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please no
Given how Matsuno treats main characters in Tactics Ogre, he'd probably be willing to commit and kill people...
please for the love of fucking christ
But I'm not sure if he still writes the same way
fran was gratuitous enough
Got it, kill Fran
The whole, horny playerbase would riot

wait
you didn't have anything to do with the Bozja story... did you Yoko Taro?
(giggles) no...
is this content a legitimate tie in to an old FF besides haha references
Not really, no
!item essence of the profane
What lvl do you get the bozjan armor?
gotcha
I heard the hoods even work on bunny
What type drops skirmisher
Awakening
what hoods?
Red Chocobos drop them pretty reliably
@polar star
||Well now, looks like were going to have another primal slaying 8 man duty soon||
its fucked.
once a primal tempers you cannot undo unless something goes awry like our kobold friend
ohhhhhhhhhhh shiiiiiiiiit
I still need to clear castrum
again DO NOT click the spoiler if you havent done castrum
||I'm gonna guess the next location is Dalmasca||
||But technically, we lost Castrum Lacus Lactorie, so I'm not sure||
maybe ||ashe will show up being alive after all||
rip cleared twice

now i never getting inside gabriel
just ask nicely
Just come to primal
i got my 2nd construct 14 now
also
Or at least aether
finished 4 relics
can you be any class when farming memories
Ye
yes
Apparently, the Bozjan Aug gear crates are selling for 15 mil....
Hello cash
not sure if they sell tho
they are unique and untradable

oh wait the crates
but yeah big doubt
bozjan gear is worthless
I like the glam
@next quarry NA is fucking lazy
So anyway I watched the post Castrum cutscene
Didn't see that coming
ive heard its hourly
1 hour
Penlo
Also I get the feeling the dev team hates Roes
Especially femroes
Can't stand the sight of a strong woman

The first notable Femroe since moenbryda and we have to kill her
well
Is that jojo reference
she isnt actually alive?
why cant they add a timer to be shown for castrum
Who
the queen
No I mean the traitor
ah
Can't remember her name
π¦
mijinda
so.....im gonna cluster farm
or something like that
I expected the bunny to be the traitor tbh
If you can get a group go and you can get a lot really fast I went from 20 to 90 in like an hour
the traitor is just roe copy of fordola
Good luck getting people to a tually farm for their clusters
yea
i did twice
They just want them to drop 10 a time from Skirmoshes
I haven't been able to find another group
but idk about na
Because NA is full of lazy bums
The first notable Femroe since moenbryda and we have to kill her
@viscid monolith
Can't remember her name
@viscid monolith this is when you realize she's not that notable
^
Says more about me tbh
It felt weird to see our character acting powerless
Here we slay ancient beings of the old world but a woman with a gun is too much for us
Me: it's PRIME TIME. everyone is home. We can finally get a castrum run in!
Castrum Pops.
12 people registered

and ends up hroth queen is just a wannabe odin
they simp on anyone with the sword on hand
How do you check how many people there is in a instant anyway people always mention it

I'm actually not sure what even happened with the queen
@wary pond noted
How did she bring the queen out of a memory
open player search
primal bs
sort by rank
i'm assuming the sword is charged with aether
yeh
and see how many ppl 10+
and now this bitch is gonna get absorbed soon
I wonder if we will find a cure for the enthralment of primals
enthralled no more no less
If I'm understanding the earlier cutscene, the sword Save the Queen is itself a primal
basically fordola with nidhogg eyes that allow you to summon the reincarnation of odin
its a run
we still havent fonud a way to turn our kobold friend out of the near vegetable state he is in
would be nice to finally find a cure for it
hroth queen everyone π π π π π π
lel
With all the Blades tempered we're gonna have to kill them
I just got into a duel, can I beat this without lost actions?
not that i dislike the story but it's such a mental gymnastic to not add a hrothgar queen
Which sucks because I liked them
Full instance of rank 10+ and only 17 people join CLL
Fuck
So why is the end of the Castrum battle so depressing? Someone spoil me
Does anyone know if you can trigger the red chocobo fate? My friends and I spent half an hour killing red chocobos and it didn't spawn at all.
The Blades were putting in work. Deleting mobs left and right.
once a primal tempers it cannot be undone, your screwed either way
that or you turn into a sin eater

@gloomy shale Duels need lost actions
Here we slay ancient beings of the old world but a woman with a gun is too much for us
Guns in combat: heheh... that tickled
Guns in cutscenes: instantaneous death machines
its pretty weird as im doing GNB quest while this happens
so im like
"ahaha yeee.."
and yes why the queen is a fkn thot?
@wary pond Thanks so much
@wary pond primals can look different
and this isnt necessarily just a primal
its an elkion
funny how garleans are like
its ok to have an eikon
and i thought they would go apeshit
Cleared
The real queen dressed like that too
Castrum clear π©
I dunno why
gz
no one?
Anyway the IVth is defecting from Garlemald so they have no issue using a primal
now that i think about it, its possible we could theoretically save the silver haired bitch like we did with estinian but that depends if their mind&aether is too far gone that the eikon ate it all up
C'mon just message me, I won't be able to play for a while and I want to know how Castrum ends
dont skip cutscenes maybe
All the Blades of Gunhildr get tempered
@wary pond yeah I don't
Milinja summons Save The Queen
and so shes basiclyl tethered to the eikon
which means we cant save Milinja
She summoned the Primal Like a stand
save the queen is basically odin like powerful sword
Ya
only queen can activate its power
Well she was dead to us when she turned traitor
save the queen is basically odin like powerful sword
That's a great comparison
Which one is Milinija? Is she the one with sunglasses?
as strong as zetsukuken
Or the gray haired one
the silver haired lady
The Roegadyn lady
the mroe she feeds the thing hatred & revenge the more far gone she is anyways
much like the lizard folks hatred of the humans
the mroe she feeds the thing hatred & revenge the more far gone she is anyways
Oh. So like tsyu
or w/e else beast tribes hatred of anyone else to summoning their eikons
is why they killed old queen while being unaware of em
or she would delete anyone
i feel like either this will turn out like a Tsyu situation or Estinian situation but instead of saving it ends with her death

Apparently, Milinja's ancestor was the original user of Save the Queen. She was a handmaiden who volunteered to use it in place of the Queen since the Queen didn't ha e the echo. After the invaders were repelled, The Blades of Gunhildr killed the handmaiden because she was lowborn and they didn't want her to be powerful.
So we're back to class warfare
It always comes down to class warfare
like in uldah but worse
gilgamesh has to be involved of bozja
the class warfare in uldah seems tame compared to the entirety of bozja
Bozja itself had a very rigid class system similar to Ishgard
he would like that sword
so then
Duels have a 9 minute enrage
all bozjans must dier
9 mins enrage
Just the rich ones
That's why Milinja betrayed us anyway
She was lowborn and mistreated by highborn Bozjans. She had to walk 2 hours every day to get to school. The garleans treated her better, so is there any wonder she betrayed them?
if you arent a tank
u need manawall to survive mustadio pushback + tower
in gabriel
lyon need dispel the wind buff
i highly doubt her vengeance will be as the scales of Nidhogg
We know almost nothing about the North duel
and flare mage cast bio 4 that need to be cleansed
can also dispel his transformation
to fire living liquid
which make bio 4
not hurt as much
does anyone know if bitter memories are rng in bozja or have memory drops been figured out
rng
rng at most
rng, from any mob
also quick question does higher rank give any kind of stat? or is it just a number
no
Dis what did you think of the story conclusion
I haven't finished CLL yet
Oh
make u appraise higher fragments
Don't scroll up I spoiled the entire thing
More mettle gives you more room to slot fragments and access to the big fragments
okeyyyy
thanks for the heads up
Main thing tripping people up is the black meteor markers
Eh
They run into where the meteors are going instead of where they already were.
The proximity meteors have a really hard drop off
Is the bozja dungeon hard?
Just use reflect for the proximities
Does that damage the boss?
yes
Wait really
With enough people itβs really easy
Not much. But you take 0 damage
yeah casteum is what i meant
So I can just go directly under the meteor and do tons of damage?
Even funnier when youβre standing on a proximity marker with the stack and you see people freak out
And you just reflect it for 0 damage taken
The math fate is too easy too
nooo dont stand there!!!!
hahah reflect gobrrr
Even with the mindjack
I don't even know how people can say Eureka was fun when Bozja is so clealry superior in every possible way.
Maybe now they'll see it for the dogshit it always was
I got the mount but Iβm selling
How so?
my only complaint
And they really need to not have castrum and a CE pop close together
They literally said they would be a ballsfuck
They said 'hey, this shit will be hard'
A what
Has anyone beaten the middle or top zone duels?
getting picked by duel
No Freeze
among 30 ppl
I've never seen 30 people qualify for a duel
You get maybe one shot a week.
There's no way to do that really
And you'll need to prog/learn 1 attempt at a time
i saw 34 ppl in gabriel
Wow
Highest I saw for Gabriel was 26
i was like
That group was a different breed
no way in hell
But yeah that's ridiculous lol
i can get picked
Have it scale up depending on if 4 people even qualify
Buffs don't effect duels
Only way to qualify for a duel is to not get hit by any avoidable mechanics
Wait really
Yes
Learning the fight...
1 attempt at a time against at least 10 other people in an roulette picking system sucks
I thought it was just random
its random
Esp with how the fight needs you to KNOW it and have actions for it.
after
I consistently get qualify for the Lyon duel because I don't get hit anymore
I'm pretty sure I've gotten picked after dying
I guess
Hmm
As they do
Hi Lance
Hi Teddy
Bozjan secrets are going for 18m in my server but no one buying
My FC is assuming if you don't get any vuln stacks you qualify for the duel
Every avoidable aoe in every CE gives a vuln stack
wtf are bozjan secrets
augemtn Bozjan armor to give haste
oh
i can get lyon and flare mage easily
cause ppl still bad at red chocos and metal fox
but gabriel? just forget it
@eager fox Yes exactly
When the duel sends out invites you can see exactly how many people qualify
Lyon is so ducking sick
Quack
Then someone from that pool of people is randomly selected
When I got picked it was a pool of 7
Lyon is so ducking sick
As a guy or as a fight?
His design is cool
Guy
lyon does same mechs in castrum
and add some more of it
After I beat him I'm using his hair
I think his personality is really cool
Reminds me of Jecht
F
That cutscene after you beat castrum though 
he uses twisters
and liquid hells
exaflares + liquid hells+ twisters
He's totally Jecht

He goes brr
He fights
He doesn't like being told what to do
And hes half nude

The hair is 120 clusters i believe
150
And the mount 180?
ye
Joe Dirt 
I'm guessing the mount price is rock bottom now that people are farming clusters
Can you buy the Gabriel mount?
I mean. The clusters are still a PAIN IN THE FUCKING ASS to farm
Just make cluster farming party 5head
There's a spot in southern zone that people farm
Theres charts in pinned
no they arent
Same with like 90% of the nonboss fragments
I need to turn my gtaphics up and take nice pics
Cluster farming should be quick
Yeah?
Get 4 people, split up into groups of 2, go to to different sections and farm magitek mobs
I image in group and mass pull you can five times that
Everyone in the party gets clusters regardless of where you are on the map
Mettle is meaningless after rank 10 unles you want min max
Bozja Doll being triggered by sound is 
you get more things with higher Rank?
im sure itll need to be higher once theres a new zone or somthing
Yeah
Yea which is why I said min max
I'm rank 11 and I can't open my fragments from Castrum
You can open some cant you?
Ya I opened some
Yeah you need rank 12 to open some
Got the permanent Bloodbath action
Dunno if there's more at 13+
I was almost 12 when I logged yesterday
Increases damage by 40% and absorbs damage dealt to enemies
There's also more lost action amounts when you have a higher rank
Idk which relic I want next
But ya. Once people get to higher ranks they'll probably start forming parties to farm clusters
I don't even know if I can do another relic
Good
I still need 5 memory
Use fates if you want the relic
Cluster parties also double as memory farns
And I'm at rank 12 almost 13
You farm clusters in the first area
Duct use bozja
Bitters also drop from bozja
Bozja is fine
Shit drop rate
CEs should drop guaranteed memory
Or at least it would be fine if people used it
Bozja drops bitters better then dungeons botw
The drop rate is fine. You have to farm mobs and not Skirmishes for memory
If you do bozja for bitters itβs way better
Any mob on the map can drop memories
I got 9 bitters from doing cluster farms
Teddy do you have pin privileges
Not I just need 2 more for my π©second weap
If anyone has any comments, fixes, ideas, questions or concerns you can comment on the reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/javwyl/bozja_fates_info_guide/ Thanks! Skirmish Fates Number, Location, Spawn method, Name/s, Follow on fates/duels Names in red are th...
I just pretend to look important
@warm bone Could you pin this
Increases damage by 40% and absorbs damage dealt to enemies
Wait thats good actually
π³
It's an exclusive drop from Castrum
Also i like farming great gubal hard when the tank is on board with w2w
There's an even stronger version but I think you have to be rank 15 use it
Its easy and i dont have to think about it much
Understandable
I need to look at my potions
I neglect them
Oh hey 3rd Gabriel
Is there a list of all known lost actions and potions?
Haven't found one
Thanks Wynne
Hi Aza
I've never been above 20
Before it pops, start warning people it's up
We did
What people don't know is you can quit a CE by returning
But everyone thought it was gonna be like BA
And lose nothing
Aether is just stupid aza Β―\_(γ)_/Β―
Make sure you tell people they can use Return
Not as stupid as aether
Didn't go well
By the way
Aza yell at them
Has it been confirmed that you need to kill certain mobs to spawn the Behemoth CE?
All of them
Because I haven't seen it yet
I haven't yet either
I assume it needs to be triggered
Wait
Actually I lied I saw it once yesterday
Construct is in all areas though
wut
Nah there's a Construct CE in area 3
There's a ce construct
Area 3 has math boi CE
It does math
Yeah
That's what I meant
And does a super spinning laser
math+forced march
I don't think I'll ever get to do CLL
Don't give up
People doing it are gonna leave
People will be higher rank this weekend
I think it'll be better chances then
I hope...
Have you cleared it teddy?
You don't even need that many for CLL
Nope
We cleared it earlier with 20 people
Best I got was 14 people
Same
then you have enough to split the top and bottom
Yup
I really hope enough people are on soon for it
Nobody wants to Cluster farm either
Nobody wants to farm memories
Nobody wants to farm fragments
NA is cursed
I think adding the fates was a bad idea
People got confused on the memories
And now farming overworld mobs is so unpopular here
People just want to farm mettle
They only added the fates to make HW areas look busy lmao
Also warn people not to join CEs when it's almost up
NA is too stupid to switch methods once they have one already
They will just think you want to cockblock them the mettle while you can get a slot in it
They heard that Bozja has bad rates and now they can't be persuaded otherwise.

It is
multitask
Is paz up
Does anyone have the info card for Lyon yet?
Most likely from duel
Christ
Same as the pyro ssj
Not getting that any time soon
also I'm pissed off
why
Because the lowest construct prices on the DC are on MY World
join
How do I check the amount of peeps in an instance like Bozja? /instance isn't working
Social > Player Search
I can buy a small plot now.
Adventurer List
nah
No
House Tracker

It would be easy to make
but would only contribute to the already negative experience of buying houses
I want a small in Shiro
With some more bozja farming, I bet I can make it look pretty nice
Only 5 memories, oof
I got Sicinius' notes 
Same
I'm gonna go to shiro and see if there's a certain house i want
What do smalls generally sell for
3*, man that took forever to drop tho
I'm at 5 mil
Oh damn Misi is a spy? Welp
WhTs the name of the construct mount item? I wanna search on market board
Aza
Mr Happys guide for castrum is nice
Boss #1 (Lower): 1:03
Boss #1 (Upper): 3:52
Prisoner Escape: 6:59
Boss #2: 9:22
Boss #3: 13:10
Boss #3 (Majesty's Place): 15:35
We are now sponsored by Steelseries! Check out the gear here w/ a 10% discount using the code MRHAPPY10 http://steelseries.7eer.net/c/198881/100327/...
Yeah it's all mechanics you've seen before
6 mil on crystal
donut AoE's, void zones
I have 160 rn
gib
F
||Do you think Beastmaster will be a limited job||
I'm gonna get back on shortly to browse houses
for castrum to spawn how many lvl 10+s do you need
iunno
Pretty good idea Suga.
I do it with premades from the crystal BA discord
I saw Castrum pop during my cluster farm and we went in
wind caller
@gaunt star wind caller
It does sell on my server...i think I might try selling it.
Not often...but it's got a few sales
Otherwise I'll use it for myself
Mount for 8mil-ish
Selling for or posted for
Everyone is doing bozja and nobody is selling anything
Just like real WW1
Except people selling arms to both sides
Where do you actually farm bitter memories? Is it any mobs or just farm fates and CEs?
Don't really feel like running dungeons for them.
jsut anywhere in Bozja, if the quest is up, you got the drop chance
Sweet
Do I have to still be that class? Or can i switch to a tank and aoe some mobs?
If that makes sense
Nope, the only thing required is the quest and the weapon in your inventory
Sweet thank you so much, really appreciate the help
ma'am you may destroy me, thank you.
--shows up in the recollection quest, Rowena's girl to watch Gerolt
oh she'll sell the replicas, neat.
So question about end cutscene
||since she enthralled those resistance soldiers that would make them the actual gunhildir blades now right||
y-yes 
Yep @open verge
||Resistance already looking kinda screwed, considering we lost the best soldiers of the army||
Thatβs a pretty usual situation for them, especially if you played 1.0 lol
||and then the question comes when the primal will also consume that grey haired gal's aether||
probably
||Your big raid in 1.0 with the resistance BEGINS with Gaius carrying out the corpse of the resistance leader at that time lol||
I am curious as to
where we'll go next
I feel like we'll be staying at the southern front, ||since technically, we lost castrum lacus latorie but...||
||are the people that were enthralled the same ones that show up in the fates||
||depressing yes||
||yes||
cool π
||Isolde? Nothing of value was lost.||
I'm missing a lot
||Aggie and Stanik are rip tho||
How do you mean, in the field records?
Yeah, 'm 13/20, never getting the duel ones tho,
...there are duel ones as well?!
I'm pretty sure hotfix hit some bc I never saw Sicinius, Dyunbu, or Dhazuq's
but I got Sicinus' twice in a row
Oh I have Sicinius
||grey hair will prob merge with the primal no doubt||
I need uhhh, from what I know,
i got it before the hotfix as well
Albeleo? Nope.
Iβm surprised the game has yet to give us strong viera lore. Maybe in 6.0?

I guess maybe later OwO
But from the ending
i have a feeling the viera area is more closer to Dalmasca
||We may join forces with Fran's group, and the nagxians||
Do they get mentioned?
Aye, Viera live in Dalmasca,
Lenteβs Tears is what the resistance is called
Veena in the Skatay range, Rava in Golmore
No I mean, do they get mentioned in the new quests? Last they got mentioned was in 5.25
||He's the one who tells the two leaders of the Bozjan resistance and us to leave||
Yes
yes they do
Thanks
||It's more because, Garlemald has fucking collapsed with Varis' death. Because of this, all the legions are doing whatever the fuck they want, without any support. That's why the Nagxians & Lente's Tears are striking.||
||The Dalmascan and Nagxian Resistances reclaimed Castrum Amicitia, formerly Nalbina Fortress||
In Tactics and XII viera had some pretty unique abilities. Racial abilities which are not doable for FFXIV unless all race had some perks.
But viera could sense and/or smell aether. They had connections with the forest which allowed them to summon βotherworldly beingsβ, making viera the only race that could be summoners. In ffxiv, we see Fran mention how she can feel/sense heavy/dense aether in Orbonne Monastery. So that exists, but do they also retain the other abilities as well? Thatβs why Iβm curious about.
Not to mention, these resistances are now happening
because Doma was possible
Doma proved that resisting against the Garlean Empire was possible
All hail one strange adventurer who just canβt stop winning
One
Just one βοΈ adventurer
The entire reason why Bozja was gaining traction was because soma right
Yep
Well a lot of their lore basically got copy pasted to the Padjal, we see many similarities in the shamans of Fanow too,
Doma and Ala Mhigo both
but anyhow,
Garlemald is getting fucked
Bozja as well
Bozja sucks
How so? 
||so gabranth just wants to make his own empire no?||
Why is every nation bad to a degree except Doma? Doma is perhaps the single most and only region that isnβt related to any weird shit
Bozja did some pretty 1 head shit
The Bozjan Citadel incident
Man. I love people
when the Garleans tried to summon fucking Bahamut
What? Doma was razed in 2.2 after the first rebellion
What did Ala Mhigo do?
Everything.
How so?
@subtle pasture same reason as yesterday lol
We had a 3 minute conversation prepull explaining who would go top/stay bottom
And my tank went up twice.
So we called him out
And said hey, dont do that. You're hurting our run.
"Why is ever nation bad to a degree except Doma?" Yotsuyu's arc would like to have a word with you
||lets kill the queen
||
The entire purpose of the yotsuyu arc is show the fucked up shit in Doma 
Itβs Russia
So Garlemald is pretty much on the brink of collapse
||due to grey hairs stupidity, now the 4th has to worry about the primal enthralling them||
And then i said... we sorted it guys. The reason you're dying is your healer wasn't making it up due to our rogue tank
And he got all pissy...
And then tried to pull wipe us by agroing and pulling him outside the arena as he rage quit

WOL is in Bozja? Say less 
What? Doma was razed in 2.2 after the first rebellion
No I mean Doma so far have no history of being involved in any shits. Ishgard had their corrupt church, Gridania with elementals, Limsa and their low-key evil policies, UlβDah and Al Mhigo are... hehehe... even Hingashi has some shits. But Doma so far sounds hella innocent. Tbh so does Crystarium. Nicest people
@regal lantern Doma had a lot of baggage
Clan Raijin dragged it out of a warring era, iirc
Do tell
Wtf did you guys pay attention
doma: 
Garlean: 
WOL is in Bozja? Say less
"Sir?"
"Less."
Cough... "WoL"
also, the Geo problem is related to Doma too,
Zenos: FETCH ME MY SWORDS
A child was sold into sex slavery and everyone just let it happen
Oh yeah mb
Right...
I'm going to end her
But other than that one thing
||and now grey hair gal wants to be Mrs Nidhogg||
Excuse me?
Doma isnβt all that bad
Zenos sir the warrior of light is in castrum lactus litore
Zenos: castrum lactose intolerant? Good thing I hate milk
when i mean by Mrs Nidhogg i mean the vengeance part

Itβs people are sort of free from any red ledgers
||Vengeance because treated like trash being a lowborn||
she is dogdhit lowborn
Lol
||I'm glad the mention of Bozjan seers performing inception wasn't forgotten.||
WoL should fuck off while they still can
||also, I'm horrified we see it happen.||
Yeah, it looks like
like, compared to Cid's memories??
a hellhole
holy shit
||Grey Hair/Queen dweeb: Vengeannnccceee, WoL: Haha Vengeance go poooooooooofff||
you can see the damage, but mostly, everything is gone
Oh Velibor and Blaz are the same clan, neat.
I need to see Velibor's lore if it has more about Zetina
-is he his dad or
also friends with Aggie
Velibor & Blaz are friends with Aggie
is Dabog's notes from Gabriel?
I still haven't got Dabog
Yeah we do

Velibor and Aggie's notes elude me from the Blades, despite doing their skirms over and over 
DYUNBU TOO
COME ON YOU HIPPIE
still havent got dyunbu
I like Liofi's backstory
Same, but I'll collect it eventually,
was chill on Bozja today, focusing on CLL runs
need
gear set
Clariccle's is neat just for uh,
mentioning a whole NATIONALITY of Ilsabard
er, culture.
Cleared CLL for the first time today
I'll take my time with
Relic weapons
Still really pissed about PLD & GNB relic weapons















