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wet mountain Feb 5, 2021, 8:28 AM

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Yeah

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 8:29 AM

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I'll give you a HQ Ginger cookie for it

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sadcarby

wet mountain Feb 5, 2021, 8:29 AM

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Haha and also the music scroll afterwards lol

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 8:29 AM

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Two HQ Ginger Cookies

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I've seen quite a few people pushing for it recently looting today

wet mountain Feb 5, 2021, 8:29 AM

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Need to run DB 252 more times for all the relics to be done

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So yaa

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 8:30 AM

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Like gabriel/hair/coin

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But that's still 20 something runs

wet mountain Feb 5, 2021, 8:30 AM

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Hair still costs like 20mil mount is like 15mil

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On Gilgamesh

radiant pollen Feb 5, 2021, 8:30 AM

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i'm not ready to do CT again for another relic

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 8:30 AM

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At this point, farming Clusters and just selling mount for a big bucks is better than doing DB sirlioWha

wet mountain Feb 5, 2021, 8:31 AM

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I'm doing DB for relics average run takes 40mins

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Only die once now because of stupid mistakes or ppl LB and can't see screen lol

radiant pollen Feb 5, 2021, 8:31 AM

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yeah I got all the mechs memorized at this point

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and red mage LB3 still gets me killed

wet mountain Feb 5, 2021, 8:32 AM

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Yeah

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 8:32 AM

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The only time i died is at temperature blades

wet mountain Feb 5, 2021, 8:32 AM

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Red Mage

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So blinding

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 8:33 AM

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Rdm lb3 looks cool if you get rid of the flashbang

wet mountain Feb 5, 2021, 8:33 AM

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Yeahb

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Wish u can turn off lbs in options

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 8:33 AM

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Why they had to make it blind you I'll never know, it just ruins all screenshots you want to take with it

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I love dropping meteorite on blm, it just has a nice, Chunky sound

wet mountain Feb 5, 2021, 8:34 AM

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Having everyone LB3 same time sucks

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 8:34 AM

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3 way samurai lb3 looks badass tho

wet mountain Feb 5, 2021, 8:34 AM

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Yes

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 8:35 AM

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Or having 3 ninjas do it at the same time, unlimited blade works right there

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Someone find that one guy with the cringy lb3 macro

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Omae wa mou shindeiru <insert boss name>

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Well that's ok because it's small

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I'm talking about the people who have an entire paragraph for theirs

wet mountain Feb 5, 2021, 8:37 AM

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I see that quite a bit lol

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 8:37 AM

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Yeah, but its anime, and anime is cring

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I mean we play FF, which is very anime

grave raft Feb 5, 2021, 8:38 AM

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I remember a sam that has a macro, when the sam uses midare it inserted a quote from Yasuo from LOL.

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haha

kindred meteor Feb 5, 2021, 8:39 AM

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peeps be putting lines straight from Naruto for their NIN LB3 macros

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 8:39 AM

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Every sam I see that has a anime macro for the lb3 always does while using it

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The lb3 doesn't even look like the move they are referencing at all

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Sam's lb3 looks nothing like unlimited blade works

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haha

kindred meteor Feb 5, 2021, 8:40 AM

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once had someone copy pasting Sonic Fanfiction in Alliance chat during Rabanastre

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 8:41 AM

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One of my favorite paragraph limit breaks I've seen was a "this bitch empty yeet" chat macro

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Perfectly timed with the monk punch lmao

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I can understand that

kindred meteor Feb 5, 2021, 8:41 AM

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you can bet I switched off party chat real fast

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 8:42 AM

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I remember people posting dad jokes in chat when, firmament got updated

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Full chat of dad jokes

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People should MSQ spoilers in my chat

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I remember there was a guy who shouted "Haurchefant dies!" Which was funny because in order to do the firmament you have to have completed 3.3 which is way after he dies

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The only funny was "I went to the zoo the other day, there was only one dog in it, it was a shitzu." Joke

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Ok that made me snort

radiant ice Feb 5, 2021, 8:47 AM

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gaunt star I remember there was a guy who shouted "Haurchefant dies!" Which was funny becau...

Wait he dies shockedhildy

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 8:48 AM

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catscream

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I am happy that Queen was Roegadyn, i was begining to think square hates them

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Well she is antagonists, so probably they do sirlioLul

latent stream Feb 5, 2021, 8:57 AM

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Maybe she's the teaser for fem roegadyn

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Idk

radiant pollen Feb 5, 2021, 8:58 AM

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i got in such a good DB group

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the bosses are just melting

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:00 AM

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I wiish that for myself sirlioWha

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Again, best time was 43m32s, dare i say WR

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Anyone got link to gnb relic?

radiant pollen Feb 5, 2021, 9:07 AM

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gaunt star Anyone got link to gnb relic?

pins

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:09 AM

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Hmm??

rustic heath Feb 5, 2021, 9:12 AM

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Tanked in entire DR raid. Yay

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playdead

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:12 AM

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blue mage dps is rediculous once you get all the new spells

rustic heath Feb 5, 2021, 9:12 AM

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Main. Tanked

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:12 AM

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killed last orbonne boss during maze

half phoenix Feb 5, 2021, 9:14 AM

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The queen wasn’t a Roegadyn.

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That was a handmaiden or priestess, can’t remember which

dim sigil Feb 5, 2021, 9:28 AM

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At long last the hw raids are done

random anvil Feb 5, 2021, 9:31 AM

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Roe Queen was a patsy sadcarby

half phoenix Feb 5, 2021, 9:36 AM

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No they aren’t 😛

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Go run them 288 more times!

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Whats the drop rate on fates for that step anyways?

unreal wadi Feb 5, 2021, 10:03 AM

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you can do

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fates with any class right?

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curious

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since ill just use my BLU to tear through all the FATEs

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 10:03 AM

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Yep

unreal wadi Feb 5, 2021, 10:03 AM

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sweet

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 10:03 AM

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Just need the weapon in your inventory/armoury

oak pike Feb 5, 2021, 10:04 AM

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Imagine doing fates is a guaranteed drop if you are using the weapon

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Well the critical engagement

inland galleon Feb 5, 2021, 10:36 AM

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are blu spells you can get from masked carnivale mobs not guaranteed?

languid flint Feb 5, 2021, 10:39 AM

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for step 2 of relic is the drop rate from fates relatively high or low?

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 10:42 AM

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inland galleon are blu spells you can get from masked carnivale mobs not guaranteed?

Unless it was changed, then I’m pretty sure yes.

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 10:43 AM

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languid flint for step 2 of relic is the drop rate from fates relatively high or low?

From what I hear most people say, it feels like it’s around 10%

inland galleon Feb 5, 2021, 10:46 AM

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T_T

vagrant sinew Feb 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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so basically atma drop rate atm?

languid flint Feb 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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nooo

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doing atma farming was the worst experience 😭😭

vagrant sinew Feb 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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well I mean
now

languid flint Feb 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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and i did after they buffed the drop rates LOL

vagrant sinew Feb 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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not in the past

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oh

languid flint Feb 5, 2021, 10:48 AM

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i just remmeber doing 40 fates one night

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without a single srop

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i was like do i not have smth equipped

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but it was just bad luck :(

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ok but how did yall do that relic grinding before buffs

wary perch Feb 5, 2021, 10:48 AM

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Atma have better drop rate in vanilla then crystal drop from mob and CE in bozja

languid flint Feb 5, 2021, 10:49 AM

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which crystal?

sterile moat Feb 5, 2021, 10:52 AM

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wary perch Atma have better drop rate in vanilla then crystal drop from mob and CE in bozja

hahaha... no

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hell the fuck no

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i was relatively lucky when it came to atma

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but i knew people that spent days in a single area

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 10:53 AM

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Yeah first version of atma drop rate was like

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5% or less

sterile moat Feb 5, 2021, 10:53 AM

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the fact i barely did any CEs since relic came out

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and i got 2 crystals

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 10:53 AM

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People legit sometimes spent a literal day on a zone

sterile moat Feb 5, 2021, 10:53 AM

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comes to show how much higher it is

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yep

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and fates aren't like CEs

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they're always up

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and dying super fast

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 10:54 AM

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I do think they should’ve given CLL some love in the relic steps

vagrant sinew Feb 5, 2021, 10:54 AM

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oh pog

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DR savage got cleared

sterile moat Feb 5, 2021, 10:54 AM

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DR and castrum should've had relic drops

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 10:54 AM

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The queen looks fucking insane

marsh osprey Feb 5, 2021, 10:54 AM

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man that memory droprate from fates is sooo low

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namazuconcern

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 10:54 AM

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Well DR does for the 3rd step

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But for the other 2 would’ve been even better

sterile moat Feb 5, 2021, 10:55 AM

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yea

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some normal coin drops would've been nice too

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cause you only get silver

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or some exchange rate for them

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if you're spamming DR normal for the rare drops

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you aren't progressing at anything else other than the judge armor

marsh osprey Feb 5, 2021, 10:56 AM

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yeah

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they kinda fucked bozja progress and relic

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Only good thing that you can have multiple relic quests open

placid sail Feb 5, 2021, 10:58 AM

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DRS cleared? nice

marsh osprey Feb 5, 2021, 10:58 AM

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And dont need to be on the job and neither need to wep equippef

vagrant sinew Feb 5, 2021, 10:58 AM

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placid sail DRS cleared? nice

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haven't seen any other bosses apart from the 1st one and the queen but

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queen savage looks insane

sterile moat Feb 5, 2021, 10:59 AM

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i can't hear that music anymore

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soulsurrender

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 11:11 AM

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seems the same

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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do blu's do the most damage at level 70 ?

stoic forum Feb 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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Hello, which floors of potd is for the last relic weapon step?

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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out of all the jobs

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 11:32 AM

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Absolutely not even close

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BLU is broken, as always

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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If you have the primal spells it’s on par with normal 70 jobs I think? If you’re unsyncing things it’s best with a Max ilvl 80 job

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blu is the superior job xd

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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Even that isnt true anymore necessarily

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since with a fully buffed Final Sting you can just flat out oneshot bosses that 80's cant

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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i think blue does about 14k dps

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at lvl 70

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 11:34 AM

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meaning that you skip phases

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 11:34 AM

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we killed ultima in orbonne during maze xd

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and last boss syrcus tower bugs out

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 11:34 AM

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Yeah, it’s actually faster to do my ARR extremes for Wondrous Tails as BLU now instead of my level 80 jobs

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One-shotting is whack

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 11:35 AM

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i heard that once you've completed the memories step for the new relics you won't have to do it for the rest? is that even true?

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 11:35 AM

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Yes

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Well, kind of

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 11:35 AM

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also be careful leaving on all animations during 24 blu run.you might get blu screen of death xd

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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The step that specifically involves the Mhach / Ivalice memories

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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thats the one i mean

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you can do that step with blu mage btw

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it actually doesnt matter what job you use for the alliance raids

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All I know is if I’m organizing an unsync run I wouldn’t let a blue in who doesn’t have their primal spells

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 11:37 AM

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i mean

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 11:37 AM

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Luckily those aren’t that hard to get anymore these days

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its funny, i've actually been leveling blu while waiting for queues for those raids lmao

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 11:37 AM

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that's not really a BLU yet at that point

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 11:37 AM

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yeah

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thats a blu in training xd

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meanwhile blu mage gets their relic weapon just for completing masked carnivale boss

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next level troling by se xd

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 11:39 AM

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Bit of a stretch to call it a relic

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 11:40 AM

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More like a primal weapon tbh

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i consider it relic tier

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 11:40 AM

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BLU weapons are basically vanity besides the materia slots

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 11:41 AM

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i mean its kinda funny though

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the fastest way to progress relic for jobs is to spam alliance raids with the one job that doesnt have relic from bojam xd

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im looking forward to see how much faster you can kill marlboro mount raids now with the new spells

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as theoretically blue gets stronger at lower levels than other jobs each patch

marsh osprey Feb 5, 2021, 11:57 AM

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time to do hw alliance raids

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deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 12:03 PM

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Ultravibration is so broken for solo levelling

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 12:06 PM

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^^

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Ultra vibration is just broken

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 12:07 PM

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Kill like 3-4 solo mobs to get your chain bonus up, then pull a gigantic pack and instadeath all of them

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:07 PM

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If only there was good mob density in SB areas

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 12:07 PM

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There's a few decent places

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Just gotta know where to look

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Like, at 64 (which i just finished)

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the Lupin mobs have a very dense camp that you can use for this

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:08 PM

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Yeah I found like 2 decent spots in Azim Steppes with the Halgai and cows

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And Lochs has a decent one with the fishes kinda near the other aetheryte

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The one not near the zone entrance

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 12:08 PM

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Yeah

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:09 PM

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Ruby Sea is decent with the Isle of Zekki

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 12:09 PM

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Basically anywhere there are humanoid-ish mobs is good

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generally

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:09 PM

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I never grinded in the fringes but the Ananta hostile place is pretty packed

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 12:09 PM

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the Ziggurat was good at level 61 or 62, i forget which

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:09 PM

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And for Peaks, maybe the Jhammel/worms?

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Oh yeah that too

vagrant sinew Feb 5, 2021, 12:10 PM

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woooooo

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rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:10 PM

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The Carmine Kitchen is another packed spot in the peaks

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 12:10 PM

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There’s good mob density in yanxia

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:10 PM

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As for Yanxia, best spot for lower half is probably the Lupin craters

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 12:10 PM

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There is a place I leveled that was a square

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So you just want around in a square to level

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 12:11 PM

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I'm thinking at 66, just scouting around

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:11 PM

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Yeah those golems/slimes/elementals are decent

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 12:11 PM

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the 2 legged elephant things in teh caves

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 12:11 PM

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And I learned triple trident and Nibel

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 12:11 PM

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Those are super dense

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:11 PM

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Bit angy that the elementals resist the death spells for whatever reason

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 12:11 PM

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Leveling in yanxia was super worth just for triple trident

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 12:12 PM

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Eh, triple trident has felt very underwhelming

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when it was datamine everyone was like "this is the new shit!"

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annnnnd its a 1.5 min cd

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lol

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:13 PM

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Matra magic is where it’s at.

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 12:31 PM

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tripple trident is actually quite strong in blu opener

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as long as you prebuff it correctly

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:33 PM

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I purged my BLU bars and I realized I have a lot of free space once I consolidated my damage filler spells

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 12:33 PM

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i dont like rose of destruction though.400 potency and 30 sec gcd and has to be cast.jsut annoying to remember to use it amogst the 15 other spells xd

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:33 PM

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Yeah that one is a bit of a bother

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 12:34 PM

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its like for what it does im kinda not bothered too much rememberign it

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everything else is more important

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kinda curious this theorizesing about a dot blue mage.on paper it sounds good for dps.but it's probably also a pain to keep up and not overwrite ticks

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:36 PM

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Too bad half the dots either overwrite themselves or are only a gain on multiple targets

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I think current endgame builds don’t even use Song of Torment anymore due to how busted Nightbloom is.

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 12:37 PM

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you still need song of torment because nightbloom is a minute dot with a 2 min cd

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:37 PM

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!action song of torment

lusty shadowBOT Feb 5, 2021, 12:37 PM

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**Song of Torment** : lvl 1 BLU (400 MP) (2.5 second cooldown)(2.0 second base cast time)

Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 50.
Additional Effect: Unaspected damage over time
Potency: 50
Duration: 30s

Blue Magic

Favored by sirens, the Song of Torment carries in its melody a malicious enchantment. It ensnares the listener's spirit, inducing phantom pain that soon becomes physical as the body struggles to process the mind's trauma.

Obtained

Siren / Pharos Sirius

Blue Magic

Type: Magic
Aspect: None
Rank: 2

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:37 PM

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!action Nightbloom

lusty shadowBOT Feb 5, 2021, 12:37 PM

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**Nightbloom** : lvl 1 BLU (300 MP) (120.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Deals unaspected damage to all nearby enemies with a potency of 400 for the first enemy, and 50% less for all remaining enemies.
Additional Effect: Unaspected damage over time
Potency: 75
Duration: 60s

Blue Magic

This extravagant technique belongs to Tsukuyomi, Lady of the Moon, whose malignant ire manifests as a field of flowers which then burst apart in a hail of deadly petals. Accept the inevitability of the grave, and the power of the nightbloom is yours to wield...

Obtained

Tsukuyomi / Castrum Fluminis

Blue Magic

Type: Magic
Aspect: None
Rank: 5

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:38 PM

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Nightbloom is nearly quadruple the damage, and you always use it in Moon Flute

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So it basically balances out

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 12:38 PM

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for opener yes.but its still exrta dps keep up torment after it falls off

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:38 PM

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Have to think about move spaces though

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And the 24 spots are becoming more and more valuable

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 12:39 PM

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i know

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its frustrating

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its really depends how much of the debuffs etc we can dump on tank and healer responsibility

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either we we still need to keep raise and diamond back

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and the blue mage limit break (aka final sting)

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:40 PM

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Everyone having Raise is usually a no brainer, especially due to the long cooldown

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Better safe than sorry

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 12:42 PM

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the main issue i ahve right now is keeping space for aoe for trash phases that arent ogd ones

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 12:43 PM

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Debates are still going on about Song. But I also think it and Bristle are still mandatory.

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:44 PM

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Personally I like not having the two around for ease of rotation

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 12:44 PM

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I'm of the firm believe some new spells should've shared a cooldown with old actions.

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And just add Main & Mend VI

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 12:44 PM

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agree i hate having a dot i have to refresh every 30 seconds

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 12:45 PM

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You must hate SMN and BRD

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 12:45 PM

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i do but summoner and bard have way less buttons to press xd

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 12:45 PM

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and all healers, too

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:45 PM

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I hate it more so due to needing to pair it with Bristle

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 12:45 PM

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But BRD has 3 buttons to use for dots. BLU only 2

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 12:46 PM

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its not about the upkeep of dot

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its about what else you have to do in that time

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:46 PM

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Bristle is basically only for the DoT and as a downtime thing

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But for the downtime part Whistle is better if you use physical filler spells

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 12:46 PM

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Whistle was strictly a sting tool up until now

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angrymiqote

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 12:47 PM

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whistle is needed now for trident

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 12:47 PM

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now it's just as mandatory as bristle is

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you still whistle for sting

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 12:47 PM

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oh ofc

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:47 PM

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Whistle/Bristle are in weird positions

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 12:48 PM

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i still think magic hammer might be manditory aswell

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just for mp upkeep

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:48 PM

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The INT down makes it great for mitigation

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 12:48 PM

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that too

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:48 PM

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And I’m pretty sure it has a fast cast time to allow for weaving

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And it’s also stronger than filler

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 12:48 PM

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like magic hammer was almost complety neeed for parts of t13

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:49 PM

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So a nice package of +’s going for it

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 12:49 PM

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MP is not an issue as far as we are concerned for now.

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Tanks and healers absolutely still need it though

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cuz if Addle is needed, then hammer is mandatory, too

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but the DPS can skip it

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:49 PM

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Yeah Tanks are slaves to Diamondback and Healers need all the help they can get with their lack of oGCD heals

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 12:49 PM

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magic hammer is good for recovery after being ressed from death

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 12:49 PM

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just a +20 potency gain anyway

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 12:50 PM

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if the other thing is on cd

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:50 PM

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Though I guess Diamondback isn’t your main/only mitigation option anymore with Dragonforce and Chelonian Gate being a thing now

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 12:50 PM

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Gate is a weird one...

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:51 PM

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(Yes cactguard is a thing but it felt pretty weak)

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 12:51 PM

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have to say fog seems like great tank spell for increasing their dps

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 12:51 PM

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CACTGUARD IS IRRELEVANT

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oops caps

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:51 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/762800769380384829/806704372783775744/cold_fog.png

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My DPS BLU spells

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 12:51 PM

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fog is a tank spell

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 12:51 PM

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is avail strat still manditory for t13?

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 12:51 PM

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or solo

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:52 PM

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Nah you can use it for upcoming raidwide damage

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Get that gold parse that no one will probably care about!

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 12:52 PM

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if we ever get blu ultimate that parse from tanks might be needed xd

sterile moat Feb 5, 2021, 12:54 PM

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can always have angel snack instead

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:54 PM

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!action angel snack

lusty shadowBOT Feb 5, 2021, 12:54 PM

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**Angel's Snack** : lvl 1 BLU (400 MP) (120.0 second cooldown)(2.0 second base cast time)

Restores own HP and the HP of all nearby party members.
Cure Potency: 400
Additional Effect: Grants healing over time effect when you are under the effect of Aetherial Mimicry: Healer
Cure Potency: 200
Duration: 15s
Shares a recast timer with certain blue magic spells.

Blue Magic

A spell attributed to the guardian statues of the New World wherein the caster manifests a spread of aetherial treats with panacean properties. Those nourished by the feast find their wounds quickly closing─an effect which lingers when provided by a practitioner with knowledge of healing.

Obtained

Level 70 - Whalaqee Totem

Blue Magic

Type: Magic
Aspect: None
Rank: 3

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:54 PM

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Ehh, not sure if DPS would want it

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Also not sure which spells exactly it shares with

sterile moat Feb 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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dunno either, i don't think i have it yet

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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2 minute cooldown makes me think Short End and Nightbloom

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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also the long cd doesnt justify the useage on dps

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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And DPS have tons of spare MP

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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Not even sure if healers want snack

next quarry Feb 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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They do

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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It’s a pretty spicy heal

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1,400 total potency of healing per person

next quarry Feb 5, 2021, 12:56 PM

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It's an AoE heal with more potency than exu

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:56 PM

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Exuviate

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 12:56 PM

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but that Matra Magic though

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👀

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:56 PM

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Strotam is a straight upgrade to that unless you need to cleanse

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 12:57 PM

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8 x 50 is still 400 potency
BLUs are DPS no matter what

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 12:57 PM

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Maybe if you have one healer take Gobskin and the other takes angel snack

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Instead of the two taking both

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But it depends on if the fight has lots of outgoing damage

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 12:59 PM

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hmm a pf for farming 04s

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gonan try sneak in as blu xd

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:00 PM

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!action matra magic

lusty shadowBOT Feb 5, 2021, 1:00 PM

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**Matra Magic** : lvl 1 BLU (400 MP) (120.0 second cooldown)(2.0 second base cast time)

Deals an unaspected eightfold attack, each hit with a potency of 50.
Potency is increased to 100 when you are under the effect of Aetherial Mimicry: DPS.
Shares a recast timer with certain blue magic spells.

Blue Magic

A variety of magic employed by New World voidsent, this spell pummels the target with a barrage of incandescent orbs. Its name, likely familiar to scholars of the arcane, is said to have once encompassed the Whalaqee arts of near-death curses and converting life force into mana.

Obtained

Learn 100 spells.

Blue Magic

Type: Magic
Aspect: None
Rank: 3

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 1:01 PM

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800 for DPS, 400 for the rest

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:01 PM

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Damn

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 1:01 PM

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absolutely worth to bristle

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Our conversation also let me forget about my pizza

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it's burned

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:02 PM

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I don’t know if I’m anywhere near 100 skills

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!action triple trident

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 1:02 PM

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angrymiqote

lusty shadowBOT Feb 5, 2021, 1:02 PM

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**Triple Trident** : lvl 1 BLU (300 MP) (90.0 second cooldown)(2.0 second base cast time)

Delivers a threefold attack, each hit with a potency of 150.
This action does not share a recast timer with any other actions.

Blue Magic

Originally developed by the Namazu as a spearfishing technique, this blindingly fast triple strike has proven just as effective against creatures more intent on devouring the fisher.

Obtained

Ebisu Catfish / Yanxia (28, 6)

Blue Magic

Type: Physical
Aspect: Piercing
Rank: 1

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 1:02 PM

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Current number of spells is 104

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 1:02 PM

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definitely need whistle for trident

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 1:02 PM

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So it’s pretty packed

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:03 PM

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Damn

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I definitely don’t have it then lol

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 1:03 PM

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Tingle makes that into 750 potency too

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:03 PM

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Yea

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 1:03 PM

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bristle and whistle are worth it, as long as they are above the average of 220 potency in combination

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 1:04 PM

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Whistle+Tingle makes trident 1,350 potency. Eyes

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:05 PM

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That’s what I do

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 1:05 PM

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new flute opener is fucked up man

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I wish flute was gone tbh

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 1:06 PM

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Yeah I honestly avoid using it

vagrant sinew Feb 5, 2021, 1:06 PM

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so what are the best alliance raids to spam for the mhach/ivalice step

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:06 PM

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The first of each

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Void Ark / Raba

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 1:06 PM

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Void Ark with randoms, maybe Mhach with a good premade

vagrant sinew Feb 5, 2021, 1:06 PM

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well then

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:07 PM

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Ozma with randoms is omegalul

vagrant sinew Feb 5, 2021, 1:07 PM

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time to go do a few HW fates then

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2 birds with 1 stone

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I get HW fates for the recollection step

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and I get mhach/ivalice done for the law's order step

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LOL INSTAQUEUE FOR RABANASTRE OK

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:12 PM

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Yea

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:12 PM

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wet crown new flute opener is fucked up man

What’s that?

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 1:14 PM

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void ark premade

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with 24 blus

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yeah moonflute opener is really tight

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i hate it

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i think they should remove waning nocturn and just make it like a 20% increase buff for 10 seconds or something

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because if you mess up timing its a huge dps loss missing a ogd and dealying for a further 15 seconds

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:18 PM

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Oh the job has an actual opener

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I just spam shit haha

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Where y’all find the blue opener

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 1:21 PM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tZ95lLdwldQSl0ebm0On--utwSabvH5sBIfr_j4je84/edit#gid=1656928302

Google Docs

5.45 BLU Sets

Misc. Info

If you find any incorrect data or have suggestions, reach me on Discord at soft#8888 or in the Blue Academy, or The Balance Discord server.
Everything on this sheet is still up for debate, but these are the likely suggestions. It isn't clear which set is the best yet, but these are t...

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thats the one ive seen

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btw you cant oneshot garuda ex

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i just tried

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when you delete all her hp from final sting she still jumps 😭

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:24 PM

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Wonder why that is

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 1:24 PM

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forced mechanic i guess

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because remember people were wiping to enrage bugs before

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:25 PM

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Yeah but i mean moreso, why her and not the others

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Weird ass ARR spaghetti code

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 1:25 PM

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its likely because garuda have so many jupm phases

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jump

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they probably didnt factor her being onshot first phase xd

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 1:28 PM

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At least I can one shot leviathan

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He has so much forced downtime

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:29 PM

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Levi is the worst, followed by Shiva

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thank god for skips on both

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 1:30 PM

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Hopefully it works for Nael too so I can easily farm her for replica gear

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:30 PM

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Hah

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if it works on Nael, the value of those items gonna plummet

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 1:31 PM

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That assumes people will put in effort

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:31 PM

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True, laziness is a thing

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 1:31 PM

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Getting BLU to 70 and learning the needed spells takes a bit

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Especially since Moon Flute needs you to do some of the Carnivale

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!action moon flute

lusty shadowBOT Feb 5, 2021, 1:31 PM

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**Moon Flute** : lvl 1 BLU (500 MP) (2.5 second cooldown)(2.0 second base cast time)

Grants the effect of Waxing Nocturne, increasing damage dealt by 50% and movement speed by 30%.
Duration: 15s
When effect ends, the player is afflicted with Waning Nocturne, preventing the use of auto-attack, weaponskills, spells, or abilities.
Duration: 15s

Blue Magic

This technique imitates a peculiar flute wrested from the grasp of a vanquished voidsent. Said creature was initially welcomed as a god by those New World peoples who worship the moon, but it soon became clear to them that the flute was the true source of its power and cruel authority.

Obtained

Complete 10 stages in the Masked Carnivale.

Blue Magic

Type: Magic
Aspect: None
Rank: 1

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 1:31 PM

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Huh, thought it was 20 stages

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:31 PM

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Yeah that's a fair point.

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Even so

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10 stages is still more effort than most BLU's willing to do

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 1:32 PM

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Let’s just keep this a secret

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🤫

gritty sail Feb 5, 2021, 1:33 PM

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Sorry should’ve phrased it better

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Any confirmed reports that you don’t need to repeat step two for future weapons?

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:34 PM

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"confirmed" is a stretch. ive seen reports, but i havent seen it for myself from anyone i find to be absolutely trustworthy. it seems likely, and we'll probably be certain today.

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 1:34 PM

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Based on the text/dialogue in the quest, it not directly upgrading your weapon, and the fact it’s from Gerolt instead of his assistant, it’s likely a one-time quest.

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And it doesn’t use the repeatable quest icon supposedly? I’m still on the first step

sterile moat Feb 5, 2021, 1:36 PM

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it's hilarious how bad phantom flurry is

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 1:37 PM

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About 1000-1200 potency for an AoE channel sounds pretty decent

sterile moat Feb 5, 2021, 1:38 PM

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nah, it's 1600

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actually wait

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yea

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 1:38 PM

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From my observation the channel hits every second, is it faster than that?

sterile moat Feb 5, 2021, 1:38 PM

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you can get 5 hits in but it's really close

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yes

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200*5 +600

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:39 PM

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this is the same logic that makes people think flamethrower is bad

sterile moat Feb 5, 2021, 1:39 PM

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it's bad because it shares cd with a 1900 potency dot

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and it locks you into place

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 1:39 PM

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Nightbloom?

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Nah you can use both

sterile moat Feb 5, 2021, 1:39 PM

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oh wait

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 1:39 PM

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They don’t share

sterile moat Feb 5, 2021, 1:39 PM

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you can

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:39 PM

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nightbloom doesnt share with anything

odd yoke Feb 5, 2021, 1:40 PM

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Nightbloom shares with Both Ends

sterile moat Feb 5, 2021, 1:40 PM

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damn

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that's nice then

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:40 PM

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Oh, i didnt know that. The hell does both ends even do....lets see

odd yoke Feb 5, 2021, 1:40 PM

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Just 600 pot aoe

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:40 PM

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Oh

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 1:40 PM

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600 potency AoE that’s big as hell

odd yoke Feb 5, 2021, 1:40 PM

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No fall off

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:40 PM

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lmao wtf

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i guess its better for dungeon trash?

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 1:40 PM

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It’s nice for dungeons that you can’t kill with ram+vibration

odd yoke Feb 5, 2021, 1:40 PM

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Yeah

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:41 PM

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Still, gonna have nightbloom on 99% of the time once i have it

sterile moat Feb 5, 2021, 1:41 PM

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saintly beam haha

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:42 PM

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That's such a weird ability

sterile moat Feb 5, 2021, 1:42 PM

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it's just a pillar of light

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 1:42 PM

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Like, what's the use case for saintly beam

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i cant think of an undead enemy a BLU would care about killing

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other than if they let BLU into POTD someday

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and/or eureka

sterile moat Feb 5, 2021, 1:44 PM

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there's some few undead enemies around but

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eh

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 1:44 PM

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I hear the drop rate in PotD isnt that bad

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Its about 50%

sterile moat Feb 5, 2021, 1:46 PM

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i wonder if the people that put "join as the role you're going as" on blu parties realize how fucking annoying is to get mimics back

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mainly if you're tanking

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that and i wished they revamped BLU interface

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swapping skills is annoying

odd yoke Feb 5, 2021, 1:50 PM

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Or at least the ability

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To favourite spells

sterile moat Feb 5, 2021, 1:50 PM

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you know how they made the piano interface for brd?

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blu needs that

rare sinew Feb 5, 2021, 2:04 PM

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Erm. Just to clarify. The new relics are a different weap rather than an upgrade of the existing relic?
E.g. WHM doesnt upgrade the tree branch?

wary pond Feb 5, 2021, 2:05 PM

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different weps yes

rare sinew Feb 5, 2021, 2:06 PM

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How do we get the non-glowy weap?

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:07 PM

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I think it just skips to it this time

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 2:08 PM

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Welp. Seems like SpS/Det is the way to go for BLU going forward

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Eureka set is BiS

rare sinew Feb 5, 2021, 2:08 PM

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gaunt star I think it just skips to it this time

No powder exchange or wdeva?!

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:09 PM

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Let me look that up to make sure, haven’t gotten there yet

rare sinew Feb 5, 2021, 2:10 PM

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Ah. Gotcha. Thanks.

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Im debating just crafting exarchic or relic

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:11 PM

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https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Resistance_Weapons#Recollection_Weapons_.28iLvl_500.29

Resistance Weapons

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This is after augmented

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:12 PM

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You do need the recollection weapon to get the new relics tho

wary hawk Feb 5, 2021, 2:13 PM

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Does King of headpats mean you receive all the headpats or give the best headpats?

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:13 PM

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I give the best ones

wary hawk Feb 5, 2021, 2:14 PM

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That's fine then. Headpats must be made available to all

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:14 PM

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Right, the recollection before glow up is a generic side quest right?

rare sinew Feb 5, 2021, 2:15 PM

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Plus some scale powder

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:16 PM

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Yea getting recollection is ez

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6 runs of AntiTower

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Fastest dungeon in the game

rare sinew Feb 5, 2021, 2:16 PM

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So lemme just confirm
Generic relic exchange with powder -> glowy with the three memories, then the bitter one -> which i gotta turn in for the new non glowy relic?

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Its the shit before that does my head in

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The 20/20/20

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:17 PM

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Generic Relic > Augmented Relic > Recollection Glowy Relic > New Relic (Laws Order)

rare sinew Feb 5, 2021, 2:17 PM

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facepalm

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Alright

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I lose the recollection one too

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?*

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:17 PM

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Laws Order is coming out next patch right?

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:18 PM

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You can rebuy the old one

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For 1K gil

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Laws Order is out now

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Thats the new relic

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:18 PM

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Oh no shit

rare sinew Feb 5, 2021, 2:18 PM

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facepalm is there a lore explanation for changing it?

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:18 PM

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Okay it just goes into a second glow phase before the final form.

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:18 PM

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Barely. This is how relics are always done every xpac

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Nope

rare sinew Feb 5, 2021, 2:19 PM

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Ah.

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:19 PM

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Laws order is not the final form

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:19 PM

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Ahhhhh

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:19 PM

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Laws order also has a glowy version

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And next patch is the final relic

wary hawk Feb 5, 2021, 2:19 PM

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I wish some of them were. Don't trust SE for jack anymore

rare sinew Feb 5, 2021, 2:19 PM

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Stat-wise, how good are they vs exarchic?

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:19 PM

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Not good

coral kite Feb 5, 2021, 2:20 PM

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Exarchic is still better

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:20 PM

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Relics before the end of the xpac are always for glam

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Only

wary hawk Feb 5, 2021, 2:20 PM

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Also, was I the only person who like WHMs tree branch?

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:20 PM

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Only the final relic is BiS

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Which is 5.55

coral kite Feb 5, 2021, 2:20 PM

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No but gross

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:20 PM

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Okay so expect 5.5 for best weapon in the expansion

rare sinew Feb 5, 2021, 2:20 PM

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Ah. Er, melded or not for the exarhic?

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:20 PM

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Nope Savage will always be slightly better

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:21 PM

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save for savage yes

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:21 PM

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Not melded

rare sinew Feb 5, 2021, 2:21 PM

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Sorry, to clarify, is BiS weaps now still exarchic, or tomestones, ignoring savage?

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:21 PM

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New relics are only ilvl 515

coral kite Feb 5, 2021, 2:21 PM

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Yea relic weapon will be the best for players who don't engage in savage content

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By the end

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:22 PM

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!iglam Law's Order Zweihander

lusty shadowBOT Feb 5, 2021, 2:22 PM

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Error!

No Glamour image found, Kupo!

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:22 PM

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Fug

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Fuck bois havent uploaded it still

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Meehee

coral kite Feb 5, 2021, 2:23 PM

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I feel like putting myself through dr several times for coins

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Need judge set

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:23 PM

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https://youtu.be/oidvcWz3mhc

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gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 2:23 PM

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I wonder how epic the final glow will be or will it end up being a dud like Eureka

coral kite Feb 5, 2021, 2:24 PM

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Bruh I ain't worried about the glow. I hope glows are more subtle cause

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I think they get in the way of the aesthetic of the actual weapon

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:24 PM

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Its what I like about the new relics

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The glows arent overpowering

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 2:24 PM

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I'm a fan of the HW style of final glow

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:24 PM

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You can still see the fucking weapon

coral kite Feb 5, 2021, 2:24 PM

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I don't want a glow stick

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I want a weapon I can actually still see

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But has some cool effect

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 2:26 PM

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coral kite I don't want a glow stick

NIN's got fucked in that regard

coral kite Feb 5, 2021, 2:26 PM

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Like you worked for a while for a cool weapon but you can't even see the actual design cause it's blinding 🤨

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 2:26 PM

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lol

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NIN literally got a glow stick

wary hawk Feb 5, 2021, 2:26 PM

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Still crazy how some jobs had their best relic in ARR. Artists trying to repeat masterpieces lmao

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 2:27 PM

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yeah agreed

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:27 PM

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just had a rabanester run with one of the blus crying non stop over it taking 20 mins

coral kite Feb 5, 2021, 2:27 PM

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haha

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 2:27 PM

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sounds like they wont finish the grind

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:28 PM

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i know right? xd

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he spent the whole time flaming everyone in alliance chat over not having all the spells etc

random anvil Feb 5, 2021, 2:28 PM

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BLU Ivallice sounds fun

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:29 PM

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its funny .like blu openers just delete a chunk of boss hp

coral kite Feb 5, 2021, 2:29 PM

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new blu patch
new blue mages
I'm going to get mad at you for not having every spell unlocked

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 2:29 PM

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blu makes them all nice, with instant trash getting blown up

coral kite Feb 5, 2021, 2:29 PM

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🤨

wary hawk Feb 5, 2021, 2:29 PM

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Wish I was there to see that. "Oh no. How will we ever clear the nonexistent enrage dps check or do the one thing bc you don't have a few spells"

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 2:29 PM

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yeah and the blu opener is crazy lol

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:29 PM

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Funnily enough

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People are saying runs with BLUs are faster

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:30 PM

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although i dont think some peoples pcs will appreciate the nighbloom spam xd

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:30 PM

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Ive yet to experience it

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 2:30 PM

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Where is the freaking blue mage opener

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Yea blue mage seems about the same in void ark

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:30 PM

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My fastest run of void ark was 12 minutes

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 2:30 PM

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The bosses always go invuln so it’s not much a difference

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:30 PM

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With a normal alliamce

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:30 PM

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nightbloom is as bad as red mage lb xd

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:30 PM

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MFs going ham

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:30 PM

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except there are 24 of them being cast

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 2:30 PM

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Ye

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 2:30 PM

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it's kinda hard to fully optimize the blu without looking up a flowchart

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:31 PM

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to be fair id say half the people are jsut moonfluting and mashing all the primal spells without a rotation xd

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 2:31 PM

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Errybody killing Mateus in 2 minutes

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:31 PM

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its still strong that way

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 2:31 PM

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yeah most people are not even halfway optimizing it but I don't really blame them

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quite a lot of options

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:32 PM

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yeah and some spells even though they may not be dpsed just ahve interesting interactions

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i mean the floor board spell is funny as hell as a spammable skill

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 2:33 PM

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i don't think ive tried that one yet

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:33 PM

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it sticks out like a sore thumb

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which is weird considering all the blu spells xd

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its got one good thing going for it

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it gives a 3 sec stun

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so you can rotate it with butchers knife

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butchers knife is 450 potency if target is stunned

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 2:35 PM

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sharpened knife you mean?

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:35 PM

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yeah

drowsy belfry Feb 5, 2021, 2:36 PM

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So having done the quest, I think I THINK this might've been a one and done thing

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gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:36 PM

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dunno why im thinking butchers knife xd

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it better be

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 2:36 PM

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Butchers block

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 2:37 PM

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hmm I guess there always isn't a raid group going in pf for alliance raids

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:37 PM

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usualy someone has a blu mage one up

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but most of the time non blus are banned

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 2:38 PM

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yeah usually but I haven't seen one in the last 10 minutes

drowsy belfry Feb 5, 2021, 2:38 PM

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Can always start one

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:39 PM

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is there a way to make one without having to go into each spot and change it to blu?

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 2:40 PM

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remove role restrictions

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idk

drowsy belfry Feb 5, 2021, 2:43 PM

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that

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and then just mention it's a BLU run

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it'll fill up

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 2:45 PM

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I think it’s faster to just queue

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Because you won’t be getting multiple runs on blue mage parties

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There is always someone that’s leaves

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 2:45 PM

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that's a good point

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:46 PM

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when we did ct spam people didnt really leave and if they did they were replaced really fast

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 2:46 PM

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Doing it on blue mage is worth from the fact blue mage is just fun

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 2:46 PM

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yeah ive seen it fill decently fast too

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 2:46 PM

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Atleast imho

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 2:46 PM

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yeah blue has some interesting things going on

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the other jobs have restricted kits

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 2:46 PM

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i prefer blu runs to be fair

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there is something special about the blu community

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]

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generally in character and the memes xd

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its jsut generally a super fun time

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i think for ct we had it set up that for each boss one alliance would use final stings

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there's a blu syrcus farm in pf on light right now btw

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 2:56 PM

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wow this whole time i had private tab clicked for PF

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...

final isle Feb 5, 2021, 3:03 PM

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BLU farms are faster too

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assuming it's not just a bunch of people with water cannon that is

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I was getting 8-9mins runs yesterday, and there were a bunch of slackers in there

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 3:06 PM

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its hilarious how the boss melts at the end when everyone moon flutes

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 3:07 PM

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ive set up one in pf on light for void ark

spice basin Feb 5, 2021, 3:09 PM

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can someone tell me how you unlock the second new BLU weapon? The fire one?

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 3:13 PM

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i think it's one of the carnivals im not sure though

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 3:29 PM

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why am I seeing some blu's using moon flute on the opener?

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is it worth it?

viscid monolith Feb 5, 2021, 3:29 PM

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Yes

odd yoke Feb 5, 2021, 3:29 PM

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Very very very much so

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 3:29 PM

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ah interesting

odd yoke Feb 5, 2021, 3:29 PM

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Like alot of your Damage comes from it

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 3:29 PM

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so even if you just sit there for 15 seconds doing nothing?

viscid monolith Feb 5, 2021, 3:30 PM

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Yes

odd yoke Feb 5, 2021, 3:30 PM

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You use a fuck ton of high pot skills

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 3:30 PM

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It was worth it even before this patch because of Surpanahka

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and now its even MORE worth it

odd yoke Feb 5, 2021, 3:30 PM

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spice basin can someone tell me how you unlock the second new BLU weapon? The fire one?

Get Perfect Azure on Stage 31, finish under 6:50 with no vuln

viscid monolith Feb 5, 2021, 3:31 PM

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How the fuck do you do that

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His first phase takes so long because of the stupid mimic mechanic

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I guess you have to use dps mimic instead of heal and rely on White Wind for heals

fallow adder Feb 5, 2021, 3:46 PM

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Do more damage, want a link to a 2:57Min Run?

ashen tundra Feb 5, 2021, 3:50 PM

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where do you get the trade in items for the augmented judge gear? I've had zero lucking trying to find info on them

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 3:51 PM

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You guys

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Can you please post the bleh mage opener

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Where is it

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Reeee

digital forge Feb 5, 2021, 3:54 PM

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You need:

Bozjan Augmented
- Regular Bozjan Armor (Coins)
- The Augment for it (999 Coins or Castrum drop [rare])
Regular Judge Gear (Gold Coins)
Upgrade Token (Savage Drops)

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@ashen tundra

ember forum Feb 5, 2021, 3:58 PM

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Man... Everyone getting the hair and then selling it :( then there's me who actually want to use the hair and I can't get it I am seriously nearing 30 runs now T.T

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😭

digital forge Feb 5, 2021, 3:59 PM

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F

ember forum Feb 5, 2021, 3:59 PM

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I'll start dreaming DR

digital forge Feb 5, 2021, 3:59 PM

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you could wait a bit and see how much the price craters

ember forum Feb 5, 2021, 3:59 PM

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I hobestly can play DR now with ny eyes closed

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Lok

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Ok, half closed

random anvil Feb 5, 2021, 3:59 PM

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you can buy gold coins via silver coins that drop from normal Debra

ashen tundra Feb 5, 2021, 4:01 PM

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@digital forge Ah, thanks. just needed to know where the 2nd part of the judge augment dropped. Had the rest.

digital forge Feb 5, 2021, 4:02 PM

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ye, the drops are savage only afaik

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not sure if they're a rare drop from normal

ashen tundra Feb 5, 2021, 4:02 PM

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this grind is too much, lol. so boring

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 4:04 PM

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yeah i'm already feeling it and still have like 24 runs

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 4:27 PM

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Is blu the best tank and healer for 70 content as well?

lilac crest Feb 5, 2021, 4:31 PM

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the thing with blu is

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honestly idek

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fastasfook

radiant pollen Feb 5, 2021, 4:35 PM

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finally done pogianger

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lilac crest Feb 5, 2021, 4:35 PM

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nice

fading mica Feb 5, 2021, 4:35 PM

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ember forum Man... Everyone getting the hair and then selling it :( then there's me who actu...

I feel your pain.. I am starting to grind gil on the side, maybe that will be faster than rng life

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 4:42 PM

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Im glad DRGs finally get a real spear

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And not a fucking trident

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Aquaman uses Tridents

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And no one wants to be Aquaman

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 4:44 PM

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that's more of a glaive though

lilac crest Feb 5, 2021, 4:45 PM

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wasnt the first bozja glowy weapon a spear

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 4:50 PM

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kanekimmm

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Yes

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dun scaith done with team blue

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was a shitshow though

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wiped on last boss once

ember forum Feb 5, 2021, 5:10 PM

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fading mica I feel your pain.. I am starting to grind gil on the side, maybe that will be fa...

It's wqy way too expensive rn

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Maybe not for some veteran who has few hundred millions

drowsy belfry Feb 5, 2021, 5:11 PM

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playdead 14 more ruuuuuns

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gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 5:11 PM

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For as hard as it is to get right now in a decent timeframe I'm surprised it's not more

radiant pollen Feb 5, 2021, 5:11 PM

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i got absolutely 0 from my 15 DB relic farm

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except orchestrion rolls

ember forum Feb 5, 2021, 5:12 PM

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Yeqh, I can't dwell in those waters

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I am no crafter I barely can afford gyr abania

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Let alone 30m hair :/

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Guess my only option is to grind haha

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I just hope I can get it before I receive 50 DR clear achievemtn XD

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What am I doing with ny life...

radiant pollen Feb 5, 2021, 5:13 PM

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there was someone here this morning with like 45 DR clears and no hair :(

ember forum Feb 5, 2021, 5:13 PM

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Oh godd

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I did not need to hear that dx

radiant pollen Feb 5, 2021, 5:14 PM

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ember forum I hobestly can play DR now with ny eyes closed

this was me also

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i ended up watching netflix while doing it

ember forum Feb 5, 2021, 5:14 PM

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Did u get it?

radiant pollen Feb 5, 2021, 5:15 PM

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nah but I finished my relic at least

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hair was a side thing which would have been nice

ember forum Feb 5, 2021, 5:15 PM

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Yeah it looks nice or u oyld make some gil off of it, i should probably start relic quest too since I already run it this much

spiral mica Feb 5, 2021, 5:16 PM

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Can you get the gold coins from DR normal?

radiant pollen Feb 5, 2021, 5:17 PM

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now I feel like I want to farm it more but then I remember every run is like 45minutes

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i think so but it's rare

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you can get a bunch from the weekly quest

spiral mica Feb 5, 2021, 5:18 PM

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so 3 per week guaranteed from repeatable quest, in normal mode

radiant pollen Feb 5, 2021, 5:19 PM

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you get silver coins from normal which you can turn into gold

spiral mica Feb 5, 2021, 5:19 PM

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100 to 1 eh?

radiant pollen Feb 5, 2021, 5:19 PM

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yeah

spiral mica Feb 5, 2021, 5:19 PM

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for some reason i ony got 17 on my first run

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so thats...weird

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 5:19 PM

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A gold coin can drop in the chest at the end but that'd be the last thing you want

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If you got 17 you missed a chest

spiral mica Feb 5, 2021, 5:20 PM

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fak

autumn heron Feb 5, 2021, 5:27 PM

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5 weeks to get a full set

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Not that bad in retrospect

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Thats shorter than getting the tome gear

radiant pollen Feb 5, 2021, 5:27 PM

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quicker than that if you turn in notes for silver coins

proper zealot Feb 5, 2021, 5:31 PM

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I'm assuming that only Savage would drop the materials to trade for augment materials?

odd yoke Feb 5, 2021, 5:33 PM

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Savage drops the plates to buy the law augments

wary pond Feb 5, 2021, 5:37 PM

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gonna do savage in 23 mins

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im gonna stream too if people like to watch

wintry vault Feb 5, 2021, 5:38 PM

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good luck~

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 5:38 PM

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YESSSSS

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Get fucked Gogo

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 5:45 PM

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Hmm? I don't remember that achievement

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 5:45 PM

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You have to beat him in under 7 minutes without taking any vuln stacks

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Also unlocks the new weapon

odd yoke Feb 5, 2021, 5:48 PM

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https://streamable.com/skwf39

Streamable

Streamable Video

▶ Play video

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Looks so weird when you're just fucking standing on the back

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 5:49 PM

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Yes, that is a bit odd

wary pond Feb 5, 2021, 5:50 PM

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https://youtube.com/watch?v=bjjcxB0Tx_c

YouTube

abd zbd

Delubrum Reginae Savage Prog

▶ Play video

forest magnet Feb 5, 2021, 5:56 PM

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how much do u wanna wager it's Misija of all people who saves Mikoto during that flash forward

tulip glade Feb 5, 2021, 5:57 PM

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forest magnet how much do u wanna wager it's Misija of all people who saves Mikoto during that...

That was the first thing I thought when I saw it. Misija is going to be another Fordola

forest magnet Feb 5, 2021, 5:57 PM

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and they've already established Misija can see them too sooooo

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the fordola parallels keep happening

tardy ingot Feb 5, 2021, 5:58 PM

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playdead

wet crown Feb 5, 2021, 6:06 PM

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There is no way Misija will live though

forest magnet Feb 5, 2021, 6:07 PM

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why is that

random anvil Feb 5, 2021, 6:09 PM

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She has a synthetic echo, betrayed her kind, and her captors desperately believe they can turn around to do good.

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wonder where we've seen that before

forest magnet Feb 5, 2021, 6:09 PM

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kidanpped person whom she got echo from

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 6:09 PM

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Plot twist

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Fordola is the one that kills Misija

random anvil Feb 5, 2021, 6:10 PM

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pogianger

unique verge Feb 5, 2021, 6:10 PM

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Just to complete the meme

random anvil Feb 5, 2021, 6:10 PM

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it'll end up just being more queer-baiting

forest magnet Feb 5, 2021, 6:11 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

Tenor

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fordola when misija joins fordola group

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 6:15 PM

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Misija will become shemhazai

tulip glade Feb 5, 2021, 6:16 PM

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Lakshmi gets summoned in Gangos and Misija breaks out of prison to save everyone

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5.55 relic story. Calling it now

tardy ingot Feb 5, 2021, 6:21 PM

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Does anyone know if you get replicas of the relic weapons second stage?

severe brook Feb 5, 2021, 6:21 PM

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Menenius steals Save The Queen and uses it to become a version of Zalera, as others have theorized

pseudo umbra Feb 5, 2021, 6:25 PM

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any videos of how the stat selection prt works

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of the relic

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 6:31 PM

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does anyone have an average time for the alliance raids?

pulsar current Feb 5, 2021, 6:32 PM

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15mins for a standard run of the first two CT raids

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queue times may vary tho

pseudo umbra Feb 5, 2021, 6:33 PM

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or 10 minutes with full BLU

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 6:33 PM

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I was gonna ask that

final isle Feb 5, 2021, 6:33 PM

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if you can find a premade it's gonna be faster yeah, especially with a bunch of BLUs(assuming they have the good spells)

pseudo umbra Feb 5, 2021, 6:39 PM

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But yeah. how exactly does the stat selection part of the relic work?

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Is it randomized, selectable?

radiant pollen Feb 5, 2021, 6:42 PM

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selectable

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you choose 3 stats and how many points you want in each stat

odd yoke Feb 5, 2021, 6:43 PM

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Wuts the cap

radiant pollen Feb 5, 2021, 6:43 PM

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you get a bit over 1k points and it's like 510 cap per stat

pulsar yacht Feb 5, 2021, 6:51 PM

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1174 total substat i believe

pseudo umbra Feb 5, 2021, 6:51 PM

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okay so immensely less painful then eureka?

pulsar yacht Feb 5, 2021, 6:52 PM

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More anima than eureka/diadem stat roulette

pseudo umbra Feb 5, 2021, 6:52 PM

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thank fucking god

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eureka was super painful

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especially with having to roll multiple times to get a higher stat cap

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 7:06 PM

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Got the hair after 29 runs... i want to cry

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i dont understand why the drop rate is so low

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probably to force people to run it over palace of the dead for relic

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well it worked on me, still gonna get 50 clears tho, just for a checkmark

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the funny thing is there are people spammign it now for the hair

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before gettign to that stage in relic quest

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wait, you have to do it only when quest is active

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jphWut

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ah, does not matter, got the hair, time wasted not pointlessly

elfin plover Feb 5, 2021, 7:31 PM

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2 questions. is it true that the 2nd phase of this relic step (18 & 18) only needs to be done once and future relics won't need it? and 2, is POTD not a 100% drop rate in phase 3?

gloomy shale Feb 5, 2021, 7:31 PM

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can you only put materia V on 70 gear?

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err I mean VI

ember forum Feb 5, 2021, 7:32 PM

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Omg u lucky fox

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I want hair T.Tttt

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Hiw many runs?

odd yoke Feb 5, 2021, 7:34 PM

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gloomy shale can you only put materia V on 70 gear?

Yes

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Tier 8s need i430 minimum

ember forum Feb 5, 2021, 7:35 PM

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gaunt star well it worked on me, still gonna get 50 clears tho, just for a checkmark

Gimme ue blessing I beg u

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I'm currently going to be on 25th run

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Still nothing

vagrant sinew Feb 5, 2021, 7:36 PM

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what is wrong with you people lmao

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25 runs

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 7:36 PM

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ember forum Gimme ue blessing I beg u

from the bottom of my heart i hope you get it, because i felt overjoyed after getting it

vagrant sinew Feb 5, 2021, 7:36 PM

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I've done like 4 runs so far, I do 1 a day

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 7:36 PM

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jphPog

vagrant sinew Feb 5, 2021, 7:36 PM

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I got 2 orchestrions from DR so far

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first run I got the final boss theme

ember forum Feb 5, 2021, 7:36 PM

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Thanks!! Ill do 2-3 more today and hope

coral kite Feb 5, 2021, 7:37 PM

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elfin plover 2 questions. is it true that the 2nd phase of this relic step (18 & 18) only nee...

PoTD runs aren't guaranteed, Reginae runs are the guaranteed drop to the step I believe

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which makes sense given the time investment diffference

elfin plover Feb 5, 2021, 7:37 PM

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thanks. and what about the 2nd phase where we have to do 18 runs each of HW and SB raids?

final isle Feb 5, 2021, 7:38 PM

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also potd tests have been kinda meh I think, everyone I've seen who "tested" it ran 1-10 or 51-60 more or less

coral kite Feb 5, 2021, 7:38 PM

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No idea if it's a 1 time deal or not

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personally

final isle Feb 5, 2021, 7:38 PM

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it's unclear if for example 151+ is 100%, or if it's the same random chance for any floor

coral kite Feb 5, 2021, 7:38 PM

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But, I mean, it probably is since the quest isn't a repeatable step

final isle Feb 5, 2021, 7:38 PM

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I've seen several reports it's only 1time for the 18 things yeah

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some guy on reddit showed "proof" but not really proof since he hasn't cleared his first relic yet

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but he's on 3rd step, and using a 2nd class, he can't get 2nd step anymore, it instantly puts him on 3rd step again

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so it seems for future relics you just need the 15 CT and 15potd/dr

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 7:39 PM

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fate areas full of blu mages again now.its hillarious seeing the fates get nuked to oblivion

elfin plover Feb 5, 2021, 7:40 PM

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any idea of the drop rate in potd?

radiant pollen Feb 5, 2021, 7:57 PM

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Low

vagrant sinew Feb 5, 2021, 8:12 PM

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from what I heard, every set of floors can drop the item, but only 50 and 100 are guaranteed? still not fully sure on the details.

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tfw void ark and rabanastre queues are so quick that I don't have any time to do the fates lmao

wary pond Feb 5, 2021, 8:26 PM

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ok we did 2 hours of savage

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we got boss 1 to 30% enrage

agile stratus Feb 5, 2021, 8:27 PM

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I want in on the savage patDam

wary pond Feb 5, 2021, 8:27 PM

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we had 102 deaths

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yikes

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we did 497k dps

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but boss need 700k dps

agile stratus Feb 5, 2021, 8:28 PM

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Does the savage drop gold gabriel?

wary pond Feb 5, 2021, 8:28 PM

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idk

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not beaten queen savage yet

radiant pollen Feb 5, 2021, 8:29 PM

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normal drop i think

agile stratus Feb 5, 2021, 8:29 PM

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I heard you get a Cerberus mount from savage

wary pond Feb 5, 2021, 8:29 PM

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yes

vagrant sinew Feb 5, 2021, 8:37 PM

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cerberus mount is for 1st time DR savage clear yes

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I assume both savages share loot drops so

wintry vault Feb 5, 2021, 8:39 PM

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wary pond we got boss 1 to 30% enrage

that's pretty good

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just cut down on deaths, use your banners/fonts

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you'll kill it 😄

lilac crest Feb 5, 2021, 8:54 PM

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Lmao

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Damn

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DR savage seems like it will be an extreme pain

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:01 PM

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The stat system kinda blows

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You're locked to 4 substats

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So if the weapon is det/pie/sps for example

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Ur locked out of crit

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Im only going off of what my friend's shown me for 1 weapon so maybe it doesnt carry across all of them

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But

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open verge Feb 5, 2021, 9:04 PM

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Finished all my void arks

wet mountain Feb 5, 2021, 9:04 PM

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Nice

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 9:04 PM

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How long are the ivalice runs

wet mountain Feb 5, 2021, 9:05 PM

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21mins

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The first one

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 9:05 PM

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soulsurrender

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With BLU?

wet mountain Feb 5, 2021, 9:05 PM

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Dunno about blue

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 9:05 PM

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Think I’ll do 5 a day for ivalice

wet mountain Feb 5, 2021, 9:05 PM

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Regular que is 21mins to finish

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 9:05 PM

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yoshiPain I’m taking a break for today tho screw that

wet mountain Feb 5, 2021, 9:05 PM

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I've done all step 2 so yeppie

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 9:06 PM

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Nice

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How’s potd?

wet mountain Feb 5, 2021, 9:06 PM

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Just need to do 255 CT and 255 reganie

main pilot Feb 5, 2021, 9:06 PM

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Which crystal tower raid are people queuing up for? For the relic. Syrcus?

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 9:06 PM

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Lota was fast for me

main pilot Feb 5, 2021, 9:06 PM

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Oh ok, I didn't know which one was the fastest.

wet mountain Feb 5, 2021, 9:07 PM

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You can do blue mage it finished it in 8-10min syrcus tower

vagrant sinew Feb 5, 2021, 9:07 PM

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syrcus is fastest imo

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:07 PM

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Ppl are doing syrcus yea

wet mountain Feb 5, 2021, 9:07 PM

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If you have good blue mages

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Lol

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8mins was my fastest time

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:07 PM

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Lota is kinda bad cuz u cant attack the thanatos boss

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Unless ur alliance is astral

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Wod is horrendous

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Syrcus p good

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Only part u get held up at is xande

main pilot Feb 5, 2021, 9:08 PM

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Alright thanks, I'll prob try both and time them.

wet mountain Feb 5, 2021, 9:08 PM

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If you spin xande around endlessly you skip mechanics

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:09 PM

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Spin?

main pilot Feb 5, 2021, 9:09 PM

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Because I'm pretty sure people were spamming syrcus for the moogle tomestone events so it's the fastest one.

primal basalt Feb 5, 2021, 9:09 PM

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speen

maiden lodge Feb 5, 2021, 9:09 PM

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gaunt star You're locked to 4 substats

It's always:
Crit
[Spellspeed/Skillspeed] based on if you're primarily weaponskill or spell-based job
Determination
[Direct Hit/Piety/Tenacity] based on if you're a dps/healer/tank respectively.

vagrant sinew Feb 5, 2021, 9:09 PM

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nah ppl were spamming aurum vale

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with blue mages

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5min per run of AV

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:09 PM

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maiden lodge It's always: Crit [Spellspeed/Skillspeed] based on if you're primarily weaponski...

Being locked out of dhit as a healer feels pretty bad

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Sadge

subtle pasture Feb 5, 2021, 9:10 PM

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i-its... not a healer stat...

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never has been

maiden lodge Feb 5, 2021, 9:10 PM

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gaunt star Being locked out of dhit as a healer feels pretty bad

None of your healer gear has direct hit on it.

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:10 PM

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Yea

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But my melds tend to be crit/dhit unless im remembering wrong

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And you lose the materia slots

maiden lodge Feb 5, 2021, 9:11 PM

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Losing the materia slots costs you 0.5% damage from direct hits. Big fucking whoop.

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What do you get by being able to max determination?

subtle pasture Feb 5, 2021, 9:11 PM

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iirc for the most part like, dh and det are near enough, plus det hits your heals

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just the min/max pulls DH ahead, bc it's a dummy thicc stat

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:13 PM

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I get it probably affects very little unless ur nitpicking but still

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 9:13 PM

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Man I want the tome event back

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:13 PM

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i have edenmorn anyway so it doesn't affect me that much

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 9:13 PM

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Especially with ultra vibration

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Aurum vale would be instant

coral kite Feb 5, 2021, 9:14 PM

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True, tomestone even would be cool

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:14 PM

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Piety is just a shit stat to have

coral kite Feb 5, 2021, 9:14 PM

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Finally something I can feel good about burning my old tomes on

maiden lodge Feb 5, 2021, 9:15 PM

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To contrast, the equivalent has 515 one secondary, 361 second +120 from materia slots for 515+381=896 total secondary stats, vs 1167 on the relic, for a difference of 271 secondary stats you get free on the relic

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:15 PM

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True

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The extra numbers are nice

maiden lodge Feb 5, 2021, 9:16 PM

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So the question is 'is losing 0.5% from less direct hit feelsbad when you get more than 1% from the extra determination?'

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Math doesn't care if it 'feelsbad'.

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:17 PM

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🤔

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I mean yea

maiden lodge Feb 5, 2021, 9:17 PM

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And this will carry over to the final relic.

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:17 PM

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But getting locked out of it for piety still sucks

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Same with tenacity

maiden lodge Feb 5, 2021, 9:18 PM

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Then take spell speed

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:18 PM

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Obv

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515 relic beats emerald in all cases, no question

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It's even pretty close to 530 tome weapon for drk at least

wet mountain Feb 5, 2021, 9:20 PM

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Relics are for glamour for me anyways

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:20 PM

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It's definitely not an efficient alternative

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Im only building cuz theres a chance it'll be bis for ultimate

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But damn i hope the next/final step glows get better

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This step is so ugly overall

vagrant sinew Feb 5, 2021, 9:21 PM

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wut

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rdm relic atm is probably the best looking one

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📎 unknown.png

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nothing wrong with more simple designs on relics imo
as long as they're not TOO simple like war anima

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I hate war anima haha

ember forum Feb 5, 2021, 9:23 PM

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I wqnt relic, but i can't farm both loathsome memories and DR

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:24 PM

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Oh i dont mean tbe actual weapons (except bard)

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I mean the glow

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 9:24 PM

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I like the bard one

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Looks like is a MH weapon to me

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The monk one is also good because they are gloves

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:24 PM

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Tonfas are ugly

vagrant sinew Feb 5, 2021, 9:24 PM

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what's wrong with the glows

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wtf

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you take that back

rain onyx Feb 5, 2021, 9:24 PM

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I like how the BLM staff opens up

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:24 PM

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The glows are just

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Bad

vagrant sinew Feb 5, 2021, 9:24 PM

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we NEED more tonfas

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glow on tonfas was bad

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:25 PM

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In comparison to last step

vagrant sinew Feb 5, 2021, 9:25 PM

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but tonfas themselves

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make me NUT

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:25 PM

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Last step was mostly good

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The healer weapons werent just glowsticks

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 9:25 PM

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I like the whm weapon this time too

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Maybe the only one

ember forum Feb 5, 2021, 9:26 PM

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Ugh!

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:26 PM

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They were finer and had designs and shit

ember forum Feb 5, 2021, 9:26 PM

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Got queens warrior tabletop piece on last chest XD

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Dont tell me I wasted all my luck on that shit

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:26 PM

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The glows are just shapeless vfx now

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Theyre not refined

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Its just blobby (?)

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Drg weapon is the only one that looks good this step imo

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Step and weapon

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 9:27 PM

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glows are stupid

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:27 PM

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Me reading Save the Queen field notes: OK but why is it a BDSM motorcycle

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 9:27 PM

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I don’t care about glows they all look bad

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:27 PM

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And monk too maybe

ember forum Feb 5, 2021, 9:27 PM

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Tbh i still like ARR relic best, for example Nirvana looks nice, it looks fancy, but not too glowy either

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:27 PM

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Yeah

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Glowsticks are just lame

ember forum Feb 5, 2021, 9:27 PM

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Anima lux are meh, way too glowy qnd colors are bad

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:27 PM

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I hate the eureka final steps

ember forum Feb 5, 2021, 9:27 PM

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I like sindri over sindri lux

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Probably the obly anima weapon I like

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 9:28 PM

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I like the ninja weapons

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:28 PM

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Khadalanda and Cronus (and w/e the bard one is called) are the ones i like the most

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 9:28 PM

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Literally just a lightsaber

gaunt star Feb 5, 2021, 9:28 PM

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Arr has some decent ones

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Eureka's ones are just bleh

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 9:29 PM

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The monk designer deserves a raise

vagrant sinew Feb 5, 2021, 9:29 PM

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I did eureka for the rdm weapon

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!iglam brunello eureka

lusty shadowBOT Feb 5, 2021, 9:29 PM

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**Brunello Eureka** **:** Red Mage's Arm

vagrant sinew Feb 5, 2021, 9:29 PM

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such a good weapon

open verge Feb 5, 2021, 9:29 PM

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Ok that’s good

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I don’t even know the monk relic weapons from eureka

vagrant sinew Feb 5, 2021, 9:30 PM

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I want the pyros mnk weapon

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!iglam pyros knuckles

lusty shadowBOT Feb 5, 2021, 9:30 PM

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**Pyros Knuckles** **:** Pugilist's Arm

ember forum Feb 5, 2021, 9:31 PM

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I want normal looking rapier with minimal glow

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I bet zeta rapier wouks look cool if there was one