#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
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1 AM EST
if by 'spira' you mean 'not spira'
What will the next stream be about?
I wanna go back to Zanarkand
14 takes some from 12 because they both use the zodiac age system
@untold gull We learn that WoL Is actually a Lunarian. And that Zenos is our brother.
5.5
2 button dps rotation hype am I right guys
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Sage just seems like a cooler Scholar
Ascians were destroyed because Jecht was kicking Meteors as blitzballs from the moon.
Huh?? Today ?? @deep sparrow
LAHABREA HAS DIED 3 TIMES AND HE'S STILL KICKING
But will we trek up the Mountain of Ordeals in Thavnaria?
is the sage class completely original or has it been in other ff games? what would it its possible kit be

and then plds can just swap to drk/pld mid fight Pog
I FUCKING CALLED IT. LAHABREA IS ALIVE
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Yes, in just over 2 hours
where's my hat, yoship?
🎩
how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man
@untold hornet hehe 😄
Other games had it
Do i nap for 40 mins and risk falling asleep to deeply to wake up
Tower of Babil in Garlemald
excuse you, we need the Four Fiends
WoL changed class to Paladin cause he can't do good dps, so he has to rely on alisaie
blitzball in gold saucer
They were pretty clear this iteration of Sage is a FF original
Hmm wonder what we would get for the next Ultimate Raid? Omega?
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Pld expac
Noo..... your joking 😍 @deep sparrow
@hushed aspen https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/e456049d777214d86c0892b74a09c1270e35b85c
@strange wing don't really know it's alive or not since Pandemonium is a place of death iirc
i don't think he's alive but i think it'll be about an old laboratory of his or something
There's more tham Characters, many bosses and basically all 3 Ivallice Raids are FFXII zones. Also the entired FFXIV as many FFXII references like for example all Ascian names and sigils are from FFXII itself
Isnt the four fiends already in 14 tho? I mean some of them
lahabead*
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I’m so glad I got the elemental tank gear for this
After all the balance shit pld went through he deserves it
@vivid notch We get to fight rubicant, because there's no belts and he wears no pants!
not that I know of
Even Yoshi-P tries to say the word “Lahabread”
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Well yes but the Sage job in general isn't new
New healer looks cool
4 Fiends could be the new trial
nasa employee: oh hey u guys are back early
astronaut: moon's haunted
nasa employee: what?
astronaut: loading a pistol and getting back on the rocket-ship moon's haunted
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OMGGG 💙❤💙❤💙 will they share more news? And stuff and you know?
maybe...wait i have an idea
Proto-Phoenix showed Ancient souls could possess their creations
so maybe that's what Lahabrea did? his soul turns out to have possessed an old creation of his in his abandoned laboratory Pandaemonium
Who needs male Viera when you have giant elephant people
lmao right? can't wait to play Irelia
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some people were saying that Emet's va was the one narrating int he new trailer not Fandaniel but i dunno i keep trying to listen ot it and its hard to tell
Jester was ducking broken in ffta. The smile grind
rest in peace, sweet prince
No one used Nocturnal anyhow
in all seriousness, imagine if Venat and Elidibus are brothers
LMAO
its both. Emet first then fanny
it's definitely Fandaniel's voice
Can someone summarize the healer changes? I know it involved AST loosing shields
Ohhh
It's a live letter, so most likely
?
Sage is a recurring job which sometimes heals, sometimes doesn't, sometimes is just 'big dick caster.'
In this, we know it's a shield healer, as opposed to a raw healer.
And Nocturnal Sect is delete, because a) they wanted to make the dichotomy clear, and b) ya'll fuckers hated it anyways
This is Sage?
yes
Better nerf irelia
Alphinaud
elsword crossover when?!
When STormblood was revealed. Was Monk First and then Samurai?
Not elsword
djdjdjf
why remind me of that garbage
Soooo what's with the shirts?
AST is losing Noct, New healer Sage is the new Shield healer
In the trailer? Yes.
also i need a ff16 event tbh
So tinfoil hat time
NOCT Ast it's useless anyway, so i don't mind, i actually was waiting for this day Where Noct would be removed from the game
so like SCH but with less heals?
watch 6.1 just lead into XVI
Where do you read 'with less heals' in there?
So maybe itll happen again and PLD poster dorks get outfucking played by cool new job
Friendship ended with Genshin Impact, now Endwalker is my new friend
I already loved Radz-at-Han just from the lore but holy shit I'm glad to see I'm not disappointed, it looks so cool!
Alisae is gonna change to the new job after getting clapped by that voidsent
no, Sage is a pew pew healer
new character tho, nvm
Are you guys ok with the DAMAGE CHANGES
so its just like SCH?
What damage changes 👀
def
Heck no fire 4 from 50k to 10k rip
Yoshi and the others are going crunch down the numbers
Alisaie better change into that new melee dps. Girl be bitchin about new class since 5.3
I left Elsword behind years ago
SCH has heals for days
Its just a stat squish
I dont mind it, it just denomination. Everything still thecsame
I can't wait to harvest my lalafells from my lalafell farm.
i also noticed in the trailer alisaie casted Scorch as if it had a cast timer, i am dissapointed in you alisaie.
Oh god, sage really us Gunboker for healers
Also I'm guessing there's going to be more to the trailer? It's nice to see twins and Zenos in glorious smooth graphics but I'm not really as impressed as previous ones D=
Assassin job might be back on the table tbh
I mean, nothing about it reads 'more or less' but it has some self-empowerment ability, so my guess is this is like 'Dark Arts for healers?'
The entire world gets nerfed.
Instead of doing 50k with Fire 4 you do 10k now
Anybody got the concept art for the cities?
I want it to stay in the trash bin where it belongs
What about 2 button healer dps
i dont understand tbh but i guess we're gonna see
No, that's normal--the actual animation has that delay to it
It doesn’t mean players won’t get weaker. I think what he literally meant is just lowering the numbers down equally overall
Shouldn’t there be like an official website or something
Oof content gets harder then? Or is it squashed with the rest
If you notice that voidsent is the same color as that terminus dragon in amaurot
Garlemald looks sad
My head aches from all the amazing things that showed... I need to calm down... I can't wait 😭
i don't think anyone here actually understands how the number squishing works lmao
ah hm Haps pointed out
you can see something to Zenos' side in the trailer
looks like a Scythe
there will be at the official reveals in may probably
Probably don’t want like 10 or more digits of damage pop up numbers + bugs or some shite
Garlemald looks MALDING
Emet with that narration hit me with feels
Its just the numbers, nothing changes
yeah, but usually, even when you get hit, it would still be casted completely.
Garlemald looking real polluted
WAIT WHAT EMET NARRATED THE TRAILER?!
it's just an overall reduced scaling. just a more literal number change than 'we're making it harder for everyone' kind of change
Ty
Goodbye 100k dmg numbers
@teal geyser kael is a boomer
yeah that's emet talking
Okay so there are only 3 interesting things to take from that trailer
A) triangle ship
B) the I guess towers and the Garlemald tower look weirdly organic like some weird ass mindflayer ship
C) whatever this is
it's a trailer don't read too much into it.
i think it's Fandaniel narrating
they didnt remove the clouds lol
They said unsynching old content might be harder now
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Bye 100k bootshine
dammit why did i NOT recognize his voice?!
sounds like emet talking about amarot
It means Alisaie dont know how to play rdm.
Its Emet AND Fandaniel
What is the thing in front of the moon on the logo that looks like a huge tablet?
Oh ok so just less big boi numbers or I guess big boi numbers are redefined 
i mean i dont mind the dmg readjustment as long the percentage stays roughly the same
old news
OKAY, CALLING IT NOW, THAT TOWER IN GARLEMALD IS LIKE TOWER OF BABIL FROM FF4
its the elevator to the moon
garlemald got deleted off-screen
Maybe I'm emet
Doesn't our look on the moon is kinda ancient ?
ngl Im pretty smug about calling Thavnair
Dunno what numbers be like, probably nearly identical to classic FF like: 99999 dmg cap
THAT MEANS; alisaie changes class.
Bye 450k lost focus + crit lost slash :(
Is the thing in the logo.... whatever has Zodiark sealed? LIke a huge ship of some kind?
what was the reason again for the readjustment
looks like Zenos is holding a scythe
alisaie was confirmed to stay RDM already
no, she's staying rdm, that was literally said
or maybe thats part of his chair?
Not sure what it is, could be an airship they'll be using to reach the moon?
New emote
Leggo
for now
I'm just saying Cal, he's shown as a cloaked figure infront of a giant sun-like ball.
Garlemald new tower looks straight out of devil may cry
Eww .. @inner halo
I bet that there's something on the dark side of the moon
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:zenosyes: or :zenossmile:
It's a Jenova parasite
thats where male viera live
actually yeah it is Emet narrating isn't it
i thought it was Fandaniel at first
yes it is
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that's where the destiny 2 guys live
Doesn't sound like emet
What if it's Zeromus on the moon
Bring me wolfman race
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isnt that the race in sb or
It sounds like Emet more than anyone else
It's 100% Emet's speech patterns, he just dropped the facade
New race: lalafell but as tall as hrothgars
the Lupin, yeah
We get to the dark side of the moon and all we find is ffxiv 1.0 classic server access

But Emet is dead... so how? And why?
If you want a nice clear comparison for PS5 vs PC UI, I got the most obvious one, both captured at 4k so direct comparison
Final Fantasy 14: Shadowkee- wait we already used Shadow in our title before
because it's cool narration that's why
also would make sense for emet to be the one talking about amarot
god paladin warrior of light on the moon is so fucking cool
ps4 had the bottom one
bury it, seal it, dont let anyone lay eyes on it
that shot is so unff
i might actually lvl up PLD cuz of that...
Never expected for them to add sage lmao
I mean did you listen to emet during amaurot dungeon? He's a great voice for narration
pew pew sage
I still hate that job is called Sage
Ar Ara... is that really it? @teal geyser
CEO: PS5 Version Beta
Yoshi-P: 
I never expected sage to be straight outta gundam
Not the same sage we know
what do you have against sage
I am digging that it's a new new thing, even if it uses an old name.
I love this
Sage is now Healer MCH
I've been saying for ages that we need more original stuff.
Sage was a buffed red mage in previous games, what the heck
ffiv expac 2
FFXIV managed to add a healer that actually looks cool
Sage looks so.... Cool and unique 💙
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Tbh I expected sage to be another caster dps but, i'm glad it's healing
Yes
Alphinaud is a buffed alisaie confirmed
Stylish Sage too
I just wish it wasn't called sage and left sage more...conventional
Did they say how the Fan Fest mount and minions were going to be distributed?
wonder how glows will work on sage
official request to add this to the !faq list like, stat
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Healing hasn't had a new class since Heavensward
PLD main here to POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG
So here's a thing
Pandaemonium is the name of the Emperor's citadel after he becomes the new ruler of Hell in 2
the Emperor's name is Mateus
Mateus is Lahabrea's counterpart
Yep, the numbers in general are changing
Can we get Alisaie in her new RDM outfit in future Disidia/crossover games?
Wonder what will the melee Job will be...?
which makes sense because instead of 1 magic stick, sage gets 4
I can't stop watching the trailer PLD posterboy is 
oh wait they are doing a number crunch? nooooooooooooooooo
delete rdm
best guess now is templar/mysthic knight/rune knight
Tfw you notice the new PLD armour has 2 belts
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I also love the values descaling thing
Pandemonium is a thing as well in ff9, there are other pandemoniums in ff as well
so EW isn't the final expansion? they made it seem they want to support this game for another 10 years
Someone need to made a compilation pic from arr to endwalker
people in fflogs gonna cry cause they think they are doing worse cause their numbers are lower
The cecil harvey experience
Omg they all sound fantastic @balmy mauve
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exactly, we gon' be cecil for this expac
Yeah but 2 started it, and Lahabrea would have a connection in regards to dying and maybe coming back somehow?
No
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So endwalker in short will be EW?
ew is the end of the hydalyn/zodiark saga, there's still other business
hey cal did you get bingo
can we not shorten this expansion to "EW"
It's the end of this certain saga or whatever
No it wasn't.
Sage in FF3 wasn't a RDM at all.
Tellah wasn't a RDM, he was capped by MP but not by spells available, unlike a RDM
FFTA wasn't RDM, they cast bigger spells, not 'all the spells'
"Somehow, Lahabrea's returned."
why the hell not?
It's the final story for zodiark/hyadlyn thingies
There will be a completly new storyline with 6.1
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petition to call 6.0 ED
Yes, EW let's go
End
I mean, it can cast every spell in the game
Hey y'all... Does the 6.0 trailer narrator sound a lot like a certain Unsundered?
Magic>RDM>SCH>SAGE
So alphinaud is the new healer and zenos is gonna be the new melee dps 
FF3 Sage is similar to RDM in terms of having access to both Black and White Magic, but doesn't have RDM's melee aspects
Wait
And RDM never does.
Stat squishes aren't about FFLogs because you're comparing to each other anyway, but it affects leveling (you'll go 30 levels and get like 1/4 the stat increase you get now from 50-80) and older content balance
pretty sure it's supposed to sound like that considering it's on the end of days
ARR HW SB SHB ED 
when you pull without tank stance on
RDM has limits on the levels it can cast too, people forget this.
So, our current Trust + Estinien means we have a full 8man team now?
6.0 removes tank stance and just gives it innately Kappa
also what's the deal with the Giger Elevator? was that garlemald?
I wonder if Lahabrea returns to the pandemonium whether the others acians might return as well? 🤔
If you’re hoping for Lyse, you’ll get an tall sexy elf instead
I was getting to that, Sage is able to go all the way in those methods of magic in exchange for not having melee
Will trust add gaius?
ARR
HW
SB
ShB
END
That train was interesting too
i wouldn't be surprised if we did get trusts for trials/8m raids
ARR
HW
SB
SHB
EW
Will we get another eden levels of trolling in pandemonium?
did they give a good enough hint for the second class?
EW
That said, leveling balance is out of whack in other ways right now when people get to 61 and can get oneshot by the first boss in sirensong sea if they're still wearing end of HW gear, so 
Ewww
i dont wanna call it ew 
It's gonna be shortened to EW
Yeah, that's a big difference. Then with FF5, with Dualcast/Chainspell being added to their kit, RDM became about casting moar small spells rather than 'cast all the spells'
EW
EW
I like END
ew stinky
Endless waltz
well, maybe. Only the change to the shirt if it means anything. Other than that no, just Melee DPS
END sounds nice
ed already means ending
EW
END is silly since it completely leaves out Walker, besides it's not even the final xpac
can't wait to get my FC together to prog P1S
Tbh there's not much of a point in thinking about old Sage and being applied to XIV Sage. They're already wildly different
So... only one job this time?
Oh god healers.
did anyone see sage!!!
they confirmed melee dps
Nah, two
like the eva ed fly me to the moon, its perfect
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The other class is going to be shown on fanfes
Oh Anima....
Astros are gonna be mad again, aren't they?
they literally confirmed two new jobs for 6.0
but EW sounds like we're making fun of the expansion 😦
Please, thief
New healer looks so sick
what's sage name gonna be shortened to?
Wow anima will be in this expansion! That was my favorite summon
RIP to any chat that talks about healers for the next 6 months
SAG?
either SAG or SGE, there are only two options really
GEOMANCER
SGE
I mean, this as well. Sage, as a job, historically, has not had a consistant identity so they are actually free to just... do what they like
For the love of god i hope thief is the other job
Maybe to you
But.. like what are those things? The sage weapon
SGE
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WoL theme job for each expansion
ARR: war (tank)
HW: drg (melee dps)
SB: sam/mnk (melee dps)
ShB: drk (tank)
EW: pld (tank)
SE really hates ranged job and healer arent they?
we really need a new mage..
SHIELD SWIPE RETURN PLEASE AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
can't believe they're adding Ruby and Penny to XIV
The idea that the story might be ending is killing me lol.
Tbf 1.0 had ARC
Nuoliths, is what they're called, it's FF14 made up thing like Astroglobes
I'm just hoping healing is fun again
derplander was a archer in 1.0
Techincally Arxher was 1.0
at least Derplander used a bow in 1.0, think about the casters
Uh Derplander was an Archer first tyvm
WoL being a healer wouldn't fit the hero narrative
I guess so. As a WHM main I'm not happy to be hearing the phrase 'pure healer' again.
Derplander will never be a healer
Flying Sword Job and Scythe Job incoming
PRAY FOR SHIELD SWIPE RETURN
Well he started as an archer on the middle scene of SHB LMAO
WHERE'S MY 4TH CASTER SE (NOT YOU BLU)
Gundam in FFXIV confirmed
it's likely hard to justify sharing a role with the twins in the trailer
YESSS!!!
But yea casters and healers haven't been used oddly enough. Guess they aren't heroic enough
It literally just means you do big green numbers instead of lesser green numbers and shields
Paladin gets Sword Stance Back, and a Third Stance for Damage. So that all us paladin mains can forget which one we're in. 😄
Man we really got 5 melee dps
i hope the expansion after gives us a caster
Getting 5 melee and not another caster is the funniest shit
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I want to see it so damn bad
It looked like they meant "Pure healer" vs "Barrier Healer" not "No DPS only heals"
Yeah but every time they use that phrase I lose a dot.
they probably counted BLU
Zenos is gonna be the new melee and theyre gonna show it off in may
PLEASE I HOPE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THE OTHER JOB IS THIEF
@maiden lodge oh I'm not familiar with this weapon but it looks so very cool, I read the name from the stream too
6.0 mnks have no more gcds
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can we just let the lunar whale crush zenos and be done with him
It's not that they're not heroic enough, it's more like Derplander is more of that rugged warrior type
it's not gonna be thief
Hell yeah!
Want the new melee job share gear with monk/sam kek
pure healer seems to more mean regen, not "do no damage" for certain
makes sense wol pld now for the final fight of the season. Its like Superman/Captain America. They might not be the coolest, but gotta be there for the last strike for the message
I'm kinda scared about the different queue times for pure and shield healers
alternatively, it'll be a Hammer Job so the trailer at least literally involves an Executioner's Hammer of Darkness being brought to bear against a Paladin's Shield of Light
And for every dot you lose, scholar loses two. Maybe 'barrier healer' is the real fear.
They even said raid finder is going to pick one "pure" and one "shield" for comps. It's like healing is split into two healing "classes" (not jobs)
inb4 new melee job is Keyblade wielder
people are guessing geomancer or templar something like that
They usually share most of the time irc?
It won't be geomancer lmao
i'm not sure it's different queue times as much as you can put in pf a specification for shield vs regen
Huh? Queue times wont change because they're all healers?
Templar is the most likely bet, given past references
It's probably mystic knight
I just find it funny how everyone always cries for a job, they add the job, they gotta rework everything to make the job fit and people still cry, lmfao people are such karens I swear.
Necromancer.. that shirt and the death reaper.. hmm
Samurai 2
Zenos splits into his Heartless and Nobody so we have to fight two of him
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I'm going for death knight
Tru
What would be the difference between Templar and paladin?
Its templar guy based on yoshi p shirt if you google his shirt it show up as temple
Healer playerbase split between 2 healers
Drg and nin still dont share their gear. And only melee dps have 3 different type of gear
I only HAVE one dot left. I want two more.
Did they mention anything about what's going to be done with the existing classes other than astro?
they said in stream it won't be death knight
Raidfinders will now search for one pure and one shield healer.
Little question: On Reddit is a picture which says we can switch between Data Centers
I fully welcome sage time
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that happened yes
it's melee, necromancer isn't going to really work so, more likely it's templar or mystic knight considering the actual context of the shirt
My guess is either Reaper with a Scythe, Templar with a Hammer, or Executioner with either
estineins haircut looks so good
My power went out so I missed most of the stream and don't really want to watch the whole thing now x_x
How would sage work?
I WANT THAT HAIRSTYLE
if the expansion is on fall 2021, will we still get updates like mini updates or nah?
Necro sycthe
That hairstyles is.. weird..
FF boomers gtfo
and the title of a movie directed by Julien Temple.
Estinien with the Cyr hairstyle
Estinien best waifu
LL is in 1 hour 30 right
That looks like his HW style doesn't it? Before he let it down.
sages will heal by impaling their allies
They explained how Sage works, it's like Scholar with a focus on overshielding and mitigating damage
we still got like, 2 patches to go, 5.5 and 5.55
did the full trailer come at next fanfest?
So are we just not talking about the music in the Sage trailer?
Which means..? @maiden lodge
depends if there's only one fanfest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMFyeO56uyY&feature=youtu.be - yes this is link to producer live
HEY! "YOU MAY NOT SEE HIM YOUR FRIEND. BUT HE SEES YOU AS HIS FRIEND."
Noct sect is dead now pog
Templar?
patches are like 3 months right?
Found the leaked final trial to endwalker
The music is gonna get better ah yeah
sure sure
Watch as pfs lose astro players bit b bit
typically yeah but covid fucked things up
New Melee class: Death Knight. You have to destroy an entire city to unlock it.
2 Pure Healers & 2 Barrier Healers, it's a great balance imo
2 months and 1 week
Mr SE leaked it : 13 april
There is only one fanfest and that will be the virtual one in May
So yeah this wasn't the final trailer, I wonder what they are hiding from us
Alisaie BIKER JAKET
Which means if you want to play 'Yoshi P' t-shirt game, you need to not see Spiderman and see 'It's BLue Mage cause Spiderman is blue' and go 'It's Samurai because Sam Raimi anagram'
oof
The Twins Scene takes place near the floating city of nym tower right?
It's okay Sage is better by far
we could actually have y'know, one dps that shares gear with drg
RIP
so patch 5.55 will be maybe 1 month before endwalker releases? am i right?
Zenos getting off his throne with whatever his new weapon is
D= Chemist would have been a really cool healer.
Necromancer would have been better.
The aesthetic is pogggg
Yes
Sage is cooler.
I'm not angry about not chemist, actually. If anything, this is so much better than what I was thinking
Party finder yea. I assumed you meant duty finder and got confused
Yea ppl are probably gonna do sage OR sch only but i dont think ast/whm together would be bad at all
who's going to be the bosses for P4, P8, and P12?
It's like looking for bronze an dhitting gold
@maiden lodge I'm lost here... ohh only time will tell 😚
That's 4 months between 5.4 and 5.5
P12 Emperor mateus, probably
My man 5.55 will be around June, there's still July, August and September between then and Fall 2021

Any new race announced?
I guess Nym tower will be the 5.5 dungeon and stuff after all, not the Ala Mhigan one
P4: mateus
5.55 is april NEVERMING thats not 5.5
to those that kept crying for a 4th healer and are whinning about the changes
Do you think we will get a graphical update? Because some textures are still VERY well... low pixelated? xD
Nope
inb4 p12 is zodiark
If the Melee job IS Necromancer, I would like to have a skeletal pet
So wait.... we make peace with the Kobolds and other beast men, only for the world to end.
i really would hope they not have to make another unique set for the new dps
My guess is Emperor Mateus equivalent for P12, but it'll be Lahabrea's broken soul having possessed one of his old Creations
don't think there will be a new race until after this arc ends
yoshi-p: FUCK NO WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU
Or male viera
8-man mount being a literal whale is so good
Damn right
P8: kuja/necron?
But i hate when you lose the flexibility in healer slot. AST was very flexible so any combination of current healer can works
But after EW, WHM and AST means no shield meanshile sage and whm means low HoT uptime
But i don't think we'll get mateus after what they do with eden
Basically, Yoshi P's t-shirt references can go very deep and cryptic. If he's wearing a punk-rock t-shirt, you shouldn't fixate on the one little skull dude.
Yep
I thougjt that said 5.5 not 5.55, ignore me
They said there would be no new races
we might get the other gender proper
kinda wish WoL kept growing out the beard but he just had to shave
I'm guessing that the DPS will share gear with Dragoon
Correct
not playable afaik
What's your supposition on the next Melee ?
That could be cool
yeah and AST complained Noct Sect sucked (which it does, tbh), so that kinda didn't work. Again 'feels' and 'is' are not the same word.
yeah, which is why I'd lean towards templar for sure since it's heavy as well
5.55 will be my first ever x.55 patch so idk about it sorry ahwhw
Next job, here we go
@frank raptor think of it as a new challange or change 💙 you'll be fine
He also said he wasn't ever adding a 4th tank sooooo don't go off when he says they "never" adding anything js
death knight! and friend goes for morpher
When did they say that?
So he didn’t say anything about that “Poster-boy’s” beard for avatar’s facial feature?
wait a second....
People holding out hope for male viera and fem hrothgar are gonna be disappointed greatly
the problem with a scythe job is that scythes are already tied up with botanist, so look deeper with your weapon ideas
World of Warcraft: EndRiders
He never said that but shine on
7.0 is when we shave as if we were ready to start a new adventure
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My guesses for new Melee:
Reaper with Scythe
Templar with Hammer
Executioner with eitherNo matter what happens, Zenos will represent it
no clue but I'm mad we never got that beard for midlander
sage as a class...... sage..... sage.... Tellah the Sage.... M-M-Meteo?
@maiden lodge oh like a hidden meaning and not the whole picture thing.. right?
@opaque vigil Loooong while back, they said Viera and Hroth were a huge work load. So not to expect any new races for long while 😛
That new event giving headgear that Viera and Hrothgar cant use 
at bare minimum, I would hope they remedy the hat situation and hair situation for viera/hrothgar
Specially when he already said no more races
belts are kind of useless
D= Don't say that, it's mean.
he did ages ago, too lazy to relook up it so do you homie
Belts has no glam features thou
That No Comment shirt was kind of dope though. I'd wear that lol.
Yeah, except also 'look at the whole picture'. It's a punk rock t-shirt.
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Am I the only one thinking about Berserker ?
So did they say if data center travel is coming in 6.0 or 5.5
these memes are so good
@maiden lodge ahhh your confusing me more 😭
exactly so im happy with their removal
this trailer song is gonna be a fuckin' BANGER
WHAT NOBODY TOLD ME ANIMA WAS GOING TO BE IN THE GAME
Also, I’m surprised Yoshi-san can speak...
ENGRISH
I've seen the "Templar" theory since the phrase was popularized by documentary maker Julien Temple
dis meme is my favorite so far
For belts? They aren't.
They're sticking extra inventory space on rings and weapons instead.
a lot of berserker's business is wrapped into war
the music was banging
Nothing. they will just spread the stats on other accessories
hammer job not coming if we literally have the dwarven hammer, what we gonna dual wield hammers? thats dumb? hammer and sword? sounds like a paladin sword skin.
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if it makes you even more hyped, the dude who designed it in ffx also designed this one for ffxiv
Is it true that parties will have to have one regen + one shield healers in 6.0? so no whm + new ast for example?
Rewatching the teaser trailer and that's Emet narrating the end. Couldn't hear clearly while I was in a discord call watching it haha
anyone got link to the slides ?
Oh yeah Anima
so is that a space ship on the EW logo?
I imagine it'd be like wielding a giant war hammer
yeah, the documentary the shirt references--about punk rock, from a series of shirts... about punk rock.
Which is why Templar is a logical guess.
We dont know
Yoshi's shirts at the fanfest always hints at something. Usually its one of the new jobs. We can only speculate what job he's teasing until he tells us in May
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@potent marsh thats what I said but my fc was all freaking
sounded like it
you know what i'm wondering?
I wonder what Sage's Limit Break 3 will be.
Those minions are cute too I want them, the mount too 💙
This is just speculation since we know no shield is kinda hard to do on some ex/savage
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belt slots will go to rings and mains
Pulse of life
It would be nice if the belt slot were used for glasses or another accessory someday.
@hushed aspen 8 person mount woo
@severe brook big traingle shield that raise people
Sooooo did we translate the German and Japanese trailers yet?
probably all the Nouliths flying around and bathing the battlefield in healing lasers
already confirmed
Magic School Whale 🐋
Use those 5 slots for that XD
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Well you never have enough WAR
I will definitely pre-order or do what is required
8 player mount now I just need 7 friends
Haven't seen anything yet
The moon thing is so romantic
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Is the announcement available to be rewatched on YouTube?
it's likely not forced, if anything I imagine it's like the same button you can hit on pf asking for one of each role that's different
it is on twitch
Also, best tribes
@severe brook I wonder what Paladin's Limit Break 4 will be.
I will fucking love if Island Sanctuary is personal housing. I like what they said so far but personal housing would make it perfection
Is this pandemonium?
WoL is so OP his hair and cape flutter in the wind... on the moon
Nobody said it yet but does this mean carbuncle is no more now aphi is sage
No
@plucky palm dungeon
yes carbuncle is ded
It never made sense for the ring slots to be the same amount as everything else due to the fact that is 2 rings, we can throw technicalities as to why it should but doesn't mean it makes any less sense, so least they fixing that.
They said that'd be a dungeon so I presume not
the purple area might be the inside of that tower but it's called out as a dungeon
estinien for trust
Oh... it looked like pandemonium
Dungeon, I'm assuming the level 90 or 89
Maybe his carbuncle ascend into his weapon?
that might be the 89 dungeon
i wonder who these wacky characters are
it's one of the dungeons they said
Jenova and Peperoth
i feel like 89 would at least take place on the moon
The new area looks so Beautiful, Thavinir 💙
also
yea and I think the temple-esque dungeon will be 81
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Booba
terminus beasts?
also calling firrst person here to actually namedrop Templar/temple knight
garlean empire !!!!!!
But whose excited for More Zenos
also, the theme of that looks liek the tower

a lot of people is gonna spend time is island sanctuary lol
So I just watched the German trailer. And besides, once again feeling like I should sue SE for assault because of that HORRIBLE Alisaie voice actress they chose, there is nothing relevant in it.
6.1 is housing ;3 woo woo woo
Im more excited for destroyed Garlemald 
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Better get your SSD PS5 ready
shrink it idk
So about Zenos drilling into the moon to get to Zodiark
get rid of soul crystals and shift down the shield slot?
btw YoshiP’s shirt comes from a Japanese fashion line
@frank raptor PC master race
I'll get in
Oh yeah speaking of alsaie.... her outfit was from someone special ?
And also the story ending in 6.0 and not continuing into the 6.X patches
i got a house in 5.3
i'll get a house in 6.1
@drowsy belfry how did you like the music so far and think the sage trailer music is the combat theme for the overworld
u wont
Ryne? 
15 more slots for rings and arms at the cost of belts
it is the end of this arc
That might mean 6.0 is gonna be quite long
Derplander is wearing an Ascian Robe at the beginning of the trailer
Thats ok i called it even 
remember that song for the moon that got "leaked" a few weeks ago? the chord progression in that song shares similarities with the intro of the trailer song
FF2 might suck, but it has its charm. I'm happy to see a raid dedicated to it
No way.. you think ?@frank raptor
Wait the 6.0won’t continue in 6.1??
All I need is the full theme that played in the 6.0 trailer and I'll be content
this expansions seems like the biggest one
but 6.1 will satrt anew
I have the trailer on loop.
@cursive shard getting into Q is easy
Dude I didn't need this teaser theme going so fucking hard. Because now we're dealing with another few months of not having a non trailer version of the main theme
Nope
help the song is so good and it's stuck in my head and I've watched the trailer 7 tikes already
replaying trailer so I can keep hearing Emet 😦
How do you like the OST tho 
you know what square, you take those 5 missing slots and give us another plate and we'll call it even.
dumb question but does it count as self promotion to share a dumb 6.0 meme I made on twitter
no
Its about the Raid-Finder not the PF tho, "This will extent to the raid-finder, to make a distinction between barrier and pure-healers"
Alisae is totally becoming Maka from Soul Eater. They're going to embrace the acrobatic anime girl with a Scythe archtype
btw, anyone notice blm had black cat in the art?
radz-at-han is in thavnair?
YES
i don't have enough plates for my jobs with these expansion. give us like 5 more please.
Yes
if it's 2 regen, 2 shield then there wouldn't be a difference in queue time
WoD derplander > WoL Paladin
5? give us at least 10!
I'm sad because we will leave shadowbringers 😦
Endwalker msq will end in 6.0 and 6.1 onwards will build towards 7.0
also dont be fooled. YoshiP's shirt had a skeleton on it but his shirt hints always go in really weird directions, it was however a sex-pistols shirt
Interesting change
Decided to add some fitting music to the #FFXIV Endwalker trailer
We goin' to the moon, bois https://t.co/cgbuJuK2kg
We already did with 5.3
i wonder where they will take us in 7.0 so hype lol
If everybody is going to play shield healer, I think it's gonna be a little hard after release. It's already hard to find a healer
Mfw next Melee is fighting like ETC from HOTS 
I can’t wait for all the people screaming NECROMANCER CONFIRMED get btfo just like the people who thought spiderman was an upcoming job in stormblood due to the Sam Raimi spiderman shirt
I think the job is literally anything except necro
@open verge but we are ignoring the other language tho no?
That's why I'm looping it.
Lmao
ffxiv is gonna be one of the longest running GAAS games lol
This is exactly my preferred style of music.
I figured we'd have killed Fandaniel in 6.3 as the MSQ trial but this kinda implies my man's Fandaniel isn't surviving base 6.0
they straight up won't? a lot of people check on the queue and play it for a bit then tend to stay or go
@shell merlin Templar is a kind of mystic knight isnt it
Soken god
Are they gonna rewrite AST's job quests. Cause uh.
Yup the shirt hints are alwasy cryptic as fuck
Oh yeah he's not
it’s way behind other MMOs Kaladin, like Everquest and Ultima Online still get regular updates and expansions
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Anyone have a history of Yoshi-P shirts?
good
unfortunately, no even nin's quests are weird since we lost the venoms
the real hint is that its a sex-pistols shirt
Fandaniel probably getting yeeted early in 6.0
Wracking my brain on what the Melee DPS could be
I predict Zenos isn't even gonna die though 
usually thats 6.3 that ends stuff, 6.3 might be wrapping up the terminus beast still about after we deal with zodiark. im expecting 7.0 to deal with extraterrestrial threats considering things like high seraph ultima was able to make it here and be a huge threat.
fandaniel is not getting yeeted early lol
I knew that'd be the song lmao
AST has changed so much that the job quests barely make sense
i really do think 7.0 might have a jenova ff7 theme.
he has a larger plan than whatever he says he wants
they said it in live letter
but what could it mean for a melee dps 
GUNMAGE IS A MELEE DPS
After they said he will "not be the final boss" i expect him to die somewhere in the middle of 6.0
Probably but tbh idc as long as he dies 
Yoshi-P Shirts:
Batman - DRK
007 - MCH
Scarlet Witch - Red Mage
Spider-Man - Samurai
Bugs Bunny Race Shirt - Viera
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Did it look like Zenos was sitting on a throne of skulls
a templar if you want to dig in with the name of the song on the shirt
i don't think it's skulls but it looks like it's made of bone/biomechanical growths
Nice!
They’ve already edited the AST quests plenty to account for changes; I suppose they’ll just have to keep doing it
death knight 
how did spider-man link to samurai?
templar ==> knight mage
did they announce any guests for alliance raids
Final boss for sure is gonna be Zodiark
Sam Raimi
No roku
@tough fern nawh zenos
that whole tower looks very much like a modern update to the Giger-esque stuff like Kefka's Tower in 6
Spider-Man > Sam Raimi Trilogy -> Samu Raimi -> Samurai
what the fuck do you call paladin then?
ohhh
tho new collab dungeons
paladin is still paladin
Sam Raimi in Japanese is pronounced Samuraimi
Give us a thief already
Nah
Alliance raid will focus on story bits not collab
zenos with zodiark stuff
ez
So, My prediction for real is that Zenos possesses Zodiark and we posess Hydaelyn... because Zenos already wants to do that.
new merch in the store bro
sex pistols...
next job = Gun Prostitute
@gaunt star something like that I think so
templars tend to more pole arms in the ff sort of lore, not swords as muhc
You'll take ninja and like it
ah yes a balmung exclusive job.
no, they said explicitly that it's gonna be original to ffxiv and it's gonna address one of the mysteries in eorzea which i'm gonna go for silvertear lake to actually get us underground to underworld just to keep up with the heavy ffiv theme
6.0 is steering away from zodiark and hydaelyn though
Dark Knight/Shadowbringers followed by Paladin/Endwalker...they're really going in with the FFIV theme
from the live letter, 6.0 looks like ffxiv is dying
6.1 and forward
6.0 is the closure for that arc
its a new arc
Time to invade other worlds
Estinien Kain is also joining us for Trust
🤔 they said 6.0 was the end of the story they started in 2.0, not the end of the game REEEEEE
The marketboard gotta be messed up
dead game 😔 thank god pso2ng is out this year
also yah is marketboard gonna be open?
yeah there will be plenty after this arc
PSO2 NG can die a
can't wait for belts to be removed, I hate belts all my homies hate belts
@untold gull but can we trust a Dragoon on the moon? One flip and they yeet right off the whole planetoid. And then there won't be any finding them.
Devola
we don't even know if cross center marketboard is a thing but they mentioned "heavier" restrictions
new arc is hype, i can't wait to see whats in store
can I travel datacenters and buy shit
So did they actually say when data center travel will be released?
is this where i just kick you from the server?
After seeing 6.0 fk pso2 
6.0 story will actually be a closure to the overarching plot that 14 has been on since forever. With 6.1 starting a new arc
the part of the song 2:17 onwards is impossibly kino
I trust Estinien. Not Dragoons
hopefully a brand new vibe in the new arc
OH yes the belts no moreeee
im not allowed to troll? 😔
this isn't an area to troll
"Aether/Primal only, Crystal == KICK"
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cleave is mad no male bunnies 
cause I am
what happens to all the belts
do they just become items
New job makes me want to play healer
@gaunt star uwu
well
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FINE! i wont troll here. nerds
Good riddance ugly male bunnies
Pls Sqare where is my graphical updates im tired of seeing PS2 era feets
I don't think male Viera will happen period
Final boss is the moonbase alpha astronauts
yah it wasnt happening
belts are being sent to calamity salvager, ostensibly so you can... uh... I don't know why the fuck you'd ever want belts again lmao
wonder where do we go from here. garlemald will no longer be a threat after this so we relatively have world peace, ascians donezos, big bad zodiark and hydaelyn are gone, every expansions raises the stakes so whats gonna happen in 7.0
OwO
there's still more information on the horizon
hats for viera now that im interested in
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If only we had our male viena
Either their stats are moved over to other accessories or just yeeted
because it was deleted from meme channel
What is the new job?
6.0 is going to have 30 minute healer queues <.<
More plot theory; Zeromus IS Zodiark, and he caused the end of days so that the Ascians would turn to him for worship and give him power to awaken
male buns could still happen at the fanfest, but don't expect it lol
Final Boss gonna be transformed Zenos/Zodiark 
New worlds, new planets. It's a good question tho
Data Center travel = Final Fantasy 14: Containment Breach
rip my Speed Belt, I’ll miss you
They said Pandemonium would be FF14 original by the way.
Oh, fuck
you can technically wear that bunny ear thing as hyur no?
how do we stop the trailer from looping ? i can't go to bed if it play
Belt Man is the final Raid Boss in 6.0
As a DRK a new healer job pleases me cause it means faster ques for meeeeeee
just a friendly reminder.
they said both raid sets were originals really
What are going to call endwalker? Ew? Lol
I can’t wait for strat wars when filthy NA players cant adapt to JP strats
My friend already mains Sage
could call it just End
enw? end?
Please
Well, at least this time they won't pull another eden
pandemonim was also a place in ff9
EW
Im so glad they go with original stuff now and not full on refferencing
JP will fear our use of no macros
and we call SAGE SAG
NA players have strats? Don't they just try to bruteforce everything?
S A G
SGE
It's the final dungeon in final fantasy 2
the new healer class SAG
SAG
End me im too hyped 
you mean because they actually told us it's definitely gonna be ascian again?
ima call it sag idc if it is sge
new healer is SGE
Not SGE
EU is where it's at, we play both sides so we always come out on top
sorry
its SAG boys
It's totally SGE.
Not SAG
endwalker site is up now
well laha was not killed by us but thordan so he must be back
Whats inside the moon?
Gunbreaker is gnb so sage is sge
Zodiark probably
Question... what are those glowing egg things in the tower in the trailer?
@feral thorn link for peasants like me
END & SGE.. Sigh May is too far..
probably zodiark? more ancient stuff?
templar sounds like a tank job tbh
The moon is a giant egg and Doctor Who foreshadowed 6.0
So I feel like Ishikawa might have another banger story on the way.
Theres a giant hole there
male viera
the other job could be necro or like someone pointed out, templar
Zodiark is in the Moooooooon
I think with what the trailer has shown us we've got something good on our hands
So I'm guessing the Alphinaud/Alisae scene is from 5.5 when we go fight the tower.
Templar is a weird pick
i'd really doubt something like a necromancer to be anything but a caster
wont be nerco
well his shirt was an obvs pointer
yooooooooooooooooo sage looks so sick oml
I called paladin being the hero class since January
okay guys hear me out
corsair was possible
it may not have anything to do with the skeleton, it’s a band t-shirt from a japanese clothing line
"Past the far edge of fate... ring blades dark and light"
so when we destroy the moon, do we also destroy the tides, WHAT OF THE SAHAGAINS
Yes but it could be the skeleton too
i'm pretty sure that light is just the Sun rising behind us
because Azem
"nice shirt" "anything to add" "no comment"
Probably tbh
I gotta say tho, I'm very glad the PLD armour Derplander has is like a callback to Cecil Harvey's PLD armour
so it could be necro, we're due for a new limited anyway
I just woke up watching announcement now. How are AST mains reacting to their class getting retooled?
was spider man or the scarlet witch new jobs?
AST dead
Are we using Zordiak to save the world just like the ancients did?
Cali your theory is already better than the dumb time travel xd
haha no we arent getting nerco boys
bro when i get to the moon i'm spamming AEIOU AEIOU AEIOU
ast dumpstered again because they didn't know what to do with the utility job
john madden
We're whalers on the Moon, we carry a harpoon. But there ain't no whales so we tell tall tales and sing a whaling tune
AST ded SCH ded
My NGNG is Scythe wielding, maiming dps w/ nothing at all to do w/ Necro or Death.
AST getting dookied on
beastmaster might be more likely as a limited since they got the animations and existance of them covered in lore
I want the creepy ffiv fart noise moon music
@worn forge by your logic new job is a band, don't say dumb things pls
the planet is actually a death star
ast need a real card job like HW
AST is fine, old Card system was better imo, SCH is also fine
we have uh... few necromancers that aren't exactly just blm
As a fan of realistic armor who also play PLD, I love the PLD armor in the trailer, it's is the most realistic set of armor in FFXIV ever, with only 1 or 2 set come close. the influence of the new designer who like dark souls aesthetic really shows
The logo likes straight out of star wars too
Man these memes are delicious
@grand flint ty that is now mine
one of these days alice, bang zoom, straight to the moon
i try to spot some Azem glyph but nothing
it is 1.0 wow
I want our glyph to be an emote please
Seriously guys it's coming full circle 
look at the new year message I posted
i just want my boy hildibrand back
an interesting theory from State of the Realm:
Anima ends up being a Terminus recreation of Yotsuyu
the hateful queen, twisted by sorrow and rage
When we get it lol
then spam it all over limsa with no context for the noobs

hildy is trapped in the moon we gotta get our boy
I try to not take SOTR seriously when Ethys is on, dude thought Unukalhai was Gaius’ son
@viral dew hey can we discuss spoilery stuff in the lounges? I know healer lounge is going off rn
Just an observation the introduction of sage and a melee dps really kills class speculation in the future. The only thing we got right was that it was another healer. A classic Final Fantasy job in name only. We thought we would get a caster by looking at numbers of each. That idea is dead too
Templar would be disappointing. I hope it won't be it
"We" were wrong ? Please i don't remember being wrong so far with what we see
Sage is an old job class
Inb4 its an original class
Maybe it's because they needed a physical melee for Derplander as a poster class for next expac 
BLU disappoints me
I mean if templar is lance and shield im down tbh
Templar is unlikely due to what PLD is called in JP, “Knight”
The whole Necromancer Idea is still open, there were some hints to that but a lot thought that about chemist too
why so? we get another dps to actually share gear with drg for once
no its straight up an edit of the logo for FF4 the after years, makes sense since Endwalker is striaght up FF4, just like shadowbringers was FF3
But I think it's necromancer cause we are due for a new limited job
Ethys makes absolutely wild theories for views. I wouldn't recommend listening to him most of the time
when did sages get mecha gun wings that shoot healing barrier beams?
it'd have to be a class that uses original weapon not lance?
I'm leaning into either reaper or a scythe wielding mystic knight. As the main thing is that it's a scythe
polearms != lances
I dont think its gonna be limited, the wouldve said so from the get go
I'm surprised barely any FF7 reference sides weapons
no limited jobs plz
they namedropped Necromancer jokingly during the stream, then later said they would reveal the job in May. There’s zero chance they did that and still have the job be Necro
why would they say something from the get go about something that hasn't been revealed what the hell
tbh i said sycthe would be awesome to another group of ppl a while ago
DPS Job: Gambler
Maybe they did it because nobody would expect it then anymore
I knew Sage was POSSIBLE but I didnt think they'd get in cause they use rods...I didnt think they'd make a WHOLE NEW WEAPON
Aw yeah baby
Is that the void ark?