#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
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To be fair she kinda already was before ||Ardbert|| came along.
The reason her lips are so massive is because she is infact a Highlandy baby
New VAs for...
Cid?
Merylb
Yes?
Cid yes
i didn't notice a voice change for Merylb
I assume its because they are using different mics?? Maybe?
Merylb i cant tell
That's what i think
depending on covid restrictions in the UK where the recording for English voice acting is. The voice actors potentially had to record their voices from home
which means not being able to use the professional recording studio
I THINK Merylb has a diff VA? Intonation is diff. Cid.. i kinda liked his prev one. Nero.. unsure
Also regarding Eden ||Why the fuck didn't we tell Mitron who we were and what we'd done in his absence, there was kind of no point to him being a threat to us if we just were like "Dude, it's over, you sundered are free to do whatever||
Only VA changes i noticed are:
Cid is changed
Aymeric has gotten better, not changed according to people in here
Merylb i cant tell
Urianger's VA sounds sick, very raspy, therefor leading to the voice sounding slightly different
I dont think they'd dare change main cast VAs
Yea most of them arent changed, they are mostly working from home
Fandaniel is where most of the budget went. Dat animations. Sure loves hugging himself
he has no one else to give him hugs
Dude straight up just wants complete annihilation including himself
He's a... fan of himself
Cids main voice actor since HW has been Gwilym Lee.
Merylb wasnt voiced in the first quest she showed up in during 5.4 and i was gonna rage tbh, she barely has any voiced lines throughout the entirety of XIV, less then any of the other City Leaders. Thankfully she received voiced lines
Very.. semi wholesome msq this time
Fandaniel does give off a very Kefka mixed with Kuja vibe
Merlwyb has always gotten the short end of the stick for city leaders, and those sticks aren't even that big unless you're Raubahn
Dungeon was G.O.R.G.E.O.U.S
I will say throughout Eden I noticed alot of lines I felt like should have been voiced.
The dungeon was great
perfectly summed up
We get 1 dungeon this patch?
Like visually outstanding
Ye only 1 dungeon
@rare sinew As opposed to all the other patches with 1 Dungeon
and an EX
Just to confirm. Geez.
But we got a trial and 4 new raids
I know this was asked earlier but is there a list of all the new items that came out?
@brisk silo where is that hair from
Oh ya from the first cutscene I can tell Alphy VA is using a different mic
Where can I get it
Which trial is this?
Oh
Ah. Ruby?
Or however its spelt
that's creepy af
I hope he dies in a very satisfying way
Who's that weirdo
@next quarry thats what im asking qwq
Ruby weap i think?
Who's worse? Valens or Vauthry?
I never thought I'd hate clapping 👏
Anyone found anything abt the new term fandniel used?
Valens is way worse
just lacking the scars
I saw his face last patch via CMtool and thought they'd change his look
Guess not.
Just because it looked placeholder'y but nope, thats just his look.,
Anyone's thoughts on MSQ? FEELS like a mere sizzle ve last patch but thats a given
Well, I just had an emotional whiplash event
Man ||They keep making Zenos into more Sephiroth by every patch||
Wow, ||Fandaniel's|| VA is insane
Feels like a mere sizzle
BRUH ARE YOU CRAZY??
I LOVE his voice acting he's so into it
This is a CRAZY FUCKING IMPLICATION
Anyone knows where we can get this
so anyone know where can we get the new emotes?
He's probably literally gone insane from Covid Lockdown and just vents it through the Fanny character
I legit am annoyed at him. I think its cuz that type of villain annoys me
Huge emotional Quest payoff (You know the one)... then I turn around and There's the fucking "MY LOINS THROB LIKE DALAMUD" guy
All the new FF8 songs should have orchestrions too apparently
Yeah but with the exception of 3.4, most X.4 patches lay more of a foundation for the X.5 story to lead us into the next xpac.
Some neat implications are 100% what to expect from this part of the patch cycle.
Yes. I understand. Its just.. dont got the motivation for this villain.
Also, how the fuck are those Garlean design
All in all I think 5.4's story is really fucking good
he fucken said "nothing personal"
Im assumin we're fighting that certain somethin as a trial in 6.0..
I want to fight that badass pet he had
I'm doing the Yorha quest now fuuuu
Zenos: Are these women in danger? Fandaniel: NO It's just... the implication of danger. Zenos: So they ARE in danger?
T^T
New idle animations are good. Still cant use male DRK pose.
Also, where get hair
teehee
much better, apologies x.x
baby ...
Its the voice. The voice annoys me. Mainly because I've dealt with assholes like that irl
Emet did it better 😒
actually quick q but im super curious since i havent gotten there yet, ||do we know why zenos broke his fav sword yet||
He wants more dakka
||he's going to find a new one to hurt the warrior!||
hahahaha
To those doin Eden, on a scale of 1 to 10, how painful is it
i shouldve expected that :') thank you!
ehhhhh
Make a sword made out of the Marketboard. It's the thing that hurts me the most
Normal? About a 5
He's finally going to make the true Masamune
e9-4
e10-8
e11-5
e12-1
Yabai
I give e10 an 8 because ||I can not understand how the shadows work x.x||
I found e9 more annoying than e10
Yeah E10 was pretty weird.
e9 wasn't that bad, just don't stand in the same spot for too long
looks at cast time of 2.5 seconds
Legit died in the dungeon 2nd boss... npcs stood there doin nothing. So..
if you listen closely, you can hear a black mage crying as they have to move away from their leylines
E9 I got after awhile, E11 is the easiest fight possibly, E10 is... I'm not sure if I liked it.
Did Cid's va change
It's like a thousand casters cried out at once
E12 was just super fucking cool looking
E10 was confusing, so I'm gonna practice it more later
and then were suddenly forced to move
fuck e10
CAN YOU HEAR THE CASTERS SING SINGING THE SONG OF RUINED CASTS
what ruined cast
E10 was fine
The shadows are the orientation, not the model
just dualcast and slidecast lmoa
E11 was fun as hell
That's how it works
E11 was fun
E12 is kind of intense and Wiping on it means redoing quite alot of shit, but it was a spectacle.
E9 too, I didn't like E10
That implies you could even see the Shadows I just have to do more to get used to it but it made absolutely no sense
I'm very upset about ||ultimecia not being the big bad :(||
I'm scared about E12S
Does E12 have a checkpoint we did it in one go but it is long
No it doesn’t
Just cut out a paper model and put it on your screen
We passed the phase change and it restarted.
I’m happy it wasn’t ultimecia
then you can fight ultimecia
The boss still used junctions btw
so i guess that gaia model is savage
^
IT JUNCTIONED
What Gaia model?
WHENS TRIPLE TRIAD
TRIIIIPLE TRIAAAAD
from data mine
Yeah the boss in E12 used FF8 DRAW and JUNCTION, was awesome
Can u show
I highly doubt anybody is E12 Savage yet
THE ANCIENTS ARE DEAD CAUSE YOU'RE SHIT AT CARDS
I didn't save the picture but maybe somebody has it
I don’t want to see the other datamined stuff but I do want to see the model
Also the music ||Datamines show that The Extreme is definitely in the game||
Anyone have it?
twitch group I mod is still progging 10s
Oh, this one has emet selch on it?
I haven't found it yet, unless I haven't listened closely
It's mine now
I would be doing other stuff but wrist hurts hardcore so I need to take a break
The e11 right was so sick
my brain hurts from crafting
That design too really cool
The Extreme is ||E12S theme most likely||
I wasn in voice chat the whole time so I hope eden music is good
I hate VC, the last thing I ever want to hear is other people's shit mics when good music is playing
thats why i do msq stuff alone 
e9-12 wise I think most of 9 was the inital learning curve; 10 sucks in terms of understnading the shadow mechanic (as vitual boss position); 11 is like 9 but more unforgiving; and 12 is amazing thematically but really wears thin in terms of getting the mechanics down to memory (when delayed multiple draws go off at the same time)
11 was the actual best
delayed... draws...
Ashen one!
blehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Bear seek seek lest
So the paint emotes are treasure dungeons, right?
||I wouldn't be surprised if junction garuda and Ifrit at the same time||
i love these sets lmao
Roll roll roll
this patch wasn't anywhere near as long as i thought it'd be
My favorite music so far is E11
same, I thought it was underwhelming? I don't mind though, I gotta gear up crafting in a bit x.x
X.3 is the longest, the rest are tying up loose ends and shit
It’s the transition to the 6.0 plot, transition patches are typically short
i wonder how much the 510 gear costs
More than a few million
like, is it on mkb yet?
Yes
This is essentially the start of 6.0 shadowbringers ended last patch
damnit, i'm poor, i've only got like 400k
right now probably more since not many people have the materials unless they horded them and ignored eden to gather new stuff
i'd go spend time gathering and whatnot if i actually had dol/doh at 80
but i only started playing like a month or so ago
I have the feeling the macros I made are going to be obsolete very soon
I'm loving the objective name for the Yorha quest ||``Speak with... you guessed it... Konogg`||
Also that Tomestone gear is 10/10
so is crystarium where you unlock e9?
I can tell Yoko Taro wrote this
The Tomestone Fending set looks gorgeos, the striking set is good too
e9 starts in Amh Araeng (X:26.7 Y:16.7)
I'm gonna focus my DRG with the Eden Gear, and my GNB with the Tomes gear
does yorha quest give anything useful
It's too good to pass on
savage is unlocked at roughly there also
would like to point out that different pieces of gear are better than others, even if at same ilvl
It's basically Yoko Taro writing so you'd know to expect
Somewhat a little interesting Savage and extreme are not counted as separate quests they just continue on
no as in loot
I'll probably focus on crafted sets since eden norm equipment is a dead end upgrade wise
There's no loot only enjoyment
Is the new hair this patch or 4.1?
dont know enough about the hair yet might be future msq considering it's the trust npcs
typo on dusty?
fusty is a word
smelling stale, damp, or stuffy.```
is the new exterior the 'florist' one or is it half-timbered, i ASSUME the former and the latter is just one i hadn't seen before
florist
any pics of it yet? other than from PLL?
once 12n is done it goes ff8 ending permanantly
that one i dunno, half-timbered has been in for awhile though
It was the entire world fixed or is it just that small area
TATARU MADE A CARRIER
i think just the area, haven't seen any difference yet coming out of the zone although need to look closer at the background
I feel like it would make it a much bigger deal about it with everybody if it was the entire world assuming it's just that area and it's probably going to spread out over time
are we ascian yet
hopefully yeah although it would have required a lot of development time to have a version of the first that is "restored" (textures wise) unless it's limited to parts of the map not accessable normally
we were and never will be an asican
They are only the people who are tempered and being rise up
are we azem yet
oki ima wait next patch
You are Icecl
always
mhm
are we relevant yet
I'm never relevant
no
so we are still mary sue
I'm not sure why you expected anything else LOL
10/10 storytelling
am I high or did Cid's voice completely change in the cutscene with Nero?
I have yet to do msq but it's been so long I don't know even remember what he sounds like
new va i think. also i can't believe e9 is an alliance raid
no
Crystal may have cleared E12s?
i hate plot holes
can i die in msq and get shot in real life?
I hate it. It's so jarring. It doesn't sound like Cid. That or I'm having a stroke and he always sounded like that.
meanwhile me playing in JP Dub
i feel poor for this villains getting punked by no at alls
what no way
E12s that fast?
heard it in shout, so no idea
if they stopped talkin and get on with it, would have no more stories
i HIGHLY doubt
highly doubt anyone on any dc cleared 12s yet
JPN will mald if crystal got the kill
it's been what, 6 hours?
5.5h
yeah no chance in hell
No chance that’s just a troll
how long did e8 take again?
But crystal being NA first would be funny
spoiler
it would be hilarious
crystal wf would make everyone mald
zeno and fandaniel dies
even crystal would mald if they got wf
nobody said crystal sucks, they just haven't gotten (to my knowledge) a first clear ever
I wasn't saying crystal sucks
cymstahl sooks
picture implies that someone else said that
I would just have to make the comic malding
So... ||Can anyone translate the inscriptions of the compound ball in the YorHa quest||?
yes, already been done
can you post?
"get that weeb shit out of here, go spray your monitor after looking at 2b then go back to doing savage you plebs, and quit trying to decrypt stuff or we're going to make it twice as hard"
Did they change Zenos voice or im imagining things
kek 
ahhhhhhhhhh the joys of queuing for a raid as dps
Im tired of hearing VA changes in this game
plot twist: they killed ova with covid bc he wouldn't stop bugging them with his fanfic self inserts with the WoL
happens in a decade long game
It's prob quality change as they had to record from home
Dunno but it sounds radically different
eh i mute their VA and do my own voice impression anyway
None of the VAs except cid changed
Wait so I missed something what exactly is gaia is she ||a part of the soul of the ascian||
Its just since they are all working from home their voice quality is drastically different
any news on the cerb mount?
Is there full patch notes out?
Yeah, they've been out since around the servers went down
Changes over prelim are job changes, and fixes/known bugs
One that wasnt included is eden and dungeon belt has 2 materia slots unintentionally and wont be patched out
Pentamelded crafted is still better overall but thats really pushing it looking for fractions of a percent from the extra substats
I would be sad if crafted was worse because of the materia change
My money!
MY CABBAGES
Depending on substat possibly worse but its hard to tell since comparing is slightly annoying unless you like spreadsheets
Eden norm equipment has no future while crafted can be augmented in 5.5
I have no future!
gaia is a thot, rebellious teenager while ryne is lowkey into gangbangs and always snitches
You and me both :|

The second boss in the new dungeon, how
Clouds or something
Oh nvm
If its the pig, video game logic
sephiroth
I figured it out
In regards to people saying the voices changed — I don’t think any of the voices changed, not even Cid. Usually they have directors in the booth to help them with their lines but they are doing them from home now so there’s less takes for their line readings to choose from. No one changed. They just don’t sound as good as they usually do because they don’t have any coaching.
So im going through Eden and like
||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/375108983108927511/785896054696312872/SPOILER_unknown.png||
What exactly does this mean
Ya especially since 5.4 recording most likely happened in the past 6 or 8 months. Covid restrictions probably required them all to record from home. Thus hardware and recording software is not the same with everyone. And not everyone has sound/echo proof rooms
||If gaia is her true name and not her ascian title why would her parents have given her another name on top||
||Because gaia is the ascians real name||
So what's the highest number of materia anybody's seen someone blow?
||Gaia reincarnation of gaia the ascian. Whose seat is loghrif||
I saw 78
anyone know where to get the new hairstyle?
||yes so why would her real name be different from the name her parents gave her, we already know Gaia is her true name||
I'm confused though are they supposed to be || one ascian split into 2 ||
no
||because gaia is the name we know her as, the ascian name is the seat name while the body for the first is independent|| disclaimer I are lore dumb
uhh did zenos someone become unsundered? it seems dannys ending talk implied it
||they said gaia is her true name though||
||because gaia isnt this gaia real name. Gaia is the name her original self had. And mitron told her to use only that name.||
also || zenos is next wepon he uses a katana and the new next ai ra guy has longish white hair ||
||her parents when she was born did not have any idea their daughter was a magic death wizard and gave her their own name. And mitron has been stripping her memories away. To restore her original selves memories the memories of gaia.||
|| gaia is essentially the same as us I believe being that a reincarnation or A Shard or something ||
||aye. While we are azem. We are not azem. We are player name here.||
We are a portion of azem that developed independently
||inheritor of his/her soul essentially.||
Coronavirus has reached Eorzea
e9s enrage \o/
Now that Eden and emerald is done do I sleep
||I mean they don't explicitly state if they're referring to Gaia as we know's parents or Gaia the Ascian's original parents||
This fight gonna be "fun" in PF
|| I think he implies we are not worthy to call her by her real name Gaia and we should call her whatever her current birth parents are ||
that fun sounds sarcastic
did they replace ephemeral nodes
no
why can't i find any 😦
they're in different places
Is the 48 man out yet
5 spots now, usually nearby
Or is that on a minor ptch
check your gathering lof
||ok but I like the idea that Mitron is just an asshole and is trying to get us to deadname Gaia better||
Finished E12, guess we know 3 true Convocation names now
Wait what exactly is gaia to ||mitron|| I skipped cutscenes Lmfao
BFF
||Wait what gaia just got older||
@sweet spindle the new Eden casting armor resembles it a bit
Nvm flashback
|| Apparently it was okay for convocation members to date ||
Wait so is gaia an ||ascian||
yes
yes
|| Her current Incarnation is not ||
yo this lore is so good
Is the story good
also why are you putting spoiler tags on your words, this is literally a spoiler chat
bozja isnt for another month i think
Not for another 2 months
people shouldn't come in here with the expectations of others not spoiling
oh by the way, is the next level for the relic weapon out too?
no
pain
You need a boost for the 4 stars?
||valens is ded the Hojo stand in.||
So: Hades, Gaia and Artemis.
Now I really wanna know all 14 names
Ligma
What's so weird hedge is how venat does not fit with the naming scheme their going with the ancients real names.
Maybe Venat was a job title? Hythlo was one as well
Venat is Latin and means to hunt. The convocation seats are based on scions of light.
And venat is not a scion of light but occuria. Which were granted ascians pretty much
They both do the same thing. But I am of the belief unless said otherwise venat was her real name.
But it's such a weird thing. And while I like greek names making that the naming scheme for the convocation real name is a bit boring. Tho it's fine whatever not really something to complain about to much.
https://i.imgur.com/mgyDBKf.png
soo.....this is where the boobies come from
major trypophobia vibes. 
twenny boobs
Both I think
Since savage design is just ||gaia with a ultimecia x ascian style outfit||
lol wtf. i like this guy more than zenos already
I pray for Savage players that the add phase isn't nearly as long
Weeeeellllllllll
He's literally Kefka, just unbridled chaos without a leash
||if extreme song is any indication as it has the full build up from FF8 it's probably a long 1 and a half minute cutscene or add phase to let the entire build up play before the actual boss theme||
You like Fandaniel more than Zenos for having the same attitude?
Their the same character
yeah, but daniel is more fun
Zenos is just our version of Sephiroth
Honestly voice delivery to me makes up a big part of character enjoyment even if it's the the same type of character
only with more cake
I haven't done msq yet but from what I have heard from the trailer he definitely does pretty well
Zenos is honestly not much like sephiroth and has more akin to kefka in terms of backstory.
!faq juicy
Yea Fandaniels VA is very good
i mean hes loud n all, and his VAs performance is 🔥
It's just a weird statement to make
Personality wise
I don't see it sadly.
Zenos has a bit from a lot of the early villains
They're literally 2 apathetic beings devoid of empathy with the only rhyme or reason to keep them alive is a single anime boy
A nice change of pace from the uber-deep antagonist
Like honestly, I need me some processed cheddar dipping in-between classy meals
Yeah in hindsight it's a change of pace
I like spraying cheeze whiz right on my fine artisanal steak
do we know where the painting emote comes from yet?
maps afaik
No clue
I just dont see it sadly. Sephiroth to me is truly apathetic. While zenos I guess you can say is big brain play and based on the raider mentality. Hes that dude that's climbed to the top and has hit depression with nothing left. Also hes plagued by dreams of the end of the world night after night so that had a major hand in shaping him growing up.
Nothing quite like a gourmet Philly steak
Some goes for hat
OH @pine epoch also glad to see we were TECHNICALLY not wrong about us summoning an Umbral primal
We're not even sure if it is a primal
no pun intedned, e10 was dogshit
anything on where to get construct vi S from? I already see one on the marketboard for 50mil oh wait I see it, faux leaves
i just, hated e10
Though the build-up into 5.5 seems pretty clear-cut. Alisaie gets to work on fixing more of the tempered, towers start tempering folks en masse, porxies/angelos come to the rescue.
would also like to say alisae is literally experimenting with geomancy, and that the geomancy class should be in 6.0
Though there's something to infer from that scout shouting "Glory be to Garlemald"
inb4 there's a new eikon that enspirits the nation of garlemald, and that's what the towers are tempering people for
Inb4 it's primal Solus
When's this one tho
Watch the new primal is maduin from ff6
Time to fight giant carbuncle
Man Cryptlurker is such a badass name
alright whats the deal with the white orb
alright, time for e11
the best one
i came here to laugh at everyone that called the sweaty guy daddy and hot
Oh my god, I can't believe the WoL actually gets visibly upset when Cid mentions we can't use the G-Warrior
My money is still on Alphonse being the final survivor, he can still get out of bed in the morning. Square Enix haven't made him suffer enough yet
WHAT THE FUCK E12
JUNCTION
The real enemy was FF8's battle system
E12s will now have the boss play triple triad and consume the cards
8 just sucks cuz level scaling
8 sucks because I accidentally used the magic lamp
And summon diabolos
8s entire combat system is a joke and the story becomes inaccessible nonsense by the 3rd disc. People only like it cause of the school setting
So fandaniel is a suicidal maniac with a end of the world fetish. Great.
I... like it... and not because of the school setting.
He's Kefka and Kuja mixed into one
i can't help but somewhat feel like fandaniel's putting on an act
Like he's really laying it on thick
I like to break ff8 battle system and story is the most bat shit insane any final fantasy will get
Hamdaniel
I actually think Zenos is gonna end up closer to the emperor from FF2
ngl, i fear for 6.0 now
I really hope Zenos just swats Fandaniel away when he finds his friend
SB looked more promising than this
The void quest is the most promising part of this patch, and it's not even msq :V
Died, came back, wants to hijack Zodiark (effectively becoming the devil like the emperor did), etc etc
you have no rights about calling me sourpuss after you went on an hour about tempering being incurable
fingers crossed bois
Incorrect
all 3, i've gotten antiquated chest piece
Oh thats even better, specially since he crawled back from death itself
one more and i should be able to make new eden chest
I never thought about it like that
I went off for an hour about uh. I forgot. I think it was about special pleading and Emet Selch's tempering.
Not reading chat bc spoilers but did anyone find out where cerb mount is from
most likely 12s
What about the eden one?
Yeah, the emperor is one of the few main FF antagonists that haven’t at least been paralleled yet so it got me thinking
e12n was kind of bad compared to e4 or e8
The mount is Eden
the eden ship thingy?
He might end up being analogous to Chaos/Garland too but I think the emperor is more likely
That or Garland
A mini Eden
OMG
watch it be a mogstation mount :V
I can't find eden mount but it was definitely there
HOLY SHIT hahahaha
Yeah him too
And apparently had unique action too
Zenos has a little bot of Garland, Emp, Kefka, Sephiroth and Jecht in him.
... jecht?
jecht?
e11 was pretty alright
I can't help but feel like Varis might end up having more of Mateus in him by the time it's all over
and then the zenos pulled out his blitzball
Jecht is a cocky asshole. Way more cocky than any of the villains I named.
Or at least the eay he in Dissidia
Kek
pretty sure zenos is more arrogance than cocky, let's be real. it isn't so much that he's gloating about being good, he just sincerely believes he's so incredible that what he states is equally factual as talking about the state of the weather
I’m thinking he might hijack Zodiark for the MSQ and then hijack Hyedalyn for a raid (because him overthrowing heaven in Soul of Rebirth was technically optional content)

NEROOOO
The market is crashing
market crash lets GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Ya I know. Jecht can't shut up about being the fucking G.O.A.T. of the universe.
bleetzball
didney land
What, the market crashes as overpriced shit gets hit by a market glut on a patch release day?
NEVER
Zenos as he's dying: "Look at you, you're crying aren't you? You're always crying!"
Wasnt Jecht in X different than Dissidia Jecht
meanwhile, those pillars Fandaniel managed to set up across the entire world. They look awfully heavy.
Not really. He just gets more screentime in Dissidia so they can flesh him out more.
Those remind me of Chrono Trigger's black towers
Varis might do it too but Zenos’ stated goals would make him a blatant parallel if he succeeds so idk
Why does cid sound different than I remember?
All the VAs are working from home
like FFX jecht arc was he was a asshole drunk first became a body guard with auron then decide to sacrifice himself, while knowing that he knew he was a shit father
Probably having to record voice lines at home or at least not in the usual place.
So sound quality is all over the place
I don't mean that kind of different
Huh
You'd be surprised how different people can sound between 2 very different mics
Oh boy I sure am glad I get to do homework instead of relearning to play Monk
thats what my shit memory of ffx was
i dont really remember Jecht being extremely cocky in ffx
By the way what should I be doing in Perfect Balance? I've been spamming True Strike and refreshing Tein Snakes of necessary.
who the fuck thought this is ok
It was an oversight that they didn't catch until the day before patch.
hey guys where can i get the new bahamut jacket?
Shilling 11m on market or grinding maps
ahhh niceeee
i think you PB after bootshine so you can end it with no leaden fist i think?
thx grinding for that sweet treasures xD
Naw it sounds like they changed voice actor, there's a different quality to the voice, the voice has more gravel in it.
just did a listen to a hw cutscene with Cid in it for comparison
I would like to point to Daniel Southworth. When he voiced Vergil in DMC3, his voice had the odd nasal sounding quality to it. He then voiced Credo in DMC4 and, while clearly voiced by the same person, he sounded much different (It turns out he had a cold while recording his DMC3 lines but I digress). But yeah, same person can sound dramatically different even if not intentional.
EMERALD IS SO COOL
Wait Dan was Credo?!
new Cid sounds like a chainsmoking cowboy
Ye lol
I did not know this till now
Hard to say
Cause the voice actor for Cid in HW was not used in Stormblood at all
So... Gwilym Lee might not have been available.
Has it really been since HW since he had voiced lines
Yep
e12 was INCREDIBLY underwhelming
e9 was the only one i had a long queue for
It was all instant for us but we were three DPS in one tank Emerald took a little bit though surprisingly
Which G'raha Tia is this?
the best one
As someone who can't play the new goodies yet due to work
Are the titan landslide memes for real or is it just longing for the (good?) Old Days ?
Had to do with ping back then
E11 is hot
You're gonna get fucked by Titan landslides.
It can't be any worse than Eden Titans Landslides right ?
That's savage content. For an extreme, TEX was nuts.
I never did play the original Titan EX
I wonder if original pepsiman should make a comeback too, heard alot of things about that one
The short answer on Titan Ex is, if you get knocked off, it's perma (until the wipe)
That makes his knockoffs that much more of a threat--you cannot rez your way out of it
Oof
And Yoshi P confirmed, they kept that in Unreal
Granted I've never done Titan Xtreme sync to but given what I know of him from normal modes I can't imagine him being too much more complicated than Shiva
I never noticed, everytime I played titan ex (unsynced) we didn't have any falling occur
min ilvl titan ex is a bigger problem than min ilvl shiva from my experiance
oh god no
savage chest is bis for machinist
i'm gonna cry
correction i'm gonna fucking puke
So, Nier quest
||
the fuck is this implying? that Anogg was dead in a cave collapse way before we arrived and was copied by the orb? and Konogg's deluded himself since? when was the echo flashback meant to have been chronologically?||
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lmaoo I would never compared Shiva Extreme to the Titan Extreme. That dude walled off a lot of people from Ifrit Extreme.
from least difficult to most for me was Garuda Shiva < Titan = Ifrit
hrm..... 5.4 msq was rather short.
I think Ifrit was easier, you just needed a team with self-control to not blow each other up.
The nier quest sounds completely like yoko taro, love it.
titan and ifrit got their own problems that i cant say one is harder than the other
It's the same as any patch not including .3s
ah okay
So for people who cleared Eden, is Gaia/Ryne dead?
Maybe
is e11s boss thancred x ranjit? ryne's 2 daddies?
As an Au Ra myself I am not happy with who took over the weapons project
FF14 is a little too Disney, they're not dead.
Could I have a definitive answer?
I dunno
You're not getting one til the final story patch of the expansion.
only some people get killed
tbh, this raid tier hasn't had the best music
E11 was cool and E12 is cool, but I'm hoping the Extreme gets a good one
Was the leaker correct?
What leaker
Water and water and water water was only added because they didn't want 2 more bosses with force your way 😔
They're wrong
nope
water and water and water water
||how do i figure out shadowkeeper's real form alignment to figure out where to dodge?||
but my friend is insisting that the e12s boss is ultimecia but in different form
He's long
Water and water water and water water
what do you mean
Find an end and see if that's his head
I'd have to do it again to remember, but I remember it not being too bad
so the thing has a shape that tells me if it is the front or rear
im gonna do another run and see if I can figure it out
Also the positional marker on him
it changes when he does that?
Oh you mean his shadow move thing
glad we have just outright evil villainsthis time round
yeah the weird shadow tether that changes where the attacks come from
Ok so cerb mount not obtainable yet?? idk
seems like 5 teams are on e11s rn
Eden mount is e12s reward, based on garlandtools
e10s teathers look crazy to me
light rampant but in black
When do we kill Valens Van Varro
im the greatest mind of our generation
probably 5.5
called it
Oh nice we got the 2 korean exclusive glam in the patch
For trolls
man, this patch makin me cry in every storyline so far,
Extra role quests did it, Eden did it, MSQ now
we did it boiz
did we get an obtain method for the cerb mount?
Nice
Is that savage
savage?
yea savage
How was it
wow
Fight is punishing af
Cerb mount is not on garlandtools so might be for later patches
can you get me a written guide somewhere
It's really really easy to kill other people and it's really hard to recover
i need to prepare
I will say, about MSQ so far. Whole lot of "And Then You Waited.... Done," so far
I don't think there are any written guides yet
guess that's a given in a transition msq chapter
is the locking square part switching between 2 spots
idk what PF is gonna settle on for spots
cuz there's a part that I really hope ppl don't do the obvious spread for
Is there a fan option?
The mounts that are available to get this patch it seems
So Diamond Weapon is gonna have Zenos's data
Sticking together?
Don't think there's a fan option
Where do I get snowman
There's a part basically where there's a knockback, then you drop puddles and then you get tethered to the nearest puddle plus a random person of different role, and you have to break both tethers while also dodging to a safe spot that's either N+S or E+W
highly likely to be from the christmas event
i want cerberus but thats eden sadly
Its not
Cerb we don't know
oh
And if you just drop the puddles at clock spots it makes things really hairy and people tend to die to tethers not breaking
Eden mount is eden prime
Xmas event so whenever they announce it
Ohhh
Did they change Cid’s voice actor?
The puddles also stay for the rest of the phase and can make moving around really difficult
Reminds me of a way more complex 1S lasers
I need make an MS paint diagram
Could a kind primal soul here craft me some gear if I provide the mats
I watched a few e9s streams before my nap, one of 'em did sorta, section off the roles into quadrants-- IE DPS in this corner, healers in another,
Ahh
the tethers are the sort that, the smaller they start, quicker they break
Yea chains are like that
it's like the Titania EX tethers
dropped the seeds roughly middle of the quadrants, hovered middle, adjusted to whichever quadrant parted their seed and opposite teether
When is the 48 man coming
ShB 5.4 MSQs are done. Now to do these normal and extreme/savage raids next
Eden's Promise is fantastic,
OwO
the mines?
The balls that shoot out of his hand
...but that's in phase 2
I'm calling golden phase 2
So ill ask here just to get a sense
I know there's 3 new Raid songs
But is doggo like... a repeat song, or just one of the news repeated?
E10?
I understand E10 now, did it without dying
Most of my "New Patch experience" is listening songs
So yes, E10
It's a new song, same one used in E9
I made an MSpaint diagram
i saw the orchestrion in a roll
You can't drop them on top of each other cuz they give a vuln when they hit
Aha, so the new FF8 song. .o .
As someone noted
Really interesting to fight an FF3 boss at FF8 songs
Anyone got pics of the Emerald weapons?
Is the safe spot always N/S?
like 1 minute in
Oh
But then it happens late in the fight and has 8 towers instead of a cardinal safe spot
Oh wow these Void Quests truly are about the void,
Towers are intercard and far intercard so we just had melee touch the inner edge of theirs and ranged loop around
Is the big AoE still there
The puddles covered a lot of the towers but you just need your toe in them
For that part no
Though there's another spot near the end where she does a half-arena cleave then either 2-man stacks or protean and the puddles make life a little difficult there
That's before the whole disappearing panels thing incidentally
Do we have an idea of what the mounts look like?
The thing with the panels in savage is that if two people step on the same square that square drops like a second later
Could you put puddles on disappearing panels or would that just be useless
The puddles disappear when the disappearing panels happen
Oh
There's base arena then forest then panels, and then it cycles through that again
We found the best solution was to put melees on intercards and ranged on cards because the available panels are uhh this shape
E9S huh?
and the panels drop after being occupied for liek 5 seconds straight
Don't you have to stand in the glowy squares
no, the squares start glowing when you're on them
Oh
It's you can't stand one squaree too long- and, in savage, can't have 2 people on 1
If two people are on one or you stand one one for too long it gets destroyed
I'm just going off of what I saw watching Tate's prog stream
And the boss does other mechanics like adds spawning or a half-arena cleave
So PF is gonna have to figure out who adjust where cuz the half-arena cleave is an exercise in logistics
In e10s shadows adjust 
Tate's team had a sorta cog system going on, melee would be on the inner cardinals and rotate, ranged outer cards and step in, with further rotating or adjusting for the requied Arts of Darkness
One of the sides (north/south) needs people to move over two squares to make room
Yee that's what worked for us
This tier so far doesn't seem to have a lotta melee downtime
Which groups are on e11s?
I can't wait for those no indicators Casts and Charges on Eden's Promise,
I'm surprised E12 was so... stationary,
Ok tate's group just cleared e10s
MMMM
7.0 TO THE THIRTEENTH HERE WE COME
that is not the case, for 9 at least
I think it can probably be optimized to give more ofc but melee/tanks have to peel off a decent bit
You can't hit Cloud from the intercard squares?
I guess e12s is going to have a second form... do we know anything yet?
so, as someone still DL'ing 5.4 what are the new eden bosses? i know one of em is cloud of darkness
||An extravagant Gaia model||
hm I just realised that people are at e11s, so i guess we dont know much about e12
Actually... Maybe cerb is blu reward
You can hit it from there, there's just other stuff where you want to break off
What
😮
There's one mechanic where I didn't even get to unmend cuz I was respecting mechanics
ryne and gaia just made a pride rock
Unknown use, prrobably E12S:
with rainbow flower petals 
Speaking of which, the wide/anti-air thing is a little bit obtuse
So knowing how that works will save a looot of grief
Did Cid's actor change?
Pile what fight are you on rn?
Seems so.
The new one sounds like it was recoreded on the floor of a bathroom
We're taking a break rn, prolly gonna get emerald weapons then go into 10
Gnb weapon
looks like shit
rip that hand
Gotta say. I didn't see all these Eden plot twists happening.
I'm gonna do Eden before msq
as you should
why
Well some theories were correct-- but we did have a dozen dozen of 'em :'D
whaddya why?
it's more important than the MSQ this time
Lots of spoilers can happen
True
Brah, no one saw E11 coming
E11 is hot
I did do Safekeeping first, then Eden, then ssssome MSQ but I came back to the Void Quests
Continue playing~
you are...half correct
Oh I'm not playing
actually 25%
With a...Gunblade?
Hehehe
As well as white hair?
Daddy Issues EX
||sin eater Thancred Ranjit||
So...Ran'cred?
--Ran'jit did have white hair tbf, or grey, I suppose
Therapist: Than'jit isn't real, he can't hurt you
Than'jit:
Well yeah but his is long
E11 is a fusion of Thancred and Ran'jit
And inno
I saw no Innocence in there
Basically, Eulmore, the fight
Thancred and Ran'jit had a baby and then the sin eater came along
He's a sin eater, with the wings
Remember, this fight is basically just like any other Eden primal
it's a summon based on Ryne's cognition...though it's a bit odd
circumstances and everything
aaaaaand i'm done
I think Mitron was just taking advantage of her memories
Dread Hope: Fatebreaker,
what a good ride
Kind of the weakest of the boss titles, but I guess it's meant to keep his true meaning very obscured,
Who the fuck thought Eden was Mitron's mutated body? No one.
why would a sin eater have computer terminals
I'm pretty sure I saw that idea thrown around before, "Ascians made it" was just the easier one
Who expected Gaia to be a reincarnated Logrif? NO ONE
So can we suppose that Gaia is Loghriff real name ?
Yea
COUGHS LOUDLY
M-most did, Ehva... Well, one of the two
Yes. And Mitron is Artemis
I've been saying Gaia was related to the ascians--either to Emet or a shard of one, since 5.01
that's vague buddy
'oh Urianger's just talkin shit about saying Ryne she has a soul similar to an Ascian that's not actually important'
Why's Artemis a guy tho. Gonna give us the names of one of history's most Sapphic icons in THIS storyline and it's Gaia' boyfrie--
Naw they pointed out she had an Ascian soul in 5.01
wtf is e12 :o
My only question was 'Was it Emet, Mitron, or Lohgrif'
E12 is...Eden's Promise
Was it Ascian soul or was the place of "oracle of darkness" just so incrediibly likeely to be connected to Ascians
which is weird af, not gonna lie
So far the msq was really good except for Fandaniel who... i don't know he's not a fool, he's nihilist but i can't find him "funny" the way i do with Kefka.
Eden was good.
The weapon was fun but ||no tentacle||so i'm sad
Role/void quest was interesting and..... don't give me that "how could they be shard ?"
OH Dis did you do the story yet?
esp if the analog is Miss "I'm basically an Ascian" Minfilia
Not quite yet but I know enough

Why is this channel just an extension of #archived-lore-spoilers
It is
Aaaaaah, I need to talk about the fucking Fandaniel dialogue
No, my original theory was either a reincarnation of Emet, or of Lohgrif, or of Mitron, because we're told that's how souls work
Lunar Bahamut, huh?
so has everyone found all the towers scattered about?
I'm confused as to where the story is going from here? People are being tempered to Garlemald via the towers?
That's so not solar
also did Eden get the Disney ending I'm expecting iy to get?

Oh, I meant the odds of Gaia as an Oracle holding an Ascian soul, since, they're the main entities to do this type of body hopping and Minfilia explicitly compared herself to them as she did the same,
Rather, it was far more likely Gaia was tied to the Ascians than not
And I am guessing the next xpack will be around dealing with this? Hard to top shadowbringers with that :/
Yeah but people were going 'It's ultimecia time travel shit'
6.0? Ilsabard and Garlemald
Glad that Ultimecia didn't show up as someone's true name, woulda just felt a little too on the nose
Yeah, nods though are fine. Little winks at FF8.
Eden's Promise as ||Ascian Prime + Eden Prime|| is nutty
That's fine. The Extreme seems to be an orchestrion scroll though
Honestly I wasn't expecting another Ascian Prime
they didn't use extreme in promise?
and I'm pretty happy we did
Nope.
(hope for it in e12s ???)
I like how they distinguished this raid series from ff8
E11
WHAT
I rolled a 87 on it, didn't get it
it's very much not ff8 at this point
Why is an arr track in e11
Buddy, it's used in all expansions except ShB
||Didn't really like Mitron as the crazy ex-boyfriend but touching to see how genuine he and original Gaia were at the very end, before they both fall back to where their souls are now
||
Ahh, I thought the Mother Porxie would use a new boss theme
Sadly not
but it's all Insatible
|| Really I'm curious why Gaia was wearing the Shadowless gear, was she given that upon being brought back to the seat? ||
Did you check the orchestrion list?
I clicked on it briefly just to be spoiled by the comments, so I closed it immidiately again
It's in MGS.
I read that as MSG and now I'm hungry
i wonder what the secret phase in e12s is gonna be like
preferably something wacky and also a bit wild
Mitron with gaias head popping next to his
E12 did feel fairly... simple, esp for the FINAL final fight, other than the Junctions
oh wait people probably datamined this stuff
Okay
i am out of this channel now 😎
yes its datamined already
I do not understand E11 circles
but its not really being discussed 
Just the model, some dialogues, and tooltips of their debuffs, not much to go off of in that form
adel?
idk i just found it wacky
--Oh wait, all those ||Spells-in-Waiting|| from the datamine
Ref to ff1 inside dnj
So how do you do E11 circles?
||SHE'S GONNA SPELL-IN-WAITING THE PRIMAL AOES ONTO PEOPLE ISN'T SHE||
As far as I understand E11 circles
- Attack name dictates mechanics
- Fire AOE doesn't reach into all thunder circles
- Thunder only strikes within thunder circles
E12S model was posted above 
Ah
Slowmode 
youre telling me
I think expanded aoe is decided by the particles while he's casting,
Yeah
so lightning or fire,
Fandaniel literally just wants to die and everyone with it?
It was not consistent
e9-10 did kick my ass, but i didn't play for month 
That is an interesting villain
thought he was a Kefka but the lad's really a Kuja
he switches up the circles in the other half I think.
We struggled through with frequent deaths
||Mitron is such a piece of shit oh my god||
yeah don't compare him to kuja you leech 
I've been reading Mitron as Matron this whole time
||Ascian prime, more like Fashian prime||
Idek what FF Kuja is from, ||wasn't his desire for death so potent it summoned Necron||
Cause he dresses nice
FF9
@subtle pasture 9
huh no, totally not
There's a lot more to Kuja than just that
right, Necron is 9, I knew that part
Chad Fandaniel vs Virgin Mitron
i would say it's the exact opposite
Wtf, I have no world queue
triple triad open tournaments are dead lol
The Mitron reveals came a little too breakneck paced for me but it was a whole lot we expected to some degreee
ff9 spoil ||Kuja did "summon" Necron because he destroy the crystal and it was draw by his fear of death ||
chad fandaniel vs virgin zenos
The new cposes are pog
What is this, a shonen?





