retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[sterile galleon]

Support pet, DPS pet, Tank pet

[open verge]

who cares

dont always give players what they want fuck them

[ripe flint]

Ah yes...

The perfect recipe for success.

[sterile galleon]

So like what WoW is doing

[open verge]

sometimes you gotta piss of your playerbase

[north fulcrum]

SE needs more non-standard content

[open verge]

^

[ripe flint]

Beastmaster isn't the way to go.

[north fulcrum]

adding another standard class doesn't really improve anything for the game

it's another job that won't be used

because SAM is better

[open verge]

adding another job is just for the sake of adding another job

[sterile galleon]

...Inb4 nerf

[north fulcrum]

Like that's why AST is in a mess

it was literally added

[sterile galleon]

We do need another support though, all things considered

[open verge]

its not like beastmaster needs to be a the new job its just the fact people want more jobs

[north fulcrum]

so they would have 1 tank 1 dps 1 healer

[open verge]

you see where im going with this?

[north fulcrum]

and they've yet to be able to balance that shit since

Like don't get me wrong I'd like to see a new class every expac or two but

It's the best candidate for the situation

[prisma shale]

Where on hear are people setting up groups to do Castrun Lacis Latorum

[north fulcrum]

it and PUP

[open verge]

we will be getting another job soon

[prisma shale]

*here

[sterile galleon]

"XIV needs less content" say I accuse you of being trolls hired by Blizzard trying to derail XIV with backwards rhetoric

[north fulcrum]

In the Baldesion Arsenal discords

generally

[sterile galleon]

How would you plead your innocence

[north fulcrum]

we just expanded them

[open verge]

link

i need ;p

[north fulcrum]

one sec

https://discord.gg/UmPNjX

[gaunt star]

https://youtu.be/BjoMwM359Dw

[prisma shale]

Ok thanks

[north fulcrum]

You'll have to find your crystal one, sorry

[gentle temple]

I'd honestly rather they just add new companion skins for your chocobo based on mobs than have BST.

[north fulcrum]

dunno their discords

[gaunt star]

If mods wants to pin above

[north fulcrum]

I would like to see chocobos expanded a lot more

but I think BST can exist beside it

[gentle temple]

People will complain so much if it's limited

[sterile galleon]

Enough about BST, let's talk Chemist and Geo or Necro

[north fulcrum]

Especially if they go hard into raising or god even breeding

[gentle temple]

Necro healer or bust

[sterile galleon]

Like odds are we're getting a new support job regardless for 6.0

[north fulcrum]

Necro

[sterile galleon]

And a pet-based job

Be it Necro or BST

[north fulcrum]

They've teased Chemist pretty hard. GEO is also possible, but I've not seen any teasing since Stormblood.

Necro I don't believe so

[sterile galleon]

Both Geo and Chemist would in all likelihood be support, two new support jobs would be overdoing it.

[north fulcrum]

Nah I think it'll just be one

I just mean between the ones you listed

[sterile galleon]

I think it won't be more than two

[open verge]

i dont even know how many jobs we will get

[north fulcrum]

I'm going to imagine they slow down to 1

[open verge]

im leaning towards too but i would be surpised to 1

[vital brook]

well

[sterile galleon]

One at most post 6.X

[north fulcrum]

Because jobs aren't like FFXI where they shared the majority of equipment and skills

[vital brook]

this is like one of the weirdest thing someone has said

[odd yoke]

No pet based job until they make pet queing better

[open verge]

because every other role doesnt need a new job

[odd yoke]

Kthxbai

[north fulcrum]

They have to do animations, weapons, and skills, and more balancing for every single one

[gaunt star]

Lmfao

[north fulcrum]

So that's a helluva lot of work

[open verge]

i think we all agree we are getting new Healer

[north fulcrum]

compared to FFXI where you could release 10 jobs and they all use the same magic and shit lol

[gentle temple]

Dog needs to pee, what's weird?

[vital brook]

nah i mean, usually people dont say that

[north fulcrum]

Cast bio on the dog

[open verge]

and since we just got a tank this expansion that means we would be getting another dps

[sterile galleon]

Said healer being either Chem or Geo

[vital brook]

and also, never had a dog so no idea how can people notice when the dog's gotta pee

[open verge]

but like what role would that dps be?

[gentle temple]

Nooo

[open verge]

another caster or melee?

[gentle temple]

Necro healer.

[vital brook]

time mage

Just like ||Gaia||

w a hammer weapon

[sterile galleon]

Chemist would be thematic for an expansion oriented around Garlemald

[gentle temple]

Let me raise people and puppet their corpses.

[north fulcrum]

Yeah Chemist would be very thematically correct

[open verge]

would the new job even get job quest

[gentle temple]

'You obviously don't know how to play, so I'll do it for you,'

[open verge]

i have an idea on how they could do puppetmaster limited

[vital brook]

yeah, role quests are unprecedent

[gaunt star]

Chemist with dual cross bows

But you shoot n e e d l e s

[sterile galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/stephen-colbert-syringes-shots-gif-16290787

Honestly, if we only got Chemist for 6.0 I'd be fine with it since the job is cool

Otherwise, peeved.

[gentle temple]

I'm hoping role quests were just a way to tie in that little but of lore you get for doing all four.

I'll be sad not to get to see my trainers in 6.0

[sterile galleon]

Gimme my whip-wielding BST Yoshi

[open verge]

they are saving whip maybe

well the beastmasters didnt use any special animations so maybe not

[random anvil]

Adramalech!!!

[sterile galleon]

Beastmasters have regularly been portrayed as using whips in previous FF installments

Hell, even in the one where Nu Mou made their debut.

[gloomy shale]

what lvl are the bozja quests done

[gloomy shale]

chemist and soldier would be similar in style if they had to pick a theme right?

[robust sapphire]

Idk if this fits more in the questions tab, but is the bitter memory step for the relic weapon the final step?

[open verge]

yes

[next quarry]

Hm

Rank 1 enemies as large pulls might be the fastest way

For memories

@maiden lodge man, ty for the memories tip

[spiral wagon]

female hrothgar?

[next quarry]

2 memories per few min

[cinder spindle]

is there gonna be

an after story for bozja?

[pine epoch]

I just love this art

[random anvil]

[nocturne void]

too bad female hrothgar is a bastard

[gentle temple]

Wait, do we actually see one?

[nocturne void]

the sped up run animation for lost swift is fucking great

[agile otter]

I don't think you see one besides that mural.

[eager prairie]

So are there armor sets to get off bozja or nah?

[next quarry]

There is bozja gear

[eager prairie]

How get, i saw the live letter of them holding pictires of the new gear up

[next quarry]

Rank 10 in Bozja Southern Front and complete Castrum Lacus Litore

After that you can get gear with coins gained

[eager prairie]

Ah i see, good to know!

[lilac crest]

When did they add eureka pyros

[nocturne void]

Lost swift in the mech duty during barage is straight up broken

[next quarry]

What

[lilac crest]

How long is like time period

Before nexy bozja

[nocturne void]

5.4

[lilac crest]

[nocturne void]

will expand bozja

[lilac crest]

Nice

Its like

Theres nothing in it you know

I got to r10

Did castrum

Got the mount

And its like

3 days I’m done

Not really done

Still need armor

[eager prairie]

Armor set and relic-lol

[nocturne void]

what is wrong with you guys

[lilac crest]

Weapon I dont really need

[eager prairie]

I mean that was Eureka too

[next quarry]

You'll need it for 5.5

[lilac crest]

Why

[next quarry]

It's BiS then

[lilac crest]

Oh

[eager prairie]

5 materia slots

[lilac crest]

Wait what

Why is it BiS

[next quarry]

Relics are BiS at the end of expansions

[eager prairie]

5 materia slots

[nocturne void]

"I have consumed all content non-stop and am done"

[lilac crest]

Alright then

I didnt do it non stop

I did after class

3 hours each day

Actually less than 3

[eager prairie]

Anywho it was the same in Eureka tbh, the main allure beyons the content itself was the armor sets and weapons

[lilac crest]

Oh I know what I need to do now

Beat the duel

Thats my goal from now on

Especially red chocobo ine

[eager prairie]

I think Bozja is faster overall but yeah tis the same as Eureka, just faster and better in execution

[nocturne void]

Also there's level 15 actions

[next quarry]

Doblyns have bad drop rates compared to area 3's birds

Hm

[subtle pasture]

So the bitter memories for the last relic step,

in Bozja, do they just,

drop from whatever, or something in particular

CE's, if I had to guess?

[dim sigil]

its a faster funner euerka

[next quarry]

Huh, everyone in the instance I'm in doesn't wanna farm random mobs

Oh

There's only 6 of us

[nocturne void]

Has anybody seen how high you can go with Midare or any of the finale skills?

[next quarry]

180k with midare

[nocturne void]

sick

[next quarry]

With lost slash inside IR

360k

[gaunt star]

Anyone tried it on mch?

[next quarry]

With drill?

150k

[ionic quest]

How about Tech Step or Hyosho?

[next quarry]

Tech step is an ability and Hyosho is a spell

[ionic quest]

Oh yeah

[next quarry]

Focus only effects weaponskills

Actually lemme check something

[ionic quest]

Would’ve loved to see the damage on those

[next quarry]

Hm no

I was hoping that Steelforge changes it to a weaponskill

Steelsting*

[gaunt star]

With drill or with crit drill?

[next quarry]

Crit drill

[gaunt star]

Dam

Whats uh... The lost slash thing?

[next quarry]

Lost Slash IR is still the strongest thing I've seen

[gaunt star]

Is that ninjA

[next quarry]

!action Lost Slash

[lusty shadow]

**Lost Slash** : lvl 0 PLD MNK WAR DRG BRD NIN MCH DRK SAM GNB DNC (90.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 800 to all enemies in a cone before you. When critical damage is dealt, potency is tripled.
This action does not share a recast timer with any other actions. Furthermore, the recast timer cannot be affected by other actions.

Powered by XIVAPI

[next quarry]

Mix with WAR Inner Release

2400 potency

[gaunt star]

[next quarry]

• focus

[gaunt star]

I see

Also wtf

Ew

[next quarry]

We need to normalize farming for memories in bozja

Chaining rank 1/2 mobs can bring them in really fast

[odd yoke]

Maybe when more people are higher rank and dont need mettle

Like heat box farms

[gaunt star]

Ive seen people starting mob/cluster farms today

[viscid monolith]

I got onto the Duel with Lyon

And got deleted

[gaunt star]

So its slowly getting underway

[viscid monolith]

In about 30 seconds

[gaunt star]

You can duel lyon??

[viscid monolith]

Ya

If you don't get hit by any aoes in the Red Chocobo Skirmish you might get challenged

[gaunt star]

Ohhh

I didnt realize that was him

I have yet to see the third duel

[viscid monolith]

Ya he challenges after the Red Choco Skirmish only

[odd yoke]

You need dispel

[viscid monolith]

You need Dispel for Lyon?

[odd yoke]

He buffs himself

With enwind

On the first skills

If not dispel his autos are too much

And you die

Then he does the growing aoe, into half room cleave into twisters

Is as far as I've seen

[next quarry]

I'm arguing with shout chat about memory farming

[gaunt star]

All I’ve seen too

Has anyone seen the third duel

[next quarry]

But the moment I bring up red chocobo the entire chat goes quiet

I've seen it

Pyro man

[gaunt star]

Where’s it come from

[tough fern]

New idea: cancel CE's if not enough people queue in

[next quarry]

Uh

Doggo

Wolf

[tough fern]

[gaunt star]

O really

[next quarry]

Iirc

[gaunt star]

Legit haven’t seen it once and I’m rank 12 lmao

[next quarry]

Or math boss

I forget

[gaunt star]

Could be math boss

Only done that one twice

[odd yoke]

Its the fate chain that has the pyro and Colousses

Into Doggo

[viscid monolith]

@odd yoke I was a tank when I challenged him

He was autoing for 12k

[odd yoke]

You still need dispel

To get rid of enaero

[viscid monolith]

I died to Taste of Blood because I didn't know it was a frontal cleave

[gaunt star]

So is Gabriel the only one that’s been done so far

[odd yoke]

Yes

[gaunt star]

Titles gonna be hella rare

[odd yoke]

Lyon and Saburak need more research

Like alot more

[viscid monolith]

I wish the mechanics were more intuitive

Since pretty much everything one shots you

[gaunt star]

Yeah

[odd yoke]

Its like any fight, prog is trial and error

You need to think with lost actions in mind

Cause each fight has required actions

Gabriel with Manawall (spellforge as well for physicals)

Lyon with Dispell so far

[gaunt star]

When do you need manawall for Gabriel

[odd yoke]

Saburak with something, maybe reflect

[gaunt star]

Only seen up to 80%

[next quarry]

So is Lyon just a hyperactive Ilberd

[odd yoke]

On the second Intergrated sebsor

After missiles and prey

[gaunt star]

I see

[odd yoke]

He does X unseen

[viscid monolith]

Lyon is a Beast Master

[odd yoke]

But all sides are covered

So you need to manawall to survive the damage

While standing in tower

I got a guide for Gabriel in pins

[gaunt star]

Can tanks not survive with their invulns?

[odd yoke]

With ability rotation

You can tank invuln

To free up a slot to take your Spellforge

[gaunt star]

Makes sense

[odd yoke]

Without spellforge, you dont have damage to kill it

As a tank

[gaunt star]

How long was the fight for the person who did it

Ik they did it as whm

[odd yoke]

Enrage is 9min

[north fulcrum]

Oh I can still type here. Neat.

[gaunt star]

Oh you only have 9 mins damn

[odd yoke]

They cleared in about 8mins

[gaunt star]

Wonder if that’s the case for all of them

[silent tusk]

so you would need to bring cure II as a lost action for non healing classes for sustain?

[odd yoke]

Yes

You need to heal up after Manawall

[north fulcrum]

@elder isle fun fact this channel let’s muted people talk pog

[odd yoke]

Even with manawall, it takes half your health minimum

[north fulcrum]

Wait

Who the fuck did I ping

[gaunt star]

No idea

[north fulcrum]

I meant @late willow

[elder isle]

Yes hello

[north fulcrum]

Hi go away sorry

[late willow]

Hi

[north fulcrum]

Love you

[elder isle]

You are forgiven

[late willow]

[north fulcrum]

Time for crab

[late willow]

Alright get your memes out now

[north fulcrum]

I don’t have any I’m just hanging

[late willow]

https://i.imgur.com/VL2s1JX.png

I'm so confused

[north fulcrum]

Beats me

[gaunt star]

[late willow]

Oh I know why

[next quarry]

I wonder how often fragments sell

[odd yoke]

Probably quick

Totally didny buy a ton

[next quarry]

Yeah better sell while people think the earring is just like the aetheryte one

[swift kraken]

who tf buys frags

[odd yoke]

Same reason yoy buy anything

You're lazy as fuck

[swift kraken]

brain damage

got it

[odd yoke]

[errant mortar]

anyone happen to have a link to relic pics? uwu

nvm, found them!

[odd yoke]

Welp

Lyon

Duel

Needs manawall as well

[next quarry]

Fuck

[odd yoke]

Along with dispel

Fuck your self healing dps

[next quarry]

Can you quickly change in actions quickly

Or is that an outside of battle thing only

[odd yoke]

I actually dont know

Never tested

Aoe with Enaero (dispel) > growing aoe thing > Half room aoe > 4 twisters > 5 or 6 fireballs that pulse aoes > fireball line aoes + half room aoe > twister despawn + buster (manawall/invuln)

Is where we're at with Lyon

[next quarry]

Can tanks take the buster with invul?

Or high CDs

[odd yoke]

[23:07]Lyon the Beast King uses Twin Agonies.
[23:07]  Blocked! You take 201575 (-19%) damage.
[23:07]You are defeated by Lyon the Beast King.

201k

Maybe hyper mitigate

But invulns would be safer

Stuff you can manawall in Lyon and Gabriel can be invulned

So tanks can take a extra action

[next quarry]

using platebearer wouldn't help too much

[odd yoke]

Though we dont know if lyon does it again

[next quarry]

Hm

If he did that would probably be around enrage or would be enrage?

[odd yoke]

!action Lost manawall

[lusty shadow]

**Lost Manawall** : lvl 0 PLD MNK WAR DRG BRD WHM BLM SMN SCH NIN MCH DRK AST SAM RDM GNB DNC (360.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Temporarily applies Heavy to self, while reducing damage taken by 90% and nullifying most knockback and draw-in effects.
Duration: 6s

Powered by XIVAPI

[odd yoke]

Mmm

6min cooldown

I mean if enrage is 9mins and this is like a minute in then it would be close to enrage if he does it again

Though ar that point, invulns other than Hallowed would be back

[shell merlin]

whats even the rewards tho

[odd yoke]

I guess the nice thing with Lyon is...cause alot of people are bad with the Choco fate...trying to get into it to test shouldnt be much of a issue once you learn

[shell merlin]

Choco fate is easy

just have the magic reflect

[odd yoke]

99 boxes, title, 9k mettle and a instance wide buff increasing Mettle by 50%

[shell merlin]

99 boxes kinda nice ngl

[odd yoke]

For 30mins

[shell merlin]

actually all of that

real spicy

99 boxes just means 70 prismas

[odd yoke]

So lowkey baddies taking the duel are griefing

[shell merlin]

So for the first 1v1 tho

what do u bring

[next quarry]

Check pins

[odd yoke]

Manawall

Yeah

[shell merlin]

Manawall I thought so ok

[odd yoke]

My guides in pins

With mechanics and rotation

[next quarry]

Manawall+Cure 2

Or if you're healer

Maybe a dps ability?

[odd yoke]

Physical classes: Spellforge and Manawall (tanks can take dps actions)

[shell merlin]

if Im a tank tho

ok

[next quarry]

Ah yeah

Spellforge

[odd yoke]

Without spellforge you lack damage

[shell merlin]

Spellforge as tank with manawall?

[odd yoke]

Tank doesn't need manawall

[shell merlin]

oh wait

[odd yoke]

As you can invuln the mechanic

[shell merlin]

manawall is knockback right

Idk the names of them all

[odd yoke]

Its 90% damage reduction and anti kd

[shell merlin]

yah ok

[odd yoke]

So immunity and knockback immunity

[shell merlin]

not worried then

[odd yoke]

Cause there's tower

Or.just get knocked into it

[shell merlin]

you suppose to be knocked in?

but not out

[odd yoke]

Yes

[shell merlin]

or you can just sit in it with no knockback ?

[odd yoke]

After the first knockback, he always combines knockback with towers

[shell merlin]

I havent sene the 1v1 much so

[odd yoke]

You can sit in towers with knockback immunity

[shell merlin]

ye ok

[odd yoke]

But otherwise get knocked into it

Spellforge is necessary or you lack damage

rin got to 10% as warrior

Without spellforge

So if he had it, he would have killed it

Though his video was useful to figure out the fight since it was a enrage pull

We discovered the required manawall with that

[shell merlin]

I prob shouldnt run it as DRK or im inting mself

[next quarry]

AHAH

FRAGMENTS SOLD

[odd yoke]

Unless you can heal yourself faster

But probably not worth it

[shell merlin]

I think DRK healing isnt the worst

[odd yoke]

Just manawall at that point

[shell merlin]

but I never got into a 1v1

[next quarry]

Same

I like seeing people do it

[odd yoke]

I got once on the second duel

[shell merlin]

I dont even feel like doing more bozja atm lmfao

[odd yoke]

And got to 50%

Died to pepega missiles

[shell merlin]

I wanna get my relic weapon, finish house decor then go for the bozja armor

[odd yoke]

If i get it then it dies

[shell merlin]

and then I dont see a reason to go to bozja

[odd yoke]

Cash moneyyyy

[shell merlin]

Money isnt a problem, maybe after my housing decor it will be

[odd yoke]

Like lowkey farming mobs normally is good

Imma farm mobs at rank 15

When i dont need mettle

And rake that cash

[shell merlin]

how long would the 1v1 take tho realistically

if engage is 9 mins

[odd yoke]

The JP clear video was around 8mins

They were summoner

But they weren't optional on rotations

And had cure 1 not 2

[shell merlin]

you think going as RDM is a bad idea, HONESTLY I think mch would be gud but no heals

[odd yoke]

So wasted gcds

MCH would need Cure 1/2

[shell merlin]

ye

[odd yoke]

I'd take 2 as its off global

[late willow]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/tPh5wxliwaHllCndTSRfZbdhbFSju1k4yS6qRqSF5Y0/%3F1602727106/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/575989909353922567/766116499785252894/image0.png

[shell merlin]

wat dat

[odd yoke]

Mob drops

[shell merlin]

how the hell did you figure drop rates though

I mean 100% yah but teh 20 and 20%

25*

[odd yoke]

Probably average after murdering alot

[shell merlin]

I hope the average is 1000 and not 100

or 500

[odd yoke]

Its probably large

[shell merlin]

multiple people would be nice

ye

[odd yoke]

Wow fuck you discord

[shell merlin]

lmao

[odd yoke]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkUXrdRUYAEdgt7?format=png&name=900x900 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkUXs3dU4AE1FLt?format=png&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkUXuxzUwAAMl6G?format=png&name=small

@late willow

All 3 zones in one

[late willow]

tyty

[odd yoke]

But yeah farming mobs are actually lowkey good

Gets you relic fragmentss as well

[unreal wadi]

so what are the requirements

for relic fragments as well

[odd yoke]

The dying stuff is just be on the step

Idk about the one after, haven't bothered to move on to find out

[unreal wadi]

I have 5 dying

5 sorrowful*

1 tortured

[odd yoke]

The blue ones are centre area, yellow for south and red for North

[viscid monolith]

Yellow is south and blue is center

[odd yoke]

Oh flipped

[unreal wadi]

i guess ill take my time with it

doing shard farming with a JP group

got like

150 shards

150 preparation

[viscid monolith]

Preparation?

[odd yoke]

Fragments

[viscid monolith]

Oh

Hopefully someone posts a guide for what mobs drop dying memories in each zone

[dim sigil]

This is what I have been told

zone 1 - yellow
zone 2 - blue
zone 3 - red

[viscid monolith]

Ya but are there specific mobs?

[dim sigil]

I've feel ive gotten them at random so I don't think so but maybe

[odd yoke]

I believe all mobs give them

[viscid monolith]

Oh ok so that's good

[odd yoke]

Except fate mobs cause the fate itself gives them

[dim sigil]

You get actions and the memories from normal enemies so they're still worthwhile to kill

[odd yoke]

So yeah, mob farming is like lowkey good

[viscid monolith]

That means people can spread out and farm in whatever area they want

[dim sigil]

And clusters

[odd yoke]

I'm waiting for rank 15 to farm stuff

Since i wont need fates

Other than for duels

[viscid monolith]

I spent most of my time helping FC mates rank up so I have like 40 blue memories

[odd yoke]

Cause bitch i want my Gabriel kill and need to science others

[cosmic herald]

emergency maintenance

[dim sigil]

wait really

like now

[odd yoke]

#lodestone-news-na

[dim sigil]

so useful

It's annoying it doesn't work on mobile

[odd yoke]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/a4ab7f0be17ace527e68904c02345b964564d714

[dim sigil]

well

rip playing after work

[next quarry]

It's in a hour or two

Lasts 3 hours

Might end sooner

[ripe void]

it's basically worthless trying to do bozjan solo isn't it

[next quarry]

No

Just gotta be careful

Take advantage of lost actions

[odd yoke]

You can solo rank 3 and lower...rank 4 need lost actions to help out

[random anvil]

Looking forward to the next section of bozja since we might to see some Dalmasca dudes

[vapid hull]

more viera more viera more viera

[rose gyro]

is it any fate in the HW areas that drop the dying or specific ones

[random anvil]

any

just get gold rating

and you're in the zone for the memory you're grinding

[maiden lodge]

So where/how do we turn in coins, is that only after you've completed it once?

[gentle lynx]

Castrum run failed ;-;

no one could beat Lyon's DPS check

[unreal wadi]

haha

[maiden lodge]

Same same

[gentle lynx]

lost 10k mettle for nothing TT_TT

well, for prog i guess

[maiden lodge]

Coins count for something

[gentle lynx]

i can bring dps skirm next time

[slim egret]

after maintenence, im going to join an organized castrum run

[grand parcel]

do you need to do fates to get castrum to pop

[slim egret]

u can usually tell when castrum is about to pop

[odd yoke]

Castrum appears to pop 1 hour if its fresh instance if there's enough 10s...seems hour cooldown

[slim egret]

the north of the map starts getting a bunch of fates

some really dangerous ones too

[gentle lynx]

i'm guessing that Kyubi mech is one of the signs, though that one popped really late for me last night so probably not enough ppl for Castrum to pop

though, the run just now didn't pop a Kyubi

[merry flicker]

Does anyone know what mobs drop Resolve fragments?

[slim egret]

tthe fates kinda tell a story leading up to it too

like the summoner guy who dissapears when hes half health

im not sure

[warped parrot]

Anyone have a clear cut explanation for this mechanic

Seems like the green gust pushes the orb in that direction..

[gentle lynx]

as far as i understand, the feathers move based on teh wind of the quadrant

[odd yoke]

They're push back exactly 1 quadrant

[warped parrot]

But it blows up still!

[gentle lynx]

oh, they're pushed back the WHOLE quadrant?

that would explain a thing or two

[odd yoke]

So if they're on the south end of the quadrant, it will push all orbs that same length

[warped parrot]

The white is supposed to be safe, but the part it blows to, sometimes randomly STILL blows

[odd yoke]

The orbs are being pushed

[gentle lynx]

you need to go to the wind orbs, basically

those are donuts

and yeah, they're being pushed, so you have to go to where the wind orb WILL be

[odd yoke]

The green you're standing next to wont be green

[warped parrot]

Oh, so 4 orbs in 1 quadrant, and it gets pushed 1 WHOLE quadrant, instead of 1 orb spot

[odd yoke]

It will move

[warped parrot]

that makes sense!

[odd yoke]

Look at the quadrant thats coming to you

[gentle lynx]

i thought they were only pushed by one position, but if they go two because they're moving by the entire quadrant then that explains a few discrepancies

I'm planning on going full DPS and joining the anti-Lyon party next time, wtf does he do up there?

he doesn't seem to wipe the party that goes after him, they just fail a dps check

but i know he does mechs

[odd yoke]

He has a small point black with a knockback..
A growing aoe but the growth isn't telegraphed
Taste of blood is Sloppeh boi half room half room cleave

Heart of Nature is a mini phase, spawns 4 small exaflares then does something to try to push you into it, either like a gaze attack for hysteria or pushback

[grand parcel]

ffs DISCORD UPDATE

[odd yoke]

I haven't had much experience up there

[gentle lynx]

Sloppeh and Earthquake looks like what he does for solo engagements

and i saw a gaze marker on him while there were 4 things on the arena, i think

[odd yoke]

Yeah

Thats one of his Heart of Natures

4 travelling aoes and a gaze

But the gaze can be a knockback or something else to try and get you into those exaflares

[gentle lynx]

based on his dialogue i wonder if he wipes you if anyone of the anti-Lyon party dies

i just don't believe that Castrum would have a dps check as tight as Savage/Baldesion Ozma

[odd yoke]

No, its only if the whole party wipes

And no one is up there

[gentle lynx]

...wait

oh my god i think i get it

He wipes the party, rezzes them then kicks them out

that's why i saw them alive

[odd yoke]

Not reses

Just kicks

Then you can res them up to die

[gentle lynx]

he does say 'get back up'

ugh, i need to get up there myself once

[odd yoke]

Man i love it when people can record duels so i can anaylse

Got the rotation for the first 2mins of duel 3

[gentle lynx]

that's the pyromancer, right?

[odd yoke]

Yeah

So far haven't seen a spot that would require a specific action..

Though i bet reflect could do some work, would be worth considering running Guardian + reflect for the 30s duration if it works really well for extra damage

[ripe void]

got gabriel on my very first lockbox, i'm a happy lad

[maiden lodge]

I just got gabbie too

[gentle lynx]

i got the mount and the minion from the lockboxes, i'm happy 🙂

[unreal wadi]

grats man

[slim egret]

i joined a castrum run

and someone kept pulling before we can discuss anything

didnt even get past the first boss T.T

[unreal wadi]

Bruh

[shell merlin]

after bitter mems what is next

[serene crest]

That's it.

[shell merlin]

thank god

[serene crest]

Only two steps.

[maiden lodge]

That's it

[shell merlin]

I will do that tomorrow then 5 duties runs

[maiden lodge]

OR

[shell merlin]

no

[maiden lodge]

Do you have a WHM?

[shell merlin]

no

im tank man

[maiden lodge]

Okay that works too

Go into Bozja

You know those level 1 dudes right out the gate?

[shell merlin]

they drop it?

[maiden lodge]

Yeah

Pick up ALL of them

Aoe them down

[shell merlin]

interesting

I will try that

[maiden lodge]

Get tones of fragments

[shell merlin]

ill prob do the lvl still for my GNB but the last 4

[maiden lodge]

Naw

levelling roulette slow

[shell merlin]

I wanna lvl my gnb so

[maiden lodge]

I mean sure but

[shell merlin]

i am gonna do it anyways

[maiden lodge]

39 minutes for 6 in my experience

and I was doing a less dense grind

Want to really make it faster?

[shell merlin]

you dont understand what I mean

[maiden lodge]

Team with someone

Have them go to a different spot, either screamers or cactuars

Have them do the same thing

[shell merlin]

goign to duty roulette anyways
why start with bitter mem lvl 1 grind if I can do the duty roul first for my GNB xp

and also get a bitter mem

[maiden lodge]

I mean I get it

But also

6 in 39 minutes is faaaaaast

And that's basic, it can probably be made faster. I know of four decent farm spots

There's probably more

[shell merlin]

bozja is wack

i like it

but wack

is it lvl 10 for castrium or 12

[maiden lodge]

10

[shell merlin]

I need to go for the armors

[odd yoke]

10

[gaunt star]

Hello~

[maiden lodge]

maybe I should'nt tell people my ways

Then I won't find people in my spots

[odd yoke]

Anyone wanna see the work in progress timeline for duel 3 with pyro guy

[shell merlin]

what i wanna see is someone getting the new armor

[odd yoke]

Once yoy clear castrum and turn the quest it, its buyable

[subtle pasture]

Yeee, it's uhhhh

[odd yoke]

14 coins for head, hands and feet

28 for body and legs

[subtle pasture]

98 coins in total for a gear set, then

or, roughly 5 clears of CLL

no wait, 20 min, deffo 5 runs

[odd yoke]

You get 20 coins minimum..+1 coin per prisoner saved

[shell merlin]

I have yet to see a whole group run it

just like 8 or 4 people

[subtle pasture]

MATH, 4 clears full clearing, yep.

what does the augments do exactly,

[shell merlin]

ik haste

[subtle pasture]

It's just + haste?

[odd yoke]

Adds haste

[subtle pasture]

what does haste do exactly

[shell merlin]

gcd

[odd yoke]

Reduce gcd

[shell merlin]

go zoom with your boom smash

[subtle pasture]

Figured, was curious if it did anything more

[odd yoke]

I think 1 haste is 1 speed tier

[wheat rapids]

is it a tangible difference with the full set

[subtle pasture]

that's fairly... ah okay.

[shell merlin]

you look good

[odd yoke]

Full set is like fucking

[shell merlin]

like fucking?

[odd yoke]

Almost a full second off the gcd

[shell merlin]

[subtle pasture]

I don't have enough piety for that,

[odd yoke]

Fucks your rotation over royally

[shell merlin]

lmao

[wheat rapids]

i will become speed

[odd yoke]

No job needs that low speed

[subtle pasture]

5.4 MNK rework

with full speed

[odd yoke]

Its why full Cassie earring/speed belt etc aren't super important in Eureka

[wheat rapids]

emulate DDR with your hotbars

[odd yoke]

Cause too much haste

[shell merlin]

^

[subtle pasture]

I got a leg gear from my first CLL clear,

[shell merlin]

full speed mnk

[subtle pasture]

time to gouge that market

[shell merlin]

its on market?

[subtle pasture]

the items to augment, aye

[shell merlin]

ah

[subtle pasture]

not the gear themselves, no

[wheat rapids]

interesting

[shell merlin]

i just want it for glamour

but ill worry about it when i wake up

[subtle pasture]

Likewise,

[wheat rapids]

I'm sure they're expensive as shit right now on market

[shell merlin]

I spent a lot of time today decoring my home

[odd yoke]

The upgrade items are tradeable and droppable via the prisoner chests

[subtle pasture]

It's almost 3k coins to augment a whole set,

[shell merlin]

ill pass on augmenting then

[subtle pasture]

if you don't just get the items straight up on the way

yeah, to hell with that.

[wheat rapids]

the augmented set is only 485 and I've already got a lot of crystarium/yorha gear so I'm probably not gonna get much use out of the set 😔

[slim egret]

Will the real money from boz come from the castrum?

:p

[subtle pasture]

well once more get CLL on farm, that market'll crash

[shell merlin]

anyone pay attention to lore or was just like gogogogogo on day 1

lmao

[subtle pasture]

plus, the augments are niche, as was said

I DID

AHHHHHHHHH

[shell merlin]

i went gogogog

[odd yoke]

Castrum will make bank

[shell merlin]

so i dont noononn

[wheat rapids]

i paid attention

[odd yoke]

The fragments will be hella dollar

[wheat rapids]

it's why I'm only like rank 8 lmao

[subtle pasture]

Honestly the biggest shocker was like,

[odd yoke]

Cause the actions are broken

[shell merlin]

I need to get to 10 and make some FUCKING money man

[subtle pasture]

a throwaway line of dialogue post CLL

it's not related to Bozja in any way

but I

[slim egret]

Castrum does look like something u wanna join with a discord

Only one I did we wiped to the first boss

[subtle pasture]

...Okay, and the actual Bozja story had a decent twist

[shell merlin]

ye ik the twist

[random anvil]

wait what throwaway

[odd yoke]

Its not necessary but maybe preferable for some just for reliability

[subtle pasture]

||Nerva, legatus of the third legion, is Zenos' cousin||

[odd yoke]

I've done it twice with randos around 26-28 people

[subtle pasture]

Lyon mentions it in passing but I

prrrrobably play into 6.0, but that's just speculating

[shell merlin]

it might

i would love next expansion but I actually couldnt handle it atm

[random anvil]

oh i was wondering who that was

[shell merlin]

mentally wise

still recovering from shadowbringers

the music still gets me

the hype "haha you fool I have a trump card still"
Music from our best cat boy

[gaunt star]

Anyone know where I can view the stats for the bazja gear?

[half phoenix]

So, besides the earrings probably no one has, what else do you think they're fixing?

[shell merlin]

prob droprates

maybe

[half phoenix]

hopefully >_>

[shell merlin]

hopefully? I was thinking of nerfs

[half phoenix]

honestly bozja should be the faster one instead of "oh, go do old fates instead of this brand new content we made"

[subtle pasture]

what was bugged about the earrings exactly

[shell merlin]

something about the xp gain

[wispy vector]

they didn't work

[half phoenix]

gives 10% instead of 30%, wasn't actually giving bonus, and something else

[wispy vector]

and gave less exp than indicated

[subtle pasture]

Ahh, okay.

'm still 300~ frags shy of them, anyhow

[shell merlin]

@half phoenix they want you to do old fates for
A sprouts who are on free trial in heavensward
B if bozja dies out you dont have to do bozja for the relic weapon

[half phoenix]

geez, have you just been farming star mobs?

[subtle pasture]

in parties with people who have, yeah.

[half phoenix]

yes but i mean bozja should have been the faster one

[subtle pasture]

prob more somewhere below halfway

[shell merlin]

it is faster

way better than eureka

[half phoenix]

..... its not faster for the relics

[shell merlin]

?

[odd yoke]

It lowkey is

[maiden lodge]

If bozja dies out, you can still do it for the weapon

[odd yoke]

If you actually farm mobs

[maiden lodge]

Because what you do for the weapon

[half phoenix]

fates are GUARANTEED drops on gold for the memories

[maiden lodge]

isn't group goals

[shell merlin]

yah

its way faster

[half phoenix]

they're like 5% from mech mobs in Bozja

[odd yoke]

Yeah but how long does it take you to a single fate

[static sedge]

does anyone know how to get the sets?

[subtle pasture]

holy shit really

[maiden lodge]

It's way faster stop humping the fate train in Bozja

[subtle pasture]

4-5 runs of Lacus Litore,

for enough coins to buy

[wispy vector]

to do all 60 fates, it took me about 2 hours

[shell merlin]

^

[subtle pasture]

also, finishing the story to unlock the merchant

[shell merlin]

I did passive bozja stuff to lvl

[maiden lodge]

Okay.

[shell merlin]

then did mems outside

[gaunt star]

I feel sorry for the guy who got the 1v1 with 5 mins left until maintenance lol

[wispy vector]

just find a group to do fate stuff, it goes super fast

[maiden lodge]

Now get 8 people in 8 spots chaining mobs in all three zones and tell me how that works for you

[gentle temple]

I'm kinda annoyed they just shoved the drops into outside fates AND made it much faster than actually doing the new content.

[subtle pasture]

I got 2/6 of my bitters just uh,

[shell merlin]

@gentle temple I can explain why

[gentle temple]

It's like they want it to die fast.

[subtle pasture]

while my group was cluster/frag farming as we waited for CLL to pop

[shell merlin]

as I said before

[odd yoke]

Its faster inside bojza

[wispy vector]

as for the bitter memories. do duty roulette levelling once. and then spam the anti tower

[gentle temple]

I read what you said before but it's still stupid.

[odd yoke]

With a farming group

[maiden lodge]

it really is, but play by bozja's rules not eureka's

[shell merlin]

its not stupid in my opinion

well the sprout part is

[maiden lodge]

Helltaker, you can NOT do dungeons faster than Bozja

[gentle temple]

I could see adding that as an option later when it's started to die out, but concurrent with the release is just silly.

[shell merlin]

but not the fact that if bozja dies out in the future (as it will dont tell me it wont die one day)

[maiden lodge]

I timed it--you can actually scroll up and see my tracking

[shell merlin]

it allows future people to get relic weapons

[maiden lodge]

It took 40 minutes to get 6 in Bozja

Solo

[wispy vector]

how

[gentle temple]

And that's why it should have been added later.

[maiden lodge]

Not a group, SOLO.

I killed mobs.

Like, really, that's it

[gentle temple]

Or made to still be slower/less efficient than actually doing Bozja.

[subtle pasture]

So Augmented in fates, Recollection in Bozja?

Not bad.

[shell merlin]

@gentle temple Im fine with it now, I didnt wanna sit in bozja forever

[gentle temple]

They could always nerf it later.

[shell merlin]

bitter mems is actually the dumb one

[wispy vector]

i did that as well, got absolutely nothing

[maiden lodge]

Bitter mems is SO easy to do in bozja

Okay, Helltaker, did you kill mobs, or did you KILL mobs

[gentle temple]

But if you wanna get your thing fast you should need to do the actual content to get it >_>

[subtle pasture]

also it's not a bad idea to uh,

[maiden lodge]

Step 1: Be WHM

[subtle pasture]

keep both quests up while in there, in general

[maiden lodge]

Step 2: Get boost to damage and protect on

[shell merlin]

again play by bozja rules not eureka

bozja offers a lot still

[maiden lodge]

Step 3: Pull the mobs outside the opening place, the rank Is

Step 4: Keep pulling

[wispy vector]

i don't have a whitemage at 80

[maiden lodge]

Step 5: Did you pull ALL of them, pull ALL of them

[shell merlin]

play a tank

[gentle temple]

Only has to be 71.

[maiden lodge]

Step 6: Pull more

Step 7: Aoe them down, heal yourself. MISERY MORE BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD LILY

[wispy vector]

i don't have a whitemage at 1

[maiden lodge]

Step 8: Go get more

[shell merlin]

@wispy vector got a tank?

[odd yoke]

Just get any good aoe

[gentle temple]

Well, that does seem like an oversight.

[maiden lodge]

Also, you can do it with Scholar, Astrologian, or a tank, this is just how I did it

Also I did it in a different spot

[subtle pasture]

Lost Cure

[gentle temple]

Misery is really extra satisfying though.

[wispy vector]

nope, only got one high levelled class, which is dragoon

[gentle temple]

I highly reccomend it.

[maiden lodge]

Oh yeah

[wispy vector]

started not too long ago as well

[shell merlin]

then just do duties

[odd yoke]

I think there's a lifesteal essense

[gentle temple]

WHM's delete button.

[shell merlin]

dont have to speedrun your relic weapon

[maiden lodge]

And the respawn rate is really nice cause 90s is also the respawn rate

[viscid monolith]

Are we talking about how easy it is to do the relic in Bozja and that people were being dumb and lazy

[shell merlin]

?

dumb and lazy

[blissful drift]

anyone know if there are plans to buff the droprate of shards in bozja? because compared to the alternative stage bozja is 20x less fast to finish the relic

[maiden lodge]

But while you're doing this, you're also getting fragments, the items for your next weapon, and other benefits too

[odd yoke]

Bojza is faster

[shell merlin]

bozja is faster lol

[maiden lodge]

Bozja is faster

[odd yoke]

Dony do fates in bojza

[maiden lodge]

SERIOUSLY

[odd yoke]

Farm mobs

[maiden lodge]

GET OFF FATES.

They made it so mobs matter

[gentle temple]

I was at like 13/16/2 when maint started and that's just casually doing it over today and yesterday.

[maiden lodge]

Aoe Mobs, it's not hard

[gentle temple]

So it's not like the drop rate is awful.

[shell merlin]

@blissful drift what you going for atm

[subtle pasture]

I spent a lot of time in Old Bozja I guess

had 25 sorrowfuls

[blissful drift]

what is the drop rate on mob ?

[uncut tide]

Do 4 or 5 tanks give a higher chance of memory drops?

Ranks*

[shell merlin]

@blissful drift what are you going for, memories or bitter memories

[odd yoke]

See pins freeze

[maiden lodge]

Remi--about 6 in 40 minutes, but the trick is

You don't do it alone

[blissful drift]

only fates and critical engagement

[maiden lodge]

You have everyone aoe grinding different packs in the -same group-

Everyone gets drops

[shell merlin]

for your relic weapon?

[odd yoke]

Fates and CES arent the way for relic

[shell merlin]

I wanna know what you need cause you can do fates outside bozja

[maiden lodge]

Seriously, spread out, aoe grind, go crazy

[odd yoke]

Normal movs

Are the way

Fates and CE are only for mettle

[blissful drift]

in bozja yes .

[maiden lodge]

Well and lockboxes

[odd yoke]

Yeah

And duel chance

[maiden lodge]

But yeah, this is NOT Eureka

[shell merlin]

im so confused because nobody is on the same page here on what is being collected

[gentle temple]

Ohm you can get them out of lockboxes? nice.

[maiden lodge]

Get off the train

[odd yoke]

No

[shell merlin]

yall are talking about different things

[maiden lodge]

Vinyl knows what I'm talking about

[shell merlin]

@blissful drift you need red blue and yellow memories or green memories

[gentle temple]

I've been on the train most of the time and still have a lot

[blissful drift]

need yellow and blue

[gentle temple]

Just from the random mobs that get pulled into the fates by idiots XD

[shell merlin]

k because they put it in fine print

@blissful drift you can collect those in heavensward fates

100% drop on gold clearing fates

[odd yoke]

Bojza is faster to get the items for relics. Get a party and spread out and AOE mobs down hard. You can spread out in each area to farm all pieces all at once...You'll rain in memories, clusters and fragments

[viscid monolith]

You get yellow from area 1 and blue from area 2

[shell merlin]

@odd yoke its not faster

[maiden lodge]

It IS

Nate, it IS

[shell merlin]

for bitter mems yes

[maiden lodge]

We've TESTED it.

[shell merlin]

others no

[maiden lodge]

Get friends, go ham

[shell merlin]

for bitter mem

[odd yoke]

Get a party and aoe shit

[maiden lodge]

Seriously

[odd yoke]

All over the map

[maiden lodge]

Try what we're telling you

3 friends in 3 spots is super fast

[shell merlin]

idk what slow fate parties you guys run, but I literally got 20 memories in 30 mins

running fates

large fates

[maiden lodge]

Yeah and how many bitters?

[shell merlin]

I didnt say bitters

[maiden lodge]

Right

[shell merlin]

if your way is for bitters thne cool

not ewhat im talking to remi about

[maiden lodge]

Now imagine you're getting all three at once AND bitters

[viscid monolith]

I'm pretty sure you don't even need to be near the mob to get the loot. As long as you're in the party you should get something.

[odd yoke]

Yes

[wispy vector]

you don't get bitters before you get the quest

right

[shell merlin]

yah

[gentle temple]

Correct.

[maiden lodge]

Right but imagine you're getting all three at once

Instead of three fate trains

[wispy vector]

once you've unlocked them bozja is better

[gentle temple]

I've gotten drops in there when I'm going back to turn-in and my party's on the far side of the map.

[shell merlin]

you dont need to keep repeating yourself on it go post on reddit or something

[maiden lodge]

Then when you're on the second step, now you're getting all three at once for your next relic AND bitters

I haven't tried big game hunting on IVs to check drop rates for this though

But aoeing Is is huge

[shell merlin]

@blissful drift pins have this
Tortured = Coerthas western highlands and sea of clouds.

Sorrowful = Dravanian forelands and churning mists.

Harrowing = Dravanian hinterlands and azys lla.

Fate drops are 100% for gold.
for the start of memories

[wispy vector]

anyone know how many more steps there are past the bitter memories?

[maiden lodge]

None