and doesn't have the repeatable icon
#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
lime igloo
some people have been suggesting you might only have to do it once
(it's also the least reasonable step by far)
odd yoke
So the first step gives you a 515 weapon then
lime igloo
arthars/violent/xeno/rin have seen it too
odd yoke
Clears soon(tm)
odd yoke
Never played wow so 
marsh osprey
anyone knows how many things i need for 2nd relic step
and
if sb fates have 100% droprate
fallow adder
18, not 100%
brisk quail
Gyr Abania/Othard Fates?
Oh yeah. It's bluemage time
marsh osprey
oof
lime igloo
it's absolutely not faster to do the FATEs unless you have a big group to zerg them with
especially since you can also use BLU in the alliance raids
warm copper
The one problem though is that the rate to get them from FATE's are abysmally poor from my attempts
A friend of mine too like 7 or so fates to get one memory
pseudo umbra
yo, question about the relic for anyone that completed it
are the stats actually customizable, or is it rng hell again?
tame cove
digital forge
Fastest is 51-60
thorny sleet
don't they only drop from floors 41-50 and 91-100 in potd
open verge
dim sigil
I have heard it only drops on the 50th and 100th
autumn heron
I heard someone say yo dont have to repeat step 2 for other relics
any truth to that
lime igloo
people are saying that without evidence
to actually know that for sure
you would have had to do 66 total alliance raids
autumn heron
dim sigil
We're not going to really know for sure until more and more people get through it at this point the majority haven't finished even one
drowsy belfry
I'll know tomorrow
lime igloo
you'd need a second first stage weapon too
dim sigil
Dr/potd tgo
drowsy belfry
I could still view the repeatable quest
dim sigil
You had plenty of time to do with first stage
lime igloo
that means nothing
the Atma quest wasn't repeatable either
but you still had to do it
drowsy belfry
Okay? I'm just saying
I'll be able to tell tomorrow
I doubt it
BUT it is weird you don't even get the weapon for finishing the quest
dim sigil
The story for it is kind of mix it imply that it's a one-time thing
The whole you do this and then she's taking it back
drowsy belfry
It does
So I'm not holding out hope
I am entirely prepared to do this again again again for another 2000 runs
BUT, I'll still go check it out
dim sigil
I'm getting my tome weapon next week and I'm not even going to get it at the same job I'm doing relic on just for the sake so I can actually physically equipped with stupid Relic that I worked for
thin crypt
when you want the cerberus mount but dont want to do bozja
dim sigil
The raids are fun tho
thin crypt
i went in to bozja did one fate and got offline
unique verge
I mean.....if you cant even be fucked with doing Bozja, then you're really not gonna want the timesink of savage.
unique verge
Again - if thats all it takes to burn you out, Savage aint for you bud
lunar token
Savage stuff generally isn't my forte
lunar token
Tried doing Alphascape 4.0 savage for Omega Trident but that generally didn't pan out well
brisk quail
Okay
But WHY
Is there two seprate weapons
Why not just... build off the first?
The models were fine, great even
Why just scrap it for a new set of models?
torn mortar
cause WHM had a freaking stick and MCH has a super soaker
and they've done that in every other relic as well, you can get dummy glams of previous stages
wet crown
So what the fuck is the whole list of things you need to do for the new relic step?
I only see bits and pieces
torn mortar
it's in the pins
wet crown
People on reddit said the second step doesn't need to be repeated but what about the other two?
unreal wadi
@wet crown first and third are required
it seems
@brisk quail this your first relic?
brisk quail
Nah. I just wished the PLD sword didn't look so fuckinf weird
coral kite
Kill me...new teams couldn't beat CLL, we kept getting hit by those party ending missles
brisk quail
I mean they did good with one. Bad with another
What's to say they won't a screw up the final?
It'll just be shiny glow
Not a cool base model
Just oo shiny
unreal wadi
idk, i like the law gnb
wet crown
Guess I'll actually get the tomestone weapons for once
vagrant sinew
ngl I like how simple they look
they look simple but they look like actual weapons
unlike the finished war anima
!iglam minos lux
lusty shadowBOT
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vagrant sinew
looks like someone lit a level 10 axe on fire
dim sigil
I believe you can get replicas of every step if you want it for glam
unreal wadi
Ragnarok looks better
lusty shadowBOT
Images of glamour items by Gamer Escape.
vagrant sinew
yeah that looks like an actual combat axe too
brisk quail
I will say tho...
vagrant sinew
like a proper endgame axe
brisk quail
The fending law set
Spicy
I shoulda farmed more mettle
Now I'm at 12 and just hanging out
I needed to farm alot more cure iv and arise
vagrant sinew
I want the fuckin rdm relic so bad
it's a really good competitor for best rdm weapon glam
wet crown
True. Still love dyed Murgleis Anemos though
vagrant sinew
even without the glow it's so good
wind orbit
That's a nice model
wet crown
Yes, Murgleis Anemos
unreal wadi
I like the Monk SHB relic
Reminds me of
Pyros Gloves
Probably because im a sucker for fighting gloves
Samsara was meh
But the law monk weapon looks good
gaunt star
Sfia group seems confident they'll clear DRS this run
vagrant sinew
!iglam pyros knuckles
lusty shadowBOT
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vagrant sinew
they'd fit with my mnk glam so well
digital forge
they're real good
digital forge
source: i've had them since 4.5
unreal wadi
When the SAM relic weapon
dim sigil
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
digital forge
dyes real well too
vagrant sinew
god I was about to mention that
wet crown
best MNK glamour is still Ultimate Kettle Nexus
vagrant sinew
it legit is a 1000 degree knife
unreal wadi
Can a 3000 degree celsius knife cut through a garlean challenge
vagrant sinew
I'm working on rdm atm
unreal wadi
because of the revolver barrel
vagrant sinew
probably will go for dnc or ast next
lusty shadowBOT
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unreal wadi
the revolver makes it worthwhile
somber storm
it's a 1k degree knife
Jetstream Sam's katana
vagrant sinew
current ast relic would fit my glam so well as well
bc my healer glam is grey and purple
vagrant sinew
which is exactly why I use canopus lux atm
I didn't like it at first when I saw it but then it grew on me
unreal wadi
Canopus is peak
lunar token
I honestly love astrologan's arms
Also now that glamour gets brought up I want to play around with that myself sometime
vagrant sinew
I got all the animas recently just bc I wanted to
been stockpiling the materials for months now
shit yknow what I should prob start doing
HW fates to finish my first bozja steps, while queueing for the alliance raids
also
feels so good
unreal wadi
vagrant sinew
I still need to take pics with the canopus and deathlocke luxes
so I can make a proper collage of all the relics
the earliest one that I have is my nin anima
and the blm lux fits so well with the law's order top too
like, even if you got rid of the glow
it'd look really nice
vagrant sinew
unreal wadi
i was hoping for a similar case like idealized
when gnb, pld & drk were running ilvl 499 gearsets
brisk quail
someone in my FC did a comparison
Bruh
Really?
That's bullshit
Here I thought it'd be good gear
brisk quail
Tanks were shafted on good headsets
Now they're shafted on good gear sets
unreal wadi
headpiece
brisk quail
Just no good stats for you
Every tank gets det and tenacity substats
Have fun
2 materia slots
No overmeld
unreal wadi
i cant even replace
my edenmete legs
because they're objectively the stats I need for BiS
brisk quail
Just tank things
unreal wadi
my next replacement is edenmorn legs
brisk quail
rough cairn
holy crap
rough cairn
I'm so sorry
gaunt star
Mount?
rough cairn
yea the gabriel recolor
gaunt star
I've run 16, most with a friend. He's got a gold coin but that's it.
rough cairn
yeah I got an orchestrion roll from one of the mid chests and uhhh a gold coin
nothing super interesting tho
ember forum
It must he super rare, man what I'd give for thqt hair
brisk quail
What hair?
subtle pasture
an update on bozja things-
...I still haven't gotten a single Loathsome from CE's 
did get 5 levels on pally tho
dim sigil
It must he super rare, man what I'd give for thqt hair
Gil
subtle pasture
and the 200k mettle I needed for r15
ember forum
Um no way, 24-30m gil
gaunt star
Too cheap in my opinion I cannot believe they are letting the market go so low
ember forum
Maybe
Depending if ur new or veteran
Someone whos new wouldnt have 20m to spare
Or fresh should I say, cause u need to finish a lot of stuff before u can even get into DR
I think I'll rather leave my soul in DR than paying 20m xd
gaunt star
That hair is definitely gonna be one of the hardest to get after the runs stop
lime igloo
if you get extra hairs
put them in a retainer for like a year
then sell for big bucks
warm copper
Y'all know about the drop rate of memories when trying to do fates?
dreamy bane
Its faster to do void ark and rabanste
14 fates 1 memory
Plus you only have to do 2nd stage once, from wat i heard its not repeatable
dreamy bane
Yup do 2nd stage once and ur basically done for all relics
grave raft
Plus you only have to do 2nd stage once, from wat i heard its not repeatable
so when you repeat the relics, its basically step 1 then step 3?
warm copper
So then you only really need to do CT then?
dreamy bane
Ye 1 and 3 stage every relic
wary pond
CT is still crap step
warm copper
Better than the other ones tho
lime igloo
Yup do 2nd stage once and ur basically done for all relics
there is zero evidence of this
warm copper
Can anyone confirm this? Just to make sure
lime igloo
nobody can, because nobody's finished a relic AND done the first step of another one
it's just wishful thinking right now
serene rune
well the quest The Resistance Remembers does indeed look like a 1 and done quest when i look at in the journal
serene rune
true
lime igloo
and yet you had to do it for every single job
open verge
People bitching about the relic Lol
serene rune
well we will find out eventually
open verge
LOL
coral kite
aight, so what's the best way to be hunting for mettle anyways? I feel like i'm chipppin away at a brick wall with a spoon
serene rune
lol yeah i'm not bitching, just was following the conversation and decided to double check that in the journal anyway
rain onyx
anyone found out about customizing substats?
Supposedly you just pick them? I only saw it on a JP Twitter post though
coral kite
Trying do fates and CEs as they come up but it just doesn't feel like a lot
wary pond
@rain onyx rip so no 1500 crit steps
everyone will 2nd step later
and we will find out
serene rune
also...the rewards for The Resistance Remembers does not list the weapon as the reward
it only lists gil
so yeah when we can if we get confirmation it would be awesome if that is the case
wary pond
@rain onyx u got link though?
rain onyx
lime igloo
I like how useless "RARE" and "EX" are compared to "UNIQUE" and "UNTRADEABLE"
this says a lot about the game's design philosophy
serene crest
It's more of a cultural thing, really.
pulsar current
for which part?
grave raft
do 4 BLU man party works in CT?
lime igloo
you can do an entire alliance of blue mages
unique verge
Today has been a good day in Bozja. 5 CLL clears with no issue.
abstract cedar
curious, has any team cleared the savage 48 yet? : o
gaunt star
sfia group got 14% queen enrage
unique verge
Ah, that's pretty close then
gaunt star
They were pretty confident they were going to clear on next run and then died to hotcold enrage
unique verge
lol
gaunt star
Almost back to hotcold now
unique verge
Much respect to these trailblazer who will write guides for the rest of us
gaunt star
idk how much longer they gonna run tonight, callers sound like they're getting close to IRL enrage
lilac crest
Is the savage actually a savage
Or is it more like an extreme with 48 people
Or even easier than extreme
Just cant fuck up
gaunt star
Well, the savage has yet to be cleared I think? So that should give an impression on how difficult it is
lilac crest
Considering theres like idk 6 fights there?
I think theyโre going a pretty good pace
gaunt star
It's more EX mechs
gaunt star
After the first clear people will start making more guides
But pretty hard-hitting and on the complicated side for EX
lilac crest
200k more 
gaunt star
I just need one clear and then never touch the raid again
Some might say savage but I say EX because there aren't really any skip rope mechs
gaunt star
If this aether group is right about their skills WF will be in like 20 mins
lilac crest
gaunt star
And they're not exactly smashing enrage
lilac crest
I mean their gear dont matter there anyway
Just run all warriors
Ez clap
Warrior is so strong in bozja
Can literally be highest dps
unique verge
I would say that its absolutely harder than "EX" fights
unique verge
Irregular tanks also are kinda.....a liability in there
lilac crest
What did the new stuff give
gaunt star
Stuff hits crazy hard
lilac crest
unique verge
Like if you're gonna DPS on a tank in savage you'll use Martialist
lilac crest
Right savage
odd yoke
Holmgang every raid wide
gaunt star
They literally have 2 tanks on every party just to mitigate raidwides
unique verge
Irregular is just gonna get you murdered
lilac crest
Wait is irregular softer than a dps with a dps buff potion
unique verge
Yes
lilac crest
Looks like Iโm going drg then when I try it 
unique verge
Irregular is 200% damage taken. You'll start getting oneshot by some raidwides in Savage
lilac crest
Guess I levelled a war for nothing 
unique verge
just use martialist
lilac crest
Or is it about the same
unique verge
its not that much weaker
gaunt star
MCH IIRC
gaunt star
Mch can focus if
I think their lost slash hits harder
Ig*
Yea
But good SAM is the best possibly
lilac crest
Wait 1/48 does the duel?
lilac crest
Lmaooooo
What actions is he carrying?
Font and slash?
Thats what I usually bring
gaunt star
Actually not sure
lilac crest
Is there a new really good lost action
gaunt star
not slash
lilac crest
I know font should be one and maybe the no healing?
gaunt star
620k midare
gaunt star
Looks like he's not using gambler either despite having double hp
gaunt star
it's not
lilac crest
Alright imma test out double buffs
gaunt star
It's for memes
lilac crest
gaunt star
Buffs are stronger
gaunt star
Also Sfia chat said Flarestar is bugged but idk exactly how
Said the dmg from it goes to everyone on act
But idk if that means everyone gets the full dps from it, if it's divided 8 ways and added, or divided 48 ways and then added
But he has DNC partner over the SAM because of it
lilac crest
Whats flarestar
gaunt star
SAM legit holding 50k dps
lilac crest
Oh a new lost action
gaunt star
Aoe 350 pot + 350 dot for 1 min, boss can only be affected by one at a time
7k potency button that lines up with buffs
And some of the fights are multiple targets so you can multidot with it
lilac crest
Thats so fucking wild 
gaunt star
also apparently affected by enochian
oak pike
is that a DR run?
odd yoke
Savage
lilac crest
Only reason I dont is cause lost slash
odd yoke
From Sfias group
gaunt star
^
lilac crest
Kinda crazy seeing every dps doing 10k and above
gaunt star
"How do we make it clear that this boss means business"
"Robo-BDSM motorcycle?"
"Genius!"
lilac crest
On normals Iโm literally the only one
gaunt star
That's cuz they're stealing credit from Sfia's flarestar
lilac crest
Can you link the stream
gaunt star
lilac crest
Thanks
gaunt star
They on last boss rn
lilac crest
Damn they using resistance potions ๐ณ
This boss means business
Imagine if this was the door boss
๐
gaunt star
mmm think this might be another enrage
unique verge
Yeah alot of deaths
lilac crest
Def not puggable
rain onyx
Hotcold boss alone will fuck over everyone
Since thatโs a lot of personal responsibility and you canโt call that out
proper zealot
So, they introduced you to the new Blades in 5.35 then make you kill them off in 5.45
lime igloo
it's actually very puggable
proper zealot
lime igloo
there's not many ways for Johnny Dipshit to kill you, personally
the quality that makes fights unpuggable has to do with things like "if one person fucks up or dies the entire raid explodes"
swift rune
god, I am still so excited to see the Ifrit from FFXII make an appearance. This airship is so sick
lime igloo
like say Light Rampant
and that's basically why Ultimates are as hard as they are, too
Delubrum Savage, mechanically, doesn't really look much harder than an Extreme trial. just
there's 48 people, lol
once there are decent guides for this I'm sure the various BA Discord groups will have successful clears
gaunt star
yea
unique verge
Yes. When you die in there, you can only be res'd or exit the duty, you cant release to the start
gaunt star
that's why it hasn't been cleared yet
lilac crest
Holy fucking shit ๐
lilac crest
I dont wanna do this with pugs at all
gaunt star
It's like a very hard-hitting and punishing EX except it takes an hour+ between pulls
lilac crest
God
gaunt star
to prog one fight
also gonna do normal DR since I haven't done it yet for some reason
inb4 they clear before my NM finishes
unique verge
Normal is super easy if you know the mechs ahead of time.
unique verge
Hot/Cold and Bombs will fucking murder you if you dont know the fight though
proper zealot
Do people still die out of nowhere for normal
gaunt star
I'll be like where tf is the knockback during this mech
unique verge
Actually Pile of Cats
lilac crest
Nah not as much anymore
unique verge
Only watching savage might screw you
lilac crest
Its heavily telegraphed
unique verge
Bombs are different on savage
lilac crest
Youโll see it after you die
proper zealot
Because I spent my entire run on release day using Verraise instead of DPSing
gaunt star
mm
lilac crest
Crystal player
Thats why
Crystal only has
A limited amount of good players
Most are RP
proper zealot
Let me rephrase
lime igloo
honestly this is one of the coolest things they've ever done
unique verge
RP'ers are pretty much categorically awful at all games
proper zealot
Do people still die out of nowhere for normal
In Crystal
gaunt star
lmao
lilac crest
Use essence of beast if theres no healer
Thats what I did
Easily survived everything
proper zealot
I don't know if I want to bother with another DRN run or just go wait until people learn DRS
lilac crest
And still did highest dps
Didnt even use lost slash
People were that bad
Or do aetherweaver whm
I was also top dps 
Shit was disappointing ngl
Was ahead by 2k
unique verge
Profane WHM is fucking busted DPS
lilac crest
I use aetherweaver cause I got a shit ton of the pink ones for some reason
lime igloo
if you want a relic you'll have to do at least 15 runs lol
lime igloo
honestly it'll be fine for like
a few weeks
and then it will become even worse than week 1 once the competent people stop running it
lilac crest
I might farm it
lime igloo
after the last update
lilac crest
Yeah last update
lilac crest
I should farm it then
lime igloo
but you can't put DH on it if it's a tank or healer relic I think?
lime igloo
so BiS will still be the raid weapon for those jobs
lime igloo
yeah
lilac crest
lime igloo
you just need the quest active
unique verge
That was a 9% enrage right?
lime igloo
I was doing raids and FATEs on BLU
and getting drops
and yes
9% on Happy/Sfia's stream
unique verge
First clear within 24 hours then for sure
lime igloo
with honestly very few deaths
it feels like they might be missing something to me, but
unique verge
God i wish my cache looked like his
lmao
Dumbass me only started Bozja like 2-3 weeks ago
lime igloo
Arthars/Xeno/Rin are getting to Minotaur again now
if you wanna watch someone who might clear sooner
unique verge
Eh i'll honestly probably turn the stream off and go back to grinding soon
lime igloo
if the NA groups don't clear tonight tho, JP will get the clear
unique verge
I just wanted to get a look at wher ethings are
unique verge
Full clear by this time tomorrow for sure
lime igloo
yeah I honestly expect it to be cleared before the Announcement
gaunt star
Once the clears start coming and the guides roll out things will become smoother for everyone too
lime igloo
BA took less time, even though it was way harder to get back into it lol
gaunt star
Is there any VOD for a DRs clear?
unique verge
....
lime igloo
no one's cleared Savage yet
unique verge
how would that exist
We literally have been talking about how nobody has cleared it
i swear people dont read lmao
lime igloo
we've only seen them get to 9% on a boss that might not even be the last fight (tho it probably is)
rain onyx
Have they been killing the 1v1 every time now or ignoring to see what happens?
lime igloo
they've been killing it every time
unique verge
idk Wynne i just tuned in
gaunt star
Inb4 theres a phase 2
gaunt star
i swear people dont read lmao
Ever thought of the possibility of suddenly getting the question in your mind, quickly running to #retired-patch-6-3-discussion to write it while not looking previous conversations? I donโt think so
lime igloo
or maybe you can't open up the minotaur passage? not sure
either way you do need the 1v1
which is extremely funny to me
unique verge
The 1v1 is such a neat thing to put in
lime igloo
some of the mechanics even in the adds bits are great too
like how tanks have to kite the minotaurs in a circle because their autos give Doom
gaunt star
like how tanks have to kite the minotaurs in a circle because their autos give D...
shirks that one dps who was talking shit earlier in the raid
relics gonna be dope for old ultis
318 every substat
Or like... 318 318 318 250 or w/e you get
forest magnet
i guess that's why this step is grindy
gauranteed substats
compared to the other relic weapons which required grinding for the substats
gaunt star
hmmmmm
lime igloo
this is why -you- queue as healer lol
random anvil
Healers? pff, Beast essence is all i need
lime igloo
they might clear...? https://www.twitch.tv/arthars
timber lichen
did they clear DR savage yet
timber lichen
pog
odd yoke
Cleared
warm copper
They did it bois
timber lichen
now give me the strats so i can get cerberus
so i can throw myself at this thing for 5 hours
subtle pasture
The Queen savage does look fairly simple, tbh
in comparison, at least.
Queen's Edict tho 
rain onyx
Whatโs the savage version of that mechanic? 
Couldnโt watch the stream
Do you have to do legitimate chess moves like Knight and Bishop
odd yoke
There guards moving
subtle pasture
two stacks of Queen's Decree, and the entire raid needs to end up on one square
random anvil
only 1 safe spot? 
rain onyx
Omfg
subtle pasture
so you need to plan out oyour movement to end up there,
odd yoke
So you need to move to a safe location to dodge k ights moving
subtle pasture
while dodging the two soldiers, yeah
odd yoke
Then move to the one safe square
versed hill
Wow
lime igloo
it definitely comes across as a like
odd yoke
Biggest brain mechanic
lime igloo
"victory lap" sort of fight
versed hill
The chest can drop an armor piece?
next quarry
Are there any different rewards from normal besides Cerberus?
subtle pasture
the other one I didn't understand was sav Queen's Soldier and Queen's Knight
lime igloo
they're entirely different rewards
next quarry
Oh?
subtle pasture
bc I couldn't see the switcharoo on screen
lime igloo
no rewards are shared between normal and savage
odd yoke
It drops the augmented upgrades straight up
lime igloo
it can
it's also the only source for some logograms
and the only source for the tokens to buy the augment items
also the minion
subtle pasture
is Save the Princess sav only? 
subtle pasture
oh okay good
versed hill
Minion is probably same droprate as hair and gabriel
versed hill
In normal
timber lichen
youre telling me i have to think in savage
versed hill
You do need to maths
versed hill
Or eat one stack
timber lichen
ill eat the stack and dodge everything else
versed hill
Its 3 to doom in savage
lusty shadowBOT
subtle pasture
shoot, can't remember how it's formatted
onyx sundial
been in bozja long enough
subtle pasture
!buff cold brand +2
lusty shadowBOT
rain onyx
!buff movement edict: 3 squares
lusty shadowBOT
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rain onyx
Had to look it up
lusty shadowBOT
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next quarry
!buff Your Move: 4 squares
lusty shadowBOT
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random anvil
Disobedience
timber lichen
lime igloo
wasn't aware the minion -could- drop in normal, sorry
anyway, most of the people who cleared just now are probably gonna try and sell it so
now might be a good time to buy lol
lusty shadowBOT
forest magnet
I like how temperature mechanic is a lot like the math mechanic
rain onyx
!buff reversal of forces
lusty shadowBOT
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lime igloo
there's a lot of super clever mechanics here
subtle pasture
Aether Group 2, not that I have any idea what it is exactly
Arthar's and Xeno's? I think
lime igloo
the toxic streamer group lol
gaunt star
Chad gamers
pseudo umbra
so has is been confirmed the 18/18 step is one time only, or should i just prepare for constant cbt?
gaunt star
Confirmed
lime igloo
people can't accept the second step again
but I haven't seen anyone try to accept the third step for a second time
gaunt star
Im thinking about how u really need 47 other gamers to clear savage
gaunt star
Idk when I'll be able to clear considering crystals raid population is not the best
But we are going strong
gaunt star
Yes
lime igloo
try there
gaunt star
Im in the main 3, and doing an organised run w them on saturday
Its just the number of people tbh
lime igloo
yeah you have to rely on subs and stuff
that's how people did in back in the old days, right?
gaunt star
But as long as everyones a gamer and it doesnt get trapped by someone who wandered in who can't even press a damage button
It'll be fiiine
The level of co-ordination is pretty nutty
subtle pasture
make 'em the reflect peopel for the stagiomachy lord or w/e
gaunt star
I like minotaur
subtle pasture
considering there's a mecdh that's literally "eat the fire"
forest magnet
DR is a lot harder than BA though
Because DR has mechanics that cannot be called out
because they're unique to you
subtle pasture
yeah, Avowed is
oof.
Blade of Entropy looks very neat though,
is it each clone's cleaving 270 degrees?
gaunt star
I think it would be nice if they made it a bit less
People
Whilst also scaling the damage/difficulty
Idk, maybe that'll subtract from part of what makes it hard
But other than the very first party a couple hours after patch dropped, I've yet to see a party for savage fill
lime igloo
it just can't be impromptu
you're going to have to basically do 48-man statics
WF clear clip btw https://clips.twitch.tv/ThoughtfulSolidJellyfishCeilingCat
gloomy shale
how come it doesn't say how many memories of haunting or vexatious you need on the step?
lime igloo
so as to not remind you of how exhausting it is
gloomy shale
wait it does but it's at an unusual spot, just caught it
random anvil
i overheard someone said they were casting CureIV after every GCD
gaunt star
Finally finished DR 
Had to solo heal with cure 4 on rdm
I wanna do a run with as many buff roles as possible
While i do misery nuke whm build
My highest one was 492k crit, with a 516k dhit on banished-ghost miniboss
random anvil
i was in a party with 3 whms
one of them took ordained and lost font
was beating my SAM
odd yoke
@gaunt star i actually think the way the SAM is doing 51k dps is because of the 1v1 buff...i think if you look at his dps during the first boss its normal but after its fucking insane
zenith eagle
finished the relic tonight. 15 DR runs took me literally all day and not a single hair drop and only 1 gold coin drop. on the bright side i was able to accumulate 300 silver coins to exchange for 3 gold coins so i was able to grab 3 pieces of the judge armor as well
kindred meteor
I mean it's doable with 80 WAR so I could see it being doable on 70 BLU
rain onyx
You used Dragon Force and/or the TBN equivalent?
proper zealot
No, I was healing myself
rain onyx
Yeah you probably canโt tank it naked
proper zealot
I can with the Tank Mimicry
proper zealot
I can with the Tank Mimicry
But then the cone shaped lasers that happen right after would kill me
48k without Tank Mimicry or any mitigation
Pom Cure is sad without Healer Mimicry so I guess I should just stick to White Wind
I'm guessing SpS-oriented gear is better for the solo build
spice furnace
So would you guys say fates or raids are faster on the 2nd relic step?
unique verge
Raids are consistent, Fates are volatile.
You could complete it way faster with fates, or you could spend 10 times as long in fates
onyx sundial
Hmm id recommend queueing for raids while doing fates at the same time i guess
spice furnace
im guessing the fastest 2 are void ark and royal city?
lime igloo
rab, yeah
gloomy shale
wait I just read you don't need to do the second step for consecutive relics?
subtle pasture
I got the impression of it by the way the quest starts, tbh,
that it comes from Gerolt, not Zlatan's slide of relic lines,
and Raegana made it sound like the node just needs to make this repository once
but yeah I'll believe it when I see it
gloomy shale
well I guess I'll see after another 40 raids
lime igloo
32 more for me lol
shell merlin
how much POTD was it anyways
anyone find out now
also day 3 no hair drop
SE is a bitch
gaunt star
Almost 21st run now, no hair, nothing, its just this now
gaunt star
At least armour looks look. Heard that its based on FF12 antagonists
dim sigil
Since i cant use hlemts i lost interest bit they're really cool
somber storm
Can't be Judge of Wings from Revenant Wings
open blade
Eh, the fact that they're undyeable unless you complete a gigantic grind is a huge turn off
dim sigil
Since that's the only one i can use
gloomy shale
Is there something I can be getting while I'm grinding these raids
I guess maybe I can go for a HW relic
open blade
the poetics you get is useful for relics, yeah
gaunt star
Trying to get hair, feels like playing gacha
But there is no "pity counter", so its just pain all around
The delebrum loop is contemplating if you might actually get the hair or another item you can sell for it or if you're better off selling things you can make over time
But going by 75 runs across 4 people total the only things they've got was the minion and a gold coin
I should be asleep right now, but I wanna run another DR at a chance for hair...but then if the hair doesn't drop I'll want to run it again for a chance at hair
I did manage to get chocobo armour that i sold instantly for 1mil instead of 2.5 like other people did, but thsts about all I got from that hellhole
There's barding?
Goddamn
I think yeah
That's a lot to roll for
Average DB run is +- 1 hour,
radiant pollen
i'm doing the farm at the same time i'm doing my relic so it hurts less
gaunt star
50+- minute if everybody knows what to do and dont die
The fastest run i did was 43min 32 sec
I'm glad people are remembering to use essences finally
radiant pollen
that temperature boss hp tho
gaunt star
First boss hp 
Temperature boss feels like it has the most health
Savage looks to have the better chance at the items however coordinating 48 is likely to be harder
๐ฉ
I wouldn't be surprised if the rates do change
I guess when i get achievement for doing it 50 times, i will just farm mettle so i can get into savage, at that point i will be... Dead inside
radiant pollen
is there anything cool for the achievement like a title?
gaunt star
No.
I don't think the rates will change, Eureka drop rates haven't changed after all this time so Bozja's wont
Street Cred
radiant pollen
yeah doubt the rates are ever gonna change
gaunt star
But Eureka people are.....weird
You have the ability to say you wasted roughly 50 hours for a hairstyle
radiant pollen
lmao
gaunt star
At least i will get full mage set
radiant pollen
i was so hyped for the set until i realised i can't dye it
and the fact the cloak clips with the weapon
gaunt star
There is cloak?
radiant pollen
yeah for fending/maiming
gaunt star
Ye, cool cape
It flows in the wind
I am so sad, that somebody at the start sold it for 2.5 mil gil
And i was out doing DB
radiant pollen
someone sold it for 10m on balmung and now it's like 40mil
imagine being that person
gaunt star
Its average from 20 to 26 on Chaos
Reminds me of the time I saw someone selling the Cassie earing for 190K instead of 19 million
Must've missed a zero
radiant pollen
gaunt star
But why would you even want the cassie earing? It look fugly
open blade
BA boosts
gaunt star
I dont think i even ever seen somebody get the hair, except that one time on the 4th run
I mean I guess there's the Elemental bonus stats, but still it's not like you need it
radiant pollen
guy from my fc got it on first run
gaunt star
Someone in my fc got the hair twice in one day
wet mountain
If you guys didn't know already you only need to do step 2 ONCE resistance to remember I just finished step two and 1 again and on step 3 and step 2 didn't appear as a quest
gaunt star
I started laughing, like a maniac, when i saw on some site, say that " if you dont get the hair, just do it a couple more times, and you will get it"
grave raft
If you guys didn't know already you only need to do step 2 ONCE resistance to r...
really?
wet mountain
Yes
radiant pollen
wonder what the drop chance is
wet mountain
Really
gaunt star
I started laughing, like a maniac, when i saw on some site, say that " if you do...
They right tho, just do it a couple more hundred times and you'll get it
wet mountain
Spread the world I've been going around saying it
radiant pollen
i had to farm matoya's relict 50 times for dragoon armor so i'll probably spend a lifetime in DB
wet mountain
Haha
gaunt star
Just enough time for a new expansion
wet mountain
That's a big relief because I'm doing all 17 relics again
gaunt star
I watched Lord Of The Ring directors cut while doing DB
I swear it's like 5%
Sounds about right
And savage is 6%
But if it wasn't so rare then it wouldn't be so expensive
And that's not even what itwm you'll get
All i got yesterday was Queen notes
radiant pollen
orchestrion rolls for me
gaunt star
I am thankful for extra silver, but bruh
If the item had a 40% drop rate it wouldn't be costing as much as it did, it'd only be like 2 million
It's because the drop rate is so low that it's so expensive
radiant pollen
i think once i'm done with relic i'll just farm it like once a twice a day
gaunt star
Pure CBT of a raid.
radiant pollen
it will drop eventually
gaunt star
That's the right attitude to have
You might not get it within 5 clears or even 100 clears, but eventually you'll get it
I wonder when people will do drop rate spreadsheet or something on it
wet mountain
I just got the golden mount Gabriel going to sell it haha big bucks
radiant pollen
is gabriel from DB?
wicked oak
does the 515 relic weapon have materia slots?
radiant pollen
no
wet mountain
DB normal