retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[rain onyx]

They're also a bad tool for actually inflicting harm. :))

[safe nest]

Buzz Aldren new class

[foggy folio]

yes

[worn bloom]

Didn't he say no to necromancer at some point?

[somber storm]

Double sword

[maiden lodge]

Yoshi P has said he's never introducting necromancer ever.

[gloomy shale]

adge

[plush vapor]

Oh Shrug

[errant mortar]

they DID say most of the community guesses have been pretty off

[maiden lodge]

It isn't necromancer. It will never be necromancer. Also a death mage isn't a melee job.

[indigo plinth]

See, us fighting that boss is exactly why I think we'll not see Necromancer as a class. Plus yeah, what other people are saying; I think he actually mentioned that. But yeah, it's not like we're getting THF.

[west fox]

i think it's gonna be a reaper, because in 0.2 we fought a reaper boss

[gloomy shale]

reaper will basically be necromancer

[worn bloom]

Honestly I thought Chemist would be a shoo in. But that guess was way off too.

[empty pine]

Death Mages are melee in my head canon!

[storm dome]

My guess is still on Spellblade/Mystic Knight

[subtle pasture]

It's a gardening implement that got associated with death bc, like, ya'know, harvesting, and thus it got an association to inflicting death but--
man it's a pretty bad melee weapon in practice.

[mental bear]

Hoping it uses dex gear like Ninja.

[teal geyser]

Listen I was with you but my hopes are dead now

[indigo plinth]

The general thought is that it may be sharing maiming.

[worn bloom]

I mean THM was originally about darker magics relating to death and stuff.

[tight copper]

Could still be magically inclined, just with a scythe,

[maiden lodge]

Only if they use the version named Temple Knight.

[teal geyser]

It just wouldn't be the same okay?

[mental bear]

Whatever the job is I want it to use dex gear not maiming.

[subtle pasture]

hence actual warscythes being curved polearms, but nowhere near the big sickle we think now

[foggy folio]

melee mage maybe?

[pastel coyote]

and the reaper rise

[storm dome]

Let's be real, It's just going to be Monk 2

[maiden lodge]

No.

[west fox]

dual warscythe reaper class??????????

[mental bear]

Mostly because I want something close to Ninja.

[spiral yew]

Yeah meelee mage seems like it tbh

[worn bloom]

We have Ninja for Ninja 😛

[indigo plinth]

I don't think melee mage in the way people are thinking, but having some magical flavor would be nice, even if the attacks are still technically weaponskills.

[maiden lodge]

No it'll be a ranged axe job

[boreal mist]

demonhunter?! maybe

[tight copper]

My thinking is some sort of DRG armor wearing bulky scytheboy with Radz-at-Han themes. Something like Dervish from Guild Wars 1.

[opaque vigil]

I think a meele mage would be nice

[mental bear]

In feeling. Not style. Aka something with a healthy mix of ranged and melee.

[maiden lodge]

Ninja and Dark Knight and Paladin exist

[indigo plinth]

Oooooh, Dervish. What a fun class. I kinda miss GW1.

[empty pine]

My main class when I palyed omg ❤️

[mental bear]

Ninja and Redmage are my favorites for that reason.

[gloomy shale]

Yeah I could see it like a Dervish

[subtle pasture]

Real world war scythes btw, bitch ass curved polearms

[storm dome]

Give them two shields, but hard aggro

[tight copper]

I mean, not counting BLU, we have:
4 Vit using Tanks
3 Str using DPS
4 Dex using DPS
3 Int using DPS
3 Mnd using Healers

[worn bloom]

It is possible that Zenos isn't exactly hinting towards the second job. We can have characters that do wardrobe changes without it 😛

[tight copper]

So my guessing is that we're getting either a Str DPS or an Int DPS, and with Scythes being the shirt of the day, it's leaning way more to the former.

[indigo plinth]

I don't think it's a brand new idea or anything. Would just like to see something traditionally spellblade-y.

[deep roost]

since he ditches the katana.. i can see Zenos have the new job

[spiral yew]

Mind DPS

[worn bloom]

It's an interesting theory

[proper zealot]

Cape Westwind

[maiden lodge]

whoa... hang on. That's like...

the weapon of actual japanese temple warriors

[indigo plinth]

Int DPS seems HIGHLY unlikely. That'd be a LOT to do when there are already gear assignment problems.

[gloomy shale]

I wonder what the job icons will be for Sage and Reaper

[mental bear]

Rune Knight would be fun. Scythe has potential as a weapon.

[worn bloom]

I just don't think it's good to bank on it being an absolute certainty.

[hushed aspen]

Naginata?

[storm dome]

Cape Westwind Unreal or BUST

[clear jasper]

idk what you mean, war scythes are sexy as hell

[subtle pasture]

well yeah they're pretty effective polearms, just not a full-on sickle

[indigo plinth]

It seems WAY more likely that we'd see them take one of the two lesser-used gear types.

[tight copper]

I mean, we had SAM and RDM added specifically because the roles we had the least of at the time were Str and Int.

[craggy gale]

no the edge is on the concave side

[storm dome]

I really just want an INT melee

[worn bloom]

I'd dig a Rune Knight.

[mental bear]

Oh yeah the new job is probably using Maiming or Scouting gear without a doubt.

[maiden lodge]

They won't make a melee use int gear, it's already bad enough with two melee using their own special snowflake armor

[foggy folio]

maybe a dark version of an paladin

[indigo plinth]

INT melee is a neat idea, just, I cannot imagine them having a third unique geartype.

[proper zealot]

What if both

[pearl imp]

Rune Knight would be sick.

[full inlet]

A Mystic Knight maybe

[clear jasper]

Scouting gear would be amazing, would make my life 10x easier

[digital lotus]

Maiming most likely, Scouting for BST :´)

[mental bear]

I want it to use Scouting.

[maiden lodge]

'we now have a fourth melee armor type' seems bad

[worn bloom]

I'd kill for BST

[tight copper]

We -would- have had a Tank/Healer in Shadowbringers, but they changed it to Tank/Dex DPS, which... actually. Tinfoil hat moment just hit.

[winter wren]

Idk if this is the wrong channel or not, but are 2nd halves of liveletters normally this... irrelevant to normal players?

[proper zealot]

I don't want it to use Scouting because I already threw away all my Scouting stuff that isn't 80

[spiral yew]

I mean, maybe they're adding a new category, melee magical deeps

[indigo plinth]

Kinda, yeah.

[foggy folio]

i really dont understand why they have such trouble for creating healer jobs and abalancing them

[winter wren]

Thats unfortunate. Thanks

[maiden lodge]

The backstage stuff sometimes is, and sometimes is not. Last one actually had previous of new content.

[subtle pasture]

Hey now, it's interviews and such with other SE staff and-- more importantly, MERCH PLUGS

[tight copper]

What if Dancer was intended for 6.0 because of the inclusion of Thavnair, but because of the shitshow that was 4.0/5.0 healer balance, they swapped Sage and Dancer around in terms of release expansions?

[indigo plinth]

That's true. They showed Explorer Mode, right?

[subtle pasture]

...else yeah.

[maiden lodge]

And yeah, they have't had a LL to plug the new speakers yet!

[opaque vigil]

Because they had to change the already existing classes, which they did now

[worn bloom]

I wonder if we'll get another round of Soundbringers.

[mental bear]

BST if it even is in the expac, is doomed to be like BLM.

[tight copper]

Also I'm laughing my ass off at every single AST who defended Nocturnal Sect as the better stance for solo healing/normal content.

[gaunt star]

This wasn’t as big of a drama fest as I hoped I guess I’ll have to wait till may for that

[subtle pasture]

because they don't want to make one overpowered and another near useless,

[spiral yew]

Tbh creating a ninja-like healer would make it enough different

[errant mortar]

doomed to be like BLU, you mean >:)

[tight copper]

Only for it to get the fucking axe scythe in 6.0

[digital lotus]

doomed to be great then?

[mental bear]

Yes I do, typo

[clear jasper]

[subtle pasture]

and a healer kit is so... yeah.

[worn bloom]

BLU at least has some fun interactions.

[storm dome]

Noct is great for dungeon content ;-; RIP my Noct

[wet crown]

what are you acting like BLU is awful

[maiden lodge]

Because prior to ShB, one healer was always seen as bad. Not just 'suboptimal' but legitimately bad, because it brought nothing to the table the others didn't equally.

So, they changed the healers and their kits so that every healer brings -something-; this, on top of embracing the ogcd healing meta completely, has lead to the best balanced expansion for healers.

[worn bloom]

I had way less luck with Noct than Diurnal.

[tight copper]

Diurnal heals more and is cheaper and Helios/Benefic stack so you can make fat HoTs that let you maximize Gravity uptime.

[errant mortar]

because i did everything for blu in like 2 days and now i won't touch until level 80, please look forward to it

[maiden lodge]

It's not, actually, but shine on

[mental bear]

I don't think BLU is terrible. I just don't like the concept of limited jobs. I would rather them be normal classes.

[worn bloom]

I've only every used Noct in 8-24 man content.

[hushed aspen]

@mental bear This

[wet crown]

Being limited means BLU can be vastly superior at the same level range

[foggy folio]

well okay. :x

[errant mortar]

true, but i have no reason to play it

[maiden lodge]

Being limited means that you can do some fucking SICK things, in all three roles.

[mental bear]

I don't care. It also limits what I can do with the job.

[indigo plinth]

Just class flavor vs. finding a balance between uniqueness and homogenizing. Especially for healers where there is a lot of LONG-standing player bias.

[storm dome]

Nocturnal Sect is bad in dungeons if you just completely ignore Collective Unconscious I guess

[tight copper]

BLU being limited is great any time Square makes me do unsync duties and FATEs in zones it's the level for because it blows them the fuck out of the water.

[digital lotus]

I'd rather not gut BLU's gimmick to fit into regular class stuff

[gaunt star]

Blue mage is good for gposing with the spells and nothing else

[worn bloom]

It seems they are kinda wishy washy on what kind of content they want BLU to be able to do.

[mental bear]

I would.

[subtle pasture]

Barrier healing is in a weird spot of rarely being more mana efficient than pure/regen healing, while requiring sustaining enough damage for the barriers to be an actual thoroughput increase-- MATH.

[errant mortar]

if they, say, boosted it to level cap and let it do ALL content with other limited jobs, I would like it

[foggy folio]

since i saw in other mmo so many ways of healing i expected in ff14 i would see many healer jobs. :x

[maiden lodge]

'If blue weren't limited I could use it in unpopular content like eureka and potd!'

[gaunt star]

I would not allow a blue mage into a serious mount farm party

[indigo plinth]

Kinda back to an old conversation, but that's assuming our concept of barrier healing is going to be the same once 6.0 drops.

[mental bear]

I don't like not getting to play BLU in a lot of content unless it's unsynced.

[maiden lodge]

'why would you want to do that?'
'because... it's OP?'
'which is why it's limited'

[indigo plinth]

Oh but you're talking about now. Sorry, my bad.

[worn bloom]

I wonder if they'll drop the 1 ST, 1 DoT, 1 AoE pattern.

[gaunt star]

I’d trade “op” blue mage for something normal

[mental bear]

I don't want it to be OP I want it to be a real class.

[maiden lodge]

Any content you can unsynch you can do with blue synched.

[tight copper]

I fucking hope so. Healer DPS is so boring when it's the same shit for all 3 (4) jobs with basically minimal variation.

[spiral yew]

I do like that so far Sage is pretty damage focused

[indigo plinth]

I mean, they've made that pretty clear that's never going to happen, though.

[winter wren]

And any content you can do unsyncd its more efficient to do it with a normal job

[mental bear]

[tight copper]

I doubt it's damage "focused", they only showed off three spells lmao. The single target bolt, the AoE, and the barrier heal.

[maiden lodge]

Says no one who knows Blue Mage.

[errant mortar]

I lied, I'll used BLU for WT

[gaunt star]

And this is coming from someone who maxed blue mage out

[digital lotus]

nah man, give it a queue in PF but keep it as is

[maiden lodge]

Literally today someone posted a BLue Mage LITERALLY oneshotting Nael deus Darnus

[indigo plinth]

LOL, I didn't see this, that's hilarious

[tight copper]

And uhh, yeah. BLU as it is now with Basic Instinct

[spiral yew]

I meant the animations, sorry 😅
They don't really feel magical, more like physical

[gaunt star]

I am not letting a job that is 10 levels behind into a mount farm party that I can clear faster with level 80s at ilvl 500+

[maiden lodge]

BLue mage, if you try, can do ShB levels of damage in SB content, trust me, it's fucking op

[tight copper]

Kills unsync stuff faster than 80 jobs do, like their damage output is insane.

[indigo plinth]

I dunno, I kind of love how busted BLU is. I don't see it as a job as much as I do a minigame, like something in the Gold Saucer but cooler.

[mental bear]

I don't really care if BLU can do those things. It's just a damn gimmick and mini game.

[spiral yew]

Same

[maiden lodge]

Meanwhile, in real life:

"Doing 24 blue mages is the fastest way to get relic steps"

[digital lotus]

just like it's supposed to

[gaunt star]

i think BLU's mimic ability should have given them scimitars if you copied a melee DPS

[full inlet]

When does Yoshi P sleep?

[deep roost]

never

[open verge]

Never

[gaunt star]

FFXI’s blue mage was nice

that would be cool

[wet crown]

Found the XI fanboy

[mental bear]

When he dies.

[hushed aspen]

Oi... @mental bear

[full inlet]

so, never

[winter wren]

24 blue mages for what? Are you saying crystal tower? Thats actually an interesting example if thats the case

[gaunt star]

FF11 Blue Mage lore is raw as fuck

[indigo plinth]

I mean, is that a bad thing though? It's a nice alternative style of content. I can understand for people who love BLU that they're gonna feel biased on this situation for sure, but it's not like they could just drop FFXI BLU in the game as a real job and call it a day

[gaunt star]

Gee it’s almost like ffxi and FFXIV players overlap shocking!!

[maiden lodge]

All three.

[indigo plinth]

This is super common now.

[winter wren]

@maiden lodge does it count for shb relic farming? This is news to me and makes me excited to actually use it.

[spiral yew]

It does

[winter wren]

Dude. Thank you LOL now i have a reason to play blu other than fates

[open verge]

Yes blue mage is what people are using to farm relics

[unreal hound]

why is this literally the ultra instinct theme

[deep roost]

its nice seeing FF16 timeblocks in yoshiPs schedule

[maiden lodge]

Yeah, apparently having an 800 potency cooldown, a 750 potency cooldown, a 1000 ogcd kick, along with whatever potency Nightbloom is... never mind the rest of the kit... is actually numerically strong! Who knew!

[open verge]

Just unlock blue mage skills

[subtle pasture]

I can't help but notice in the SGE video, the catboy erects a barrier and then a heal sfx plays, after the shield visual fades.

[maiden lodge]

This is -speicfically- for ShB relic farming

[coarse pond]

I just woke up and I see beautiful things happening

[errant mortar]

nightbloom is 400 + a 1 min something 75 potency dot

[subtle pasture]

--oh wait is that just the siphon strike sfx

[mental bear]

I have a love for the concept of a mimicry/copy class like a cracked out kirby. The use of magic used by creatures and nature is just perfect to me. I would be personally okay with limiting abilities down to some key iconic spells from mobs if it meant it could be a normal caster. I'm of the opinion that mini games don't do anything for me. Folks that like it can like it, but it depresses me that BLU and BST are never going to be normal classes.

[open verge]

Why does blue mage need to be a normal job the games fine without them

[winter wren]

That legit makes me excited to play blu. Thanks for sharing

[gaunt star]

The idea of a “op” job that can’t be used in eureka is hilarious

[maiden lodge]

And that's not even the STRONG one!

bird kick go

[subtle pasture]

yep, nvm, that was siphon strike

[mental bear]

On top of that, I just love "Pet" jobs too. So like as a SMN main... Well I want beast to be a real job.

[errant mortar]

also aoe

[gaunt star]

They afraid we’re going to actually not go through hydatos hell for the relic?

[maiden lodge]

So is birb kick

[mental bear]

Games fine isn't really a reason not to either.

[full dock]

Wtf

[indigo plinth]

I mean, don't get me wrong; I get it. The class flavor is awesome. I feel like on the alternative though, wouldn't you be really sad if BLU was just another class and it had none of what made it fun? No actually learning your skills, just getting them as you level and being restricted to what the game just hands you. Sadly just a drawback of a 'holy trinity' MMO. 😦

[errant mortar]

birb kick hits so hard, i didn't realize you had to click it twice when i first got it

[keen comet]

Can you do mount farms with BLU? I haven't unlocked it so I'm not sure what content you can/cant do.

[open verge]

Yea you can

[winter wren]

I do wish blu was usable in potd and such but...leaderboards and all that jazz. And the titles and crap. Is there a blu mage discord / resource i can use to actually play blu well? I just fate farm with it now so never tried to optimize.

[maiden lodge]

I think Phantom Flurry is what... 5 ticks of 100 potency followed by 600 potency as a finisher in an aoe cone?

[full dock]

The live letter right now 😓

[errant mortar]

Something like that, its nuts lol

[gaunt star]

You can do mount farms with blue mage but I sure ain’t letting any into my parties

[maiden lodge]

Absolutely. There's no mountfarm it can't do save ShB

[foggy walrus]

MCH was the perfect opportunity to have a second pet dps with the original turrets.

[keen comet]

Thank you

[mental bear]

It comes down to personal preference here. The answer for me is I would be totally fine with that.

[maiden lodge]

Don't know why, there's nothing it can't do. It even has more heal potency as a healer now.

[gaunt star]

Yes a healer with less HP than everyone else whose at Max level

[maiden lodge]

The problem is that the 'learning spells' part IS blue mage. That's what has always defined it, in every game it's ever been in, ever.

[indigo plinth]

It'd absolutely annihilate any semblance of balance. It worked in XI because even with classes, it was inherently more sandboxy, more exploratory. It was still very much like EverQuest's AA system if I had to compare it to something.

[subtle pasture]

And ya'know what, I can't wait to raid, uh, Pandæ(V)onium? Is that how the title card formatted it

[gaunt star]

But y’all do you when you want fast clears you can join normal parties of Max ilvl 80s

[full dock]

Not just HP

[maiden lodge]

Cause you care about hp levels in unsynched mount farms, lawl

[mental bear]

This is what class quests are for.

[errant mortar]

I think it could have been redefined as "using monster skills" for an mmo tho

[maiden lodge]

Not the same and you know it.

[gaunt star]

Shit goes wrong even in unsync mount farms. See suzaku ex people still failing Simon says mechanic

[foggy walrus]

It worked because you pressed one button every two minutes in 11.

[mental bear]

I care more about spirit/aesthetics of a class than the actual mechanics. There's no reason for me to feel I need the same version of the spell as a monster to feel like a blue mage.

[maiden lodge]

People who claim blue mage can be something other than ability hunting doesn't knw what blue mage is. I actually question if it's a job you have an attachment to--what previous game did you play in FF that made you enjoy it?

And I never get an answer.

[indigo plinth]

It could have, sure! But it'd still be 'learning monster skills'... conveniently at the levels you'd normally learn skills anyway and at the archetype of the normal skillset a DPS would get. And at that point there goes the class flavor.

[mental bear]

It is to me, plus quests give chances for story telling.

[teal geyser]

Does anyone know of a really nice like, HD image of WoL on the moon facing the camera?

[maiden lodge]

Which ff is your favorite implimentation of blue mage?

[indigo plinth]

LOL, that too.

[full dock]

We went off topic

[foggy walrus]

c:

[pastel coyote]

9

[foggy walrus]

An understatmemt

[maiden lodge]

wherein the blue mage hunted their abilities

[broken cradle]

They can't allow ability hunting for blu here because too many players go "you don't pay my sub!" so you'll get a "real" blu in a dungeon with 2 spells. Which is worthless, they had to form all the jobs to account for these players by getting rid of "earned" spells via quests, etc

[digital lotus]

BLU has quests, it's not mutually exclusive

[pastel coyote]

we get a taste of their skill

[maiden lodge]

No, that's not why. It really isn't why.

[indigo plinth]

What we like about the game can't always be the focus of the game. I dunno, trying to keep out of that zone of bias is really important for critically thinking about how things can actually improve.

[broken cradle]

Of course it is

[errant mortar]

I think the visuals and combat make up the majority of the class flavor. XIV's version of rdm isn't a true hybrid and i love it all the same

[foggy walrus]

I think people misunderstand what BLU actually is in 14. It's a role as content. Not a role playing content.

[open verge]

If the solution to making blue mage a normal job is to remove all the sun aspects of the job that’s fucking wack

[full dock]

Who gives a ☠️ about blue mage when we can speculate sage & the removal of Astro shields 🤣

[gaunt star]

This is literally a role playing game

[timber lichen]

@teal geyser i tried?

[rustic hazel]

give sage ty

[maiden lodge]

The real reason why is because you have blue mages waltzing into content hitting one button, instantly deleting a back of enemies or ccing them and ignoring them, then going to the next, someone else hitting one button, instant delete, then they reach the boss, +Doom, and 15 seconds later the fight is over.

THAT is the real reason.

[open verge]

!action basic instinct

[indigo plinth]

Oh that's fair! I agree with you by the way, my argument was for the person who was saying they wanted BLU exactly how it was in, for example, XI. BLU could be a neat class implementation as a normal class, I think. But then people would just be upset about what it's missing.

[lusty shadow]

**Basic Instinct** : lvl 1 BLU (500 MP) (2.5 second cooldown)(2.0 second base cast time)

Increases movement speed by 30%, and healing magic potency and damage dealt by 100%. Also ignores the damage penalty inflicted by Mighty Guard.
Can only be used in duties intended for two or more players while playing alone, while no other party members are in the instance, or when all party members are incapacitated. Effect ends when joined by one or more party members.

Blue Magic

A behavior learned from certain species of coeurl, the caster rises to the challenge of losing comrades by tapping into a feral survival instinct. When all seems lost, or when simply treading where a lone mage was not meant to tread, unrestrained ferocity is sometimes the only way to win through.

Obtained

Unreported / The Vault
Master Coeurl / Upper La Noscea (8, 21)

Blue Magic

Type: Magic
Aspect: None
Rank: 2

Powered by XIVAPI | BLU Data Powered by FFXIV Collect

[hushed aspen]

I liked BLU in FFX-2 As Gun Mage personally

[pastel coyote]

the cape is a bit too much

[full dock]

Pretty much lol

[open verge]

How do you balance that

[broken cradle]

No they could fix that by tweaking earned blu spells to balance towards a real "hybrid" class, but they won't do that, because it cant' be a real job where you hunt for abilities

[teal geyser]

I admire you're attempt but it's not the best I guess I'll just keep sad Alisaie and feed off her tears

[open verge]

How the fuck do you balance blue mage without removing every skill that makes it fun

[gaunt star]

They stripped AST’s og identity they can do the same for blue mage

[maiden lodge]

Except that BLue Mage is, literally 'hunt the abilities to get the spells' with ZERO exceptions.

Red Mage as Dualcaster works, because Red Mage dualcasts, in previous iterations of it. That's a thing RDM does.

[errant mortar]

absolutely. i've seen the arguments against XIV's rdm, but I love the artistic interpretation of it

[digital lotus]

they messed one, let's mess another!

[broken cradle]

they could give you a weak heal you go earn that is 100 potency, but since they couldn't guarantee that they would have any tank abilities, or healer abilities, ro dps abilities even - so they basicall ylet you go earn them, but not use any of it the "real" way and thus limit it

[full dock]

Bruh I wanted necromancer

[mental bear]

There's no way to please everyone. Personally I don't mind. I also think it's really funny that people are so damn adament that a class HAS to be the same as it was in previous ff games.

[indigo plinth]

Gah. I'm talking in pure hypotheticals here. I think they could have done it either way is what I'm about. I much prefer the way they did it, personally. I am a big fan of the limited job concept.

[maiden lodge]

making an unplayable job is not the answer.

[broken cradle]

It could be playable if people got the skills, but they can never guarantee that the players would do that

[gaunt star]

That’s funny it’s almost as if blue is unplayable and banned from several pieces of content

[silent hazel]

are we ever getting more interactive combat

[open verge]

Intended btw

[full dock]

Imagine caring for limited jobs lullllll

[broken cradle]

and thus, no "real" blu

[indigo plinth]

I'd HIGHLY doubt it.

[digital lotus]

anyway give BST so I can play pokemon k thanks

[gaunt star]

No because casualbringers brought too many people that don’t understand rotations

[open verge]

Why does blue mage need to be “real”

[maiden lodge]

The problem is with Blue, it's not like what people 'claim' rdm's identity is. RDM has stuff from RDM in its identity, but the implimentation of that identity hasn't been universal.

Blue Magic's implementation HAS been universal--there is always monster abilities that you take the time to hunt. Zero exceptions in any game it's been in. None.

[indigo plinth]

Well if by interactive you mean, like, more action-based combat.

[broken cradle]

No "real" jobs get skills from quests anymore for the literal same reason

[mental bear]

If BST doesn't have dual axe I riot.

[maiden lodge]

Blue has never been 'you get an ability by doing an easy subquest'

[indigo plinth]

That's fair. Like, to turn it around, a RDM limited job would not really make much sense.

[digital lotus]

Dual axe would be baller, maybe whip

[gaunt star]

Neither has any other job yet here we are

[maiden lodge]

Agreed

[mental bear]

Why does it have to be that way?

[open verge]

Because it’s fun

[maiden lodge]

That's like asking 'Why does ninja have to have two swords'

[mental bear]

We are not innately bound to how things were.

[full dock]

Dominatrix new melee job

[gaunt star]

Anyways keep defending “limited” content don’t be surprised where that leads

[errant mortar]

Blu has also never been a mini game though, its always been a serious job that does all the same content. this is an mmo and i get where they saw limitations, but i think it's clear that a lot of people would have preferred that they imagined it in a way that works

[proper zealot]

2784 Bugs

[foggy walrus]

You'll get the TT server excited with that talk.

[mental bear]

You get a whip and insults.

[indigo plinth]

Game balance. Because look if you can find a way to break the need to tightly balance a 'holy trinity' MMO and still have it be accessible, then you should probably work on a dev team somewhere. But it has been tried, and it has failed.

[errant mortar]

I don't think sacrificing the learning aspect of the job would have been too heartbreaking, but thats just me

[mental bear]

And an excitement meter.

[maiden lodge]

No, but in single player rpgs, Sabin doesn't get butthurt when Strago gets spells that Sabin can't. Sabin doesn't want to quit the game because they're invalidated. Sabin doesn't leave your party because Strago makes him obsolete.

And if Sabin sits on the sidelines, no one gets hurt.

[safe nest]

Janitor Job, it wasnt a scythe in the trailer, it was a broom

[ember lodge]

We arguing about blu? Hell yeah.. Lets go! LIMITED JOBS SUCK

[mental bear]

In the same camp but again, you cant please everyone.

[hushed aspen]

They Do

[gloomy shale]

let's get to cleaning in this expansion

[maiden lodge]

A blue mage entering your party, in FF14, will make someone feel obsolete. No, it's not fun when you do a dungeon for roulette and one person just deletes every single everything

[foggy walrus]

Don't you mean a mop?

[full dock]

Mine Sweeper confirmed 2021.

[craggy gale]

https://twitter.com/finowlly/status/1357930676788469763?s=20

ああああlly @ Commish Full (@finowlly)

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[safe nest]

mops are just soggy brooms, change my mind

[indigo plinth]

What was at Zenos's side in the trailer, wrong answers only

[errant mortar]

yes, if we keep it in its current state, for sure

[digital lotus]

a crutch

[craggy gale]

matanga be based for real

[mental bear]

So just... Rework the way the class works?

[proper zealot]

New Duty Finder Setting: Match BLU

[gloomy shale]

Is AST really losing the shield stance?

[gaunt star]

I’m still not convinced to let blue mage into my party when I can cheese mechs easier on jobs with enough health to survive and enough damage to mow down bosses on time

[foggy walrus]

Was a tongue in cheek reference to mops in FF games being a sword.

[maiden lodge]

Removing the learning aspect of the job begs the question then 'Why add blue mage at all?'

The correct answer is 'No point, just add a different job with some abilities Blue Mage has' like Calcuator did in FFTactics.

So no one gets a blue mage, and we're back at the start.

[gaunt star]

Blue mage could be deleted in xiv and nothing of value would be lost

[indigo plinth]

We don't know NEARLY enough but this is speculated because they mentioned a focus on AST towards more 'pure' healing - said with heavy air quotes there

[full dock]

Is this true though?? If so I won’t be doing any beast tribes

[maiden lodge]

I mean you do you, you're fine, whatever, you don't have a button that can do a million damage in a second, but sure, you do you.

Meanwhile I got my mounts ages ago so....

[errant mortar]

because learning is only half the identity, imo. the bigger half is being able to use the abilities, not just learn them

[proper zealot]

Something of value would be lost: the time I spent collecting all 104 Spells

[maiden lodge]

They did mention it wasn't going to be a barrier healer or paired with WHM any more, so yes

[ember lodge]

Every class gets removed and everyone has to play blu mage, that way game is balanced.. Please look forward to it

[gaunt star]

Nobody told you to invest time in crap content

[digital lotus]

you seem mad

[full dock]

Yep, because Sage kekw

[errant mortar]

"bigger half" i say, but you know what i mean lol

[mental bear]

I'm still holding out for the melee job being a Mystic Knight or Rune Fencer type.

Some sort of spellblade.

[indigo plinth]

I do wonder if we'll keep the sects in AST flavor-wise and just retool them to something else. AST: the retool healer.

[maiden lodge]

Yeah, which is actually a part of the job now, figuring out how to make it work in all the roles, optimizing it, then problem solving in Carnival

[full dock]

Nah give me an edge lord melee dps plz

[gaunt star]

Mystic Knight
Spellblade
So Paladin? Red Mage? Dark Knight?

[maiden lodge]

None of those things are what he said

[indigo plinth]

All different things, technically.

[gloomy shale]

Will Sage us a calculator for a weapon?

[mental bear]

None of those are melee dps.

[safe nest]

Give me Mystic Knight, except it's the SNES game and everyone forgets about the class

[proper zealot]

To each their own, it's like playing any games at all and someone just comes over to tell you it's a pointless waste of time then deletes all your games with their saves

[untold gull]

As a xaela au ra, that makes me extremely uncomfortable

[ember lodge]

Isn't that what samurai is already?

[gaunt star]

I can’t wait for Sage to not have any old primal weapons. DNC and GNB all over again

[deep roost]

Hell Knight / Netherseer could be melee

[full dock]

This tbh

[foggy walrus]

This should have happened in SHB to begin with. Astro has been a constant source of balance issues since it was launched.

[maiden lodge]

This is not a Paladin, Red Mage, or Dark KNnight, or Samurai:

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/8/8c/FF5-MysticKnight.png/revision/latest/top-crop/width/360/height/450?cb=20120718054015

[indigo plinth]

A voidal class would be pretty damn neat in my opinion.

[gloomy shale]

Yeah Sage out of the gate will have no glow weapons

[full dock]

Nah not enough darkness

[gaunt star]

I feel that outfit is cultural appropriation

[indigo plinth]

Not necessarily magic-themed in general, but void-themed? Yeah, I could be down with that.

[full inlet]

wat

[mental bear]

I could be happy with a Necromancer like Melee, so dark voidy melee

[pastel coyote]

"cultural appropriation" haha what a bs

[teal geyser]

I'm going to have lots of fun waking up every morning and seeing feasting on her tears

[full dock]

PLZ GIVE SCYTHE

[maiden lodge]

No paladin, red mage, or dark knight is talking in this conversation

[foggy walrus]

20 bucks says the melee is just 14's version of 11's DRK.

[indigo plinth]

I sort of wonder if whatever this new job is will just be a new job title entirely, i.e. Gunbreaker

[ember lodge]

Just glam yourself some dark armor and some long black hair and you good to go

[tiny wind]

empty ur recycle bin

[oak pike]

Man the song in the trailer reminded me of my short emo phase in highschool

[safe nest]

empty your recycle bin

[teal geyser]

Honestly yeah

[indigo plinth]

I would... honestly be really OK with this

[gloomy shale]

Maybe it will be called Scythebreaker

[craggy gale]

why is everyone so mean to ramza

[foggy walrus]

LOL

[maiden lodge]

This girl is not a paladin, nor is her father or brother

[teal geyser]

No

[mental bear]

I'm honestly usually for completely new jobs that aren't established. Can go a little nuts with them.

[tough fern]

Saved one world just to end up having to save another

It never ends

[foggy walrus]

Same.

A scythe would be neat-o.

[mental bear]

Scythe, Hammer, Whip.

[indigo plinth]

Though, DRK stole a lot of that flavor already as it is. I personally do think that thing in the trailer, now that it was pointed out to me, is a scythe. But we'll see.

[maiden lodge]

I mean same, but people who say job established in Final Fantasy as a specific thing is akshully completely different job established in FF as a different thing needs to end today

[gloomy shale]

I guess I have to wait another expansion for a 2 hand hammer job

[crystal sentinel]

it's not a scythe its a sickle , commie job confirmed

[gaunt star]

I still can’t get over how bad the color scheme of Thavnair is compared to its concept art

[mental bear]

All three are in my head for top new weapons.

[digital lotus]

what kind of SFX do you all reckon it'll use? DRK gets all the darkness

[craggy gale]

the dark arts sfx

[full dock]

Unfortunately I feel they were giving us a red herring when saying Necromancer though

[indigo plinth]

Yeah, I am purely talking about flavor/class look here. I don't need a 'FFXI DRK', but I think the style would be cool. That's the diff.

[foggy walrus]

Give he wore a shirt with a reaper on it, probabyl a scythe weilder.

[maiden lodge]

Everyone with sense does, you're not alone

[mental bear]

I care way more about the flavor of a class so I agree here.

[deep roost]

we know they can't use undead summons and have skeletons for legal purposes

[gaunt star]

Ranjit had a scythe and was essentially a Beastmaster so

[maiden lodge]

I'm down with that. Like if it's Temple Knight but it's a scythe-user, I'll be happy.

[indigo plinth]

That and people pointed out that it looks like Zenos MAY have a scythe in the trailer. A little too soon to say, though - just a very small image that we can't tell.

[mental bear]

I'm still sad we can't have skeletons. Bones are cool man.

[heady shadow]

Here we go.
people being upset/mad, etc for no ulti and the people who dont even run the content are saying those people dont have the right to be mad while they get more Photo rp stuff. Yee boi ||gcbtw||

[dim sigil]

Zenos being the new job makes sense

[indigo plinth]

huh

[mental bear]

I don't want stupid meat puppets. I want clean dry and free bones.

[maiden lodge]

Naw, I don't run ulty and I'm sad it's been covid-delayed

[gaunt star]

No one here cares about ultimate

[maiden lodge]

I want my ultybros to enjoy their ulties

[full dock]

The fact they are upset with things when there is a pandemic and Yoshi apologized several times to the community already.

[severe brook]

still thinking it'll be Reaper, not Necromancer

[mental bear]

Imagine being angry about content taking longer during a pandemic.

[heady shadow]

I honestly dont either and ye covid been shit. but I dont think people should guilt shit you into feeling like shit for being dissapointed/sad that theres no ultimate

[indigo plinth]

I love watching Ultimate runs. I wonder if it'll be a longer clear time or feel different releasing in 6.1 post-new jobs. Granted, things will be FULLY theorycrafted by then but still, the muscle memory alone

[maiden lodge]

They took a long time to apologize for its lateness and that's why we love yoshi P

[full dock]

If this happens I will faint.

[indigo plinth]

You could really tell he hated having to do that. Feel bad for 'em. But it was cool that they hung on it a while.

[vale dome]

I just want it to be Corsair...

[mental bear]

Whiplash, all of us are wrong. Sword+Pistol offhand pirate.

[heady shadow]

Ye I dont fault them for delaying.

[gaunt star]

Give us Vampire so I can erp as Bella from twilight

[maiden lodge]

Yoshi P's emotional regret but contrite commitment to his apologies is why he is as respected as he is

[indigo plinth]

Hey at least we got Dynamis Dice in Bozja, huh? It was a nice little nod. (^ whoops wrong reply tag)

[mental bear]

Personally BST is my hold out, limited or not.

[severe brook]

have the lore be that they're secretive assassins/warriors who started wielding scythes to blend in with the common folk better, focused on bringing down the undead from the shadows.
and then Zenos has learned a bastardized version, using it to bring chaos and mass death instead of a return to order

[heady shadow]

I just enjoy people enjoying the content.

[gentle terrace]

So no bunny boys?

[worn bloom]

Imagine if his t-shirts were red herrings this time around.

[maiden lodge]

'It's from the ship the Ravaging Reaver, and they call themselves the Punks, which is why I work a punk t-shirt'

[night talon]

No lmao

[severe brook]

no bunny boys or lion girls, alas

[night talon]

Who expected Male viera

[errant mortar]

ask again in may

[gaunt star]

3D model your own and stop asking

[dim sigil]

Lmao to people who said fandan and zenos will die in 5.5

[gentle terrace]

[gaunt star]

The of probably

[mental bear]

For their AoE they toss a molotov cocktail.

[worn bloom]

I wish they'd die in 5.5 but alas.

[full dock]

Imagine having bunny boys when bunnies can’t wear headgear

[severe brook]

back to thinking Fandan will be either the second trial or the last dungeon boss

[full inlet]

I heard "Australian"

[indigo plinth]

I was definitely one of those people. But it would have made sense based on how they use to end stories around X.3. It makes a LOT of sense with them ending the story on 6.0.

[deep roost]

Keeping the aesthetic theme of someone who has power over death like a reaper/necromancer.. i could see Hell Knight/Netherseer based on the description if Zenos is gona embody the new job. (https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Netherseer)

[vale dome]

Anyone else notice the city that Zenos watches burn looks fairly... modern and contemporary? Or is that just me?

[maiden lodge]

lawl to people who said 'this expansion will be about garlemald' but also 'we will never go to Garlemald'

[full inlet]

oh right, Australia's annoying censorship bureau

[heady shadow]

its garlmald

[mental bear]

It is Garlmald burning.

[untold gull]

Honestly, i'm starting to like them being the villains. What fandaniel is doing seems oddly related to what caused the Final Days which they blatantly said will be addressed in 6.0

[severe brook]

Garlemald looked relatively advanced so that's likely it

[dim sigil]

And their on a flesh looking spaceship

[full dock]

Netherseer 👀

[runic mason]

And we r going to the moon

[dim sigil]

Zenos brings to mind Dio

[mental bear]

Y'know what Netherseer would be a cool name for it too.

[worn bloom]

I think fanda and zenos well, we were off the heals of an expansion with villains that had some layers to them.

[severe brook]

and yeah it looks like the twisted tower that erupted out of the Imperial Palace is what Zenos and Fandaniel are in

[untold gull]

The giger looking tower, i think, is like the tower of babil in ffiv

[maiden lodge]

'i heard my friend wants to raid Garlemald, well I will show my friend by being the best at ruining Garlemald!'

[full dock]

Netherseer would be great

[gaunt star]

im more meaning that a class thats just, has sword and uses magic has been done 3 times in the game already, if they were to go that route i would rather they use a completely different weapon type as opposed to, has sword, uses magic.

Cause like, if we took Mystic Knight from FFV would basically be Red Mage with extra steps. As one of their spellblade mechanics is just adding spell properties to their attacks, something we could just give red mage.

Spellblade in Tactics is based around status effects something this game doesn't actually make use of outside of silences when the mechanics are feeling generous

My point is that saying "I want Spellblade or Mystic Knight" honestly means literally nothing. You dont' need to get all pedantic at me and say "Well this isn't actually FFXIV paladin, i am very smart" I'm not a fucking idiot, but the core of "Uses spells/effects and melee attacks" is something that 2 of our classes do, and we could easily just add the extra bells and whistles of FFV Mystic Knight to already existing classes with no issue and have a much better blend.

[mental bear]

But how to shorten Netherseer?

[maiden lodge]

"Cause like, if we took Mystic Knight from FFV would basically be Red Mage with extra steps."

Did you play FF5?!

The two jobs are nothing alike.

Mystic Knight from FFV's closest FFXIV counterparty is Warrior of Light.

YOu know when he goes Imbue Absolute Spell and then he attacks with it and it also does the effect?

THAT IS MYSTIC KNIGHT.

[vale dome]

NTS

[gaunt star]

Did you pass this essay through turnitin before sending it??

[severe brook]

RPR

[runic mason]

So we got 1 new job in the next expansion

[teal geyser]

No we get two

[untold gull]

2

[mental bear]

Reaper is way less unique sounding than Netherseer.

[full inlet]

Sage and Something

[teal geyser]

The other one will be revealed in May Pirate

[severe brook]

we get 2, only one is described so far

[errant mortar]

Something™

[indigo plinth]

I think I still like Zenos being in the game because he feels so removed from the Zenos we knew back in Stormblood. Yes, his purpose is still singular, but his life around that purpose has become so twisted and it shows clearly in his demeanor. He doesn't even feel like the same person. He seems so much more broken now, and that's still scary.

[runic mason]

So it’s unknown

[full dock]

Netherseer new main 2021

[teal geyser]

We know it's melee dps of some kind but yeah unknown

[pine epoch]

Mystic knight if anything steps on samurais toes more than red mage

[dim sigil]

I love the job so far but calling it Sage feels off comparing to usual FF sage

[digital lotus]

NTR

[severe brook]

melee DPS of some kind, almost certainly wields a scythe

[vale dome]

2 but the second one will be revealed in May.

[mental bear]

They told us it's a melee dps. That's all we know is it's a healer and a melee.

[indigo plinth]

New job is unknown, yes, though they have said it is definitely a melee DPS, and the t-shirt tease was very grim reaper-y assuming no weird false flags. There may also be a scythe or some sort of scythe-like weapon in the trailer tucked away.

[untold gull]

Inb4 it's a support melee dps

[mental bear]

Kinda sad, I wanted a caster and a healer this patch but... Shrug

[untold gull]

Well... Sage is like a caster... With healing...

[ember steeple]

anything that's not a sword class would be great, it's... tedious every tank has one even if 1 shoots bullets

[full dock]

I’m not feeling the project manager stuff like it’s cool their discussing it.. but I wanna see other stuff still, unless they are done ;-;

[pine epoch]

Stole this from a friends friend who has not played 14 who watched the trailer

"space knight man from the moon saves knockoff bootyshorts dante from dragons while her brother with gunwings joins the fight, followed by angsty apocalypse man in high tower watching over Mordor"

[severe brook]

I could see them doing it by giving it a mechanic like flanking in D&D, like it improves damage and other effects by attacking an opponent with others helping it

[mental bear]

I am aokay with this. If it's like a Ninja in game feel not like style.

[maiden lodge]

'Mystic Knight is just Red Mage hurrdurr'

Actual Mystic Knight in FF14:

[tribal plinth]

25 SKUs

[pine epoch]

A lot

[digital lotus]

Til Axes are swords

[gaunt star]

Red mage has had mystic knights abilities specifically spell blade

[pine epoch]

Literally elidibus is the definition of spellblade user

[indigo plinth]

FFXI SA/TA flashbacks intensify

[maiden lodge]

Does SoS look like a red mage to you?

[gaunt star]

I literally say in the message that the core idea of charging your weapon with a spell type could easily be added to Red Mage. And that adding in another spell-based sword class would be redundant. Not that Red Mage is literally the exact same thing.

[untold gull]

An entire video dedicated to hyping up 6.0

[livid oracle]

https://i.redd.it/ct1otj43zsf61.png

[ember steeple]

alright blades then

we don't really got anything other than monks for blunt weapons for example

[indigo plinth]

Thanks I hate it

[maiden lodge]

There's only ever been one game where Red Mages did that, every other one ever RDM never did that.

[vale dome]

I wonder how much the fanfest whale will be?

[gaunt star]

Sage reminds me of Materia from Dissidia

[mental bear]

I don't want another sword class for sure. I want like Whip, or Scythe. We're not getting a ranged class but cannon or heavy crossbow have been a LONG time desire for me.

[maiden lodge]

However, fricken actual example exists in game and people ignore it--like... you want your Mystic Knight example -there it is-

[gaunt star]

$600

[ember steeple]

yeah a whip would even be cool

[severe brook]

it'd probably just work by designating an enemy as a Targeted Foe, counter to Dancer's Dance Partner

[indigo plinth]

Oh yeah, a little bit. I love their style for sure.

[mental bear]

I want to have my WoL just rip a cannon off a Limsa ship and say look at me, I'm a the pirate now.

[pine epoch]

I dont care if mystic knight use swords in 14. It's just my favorite job next to blue mage.

[indigo plinth]

One could argue NIN sort of already does that, but I get ya. It's not really fleshed out.

[maiden lodge]

You forgot 'posts clown meme regarding promises never actually made'

[severe brook]

look it's been a rough year

[gaunt star]

Cute now do one of the limited race situation

[onyx sundial]

if we didnt have covid

we probably could have had it

[spare steeple]

covid had nothing to do with the ultimate delay

[full dock]

Imagine complaining about ultimates during a pandemic

[maiden lodge]

So Yoshi P lied about covid delaying it?

Nice talk.

[severe brook]

[spare steeple]

they should have seen this coming a long time ago

[compact marlin]

They mentioned rhe delay was very much covid

[blazing hearth]

Me omw to grab my Reaper Job stone this fall

[untold gull]

If we didn't have covid, i'd still be serving people

[ember steeple]

the whole dev team had to work outside, yes there were clearly delays considering msq was delayed

[indigo plinth]

Imagine making up negative things to say just to be 'the discourse guy'

[gloomy shale]

no one is complaining about it

[shy sandal]

poor hardcore end-game raiders. They're a super tiny group in terms of numbers so they're gonna have to sit and wait while shit completely outside of anybody's control delays the content they're interested in.

[mental bear]

Game developers aren't people. Get back to the studio and die for my content pleeb. Crunch them harder daddy enix.

[livid oracle]

https://twitter.com/WhyMaige/status/1357871169047646208

𝗪𝗵𝘆 𝗠𝗮𝗶𝗴𝗲 (@WhyMaige)

FFXIV 6.0 Sage is a very comforting Healer

Such Mercy

#FFXIV #FF14 #FFXV_CC

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[spare steeple]

the covid excuse only goes so far /shrug

[severe brook]

[vale dome]

We could have had A LOT of things COVID didn't happen; I hate this timeline.

[ember steeple]

"excuse", people have died, multiple and millions have still suffered as well

[unreal wadi]

Keep screaming at the wall.

[shy sandal]

You have absolutely less than no idea what you're talking about.

[runic mason]

review the trailer out of 10

[night talon]

It's literally a permanent delay to their workflow lmao what are you on

[gaunt star]

7

[severe brook]

it's only a teaser so far but i'd say 7-8

[mental bear]

Imagine thinking people fucking dying and being trapped inside and away from the office is an excuse.

[indigo plinth]

Look, let's be honest, nobody will play any of the new 6.0 content because we will all be on our private islands Harvest Moon-ing

[full inlet]

FFXIV: Animal Crossing

[oak pike]

I’m pretty happy for belts being gone now

[gaunt star]

The islands will be another ward system not everyone will have one

[night talon]

Lulu isnt

[spare steeple]

no i think u blaming a delay on covid for something that announced a year prior has nothing to do with it sorry

[full inlet]

wait, Minion Crossing

[ember steeple]

estinien, more like the whole of the steppe too

[full dock]

Yoshida apologized for a legit reason of delay, yet we have fumers

[compact marlin]

Stevens stfu tbh

[safe nest]

[blazing hearth]

Malding because content is late due to a global pandemic

[vale dome]

I'm assuming fanfest will have the full trailer, similar to ShB, so as it sits now, solid 7.5

[gaunt star]

Actions speak louder than words

[spare steeple]

im sorry if u wanna white knight thats fine but also realize ur full of shit at the same time lol

[full dock]

GET EM RAE

[shy sandal]

You're acting like Covid was only around for a brief period of time a year ago. You're acting like it hasn't already caused Patch 5.4 to be delayed for MONTHS, you're acting like they're going to magically have a fuckin time machine to make up the time that they LITERALLY LOST, and that they'll be able to catch up in less than a year's time. lmfao

[mental bear]

It's almost as if game development is a constant process and when you get i don't know a world wide pandemic it can put things on the back burner.

[indigo plinth]

Vote with your wallet. Stop playing. We don't need that kinda negativity. 👍

[maiden lodge]

Oh, you're one of those asshats who believes the months of delay between .2 and .3 was actually just a vacation, don't you

[compact marlin]

Ive worked in animation steven

[oak pike]

Like COVID probably indirectly relayed ultimate since legit everything else in their workflow got pushed back

[ember steeple]

covid is, once again still ongoing as well

[pine epoch]

https://twitter.com/Kainin/status/1357918750687850498?s=20

кεℓℓү (@Kainin)

GUYS
IT'S THE MAGUS SISTERS #FFXIV #FFIV #FFXIVENDWALKER

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[spare steeple]

and the white knights are in full force go children go

[compact marlin]

Trust me when i say that shit gets delayed. Shit outside of conteol. And the pendemic

[gaunt star]

Covid doesn’t excuse the general incompetence we’ve seen since SB

[shy sandal]

It's not being a white knight when you're literally being pants-on-head stupid.

[onyx sundial]

Incompetence???

[compact marlin]

Literally made our professional lives tank

[indigo plinth]

tfw "don't feed the troll" moments in 2021.

[dim sigil]

For the love of god take a shower somtime

[unreal wadi]

Didnt they spend months trying to get SE employees to transition to work from home?

[digital lotus]

This bodes well

[blazing hearth]

@spare steeple I mean ya callin' us children but you still have yet to bring an argument forward

[shy sandal]

srsly, lol. Such hot takes here

[gaunt star]

See: limited races, missing content, umbrellas

[maiden lodge]

Oh shit you called me a white knight, well I guess logic and common sense can go out the window I see things your way now, you persuasive devil you, how could I stand against the 'white knight' card, it always works on adults.

[unreal wadi]

[full dock]

I thought pandemics also closed down the circus

[untold gull]

Wait, what, i just left for a second and there's a white knight convo already. Well, tbf Derplander is now officially a white knight

[pastel coyote]

i guess i'm still a child inside, i can be pretty cruel just for fun

[indigo plinth]

Not limited. They released exactly what they planned to. God, I hate this excuse.

[blazing hearth]

White Knight is the next Melee Job

[night talon]

You can be disappointed in the state of the game without making arrogant claims about covid but you do you

[gaunt star]

Then what they planned was a pile of shit

[onyx sundial]

We can complain about actual problems like AST still being broken but at least thats getting fixed

[cosmic herald]

oh boy, another day another

[severe brook]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-desperado-winds-ofdestruction-sundowner-grin-gif-18169825

[unique verge]

Speaking of Derplander being a white knight i fucking told you nerds it wouldnt be a caster

[gaunt star]

you know i was gonna respond more about the whole spellblade, mystic knight discussion but this is the most headass clown shit i have seen all day

YoshiP: Makes presentation describing how covid altered their schedule enough to force them to push ulti back
People: Let's argue about whether covid altered their schedule enough to force them to push ulti back

[deep roost]

im still waiting for my Egi Glamor

[cosmic herald]

Ok Karen

[pastel coyote]

Blitz i'm not bald, yet

[maiden lodge]

I mean same really

[full dock]

Yeah people want rushed content because they play half assed games 🤣

[gaunt star]

Summoner is getting deleted due to server limitations

[twin cloak]

when u realize that derplander going from drk to pld is a ff4 reference to cecil

[spare steeple]

then im sorry your an idiot

[shy sandal]

you're*

[oak pike]

FUCK OFF YOURE RIGHT

[blazing hearth]

PLD

[mental bear]

Inb4 "Endwalker is going to suck, dead game." Talk

[twin cloak]

HEHEHEHE

[cosmic herald]

No one fucking cares

[untold gull]

Derplander is like a rugged warrior archetype. Would be hard to suddenly slap a caster class on him

[pine epoch]

If we wanna talk about mystic knight we could move to lore spoilers or set up a private DM as I'm always down to talk about it

[gaunt star]

I don’t think it’ll suck if they actually get their shit together but that remains to be seen

[twin cloak]

lol

[gaunt star]

as we all know, the japanese become empowered by the Coronavirus, Resident Evil style. So if anything the Tyrant super developers at square enix should be pushing out 5 ultimates an expansion

[onyx sundial]

Moon Pld ffiv minis

[compact marlin]

Lmfao

[unreal wadi]

I want a melee class that uses a scythe

[blazing hearth]

Delete Miqo'te for Male Viera

[untold gull]

I'VE BEEN SAYING THE ENTIRE EXPAC IS VERY MUCH LIKE FF4 THE WHOLE DAY

[naive perch]

No deep dungeon?

[maiden lodge]

You're a persuasive devil, I'll give you that, you must have learned your tecniques from the paste salesman who sold you your morning breakfast.

[hushed aspen]

@blazing hearth oh Tempting

[gaunt star]

rune fencer but scythe

[indigo plinth]

Dudes, then just... don't play. I'll never get this. There's constructive discussion and then there's just bitching to bitch. Like, if you feel like things are so garbage, than seriously, vote with your wallet. If you're in the majority (protip: you aren't) maybe they'll change it. I dunno what to tell anyone who is so constantly negative.

[unreal wadi]

[vale dome]

I know covid has forcibly changed how the world works, from job hunting, to how businesses and companies operate, and gaming has been one of these industries impacted by Covid. Pretending like the almost whole year of this meant and did nothing is EXTREMELY ignorant.

[cosmic herald]

Must purge all Lalafells

[full dock]

This best happen

[shy sandal]

yea, it's been said by a lot of people lol. FF4 references anywhere, including LITERALLY a mount and minions from there, going to the moon... yeah, FF4 everywhere 😄

[blazing hearth]

Destroy Limsa Lominsa For Beast master

[pastel coyote]

what's my rating on the devilest scale @maiden lodge ?

[mental bear]

Can't argue with someone who doesn't know basic capitalization and punctuation.

[unreal wadi]

Anima is FFX?

[indigo plinth]

Yeah, I am really excited for some FFIV nods. Would love to see the Four Fiends somewhere.

[digital lotus]

A fair trade

[maiden lodge]

ahahahaha

[onyx sundial]

Our deep dungeon was bozja they said

[gaunt star]

i literally shot up in my chair when the lunar whale was shown off. FF4 is my favourite FF game and

[shy sandal]

originally from FFX, yeah

[cosmic herald]

Lalafells are my punching bags

[naive perch]

@unreal wadi yes

[untold gull]

We have Estinien for our Kain, we have the bloody moon! Hell, I wouldn't put it past them if Zenos is the Golbez to our Cecil WoL

[indigo plinth]

YESSSSS my fren. When that music kicked on, I was losin' it

[unreal wadi]

never actually played 10 before

[maiden lodge]

I actually like you sometimes.

So I rate you New Jersey.

[unique verge]

Trade a worthless city full of degens for a limited job? Equivalent exchange, in my eyes.

[naive perch]

[blazing hearth]

We ride Estinien to the moon

[gaunt star]

Bozja is not deep dungeon it’s Eureka, DR is deep dungeon lite

[twin cloak]

honestly this whole situation brought alot of the "elitists "true feelings out into the light

[onyx sundial]

Well its a mix of eureka+bozja

[shy sandal]

you should! It's actually really good. Ignoring the stupid 'tidus laughing meme', which is MEANT to be cringey, overall it's a really good game that still holds up today

[hushed aspen]

Yes @onyx sundial

[cosmic herald]

M8 just get over it

[onyx sundial]

Cause you can level jobs there which is pretty alright

[blazing hearth]

I'm secretly praying for Estinien's AI to walk in AoE's on purpose

[pastel coyote]

I have no idea where New Jersey is on the scale but i will take it, it's free

[twin cloak]

they act like they make up 99.9 percent of the games community

[unreal wadi]

Will probably take a look then

[maiden lodge]

Me either, I just know it's between HIM and Crowley

[indigo plinth]

Speaking of Deep Dungeon, do you think the FFXIV devteam is looking at Torghast being a (generally) liked endgame mechanic in WoW and wondering if they should re-implement it? Not a hypothetical, genuinely curious if they are

[oak pike]

FFX is probably my favorite one aesthetically

[mental bear]

Just give me BST so I can have a dog and name him Buster. I wanna be able to pet him and feed him treats. Fuck fighting wars and gods.

[flint reef]

Do we have any informations about the new class except the trailer?

[gaunt star]

deep dungeon on the moon with actual roguelike mechanics pls

It’s a shield healer

[mental bear]

Let the Warrior of Light play fetch with his dog.

[indigo plinth]

I would actually die. That sounds SO fun

[shy sandal]

definitely do 😄 The FFX/FFX-2 Remastered on Steam is a good place to start

[hushed aspen]

It's a cool looking Healer

[blazing hearth]

Not really, wej ust know that sage starts at lvl 70 pm

[indigo plinth]

I don't play anymore, but Torghast looks fun as all hell, and I would love to see a Deep Dungeon implementation more in that style

[gaunt star]

what if the melee job is a scythe beastmaster

[compact marlin]

And...uses shields of some sort

[vale dome]

BST will probably be a Limited Job with a Pokémon like mini-game attached to it

[unreal wadi]

I mean, the ultimate is delayed, what else do you want to do? Defy covid rules and shoot up the devs?

[blazing hearth]

Praying for the next class to have a Scythe

[mental bear]

That and it's a shield healer over regular heals.

[shy sandal]

starts at 70 and is based in Limsa Lominsa, is a healer that uses shields...that's about it

[oak pike]

And it will be a shield healer like SCH

[unique verge]

But why do you want another Limited job?

[digital lotus]

Id cream my pants

[flint reef]

Uhmm, a mitigating healer again I see

[hushed aspen]

@unreal wadi preach

[gaunt star]

no limited

[cosmic herald]

https://twitter.com/csmslt/status/1357962926678626305 Get your haircut

seiun📆🍞🔥 (@csmslt)

good luck estinien

Twitter · Feb 6, 2021, 8:02 AM

[mental bear]

It also has fucking bitching animations.

[blazing hearth]

It can actually be Beastmaster with a Scythe I mean look at Ranjit

[twin cloak]

i was never interested in healing but with the way sage looks im interested

[maiden lodge]

Because Masked Carnival is actually decent fun between patches

[onyx sundial]

We know that Ast is gonna have nocturnal removed or changed

[gaunt star]

Last thing we need is another limited job as if blue mages weren’t already annoying enough on their own

[oak pike]

imagine sage is gonna be a damage form of SCH and SCH will get more raid buffs

[indigo plinth]

Yes - it seems like they are clearly defining proactive vs. reactive healing in this xpac based on how they were talking about it.

[shy sandal]

can't wait for the next job to be a Blitzballer and start punching people with Blitzballs in his hands

[onyx sundial]

Ast is gonna be mostly a regen healer now

[supple birch]

But blu is actually really fun

[unique verge]

Ah yes, we got all of ONE stage this time and i've already beaten its achievement. Much fun, very wow.

[indigo plinth]

To the point where that will be a queue requirement is what they said, though we don't know exactly HOW

[maiden lodge]

"I hate content that isn't for me that other people like"

Honestly, it's not for you. That's okay.

For others, it's literally exactly their jam.

[hushed aspen]

Blitzball... the Gold saucer is getting a new.. something

[mental bear]

Hey brodda you see any of dem Albeds?

[shy sandal]

got the BLU raid achieve mount yet?

[blazing hearth]

And I think Zenos' weapon in the trailer IS a Scythe

[unique verge]

Nah, but that's not related to that question. Probably gonna work on it soon.

[flint reef]

@indigo plinth Understandable. I’m still hoping for another true healer like WHM that is not complete resident sleeper

[shy sandal]

best thing about Wakka is it's fuckin BENDER's voice actor, lmao. John DiMaggio ftw

[acoustic sail]

So what is the second job based on his tshirt

[gaunt star]

I’ve already maxed out blue mage I want it to be better than what it is now

[hushed aspen]

I hate this Guy.. but his style is interesting @blazing hearth

[cosmic herald]

Nothing caters to you Sally

[indigo plinth]

They apparently are retooling AST for this. Though that's all we know.

[blazing hearth]

I love his style

[maiden lodge]

Not maxed out enough to know its potential, apparently

[acoustic sail]

Who is the big brain

[vale dome]

Grand Wizard Wakka is the best thing to happen to that character.

[unreal wadi]

Give me the job changes

[mental bear]

Wakka is one of the best parts of that game. He's fucking hilarous and stupidly strong. He does not feel eh should be a s good as he is.

[oak pike]

You know why they are called albeds cause they lay in bed all day brudda

[unreal wadi]

I want to know what every class will do in 6.0

[flint reef]

@indigo plinth Godbless. Thank you for the infos. Any cosmetic announced? Like hairstyles or outfits?

[gaunt star]

damage

[shy sandal]

agreed, lol. Another funny thing, btw? Tidus's JP Voice Actor also did Ichigo's voice in Bleach...

[maiden lodge]

pap with the blitzball

enemy is delete

[indigo plinth]

Not really, outside of art of what looked like some new AF gear. Oh, and one SICK set of PvP gear shown in the PLL.

[oak pike]

I need to rewatch grand wizard wakka again

[hushed aspen]

Speaking my language I see @flint reef

[deep roost]

7 seater Lunar Wale?

[shy sandal]

fuckin Kurosaki Ichigo sittin over here laughing like a raven lol

[mental bear]

Listen brotha I'm just saying, maybe Apartheid?

[unique verge]

Honestly like Masked Carnivale is a fun idea but wtf with us only getting one fight this time.

[pine epoch]

8 seater. 7 passenger seats

[shy sandal]

8 seater technically, 7 bonus seats, but yea lol

[full dock]

I just want to know wtf the melee is

[spare steeple]

there gonna trim the fat on button bloat

[gaunt star]

Just delete the skills and add them back!

[flint reef]

@indigo plinth PvP

[indigo plinth]

Does make me wonder if they'll do some condensation again.

[oak pike]

Yes ? No? Maybe ? Final solution?

[safe nest]

i miss them every day

[maiden lodge]

We've gone through it twice before.

Some buttons get consoliated, abilities no one uses or expressed they dislike get removed, new big shit gets added. Same shit as always.

[mental bear]

Alright no, Reaper is cancelled. Next DPS is blitzball

[unreal wadi]

[unique verge]

They'll just do more "replace old skill with better skill"

[indigo plinth]

Yes, however it looks like they are also changing PvP as well in 6.0, with new small-scale PvP.

[shy sandal]

bigger question to me is the lack of a great reward for the level 70 BLU raids :\ only a title...

[flint reef]

@hushed aspen Cosmetic is what matters

[mental bear]

It was always going to be Blitzball. Blitzball is love. Blitzball is life.

[unique verge]

agreed...

[hushed aspen]

Yes 💙 @flint reef

[unreal wadi]

not enough masked carnivale stuff sadge

[unique verge]

Like the Gogo achievement wasnt even that hard.

[maiden lodge]

Then again, there wasn't a reward at 50 blu either, so maybe that comes with 80 blue

[pine epoch]

This a bit sad there was no level 70 mount for blue mage

[hushed aspen]

Someone wanted whip as a weapon, I like

[indigo plinth]

I need to play more BLU. I love it but I only get around to it from time to time.

[shy sandal]

I legit think I pulled a muscle laughing at Koji and Yoshi earlier btw... the whole 'Laha...Lahab...Laheb...LAHEE' thing cracked me the hell up for a solid 10 minutes

[pine epoch]

But ya I look forward to 80 blu in 6.x

[flint reef]

@indigo plinth hope we will have more infos soon ;__;

[shy sandal]

that's true, I forgot about that lol. So far it's only the level 60 one that's got a great reward for the raids

[indigo plinth]

May, for sure. That's when fanfest is.

[mental bear]

It me. Honestly my biggest complaint about Blue is the stick. Give Blue a whip and I'll shut up forever.

[somber storm]

Blu keeps the pimp cane

[hushed aspen]

The rod looks perfect on BLU imo

[unreal wadi]

Wait, so all the belts will vanish off our inventories when 6.0 comes?

[unique verge]

I'm kind of interested in how this whole Lahabrea thing is gonna work. At what point did he "escape" - or is he still stuck inside of Estinien / Estinien's gear

[gaunt star]

Yes

[maiden lodge]

Right, so it might be they're saving it so you have to do six raid bosses to get the next step, just like for Malboro.

I mean I -get- the disappointment, bt at the same time, the new abilities are so good this time around

[heady shadow]

no

[indigo plinth]

Yes; be sure to unslot materia prior to then.

[oak pike]

Yerp

[somber storm]

All belts will go to Calamity slavager

[mental bear]

He's probably still in Estinien

[full dock]

No more limited jobs please

[maiden lodge]

what if it's a reincarnation of his soul?

[serene crest]

Pandaemonium was basically Hell in FF2. So we going to Hell to kick his ass again?

[hushed aspen]

100% agree @full dock

[gaunt star]

Yes

[pastel coyote]

Well about Lahabred i wouldn't be surprised if the lifestream get fucked and pandemonium is somewhere there

[flint reef]

I’d love a blademaster class. Samurai is all fun and games but it’s a katana. I want pretty swords that deal DAMAGE

[shy sandal]

I mean, the raid achieve this time around is doing all of Omega and the EX Trials, that's more than 6 bosses iirc?

[serene crest]

How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man

[full dock]

Irelia

[indigo plinth]

Koji-Fox ROCKING this cloak in this music video y'all

[maiden lodge]

Probably more that Pandaemonium is connected to Emperor Mateus, which Lahabrea connects through with teh FF12 reference, so it's not really a FF2 thing, but the name fits referencingly

[unique verge]

idk. its just gonna be a hell of a thing for them to try and explain. especially since at this stage Lahabrea serves no actual purpose

[flint reef]

@full dock Fiora

[gaunt star]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/5/57/PandemoniumPath.png/revision/latest?cb=20120611225341

[mental bear]

Reject Swords brothers, Embrace the truth that is Hammer Melee DPS. Why stab when you can SQUISH

[cyan pecan]

I keep thinking of Pandaemonium from FF Type 0

[maiden lodge]

Is it, I thought it's just NeoEx, Godkef and Final Omega

[hushed aspen]

Sounds like a very romantic and quiet place

[shy sandal]

lol omg I didn't notice it was Koji before

[obsidian pagoda]

Is that really Koji?

[indigo plinth]

Koji Fox basically rocking corpse paint in this video right now. Y'all, maybe 2021 will be better. Lol.

[flint reef]

Either Blademaster or Warlock

[unique verge]

2021 will be better?

[hushed aspen]

It is better @unique verge

[pastel coyote]

Depend of the definition of better

[unique verge]

I must harvest a meme

[cosmic herald]

i wanna climb on estinien

[hushed aspen]

It is 💋 @pastel coyote

[pastel coyote]

Sometime i wish for some rejoining when i see how stupid people are

[shy sandal]

hrm, I think you're right. It's just the Omega raids. There are separate achievements for killing the EX trials, but there's no meta-achieve for doing all of them...damn. Even worse than I was thinking then, lol

[mental bear]

Netherseer but surprise it's not a scythe. It's a big bone hammer.

[full dock]

Idk I like the idea of Netherseer

[hushed aspen]

Oh we will be more smarter that way @pastel coyote

[shy sandal]

yeah it's Koji

[maiden lodge]

Okay, tinfoil hat.

Pandaemonium is a greek name. The Words of Lahabrea were the part of the school devoted to exploring phantomology--monsters and the paranormal and such, including constructs and primals.

They mention there was a vault for stuff that was 'forbidden', stuff like ideas that was too dark for Amaurot to release.

What if Pandaemonium is that vault?

[dim sigil]

My friemd is thinks the opening scene is a gnb robe like what

[indigo plinth]

Ooooh, I like this a lot.

[oak pike]

Man we really are in a final fantasy four

[serene crest]

I'd imagine we're getting Ascian lore we'd otherwise be missing maybe? As for how, yeah no idea.

[untold gull]

See, this is why i am so hoping for dark aeons like ffx

[indigo plinth]

We do have a ton of Hellenic references now with all the Ascian lore.

[hushed aspen]

Dark Aeons 💙 oh FFX

[pastel coyote]

2nd break ?

[cosmic herald]

i'm 154cm and my character is 158cm, short gang

[maiden lodge]

The vault they mentioned is still untouched and unexplored!

[unique verge]

Okay, and that all makes sense - but Lahabrea coming back doesnt. Not like, it doesnt make sense he's able to, there's some stupid but plausible ways for that to be a thing. But he's already lost - there's no way for him to accomplish his goals anymore.

[deep roost]

You know SAGE is also not historically a gun user, but if you look at the ability description it fits the bill of what we saw in the SAGE trailer

[cosmic herald]

https://twitter.com/Haurchefent/status/1357909342637289480/photo/1 room scent

100% UNDILUTED FENRISHION!!! | msia post open when (@Haurchefent)

JP STORE IS SELLING ROOM SCENTS....i know im gonna get the ishgard one....

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[shy sandal]

fun thing to me, is that it's definitely confirmed that Ascians will be a thing somehow going forward. Like, 6.0 is gonna be the end of Zodiark/Hydaelyn, but the 6.0 raid is gonna be Lahabrea based, and that's gonna go past 6.0...so yea, that'll be fun to see

[crimson pollen]

another break

[indigo plinth]

Is the Ishgard room scent just a huge salt lick? Asking for a friend

[untold gull]

Yeah, but see, they just said it has something to do with lahabrea

[shy sandal]

yeah, JP has a few things that NA doesn't get 😐 they get a couple of unique books too...

[maiden lodge]

They didn't say he's coming back, necessarily. It could be a legacy of Lahabrea.

Also, he could just 'come back' through regular reincarnation like Gaia, meaning it's not actually Lahabrea but a spiritual decendant like Lohgrif had.

[unique verge]

Yeah and that'd be fine but, imo lame. We'll see.

[flint reef]

Ishgard smelling like chalk and rain LOL

[mental bear]

I'm super okay with that yeah. Something different is nice, I think the weapons for this incarnation of Sage are super unique but it still feels like a Sage. I can see a Hammer still working out for a Netherseer/Reaper job.

[compact marlin]

Laha was unsundered and ...kinda got omnomnomed.

[untold gull]

Maybe we'll find the vault in the source still in tact in a similar way we found akadaemia anyder in the first

[obsidian pagoda]

Is this the end of the LL or is there more?

[maiden lodge]

We did, actually, want more Lahabrea lore and character development, so this would fit.

Also, it would be on the First! So there's that.

[shy sandal]

man... I really hope that the high res textures make it into the PC version of the game and aren't only a PS5 thing.

Yoshida also mentions that the icons are upgraded to a much higher resolution for the PS5 version and he look forward to see how it will turn out

[flint reef]

REAPER JOB

[hushed aspen]

Thavinir Climate looks very interesting

[shy sandal]

there's more coming, #translations-and-liveletters shows that they're just taking a break for a few minutes.

[unique verge]

lowkey im hoping that we're gonna find out that, in fact, the Sound and the Final Days werent so 'accidental'. and that Lahabrea did something he shouldnt have to cause all of this.

[hushed aspen]

Awwhh 💙@shy sandal

[mental bear]

I haven't actually seen the look of Thavinir.

[maiden lodge]

He can't. The method he died is one established to not permit that. Zenos used the Echo--but using the echo makes you vulnerable to getting eaten by a primal, which is what gave us the idea for white auracite to begin with

[indigo plinth]

I wondered that. We technically do have the 4K option already for our UI if you look in System Settings. But I haven't tested it or anything to see the difference.

[full dock]

Laha became a meme because the fight was a joke :///

[mental bear]

Or don't think I have.

[hushed aspen]

Eh?? The city was Thavinir was it?

[maiden lodge]

I'm guessing it's Fandaniel who did, myself

[unique verge]

That's equally viable.

[indigo plinth]

Oh man I think it's BEAUTIFUL. There's tons of images out now. The city was Radz-at-Han, the zone is Thavnair @hushed aspen

[boreal mist]

When can I start playing the game under 200ms

[hushed aspen]

Or was Radz At Han

[shy sandal]

the 4k option just scales things to be smaller. I've messed with it a bunch, it doesn't increase the resolution of the icons or anything... and I wouldn't put it past them to make that a PS5 only thing 😐

[chrome sundial]

I’m liking the theme of endwalker. It’s more laid back and relaxed than the usual theme. Not as loud and bombastic and epic. Neat change of pace from everything

[maiden lodge]

Radz-at-Han, the capital of Thavnair

[shy sandal]

hello! \o

[hushed aspen]

Aha

[polar silo]

Is Ultimate delayed until 6.0?

[indigo plinth]

6.1, yes.

[untold gull]

They said it's the small town. Shit's so big

[flint reef]

I hope that they gonna fix the hands in cutscenes because the quality is so low it’s laughable. Literally PS1 looking graphics.

[hushed aspen]

Hi@shy sandal

[polar silo]

Aaah okey

[shy sandal]

until 6.1, so 3.5-4 months after 6.0's release (maybe around xmas?)

[mental bear]

Ah. I saw the city, I thought maybe they showed some zone screenshots of like the maps in Thavnair

[maiden lodge]

tinfoil hat time

[green glen]

eulmore is also the small town

[hushed aspen]

Looks like a jungle

[polar silo]

RIP 5.5 groups

[maiden lodge]

'You're going to the moon!'

The large city:

"Actually, the whole ass moon"

[indigo plinth]

We've seen what looks like the loading screen and I think that's about it (dammit, wrong reply)

[hushed aspen]

Kinda like india

[unique verge]

Also, shamelessly stolen meme regarding earlier point that "2021 must be better than 2020"

[vale dome]

Speaking of PS5,I wonder how the upgrade will work? Will it be similar to the PS4 upgrade where you get a code from the login screen or will it be like the other Upgrades on PS5 and will just be a thing you find on the PS Store?

[hushed aspen]

The Matanga looks really interesting too

[maiden lodge]

I think they mentioned that it's a shared license this time--if you have ps4 license, you have ps5 license.

[boreal mist]

revive the dead towns please

[unique verge]

"dead towns"?

[indigo plinth]

I would imagine that just the one 'version' that applies to both games would be the easiest way to do it from a technical perspective, but who knows.

[hushed aspen]

Yes the upgrade is free

[full dock]

Ps5.. savage

[shy sandal]

I hope they're gonna fix the weird head wobbling that NPCs do sometimes, but I don't think they can lmao. Just watch this cat's head... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jlb5Q0vGpQo

[untold gull]

Yes... Interesting https://twitter.com/finowlly/status/1357930676788469763?s=20

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Twitter · Feb 6, 2021, 5:54 AM

[full inlet]

Yeah it's just a Playstation licence

[maiden lodge]

Not like the ps3 where you got a free upgrade if you applied in a certain window but it ended your ps3 upgrade

[flint reef]

@hushed aspen Maybe we should create a petition for new long hairstyles..

@shy sandal yeah.. it’s really awkward sometimes

[untold gull]

[hushed aspen]

Oh the Matanga sounds very... Furious 💙

[shy sandal]

suuuuuuper awkward xD

[boreal mist]

only short hair in ff14 sorry

[indigo plinth]

I sort of wonder if that'll ever happen due to there not really being a full-on cloth engine. I wonder if they'll ever make engine changes like that in the game as we know it.

[hushed aspen]

Long Hair? That would be interesting @flint reef

[full dock]

I main Au ra .. guess I’m avoiding Matanga

[vale dome]

Interesting to note, PS5 versions also get their own trophies, so for people who have the platinum, they'll probably get another one.

[blazing hearth]

Matangas casually comitting Genocide

[mental bear]

As an Au Ra, why can't we be friends Mr. Elephant? I don't even know these people. I'm from the sea.

[hushed aspen]

That sounds really threatening

[full dock]

Or I burn them to a crisp with my magicks

[flint reef]

I really hope so cause I’m honestly really bored that every hairstyle is short/mid length. Grow some balls and give us LONG hair please I beg you. Or at least long pigtails..

[hushed aspen]

They look like merchants

[untold gull]

I'm an au ra too but that lore really makes me uncomfortable

[digital lotus]

We dine elephant steak tonight bois

[hushed aspen]

Awwwh you'll be fine @untold gull

[mental bear]

Race war starts now - Woolsworth

[full dock]

Au Ra armies unite for 6.0, we’re eating fried elephant boyz

[indigo plinth]

Yeah I think a cloth engine would be very interesting. That being said, they have enough clipping plane issues with medium hair; I doubt they'd go longer than what we've got without some big engine changes.

[hushed aspen]

Everyone is kinda is

[shy sandal]

SOKENNNNNNN! \o/

[mental bear]

Well

[zealous sedge]

[cosmic herald]

Xaela would be surprised that the Matanga in Thavnair are different from their land

[unreal wadi]

@agile epoch i have some concern, being an au ra

[hushed aspen]

Soken-San Kawaiii 💙

[mental bear]

We did try to eat the Catfish people... In our defense it's their fault for being so tasty.

[digital crystal]

Ffxiv: fandom excited and hyped and happy about the new expansion

[bold condor]

iirc doesn't the Matanga FATE chain in the Steppe end with like

[unreal wadi]

[shy sandal]

Soken, Yoshi, and Koji are the 3 best parts of the XIV Dev Team, lol

[oak pike]

https://twitter.com/arclily1/status/1357942853608087552?s=21

Arclily (@Arclily1)

@finowlly @NorthicSnow Me trying to run away from the bully elephants but SE took my belt 😭 https://t.co/qsAh1EyiEe

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Twitter · Feb 6, 2021, 6:43 AM

[digital crystal]

World of Warcraft fandom: still arguing over Sylvanas morality

[obsidian pagoda]

Soken's heeeeere

[blazing hearth]

New small PvP gamemode : Racial Genocide

[cosmic herald]

Matanga can be different tribes tho

[gaunt star]

who the fuck is arguing about this, she's a bitch

[hushed aspen]

Yes @cosmic herald

[bold condor]

A lowkey primal summoning? Their genocidal tendencies being motivated by an "inexorable force" is probably just tempering.

[digital crystal]

Mostly horde players

[vale dome]

Its just not the same in text, you need the voice and energy for those word.

[obsidian pagoda]

Probably like the Amaljaa with like a nice faction and the hostile faction

[heady shadow]

the simps who else

[hushed aspen]

Not every Matanga is the same

[shy sandal]

some Horde Sylvanas simps are still defending her because she's hot, lol

[indigo plinth]

A whoooole lot of people, haha. Mainly less about whether her morals are questionable and more 'why the HELL would they take the story in that direction'

[flint reef]

@indigo plinth Makes sense. All I ask for is a GOOD medium length hair then. With bangs if possible pwetty please. I have the straight + bangs one but I wish it had more definition and wasn’t made of cement lol

[blazing hearth]

Blizzard is pulling a Kerrigan on Sylvanas just as planned

[unreal hound]

[digital crystal]

At least Zenos simps don’t actually pretend he’s a good guy

[shy sandal]

ohshi Soken pointing out Yoshi's tshirt

[hushed aspen]

Zenos is dull imo

[mental bear]

There's going to be a non racist tribe for sure. Happens with every beastribe.

[maiden lodge]

Also, I finally get my wish--an Amal'jaa dungeon!

[digital crystal]

I mean the self shippers are still weird but at least they aren’t justifying his actions? That’s better I guess

[runic sierra]

since we will be deleveled, what should we do before that happens? other than get gglamour

[vale dome]

People think Zenos is a good guy?

[flint reef]

Zenos keeps reminding me of Deidara face wise so I cannot take him seriously LOL

[shy sandal]

we're not gonna be deleveled

[full dock]

Ok I’m honestly sick of Zenos

[untold gull]

Delevelled what, where did you get that from

[runic sierra]

sorry i mean our dps will go down and therefore cant clear dungeons faster

[indigo plinth]

I'm honestly pumped about it. Xelphatol had GREAT flavor, gimme more of those beast tribe dungeons

[obsidian pagoda]

Why are they wearing gloves?

[pastel coyote]

get gud

[shy sandal]

Covid

[digital crystal]

Though I will say Zenos shippers are weird but .... Twitter were outright nasty to them

[mental bear]

Also like, just how wide spread are the Au Ra to have beef with Elephants not from the steppe?

[digital crystal]

I think some self shippers were actually doxxed

[somber storm]

Tfw hooded WoL had Ascian vibes

[indigo plinth]

Just unsynced. Changes are all relative; clear times shouldn't really change for normal content.

[maiden lodge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/742643125981413447/807444624104488960/chrome_2021-02-06_10-54-04.png?width=500&height=281

[untold gull]

They're scaling down everything - our dps output, enemy health, exp acquired, exp required to next level - they scaling down EVERYTHING

[surreal patrol]

A Computer Scientist before he falls asleep trying to make sense of the squash: Why is 440 mil HP already a problem?
My take: the biggest Integer number a single precision Float can store without loosing steps is 2^24 ~ 16 mil.
To get to 440 mil you need 2^29 so you can only count in 2^5=32 HP steps.

[hushed aspen]

I like the outfits of the Matanga that were shown

[shy sandal]

they're gonna pass that soundtrack back and forth so the gloves are an extra thing of protection... either that or they didn't want to get fingerprints on it, lmao

[unreal hound]

$40 for an album?

[mental bear]

It's legit an engine thing on why the numbers go down. It's effectively the same rates of clear.

[runic sierra]

goddam down scale everything is a lot of work, good on them to prevent server bugs

[shy sandal]

oh $40 is nothing, lol. They have some of these selling for $60-$70

[maiden lodge]

People who think they're getting nerfed by this relative to dungeons are probably doing 10k in Matoya's Relict so don't worry, you won't be made a worse baddy.

[untold gull]

Also, i'm just waiting on alex to make a break down of the music in trailer

[mental bear]

But old code and engine no like big number.

[cosmic herald]

The dps won't be that much of a big deal tho

[full dock]

You know this is how mmos work? It’s just number squishing while maintaining balance

[indigo plinth]

Thank you for actually getting that out. I know only enough to be dangerous when it comes to floating points, that explained it really well.

[unreal hound]

man just put it on spotify

[digital crystal]

I mean currently the problems with dungeons are they go by too fast

[hushed aspen]

The downscale thing sounds nice imo

[cosmic herald]

downscaling will affect very little on our dps