#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
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Relic will never be stronger than anything else until last patch before next expansion
Anything on the stats on the new gear/ armor?
Until Savage stops mattering
There was a spreadsheet of it somewhere up there
wonder when the next ultimate will happen
I looked over and was like "Is that a fucking modern city ruin down there" and went into Gpose
Its not, but still
@lethal inlet 525 relic in 5.55
how does one get the new mount ;O ? boznja ?
Bozja savag
NOOO
But why ceberus from bozja achievement
cause hard content should be rewarding???
it fits right in line with what they did with with eureka so why not?
Eureka give ozma because we fight ozna
Have we seen the new NIN relic yet?
There is cerb critical in bozja too
Isn't there a cerberus in Bozja?
He is a fate in the front.
I hope savage has the same difficulty as ba
So you just use DF to get into Reginae?
@shiral isn't that ceberus a magitek?
No. You talk to makoto in bozja
After unlocking it
Hi! Anyone got a pic of the new Maiming set?
That aswell as it may or may not be related to the Savage itself ^^
Pins
Ah crap maiming is not in pins. Gimme a sec
Yeah but the dungeon is hard without no heals and only tanks in group
hope its a bug or something. the cape really makes these
Yea. Striking looks derp without the cape
Is the armor dyable?
Dunnoe either

Well, have you ever seen a mnk with a Cape?
Healers never wore plate until this armor either
is that fuckin' FFXII Judge Armor
Gabranth is fending
2nd from right is striking iirc
I'm kinda sad Aiming, Scouting and Striking is Bergan's gear
worst helmet
no Zargabaath
That's aiming
Healing and casting is the same just recolored as usual
fuckin' Bergan
healing and casting is vaguely based on Drace
Striking has less spikes
Fending and Maiming is obviously based on the man himself
In the helm
Any way to search for the newest housing decorations? Looking for their names
Drace and Zargabaath are the cool ones
Fending is on spot.
Tanks get the best looking relic
The elemental armor for fending is
too
the monk weapons are gloves and I am all up on that shit
i want that new hair 
||https://m.imgur.com/a/YXyOszv|| Weapons with the glow
Whoa wtf
is that the pan
Yes
what are you cooking, LSD?
They all have a iridiscent effect
And supposedly special effects when you use certain actions while crafting
Do we know if the judge sets are for the same coins as before or a new currency/only dun drops?
Is it discovered where the new hair comes from yet?
Anyone know about the new emote?
50 clusters in bozja
Holy crap those armours. I nut 
Which lost actions do I take for the new 24-man? (Healer)
DR bosses have so much health
looks like the new hairstyle is dropped from normal DR raid
Itll be much faster once people learn and be better
wait so striking does have or not the cape
damn, SAM katana looking lit
On bun
Also damn, those really are the Judge armours from 12
What abomination of goddamn game design is this raid?
"Let's take everything that worked from Castrum and just nah."
Yeah I was surprised at how closely they resemble the original armours
brd relic reminds me of the hidden appearance for the beast mastery artifact in WoW Legion and I can't see it any other way
anyway, another bold step towards actually having capes
hot
i'm pretty impressed with the whole lot tbh
not many of that selection i actively dislike
The gunblade is hella hot
Now I need Dyeable version if these ones aren't
The katana too
Finally a good looking gunblade
fucking finally
rdm cool sword as well
Spoil story nao
yeah
tfw can't start because don't know where i put my relic weapon
so where do we get the new housing stuff? the bar specifically
Wait so did we figure out where Cerberus mount is from?
savage DR acheivement
was it hard?
Savage*
Well
Bosses have tons of health and it punishes
2 mechanics failed and automatic doom
for anyone trying to find the new relics by name, they're all called Law's Order
i forget was Mikoto captured and put in one of the echo stealing chambers in a previous patch?
YO THAT RAID IS SICK
She was
how was that resolved. i totally forgot
They didn't kill her just we don't know if Misija has a resonance aka Red Eye
||whatshername used Mikoto as a hostage to get us to witness what really happened to the Queen||
so they fixed the relics by making it so getting it outside of Bozja
requires you to do 15 CT raids

haha funny
15 Critical Engagements
Haha yeah! It's a new post to the Reddit, so looks like?
poor striking
MNK can never get good things
I can cosplay Gabranth now, excellent
i will never forgive whoever keeps reserving trousers for male characters
Gabranth is so fucking hot
No dual swords though
😔
Play FFXII zodiac age

I can pretend my spear is his dual-ended sword
no, im playing trails first 
it has a lot of qol and is waaaay better than the og
rip sam for sharing monk armour
Just pretend Vaan and Penelo don't exist and it'll be one of best games you'll have played
the healing/casting armor is still sexy
do we know how exactly we get those?
bozja
the ff12 judges
sexyness
@mystic dove currency from DR
And DR savage
Augmented version need augmented Bozjan
was not that bad
Poor Ghis and Zagabaath got no representation
first clear wooo
And normal DR gear
IT JUST GIVES MORE HASTE
so DR for regular, DR sav for augmented? and I take it only augmented is dyable..?
Already forgot who trades in the silver coins
I don't like the gear very much so I'm not into it
wheres the vendor
Gangos
is the new haircut in this patch?
Yes
where can i get it
do you need to be on same job as picked up as to get loathsome memories?
alr on mb so probs not savage
Since we have confirmation of Gabriel Delta mount
lockboxes most likely, yea..
I just cleared as well
nothing in a lockbox nor anyone mentioning it
quick question, does anyone know where the haircut is?
Probably DR normal
raid drop ?
ok thank you
uh where can I exchange silver coin
Gangos
it could be in dr i didnt see it so its atm good ol rng
Vendor near the dock
Dead
probably asked before, but any link to stats on new gear? more specifically blue mage
Garland tools has the new gear in it
Judge announced in 3 days Please Look Forward to it
All the new BLU gear has “mirage” in the name
oh fuck right I forgot the next xpac is being announced this weekend too
FUCK THAT NOISE LMAOOOOOOOO
do we know how many memories we get from crystal tower?
absolutely not worth
u gotta run it 15 times
Is that to augment the laws order boots?
yes
do I need to clear DR before I can start to work on the new step for relics?
yup
lol run a 24 man 15 times, no thanks
DR clear is not that bad, we just finished one
WHAT THE FUCK
Does the augmented law gear have more haste?
not savage, just regular
theres the weekly that gives u 2 gold coins?
yea
law gear has bozja bonuses?
i think only augmented
Are silver coins just the bozjan coins we already had?
nope
where are the crafting relics?
Got this on my first clear of Delubrum, anyone else gotten one?
Here I was hoping that they would make LESS reasons to run crystal tower... but no. 
what are the bonuses on the gears?
Haste and pentamelds
wait where do we turn the fucking shit in
Just finished my first DR run as tank. That was REALLY fun.
@rain onyx 1 more point of haste per gear it seems
@upper yarrow where uturn those in
we had ONE tank in our DR run lmao
Has anyone found out how we can get the new hair yet?
my party
Hot/Cold is a really nifty mechanic
lmfsao
Also I loved armored stuff as a healer
god this is gonna be so fucking painful lmao
Hot Cold is my favorite mechanic
15 crystal tower runs i wanna kms
^ hot cold best
where do i turn in my bozja coins
The vendor near the docks in gangos
got this on my first run
I'm rank 15 in Bozja & never done Castrum, do I need to do it before I can do this new 3rd step for the relics?
I uh
Why should they sell it if it looks cool
FLEX POINTS
WTF
anyone have the crafting relics?
was so tired that I thought everyone got one
...
I got the orchestrion from it
cause it drops in price where u can spend your newly accuired 15mil gil for
Silver Coins seem to be exclusively for trading up to gold coins, you need 100 silver for 1 gold
but also, really don't need the money
Ur like the guy who got millions in BTC @bronze dragon
And forgot his wallet password
anyone have the crafting relics?
from what someone told me ingame
CE's do NOT have a 100% drop for memories of the dying
yeah i just found out first hand
so wait what is silver coins for
didnt get one
silver coins only use is to convert to gold? not sure
sadge.
I'm rank 15 in Bozja & never done Castrum, do I need to do it before I can do this new 3rd step for the relics?
yes
yep
and someone said u get gold for weekly what
Ugh..
once u clear DR for first time, theres a side quest that gives 2 gold coins
ahh ok
Do you ALSO have to do the new raid or whatever as well?
who gives side quest
yes
before I go to bed
you need to beat DR to unlock the new relic quest
hair > DR last chest from what ive heard
clusters and DR
SHIT
guess I'll be farmin later
ty ty
what are requirements for castrum and dr?
Castrum is R10
DR is clearing castrum
Yes
Imma go lay down and try
dead and tired
Runs are gonna take a while for a few days
Until people rank up and get deep essences
They have lots of health and people die a lot
||the hot/cold shit killed me more than anything else||
question if we know, do the CEs or tower runs drop the memories if you aren't on the class you're doing the relic for? or is it like before and you just need to be carrying it
same as before
it does say that yes but so did the last quests
is there a picture of the haircut somewhere
yet you could be on anything
so wait if I'm doing the quest for my rdm relic
to complete it you need to be the same job
for testing purposes - the memories from Crystal tower raids do not drop on unsynced 😄 worth a try
but you dont have to be the job to get the memories
tl;dr spam syrcus
CT is a 100% drop
almost 0 chance of wiping on syrcus
CE's arent
To even out the grind
DO THEY WANT TO KILL BOZJA?????
Probably
yes
ok at least you don't have to be on it. thanks
It'll probably be same amount of time on both sides
I'm farming in bozja later since I need the mettle
You still need to grind mettle for savage cause you need 700K
since there's no info on wiki that i can see, what ILVL is next relic upgrade? I assume it should go here as it's the patch related.
510-515
510-515 yes
so people gonna be doing that
there is a stat allocation step
What does the new /malevolence emote look like when done?
evil
mhm
gochu
Same with the first i485 relic
i guess i wont bother with it then, unless i'll get premade somehow to do stuff
Because a DPS can be a healer in bozjs
as i just cant bother doing bozja as much that late in patch cycle when i wasnt here when it started
Slap some cure 2 and cure 4
DPS can be healer if you've got hundreds of lost actions to burn, poor design
omg where do you get the new emote?
That happens if you blindly queue, if you want evened out groups you should put up an alliance PF
Does anyone know how many Loathsome Memories of the dying Crystal Tower gives?
probably 1 per run
So. Bozjan Silver and Bozjan Gold coins. Where do you use them?
^
They tell you when you finish the quest
Ah, i assumed it was inside Bozja again

100 Silver to 1 Gold, Gold used to buy the 510 armor and it's augments
where you get coins?
Talk about a grind to get the augmented stuff tho. You need the augmented old gear plus the new gear to make the augmented new gear
After completing the first time, you can start the weekly quest to get 3 gold coins per week
So after you finish Delubrum for the first time, grab the quest One Man's Relic and you can complete it again for 3 gold coins
what are the new steps for the relics? first one is bozja/crystal tower, what is step 2?
honestly I don't understand
they made a eureka-like zone, but they give us options to NOT go into the eureka-like zone.
people bitched about eureka
Is there a list of new Blue spells yet?
I mean I understand that but there were also ppl that liked eureka
blue spells pinned
I think it's worse that everything outside Bozjan gives 100% drop chances. =(
Oh! Thank you
yeah honestly I do not understand that
they want ppl to do CEs, but they don't give 100% drop rate there
You are punished by doing those quests inside.
Also people don’t have enough time for another eureka. I think you could spend 12h a day for 2 years and still not have enough stuff to get what you want
Bit extreme
i dont like eureka or bozja
I love you can decide to do the quest either way. Inside the Area or not, but doing them inside costs a lot more time than just doing those quests for the relic outside. Which is discouraging you from staying in the instance at all.
but I want a relic weapon
On a related note, any tips for quick-leveling Blu?
none really
just go to the lochs
with someone else outside of a party
so you tag em and they kill em
Shiral - The thing is that if you want to do the new raid/savage you'll need to spend a lot of time in the instance
savage yes
So it makes more sense to grind that way.
new raid not really
DR normal just needs you to have finished castrum
DR savage yes
you need rank 15 for that
It has a mettle limit but it's lower.
Yes true but you also get coins for being inside, so I guess they had to compromise. Still the grind feels a bit much but kinda does have to be balanced between inside and out
Bruh
Yeah I just think it should be both the same drop rate
Do we have an iLevel for relics?
Why the fuck is the augment the only dyable version of the gl new gear
Did they change how you get augments???
Lol crazy amount of grinding to get the new augmented stuff
Gotcha
The cost of getting dyable sets is insane
it's even worse
I really wanted to be able to dye the gear
Yeah that is absurd.
But they made the standard gear undyeable
Well people were complaining last patch that there wasn't enough to grind
I guess they got their wish
But why is the normal gear not dyable
Huge grind and Gil cost. Regardless of how much you do casterum you still may never get the drops so the Gil is really the only way to get them
And they didn’t change the augment system at all????
nah this is pretty on point with korean grind
one korean mmo I used to play, has a 0.5-1% drop rate for one of the strongest weapons from an epic raid boss that spawns every 2 weeks
But on the plus side i have something to do until September (which i assume is when we'll get 6.0) and if i dont get it done its not the end of the world.
Its actually kind of ideal
Malediction of Water
Deals water damage to all enemies in a straight line before you with a potency of 200 for the first enemy, and 50% less for all remaining enemies.
Additional Effect: 10-yalm knockback to all enemies and party members in range
oh no
A purely optional grind to fill the space between expansions.
oh dear
Party member games
You are all removed from the field
Man it's been so long since I touched Blu I don't even remember what spells to use to grind haha
Anyone know where the new hairstyle is from?
DR normal
Is that confirmed now
Thanks!
Or still just a guess
kinda upsetting that you can solo dungeons now but you don't get exp from it
Until garlondtools updates, we probably don't know
as blu i mean
Well dungeons were never the I intended way to level BLU
why cant PLD ever get another big chungus sword like Curtana Nexus,these new relic swords are too small https://i.imgur.com/ssjbCT4.mp4
did anyone find out where the hair is from yet

it isn't Bozjan clusters
Scroll up
15 runs of lota

Blehhhh
dill farm with me
oh i'm big dumb, i forgot about level sync w undersized
Why is the last step of the skysteel tools not dyable :c
What do I do with silver coins
armor
I haven't even stepped foot in bozja yet
nah, syrcus. arguably faster and lower chance of fuckups
Silver coins get converted to gold coins at a rate of 100 -> 1
You can now exchange Bozjan coins for gear by speaking with the Resistance supplier at Gangos.
hmm
100 silver for 1 gold coin
Yea I know that
gl
So 1 Gold Coin = 5 DR runs
idk why people are surprised
plus the weekly for 3 gold
All this makes me never want to run DR again
this is the filler content until 6.0 and 6.0 is several months away
Savage probably gives some gold
Like, you shouldnt be surprised that this is the grindiest shit
has anyone seen a loathsome from CE's yet
And the augments is just bs
I’m guessing
I mean savage might drop gear too but
Maybe
Not sure tho
I doubt it though
It snot that big of a grind for the initial items
the real grind is the augmented
I only like the healing set
I like them
does anyone know how many memories drop from CT?
They dye like shit
All sets except Striking look great
ive done 8 CEs and...no memories
I like it
Dyes like shit tho
Fending dyes very nicely
the helms be pretty unique tho
What’s up with all these new gear sets that look cool and end up dyeing like shit
Looking at you tank crafted set
These deathflags on ||Mikoto|| with each damn Bozja update are killing me
does anyone know how to get the new hair, im jonesing for it
Least likely to make it to 6.0
lol
Just leave them alone damnit!
||tbh its probably necessary. giving someone future sight and making them a readily available ally of ours was a very stupid thing to do plot-wise||
Whats the relic ilevel
515

Custom Substats though
It will beat every EmEx weapon, and it will probably beat some unaugmented tome weapons
So judge armor is savage only?
No you can get it through normal
Airship from ff12 says hello
Yes, that was a ||"fuck you we win"|| moment, lol
dyeable judge armour is probably savage only
The bozja alliance will consume 700k meetle?
Wrong
Not consume
ok :p
Dyable armor is acquirable without touching Savage. Its a question of how much grinding it will take.
And rank 15 has a lot of good lost actions
Probably already been asked 10x times but do we know the ILevel on the new relics?
515
Any details on how to get the new housing items?
you're sick, go home and play
Dyeable is gold coins then i assume
NIN relic is dissapointing
The glowy white one?
I like it, it looks like its made out of auracite which it prolly is
but I dont like Needles
So i can stab Ascians
only crystal tower and bozja drop for the relic ?
it looks like a vampire steak
And suck their souuuuul
i mean its no BRD relic so i cant be too mad
How does the relic upgrade work
Anyone know how you get the new hairstyle?
lockboxes
Why does Striking get fucked.
I hope youve been doing bozja
Aiming.
Hairstyle and golden gabriel can drop from the final boss of DR
thats how the new relic step works
MNK's fault probably
that scouting armour doesnt look half bad
Only downside to the scouting set
Noted, thank you 
you see that black section on the lower boot? it doesnt dye
it has a dumb helmet doesnt it
Do we have any idea yet what is required for Resistance Weapon upgrades in this patch? (I mean what you have to do now to upgrade it)
So its not worth bothering getting dyable because it looks fucking dumb if you make it anything other than black
SAM, BLM, & GNB got the cool relics this step
It always will
Just move SAM to Maiming, anything but fucking Striking
Is there a new mount for doing Omega Savage with blue Mages?
It's so frustrating
maiming helm is with horns down
Augmented is dyeable but you need the previous armor set augmented
- a augment item
That combines the 2 sets
Yeah if you want dyeable judge armor get ready to grind until 6.0
The armor is true test of grind
striking, scouting and aiming is all the same except aiming got that stupid one pad again
Looks neat
I'll just use that program to flip flags to make the cape visible on the striking set
Im sticking with my Bloodborne-based Cryptlurker Scouting set tho
That'll fix my issues
I did it once to Turn the Maiming sleeves on, on that Nier striking coat
where we farm the new aesthetics?
All variations are built in, just gotta flip flags to make parts visible
I like how people were saying that "the Savage will probably be done in one pull each" and they've been struggling on the very first room for like 2 hours
Fending looks sooooo good in metallic silver / metallic gold
can anyone tell me please the name of that new chair?
I assume you still lose even in Savage so you might have to build up that 700k again
Yep
it's prolly been asked but where do you get gold coins
100 silver coins trade for 1 gold coin
other than that, and the quest
i'm personally not sure
I'm at the final boss myself but I assume you can get armor with silver coins and diable is gold
That is not the case
Oh no
That new judge armor need 1 gold coin to buy?
how do u get the new hairstyle
i did deliberam and don't have a silver coin?
Did you not open the chests
you only need 700k for the quest
hm maybe i do have them somewhere but i dont see in inventory

you can requeue thereafter as much as you like
Oh rlly nice
(tho you will need 78000 mettle for the weekly normal mode quest)
Did anyone figure out the ilvl of the weapon yet
(and then I'm pretty sure the next Bozja area will have more resistance ranks, so, lol)
Weekly normal mode???
for 3 gold coins
But the cap for nettles is 700,000
So how do you get the armour? is it rng drops from DR chests?
pentameld or nah?
they're absolutely gonna increase the cap, and ranks required, in 5.55
so if you get down to 0 mettle from Savage attempts....
gonna be a long grind ahead lol
you need gold coins, 100 Silver = 1 Gold
you can reroll the stats
Reroll stats?
like the Pyros weapon
Never did
Where do you buy it though, the vendor in Bozja itself or?
so it can be better than pentameld
Vendor in Gangos
depending on your RNG
right near the docks
tyvm
Am I missing something, do you really need 999 coins for bozja upgrades?
yes
Hello. Is there any new story content
Is there another way to get them?
Fucking what
If you mean MSQ then no
Note that they’re tradeable
I saw two in all 50 of my runs
How much gold is one armor piece then?
but they cost a fuck ton on the MB
and yes you can just buy them if you have deep pockets
The castrum augment is useless
I think I saw 3 or 4 in my 30-ish runs
3 gold
it's not "useless"
for healers, or any other job that really loves GCD casts
the Judge armor
oh lol
Yea but
well
Savage usually drops gear
nobody since nobody's even cleared the first room so lol
where do we get the new hairstyle from?
So 5.45 is really just "Run Bozja more"
yes
That’s half the point of the patch, so yes.
do the new skysteel craftering equip glow?
is there a new map?
pained noises
thats what they said it was gonna be
there will be a new map in 5.55
For new relic, i need make crystal tower or making big fates in front??
the other half is run BLU more
not fates, CE's
Blue is good content
you need to do CEs anyway for some new stuff
I know I like BLU personally
See I thought there was a new map already
just do CEs. fifteen Syrcus Tower runs per weapon sounds miserable
And that was the new content. That would be fine cause Bozja is terrible and boring to look at
New raid is actually fun
sick
yeah new raid is actually good
Hopefully people will actually run Castrum now
agreed
yup
its fucking bangers
cause people are doing the new content lol
Isn't it the same as ba?
wait a couple days
Normal DR is fantastic
there's no raise limitation or anything, there's just uh
No
EXTREMELY punishing mechanics
The new raid is sick
Me want shiny now
yea most of NA is sleeping or working
Nier raids are hella basic
Normal DR is honestly what i wish most Normal Mode content was like difficulty-wise
Note that Savage DR does have raise restrictions
got new mount woooo im happy
I think the Nier raids are fine, but
But the new raid is kinda meh visually
I don't really want them in this game
I assume only lost actions work for raising in savage
@junior sentinel where??
yup Savage DR you cant raise normally
Stuff like the lost Phoenix down and reraiser
so dont fucking die
I personally found Nier raids boring
Arise works but it can miss
but thats just me
@open verge final boss drop in the raid
like Zing in Dragon Quest lmao
Normal?
!action lost arise
yes
believe thats how u get the hair to
Gabriel?
the um golden gabe
it's the gold Gabriel
Golden Gabriel
golden gabriel
is that tradeable btw
Should be
dont see why it wouldnt be
Considering original Gabriel was
I need money lol
sad it just reskin and has no new music or animation to go with it
BUT ITS GOLD
and is bright neon lights
it tells people ur a real gaymer
has Cerb mount been found out?
achievement for savage run
normal last chest i think
better increase drop rate for augument boxes cause my god i love judge cast set
Knowing the devs you probably get it from CT
Man do people love CT
15 runs of Sycrus
TIME TO NOT GET MY FUCKING BARD CHEST
I heard you like doing crystal tower for the 1 millionth time
Blue mages unite
yeah talk about Resident Sleeper
I HAVE DONE 1000 RUNS OF FYCKING LOTA
in all honestly tho
AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN THE BARD CHEST DROP
where do the silver coins go?
FUUUUUCK
this grind isnt nearly as bad as previous relics
What's the ilvl on the new gear btw?
510
510
cheers ❤️
100 silver coin traded for 1 gold coin
it upgrades though right?
yeah you need to augment the old gear
not even haste?
you get haste too
fusing old gear and new judge get you more haste and dyeable
Does the judge gear look cool.
they are kinda meh for me but at least kinda unique
Even the funny monk one
say nin/mnk/sam are bit on weak side
Healers are sick
tank/caster/rng set least distinct diffrences
Nin and sam lookin at mnks for the removed cape
same amour asethics

What can I spedn the silver bozjan coins for?
100 of them gives you a gold coin
100 silver trade for 1 gold coin
5 runs of normal raid for 1 gold coin?
Is taht all they are used for then? and teh gold I'm guessing is for the new armor?
All the gear this patch has been super sick
100 silver for 1 gold apparently
Yep
Maiming is just Gabranth
does anyone know where the new hair comes from>
Then is it still like 14 gold coins for armor and 28?
No
Believe last chest of the raid
judge set as is with default color better be your cheese
It’s like 2 and 3
changing it color is heavy time or gil investment
OKay. SO it's like 5 and 10 runs for each piece then?
Thanks!
you also get 3 gold coins weekly from the repeatable
Oh sweet!
Remember each week you’ll get three gold coins s
Anyone know where the new hair comes from
yea so 5 weeks to get the full set just doing the weekly
less if you do the savage raid
hair is from clusters I believe
EVERYTHING COMES FROM Bozja
i didn't see the hair in the cluster shop
final chest
only the emote




