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Correction: 99% of people dont understand the value of any lost fragments/items/actions
"Wakka destroying some scrub on Deathwing's back" - 1945, colorized
Final step here it comes - prolly we will get Ashe for some reason?
Ashe is dead.
god damn alphi's new CLASS!!! SOOO good
OR IS SHE
oooh paladin getting dawn abilities like how drk got shadow abilities in ShB would be really good
oh yeah, Ashe actualyl exists in FFXIV 
damn just imagen we really get the blitzball as a job XD
wait, new area!?
correction: 99% of players don't understand anything in bozja
The fuck is Zadnor
new area pog
An NPC exists in FFXIV? NO WAY
So, who Fran is taking care of? They prolly coming up with some silly explanation
Cause the japanese subtitle always references an ability of the job on the poster
the fuck is a Zadnor
Zadnor
is that the name of the ship ? 
hmm, moving on from titan to?
IFRIT
Please moogle
ifrir ifrit
WoL is about to kill the tides someone stop him
Opponents. Plural.
Guardian : "First time?"@proper frigate
garuda
KING MOOGLE MOG
Steps of Faith
Too much talk of Ashe and Fran, and not enough about the best final fantasy character Vaan
So when is the expansion actually coming out
keeping the shit a secret...
Garuda or Ifrit probably
i think you mean Reks
WOW, ROOD
Fall 2021
You're right, my apologies
inb4 mog
I gave up on Titan Unreal
@odd yoke Thanks
blueball from the director live
Why are they bringing in new expert recipes when Ishgard Resto is doneski?
Titan unreal sucks I couldn’t clear it
endwalkers? fall? COINCIDENCE? I think not
It's not, they've decided to not release it after seeing this shit show of a text channel
cant wait to see where his adventure takes him, just started 12 ...8)
Thornmarch Unreal
i've yet to do an unreal
No my overmelds

DONT not Thornmarch unreal
Hopefully we move away from ARR unreals
Tataru: Oh hey you guys are back early.
PLD WoL: Moons haunted.
Tataru: What?
WoL changes Job to MCH
MCH WoL: Moons haunted.
OH THANK GOD
Can they just delete Crafter Jobs and just make a General Action that starts a Crafting Mode and have you equip crafting gear for all crafting jobs in a crafter interface with levels listed there 
So far only one other person has pointed out the Geiger-esque architecture in the trailer.
name doesn't fit
no
--oh yeah, isn't there gonna be an Ultimate in 5.5
GATHERING LOG SHOWS YOU THE POINTS THEY APPEAR
I like crafting classes thanks
damn i want to see the new job and not this ahhh
I dont want to hurt moogles for stamps please
Me? Also Koji said it himself

it's what they deserve 
I meant not having to swap around for every type of craft 
a small price to pay for salvation
i kinda noticed too
PRAISE
wait
The Giger Elevator
Assuming that's the inside of the Towers-- I once more ask, how the fuck are those "Garlean," random Maelstrom dude
5.5 liveletter, the new expansion stuff ended hours ago
The fact that you have to exit crafting to swap between crafting jobs is stupid 
it looks so familiar outside the dungeon concept art they showed
THERE'S MORE ISHGARD?
I cant wait to fish on the moon bros
Got a time stamp? Also I did a search for "Geiger" and only one person has said it in the last 24 hours before now.
Festivals
because his name is giger
more ishgard lol
Ishgard is love
neat
Oh fates stsy around
Fêtes 
Oh nice, so it isnt totally dead after its done!
ooh
Can confirm, a fuckton of people mentioned Giger before you
the feel i get from not participating in the Ishgard Restoration
same
It's great isn't it? Let the other scrubs do the work for you
New CD client
new zhloe
Hopefully we get Temple Knights Grand Company by 6.0 😦 I'd drop my allegiance with no second thought
Well I never heard of geiger but I did talk at length about how weirdly organic and "mindflayery" it is, Koji also simply said it looked organic and I am not going to find that timestamp for that because fuck doing that
Oh, right. What were the dungeons they showed art of-- burning temple in Thavnair, Something Lunar(?), and a totally-not-haunted trainyard?
its gonna be the elezen guy who helped the orhpans this patch, bet
same
zhloe's mother 
what a banger bgm ishgard has
I mean, Grand Companies serve no purpose
also, multiple people mentioned H R Giger, and yes, you count as one
Blu can hit 2 billion damage, that 440 million HP boss is nothing.
Lol
uhh
Who the fuck is that guy btw seriously?
maybe after his new outfit we get a chance to see zenos butt
who
no ultimate announced for 5.5?
ooh, are they allowing three 3-stars, a 4-star, and a 5-star?
collect all those cards!
Wym?
any news for ultimate
I find it funny how Endwalker is releasing during a pandemic.
This does not help me
I was so hoping one of the new classes would be a necromancer
That's an example of H R Giger art
home office exist
Xenomorphs were designed on his work, for another
DELIVERY CLIENT BETTING BACK ON
oh so he isn't a writer or anything, got it
ARE THEY REMOVING THE LIMIT
@maiden lodge l-l-look at you dragoon. A pathetic creature of m-meat and bone
Also he designed the Aliens, in... Alien
Multiple 4 stars, thank fuck
neat
HR Giger was a conceptual artist best known for his contributions to work such as the xenomorphs in Ridley Scott's ALIEN.
Let ME USE A DECK OF 4s, its the one thing making TT garbage
H.R. Geiger, an artist who would was famous for his art depicting biomechanical body horror. His painting "Necronom IV" served as inspiration for the original Alien movie, which he also worked on.
LEVEL 70 DUNGEONS
dont see anythin about ultimate, so im assumin they hvae talk about it yet?
He also designed a lot of the stuff in the David Lynch Dune Movie--much of which couldn't be filmed for being TOO wierdrotic
I CAN TAKE PHOTO AT THE SHISUI PALACE
it's spelt giger tho
Blue is perfect. The best content in the game.
ayy SB dungeons in Explorer's Mode
Agreed
YES
geiger is for the radiation counter
Wait, was it only lvl 80 dungeons b4?
it's very reminiscent of the engineer ship from 1978 alien
BLU could be better, mostly by allowing Eureka, but it's good yeah
Oh, that could be why XD
Well, ShB only, so Holminster is currently the lowest lvl dungeon in Explorer Mode
I like BLU being a limited-job don't @ me
hold concerts in explorer mode!
Blue doesn't have anything to do in Eureka, and anything that fucks with damage calculations (weapon damage) might not actually work with blue mage
f the haters
I actually resubscribe just for BLU. I don't do that for any other content. I can't wait for BST in 6.0
Agreed
BRD BUFFED
Well even then, only two people mentioned it, heh.
Alabomb said it too
I miss liveletter? o3o what happened?
I'm @'ing you bc you are correct
They can't give Blue fucking Matra Magic and Ultravibe and Tingle Trident memes if it weren't limited, lawl
Its on going
wdym missed it? it's on right now
cant wait for all the modders to come out with a nouliths mod that just makes them flying glocks
What's the point of enabling/disabling level and item level sync in explorer mode
It should be called an Unlimited class
Oh, lovely. What happened, so far?
#translations-and-liveletters, just shows whats coming
more like giant c-


a wealth of content centered around a custom job? even the premise is dope
cabage ?
Using level 80 skills in sub-80 cexploring duties
say it! say it!
Giant c-----
----cookies
New instrument time to fucking shred
oh oh
BRD BUFFED YET AGAIN
BRD KEEPS WINNING
I mean, why isn't it unsync by default
👀👀👀
allied beast tribe is this patch 
The lunarians will be interesting, but kinda weird they a beast tribe
dont forgot the bard 10 potency buff in patch note later
YO
WHOA
Gold dragon mount yeah?
giant ginger cookies to shoot at Alisaie to keep her pacified
yo! that's dope!
THATS A SICK FINAL MOUNT
this looks like a digimon
thats a bit much
I LOVE IT
Ragnarok Mount
Yo that slaps
that mount is B I G
patch 5.5: Death Unto Dawn, first part launching April 13, second late May. Ft. Diamond and YoRHa part 3. MSQ dungeon is the Amalj'aa homeland, Paglth'an

is that a mecha bahamut
i need all my draggos!
can i get people to carry me plz
OHHHH
Bard mains rise
holy shit
Nah, flying dongs! Like infamous Second Life raid, or the RL flying dick drone during that Garry Kasparov press conference that was inspired by said raid.
whats that, luke mecha godzilla
TIME TO HUNT DRAGONS I GUESS
--is that the all gwiber mount
Fuck. Who wants to help me farm dragons.
uh where's that mount from?
oh shit, my bad, why did i have reply on 
oh my God I love and hate that mount
all gwibers
so glad I have 6 of the mounts already
holy shiet is that a mout
A dragon MIG-35
That's the ShB EX meta mount @crystal sentinel
Starscream as a dragon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/151558839005741056/807501356674973727/unknown.png rocket dragon let's go!
I still haven't farmed doggos
Fuck i gotta dragon farm now
Uhhh where is the dragon? I dont see komgggg
time to learn all of the extremes
Can it... transform ? 👀
fuck you megatron I'm leader now
I can see that transforming
how does this mount have anything to do with dragons
someone carry me and help me get all the dragons damn
The dragons combine to pilot a drobo dragon
gonna be farming that trial so hard until I get the last dragon
its a dragon
oh gotta defeat wol ex
it's
It's clearly a dragon...
What's the name of this mount I must know
Lyon forgot about the slowmode
ULTIMATE
oh no someone spoiled it.
someone is saying its a reskinned midgard
a dragon
Tactical Bahamut Missile Incoming
I know using your eyes is hard, but you're a big boy nowq
It's a rocket dragon with rockets and dragon
Tbf, the Gwibers themselves are sorta "false dragons," so a mecha one being the "final" tracks
DRAGONSONG
an apology?
THORDAN
omgggggggg nidhogg
I waited my turn 
Dragonsong war ultimate baby
FUCKS
NIDHOGGEST
Dragonsong War Ultimate?!
eggnog (ultimate)
no way
DRAGONSONG WAR ULTIMATE
nidhogg ultimate
That's the funniest shiz today. People that hit enter a lot get rekt by slomo.
HELLYEAH
DWU 
HEAVENSWARD STANS RISE UP
...is that the final name...
Thordan + Nidhogg
what if? siiiick
thordan riding nidhogg
YO THAT LEAK/DATAMINE WAS LEGIT??
another one to cross off the list
dragon knight
bingo yet?
Thordon V. Nidhogg and you’re stuck in the middle
i want thordan more then nidhogg
zordon riding estinien
that new dragon mount makes me wanna do extreme trials to farm all dragons
No bingo yet, I'm close though, just need technical difficulties Rump
Thordhogg
if only
Thordan using both Eyes and them merging
Haven't peeps been saying this will be the next ultimate for a while?
Yes
damn delayed :((
ascian nidhogg
thordan achieves rinnegan
That or Shinyru
King Thordan and his Knights Twelve + Nidhogg, maaaaybe Shiva and Hraesveglr but I guess that idea went up in Eden
Thordan was the logical choice for the next Ultimate, the question was whether it'd be with Nidhogg or the Warring Triad because either makes sense
MFW Nidhogg in ultimate
Moogle mog Nidhogg
'New ultimate!'
It's just prenerf steps of faith, and the first mechanic is the party not /leaving the second they see it's Steps of Faith
estinien riding thordan riding nidhogg
6.1 at any rate
oof
6.1
6.1 yeee
OOOOOF
6.1 fook
JEEEEZ
NOOOOO
OW
so next year
Ouch,
can't wait to go to Zadnor
that sucks
yikes
yikes
looool
Heavensward Stans stand down
owie and poopy
idc not doing that anyway kek
We still coming back to ishgard in 6.1, baby - hell yeah
Fucking same
Wait how many ultimates does the game have?

3 so far
ishgard will never leave us
6.1 is like nearly a year away right?
a single ultimate in an entire expansion
Three, FCoB, UWU, and TEA
well i should learn the more mechanics heavy ex trials
Those weapons will look bad like most UItimate weapons
UwU, Ucob, tea
This fall
that's 6.0
6.1 is 2022
more like winter.
Fall + 3 months
This is garbage
Wrong but ok
no its cool smh
Yeah just winter 2021 unless something really bad happens
6.0 is this fall. No idea how they're going to release 6.1 at the same time.
i like it\
Oh wait yea nvm

6.1 will be winter 21/22
its gorgeous, it looks like a yugioh dragon
6.0 is set for fall, if it's early fall 6.1 could maybe be December, but 2022 is far more likely
Seto Kaiba would be proud
YOU DARE DISS THE ROBOT DRAGON 😡
perfect for ast mains
6.1 will be 2022 for sure
I was expecting literally anything else
if we don't get 3 ultimates then in 6.x I'll be mad
fuck it really is that
Fuck you I can't hear your complaints over the roar of my dragonjet engines
Imagine not being down for robo dragons
So Ultimate next year
You mess you with the dragon you get the shotgon
its fookin mech godzilla now we are close to godzilla vs kong movie
Had to delay it because of Covid
Kk I still have the best mount which is the ultimate kamuy from stormblood
jobtimejobtime
That's not a dragon! I'm blind! But I know it's not a dragon
So understandable
Again, Gwibers are fake dragons, mecha dragon is a solid capstone 
It's a robot dragon jet!
Yeah, I mean, if we're all made to choose between Endwalker and Ultimate, you know what everyone's gonna choose
Must’ve been smoking some next level shit to come up with that thing
Ultimate is literally the least played content
endwalker
I'M SO FUCKING EXCITED
That's clearly a bike.
It's Beast Wars Transmetal 2 Megatron
UltimateWalker
endwanker
Boohoo the savage raiders don’t get their 0.1% raid
ALPHINAUD ISN'T USELESS ANYMORE
what's the shorthand for this now, DSWU?
You right and I'll ride my laserjetdragonbike happily fuck haters
It's gonna be DWU
what are they talking now
got a big dopey smile on my face, the music was sick, whatever class alphinaud becomes looks sick

6.1
so what would be the reward for Ultimate Dragonsong? Anima? For the love of god not Anima relics.
#translations-and-liveletters I don't know, if only there was a channel where we could find out
THE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
No I mean, what're people gonna shorten it to 
Anima was my favorite aeon of all timeeee
@foggy folio hyes talking about how they produce ultimates i think,if u go by the translation room here
Speak Japanese 4Head
thx
You don't understand Japanese? And you're playing a japanese MMO? What are you, stupid?!
ALso song sound incomplete, it's soken knda raspily singling there, which implies they'll have another male rock singer that is not Soken actually sing its final form
MORE JASON MILLER
@viral coral I think TEA uses anima weapons as a base
Exactly! Imagine playing yucky gaijin english VA
i want raubahn to sing to me again
Thordan Lux weapons?
give us a first look final relics, pls -_-
unless they want to use the later forms or even eureka weapons
Ultimate Eureka
i want to know more about the new job oh lord this teasing
holy SHIT i knew they'd make machine healer in some way some how
probably use the Round weapons as a base likeleh
I main whm, but I think I found a new main
Ultimate Canopus.... 
Imagine not having Alisae destroy your eardrums every time she has Voice lines!
if it gets a name that has a nice acronym then we'll use that
Ultimate Stick
and god i was not dissapointed, i'm so happy with the way it turned out; my only problem is i don't know why they chose sage of all names
Oh yeah, ultimate animas
That's Tataru not Alisaie
It's prolly gonna be SAG
I skip Tataru's lines as a matter of principle.
Japanese Alisaie is tolerable
SGE
SGE
i say it will be SGE
Which is just funny way too funny
@rain onyx They use the early stage yea, but I just hope not the Lux weapons
sge sounds better
SAG 
Saggy sage

SAG please
Rip the raiders when the arnor they just spent time to get is going to be considered useless in 6.1
The new ultimate acronym will be DESU
cant wait to main SAG in EW
inb4 its AGE
My first time hearing her, but I think the JPN is better than the eng.
just make it SAE tbh
Oh no
foxclons hoodie looks comfy i should get more superdry stuff
im actually too used to ENG for Jp to work for me
english Alisaie feels weirdly old but both are nice
has the new dps been showcased yet?
i like the german voices a lot compared with eng
Dragonsong BiS will be P4S gear 
New DPS will be shown in May.
SAM AF5 gear do be looking fine ass tho
@rugged sorrel no
wat
English Alisaie does not sound remotely sixteen but she's great
Oh boy, can't wait till it comes out
husky women are 5 stars.
i still don't know why we're getting a 5TH dps
it's either caster or melee
the nest ultimate is delayed to 6.1
because dps is the most played role
Someone hasn't played an MMO / Live game before
It’s melee
Did we see dragoon new gear ? 
they said in endwalker showcase they show us more about the new dps on the interview
dps sells expansions
It's a melee DPS, they already mentioned.
they said it was melee
it's listed as melee
A 5th MELEE
melee
Estinien is still in his same gear
adding another melee dps is kind of a universe brain move
WHERE'S MY CASTER 
gotta make ninja and dragoon share gear
i know, that's what i meant. we have 3 casters and ranged, why a fifth melee
i guess this depends if they scale it for 80 or 90, no?
Yeah its a melee dps, could be necromancer/reaper or beserker imo
blu was ur caster
Because fights are sort of designed to have two melee dps even though the meta doesn't always work out that way
7.0 will add 10 healers
there are 6 ranged only 4 melee
er, that shoulda been a reply to the other one, rip
i
May will have the Reaper job trailer?
its a dps and it is DEATH THEMED - pls, no church templars omg
Dunno why necromancer is so popular of a theory.
if you are watching the live letter... look at yoshi's shirt
So we're ending the story that started in ARR story in EW right?
Quick logic.
Most fights are designed around having two dps in melee range as a base, and two ranged as a base.
Thus, they do actually need more melee class dps than the other two roles.
fair enough actually, 6 ranged, split between physical and magic
these dudes shredding
i kinda doubt they'll reveal the second job today since they said it was for later
TACOS
What a bop
But it's not the end of XIV as we know it?
big fat tacos
BIG FAT TACOS SO BIG
yo make the new melee dps a magical based one
woah thats sick
they're doing the new class at the digifanfest i think
how the fuck did wol make the square enix foot
I'm still holding out hope for a melee magical DPS, could be really interesting. And no, they won't reveal today; they already said May

Yoshi-P had a shirt with a reaper holding a scythe....

I love the background dancing
This music slaps
Also reminder the arc will come to a close in 6.0, and 6.1 will kick off the new one 
Tacos 
chicken tenders

MAKE IT GEOMANCER, GIVE US A HAMMER
:twinning:
The boots were crafted by the most famed blacksmith in all the land

I remember when I dropped necromancer in here awhile back and everyone gave me sht and told me geomancer is better 
The dancing Scion tho
there's two type of melee dps Heavy and light, oh and dragoon by it's self. and two ranged dps magic and boring.
Pog
LMAO Ascian cosplayer
pretty poggers that they actually mentioned 6.0 like that
Even more optimistically:
Yoshi P sees FFXIV as his life's work which basically means, unless he gets fired or they pull the plug, he'll run the game his entire life.
oh god the piano arrangement
moonlight sonata??
pa paya
PA PAYA
Pap papa
PAPAYA
uehrfuiehfijkeshiovfh
NANI ?
lmao falalala
This version of the song is super good
banger
AHHHH
FALALALA
OH MY GOD PUNK ROCK TITANIA
Oh it's the anime outro
absolute banger

Its probably going to be Necromancer or some kind of scythe wielding melee dps. First the shirt in the 6.0 announcement with the reaper there. Then the scythe looking weapon in the 6.0 teaser trailer with Zenos. Then finally Yoshi-P's shirt in the 5.5 live letter having a reaper with a scythe.
sophiaaaaaaa
This is the season 2 OP
omg
POGGER
😍
yaaaas queen yaaaas
this one hits hard
This What Angel Wakes cover.....
wait what? I missed it, i'm punk af, love that shit.
'we need more remixes of What Angel Wakes Me'
5.1 Audio POG
the tempest theme always gets me 😩
music giving me the feels :((
WE FALLLLLL
WE FALLLLLLLL
WE FALLLLLL
WE FALLLLLLL
WE FALL!
this is cool but whens shb on spotify
WE FALLLLL
WE FALLLL
WE FAAALLLL
WE FALLLLLLLLLL
This piano stuff is reminding me of the best FFXIV album cover to grace our eyes
WE FALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
LEVIATHAAAANNNNN
tiny hoooooorse
The album's name is Scions and Sinners!
6.0 trailer theme is giving me like. Blink-182's calmer stuff vibes.
put pulse on spotify
They better play this live for the fanfest

So besides me
I WANT THIS
That album art... 
that cover
march 24th
i need that for my gym time omg


ff14 comeback album
Emetttt hot damn
i hope the EW OST will be as good as ShB
Still not as good as the Elidibus piano one
Who is ready to main Sage, the gun mage?
thing i'm looking forward to the most is Sage's LB

twinning trap remix lets go
that trailer song is already growing on me
I miss 8.2
So we only had one trial named for 6.0 today, huh, Anima?
Judging by the main theme, EW's OST will fucking slap.
Cause I can't wait to SAG
bro the Traping
yes 
How long are the breaks usually?
Did they not announce allied beast tribe rewards?
the trapping
6.0 gonna have a banger of a soundtrack
bro the music in trailer, im losing it
I just want to know to what degree the Endwalkers song is going to drop in the full trailer
okay so, i hold shb too might on my epic list.
6.0 will be shit if it doesnt surpass it. which I iknow it prob will
lets be real this is the worst song of pulse 
at least yoshi said fandaniel wouldn't be the final boss of 6.0 which is nice
I'd lol if SGE was a healer, and you use healing bullets to shoot your party members to heal them
My reality allows for scythe wielding jobs not related to themes of death.
I don't know but I need it in my veins.
SGE is a healer tho
Sage is a healer.
hng Jason Miller hype is real, even if unconfirmed
i cant wait to see the full trailer tho
so when are the trailers usually shown before the patch?
wdym all healers do dps 
Next LL should be the trailer.
2 weeks before
that shit is gonna be hype
It is, and you use those to shield people.
Is it over?
or stab them
If only Sage is not a healer..... if only she's a true hybrid between mage and healer... like real final fantasy games
nah, break
It's a barrier healer, with AST and i -think- SCH being reworked to align to pure and barrier more, respectively
Honestly might be a hot take but I hope it doesn't drop as hard as Shadowbringers, I kinda like the subdued aspect of it, it's not the most hype inducing but the idea of just....whispers as the world ends sounds pretty good to me
all healers are hybrids in this game
Super hype to go to the moon
stop i can't put frog emojis that fast
SIX POINT ONE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
What is happening in here
clocking out, but hybrids are grossly unruly to balance in an mmo
Stop it
Join us
were just jammin officer
frogs are happening, apparently
NEVER
🐸
--is SCH being reworked to more barrier healing confirmed or are people just assuming bc the AST compliment was confirmed
Unless you make all healers hybrids by default.
Which they are.
hybrids aren't happening, hashtag deal with it
Death Unto Dawn
is it a crime to party
Who dies
BREKFAST

Everyone
zenos
Aliasae definitely dies
I fully agree with that.
In the context that healers do some DPS, yeah, they're hybrid in that sense, but so are tanks.
Disagree. A hybrid would be a healer who also can output some damage, but not as much as dps can.
Which we have.
Healers -are- hybrids. There's no nonhybrid healer
ANd yes, I agree, tanks are hybrids too!
they prolly gonnta talk abit about 6.0 now - is there anything else about 5.5 yet?
Don't you know SCH is a green DPS.
LALALALA LALALALA
I mean, it depends on what they are referring to as 'barrier healing' - if that means what SCH looks like now or something entirely different. They DID say that there was a change in roles for party comp for healers, so if I had to guess, which I could be very wrong, is that there may be more of a 'pure healer, co-healer' comp style forming
urianger will die and everyone who has ever had to try to read his unvoiced dialogue will immediately rejoice
By barrier healer they mean like scholar.
still not sure what i main until endwalker scholar, astro or bard
This isn’t pulse titania it’s primals
this song in the stream is sung by a guy for scions and sinners
Why would you speaketh such blastphemy?
What does "pure healer" mean? I mean, even WHMs do dps :/
Barrier Healing mean like Disc Priests in wow?
They straight up called sch a barrier healer
Just show us this sexy PLD AF gear from trailer, omg
His dialogue isn't even hard though
I mean, yes, generally we assume that, but we should also assume that there is a vast healer rework coming
Idiot catboy sage using his aoe on a single target, god.
Like Scholar, they've always referred to them using that term.
big heals and regens
I think they mean no shields
Myy guess is September 21st 2021 for 6.0
Someone save the song list for scions and sinners
i enjoy putting tons of hots on my allies so i can make a coffee break while raiding
Watching Happy's stream and Ethys brought up Ishikawa saying after 5.3 that there will be a price to pay for what we did in ShB
NGL I have no idea what scholars do. I tank I see my HP go up instead of down. I happy
Pure Healer vs Barrier Healer
@viscid monolith @cobalt kiln That makes sense. Thanks 🙂
watch the announcement, they talked about having sage+sch for "barrier" healers and whm+ast as "pure" healers aka shield/regen
What I am meaning is that I wonder if a 'co-healer' so to speak would take on a role of doing more DPS than, say, a 'pure healer' - something we haven't seen in this game
Now I think someone is gonna bite the dust-
Not really--they mentioned AST is being transitioned into the 'pure healer' role, but that doesn't mean some rework where 'pure healer' and 'barrier healer' mean some different thing than it's meant for the past 8 years of the game
I'm just going to play Gun Healer
I suppose normally we say regen vs mitigation healer but this does put "pure" and "barrier" as the official lingo
When folks talk about "hybrids" I'm expecting a job that does less healing throughput than other healers but makes up for it by doing more damage than other healers, or (in the support concept) buffing the throughput of other party members to make up for reduced healing. THAT is the thing that ultimately doesn't work.
I watched it, but a lot of people are making VAST assumptions on what that will TRULY mean
look it's the principle of it more than the difficulty
Remember the last time they wanted to make healers pure healing and nothing changed at all
omg the music is so nice
Yeah, this doesn't work.
Honestly I can never hear Ruby Weapon and NOT hear https://youtu.be/70FQuvlH46Q
Gun Tank / Gun Dps / Gun Healer .... its complete now
dancer is hybrid healer, don't you know Curing Waltz is OP
big fat tacos
Never. Pure Healing has never meant anything about their DPS output.
Like, to the extent they're adding pure healer vs barrier healer on the PF
I call them "the exclusive ouchie healer and the ouchie preventer"
You're making some pretty big assumptions if you think healers are somehow gonna get totally revamped when we have 4 expansions worth of encounter design locking them into their current paradigm
oh i have one of those, the toob
all i want is a buff healer like astro but with different buffs. thanks
ast gonna get reworked again
aka whm OR ast/sch OR sge will be meta,
Healers will mash their dps button for 95%+ of their gcds just like they have since HW
old astro
They could make them more interesting than Glare/Broil/Malefic spam in their off time.
I'm generally aware; I don't think the gulf between the two will be so huge, however if barrier healers will focus more on PROactive healing, it could stand to reason that their DPS kit could be larger. And again, sure, this is total speculation, but I think that defining this meta is going to allow them to make some large change they've been wanting to make.
ideally, at least.
has the Live Letter ended?
Also, the 'last time' they mentioned 'pure healer', it meant giving White Mage Glare and Afflatus Misery
AST gets an obligatory bi annual rework
I'm just saying them rogues with their accented speak mixed with Thieves' Cant is waya worse
halftime
this guitar sounds splatoony
BIG FAT TACOS
ahhhhh, top of my voice~
Splatoon colab confirmed
HARRY POTTER!!!!!!!
fair. also literally any voiced pirates (like how half of 5.4 was just "we get it, you hate consonants")
I sort of wonder if the farm will be kind of an answer to NOT having instanced housing, y'know? I wonder what kind of customization we will have for those islands.
MCH has changed so much more from expansion to expansion.
BIG FAT TACOS
gosh I hope so with SCH, because we need the big fat damage as healer if we want to get compensated
It doesn't actually stand to reason that, because a barrier healer doesn't imply their spell output is magically larger in the long term.
I am so excited for the 8 man mount.

Barrier healers are shield healers so yes... they will put shields up before damage happens like they do now
anyone notice they specifically mentioned "Required Class?" for sage
Is the 8-man mount free or not?
i don't have 7 friends so rip me i guess
Hmm maybe the shield of different healer will overlap now ?
No it's a paid thing from what I understand
Their is no class
back
back to my motorcycle vroom vroom
if i dont even can fill my 2man mount how i suppose to fill a 8man mount
Hmm, with Estinien joining the Trusts, we'd actually have enough trust members to do eight man content if they can somehow either bring Ryne back or add another DPS or Tank to fill in for Healer!WoL.
God speaking of, the fucking PLD gear from the trailer looks so fucking good
foxclon looks different
We don't know that at all - that's what I'm saying. People are making all these assumptions with the thought that things will be the way they were. I'm not saying it will be that way at all; I'm just saying that I just don't think we have enough info to start too much detailed speculation.
Cal, I just,
No, they'll specifically call out the two healer archtypes in 8-man df/party finder so that you DON'T have two of the same type.
who’s that handsome devil
our girl looks SO GOOD.
GUYS SHUT UP THE SHADOWBRINGERS THEME IS ON AND YOU'RE RUINING MY JAM WrrrrrRRRRyYYYyyyyYYYYY
yeah thats what i mean, none of the expac classes require a required class. they went out of their way to mention it this time around
They won't make it so that the healers 'contribute differently' because that affects dungeon balance. Think about it
this japanese guy is so cute
well worth poking fun at the twins not getting outfit upgrades in 5.3
I also don't think you're totally wrong either; I think there still has to be some homog- yes, haha, I was just gonna say dungeon balance

this guys funny kek
They do that more as a formality. DNC and GNB had the same notes when they were first shown off. Associated class: none.
the question is, will they add another class for G'raha?
ShB basically felt like they were stripping out any identity the healers had to them.
I feel like G'raha could be character that get the new class XD
its convenient to have graha able to switch
Yeah, because if they don't explicitly mention obvious shit, and overexplain it, places like this jump to stupid conclusions.
she
yeah, hence why he gets to be four different class
give me more alphi pictures
Such as 'Yoshi P is leaving final fantasy cause it's Endwalker'
The best part of the cinematic is the first time we see alisaie in a cgi trailer she gets smacked around 
four?
We need to protect this place, for Ga Bu !
Alphinaud looks hella good in red, gotta admit
I guess that's my biggest thing for sure. I think that allowing for this type of role defining means we will get a lot of flavor back in ALL of our healers.
G'raha wants to be like us uwu
Graha is already an all rounder in trusts changing him wouldn't make sense
oof project managers got a lot of stuff on their plate
Also the IV reference is heavy in 6.0
Wouldn't it be funny if they add that one particular IV reference for the twins since IV had twins too :^)
turn them to fucking stone
lore-spoilers would complain their death was 'fake'
Damage in FFXIV is extremely spiky because the long GCD necessitates big potencies and the end result is that the only way to really threaten death vs a healer that's half awake is oneshot people missing mitigation
I hated how AST cards were reduced to two flavors of Balance.
the new job revealed look at it the project manager
Anima is a horrifying addition to be the trial they're willing to confirm first
PLD sword getting lightsaber shiny in the trailer is so dope
FFIV reference, can we talk about that Tower? 👀
So what do you think this guy is going to talk about?
managing a project in FFXIV teehee
I wonder if it might bring anything... 🤔
im assuming no 5.5 trailer tonight
monetarist new job
flesh parasite fun
Lol ast cards about to be turned into regens
get me more meat things
New job: Salaryman
but they said we see more from the new job on this letter, right?
No, not at all.
New Job: Hackerman

This man manages the development of the game
Babil
"You thought these were all Yoshi-P's duties, huh?"
That can't be easy
LOL
duties of an FFXIV project manager:
- having 8 limbs
lmaoooooooo

No, they said nothing of the sort
We're getting job info in May during fanfest. That's all they said.
EVERYTHING YOSHIP DOESNT WANT TO DO XD
heh

loooll
Don’t ask me for anything ever again
"Cross class glams"

Not until the next LL
"the only person other than Matsuda who can give Yoshida shit because we carry his ass."
Show me NIER GEAR
smug
Male Viera :^)
thats an xD from me buddy
MAKE THAT AN EMOTE
Kawaii 💙@full inlet
So did anyone else notice Zenos literally had a scythe resting against his throne in the trailer lol. Plus all the shirts. DPS job is Reaper.
Hang on let me try this out.
"Guys when will they release 1.0 Classic?"
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/151558839005741056/807508552632500254/unknown.png
nightmare
:yoshismug:
:yoshicocky:
I think we had that as an emote at some point?
He... he did? -rewatches trailer for the twelfth time-
I recall it existing
Project Manager: "Do this"
Yoshi-P:
allegedly
He looks like he has something resting to his side but it's obscured by the back of the throne
Any news about the pre-order yet?
Incorporate B L I T Z B A L L
'Can we have buttsliders?'
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/151558839005741056/807508552632500254/unknown.png
wait till may, digital fanfest reveals more about 6.0
that would have to be a pretty tiny blade if it's a scythe
I'd binge the hell out of Blackjack o3o
I can't 💔@untold gull
must be a short scythe if it doesnt poke over the right side
Oh wow. I -totally- missed that.
Zenos took up botany
so this guy is managing the lalafell removal 
What if it's upside down? Gottem
Tbh I want more beard options if we get a butt slider.
...why would Mahjong affect the age rating? :/
@worn bloom definitely
Gambling
gambling
it's actually just a really cool stick he found in the backyard and wanted to show us
Ara Ara... gambling is not good
By chance are we getting more infor for 5.5 during this half of the LL or nah?
It's the sort of question you shouldn't need to ask, but actually NEEDS to be asked in this environment
"My friend, my enemy, I found this cool stick that I want to show you."
Nope
@empty pine @teal geyser Oh... I guess that makes sense. But.... it's not for real money, so... :/
Kinda wish Zenos was just more like Majima 
When they bring out interviews, sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.
I just sorta wish Zenos would go away.
Zenos got a scythe
Still deserves a question
Zenos is a nuisance
Do I want to continue listening or should I go farm
Looks more like a throne piece and arm
"in patch 6.0 we've decided to introduce the 'Zenos Anywhere' system"
Ty. Me and a few buds are watching it together lol
Thing is, if it -might-, you have to ask.
Zenos is great
IT's definitely not part of the throne, bc else it breaks the thing's symmetry, and pretty jarringly, but it doesn't look to be a full fledged scythe or even folded
Gratuitous violence isn't real (looks at GTA V torture scene)
I thought that at first, but if you look at it closer, the throne is otherwise completely symmetrical.
It's worse if you assume it shouldn't, then in some locality, it does, and it affects who can buy it.
Imagine if you were to put owo speech bubbles when he spoke?
All the salt from people who want him gone is entertaining
deffo an odd thing, and very likely his new fancy weapon.
i cant wait bros.
Derplander-chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
Ran'jit Job
It would explain the insistence on making sure we dramatically KNOW he's getting a new weapon.
@teal geyser @maiden lodge Yeah I can see how the whole golden saucer area might not be liked by some conservative governments.
i like this powerpoint
Creepy@austere bear
what job is reaper gonna share gear with
Warrior-Chan!~
Maiming
they are doing a bloodborne crossover?
most likely maiming
ah yes, memeing
Did they confirm the writer for this expansion?
I would love another maiming class for sure, and it seems very likely.
new job is 'good hoontar' confirmed
I dunno, it's just that they've shown they can make interesting villains and Zenos just isn't interesting.
I reckon maiming
reaper share gear with the coolest job: dragoon
Zenos is 100% gonna be the new dps class. They already confirmed he's getting another wardrobe change
maiming is good choice yeah
i mean we already have bloodborne theme outfits right?
You know what I'd prefer, move SAM to maiming, and drop Reaper into Striking.
Parents will make complaints about "kids gambling".
THEY'RE FUCKING REMOVING BELTS
Good
a hoonter must hoont
Yes
scythes are kinda lame tbh
Yeah let’s not mess up the glams of everyone who plays Sam please
Of course, hitting kids is frowned upon in 2021
FINALLY, HAHAHAHAHAHAH, IT'S OVER, NO MORE OF THE FUCKING GEAR PIECES THAT DON'T SHOW UPT, THEY'RE GONE
Isn't Mahjong just complex dominoes?
Theey'd have to rework all the existing gear to accomodate it, so they'd be switchiing geartypes only from 80-90. Juice ain't worth the squeeze
It is...?@rough kestrel
they put them on the new KH dw
Scythes don't have to mean it means a job based around death.
scythes are cool i use em in stardew valley all the time to cut grass
True, and some countries such as Australia are extremely conservative about classifying games.
i will shank you saki
i might as well desynth any i have in my glam chest
Derplander is Square Enix's toy
Botanist DPS spec.
models don't mean anything when you can believe it
They will reap your life.
There are two mahjong games, one of them is that shitty domino game, the other is actual complex gambling
Hey DRK: meet your older brother from FFXI, Better DRK.
4.0: Players: 'Step on me, future moon lady!'
6.0: Moon: 'Step on me, future players!'
It doesn't parse, but dodges aoes long enough to use the bazooka 
My god ppl move fast.. @cosmic herald
scythes are more symbolic than they are usable as not grass cutters
Yeah a Chinese friend's mum taught me the latter. It's complex.
scythes seems like they would not be practical at all as weapons
scythe relic 
What about that aspect of XI DRK's that involved zerging stuff with K Clubs, with Souleater and Blood Weapon?
The part they nerfed to the ground because they didn't like it?
what if the scythe can transform
Into a gun 🤣
Lol, new skill: Kraken Club. Hit your enemy 8 times and restore HP each time.
But we have a gun already
Shinigami Job
kek
GNB 2 Reaper edition
Or has a blade at the other end that we didn't see.
I'm pretty self taught, I still dont get it fully, mainly with me going into furiten and not understanding how sometimes
I'm very curious what, like, the lore and story for Reaper could be-- esp if Zenos will utilize it, apparently? Like the vibes closely align with all this new Lunar gunk but, like....
Tbh, I would have preferred something closer to BST but it's doubtful.
I forget most of it now :p
W-WHO/WHERE IS THE MENTOR, MAN
same tbh
I wonder if the job trainer will be the Botanist
Bear in mind the lore for an NPC using a job doesn't generally equal the lore for how we do it
Red Mage is literally the only exception
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tACai60uzGQ finally we get a koli job
I'm still mad at all those Hrothgar in Bozjan Tanking sets being SAMURAI
Edda
"we call them small, but they're actually BIG CHONKERS"
they are not announcing anything new right? i can go to bed
Their not?
This. It's usually 'here's how the job fits into the STORY' and 'here's why everyone can use the job now.'
No of course, 'm sayin' the only known aesthetics matching this is moon stuff but, like, yeah.
I will always miss the card buffs even if we tended to favor certain ones.
yea they just talk about development
mod emoji confirmed? :^)
Which makes me wonder if, since we're already near there, we're gonna see some Old Sharlayan in 5.5x which gives us some insight on Sage, instead of seeing it in the xpac.
huh, or I guess it could come out of Mhachi martial fighters too
No
understandable, have a nice day
They'd never show Sharlayan like that until we go there
I don't think there has been a single new job that technically fit the aesthetic of the expansion they were released in.
Oh oh oh, don't get it twisted, I don't think we're getting, like... a zone or anything.
Samurai
The Lunar vibes so far is giger, nearing body-horror, and spiral spooky shit, from the towers, to Bahamut, to the whale
Stormblood jobs
Yeah samurai was quite fitting
That didn't age so well.
Also that 2nd dungeon concept with spines as the paths between platforms
Do you think Reaper will be a fast or slow style dps?
Depends on what he does
I hope it's fast
Doubt it's reaper or anything like rhat
I'm imagining a SAM style kit
I would assume that if it is reaper, it would be slow
Samurai.
I think more of a slow type, I think scythe is quite heavy
I prefer slower like DRG
Hmm... DRK MCH & AST were fitting with HW Theme
Also, what's speculation on the Big Hub City they didn't want to reveal quite yet?
reaper... 
apllo space man confirmed
all melee but DRG have fast GCDs
I'm just excited to see if they'll take it in another direction for melee DPS. I'd like to see something a little different, maybe less combo or positional dependent. Not saying that this will happen, just would like to see it.
Scythe's aren't heavy
apollo spaceman new job confirmed
I think it's going to be necromancer, especially since we fought a necromancer boss in 5.3.