retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[odd yoke]

I want more Drrrrr

[strange wing]

Will it at least get prettier?

[odd yoke]

Make alliance raids like thisss

[clear jay]

Is there anyway to get your shiny relic replica, im at farming the HW and SB raids

[gaunt star]

Hahaha Nah you need the full 48

[odd yoke]

No you dont

For for castrum

[strange wing]

Half of my problem with Bozja is how boring everything looks.

[autumn heron]

DR is actually fun

[gaunt star]

20 if they know what they’re doing

[autumn heron]

the best raid since Orbornne

[gaunt star]

But realistically that ain’t happening

[odd yoke]

Just fucking use your essenses

[maiden lodge]

But yeah, seriously

[gaunt star]

That’s too hard for people to do you elitist!!!

[strange wing]

No one knows what they are doing in Castrum.

[autumn heron]

people forget

about the lost actions

[maiden lodge]

CLL is just a warm up for DR

[gaunt star]

You don’t pay their sub how dare you

[autumn heron]

lost death works on mobs

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/538705861678333982/772645087917637653/imout.gif

[brisk quail]

Act 1 is baby mode compared to act 2 gogo.

[coral kite]

yo...

[strange wing]

Lost actions? If you know where they are, aren't they found actions?

[coral kite]

fuck trinity avowed

[dim sigil]

I meant like CEs having such a low drop rate on the memories u need

It's faster to spam Crystal Tower

[gaunt star]

Fuck the queen

[odd yoke]

I love the mechanics

[gaunt star]

Kept being raised into aoe over and over

[dim sigil]

The Killer Queen Bitcthe Dust

[odd yoke]

Just dont die so you dont have to be raised

[crude rover]

if you're raised into an aoe.. just don't do anything for a few seconds.

[odd yoke]

:^]

[maiden lodge]

DR was a nightmare though cause my internet was spiky

[autumn heron]

stop hitting okay to rez if you see shes casting an aoe

[maiden lodge]

So I hated it but I can see enjoying it once I can actually do

[autumn heron]

just wait like

[gaunt star]

That’s the problem she’s always casting an aoe

[autumn heron]

5 seconds

[odd yoke]

Or wait and dont act

[autumn heron]

she isnt

there are plenty of openings

[gaunt star]

That or my party just did not time heals correctly

It was very chaotic but very rewarding

[odd yoke]

Use 👏 your 👏 transcendant

[crude rover]

the vast majority of the damage in that fight is avoidable

take the res, don't use an ability, move into position for the aoe with transcendent

then you can move again

[coral kite]

I just

hate trinity that's all

first time running it and

that hot cold mechanic was not my friend

[odd yoke]

Use a Lifesteal essense if you have 0 trust

I love Hot/cold

[autumn heron]

I was right btw

[coral kite]

Like, it ain't hard to get

but fuck

[gaunt star]

The hot cold was not too bad

[coral kite]

the instant death no matter how many stacks u have

[brisk quail]

Hot cold was a sick mechanic

[autumn heron]

the hrothgar queen is just a Roe woman

in a bikini

[gaunt star]

I love it

[autumn heron]

[odd yoke]

I want more like it

[brisk quail]

Just don't hit 2 stacks

[coral kite]

You'll still die on 1

or maybe that was just me

idk

[odd yoke]

I can't wait to see how she is in savage

[gaunt star]

No female Hrothgar but guess whose clans we now know

[autumn heron]

SHe actually turns into a female hrothgar

in savage

[coral kite]

I'm just doing it for the completion and my lost actions aren't great

[gaunt star]

He appears in Gangos after the 24man

[silk cape]

Have a screenshot?

[odd yoke]

You took the bait

[gaunt star]

Not at the moment but he looks like a giant lizard

[odd yoke]

Now your life is forfeir

[gaunt star]

And their physiology is even weirder than I imagined

[wary perch]

No female horth

[autumn heron]

nah

[gaunt star]

Who needs female Hrothgar when you have bangaa that have 4 clans!!!

Limited race super deluxe edition

[wary perch]

Im just wondering where did that queen chair machine come from

It so sudden

[gaunt star]

Apparently it was in the artwork

[odd yoke]

The sword duh

:^]

[gaunt star]

Wasn’t a spider

[wary perch]

Like let's sit on the arm chair and let it fight the intruder

So wierd

[brisk quail]

Bike boss

[coral kite]

Also why is the queen riding an FF13 Eidolon tbh

[brisk quail]

Bike boss

Boss go brrrrrrr

[odd yoke]

Bike boss that toots at you

Spoopy bike

[silk cape]

Queen's throne + Trinity Seeker + Trinity Awoken == Hecatoncheir (13) x Brynhildr (13)

[brisk quail]

So we have titan kart and queen brynhildr bike.

What's next?

Bahamut Sedan?

Is that the next character for ffxiv kart?

[autumn heron]

it reminds me of Minstral

from MGR

[odd yoke]

Zenos mobile

[gaunt star]

Shiva motorcycle

[brisk quail]

Zenos scooter

[autumn heron]

who fought you sitting on robots

[odd yoke]

His new weapon is him skateboarding

With sic kickflips

[coral kite]

I don't wanna imagine zenos turning into a bike

like that quagmire toilet meme butwith zenos

[silk cape]

Sit on a Shiva sister's face, make vroom vroom noises

[odd yoke]

Does the thrill of the butt not please you

[gaunt star]

I love seeing the Viera’s cry about hair and the judge helmets today

[odd yoke]

Limited race btw

[gaunt star]

I warned people since the benchmark and no one listened...laughing my ass off every time I see their posts

[plain sierra]

Aaaand Gogo gone-gone. woo

[coral kite]

did Viera people think they'd get working hats?

at this pointy

[wary perch]

they want to wear helmet with ears poke out of the helmet over no helmet

[gaunt star]

Some still believe

[wary perch]

So that's what they get

[autumn heron]

if you wanna be a bun or furry bara man

[coral kite]

you may as well take a pessimistic approach when it comes to viera/hroth headgera

[gaunt star]

It’s the saddest thing ever

[coral kite]

don't expect anything

[autumn heron]

you have to live with no hats

[coral kite]

and you'll never be disappinted

[wary hawk]

Ain't it crazy how some jobs still haven't gotten a better relic their Zeta?

[gaunt star]

Im fully in favor of keeping viera and Hrothgar limited if it means getting better gear like they’ve been making recently

[wary perch]

Just look at the mqote condom ears helmet

[gaunt star]

The cryplurker, Eden, and judge sets

[wary perch]

Who would want that on viera

[autumn heron]

I hated most of the Atma weapons

[gaunt star]

More of this please strip the budget from the limited races entirely

[coral kite]

I mean, i'm surprised the devs haven't juts

[autumn heron]

I like most of the new relics

[coral kite]

decided tosay it fuck it

and let helmets clip

like, how come big bunny ears don't just clip through hats : )

[gaunt star]

The new relics are not my thing except the rdm one

[autumn heron]

I like that the DRK one

is actually a sword

[odd yoke]

I wonder how truly fucked their skeleton is

To be this un hattable

[autumn heron]

and DRG's finally get a fucking spear

[gaunt star]

Viera heads are just normal heads

[undone wyvern]

do we have the stats for the new weapons?

sorry if this has been asked 500 times

[odd yoke]

515

[gaunt star]

Everyone knows this but some people still lie and say that the ears are a hat

[wary hawk]

They ain't bad, but PLD, WAR and NIN have not been dethroned yet

[undone wyvern]

i meant substats!

[wary hawk]

Zeta*

[odd yoke]

You can customise them

[wary perch]

You can?

[odd yoke]

Yed

Its the last step

[wary perch]

For resistance weapon?

[odd yoke]

Yes

[terse bolt]

I like ducks

[gaunt star]

Hrothgar however is another mess people got all excited today when they forgot what the one from the end of the gnb quests looked like thinking it was a new hair

[terse bolt]

[wary hawk]

Is it mandatory or optional like Eureka?

[odd yoke]

First is CE or CT, then Void ark/ilavice, then its DR or potd for substats

[autumn heron]

mandatory

[odd yoke]

probably mandatory

[wary hawk]

Dammit

[autumn heron]

the 48 man savage is optional

[odd yoke]

Last step is just 15 dr runs

[terse bolt]

Do I need to do the SB alliance raid

[autumn heron]

yes

[terse bolt]

_>

Cries

[odd yoke]

[terse bolt]

Do I need the story

[odd yoke]

Yes

[autumn heron]

yes

[odd yoke]

Castrum is required

For the new steps

[autumn heron]

DR is also directly related to the bozja story

[gaunt star]

Good luck to all the new people running castrum

I will not help, but someone else will

[terse bolt]

Cries

[gaunt star]

Worst piece of content since pagos

[autumn heron]

nah

the actual content here is good

its just they fucked up how to get to it

[terse bolt]

I dislike the SB Alliance Raid story

[gaunt star]

The rest of bozja and DR I like but castrum is a disaster

[odd yoke]

And all the 0 IQs coming out to play

[plain sierra]

Mm, what would be ideal materia for Predatrice?

[wary perch]

Castrum is ok

[autumn heron]

the only way thats possible is if you never played FFXII or FFT

[terse bolt]

I have not

[autumn heron]

the Ivalice raids are just fanservice

[terse bolt]

FFXII is actually my next game on my list

[autumn heron]

since Ivalice is the most popular FF world

[wary perch]

But they lower instance population to 72 and make it pop during a ce is a fail

[odd yoke]

They increased rhe registration time so ey

[terse bolt]

Perhaps tomorrow I will start FFXII

[autumn heron]

good

its a good game

[terse bolt]

How much of FFXII do I need to do? All of it?

[gaunt star]

And gave us 5 more min to wait for it to not fill to 10 people in most cases

[autumn heron]

well

yes

[odd yoke]

Let 12 play itself while you play 14

[autumn heron]

beat the game

[gaunt star]

For real do castrum this week or else lol

[terse bolt]

Aaaaah

I don’t want to start another FF game

[autumn heron]

He's technically not wrong

[terse bolt]

I didn’t want to start FFXIV

But here I am at 850 hours

[grand parcel]

hell yes. this isn't as bad as the other expert crafts

[autumn heron]

XIV is one big fanservice game

[terse bolt]

I’m halfway through X, VII, XV, and XIII

[jaunty sorrel]

are the vaxatious memories and haunting memories guaranted drops from fates?

[autumn heron]

hell even the main story of ShB is just FF3

[jaunty sorrel]

asking for someone who is just starting

[autumn heron]

like literally just FF3 again

[odd yoke]

Lol no

We aint babies anymore

[autumn heron]

its a legit less than 10% drop rate

from fates

[terse bolt]

From what I saw someone did 20 FATEs without a single

[autumn heron]

yup

that was me

[odd yoke]

Good old original fate drop rates from other relics

[autumn heron]

so yea its faster to just do alliance raids

[cobalt crystal]

[unreal wadi]

Oh I just read the field notes for the queen's guards

...

||They're all Bozjan Resistance members||

[wary perch]

Yup

[unreal wadi]

||All former blades as well||

Fucking yikes

[last nacelle]

Anyone get to the stage to test what it means by palace of the dead? Curious which floors you have to do.

[odd yoke]

||isn't trinity one as well||

[wary perch]

By the queen's power they combined and become queen's guard

[autumn heron]

No ones gonna get there till at least tomorrow

[odd yoke]

People say floor 100

[autumn heron]

18 Mhach and 18 Ivalice takes a while

[odd yoke]

So

Just be ready

[wary perch]

Nah

20min each run

[autumn heron]

Mhach yes

Ivalice

people still wipe to thundergod

based thundergod

[wary perch]

Oobonnr is a must?

[kindred meteor]

Just do Ridorana tbh

[wary perch]

Can't do rabanastre?

[odd yoke]

Any Ivalice

[autumn heron]

no but if you want to actually queue

[wary perch]

Then skip orbonne lol

[autumn heron]

and not wait 10 years

[odd yoke]

Just que them all, increase your odds

[autumn heron]

just go for all 3

[kindred meteor]

Ridorana bae

[autumn heron]

I actually quite like the clocktower

[odd yoke]

I love them all

[kindred meteor]

Love seeing "what's a prime"

[wary perch]

Didn't clock tower has a lot of boss downtime?

[odd yoke]

I love raids were casuals are bad at them

[autumn heron]

they are the 3 best alliance raids in the game

[odd yoke]

[wary perch]

Not to mention math boss

[odd yoke]

You can get good uptime

[autumn heron]

2+5

tell me or die

[odd yoke]

Its fish

[kindred meteor]

Wheres forced downtime?

[gaunt star]

The Virgin Construct 7 vs The Chad Forced March Mathman

[cobalt crystal]

[odd yoke]

Can't wait to see hot/cold in my next savage tier

[autumn heron]

forced march man is a cheater

construct 7 plays honorably

[kindred meteor]

Can only remember downtime on Construct, not any of the other Ridorana bosses

[gaunt star]

Isn't hot/cold just like Tsuki moon stuff?

[wary perch]

No

[odd yoke]

You nees to be hir by a specific attack

[gaunt star]

I've never done it so I'm only going off of what friends say

[odd yoke]

To fix your stack

[gaunt star]

Ooooh

[wary perch]

It's math with tsukoyomi moon stuff

[maiden lodge]

A specific -level- of attack too

[odd yoke]

Like if you're 2 fire, you nees to be hit by 2 ice

[warm bone]

thats more like hello world?

[maiden lodge]

There's no ticking 'swap over or else thing' though

[gaunt star]

"In Darkness blooms the algebra!"

[warm bone]

or nisi

[maiden lodge]

It's more like negative-positive

[autumn heron]

the hot/cold mechanic makes it so you cant just follow other people

you do that you have a 3 in 4 chance of dying

[odd yoke]

Its personal responsibility

And I love it

To see the dummies

[wary perch]

Too bad queen didn't use hot cold

[odd yoke]

She used squares which is good enough

[autumn heron]

queen forces you to play chess

[wary perch]

Also the fucking donut exa flare

[odd yoke]

I had to fucking think for once

I HATE THAT

Only mechanic I hate

[autumn heron]

what the phantom donut flare?

thats ez tho

[odd yoke]

Especially when tanking the boss ISN'T FUCKING MOVING MY GCD REEEEEE

[wary perch]

Yea

[terse bolt]

Got it >_>

[autumn heron]

good game

play it

[gaunt star]

When is Ashe coming back in the story

[terse bolt]

Ashe died

[odd yoke]

She went in the wind

[gaunt star]

Sorry I meant the other one

The young one or whoever Fran is with

[terse bolt]

Fran died too

Idk who Ashe or Fran are

[coral kite]

also tell SE to stop making the femroe villains hot

thanks

[autumn heron]

Ashe is the queen of Rabneaster

Fran is Balthier partner

[terse bolt]

Oh

Yeah, they both died in the Copied Factory raid series

[autumn heron]

Copied Factory is nier tho

[terse bolt]

Yeah, Lightning killed them in the Bunker as Yevon smited it from the sky

@autumn heron

[autumn heron]

[terse bolt]

Oh, and then Lightning drove off in the Regalia

[coral kite]

this sum fanfic shit wut

[terse bolt]

Why is XII like 4x the cost of XIII

[coral kite]

Because

it's actually good

?

I don't know the real answer but

go get it anyways

[terse bolt]

Why are both XIII sequels more than XIII

._.

45 = 4 * 15 right

:3

[autumn heron]

the sequels are newer

[terse bolt]

Then why are they both the same price

XD

[autumn heron]

cause thats a remake of XII

[terse bolt]

Wat

I must grow my collection

[coral kite]

Oh right yea

Zodiac Age version is actually more recent

than the 13 trilog

y

[terse bolt]

What

That makes no sense

[onyx sundial]

Is the 48 man r3ally savage level

[coral kite]

FF12 Zodiac Age is the new version of FF12 that's a lot better than the base game

[coral kite]

Trust me, I have both

[terse bolt]

Idk whether this is scam or not

._.

[coral kite]

bruh what site is that

[terse bolt]

"DLCompare: The Gamer's Price-Comparison Tool"

[coral kite]

I see

Well yea, Zodiac Age is p much about

full price

[terse bolt]

Hm

[coral kite]

not too sure about those other sites tho

[terse bolt]

I got it at Gamestop for 10$ on Black Friday

Or rather I got it bundled with X for 10$

But I don't want to play on Switch

_>

[gaunt star]

How long does a delubrum reginae run take? On average, I mean

[odd yoke]

An hour

[gaunt star]

Ok

[odd yoke]

Longer with wipes

[terse bolt]

Welp

It was on sale for 50% off 10 days ago

->

Perhaps I'll just do Switch :(

[dire flower]

castrum up on turtle server

[coral kite]

good idea

I mean, the switch version of ff games isn't terrible from what i've heard

and i've played their 7 and 8 port

[dull atlas]

Oh zodiac age

Underrated game

Fuck the first ff 12 version though.

Just the fact you can actually control the damn espers and you can trigger their ultimates without the previous versions bs.....

[maiden lodge]

on the other hand, no summoning an esper just to osmose yourself back to full mp

ZA's qol though... chef's kiss

Want to build a character that isn't 'holder of masamune/yagyu/zodiark spear

[dull atlas]

Well, no USING MP FOR QUICKENINGS

[maiden lodge]

You can do that, viably!

[dull atlas]

That was bloddy annoying.

[maiden lodge]

me gusta

Yeah

[terse bolt]

There are vierra :o

[maiden lodge]

Black Magic actually -slaps-

[terse bolt]

The graphics in 12 are pretty good

[maiden lodge]

And no Forbidden Chests

RIP that terrible mechanic

[dull atlas]

Hahahahah

Well, if you don't check a guide zodiac has the..... Invisible chests.....

[maiden lodge]

'oh you grabbed a normal looking chest in a normal early dungeon? Too bad, how could you be such a terrible person, no Zodiac Spear for you ever'

[dull atlas]

Why zodiac when you can Tournesol xd

[maiden lodge]

'Well I can get it another way, can't I?'
'No, go die in a fire, filthy casual'

[dull atlas]

How is new patch for you guys?

Oh right best zodiac age thing.....

[maiden lodge]

I've finished the blue mage levelling and spell-get, about to sit down and consider working on Gogo

[dull atlas]

Board. Reset.

[maiden lodge]

That came later though

[dull atlas]

Just leveled blu, got a couple spells

Choco MEteOR. Is darn good

[maiden lodge]

It's alright but I used the tried and true

Doom spam->Aqua Breath->Northerlies->move on with my life

[dull atlas]

Er

[maiden lodge]

However, I added 'gather a group of 3 or 4 every so often' 'Aqua Breath->Northerlies->Automatically Kill Them All.

[dull atlas]

You can just ultravibrarion

Yes

[maiden lodge]

You can Ultravibration but what do you do when its on cooldown?

This xp train doesn't stop for nothing

Also

Triple Trident

FWAH what a spell

How are the namazu not the dominant race of murder-warriors

[warm bone]

[dim sigil]

If it wasnt for their low intelligence they would be

[warm bone]

a namazu is in the mod team of this server

[dull atlas]

Er

[warm bone]

UNLIMITED POWAH

[maiden lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/ffxiv-ff14-namazu-heard-you-talkin-shit-gif-15779424

[dull atlas]

Triple trident has a big cd though

[maiden lodge]

Yeah, it should for 750 fricken potency

[shell merlin]

fastest raid for me yet

[upbeat beacon]

[maiden lodge]

Cause tingle affects each individual hit

Matra Magic is similarly insane

[dull atlas]

You Bristle Mantra

[maiden lodge]

Obviously

But that's beside the point. It slaps

[dull atlas]

Not fond of Tingle?

[maiden lodge]

I am fond of Tingle when Triple TRident exists.

Tingle is terrible otherwise.

[odd yoke]

I wonder what you bristle now that nightbloom exists

[maiden lodge]

I don't think it works with Phantom Flurry, more testing needed

[odd yoke]

In the opener

[maiden lodge]

MATRA MAGIC.

[odd yoke]

Oh right dont have that

[maiden lodge]

Also the one you get from Ivar is good

[dull atlas]

Tinle doesn't raise by a percentage

It's fixed 100 potency

[maiden lodge]

Nope. It's 100 raw potency.

I know.

Which is why it's meh--except on Triple TRident

[open verge]

!action tingle

[lusty shadow]

**Tingle** : lvl 1 BLU (200 MP) (2.5 second cooldown)(2.0 second base cast time)

Deals lightning damage to target and all enemies nearby it with a potency of 100 for the first enemy, and 50% less for all remaining enemies.
Additional Effect: Increases the potency of the next physical damage spell cast by 100
Duration: 15s

Blue Magic

The Namazu likely named this ability more for the pleasantly tingling current that energizes the caster, rather than the shocking bolt of devastation that smites the distant target. Devised by idle hunters who prefer to stay in one comfortable spot on the river, and strike at whatever swims into range.

Obtained

Ebisu Catfish / Yanxia (28, 6)

Blue Magic

Type: Magic
Aspect: Lightning
Rank: 2

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[dull atlas]

Bristle is.... 50 percent more

[maiden lodge]

Okay walk with me hear

Tingle.

Whistle

Triple Trident.

[open verge]

Bristle doesn’t do damage

[dull atlas]

Sh

Right

You stack them

[maiden lodge]

Yessss

[dull atlas]

You can staaaaaack

Oh

Plus offguardt

[maiden lodge]

!action Triple Trident

[lusty shadow]

**Triple Trident** : lvl 1 BLU (300 MP) (90.0 second cooldown)(2.0 second base cast time)

Delivers a threefold attack, each hit with a potency of 150.
This action does not share a recast timer with any other actions.

Blue Magic

Originally developed by the Namazu as a spearfishing technique, this blindingly fast triple strike has proven just as effective against creatures more intent on devouring the fisher.

Obtained

Ebisu Catfish / Yanxia (28, 6)

Blue Magic

Type: Physical
Aspect: Piercing
Rank: 1

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[maiden lodge]

I can confirm, through testing, Tingle works on all three hits

So it's +300 potency here.

Can you say 100k slaps in SB?

[dull atlas]

Urgh I need more slots

[maiden lodge]

However i need to test it more with

!action Phantom Flurry

[lusty shadow]

**Phantom Flurry** : lvl 1 BLU (300 MP) (120.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Deals unaspected damage over time with a potency of 200 to all enemies in a cone before you.
Duration: 5s
Executing Phantom Flurry again before its effect expires deals unaspected damage to all enemies in a cone before you with a potency of 600 for the first enemy, and 50% less for all remaining enemies.
Effect ends upon using an action other than Phantom Flurry or moving (including facing a different direction).

Blue Magic

A technique employed by Suzaku, wherein the auspice unleashes a swift series of blurring kicks. The “phantom” half of the name is a somewhat nebulous reference to a constellation in Far Eastern astrology, the sign of which is said to bring good fortune in all matters...except that of matrimony.

Obtained

Suzaku / Hells' Kier

Blue Magic

Type: Physical
Aspect: Blunt
Rank: 5

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[dull atlas]

Do you use for spam?

[maiden lodge]

No

Tingle doesn't affect tingle, sadly

I only use it on Trident

But it might also be worth for flurry

[dull atlas]

Oh lol THEY MADE IT THE NTR KICK

The memes are real

[pine epoch]

So who here wants to take bets. 5.55 bozja. A. Gabranth is on the airship ifrit and has come personally to assist bozja and will be the finale to Matsuno overarching story.
B. Gabranth remains in valnain and Menenius is the final antagonist of Bozja and we invade airship ifrit. And 6.x will be matsuno story part 3 making this a trilogy.
Or C. Same as B. But Fran and the united eastern alliance defeat gabranth while we defeat menenius ending matsuno overarching story

[maiden lodge]

I need to test if it works on flurry though

[pine epoch]

I'm leaning on B

[dull atlas]

Some weird ones

[maiden lodge]

I'm hoping for B

[dull atlas]

Saintly Beam.

[maiden lodge]

Matsuno's work in bozja's deec

[dull atlas]

What does it affect ingame as undead?

[maiden lodge]

Saintly Beam is for those situations where LV5/Ultra doesn't work in dungeons

(and your cooldowns are down)

[pine epoch]

Undead mobs are mostly in ARR.

No wait

[maiden lodge]

They're in SB dungeons, I assure you

[pine epoch]

Sirensong sea

[maiden lodge]

Skalla

[dull atlas]

I mean, if we had eureka....

[maiden lodge]

Temple of the Fist

[pine epoch]

But ya undead mobs are mostly immune to instant death

[maiden lodge]

It's a meme ability for meme dungeon runs, but it's a tool in the kit, and probably just stupidpower in Carny

!action Nightbloom

[lusty shadow]

**Nightbloom** : lvl 1 BLU (300 MP) (120.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Deals unaspected damage to all nearby enemies with a potency of 400 for the first enemy, and 50% less for all remaining enemies.
Additional Effect: Unaspected damage over time
Potency: 75
Duration: 60s

Blue Magic

This extravagant technique belongs to Tsukuyomi, Lady of the Moon, whose malignant ire manifests as a field of flowers which then burst apart in a hail of deadly petals. Accept the inevitability of the grave, and the power of the nightbloom is yours to wield...

Obtained

Tsukuyomi / Castrum Fluminis

Blue Magic

Type: Magic
Aspect: None
Rank: 5

Powered by XIVAPI | BLU Data Powered by FFXIV Collect

[maiden lodge]

!action Both Ends

[lusty shadow]

**Both Ends** : lvl 1 BLU (300 MP) (120.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 600 to all nearby enemies.
Shares a recast timer with certain blue magic spells.

Blue Magic

This incantation seeks to emulate the supernatural might of the auspice Qitian Dasheng, with the caster leaping into the air, and spinning an elongated staff of pure aether in a whirlwind of brutal force.

Obtained

Qitian Dasheng / The Swallow's Compass

Blue Magic

Type: Physical
Aspect: Blunt
Rank: 5

Powered by XIVAPI | BLU Data Powered by FFXIV Collect

[maiden lodge]

Nightbloom is for bosses, Both Ends for trash

They share a cooldown

[odd yoke]

Well even 3 ticks of the dot makes nightbloom better

If you're not insta ing the pack

[maiden lodge]

Shit doesn't last 15 seconds in dungeons when you're a pack of bluebombers with your cooldowns up

[odd yoke]

Long enough

[maiden lodge]

Also

600-200=400/75=5 and a third ticks.

Unless you're thinking that two hundred on the main target matters much

[odd yoke]

Oh right damage fall off

[maiden lodge]

yeahhhhh

[odd yoke]

Eh im lazy

[maiden lodge]

Nightbloom IS better on a hard target with small adds though, I'll agree there

Like that geomancer dude that summons the dragons, yeah, nightbloom him

[odd yoke]

Wtb more spell slots

[maiden lodge]

Blue mage went from 'just spam one spell and hit your abilities on cooldown' to a fucked up complex rotation so gradually I never even noticed

[odd yoke]

"oh its just one nuke spell" to "how the fuck do i fit everything under moon flute"

[shell merlin]

poor guy

[maiden lodge]

Yeah, losing mettle is like

losing hp

you get them back, stop fuckin whining

[shell merlin]

650k

[flat merlin]

[shell merlin]

sounds liek he is bad

at raids

[odd yoke]

Or did savage

[maiden lodge]

Whats next complaining about gil loss to repairs

[muted sandal]

So I did my blind run in the new 24 man raid. Was pretty. My fave mechanics in the new fights are the temperature gauge and chess movement

[shell merlin]

ye

[maiden lodge]

I thought the bomb mechanic was interesting

I do appreciate they're rolling out new things in it

[gloomy shale]

has anyone found an optimal BLU level?

[odd yoke]

Khlosuia beach power level

Fuck ton of mobs

[gloomy shale]

should i grab any of the new spells beforehand?

[odd yoke]

If you're being power levelled you dont

Just sardine shit and your friend kills

[gloomy shale]

ah just go for chain?

[odd yoke]

You're just tagging mobs

[maiden lodge]

Honestly though, if you have instakill, levelling blu normally is easy af

[odd yoke]

For your friend to kill

[gloomy shale]

insta?

[maiden lodge]

Tailscrew, doom, missile

Basically stuff that makes mobs trivial

[warm bone]

lvl 5 death

[maiden lodge]

lv 5 death as a cd though, and not really as useful

[warm bone]

if you have a friend, just sit somewhere and spam sardine

[maiden lodge]

Ultravibe is where its at

[brisk quail]

Is Blaze (Spell) savage exclusive?

[maiden lodge]

You get 100-270k per mob depending on level

[odd yoke]

No

Blaze is normal mode

[maiden lodge]

So, you level FAST

[odd yoke]

Its just its aoe

[brisk quail]

Oh derp.

[maiden lodge]

Avoid dungeon trap parties

Dungeons are fail

I mean to be very honest, you could probably just go to the Lochs with Mimicry on Healer, and just solo mobs at level 60 and give zero shits and reach 70 that way.

[gloomy shale]

i see a couple blu lochs groups on the PF

[maiden lodge]

If the Lochs had good aoe grinding spots I'd suggest that, but mobs are just too spread out to be reliable

That's my one complaint about this round of blue---they gave blue an amazing AoE death spell that's perfect for levelling and there's only a few spots it's usable to level.

[odd yoke]

Omg...in DR phantom boss...There's dots on the ground so show there the donuts go and stop

[maiden lodge]

get out

actually don't, they're inxaflares, get in

[odd yoke]

Ik but moving the boss while keeping the gcd rolling is ass

[onyx sundial]

ranged dps go brrrrrr

[shell merlin]

all I want is 1

i wanna just sell 1

god whyyyyyyyyyy

[royal scroll]

What are you trying to sell?

[shell merlin]

@royal scroll hair

THE HAIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

its drop rate is just

so low i bet

[royal scroll]

Those prices tho

[gaunt star]

So what would the Eureka equivalent of this be? Cassie earing? That's the only thing I can think of that was above 20 million

[shell merlin]

@royal scroll you dont understand sylus

thats all there is

nothing is selling

its all been sold

its so popular and rare it doesnt even stay on

given people say it only drops from gold DR Chest

[warm bone]

/shiver emote the fire gobblue or the eurekan petrel

[shell merlin]

which is last 2

and you practically have 1 chance every 2 hours

[royal scroll]

I am wanting it badly too. But I'll wait a month for better prices hopefully

[shell merlin]

unless u get a fast 1 hour run

[warm bone]

altho its funny its going up instead of down

[gaunt star]

The price wont change too much

[shell merlin]

the hair style price will actually not drop much lol

its might get cheaper, but when bozja dies again

stonks

[gaunt star]

If Cassie Earing can be at 30 million then this hair can be 25 million

[gloomy shale]

invest in hairstyle?

[shell merlin]

if you can get it for 15mil

id resell it

tbh

[warm bone]

if you get it 15 mil, just use it man

[shell merlin]

nawh

sell it for 25mil+

stonks

[gloomy shale]

what is the hairstyle btw? havent seven seen it

[warm bone]

gil stonks

its in the patch notes

[gaunt star]

Get it, sell it, then use that money to buy an undercutted night pegasus, then sell that for 40 mill

Big stonks

[gloomy shale]

this guy stonks

[shell merlin]

lmao

[warm bone]

whats the point to stonks for gil unless you need to buy housing?

[shell merlin]

typical lalas

uh

[gaunt star]

:3

[gloomy shale]

there is no point really

[shell merlin]

we dont ask that

we just do it

[warm bone]

fair enough

[shell merlin]

frankly, there is no point to gil in the end game maybe materia

and house

but I just want a lot of gil

just because

only 18mil

[gaunt star]

Unless you want a large there's no point in saving more than 20 mil, but I like to see the big number

[shell merlin]

^

god I wanna go back in and run more but

I CANT handle the people who dont know how to run it already first day

gitgud

[gaunt star]

I can't stand people who don't bring essences or use lost actions

[shell merlin]

imagine not knowing new content day 1

[final isle]

point of having money is you can buy a 25million hairstyle if you want

[shell merlin]

BRO

[gaunt star]

[shell merlin]

PEOPLE WHO DONT BRING spirit of the beast

or something for self heal

also yes pyro

[gloomy shale]

did anyone find ou t what the drop rate for loathsome is in bozja?

[shell merlin]

wait a day tbh

[final isle]

eureka has a bunch of 10-20million things to buy too

[shell merlin]

already saw a WAR with relic btw

[gloomy shale]

yeah well he prolly did syrcus tower

[final isle]

so having a bunch of money means you can afford anything you really want to, while not having as much means you have to grind them

[shell merlin]

insane ass people

@final isle so what you are saying is

its a pyramid scheme

[silk gale]

grindings part of the fun~

[final isle]

apparently need to do normal raid to start relic, thought I could do it after a few quests, so have to wait for people to login now

[gaunt star]

The stuff with Eureka is because it actually benefits and makes you stronger in Eureka

[shell merlin]

SE makes grinding items
Poor lucky people get it to become rich

The rich buy the poor lucky people

repeat

[final isle]

na I meant like the mounts and hairstyle and emotes and stuff

[gaunt star]

Ooooh right

[gloomy shale]

i usually dont mind grinds but 24 mans are my bane

[gaunt star]

Well, mounts make sense

[gloomy shale]

smh

[shell merlin]

its a good raid tho

i will give them that

[final isle]

Eureka has a ton of stuff to sell but the prices were often pretty steep

[gaunt star]

DR is an amazing raid

[gloomy shale]

yeah DR honestly is one of my fav raids

[dim sigil]

Just be bun save money on hair

[rough cairn]

thats prolly my fav raid experience tbh

[gaunt star]

Maximum stonks

[rough cairn]

that helps too lol

[gaunt star]

Oops

Replied to the wrong one

[shell merlin]

also going in as rdm is free revive achievement

[odd yoke]

If only i was more rich to blow actions on Action reset abusing

[shell merlin]

got 200 revives in 5 raids

[gaunt star]

MAXIMUM STONKS

[pine epoch]

@maiden lodge ok hear me out dis. Paramina Rift/Lust for Power as a theme in FF14

[gaunt star]

Exactly, just go Viera or Hrothgar and you can sell every hairstyle that comes out since you'll never get to wear them

[dim sigil]

Idk how theyre gonna top The Queens boss theme its the actual best

[gaunt star]

Susanoo theme is the best theme imo

That theme slaps

Phase 2 makes it slap even harder

[dim sigil]

Its like destati, ff7 whispers of the planet, bozja, and smash bros brawl mixed into one

[gaunt star]

E12 theme is the new Ramuh meme

[dim sigil]

E12 theme is kinda eh

Its good but not great really needed a phase 2 version

[gaunt star]

As soon as you enter, Angelic choir that makes your ears bleed

It's so loud

What's the name of the theme that plays when your saving Gaia's memories? That song is nice

[dim sigil]

That was when again

[gaunt star]

During E12 normal

[dim sigil]

Ah you mean gaia

[gaunt star]

Oh right

Did I say Gaius?

Theres too many G names in this game

[versed hill]

Anyone know if PotD for third step is any floor or set floors?

[dim sigil]

As far as I'm aware it's just it doesn't have a name there's not even a Music Roll for it

[gaunt star]

Not stonks

[dim sigil]

I've been curious how the Palace of the Dead works for the Relic but nobody has been managed to give an answer yet

[gaunt star]

There has to be someone who's already done the relic by now

[dim sigil]

I imagine most people aren't going to reach that stage at day one there's people who have but not the majority

[gaunt star]

Someone is probably done by now, just to have it out of the way

[pine epoch]

You know people kept complaining about the relic being to short

Well

[final isle]

I want to get to that stage so I can farm memories while going for Necromancer, kinda can't "waste" my potd runs without the quest

[gaunt star]

People complained it was too easy, now they're saying it's too hard

[shell merlin]

@pine epoch people forgot how hard relics were

[pine epoch]

Fuck between relic weapon and augmented judge armor we got enough grind to last us until 6.0

[shell merlin]

lmao

you have enough grind in fucking DR alone

[warm bone]

crafter and gatherer relic too

btw

[shell merlin]

oh yah

LMAO

[dim sigil]

The judge Armour looks so awesome but since I can't use the helmet it's like ruined maybe ill just use drawf idk

[pine epoch]

Gonna be fair eureka weapons were not hard. Just time consuming. Because you had to level alongside gathering the mats for it

[gaunt star]

But I've said this before and I'll say it again, people spent 18 hours a day for 2 weeks in Diadem for a title that doesn't matter. But they wont spend a few days doing fates for weapons

[shell merlin]

then this isnt hard either

[warm bone]

Eureka had the kettle

[shell merlin]

just long

yes angy

cause everyone runs bots

kidding

sorta

[pine epoch]

Technically eureka final step is hard cause if you want to truly finish it. The "victory lap" step requires you to obtain 100 eureka fragments which can only be obtained in BA

And I forgot how many fragments you get per run

[sterile moat]

my new guilty pleasure is watch people with platebearer die to doom because they fucked up a mech twice

[dim sigil]

There is somebody bottong like the number one for carpentry had like five times the amount appoints as the guy in second place

[final isle]

you don't really need to do that one though

since all it gives is eureka stats

[gaunt star]

I know a friend who wont do Bozja because it's too grindy, yet he spent entire days in Diadem for the saint title :/

[final isle]

the relic is more or less finished once you get to the shiny last step

[shell merlin]

bozja mettle is the only grindy bit

[warm bone]

fragments only required for eureka stats.

[dim sigil]

The difference praying in diadem can turn your brain off

[shell merlin]

let me ain like 2k max per skrim

[final isle]

rank 10 is really not grindy though

[shell merlin]

gain none in dr

gane none in castrum

[gaunt star]

You can turn off your brain for most CE's

[shell merlin]

gain*

[final isle]

rank 15 is pretty grindy, those last 3 levels are slow

[shell merlin]

yah it is

[gloomy shale]

CE's give a lot though

[final isle]

but you only need 10 for the relic, and it's like a couple of hours of FATEs or so

[shell merlin]

but

[final isle]

can even skip CEs if you're lazy and still make it

[shell merlin]

savage

dr

😄

[gaunt star]

I wanna do it for the Cerberus and then never go back

[shell merlin]

same

[worn forge]

once you grab 700k mettle, you wont need it again to enter savage

[shell merlin]

nice

[final isle]

but somehow because the FATEs are inside an instance, it's horrible compared to farming 60 HW FATEs or something

[worn forge]

it’s just for the unlock

[gaunt star]

Yeah, you only need to do the savage once no point in doing it multiple times

[pine prawn]

Someone has a picture for Queen's Guard Barding?

[gaunt star]

Give me mount and then I'm out

[shell merlin]

uhh i think so michael 1 sec

[languid flint]

do u need to play as the class to get the memories for relic?

[gaunt star]

Because it's not 100% drop rate, people have been spoiled

[shell merlin]

@pine prawn nop

just spend 3mil for it

ez

to be honest u should be rewarded in DR for not getting hit once

just my opinion

[gaunt star]

You should get mettle for doing Lactose Intolerant

[worn forge]

nope, just have the quest active

[languid flint]

ah is it just not guaranteed on CEs

[worn forge]

ye

[languid flint]

is it guaranteed from crystal tower?

the 1sts tep

[gaunt star]

Ye

[languid flint]

damn they rly do bozja dirty like this

[gaunt star]

Watch rank 15 be required for the next step

[languid flint]

i will quit ff14

jkjk

[odd yoke]

I mean

We'll see

[gaunt star]

I'd be ok if it was tbh

[odd yoke]

I dont think they said anything about any updates

For what they'll do in 5.55

Unless i missed something

[gaunt star]

Relic is usually BiS at the end of an expac, so some grinding is supposed to be expected

[shell merlin]

@languid flint an fc member hates this update so much they are actually quitting until expansion

lol

[odd yoke]

Well thats a given

[gaunt star]

But people don't like grind in an mmo I guess

[odd yoke]

But to bojza in general

[versed hill]

Even the dialogue doesnt mention what floors of potd you need

[languid flint]

LOL damn

relic grind be like that

[gaunt star]

W-what?....

[languid flint]

so 1st step is any crystal tower raid?

[gaunt star]

Are people that salty?

[shell merlin]

ye

[languid flint]

how grindy is 3rd step

[shell merlin]

@languid flint do 15 DRs

or

POTD

[odd yoke]

Pins

[worn forge]

people got mad that the current steps weren’t as piss easy as previously

aka

welcome to relic

[worn forge]

enjoy the stay

[versed hill]

They be vague

[gaunt star]

3rd step is probably the best, because you have 15 chances to make millions of gil

[shell merlin]

pff

[versed hill]

Unless its any 10 floors

[odd yoke]

And you get to access all the quest

[versed hill]

You can bet people will do 1-10 15 times

[shell merlin]

im 0/5 raids making "millions"

ima go for a 6th today cause addiction

[languid flint]

yeah im confused as to what that means by potd

[gaunt star]

I said you have a chance!

[languid flint]

is it any 10 floors?

[versed hill]

Dunno

[marsh osprey]

Crystal tower speedrun party

Lets go

[desert heath]

Can you really blame people for being salty

For like not wanting to grind out relic weapons?

[odd yoke]

not wanting to grind
relics

Pick one

Relics are kinda meant to be grindy

Thats their entire point

[royal scroll]

Yes, relics have always been that way. If they are meant to be alternate endgame weps, then yes

[desert heath]

Personally I don't care. But they should make the end step of the relic weapon be equal to ilvl on the BIS weapon of current savage tier

[odd yoke]

Thet will

That is how it always goes

[desert heath]

Equal not better

[warm bone]

relic weapons do not need raids so they will never be equal to raid weapon until the very last patch

[odd yoke]

5.55 will be 535

For relics

[desert heath]

iirc someone said relic weapon will beat out the BIS weapon?

Oh it will?

[odd yoke]

Yes

[desert heath]

not 540?

[odd yoke]

Same as all the other relics

Other relics have always ended up the same ilvl as savage, though usually being better due to more melds and custom substats

[desert heath]

i mean i dont mind grinding A Relic Weapon. But I really would Square Enix to make it so... like idk its not so disencouraging to people who like to play multiple jobs or characters

The game is set up to be very Alt Unfriendly

[odd yoke]

Relics entire point is to be the casual time sink

Otherwise there's barely anything else to do

[kindred meteor]

Just take your time with em lol

Going ham will lead to an insane burnout

[desert heath]

I couldn't bring myself to grind the 1000+ Fates and 98 Antitowers for all 17 job relic weapons

[odd yoke]

Then dont?

Thats why there alternatives

Change it up now and then

[desert heath]

Lol I didnt?

Change it up how?

[desert heath]

^

[odd yoke]

Do bojza

[desert heath]

^

It's Final Fantasy right? 😉 not Fate Farming 14

[odd yoke]

But you dont farm fates in bojza if you want relics

Outside the CE memory

Fates are only for mettle

[desert heath]

As i said i dont minding grinding a relic weapon with how they have it set up. But it would be nice to have a system that makes it more Alt Friendly to do so.

or Alt Job

[odd yoke]

Well whenever you multiply a grind by any number its gonna be bigger

[viscid monolith]

You gotta farm CEs for the new steps unless something has changed in the last 7 hours while I was getting all my Blue Mage spells

[odd yoke]

.

Did you read

[viscid monolith]

No

I never read

[odd yoke]

Fits in with the audience

[desert heath]

Lol Wut?

[odd yoke]

14 players dont read

[desert heath]

Including you?

[odd yoke]

Ofc

I observe

[desert heath]

xD

Observe Better

[odd yoke]

My glasses are put away for the day

[desert heath]

Just squint your eyes 4head

[grand parcel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/743617438905663611/806403627093852170/unknown.png

First tool obtained!

[shell merlin]

yo

its rainbow fish

[gloomy shale]

is there a tool gallery?

[shell merlin]

litttt

rainbow fish

[odd yoke]

I think pins has relic gallery

[wispy bolt]

anyone else being constantly 90k'd on primal?

[grand parcel]

i like how it casually steals dragoon's life of the dragon effects

[shell merlin]

sell

make millions

[odd yoke]

Wait mark 3

[shell merlin]

@onyx sundial did u get it from a gold chest

[odd yoke]

Is that golden Gabriel?

[shell merlin]

yes

DR ddrop

[odd yoke]

Bruh i have a mighty need

[shell merlin]

i wanna know if its from gold chest tho

[odd yoke]

I would assume final boss

[onyx sundial]

yeah

i got it from the last chest

[shell merlin]

anddd

[odd yoke]

Yep i have more reason to farm DR now

[shell merlin]

did you get hit at all

out of curiousity

just wanting to know if they added smol stuff like that

if not then oof rng

@odd yoke you didnt know it was form DR?

all drops are from dr

all tabletops
Minions
mount
hair

[odd yoke]

I didn't know that golden Gabriel existed

[shell merlin]

ye

[odd yoke]

Whats the minion

[onyx sundial]

[shell merlin]

DAH QUEEN

@onyx sundial congratz

@odd yoke queen is minion

[odd yoke]

With the bike or without

[shell merlin]

and a barding too

with

[odd yoke]

Mmm decent

[shell merlin]

check ffxiccollect

ffxiv

[gloomy shale]

to the moon

[eager prairie]

I wonder if i should just say screw mettle and just farm the raid without care

[gloomy shale]

i wish it contributed to the relic

[shell merlin]

@eager prairie if youre good enough youll lose like under 5k mettle per raid

so just grind 5k-10k after a raid

go back in

repeat

[eager prairie]

I ran it when it came out

I lost 100K mettle lol

[shell merlin]

LMAO

holy fuck

[somber storm]

there's also that daily repeatable quest that gives 12k mettle

[sterile moat]

yea

[shell merlin]

are people losing that much mettle

unironically?

[somber storm]

and 3 gold coins

[shell merlin]

@somber storm thought it was weekly

if its daily wtf

[onyx sundial]

its not daily

[open verge]

Weekly

[somber storm]

let me double check

[onyx sundial]

its weekly

[eager prairie]

Well we were all learning the mechanics it jusr came out lol

[shell merlin]

madlaw

[somber storm]

ok I misread the dates

[sterile moat]

i lost around 100k too on the first run too

[oak pike]

My first DR run I lost like 20k mettle

[sterile moat]

everyone was blind

[shell merlin]

I only lost 12k first run

and that was 1 hour into patch

only had 2 wipes

wtf

[sterile moat]

anyone past the first hour of the patch already had experienced people

[shell merlin]

maybe I got all the tryhards

[somber storm]

first run i lost like 10k, no wipes but a lot of deaths

[oak pike]

I like the hot and cold boss and the 4 automatrons

[shell merlin]

we wiped at the bombs and the last boss with the knockback line

first go

[odd yoke]

Just hit rank 15 and you wont havr to care

[shell merlin]

and hot and cold killed a lottttttt

[odd yoke]

🙃

[eager prairie]

I am at rank 15 lol

[shell merlin]

makes sense why you lose a lot then

[odd yoke]

Then why the fuck care for mettle

[shell merlin]

i lose 505 per death

[gaunt star]

you only need 700k mettle to ulock savage.its not require to entore savage.so i recommend unlock savage before bringing your mettel down to zero.

[shell merlin]

2525 per full detah

[eager prairie]

Thats why i posed the question lol

[odd yoke]

Mettles useless once ranked