly boring
What if the ||ascians are involved with the moon.. we know Elidibus would be there||
why did they get rid of all the old aoe animations they were so good
It's time to remove job restrictions on glamour please
It was fucking stupid to play because you DA's on almost every oGCD.
I did yeah
@full dock Moon's haunted
I kinda want to see jumps have a little more purpose than be weaved into the main rotation (and used for mobility but oops used them to get the extra dps)
that would be great, though the way around removing job restrictions seems to be the road with the "replica skyrat" stuff which... uh
Hmm... my 1st FF was 9 so... 😥 @untold gull
Well like, yeah that is how I always felt. But I know I am a more casual tank. Was that a shared sentiment that it was liked among super high-end tanks?
theyre still going with the PLL?
I was full clearing savage in SB as a DRK main. I thought it was fucking dumb.
Yes but it’s mainly just merch now
A piece of Eorzea lore steeped in mystery.... the New World
Super high-end tanks generally see ShB DRK as a downgrade mechanically
God...fucking....damn it i bet $100 thats gona be a quest name ....theres no way Koji Fox would pass this up
And we finally ||get to sit in throne .. Azem is back baby||
tanks in general got a net loss in terms of their gameplay
But a sage instead of a mch 😅
Balance DRK lounge is certainly a lot less happening
Huh. I wonder what would be a good middle ground.
As a noob in SB i thought dark arts was interesting -- but poorly executed. Being able to amp up my healing with da was cool, but it becoming basically just another combo button was lame.
Wait wait wait
yeah but their solution was removing dark arts entirely which gave DRK nearly no class kit to work with
Dark Arts Animation was So Cool
In practice you DA'd like 2/3's of your GCD's. It was NOT interesting.
I got it!
The new raid.
The Floating City!!!
other than press cooldowns when it pops up
why did i think this was a bikini
Quest name - Moons over my hammys
Like you werent actually making choices with DA
Job Icon FACEMASKS
drk was more complex, granted the issue with dark arts was more a function of too much weaving, rn they lost most of that + much of mp management and choice
I do agree with that. Maybe just a smarter way to activate Dark Arts would have been a solution? Something tacked onto another ability? I dunno. I shouldn't talk about a class I don't raid with probably :< -cries in healer-
Pfftt.. 🤭 @unreal hound
man none of those shirts/hoodies are showing up on that URL lol
Pooling for buff windows while making sure you always had enough mana/blood to DA CnS/Delirium when you needed to plus avoiding overcap and trying not to double weave during blood weapon, and also using TBN judiciously to end phases on a complete combo
Cries in AST rework
They did say that alliance raid is gonna be more about one of the mysteries in eorzea - so i'm calling on Underworld (ala ff4) through Silvertear
I would kinda like to see dark arts as a stance (consuming gauge) to resolve the issue of Delirium just being Great Value IR
Its not that bad @winter wren
There was a good amount of depth to playing SB DRK well
DA could've been worked as some sort of stance ala sects I imagine
All of these merch and still no AU shipping from the online store
Yup
Some are exclusive based on region @shy sandal
I thought they said those are NA only
Never said it was, just a little worried about what theyll do with AST to adjust / remove barriers from it.
Also, yes, i'm very upset at that too
What's the final weapon? Diamond?
All are region exclusive to a degree. Hades hoodie JP, Sin Eater hoodie NA, Bahamut gear EU
You literally can't ship anything from any SE store to Australia
yeah, but like... there's ZERO clothes up on the NA store, lol. Even the NA exclusive ones aren't showing up
official masks
I just want it to be fun more than anything.
Let's get all the facts and information 1st and see how it is then 💙 @winter wren
just the black and gray masks are the only ones showing up.
big fan of yoshis anime haircut irl
Am I crazy? I don't see any of the apparel on the website (I'm in NA)
I did say i'm upset about it too
let's just crank BLU up to 80 and delete all the other jobs
ShB DRK optimization is just pooling for buff windows and then going unga bunga
I agree, im just worried. Last AST rework was okayish but i still miss old cool stuff like time dilation.
And if you're going turbo optimal there's some 2-minute mana cycle beancounting to do
Hoping Amiami might have some in stock
miss shadowflare
time dilation on multi buffs was fun
I get it. Like, life on the skill floor is more fun for tanks now, but playing at the skill ceiling does seem like it'd be a lot more boring.
Awwhh 'head pat' @winter wren
i'd like cards to not be really annoying with seals but be useful again
yea I had the exact same thing, no apparal at all showing up lol
Old card system was really nice, I agree
hope they bring back SB lord/lady for ast
Is it bad I want these masks 😂
https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/merchandise/ffxiv this thing shows 177 products in the category, but I can only see like 16 of them... dafuq
rip
No @full dock
just wait until BLU gets COVID Cough spell
just let divination be on pulling cards rather than the really lame annoyance of "oh you drew it wrong 8 times"
Yeah! I must be crazy..............?!
It's called bad breath
So my call now...... New melee job is based on Ranjit. We learn about it and how to play it through einstinien, who has learned to bond with dragons and serpents
Even the pouches are clean wtfffff
"Einstinien" I fucking wheezed
when will blu get good breath for healer specs
lol, Fresh Breath
minty breath
Colgate breath
Someone did post this earlier. Seems legit http://puu.sh/Hea2T/500d222086.jpg https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/571926423468507138/807532022020964362/8g02sfoz2h831.png
Job Pillows lol
The store had a lot of stuff
Lowkey want this cushion
CUSHIONS
The Fat Cat right ? @obsidian pagoda
Memory foam??? I neeeeeeeed
I guess DRG has a pillow to sleep on now.
Yeah my money is on ranjit's job
i think it was honey breath or something along that in tactics
They're showing a new cushion in the PLL right now. Little job icons. It looks nice.
No the new one they're showing
Cries in Australian
Their store is evolving
Awhh 😥 @lilac quarry
Let's pool our tears together
Hugs in Australian
i want them to ship here
Welp I found my girlfriend a cushion
the store's nice, the stock for anything remotely plush is very very sad
Teleshopping
I wish they showed CAD, mogstation (and I assume SE Store also) only show USD.
well fuck the plush stocks sell out quick
try chrome, I'm seeing some shirts appear if I use that instead of Firefox
Ahh just saw it @obsidian pagoda
/toast

DAMNIT I WANT THAT
lali ho?
it's always usd yeah, there's unfortunately a shipping charge thrown on top for say canada since it's not quite the usa

$77 for a barrel mug!?
ok wait that’s too much
Geez
I want that cup but the fact that they don't mention anything about shipping overseas
i can get another rg nu gundam for that
So basically $144AUD
I managed to find some by clicking through the "YOU MIGHT ALSO BE INTERESTED IN..." areas! Lmao
Ehh..?
lol jesus ><
Lol, of course yoshi put his rings over his gloves
$70 for a mug????
yea the mug is JP only, unless you get some kind of proxy shipper or something who buys it then sends it to you after... overpriced as fuck though
there's a good amount of proxy shippers tbh
wait is it actually wood
not usually that bad in terms of the shipping cost from them vs jp -> country
....I just realized it's 4:30 in the fucking morning. Holy hell. Been fun talking with y'all, but I'm old. Night everyone!
Zenmarket is a pretty good proxy
because they know someone would buy that
Yeah, just realized that. Now the prices makes sense.
Dwarf on the bottom
I prefer in game items tbh
jeez
night! \o
Good night, may zenos and fandaniel bless your sleep
GN 💙
I am going to smell like Ishgard
lol theyre really milking the collab merch
Welp, time to save up money for JP trip and Eorzea Cafe merch trip
It says Fruity Musk though
is that "Musk of Estinien"
aymeric smells like fruit confirmed
Salty
Now these are more interesting goods
Make your room smell like Limsa: dead fish.
I'M HEAVING
Did Yoshi P mention anything about the new dd class?
gridania is floral green.. which shd be nice
Salty fruit
Not Yet @molten steppe
Fruity Musk with a bit of Bergamot
"Smell of the Blood of the Dragon"
limsa spells like fruity citrus confrim
You sure it's not fish?
Kugane fragrance...prolly smells like Weeb 😮
Scion and sinners full track list
[BAND ARRANGEMENTS]
Ultima
Blinding Indigo
Equilibrium
A Long Fall
Return to Oblivion
[EXTRA TRACKS - BAND]
Insatiable
What Angel Wakes Me
Shadowbringers
[PIANO COLLECTION]
’Neath Dark Waters
A Long Fall
Invincible
Shadows Withal
Pa-paya
[EXTRA TRACKS - PIANO]
Tomorrow and Tomorrow
Return to Oblivion
What Angel Wakes Me
Tomorrow and Tomorrow (Instrumental)
Return to Oblivion (Instrumental)
What Angel Wakes Me (Instrumental)
I feel like Japan has more fan fest Merch than eu/na
'neath Dark waters might be the most fire track in shadowbringers
crystarium scent is floral fresh
that seems about right
ul'dah is floral amber
They all seem nice
Uldah smells like sand
💔
I hate sand
Oh it 10000000% does. JP ALWAYS gets better/more stuff than NA. Some of the stuff we get and have to jump through some HUGE hoops to get (like using "SE Member Points" to redeem and get something) are actual order bonuses for JP. it's REALLY stupid, and they've been doing it for YEARS
they don't really have to deal with international shipments with jp, kinda natural that would happen (besides there's ways to import if needbe)
Ala Mhigo smells like salty sand
Kugane smells like Cherry Blossoms
Fusionx from GE rants about it all the time, lol
Nah, soy sauce
I imagine Gridania smells nice
Gridania smells like Kan-e-senna
-cries about the Hades hoodie being JP only-
Gridania scent is described as Floral Green
Plant girl bath water
God just imagine the smell of Limsa
Kugane is described as the scent of cherry blossoms
@cosmic herald 😳
Limsa scent is described as Fruity Citrus
Pfffffff.....
Where are the in game items
when you preorder stuff on SQ store does it charge you immediately
@flint reef this I want to know
Still waiting
there are no new glams
@wary peak Yeah
Awhwhhhhh @unreal hound
Where is my great serpent of ronka plush? Scree!
Yeah, I wonder how much the 8-Seater Eureka Taxi costs
50$ i bet
And the minions
i want a figure
but i dont wanna drop that kinda cash right now
ishgard has bergamot, white musk and lemon flower
I think you have the option of having it debit right away otherwise they have you when it’s ready to ship
It's coarse, and rough, and irritating, and it gets everywhere.
They charge you *
Depends on what you are doing @serene crest
Idk, the FF7 bike was $30 and that has an ingrained speed boost; $50 for 8 seats seems pretty steep.
50 for 8 seats is a steal, considering the 4 player seat for the chocobo carriage is $36. https://store.finalfantasyxiv.com/ffxivstore/en-us/product/662
The 4 seater choco mount was 40$ i think?
@hushed aspen Oh apologies. I was making a joke by reciting a line from a movie. 😅
so did I just see E10S illustrations in an elementary school style workbook
ul'dah has a bit of an exotic scent, ylang ylang, damask rose and violets
kanji practice book for eorzean lol
36* close enough
getting really tired of eu and aus getting left out on merch stuff
Awwh how sweet @serene crest
oh lmao I also see prime numbers, I feel attacked
I'm betting that's what the price will be. No official word yet, but my personal bet is $60. minions $30 each
Prequel memes best memes
mount is more expensive then expansion itsefl
Damn, lore nerds are gonna enjoy the books
Jeez, I'm so glad I got the Regalia.
Nier collab should've been like FFXV imo
same xD I got the Regalia "free" by doing the event in-game \o/
Yup
Yo whats this about books? I dont see em in translatuons
they're talking about it in #translations-and-liveletters some silly stuff there
Ya mean those notebooks? No word on new EE?
ffxiv novelization?
there's no new lore book, no. The closest one is the thing right NOW, which is the 'Unending Journey' stuff, aka: all the dialogue from the game apparently
I saw a set of 3 books on the jp store
They're talking about the 3 books now
wow we are getting books that’s nuts
can we buy them individually
Heavensward is so small
i just want the hw one
nope, seems to come as one set :3

I didnt see those in the na store
Someone in NA wanna forward items to a poor deprived Aussie?
no
¥5,500...
So they are most likely in Japanese only in assuming
no OCE data centres ?
as usual
I'm assuming there might be a translated version at a later date, just not anytime soon.
Nope they don't ship any physical items to AU
Nope 
only EU, NA and JP get merch
just like data centres, only EU NA and JP
Unless you're willing to get parcel forwarder
JP master race
yea, japanese only. No english translation available too
I'm actually looking at one right now lol
white rabbit's been pretty alright as a proxy service if you need it really
AUS is the devil's land, so they get nothing.
I've bought Japanese stuff off white rabbit before to here in Australia. They're good.
sits in south africa where we normally leech EU stuff
worked fine for like... lightish stuff like a snom or fat cat
It is ? @foggy coyote
The amount of fucking eyeshadow Koji has 
lmao
Koji 
oh neat ff7r
I dunno. I just know that everything there wants to eat me and a lot of the people would probably call me a racial slur if they saw what I looked like. XD
Koji going all Nightman Cometh
Koji going all batman
and he's began the transformation into a raccoon
Koji is giving off the vibe of a Sith Lord according to Yoshida
Oh Boy @foggy coyote
Does anyone actually use postcards anymore, Especially ones that come with games? I have the ones that come with Cyberpunk but I could only see me using those as like nice art pieces.

He look so Happy @unreal wadi
look at all these merchs I'll never have 
Postcard book
Raccoon race
Do you really want em? @cosmic herald
postcards fit nicely in those brought frames. So onto the wall they go
Corpse paint, sort of. Almost. I find it funny 
...... Imma... imma start looking into parcel forwarders now... IF ONLY SE JP PLAYED NICE WITH EN VER ENCYCLOPEDIAS
there's the last book, that stupid Namazu book lol
Soo they dont charge you when you preorder
nope, they charge you just before stuff ships. You can debit it early though
Preorders aren't out yet, right?
Can someone link me the JP store URL please?
I just preordered teh Y'stola figure
it's wayyy too early for it...right?
yes
https://store.jp.square-enix.com/item/4988601502528.html here's a random item
Thanks my dude
It's never too early. 
we can pre-order stuff right now. They don't ship until late March, but you can pre-order things now yeah :3 go to the url on the stream. http://sqex.to/ShmwF
You're damn right
doesnt come out till august
How much is the estinien figurine?
$60
I think I’ll just get the tshirt
shipping from SE store is aaaaaalways stupid
fifteen bucks shipping then four bucks tax
yeah for me +12€ to shipping
Why i get my stuff directly from Japan with a Shopping service or amazon jp
Probably like $80+ CAD... sigh
Friends buying from JP SE store, PLEASE BE WARNED. If you're buying books, you MAY end up with everything in JP. so.. uh.. watch out, eh?
shipping on my Omega statue was $11 :\ so same price for a statue as it is for a smaller figurine, lol
I had a friend buy non-XIV SE stuff from them before. Came in all JP. so that was a waste of a lotta money
yea amazon.co.jp would be a much smarter way of getting stuff if its available. Certain things are only available from SE themselves though :<
Where's the apparel on the NA shop? 😮
the shipping prices are so high but, what should we do
the speaker eu link is still not updated, does anyone have the uk link for the speaker?
i almost got the sin eater hoodie
yea ordering from JP site you'll get JP language stuff... sometimes things are in JP no matter what (like the artbooks), so it's no big deal there
http://sqex.to/ShmwF you may need to clear your 'filters' on their site if you can't see the apparel
but that figure took it outta me
I... want the Namazu picture book
idk about uk link, only one I have is normal amazon one :\ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08SWPG2YS/
That link auto redirect me to the AU shop lol
D: rip. What about https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/merchandise/ffxiv-new/1 ?
actually nvm found them https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/hub/ffxiv-merchandise
i remember trying to get help on a JP game, and i got an email in japanese for their support service 
I contacted Amazon JP support and got an English response \o/ so that was nice
In case anyone needs it (NA Store?):
Sin eater hoodie: https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/product/629571/final-fantasy-xiv-hoodie-sin-eater
FFXIV Fan Fest 2021 shirt: https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/product/629567/final-fantasy-xiv-fan-fest-2021-t-shirt-whimsy
Sin eater shirt: https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/product/629569/final-fantasy-xiv-t-shirt-sin-eater
Hades shirt: https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/product/629570/final-fantasy-xiv-t-shirt-hades
Consort of sin, Forgiven Obscenity. One can but imagine how this sin eater came to be known by such a sinful moniker.Wearing the striking appearance of this beautiful and terrifying sin eater is sure to turn many heads.
Won’t you join us for a whimsical celebration in Il Mheg?Share your excitement for the FINAL FANTASY XIV Fan Festival 2021 with this T-shirt inspired by the adventures of the Warriors of Darkness in Il Mheg, home of the fae folk.
Consort of sin, Forgiven Obscenity. One can but imagine how this sin eater came to be known by such a sinful moniker.Wearing the striking appearance of this beautiful and terrifying sin eater is sure to turn many heads.
wait this has been 4 hours
Holy shit it has
these t-shirts are so nice, but i live in europe
one other hilarious thing about buying on amazon.co.jp vs SE store: the prices. https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/スクウェア・エニックス/dp/4757556144/ is 3300 yen (about $31) while the same book on the SE store is $40. https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/product/611402/final-fantasy-xiv-stormblood-art-of-the-revolution-western-memories-artbook
yeah
Jeez, and Yoshi's probably still got interview to get through too.
Return of Thancred. 
but the bahamut t-shirt is nice
aaaaaaaand it's over
yeah he'll have a ton of interviews to do
Everything cool is other regions only. Eu Just got a hoodie
now i can sleep
Good day to be from EU
i like the t-shirt for eu
good day to be from AU
Ugh tshirt with shipping is nearly 40$
40 bucks for a t-shirt is never worth it
except for the ordering merch from Square part
Friends who know how to use Amazon JP: Is there a way to filter books for EN language? Trying to look for Eorzea Encyclopaedia in EN
Thancreds revenge
I'll just wait until the square enix sections of stores get some EW stuff
I don't think they sell it there, you gotta go through the NA or EU store
Damn, a Namazu picture book
I think I’ve seen The English version
@obsidian pagoda PAIN PEKO
Guess we may see Namazu in future FF games
On amazon jp
Yeah, I fear buying stuff from from SE, $27 for a T-shirt sound great, even with shipping, but once CAD conversion hits and its closer to $40; thats not even taking into accounts how delayed deliveries are in Canada, especially right now during covid.
I don't believe they sell the EN version on the JP amazon store...
Not sure now
So slowly catching up with everything
By the way, do you guys think Zenos is gonna job change into the new dps melee class?
Use Google translate it will say English text in the product details
I think he is, yes
If i understood right, Raid matchmaking content will be
Tank, DPS, Pure Heal and Barrier Heal now?
oh I lied, looks like there's a couple. https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Encyclopaedia-Eorzea-World-FINAL-FANTASY/dp/B07MPTXDYG/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=encyclopaedia+eorzea&qid=1612606225&sr=8-3
https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Encyclopaedia-Eorzea-World-FINAL-FANTASY/dp/B07M74JVDL/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=encyclopaedia+eorzea&qid=1612606225&sr=8-4 for volume 1. Claims in English for both of these
No it’s still the normal trinity from the sounds of things. Pure heal/barrier heal is just how they’re sorting the healers now.
hundred bucks each though...dang.
but geez the price
they did mention something about party finder changes with this, but I can't remember what they said D:

Yeah they did noted something about it
yea 😦 the normal JP books are 4400 yen and 4320 yen...so literally HALF
unique mechanic to estinien: he will race alisaie for the lb
348
424
I like the minion statues
guessing the EN ones are so expensive because they're out of stock on the NA store and rarer
BTW, just a theory, what if the final final boss of pandemonium is the ifritia that Lahabrea created from that story in Tales of the Shadows
8+ then? I’ll have to check notes. 
tbh I just want that Estinien figurine, mayeb Amiami will have it at some point
I want best girl yshtola
Aitai kuji usually has the jp square Enix merch
Ah I forgot about Audrey
For preorder
Final Fantasy XIV: Friendwalker
assaults your wallet with Meister-quality figurines
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Encyclopaedia-Eorzea-The-World-of-FINAL-FANTASY-XIV-Book-vol-1-2-English/383883675892?hash=item59614008f4:g:VPcAAOSw69Ffo98u could try checkin ebay, I think this set is cheaper than trying to buy on amazon.co.jp lol
@serene crest
https://youtu.be/FJLNV5cYN_U?t=2402
Mostly pointing out, how they SPECIFICALLY said a noted change to Raid matchmaking
NO MY POOR WALLET HP! THE STAT SQUISH MADE ME EXTRA WEAK NUUUUU
Please look forward to it.
Ye. I had previously looked into ebay as well. Dunoe how sus the seller. So I held off
Call me crazy, but.
Probably just means you can specify pf search by heal archetype
Binding Coils now part of MSQ
Glowing forehead tattoo
good call :\ never can tell sometimes with people who have < 1000 rep there
It's more the pretty apparent chin fluff
And we did get info about Laha creating Phoenix, so who knows.
Are Alisaie and Alphanaud going to finally summon the real Phoenix? (Not our silly WoL version)
... wouldn't that be hideously dangerous
I assume we'll find out Laha wasn't totally destroyed by Thordan.
We must beat the bread once more
So, nothing on Viera or Hrothgar? Guess we'll wait til May then o3o probably nothing though
It still amuses me how casually its
"To find the answers"
"The Warrior of Light goes to the Moon"
Lahabreha was only absorbed by Thordin I thought
Considering this, giving Laha some justice wouldn't be so bad.
i'd be amazed as hell if they ever mentioned anything about them
Look, I don't care about viera hats
Just let me use more hairstyles on them
Elidibus's quote hits hard
What?
ARGH!!!!
Lahabrea (Savage)
Wrath of The Ancients (Ultimate)
What piece of Eorzea lore is still left unsolved?
Remember how Laha was talking about the planet being sick, like a cancer.
Fanda's place looks very organic now...
Yshtola's true age 
Thancred (Savage) 
Still a ways ahead but i hope they left the plot breathe a little once 6.0 is over like we won let us have a patch or two of things where its chill
David Bowie (Savage)
Too soon. 
Hildibrand (Ultimate)
Bavid Dowie
i think that was just a joke offhandedly mentioned by yoshi p
There should be. 
Hildy on the moon
i mean hildy should be on the moon regardless
I missed a good chunk of the start sincecit started 30 min before i left work
But it do be
Melee
Sage but with Cleric Stance.
melee dps
melee dps
better be a maiming chad
probably will share armor with DRG
^
Given yoshi p shirts people think a death stythe job
That could have been Samurai
If they have a scythe, I'm going to make a tally of all the RWBY players I see.
That could have been a goddamn Samurai, sharing with Dragoon
Sage is just penny tho
healing with lasers
If it's a Scythe i'll sure be disapointed
I want whip
TF2 Soldier?
Zenos is prob the new job bit out of anything i feel the beast master dream is dead
Or AOE whip for speed buff and call it peloton. 
I need floating blades to match the sage XD
@gaunt star Thancred Savage is E11S
Double sword pls
Kirito time.
body pillow weapon pls
I actually thought they implied in the showcase the Alisaie will change to the new Job and get another change.
Split sword
It's Nym
If it's double sword i go all in and main only this
Double Sword should be like a 6.0 Nin feature.
Dress in all black and don't join a FC.
be weird to show her as a RDM for the trailer but idk
Bonus points if you put Kirito in your name.
I just realized that the huge tower in the middle of Garlemald is most likely the Tower of Babil from FFIV. Since it's used to get to the moon
Its the tower Zenos and Fanny are in.
Nah it's just plain stupid, dual sword was nice before that: Ninja gaiden sigma, Tales of Symphonia, etc
are they adding levels?
yeah 90
90 levels? max cap 170 lets go
Zenos is giving me Dio vibes i think suddnely i love the idea of him being a big bad for 6.0, him and us getting stronger leading up the moment hes waiting for a battle of epic proportions
despite the stat squishing? eh, oh well
We know what happened to Mhach and Amdapor but it's never been very clear what happened to Nym other than speculation that it was swallowed by Ozma
<<Lonely Explorer>> Also true, Lloyd. 
Dont forget, every time you have trouble with anything "Well, as a solo player this is harder for me"
melee dps is the other job, right? but no confirmation if it is physical or magical?
just melee dps but i doubt it's non-phys
Imagine if it's both
Wouldnt it have to phyiscal has there been a magical melee
Nym doesn't "died" from the tonberri disease?
imagine if its reverse red mage
One sword deals physical damage, another deals magical
Ninja :)
So you want Witcher.
Perhaps
Reverse red mage is green DPS. 
Yone leagueoflegends
how will the stat squish affect unsynced things? I'd figure it shouldn't affect it too much as the mobs would be affected as well
someone in NN says otherwise
or it could be a pirate with a cutlass and a gun. 🤔
Did the big brains already guessed the meaning of yoshi p's T-shirt ?
someone in NN
Reliable sources there, eh?
I mean, given how machete-like some of their knives are, can you say they’re not already? 😉
The Wandering Palace was where they were quarantined. Nym took to the sky to escape the war.
that's why i'd ask here
Jenova NN recommends Cure for Freecure so I stopped paying attention.
It's never been a hundred percent clear what happened to the Floating City. Only that it disappeared.
i bet it's a misdirection
Oh, I haven't thought about that, cool detail
@delicate sinew someone is sayin templar
Templar is a pretty ridiculous stretch
Ain’t Paladin a Templar tho ?
Did you see the photo @unique verge
I can't think of any other lore piece in Eorzea that needs to be covored with a 24 man raid
Yes, and its ridiculous.
Templar is like anti-scythe
I agree lol
So it has to be Nym
more of a bardiche user
It's not Templar
i gotta say, memes this announcement has been top tier. Good job everyone
Hi Aoi
@rare sinew my favorite is the whale
Both shirts are clearly pointing to Reaper, because apparently the second shirt is for an album by a Finnish band with Reaper in the title, not to mention the Grim Reaper art
Btw Yoshi actually mentioned that the healers will now be officially spread into pure and barrier healers. I wonder if this will impact the dps part for them 😮
Yoshida's shirts clearly hint at punk rock/metal/violent themes
@rare sinew
Purify the DPS from them. 
@shell merlin LUL. i saw that meme for the sage
Purify ?
Ye sage one also good
do only masochists play SCH these days
Aw
Mecha whale
"these days"? 
Imma just wait for someone to post a "XIV Announcement, but in memes" on reddit
2 person can only fit 2 heavy people
We're going to Thavnair. That's where my Lalah's from
9th and 10th person. 
Me and the boys on the way to fuck up fandaniel
Fandango and Lahabread.
Lalah Ganajai. Miqo'te
Anyways new class is scythe based ty goodbye
Also Zenos has a scythe leaning on his throne in the trailer.
Zeno's sees you as his friend.
Friendwalker
fandango wants zenos to love him so bad but he's only got eyes for derplander
6.1 content. 
6.1? All i hear is housing
In the end.... the Ardor happens
housing/glamour is the true end-game
People are going to buy Ishgard houses and prepare for moon housing. 
See you nerds im moving to ishgard
All the stars become one again
Gonna snag a M house and get in to a 100Q again
On the subject of land. I will bet every last gil i have that the islands are gonna be a disaster. Something is going to make them "effectively mandatory" and it'll be goddamn chores.
Am going for large Ishgard home or bust.
A large is a stretch
440,000,000 HP
im going to snag a m on shirogane, let the fools fight for ishgard 
inb4 they tease Moon housing before releasing Ishgardian housing
Non-instanced islands where you have to claim an island just like housing. 
Ascian Koji
When do we get Ala Mhigo housing
Never
I mean, maybe, wouldnt put it past them, but.....i'm just waiting for it to be like "Hey, an ingredient necessary for raid food / raid potions comes from this"
Endwalker Official Lyrics - "Yeh-yeh-e-yeh" x30
Soken's request made Koji's mood rather "sour" (he might not, but considering the embarrassment...)
Yoshida "Koji is American you see, so he does have the tendency to dislike doing the things he doesn't cater to his interests".
This probably, in context, referred to how Koji is more honest and more outspoken.
But soon enough they decided to revise the dance and he got carried away when dancing.```
Ok
No one wants to live in salt
Amended
👏 ANIMAL👏 CROSSING👏 EORZEA👏 BUT👏 IT'S👏 ALL👏 NAMAZU 
I wanted to share this but think that’s already have been done https://youtu.be/7-bkJ2ZoW6k
It's about time Animal Crossing got a good game
Same, I think it's just going to be better gardening maybe.
You're a little late to the party, but we appreciate your optimism
Though if I can also do more customization with the Chocobro, that'd be neat.
MOVE OVER ROWENA! Now that trash raccoon owns my soul
You guys can go to the Moon. I'll just be playing FFXIV: Harvest Moon
so its going to be a ff4 Rehash?
i saw a really good "6.0 but no context" image on twitter. was pretty funny
It just feels like the risk of it being "well, you dont have to do this, but you really should. also it has daily resets on it." is so high. and on thing FF14 has done so well until now is avoided "chores" as a mechanic

I definitely think it'll have dailies attached to it like crazy.
Don't even joke about that, we're not even getting the full track till the full trailer. And even then we won't have a no dialogue version for MONTHS 
6.0 final trial is a pokemon minion battle against zenos
FFXIV: Friendaniel
Imagine if you have to finish the Endwalker quest (the typically titular MSQ quest) to get access to the Island Sanctuaries.
Fertilize 500 plants each week. 
what if we find hildabrand on the moon
I'm seeing challenge log entries.
I think they gave up on Hildy
hildy quests took a lot of work tbh
That's why he needs an alliance raid. 
Nah they didnt give up on him. He just didnt make sense during ShB
In SB he was clearly transported to another realm by Greg
They made an offhand mention of hildy, i'm hoping they bring him back
“Alright, you literally saved the entire world, we’ll leave you alone for a long overdue break for a while” WoL insistently goes into hibernation
They've wanted to stop since Hw
Hildy and Co. go to the Moon to defeat Greg again.





